Pearl Daily’s hosts mock the "trad wife" movement, arguing it stems from societal decline—74% of divorces initiated by women, men losing custody and financial stability in biased courts, while women allegedly prioritize personal freedom over commitment. Guests like Bryson Gray demand repentance for past behavior (e.g., OnlyFans), dismissing superficial changes like marriage or children as proof of reform, while the hosts mock Lil Tay’s hypothetical "OnlyFans redemption arc." Former trad wives Jeannie Gage and Anitzia Templeton share harrowing stories: Gage, 50, slept in her car post-divorce after 24 years of dependency, alleging her ex-husband, Jason Greed, dodged alimony; Templeton calls the lifestyle "emotional slavery," comparing it to raising a fragile pet. The episode frames traditional marriage as a high-risk gamble, warning women against financial and emotional reliance on men while dismissing critiques as "female-friendly" excuses for failure. [Automatically generated summary]
Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.
I mean, this headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
Most young men are single.
Most young women are not.
Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America for the last 40 years.
It's a different world now.
Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
I need men!
The future is female.
Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
You've kind of got the Trad COD versus Red Pill thing.
This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
Oh, you need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
Marriage is a bond, and it's a sacred bond.
It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
Hannah Pearl Davis, or just pearly things.
One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
Gee, what could go wrong there?
74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
You need no evidence.
When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for, and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
I interview them on the other side.
I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
How much did you spend trying to get him back?
The legal fees alone was about $200,000.
Before you know it, you're homeless.
You're literally just thrown out into the street.
We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
Wives are taught to leave their husbands, and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
Family is the foundation of the society.
Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.
Feminism's biggest failures is it lies to women.
We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
We tell them to put off family into marriage.
You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
Oh, freeze your eggs, have an abortion.
What?
You're evil.
I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
Like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
It's self-sabotage.
And that's the thing.
Like women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
This is not about happiness.
The most important thing is the children.
And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me.
My feelings leave when I feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids.
This myth that we live in an age of male privilege.
Where's my male privilege?
They think, well, men have all the rights.
They have all the power.
Privileged patriarchal system that we have.
Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
Men are alone in this situation.
Men are homeless.
Men are thinking about eating guns.
I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong.
How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
Women are helplessly dependent upon men.
The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, or alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.
Culture is telling men, you are no good.
You got to get your act together.
I think men have failed themselves.
What kind of a man are you?
What kind of a woman are you going to attract?
If men are in trouble, so are women.
Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man.
500K, 500, 300K, 300K, 200K.
Am I crazy?
Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
So, you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
Women.
I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
I'm over it.
When is it going to be my turn?
Where are we meeting the men that don't?
I can't keep having these same conversations.
The only simp here is you, Pearl.
You sent for women.
I think you sent for women.
She's a provocateur.
She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this.
It's already happening.
It's just not out in the open yet.
Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.
The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
Civilization will crumble.
The American story does not end well.
This is an existential crisis ailing young men.
All right, what is going on, people?
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.
Thank you guys so much for tuning in.
And I was thinking to start the show that we should really go through some of my daily thoughts on Twitter.
I really just like, I thought that was kind of a fun segment last time because I kind of start going off on tangents and, you know, it can be kind of fun.
But before we get into that, guys, please make sure if you can, you can donate to the divorce documentary.
The divorce documentary is something we have been attempting to put together.
But, you know, society just really doesn't want it to come out.
One scorned woman dragged me to court.
Another scorned woman demonetized my channel for a year and a half.
I had to let go of 20 employees.
It was a whole thing.
All because they get so angry when we give this information that women are whores, not all.
And that, you know, marriage is a terrible deal.
And, you know, the reason, the reason that they don't want this information getting out is everyone's paid by women.
I remember I had a conversation with my dad once, and he's, he's such a saint.
He's like the biggest saint ever.
And he talked about how, because I told him that everyone's paid by women.
And then he said, no, that's not true.
I wasn't paid by women.
He's like, I sell, they sell soft, sold software to like HVAC, plumbing technician, like that sort of thing.
And I said, Dad, who's hiring them?
Men will figure out how to do it themselves.
Women will hire them.
You're indirectly also paid by women.
He's like, and I was like, yeah, dad, yeah.
But he's so nice.
My dad's like, he's like a saint.
Saint Saint, I would call him Saint Dan.
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All right.
So today we're going to be reacting to.
And by the way, if you guys like this t-shirt, it's the Audacity Network.
You know, I can sell these again.
I stopped selling them because people didn't buy them enough.
Okay, so I wanted to talk about a couple thoughts I had on here we go.
On tweets that I saw.
This one was from Coach Greg Adams.
And he said, she will cheat on a millionaire.
She'll cheat on the guy with status.
She'll cheat on the guy with muscles, cheat on game.
If she doesn't want to be kept, nothing will keep her.
Loyalty isn't earned.
It's chosen.
Choose wisely.
And this made me think about someone I know in my life.
And recently there was a breakup between this couple.
And he's devastated, right?
But he had no idea the stuff this girl was doing before he met.
And he might think it's him, right?
He might think that it's something he did that couldn't keep her and yada yada yada.
But the truth is, you know, she was someone who just didn't want to be kept.
She didn't want to be, you know, she's someone that has a hard time with monogamy, and that's a lot of women.
We have this idea that women are somehow monogamous.
And I don't really understand how we have this idea, considering how much of horrors we see women being, right?
Okay, so I had some pushback.
There's this voice in my head sometimes that talks.
And not actually.
Not actually.
Okay, so there is a tweet that I was tagged in recently, and I'm kind of doing more harm than good because I know that some of you will, in fact, subscribe to this girl's OnlyFans.
Now, apparently, Lil Tay has decided to drop an OnlyFans, Lil Tay.
It says, Lil Tay be popping.
Now, I don't really understand who this chick is, but I think she's some sort of internet celebrity.
And the challenge you get with the mini Britney Spears's of the world is giving that much attention to a young woman is kind of a dangerous thing because you're giving them a lot of power.
Power to make money, power to ruin someone's reputation, power to have access to high-value men.
And so I guess she tweeted: you have 24 hours to vote yes or no on whether I should make an OnlyFans.
If you don't respond, it counts as an automatic yes.
Now, obviously, this woman's going to make the OnlyFans anyway.
And you see the responses.
And what I was trying to explain is: so, Michael Knowles, and this is kind of like a blue-pilled kind of simp answer, right?
Because this is a shit test.
She's testing to she's basically saying, like, she is making marketing for her OnlyFans.
She is going to make the OnlyFans.
And what she wants you to do is engage and market it.
And, you know, if Michael Knowles, if he really cared about her not doing it or like thought this was wrong, he would just ignore it, right?
He would just ignore it because he doesn't want to market for this.
He said, since, but the thing is, with guys, they don't realize what women are doing, or maybe they don't care.
He says, since you asked for my opinion, whether or not the question is sincere, I'll give it.
Don't.
No amount of money is worth your dignity and you'll regret it immensely if you do so.
And I thought that's such a blue-pilled way of thinking because a lot of women do it and they don't regret it at all.
And it was worth their dignity.
And if anything, nowadays, they don't even lose their dignity doing it.
I don't say that in a happy way.
I don't say that, but like, I'm happy about it.
But women, if anything, they're rewarded and they're accepted into normal society these days.
All right, so I think that's the only one.
I said, I said you may as well do it because I don't think you have much else to offer.
Oh, wait.
Let me call in Bryson because Bryson said he was disappointed in me for this response.
And I just think, let's beef it out live, Bryson.
All right, let me hold on.
Let me text, I'm about to text him the link.
Guys, tell me when he gets on.
Because I tweeted this and he said, demonic advice, Pearl.
I'm disappointed.
Well, my advice, my advice was at least honest.
At this point, she's already mentally accepted that she's going to do it.
I'm sure the pictures are already in place.
You might as well just do it.
You're pretty set on it.
So it's now not my problem.
And if anything, having outrage towards it, I just think Market's the only fans.
But, you know, I'll bring Bryson on the line in a second.
I don't know when he'll get on.
I think he's driving.
So you guys just let me know when he gets here.
And I'll go through some of my other tweets that we got for the day before we get into the main reaction of the day.
So I guess she's made over $1 million in three hours.
Now, a tune says only fans must be banned.
And I get a little bit irritated.
I get irritated when people say that it should be banned.
Even knowing, because I'm a hypocrite, that at one point I said the same thing.
But if we ban corn, guys have a sex drive, right?
So what are these guys going to do?
I understand there's some men that claim that they quit corn, but I want you guys to know I believe none of you.
And none of that is verifiable.
I just have to take your word that you never did it.
Yeah, okay.
Okay.
So if we ban corn, it's really just a solution to women being too hard to have sex with.
So I don't really think it's the end of the world.
Oh, another, another trad, Isabella Moody.
Where was she?
She says, only fans, prostitutes, and simps who subscribe shouldn't be able to vote.
I don't really agree with that.
Maybe the prostitutes, because you guys know how I feel about that topic, even though I can't get into it.
But the simps, I mean, I think if a guy, look, as much of I may not agree with it, or, you know, feels kind of icky.
If a guy's building like the infrastructure of society and doing a manual labor job, I don't think you as a YouTuber have the right to tell him he's not able to be able to vote just because he paid $5.99 to see some boobs.
I don't think it's that.
I really don't think it's that deep.
The hookers, I would agree, but that's because I don't, I think it's more the gender.
I can't get into it.
Let's see what else we got.
Oh, this is another trad wife.
So apparently, Rebecca, and this is a girl, it's just, it's the fake trads, they just drive me into oblivion.
Because you're not what you say you are.
You're not.
I'm happy you figured it out.
You stuck the landing, but there's no such thing as a traditional woman in this society.
So it says, help Robin go into labor by sending her the most obnoxious rage bait.
Rage tweeting.
Come on.
Okay, give me, give me, I'm going to finish this thought and then I'll bring him up.
Rage tweeting pearly things brought my youngest into this world.
And the interesting thing is these are married women getting upset at me.
I just can't imagine a world where I am married happily to a man, right?
I'm happily married.
I'm in love.
I have these children.
