Pearl Daily’s episode dissects conservative frustration over abortion, with Doug MPA arguing women’s voting dominance makes pro-life efforts futile—citing Texas’s minimal birth rate rise post-bans and Planned Parenthood’s eugenicist legacy. Callers like Dustin propose extreme measures (e.g., tattooing "total bitches" on women) while others debate enforcement risks, coercion claims, and racial dynamics, with Jana linking abortion to societal "letdowns" like contraception failures. Anya’s pro-choice stance highlights zygote moral ambiguity, while Gabe demands logical justifications from opponents. Ultimately, the discussion reveals a conservative split: some see abortion as an unwinnable cultural war, others blame women’s autonomy and demand systemic shifts, questioning whether pro-life activism is performative or principled. [Automatically generated summary]
So, this is flip going viral online of a dozen women being asked the following question.
Do we need men?
Most answered very quickly: no, because men are useless.
This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
Most young men are single.
Most young women are not.
Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
It's a different world now.
Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
The future is female.
Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
You've kind of got the Trad CON versus Red Pill thing.
This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
Oh, you need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
Marriage is a bond, and it's a sacred bond.
It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
Now, many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
It's Hannah Pearl Davis, or just pearly things.
One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
Gee, what could go wrong there?
74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
You need no evidence.
When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for, and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
I interviewed them on the other side.
I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
How much did you spend trying to get him back?
The legal fees alone was about 200,000.
Before you know it, you're homeless.
You're literally just thrown out onto the street.
We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
Wives are taught to leave their husbands, and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
Family is the foundation of society.
Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.
Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.
We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
We tell them to put off family in a marriage.
You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
Oh, free shreds, have an abortion.
What?
You're evil.
I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
Like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
It's self-sabotage.
And that's the thing.
Like women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
This is not about happiness.
The most important thing is the children.
And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings leave when I feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids.
This myth that we live in an age of male privilege.
What is my male privilege?
They think, well, men have all the rights.
They have all the power.
Privilege, patriarchal system that we have.
Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
I have no friends, no wife, and no social act.
Men are alone in this situation.
Men are homeless.
Men are thinking about eating guns.
I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong.
How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
Women are helplessly dependent upon men.
The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, to alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.
Culture is telling men, you are no good.
You got to get your act together.
I think men have failed themselves.
What kind of a man are you?
What kind of a woman are you going to attract?
If men are in trouble, so are women.
Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man.
500K, 500, 200K, 300K, 200K.
Am I crazy?
Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
So, you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
Women.
I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
I'm over it.
When is it going to be my turn?
Where are we meeting the men that don't?
I can't keep having these dang conversations.
The only simp here is you, Pearl.
You sent for women.
I think you sent for women.
She's a provocateur.
She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this.
It's already happening.
It's just not out in the open yet.
Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.
The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
We don't want a population decline and our economy goes into decline.
Civilization will crumble.
The American story does not end well.
This is an existential crisis failing young men.
What up, guys?
What up, guys?
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.
I'm your host, Pearl.
And if you want to donate to our divorce documentary, the link is the second link in the description.
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So today we are talking about a conversation I had with Lila Rose a couple of weeks ago.
We talked about abortion.
And I've said it many times on my channel that nothing is going to stop modern women from getting abortions.
Nothing.
And am I pro-life?
The answer is yes.
Do I wish abortion was illegal?
The answer is yes.
But can anything be done about abortions in my lifetime?
No.
I don't see it happening.
Many people call me a doomer on this subject because that is the opinion I have.
But I think that I am just being realistic.
Getting Roe versus Wade overturned was seen as a huge victory by conservatives.
We won, they said.
But if you look at the stats, Roe, but if you look at the stats, women are still getting abortions at steady rates.
Plan B use has gone up and the birth rate is still going down.
And I want to say, guys, I haven't always felt this way.
I think I'm going to bring up a video I just saw on the Audacity Network.
I used to argue on this topic.
I really did.
I want to show you guys a debate I did about like two years ago now.
Hold up.
Let me see if I can pull this up.
But, you know, let me just show you.
Two years of this.
I got exhausted.
By the way, all my old content is on the website, but I had to delete a lot of it.
So I literally went on the streets of London.
And I, and by the way, guys, I did this by myself.
All these people that do street interviews with camera crews, I took a tripod in the streets of London with a sign that said abortion is a cop-out.
You could say a lot of things about me, but I did not give a shit.
I like to talk to people that disagree with me.
Oh, yeah.
So it's just a civil conversation.
No, I'm not.
I'm really not.
I believe it's a cop-out for poor decisions.
And the reason being is, so there are exceptions to every rule, but less than 1% of abortions are for in the case of grape.
We say grape on YouTube.
So I'm not talking about the 1% of cases.
I'm talking about the majority.
The reason I think this is because 40% of women that get an abortion have had two or more abortions.
So to me, it's saying you're not being responsible at this point.
And they're not.
Now, look at their faces.
They can't fathom.
To me, it's like two plus two equals four.
You're pretty irresponsible if you're getting abortions all the time.
Tracking the 60%.
I had to argue this point so many percent to see how many get abort.
Do you think these women are going to stop killing their kids?
Really, truly.
Abortions in the future.
To me, it's you didn't make a good decision.
When it first happens or something like that, when there's a woman who's got single kids and she's, he's going to make a wealth gap.
That's the thing in America.
That's the thing.
So with the people with like, well, they're rich, aren't they?
They're just going to get it done illegally, are they not?
That's a really poor people.
Do you know what I mean?
That's a really big misconception.
Okay.
So only 8% of women below the poverty line get abortions.
One out of three women that make $47,000 per year actually are getting an abortion.
On top of that, in the U.S., Planned Parenthood, which is the number one provider of abortions, it's a racist organization started by a eugenicist.
So she referred to black people as weeds.
I just think for it to be illegal is complete regression in society.
Now, this isn't the only one I did.
I did so many of these guys.
It is a lost cause.
And by the way, if you want to watch the full thing, it's on my website.
So being that I was in the UK then, recently there has been some news in the UK.
The UK government banned women from being prosecuted for late-term abortion.
So it was already legal up to six months in the UK.
Now women can literally kill their kid the day before they give birth and not be prosecuted.
For every one small victory that conservatives get, liberals find a way to get their ground back.
Women find a way to get their ground back.
And I've been saying for a while that abortion just, it's not the hill for us to die on.
There are bigger issues that we can actually change.
Look at what Trump is doing with illegals.
The real change that conserves, that's real change that conservatives can get behind.
Look at what Republicans are doing to cut out all of these social programs like food stamps.
That's real change that conservatives can get behind.
We have to face the fact that abortion is a reality.
And all of us conservatives should give up.
Yeah.
Give up.
Now, I really had to do this, in my opinion, for my mental health.
Let me.
For obtaining these pills, forged them.
All right.
So this is them talking about the extreme abortion law change in the UK.
He got his friend's girlfriend to phone up and pretend to be pregnant.
He obtained the pills.
He spiked his girlfriend's drink with the pills, ended her pregnancy against her will.
Back in the studio in a major shake-up of abortion laws, women could be spared prosecution for terminating a pregnancy after 24 weeks in England.
I think women would kill their kids up to like five if they could.
And Wales.
What is concerned that an increasing number of women are being investigated by the police for illegally ending their pregnancies?
So let's talk now to TGB Presenter, of course, Miriam Case.
You feel very strongly about this, Miriam, don't you?
Currently, anybody can access an abortion even up to 40 weeks with the right medical condition and with the okay of two doctors.
And that means you are not criminalized.
But how would this change that system?
Yeah, so at the moment, the main abortion law, if you like, the time limit is 24 weeks.
So with the agreement of two doctors, a woman can end a pregnancy for essentially any reason up until 24 weeks.
Now, that's a pregnancy up to 40 weeks.
Yes, in certain circumstances, for example, if there's a disability or certain extenuating circumstances.
But importantly, that termination has to be done by doctors or by medics.
You can't do it yourself.
And there are really good reasons for that, which is basically to safeguard women because DIY abortions are obviously very dangerous.
And the last thing we want is complications.
And one of the reasons that we've seen an increase in prosecutions of women who are having illegal abortions, which is only small, by the way, there's been six actually since 2022.
There's not hundreds, as some of the proponents have claimed, is that during COVID, the government suspended face-to-face appointments.
Someone in the chat said Planned Parenthood should be a domestic terrorist organization.
Well, a lot of things should be.
I should be a millionaire.
Doesn't make it true, right?
I don't see it happening.
I give up.
You women win.
You do.
Kill your kids.
I don't care.
I don't.
Appointments in abortion clinics, which meant that women could phone up to get abortion pills over the phone and then have them posted out, rather than going to a clinic, checking that they are under 10 weeks, which is the legal limit for these pills, and then taking them on the premises to make sure that they're safe.
So in the first 18 months after that pills by post regime was introduced, 10,000 women were hospitalized.
They said abortion harms both the mother and the kid.
No, not really.
It really harms the kid.
Why are we trying to make this about the mother?
Are there medical side effects?
Sure.
But there's side effects for raising a kid you don't like, too.
And women wait, women always do what's in their self-interest.
