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Socially Ostracized
00:03:44
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| Well, you shouldn't even use blacklisted. | |
| That alone would render you fired. | |
| Just the term itself, right? | |
| Blacklisted is a negative, and it has the word black in it. | |
| But you would be ostracized socially, clearly. | |
| Are you ostracized socially now, or do they have no clue as to how you think? | |
| They have absolutely no clue. | |
| I mean, I keep my head down. | |
| So you are truly what I call a Murano. | |
| You're like the Jews in medieval Spain who acted Catholic and practiced Judaism at home. | |
| You are this modern Murano. | |
| Well, if it helps, I'm an art teacher, so it's even rarer than that. | |
| That's right. | |
| In your profession. | |
| So, are you married? | |
| I am. | |
| Does your wife share your values? | |
| And she's a teacher too. | |
| What percentage of teachers do you think are in your position? | |
| You know, it's hard to say because I really do think there's a lot of groupthink. | |
| On this side of the river where I live, I do think that there's a lot of people who just kind of keep their heads down or, you know, it's just not something that they talk about at work. | |
| Today alone, there were two or three people who had mentioned Trump. | |
| Ugh, it's Trump and Trump. | |
| It's like, I don't feel safe to have any conversation there that's actually meaningful. | |
| And if I just don't nod my head and agree, I do feel like I'll be personally ostracized. | |
| Well, you have to, and I'm not telling you what to do. | |
| It's not right for me to. | |
| Because I don't have the same situation as you. | |
| I'm hated by many people, but I don't have a threat to my work. | |
| At a given point, you just have to figure out what you can do without being fired and then ask, can I handle the ostracization and hate? | |
| Because you will find allies that you didn't know you had. | |
| I just want you to know that they do exist. | |
| I have friends in the San Francisco Symphony Orchestra, the last orchestra in the country you would imagine it would be okay to state that you're a conservative. | |
| And they have been bold about it. | |
| Their colleagues don't like their views, but they're doing okay. | |
| It's something you have to weigh. | |
| I will just say this. | |
| I can handle being hated. | |
| I'm not sure I can handle being fired because I want you to have an income. | |
| So if I were him, if I were he to be actually correct grammatically, I would speak out. | |
| In as non-emotional, non-adjectival, fact-based way as possible, and then see what happens. | |
| But I'm not telling him to do that. | |
| I'm only saying what I think I would do, but I certainly would not want to get fired. | |