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BLM Is A TERRORIST Organization | Pastor Darrell Scott And Rudy Giuliani | Ep. 58
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It's our purpose to bring to bear the principle of common sense and rational discussion to the issues of our day.
America was created at a time of great turmoil, tremendous disagreements, anger, hatred.
There was a book written in 1776 that guided much of the discipline of thinking that brought us to the discovery of our freedoms, of our God-given freedoms.
It was Thomas Paine's Common Sense, written in 1776, one of the first American bestsellers in which Thomas Paine explained by rational principles the reason why these small colonies felt the necessity to separate from the powerful Kingdom of England and the King of England.
He explained their inherent desire for liberty, freedom, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and he explained it in ways that were understandable to the people, to all of the people.
A great deal of the reason for America's constant ability to self-improve is because we are able to reason, we're able to talk to each other, we're able to listen to each other, and we're able to analyze.
We are able to apply our God-given common sense.
So let's do it.
This is Rudy Giuliani and I'm back with Rudy Giuliani's common sense.
We now have the honor of interviewing Pastor Darrell Scott of the New Spirit Revival Center in Cleveland Heights, Ohio.
Pastor Scott, I'm sure you know, he was a very, very fine speaker at the Republican convention in 2016.
I don't know what kind of convention we're going to have this year, but I hope he gets to speak because he's dynamic, and he's extremely interesting, and he's got a unique perspective.
And I think this is just about the right time to talk to him because I think there are so many questions about what's going on around the country.
And I think Pastor Scott could put it in much better perspective than most people.
Pastor, how are you?
I'm doing great, your honor.
It's my pleasure coming on with you.
It's always a pleasure to have you.
So just right at the outset, we've got a country now, looks like certain cities.
It's not the whole country.
It's maybe 10, 20 cities back and forth.
Every morning you wake up, four or five of them are on fire.
People are being shot.
Cars are being burned.
The federal bill, I mean, Portland, looks like a war. It looks like Vietnam. When you look at
it on television, all you see is fire and smoke. So tell me from your perspective, what is this? What's
going on? Well, you know, there's always an insidious, nefarious criminal element that seeks
to exploit what they consider to be whatever tragedies or human suffering or grief. They seek
to exploit that.
And, you know, the George Floyd incident and the Ahmaud Arbery incident, they use those incidents as catalysts to advance their nefarious causes and their nefarious intent.
I mean, when you think about it, this isn't about George Floyd anymore.
It's not about Ahmaud Arbery anymore.
It's about the undermining of the fabric of the American system of government.
They're trying to Overthrow what we call and what we knew of to be the American way.
And I think there's also a political intent behind it as well.
They're trying to make things as disruptive in this country as possible leading into the election in November.
I can remember back in 2016, right around this time, we had rioting in the streets and we had a lot of civil unrest to try to disrupt or influence the elections in a negative way.
And so I think that's what the intent behind this is.
I believe that, once again, there are those with sinister purposes that are advancing their purposes through gullible people and people that are not so gullible, people that are actually in cahoots with them to try to undermine our American system of government.
And once again, to exploit those, they try to make feel as if they're oppressed.
I can remember in Mayor, you'll know this.
Even during the civil rights movements of the 60s, the Communist Party endeavored to infiltrate it by telling the black community how oppressed we were, and how the playing field was uneven, and how the playing field needed to be leveled through communism and not through capitalism.
And I see those same elements and forces at work today, trying to exploit underserved communities for their own sinister purposes.
The two groups that we hear the most about are Black Lives Matter and Antifa.
And the amazing thing to me is, a few months ago, Black Lives Matter was very unpopular.
Sixty, seventy percent of the American people didn't trust it.
They thought it was some kind of subversive group trying to Change our way of life.
Now we have 60-70% of the people who agree with it, and we see baseball players kneeling down in honor of them.
Even before the national anthem, they now kneel down.
And when baseball opened, they had a patch, MLB-BLM.
So they've come a long way in fooling people, a real long way.
How do we—how do we— How do we explain to people that this is a—this group is run by three Marxists.
They're atheists.
They're pro-abortion.
They're against private education.
They want to take away vouchers.
And they're against fathers.
They want to destroy our nuclear family because they say fathers are disruptive.
I mean, this is a very, very dangerous group, and two of the people involved in the funding are convicted terrorists, Eric Mann and Susan Rosenberg.