And I just cannot imagine being an involved mother and still me, the random internet lady, triggering you so much that I even brought you into labor.
I have that much power over you is amazing.
The other thing is, I don't like, they always say I rage bait tweet, but they don't tell me what I say that's so enraging.
I mean, I'll stand on the women shouldn't, I can't say it, but I'll stand on that.
That's what I think.
And so it's almost like a way that they use when they don't like your opinion.
They just don't like it.
They don't like what you have to say.
So now you're a rage baiter.
But from one rage bait, I guess, personality, accused maybe to another.
We have a friend of the show, Bryson Gray.
He's going to call in.
Apparently, he's on a road trip.
But he said he was really disappointed in me, as we said earlier.
And I think we should bring him up and we can have a conversation about it.
Bryson, how are you?
Is he on?
Yeah, can you see me?
I can't see you, but it's because of how my TV is set up.
So you might be on screen or not.
I don't know.
I'd have to see you.
Okay.
Can you hear me though?
I can hear you.
How are you?
Doing good on the way back from High Point, North Carolina on the road.
Oh, really?
How's your show been going?
You getting some good guests on?
I haven't kept doing my show because I've been traveling way too much.
What, like touring or what?
Yeah, touring.
And yeah, I've been doing way too much with music.
Cool.
So I wanted to hear about your disappointment in me today.
I just saw the tweet and I was like, let's just, let's just bring him on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Very, very disappointed, Pearl, because, I mean, I'm not even insinuating that her request was genuine.
But for the people she tagged, I like if you're going to respond, it's a great opportunity to just say, no, because you do something different.
Like, little Tay, right?
I don't know how relevant she is in 2020 and the big 2025.
But rather than, how old is her?
Like, how old is she?
Well, but my thing is, she just wants to use you saying don't do it for the marketing.
So I'm just like, you're not going to get that out of me.
But you're spoiling it regardless.
So you have to market regardless.
The only reason I even saw the post is because it's your post under it.
That's true.
But I just thought it was funny, to be honest.
I thought it was funny.
I thought it was a funny response.
I'm just saying.
I don't.
I just, I think it's like, I think you're going to market it more arguing with her because there's conflict.
I really don't.
I'm not saying argue.
Yeah.
I'm not saying argue.
I'm saying say no, find God.
Or no, turn to Jesus.
You don't have to go back and forth with her, but just put something about, you know, God in there and just plant the seed and see what possibly could happen.
Yeah, I don't think a seed would be planted.
I just think she was going to do it anyway.
You might as well.
I don't know.
I mean, I've given up, Bryson.
I've given up.
So I'm not listening.
Of course, I don't think I really don't.
I don't think her joint was genuine, but at the same time, I viewed it as just a quick opportunity.
You feel me?
I feel you.
I understand where you're coming from, but I'm just, I'm tired.
You ever get tired?
You ever get tired, Bryson?
Like, you just, you know, you seen Lauren Southern crash out recently and like she's accusing everyone of rape and stuff.
That's that's a typical women, woman thing to do when they need attention: accuse a man of rape.
It's just like, and then the simps defend it.
Do you know what I mean?
It's just, it's like, like, turning point or will platform her doing that.
And I'm just like, even on the, I'm just tired.
You know, I give up.
You guys win.
Be whores.
I don't care.
They got to tell people to repent.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, you never know.
Lauren Southern, I don't, you know, based on what I'm hearing, it seems like she has a, she's known for being a harlot, but that's still an opportunity to tell her to repent.
Stop engaging in harlotry.
Nice.
Well, do you have any?
I just thought it'd be fun to bring you on today.
So you got any final words to give to me or to give to the people?
You can say a verse or something.
Yes.
My message to everybody is repent or they all will perish.
That's Luke 13:3.
But also, though, but also, here's the thing, though.
The Bible says that God angels rejoice more over one person that turns to God versus anybody else.
So even though a lot of these women are whores, lying about people about rape, trying to get attention and money, whatever the case may be, they're degenerates right now.
They're probably going to hell, but they can also repent.
So that's my message.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, Bryson.
This is Doug NPA.
I help Pearl with the show.
And I have to put things in context for you guys.
You guys don't know who Lil Tay is.
So let me paint the picture because, okay, Pearl, remember the other day we were talking about if you were to have a young girl who chose who chooses a career in media at 18, 19, 20 years old, what would be the game plan?
So Lil Tay was in middle school, right?
She's this Asian girl, and she got popular because she was acting ratchet.
Yes, I remember tossing around money and trying to rap and cuss and stuff like that.
So she's already out there in the media already.
Yeah.
And she can't take that back.
She's already Lil Tay.
She's already, she already has like.
She's already cooked, huh?
Yeah, she's already cooked.
Yeah.
So that's why I disagree.
So you can't erase her past.
That's a fact.
But you can become a new creation in Christ and let the old self die.
I mean, bro, I used to get drunk and make out random women in bars all the time.
My name used to be King Vodka.
And I was known for that where I'm from.
But at the end of the day, now I'm Bryce and Cray and I stand on Bible.
Matter of fact, I think Lil Tay with her past.
That's more of a reason why I would try to get somebody like her to repent.
But not super nice.
It's like, stop trying to be a whore.
Repent.
Be blunt with it.
You feel me?
Okay.
So what's the biggest difference between you when you were young enough to make a change and Lil Tay?
She's a woman.
That's the biggest difference.
Men are more likely to take accountability, look accountability, look down the road and say, man, you know, the path I'm going down isn't right.
Or they'll have people in their lives, you know, they'll have older men, people around them, giving them advice and say, hey, hey, young buck, if you keep going down this road, it's going to be a bad thing for you.
But Lil Tay, she's already surrounded by the wrong people because she's Lil Tay.
Come on, man.
No, no, I mean, all that I agree with, but it still doesn't change the fact that the thing can happen just because men are more rational.
And of course, men are more likely to take accountability, of course.
But that nature doesn't change the fact that there are some women that have taken accountability for their past and turned to Christ.
Yeah, for now.
So, bro, until they don't, like, come on.
Yeah, we don't.
You are crazy, bro.
What?
No, it's so true.
I mean, like, Nala, let's take Nala, for example, is one.
But there's so many girls like her.
They get to a certain age, and now they like they don't want to take accountability for their past.
They have to.
They have to because they have to market to betas.
They got to have a bailout plan.
They got to get married.
Pro.
Yeah.
Well, check this out.
So why is it?
So, Bryson, according to Nala, Lil Tay can open OnlyFans for five, seven years, get $30, $40 million, and then repent.
So why?
Why is it she just do it now and then repent later on?
What's the difference?
I mean, I mean, there is no difference.
You can repent anytime you're in sand.
You know how to get OnlyFans.
Oh, my God.
Wait, she gets a get out of jail free card.
And you guys say it.
Sorry, go ahead.
Go ahead.
Y'all not listening.
So if somebody's a whore, even if a woman's so like 50 men, right?
What's the super whore name?
The one that's like popular Lily Phillips.
Is she the one that looks like a skeleton almost?
Bonnie Blue.
Oh no, one of them, bro.
Okay.
Who cares?
The whores.
Yeah, go ahead.
She's a popular whore.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, no, the whores, the horse.
Literally, right now, right?
She can repent.
Would it be hard for that person to repent?
Yes, because they've engaged in such filth.
As long as you're not a reprobate, you can repent.
She might be reprobate, but even whores, bigger repent, turn to Christ, stop all that, repent.
But repent requires action.
You can't just say, I repent.
You have to literally change your life in action and not succumb to the flesh.
Yeah, but then you can get all the fun and then you can just change later.
Like if you actually do it, so why would you not?
Oh my gosh, that's awesome.
And here's the thing: get a bigger caseload, a bigger case file to repent from.
Yeah, you can.
You might as well have the money.
If you're going to repent, you might as well repent.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
No, I don't.
I don't know what you mean.
You're trying to, that's why you're trying to intentionally play God.
You're trying to say, listen, God.
No, where'd he go?
Until I have my fun first.
Oh, now you're saying, you're saying, hey, God.
You're saying, hey, God, my plan.
I am literally planning now to go be a whore.
And then, no, no, that's you trying to play God.
That's literally reprobate.
That's you like literally spitting in God's face.
But you could just, but you can just pretend you didn't later.
You know what I mean?
Like, you can just pretend, oh, I didn't plan this out.
Oh, yeah.
I just want to change your heart.
Yeah.
You have to have something to repent from, right?
Now, would you argue that the more that you repent from, the more, like, do you get more credit for repenting for more whoreing or what?
I mean, no, because repentance made the same for everybody.
Turn to sin, stop being stiff neck, turn from sin, turn to God.
But like I said, you can be too far gone.
That's what a reprobate mind is.
Reprobate mind bidding is too far gone.
But the problem is, in y'all case, Way y'all do things, y'all all y'all automatically assume the worst.
And I'm not even saying most times the worst isn't the correct thing.
It's 2025, man.
I mean, it is, but the problem with assuming the worst as a one-size-fits-all is you miss when it's not that.
Or you miss when it's not that.
I mean, if y'all don't care about being followers of God, then you're on prerogative, you'll go to hell with the whole thing.
So, wait, so I'm immoral because I don't believe somebody.
That's not what I just said.
I have no way.
Okay, that's how I took.
Okay, what did I, what did I say that's incorrect?
Because what you said, how I understood it, is that if like I am missing the one people that are actually genuinely repenting, and then you're just as bad as them.
But it's like, if I don't believe you, like, why do I have to believe them?
You know, go ahead.
Well, so that's not, that's not what I said.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Listen, a lot of times when I talk to women, this happens.
What I just said, what I just said, literally.
Okay.
Not saying the majority of the time you aren't correct when you assume the worst.
I said, but when you assume the worst is a one-size-fits-all thing, you can miss when it's the opposite.
And I said, that's cool.
Yeah.
Unless you are a person of God.
And the reason I said that's cool, unless you're a person of God, is because you have no choice because you're commanded things as a person of God.
You're commanded to do certain things.
You're commanded to give people opportunity to repent.
You're commanded to forgive people.
So if you're not a person of God and you automatically has a one-size-fits-all thing, that's fine from early perspective because in most cases, you'll be right.
