Fort Worth Playboy, a dating coach with 100K Twitter followers, debunks "game" culture, advising men to minimize online interactions and focus on daily in-person approaches—60% of matches stem from apps but should only be used for leads. He dismisses legal fears over rejection, frames women’s past relationships as common (e.g., 20% prefer older men outright), and critiques conservative media like Allie Beth Stuckey for unrealistic moralizing. Success hinges on treating women like girlfriends early, setting boundaries, and prioritizing weekend dates, with an 80-90% coaching effectiveness rate despite clients often dropping out. [Automatically generated summary]
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.
Thank you guys so much for tuning in today.
So I wanted to talk a little bit about solutions because a lot of people say that I'm black pilled and a doomer, which I think is a little bit rude.
It's a little bit much.
But, you know, I've decided to kind of do a new series where I bring on different guests from Twitter or just, you know, other platforms that I see that really are offering men solutions in the space.
So we're going to get into today's guest, but that's what I'll say to start.
But first of all, I wanted to say thank you to the donations to our divorce documentary.
So as you guys know, I am trying to make a divorce documentary.
I tried to put it on last year, but then I got demonetized for two years, all because I compared women.
Actually, I'm not going to say it again because that's what got me in trouble in the first place.
But I want to say thank you to the donors in the last day to the divorce documentary.
The GoFundMe link is in the description.
Michael, and we got a $1,000 donation from Anonymous.
So thank you very much.
Nathan, Boone, thank you guys so much for donating.
We're at $54,218 raised.
We're really trying to get to $100,000.
So anyways, thank you guys so much.
Okay, so back to what I was saying with men that offer solutions.
So as you guys know, I as a woman cannot coach men or instruct men on how to get laid.
Look, it's just not something I ever really want to go into.
It's not something I know how to do.
I provide cultural commentary on this channel, but I really enjoy men that I know are out in the field practicing and offering guys real solutions, not just, you know, never have a sexless marriage, follow the Bible.
It doesn't really work, you know, unfortunately.
And I just love it when I'm on Twitter and I see guys that are giving, like, there's something about, I could just tell when a guy is really in the field and really working with clients because they just tell stories in a different way that's so specific instead of like talking in the abstract.
So anyways, I have been following Fort Worth Playboy on Twitter for a while.
And he has a big following on Twitter.
And he is a dating and relationship consultant that works.
So we're going to bring him up onto the show.
Welcome, Fort Worth Playboy.
Hi, how are you?
Thank you so much for joining me.
Thank you.
Thank you for inviting me.
So tell me, how did you get into consulting men?
Like where did this start?
Well, in the beginning, I, you know, I've been through a divorce and probably six months to a year after the divorce, I got into personal improvement, you know, from owning a small business.
And then that led to Chateau Artiste, which was a blog about game.
And I pretty much studied that blog like an hour.
I'm pretty good at, what would you say, routine.
So for about two years, every evening, about for an hour, I started studying this blog, reading every article and applying it to, you know, dating and meeting women.
And it just worked.
And then my girlfriend, now fiancé, she had a Twitter handle.
And I thought, well, I want to talk about this to other people.
And that's when I moved into that.
And also, you know, I'm in fitness and we do personal training, but at a certain point, it's really hard on your body.
So you're always looking for something over time that you can like not physically be in front of clients, you know?
So that's how I ended up coaching and consulting clients.
Wow.
And you have 100,000 followers on Twitter.
I actually participated in the intro and I was like, oh, shoot, I forgot to Google how many followers he has.
I think it's like 96, 97.
Yeah.
And for a couple, for a couple of years, I was kind of stagnated there.
Like when Biden was president, they weren't allowing many, many people in our world to get a lot of followers, as you've experienced.
Yeah.
So how many men have you coached at this point?
Like, how long have you been doing it?
Oh, hundreds.
We have a small group.
And, you know, I sell books and products and probably two or three a day go out.
And then they report back and say, hey, I actually applied this and it works.
And I think that's what's the biggest surprise is that game works, you know, and you've experienced it yourself.
Game works principally and it makes you more attractive, basically.
It's game, the definition of game is learn charisma.
So guys that are kind of struggling, they improve their personality, if there's a better definition.
So when you have a guy that comes in and let's say he's pretty socially awkward, about how long does it take for him to get pretty good with women or at game, just improve his social skills?
Because I think there's a lot of people who think that stuff can't really be improved, that you're kind of, you just got to be yourself.
Yeah, which would leave a lot of people in bad shape.
No, it can, it's like anything else.
You can make improvements and it depends on the individual.
And let's say, you know, a guy reaches out to me.
You know, we always kind of look at the very basics.
You know, is he overweight?
If so, we get to get his weight down.
How does he dress?
What is his hygiene?
Believe it or not, these are the basics.
Usually guys that reach out to me are somewhat more advanced.
But when you deal with very basic, when they say, hey, I cannot seem to get laid, we look at hygiene, how are they dressing, get the weight down.
A lot of this helps with their confidence.
And then usually it takes about six months, you know, and which is really fast if you think about it.
Cause usually like for fitness, you can start seeing improvement in 12 weeks.
And it's about six months, you know, to really be confident with game.
But it's, it's faster than building a business.
What are the biggest mistakes that men make when it comes to game?
Like, what do you, what do you think?
It's interesting because really 99% of what I do is tell people what not to do.
Okay.
You know, and what we say is more, less is more.
Guys tend to text too much.
They tend to use too many words.
They tend to stay on the app too long before moving her off and get her phone number and get her in front of him because girls are good online because they can just block him, but men are better in person.
Like you have to actually be in the room with the guy to kind of get a real feel for him.
Whereas guys are two-dimensional.
We'll work off of a picture.
Girls need to actually meet you and men are stronger in person.
So usually it's getting guys to stop trying to like, when we say, you know, online dating, they actually think they're supposed to date the girl online.
They don't realize it.
It's just lead generation, get her in front of you and then, you know, be attractive, which can be, can be learned.
Have you seen this increase in long-distance relationships?
I feel like every other person I'm talking to is in a long distance relationship.
Have you seen that?
I have not, but I tend to, I tend to, what would you say, dissuade people if I can.
You know, I mean, there's very specific.
Let's say, you know, your boyfriend's in medical school.
It has a definitive end date and you have a plan to meet him in three years and go forward with your relationship.
That's a separate issue.
But the long distance relationship, it's really tough.
It's really not a relationship, you know, your day-to-day stuff.
I don't think it's a good idea.
It's, there's people that have been successful, make no mistake, but it's really the minority.
It's, it really puts you in a bad position.
Yeah.
And for every one successful outcome, there's like 10.
Exactly.
Yes.
Yes.
You only hear about the good ones.
You say that about men getting out of the friend zone, too.
I see you put that all the time on Twitter that for every one guy that made his way out of the friend zone, there's 10 that don't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It is true.
It's true.
I mean, your time, let's say like a long-term relationship, you're a long-distance relationship or you're in the friend zone.
Your time would be better invested in meeting new girls while this other thing plays out in the background.
You know, like the friend zone girl, she might break up with a boyfriend a couple of years down the road and the timing is better, but you should be seeing other women during that period.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
So, so when you're asking a guy to like build his dating life from like the beginning, like he meets with you, do you recommend they go in person online?
Like, where do you recommend guys meet women nowadays?
It really, it really comes down to the individual.
I mean, that's why it's coaching.
You know what I mean?
It's kind of like the principles are universal, but the application is individual.
So, you know, if they're in the city, we can get them out.
If they have a buddy they can go out with, we get them out.
But we use multi-step lead generation, which is all it is, you know, and if a guy is open to online, because what, 60% come from there right now as far as matches and people get married every day off of online dating.
So I never just shit on it.
You know, I think it's a terrible idea.
But if the guy's open to it, we can get him matches while he's also saying hi to every girl he, every attractive woman he sees every day.
Over time, that builds up.
You have to actually, you know, it's like I say, you know, say hi to every attractive person or woman you see every day.
Pretty soon you start seeing more attractive women.
Yeah.
You know, and that's how it works.
I mean, we use multiple lead generation depending on the person that's in front of me.
What do you say to the guys that say they're afraid to approach women because they don't want to get in trouble?
Like I've seen that kind of growing group.
