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Sept. 28, 2022 - Rudy Giuliani
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Conservative Party in Italy Wins in a Landslide | Guests: Sergio Santoro and Alessandro Battilocchio
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Hello, this is Rudy Giuliani and I'm back with an episode another episode of
Rudy's common sense stitch.
you Today's episode focuses on good news, I would say.
Do we often get a chance nowadays to focus on good news?
I don't think we do.
This is good news in many ways because it also historically has been the harbinger of more good news to follow.
And what I'm talking about is the really landslide victory on September 25, on Sunday, September 25, in the parliamentary elections in all of Italy.
It was a resounding victory.
For the center-right parties.
I am told their first clear, resounding victory ever in the history of the Republic.
And a sign of very, very good things to come, because their issues are quite universal to the countries in Europe, as well as in the United Kingdom.
And not terribly different than the ones we're facing right now in the upcoming Senate and House and gubernatorial elections.
The surprise?
Not so much the victory, but the margin of victory.
These are substantial margins for a party And a group of parties that have never had this kind of dominance and that have been vilified and propagandized and lied about in much the same way President Biden is now going about doing that to ultra-MAGA Republicans.
He's taking our love of our country, which is reflected in being involved in a movement to make America great again.
Or to excessively be involved in a movement to make America great again.
Italy and France and Germany and even to some extent the United Kingdom have had these reactions against people, it almost seems, loving their country too much.
The victory in Italy is a significant one and we want to cover it because of a couple of things.
First of all, it indicates the flow of politics in Europe for sure.
What happened in Italy is going on and whether it would result in the same kind of victory there or even a greater one, I don't know.
But it is going on in much of Western Europe and all of Eastern Europe.
It is going on in the United Kingdom.
And you can see when we start discussing this, it's going on in the United States of America, and is a very, very good harbinger for our congressional elections.
I remember back in 2016, something very similar happened in the summer of 2016, when the people of Britain voted to get the heck out of the The European Union, because they felt that their sovereignty was being ignored.
They were being overridden by other countries with very heavy left-wing agendas.
They were not given sufficient time to argue their points or make their points, or even within administrative proceedings.
And they felt that European countries were meant to be individual nations.
With a massive amount of history and religion and common sense and decency tied into that, and this whole idea of attack on nationalism, which is some kind of a distorted view that comes from way back, you know, with Nazism, is really... Not only is it sick, it plays right into the hands of the communists.
Because it is a goal of the Communist Party from the very beginning, whether we're talking about Marx and Engels or to eradicate nationality.
It explains the attacks on American heroes.
It explains the burning of statues of American heroes.
It explains the false history taught to our students about inventing slavery.
Or involving us in action that we had not even the most remote connection to.
So this movement in Italy, which began really way back with Berlusconi and Forza Italia to reaffirm the Italian culture and civilization and language and traditions.
And then it continued with the development of other parties.
Forza Italia was Berlusconi's party.
Another party emerged that is headed now by Giorgia Maloney.
And that party is Fratelli Italia.
Now that's a very significant name because at the very beginning of this podcast I played for you part of the Italian national anthem.
So we're talking about nationalism.
If we are talking about nationalism, the selection made by Georgia and her party is quite the significant choice, I will tell you that.
The song of Fratelli Italia, as the anthem, goes back to the Risorgimento, which is when Italy was put together.
And it was banned, and they tried to ban it, and people were imprisoned for it.
But the reality is it prevailed, and now it is the name of, it is now the name of the Party that was the leading of the right-leaning parties for Telly Italia.
All together, so you have the vote, and this is a significant number, in the upper house, which they call the Camera, which is the Senate, They have 300 members, 115 are now part of the right-wing coalition.
In the upper chamber, which would be the Senate, the Comitah is the way they describe it, the center-right coalition made up of Forza Italia, which is Berlusconi's party, the oldest but now not the majority party.
The party that I just mentioned to you, Fratelli Italia, which is headed by a woman, Giorgio Maloney, which was the chief vote-getter, and then a party called Lega, which is run by Martello Salvini, Who had really been the most prominent, after Berlusconi, right-wing figure in Italy.
But those parties, along with a party that is known as Noi Moderato, We're Moderates, it is really a, as you will see described by one of its members, it's really a sub-part of the much larger A party of the person who probably will be the Prime Minister, Giorgio Meloni.
So it is a subpart of Fratelli Italia.
We'll be back after this break.