It's rational.
I'm not saying that's irrational.
But if you are a Christian, you have no choice but to do a case-by-case basis or else you're bearing a false witness and a righteous judgment, million things.
But why can't I just believe it in like 20 years?
Like, why can't my default be like guilty until you like proven otherwise?
Like, why, why can't that be my default?
You know what I mean?
Like, my dad, he has a phrase.
He says he expects nothing from everybody.
Like, if he hires someone, he expects them to do a terrible job.
And he said it's because then he's not disappointed.
And that way.
And he said, he said, I expect them to do an awful job.
And if they do a great job, then I'm pleasantly surprised.
I'm happy.
And this is a guy.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Yeah.
And so I would apply the same thing with, especially by gender.
I mean, come on, we don't mean anything.
Like, come on.
Like, have you seen us?
Like, so if I see a conversion from an ex-hoe, I already know that you were able to do the OnlyFans.
I already know you're very good at lying, especially to men.
I know you're good at manipulating men.
So why wouldn't my default be, I don't believe you?
And then in like 20 years, if you're still around, which they're usually not, then I'll believe you.
Maybe.
The problem is you just contradicted yourself with the thing you just said about your father.
So let me ask you a question.
Okay.
How can a whore at what point?
Because you remember what you said about your father.
I expect the worst, but if they prove otherwise and do a good job, then I believe them.
My question is, what criteria does a whore have to meet for you to think it's a good job and real?
Or is there no criteria for them to hit and you automatically think it's a bad job?
I would have to say that it's the pattern.
Yeah, yeah, I got you.
So it would have to be their actions over the time.
And time, I would say, would have to be 10, 20 years.
The longer they hoard, the more time I'd have to see it.
The other challenge you're going to get is nowadays you can just live a double life in another city.
I would have a hard time believing an ex-OnlyFans girl.
I would have to see modest clothes from her.
Like your friend, the like Charisse one, remember?
I forgot her name, but I see her on Twitter all the time.
And before she was like on this God stuff, and now she's 304 and it on the timeline.
You know what I mean?
It's just like, yeah, it's like these women, it's like one day.
So I'd rather not be disappointed and just be like, do you know what?
You guys, this is terrible.
This is, I mean, specific.
So, okay, okay, okay.
Let's say, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Let's say my mother.
I talked about this already.
Okay, go ahead.
Okay, okay.
I said she has to be vetted and married to a man of the church.
As in, like, she has to meet a church-going man, and that man has to bring her into the church through marriage, right?
She has to have that man to children and have avoided that behavior for 10 to 15 years.
Okay, wait, so I just want to get this straight.
So, your criteria is she has to marry a man of God and has to have children with that man of God.
I'm not against that criteria.
If somebody's a whore for a very, if somebody was a whore for a very long time, we need some fruit, marrying a man of God and having children with that man.
Beautiful.
I'm with you here.
Yep.
That second half of what you're saying is what don't make sense, right?
No whoring for 10 to 15 years at least.
Okay, just hold on, hold on, hold on.
I got a question though.
Let's say, right, this happens.
So, when that happens, though, that's not enough for you.
Even after that, it's a start.
But even a start is marrying a man of God and having kids.
A start to you is not dating a man of God, starting to dress more modest, starting to show fruit.
There's a lot of things that could be considered fruit.
But even after she marries a man of God and have children with this man of God, she still has to quote unquote not whore out for 10 and 15 years.
Why not five years?
Because the average marriage lasts six to seven years.
So she has to stay married to that man longer than the average marriage.
I would want to say, I would actually, I would actually depend on the marriage.
Yeah, I would actually say the youngest kids got to hit like 10 to 15.
I would even maybe put 20 years because I know once they hit the 20-year mark, they don't usually divorce.
So, yeah, for me, that's what it would take.
But based on statistics, based on what y'all saying, that seven-year mark should be when everything is like solidified.
No, I would need longer.
Yes.
Okay, so once again, that's not based on date or anything right here.
We're talking about fillers.
My next question, though, is during that time when this person is in the process of quote unquote proving herself to be different than what she was, my question is: will you continue to call her a whore during the process, or will you back up and watch and see first before you resume to call her a whore?
Yeah, so what I would like to see, it depends how the church treats her because nowadays they just hand her a microphone and let her start preaching.
So I would prefer that she sits in the back of the church, draws no attention to herself at all.
If she draws any attention to herself, get out of here.
We don't need any attention on you.
You've had enough attention for, if you had an OnlyFans, you have an attention addiction problem.
So I want you in the back of the church.
I want you shutting up one argument.
You're out.
What, like, if you wear one promiscuous thing to church, gone, you can't come back.
Like, I actually want there to be standards in the church and them to enforce them and kick her out if she doesn't stay, if she doesn't follow them.
I'm sitting there.
That's biblical.
The church has a 20-year probationary period.
Wait, wait, but my question is not answered, though.
So, during this probationary period that y'all are speaking of, will you continue if you talk about this woman, will she still be called a whore?
Yeah.
Or is there a way to do that?
No, because once you're a whore, you're always a whore.
So, I mean, that's not a problem.
If anything, that's on her to not be offended.
Like, that's on her.
Like, if she gets offended, that's your own fault.
That's not about her being offended.
I talk about the person that's doing this.
That's unrighteous.
That's unrighteous.
Well, I would just say that would be a fact.
Like, you're a whore.
Just like actively doing something.
If I used to be a thief and I stopped stealing, I'm no longer a thief.
You can't continue calling me a thief.
I would still say you're a thief.
You just stopped stealing.
Okay, that's just look.
That's just, I mean, no disrespect.
That is a rational.
That's totally rational.
Like, I don't think Jordan Belford isn't a thief anymore.
He's still a thief.
I wouldn't want him near any of my family's money.
Oh, hell no.
I wouldn't really want him around me.
Go ahead.
But he just stopped robbing people.
But I think it's more because he can't do it anymore.
drug addicts have to accept the fact that once again this is feelings drug addicts Per definition of the word, they're not a thief anymore.
Just like an NBA player, if they retire, people don't say they're an NBA player.
They say they used to be an NBA player.
They're ex-NBA player.
They're retired NBA player.
Nobody says they're still an NBA player because that sounds retarded.
No, we're going to.
Most people would call Michael Jordan an NBA player.
They just say he retired.
They would just say he retired.
Look up any article about Michael Jordan in the last year.
It's going to say ex-NBA player or used to be NBA player.
They're not going to call him a NBA.
Okay.
If a guy touches kids, gets convicted and gets out and isn't touching kids anymore.
Is he still a thief?
Yes or no?
No, he used to be a potato, but he shouldn't get that opportunity.
I think they should all die.
Where's this energy for the whores?
That's what I'm saying.
Come on.
Like, this is.
Oh, no.
So, so, so I want everybody to get, I don't, I don't want anybody to be confused right now.
A harlot can repent.
Somebody that commits adultery, I believe what the Bible believes.
Anybody that says the Bible should be put to death, don't ever get me confused.
I support them getting pit to death.
So if two people commit, you can ask Shakani this all the time.
She rolls her eyes.
When I hear about somebody cheating on their wife or cheating on their husband, I say we need to go back to the Bible days.
But a regular harlot is different from somebody cheating on your wife.
And that's not called for death in the Bible.
All it says for this definition of a whore is a person who is sexually promiscuous or a person who engages in a sex act for money.
And so I would take number two, a person who is sexually promiscuous.
I would say they're still sexually promiscuous.
They just stopped whoring, but they're still that person.
No.
And here's how he would go in the church.
He interrupted me because he knows you're not going to be definition.
No, no, no.
I just want to say one thing.
You don't understand.
Whores are addicted to attention.
They have to get that kind of like Nala.
Nala went right to preaching because she needs to get that dopamine hit by proselytizing.
She's making up for what she's not on OnlyFans by trying to preach and get addition that way.
So you would have to keep these women away from that.
If a whore goes into the church, no one would actively call her a whore out of nowhere.
But she would show a tendency where she wouldn't be able to stay in her place.
She moved out of her place, start trying to preach and proselytize just like Nala.
Then you say, whore, stop talking.
You don't know anything.
You have a long way to go.
That's how it would go.
I partially agree.
Unless they show that they're not changing, then you can go back and call them a whore.
This is the difference, though.
If I'm not mistaken, I mean, I do agree that I do not like when people just become Christians.
Be anybody, really.
I don't even like Jellyroll talk about Christ.
He need to shut his mouth and open the Bible.
But including with Nala, you shouldn't be put to the forefront in interviews and such when you were a babe in Christ.
Just like Russell Brand.
Don't stop putting these people in a position to talk as if they some authority on Christ.
But if I'm not mistaken, Nayla's about to get married, isn't she?
She got married over Zoom, but where are the kids?
Oh, she's married.
Okay, so we talking through here.
What's next?
When are y'all going to stop calling her a whore?
But she still dresses like a whore.
And when she stops talking so much and trying to preach.
Okay, so.
Like, okay.
I saw her.
Me and my wife saw her IG.
And, you know, she's new.
Some of the stuff she wears is like, okay, you need to work on this, but it's way better than what she used to dress like.
We all admit on that.
Oh, my God.
You guys have no standards.
You just let everybody in.
No, I do have standards.
You don't like me back.
But even the fact that you're like white, but even the fact you're white-knighting so hard for her.
It's like, this is what people think.
Are you up for using y'all criteria and saying, can y'all, can y'all stay consistent with y'all criteria?
I'm not white knighting.
If y'all just dislike stuff and you have a one-size-fits-all view, which means at some point, you will be irrational.
I won't.
Not really.
I want you to stop dressing like a whore.
And she didn't.
Me too.
She still does it.
I'm the king.
I'm the king of telling women to stop dressing like a whore.
She still does it.
Well, what about the fact that she's accepting all these roles and all these Christian groups as a Christian leader of a woman?
And she's trying to do that.
There's no such thing as a woman, Christian leader, if anything.
So if she's doing that, she needs to stop.
That's why you call her a whore in response.
Say, look, whore.
No, that's not talking.
No, you don't call her a whore.
Whore for acting like they have a leader role where they don't.
