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Welcome to episode 5 of QAnon Anonymous.
I am your host Jake and I'm your co-host Julian.
Alien life, like a pedophile, you know, and it just seems to tie all of that together.
Welcome to episode 5 of QAnon Anonymous. I am your host Jake and I'm your co-host Julian.
And today we are going to move away from some of the drops, well not entirely, and focus more in on a much grander
question.
Who is Q?
Now, again, we are not comprehensive.
We're only comprehensible.
So that's all we promise is that you'll understand more or less the words coming out of our mouths.
And we haven't explored maybe all avenues.
The next episode, we'll see us putting a little cap in this and touching base with a specialist who has a few more leads.
But I have touched on the leads that I found the most credible.
And then we can speak a little bit at the end about some of the least Less interesting ones?
They might be credible, but they're just less interesting.
Yeah, I mean, I find that the hard analysis always ends up kind of ruining the fun part of the conspiracy.
So I like to sort of live in this armchair expert sort of playground, if you will.
Well, I like to see you squirm.
I like to make you nervous.
And I like to see your recovery progress.
And so... I don't get nervous.
You get even?
And I sure as hell don't squirm.
Damn, where'd that come from, man?
I should be doing voiceovers and shit.
I'm sweating, though.
Fuck.
Before we jump into this, I just wanted to say thank you to all of those who've supported us on Patreon.
Please go and pledge $5 a month on Patreon to get access to our premium episodes.
We're recording a second one very soon, and we're trying to reach 200 a month so that we can step up the amount of premium episodes we provide.
So if you want to get to know us a little more and just support the podcast for the cost of a beer a month, Please go to patreon.com slash QAnonAnonymous.
And I'm no math major, but I think right now we are at 1 eighth of that goal of 200 a month.
Yeah, you're no math major.
Somewhere around there.
No math major, but let me make a prediction about numbers.
So, 29 over 200.
Um, well... One-eighth.
Done.
One-eighth.
Done.
Yeah, one-eighth.
That's a nice eighth, too.
Please don't write in to correct us.
Yeah, yeah.
You can write to correct me, but not Julian.
He can't take it.
Also, join us on Twitter, where we've had quite a few kerfuffles in the last week.
I think my criticism of the Democratic Party at times makes MAGA trolls believe that I'm on their side, and then they pile on and like my shit to death.
And then I have to argue with liberals in the fucking comments, where they're just going, well, you love Trump.
I'm like, I don't love Trump.
I'm just saying something about Obama right now.
It's very hard for liberals to process that anyone would criticize Obama in an era where Trump is up there on the stage, which I can understand.
I get that.
Yeah, totally.
But come on, guys.
We have to look at what happened for eight years to allow this clown to be elected.
And by that, I mean respectable, man.
We like to play in that gray area that has seemed to sort of disappear from politics nowadays.
I don't like to play in that gray area.
Jake likes to be... I like to be as gray as the whiskers on my chin.
So I changed the cover of the podcast and the cover of our Twitter just so it's blue background.
Wait, what?
It's the same design, it's beautiful still.
But it's blue?
It's not, well it's like still, there's still red elements in it.
Okay.
But currently our AVI on Twitter just looks like a MAGA, like bright red, like badly designed.
Well, I mean, that's up to the interpreter.
The problem is that a lot of our listeners are going to be maybe turned off right off the bat.
Like, I've had several people just tell me, why don't you just put the word comedy in there?
And you know what?
Do some research, as Q says, okay?
And join us on Twitter, QAnonAnonymous, and follow us just so we stop getting called Russian bots.
Which, by the way, if you criticize the Russian party, if you criticize the Democratic Party, expect everybody on Twitter to call you a bot.
A guy called Hawaiian Comedian.
He had misspelled Hawaiian.
Fair.
It's a difficult word.
Claimed to be a veteran.
I'm not saying he isn't, but he really, really could not stop against us.
And I was just like, hey man, have you actually gone to our bio and looked at it or listened to the podcast?
He was not having any of it.
He's like, shut the fuck up!
Yeah, he looked at a headline.
He's a humorless... He made a decision.
Humorless bastard.
He's sticking to it.
I had a human at a social gathering a couple weekends ago tell me that she was convinced that Bernie Sanders was a Russian operative.
Yeah, there's a big wing of America, and those people to me are as far gone as the craziest QAnon people.
The funny thing is, and then let's get into some of this analysis, is that Saying that Bernie Sanders is a Russian operative, you almost are so, so left that you're right.
You know what I mean?
I think what you need to look at is, what purpose could Putin possibly have to have America provide better health care to their people and a decent living wage?
Like, what profit would he get from that?
He's not even running a socialist country anymore.
His country is like a weird capitalist fascist... Yeah, totally.
Nation, just like China.
Capitalism and fascism work perfectly together.
They sure do.
Anyways, Bernie Sanders is a Russian bot.
We're both Russian bots.
Yeah, if you punch Bernie Sanders hard enough in the chest, it'll cave in the outer layer of synthetic skin.