So if the women are doing it, it's because they get a benefit out of doing it.
With complications.
And actually, all across the country.
In the UK, in the UK, and all the prosecutions we've seen since then, the six, have been a result of people obtaining the pills by post after the 10-week limit for those.
Leave the babies alone.
Oh, yeah, like I can stop these hoes.
You guys are nuts if you think I have any say over this.
And so that had a material effect on the woman's health.
I've always voted Republican, always.
You could look up my voting history.
Always voted Republican.
What else can I do?
Obviously, it ends the life of the child.
And what we've got to remember is it's not just women who can procure these pills when there's no face-to-face appointment.
And earlier this year, a man called Stuart Warby was sent to prison for obtaining these pills forgivenessly.
He got his friend's girlfriend to phone up and pretend to be pregnant.
He obtained the pills.
He spiked his girlfriend's drink with the pills, ended her pregnancy against her will.
Using the internet without a VPN, a virtual private network, is a bit like taking to the road without car insurance.
All it takes is one unlucky moment to cost you a lot of cash.
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Oh, wait.
Sorry, guys.
I'm supposed to.
There we go.
He's back.
Is to protect women.
So if you decriminalize abortion to birth and you effectively make it legal to end the life of a baby up until full term, what we will see is an increase in the number of dangerous abortions, an increase in the number of coerced abortions.
Don't follow the gospel of God okay, number one.
Number one, I've never had an abortion.
I've never done it.
I don't get any brownie.
I've never done it, it's not my fault.
These women don't know how to do.
And number two, what you follow the gospel of God perfectly, Kurt truly.
Come on abortions.
And that's exactly what they have seen in places like New Zealand and Victoria Australia.
I mean, in Victoria Australia, one hospital has seen a 600% increase in late-term abortions after decriminalization and, very sadly, a number of those babies are born alive from a failed abortion and then die.
Forgive my ignorance here.
The woman who does it Diy.
Is it always going to be with pills?
Well, that it's what's happening at the moment, because these same MPS who are pushing for the decriminalization are the same ones that pushed for pills by post.
Yeah, now we're getting abortion pills in the mail.
It's over.
And the reason i'm saying this, it is not because I want this to be true, it is because I don't want to sell hope and I want to be honest with the audience and say, the rest of our lives, we can expect this to get worse.
Because if I was up here, if I did what all these other stupid influencers do where, like the Lila Roses that she's going to sell you hope.
And then I ask her, when, when is your plan to get this banned?
And it's, it's always a never to be made permanent.
And one mp, dr Camoline Johnson at the time she's a pediatrician warned that this would be a safeguarding disaster, because how can you tell if it's a child that's being raped?
How can you tell if it's a child that's being abused, or a woman that's being coerced into abortion, or a woman that's well past the 10-week limit if you don't have a face?
So isn't the problem therefore, to stop the pills by post as opposed to I?
I wouldn't want to see any woman criminalized for having to go through an abortion, because I don't think it's a choice that any woman takes lightly.
And if those women who do take it lightly, it is a tiny, vanishing percentage of the women who do.
But maybe yeah, these you guys get the idea.
You can't, you can't take this away from these hoes.
Okay, so i'm going to read the BBC article.
All right, the MPS vote to decriminalize abortion for women in England and Wales.
MPS have voted to change abortion legislation legislation to stop women in England and Wales being prosecuted for ending their pregnancy.
This landslide vote to decriminalize the procedure is the biggest change to abortion laws in England and Wales for nearly 60 years.
Women who terminate their pregnancy outside the rules, for example after 24 weeks, will no longer be investigated by the police.
The law will still penalize anyone who assists a woman, including medical professionals, in getting abortions outside of the current legal framework.
So the doctors can go to jail now, but not the women, of course.
Labor mp Tonia Antoniozzi put forward the amendment to the crime and policing bill, which was passed by a majority of the 242 votes.
As an issue of conscience, MPs were allowed to vote according to their personal beliefs.
The current law in England and Wales states that abortion is illegal but allowed up to the first 24 weeks of pregnancy and beyond the certain certain circumstances, such as if the woman's life is in danger.
Women can take medication at home to terminate their pregnancies under 10 weeks.
Setting out her arguments in Parliament, the government and the Gower MP flagged that nearly 99% of abortions before a pregnancy reached 20 weeks, leaving just 1% of women in desperate circumstances.
Antoniazzi highlighted a serious number of cases where women have been arrested for illegal abortion offenses, such as Nicola Packer, who was taken from the hospital to a police cell after delivering a stillborn baby at home after taking prescribed abortion medication.
She was around 26 weeks pregnant.
She told jurors during her trial, which came after more than four years of police investigation, that she did not realize she had been pregnant for more than 10 weeks.
Antonia, like, how do you not notice two missed periods?
God, these women are just dumb.
Antoniozzi urged MPs to support her amendment to recognize these women need care, support, and not criminalization.
Each one of these cases is a travesty enabled by our outdated abortion laws, she said.
Organically passed by an all-male parliament elected by men alone, the Victorian law is increasingly used against vulnerable women and girls.
The Antoniozzi amendment won the support from 379 MPs with 137 against.
The new clause will not change any law regarding the provision of abortion services within the healthcare setting, including but not limited to the time limit, telemedicine, the grounds for abortion, or the requirement for two doctors' approvals.
It was all backed by the main abortion providers as well as 180 MPs from across the commons and 50 organizations, including the Royal College of Obstetricians and gynecologists.
Labor MP Stella Creasy had put forward a second amendment urging MPs to go further than Antoniazzi's proposing to ditch any abortion-related clauses of the 1861 Offenses Against the Person Act, which outlaws abortion and enshrines abortion access as a human right.
Casey asks why MPs would want to retain outdated laws in any shape or form rather than learning what the best practice is around the world for all of our constituents.
Casey's proposed amendment was publicly backed by 108 MPs before the debate, but abortion providers, including the British Pregnancy Advisory Service, said the amendment was not the right way to achieve generational change, and it did not go to a vote.
Conservatives' shadow health minister Dr. Caroline Johnson put forward a third amendment aimed at stopping pills by post-abortions by requiring a pregnant woman to have an in-person consultation before prescribed medication to terminate her pregnancy.
The Johnson amendment was defeated with 379 MPs voting against and 117 voting for.
RCOG President Prof Ranke Thakur welcomed the decision to accept the Antoniozzi amendment and reject Johnson's as a victory for women for their essential reproductive rights.
She said, this sends a powerful signal that women's rights and autonomy matter.
The college has been campaigning to see this achieved for many years, and the decision reflects the voices of over 50 medical, legal, and public health organizations.
So, again, now all the people getting into medicine are going to have to have this opinion, or it's going to hinder their career.
Okay, so another L. If you remember, a short time ago, I was in a debate with a pro-lifer and influencer, Lila Rose.
I told her in a lot of words that her pro-life crusade was a waste of time.
And some were wondering why at the time I had this attitude.
And it's stories like this that justify my position.
Let's revisit some of my conversation with Lila Rose after looking at this new law.
Quickly.
Okay, let's see, 25 minutes.
Let's see.
So 2509.
Okay.
They don't have a big marketing budget the way that Planned Parenthood does.
Plan Parent has like hundreds of millions of dollars.
You don't have to convince me that pro-life is like a good or abortions.
I think what I'm doing, Carl, is I don't want to discourage people from joining the pro-life movement.
And I would say, I think we need more professional people in the pro-life.
Yeah, because you're getting paid $180,000 a year.
Of course, you want to take people's money.
Pro-life movement who are advancing the cause.
Planned Parenthood has a tremendous amount of money that they're investing professionally in developing the pro-abortion lobby.
So I would argue we need actually more resources in the pro-life movement.
We need more people who are professionally engaged in the pro-life movement.
Do you see my, my, when I start looking like this?
I'm like, can you stop nagging?
Oh, stop nagging me, please, God.
In order to advance the cause of the unborn.
Right, but the challenge is we see this.
Abortion abolition and changing hearts and the challenge is most people see this as a losing cause.
Like nobody really sees the pro-life movement as having really won much in the past 50 years.
And I won't say, wait, wait, I'm going to, I would say, like, bitch, I just let you monologue.
Sorry, I'm going to get so annoyed.
I just let you monologue.
Can you let me go?
I cannot stay.
Like, I get so irritated because sometimes on these shows, I'm just having to have a real conversation.
And these people that are like paid talking heads will just have all of this historical stuff and like monologues.
And I'm just like, I just want to have like an honest, a real conversation about this.
A lot of people that hypothetically could or would be, you know, when you say like, oh, it'll maybe be banned in our life.
I do believe it'll be banned in our lifetime.
It's like, it's kind of like, you know, if you have an employee and you're like, when is this project going to get done?
And they're like, well, maybe in our lifetime, you're like, well, I don't know if you're winning, right?
And in my why do I have to be the bad guy?
Why do I have to be, yeah.
And, you know, it's one thing to like, obviously you're going to list the stats or what, you know, give anecdotal stories.
But when I look outside, you know, one out of three women have had an abortion and we're getting pills in the mail now.
And I think it's disgusting, but I just see it as a losing call.