No, but even proselytizing all that stuff.
I told you, Nala is trading in the attention from OnlyFans to the attention that she's getting as being a Christian now.
She's literally, she has a new addiction.
I have a question for you.
If she has kids, because according to your criteria, because remember, I asked both of you for your criteria.
So according to your criteria, she made step one.
So my question is when she passes step two and hopefully she starts dressing more modestly.
My question is, at what point, like, do you stop calling her whores?
It's seven years or 10 years.
No, I'm 18 years.
Well, and I don't believe her because her actions still don't match right now.
I think it's easy to dress modestly when you're old and ugly.
So I kind of like to see what you do when you're young and hot.
You know, and she's still young and hot and she's still dressing like a whore.
So I'd say like year one not going so well for her.
Yeah, she got married, but where's the kids?
Right.
I mean, you know.
And her OnlyFans was still on for the first, what, nine, 10 months that she became a Christian.
It was.
That's terrible.
Yeah.
So like, so what I believe, do I believe her because she said she because she said she would say stay with a guy for life?
Not really.
So I would need more than that.
So what if in the next year she starts dressing completely modest, as she should, dress like a whore is a sin.
So let's say, let's say she starts dressing completely modest and she announces she's pregnant.
At what point are you like, maybe I possibly could have been robe?
I don't know at what point.
15 years.
I'll still, yeah, I will still, I'll still think she'll go back because again, most of her life, she's had harlot behavior.
She's done interviews.
And so she had done it since she was as young as 13, 14 years old.
Like she was not the OF, but like she was, you know, talked about being a kid, sneaking out.
Let's say 15.
She started.
She's 26.
That's 11 years.
So 11 years of a behavior.
I'm gonna need to see you stop for like 15, and I wouldn't even count this year because all you did was get married.
Anybody can take a vow, right?
That's not a hard thing to do.
What's difficult is to you know go out of the limelight, not dress like you know, when you have a good body, not showing it off.
It's like when fat people don't show off their bodies, I don't really care.
Like, okay, you know, and then also, she's already gotten a taste of the OF money, the lifestyle.
She's gonna have to resist going back to that or finding or doing some type of that for 10 to 15 years at least because it's always the desire for her to do that.
Because she could not do OF for three, four years.
Let's see how she does living like a normal person on a regular income.
Understand what I'm saying?
No, I don't.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
And I'm gonna be honest, and I won't let me finish.
Of course, you know, I love Pearl, but I gotta be honest with y'all.
I think y'all are no different.
I'm gonna tell you why I say this because I gotta be honest with y'all.
Based on the criteria y'all hit, the more I question both of y'all, the more everything keeps extended and keeps stretching.
What I honestly believe is y'all just feel a certain way.
It's about feelings.
And I think that there is no criteria for somebody to hit.
You're always going to find a reason at some point.
And I'm not saying you're 100% wrong.
I genuinely believe in most cases, these people are lying.
The overwhelming majority of cases, I think they're lying.
But based on the, I asked questions for a reason.
And I think y'all, I don't think y'all things are based on logic or rationale.
I think it's based I feel this way about women and women period point blank and I'm going to find whichever way I need to make sure that I keep feeling this way as a one-size-fits-all thing.
I think women are irrational.
I think women take no responsibility or accountability for the things they do.
But at the same time, there's a moment where you got to be honest with yourself and be objective rather than just have a one-size-fits-all view.
Well, I'm going to say my position.
I don't think that OnlyFans models and whores should ever be let into the church.
Once you do that, it's done for you.
So this is literally a thought exercise for me.
I have a flat thing.
There are things that people can do where they shouldn't be accepted anywhere and they have to suffer the consequences for the rest of their lives.
And OnlyFans and Hori is one of those.
So this is literally a thought exercise for me.
I don't think that any of you Christians should let any of these women near your church where you guys have followed the rules.
You've done what you can.
You help your community.
You're going to let these whores in.
I don't think you should at all.
But the problem is your position.
The problem is, it's just like when I hear whores talk about like, you shouldn't judge.
It's like, I think you should judge.
But wait, wait, wait.
Listen what I'm saying.
So listen, I feel the same way when I hear advice from people like you.
It's like, why are you giving advice?
Because your standards aren't based on the Bible.
Your standard is based on a personal worldview you have, which means you are your own God.
So what's the difference between you giving an opinion of what the church should do than OnlyFans whore saying women that dress in mind should be allowed in the church?
There is no difference.
What y'all saying is not based on the Bible.
Well, I would say that at least in Doug's house, he runs it, but the church guys let women manipulate them and hand over power to women in the church.
And that's true in 90% of churches.
So at least an average guy, he's the king of his own castle.
He's the head of his house.
Well, I'm going to be honest.
In most churches, I'm 100% in agreement.
I mean, I literally spend 90% of my music calling out a church.
They have women pastors.
They let gay couples.
They letting women dress like whores in there.
All that's demotic.
But see, the issue, though, here is y'all say I'm a king.
I don't even believe it.
I don't believe half the people that have these views about women.
I believe they'll fold very quickly.
Because me, I'm actually, I'm married and my wife right beside me.
She submits to me and I've king of my household.
And I can say that no offense will happen because that because that's biblical.
And since my wife is a biblical woman, she's not in that business.
Your wife is awesome.
I love your wife.
She makes very good cookies.
Yeah, she's great.
She is great.
I've seen you talk about your wife before.
She sounds amazing, man.
She sounds awesome.
But she's amazing because she follows her core values is the Bible.
So this is, and this is, and this is my point.
The core value, not these conservative.
I came to be Christian, but I don't submit to my husband.
No, them women are heathens.
I'm talking about real biblical women.
They already know to submit to their husbands, submit to their husbands.
So if we keep things biblical, we wouldn't be in half of these situations anyway.
I totally agree with you, but my point is you're letting in women that aren't biblical.
And it would be one thing if their actions matched, but it's like, I don't really care if you say you repented.
If I'm looking at your Instagram and your butt's still out, or if you're posting a TikTok and flashing the camera and she did that, and then nobody calls her out, and it's just an excuse.
It's like, oh, she's learning.
I'm like, really?
You're 26.
You can't figure out how to be modest if that's what's what you say you want, right?
Like, I just got to look at their actions, and most of them, I don't see a change.
So it's just my opinion.
You do, you do, you do judge by accidents.
I don't let, I don't let you see people in my fold doing stuff like that.
That's like with me.
I'm saying that I'm asking about the logical consistency over the course of time.
If somebody's still doing that, that is wrong.
I'm saying at what point is if they do start progressing and stop doing that and get married and have kids, then at what point are we helping them out?
15 years is just that's crazy work.
That's just saying I don't want to give them that.
No, I don't think it's our job to help.
Like you're you're like, I can't make her not sin.
That's her job.
That's her job.
I can't, I can't, I can't put a gun to her head and say, Nala, stop dressing like a whore.
You know, Nala, that's on her.
Yeah.
That has nothing to do with us.
I never said that.
I'm talking about the criteria you're giving.
You're the one giving the criteria.
You're the one commenting on whoever woman is.
Your worldview, even in your quote-unquote claim criteria, because what it seems is I give a criteria to seem objective, but then when there's a line of questioning about the criteria, everything starts extending.
And it's like, even then, or I don't know, even then, you know what I'm saying?
So that means your criteria isn't real.
That means there is no criteria to me.
No, I think you're just saying a lot of words, but you're not saying anything.
Like just there's no, I said something clear.
You just know you neither want you to have responses to it.
That's why you can't respond to it.
I'm clearly saying your criteria doesn't make sense, but I proved it by asking y'all a line of questioning.
No, every time I ask a line of questioning and y'all can't explain my criteria makes perfect sense.
I want her to not do the behavior for longer than she did it, at least.
I think that's the bare minimum.
She did it for 11 years, 11 plus years.
You don't do it.
Isn't that fair?
I think that's perfectly fair.
No, of course not.
No, no, no, no, I'm just saying this makes no sense because his criteria was married, children.
And then he said, well, statistically, it's at the seven-year mark, but I don't really care about that.
It has to be even so, even so after that.
So that means even as he's given his criteria, once these points are met, it doesn't mean anything to him until the end point is met.
Well, there is no progression.
No, I'm saying we can maybe go back and forth.
Is it seven years?
Is it 10 years?
Is it 15?
But I need longer than like a 90-day trial, Bryson.
And that's what you guys are getting.
Like, you guys expect me to believe these people in a year.
Or are you guys?
Because obviously, you're not listening to anything I'm saying.
I'll tell you.
I'm telling you, just like the women you talk about.
No, an example I can use is during this conversation, you were defending Nala's Instagram.
No idea.
You're lying.
Name the goal.
I'll defend her Instagram right now.
You said my wife was looking at her Instagram and it's better than it used to be.
And I'm like, is that defending her?
Is that a fact?
That's definitely defending her.
No, no, it's definitely.
Wait, wait, wait.
Let me ask the male in the room.
Did I still say it's wrong?
Yes or no?
You know what?
I'm not quite sure what you're saying, bro.
Y'all, bro.
Y'all are not honest, bro.
Because here's the thing about it.
Here's the thing about it.
You're just proving the point.
Like I said before, Lil Tay, she should make $20 million on OnlyFans.
Come knocking on Bryson's door and say, hey, hey, Bryson, I cleaned up my Instagram.
You know, I'm good to go.
And you'll be like, okay, sure.
Come on in.
So, Lil Tay should.
I know you're not going to be able to do that.
I should start OnlyFans right now and make more money.
Because why not?
I know you want to deflect.
I know you want to deflect.
Just probably thinks that I defended her Instagram.
My question is: did I still say it's wrong?
Did I say that it's improving, but it's still wrong?
Did I say that yes or no?
But why even have the improving?
Like, why do you need that?
Like, oh, you're still.
Because it shows progress because biblically, people have to go through a stage of progression.
I'm not saying she should be allowed.
I'm not saying she should be allowed to be allowed to be allowed to be allowed to be 10 to 15 years of progression.
That's what we're saying.
But you're talking trash about the timeline.
10, 15 years of progression, minimum.
So, so this was funny, right?
Just probably things made a claim.
I debunked her claim and asked you to confirm it.