Yeah.
And there's a small, small Russian man inside piloting him like a fucking mech.
Yeah.
And Bernie Sanders has killed several people by shooting rubles out of his eyeballs.
Yeah, he sure has.
It's crazy out there.
I think we should jump right into the episode at this point, and I'm going to discuss first a kind of mainstream, relatively credible, in that you can see that there was a lot of research that went into it.
Does it prove anything?
Who knows?
But anyways.
One theory by NBC tracks the creation of Q back to this conversation on 4chan.
Brandy Zdrozny and Ben Collins, who worked on this together, write in the article, In November 2017, a small-time YouTube video creator and two moderators of the 4chan website, one of the most extreme message boards on the internet, banded together and plucked out of obscurity an anonymous and cryptic post from the many conspiracy theories that populated the website's message board.
Over the next several months, they would create videos, a Reddit community, a business, and an entire mythology based off the 4chan posts of Q, the pseudonym of a person claiming to be a high-ranking military officer.
The theory they espoused would become QAnon, and it would eventually make its way from the message boards to the national media stories and the rallies of President Donald Trump.
So at this point in the article, they basically kind of admit that although they found the original conversation, they can't truly prove that these people are the original author or authors behind Q. So they write, Before Q, there was a wide variety of 4chan posters all claiming to have special government access.
And this actually ties into Pizzagate, which sort of ties into, which is a baby brother of QAnon.
In 2016, there was F.B.
Ayanan, a self-described high-level analyst and strategist, offering intel about the 2016 investigation into the Clinton Foundation.
Then came H.L.
Ayanan, an acronym for High-Level Insider, who posted about various dubious conspiracies and riddles, including one that claimed that Princess Diana had been killed because she had found out about 9-11 beforehand.
Oh, I haven't heard that.
That's fucking awesome.
And tried to stop it.
Wow, can you imagine?
I want to see that fucking movie of Princess Diana stopping 9-11.
Young writers out there, if you want a great story, you're going to have to change all of it or Hollywood will never make it.
But yeah, you could totally use that thread.
Our only chance is to kill Tom Cruise and reinstate the corpse of Princess Diana.
Impossible.
Cruise cannot be killed.
He has too many Xenu photons running through his body.
That's the part you think is impossible, not reviving Princess Diana.
Absolutely not.
Have you seen the new Mission Impossible movie?
No.
Spoiler alert, it's great.
They revive Princess Diana.
then cia non and cia intern the guy who doesn't get paid any money who's like well my
dad got me a job here and
i've got slightly less good information yeah but not bad though
yeah my buddy hit me up on a.i.m. and um he's got a thing or two uh
they're like just go sharpen the pencils doug Yeah, FBI interns definitely get let in on the deep state.
And I feel like his name would be Doug.
Anyways, a CIA intern took to the boards in early 2017 and last August called one White House insider anon, and last August one so-called White House insider anon offered a supposed preview that something was going to go down regarding the DNC and the leaks.
QAnon was just another unremarkable part of the Anon genre until November 2017, when two moderators of the 4chan board, where Q posted predictions, who went by the usernames PamphletAnon and Baruch the Scribe.
Baruch the Scribe?
Whatever.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
Reached out to Tracy Diaz, according to Diaz's blogs and YouTube videos.
Baruch the Scribe, in reality, a self-identified web programmer from South Africa named Paul Ferber, Disappointing.
Great name.
Sounds like a pen company.
Confirmed that account to NBC News.
A bunch of us decided... This is a quote.
A bunch of us decided that the message needed to go wider, so we contacted YouTubers who had been commenting on the Q-drops.
And now I'm going to read the quote as if it's the real deal.
A bunch of us decided that the message needed to go wider, so we contacted YouTubers who had been commenting on the Q-drops.
Furber sent in an email.
I'll continue.
Diaz, a small-time YouTube star who once hosted a talk show on the fringe right-wing network Liberty Movement Radio, which to me sounds like you're pooping.
You know what that sounds like?
That sounds like the radio station that you find in, like, Fallout 3, you know?
Totally.
Where, like, the guys who end up dropping... Don't worry, the nukes are safe!
Like it's all this weird disinformation.
Don't worry, I'm trying to get a signal out by Ghost Town.
So, um, she had found moderate popularity with a couple of thousand views for her YouTube videos analyzing WikiLeaks releases and discussing the Pizzagate conspiracy.
Which, you know, for reminder, is a theory that alleges that a child sex ring was being run out of a Washington pizza shop.
Well, it says a baseless theory.
I didn't say baseless.
I took that out.
I think that... We all know that... Here's what I think.
Here's what I think.
I think the pizza shop part of it is baseless.
Oh, okay.
But I think that there are other weird things, and we can get into this on another episode, there are other weird things that, like, maybe make you go, ah.
It's not that, like, this is definitely an undercover pedophile ring, but it's like, ah, they're clearly speaking in some sort of code.
Maybe they were trying to order weed.
Yeah, like I said in a previous episode, I felt like Adderall or Coke or just something that someone in that position might enjoy more than just trying to rape a child.