Yeah, go ahead.
You know, and this is what, this is my question problem.
This is, you know, because I get that every once in a while.
I say, have you or anyone you personally know ever been arrested and charged with a crime for speaking to a woman?
And I haven't had anybody positively identify themselves yet.
You know, I haven't seen it.
And I've, and I'm always still looking for evidence of people getting in trouble for speaking to somebody.
And I haven't seen it.
I mean, there's guys that'll get shot down.
I mean, there's girls that may be having a bad day and they're kind of rude to the guy and he takes it bad.
But as far as like truly getting in trouble for speaking to a girl in public, they're either going to ignore you or, you know, say, hey, I got a boyfriend and or they're just going to walk right past you.
You know, so I think it's overblown.
Yeah, well, because I haven't seen that like legal trouble.
I've just seen women like blasting men, you know, with their phones and stuff.
Have you seen that at all or no?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You'll see girls like, yeah, usually, you know, at least they'll say, you know, this guy hit on me when I went to Starbucks and he's a younger guy.
And I'm, you know, let's say a girl that's like 35 or 40.
And she'll say, but, you know, I give him points for trying.
You know, that's that's what I tend to see.
Yeah.
Is, you know, he had the guts, the balls to approach.
But I haven't, I don't, I don't get that much feedback as far as the hardcore negative.
Do you know what?
It's just that Facebook page that I've heard people in real life.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the that's the number one.
I know a few guys that have been put on there.
And you know what's crazy?
It's never the players.
Like all the guys I know, all the guys I know that go through like a lot of women a year.
Yeah.
They're not on those pages.
And I'll look and see, but it's like the guys that are actually pretty nice.
That kind of sucks.
That's very energy.
Yeah.
You get your information probably for different sources than I can.
And I tend to like stay in this one little world.
Yeah.
You know, and you see, you see a lot of things.
I see a lot of this one, this one world.
Sorry.
What do you mean by this?
This one world?
Well, everything, you know, you kind of like, you know, I was trying to kind of get a grasp of what you dealt with as far as like media.
And I kind of consider it like gender relations.
It's very large.
It's a university.
It's a very large, you know, group.
I'm very tactical.
We're about becoming more attractive, you know, helping men become more attractive and move women from complete stranger to naked and in his bed.
Everybody wins.
So where can men find young, attractive, not fat women?
College campuses.
Okay.
Okay.
Gyms.
I mean, seriously, if you want to meet, you know, and again, there's gym game, which is long game.
It's a long game.
But generally, you cannot find a better place than a college campus because people are single.
They're relatively younger and fitter.
And they're open to suggestion.
That being said, you will not see me like cruising a college campus.
No.
Just, I don't want anything misconstrued.
But, you know, for the right group of guys up to like, you know, late 20s, it's, it's probably ideal.
Okay.
And what are you seeing in terms of age gaps like in 2025?
Do you find that like most women in college are open to men 10, 20 years older?
Okay, that's a good question.
The spread, this is, and this is what I've stuck with over time.
20% of girls are like, no thanks, no way, never.
60% are under the right circumstances.
And if their friends or family wouldn't find out, you know, it's like situational.
And 20% just prefer older men and they know they prefer older men.
Okay.
You know, that's what I've seen consistently over time.
And usually the, the, you know, we talked about the 10-year age gap being kind of like the starting place for being a gap.
Anything less than that's kind of normal.
But at 10 years and up, you, you have a bit of an age gap where I think people tend to do better.
And a lot of marriages that you see, you'll say, hey, how long have you guys been?
You know, what's your spread between your ages?
And they'll say 10 years, 10, 10 or 15 years.
Why do you think that is?
Like, why not 20 years or, you know, the guys, I think 20 may, no, this is.
Yeah, yeah, you're close enough for familiarity.
Yeah.
You actually kind of like, you know, still look, you know, in the same age range.
But he's had 10 years, maybe 12 to get ahead, you know, and she's, she's still fresh and young and, you know, moving up in the world.
It seems to be the sweet spot.
There's, it's not too much and not too little.
Yeah.
No, I found the same thing for me personally.
I think 10 years is great.
That's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
It seems to work that.
Everybody's, yeah, and I'm in the same position.
Yeah.
It's 10 years.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you find that about 20% of women really like, so how can a guy tell the difference between a woman who's dating an older guy because she likes them or it's just transactional?
I can't.
Okay.
I mean, you, you really, I mean, there's certain times and it depends on environment, you know, you know, is it a sugar daddy?
That sort of thing.
Yeah.
I think those tend to stay behind closed doors.
He's not going to take her out.
Okay.
On the top.
There's no like ironclad rules here, but generally you can't really tell, you know, and I've been out and about where you're seeing that gap, but it's very difficult because a lot of times the girl may just enjoy, you know, she benefits from it, his him having money, but she also likes him because she could choose anyone.
There's younger men with money.
Yeah.
You know, she chose him.
Yeah, especially when they're like 21, they can date anybody.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there's, there's younger guys, you know, 25 that have money, but she may choose that stability and she knows where he's at most of the time.
You know, that there's other things going on in the background.
Yeah.
So I wanted to talk about a couple concepts I've seen from you on the timeline.
And this one I've actually stolen from you.
I haven't given you credit.
So I'll say I will give you credit officially, but you said that women are designed to be passed around.
Yeah, it's funny.
I was like, God, I hope we don't do anything controversial.
I was like, oh my God, right away.
I think it's one of your best sayings, to be honest, because when you said it, it actually like something clicked in me.
We kind of are, aren't we?
We just, we do not.
Yeah.
And like they say, it's not, it's not, she's not yours.
It's just your turn.
Yeah.
And it's, it's a play on that.
But again, I mean, most girls at some point, you know, they start having sex at 15, 16, 17, and they're going to be with a number of men over time.
It doesn't, you know, this is all very situational, but they really were, you really are adaptable.
You know, and I think like Roloff said, like warbrides, like the French, like when the Germans came in, they adapted to the German soldiers being in their town.
They dated the Germans.
And then when the Germans left, they went back to the Frenchmen.
You know, they're designed to survive.
Does that make sense?
No, it totally makes sense.
It just upsets guys a lot.
That's what I was about to say.
Why do you think this reality is so difficult for men to accept?
Because I love your stuff on Twitter because you're always reminding people this is normal.
This is not.
Yeah.
Well, I know it is normal.
You know, I mean, that's that's what I'm dealing with.
You know, I don't want people to kind of freak out.
And it's hard for them to digest in the first place, especially for younger guys, you know, like under 30, under 35, you know, that jealousy of, you know, is very hardwired.
It can be extinguished over time, but you know, I'm sure that there's an evolutionary like purpose for it, like certainty of paternity, which is a big deal.
But depending on the guy, some guys don't really care either way, and they don't care about a girl's history.
And there's more of those than you'll hear because they're not in this, they don't, they never say anything, it doesn't cross their mind.
Yeah.
I didn't think those guys existed, but you meet them and you're like, oh my God, he really does not care.
They do not care.
And I think really the vast majority of guys are like, they're not asking, you know.
Yeah.
They don't, it doesn't even cross their mind.
They're just like happy to have a girl that will like have sex with them and take care of the kids.
You know, they're happy.
Yeah.
Most guys are pretty simple.
It's not, it doesn't become complicated.
Sometimes we do make it complicated.
But in general, that's what you're going to see is the younger guys.
And I think a study came out.
The younger guys that have fewer partners tend to be more concerned about how many partners the girls has had.
And as he increases the number of women he's had sex with, it kind of dissipates over time.
Yeah.
And that's why I noticed the body count conversation.
It's mostly men complaining that don't get laid.
That like that's what they're going to have to accept.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's that's the main complaint because it's not that men with high like women want the men with the super high body counts.
So the women, the men, like in general, so the men that women are interested in anyways don't care as much.
I think you had a picture of that one girl that dated all the celebrities and you said, you said, are they worried about her body count?
No, no, no.
Yeah.
And I hate to say it because I do understand where the men are coming from.
You know, I'm not, I'm not trying to belittle that, but it's just what I see with the people that are actually out there dating in the game.
It's not as big of a factor as even I initially thought, you know, because I try to convey to guys, I go, I say, whatever, whatever you decide you can deal with, that's what's important.