Like, I just, I see it as you guys lost.
I wish I could sit that still.
Do you see how still she can sit?
Do you guys see?
I try to switch this every day.
I'm like, can you stop pounding on the table?
Can you stop moving in the chair?
I don't know.
I got issues.
I really do envy her ability to just sit.
She sits so still.
Well, here's a few things to consider, Pearl.
Hopefully to encourage you.
So, first of all, there are 12 states that have banned abortion.
That's a big deal.
In 12 states, it is illegal to kill a baby.
And that is huge progress.
And they reported that after Roe v. Wade fell.
Eileen, yeah, it's true.
Yep.
Another huge victory.
Just three years ago, Roe v. Wade was overruled.
Now we have the opportunity to protect life.
That's a huge opportunity.
There were 40,000 more babies born the next year than the year prior that otherwise would have been killed if abortion hadn't been made illegal.
So lives are being saved on a so this is another issue you get with influencers.
You get so many messages as an influencer of people saying, Oh, I did this because of you.
I changed my like I've gotten more messages than I can count from men saying that I saved their life.
And I don't believe I saved any.
I don't.
Because I think that you do, you do what you want to do.
So if you chose not to do it, I may have made you feel less crazy, but or maybe provided content that made you feel less alone, but ultimately that choice was up to you.
And what the influencers love doing is they get so many messages that it gives them almost like a God complex.
They start to think they actually like are doing things when really we're just talking into a microphone.
Daily basis because of pro-life loss.
Even though I have that more adderall, I don't, I'm not on adder all.
Okay.
Damn.
I do.
But that is a good thing.
They looked into that, though, and they saw that women are going to other states to get the abortion.
Someone in the chat saying you're a provocateur.
I hate it when people call me that because I really just say what I think.
And I don't think anything I say is that provocative.
I really don't.
I think that the world is crazy.
And what I'm saying is pretty sane.
And they always say you're a provocateur.
And I'm like, I really, I really think you like, how is this a provocateur?
Sorry, abortion people.
You guys lost.
Women won.
They're going to kill their babies forever.
How is that provocative?
That's true.
That's accurate.
But now, now I don't say it in a mean way.
You know, I'll be nice to you even if you've had one, but this is what I'm seeing, right?
And plan B sales are going up.
I just don't see a baby boom coming anytime soon.
If I see the birth rate going down, I see if abortion decreases.
I looked into this.
Plan B increases.
So I think you're talking about the abortion pill, right?
Well, there's plan B, and then there's the abortion pill.
You know what plan B is.
Don't you do this for a living?
I believe those are you wouldn't.
They're different things.
Yeah.
So here's the thing.
I hear what you're saying.
And yes, there is, you could call it like the black market.
And this is going to happen even after abortion is banned.
You know, when we ban.
No, I wasn't talking about the black market.
You dumb hoo.
You dumb huh.
Sorry.
I think I'm taking it.
I'm going to get a text from Doug MPA soon saying, tone it down.
These women piss me off because it's not what I said.
I did not, because even if abortion was illegal, oh, you're not getting rid of plan B, they could ban abortion.
Plan B sales would just go up something like murder, fraud, rape, whatever.
Sometimes the bad thing still happens to some degree, right?
So I'm not going to say, oh, it's possible to make sure that no one ever commits any sin again.
That's not possible, right?
In this life, you know, before one day, hopefully on our journey to heaven, we can be perfected, you know, by God's grace, right?
But we can fight towards justice and we should fight towards justice for our laws in our society.
And in Texas, as an example, Texas banned abortion, and the birth rate did go up in Texas, Pearl, despite the fact that, yes, some women went out of state.
You know, my state of California.
You know what I'm going to Google?
All right.
Birth rate in Texas.
Okay, so 2024.
Let's see.
You're at you.
Oh, my.
Fuck you.
do you know how much of the birth rate increased by one percent that's that's what we got 1% Horrific By how much?
I was saying like one.
I think the number was around 40,000 more lives.
No, I meant one kid per because we're at like one point something for the birth rate.
So what to one point?
The birth rate is very low.
It's below replacement rate.
But my point is, lives are being saved.
And that's a good thing to celebrate every single one of those lives.
And I'm not saying that's a bad thing.
You know, I'm all for it, but you have to understand that still sounds like a losing cause to me.
Like it doesn't sound like you guys are winning.
Here's another perspective for you.
So throughout human history and certainly in American history, there have been a number.
It said, oh, they're saying it was 0.4%, not 1%.
Or of injustice.
Yeah, but our wallet increased by 50%.
I know.
Or abuses, right?
And I remember studying the history of social reform to look at different injustices.
Like, let's look at slavery as an example in America.
There were a lot of people.
Slavery was deeply embedded in at least, you know, the entire southern part of America, right?
It was a core part of the economy.
It was a core part of the culture.
People thought it was normal.
You know, people that there's no way we're going to eradicate slavery.
There is no way.
And the abolitionists at the time were told that as much.
They said, there's no way you're going to solve this problem.
There's a lot of reasons that they had for that.
We could get into it.
It doesn't matter.
The point is, they said there's no way.
And people said, we're going to make a way.
We're going to fight for this, even if it's difficult.
Even if people tell us it's, you know, it's not going to happen.
We're going to believe that it can happen and we're going to work to change hearts and minds.
We're going to work to Jacob.
Said, I DM'd you the link on X to the influencer whose son drowned after she used him for cloud.
I also sent you a study that then worked twice as hard after divorce.
Why did I can you message it one more time?
Just put Pearl, I'm in your live now and I'll see it.
It'll go to the top of my messages.
I might have missed it.
Protect life ultimately.
And in the end, yes, through a lot of, you know, yes, there was a horrific civil war, but in the end, we were able to eradicate slavery, later on, eradicate Jim Crow.
That took time.
It took a lot of time.
You know what the difference was?
It was.
You know what the difference was then?
It was successful.
Do you know what the difference back then?
Right?
Sorry, can you say one more time?
Do you say, do you know what the difference is?
Yeah, you know what the difference was back then.
Well, how do you see the difference?
Women didn't vote.
Women have too much power.
I don't think that's the reason we had slavery because women are not.
No, no, I'm saying men have a tendency to have moral.
Could you not?
You're on my show.
You know, you gotta let me talk.
saying that women you guys feel I'm saying that men have a tendency, and not all.
I'm on YouTube, so I have to say not all, but men have a tendency to do the right thing where women have a tendency to do the wrong thing.
And so now that women have had all this voting power the last hundred years, I mean, really, you know, abortion's gone up, promiscuity's gone up, and the family unit's gone down.
So I just could not see something that is so moral being passed in my lifetime because women are the primary voting block.
And as you said earlier, Democrats and Republicans, they both have to cater to women.
That's the challenge we're going to have.
And that's why what I'm not saying is that the pro-life movement is bad or wrong or that even, but I do see them as ineffective and a losing cause.
I don't really, I think Roe versus Wade was the last victory they'll really have in our lifetime.
And I also believe that we really have better things to worry about because it's been so ineffective.
Yeah, I just totally disagree.
I think every I just keep nicely telling her your life's work is not working.
Can I, should I tweet this at her and say, I told you so?
Can we put a poll?
Can we put a poll in the chat?
Should I tweet at her?
I told you so, Lila Rose.
Life saved is worth celebrating and we're saving more as we go.
And this thing about women voting and, you know, that's led to all the problems.
I mean, slavery existed in America before women could vote.
So I'm not sure your argument follows that, oh, before women voted, you know, everything was hunky-dory in the U.S.
No, I didn't say that.
So the argument is that men will do something moral even at the cost of themselves.
So even like they will vote or pass something that is morally right, even if it's at a cost to themselves at times.
Women are not the same way.
They vote very selfishly.
And abortion gives women power over who is born.
So they're just never going to give that up.
Doug MPA, I got to come up with a strategy to get these women when they're just going off to just shut up ever.
I think you're casting really big generalizations about men versus women.
And I think you're kind of speaking to maybe the virtue of fortitude.
Next time I'm going to say I am casting generalizations because there's a reason for them.
Where people do, you know, are courageous or do what's right even when it's hard.
But I don't think that's what I'm thinking men and women are different.
Well, let me just finish.
Okay.
You guys get the idea.
So I think you guys, you guys get the okay.
So we're going to have a call-in show right after I tweet at Lila Rose.
I'm going to have to tweet at her real quick.
So at abortion is legal up to birth in the UK.
The pro-life movement is not winning, which is what I told you on my show at Byla Rose.
boom yeah tweet okay doug mpa is he on the line Let's put the Zoom link in the chat.
So we got questions.
Are you pro-life or pro-choice?
And what issues, do you see abortion as an important issue that maybe will be solved in our lifetime?
Or are there issues that you see that are more effective or important?
Now, oh man.
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Yes, no.
This issue is more important or this issue is the most important.
Whatever your thought process is, please call in.
Let me know.
There's no right or wrong here.
This isn't a debate.
It's just, I want to know what the people are saying in society.
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I'm good.
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And yeah, so Doug MPA, what are you thinking about this topic?
So, you know, we've had many, we've had many conversations about your radical acceptance on this subject.