Which, by the way, is not a pleasant experience for most human beings.
I think the assumption that a lot of these conspiracy theories have is that, left to their own devices, human beings go on child raping sprees on a daily basis.
And the only thing holding us back, really, is a nice, strong, authoritative government That, you know, makes sure that we don't go full pedo.
Yeah, that says, hey, it's illegal for you, but not for me.
Yeah, it's illegal for you.
The Catholic Church, however... Yeah, I, we... Anyways, go ahead.
Um, okay.
So, as Diaz tells it in a blog post detailing her role in the early days of QAnon, she banded together with the two moderators.
Their goal, according to Diaz, was to build a following for QAnon, which would mean bigger followings for them as well.
On November 3rd, 2017, just six days after the first 4chan post from Q, Diaz posted a video
entitled, slash Paul slash Q clearance Anon is it hashtag happening three question marks
in which she introduced the conspiracy theory to her audience.
So, okay, so I looked into this a bit.
I looked into her.
All of her videos involve links to her Patreon and PayPal, and I think that's what the big hubbub was about, especially internally, because as you'll see later, she becomes very quickly a source of conflict within the Q community.
And yeah, there's a lot of interesting infighting.
In fact, this episode's a lot more about infighting than it really is about figuring out who's Q, because there's an incredible amount of classic message board drama that goes on in this stuff.
Yeah, no matter what kind of clearance you have, no matter who you are, whether you're a LARPer or you're saving the world, I mean, you're gonna run into some message board drama.
That's what happens on the boards, yo!
You make friends with the mods, know the mods IRL, and just brace yourself for your ban.
It's gonna come one day.
Everybody gets banned.
Everybody gets banned at the end of their life.
That's how it works.
God bans you from the message board of life on earth.
Yeah.
He brings you to the, basically he brings you for the four Chan of earth
up into the eight Chan in the sky.
And when you get like up there and you're kind of like sick, like you got cancer,
that's like slowly eating your body away and stuff.
Like heaven?
It's like, no, no, no.
I'm saying like towards the end of your life here, like that's a shadow ban.
So you're still here, you're still here,
but you're not like completely banned.
But no one cares about your shit posting.
Yeah.
Yeah, nobody really cares.
Nobody can see it, unfortunately, and that's usually when you come up with your best shitpost, you know?
That's dark.
Okay, so she claims in her videos that her only source of income is donations from people who fund her research, and so NBC found this to be a little bit, quote-unquote, suspicious.
I'm not personally of that opinion, that that automatically makes her involved with the creation of Q, just because she profited from it.
Off every grift, there's a million sub-grifts, and America's just one big grift pyramid at this point.
So good on you, Diaz, so far.
I think she's just a great entrepreneur.
Okay, so she said this.
Because I covered Q, I got an audience, Diaz acknowledged in a video that NBC News reviewed last week, before she deleted it.
So, okay, so I look, now let's take a break here because I looked into it.
Yes, let's analyze.
Honestly, my brain got broken by the amount of infighting, just the comments and endless comments.
So people are accusing her of plagiarism and of pretending to be in touch with Q or something like that.
It wasn't entirely clear.
They called her a patriot with a Y, you know, patriot for money.
That's a new one.
Also, I found posts claiming that the other two guys mentioned in this theory had been called out by Q. In fact, in this post, Q does seem to do just that, although there are other theories surrounding this post.
But Q writes, Be careful who you are following.
Some are profiting off this movement.
Some are building a big following off this movement, only then to retreat and go mainstream.
Patriots make sacrifices.
Some The ultimate sacrifice.
Patriots are selfless.
In all caps, by the way.
Do they ask for monthly payments to remain Patriots?
Think logically.
To some, it's only about the money.
Those who would seek personal gain at the expense of others, in this movement, has an agenda.
You decide.
This is not a game!
The only profit we should all be striving for is true freedom.
God bless you all.
Q. So NBC figured out who Pamphletonon is.
Coleman Rogers is his name.
So he was contacted and he, when he was contacted about his real identity, like they contacted this man called Coleman Rogers and asked him, like, are you Pamphletonon?
Yeah.
He just responded in all caps, we do not talk to fake news, which pretty much confirms that it's him, I mean, right?
Yeah, totally.
Otherwise, it would have been a pretty weird rando.
Also, I love that he sounds like a camping lamp.
Coleman Rogers.
Yeah, that is like a North American camping company and a Canadian cell phone company all blended into one.
Hells yeah.
So anyways, it seems like they all got kicked off of Reddit at some point, and Ferber now believes that the Q board was taken over by fakers.
So this generation of kind of Q people that were involved with the beginning, they accuse People are basically taking away the Q account.
Rogers ran a channel called Patriot Soapbox from which he live streams.
So let's examine his history a little bit as recounted by NBC.
It was a natural progression for Rogers.
A review of Rogers' Facebook page shows that he had been active in internet politics and a staunch supporter of Donald Trump during the 2016 election, self-identifying as part of the meme war.
