Dennis Prager Show - Dr. Sebastian Rushworth: Why Most of What You Know About Covid is WRONG Aired: 2021-07-27 Duration: 07:14 === Why Sweden Differed (06:52) === [00:00:00] Yes, indeed, y'all. [00:00:04] Dr. Sebastian Rushworth is a Swedish doctor written extensively about COVID. Very, very, very important book. [00:00:15] And it is available at DennisPrager.com or at SebastianRushworth.com. [00:00:24] And it is published this year in Stockholm. [00:00:27] COVID, Why Most of What You Know is Wrong. [00:00:30] And it is vindicating of everything that you have heard on this program for the last year and a half. [00:00:36] We're talking about the Swedish response and why you feel that was right and the rest of the world was wrong. [00:00:47] So continue. [00:00:49] So I think... [00:00:52] Sweden really just followed what the WHO had agreed was the correct way to handle the pandemic before COVID hit. [00:01:02] And I think what happened, personally, I think it has a lot to do with random chance. [00:01:11] I think it has to do with the fact that the pandemic started in China. [00:01:16] This is just my personal speculation and my... [00:01:21] We're trying to make sense of what happened, but the Chinese authorities made this big show of doing harsh lockdowns. [00:01:31] They were welding doors shut, welding people into apartment buildings. [00:01:36] You saw trucks driving around spraying disinfectant over everything, and they kind of put on this whole show. [00:01:45] That made this seem like a very severe pandemic. [00:01:49] And then a month or so later, they said, look, COVID's gone. [00:01:56] There isn't a single case here in Wuhan anymore. [00:01:59] We've gotten rid of it. [00:02:02] And I think the rest of the world saw this and panicked and saw that China was claiming that they were doing amazing things. [00:02:17] And people in the West demanded that their political leaders do the same thing. [00:02:23] And then when politicians and governments started doing these things, they got scared and they thought, wow, they're locking down. [00:02:33] This must be really bad. [00:02:34] And they started demanding even harsher lockdowns. [00:02:38] And I think we kind of ended up in this positive feedback loop where the populace was demanding harsher and harsher measures, and the politicians were giving harsher and harsher measures. [00:02:53] And I think, I mean, Sweden isn't immune. [00:02:56] and the Swedish media have been demanding harsh lockdowns since the beginning. [00:03:01] I think the main difference with Sweden is that I think it's partly that the decisions were being made by the big decisions were being made by career epidemiologists. [00:03:17] The politicians weren't really involved, at least during the first wave in the decisions The decisions were being made by epidemiologists. [00:03:27] And I think in Sweden there's also a tradition of respect for the Constitution. [00:03:35] And so while governments in a lot of other countries were running roughshod over there, God, I hope everybody heard every word you said. [00:03:55] You have no idea how often I praised Sweden in the last year, last year and a half. [00:04:00] I'll get back to that. [00:04:02] I just want to understand something that I'm not clear about. [00:04:07] What the Chinese did with the lockdown... [00:04:11] The severe lockdown, which gave the world an example of what to follow. [00:04:16] was that a show or were they doing it because they believed it would work? [00:04:23] So, well, I mean, it's pure speculation on my part. [00:04:32] I can't know what they were thinking, but it was clear early on that this pandemic was I mean, it's a bad flu, but it's not worse than that. [00:04:48] So from my perspective, what they were doing was more putting on a show than seriously trying to stop the pandemic, because I think they knew what they were dealing with from the beginning. [00:05:07] So you think they were putting on the show so that the rest of the world would emulate them, would copy them? [00:05:13] I don't think they were. [00:05:14] I don't think the goal was necessarily for the rest of the world to emulate it. [00:05:19] I think it might just have been intended for the internal Chinese audience to see how strong and powerful the Chinese government is and how... [00:05:29] Because, I mean, remember the Chinese were kind of... [00:05:32] The Chinese government was... [00:05:35] Their initial response was to pretend like COVID didn't exist. [00:05:39] And then I think it kind of went viral on social media in China and they felt, okay, we need to have a different approach because this isn't something we can just knock down. [00:05:55] And then they went with this alternate strategy of putting on this big Hollywood movie-style show. [00:06:04] So I think it was intended as a... [00:06:09] My guess would be that it was primarily intended as a show of strength for the Chinese populace. [00:06:16] But then the rest of the world saw what they were doing and freaked out. [00:06:21] That's just my guess, though. [00:06:23] I mean, that could be completely wrong. [00:06:25] It makes a lot of sense, what you're saying. [00:06:28] I want to get back to Sweden. [00:06:32] I followed Sweden intensely. [00:06:34] I don't read Swedish, but much can be translated, and much is in English. === Which Comes First? (00:36) === [00:06:39] I knew that the Swedish media were angry beyond words. [00:06:45] Plus, many Swedish doctors were condemning the decisions of your leading epidemiologist. [00:06:54] So, which comes first, the chicken or the egg? [00:07:03] That's my next question for Dr. Sebastian Rushworth, a Swedish truth-telling doctor whose work I have been reading all year.