Dec. 5, 2011 - Radio Free Nortwest - H.A. Covington
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Okay, good morning and welcome back.
This is Mike Harris on the Republic Broadcast Network.
Today is Monday, December 5th, 2011.
And our special guest today is author and social cultural commentator Harold Covington.
Good morning, Harold.
How are you, sir?
How are you doing, Mike?
Hey, I'm doing okay for a middle-aged white guy.
What can I tell you?
Well, in this society, if you're doing okay, then you're one of the lucky ones.
One of my sayings of the last couple of years has been, I have no problems money can't solve.
And it brings me back around to why is our society so dependent upon money for happiness?
Well, we've become a completely materialistic society, devoid of almost any spiritual elements, and that's a very large part of our problem.
Well, I agree, and that's one of the takeaways I had from reading your books.
I've read the Northwest series.
I've read all five of them.
I've read March Up Country.
I've read your white paper.
The white book?
The white book, I'm sorry.
White paper is a technical term.
It comes from back when I had a career before the demise of U.S. manufacturing in this country.
Before you joined the Lunatic branch.
Yes, sir.
Before that.
Before I had to examine the reality I thought I was living in.
Anyway, I wanted to invite you on because I found your books so not only enjoyable to read, but so thought-provoking and so stimulating that they were outside the box of what you find in conventional publishing houses.
And why don't you talk a little bit about how you developed these books and how you got them published, how you got them to market, and where people can get them.
Because let's just say I'm highly recommending them because they're fun.
They're an exciting read.
It's an adventure story.
It happens, what, 50 or so years in the future, and it takes place over 40 or 50 years?
A little bit clearer in time than that.
I'm very deliberately unspecific about dates.
Because I wanted to portray the entire NBA campaign and the establishment of the Northwest American Republic, so forth and so on, as something that could happen in the fairly near future.
I actually don't mention any actual dates, but this is something that, well, what with the political and racial and economic situation in the country, it's something that could happen tomorrow if the conditions are right.
Well, with the passage of that bill in the Senate last week that makes American citizens liable to be treated as enemy combatants within the country in violation of posse comitanus, that strikes me as something that might be more near than we think.
And one of the reasons I invited you on, Harold, is I've had listeners asking me, what do we do?
How do we prepare for this?
What do we do next?
How do we organize?
And I thought, well, you know, this would be a really good chance for a guy who's developed a hypothetical template, because all your works are fiction, to be able to share what hypothetically could be done.
Well, some people say when they read the novels that I'm inciting others to violence and criminal activity and treason and so forth and so on.
But that's not true.
I'm not inciting anybody to anything.
I'm simply making a historical observation, and that is that it's human nature to rebel when a tyranny finally becomes insupportable and unlivable.
Eventually, somebody, maybe us in the Northwest, maybe somebody else is going to have had enough of this horror show, and they're going to pick up a rifle.
Now, the Northwest novels are a series of five books that I wrote, beginning back in 2003, which described the establishment of a white homeland in the Pacific Northwest through a long IRA-style campaign of insurgent guerrilla warfare against the government of the United States.
This country last fought a civil war between I think it's time for a rematch, not between the North and the South, but between the federal government of the United States and freedom.
It is a historical inevitability that the white man in North America will eventually be forced to fight for his very right to exist on this continent.
And when I say fight, I'm not talking about tapping on a computer keyboard or going into a little booth and pulling a lever.
The question is very simple.
100 years from now will there be any people with white skins left at all.
The novels are based on the fictional creation of a sovereign independent nation in the Pacific Northwest based On the 14 words of David Lane, I don't know if you know who he was, but the 14 words of David Lane apply to white people, and they are, we must secure the existence of our people and the future for white children.
Now, as to how I came to write the novels, I was inspired to action originally around the year 2000 by what was done to like Pastor Richard Butler by Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Dee's, in essence, took an old man's home and attempted to throw him out in the street and make him die under a bridge because he did not like Pastor Butler's political and racial ideology.
This is what's...
Okay, Harold, we've got a commercial break coming up.
It's on the half hour.
We'll be back in about two minutes, so hold your thought.
This is Mike Harris on the Republic Broadcast Network.
Today is Monday, December 5, 2011, and we have a special guest, Harold Covington.
Harold, you were making your point about Pastor Butler and how he was prosecuted.
I'll see if I can condense this a bit, because we were talking about how the Northwest novels came to be written.
In 2000, Morris Dees at the Southern Poverty Law Center brought one of his usual bogus and malicious lawsuits against Pastor Butler in an effort to do...
The first member of the Constitution, which is a good example of what's not supposed to happen in this country.
But anyway, Deese was able to overaw a jury full of idiots up there in Idaho, and Pastor Butler lost the lawsuit, and they took his home.
Eventually, the local fire department burned it to the ground.
And anyway, I made a decision that this is not going to stand, that something at least was going to be done about it this time, but of course...
What can one man do against an act of tyranny and injustice?
And I decided that I was going to use my writing skills to write a book.
And so the book that I eventually produced was one called The Hill of the Ravens, which is the first in the Northwest novel series.
It does take place about 50 years in the future, once the Northwest American Republic has been established, and you get to see something of what a life in an all-white society would be like.
And the series just sort of took place.
It's called A Life of Its Own.
From there, right now there are five novels in the series.
I recommend that they be read not in the order that they were written, but in more or less the following order.
The first is the longest of the novels, called The Brigade.
And I think probably insofar as I'm remembered at all, that's the book I'm going to be remembered for.
So I think that's the first one that people should read is called The Brigade.
It deals with...
The Revolution in Portland.
It kind of goes through the entire five years of the guerrilla campaign against the United States from the viewpoint of people who are fighting for freedom in the Portland area and northwest of Oregon.