The creation and dissemination of images and internet-style commentary that internet agitators on the chans and reddit... and reddit credit... Jesus Christ!
That's a terrible writing.
Never write the words reddit and credit right after each other, NBC.
Yeah, the creation and dissemination of images and internet-style commentary that internet agitators on the chans and reddit credit with Trump's win.
Rogers often posted memes about liberal tears as well as the ludicrous... I can't believe they're giving these guys...
Any sort of time of day.
Well, they're discussing the beginning of QAnon.
That's why they're giving them time of day.
Right, but it's like, that's the most basest, like, Trump memes.
Yeah.
Okay.
As well as the ludicrous claims that Democrats murdered children and worshipped Satan.
Details similar to those that would eventually form the QAnon theory.
Rogers' Facebook updates waned after Trump took office, but started up again in the fall when he began posting Q messages to both confused and supportive family and friends.
It's like you and me.
Totally.
It's like, what's happening to Jake?
Rogers has publicly denied that he is the author of the Q posts, though his last visible Facebook post, published on August 2nd, hinted that he might someday be associated with the theory.
Can I be him?
Oh yeah.
Tim Bucks says you'll see my face on national news within a few weeks saying that I'm the mysterious hacker known as QAnon lol.
Sorry, I'm adding a lol.
I'm adding a lol because I feel like he should have wrote it there and maybe NBC omitted it.
Rogers wrote, a reference to a CNN segment that mistakenly referred to the website 4chan as a hacker.
Oh my god.
Following a request for comment from NBC News, Rogers deleted every post on his Facebook profile after 2014.
Following another message from a reporter informing him that NBC News had archived his page, he deleted his Facebook account entirely.
Wow.
So clearly a hacker.
You know, hackers know how to cover their tracks.
You know, hackers typically post public on Facebook to their whole friends and family.
That's what hackers like to do.
So, I kind of asked myself at this point in the article, so what actual proof does NBC have that this guy was an insider and at least had access to the Q account?
And this is where it gets kind of interesting, actually.
So, they say in the article, one archived live stream appears to show Rogers logging into the 8chan account of Q. The Patriot Soapbox feed quickly cuts out after the login attempt.
Sorry, leg cramp, Rogers says before the feed reappears seconds later.
Users in the associated chatroom begin to wonder if Rogers had accidentally revealed his identity as Q. How did you post as Q?
One user wrote.
In another livestreamed video, Rogers begins to analyze a supposed Q post on his livestream program when his co-host points out that the post in question doesn't actually appear on Q's feed and was authored anonymously.
Roger's explanation, that Q must have forgotten to sign in before posting, was criticized as extremely unlikely by people familiar with the message boards, as it would require knowledge of the posting to pick it out among hundreds of other anonymous ones.
Wait, so what's happening here?
So basically, he's looking at a post and saying, Q wrote this, and then his co-host is looking at the post and saying, well, that's not signed Q, it's just an anonymous post.
And he's like, oh, uh, yeah, I knew, or I'm claiming it's a Q post because, you know, he accidentally didn't log in.
So him claiming that it was a Q-Post might have been, or might not have been, a symbol of this.
Anyways, that's about the proof that they have.
There's a lot of claims and anger around these people.
I think they've all been banned from Reddit since.
It's a bit of a messy one, but it's at least interesting to follow the money.
And to say who was profiting early days.
Right.
Because, you know, there is a probability that profit tends to, you know, be where, you know...
Except for the fact that there is no central sort of Q marketplace.
Like, it's mostly, like, people on Zazzle and shit, like, going on their computers and being like, Q. Like, I'm with Q. But it's not that.
These people were YouTube and livestream celebrities, and because they read Q posts and became the first bakers, as they call them in the Q community, they were earning money from that.
They had people contributing so that they would continue to do their quote-unquote research, right?
I see.
So I wonder how much money they make, because I saw a video recently where somebody had like, you know, a couple million views, and it, you know, translated to like 350 bucks.
Yeah, but that's not where they get their money.
They get their money from donations.
Oh, so like PayPal and Patreon?
Yeah, they all have that.
So, we can move on from this, but essentially this is NBC's attempt to look at the first few conversations and who profited at the beginning.
To me, there's no concrete proof, but it is an interesting documentation of early days.
Of early days.
And what happened around that drama.
Yeah, it's interesting.
So basically, to sum up, NBC essentially traced it back to... A conversation.
Yeah, a conversation with a couple of 4chan member boards basically saying, like, let's take certain aspects of these other theories and sort of glom them all into one.
Well, they're saying that there was a field of different Anons, and at the beginning, no one really claimed QAnon was interesting.
Right, it was the FBI, the HLI, all these different, yeah.
Exactly, and that these people coalesced around one, and decided, potentially, that they knew who controlled it or whatever, but either way, they coalesced around it and decided, if we cover this more intensively, we'll get more views, we'll be able to get momentum going.
And who knows?
Maybe these guys, like, thought they did know.
I mean, maybe they knew?