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Let's go to one of one of Italy's more prominent political figures and someone I think with a great deal of wisdom about what's going on in Europe, what's going on in the United States.
And how we should view this next two to three week period as the President of Italy selects the new Prime Minister.
So, let me introduce to everyone Sergio Santoro, who is a very, very distinguished Italian lawyer, who has been very much involved in Italian politics for quite some time.
I'm going to have him describe his background and his political party.
And also, what I regard, now this is my personal opinion, as a wonderful opportunity for Italy, yesterday, with what we would call, I guess, the center-right coalition dominating the election, so that Italy can get a center-right government to try and straighten out the ills that have developed over the many, many years.
And then let's have Sergio describe to us, first, maybe we'll start with yesterday.
What happened yesterday, Sergio?
Yesterday, the left parties lost the elections and they will be at the opposite of the Italian chambers.
So now, when was the last time that happened, Sergio?
It never happened.
Really?
Even when Berlusconi won?
Yes, this is the first time that the right parties win the elections.
And this is the first time that a woman wins the elections.
Even more remarkable, that's Giorgio Maloney, correct?
Giorgio, yes, that's it.
Now, her party is called Fratelli Italia?
Fratelli d'Italia, Italian Brothers.
And your party is?
My party is moderates, moderates that is linked to the Fratelli d'Italia.
My party is moderates.
The moderates are the son of Christian Democrats.
Christian Democrats for many, many years after the war and through the Cold War were the dominant party, not just in Italy, but in Europe, in Germany and France, and so you're sort of the remnants Of the Christian Democrat Party.
Yes, I used to belong when I was young.
I used to belong to young Christian Democrats.
And the name of the party now is Noi Moderati?
Noi Moderati.
We Moderates.
We Moderates.
Between the right party.
We are moderate between the right party.
So you elected how many people yesterday?
Very few, very few.
Only eight representatives.
Six in the House.
Two in the Senate.
Six in the House of Deputies.
Chamber of Deputies.
Now with Fratelli Italia added to that, how many did you elect?
We have two chambers.
One is called the Chamber of Deputies and the other is called Senate.
And we have only eight representatives.
Six in the House of Deputies and two in the Senate.
And how many votes do you have for the, let's call it the conservative coalition?
I have eight. We have how many millions?
I don't remember.
Maybe 30 millions.
Votes.
That's how many votes you got.
And then how many Senators did that elect so far?
No, the Senates of all the coalitions are 115.
115 out of?
In the Senate.
The opposition are 115.
115 out of?
In the Senate.
Out of how many senators?
How many senators are there?
In the Senate, there are 115 that belong to our party.
And then, how many altogether?
What's the total number?
Altogether, 300.
300. 300. And now for the lower house, the common house.
The lower house, 600 or Almost 350.
$600.
Oh, okay.
$600 and our party gained 350 representatives.
Well that, you would consider that.
Yeah, 300, almost 350.
So you would consider that by most standards in a democracy, a landslide.
Yes.
The problem is that we have now to improve our loyalty to North Atlantic Treaty Organization
and to the United States.
We have to improve this.
These parties could do this.
Now, is it a definite conclusion that Giorgio Meloni would be the prime minister in a government like that?
Probably she will.
Probably she will.
But every solution is possible.
Even Draghi can stay another year with another majority.
How would that be possible?
Because, I mean, when I think of the conservative coalition, right?
I think of her.
I think of Salvini.
I think of Berlusconi.
I don't think of Draghi as being conservative.
No, Draghi is not conservative, but he could, he's a good commediator.
He's the best commediator we can find.
So, So he could stay another year more as premier.
Is that realistic?
You believe that's realistic, Sergio?
I think so.
I think so.
Now, why?
Why would that be?
Because the right party represented by Fratelli d'Italia could be not ready for Who makes that decision?
for government, has no manager for government. They should attend a school of government
before to govern, to be there, to be in the government.
Who makes that decision? Who decides whether they are ready or they are not ready?
Yes, who decides? The negotiation between the parties that have to give the, what you
say, the trust, fiducia, the trust to the majority.
And that would be the President of the Republic's final decision?
The President is the arbiter of this.
They will negotiate almost two or three weeks.
It's not immediate, the new government.
They should wait almost three weeks of negotiation between parties.
Isn't that interesting?
Because I do believe, Sergio, that in America, At least yesterday, in the haste of this big victory, the assumption was that Georgia, Georgia would be the, just given the numbers, that she would be the prime minister.
No, now it's impossible this.