And then there is A Distant Thunder, which is the story of a single member of the Northwest Volunteer Army, as I call my insurgent group, a young man named Shane Ryan who grows up kind of in a trail park in a rural part of western Washington.
And then there is A Mighty Fortress, which again goes through the last few months of the insurgency in the Seattle area, and then what I refer to as the Longview Peace Conference, wherein the Northwest American Republic is established.
Then comes The Hill of the Ravens, which is, that's the first one that was written, and so that talks about, well, it's kind of a murder mystery as well, because it gets back to, you know, something that happened during the days of the Revolution.
And the fifth novel, which just in fact was published, Finally, online last week, and by online I mean that you can actually order the book now, is called Freedom Sons.
That's Volume 1 of Freedom Sons, and I'm going to start working, in fact, I already have started working on Volume 2, and what this does is it takes the first 50 years of the existence of the Northwest American Republic in five more or less segments, and it shows how the country develops,
how an all-white society in the Northwest would, I think, develop some of the problems that we would have to The purpose of my writing these novels,
as I said, once I started writing, they just kind of developed a life of their own, but you can't put together a jigsaw puzzle without the cover of the box to show you what the finished picture is supposed to look like.
I've been involved in white nationalist causes all my life, and one of the things I noticed down through the years is that we, well, as Colin Jordan once said, our movement has a very big heart and a very small head.
We don't seem to be good at actually making a realistic plan for the future.
If you look at the various movements that have occurred throughout the past 50 years in this country, Everything from Commander Rockwell's old party to the old Ku Klux Klan to the populist movements of various kinds, you always see this sense of drift.
There's no real plan as to how we are going to bring about some kind of restoration of American constitutional government or freedom or whatever it is the ostensible goal of the group is.
White nationalist and conservative movements in the past have taken a kind of a rotary club approach to politics.
More in bigger meetings, more members signed on, more membership dues, sell more books and trinkets and bumper stickers and so forth and so on.
And the thing is, though, white people are under an existential threat in this country.
The long-term effect of, well, 70 years, however many years.
All right, I'm back.
Okay.
It's funny, sometimes when I get highly interesting guests, my internet connection goes down.
Who knew?
Anyway, I missed the last part of that, Harold, but I apologize for the connection here.
But we will stay on this connection.
And I missed the last two minutes, so please bring me up to speed.
Well, I was basically pointing out that in the past, various efforts on the part of conservative white Americans, racial white Americans, white nationalists, whatever you want to call us, the original inhabitants of the original productive people of this country, We resist against the policies of almost, what, 70 years now of liberal government.
Anyway, all of this has been characterized by a sense of drift.
We don't seem to be very good at making plans or laying out any kind of real strategy that's going to work.
Now, right now, it is my personal opinion, quite frankly, that the Northwest Front My own group and the Northwest Imperative as a whole has the only viable, workable plan in the entire movement or whatever you want to call this thing of ours that might actually work.
No one else has any plan at all, really.
You get these vague things about, well, we've got to restore constitutional government and we've got to bring back Beaver Cleaver and the Brady Bunch and this sort of stuff.
And I'm sorry, guys, that's not happening.
The clock of time marches forward and not backward.
And so, in essence, What I think we've created here in the Northwest is an idea that will work.
And we have just about everything we need.
We've got a great website.
We've got a draft constitution for the Northwest American Republic, which we completed in October 2006, which actually gives us something that we can substitute for the present regime once we succeed in removing it from the Northwest.
And we've got just about everything we need now except for the boots on the ground.
We need the people.
And so what does that entail?
And tell us about, because the people that have not read your books, I have, why don't you tell the people a little bit about what life in the Northwest is like.
How is it different in life in the USA as it is today?
I assume you're referring to the fictional Northwest American Republic.
Well, for one thing.
Yes, I am.
I'm the hypothetical, the fictional work.
Ah, okay.
I suppose this is the point where I have to start shouting all this is hypothetical, hypothetical, all you FBI guys who are listening, hypothetical, fiction.
Anyway, in the Northwest American Republic, for one thing, it's all white.
The object of the Northwest American Republic is to provide a white homeland, a place where the white peoples of all nations can come and raise their children in safety and health, both physical and spiritual health.
Free of all of the poisonous influences of liberalism and Marxist socialism and multiculturalism and diversity and so forth and so on that have, in essence, destroyed America over the past 70 years.
It's kind of like trying to reestablish wolves in the Northwest.
They have to have a safe habitat so they can build their numbers up, and that, in essence, is what the Northwest American Republic is.
When you have a country with a racially homogenous population, That is free of all the conflicts and the problems that exist in a multicultural liberal democracy.
When you have a productive white and young population that is inculcated from birth with an actual work ethic, and you have everybody working, everybody kicking in, and everybody contributing to society, I think we will be amazed at what we can do once again.
So that, in essence, is the Northwest American Republic.
It is a lifeboat wherein the white man can preserve his very existence.
Well, Harold, let me ask you a question.
When you say a racially homogenous country, I look at countries like Japan, and they're racially homogenous.
I look at countries like China, who's racially homogenous, and how well they do financially.
Then I look at a country like India, which is racially diverse, and how poorly they do.
Can you comment on that a little bit?
There is a myth, a liberal myth, that diversity somehow imparts strength or joy or whatever, and that's simply not true.
Diversity and multiculturalism imparts weakness and division and confusion into a society, and I think that's been pretty much proven by the experience of the United States over the past few decades.
The fact is, multiculturalism doesn't work.
And can you give examples as to how this doesn't work?
Because a lot of people, this is going to be new knowledge to them.
They don't see it.
And I think we began to lose our focus back in 1958 when Eisenhower ordered the integration of the public schools in Arkansas.