You were scared to confirm it because you know you're not making sense.
And then even when Jeff Prolythings rethought about it and realized she was wrong, she said, Well, why even bring up the improving?
Never was, never was there accountability.
No, I think you're kind of playing semantic.
I like you, Bryce.
Semantic?
You're the one making the claim.
You said I defended something.
I didn't say I defended something.
It's not semantic as if you made the claim, but then when I checked you, church now is the last stop on the horror train.
And Bryson's taking the tickets to the people getting off the train.
I literally taught out stuff more than both of you combined.
Literally, this is what I'm known for.
Y'all just don't like that I'm coming at y'all from an objective perspective.
And then, but this, this just showed me something.
One thing y'all are correct about.
And just Prolything is the same way.
It's women do not take accountability.
I agree with that.
100%.
All right.
All right.
Well, thanks for calling in, Bryce.
And calling anytime.
All right.
Yes, sir.
All right.
See ya.
All right.
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I didn't think that was going to turn into a debate, to be honest.
I didn't realize that.
That was my fault.
I got on here and had to ask certain questions because remember, pro, we talked about if a woman turned 18 and said, look, you know, I want a career in media.
I want to make some money, right?
Start an OF.
Why not?
I mean, he kind of proved our point, to be honest.
He didn't realize.
I don't know if he didn't realize it or what, but I'm like, you're just proving that they should actually be the only fans.
Think about this.
Lil Tay, she's already made a million dollars.
She probably hasn't even done anything adult-related yet.
But if she were to go full-fledged Nala, she could be worth $15 to $20 million by the time she's 26.
And then she could say, hey, Trad Cons, I've repented and still have a successful media career and still find some church sip to marry her and have kids with.
The plan is laid out.
It's already there.
Am I wrong?
No, I don't know why you wouldn't do it.
I mean, like, from a logical point of view.
So, sorry.
I just couldn't believe it.
I just couldn't believe.
I was like, how is it not defending her if you're saying her Instagram's better?
Like, that's.
I know.
She shouldn't have an Instagram at all if she's serious.
I know.
I know.
But I was like, I don't want to go back and forth.
He's going to be like, is it a fact?
Is it better?
I'm like, I guess technically, but I don't like, why would you even like, I was going to say that's the equivalent of a pedo and then say, oh, he does it less now.
I'm like, uh, like, you know, that's how I would do it.
And I like your position where you say, I'm supposed to just believe a whore that's whored for 10, 15 years.
And she says she's Christian now.
Yeah, I don't.
Like, we don't have to believe it.
I don't have to.
The whole concept of repenting, that's why I'm not religious.
I try to be the best person I can be because I believe and be a good person.
I don't have to repent because I've never done anything crazy like open up an OF and make freaking $15 million.
I've never done it.
Women shouldn't do that, period.
And we want to give all this credit to women who've done it and have changed all of a sudden.
You want the same credit in the church of a woman repenting from OF as a woman who's never done it in the first place?
That doesn't rock with me at all.
No way.
Nope.
Well, I guess this is a good segue into.
I did not think that was going to be a full-fledged debate.
My mad.
But Bryson's a fairly bad.
That's not my fault.
I started asking questions to take it down that way.
So I'm hoping Bryson doesn't take it the wrong way.
No, he won't.
He's a good guy.
He is.
He's cool.
No, he's not like that.
He's not the crash out type.
And if he does, he'll just come back on.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Sorry for just barging in.
I got to get on the line about this Lil Tay thing because I remember we were talking about before.
If a woman is young and she wants a career in media and she wants to make real money, why not?
Yeah, you take out morals.
Shit.
Apparently, you can get morals later.
Yeah.
Guys, put a one in the chat if you think that Lil Tay should do an OF and then repent later.
Or two if she should do it at all.
In fact, can we put a poll in the chat?
Yeah, it's such BS because they don't even tell her to pay the money back.
Like it's such BS.
So she gets $5 million and I get nothing because I did.
Like, do you know what I can make on OnlyFans?
And I have to have morals.
It's like, bullshit.
I got to stream every day.
I could have just sold pictures in my butthole.
I'm just kidding.
I like being here, guys.
I prefer that.
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I just thought we would, you know, listen to more women whining about not having to work and staying home with kids.
We complain about everything.
My God.
And it's reignited an age-old conversation about what it means to be a good wife.
We just spoke with two trad wives and a trad wife in training.
And our next guests are being candid about how trad wife failed them.
Jenny Gage is revealing how living for two decades inside a Mormon marriage as a trad wife left her feeling out of control and penniless.
Anitzia Templeton says her 10 years as a trad wife were miserable and unfulfilling.
And now both women are speaking out to as they want other young women, especially to avoid similar situations.
Take a look.
Being a trad wife means returning to traditional goals, traditional times, traditional life, traditional gender roles.
The man is the breadwinner.
Oh my gosh, she looks crazy.
She looks insane.
And so your husband has authority over you.
Whether or not I was rich or poor literally depended on it.
Literally depended on how pretty I was and how good I was at doing those things that men wanted women to do.
From the kitchen to the bedroom.
So exactly why you notice you never see trad wives in their 40s advocating for that life.
You can discredit this by calling me whatever you want, bitter, jealous.
Okay.
So what happens is women and men are cutting a deal.
Men want sex.
They want women's youth.
They want their fertility.
And they want her to be hot.
Okay.
I know there's personality, whatever, but let's just say.
Women want men's genetic material and resources.
And what happens is women, there are women that cut deals young, right?
So they trade in their youth and they trade in their fertility and they cut a deal with a guy young.
Women that cut, that made a bad deal, so they cut a deal with a guy that they realized wasn't alpha.
I hate using that word, but I got to.
Or he wasn't, you know, the guy she wanted, or maybe she saw her friends get a better guy.
Or, you know, it's poor men.
We don't even treat you guys like people.
I'm so sorry.
It's just, you know, I'm just, I'm telling you how it is in Girl World.
Women ultimately want to do whatever they want and they want to have sex with the hot guy.
So by doing the traditional thing, women are giving up doing whatever they want.
And in exchange, they want the hot guy.
That's what they're hoping to get out of it.
Unfortunately, that's not really the archetype in the tradition.
Like, I hate to say this, but the traditional guy, people always say they look gay.
And I know it's partially a shaming tactic, but it's also because a lot of them aren't taught frame in the church.
We kind of saw because it's just like women rule.
Kind of, you know, saw by the earlier conversation.
Not all, not all.
Some of the guys are good looking and masculine, but usually, you know, for you know how it is in any social group.
There's a few women that win, there's some that lose.
So maybe she depicts a guy she thinks is going to be a winner and not a winner.
And there's nothing women hate more than spending their youth and their fertility on a guy that does, and she doesn't get what she wants out of it.
And women that don't get what they want out of the interaction, they'll make you pay either through reputation destruction.
You'll see Diddy, like Cassie and Diddy, she gave him her best years.
And in exchange, I don't know what the hell she wanted, but maybe she thought she'd be a bigger celebrity.
She'd get commitment out of him long term.
I don't know.
But she didn't get what she wanted.
Now she's making him pay monetarily.
And so these women, they're just bad business women, right?
And if you want to say it that way.
I know you guys believe in love, but we don't believe in love.
We're in business.
So these are women that took bad deals.
Like Lauren Southern's another one.
She really could have, she could have won and she could have won with someone pretty attractive.
And by the way, when I say the hot guys, hot guys is not necessarily being just good looking.
It's an attitude, right?
It's, I mean, we all know that fat guy that always has hot women.
Some guys just have that, you know, that swagger, you know, we that we love.
So these are women bitching because they didn't get a good end of the bargain.
And by the way, we're not logical.
So some of these, they might talk and you might think she had a pretty good deal.
That's coming from a male point of view.
Women, it's like, am I having fun?
Is he hot and exciting?
And did I get the genetic material and the resources?
That's like female.
Great.
But men are so much more logical.
Men, it's so interesting.
Whenever you hear men talking about what like that, that guy's a better guy, they always do it from the male lens.
And it's pretty much always money and productivity.
But women don't care about that.
That's why we sleep with criminals.
This is just one woman with some experience.
I hope that you'll remember.
A man is not a plan and never was.
Your finances should not depend on somebody being in love with you.
That's just not a secure bet.
The marriage is over and you're staying for the kids and all this.
And you're setting a horrible example for them.
So I am that example for you.
You can leave, you can make it, and you can be way happier than you are right now.
Wow.
Please welcome Anitia Teffelton here in our studio.
Jenny Gates is in her home in Tucson, Arizona.
Ladies, thank you both for joining us.
So our first half of our show were the young women who are now entrenched in whether you call it a homemaker or a trad wife.
You hit something on the head, I feel.
Anita, in that video, you said you don't see women in their 40s advocating this lifestyle.
We know that there are, obviously.
But you were making the point of maybe some of the younger women doing this don't understand the long-term damage.
What you see is damage.
Oh, absolutely.
Of course, it's fun to make paper and crayons and do crafts with your kids.
Of course.
But life comes eventually.
That's not sustainable.
Your kids are going to go to school.
Life is going to continue.
And then what are you going to do?
When you build your whole life around toddlers and babies, where does your life go from there?
I don't know.
Productive people will always find something to do.
So usually these are just lazy women.
They're like, what do you mean you don't have anything to do?
There's always something to do.
Like, I'm looking around this room.
It's a mess.
It's my own fault.
I could sort equipment.
I could like, I'm trying to learn the splits right now.
Like, there's always something to do.
You know what I mean?
We're in a trad wife lifestyle for 10 years.
You said you felt like sitting praying.
Yes.
What does that mean?
Like, I procreated with somebody that wasn't worth what I spent.
Like a pet.
You know how you have like a pet hamster, a pet gerbil.
You can't let them out because if they run across the floor, they can get hurt.
You know, they're so tender and fragile, but they're also at such risk.
They're so fragile.
They're so, they need you for everything.
You have to feed them.
You have to do everything.
And that's exactly how you are as a trad wife.
You don't have your own income.
You don't even have your own thoughts.
You can't, you know, it's his choices.
What are his favorite foods?
You can cook his favorite dinner.