But nobody knows that, and nobody bothers to read what they say.
I mean, they're actually pretty honest.
They're not— Yes, they are.
You read this, your hair stands on end, but this is what they really—this is what they really believe.
They want to get rid of the military.
They want to get rid of the police.
They want lifetime salaries just for them.
Them must be nice.
You put it all together.
How about this one?
The retroactive decriminalization, immediate release of all drug-related offenses and prostitution.
So that includes the drug dealers.
Not the people using it.
I get it.
I mean, the criminal...
President Trump did a good thing in straightening out the 1994 law because a lot of people were in jail that didn't belong in jail.
But not the drug dealers, the drug users!
The drug dealers are like killers.
I mean, they're killing young people.
Yes, they are.
You're absolutely right.
Now, you know, Black Lives Matter as a slogan, as a precept.
I always used to say, when people would say Black Lives Matter, I'd say, you're leaving a word out.
you should say Black Lives Matter too, T-O-O.
However, as an organization, once again, as you stated, this organization is an anti-American
domestic terrorist group, if you really want to know the truth,
because they want to advocate, once again, the overthrow of the American system of government
to infiltrate our government, to undermine law and order.
And what happened is people have caved to the pressure of the left-wing media because it seems as if the left-wing media has become the propaganda arm for the Black Lives Matter organization, the propaganda arm for socialism, the propaganda arm for the Democratic Party, which seems to be in cahoots and to be an enabler of this Black Lives Matter organization.
It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous right now.
And once again, the left-wing media is the propaganda arm of it, and people have become afraid.
You know, white people right now are afraid in America.
You know what's sad, Your Honor?
I can be as outspoken as I want to, and I can exercise what I call black privilege.
Right.
of things, very bluntly and very frankly.
And the reason I can get away with saying it is because if you said it or someone else
says it, they will accuse you of being a racist.
When in reality, you're not being a racist, you're being a realist.
And that's what they don't like these days.
And so they intimidate, you know, people, they intimidate Major League Baseball, they
intimidate the NBA, they intimidate the NFL by trying to accuse them of systemic racism
if they simply express truths that are reality or express opposition to this Black Lives
Matter organization.
They think they're being pretty slick, but there's a segment of America that sees right through the bull crap, and they know that this organization is full of more crap than a Christmas turkey.
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Grief for standing up for what you're standing up for?
I mean, like, Black Lives Matter says, when you ask them about police officers, what about a police officer that gets killed unjustifiably, and he's black?
Does that matter?
They'll say no.
Police officers actually become blue, not black.
And they're just the same as a white—a black police officer, just the same as a white police officer.
What a crazy way to look at the world.
I mean, that's completely identity Yes, it is.
It's a racial, racist view of the world to identify a person more by what he does for a living than who he is as a person.
And they're doing this, once again, to further their own sinister, nefarious purposes.
They know better than that.
They know that's a load of crap to say something like that, but they're trying to justify the fact that they're not really interested in black lives.
They're interested in black lives if the black life expires at the hands of a white person.
They don't care about black on black crime.
They don't care about black on white crime.
They don't care about black on brown crime.
The only crime they're interested in is white on black crime.
If a white person kills a black person, they become nothing more than ambulance chasers.
Now we can rush to the scene of this crime and make a great big incident out of it
and overblow it and exacerbate the situation.
But when you look in Chicago and see people being slaughtered en masse, when you see babies.
getting killed, they're quiet as a church mouse, because it doesn't feed into this narrative that they have.
And it's ridiculous.
You must have, in Cleveland, and in your position as a pastor over the last couple years,
you've probably had some horrible murders of black people, white people.
They never help.
We had a young one-year-old boy that was killed a couple of weeks ago
right near my old high school.
He was probably in a crossfire.
His mother and father—his mother and father and grandmother, you know, they're heartbroken.
You don't see—you don't see them trying to help.
A lot of people are helping, Black and white helping them, but you don't see Black Lives Matter.
It's like—it's almost as if they don't want you to know that happens.
And if you do make mention of it, they seek to criticize you for saying that black-on-black crime is a problem.
In a number of cities, the black youth are being killed, innocent bystanders.
They want to minimize that.
You don't see Al Sharpton going to do that funeral.