When we first started talking, what, how many years has it been, Pearly?
It's been, what, three, four years or something like that?
I remember how fiery you were on this topic.
And I'm just happy that you're moving past this because it'll drive you crazy.
It really will.
It'll drive you crazy.
I'm pro-choice myself.
I think that these hoes are going to do whatever they want.
And that I don't want to see many getting baby trapped.
So I do see how it's wrong.
I've never had a pregnancy scare.
I do my part to not be in that situation.
But ultimately, I'm pro-choice.
I think that whatever, hoes are going to be hoes.
But I can understand the pro-life position and how morally it's wrong.
I don't have a problem with people being pro-choice.
I just have a problem with them taking so far that it's driving them crazy.
I think that there are bigger things that considers should be worried about, illegal immigrants all over the place, the economy, Stopping this whole Transformer garbage.
I think that the whole Transformer thing can be reversed in our lifetime.
I think that the whole Transformer thing can be like less than 0.001% in our lifetime if we focus if considerators focus on that.
But the whole abortion thing, it's over with, man.
Sorry.
I think the Transformer thing is over, too.
You think?
Yeah, you guys.
Chop your dick.
I don't care anymore.
So am I pro-life or pro-choice?
Because I'm pro-life, I think.
Like, I would like it to be illegal, but I've given up.
So does that make me pro-choice?
Well, no, I think you're pro-life only because, look, you're one of the most giving and caring people I've ever met.
So you wouldn't get an abortion.
And then you would, if you had someone that you cared about that was thinking about the choice, you would convince them not to do it.
And then you do everything you can to help them in a better situation.
But, you know, you're kind of like how you are about being pro-life is how a lot of men are with like being chivalrous to women.
Like, I'm not going to go out of my way to help a woman that I don't know.
Why?
You know, but if I care about somebody, a woman, I'll help them.
But why are you going to go to some event or try to convince women that you don't know who probably want to do it anyway?
Why?
Like, why fight that battle?
Who cares?
Yeah, I just, Jesse Lee Peterson, I heard him, I heard him say on his show, there's some Bible verse about like two people fighting over a baby.
And I guess like in the Bible verse, and I'm paraphrasing this, they just let the mother have it.
So you're like, why fight?
Just like they didn't split the baby in half.
They just let one of the mothers have it or something.
Do you know what Bible verse I'm talking about?
And that's how I feel with these women and their kids.
It's like, I pray to God they can make it to 18 without you messing them up.
But hell, if the Transformer stuff happens, I can't really stop it.
If they murder them, I can't really stop it.
I wish they wouldn't.
If there was someone I knew, I would do my best, but I'm not going to spend my Saturday protesting something that they're going to do anyway.
Like, you saw the women in those videos.
Some of the women, I would show videos of actual abortions.
And they're just have you ever seen one, Doug, MPA?
I can't, man.
No, because they're so disgusting.
I'll tell you, the scariest movie I've ever seen was a miracle of life video in high school health class.
I couldn't even make it through that.
So I couldn't make it through an abortion video.
Yikes.
Yeah, it's really disgusting.
But I've shown women that, and I'm like, are you still, have you changed your mind at all?
And they're like, no.
It's like, I'll show them a baby being basically ripped apart.
Like, that's really, that's an abortion.
They rip off the limbs one by one, crush the head and vacuum it out.
Like, that's, that's how an abortion is performed after three months.
And if it's before three months, they just like starve the baby or suffocate it in the womb.
And then it just like comes out of the vagina.
Long story short.
So, yeah, I've shown women this, and I just looked like at how little they cared.
And I was like, wow.
Yeah, they're done.
They're cooked.
And it's getting worse and worse, too.
I think more women are going to have abortions for you just because, you know, they always make that exception argument.
Well, what about the cases of grape or incest?
But it's like, what?
You know, but the majority, come on now.
So.
Yeah, I would never get one.
I think it's wrong.
But I can't stop these hoes.
That's how I feel.
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And JR never been on the show before.
New caller.
JR.
JR, are you there?
Oh, yeah.
How are you?
How's it going?
Good.
How are you?
Oh, pretty good.
I just wanted to make a point.
I've had a lot of these discussions over the years, and they do tend to revolve around abortion for some reason.
The point that I think gets missed most of the time that I think is the most important point is that the whole Supreme Court case that led to a right to abortion is based on a right to privacy.
And if you make abortion completely illegal, you run into a lot of privacy issues because then you become it becomes suspicious anytime a woman has a miscarriage.
I've known a lot of women who have had miscarriages.
It's, you know, it's pretty tragic.
And it would be awful, obviously, if that was charged as a crime.
And people say, oh, that's ridiculous or whatever.
But there are documented cases where women have had miscarriages in states where abortion was illegal and they can be charged with crime.
Also, reckless behavior of a pregnant woman that results in the death of the baby can also be charged as a crime.
Anyway, you end up with a lot of problems specifically about privacy.
They're all privacy issues.
Anyway, I just want to say that.
Yeah, so it would be because they would have to verify through like medical records if they're going to prosecute them.
Is that what you're saying?
Well, not even that, but like if you eat unhealthy food or if you don't take your prenatal vitamins or if you don't rest enough, like there's all kinds of stuff.
If the fetus is considered a child, then all of those things become child abuse.
And so, I mean, you just have to have a ridiculous amount of basically police surveillance of all pregnant women.
It just ends up being absolutely insane.
And I think fundamentally, what happens inside a person's body, whether it's my body or a woman's body or anybody's body, whatever is happening inside your body is your business.
Like that's your like if you think about law as jurisdiction, because all law is jurisdictional.
You know, I could do something here in the United States that's illegal in other parts of the world, like in Saudi Arabia or whatever.
They execute people for witchcraft, for example.
But I can, you know, perform witchcraft or whatever, whatever it is in the United States, that's not a crime.
It's only a crime based on jurisdiction.
And I think with bodily autonomy, or some people say bodily sovereignty, that whatever happens inside my body is my business, nobody else's business.
Once the baby comes out, then it's a citizen of wherever it was born or whatever rules apply when the child is born.
But whatever's inside my body is nobody else's business.
And it is fundamentally a privacy issue.
Anyway, I just wanted to bring that up.
I really appreciate you letting me go.
Sure, one more question.
What issues do you care about more than abortion?
I mean, individual sovereignty.
Like all of this basically revolves down to individual rights.
I don't know if I'm, I mean, I think this is topical because you're asking me what's important to me.
I'm currently in the process of a divorce, and I'm learning a lot about the legal system.
Oh, yeah.
So basically, I've been completely deprived of 100% of my paycheck and my house, which obviously only I have paid on.
My wife has never paid a cent on the mortgage.
But she held an emergency hearing.
She made false accusations against me, which I find out is very typical in a divorce.
I believe she's being coached.
She even told me she's not allowed to talk to me before she told me she was getting divorced.
Anyway, but I've been completely deprived of my home.
She's taking 100% of my paycheck, and a lot of people find that unbelievable.
It is 100% true.
The judge granted her 100% of my paycheck, and I've been trying to get a hearing, a second hearing, because all we had was the emergency hearing.
I had four days' notice, right?
She never told me she wanted a divorce.
Does she have a new boyfriend by chance?
I have no way of knowing.
No.
Because she has, and the judge, she has blocked me from obtaining any information about her.
And the judge specifically said, like, we're not allowed to monitor each other's movements.
I have had no contact with her.
All of her friends that I've spoken to don't know anything.
What state are you?
But yeah, it's very likely she has a boyfriend.
Well, they're just, because I can't say too much on this live, but you should look up Terrence Popp, administrative violence.
If she has a boyfriend, there's some things maybe immoral but not illegal that you can do to kind of fight back.
Oh, sure, sure.
No, I've been looking into it, and basically, it's a violation of basic civil rights for you to be deprived of property, obviously my house and my paycheck, without due process of law.
I have not been convicted of anything, right?
And the family court is not even a criminal court.
So they have no jurisdiction to convict me of anything.
If she wants to accuse me of a crime, she needs to do that in a criminal court.
But yeah, they've taken my home and all of my money for the past six months.
And I have a hearing coming up next month, which hopefully will get all this straightened out.
But I mean, maybe 20% chance.
It's insane.
It's insane that this can happen in America.
I didn't think that this could happen in America, but apparently it happens all the time.
Yeah, it does.
Seriously, Google Terrence Pop, okay, if you haven't already.
You can buy if you have any.
I know she's taking your whole paycheck, but if you can find, like, and buy his administrative violence, it's worth the money.
I know a lot of guys have figured it out because of that.
Awesome.
So thanks for calling in, okay?
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you for taking my call.
Yeah, keep me posted.
Let me know what happens with your court case, okay?
Thanks.
All right, bye.
Bye well.
Yeah, he's going to learn.
Well, he's learning right now.
I'll tell you, most of us guys, we don't take the red pill orally, it gets shoved up your ass, and that's what's happening.
Poor guy.
100%.
Yeah, fuck that.
Okay.
I'm going to let in.
Dustin, are you there?
Oh, Dustin, how are you?
Yo.
So, Dustin, are you pro-life or pro-choice?