What are they?
And so you don't even know what foods you like anymore.
After 10 years, I couldn't even pick out toothpaste at the grocery store.
I would go and think, oh, well, he liked this one.
Which one should I get?
You know, you lose that ability to make decisions.
Jenny, you have photos of when you were married.
You say that you don't recognize yourself in those photos.
There was always a pressure to look perfect and pretty for your husband.
And when the marriage ended.
What on earth?
She used to be hot.
Oh my God.
She hit the wall so hard.
I see why she's pissed.
I see why she's pissed.
Oh my God, to have she's hotter than I ever was.
Oh my, you know, this is a good thing about being a mid, right?
And maybe you guys don't think, I think she's quite pretty, like a seven.
I'd put her at a seven.
But that's the thing.
When you're mid, what opportunity did you really miss?
Do you know what I mean?
Like, you know, what?
It's not like you missed.
But if you look like that, yeah, she's going to be pissed.
And now she comes out looking like that.
Yeah, she's cooked.
And when the marriage ended, you were without an income.
You were penniless.
You had to, I think at one point, even slowly.
Oh, no, this is the other one.
Oh, my gosh.
But yeah, she's fat now.
Car because you left with nothing.
Yeah, and I feel sometimes like I'm the grant choose still Christmas because this trad wife life looks amazing.
Who is paying for this house?
This is a nice looking house.
Probably her ex-husband.
24 years, yeah, ex-husband.
24 years, I had all of those benefits of the amazing part of it, being home with my kids and the sourdough bread, plate apes, and going to the park with my children and they were young and all of those things.
But 24 years into that, my trad wife life ended very abruptly.
And within three days, I couldn't pay for groceries at Trader Joe's.
Within a couple months, I was sleeping in my car.
I couldn't afford to put gas in the car.
I was asking friends, literally, I just had friends giving me $20 bills and going GoFundMe for me so that I could just buy groceries and survive.
Were you right?
Jenny, how did, how did this trend?
Okay, but what do, Doug MPA, can you look up, put in the chat, how much can you make as like a housekeeper?
Because if you were a trad wife or personal chef, I don't know.
Like, aren't there skills daycare worker?
My sister works at a daycare.
Couldn't she do that?
These are, I would think these are transferable skills.
So if you work as a house cleaner, you can make $42,000 a year.
That's not bad.
Working at a daycare, how much can you make at a daycare?
And then a daycare worker full-time.
So they make about $17 an hour.
But if you own a daycare, you can make about $50,000 to $60,000 a year.
Okay.
Yeah.
I'm like, they just always say they're left like high and dry, but it seems like some of those skills would be transferable.
Like my brother's wife, she just went to, she's an engineer full-time and she went to culinary school for fun for like three months.
And here's the thing: she's like, oh, I was left penniless and I couldn't afford it was 24 years later.
Your kids are out of the house.
Like, what?
Yeah, why didn't you work?
You could get a job.
Or even if, even if you had to start over, I mean, you don't have kids to feed.
You know, get a job, get an apartment, move on with your life.
How many guys get kicked out of their house?
They're having to pay for their wife's attorney to divorce them.
What's that meme where it says a lot of men's lives start right here and it's just a studio apartment with a mattress on the ground?
Yeah.
Men are happy to be in that environment, but women, oh my God, I don't have anything left and blah, blah, blah.
You see the difference in mindset?
Yeah, go ahead.
No, nothing.
I agree.
Mentality become a part of the decision you made as a wife early on.
Were you raised in an environment where these roles were clear in this way?
I have the two hashtags.
I have ex-trad and ex-Mormon.
So I was raised in a culture that's very traditional.
You were raised in a Mormon.
Now, okay.
The reason religion tells women to get married young, right? Is because obviously if we don't do that, society crumbles and destabilizes and it's terrible.
If we become horse, but women's natural inclination is just to be complete 304s, obviously.
So what happens is these women, they don't, you know, she was hot back in the day.
She didn't realize the buying power she had, especially in the modern marketplace.
She was like a 20-something-year-old Mormon girl.
You know, she could have had decent buying power.
It basically, she's not happy with what she bought.
Whatever husband she got, I don't know what she, for whatever reason, is not happy with what she bought.
She wishes she used her youth on herself instead of on her family.
I'm not saying that's right, but I'm saying that's you know, womanies for this family.
I was very devoutly Mormon, so I knew from the time I was like five years old when I wrote a little paper in literally kindergarten saying that I wanted to grow up and be an anchor man like my dad.
And then I was told, you're going to grow up and be a mom.
I knew that at some point I was going to get married and have babies.
Also, if you guys could like the video, it'd be good to, I'd love to break 600 likes in here.
Stay home and cook and clean and decorate the house and all those things that I've seen my mom do.
That was really the only option I was offered in life.
What made you decide?
I saw your story in an article.
What made you decide to, I know you're not comfortable with saying anti-trad wife, but what made you decide to ring the alarm from your perspective of the damage this type of gender role assignment trad wife trend can cause?
I think that it's something that we're embarrassed to talk about as women.
And I know that when I was going through it, I was embarrassed to even tell my friends that I didn't have any money, that alimony wasn't being paid, that child support wasn't being collected, that I didn't have, I thought that I could go out and interview and get any job that I wanted to because I had all of these domestic labor skills that I thought could translate into career.
Pearl, pause that real fast.
I just was.
I found this people article.
So this woman got married in 1995 and got divorced a year ago.
So she's literally just, she literally just got out here just now.
Well, she's doing her divorce rebrand.
How long do you think it's going to take it to realize how rough these streets are out here?
She won't ever realize it.
You don't think so?
Nope.
No, women would rather be prostitutes and homeless than be straddled down with a guy they don't like.
Women never regret leaving men ever.
The only reason they go back is to see if they can get resources from you.
Once women are done, we're done.
And we're trained to be like that because historically you were dead.
So we had to go bang the next guy.
Well, what do you think about Tyrese's ex-wife?
Remember that she tried to say that she realized that she messed up.
And if she was around different women at the time, if she would have got away from her mom and her sisters, she never would have left them.
And what do you think about that type of thing?
I don't believe her.
I don't.
I think your actions, you know, because while she was saying that, she was raking him through the coals in divorce court.
And he's like crying because of all the alimony.
Like, come on.
Your actions would, if you really wanted to reconcile, you would, you like, if you really wanted to reconcile, you would go over there.
You would say, I realized I was wrong.
I'm sorry for putting you on alimony.
I'm going to drop the court.
You know, her actions would match it.
But you're crying on a podcast.
Now, you get the fuck out of here.
Like, you're crying.
You want to reconcile with your ex-husband.
And instead of actually, because men are so nice.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, imagine if she was just really nice to him.
She said sorry and was really nice and tried to win him back for like three years.
I'm not saying it would work.
She might have done too much damage, but a lot of men would fold a lot.
I mean, they've never had a girl work for them ever, you know.
Maybe not him because he's famous, but that's my opinion.
What do you think?
Are you there?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I think everything you're saying is 100% correct.
You're right.
You got me.
Yeah.
So it's like, do you know what I mean?
Like, why doesn't she try to reconcile?
You know, you never know what an apology will do.
Like, if you're actually matched, go ahead.
At least she could do.
Because even Kevin Samuels on a couple of his shows said, look, drop the child support.
Go to the court and get rid of the child support as a gesture of goodwill.
And a lot of women, if they won't do it, she could, yeah, Tyrese's wife, she could literally fly out to him, try to have a conversation, you know, drop the lawsuit.
At the minimum, drop the lawsuit.
Because she has two lawyers coming after him.
Yeah, you're right.
I agree with you.
100%.
You got me.
Yeah, like if I, I mean, have you ever had a, I don't know if you've ever had a woman try to reconcile, but your ego is gone if you try to do that.
Like, it's like, okay, what do you need me to do?
Like, that's, that's the type of time when you're sorry and you really want to make something work.
That's the type of time you're on.
You're like front door, back door.
Like front door, back door, whatever you want, baby.
How many meals do you want?
Like, it's on, it's begging time.
What is what is Alpha Mill Strategy saying?
You better get on your knees and start eating ass.
He just thinks that an apology isn't enough.
They start eating ass for a little while.
That's what they got to do.
Yeah.
Yeah, so when you start eating ass, I'll believe you're sorry.
Okay, let me play the rest.
We're getting called back.
My first job was $11 an hour.
And as I walked through it, I looked around and it's like, I know that this other woman's going through this.
And my sister is going through this, and I knew that there were other people, and we were just too embarrassed to say anything about it.
One day, I honestly should point out that you've been sharing your story.
We did have to legally reach out to your husband.
He denies things that have been said on social media platforms.
He says he provided alimony payments, final settlement, and is currently up to date on his child support payments.
But separate from the finances of it, you, as you point out.
Bro, I found an article with her story.
You want to go through it real fast or now?
Sure.
Yes.
What do I always say about the female-friendly version of the story, Pearl?
What's the female-friendly version of the story?
He was abusive, and she was also the victim.
Like, he was abusive, and she's also the hero.
So she overcame the abuse.
Go to the tab.
Click on that.
Why a mom of five gave up.
Wait, hold on.
Okay, why a mom of five gave up her marriage to start over at 44 and now challenges viral trad wives everywhere.
A man is not a plan.
Jeannie George says, Your financial future and your children's financial stability should not be dependent on your husband loving you.
Jeannie Gage has built up a large social media following under the name Life Takes Two because she feels like she's doing her life all over again.
Okay, let me see.
She was pretty attractive back in the day.
I see why she's pissed.
At 44, she says she opted out of a more traditional, religious, conservative world.
She had built for herself as a wife and a mom of five and had to start over.
Now, Gage, 50 of Tuscan, Arizona, speaks openly about her experience before and after stopping being a self-described trad wife.
For 24 years, I was under stress.
Gage tells people.
Only in hindsight, can I say that raising five babies under the age of 10, my hair falling out from my anxiety, but on the outside, it looked so good.
Gage is outspoken against the traditional lifestyle that has become increasingly popular and controversial on social media platforms, featuring women in domestic settings, embracing the homemaker label, right down to milling their own wheat for bread.