You don't see Al Sharpton or, for that matter, Barack Hussein Obama speaking up, saying, if there's such black activists, if they have such a concern for the black community, you don't see them stand up and say, listen, we need to stop killing each other.
We can't complain about white-on-black crime if we're not doing anything about black-on-black crime.
We have to sweep around our own porch first.
We have to, as the Bible says, physician, heal thyself.
We have to take care of the problems within our community.
First, that the problems that we're perpetrating and the crime we're perpetrating, one against another.
Obama is quiet.
Al Sharpton is quiet.
Jesse is quiet.
All of these great black activists are quiet when it comes to matters of policing ourselves.
But they've outspoken, or oftentimes their silence is seen as complicity when they don't denounce and they don't decry the fact that this violence is ridiculous, that there's chaos, there's confusion, there's crime, there's anarchy.
What does breaking in a store, stealing flat screen TVs, how does that bring justice to George Floyd?
How does that solve the issues of the black community?
Rioting and looting and burning and pillaging and carnage.
And you see a former president of the United States who's quiet about it.
But you know what?
He was quiet about it in 2016 as well!
It's almost like he condones it.
And so, you know, and then here's a guy that says we need to fundamentally change the American government.
Fundamentally change what?
Which branch?
The executive branch?
The judicial branch?
The legislative branch?
What do you mean fundamentally change the American government?
Uh-uh.
He's full of crap, too.
And I said it here.
I'm not saying it here first.
I'm not saying it here first, but I'm repeating it here.
He's full of crap, too.
You don't mince words, and I think that's so important because You're right.
But looking from the outside, people don't get to hear these things because the mass
media doesn't print it.
I mean if a black man is shot by a police officer, whether it's unjustified or justified,
they will try to make it unjustified.
So yes, in the case of Mr. Floyd, they were absolutely right.
It was an unjustified shooting.
It has to be brought to justice quickly and with very strong penalties.
And the police have to learn from it.
They've got to take it and they've got to try to figure out how to make that police department and other police departments better at handling people of all races.
On the other hand, that's not going to solve much if you just solve the police problem.
That'll solve, you know, 10, 12, 15 murders a year.
There's another 8,000 to deal with that they completely ignore.
How can they live with themselves?
You're absolutely right.
And you know, I had a conversation with a black activist and the black activist was saying, well, you can't look at the, at the behavior of some of these rioters and protesters and paint the entire black community with a broad brush and say that, that this bad representation here is a representation of the entire community.
And I said, well, then if that's the case, you can apply that same logic to the police department.
Because you have some police that are bad actors.
You can't paint all police as bad actors.
You can't have something that's good for the goose and then not be good for the gander as well.
That's an excellent point, Pastor.
That's an excellent point, you know?
And the difference is, when a police officer like that acts that way, Everybody comes out against him.
Everybody condemns him, white and black, right and left.
I thought it was going to be a moment of unity for us, because it's the first time I saw everybody agree in the first day.
Everybody agreed.
The president, immediately.
Unjustified, get the FBI in.
People on the right, people on the left.
And I think Antifa, Black Lives Matter, the radicals realized they had to create a wedge.
One reason they created that wedge was because they were not able to somehow pin this on President Donald Trump.
If they'd have been able to pin it on President Trump and make Trump the target, he'd have been the target of hatred for this, they would have had a good day.
But the president, as you stated, he immediately came out, he immediately denounced the officer's actions, he immediately stated that there was an injustice done, and the left was like, oh, shucks!
We wanted Trump to say something so we could try to make him the face of this, but they weren't able to do it.
I'm sorry.
And the frustration boiled over when they had to take another tactic.
Well, let's just burn everything down then because we can't pin it on Donald Trump.
And it's sad, but that's what they wanted to do.
They wanted to make him the face of the You look at the mayor in Portland.
The president brought the federal people in five days ago, six days ago.
and they want to make him the face of this protest and rioting and they can't.
Right. Right.
And so there's a great deal of frustration there.
You look at the mayor in Portland. The president brought the federal people in
five days ago, six days ago. They've been rioting for 60 days and he and he blames it on the president.
What about the first 50 days?
What about the first 50 days?
And by the way, he was with the rioters when he got gassed.
I mean, this guy's got to be a complete moron, right?
A complete moron running a city.
Yeah, he is a complete moron.
He's with the rioters.
He got gassed.
And, you know, I wish they'd have cuffed him and took him in, too.