I have always said that that was the turning point.
That is the point where the white man should have picked up the rifle again and resisted with force of arms when Eisenhower ordered those troops into the South.
But we didn't.
Of course, we've had to live with the results ever since.
But as far as the example, multiculturalism not working, I can give you one example right off.
It's called the State of California.
Right now, the bulk of the inhabitants of Southern California are illegal aliens.
And whereas previous waves of immigrants to this country, the Germans and the Poles and the Italians and the Irish and whatnot, came to this country through Ellis Island, they learned our language.
They learned English, if they know it already.
They were white, and so they were racially assimilable.
And so, as long as the waves of immigration were white and racially assimilable, the melting pot could melt.
But now we have wave after wave of non-assimilable third-world immigrants from everywhere from Haiti and Somalia to China.
And so, in essence, what these flows of non-assimilable immigrants are doing to this country is they are fragmenting American society.
They are forcing their language on us.
For example, in Southern California, you can have government forms and street signs and voting ballots and whatnot in about six or seven different languages.
and the very source of America's strength, which was the people who created Western civilization has now been, in essence, destroyed or relegated to the back seat.
And so what you're getting is not the strength of America.
What you're getting is the third world coming to America and imposing third world values, third world economic practices, and third world...
I'm going to support you on that point.
We had another guest on last week.
We had Frosty Wooldridge on, and his point was that You can't have a first world economy with a third world population.
No, you can't.
And that our population growth has all been through immigration of third world who's come here.
And you look at the composition of the different racial groups and how the different characteristics that are manifest.
And our Constitution doesn't state that everyone is created equal, but everyone should have access to equal opportunity, and that's not what's being manifest.
Well, a large part of the problem that white people have with their continued existence on the continent is not even so much the crime and the violence and the government oppression.
It's the age factor.
Not only are whites becoming a minority in certain states like Texas and California, but we're an aging minority.
The actual median age of white people is becoming something really horrific.
The world's population consists of young white women of childbearing age.
If we don't do something very quickly to establish a nation of our own, free from all this liberal crap, and basically free of the United States and the poison which is the United States government, if we don't do something quickly, the white race is going to become extinct.
Well, Harold, I'm going to give you a real-life thing that happened to me not two weeks ago.
My son's in eighth grade, getting ready to start high school next year.
And so they had the parents to the high school for an orientation, if you will.
So I went to his high school.
I look around, and it's Asian, it's Indian, it's Hispanic.
And he was one of the very few white kids in his class.
And so I was sitting next to a woman next to me, and she was young, attractive.
I asked her, you know, Boy, you have an interesting look.
What is your ethnic background?
She goes, well, I'm half Hispanic and I'm half white.
I said, oh, okay.
I said, which one's yours?
She asked me which one was my son.
I said, that little blonde kid over there.
And she goes, oh, my goodness, that's so cute.
They say in 100 years there won't be any blondes left.
And I fear that's true.
Yeah.
Well, that is why some form of white separatism is absolutely necessary in order to establish a homeland for white people where we can, if nothing else, just breed up another generation of white children because we're not reproducing anymore.
But in order to do that, we have to be free of this tyranny.
From Washington, D.C., because it's pretty obvious that a lot of this is being intentionally done, and that it is the intention of the United States government, the people behind it, that the white man become extinct through assimilation and racial melding, or whatever you want to call it.
Liberals have a saying about this.
They say that they're going to abolish racism through abolishing race, and we can't allow that to happen.
I personally believe that the system that we live under right now is absolutely beyond redemption.
It cannot be reformed.
It cannot be changed.
We cannot stop these people in a voting booth because there's nobody to vote for.
You have to have $10 million even to run for a city council seat.
Okay, Harold, we have our music coming up.
We're going to take a short break.
We'll be back in a few minutes.
Okay.
Good morning and welcome back.
This is Mike Harris on the Republic Broadcast Network.
This morning is Monday, December 5th, 2011.
We're on with a special guest, Harold Covington.
Harold, you made a couple of comments in the previous segment I want to challenge you on a little bit.
One of them is that my...
Putting the white population into the Northwest, if you will, aren't you afraid that we'll be marginalized on a reservation the same way as the American Indians are now?
Isn't that a fear?
And then the other question I had for you, and then I'll let you talk, is that you mentioned that the people behind the liberals.
Who's behind the liberals?
What's the source of this coming?
How can I put this?
Am I allowed to say the J word on here?
Of course.
Okay.
Well, basically, liberalism as a whole, just like every other form of leftism, Marxism, whatever you want to call it, it is essentially Jewish in origin.
Now, I want to talk about the whole Jewish question.
I, of course, will be ranting and raving here until noon, but the fact is that a large part of the problems we have in this society today are due to the Jewish influence on that society.
Now, as far as the putting the whites on the reservation, that is a fairly standard naysay.
And we're not just talking about life on a reservation.
We're talking about life at all.
If we don't do something about this to reverse this, then the white man is going to become extinct.
Now, there are still some people who say that somehow it's going to be possible for white people to pull some magic beans out of their pocket or whatever and bring back the good old days of Beaver Cleaver and Bobby Socks and backyard barbecues and Brady Bunch where everybody lives in a split-level ranch in the suburbs.
Guys, I'm sorry, that's just not going to happen.
Things have gone too far.
We can't go back to an idealized past.
Now, the realistic problem is, right now there's, let's pull a ballpark figure, a hundred million non-whites and undesirables of various types in this country, from blacks, illegal aliens, you know, homosexuals, various left-wing loons of various types.
There's at least 100 million people that, if that were to happen, we would have to deal with and, in essence, remove from society because that is what happens at various junctures in the history of nations and empires.
There comes a point where certain groups and classes of people simply have to be removed from society and from participation in the political process if there is going to be any hope for that society to survive.