Italy's law, Italy's life, institutional life is very slow.
The negotiation will take almost two or three weeks at least.
What will the main issues be as between them?
What is it that would have a majority hesitate to effectuate the will of the people?
The argument could be the place the ministers, what we call the di-casteri.
That will be the main argument.
The people will sit in the many ministers.
And those ministers will then be looked at and a determination will be made as to whether
they're ready to govern.
Yes.
And you think there's a good possibility that it might be put off?
Yes, the possibility is that Draghi now is called Lord Protector.
Draghi now is called Lord Protector.
Lord Protector.
I don't like that name, but okay. Lord Protector.
Protector, as a British example.
Yeah, it goes back to like Elizabethan England or something.
All right.
Lord Protector.
So what will the Lord Protector is going to hang on?
Lord Protector of the new majority.
Okay.
Well, with those kinds of numbers, 115 out of 300, 350 out of 600 for another government
and philosophy should give the Lord Protector a kind of realistic assessment that they're
not very, they'd like a change.
The Italian people would like a change.
Yes, they like to change.
But this vote is a vote of protest against some Italian problems.
As the vote with the...
Movimento 5 Stars movement was the same philosophy and it is as the Italian people want to try right party for protesting.
Quite clearly, yes.
Go ahead.
No, this success Can be ephemeral.
Now, do you get a vote?
Do you personally get to vote?
I mean, do you vote for the Prime Minister?
No, no, I can't.
I can't.
I'm out of representatives.
No, no.
So does anybody get to vote on this?
Is there a vote that takes place?
The separate chambers do it.
One, they vote the trust to the government.
The government is a proposal that is made between a negotiation of all parties.
So the president of the republic makes a choice and he presents it to both of the chambers and then they vote?
Yes, the procedure is that every party is received in Quirinale, that is the president of the republic office, and they say what they will do in the next government, in the next future.
Then president gives the presidential incarico, in charge, to a political person.
That could be, first time, could be Georgia Maloney.
Okay.
This could happen after the negotiation between parties and the visit of each party to the President of the Italian Republic.
And then, if he picks Giorgio Maloney or he picks Draghi, that goes to the two chambers?
Yes, the two chambers have to give the trust to the government that is proposed.
And would that most likely happen?
Is his recommendation generally followed?
After there is an example of government, this has to be voted by each chamber.
If they trust with the majority, the government starts to work.
And then when does the President act to select the Prime Minister?
Yes, after finishing the first round of visit.
The first round of visit, after finishing this round, the first round, he says, he gives the, how we say, incarico, in charge.
For example, to Giorgia Meloni, to make the government.
I see.
Would that be likely that he would originally do that because of the vote that he would give that to her first?
Yes, yes, it could happen, yes.
And then she has to put a government together that satisfies everyone.
Yes, but she could choose another way to govern.
She could say, we want to have Draghi as prime minister.
Oh!
Yes.
And she would do that?
Why?
Why?
To be sure to have a government long lasting, a long lasting government.
And she would do that basically on the theory that it's like a transition?
Yes, she could do it on the transition, yes.
Very interesting.
So that would be, and then she would present that to the president and the president would make that decision?
Yes.
Yes, it's not impossible.
Ultimately, it's the President of the Republic who formally, like the King of England, who formally decides on the Prime Minister, correct?
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Please tell us the name of the President.
We've been talking about him and we should know his name.
Mattarella.
Mattarella.
What's his first name?
Mattarella.
He's a Sicilian politician.
A politician born in Sicily.
And of long, long standing, right?
He's been in politics for many, many years.
Yes, many years.
For the first time, he has been re-elected.
He has been re-elected.
The first president who has been re-elected in Italy was Napolitano.
You stayed just one year, then resigned, and Mattarella was elected.
Mattarella spent seven years in the Republican presidency, then has been re-elected.
This is the first time this happened in the history of Italy.
No!
This is the first time a president's been re-elected in the history of Italy?
When did that happen, Sergio?
The first time that happened was Napolitano.
But Napolitano said that his re-election will last only one year.
Because he was very old.
He was very old.
It was over 80.
Then Mattarella has been elected the first time in 2013.
Thank you.
Okay.
Now, in 2020, has been re-elected for seven years more.
And is he, would you consider him popular and respected?
Yes, very popular, very popular.
And very respected.
Yes, yes, yes, very respected.
It's very loved.
Does he remain largely out of politics?
Yes, he's very independent.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's very independent.