Yeah.
You know, if you want a virgin, you can have a virgin.
You're going to have to work and you're going to have to find her.
You may have to leave the country.
But generally, you know, you have to decide what's right for you because there's a whole spectrum.
Yeah.
And the other thing they don't talk about is how weird some of these virgin girls are.
Oh, and they and they think it's cute, weird.
I think in concept, they're like, oh, I don't mind if she's weird.
I'm like, oh, you haven't met these church girls.
I'm like, you are not.
No, no, if a girl has a virginity at 25, there's there's going to be other issues.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Bunny, my, you know, my, my fiancé, she's the one that kind of clued me into some of this stuff because she gave me a lot.
She gives me a lot of insight into the female mind that I would never have had by myself.
You know, she's like a virgin at 25 or something often.
And it's kind of like they want a virgin who's also a porn star in bed.
We, you know, you're, you're asking for two different things.
Well, and it's usually women that won't give up control.
Yeah.
Like they're really, they're really controlling and they can't imagine like giving a guy that leverage, you know.
Yeah.
And I think I think it's hard on, you know, the small amount of like Christian women that, you know, I've been privy to, it's very hard for them to shift gears because for like 18 or 19 years, they've been told sex is bad.
And now they go through the ceremony, they're married, and they're supposed to say sex is, they're supposed to start enjoying it all of a sudden.
It's, there's like whiplash.
Yeah.
So they're everybody's kind of like put at a disadvantage.
And I never thought about it until I kind of read that and, you know, found out, you know, and heard those stories.
No, I know a guy that happened to.
He waited until marriage and then his wife wouldn't sleep with him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, there's like, oh no, no.
Yeah.
You're supposed to go from zero to a hundred and it's just not natural.
That's asking a lot of anyone.
Yeah.
I want to show this clip.
I think I mentioned we were going to watch.
Yeah.
And do you know why it was so interesting?
Because your commentary on this, I don't think, okay.
So if you guys don't know, I don't watch sports, so I don't know what sport he plays, but this is a rich athlete that makes a lot of money.
Soccer.
Okay.
And so this is his girlfriend, fiancé.
I don't know, the girl he's involved with.
And this is a clip that went viral of her saying this.
Let's show it.
And so he was the one that I did like first.
And then when I saw you, I changed my view to you.
And then you had the very nice song.
I do think it's faith, but you don't.
I asked you this question before.
I asked, like, I think this is fight first to me.
Then you just like, you think?
All right, so.
Yeah.
So she's essentially saying that she liked his friend first.
And guys got worked up.
Guys got really mad, but I'm like, and I had the same thought as you that I thought that's maybe she shouldn't say that publicly.
That's kind of embarrassing, but I think it's kind of normal.
Like, at least where I'm from.
I mean, because, okay, let me let me read your response really quick.
You said, wait, hold on.
Oh, no.
Okay.
Share this tab instead.
Okay.
Girls were designed to be passed around.
Men at his level are going to meet girls already in their social circle, pre-approved girls and groupies.
Yeah.
Girls aren't leaving that social circle, fail with one guy and she goes to the next.
This is normal.
Because another thing they don't take into account is the guys at this level are going to see her.
Like if she didn't crash out during a breakup with the first guy, then they'll assume she's like stable.
So it's like less risky.
It's what I've seen anyway.
This guy is literally athletic royalty in his country.
He's been a celebrity since he's walking.
The last thing he's thinking about is her.
And don't confuse American morality and sexual weirdness with the more relaxed, casual nature of the Netherlands and Europe.
They don't give an F. God.
And that's, that's it in a nutshell.
I mean, there's a lot going on there.
Yeah.
And, you know, the very first is these girls, it's kind of like being in a band.
Groupies are available to everyone in the band.
Yeah.
She's not just with the drummer.
She's also with the guitarist, you know, and then she may end up marrying the lead singer.
And that's normal.
And there's certain groups, and especially like with professional athletes, there's girls that marry one and then they divorce and they marry the other, you know, tied in from the same team.
And that's normal.
And also in wealthier circles.
And that's where I got the, where the girls don't leave.
I mean, those girls, they're in a rarefied atmosphere.
They're not leaving.
You know, it's hard to get into those groups in the first place.
And a lot of times they may have went to school with these guys, or there's a reason for them to like all have common friends.
And it's a very small country where they're from.
So when she breaks up with one, she's already got her eyes on the other.
You know, she knows where she's going.
They're not leaving that group.
And if you had a good experience, there's a referral, you know what I mean?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
These are girls that have been around him usually for years.
Yeah.
And the best, and the best examples is they tend to in wealthier circles of athletes and that have grown up as professional athletes.
They all know each other and they've all been around each other forever.
So, you know, it's, it's like when somebody, when two, two couples break up and one of the husbands marries the new ex-wife of the couple they're friends with.
You know, there's there's familiarity there.
I know people that have literally swapped like husband and wife.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And this is normal.
I mean, and all she said was, you know, I liked him and then I saw you and I liked you more.
Yeah.
You know, that's, that's the bottom line.
And where they're from, they, those two live together and they have a child together that's like two years old.
And where they're from, there's a lot more cohabitation and family planning.
Then down the road, they get married.
Here in the U.S., we're all about dating, engagement, wedding, house, babies.
That's the girl blueprint.
So they follow that in the U.S.
And there, they have, they live together, then they have kids together.
Then down the road, they get married.
So effectively, they're married for their, for their culture.
What do you think about when guys say that this is disgusting?
Women like shouldn't be, you know, I got one right there.
That's gross.
And not that against, I respect guys' right to feel this way, but I'm like, I just think we're kind of whores, you know.
I don't know.
I mean, I leave it, you know, I leave it up to them.
It's, you know, if, yeah, if it doesn't work for you, that's fine, you know, and that's, that's understandable.
And it's, it's a visceral response and it's emotional too.
And nor should they try to extinguish it.
I mean, I'm not saying either is right or wrong.
It's just there's, it's normal.
She, you know, she liked this other guy.
She likes this guy enough to have his children, you know.
And it's like a different way of speaking when you try to take away morality from it, but it's very hard because there's a lot of like Christian conservatives and they just can't like like men, you know, I understand women should be virgins, but we're not.
So it's like, what do you got?
Your boyfriend asked that pretty consistently.
Were you a virgin when you got married?
It shuts everybody down.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
He does.
It's pretty funny.
You mentioned in these circles also, so you've seen the phenomenon of affluent fives, which is where wealthy men pick fives over more attractive women.
Yes.
Mentally, most guys think I get rich.
I'm going to get a beautiful woman.
Well, most men, especially if it's coming from older money or generational money, like your parents had money and you're the second generation or third or fourth.
And I discovered this basically one day it hit me.
I was at my gym and at about 9, 9.30, the local affluent wives have dropped off the kids and they come into the gym and they're all fit.
They're all very social, very great wives, great, great women, great people and fit.
But facially, none of them are classically pretty.
Yeah.
There are five.
You know, I mean, they may even be somewhat unattractive facially, but they're slim and in shape and healthy.
And their personalities are fantastic.
And that's who affluent men, especially if they come from like family businesses, tend to marry.
Like the president marrying like the models, it's more of an anomaly.
Yeah.
And when you like look at an affluent neighborhood, I'm not sure where you grew up.
I mean, but like I live in an affluent neighborhood simply because that's where the business is.
You know, it works.
It's great.
But you're going to see this.
You know, it's not a knockout beautiful women everywhere, maybe in California, but not in like Minneapolis and the wealthier enclaves, you know, across the U.S. Do you think it's a risk mitigation for them, or do you think it's just because they don't have the time or something else?
It's going to be, it's going to be a number of factors working together.
A lot of times the parents have already kind of like identified who they would prefer that he married.
Like if he brings a girl home his freshman year of college, they'll be like, she's nice.
But if you talk to Jennifer, she's in town, you know, and that's how they make it happen.
That's so true.
And they keep inviting Jennifer to every party, you know.
So that's how it happens.
They already have an idea.
And men, you know, because there's a certain social, you know what?
I was thinking that men don't really care as much about social class, but the women in their lives do.
You're not going to have some old, like some ratchet girl coming back, even if she's hot.
We're not doing it.