And we've reached that point now.
Now, how are we going to do this?
Realistically, if we're going to bring back all 50 United States from sea to shining sea, bring back the Brady Bunch, so forth and so on, how exactly are we going to do this?
What are we going to do?
I mean, really, with these millions and millions and millions of people who cannot be assimilated into the American way of life, whose very presence is destructive, it would require a military force that we...
Realistically, simply are never going to have at our disposal.
Right now, the North American continent is headed for a Soviet-style breakup to various special interests and racial and ethnic groups.
The Mexicans are probably going to establish in the southwest this country they call Aslan.
They are moving ahead with this bloodless, well, not bloodless, but they're moving ahead with it right now.
Anyone who's ever been through Southwest and certain parts of California can now tell you that, in essence, it is part of Mexico.
I've lived in San Antonio, Texas, and I can tell you that it is essentially the northernmost city in Mexico.
Okay, Harold.
Here we go again.
Here we go.
We'll be back in two, three minutes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
This is Mike Harris on the Republic Broadcasting Network.
This is Monday, December 5, 2011.
Special guest, Harold Covington.
Harold, please continue.
The interruptions for commercial breaks are necessary.
But let me give out the number for dial-in callers.
If anyone wants to call, it's 1-800-313-9443.
Harold, where can people get copies of your books?
Where's a good source for them to go to?
Amazon or...
You can go to Amazon.com.
You can order them online from Amazon.
You can order them from Barnes& Noble.
You can even actually order them over the counter from Barnes& Noble, but you have to go in and place an order and ask for them.
You can order them all over various outlets of print-for-order.
Do you have a website?
Yes.
It's northwestfront.org.
N-O-R-T-H-W-E-S-T-F-R-O-N-T.
All one word.
Northwestfront.org.
And there you will see not only comments and stuff about the novels, but you will find things like a copy of the October 2006 draft, Constitution of the Northwest American Republic.
You will see our fundamental principles of Northwest migration, and you will get a pretty good idea of what the whole Northwest imperative is about.
That's Northwestfront.org.
Harold, one of the takeaways that I had from your books was that white people without the burden of supporting the minority populations, the permanent underclass, would be much better off.
Got it in one.
Pardon?
Got it in one.
Okay.
There you go.
Anyway, we have a caller on the line.
We have Werner from New Brunswick.
Werner, welcome.
Say hello to Harold.
Yeah, good morning, gentlemen.
I was listening there to the last few minutes, and I asked myself the question, what caused the population migration or the movement of so many different population groups from one globe to the other?
And I looked at the last few hundred years of the imperialist policy of the so-called great empire, who barged into other people's territory and caused so much...
Well, there is some truth to that.
I've lived in Great Britain, and I can tell you that if Great Britain had never conquered India and Pakistan and Africa and the West Indies, they wouldn't have a lot of the racial problems they have now.
So, yes, sir, I can see your point.
My view of it is that they should not be over here and we should not be over there.
So let's make a start, you know.
Get the troops home and make amends to some of the people in those countries where chaos has been created through all this military and colonial intervention.
Oh, I get it.
You're a LaRouche.
Oh, okay.
I haven't spoken to a LaRouche for a long time.
But what we need to do is we need to get the troops back home, and we need to get them down on our border to try and stop the mass immigration of Mexicans into this country.
I mean, I agree, sir, that a lot of the racial problems, especially in Europe, have to do with our imperial and colonial past, but the problem is that they exist now, and what are we going to do about it now?
And as I say, clamp down on the illegal activity of big multinational corporations and militaries all over the world.
And if people don't speak out...
Well, Werner, I agree with your assessment, but we're getting diverted off the core topic here.
And I'd like to stay with Harold.
We have him for a limited amount of time.
But thank you very much for your call.
Okay.
Okay, there's our next break there.
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This is Mike Harris on the Republic Broadcast Network.
This morning is Monday, December 5, 2011.
We're on with special guest Harold Covington, prolific author who has written a series of books called The Northwest Series, which I highly recommend for no other reason.
It's good adventure.
It's an adventure like you've never been on before, and it's a fun and exciting read.
Anyway, Harold, welcome back.
You're making a point about this is the here, this is the now that we live in.
How do we deal with this?
I look in the past.
I look at how in 1954, Eisenhower had Operation Wetback, where he ordered the deportation of all the illegal aliens.
Oh, yes.
We've had racial problems in this country before.
At one stage in the late 19th century, there were, I don't know about millions, but there were a lot of Chinese on the West Coast.
Congress passed a Chinese Exclusion Act, and large numbers of them, hundreds of thousands of them at least, Well, why do we seem to lack the political will to do that now?
In fact, we have just the opposite.
We're enabling these people to make lives here.
Well, because we have a corrupt system which wants these people here.
Now, there's no doubt in my mind that Barry Sotoro's administration is attempting to transform the very nature of the United States from a capitalism.
Capitalist Republic, however you feel about that, to a European-style social welfare state.
And for that, the Democrats are going to need perpetual power.
This is one of the reasons that the liberal Democrats especially want these illegal immigrants here in this country, so that they can be legalized, given the vote, and then, in essence, outvote white people and ensure perpetual power for the Democrat Party.
So the trouble with all of this is, like all Marxist socialism, somebody's got to pay for it.
Now, in our case, it's white people who are expected to pay.
The last remaining wealth in private hands in this country is owned by middle-aged and elderly white people, and the Democrats are now targeting that wealth and attempting to seize it through Obamacare and other means and excessive taxation and redistribute it to blacks and browns.
In essence, buying the votes of black people, brown people, and yellow people...
I look at this in another way, and that is, I look at the American worker and how bringing illegal immigrants in really puts downward pressure.