Well, this becomes much more interesting to watch, Sergio, now that you describe it, than the simplistic way in which it's been described to the American people.
And I can't thank you enough for this very, very good description.
And if I may, over the course of the next several weeks, I'd like to check back with you to see how it's going.
Would you mind doing that?
I will be very pleased to.
Oh, well, I tell you, it was an excellent description of a law that's very unfamiliar to us, and I must say, was not described to us as accurately and as well as you did it, my friend.
Good job.
Thank you so much.
Good lawyer.
And you are located where?
I'm located in Rome, center of Rome.
I do hope that this election, without any doubt, It brings America and Italy closer, even closer than we are.
Yes, yes.
This is the new transatlantic moment, as the diplomats say.
Well, excellent talking to you.
We'll be talking to you very shortly, and thank you for that very good explanation, Sergio.
God bless you.
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Well, we have with us now another very, very significant and very important Italian political figure, and as you will see, a young man, which we like to see because we see a lot of future where we see young men and women involved in politics.
And this is Alessandro Battadocchio.
Did I pronounce that correctly, Alessandro?
Excellent pronunciation.
My father and mother and grandfather and grandmother would be so proud of me now.
You know, my name, Giuliani, is pronounced Guliani, Gulini, Gulian, It is a great pleasure to have you with us, Alessandro.
So if you would, would you, and you are with the party that we're probably the most familiar with in America because of the connection with Berlusconi, which was Forza Italia.
And, but tell me how this coalition, this is much more complicated now, this big coalition has emerged and the numbers that you have won, are of landslide proportions.
So describe this to me.
Yes, it has been a great victory, great victory of the center-right coalition
that is made of three different parties, My party, Forza Italia.
Forza Italia is Berlusconi's party.
The leader is Silvio Berlusconi.
And it's very important to underline that Berlusconi himself, he was re-elected this time as senator.
So he will be back in the Senate.
He got a huge amount of votes and he will be a senator of the Italian Republic starting in October.
And there are two other parties.
There is Fratelli d'Italia that is led by Giorgia Meloni and there is the Lega that is led by Matteo Salvini.
So it's a center-right coalition.
It's made of three parties with, you know, with the same common program and with, of course, with different parties joining this coalition.
We are very united now.
We have a common program.
And we are ready to lead the country for the next five years.
Now, your victory in numbers.
See if I have it correctly, because I find it remarkable.
If I'm correct, you won 115 or so votes in your upper chamber out of 235.
Is that correct?
or so votes in your upper chamber out of 235, is that correct?
Yes.
Wow.
That's amazing.
If I may say so.
That's an Italian, that's an Italian word.
I mean, an American word.
Wow.
That means amazing.
It's a huge, huge victory.
It's a huge victory.
And of course, at the same time, it's a huge responsibility because, you know, the Italian people are hoping to have a strong government.
for the coming years. You know, we are facing difficult periods and, you know, the Italian
people are waiting for a strong government and they decided to choose the center-right coalition.
So we have a huge satisfaction and at the same time a huge responsibility to be, you know, to be good and to to start solving the huge problems that are now in our country.
And now in the lower house, which would be like our House of Representatives, I think you call it Camara?
Camera dei Deputati.
I'm already a member now.
I'm a current member of the Camera dei Deputati and yesterday I was re-elected.
Congratulations!
And are you elected from a region?
Of Italy?
It's in the area of Rome, the capital city.
It's in the area of Rome and, you know, I was re-elected with quite a huge amount of votes.
Congratulations.
So that win, and again, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's 235 votes or so out of 400.
Oh, something like that.
They are still making some accounts, so we are having details tomorrow, but it should be something like that, so... Okay, so that's very, very... The first meeting of the new parliament will be October the 12th, so there are still few days to start working for the new mandate.
And then on October the 12th, we are going to have the first meeting of the new parliament.
So House of Representatives and of the Senate.
And after that, we are going to form to build up the new government that this time will be a government of Because, you know, there is a quite big majority in the both in the Senate and in the House of Representatives.
So it's a clear majority.
And we are going to to build up a strong government for the next five years.
And of course, my party, Forza Italia, will be an important player in this new government coming up.
There's one party that I spoke to, and he is not a member of Parliament, but he's a member of the party called Noi Madarato.
Now that's a sub part of Fratelli d'Italia.
Right, you are definitely right.
It's a fourth.
Let's say it's a fourth part of the coalition.
They are not the right party.
They are mostly.
Yes, that's what he said.
For the elections.