And also, in those social groups, a very beautiful woman upsets the equilibrium.
That's so true.
I didn't even think about that.
Yeah.
I mean, there's a lot of different things going.
And like you said, it's, what would you say?
Risk mitigation to a certain extent, you know, but what I've seen, I mean, these, these affluent fives are fantastic moms, fantastic wives, you know, and the classy example, and I, and people get really upset.
It's like Jacqueline Onassis, you know, Kennedy Onassis, the first lady.
Yeah.
She's not classically pretty in the face, but a classy woman.
You know, she's an affluent five.
Or Jeff Bezos' first wife, not a classically pretty woman, but, you know, she got the job done.
Would you put his last wife as a five?
I don't know what to call her.
His current wife.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, his current wife.
Actually, explain that to me because I call, I give her mid of the year because that was, that was great.
She's, she's, she was an entertainment reporter.
So she's already in those circles.
She'd been married to a celebrity already.
Yeah.
And had dated a famous football player.
She's not leaving that circle.
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah.
Well, what would make a guy like Bezos?
Because, you know, she just kind of looks like a walking red flag.
You know what I mean?
You know, I'm just.
She knows she knows.
I think she should get some type of award for closing the deal.
She knows exactly what she's doing.
She could have chose any man and she chose him.
Yeah.
And she's pursued him and closed the deal.
I'm sure they have a lot of fun.
Yeah, I gave her the greatest mid of all time.
She earned that.
Whatever she's done, she earned it.
And she probably knows men and how to attract men better than any other woman on earth right now.
Yeah, no, seriously.
Who's the other one?
There's like one or two other ones I did shows on where I just said.
Oh, Taylor Swift's another one.
Mid of the year.
But doesn't she kind of like, are you saying because she attracted this football player?
So, yeah, when average-looking women, even past their prime, land like a really high-value guy, I give them mid of the year.
That's pretty funny.
Yeah.
So it's like where you just, you know, because from a look standpoint, Taylor Swift is like a 5'6, I'd say.
Yeah.
She's mid-30s.
So I'm like, you know, she's competing with 20-year-olds for this NFL.
This pro football player.
Yeah.
And she won mid of the year.
And it's the same thing with the Bezos' wife, you know.
Yeah.
I did give Bezos' wife the crown because, you know, she's a bit older, two baby daddies.
I mean, that's a lot of a little rough around the edges.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm like, mid of the year.
Is there anyone you'd nominate for mid of the year?
No, I didn't ever think about Taylor being in there.
That's pretty funny.
That's pretty funny.
That's pretty good.
And she's just, yeah, she's, she's slim, tall, kind of awkward, you know, you know, great entertainer, makes a lot of people happy.
I think it's pretty funny.
Yeah, you said, it actually reminds me of something that you said.
I used to have this idea that women, if they made poor life choices, they would have consequences.
I really thought they would.
But it turns out when women are hot enough, they have no consequences.
None.
Attractive women will always land on their feet.
Okay.
So what made you think of that?
Tell me.
Time watching women over what 40 or 50 years.
Okay.
The only wild card is alcoholism.
Yeah.
Drug abuse.
Those tend to like derail.
Even an unwanted pregnancy will not derail an attractive woman.
Men marry single moms, divorced women every day.
You know, you get a lot of pushback on Twitter and maybe in your world, you see it a little bit.
But in general, you know, once a guy has kids himself, you don't really think about her having kids.
It's actually an advantage, you know, because she understands, you know, your weekends are taken up or you have to be here.
So it's, it's different dynamics.
Oh, actually, could you explain that more?
So some guys want women with kids.
Yeah, it's not, it's going to be a non-issue.
Once you have kids, you're usually trying to date a woman that doesn't have kids.
She's not going to understand like these little balls of energy and you have to be, you know, you're actually taking them to Disneyland.
You've got to be somewhere else.
You're not available to her like a guy without kids would be.
And she doesn't understand their needs.
Yeah, no, that's really.
I know a guy that was looking for a single mother because he wanted her to stay home.
And he thought he felt like a woman with no kids wouldn't stay home because she'd want to work or do like go to events, do whatever.
Yeah.
So he like married a single mom and then just like retired her immediately.
Everybody wins.
Yeah.
And I say that, you know, I mean, I can understand a guy that does not have children not wanting, you know, I understand that because there's, there's, you know, you're, there's a lot of things going on there in the background.
But once you have kids, it really becomes a non-issue.
Not for everyone.
I know guys with kids that they just won't do it, but in general, they understand your challenges.
So when women, when men start dating women in your like system or program, and they actually, you know, are dating multiple women, have a rotation, that kind of thing.
What are things that you advise men to screen for?
Well, if the girl's in the rotation, you know, it's a little bit looser.
Does that make sense?
I mean, you know, if you want to screen probably before you even start dating, most girls don't make it through.
One of the things that happens is when you date a lot of women, you know, and like I say, for beginners, it takes about three dates to close a deal.
For intermediate, it takes two.
And then for a guy who's advanced, you're going to sleep with a girl on the first night, or you're probably not going to sleep with her at all.
And it's not because your game is so much better.
It's because you're better at picking women that fit you.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
So it's, you're not wasting time with women that don't even like you.
Exactly.
You can pick out what women don't like you.
So not that you're that much more charming, but if, you know, if a girl likes a certain type, you find the women that actually like that type.
Yeah.
And I call it, you have yes girls, maybe girls, and no girls.
And you just pick more yes girls.
Yeah.
You know, and once you've been around yes girls who are like, hey, you want to meet up for a drink?
Yes.
How about eight o'clock at this bar?
Yes.
Hey, you want to go to my place?
Yes.
You know, I mean, after a while, you figure out who the yes girls are.
And it just makes life easier for everyone.
I forgot.
You had a tweet about telling women off.
There's two types of guys when they do get the no, or she's rude or fungi.
That there's some guys that tell the women off and there's some guys that are just chill.
Could you expand on that?
Well, okay.
Still talking about or no.
Yeah, in general, I think I did like a video on this just recently.
Yeah.
In general, a girl's girls are going to ghost.
Let's say you go out with her one time and then her ex-boyfriend shows back up on her doorstep the next morning and he wants another shot.
It's usually an ex.
And so she ghosts you.
You may not hear from her for a couple of weeks, a month or two, long enough for this thing to run its course and fall apart again.
She reaches back out to you.
You just come back in, start sleeping together.
She will nine times out of 10 go, hey, I'm really sorry about ghosting you, but my ex-husband showed back up.
We got two kids and I had to give it a shot and it just didn't work out.
But the other group of guys will be like, no, I refuse to talk to her.
You know, or I'm not taking her back or she'll just do it again.
Or like you said, they'll tell her off, you know, don't ever contact me again.
And those guys don't, they have the satisfaction of ghosting her or telling her off, but they're not getting late.
So you have to decide which one is important to you.
You know, and some guys just cannot deal, and I totally respect their decision.
They can't deal with a girl that leaves and comes back, leaves and comes back.
Even though, you know, if you're running a lot of women, that's going to be pretty normal.
Aren't wouldn't some guys say they don't want to be like a woman's second choice?
And if, like, you know, that's correct.
That's completely up to them.
Yeah.
The way I kind of see it is she doesn't know you that well yet.
So oh, yeah.
That's how she doesn't.
And I think they don't, they don't realize that.
If I have an emotional investment and like a history with something, like, obviously.
No, no.
And that's why I try to convey to these guys: when a girl does ghost you, you know, and it's 99% of the time it has nothing to do with you.
It's usually for a guy she's already invested in.
Yeah.
Because you are an unknown quantity.
You know, she doesn't know enough of it.
Even if she slept with you a couple of times, and she's definitely not going to keep you in her phone because if her ex-husband finds out she's been dating, he's gone again.
You know, so girls would rather just ghost than, you know, they don't like controversy or confrontation.
So they're gone.
And that's totally understandable.
And for guys like in my world, you know, if you're going to run a lot of women, you're going to run a rotation, they're going to see other men.
Yeah.
You're providing a service to a certain extent.
You have a purpose.
You know what I mean?
I just have to convey this to somebody so people understand.
You know, keep going.
Between her relationships, you're that guy.
You know, she's taking this guy.