There is no longer a floor to the wage rate that productive citizens are allowed to be paid.
That was a purpose for feminism and women's liberation back in the 70s and 80s.
By releasing large or forcing, I should say, large numbers of women into the workforce, they helped create a large pool of, in essence, cheap labor and forced wages down for the white working man.
I just want to make it clear.
I'm not a Marxist by any means, but I have to say that capitalism is not too much better for the white man racially than Marxism and Barry's socialism because the Republicans also want these millions and millions of illegals here for their cheap labor.
Any jobs that they, for whatever reasons of convenience, don't want to outsource to Mexico or Guadalajara.
They keep going by bringing cheap third world labor here.
So both Republicans and Democrats have a vested interest in keeping these illegals here.
The reason that we haven't done anything about the illegal immigration problem in the United States is that both parties want them here.
They just can't step right up and admit why they want them here, but that's the situation.
Well, Harold, we've got a couple of callers holding.
You ready to take another call?
Sure.
Okay, let's welcome Larry from Arkansas.
Larry, how are you this morning, sir?
Hello, Larry.
Can you hear me?
We can hear you now.
Go ahead, please.
Welcome.
Yeah, my question is, if this scenario came true, would you still have trade with other countries?
Well, this is what the latest novel, Freedom Sons, gets into.
Like I say, it describes the first 50 years of the existence of the Northwest American Republic as an independent state.
And all the various problems that it would entail.
And obviously, in today's world, no country can be a complete island.
But one of the things I describe in Freedom Sons is how the white homeland would have to establish, as nearly as possible, a completely self-contained economy.
We will have to.
Manufacture everything that we need or grow everything that we need, and we will have to keep our dependence on foreign imports of energy and everything else down to a bare minimum.
Because, needless to say, the very minute that a white ethnostate is established anywhere in the world, it's going to be hit with...
Crushing sanctions just like they hit Rhodesia and South Africa.
By the way, I lived both in Rhodesia and South Africa back during the days when they were under white rule, and so I have personal experience of sanctions and how to get around them.
And yes, there would be certainly trade with the world insofar as the world would allow it.
We are going to have here in the Northwest a lot of things that people want.
Wooden paper products, pulp, timber, agricultural products.
Once we get agriculture back on a decent footing in this country, the Northwest Republic will be a food exporting nation, and that will always be something that's going to bring people coming to our door wanting to trade with us.
We will have eventually a young, intelligent, educated, and productive white workforce, so we will be able to manufacture things.
And when you make things, when you feed people, other people are going to want to trade with you.
Okay, that's what I want to know if you were going to trade with other people.
Oh, yeah.
So it won't be a total isolationist nation, at least on our part.
Now, again, I say that there will be attempts on the part of the liberal and Zionist world to isolate the Northwest Republic.
But, like I said, eventually, when you've got something that people want, as we will, they'll find a way to come to your door and trade for it.
Well, let's remind everyone this is a fictional work, and this is all hypothetical speculation at this point.
So far.
So far.
Larry, does that answer your question?
Yeah, and then you'd be able to travel to other countries as well.
One would hope.
People would be able to travel to you, to your country.
One would hope.
Now, there would be, in the Northwest Constitution, which you can find, by the way, at our website at northwestfront.org.
It states very clearly that the Northwest American Republic is a homeland for white people only.
No non-white or Jew or anyone who is not of one of the European family of nations will be allowed to reside in or enter the country because it has to be.
You see, the purpose of the whole homeland idea is to give us a home where we can raise a new generation of white children in health and safety.
That cannot be done.
Where there is any exposure to non-whites and the various problems that non-whites bring, there has to be one little sliver of the earth somewhere which is only for whites, a protected habitat, if you will, because otherwise we will cease to exist, which is what's been happening for the past century.
Well, Larry, thank you very much for your call.
I'd like to welcome our next caller in, Phil, from San Antonio.
Welcome to the show.
Good morning.
Good morning.
How are you?
Fine, fine, fine.
I heard a very interesting topic, but I would like to know a couple of things.
I am of Mexican descent.
I live in San Antonio, Texas.
I am a third-generation Texan, and first and foremost, I am a believer in the continent of the United States, and I consider myself an American first.
My race is just what I am, but I consider myself an American.
I served in the service, and I took a note in the Confucian Institute, Well, yes.
Go ahead, Harold.
First off, I've lived in San Antonio, and I don't really think you've got much cause for complaint because Mexicans and Mexican-Americans control San Antonio.
So you've got San Antonio, and the time will come when we have the Northwest.
As far as excluding other quote-unquote Americans, I don't think there really is such a thing as an American anymore.
That whole concept has been destroyed by massive third-world immigration.
But for us, we are white nationalists.
our race is our nation we don't believe in geopolitics we believe in biopolitics to make it as a long story as short as possible you guys are going to have your ass Well, you can consider yourself...
whatever you want sir but that's not necessarily so if you have a brown skin if you are of hispanic and racially mixed heritage then you are not an american you are a mexican you are a mestizo sir sir uh...
america was founded from a european Well, let me put it this way.
When the Northwest Republic is established, a lot of things are going to come out in the wash, and we are going to To do things the way, in essence, they should have been done back in the 19th century.
And the end result of that is going to be an all-white nation in the Pacific Northwest comprising the states of Washington, Oregon, Idaho, and most of western Montana, at the very minimum, possibly some more territory, but we'll see how that plays out.
This white homeland is something that is going to...
Okay, Harold, I'm going to have to interject here.
We've got a break coming up.
Phil, thanks for your call, and I'll address your issues when we get back from the break.
Thank you.
And welcome back.
This is Mike Harris on the Republic Broadcast Network.
Today is Monday, December 5, 2011.
Do we still have Phil on the line?