I am pro-life, but like I don't think the choice should be taken away.
Okay.
If that makes sense.
Like, I think if women want to get an abortion, like more power to them.
But ideally, I think they should have to wear a tattoo or something on their arm that says I'm like a total bitch.
Yeah, they'll die before that gets out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's definitely, it would never happen.
But like, I mean, there's a, there's a demand for abortion, and a lot of money is made.
And if women, like, if, if you get an abortion that's used as a contraceptive, I think that's just terrible because you're not taking responsibility for your actions, you know.
But yeah, so I'm very pro-life.
I think if I ever, if there's kids out there I don't know about, you know, I want those moms to come find me.
Do you think there are?
Yo, I think there's only one man.
There might be one.
I've been trying to get a hold of her, but she just blocked me because I was like a little worried, you know.
But I just want to know what it looks like.
Are you trolling?
Are you being serious?
Oh, I'm serious.
Oh, wow.
Joey's serious.
It's dusty.
Oh, my goodness.
I was talking to a girl for a minute and I liked her.
And then we did the dirty.
Shout out the club.
Oh, dude, I shot it up.
Do you want to shoot up the club?
Are you like.
No, I dispersed the baby batter very conservatively.
And like, I just, I was like, this girl I liked.
And I was like, okay, like, I'll do it.
And then after that, she just like took that and then like just stopped.
She wouldn't answer my calls and nothing.
And I was like, that was so strange.
I dated her for like four months.
And that's not enough time to know someone to have a kid, you know.
But after that, that encounter, she just like ghosted me.
So I was like, whatever, you know?
And then now she has a kid?
And she believes that.
I don't know if she does.
Like, I can't find any photos of her.
Like, I don't, I don't know.
I don't know.
That's it.
It's probably not probable.
It's not probable because the odds of a woman getting pregnant are so rare.
Yeah.
But that is the only one that I'm worried about.
That I'm like, if I did have it, I would love to at least know.
So what do you think about all these pro-life organizations?
Do you think they're a good thing?
Do you think?
Well, I think that they're, I think it's kind of a, I don't know.
I guess I think they're good because abortions are really bad.
Like, there's a really interesting story about a chick that survived an abortion and they did like the acid pill thing where they kind of give you that pill that kind of hooks the baby.
And she survived and she became a lawyer somehow.
I don't know what the heck, how it happened, but there's a whole documentary on her.
And I'm like, if it's just not right.
It's if that was out there, these pro-life organizations maybe should find a better way to disperse the information.
It's so politicized.
You can't really.
Come on.
You think women would change their mind?
I don't think they'd change their mind.
I think if a woman does not want to have your kid, that kid's dead.
She's not having it.
You can't moralize your way into it.
It's my opinion.
I had a friend.
Was living in Louisiana and then he was about to take a job in California and he met this total freaking Louisiana swamp rat at a bar and smashed on the first night.
And he moved away a couple years, a couple of weeks later.
And then, you know, what about a year later, he gets a message from her saying that she had his kid, but then she's giving the kid to this rich couple for like money.
So he's like, wait, yeah.
So, yeah, so he tried to sue for custody, but she has signed the legal documents.
And now his son is with this family and there's nothing he can do about it.
Have you seen there was a call-in radio show where people call dates that they ghosted.
And there was, yeah, yeah.
And so there is a woman that called in and she said, I ghosted this guy years ago because we hooked up and I was moving and I just had a lot going on.
And I actually had his kid.
And the kid was like two or three at the time.
And she was like, I just want him to like be like, I just want him, like, if he want, I just want him to know.
And if he wants to be in the kid's life, then like it would be great.
But if not, it's okay too.
And so they called him on the radio show and like told him that, like, and hooked them up or whatever.
But only the radio people knew that, like, basically they set up a date between the two.
And he'd just gotten out of like a two-year relationship.
And they ended up getting back together and raising the kid.
But if that happened to you guys and an old hookup from like three years ago called you and told you you had a kid, would you be pissed?
Oh my gosh, yeah.
Well, first off, if you think about media, we've normalized women having a man's kid and not telling him.
I mean, Jenny from Forrest Gump is the worst movie villain of all time.
And she kept Forrest Gump's kid away from him for like, what, five, six years or something like that?
But think of how many stories we've accepted in movies and in television where the guy finds out he has a kid years later.
And no one gets mad at the woman.
Like, nobody, why was this being robbed of being with his children?
Think about all the movies, all the TV shows, where that was a plot point.
And he still got back with her, too, is the crazy thing.
They had a second kid.
They got back together and had a second kid.
Would you consider that if you had, like, would you consider it?
No, I think, I think it's totally evil.
Like, after listening to you, Pearl, I think that I've changed my thoughts on sleeping with single moms.
I do it for research purposes now.
And it's like the things that the women say, so they'll go, oh, I was with this guy.
We had kids, but then he stopped working.
So I just divorced him.
Like, he stopped working to take care of the kids and be a stay-at-home dad, but then I divorced him.
I took the kids.
And now I don't let them see him because I think he's a bad example of what a man should be.
And these women really, women need their dads because women don't know what they want.
Women don't even know what kind of man they want.
So they don't know what kind of man they want their kids to be.
I see these poor boys raised by single moms, and they're just the softest kids I've ever met.
And like, they don't know what to do outside.
My daughter is more of a, has more masculine traits than they do.
It's just so sad.
I really think if a woman doesn't tell a guy, if a woman doesn't tell a guy that has a kid, I think she needs to go to jail.
She should go to Guantanamo, send him out.
And the thing about it is: if a woman ever had a kid against my will or behind my back, I mean, all she's getting is a check.
That's it.
Because, you know, you got to keep your veins cold, man.
There's no such thing as the right thing anymore.
Men used to do the right thing, but women call that patriarchy.
So you got to do what's best for you.
If a woman had a kid and came back around and said, hey, you have a kid, I'd say, well, I mean, sue me for child support or don't.
Because all you're going to get is a check.
And then I'd be ready for when that kid came to my doorstep in 15 years and said, why didn't you, why weren't you in my life?
I'd say, baby, your mom betrayed me.
Or, you know, she didn't tell me you were born.
I didn't want to be a dad.
So there's that.
I heard you say that on another episode, Doug, and I thought about that for a minute.
And I was like, whoa, that's pretty wild.
But maybe you wouldn't even need to say that.
Because if they live with their mom, they know damn well she's nuts, you know.
100%.
Yeah.
100%.
Who's Hannah Worth?
I don't know who that is.
Someone in the chat says Doug MPA Jr. is out there somewhere.
Yeah, I'll bet.
No, not really.
I'm telling you, I didn't make it to my age with no chill.
I have no children, and it was planned that way.
Believe me.
It's not hard to not get a woman pregnant, guys.
It's not that hard.
It really isn't.
It just happened.
You know what I'm saying?
And I say, no, I don't know what you're saying.
Dustin, didn't you?
Then that happened to you.
No, like, dude, I never had a girl ask me to finish in her before.
And this time it happened, it sounded so like a great idea.
And I was like, yo, I'll do it.
But my pull-out game was always good, man.
I think I've used a condom maybe five times in my life.
So I don't need them.
I don't have sex because I'm ready to die.
You're not worried about catching something?
No.
No way.
I don't hang around in those crowds.
Well, I mean, I did once, but you know.
You don't know.
I've interviewed people that have stuff.
You can't really tell.
You're right.
You can't tell.
So I guess I'm just a lucky, lucky guy.
But I just went to the doctor a couple months ago to get tested and everything, everything checked out.
Russell the Love Muscle is in good condition.
Okay, well, thanks for calling him, Dustin.
I was going to talk to you, buddy.
Someone in the chat said, people still use condoms.
We should do a show.
I want to know, like, what percent let's put a poll in the chat.
Do you use condoms?
So there are black guys that are in Atlanta, and they say that a lot of the black women in Atlanta will get upset if you want to use a condom.
Like, oh, you think I'm dirty?
And they will insist that you don't use a condom in places like Atlanta and Baltimore and stuff.
Yep.
Yeah, no.
Oh, look at this.
We have Cassie coming on the line.
Cassie, are you there?
Yep, I'm here.
Hey, Cassie, how's it going?
It's going.
I don't know if y'all see me in there, but no.
I just wanted to let y'all know that I think abortion is wrong, but I also agree with you, Pearl.
I don't think it's going to go anywhere anytime soon.
I hear a southern.
Are you in Texas by chance?
No, I'm in southern Illinois.
Oh, okay.
I was curious if we got some an infield from Texas letting me know if these women stopped killing their kids or if they're driving.
No no, so you don't see.
You don't see it going anywhere either.
Huh, I don't really see it going anywhere.
But honestly, I wish people would stop talking about it like.
It should not be as publicized as it is.
I think it's a very private thing and I think that would help like, keep it from being such a popular thing like and being used as like.
What was it being used as?
Birth control is what we were talking about earlier.
Yeah, I don't know if you guys saw my comment earlier, but when I was trying to have my second child with my current husband um, I was part of a couple of different trying to conceive groups in the forums.
People were getting abortions because the baby wasn't the sex that they wanted.
Holy shit, I was like, are you kidding me?