She's kind of vetting him.
She's like, he's boyfriend material.
You're not.
Yeah.
So therefore, you're providing a service.
But what about a person?
What about the guys that are?
Because do you know what's crazy?
I think more men want serious relationships than women do.
That's just what I've seen.
I'm like, because that's very interesting.
That's the one thing that I get is a lot of guys, especially younger ones, they want a wife.
They want a girl.
They're like, I want to be the serious guy, you know.
Yes, but don't until they start getting Nephoo Nanny, then they're done.
They get laid once or twice.
They're like, oh, never mind.
Yeah, they're satisfied.
Oh, God, God.
Sorry.
Well, you got to remember, though, like, for a girl without a guy, she's kind of like a boat without a rudder.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, truly.
And y'all were built.
Y'all don't do well by yourselves.
Yeah, that's true.
Bad decisions.
Guys can go by themselves for long periods of time.
They can explore.
They can travel.
They can do all kinds of things without companionship.
But women don't do well for very long without a man in their life.
And they seem to be happier.
You know, do you know what it is now, though?
The problem I've seen, I don't know if you've seen this, is all the boyfriend stuff is kind of outsourced to beta male friends or like fathers, relatives, brothers.
Right.
Like, so all the stuff that a boyfriend or a husband would do.
And so then, you know, she just gets, you know, now she only needs the casual guy.
No, I've never, I haven't really seen that or put it together.
You know what I mean?
But it does make sense.
I've just seen that with like my youngest sister.
She's like around, she's like Gen Z.
And them and their friends, they just don't seem like interested in dating.
And everything seems to be delayed.
Like their ho phases seem to come like five years later than like millennial women and five years later than the people before.
You know what I mean?
That's interesting.
Have you seen that?
Or have you seen something else?
I don't know.
I've seen the delay.
Yeah.
In general, but I know, I know there's probably people that are like throwing, skewing the numbers, you know, the guys that are pretty active and the girls that are active earlier on.
Yeah.
But the ones that are inactive, they seem healthier about it than they used to be.
You know, people feel really awkward if they hadn't lost their virginity by a certain age or, you know, and now there's really no stigma to taking your time coming out of that.
Yeah.
But I don't, I don't think like with this, like where they're projecting like 50% of women will be unmarried and childless at 40, you know, three years.
It's going to take an awful lot in society to make that happen.
Because generally, 90% of people, men and women, will marry in their lifetime.
90%.
So what do you think is going to happen then?
You think people will just get married later and like have kids later?
Yeah.
It's just kind of like women having kids.
Like something, what, 86, 87% of women have children.
Even if you haven't had it at 30, that alarm goes off inside at about 32 to 35.
You know, and it's a very real thing.
You know, it's an urgency.
And so, yeah, wait till you're fit, wait till everybody kind of goes through this life cycle.
And I bet the numbers will come out to just where they're at.
It's delayed.
I just thought of a good question.
So, how many major heartbreaks do you think women go through before they find their the guy they want to marry?
Oh, God.
It's okay.
If you don't have a good, if you don't know, it's okay.
But I was just, I don't know, but usually we say, you know, when you say, hey, you know, how many partners have you had?
They always say three.
It's my high school boyfriend, my college boyfriend.
It is.
And then one serious guy after college.
Yeah.
And now I'm here.
You know, and that's the story.
I don't care.
Everything else is like, you know.
What would you tell guys to expect?
Like, do you just say, don't think about it?
Like, what do you enjoy the ride?
Probably.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because it's going to upset them.
Yeah.
There's a lot of doesn't count sex, one-night stands, travel.
It didn't last more than a couple of days.
He didn't last, you know, or, you know, there's so much.
I have a whole list of doesn't count sex, but the sex that counts according to women is those things that last two years or more in a committed, monogamous relationship.
And everything else doesn't count.
I agree.
Yeah, I know.
It's hardwired.
Pretty funny.
Yeah, which kind of goes back to one of your points that women are experts at keeping men they are sleeping with away from each other.
I always hear guys talk about, I hate to go into the men today, but they always say, oh, if she was cheating, I would know.
And I'm like, I don't know.
There's men that have fought that have raised kids that aren't theirs and have no idea.
That's true.
That's true.
And you have to look at it.
Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah.
I mean, when I convey that, generally, and this came up like when you meet a girl and she's attractive, there's a very good chance she's having sex with someone and you and maybe another guy.
And how do we know this?
Because I've been the other guy.
You know, when you're in a rotation and you ask any of these guys, they'll say, Yeah, I mean, she'd like put her boyfriend on mute and tell me, you know, or they come in, they're like, Where should I tell I'm at?
You know, he's looking for me.
So you're the other guy.
So you know that this stuff goes on.
They're experts because I would ask, I would say, do you think, you know, this potential boyfriend of yours has any idea?
And they're like, no, It's just not on their radar, and it's not even a hard deception, it's just they hide it.
Do you think this is something guys should like worry about, or no?
Absolutely nothing, it has nothing to do with you.
I mean, you can't stop it, yeah, it's just there, you just have to kind of know that way.
You're not shocked.
And I hate to say this, but it's kind of like the classic.
Sorry, go ahead, go ahead.
It's kind of like this classic saying: is assume she's a slut, you'll seldom be disappointed.
Yeah, and it really does take the edge off, you know, when you find out she like slept with your best friend.
You're like, Well, of course, she did.
So, you're not as shocked, and that's what I say.
Like, guys that are actually because I don't know if you'd consider yourself red, but I would consider you part of like, um, like guys that are in the red pill.
Would you agree or no?
Yeah, game is part of the red pill.
So, yeah, go ahead.
Game is, I'm sorry, red pill is strategic, it's very big.
Game is tactical, correct?
Yeah, it's application.
You guys are so pragmatic.
I love talking to you guys.
Like, the other day, I was in this.
Um, I was on this Twitter war because I see, I said, um, that corn corn has saved more marriages.
Uh, oh, I saw that, yeah.
And all these religious people are like, Well, he can't, and I'm like, Well, is that is cheating better?
And they're like, Well, don't do that.
And I'm like, Can he divorce?
They're like, No, and I'm like, Well, what's he gonna do?
Don't have sex ever.
I'm like, I don't, that's a tough sell, you know.
I don't know, man, that is a tough, tough road.
You're you're asking for it, but somebody has to ask the question, right?
Yeah, but I love talking to you guys because you guys are just so much more pragmatic.
You guys are just very like, these are whores.
So, just assume they're all whores, not all, but I mean, you know, most.
Yeah, it's it's it's probably likely, it's more than most guys, and that's okay.
I mean, I don't want guys, you know, losing their minds, and they will, yeah.
So, going back to the screening question, because I saw a tweet that said to screen to make sure she has a high sex drive or a good sex drive, and I was just curious if there's other things when guys have started dating they should screen for.
Um, like anything they should run away, you know, run away as fast as you can, anything that are green flags.
What do you have?
Yeah, I mean, the red flags, I mean, we we've made lists, which generally, you know, like an odd hair color, an unnatural hair color, septum piercings, heavy tattoos.
They are generally indicative of some type of mental trauma, you know, and things aren't going to go well.
That's they're bright, they're right in front of you.
Um, it's things like that.
Well, you have to know what you're getting involved with.
Does that make sense?
Well, it does.
I mean, that's that's but some guys are drawn to that.
They're like, I want trouble, you know, I want tattoos because it makes her seem more attainable.
Oh, I didn't realize that was the reasoning why, guys.
I know it caught me off guard too.
Somebody sent me down and explained it.
I was like, She's got a bear, she's got a belly, she's got tattoos, she looks like hell.
And they're like, Yeah, but she's attainable.
And I'm like, that makes sense.
And you, you mentioned also, men, you'd recommend men screen for women that have high sex drives because if women are bragging about being celibate, that's a bad sign.
Yeah, right.
I mean, You want your sex drives to match, yeah, you know, ideally.
And there's a lot of high sex drive guys in our world in high sex drive, they think it's high sex drive, but like Bunny says, just because she's like really excited in the first 12 weeks and you have sex three times in a weekend isn't high sex drive.
You know, you want to see high sex drive over long periods of time.
And there's, and a lot of sex drive is genetic.
Yeah, it's almost like being a gifted athlete.