Yes.
Okay, Phil.
Well, anyway, the purpose of having a gentleman like Harold on is not for you to agree or disagree with him, but to merely introduce varying points of view that really aren't promoted within the mainstream media.
So please go ahead and continue your question with Harold.
Well, can I say something first?
I think I know where this guy Phil is coming from, because, again, I get this reaction occasionally, and people come to me and they tell me, well, you're a racist!
And I say, well, duh.
Of course I'm a racist.
Racism is the purest form of patriotism.
Our race is our nation.
Not a country, not a piece of geography, not a flag.
Our blood, what we are, is our nation.
Phil?
Hello, Phil.
Yes.
Can you hear me?
Okay.
Can you speak up?
I'm having trouble hearing you.
Can you hear me now?
There you go.
That's better.
I would say that, you know, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but...
I'm sorry, I can't understand.
I'm having trouble hearing you here.
Well, it was a melting pot so long as the peoples it was trying to melt were racially assimilable.
Right now we're being overrun by millions and millions and millions of third worlders, largely from Latin America, but also from Asia and the Middle East and other places in Africa, who are not racially assimilable.
who are not assimilating into American society, they're not becoming Americans, they're making us become them.
And again, I can offer no better example than the entire state of California if you want to see what multiculturalism does.
As far as the whole "we're all Americans" thing, actually, no.
As I said, I personally think we need a rematch between what happened in 1861 and 1865, and hopefully this time the good guys will win.
What's going to happen eventually, Phil, is that this country is going to break up.
Now, this is not something that I'm advocating or inciting or anything like that.
It's going to happen, whether you are like it or not, or I like it or not.
It's just something that's going to happen.
Now, the question is, will the white man get any piece of the pie, and is the white man going to be able to survive that breakup?
Frankly, I'm not concerned about you and your people.
I am concerned about my people.
What's going to happen eventually is the Mexicans, you Mexicans, are going to get your Aslan.
So don't worry.
You're quite safe down there in San Antonio.
Your city is going to become part of Aslan eventually.
And we are going to have the Northwest.
This is just the way it's going to shake out.
It's going to happen.
We're talking about an inevitable historical process here that can't really be stopped.
We can only hope to control it a bit.
Multiracial and multicultural empires do not survive.
That is a historically proven fact.
No multicultural or multiracial empire has ever survived in history because racial strength and racial homogeneity, I think is the word, is one of the sources of the strength of a nation or an empire.
And so this is the cards that we've been dealt.
We're going to have to play them.
And I intend to make sure that the white man gets a piece of pie when the pie is cut.
Let me go ahead and interject here.
Phil, I hope he answered your questions.
We have to move on.
We've got other callers holding.
So thank you for your call, and I hope you appreciate the divergence of the point of view here.
And that's all that, you know, having Harold Loan supposed to do was to introduce people to outside point of views, outside of the mainstream.
And I'd like to welcome Scott from West Virginia.
Scott, how are you?
I'm all right.
I'm okay.
I'm sitting here listening to you guys.
I just had to call in and give my opinion.
I think you're forgetting who it is that's actually kept everybody fighting with each other in order so they keep their agenda to take over the whole world.
And then until we all band together, right now, this is the closest we've ever come to having the whole world wake up and realize who's always been the prop world, who has always been the prop world.
Go ahead.
Please give me your opinion about this.
Who do you think it is?
Who do you think is behind this?
It's the Zionist.
There's no doubt about it.
It's the Zionist Jews.
Absolutely.
Yes, bingo!
What I'm saying is, you're not just going to grab a few states here and look what they're doing now.
They're taking over countries.
And if they don't abide and do what they want and deal with their bankers, they're just wiping them out.
That's what they'll do with them states up there in the Northwest Territory.
Because, first of all, this is the closest...
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I hope we answered the last caller's question sufficiently.
I hope he had enough chance to address his concerns.
But we have another caller holding, but before we take him, I just want to say...
Harold, I'm sure you've been confronted with this before.
Your writings are controversial because they run counter to what everyone has been inculcated through most of their life to believe about America, how it is, what it is.
How do you respond to these things when people come back to you and say, well, hey, I'm an American first.
You seem ready to give up on the American system and move another direction.
Well, I tend to say that the American system has given up on the white man and the very people who created it.
You have to bear in mind that the original American system was created in the late 18th century by a small group of educated and thoughtful white males, mostly of Anglo-Saxon descent.
For 13 small colonies where the population was largely white, and I think a lot of the mistakes that they made at the time, like never specifically stating that America was supposed to be for white people, had to do with the fact that men like Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson and George Washington could never imagine that their descendants would be so stupid as to consider a black man or a mestizo to be equal.
The fact is that, to a certain extent, Events have overtaken the United States Constitution and the old American way of life.
It was a very noble way of life.
I myself am 58 years old, and so I can remember growing up in the South, just the tag end of the old days, the segregation and so forth.
And I will always be thankful that I have a few childhood memories of a better way of life.
But, as I've said, the clock of time.
We are looking at the 21st century where we're going to have to reconsider and rework a lot of the things, a lot of the basic assumptions that we've had.
Now, in the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, it says one nation indivisible.
That actually was put into the Pledge of Allegiance.
As a matter of fact, the entire Pledge of Allegiance was created after the Civil War to try and basically indoctrinate the people of the South and make them give up any ideas of their own independence and their own nationhood.
So, the fact is, Mike, things change.
Situations change.
The 21st century is not the 18th, and we are going to have to find some way for the white race to survive this coming terrible century, and that's going to have to be through some form of white separatism in a sovereign nation of our own for white people only, or else, 100 years from now, there's just not going to be any white people.
Well, Harold, those are all good points, and let's take another caller.
We have Al from New York.