I couldn't take it like it was killing me.
I I'm a very to the core, like hardcore on fire for Jesus type, so I'm like that.
That shook me, man.
I couldn't believe it.
You know well, you know what it was for me it was when I would show women videos of abortions and just to see how little they cared, I was like yeah, this is done, we lost.
Um, are there any?
Are there any issues, you see, that are more important than abortion?
Definitely, I think that having a bunch of pedophiles in power is a big problem.
Okay, Doug Mpia, you got any other questions for her?
Um, what so?
Are you one of those people because pro's on this radical acceptance thing, where she's pro-life but she doesn't want to drive her herself crazy?
Are you?
Are you pro-life enough where you would try to advocate this to strangers to your position?
Would you ever like protest?
Are you one of those type that would hold signs out front of a planned parenthood?
Or are you more like you just keep it kind of?
Oh, you said that you don't want to talk about it, but still, would you ever go to like a pro-life rally?
Or or what would you say to?
What would you say to a close friend?
Huh, if a close friend came to me and was talking about wanting abortion, like most of my close friends know how I feel about it and I would let them know exactly how I feel about it like hey, I think it's wrong.
I think you're sacrificing your child to Satan.
Um, whenever you do something like that, like because that's what it is, you're sacrificing somebody else's life for your own, so like that makes no sense to me.
Um, welcome to the murder club.
I guess I don't know what the hell you yeah, but it's like there's nothing you can.
I don't do you know anyone that's had an abortion personally?
Unfortunately yes, and I try to just avoid the topic with them and they avoid the topic with me, and that's how we keep our relationship civil.
Yeah, I mean, if you have seen a girl that wants to do it, there is nothing you can say.
There's, you're, you're absolutely right.
Once she's made her mind up, there's no way you can talk her out of it, because She's already put herself ahead of that child, yeah.
And it's like, I think it's wrong.
I wish they wouldn't, but I'm gonna go nuts if I have to argue with these like women over something that'll never change, you know, for years.
I'm like, you win.
I'm the same way, and I honestly, I went through the same thing.
I couldn't, I can't deal with it.
I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna sit here and try to convince you that that life is valid because you think yours is better than it.
It's cool.
And the abortion issue is just another example because we say over here, nothing is more important to these modern women than their own selfish desires.
Nothing, you're right, not family, not children, not a husband, nothing.
That's absolutely right.
I agree with y'all completely.
I honestly, I saw you guys.
Uh, I saw Pearl on the I think it was the whatever podcast or something, and I had to come check y'all out.
So, well, thanks for watching.
I was like, I can get behind this.
Yeah, oh my God, you can't.
Oh, that was such a long show.
I'm hugging flashbacks.
Those are like eight hours, you know.
By the end, you're just so done.
Yeah, exactly.
It's very draining.
Yeah, it's like talking to a brick wall, and it's like you can't go anywhere.
Yeah, it's a wall, yeah.
And that's why, like, when the women conveniently become pro-life after they've had like three abortions, I'm like, that's so convenient.
It is, and then, like, I can tell you from the person that I know that has had, I believe she's had more than one, but I really haven't asked her.
I know she feels guilty for it, and it eats her up.
And I'm just like, I can't help but think you deserve it.
Yeah, do you know what?
I know two women personally that had them, and one had like three.
Like, one literally had three.
Yeah, I know.
And the other, she, do you know what?
She felt guilty for like a year after, but then after that, she was like, she kind of, you know, when they start arguing and getting like more feminist and liberal is kind of like a cope.
Like, she almost wanted us to forget that she was like drunk for a year after she had it.
I'm like, yep.
Okay.
Yep, that they lost their shit after they did that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The other girl did not care, though.
She was fine.
She, yeah.
I don't know anybody that reacted in that way.
That was just nonchalant.
Actually, I take that back.
I don't know for 100% certain that this woman has had an abortion, but I am 97.89% sure she has.
And she did not give a shit.
So yeah.
Sounds about right.
Well, thanks for calling in.
This was nice.
Call in anytime, okay?
Heck yes.
Thanks for having me.
Y'all have a good one.
Yeah, you too.
What a great call.
That was great.
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There is Angel says, why can't we all agree that Democrats are actually feminist?
It's a semantic.
We are a Christian republic.
I just don't think we're a Christian republic anymore.
Sorry.
Well, first of all, the Republicans are feminists too, but let's get back on topic.
Hey, it's Donald Trump.
Donnie, good to see you, buddy.
Hey, Pearl.
Hey, Doug.
Today is my birthday, June 18th.
Oh, happy birthday.
I'm honored to call in on your birthday.
Oh, yeah.
It was a nice birthday.
I cooked dinner with my brother.
We're twins, and I'll stay on track.
I am.
Hey, I'm a twin too.
Not identical, although a lot of people get us confused.
Okay.
We look like the twin towers when people walk and see us.
But I have been pro-life as long as I can remember.
I didn't even know what Roe versus Wade meant when I was researching it in history class.
I thought women's rights meant like discrimination or pay disparity, but I didn't know what abortion was until I saw a YouTube video and it looked like something out of a horror movie.
And ever since I was disgusted, like I used to be a textbook Christian conservative, and now I'm an atheist-leaning libertarian, but I'm still very much pro-life because you can't prove God exists, but you can prove unborn children exist.
And my biggest why for being pro-life is it could have been me.
Like, there's nothing more selfish than saying it could have been me.
Because if you flip a quarter and then you flip it again, that's the probability any human being after the 70s could have been aborted.
Like, I'm not just talking about me or black dudes, just like anyone after 1973, a 25 to 30 percent probability of being aborted, which is what's that constitutional amendment, a cruel and unusual punishment.
It's like you're giving someone a death sentence when they've committed no wrong.
Like, you're literally being executed because you're an inconvenience.
If you look at the Gutmacher data, they'll show you the vast majority of abortions are literally you're an inconvenience, not to save the life of the mother, not rape, even though rape is like one in 10,000.
You guys want to have any questions?
No, do you see the pro-life movement as effective?
Do you see any change happening in our lifetime?
I'm going to read a super chat really quick before you answer that.
One Kings 316 to 28, King Solomon, and two women's babies.
Okay, sorry, go ahead.
I don't remember my Bible that much, but that's the story where Solomon was cut the baby in half.
But I don't see the pro-life side winning, but to give, what was that Christian lady you were debating?
What was her name again?
Lila something?
Yeah.
Yeah, like to her point, when slavery was as popular as it was, a lot of people thought it would go on forever.
And eventually things shifted.
And if you ever read Sun Tzu's The Art of War, if you do belong to the weaker side in a conflict, if you can marshal your resources, make alliances, and survive, you can eventually win.
Possibly, that's how the American Revolution won.
Like, we didn't actually beat the British.
And look at the Viet Cong and the Tao, even though they didn't win in air quotes, they outlasted.
But as far as the pro-life movement is today, like they're super weak, even though they'll show people heartbeats, even though they'll literally give these single moms houses, they're just not winning the emotional arguments.
I mean, the pro-life marches are a good touch, but you have to really take over the culture.
When you, because when Pro was talking about, when Pro was talking to Lila Rose and she brought up slavery, the biggest difference between abortion and slavery is that abortion is about women and women's power.
Okay.
Slavery was a societal issue that was in the hands of pretty much everyone trying to overtake it, overturn it.
But women are never going to give any power that directly affects them back ever.
That is the difference.
So I wish that any time someone brings up a comparison between slavery and abortion, abortion is all about women's power, whereas slavery was about men and women in society.
That's the big difference.
Well, not necessarily.
Like, I mean, there is this herd morality where women are this victim group, but they really have power.
But then with slavery, it was really a racial issue.
Like, this is tied to white man's power, especially white Democrats in the South, but white versus women.
And now you're right in that sense that it's tied to women's identity almost, which is so retarded because women should be giving life, not easily taking it.
So I see your point, Doug.
But I want to agree with you because Pearl's not the first person to do this.
Halsey English, if you keep up with TFM, he's his man in Jersey.
He used to campaign and go in front of Planned Parenthood.
And he just said, you know what?
I can't care about these people's children more than they do.
So I get it.
It's a losing battle.
Even Jesse Jackson, before he sold out, he said the Black Panthers should bomb Planned Parenthood clinics.
And then he sold out to the Democrats.
So I can see your point.
It's an uphill battle and it's not exactly easy, but there is a chance the pro-lifers could come back.
I don't know, incubation technology, but that's too far off.
In the short term, I agree with Pearl, but I want to split because there's other people.
But thanks for having me, guys.
I got to go.
Yeah, thanks for coming.
Happy birthday, buddy.
Happy birthday.
Stuart said he said, cut the baby in half.
The real mother said, don't give it to her.
Then kill him.
She was the real mother and aborted custody.
Well, yeah, but the difference is nowadays, both mothers are saying kill it.
Sorry, that was kind of funny.
We got Will up next.
Will's also the call.
Will's connecting his audio.
Thank you, everyone, for all the super chats.
We really appreciate it.
And Will, are you there?
You're on mute.
Will.
Yeah, I'm here.
I'm here.
Will, how's it going?
