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Aug. 4, 2023 - Rudy Giuliani
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America's Mayor Live (E204): Devon Archer's Interview Transcript RELEASED
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You don't belong in this case unless we are an authoritarian form of justice.
Judge, you're a contributor to the Democratic Party.
You're in love with Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and probably Joe Biden.
You hate Donald Trump.
You have put 9 of the 11 January 6 people before you, some of whom committed questionable crimes.
You've put them in for more time than the vicious, out of control, crazy, Trump deranged prosecutor wanted.
You're the only judge who has done that.
You've got a real problem, Judge.
You've got a hatred that's out of control.
You do that.
It must have happened, but I can't remember a judge ever giving somebody more time than the prosecutor asked for, that I asked for.
And these guys are not exactly pansies.
They're arresting these people in the middle of the night.
And one guy they arrested was inside the Capitol for three minutes.
They went to his home.
They knocked down the doors.
They scared the living daylights out of his kids and his neighbors.
They took him away in shackles.
And who knows, they put all kinds of things on his door.
You will not come to this door!
You must tell us in the neighborhood, we don't have a thousand yet.
We have to get a thousand more.
They arrested a thousand people.
A lot of them now they're arresting weren't even inside because there was no room inside.
There were so many FBI agents.
It was hard.
It was hard to fit in between.
I know there are a lot of FBI agents, because it really won't tell you how many there were.
And they won't turn over their notes.
They won't put up their records.
They won't turn over 95% of the tapes, many of which are going to show something ridiculous like that shaman character who ran all around and the cops were running after him laughing.
They could have stopped him at any minute.
They not only didn't stop him from going into the well of the... I keep forgetting if it was the house or the... It was the house.
They didn't even stop him from going into the well of the house.
They actually helped him find the door that was open.
The first one wasn't open.
And they took him over and showed him where the door that was open was.
And very nicely.
I mean, I can't complain about them.
A lot better than the ones that...
Wiped out Ashley Babbitt.
They opened the door for him to let him in.
I don't know.
You think the guy might have thought he was permitted to do it?
If a cop opens the door to let you in?
You think maybe they suckered this guy like really big time?
I don't even think the cops were suckering him.
I think the prosecutors did it in the way they interpreted it.
But then he goes up on the podium with his stupid... I don't even know what that... I don't even... I don't know what a shaman is.
I don't know what that pole he was holding was, the significance of it.
I think it's all a bunch of bull.
If we put every jackass in this country in jail, half the country would be in jail, right?
What damage did he do?
Like, that was an insurrection?
Okay, if this is gonna be the worst insurrection we get, I think we can handle it.
And they still say it.
This judge, Judge Tanya, that's her over there.
She looks a little annoyed in that picture.
Judge Tanya Chudkin thinks that this was like 9-11, that this was like Pearl Harbor.
And what it was, was, I don't know, can you even call it a riot?
I don't know.
But you certainly can say it was inflated and exaggerated maliciously and deliberately by the Democrats, by the FBI and by the Capitol police.
And nobody, nobody, not a single person gives a damn for the death of Ashley Babbitt or Ms.
Boylan.
Nobody.
Nobody.
Not a single person.
Mayor, to anyone who even compares January 6th to 9-11, none of these people who are comparing it were at 9-11.
Guess who was at 9-11?
You.
You were at 9-11.
So how dare they even compare January 6th to that day?
It's a disgrace.
It's a disgrace.
But you know, they've brainwashed the country on this January 6th.
That's the unfortunate part, Mayor.
This has gotten to tens of millions of Americans.
We've fought a lot of it back.
I think we pushed a lot of it back by showing how many FBI agents are in there.
But you know what we've never done?
We've never really done an analysis of how many Antifa people are there.
I knew from the moment it was happening, when the tape was brought to me, and the person who brought it to me said, you see those people knocking down the door?
Uh, yeah, yeah.
I can see them.
One of them's Antifa.
I'm not sure about the other.
I said, how do you know?
And the person said to me, well, I've infiltrated them for four years.
100% correct.
I covered Antifa for... I also can tell you, Mayor.
100%.
I know for... Bob, I know... I'm sorry.
I have a different view.
I have a different view of that, which under Jack Smith's theory would mean I go to jail.
Just think of his theory.
His theory is that... He actually gives his case away and the case should be dismissed.
Don't even write an opinion.
Just put him in jail.
I mean, the...
He says Trump has a perfect right to question the election.
His lawyers have a perfect right to question the election.
But then they can't.
Now it's hard to figure out what they can't do.
They can't lie.
Well, when you define a lie as if you don't agree with my version of things, you're lying.
Then you've just eliminated the possibility of litigation.