Maybe they thought they knew?
I mean... Either way, they're now pariahs in the community, and everyone's fighting over whether or not they're real or fake, and there's infinite threads around Diaz, specifically, where the comments is just a... Of course, because something like this, you know, I mean, I'm guilty of it, too.
Like, you know, I think it's... I find it so exciting and fascinating that if it turns out that it's like, oh, a couple, like, dudes in their parents' basements or whatever, like, It's still an interesting phenomenon.
Yeah, it's an interesting phenomenon for sure, but I can see why people... Q almost has a divine sort of energy around him in these communities, and I think that when you bring him down to Earth, Yeah.
And he's just a fucking other guy like, you know, that's kind of like on his computer, like, you know, conglomerating like these different chans.
I think that that's very, like, disappointing to people.
It sort of pulls the magic out of it in a lot of ways, and it forces them to be like, oh, this could all be a LARP.
And like you said earlier, you know, Broken Clock is right, you know, a couple times a day, but it's like, You know, I mean, I still think for people that that's, like, really hard, that they're like, oh, but it's so specific and, you know, how did he finger, you know, this guy and this guy?
Like, I think that, of course, it makes sense that they would never want to even entertain the idea that this is just some, you know, average schmuck.
Of course not.
And like we discussed in the past, you know, finding meaning, finding community is also
very important for people.
And we live in a post-information age.
Like we're just floating in this bizarre flat sea of information with nothing connecting
to anything else.
And you know, you have Elon Musk smoking blunts with Joe Rogan and killing his company's stock
and you know, and Azalea Banks like shitposting about him.
The world is really all mixed up.
So yeah, moving on from that, we've discussed now a kind of mainstream, more or less left
wing, although I would really stop at calling NBC and CNN left wing since they're completely
corporate owned.
But anyways, let's take a look at the other side.
The other side, the alt-right, has had a very contentious relationship with Q. Many figures in the alt-right, including Jack Posobiec and Alex Jones, as we discussed, are kind of on the firing end of the stick at this point with Q. I know, which is fascinating, because you think that these guys would be the champions.
The way I see it is like there's a bunch of grifters and they're all kind of vying for a population, right?
Right.
But because the population can't really be controlled, because it's a kind of Frankenstein, uh, you know, once it's alive, it'll turn on you maybe.
Yeah.
So anyways, Jack Posobiec, uh, classic right-wing, uh, guy, alt-right specifically.
Guy who got busted, I believe, uh, with a profile on Tinder.
Um, even though he has a wife.
Oh, God forbid.
Oh, saucy.
He cheats.
Jack Posobiec has also tried to debunk Q, and on September 5th of 2018, he claimed on the One American News Show, a conservative cable news television channel, that Q was created by two users named Microchip and Dreamcatcher.
Okay, yes, I'm familiar with this theory.
So, this theory is amazing because, first of all, Microchip and Dreamcatcher are the names of, like, I believe, hackers in, like, the 90s movie, Hackers.
Yeah, in, like, Hackers.
It straight up sounds so funny.
Yeah, it sounds like Matrix 2.
So Posobiec writes, I thought back to a conversation I'd had—is that too
generous?
I thought back to a—I'm just kidding, I'm kidding.
I thought back to a conversation I'd had months before with a pro-Trump Twitter troll
who goes by the name Dreamcatcher. Also a great novel by Stephen King, if I might add.
I'm kidding, it's not very good.
Dreamcatcher had been around during the 2016 election and was a constant source of memes and ideas for new and original pro-Trump content.
Pro Trump content.
But perhaps more importantly for our purposes, Dreamcatcher was close to Microchip.
Microchip gained infamy for his effectiveness in creating trending topics on Twitter through high bot networks and Twitter's numerous suspensions of him.
He has been profiled in several mainstream publications and credited with having much more effect on the 2016 election and social media than any so-called Russian bot interference.
Months before, Dreamcatcher had told me about an op He was planning with microchip that would plant bits and pieces of information on 4chan and act like it was coming from a high-level source inside the administration or the Intel community.
At the time, he'd asked if I wanted to be a part of it, and I declined.
Microchip, who now posts on Gab, which by the way is a great refuge for the alt-right and fascists, under his original profile and regularly denounces the QAnon movement's transition from online form community into a full-blown cult.
Again, this reeks to me of that kind of Frankenstein thing of like, shit, we can't control them.
They no longer like us.
This sucks!
Like, they rile people up, and then they're pissed that someone else's story is being read instead of theirs.
Well, yeah, because of the couple, you know, if it is a coincidence, you know, see, the people took this away from them and attributed it to something much bigger than them, as opposed to... Something mysterious, yeah.
So, continuing, here's another excerpt from the article.
Posobiec writes, Q was always meant to mirror an Infowars slash Wikileaks narrative,
with the key difference being that they would pretend Q was actually a high-level government
source with inside knowledge about varied hot-button topics with which the audience
was already familiar. Here's another excerpt from the article. According to the logs,
they tracks up the... So that's Posobiec and the awful editing on this article.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
They tracks up with the microchip group coming up from the plans for Q.