But you know what else is funny?
They're complaining about the fact—now watch this—they're complaining about the fact that we have agents there in unmarked cars And it's very smart that they're using unmarked cars because now that car can't become a target for a firebomb or anything else.
But when I was growing up and I came out of the streets, I had my time spent in the streets, there were a number of, a lot of times we were detained by agents in unmarked cars.
Of course.
We called them the Vice Squad.
Yeah, right.
Plainclothes.
Plainclothes.
We called them in New York.
Vice Squad.
And the Plainclothes are a lot more effective.
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Well now, how about this?
In my city, our best unit was called the Anti-Crime Unit.
Yeah.
The Anti-Crime Unit is exactly what you're talking about.
They're cops who are dressed up like regular people.
So they could mingle in the crowds.
They stopped all the pickpocketing.
They stopped all the purse snatching.
They stopped a lot of assaults on women because a guy starts it and he doesn't see a cop around, but you got a cop around and he gets right in there.
And they were the most effective against getting guns out of the city.
Yeah.
The day after he disbanded them, we had like 150% increase in shootings just that day alone.
And now we're up Last month, we were up like 140% in shootings, with them gone.
We already did away with our plainclothes in New York.
We don't have them anymore.
That's ridiculous.
And it's devastating.
People are getting killed because the mayor made that decision.
And all the mayor is doing is trying to ride a political tide, once again, to make Donald Trump look bad.
I mean, he allows... Do you realize, here in Cleveland, where I am, They have two Black Lives Matter murals that they have painted, and they've assigned 24-hour guards, police presence, to protect these murals from being vandalized.
24 hours, they're putting police to protect the letters BLM.
It's ridiculous.
But they want to defund and dismantle the police department when it comes to protecting American citizens.
It's stupid.
It's stupid.
And oftentimes, the plainclothes unit is the more effective unit because they're able to blend in and cut the crime off, actually, a lot of times before the crime is even committed.
That's exactly right.
And particularly in a place like Cleveland or New York, The main beneficiaries are the black community.
Because if you think about the black criminals, what about the black victims?
Yeah.
There are a lot more of them.
I mean, a lot more people, like every community in the black community, are good people, who want to be left alone.
Well, they're not being left alone.
They're being beaten up.
They're being shot.
They're being raped.
And I remember when I became mayor of New York City, there were 2,400 murders in New York City one year.
79% black people.
By the time I finished, I got it down to 500.
And the biggest reduction were for black people, and they appreciated it.
Tremendously.
And you know what's funny, Mr. Mayor?
They want to defund the police in the high crime areas.
You won't see the low crime suburbs.
They're not talking about defunding in the suburbs.
They're not talking about defunding in the areas that have low crime and modest crime rates.
They're talking about defunding and dismounting police in the high crime areas.
It's stupid.
It's ridiculous.
They're trying to turn the asylum over to the inmates.
Yeah, it's like you're fighting a war.
The battle is over here, and you take all your troops and you put them over here.
Who's going to win that battle?
The bad guys are going to win that battle.
Yes, they are.
I believe, and it took me a while and a lot of reading, this is also an orchestrated movement with people like George Soros funding it, two terrorists, Eric Mann, Susan Rosenberg, involved in training them, two convicted terrorists.
One of whom was pardoned by President Clinton.
Susan Rosenberg had 58 years in prison.
Clinton let her out after 16, when he gave all those corrupt pardons.
She has never disavowed being a terrorist.
At her sentencing, she said her only regret was she didn't kill the police officers who arrested her.
Those two people, Eric Mann and Susan Rosenberg, are some of the biggest advisers for the three women I think if people knew they were bowing down for an organization that was run by three avowed Marxists who want to overthrow our government, funded by two terrorists who have already been convicted of terrorism,
They'd have a very different reaction, and that's why we have to get the truth out.
Yes, we do.
You and I and people like us, we've got to just keep telling people and telling people.
You're getting fooled here.
This is terrible.
How about in your community?
You know, the people that you're close to in your congregation and your friends, how do they react to this?
Well, they know that it's a bunch of garbage.
You know, the media, the left-wing media, is trying to make the country oversensitive regarding matters of race and have everybody walking around on eggshells or walking this tightrope so they're so careful that I don't want to be accused of being a racist, when the reality is, in this American country that we live in, we're still the greatest country on the face of the planet Earth, White people aren't getting up in the morning saying, I hate black people.