Because you have a plaintiff and a defendant, and the truth to the plaintiff is a lie to the defendant.
And on the defendant's side, the truth is the defendant's version, and the lie is the plaintiff's version.
And what they wanted him to do is accept their version.
So they say things like, your attorney general told you that there was no None!
Zero!
Interference in the election.
Okay.
How does that square up with the report I spent a lot of last night reading from Atlanta and from Georgia?
Where Senator William Ligon filed a report saying, in conclusion, the election was fixed by enough votes to change the outcome, and then goes on to list, I don't know, 110 witnesses?
I mean, you can read it!
So now I'm a lawyer!
I got Barr telling me that.
I got Lincoln telling me that.
I got a client.
I have no choice as a client.
I got to go with my client.
I got to give him the benefit of the doubt.
I've got to, I have to view it in the light most favorable to him.
I don't think he has much choice, but to believe in it.
I mean, he has, it's not as if somebody made it up.
It's right there.
You can go read it.
I read it to you last night.
I'll read it to you again.
I'll read it to you the cows come home.
And not only that, I'll read it to you for four of the States.
He had every right to believe that the election was stolen.
A lot more of a right than you think, because they've demagogued this terribly.
No, they haven't demagogued it.
They've corruptly tried to change the definition.
They did the same thing with this that they did with Russian collusion, with the call to Zelensky in which they suppressed the hard drive so you would find out that Trump was right and they were wrong.
They did it when they accused Trump and me of being Russian agents.
It turns out to be a complete effing lie.
And you still believe them?
Are you kidding me?
Do they think we're stupid?
Why wouldn't the people who did all that steal the election?
It's not as if Democrats haven't stolen elections before.
The reason that Democrats have an advantage in stealing an election is They are much more powerful than the old, decrepit political machines that make up American cities.
Nobody knows that better than I do because I prosecuted them and I defeated them.
So you're not going to, I mean, you can tell me all the garbage you want to tell me.
Jack Smith, you're a damn liar.
You're a sick man.
You're doing great damage to this country.
Bring a case like you brought, and I've read it three times now, in trying to indict anybody, anybody, Donald Trump or the homeless guy on the street for exercising his first amendment right to complain about an election that is so un-American.
I think Abraham Lincoln would throw you out.
Abraham Lincoln had a great definition of what makes a great American, who believes in our rights more.
You don't believe in our rights.
Trump has no right to free speech.
He doesn't have a right to counsel.
You think I don't know why you put in all the key lawyers in the co-conspirator section?
That's to cut off the credibility of his lawyers.
Right?
And you made those scurrilous remarks about us?
Like our position and our view is less than yours?
I don't know.
I read it.
I did pretty well in law school, my friend.
And God Almighty, there's no comparison between you and me as a prosecutor.
You're a disgrace.
I mean, you got reversed by the Supreme Court.
You got other cases thrown out.
You couldn't convict Senator Edwards because you framed him.
You couldn't convict McDonald because you framed him, and the Supreme Court ate nothing, including the liberal judges, threw you out.
Gosh almighty, I don't have a record like that.
Yeah, I have probably the most significant prosecutions, successful, affirmed by the courts, of any prosecutor in the 20th century.
I think I have a little more authority on this than you do, jerk.
But you're not a jerk.
There's something wrong with you.
This kind of evil prosecution, there's something wrong with you.
Maybe this Trump derangement syndrome, there is something to the fact that it's a mental illness, but I'm telling you.
So I'm going to go, I'm going to go into one.
I'm going to go into one thing that maybe can illustrate this a little bit better.
We'll see.
But this is one that I feel very strongly about because I did, I did, I was questioned by them.
And people say to me, are you conspirator number one?
And I say, uh, it sounds like I am, but almost everything attributed to me is a lie.
Just a damn flat out lie.
So if they think that they're relying on me for that testimony, good luck, pal.
I ain't lying for you.
Oh, and by the way, let's get it over with right now.
You want to indict me?
Screw you.
I don't recognize your authority because you're not American prosecutors.
You're following Soviet and Nazi rules.
I know the rules better than you do.
I didn't lose cases.
You did, jackass.
You want to prosecute me?
Prosecute me.
I can't stop you.
I mean, you're not guided by fair principles.
Otherwise, you wouldn't have brought this case.
Otherwise, you wouldn't have done the sneaky, dishonest things that you did.
That, like, the guy you're working for, Biden, indicates you're a man of no character.
So I'm going to pick one little thing that I think people might be able to understand.
In the indictment, Ted, do we know exactly where?
I lost a page in the indictment where he just puts in in order to make it look like I had something to do with the riot.
I want you to think about this for a minute.