Supporters say trad wife content just expresses a particular set of conservative values and is not unlike so many social media posts about cooking and parenting.
And many observers have noted some popular influencers associated with the trend have been clear about how they keep an equal partnership with their spouses regardless of how it looks.
My kids were all beautiful.
Oh, wait, here's a little thing of her talking.
Let's see.
Can you imagine your mom's just.
I drove to the grocery store.
I need to grab some milk and bread and a couple things, flipped open the.
Here, wait, hold up.
I'm going to go full screen.
Can you imagine your mom's just like talking about your dad on social media?
I know that does happen on Facebook and stuff, but I drove to the grocery store at this video by saying that I'm not asking for money and I'm not asking for sympathy.
What I'm asking for is if you are a young 14, 16, 21-year-old girl, listen up.
I drove to the grocery store.
I need to grab some milk and bread and a couple things, flipped open the pink app on my phone.
And I've been sitting in my car crying ever since because I never have enough money.
And why do I never have enough money?
Translation.
Because I spend too much.
If she's crying, she's lying.
Yeah.
Because when I was a 19-year-old girl, I fell in love.
My Mormon faith told me that I was supposed to be a stay-at-home mom.
I got married.
I started having babies.
I dropped out of college.
I never had a career.
My only jobs that I ever had in life were a waitress at the Olive Garden and managing a pretzel maker in a mall.
Oh, my first couple years of marriage, I decided that I wanted to be an entrepreneur, so I bought a windshield business.
I was 20.
And my Mormon stake president reminded me that women weren't supposed to work, so I quit my own business, handed it over to my husband, took my name off of it.
I would work our family business throughout the next 24 years of my marriage, but I never got paid.
I didn't have a salary.
My name wasn't on it.
I literally worked for room and board.
That's it.
I would eventually.
So translation.
I took a bad deal in hindsight, right?
I'm not saying just subjectively, like if you're doing, you could argue that's not a favorable deal, and I'm upset.
And two, I probably didn't do as good of a job as I thought.
I probably am giving, my husband probably did most of it.
Also, launch a custom home building company with my uncle as the architect and my friends as the builder, my designs, my realtor.
But again, because my husband was the man, his name was on all of the projects.
His name was on the business.
I remember one of the last custom homes that I built, we sold it and made about a $260,000 profit.
That money all went into his bank account.
I didn't even have a bank account.
I should have said that in the beginning.
I never had a bank account.
He would give me little envelopes of cash to go grocery shopping with.
Anyway, that house sells, the money goes in the bank.
I just asked if I could buy myself a piano with the money.
I had worked on building that house for two years.
All of the money went into his bank account.
Nothing was under my name.
I got a piano and I got a free house to live in.
And I got groceries.
So I found myself divorced at age 44, just five years ago, and within just a few months, I was living in my car.
Well, he made about a quarter million dollars.
He would eventually quit that job so that he wouldn't have to pay alimony child support.
He has only paid alimony one time ever in the five years since we've been divorced once ever.
Right after my divorce, I remember being really confident about my ability to get a job.
So I put together a resume.
I remember one of the first interviews that I had.
This management position for a windshield company, similar to the one that we had run.
And the man actually laughing as he was interviewing me, like he was really sympathetic.
He wasn't being well, and so you're going to just blame it on that.
But he was laughing.
And he's like, so let me get this straight.
You helped manage your family windshield business with your husband, but you were mostly a stay-at-home mom.
And all you did was like the marketing and the hiring and firing and some of the strategy for the business.
But it became really apparent that I needed so many more skills to have any type of management job.
I couldn't even like work the basic computers.
Well, then go manage a daycare.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like women will cry and men will just figure out a different solution.
If you have the skills, you'll figure it out.
He told me in the interview, please don't apply for any more jobs like this.
You are not qualified at all.
You're not capable of doing this unless you go back to school and get your degree or get some different experience.
And so I ended up, my first job after my divorce was $11 an hour, four hours a day, working as translation.
I was hoping my husband would pay for my lifestyle the rest of my life while I bang other dudes.
And it's not working out the way that I thought.
Teacher in an elementary school.
I made $44 a day.
For 24 years, I lived in million-dollar homes.
I vacationed all over the world.
I spent my summers in home.
Oh, my God.
Why would you give that up?
That's what I'm saying.
What did she leave for?
Like, if you're going to give that up, how do I put it?
Do you know who made sense to leave her husband?
Sarah Palin.
She upgraded to a baseball player.
And I'm not saying that's right, but I'm saying like that kind of makes sense because she was still in shape.
She's still kind of hot, you know.
Like there's going to be a buyer there.
Who is going to buy this?
She's fat.
Like if you're going to divorce your husband, do it in shape.
Like I'm not saying that you should, but like if we want to go best outcomes here, why would you not be in shape?
You know what I mean?
Or even worse than that, Pearl, she's committing a cardinal sin right now.
What is she doing?
Talking on social media.
She's airing out her business with her ex on social media.
If she had those wifey skills and she kept her mouth shut, she could have found another guy.
Yeah, that's true.
That's her sense it.
There are plenty of, especially she's in, she, she's turned 50.
She can find a guy who's 60, 65, has as much money, if not more than her.
She could have pulled a Lauren Sanchez if she were in decent shape and didn't do this.
Because this is the worst thing a woman can do on the way out is this right here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I could buy myself $500 jeans, diamond tennis bracelets.
We had boats in our Vs and whatever I wanted.
And it never bothered me once that my financial security was dependent on that man being in love with me.
I never realized that him liking me or not liking me or finding me sexy or attractive or interesting determined whether or not my children could eat.
Whether or not I could buy myself a fucking chug of milk and a loaf of bread.
So I had my fifth surgery in two years, two weeks ago, and I'm supposed to be in bed resting and I can't because I worked seven days a week since my divorce five years ago, which is why I'm covered in paint and looking like crap.
We actually have a wow.
She should have stayed married.
That cannot be a better way to live.
Will she try to reconcile?
No.
40 a weekend here.
You know what I mean?
Like, women will say they want to reconcile, but all they'll do is send a text.
You know what I mean?
All they'll do is send a message like I miss you.
If you really wanted to reconcile, you'd start eating ass.
Like we said.
Do you know what I mean?
Like we would, like, that's what I mean.
Like, cause a lot of times, guys, you know, they'll be like, women always come back and they do, but like, do they?
Like, do they come in like really trying to win it?
Or is it just, can I still get attention from you?
Do you know what I mean?
It's like, I don't know.
It's like, she really needs to get on her knees, beg.
Beg.
What would you recommend, Doug MPA, if your ex-wife came back?
And I know this is unlikely.
Is there a world, what would she have to do to get you back that you would believe her?
It wouldn't happen.
The way that things ended between her and I, no.
And the behavior that she showed isn't the type that'll go away.
Like, she's going to be doing that because I think she's remarried now.
She's going to be doing that to the same guy, but he's just willing to deal with it.
And I wasn't.
So there's no scenario.
No way.
You know what?
I asked Nuke if that's like exhausting.
Like when you watch women be terrible people and still win.
And he told me that he said no, because you know that they're just never going to be happy people.
And they're just going to keep on with their pattern.
So you don't care.
You're going to meet people where they may screw you over or do something to you, but it's hard to even be mad at them because they have to live their life and be themselves.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, that's what he said.
Was like, yeah, like they're just gonna, they probably can and will get a better guy, but I don't care because like you are who you are, you know.
Yep, I agree with them 100%.
Yeah, your son, and since my partner isn't working, he's working on furniture flip.
Okay, I'm gonna, I'm done with this TikTok.
I'm gonna go back to the article.
Just real quick, before you get to the part of the article, why do you think she left her husband?
Try and guess.
Is it gonna be abuse?
No, but like, well, that's what she'd say.
Um, she needed to find herself.
He was cheating.
Oh, we'll get to it.
Okay.
My kids were all beautiful and accomplished, and it looked like they were the perfect life.
Instead of saying, this isn't working, look how beautiful this is.
I was gaslighting myself.
At an early age, the Arizona native took a caregiving role for her younger siblings.
She says, She says, being a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints put added pressure on her to marry early and bear a large family.
And being selected for all eternity until her marriage vows to her ex-husband, Jason Greed, added an extra layer to their relationship.
Gage says a mutual friend set them up on a blind date, telling her, we have a returned missionary friend you should marry.
That date was in June, and on their 11th date, within six weeks of meeting, George says she and Green were married at a temple in Portland, Oregon on July 28th, 1995.
After a few months, I knew I had made a mistake.
We never wait.
Although Gage believes it's up to the individual woman to decide what is right for her, she also believes that they need to walk into it with their eyes wide open.
Oh, look how cute they are.
She was, I don't know why.
I think she was so pretty.
Do you think, what would you rate her?
I don't know what it is about this look.
I think this is just my type in like, I'm straight, but like my type in women is like this blonde.
Or maybe it's like she just has like a good look.
Like I'd give her a seven.
What would you say?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was about to say a seven.
Yeah.
And then, you know, like she was Mormon, so odds are she was a virgin when she got married and stuff like that.
So the kind of Mormon being a virgin thing is kind of hot too.
Yeah.
When she was young.
Yeah, well, it didn't, it didn't help.
You know, they have a whole subgenre of corn of like of like Mormon stuff.
Where people dress like Mormons and act like Mormons.
Oh my gosh.
You're going to ask me how I know.
Oh my gosh.
The Mormon girls, huh?
I was probably not designed to be a Mormon stay-at-home mom, but she says with a quick laugh.
My upbringing was in many ways was a housewife immersion program designed to prepare me for nothing but wifehood.
After high school, she attended Birmingham Young University, Idaho, a private college run by the church in Rexburg, which she earned an associate's degree.
But she says she quickly discovered her plans to continue her education were derailed by her early marriage and growing young family.
Gage says that she and Green lived in a large home, had a garage full of cars and nice vacations, but on the inside, she was struggling for years and didn't realize it.
Green told, or Green, for his part, told people they began having problems in their marriage early on, and by the seventh year, the damage was done.
Gage says she pondered leaving the marriage for years, but didn't know how she could manage it.
Gage then says she discovered Green had been cheating on her for years.