They can recover quickly, they're multi-orgasmic, they have orgasm after orgasm after orgasm.
They do not get tired.
They don't have a lot of like they're able to sleep with a number of men.
It doesn't really affect them.
You know, there's group, there's women out there that can do that.
Some guys don't believe it, but they're there.
I believe it.
Yeah, they're fine.
I mean, literally, you won't know.
And there's, I mean, it's almost, it's a genetic predisposition and a healthy approach to sex and an openness to it.
And physically, they can keep up and do it.
And they also want to generally basically have sex every day.
No, do you know what?
It was, you're one of the few people I've seen talk about that, that women can bang a bunch of dudes and be fine because there's this idea that they'll be super broken after.
And the conservative guys eat that up.
That's why they keep running to the church, you know.
And I'm like, I interviewed Lily Phillips before she did all that stuff.
Do you know who that is?
Like, I do.
I do.
What do you mean, like before?
Like, what did she do before?
Oh, sorry.
She was just on OnlyFans, but before she did the 10th out, whatever, but you know, oh, okay.
Okay.
But I was like, I think she just, I talked to her for a bit and I didn't really get the sense she was broken.
I just think she really enjoys banging a lot of dudes.
I think this is her, I think it's her favorite hobby, you know.
There are girls that fly to, you know, Vegas and do the escort thing.
They enjoy sex.
It doesn't affect them.
Yeah.
You know, like it does.
And again, a lot of it's genetic.
You know, they enjoy, they truly, they physically enjoy it more than other women, you know, across the mean.
But again, you know, it depends on the person.
And like Bunny, and I asked Bunny about this too.
And she said a lot of times it's how the girl frames what she's looking for.
Let's say she goes through three horrible relationships that she wanted to get married and each of them crumbled in on itself.
She's probably going to be more impacted by that than a girl who just wanted to have fun and dated three guys for some time.
You know, she knew that it wouldn't come out and actually end in anything.
But if a girl has a mindset of like, I want this to be something significant and it goes to shit three times, she's going to be more affected.
Wow.
Do you know what?
I've never verbalized that, but that's a really good observation.
It's, and that's from a girl because I could, I wouldn't have wrapped myself up.
Yeah, because it's almost like the fun girls seem to get commitment, anyways, more to be honest.
What actually red-pilled me on the women not having consequences was I looked up all five of like five girls I knew in school that were just with everybody and all five were married with kids.
Absolutely.
And think about it too.
They're attractive enough to like attract men, even younger.
And they have good personalities and they tend to get what they want.
Yeah.
It works out for everyone.
So back to like kind of the system that you have for men that, you know, work with you.
You said she went through 6,000 men on her dating apps and she chose you to meet up with.
There's a good damn good chance she'll F you if you don't talk her out of it.
Well, these guys, I mean, just like the Fs, and I walked through like, you know, 50% were like height and weight, not what she was looking for.
And I kind of like broke it down to where it really comes down to even out of 6,000 men, there's just two of you.
Yeah.
You know, and when a girl goes all the, okay, you know, a girl getting prepped for a date, it takes a few hours.
She might leave work early.
She buys new shoes.
She puts on a dress.
She takes a shower, shaves everything, puts on a dress, does her hair, drives there, pays for parking, then walks in.
She's invested.
She's hoping you'll do well.
You know, she's hoping you'll talk her into going home with yourself.
You know, and these guys, they actually push back.
I'm like, and this guy had a great analogy.
He said, if a girl wants to buy a car and drives down to the dealership, she doesn't want, you know, the sales, she doesn't want the salesman to fail.
She wants to buy a car.
Yeah.
So when she comes out, she's already like next 5,000 people.
She's sitting down with you.
You're at the top of the list.
Well, what do you think when they say, oh, she's just trying to use me for food?
Or yeah.
Or I get that daily.
Drinks only.
Or if she shows up late, you know, let's say she shows up like super late.
She's just disrespectful.
Like, what do you think?
All women are late.
All women are going to be late.
Are you late?
Yeah.
Okay.
All women are late.
That's okay.
That's normal.
Drinks only.
No dinner.
No first date dinners.
That's a general game rule.
Drinks only because it's sexier.
It's in the evening.
You want to kind of stack the deck in your favor, you know.
So drinks only.
And you tend to screen.
You're not taking her to dinner.
You're not taking her.
And you're going to just go for a couple of drinks.
And you're going to maybe, if things go well, go to the next place.
And I think girls that will push for dinner, guys that know game, they'll just problem solved.
Again, you're never if you don't ever pay for dinner, then it's problem solved.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And if you say no, you get the girls that actually want to go out for a drink and meet a sexy man.
That's what you get.
So you have to be kind of like specific about what you're looking for.
But unfortunately, a lot of these guys, and I do ask, you know, have you ever, you know, felt like you've been used?
And they're like, no, no.
I think it's one of those like urban, urban myths, a lot of this stuff.
Kind of like, if I talk to this girl, I'm going to get arrested.
It's never happened.
Yeah.
It's only in your head.
And if you take this girl out, she's just using you.
It's never happened or it's happened.
There's certain where you'll see girls like on TikTok like date six men in one night.
Yeah.
But generally, if you have the basic rudimentary skills, you'll screen them out.
And a lot of women go on go on first dates, I would say.
Like if women date multiple men, I think it's just like first dates.
I don't see women really drawing it out that long.
So what?
It's like 50 bucks on drinks you lost.
Right, right.
And again, you could be screened.
You know, the more you do this, the better you screen to girls that are coming to meet you and have fun.
Okay.
So what are five practical things men can do like today to improve their dating life?
Oh, five.
You can give me three if you want.
I just, I think five starts.
Fresh breath.
Okay.
Clean fingernails.
These are things that actually kill guys.
Dirty hands and say hi to every woman you see.
That's true.
These are little things that if you don't take care of breath, breath will kill even the most handsome charismatic man.
If he has bad breath, it's going to go south.
So you can take care of breath, take care of basic hygiene, say hi to every girl you see and actually ask them out.
You'll be going out with a lot more women.
How would you tell men to ask women out?
Like, do you recommend just a simple approach or like lines?
Yeah.
Yes.
And again, I always get guys, they go, you know, how do I open this girl?
What did I say?
You can say anything.
I go, the last two or three girls you slept with, do you remember what you said to them the first time?
And they're like, no, it doesn't matter.
Yeah.
What matters is you spoke to them and then moved it forward.
That's, that's the ideal.
It's a little bit harder by text.
And again, a lot of this is like internal.
Guys will be like, I got, I need to ask her out.
I need to ask her out.
I need to ask her.
And then they'll like, not ask her out.
Yeah.
That's the bigger problem than how do you do it?
Well, because you're kind of pushing that guys have a system.
Oh, well, yeah.
I mean, it's, it's, let's say we get them off the app.
It's opener, two or three flirty banner back and forth.
Then, hey, I'm going here on this night at about eight o'clock.
Why don't you come with me?
You're already going.
Does she want to come with you?
She'll either say yes, great.
She'll say maybe, or, and maybe means I can't that night, but I can another night.
And you close that night, or she'll say no, and then you just drop it and never ask her out again.
It's very simple.
Does that make sense?
No, it makes perfect sense.
Yeah.
And you can do the same thing in person.
It's probably actually easier in person because at least you have the guts to do it.
It's surprising girls like will give you points for having balls.
Oh, we do.
We do.
We're for being bold.
No, we totally do because it's like, well, at least you have the balls to ask.
Yes.
Yeah.
And then I have a system like, you know, drinks, you bounce to another place that's nearby drinks.
You pitch, give her plausible deniability to come to your place.
And I do recommend like knowing your logistics and knowing where you're going to go.
So there's an entire book on like how to build your dating system.
So I actually do have systems.
Guys like systems and they like predictability.
And then you just pitch like, hey, you know, I own a midget.
Would you like to meet him?
Or, you know, would you like to see my art collection?
Anything non-sexual that will get her back to your place for sex because she needs plausible deniability.
A dog, right?
I mean, I'm not saying the biology.
Oh, yeah.
I know a guy with a dog.
Yes, that's correct.
Even if you don't have a dog, you can say, hey, would you like to meet my dog?
Because the dog's never going to come up.