It's a little bigger than this.
Many reporters pointed this out.
Many didn't.
A few of the small group of honest reporters we have left pointed this out.
But of course, none of the stations did.
He's bringing a case in which he is not charging that Trump incited the riot.
He's charging that he engaged in fraudulent behavior.
To try to change the results of the election.
The, uh, the electors, some of the statements, but he stays away from a charge of affecting, of trying to, uh, something, any, anything that would get him close to insurrection.
Now he desperately wanted to do that because if he could get the victim of that, he could borrow him from public office.
That's where they started.
So these guys failed.
But they're still going to try, even though they didn't charge it, they're going to try to taint the case with somehow suggesting that Trump and his people, including yours truly, somehow created January 6th.
Well, they called me as a witness that we're going to have a lot of fun because they had a lot more to do with January 6th than I did.
I had nothing to do with it.
Nothing.
And I'm pretty secure in saying that because nobody would believe me if I just said it, right?
Because I'm some kind of... I spent my whole life prosecuting people, having a flawless record, changing New York City, and now, you know, for some large portion of the country, you can just say I'm a big liar and ruin my reputation, take my law practice away, because I support Trump.
However, you got screwed on this one big time.
And by the way, Jack, you're not all that smart because you shouldn't have put this in the case.
I'm going to move to have it removed from the case because it is straight out dishonesty.
You just go ahead and say that on January 6th, I made a lot of remarks that were incendiary, including trial by combat.
Now, Jack, I don't know if you're a straight out liar or a lazy bum, one or the other, but I don't know if you know that this has been resolved already with a lot more consideration than you gave it.
I was charged with that by an equally dishonest person, Benny Thompson and Swalwell.
Actually, Swalwell was the major defendant.
This may have been recommended by the Chinese spy that he was screwing.
But I don't know.
Could have been her case or his case.
But that's OK.
He's a Democrat.
He can screw Chinese spies.
And Joe Biden can take material and steal it from the White House and put it in Chinatown.
And nobody cares.
Nobody cares that he put material in Chinatown.
What the hell would he put material in Chinatown for?
Why would he put a box right next to his son who passed it every single day and his son admitted that he's a partner of the spy chief of China?
How do you get away with these things if you don't own these people?
If we're not a corrupt government?
Well, the judge And I'm going to try and see, there were red underlined portions there, Ted.
Can people see that?
If you focus on that, can they see that?
And then we'll go and take a little break.
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And you can be dealing with the best people who look at the world like you do and you can further this.
Let's empower our own people instead of these media people.
This is one of the things we got to do.
We got to change the media around and education as well as politics.
Then we can take our country back and Abraham Lincoln and my hero, Ronald Reagan will be proud of us.
We'll be back right.
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We'll do that.
One night, we'll do that for him.
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See?
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Just get it in the hole.
You pick one.
Usually HDM2 is a good one to use because you might be using HDM1, but it doesn't matter.
And then, you know, you play with it a little, you can readjust it if you're in the wrong one.
Okay.
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You know what?
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Here's the thing, though.
We're in this weird window.
This is a post-cable box world, right?
But we'll be at the point where we won't even have these attachments.
It's going to all be smart TVs.
We're in a weird place in between where these additions to your TV.
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Here's room for an additional speaker or a headphone.
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I'll tell you what they're for, actually.
You can also broadcast with this.
And we'll go into that over time.
Yeah, over time we'll do that.
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And now I wanted to go over, I wanted to go over this atrocity by Smith.
by Smith.
It is a bit personal because it involves me.
And there are many more of these, and they're worse as they involve the president, I must say.
But I think you might be able to grasp this one.
You'll get how crooked he is.
So in the middle of the indictment, he just puts down, with reference to January 6th, that I said trial by combat.
Now you put that all by itself, that sounds like I'm advocating for violence, right?
Right.
Wouldn't an honest man clarify that if that weren't the case?
Wouldn't an honest man clarify that if in the four or five sentences before I got up to trial by combat, I explained that what I wanted to do and was recommending was that we test a basic machine, that has been, uh, that has been checked out for not being able to access by the internet or not change the vote that we tested against some of the machines that we utilized in the election.
And I said, in the middle of that, I said, we could have a trial by combat.
And then if your machine wins, I'll have to apologize to you.
And if my machine wins, you go to jail.
Obviously I was not talking about violence.
Nobody thought I was.
Nobody got excited and upset.
Nobody even ran away.
The whole situation on Capitol Hill didn't take place for a few hours later.
And I didn't even know they were going to Capitol Hill.
So I was sued.
I was sued by the, um, Biggest group of liars in Washington, the house committee that framed Trump three times and is trying to do it again.