Hey, good, Pearl.
Thanks for having me.
Thanks for calling in.
So are you pro-life or pro-choice?
I think I'm kind of like you in that abortion horrifies me.
And it's also on a personal level.
But legally speaking, I think that ship sailed a long time ago.
Yeah, these women want to kill their kids too bad.
I mean, they just, they want it so bad.
You know, you asked the previous caller, did them, or yeah, did she know anyone?
Well, I know someone.
My mom.
No way.
Yeah, and she didn't tell me until way later.
I was 25 and we were just in the car driving down the freeway.
And this was a while ago.
I don't remember how it came up, but she basically just told me in a very kind of nonchalant way that I have a little brother.
And like five years after my little brother was born, she got pregnant again by my dad.
And they just kind of didn't feel like the timing was right or maybe two was enough, but she got an abortion.
And the way she said it, it was like she just didn't think anything of it.
You know, it was crazy.
That's almost 50% abortions are married women that already have two kids.
How did I not know that stat?
Three kids.
I did not know that.
Wow.
I think it's like 42% of abortions are married women that already have multiple children.
Yep.
No way.
Wow.
So in your mom, it was just very nonchalant about it.
She didn't care.
Yeah, flippant.
And that was a big part of kind of what turned me against abortion.
Is it took me a while to process that?
You know, like I went home and I thought, man, I could have another little brother or a little sister, but they just don't get to exist now.
That's just not a thing.
You know, and then I took it one step further and was like, what if I was the inconvenient one?
I might not exist.
You know, and it just, it just drove it home on a personal level.
And I just, it like, I actually like cried.
I like shed tears for like my little sister that never got to exist.
Wow.
Do you so, but you agree that the pro-life movement isn't overly like effective?
I think it's complicated because abortion is kind of a red meat issue for both sides.
Like abortion drives both Republicans and Democrats to the polls for opposite reasons.
So I, you know what I mean?
Like I don't see the Republicans letting go of it because it's like an easy button they can push to get their base riled up and turn out to the polls.
But on the flip side, it also drives a crapload of Democrat turnout.
Like these Democrats, they actually think that the election of Donald Trump means we're like on the path to the handmaid's tail.
Like they're that delusional.
I know.
And the women that think that are so ugly.
I'm like, nobody's getting you pregnant, bitch.
I know.
It's like, why do all these women who turn up to accuse famous guys of raping them?
They're all hideous.
They're so hideous.
Wait, so you're, do you think if you showed your mom like what an abortion procedure looked like, do you think it would change your opinion or no?
I don't think so.
I mean, because she was like, she's a boomer.
I'm a little older.
So she kind of went through college during like the absolute height of the 60s social revolution.
And for these people, like these older Gen X and boomer people, and especially women, it's like, it's like their fucking religion.
Pardon my French.
Like it's such a part of their identity that I don't think they'll ever let go of it.
Does your mom know you feel that way?
No.
No.
I've never told her.
Well, because I love her and I had to like kind of, it's been hard for me to square myself with like, I know she's a good person.
She cares about me.
She cares about people, but she did this like horrifically evil thing.
It's been like weird for me.
Yeah.
That's, we had a show called Poker Face where like horrific things women have said to you nonchalantly and you just have to keep a poker face.
That's what that reminded me of.
Yeah, that was pretty much it.
Like I never brought it up again.
She never brought it up again.
That's it.
Yeah.
Stewart says Caitlin or George Carlin says USA loves war the power to take life.
The two biggest hot button issues are gun control and abortion, tools that take life.
I kind of wonder though, the thing is, I know abortion brings Republicans to the polls, but I think I just wonder with this new generation, if that's going to be a thing of the past, because women are the biggest voting block for conservatives and Democrats now.
Like they both have to pander to women to win elections.
And I don't, I don't, I wonder if conservative women are really any more conservative on that issue.
I don't believe they are.
I mean, I'm friends, I live in Texas.
I have a lot of quote-unquote conservative female friends, and they have completely swallowed feminism.
Yeah.
Do you, have you seen any impact from the abortion being illegal in Texas?
Honestly, no.
I mean, and you can still get like the morning after pill on the internet.
Like you could cross state lines.
Like, and granted, like, just because I don't personally know anyone doesn't mean it's not happening, but no.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Doug MPA, you got any other questions for him?
No, you know, thanks for calling him.
Really appreciate it.
Can I add one thing real quick?
I'll be super quick.
Go ahead.
I think that politics is downstream from culture, like a lot of folks have said.
And I think that like IRL activism, like going to clinics, going to college campuses and stuff, I think it's actually not going to work because women have so much propaganda pumped into them their entire lives.
Like you can't fight that.
The only thing that's going to change people's stance on abortion at this point would be like armed revolution or a total system collapse.
I think other than that, it is what it is.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
Thank you for calling in.
Colin, I need to see.
Thanks for having me.
Can you imagine that?
Go to the document that you and then click on the YouTube link that I put at the bottom.
Okay.
And this is a scene from a show.
You get to see how heartless women are when it comes to this whole abortion thing.
Can you imagine finding out you could have had another sibling?
I'm clicking on now.
That's crazy.
I kind of had that happen to me, except I had another sibling.
My mom didn't abort.
Okay, let's see.
No, I can't go for a run because I had an abortion yesterday.
I can't go for a run and I can't take a bath or use a tampon or have intercourse for like a week.
Wait, start over.
What?
Oh, see, there he is.
Huh?
I think it's full screen, Doug.
Oh, go ahead.
Okay.
No, and I can't go for a run because I had an abortion yesterday.
I can't go for a run and I can't take a bath or use a tampon or have intercourse for like a week.
Yeah, just a couple of things I can't do because I had an abortion yesterday.
Was it mine?
Yeah, of course it was yours.
I didn't want to talk about it beforehand.
I just wanted to do it.
But I haven't shared with boyfriends in the past, so I'm trying to be more open with you.
So you're trying to be open with me.
How many abortions have you had?
I'm not going to share that with you because that is private.
I'm not going to ask you how many girls you've gotten pregnant.
None.
It's not private.
I've got no girls pregnant except for you now.
Who aborted you?
A doctor named Unita did the procedure.
She delivered my cousin's baby.
Was it a boy or a girl?
My cousin's baby's a girl.
It was a ball of cells.
It was smaller than a seed pearl.
It didn't have a penis or a vagina.
Isn't this a decision that people typically make together?
So you wanted a baby?
Maybe.
That's kind of absurd.
Disgusting.
You're being so much like your shoot.
Your mom didn't love the sibling.
She deleted.
Well, again, that's so gross.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember that.
I've never seen that show, but I came across that scene when because Adam Driver was in.
I forgot why.
But yeah, but that's how heartless these women are.
If anyone's had a situation where a woman aborted your kid, you should call in.
Next up, we have Asan.
He's been waiting.
Hey Asan, how's it going?
Hey, doing well, Pearl, how are you doing?
Good to see you guys again.
Good to see you.
So, are you pro-life or pro-choice?
What do you think?
Remember, last time we had a conversation, I'm a Muslim guy, I don't have any choice.
I have to be pro-life.
Okay.
And what's your experience with abortion?
Have you, do you know anyone that's had one?
Unfortunately, unfortunately, yes.
I know someone that had two of them.
I came to know that later on, but that was not like close family.
It was a friend of mine.
She was quite progressive, quite westernized, I would say.
But, you know, when I listen to these shows, especially when people call in and talk about their real-life scenarios happening to them, like inside their family, I just wonder how people live with these kind of truths, you know.
I was listening to Will, and since he said that, like, his mom told him nonchalant that there could be a sibling.
Oh, my goodness.
Since then, those words are like still resonating in my mind.
Like, how, how, how can you love somebody after knowing that they've been like a cold heart killer, man?
What do you think?
Yeah, it's weird.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Yeah, go ahead.
It's weird.
I had a friend in school who I really liked, and I found out she had one like two years, three years before.
It's kind of weird because you like them day to day.
You like how they treat you, but it's just like they did this terrible thing, you know?
So that was kind of the yeah, you can't really look at them just the same.
At least I couldn't.
True, true.
Was your friend who had the two abortions was she Muslim?
Yeah, she was.
She was, unfortunately.
Yeah, unfortunately.
Let me give you, let me give you a sneak peek.
Yeah, let me give you a sneak peek into this side of the world.
Well, here, if you have a kid before marriage, you're just not marriageable.
That's what the reality is at least.
Like, you guys have single mom crisis.
We hear the way people see women having kids before marriage.
The only choice they have after this is to be a prostitute.
That's it.
No other choice.
In life for them, after that situation, God forbade accept rape, which is still, you know, if we talk about numbers, it's very minimal on the eastern side, except right in the neighborhood, India.
There's a lot of rape going on, but in Muslim countries, it's like very nominal.
You cannot do that because the family unit is still there.
You know, you have brother, you have father that is protecting you, and they make sure that you get married to a person, which either they choose or you choose.
In most cases, the ladies choose the husband, but in the supervision of the father.
But in this case, she was in university.
She was in like, you know, doing her thing, and she was hanging out around boys.
And one guy did it.
She got pregnant and she aborted that.