In August 2017.
Let me say that in a way that makes sense.
According to the logs, they track Microchip and his group coming up with the plans for Q in August of 2017.
Remember, Q appeared in November of 2017.
Yeah, that was kind of the center of this whole Posobiec thing, is that they're revealing these chat logs that then prove something.
Which, by the way, obviously you can fake all of those.
Oh yeah, totally.
They then appear to have put the plan on hold when their Antifa petition took off soon after.
Fantastic.
By the time that they had run out of steam in October, they came back to the FBI anon plan, tweaking it this time to be a member of military intelligence.
They saw it as a way to take the offensive in the wake of Unite the Right and bring together the online Trump movement, which was now fractured in their view.
They brought together elements of WikiLeaks, information drops, Pizzagate, pedophile elites, and Infowars, deep state threats to Trump, and wove them together in a way that would seem interesting as a source to the online community.
Again, this is Posobiec writing.
So he continues in a different part of the article.
Microchip and his cohorts dropped off on queue posts fairly early on.
A new crew caught on to the op.
This crew brought the queue postings first from 4chan onto a new board controlled by themselves on the message board 8chan.
Jesus, man, take a fucking...
Writing.
Lesson.
God.
Damn.
Sentence structure.
Geez.
And there's nobody to edit him, clearly.
Oh, poor guy.
I will edit you.
No, I won't.
They began to introduce the aspect of trip codes and changing trip codes to validate the cube persona.
Then they decided to find more user-friendly group by founding Reddit pages such as CBTS, Calm Before the Storm, and The Great Awakening, of which I lurk.
Um, along the way, many people came and went from the group posting as QAnon.
This crew has been named and reported on many times before here, so instead of going through all the expensive repor- Expensive?
Does he mean extensive?
I don't know, man.
It either cost a lot or was long.
Or it was long.
I will make, both of which make sense, man.
No hate.
I will make a few summary notes.
The people currently making the most money off of Q appear to be the Patriot Soapbox Group.
So, same guys that we mentioned earlier.
Okay.
Numerous times their online user Pampletanon, or he wrote Pampletanon, which is so great, dude.
Sounds like a pamper's brand.
Pamplet.
Pamplet.
Kid shit his pants?
Here, have a pamplet.
So their online user Pampletonon has revealed himself to have access to Q's tripcode password.
So that was what we talked about earlier.
Right.
And has even accidentally posted as Q while logged in on 8chan on live streams.
He also once, embarrassingly, was caught claiming a post was from Q that did not contain the actual tripcode validation.
Not that hard to figure out how he knew about the post when no one else did.
He recently set up an LLC out of his parents' house to take in more donations from Q followers.
So this is still Posobiec writing, keep in mind.
There are others in the QAnon movement such as the user Praying Medic who fashions themselves instead as spiritual cue guides and mix Christian theology with cue posts and the ongoing 8chan narrative.
On his Patreon page, where he currently hosts 492 Patreons, Praying Medic claims that QAnon appears to him in his dreams.
And only those who pay extra to him on Patreon can receive his exclusive QD codes.
Now that's fucking crazy.
Yeah, and he finished this part of the article on with, this is the current state of QAnon online.
I mean, well, yeah, when you read this, it's like, Jesus, this sounds fucking so lame.
Keep in mind that this is a selective hit job by Posobiec, so I wouldn't trust him,
you know, worth a stick's throw.
Right.
So it's, you know, this infighting to me is just fascinating.
So Posobiec is on record as calling Q a LARP, or live action role-playing game.
Meanwhile, Q is claiming this whole narrative about him is complete bullshit.
Right.
Oh, go ahead.
I believe his take on the whole thing is that people like Poseidic are actually themselves part of the deep state and have been compromised by CIA.
Yeah, we'll get into that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, enter Alex Jones, our favorite freshly banned Twitter user who finally got banned after years of harassing the parents of dead children Because he yelled at the head of Twitter, Jack.
At Jack.
Go check him out if you like just the kind of softest form of fascism you can find online.
Yeah, well, and you won't be able to check him out because he's banned.
Jack?
No.
I'm talking about Jack.
Jack is, has, Jack the guy, Jack Dorsey.
Oh, Jack Dorsey.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he's always banning people who argue with fascists and call them cocks or whatever, and then he, like, lets the fascists proliferate.
And until now, like, Alex Jones was not banned on his platform, and then finally Alex Jones showed up at one of his hearings, his Congressional Committee hearing, and was screaming at him, photographed screaming at him, and then he was banned that evening.
That makes sense.
You know, you win some, you lose some, baby.
Jack claims that he does not do the bans himself, but I think at this point we can safely assume that if nobody was, quote-unquote, triggered by the parents of dead children being harassed, and then suddenly he's caught yelling at the head of the company and then he's banned, I think we can assume there's some form of connection there.
Absolutely.
By the way, Jack Dorsey looks like a horror movie cemetery attendant.
He's incredibly creepy at this point.