And, uh, I went before a judge that was appointed by a president Obama, and that was sort of similar to the judge that has the Trump case as a very, very harsh sentencer of people on January 6th with a very, uh, um, Let's say not a nuanced view of January 6th.
Basically, he bought hook, line, and sinker, the propaganda view, like the way the Russians used to do through Pravda.
He didn't examine things like, what really happened to Ashley Babbitt?
Shouldn't we really know how many FBI agents were in there?
Shouldn't we identify all the Antifa people?
Is it possible that they exaggerated this thing?
And a couple of little things that would suggest that.
They originally reported that four people were killed by the rioters that day.
It turned out that nobody was killed by the rioters that day.
And the only people that were killed were pro-Trump people.
That's just a fact.
They deny it because they have to, but it's just a fact.
So, they put this thing in there, and then... Can they see that, Ted?
Or do I have to read it to them?
They can see it, okay.
So, you see my name at the top, Giuliani.
There are a group of defendants in this case, including the president, Donald Trump Jr., who was also dismissed.
Some were dismissed, some weren't.
But here's with regard to me, which I guess Jack is so busy, he kind of missed this.
So therefore, he lied about me.
Giuliani.
The court reaches a different conclusion as to Giuliani.
Obama judge, by the way.
There's little doubt that plaintiffs have adequately pleaded that Giuliani was involved in a conspiracy To engage in a months-long misinformation campaign to convince Trump supporters that the election had been illegally stolen.
Now, I dispute that.
I think it wasn't disinformation.
I think that was as much disinformation as when these geniuses said that I was a Russian agent.
Or when they said I was giving out disinformation when I said that natural immunity is better than what they have now virtually agreed on by everyone.
These people are not the arbiter.
We don't have a ministry of truth in this country where somebody with political motives can tell you what you're allowed to say and you better say that.
But in any event, The judge disregards that and says that even if I had done that, it doesn't violate the law.
Now, why does he say that?
Because we have free speech in this country.
We resolve these things, if I'm saying something wrong, we resolve this by you challenging me and saying something right, not putting me in jail.
which is what they want to do.
What plaintiffs most plausibly establish is that Giuliani conspired to prevent Congress
from discharging its duties on January 6th. By what plaintiffs must plausibly establish
is that Giuliani Conspired to prevent Congress from discharging its duties on January 6th by force, intimidation, or threat.
There, they fall short.
Apparently, he didn't read this because he charged me Without modifying it, without explaining it, without taking it out of context, without saying that I've been cleared by a United States district judge that is very anti-Trump, very anti-January 6th defendant, and it's pretty much in their pocket.
Except not for this.
In addition to his pre-January 6th actions, which alone do not establish Giuliani as a 1985 won conspirator, which means a conspirator that wanted to create violence, right?
Plaintiffs pointed to Giuliani's acts, his rally speech, Which I said, so let's have trial by combat.
We can skip that other part.
We can say we're going to fight to the very end to make sure that doesn't happen.
And a phone call that he made to members of Congress urging them to delay the certification.
How about this?
These allegations individually and taken together do not nudge Plaintiff's 1985 one claim against Giuliani across the line from conceivable to plausible.
He found that claiming that I had anything to do with what happened on January 6th wasn't plausible.
Did you read that, liar?
Did you get some paralegal on your staff to read it?
Will you now amend your defamation of me, you creep?
Will you amend it?
Are you man enough to say that you basically lied about me by leaving that trial by combat out there and not explaining that a judge threw it out of court?
At such an early stage in the proceeding that it was outrageously false.
And the only person in America who would repeat it is a guy with your record as a dishonorable prosecutor.
You know how many things like this are in this indictment?
This is a smoking gun that proves he's dishonorable.
If you're honorable, correct it, Jack!
We can go on.
As to Israeli remarks, Giuliani uttered no words that resembled a call to action.
Trial by combat was not accompanied by a direction to do anything.
So I don't know, I could read the rest of it.
He didn't.
Or if he did, he didn't give a damn and just directly lied.
I have so many more like this relating to me, relating to the co-conspirators, and most importantly, relating to Donald Trump.
Well, Mayor, are you ready for some folks?
This could be one of the most offensive indictments to our values and our way of life ever.
Entertained by a federal court.
And I got to tell you, Abraham Lincoln's turning over in his grave and telling you this guy really should go to another country because he doesn't understand our legal system and doesn't agree with fairness, honesty, and decency.
Well, that's right, Mayor.
Are you ready for a phone call, Mayor?
I am ready.
Now, of course, we've got a few days of phone calls.
So give us a call.
We want to hear from you.
And Mayor's going to hold up.
Alright, I'm gonna put that number up on the screen.