Al, how are you?
Okay.
Welcome to the show.
Well, thank you.
Yeah, I just wanted to say a few things.
Everybody knows that the New World Order, the Zionist movement worldwide has created this empire, and nobody agrees that America should be an empire, it should be a republic.
Their basic policy throughout the world is to divide and conquer, divide and conquer people, and that's why they bought all these people here.
I'm not against sending people back to where they came from if they're not citizens or whatever, but it seems to me like your entire message here is to be on their side and to divide and conquer, and you're just playing into their game.
Well, not really to divide and conquer, sir, to preserve what little is left of the white race, the white gene pool, and white culture.
But you are right about one thing.
A very large part of the problem came about many years ago when America decided to cease being a republic and start becoming an empire.
I personally consider the turning point to be our entry into World War I, thanks to Woodrow Wilson.
George Washington and the Founding Fathers always warned against the very thing that began to happen in the 20th century when America decided to...
They wanted to rule the roost throughout the world and dictate to other people.
And so now we've got weird mess going on, like we're invading Muslim nations and not just trying to steal their oil, but we're trying to transform them into us.
We have this idea that everybody wants to be Americans, and that's just not true.
I've always found one of the most significant things that come out of our invasion of Iraq in 2003 is that one of the very first things that was done by the occupying American forces once they'd captured Baghdad, Well,
Harold, isn't that really a leftover, going back to the Crusades and going back to the missionary period of colonialism?
That's what we've been doing now for hundreds of years is what white people have been doing in the world is going out and trying to force our way of life and religion on others.
What I hear you not saying is that we should leave them alone, they should leave us alone.
Yeah, I would hope that at some point in time a situation like that could pertain, but it never has, and you're right.
For many hundreds of years, we have been basically going into hot climates and trying to use the people who live there as, frankly, cheap labor for capitalism or convert them to Christianity so we can have souls for the Lord or whatever our excuse is.
If I had my druthers and I was some godlike creature who could rewrite history, I would keep the white man as a whole in the Northern Hemisphere.
I personally think it's a bad idea for white people to go into any part of the world where there is not four distinct seasons.
But I don't have that power to change history.
The fact is we did go into these countries.
We did either try to enslave or assimilate these people, and the result is we brought them way too close to us.
It's kind of like feeding bears in the wild.
Once you feed the bears, they come to look upon people as a source of food, and then they start getting into your campsites, running up and down the street, getting into your garbage cans, and because they have learned to associate the presence of people with being fed, and in essence this is what's happened to the non-white masses of the world.
They've come to associate the white man with being fed, with this high standard of living, with all of these good things that they don't have in their own countries, like flush toilets and police who actually respond to calls and don't beat the crap out of you.
Harold, let's make sure that, Al, are you still on the line?
Yes.
Do you have any other questions or comments for Harold?
The only other comment I have is that I believe...
Sincerely, that once all the white people get into one little area, that this little area will be about as big as the Middle Eastern country, and the New World Order will still be out there.
And you know what they'll be able to do?
Just run right over it like they've been doing all the Middle Eastern countries.
Sir, we get this a lot.
And number one, the Northwest homeland is going to be quite a bit bigger than Israel, say.
And number two, in my fifth novel, Freedom Sons, Volume 1, I deal with this.
Very objection as to what would happen when the United States attempts to reconquer the homeland, and I did that specifically because we do get this objection.
The purpose of the Northwest novels is to try and answer all of these questions, and I know I sound like an author trying to push his books, but you really do need to read the books.
It gives you a much better idea of what I'm talking about than I can do just in an hour and a half on this program.
Well, Harold, why don't you tell us once more where people can get a copy of your book?
Okay.
Well, you can, first of all, I'll say the first thing you need to do is check out our website at northwestfront.org.
Northwestfront, all one word,.org.
But you can order my five Northwest novels, which are The Brigade, Distant Thunder, A Mighty Fortress, The Hill of the Ravens, and Freedom's Sons, Volume 1. You can order them online through Amazon.com, Barnes& Noble.
You can go to alibris.com, and this is what's called Print Order Technology, so you can actually get some of the novels and times to give them as Christmas presents.
You can order them online, or if you want to email me at nwnet, n-w-n-e-t, at earthlink.net, my...
If you don't mind reading a novel on a computer screen, I can send you PDF copies.
The thing is, I didn't actually write these books to make money, which is probably one reason I have so little of it.
But it's more important to me that the ideas and the concepts in these books get out.
So, like I say, if you don't mind reading a PDF copy on a computer screen, I'll just go ahead and send you one or two.
Because we need for this idea to start breaking out of the bubble of the white nationalist movement.
Coming to grips with the ideas that are expressed in them.
I'm doing this basically to serve, as I said, the 14 words of David Lane, not for any personal profit.
Okay, Al, thank you very much for your call.
And, Harold, I'll give you the...
We've got about 16 minutes left on the show.
I'll give you the last 10 to go ahead and finish up and let the people out there know anything else you want them to be aware of.
Okay.
All right.
Now do we have another commercial coming?
Oh, no, go ahead.
We're good for another four or five minutes here.
Now, one thing I've noticed during all my years in the white nationalist movement is no one seemed to have any real idea as to exactly what we want to accomplish or how we're to accomplish it.
And so, my Northwest novels are kind of the cover of the puzzle box.
In that they show white people what the finished product of an all-white nation is supposed to look like, at least my personal vision thereof.
Now, you may not necessarily agree with everything.
I do believe that some form of independent white nation is going to come to pass in the Pacific Northwest as part of this great American breakup that I've mentioned.
It may or may not resemble in some way the Northwest American Republic that I have...
Laid out in my novels, but that's okay.
As long as we secure the existence of our people and the future for white children, I don't particularly care how it comes about.