Yeah, he's like a modern-day embalmer.
I'd fuck the hell out of him.
So, enter Alex Jones.
The first time Q spoke about Alex Jones was on May 12, 2018 in response to an anonymous quote.
So the anonymous quote said, We've all been blinded for too long.
Alex Jones is not alt-media.
He is a traitor.
He makes us all look crazy.
Fuck him.
Q responds.
Time to move on.
Big week ahead!
With an exclamation point.
And then post a link to insiderfoxnews.com.
Alex Jones performance artist attorney says Texas child custody case.
This was a link to a claim that Alex Jones made when he was losing the custody of his children that he was not in fact actually claiming anything he said was right, but that he was a performance artist.
By the way, he lost custody of his kids anyways.
And so Q here is saying... Like, look at this fraud.
Look, he's a performance artist.
He literally claims it himself in court.
So then on September 5th, in reaction to the Posobiec piece, Q claims that Alex Jones Associates, clearly referring to Posobiec because he's answering a video where Posobiec's in, are the ones attacking Q. So he's saying Alex Jones and Posobiec are working together, and that Alex Jones is backed by the Mossad, the Israeli secret service.
Can you imagine?
I mean, this kind of doesn't track for me.
Unless the dude is an amazing actor.
Let me paint you a picture really quick.
Paint me a picture.
Alex Jones.
He's 21.
He's 22.
He looks a little older.
He's 22, he looks a little bit older.
He looks a little bit worse for wear.
He's got a heart problem.
He looks like a pile of roast beef.
He goes, he goes on a, um, oh fuck, what do they call it?
I had to do one when I was like 16.
Oh, like the birthright thing?
Yeah, he goes on birthright, okay?
He goes on birthright.
Is he Jewish?
Jones actually can be a Jewish name.
You heard it here first, guys.
This is why I'm on the podcast, by the way.
Julian has all the smarts, and I've got the imagination.
He goes on Birthright, and He falls so in love with Israel that he decides to enlist in the army.
Or maybe he gets recruited.
A friend of mine... They refuse him based on his height.
A friend of mine, I cannot say his name, this is absolutely 100% true.
This very thing happened.
He went on birthright, he fell in love with, he found his, I don't know, he reconnected with his Judaism, and he actually joined the Israeli army.
And because he was white, and because he spoke English, they immediately put him into an intelligence operation.
So, maybe, maybe Jones goes to Israel, gets recruited by the thing, he speaks English, he's an incredible performance artist, you know, he's been doing theater forever, you know, weird shit, you know, just a really great character actor, good physicality, and they say, you know what, you're gonna be fucking perfect.
He gets recruited by Mossad, And then next week I'll tell you how Mossad sort of inserts him back into American culture, builds him the platform of Infowars.
Oh, they definitely inserted him into the asshole of America, and he's been up there just absolutely devastating the lower tract of America ever since.
It's so funny, Hank, because I...
It's funny.
Have you ever listened to Joe Rogan talk about Alex Jones?
He's like, oh, he's a good guy.
You guys would get along.
He's a very passionate guy.
He's not a bad guy.
Joe Rogan's an absolute moron.
Remember when Joe Rogan was on Fear Factor?
I don't care.
Anyways, you can edit that out.
That was boring.
Not my story, but the Joe Rogan shit.
Cool.
So in response to this Posobiec video, Q responds.
Ask yourself a simple logic question.
Excuse me.
Ask yourself a simple logical question.
Why are the majority of Q attacks by pro-MAGA supporters coming from AJ, Alex Jones.
And then in the kill box he writes, MOS backed.
Which has been confirmed as Mossad.
Now he's Mossad-backed, meaning they could be funding him.
Who knows?
And, or, and, slash, or, Alex Jones known associates.
Clearly referring to Posobiec.
Right.
Yeah, because there's a picture of Posobiec right above him looking like a turd.
Yeah, that's what he responds to it.
Why are we a threat to them?
Why not simply publish an original picture, plus or minus one, two, three, sex, to establish credibility?
What do you think he means by sex?
Seconds, yeah.
He means like, why would you not post a picture within a few seconds of posting as Q, I think he means.
Okay, right.
Which I guess would prove something?
I don't...
So another Anon posted in reaction to this.
was this done in the past? We knew this type of quote unquote attack was coming. Predictable,
fake news, attacks will only intensify. Cue.
So another Anon posted in reaction to this, their business module, instead of model, is
based on a deep state existence.
No deep state, no A.J.
Alex Jones.
Some people don't care who wins or loses as long as they're making money.
So this cracks me up because it's like, you're almost there, buds.
You're almost there.
You're almost at the truth.
You almost figured out that people like Alex Jones can only exist in reaction to something.
In this case, the quote-unquote deep state.
Yes.
Push it a little further and you're going to get to something really revealing.
Yeah.
But yeah, not quite there.
It doesn't quite make it.
Anyways, a few weeks ago, Alex Jones called on his followers to grab their battle rifles.
So this is, sorry, we have to, I have to, because it's my writing actually, so we're not like reading it.