That's funny.
You want to be my dog and there's no dog.
He didn't even have a dog.
You can have a stuffed animal that's a dog.
That is very funny.
Yes.
Yeah.
But I mean, anything will do.
I mean, and girls appreciate that.
It just, because you can't go, hey, let's go up and bang.
It's it's bad form, yeah.
What how many women do men tend to like in their rotation?
Like, what's what's the sweet spot?
Three, and is there doing too much with a girl you're seeing casually?
Like, if you want to communicate that a woman's casual or a woman's long-term, how often do you see them?
Well, we kind of like categorize them: we have girlfriend candidates candidates or fuck buddies or friends with benefits.
I always say prefer friends with benefits, girls don't like being called fuck buddies, it's bad form.
Um, but like with girlfriend candidates, you can like go to dinner, you can you know do things together socially because you're kind of screening her for becoming your girlfriend someday.
But like with true casual, you're just hanging out for sex.
You always have sex when you meet up, and we say once a week, it seems to be the sweet spot, just once a week.
She can be missed Tuesday, and every Tuesday you guys meet up and she can come straight over.
You guys can meet for drinks and then go back to your place.
But you don't do girl, she doesn't sleep over, there's no gifts, there's no nothing that you would normally do with like a girlfriend.
Yeah, and it's when guys do that that things get confusing and people get hurt.
I knew a girl in Milwaukee when I lived there who this guy had the second date introduced her to his whole family, but I guess that was his play.
Like he did like they knew there was like rotating women.
Oh, that is funny.
And I saw her like after like she found out this is just what he does later.
Yeah.
That is hilarious.
Yes.
Oh, my felt kind of bad.
I'm like, that is, that's gutsy.
That's very funny.
Yeah, I know.
Like he took them on like cruises on the like it was, I don't know how to describe it, but there's like those dinners that are like on the river.
I know exactly what you're talking about.
Yeah.
He would take them on the river and then with his mom, but he just wanted to get dinner with his mom once a week.
And so he would just like, oh, I'll just bring her.
And the mom that is funny.
But he had a system.
Should he had a system?
Yeah, that's true.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
So I forgot what we were talking about, but yeah, he did have a system.
Oh, the casual versus long-term.
Right.
Okay.
Casual, you have to remain, you know, you have to keep guardrails up.
Okay.
So it doesn't appear.
And like I said, no sleepovers, no gift giving.
No, she's this is how guys end up with a girlfriend.
Okay.
She's just a friend with benefits.
She comes over once a week.
They hook up.
She says, Hey, I have this event.
Will you go with me?
He says, Yeah, I'll go.
Well, they have a fucking blast.
And then pretty soon, he's got a girlfriend and all the other girls have to go away because they're already sexually compatible.
Then they go out and they're having fun and they get along and it's over.
So that's how they end up with a girlfriend because they treated her like a girlfriend.
Yeah.
You have to keep guardrails up.
You have to say no, you know, to the boyfriend, girlfriend stuff.
And she may truly just need a date, but it's not his role if he wants to remain where he's at.
Okay.
And how often do you recommend seeing a girl that you want to see more long term?
Usually, usually, like, if you're already still running a rotation, you're going to be able to, she's going to start butting these other girls out is what's going to happen.
Usually like two or three times a week, and she'll want a weekend spot.
Yeah.
That's what happens.
Yeah, that's girls start eating up your time.
They know what they're doing.
That's always what I say to women because occasionally I get DMs from women, and I say, I always say you can tell where you're at by how often he sees you.
If he doesn't see you on Saturdays, I got bad news.
That's that's very good.
Yeah, and even like hardcore players, they just don't go out with anyone on the weekends.
Yeah, they consider it like amateur night, you know, Tuesday and um, Monday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, they go out.
Yeah, every other week got bad news for you.
Once a month, I got even worse news for you.
You're at the bottom of the rotation.
That's pretty funny.
Um, so where is there anything you've seen in the past like few years that has like changed with technology?
Um, in terms of like, not just like dating apps, but like, is that the number one way your clients are meeting women?
Instagram, Twitter?
No, yeah, okay.
No, um, well, a lot of people do meet on Twitter, but none of my people, you know, it's all you know, guys reach out to me.
They either have a very specific girl they don't want to up, or they're looking for as much volume as possible, which is why we go to everything that they can actually handle lead-wise.
And online is usually your best spot.
Okay.
Does that make sense?
Because it's so vast.
Yeah.
You know, but it's not your only route for lead generation.
It's kind of like if you own a business, you're going to have multiple marketing polls in different pools.
So that's how you look at it.
You look at it as lead generation.
So, guys, we use whatever they're comfortable with as much as possible.
Usually, guys do reach out to me about 60%.
They have a specific girl.
They just don't want to screw it up.
Yeah.
Have you found when they don't want to screw it up with a woman?
Is it usually they don't want to screw up the date or like they're seeing a girl and they don't want her to ghost?
They have in the past, they know the principles.
They're players to a certain extent.
Yeah.
But they've kind of like fallen.
They and they do the same thing that normal guys do.
They start kind of smothering her.
Yeah.
And they literally run her off.
Yeah.
So they're like, please help me not smother this girlfriend of mine.
So we just draw them back a bit.
Less is more.
Yeah.
What is seeing her too much in your experience?
Like, when is it smothering?
You know, that's situational, Pearl.
Okay.
It really comes down because a lot of times, I guess it's when she doesn't initiate anything.
Oh, you know, girls that are interested in you will make things happen.
They'll show up on your doorstep.
They'll go, hey, let's go do this.
Or you want to come over and talk to my parents, you know.
But it's when you're doing all the initiating, you're probably doing too much.
All right.
If they have questions, I'll bring it up.
Advice for a BDSM type of relationship.
Man, it's not my specialty.
I don't know.
And it's, it's a true, you know, there's an entire world dedicated to it, but it's not mine.
Are your clients usually rich or average men?
I think it's Kews of Fluent.
I've noticed that the guys are even in their 20s are very, very well employed.
I mean, it's not cheap.
You know, I have books that are like 30 bucks.
It can help you a lot.
But as far as like clients, they tend to be pretty because these are guys that are like willing to pay for coaching to get what they it's kind of like personal training.
People that are very smart will hire a coach to get them where they want to be faster.
So that's, you know, that's who I, you know, what's funny is I do actually get a lot of like attorneys and doctors.
Okay.
I can see that because they probably work a lot.
So they don't really have time for women when they're younger.
It's true.
Yeah.
The attorneys seem to they have a lot of charisma.
They're able to write and speak.
And it's just they run into like tactical problems.
Do you think that money, um, like men have to have money in order to date?
Absolutely not.
No, there's, there's broke ass, broke bartenders, bodybuilders, skateboarders banging a rotation of like 20-year-old sevens and eights on the mattress on the floor.
It's absolutely unnecessary.
If anything, they do better.
That's what I think.
They're not thinking exactly.
They're not even thinking about it.
I've got guys, they love the mattress on the floor game because they go, God, when I was broke, I slayed.
And now they're wealthy and they, they're like, I hate this.
Yeah, because they got nothing to lose.
There's nothing like that.
I mean, they have nothing but their personality.
You know, so they've got to, but again, yes.
And that's what I try to convey to guys.
You don't have to have money to do any of this.
You know, you can, you can bang a girl in your car.
A mattress on the floor tends to do it, though.
So they want to know how long you casually dated before finding your now fiancé.
Maybe a couple years, maybe two or three years.
Maybe like seven.
Seven years.
I would tell her I said hi.
I love her.
I've listened to a lot of your videos with her.
Oh, good.
Pearl says hi.
That's funny.
That's funny.
So apparently seven years.
Okay.
I was in my 30s when I got married the first time.
And then I was divorced like late 40s.
What do you think about when men say they're going their own way or that no one should get married in this market?
What are your thoughts on that?
Yeah, the men going their own way.
I mean, they don't really contact me much.
And I used to see them more, you know, on Twitter.
I don't see him as much the last couple years as one guy said because I asked.
He said, well, they all went their own way.
I was like, that makes sense.
There's no fight.
Like, if you're going to be like, why do you?
No.
Yeah.
And then what was your second question, Pearl?
Well, that men shouldn't get married.