It is inevitable that there is going to be a violent and militant part of this process that I think is inescapable.
It's just human nature.
Tyranny does not surrender power voluntarily.
Never.
Tyranny can only be forced to surrender power to the people whom it has oppressed.
And as a libertarian gentleman named Larkin Rose said recently on one of my Radio Free Northwest podcasts, the real purpose of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution is not so that everybody can go duck hunting.
The Founding Fathers put the Second Amendment into the U.S. Constitution so that the American people would always have the means to confront the United States government and its armed men, if necessary, to preserve their freedom.
Now, I believe that that time has come.
And again, I'm not inciting anything.
I'm not saying, hey, everybody, let's get together on the corner of Main and 10th Street and go burn down the courthouse or anything.
The stresses and strains in which the United States and its people have to live I've simply become too great.
As the poet W.B. Yeats said, things fall apart, the center cannot hold, and the center in Washington, D.C. cannot hold.
It's probably one reason why the FBI and other secret police agencies are so raving, paranoid, why they feel they have to go do things like framing Edgar Steele with bogus audio tapes, this sort of stuff, is because I think the people who rule us understand that they're on the back of a tiger.
At some point in time, as I said before, somebody in this country is going to simply get tired of this horror show, going to have had enough, and they're going to take the guns out of
I've always found it rather amazing that we have this huge armed population in the United States, and yet so little of our violence and our usage of firearms seems political in nature, considering all the boss tweeds and the corrupt politicians and the various The United States of America,
as we know it, is going to cease to exist.
It may be through a massive oppression.
It may be through some other kind of cataclysmic event.
We're looking at one, I think, coming maybe in the next few months when Israel attacks Iran, and Iran will retaliate by closing the Straits of Hormuz and cutting off one-third of the oil supply, so you're going to all of a sudden pull up.
Right-wingers, of course, refer to this as when the balloon goes up.
And I've always been kind of skeptical about that for many, many years.
But I have to say, it looks at this point like the balloon might be about ready to go up.
So the United States is going to break up.
Somehow or other, the white man, the people who actually created this country, the people who still, to this day, make sure that it works, the people who fixed the country, I believe that the way to do this is through white separatism,
through the establishment of a white homeland here on the North American continent, and that it needs to be in the Pacific Northwest, and I suppose I'll better...
Well, if I understand you correctly, and I think I do because I've read your books, is that you think that white people should self-segregate and do it today.
Yes, because we're running out of time.
This is one thing that I keep trying to tell my own people is that we have to begin this process.
We are beginning this process in the Northwest right now.
We have the beginnings of a revolutionary political party, the Northwest Front.
That's why our website is called northwestfront.org.
And we have the beginnings of an effort to bring the novels into reality, but it's just going way, way, way too slow.
The mountain is starting to move.
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Just hang on, folks.
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This is Mike Harris on the Republic Broadcasting Network.
It's Monday, December 5, 2011.
We're on the final minutes with author Harold Covington.
Harold, I have to say that I read your novels.
I find them to be exciting action-adventure.
I think that what you've got here is a response to the failure of the system that we have in this country to address the needs of the majority of people in this country.
And really, that's what it is.
If our government had been doing its job in the manner it was intended, you wouldn't need to write books like this.
That situation, unfortunately, hasn't existed for a long, long time.
I think everybody has their own idea in the back of their mind as to when things really started to go bad.
I personally date it as April the 8th, I guess it would be, 1861, when Abraham Lincoln called up troops.
In order to coerce the South into staying in the Union, at that point, in my personal opinion, the original America died because the original America was a compact between the white people of the country at the time through their several states, and it was a voluntary compact.
The right to secede from the Union, the right to divorce, if you will, was always implicit in the writings of the various Founding Fathers.
And when Lincoln decided that he was going to use force against other Americans to keep them by force in the United States, he was going to use force against other Americans At that point America ceased to be a republic and became an empire.
So that's my personal viewpoint as to when things started to go bad, but others have different viewpoints.
You and I are about the same age, but we've had the Kennedy assassination, we've had the 9-11 events, we've had a number of other things that have happened that have all added to the downward spiral, if you will, of what was once a proud and great nation.
Oh yeah, the deterioration that I have simply seen in my lifetime is incredible.
I like to tell people I'm just as old as integration.
Brown versus Board of Education, the Supreme Court ruling that started the integration of the public schools and the deterioration of the American educational system was handed down just a few months after I was born.
So you might say that the problem is as old as I am.
Well, the question comes is, these policy decisions that have been made, we look at the results of them and we have to challenge.
Did they get the desired results?
Yes or no?
And how do we correct them from here?
And although your hypothetical example in your novels is some people would consider extreme withdrawing from the U.S., and I'm not going to comment whether or not it is, I think it's an interesting read, but the policy decisions that have been made in the United States over the last 50 years or so, have they been good?
Have they achieved the desired goals?
And if not, where do we get back on track?
Absolutely not.
And blacks and various minorities claim all down through the years and say, well, we want equality of opportunity.
No, they don't want that.
What they want is equality of results.
And that is not possible because blacks and other racial groups genuinely are genetically and mentally inferior to whites.
There is no way that blacks can achieve Okay.
recently where you had entire schools of teachers having little fraud parties at their homes and in the auditorium and whatnot, falsifying their test scores and their records.
Harold, you're bringing up enough material for an entire other segment on the show.
Okay.
And I would like to extend the invitation to you to come back at a future date.
Anytime.
And you and I will work that out and coordinate it.
But, you know, the whole issue here addresses the topic of the book, The Bell Curve.
And I'd like to invite you back for the future.
If you don't get fired for having me all this time.
Okay.
Well, there's our music.
And I want to thank all the listeners for joining us today.