It's 1-646-573-5177.
Mayor, you are on the phone with Rob in New Jersey.
Rob, you are on with the Mayor.
Hello, Mayor.
Hey, Rob, how are you?
I haven't heard from you in a while.
Yeah, yeah, God, I've been busy as hell, but I've been watching.
Good, I'm glad you're busy.
You know, these recent attacks on you are, might very well be, I'm hearing myself twice that's why I'm pacing in between sentences.
Well you're doing better than Biden.
So I think they're just, I think they're pissed off at you because you made, you forced Joe Biden to have to acknowledge his granddaughter.
Yeah, I was the first one, wasn't I?
I'm glad you remember that.
I was the first one to say he's an evil man.
Yeah, uh, Mayor, we lost him, unfortunately.
Tell him to come over tomorrow.
Yeah, you're invited.
Tomorrow's Friday, we'll have a party.
And we'll have Rob and some friends.
Give us a message.
You know, text the number if you have interest in...
I mean, you got to understand, Rob is very valuable.
Rob does a tremendous amount of research.
So, you know, everybody, we get great callers, Ted, both here and on WABC.
I mean, from the first moment I went on WABC, I was so impressed with the callers.
That's why I wanted to add callers to this show.
And now we've added a live Skype.
We're going to be doing Skype pretty soon.
We're going to be doing pretty soon.
We're getting very, very technical.
And those of you that have been with us from the start know where we, you know, kind of how we started this and where we've come.
Our real job is getting you the stuff that you don't get.
I got to go back and look at that thing that hasn't been on television yet.
I thought they said it was the FD 1023 in which it's alleged that Biden's got a $10 million bribe.
I don't know how you can justify to your conscience, whether you believe it or you don't, not reporting that when it's an official report of the FBI with an informant that they have vetted as telling the truth.
That's the basis.
You could use that to get a search warrant.
It's the antithesis of what they did to Trump's people when they went with the Pfizer guy, who was an unreliable guy that they had actually thrown out of the FBI.
I mean, they go with that, and this guy they bury.
That's right, Mayor.
We have another phone call from you.
Uh, his name is Michael, and he's from Yonkers, and he has a very interesting question for you.
Oh, thank you, Michael!
Oh, hi, Mr. Mayor.
I met you when, uh, I lived in the Bronx on 236th Street in Woodlawn.
And, uh, shook your hand and voted for you that time.
Now I live in Yonkers.
But, uh, I don't understand.
With all the abuses on the record, investigations, and why didn't President Trump, like, go to, uh, SCOTUS?
Isn't there a legal procedure to have SCOTUS intervene?
Isn't that interesting?
South because Jack Smith is really a partisan, you know, pointed under the law, just corrupt
Yeah.
everything, so much corruption, evidence, everything.
Isn't there some way he could take it to SCOTUS for election interference, just on that?
Isn't that interesting?
You know, they have done a very good job of taking control of the major prosecutorial
agencies.
I've been warning about this for two years.
They've turned them into something that is completely anti-American.
They've turned them into creatures of the state.
So that's why you get something like, oh, they're spending all this time on this ridiculous charge against Trump that he complained about the election.
Which everybody in the world knows he has a First Amendment right to do.
And meanwhile, Joe Biden is sitting on the beach with the evidence of the money that he got from countries all over the world is mounting up.
The press ignores it.
The right-wing press puts it out.
The congressmen courageously try to push it forward.
But we're at the point that's very, very dangerous.
So, ladies and gentlemen, we have a very dangerous man in the White House.
It affects me, it affects you, it affects our children.
This is a man who has two major problems that are being covered up by the Democrats and by the press and by the 80% dishonest media that we have.
First of all, the man is now well beyond a proven crook.
I've never seen more evidence to this.
Never seen more evidence to this.
I mean, tape recorded.
Video recorded.
Straight out documents from banks.
Ten witnesses.
FBI reliable sources.
And we let him stay there.
And now it isn't just that he's a crook.
Maybe he's not taking money now, I don't know.
So you say, well, what's the problem?
He was a crook in the past.
But two of the countries, at least, that he took a lot of money from, require a president who can be independent.
This isn't just the disgusting aspect of criminality of bribery, which is disgusting.
I mean, this guy is a trail of trash, piece of shit.
that came out of Delaware, and they were taking pennies with his brother, and they've built up to be really important.
And the only thing strange about this is how a guy can make 40 or 50 million on an IQ that arguably breaks, you know, three digits.
This is the guy left back in the third grade.
This is the guy who cheated in law school and plagiarized, cheated as a senator and plagiarized.
Maybe at that point, we should have said, What Sam Donaldson said.