She says she tried for years to work things out and thought perhaps the cheating was done.
Then she says she discovered he had done it again.
On October 2018, despite having all three children at home, Gage says she knew it was time to walk away, but it came at a tremendous cost to her.
She says she tried to kill herself.
I doubt it.
I survived suicide, barely, barely.
They saved me, but I was in a coma for 10 days and have a brain injury.
Okay, if there's a hospital visit, I'll believe it.
But this story just seems okay.
This is the female-friendly version of the story.
She's talking about her struggle.
She probably took some, she probably took some extra Advil and like overexaggerated and like banged her head and was inside of like that.
Leaving the church just broke me.
It was very out of character.
And then she recalls one day I rehab a man sat next to me and said, if I had ever heard Will Smith's brick-by-brick speech, it's a well-known advice that the actor has given before.
You don't set out to build a brick wall.
You don't just start there.
Smith had said, I'm going to lay out this brick as perfectly as the brick can be laid.
And then you can do that every day and soon you have a wall.
And so basically, she thought that she could probably build what her husband built, and then she couldn't.
Okay, this is the husband, I'm guessing.
Oh my gosh, he's attractive, too.
That's a good-looking guy.
You think he's a good-looking guy?
I'd say he's good-looking.
Yeah.
I think he's tall.
What are you doing, bitch?
Of course, he's going to cheat on you.
There's no way she's going to be able to get a guy like him ever.
No.
And I was mistaken.
She's been out here for four years.
She's 50.
By the time she's 55, she's going to be begging to get back with her husband or wish that she would have stayed in her marriage because there ain't nothing out here for her.
What'd Kevin Samuel say?
All you married women, there's nothing out here for you.
Nothing.
All there is is trauma and dick.
Yeah, not all of you are Lauren Sanchez, especially if you look like this.
All right, Laura, listen to her.
Don't recognize the woman that was in the photos in the early part of your marriage.
And Antincia, you've been very vocal about the social media content.
You say it's selling a dream to young girls that doesn't exist.
I want to quickly play one of your TikToks.
Let's take a look.
The women that are telling you the trad wife play is amazing are the little 22-year-old, 24-year-old girls that just got in it themselves.
I am literally just trying to be dead ass honest.
Being a trad wife really sucks.
You know, I understand perspective matters.
Sure.
Journey matters.
Sure.
Do you, but some of these people who are over the age of 40 feel that this is the life that worked for them.
Sure.
That this makes them happy.
This allows them to be home with their children and be present.
I can tell you're conflicted because it's a tough, I mean, you're a tough talker.
I mean, it is beautiful to stay home with your kids, and it is beautiful to raise your kids.
But speaking of the women who are, you know, spent 20-something years being a trad wife, and they do advocate for it.
I think they're speaking from a place of, I don't want to admit that the last 20 years were miserable and I don't have too much to go to the end, so I'm just going to pretend it's been great.
You know what I mean?
I don't think, I think everybody was born as a dynamic human.
You have all these qualities and things to give to the world.
And then to muscle that so that you could make somebody's favorite dinner and fold their laundry.
Just, I mean, you have so much more to give.
And when you gate, when you didn't search that within and bring that out after 20 years, you're not going to say, oh man, I was so wrong.
So she, there's some dream she had that probably wouldn't have panned out that she felt like she could have did.
And she blames her husband instead of like her lack of talent and skills.
And imagine being her children.
Yeah, I know.
Oh my gosh.
She's saying that being a mother to her children was a waste of time.
Oh, these women don't care.
Oh my God.
Once again, this is the worst thing modern women do right here.
I think I did a panel with this girl on like Jubilee.
I think she was on one of the panels.
I did.
I'm almost going to be dead.
You're going to say, no, it was amazing and I love it.
We're just getting started here, coming up.
The breaking point that led both Jenny and Anitia to walk away.
And why they think right now, as I said, if you go on social media, the Trad Wife hashtag is exploding.
Why is it so popular if it's so bad?
That's next.
All right.
Carl, okay.
Why do you think that this whole trad wife thing is catching on?
It's becoming popular.
Because women can get attention for it.
Well, yeah, that's number one.
I just think that, well, I, okay.
I think feminists have rewritten history.
They tried to say, well, all women could do was stay in the home and raise children when they forgot to say that how we got here was men sacrificing their mental, emotional, physical, spiritual health for the sake of God, country, community, family.
Men used to work long, hard hours, six days a week in physically laborious jobs.
And now that women want to come out into the workforce when 77% of the economy is services, right?
And so feminists have romanticized working.
Women who didn't have to work romanticized working.
So now all their daughters have been out here working and they realize, man, this sucks.
So you have women doing this hashtag trad wife thing, but they're not.
I don't even think so.
Sorry.
No.
Oh, you didn't think so?
No.
I mean, most of it's like these young girls just trying to get clout off of it.
Like, if they really wanted to be a trad wife, they'd just do it.
Like, they can't help but like do it for social media.
I'll concede to that.
I'll concede to it.
Yeah.
I mean, that's just, but I understand your point of view.
Like, I think that sounds nice, but I just don't see women in mass having any regrets or doing it.
I think they'll be hookers before they be trad wives.
They could be hookers and then repent later on, and the church will welcome them in.
Anitza Templeton and Jenny Gage, both women on a mission, you might say, to show the true realities behind the Trad Wife lifestyle trending on social media.
Jenny, the content that we're seeing right now, we had our beautiful guests on in the first segment, and they were saying, you know, this content is really to erase the fear of showing your life.
What influence do you think these videos are having?
I know they have that influence because I have you want to read the super chats.
Is it on the I didn't see any on the oh, here we go.
Eric, the issue is there's a real economy and a female economy.
All this behavior is propagated by enabled women selling useless products to other women, selling an image, selling an image, what they do matters and is useful.
Real economy doesn't need them.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, I mean, that's what you get on TikTok.
A lot of women make money selling useless stuff.
Is that the only one?
I'm on my phone.
I think that there are so Eric Perez had a $20 one.
Did you read the $5 one from Eric Perez?
I think I did, but you can read it again.
He says, he says, I respect pro's honesty.
Women would rather be a prostitute or homeless than be with a man they don't want to want to them.
That's slavery.
And then Steve M, I have a feet pick, but can I post it?
No, you can't.
And then Steve says, next caller.
And then did you read?
Oh, you read that one already?
Yeah, cool.
That's it.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah, look, and I try to be honest, guys.
I don't want to sugarcoat anything.
Because a lot of times I just see this.
It's like a lot of times we say what we want to be true.
And I've even done this before, but it's like women will pick whoredom over being with a guy they don't like.
They will.
Sorry.
Sorry if that's your ex-wife.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Comments on my videos all the time about how that they want to become trad wives too.
Like, this is what a lot of women feel is the thing to do right now.
And the problem is they don't give the warnings.
Like, they aren't showing the risk.
They aren't showing what could happen on the other side and what it looks like to not have anything should that romantic relationship fail.
I know in the interview that I saw that you did, I read, you said, I was, I'm more broken than I ever imagined being, but I'm happier than ever.
That was after leaving the marriage.
Yeah, because now she can get any benefit to a traditional.
Remember, now she can get banged out by alpha chads.
And you might think, what alpha chad's going to bang her?
Someone will do it.
Probably some 20-something-year-old Tyrone is probably banging her, like digging her out right now.
Yep.
And they'll be happier doing that.
So sorry, guys.
No, gender relationship.
Looking back at, I know it's a challenging question to ask you, but is there any benefit to it?
There are definitely benefits.
Spending time with your children, and you kind of self-actualize with your home and take core and things like that.
But I don't, I think to me, it's like riding in a car without a seatbelt.
Like, maybe it's great to have windows down and the winds in your hair, but if you're in that car accident, you're going to want your seatbelt on.
So I don't advocate on my social medias that people completely don't get married, don't have children, don't take sourdough bread.
And if you feel like those traditional gender rules work for you, embrace that.
But do it with your seatbelt on.
And there are ways to do it.
Cool.
All right.
Well, these are just women that took they, these are women, okay, that cut deals that they didn't want.
And they traded their youth and their fertility to a guy that I don't even, I feel bad saying like to a beta, a guy they didn't like that much, because we don't even like ourselves.
So when I say this, guys, I want you to know this is how the women view you.
This is how the women like this is through our lens.
And I just want you to know: we hate ourselves, we hate each other.
We can't help that we hate you too.
So don't take that personal.
If your ex-wife ended up not liking you that much, it's not you.
It's it really is us.
You know what I mean?
Doug MPA, you got any final thoughts?
Okay.
If for the four women listening to this, think about this.
You have the opportunity to become a trad wife or a modern woman.
Okay.
Would you rather spend 20, would you rather spend 18 years?
So let's say you have your first kid on the first day that you become a trad wife or you go into your career and then 18 years later, you have to make a change to flip to the other way.
Would you rather spend 18 years at home and then start and raise your kids and then start a career?
Or would you spend 18 years in a job that doesn't care about you and then try to have kids to freaking IVF later on?
Try and find a man 18 years later.
They're going to rather do the first one or the second one.
Yeah.
No, well, it's because then they win.
They get to use their youth on themselves.
You got it.
So I'm such a doomer.
I'd recommend at least, because I honestly believe it's better to have loved and lost and to have never loved at all.
And, you know, maybe not for guys, but women, because women have this fear of missing out on everything.
Even stuff that they say is toxic and don't be.
Women still want to get married, even though women hate men but still want men.
Women hate marriage but still want to get married.
That's a great way to put it.
Yeah.
Women hate children, although they still have them.
So it's like, I think a woman should at least see if the trad wife, because honestly, ladies, why go out there and fight in the world of men if you can find the right guy that'll just give you the world?
So anyway, so then they have to listen to his rules.
To the four ladies watching this, try being a trad wife first.
Yeah, you should try.
And Lil Tay should join OnlyFans.
All right.
Thank you, Doug MPA, so much for your help this evening.
And you made the show more interesting with Bryson.
So thanks for coming on.
I hope he doesn't hate me.
No, he doesn't hate me.
He won't hate you.
He's a good guy.
Yeah.
All right, guys.
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