Man, that's a tough sell.
You know, I mean, like I said, 90% of men do get married eventually.
You know, the five, and five percent of that 10% are mentally or physically debilitated or they're so impoverished they can't afford to get married.
So five percent really decide against it, you know.
And they seem to do fine.
But in general, most men will eventually get married at some point.
And I don't, I don't discourage it because I know that most men will get married.
You know, I don't think, I don't think that the divorce laws are like as equitable.
Yeah.
You know, the state really does work for the moms from my experience, but everybody has their own experience, you know.
But the anti-marriage, I think it's not realistic to tell men don't get married because generally most are going to get married.
Yeah, most if anything, I see more men wanting to get married than women.
I can see that.
Maybe, maybe it's not, maybe, maybe it's not what you've seen, it's just what I've seen.
I think I see more men like wanting to get married, but just like they can't find a girl that's good enough quality, but they do want marriage, especially I've noticed once divorced guys seem to be like the most willing to jump back in 75% of men that are divorced, first time divorced, will be remarried within five years.
Yeah.
And it's like Bunny pointed out to me because you know, we'd be talking to some girl who's dating this guy that's like in his 40s.
And Bunny's saying, you know, how many times has he been divorced?
She'd be like, oh, like four or five times.
She goes, well, you guys are going to get married, you know, because he's a marrying guy.
Yeah.
He's the marrying kind.
So if a guy marries three or four times, he's going to get married five times.
Yeah.
They don't stop.
No.
You know, they, they, and for a lot of guys, you got to remember like they've been married and they get divorced.
It's their identity.
Yeah.
I'm a married dad.
I don't like being out here being a single weirdo.
You know, it's there's a social strata to a certain extent, but they like being married.
It's less to worry about in general.
Yeah.
So how does that reconcile with it's not, she's not yours, it's just your turn or there's plenty of there's well when you when you pass away and your widow, she usually remarries.
Yeah, that's true.
It really is.
I don't mean to be too morbid, but that's pretty much the explanation.
What do you think of open relationships?
They might give me random ones in the chat.
So just hopefully, but yeah, that's that's its own world.
I mean, people seem to find their own way with it, but it's it's its own world.
And it's not anything that people have reached out to me about managing.
Yeah.
It's really um, there's an area in Dallas.
I don't want to say where, but apparently, the like swingers is huge there.
It's like a pretty affluent.
I think if I said the area, you'd know it.
It usually, I think, yeah, I think it does tend to skew affluent.
I mean, there's some suburbs all around.
And again, you know, it's a world into itself.
Yeah.
Um, all right, guys, in the chat, if you have any questions for them, no, it's not Austin.
I'm not putting it in.
I can't, I can't let you guys know where I venture because I'm spelling up.
Um, if you guys have any other questions for them, um, put them in the chat now.
But otherwise, where can the people find you if they want to sign up for coaching?
Okay, you can reach me at Fort Worth Playboy, spelled all the way out, F-O-R-T-W-R-T-H playboy.com.
You can reach out for a consult there, opt in.
There's Fort Worthplayboy.gumroad for any of my products, anything from how to build a harem to asshole, you know, chicks love jerks, how to run an asshole game, how to build your dating system.
I think I got like 25 books in there.
Um, and then on Twitter, 25 books.
Wow, yeah, that's crazy.
Okay, cool, keep going.
Sorry, and then on x.com, I'm at fw playboyx.com.
Uh, where are the best places to meet women in the Dallas-Fort Worth area?
Your boyfriend would know.
In fact, I reached out to him one time when I had a guy coming into Dallas.
Okay, I reached out to Nuke to give me the best spots.
I don't, you got to realize they're like an hour, hour and a half away from that.
Yeah, it's we're not in the same town.
Uh, what's your success rate?
I think it's 90 percent.
I would say it's between 80 and 90 percent.
If I don't know that they were successful, it's because they dropped out or disappeared.
Okay, yeah.
Uh, well, guys, I really recommend signing up for his stuff for his coaching.
Um, it's very pragmatic, it's very real life applicable.
As you guys know, on this channel, um, we are about real life solutions, not how we wish the world would be or how it could be or should be.
This is how the world is, and I really like bringing on guys to help you navigate it.
So, if you like his stuff, check out his channel.
Thank you so much for coming on.
I appreciate it.
I've been a fan forever.
So, bro, thank you for the invite.
I appreciate it.
Um, and did you say your YouTube channel?
Um, hang on, Fort Worth Playboy on YouTube, F-O-R-T-W-R-O-R-T-H.
Cool.
Yeah, him and Bunny are pretty funny on there.
So, I've watched a lot of the videos.
So, he's a lot of fun.
And I appreciate your time and you get me out here.
Yeah, thanks so much.
All right, guys.
Well, thanks for coming on.
Did you guys like that?
I hope you had fun.
This is his Twitter, by the way, if you guys are curious.
I'm going to show you.
I've just been watching him forever on Twitter.
So, I'm going to start bringing on people.
So, tomorrow, I'm thinking, guys, I'm going to go through this war with Allie Beth Stuckey.
This is Twitter if you want Fort Worth Playboy.
Let me go to my profile.
I am going to go through this war with conservative media.
And I'm going to go into more depth into this tomorrow.
I'm going to do an earlier show because it is Friday.
But basically, Allie Beth Stuckey.
Oh my gosh, she's crashing out.
This is so funny.
Oh, this is so funny.
Yeah, we're going to react to this really quick before I close out.
I'm going to do a show on this tomorrow.
So, tune in.
It'll be around two or three.
I'm on a loose schedule here, so you guys will just have to bear with me.
All right.
I am a woman after all.
That feminism has failed women.
Second one, are you ready?
Are you ready?
Porn has weakened men and you know Charlie Charlie was so good at talking about this and so good at talking so courageously and sternly and clearly to the young men Here's what we know about porn and why it is so detrimental, not only to men, although it disproportionately affects men.
Porn objectifies women and children.
It commercializes sex.
But here's the thing: women love being objectified.
We love being objectified.
It's like we're begging to be objectified.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like, Allie, you got a pound of makeup as you're saying this.
Like, do you not see the irony?
It's like a tight dress, a pound of makeup, whining about women being objectified.
it which is a gift from God for a married couple between one man and one woman and it glorifies violence women love we love when the men are violent We're like, slap me harder.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like it creates addiction and shame.
It destroys marriages.
It ruins your perception of other people.
It is the legal loophole for sex trafficking.
It is evil.
Women love being sex trafficked.
We love it.
We're like, please, you know, in every way, and it will destroy your life.
And this is what I would want to say to men.
And I hope that you hear it from strong men in your life: that men, we need you.
And we need your masculinity.
And we need your strength.
And we need your boldness.
And we need your courage.
And we need those things to be harnessed for good.
We need you to be solid pastors.
We need you to be strong leaders.
We need your voice.
We need you to bravely stand up for the most vulnerable.
To stand up for women and children and for the unborn.
To raise a respectful ruckus for the things that matter.
need really strong men and porn makes you weak nothing like a woman nagging another man's husband Okay.
So, anyways, I'm going to go through this tomorrow, probably around two o'clock.
And it's going to be so funny because, oh, she's, she's, oh, she's crashing out.
Why not tell women to be better?
This is not a good faith question.
This is all I talk about.
Oh, my gosh.
All of the time you're wasting complaining of God, not giving you 6,700 women.
Oh, my gosh.
You respond to correction well, Allie.
Cannot wait to learn from you.
Oh, it's two L's.
Anyways.
All right.
So tomorrow, round two, I'll go through this because I'm sure she's going to crash out more tomorrow.
Anyways, guys, make sure you like the video on your way out.
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No, I'm telling you, he's the real deal.
I can tell.
I can tell.
I've been doing this long enough.
I really can tell the difference between a smoke, smoke salesman or whatever it is.
Because you'll notice the guys that really work in the field do not apply morality.
They're very specific.
Whereas the men that are just like commentators, they always have these very unrealistic expectations and solutions, like ban this, ban that.
No, it's not going to happen.
He's like, yeah, women are whores.
So, I mean, you don't have to.
I'm just, all I'm saying is I would recommend him.
Anyways, guys, make sure you like the video, subscribe to the channel, and I'll see you next time.