We should throw him out of politics.
That's right, Mayor.
We're gonna have one more phone call tonight.
We have... You're restricting me?
No, no, no.
We're just getting a lot of volume.
We have Russ from Roxbury, New Jersey.
Russ, you are on the air with Mayor Giuliani.
Oh!
Thank you.
Hello?
Go ahead, Russ.
Is Rudy on?
Yeah, I'm right here.
I'm right here, Russ.
This is me.
Oh, hi, Rudy.
How are you doing?
I'm doing okay.
How are you doing, Russ?
Let me turn off the sound, by the way.
Yeah, go ahead.
Take your time.
The question I have for you is, with these new charges against Trump, You're 100% right.
In fact, it makes it easier than that.
of the evidence that they've been hiding and the inconsistencies that show that the election
was clearly questionable and probably not verifiable.
You're 100% right.
In fact, it makes it easier than that.
You know, if you were bringing the case, you would have to show and it would be a civil
case, not criminal.
You'd have to show by a preponderance of the evidence that the election was stolen.
Now, dishonest, crazy Jack Smith has to show, beyond a reasonable doubt, not only that it wasn't stolen, but that Trump didn't believe that it was stolen.
So even if it wasn't stolen, and it was, believe me, but even if it wasn't, and you can't prove that, if Trump has a whole bunch of documents that he's relying on that suggested it was stolen, as an American citizen, he has every right to have a different opinion than the government.
You realize how dangerous this is?
They are prosecuting him because he has a different opinion than the ruling regime.
Where do you say something like that?
When did you ever say in America that somebody would be prosecuted because they have a different opinion than the ruling regime?
And the opinion happens to be very damaging to the ruling regime, but nonetheless, it's an opinion.
Protected by the First Amendment, except in the new, authoritarian, fascist-style government they're creating for us.
And when Trump says, I'm fighting for you, don't know that everybody gets it.
But he is.
They've already come after all the Trump people.
I know, me.
They're going to come after all the rest of the Trump people.
They want you to be subjected to some kind of a second-class status in this country, so God forbid you never elect a person like Trump, who may try to protect you.
Because they're much smarter than you are.
I mean, didn't you get it when Hillary called you deplorables?
Didn't you get the arrogance of that?
Didn't you get the authoritarianism that comes out of that?
If you're deporables, we can tell you what to do.
We're a lot smarter than you are.
Now, yeah, they're really smart, the Clintons.
I don't know who's going to go down as the most corrupt president.
Clinton?
Obama?
I know you're surprised by that.
I'm not.
And Biden.
Right now, based on the evidence coming out, Biden would be ahead.
Clinton would be like a bit of a small timer because the money was a lot less.
But you got to watch Obama not coming out first here because he knew everything.
He knew everything that Biden was doing.
That's right, Mayor.
I can't imagine.
Let him do it.
I can't imagine Biden.
So what the hell was he doing for himself?
He sure likes the good life.
Sure got quite the place up there.
Is that Martha's Vineyard?
He acts like he was trained in a lot of communism by a very, very dedicated communist.
So I think he's got the entitlement view of a communist, which is if you're a big member of the party, you get to live like a multimillionaire prince and everybody else can starve.
He doesn't do much for the people of Chicago except watch them get killed every weekend.
Doesn't matter if they're black people in Chicago.
Yeah, how much time does he spend on the subway?
What kind of a dedication to black people is he?
I mean, they're getting killed like crazy all over America because of the crazy DAs that Soros put in.
He doesn't do anything about it.
That guy, I mean, Biden, I think people are getting to see.
But I think the prince still, there's a long way to go to get people to be honest about the prince as to what a disaster he was.
I think he was a turning point, not Clinton.
I think Clinton was a flawed man like everybody in the White House, but essentially a man who loved America.
No way that Obama loved America.
He wouldn't have sat in Wright's Church for 20 years.
If you loved America, you wouldn't have had your wife say, first time she was proud of our country is when he got, when he got elected.
What?
So he could give a couple hundred million to Iran so they could kill people.
That was it.
That was the biggest thing he did.
That along with the, um, the rise in racial tension.
We'll look back at this time period.
And I truly, people will not look at Obama.
In good light when it comes to what he did for race relations.
He had such an opportunity.
He did it on purpose.
He did it on purpose to break up our country so we'll be part of the one world that Soros and Klaus Schwab and Obama will for us.
I think Obama wants to be like the king of the one world.
Or maybe she wants to be the king.
I don't know.
His wife, Michelle, she's taken on a lot more authority lately.
Maybe she wants to run for president.
That's what some, that's, that's the rumor.