And they are they are going to have something like 10 members.
I think seven in the House of Representatives and two or three in the Senate.
So, you are correct.
We are actually four different groups within our majority.
Now, I do have to digress for a moment and point out that you're going to have, if it stays that way, your first meeting of the Italian Parliament with a center-right coalition on the day that we celebrate Columbus Day in America.
And in which we have a grand, grand parade down Fifth Avenue, of which one time, many years ago, I was honored to be the Grand Marshal.
And Berlusconi, Berlusconi has been the Grand Marshal.
In fact, I had lunch with him that day.
And someday, since you're a member of his party, I want you to tell him how at the White House, I once saved his podium for him.
He got up to give a speech, and his podium started to fall.
And I was sitting right beneath him, and I held it up so that he could continue reading.
And then he pointed out something like, not only did I know how to save cities, I knew how to save prime ministers.
And I was very proud.
I was very proud.
Let me tell you something.
In my career, I also had the huge privilege to be mayor of my city, north of Rome.
Which is?
What is it?
A small city north of Rome.
And I was mayor from 2001 to 2011.
And during my mandate, during my mandate for two times, I brought in the States the musical band of my city performing in the Columbus parade.
Wonderful!
Well, this year I will make it a point, because it's such a significant day for all of you, I'll make a point to participate in the Columbus Parade.
Now, tell us briefly what we can expect is going to happen between now and the 12th of October, and then how the new president is actually formally, the new prime minister, I'm sorry, formally selected.
So now, in the coming days, the new members of the Parliament will start going to Parliament.
We start all the procedures in order to have the first meeting on October 12th.
And, you know, all the different political groups are going to organize themselves.
And then right after the first meeting, I think the president of the Republic is going to indicate the new prime minister.
That then should get a trusty vote from the parliament itself.
So I would say that in the second part of October we are going to have the new government set up.
So when you...
During these weeks, we are going to have, of course, all the all the thoughts among the different groups of the coalition.
And we are going to talk about the new government and all and about all the tasks of the new government that probably will be led by Giorgio Meloni, that is the leader of the
biggest party of the coalition.
So basically between now and the 12th, you will all be meeting to determine your agenda,
what you want to move forward on, and then the people that you think are the best people
for the different executive positions within the parliament and try to reach consensus
on that.
You think you'll be able to do that?
You've worked remarkably close together.
I've never seen a coalition like this, where there are very strong personalities.
I mean, Silvio is a very strong personality.
George, she's a very strong personality.
You have a number of others.
And you put all of that aside for the good of the country.
I'm very, very impressed.
That's the point.
That's exactly the point.
We are working very close.
And you know, this time we have a common program that will... it's already the agenda of the coming government.
We have common points that we are going to work on them together.
So we are very close, we are very united and we are very...
Positive about the coming steps.
Also because, as I told you before, we feel all the responsibility of this huge result.
The people, the Italian people, they made a choice, a clear choice.
A resounding choice.
Yes.
Sometimes in the past, in the past, also in the recent past, The result was not so clear.
This time it's very clear.
The Italian people want the centre-right to lead the country.
And that's the point.
And we have been, of course, we must feel every day of our mandate the huge responsibility of this choice.
What would the major, to the common voter in Italy, the actual voter in Italy, you know, the many, many voters that voted for the center-right coalition, why were they voting for you?
What was the motivation to vote for you, the most important ones?
What do you think?
I think from our point of view, the Italian people understood very clearly that the center-right coalition is the best one in order to face this very difficult situation from an economic point of view, mostly, because in Italy we are facing different period, a different season on the economic point of view and, you know, our
Our projects, our program in this field were probably the ones that the Italians choose for the future, for their future.
So I would say that economy was the main concern of the voters.
That's right, that's what I... They decided to choose The recipe is the programs, the projects of the center-right coalition.
Which largely means reducing government spending, reducing taxes, and making things easier for business.
That dimension is unstandable in our country and we have to start changing the situation in this regard.
And generally, you know, in the also in the in the recent past from this in this field, you know, nothing was made.
And we want we want to reduce taxation in our country and we want to reduce bureaucracy.
We want to have a new approach to the energetic problems.
We are facing a huge problem with energy and, you know, also related, of course, to the international situation.
These points were, I think, the main points of our program.
And, you know, were the main reasons of the choice of the Italians.
I would say, would it be fair to say that they want a more common-sense approach to climate change?
Well, yes.