Black people aren't getting up in the morning en masse saying, I hate white people.
They're allowing the media, once again, to promote this political propaganda and make the country oversensitive in matters of race.
Then you have a few high-profile dummies like Colin Kaepernick or LeBron James that, once again, are trying to overhype these matters of race.
I mean, when I look up and I see athletes, when you see Teenagers getting killed, and you hear them quiet about that.
And I say, well, let me see, these people have teenage children of their own and they're being quiet about that, but they want to exacerbate and elevate situations when it comes to matters of race.
It makes me wonder, who's paying them?
Who's behind this?
Who's organizing this?
This is more than just Random interaction.
There's a lot of organization behind this.
But the people I'm in touch with, the people in my community, the people in my church, they see through this.
They know it's a bunch of political smoke and that it's not really as substantive as people try to make it seem like it is.
It's a bunch of garbage.
Before I go, I have to ask you, because you probably know more about this than anyone.
How will the president do in the black community in light of All the things that are happening.
I think the president is going to do very well.
You know, in 2015, 2016, we pointed forward and we said, if you elect him, this is what he will do.
He didn't have a track record to speak of, so to speak.
But now we can point back to criminal justice reform, prison reform, historic low levels of unemployment prior to the pandemic, historic funding for HBCUs, the creation of Opportunity Zone, aggressive urban revitalization initiatives.
We can point back at that.
But also, there are some things on the table that are gonna come up between now and the election that'll be very favorable from this administration to minority communities in America.
I think we're gonna build on the base that we have.
I expect us to get into double digits with the black community as far as support.
Biden sucks, so I have to just put that like that.
Biden just flat out... I can't think of another word in the English vocabulary better for him than Biden sucks.
He's a horrible candidate.
He's a worse candidate than Hillary Clinton was.
And so, you know, he's not even on the—Kanye West is a better candidate than Joe Biden is.
Kanye West is more coherent and more eloquent and more articulate as a candidate than Joe Biden is.
I think the president is going to be all right.
You know, I remember when he started that, when he started at, you have nothing to lose.
Yeah.
Remember, that's the way it began, and a lot of his advisors didn't want him to do that.
They said, oh, you can't get any, you're not getting any black vote, you're wasting time.
He said, no, no, I think, number one, I think I can get a black vote, and number two, you gotta try.
Nobody ever tried before, really tried, so I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna ask for that vote the same way I ask for every other vote, and we may get a little bit the first time, more the second time, but that's how you build And change a political party, and I don't think people realize that.
I mean, he began—and he got a great reception when he did it, when he said, what do you got to lose?
He went over all the rates, the crime rates, the unemployment rate, the lack of jobs, the low wages.
He changed all that.
Until this pandemic, these were the highest numbers that minorities had ever achieved in terms of wages, jobs, lowest unemployment.
He produced what no other president produced.
Democratic presidents all promised it, including Obama, and they produced nothing in terms of economic gain.
They just produced welfare, more and more welfare, more and more welfare.
And there's no doubt as we come back out of the pandemic, and the economy is already showing a lot of life,
his first objective is to put all those gains back.
And I bet he'll do better second time around.
I think so too. I do too.
I mean, when I look at the stock market, the stock market is back up, and the left-wing media is being quiet about that.
And when the president said, what do you have to lose?
You know what he was saying, Mr. Mayor?
He was saying, give me a shot.
Yeah, exactly.
Just give me a shot.
Give me a shot.
They've been screwing you for years, double-crossing you for years.
And in four years, come back and tell me how I did.
And here it is four years later, and he's done a great, great job.
He's exceeded expectations, and he's exceeded his campaign promises to the black community.
Well, thank you.
He's done a great job.
Thank you very much, Darryl.
Keep at it.
I'll see you very shortly.
Thanks for having me.
God bless you, sir.
This man is exceptional.
We're very, very fortunate to have him on our side.
America is.
Thank you, Pastor.
Thank you.
God bless you.
That was a very interesting discussion with a very dynamic pastor, Darrell Scott.
He's one of the leaders, not just in the black community, but in America.
And if you remember his speech at the Republican convention four years ago, it was, you should go look at it if you want to be a speaker, it'll help you.
He really a great speaker and he's a great man.
So I was very, very fortunate to have him and I thank him very much.
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