And maybe here with just a few, we're well into soccer time, but we're going to stay on a little longer with our, with our new.
commercials and just with all the news out there, maybe some questions may or some rapid fire
involving the news. You may have seen Governor DeSantis and Governor Gavin Newsom have
tentatively agreed to debate one another in November.
Interesting strategy by DeSantis.
No, no, before the election, but I will say it does give Governor DeSantis a reason to stay in the race for three or
four more months to be to be honest.
That's what I saw.
It's only like a few days in November.
Well, for DeSantis and the mayor, and I talked about this.
That would be completely distracting.
If they're going to debate, they should debate now.
That would be terribly distracting.
Oh, November of this year?
Yeah.
Oh, OK.
That's a year before the election.
Yeah, a year before the election.
If they want to debate, let them debate!
Yeah, but as Mike correctly pointed out, Newsom is, as of now, not running for president.
Why is DeSantis challenging a non-presidential contender?
Someone made a good point.
Have we ever seen this?
Where a presidential contender debated a non- Was Douglas running for president?
Lincoln and Douglas were running against each other for the Senate in 1858.
They were running against each other?
And it was a preparatory run to the Lincoln-Douglas debate.
It was very famous.
To the White House.
And Lincoln lost that, but then he defeated him in the main event.
The point I'm trying to make is, Mayor, is Gavin Newsom is still the governor of California and still never said he's running for anything.
He's not going to be anyone's vice president.
He just wants to debate DeSantis.
I don't know, to try to make him look stupid.
I don't know what the point is of this.
Let's put it this way.
He's trying to establish himself as the guy who will be the candidate should Biden wake up tomorrow morning and say, uh.
He does that every morning.
Uh.
But then they can't hide it.
That's true.
Like he hasn't spoken on that beach for a while.
It's possible he can't talk anymore.
He's already moot.
Now there are people who told me they saw him unsuccessfully trying to make a sandcastle and nobody would allow their little girls to come over.
A couple little girls wanted to come over, and the mothers became panicked.
And these were even Democrat mothers, because Democrat mothers don't want their kids' hair sniffed.
Because, look, until he explains what that hair sniffing is, he shouldn't do it.
I never saw it before, and tell me it isn't weird.
I mean, it's 100% weird, Mayor.
Some men have weird fetishes.
Foot fetishes, hair fetishes.
Feet, hair.
I don't know.
People have race fetishes.
I know.
We're not going to say.
We're not going to say.
You know who has one, though?
Hunter.
Hunter's got a whole tape in which he does an instruction on food.
He was going to guess somebody.
No, I thought you were talking about... No, no, no, don't mention any names.
Governor or something.
I'm just saying maybe he has some, maybe like he sniffs... After the show I'm going to tell you a revelation I got recently.
I want to see what you think if it's true or not.
Maybe he sniffs Jill's hair every night before he goes to bed.
I don't think he and Jill do much sniffing anymore.
She looks like she's had it with him.
She never pays attention to him.
I mean, she lets the guy trip.
She doesn't even... I mean, I'm telling you, even some of the wives that I had, we had some kind of real... I don't think they'd let me slip without helping me.
That's right, Mayor.
Of course, we'll dig into this for tomorrow night.
Devin Archer's interview transcript, of course, has been released.
So we'll go through that.
You made some comments about it earlier today.
Devin Archer's transcript is devastating.
You only need one thing in it.
It's where he says, contradicting the new biggest liar in the Democratic Party from New York, Rich Boy Goldman, entitled One of the limousine liberal phonies that even black people say do more damage to us.
Some very, very radical civil rights leaders have said the most damage done to us are by phony white liberals.
Well, we got one.
And man, did he lie his backside off the other day.
Whoa!
And I gotta tell you, he's not good at it.
Now Schiff is good at it.
He keeps a smile on his face.
It is a dumb looking smile, but it's a smile.
Swalwell is not good at it.
Swalwell looks sneaky and like a liar every time he talks, even when he's telling the truth.
Um, what was the name of his, uh, communist spy girlfriend?
Wu Wu or Pu Pu?
Fang Fang.
Oh, Fang Fang.
Was that really her name?
Oh, Fang Fang, yes.
Did he call her?
Did he say, hi Fang Fang?
I think so.
Let me, let me get that.
Did she come to Congress with him?
I think they made up the name.
Or Bang Bang?
Oh, I guess that was his nickname for her nickname.
No, her name was Chris.
Christine Fang.
Yeah, well, it wasn't.
He didn't like introduce her to Nancy Pelosi as a man of speaker.
This is my girlfriend, Fang Fang.
No, I guess not.
Her first name is Christine.
It's Christine Fang, but they just call.
So if that happened.
Oh, but if that if that happened, you know what would have happened?
