July 27, 2021 - Dennis Prager Show
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| Yes, indeed, y'all. | |
| Dr. Sebastian Rushworth is a Swedish doctor written extensively about COVID. Very, very, very important book. | |
| And it is available at DennisPrager.com or at SebastianRushworth.com. | |
| And it is published this year in Stockholm. | |
| COVID, Why Most of What You Know is Wrong. | |
| And it is vindicating of everything that you have heard on this program for the last year and a half. | |
| We're talking about the Swedish response and why you feel that was right and the rest of the world was wrong. | |
| So continue. | |
| So I think... | |
| Sweden really just followed what the WHO had agreed was the correct way to handle the pandemic before COVID hit. | |
| And I think what happened, personally, I think it has a lot to do with random chance. | |
| I think it has to do with the fact that the pandemic started in China. | |
| This is just my personal speculation and my... | |
| We're trying to make sense of what happened, but the Chinese authorities made this big show of doing harsh lockdowns. | |
| They were welding doors shut, welding people into apartment buildings. | |
| You saw trucks driving around spraying disinfectant over everything, and they kind of put on this whole show. | |
| That made this seem like a very severe pandemic. | |
| And then a month or so later, they said, look, COVID's gone. | |
| There isn't a single case here in Wuhan anymore. | |
| We've gotten rid of it. | |
| And I think the rest of the world saw this and panicked and saw that China was claiming that they were doing amazing things. | |
| And people in the West demanded that their political leaders do the same thing. | |
| And then when politicians and governments started doing these things, they got scared and they thought, wow, they're locking down. | |
| This must be really bad. | |
| And they started demanding even harsher lockdowns. | |
| And I think we kind of ended up in this positive feedback loop where the populace was demanding harsher and harsher measures, and the politicians were giving harsher and harsher measures. | |
| And I think, I mean, Sweden isn't immune. | |
| and the Swedish media have been demanding harsh lockdowns since the beginning. | |
| I think the main difference with Sweden is that I think it's partly that the decisions were being made by the big decisions were being made by career epidemiologists. | |
| The politicians weren't really involved, at least during the first wave in the decisions The decisions were being made by epidemiologists. | |
| And I think in Sweden there's also a tradition of respect for the Constitution. | |
| And so while governments in a lot of other countries were running roughshod over there, God, I hope everybody heard every word you said. | |
| You have no idea how often I praised Sweden in the last year, last year and a half. | |
| I'll get back to that. | |
| I just want to understand something that I'm not clear about. | |
| What the Chinese did with the lockdown... | |
| The severe lockdown, which gave the world an example of what to follow. | |
| was that a show or were they doing it because they believed it would work? | |
| So, well, I mean, it's pure speculation on my part. | |
| I can't know what they were thinking, but it was clear early on that this pandemic was I mean, it's a bad flu, but it's not worse than that. | |
| So from my perspective, what they were doing was more putting on a show than seriously trying to stop the pandemic, because I think they knew what they were dealing with from the beginning. | |
| So you think they were putting on the show so that the rest of the world would emulate them, would copy them? | |
| I don't think they were. | |
| I don't think the goal was necessarily for the rest of the world to emulate it. | |
| I think it might just have been intended for the internal Chinese audience to see how strong and powerful the Chinese government is and how... | |
| Because, I mean, remember the Chinese were kind of... | |
| The Chinese government was... | |
| Their initial response was to pretend like COVID didn't exist. | |
| And then I think it kind of went viral on social media in China and they felt, okay, we need to have a different approach because this isn't something we can just knock down. | |
| And then they went with this alternate strategy of putting on this big Hollywood movie-style show. | |
| So I think it was intended as a... | |
| My guess would be that it was primarily intended as a show of strength for the Chinese populace. | |
| But then the rest of the world saw what they were doing and freaked out. | |
| That's just my guess, though. | |
| I mean, that could be completely wrong. | |
| It makes a lot of sense, what you're saying. | |
| I want to get back to Sweden. | |
| I followed Sweden intensely. | |
| I don't read Swedish, but much can be translated, and much is in English. | |
| I knew that the Swedish media were angry beyond words. | |
| Plus, many Swedish doctors were condemning the decisions of your leading epidemiologist. | |
| So, which comes first, the chicken or the egg? | |
| That's my next question for Dr. Sebastian Rushworth, a Swedish truth-telling doctor whose work I have been reading all year. |
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