Oh, go.
So yeah, so a few weeks ago, Alex Jones asked his followers to grab their quote unquote battle rifles to attack the media.
Which got him suspended.
So a lot of people, I mean, Twitter is certainly arguing that that was like the prelude to his current ban, which I don't believe, just because I saw that picture with Alex Jones and Jack Dorsey.
Then on the 6th of September, he went to Jack Dorsey's congressional hearing.
He's the founder of Twitter, obviously, and hollered a bit at him.
He got him and InfoWars permanently banned from Twitter.
This was after Jack refused to ban Alex Jones for years despite the InfoWars host's persistent harassment of the parents who lost children in the Sandy Hook school shooting, which he claims were made up as a part of a false flag operation.
So, that's Alex Jones for ya.
So then Q made this really interesting post.
So the Drudge Report, which is a kind of right-wing magazine, posted, you know, breaking Twitter bans Alex Jones permanently after ambush on Jack Dorsey.
And then in response, Q wrote, There's a lot more to this than you realize.
Think collective attacks versus Q. Q. So that's about it for the infighting.
It's kind of a boring Q response.
It's not one of his best.
Q response. That's the thing is like it's hard when like the entire community is kind of like accusing each other of
stuff and kind of falling all over each other because at the end of the day when you start an information campaign
based on an anonymous source it's all up to interpretation.
That's why they have the bakers.
That's why they have all these, like, chans, you know, just constantly discussing stuff.
And everyone has a different vision of what Q means and different selective texts of Q that they're like, these are the ones, right?
Not to mention we don't know if during that 4-chan to 8-chan shift there was really a change of the guard.
So we really just don't know.
Another theory that I think is quite interesting is the idea that potentially Q is a Russian psychological operation to divide us all, which I found incredibly boring.
You can look into it if you want.
I mean, it's basically just based on the idea that this profits the Russians, which to me kind of falls in line with this general idea that Russia is responsible for America's insanity.
Um, it doesn't really fit for me, just because I know that America has a long history of love for conspiracy theories.
Right.
Uh, they always have, and probably always will.
And, you know, to kind of be like, well, you know, it's the Russians, it just seems a little facile.
Yeah, I mean, the more, look, I mean, especially after like, looking and disseminating some of this stuff, if, you know,
if, if, if some of this is true, if some of this is true, what you actually have is a really interesting situation
where this LARP somehow stumbled and who knows, I've always sort of, I've always sort of had the idea that they have
access, they're able to hack the, you know, mainstream media, or they're able
to hack journalists or whatever, so they can see stories a little bit before they come
out, which, which could explain some of the stuff that they've quote unquote gotten, gotten
right. But, but I think that, I think that if some of this that we're talking about is
true, this infighting, that it is kind of these guys that are jockeying for position
and they, they sort of glommed onto this other thing and invented Q themself, that it's not
a Trump insider. It's not a military intel.
What I find fascinating is that they got really lucky and that there were actual sort of, you know, probably just process crimes committed on the FBI that sort of really Does make it look like that, you know, that the Justice Department and DOJ was sort of like weaponized, like against Donald Trump's campaign and stuff.
So what's, that's I think the dopest thing about this conspiracy theory is that, is that there are little pieces of it because that's really, I mean, I've said it from the beginning of this podcast.
That's what I'm interested in.
I'm, I'm, I'm of the idea of the opinion that The government has always always been this corrupt and it just took Trump winning and them being sore losers and him being a sore winner to sort of kind of like let it sort of like bubble to the surface or whatever.
But I mean man if these guys if it is a LARP these guys are fucking laughing all the way to the bank.
So, you know, I think the word LARP was used by Posobiec, but I think it's kind of reductive, because either way what you have here is, at the very least, a kind of guerrilla psychological operation.
Yeah, I don't mean to undercut it.
At the very least, you know, you have people banding together to disseminate something whether it's for their profit or for
partisan purposes uh... but
you know the people that are being uh... accused of putting this stuff together whether it's
by pasovia karen bc
uh... are definitely people who had an agenda they want a trump elected they want trump uh...
to continue to be credible right they're all kind of even pasovia k was like
what these guys are like maga guys or whatever
So it's funny to see the alt-right triple over itself because it wants to look punk.
At the end of the day, what the alt-right offers young people currently is that they're punk.
They don't give a fuck.
They're not going to be politically correct.
They're going to say the wrong thing.
They're going to be fascist if they want to.
And in a way, when you're young and kind of hopeless and you're not being constricted off into some war and you're not finding a job that pays much, You need somewhere to put all that excess cum.
And the way that these people, you know, are kind of pushing information out into the mainstream, it just makes sense to me because the alt-right is kind of the most exciting place to be.
It's also why I think the arrival of Chapo Trap House into the general community is interesting, because it gives an alternative for some of these people who are going to radicalize.
To have a kind of politically incorrect version of what we're seeing here on the left.
People who don't necessarily think in terms of black and white, but more like shades of gray.
Yeah.
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