She went by Fang Fang in some circles.
OK, so if that happened, Christine was probably her English name.
So, so Nancy would have said, give me a number.
My husband will give you a call.
We can do a little inside information because it's legal for me, not legal for you.
Let me see if we can, uh, we can leverage this situation.
They're all crooks.
That's right, mayor.
And as we, as we close out, let all they care about is money and they don't care about this country.
That's right.
So what can folks expect for tomorrow night?
We hit some very big ratings again this evening, as we have all week.
I'm not saying we give anyone any homework tonight, but set the stage for tomorrow evening and maybe what our viewers can expect on Well, I've been I've been I've been delayed on my project of opening up my files.
So you can hear the tape recordings.
You heard a little bit of Shogun last night.
But I got about 50 of those that proved this guy should have been in jail for three years ago.
I'm talking about the President of the United States.
It is, to me, an outrage that every night he's presiding over this country, and he's number one, the biggest crook that's ever done that, without any doubt.
There's no doubt about it.
This evidence is not questionable.
There's so much of it.
And number two, you've got to be a kiss-ass to not realize that this guy is somewhere along some major level of dimension.
How can we have a president that has dementia?
We're being laughed at, but most importantly, our enemies are saying, we got an advantage now, and we're going to press it.
We need to be protected like every country.
We are now like, if you want to get the US, they got a president who's morally compromised and mentally inadequate.
Wow.
Imagine all this stuff going on in the country and they watch this moron sitting at the beach.
He's acting as if there's nothing.
Look, if this country was moving along, great.
If people weren't paying a lot more money for everything they have to buy.
If we had some kind of resolution to what's going on in Ukraine, rather than giving them this kind of money for the next 10 years.
If we could figure out how to match or exceed the Chinese Navy, that's now exceeded us, and the army is on the way to doing it.
If we could figure out how to bring taxes down, so people could live here.
Okay.
But we don't do any of that.
And we have our leader sitting on the beach looking like this is an outing from the Happy Valley Nursing Home.
And his wife pays no attention to him.
They got some hired hand who looks like she's given up on him.
Now she's got to be one hell of a liar.
She knows how demented he is.
The guy thinks he gave a medal to his uncle in the White House and his uncle was dead for seven years before he went into the White House.
I don't know, when Papa starts saying that, everybody starts thinking, we better get Papa to retire and get him the right help and let's see if we can ward this off, less pressure.
He's making decisions.
Involving the life and death of you, me, our children, our grandchildren?
What kind of irresponsible people are we?
How cowardly are we that we don't stand up to this?
How cowardly are our politicians?
And ultimately, I asked the Abraham Lincoln question, where's the love of America?
Where's their desire to free this country of the tremendous damage that having a man like this in the White House does?
It's incalculable.
It could be years to overcome this.
We're doing what they always hoped we would do.
We're becoming corrupt.
We're a totally corrupt government.
This last indictment proves it.
This last indictment is not a crime.
This is a list of First Amendment activity that he's being charged for because they are so damn afraid of him.
And you know why they're afraid of him?
Because he's going to throw them out and they're not going to be able to steal the amount of money they're stealing.
I'm going to tell you, I was taught this when I first became a prosecutor.
It's the reason I was the most successful prosecutor in the 20th century.
Follow the money.
Well, go to RudyGiulianiCS.com, catch up on our podcast.
Go to WABCRadio.com, particularly tomorrow at three o'clock when I will be on.
And then we'll be back here at eight o'clock tomorrow night.
We'll have a wrap up show.
I have no idea what exciting things we will do, but we will.
And then over the weekend, we get Dr. Maria back and we blow it out with uncovering the truth, which is not easy in America.
God bless you.
God bless America.
And like I said, on my radio show, I think it's appropriate tonight to say a prayer to God to give extra strength to Donald Trump and his family.
Because I know and I have no reason to believe he's gotten down everything I know about today and my son saw him today and he's doing fine, but I still think the man's a human being.
What they're doing to him has never been done in America.
These kinds of tactics, Nazi Germany, China, Russia.
I don't know.
Pray for him.
Ask God to give him strength.
I don't know if you realize how much we need him to fix this.
So say a prayer for Thanksgiving, that you're an American.
Say a prayer.
If you, if you feel like it, you say a prayer for Donald Trump.
He deserves it.
After what they're putting them through.
This is, this is the worst torture I've seen for a legitimate and enormously successful American political figure.
One could argue that his first four years were one of the best than the American president ever had.
And we're torturing him for it.
Well, Hopefully that's going to rectify itself.
And prayers help a lot.
I believe that.
The Democrats don't, because they don't believe in God.
So God bless America.
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