Yeah, I mean, not as hysterical and not as expensive and not as, in many cases, unnecessary burdens.
It seemed to me that that was a big part of the election.
Yes, yes.
That's the point.
And, you know, we have to feel the responsibility to give answers.
Yes, I know it's all difficult, but it's a very good sign.
And Italy has become a leader here because those things are going on in much of the rest of Europe and America.
What you just described to me, and there's more to it as that, this is what's going on in America right now during our During our midterm elections, the economy, very high taxes, extreme burdens on business where they're being destroyed, tremendous bureaucracy, almost to the point in my country of illegal activity by the bureaucracy.
And there's a strong, strong reaction.
And it reminds me of 2016, about five months before the election of Donald Trump.
England passed Brexit.
And many people felt that that was a forerunner of a right-wing victory in America.
And it turned out to be.
So, I think what your people are going through, there might be somewhat different, you know, variations of it, but it's largely the same feeling that government has gotten too oppressive, too big, almost too authoritarian.
They love to accuse us of being fascist, which I find horrible, but they actually more often use fascist tactics in what they're doing.
So I think people are very, very upset, and the Italian people spoke out very strongly.
I am very offended by, and have been for some time, The knee-jerk attack on Italian conservatives for being fascist.
And I would like you to just tell people that that's just an outrage.
It's just an absolute outrage.
Because they use it as a knee-jerk reaction.
Obviously, it didn't work this time, and I'm so happy to hear that.
We are a center-right coalition.
Forced Italia is a part of this coalition.
We are part of the European People's Party.
We have strong links with, of course, European institutions, with all the Western countries.
And I think, you know, we have to watch to the future.
Yeah, we do.
And your program is, in many ways, with a few exceptions for Italy or a few exceptions for Great Britain or a few exceptions for Germany or America, it's largely the same program.
It's a very common sense program and the reaction to massive bureaucracy and then also the deprivation of rights that took place during the pandemic.
And I really congratulate you and I hope as we move along, Alessandro, I'll get a chance to interview you because I'm sure it won't go totally smoothly.
Something always goes wrong.
We are very optimistic.
I'm glad.
Is there any chance that the president would not select Giorgio?
No, I think not, because the result was so clear.
And it is choice, of course, as the Constitution says.
It's the choice of the President of the Republic, but I'm really Quite sure.
I'm sure that the choice will be Giorgia Meloni because she is the leader of the biggest party of the coalition.
And this time the coalition is very united.
We have a common program and we have a single voice.
Well, that is very, very good to hear.
I want to congratulate you on how well you all work together for the good of your country.
It's the kind of unity that is a good example for all of us, that you put your country first, not Forza Italia or any of the other parties first.
You put the good of your country first, and now you have a very powerful coalition.
And when you put the good of your country first, you can't be stopped.
My boss, Ronald Reagan, I work for Ronald Reagan.
It's some of the proudest moments of my life.
He said, if you're willing to give the credit to other people, you can accomplish anything.
Well, God bless you and God bless my My great-grandparents' home.
All of them.
Italy.
Thank you so much.
Thank you very much for listening in.
I think the explanations were pretty much straightforward.
If you have questions, please send them in to Rudy.
Giuliani, cs.com or very very shortly we will have a weekly call-in opportunity for you.
You should be ready possibly by the next podcast or the one after in which you can join with us in a little discussion club and we'll be able to kick these things around You'll be able to ask the questions that sometimes you can't get through to on WABC because we only have an hour.
And we don't have a capacity for question and answer here.
And we're going to develop one.
And I'm thinking about, this is tentative right now, I'm thinking about like maybe a Monday and a Thursday night between seven and eight.
You just call in, I answer your questions, call in, I answer your questions.
And then if we can, we'll put together a couple of, a couple of, um, Panel discussion, so you get the benefit of a few other people other than me, particularly as we speak about the election.
It's coming up very, very shortly.
So keep watching.
Rudy Giuliani, CS for Common Sense dot com.
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You make us possible.
You make us possible to fight for the United States and our way of life.
And it's so heartening to see.
People that carry in their bloodstream classical civilization that became the bedrock of America from the Jewish people to the Greek people, or the Greek people to the Jewish people, I've forgotten which way would be best described, to the Roman people, to the people of the Middle Ages who carried on Christianity and law and so much.
To the modern people of today, thank you for your fight for freedom.
We're gonna need it.
And when I say fight, I mean we don't give an inch on their taking our freedoms away.
If we stay together, we'll have a lot more strength in doing that.
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