Another guy did it, like a second guy.
And she did, like, in four years, two abortion.
And I cannot imagine, like, after that, my relationship with that woman, we used to talk.
Mostly, that's how much we are allowed to.
But after that, I used to think if she can do it to a life that was growing inside her, she can do it to anybody.
Like, if you're concerned about pedophiles, if you're concerned about men that have mental issues, they're going to rape somebody.
Are now.
We are concerned about women that are just killing babies like it's nothing.
Aren't those like psychopaths?
Aren't those like killers?
What are we even thinking like?
I, I believe personally, 99 of problems in the world right now is because of weak men.
100 everywhere you go.
Every problem that you see as the guy Will, was saying an armed revolution is required or the system has to collapse.
I 100 agree.
Otherwise nothing's gonna go back to normal.
Things gonna pile up.
We'll have emotionally drained future generations which will eventually kill themselves without even killing each other.
They will just kill themselves with all that trauma that will be stacking up in their mind.
See, i'm um, when people say, oh yeah, it's all, it's all men's fault, this weak men, I think that you're holding on to a antiquated view of what strength is.
Because here's the thing, when women have the legal system behind them, like the traditional way of showing strength is, it's not going to work.
Men are showing strength by disengaging where we're holding fast, we're not giving, we're not playing the game because remember, women rewrote the social rules in the 20th century and men, the 21st century is going to be women, is going to be men responding to it.
So I see a lot of strong men who are choosing, because if you have a child who's taking advantage of something, what do you do?
You take it away from them.
Right, women have been.
We're in the great experiment where women have been taking advantage of the fact that that they have this privilege.
So men are staying strong and women are having to learn the hard way.
So so I I see a lot of strong men.
I see a lot of strong men out there maintaining the line, not being a pack fuel for these women, accepting the fact that if you, you know, you mitigating risk, living for themselves, and accepting the fact that women are going to have to fail feminism.
Life is never going to be fair for a man.
So if women want equality and feminism, women are fighting for their lives to be just as unfair for them as it is for men, and men are letting it happen.
So I see a lot of strong not the majority, but I see more men taking what I consider strength.
So let me let me come on to this point.
First of all, the.
The number of men that you traditionally say strong, especially throughout the world, is very less now.
The whole feminism idea is built on men and women relationship.
Okay, and the specific relationship which they mostly target is husband and wife, right?
What are the relationships where men are authoritarian over women?
Do men are authoritarian over their, over their daughters?
I don't think so.
They provide them the best possible living situation.
Talking about men being authoritarian on their, their mothers, It rarely happens.
Nobody even likes to hurt their mother, you know?
So, most of the case of feminism was built upon men and women in terms of husband and wife.
And that's a very tricky, that's a very tricky relationship.
Okay, if you overpower someone, give too much power to someone who is a submitter, eventually he'll not submit.
So, when I talk about weaker men, I mean to say that men who gave these ideas out, gave the notion out, and nobody fought against it, or the weak men, which are the problem.
If you go back in the history, the industrialists, the tech guys, most of these guys who are just yelling about feminism, equal rights are the ones that are benefiting from women working tirelessly nine to five.
So, the problem when I say is weak men is those men who are benefiting from this labor of women labor.
You know what I'm saying?
Do you think that the pro-life movement has been effective?
No, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
It is actually pushing more women toward abortion because you can never win an emotional argument against women.
They'll be like, It's my body, it's my body.
When you say, Okay, it's your body, but I don't want you to destroy your body, and she will start going nuclear against that argument as well.
She'll be like, They'll want to do it more.
Don't do it.
I will take care of my body myself.
You know what I'm saying?
That's the thing.
Yeah.
Doug MPA, you got any other questions for him?
Delica, I love you.
No.
Thank you.
Thanks for calling in.
Okay, call in any time.
Thank you, Pearl.
Thank you, Delica.
It was wonderful talking to you guys.
Have a good one.
And thanks for waiting patiently.
I appreciate it.
I appreciate that, man.
No problem.
No problem.
Have a good one.
I just get up and grab my phone.
Sorry about that.
I think we have another woman online.
Let's see who.
Anya, are you there?
This is connecting audio.
Anya?
Anya.
Are you there?
You're on mute.
Hello, yes.
Hey, Anya.
How are you?
Hi, I'm good.
So I just stumbled across your channel because I'm interested in the topic.
I'm kind of between the pro-life and pro-choice perspectives.
And I'm 19.
So I'm like, obviously, I was always very interested in politics, but I will say I do lean more pro-choice.
And I would say the reason, there are many reasons for that.
One, I think abortion, I personally know that I would never get an abortion.
But I do think that at the end of the day, you can't really tell other people what to do with their body.
If they want to cut off a part of their body, if they want to chop off their arm, that's one thing.
But that's not even the main reason why I lean more pro-choice.
The main reason I would say is because I just feel like a zygote, an embryo, and I'm not talking about fetuses that are more developed, but a zygote or an embryo is not the same as a human being, as a person that's born.
And I don't know if I can properly articulate why, but if I had to choose between 10 zygotes that I would need a microscope to see, to save versus one human child or one newborn child, I think most people are going to pick the newborn child.
And I think there's something that we all intrinsically recognize about zygotes is that I do believe they have value, but do they have the same moral value as newborns or adults or children?
I don't think so.
So I guess that's my current stance on it.
I obviously I'm open to having my mind changed though.
Like I'm very into the topic as a whole.
Do you know anyone that's had, what part of the country are you in?
You sound Midwest Midwest yourself?
No, I grew up in New York, born and raised.
I don't hear a New York accent from you.
Are you upstate maybe?
Well, so the New York accent is usually like Bronx people and sometimes Brooklyn people.
I'm Manhattan.
So yeah, I grew up in New York my entire life.
So obviously I do have a liberal bias that I'm going into this with and I recognize that.
But at the same time, I watch a lot of pro-life and conservative media just to see what they're saying.
So I feel like I'm not putting myself in an echo chamber either.
But, you know, I grew up in New York, but I do, I am first-generation immigrant.
So my parents are, they grew up in Asia.
So like, obviously they have more like socially conservative values.
So it's that balance of, you know, liberal values in school, but then being raised in the home with more socially conservative values.
So overall, I feel like I've had a pretty balanced upbringing.
So what, do you know, sorry, do you know anybody that's had one?
Or like, do you know anyone personally?
So actually, no, I, I'm young.
You're only 19.
So sorry, keep going.
Yeah.
I am young, but I will say I knew a lot of people in my high school were sexually active.
So like, and a lot of them obviously were not educated on how to use birth control or contraceptives properly.
So like there was a high chance of me like knowing someone.
I'm in college now too.
But I only know of this one like girl in middle school who had like apparently a ton.
And she kind of moved away and went AWOL.
So I don't really know what happened with her, but she was like the one that everyone talked about.
And I haven't really come across anyone else personally.
She had an abortion in middle school?
Yeah, like multiple, multiple.
And no one, no one knew, like, no one knew how this was happening or anything.
I suspect it was a really bad situation in her home life.
I don't know.
But she had multiple.
And then she just kind of like dropped out of the education system in general.
And I don't know where she is.
Like she went AWOL.
But other than that, I haven't really come across anyone who's personally had one.
Obviously, I probably have and they just haven't divulged that information to me.
But you know.
Yeah.
For me, the piece of information that made me pro-life is that it's a unique piece of DNA that's different from the mom and the dad's that starts at conception.
So basically when it first, when it first gets conceived, you can tell like the gender it will be, the eye color, if it's going to have curly or straight hair.
I do understand the perspective though, that people don't really think it's the same thing as like a fully formed person.
But I have given up because I do think that women will have abortions forever.
So I don't think I've done the back and forth a lot where I would like argue with women about it.
And I just, that's kind of what I was talking about in the show today is that it's almost like useless because I googled the Infant mortality rate in the 1800s, and it's pretty much the same as the abortion rate today, leading me to believe that women have always killed their kids.
That's what I think.
And like, I completely hear you 100%.
Like, again, I'm kind of new to the issue.
Like, I'm not super well-versed in this issue.
That's why I'm kind of just searching for what my stance will be.
Yeah.
But I will say, like, I just, don't you personally feel like there are some such, like, if, how much do you think that, like, a zygote or like a two-week old, three, four-week old, six-week old, eight-week old fetus, how much do you think that they really have like a sense of, I guess, like what is happening to them?
I know that they, I, I know that, I know that they eventually will develop into becoming like a full human person.
But like, for me, it's very important that I guess all everyone who we you know bestow legal protections over have some kind of conscious experience as well in some way or capacity to have that conscious experience in order to be on par with like other people.
Again, I'm not fully sold on it.
I like have you still, have you seen one?
I have not.
Yeah.
I have not.
If you watch like the videos of them, even pretty early, like you can just see the baby like trying to get away and like squirming.
And just for me, after I saw one, I just couldn't, even like women.
I had a woman on my show that like described her abortion and it was less than three months.
It was like the pill.
And she said she didn't realize like her baby would have fingers and just how like developed it was.
But I do give up again.
I do.
Doug MPA, I was just reading this.
It says nearly 800 infant remains found in a septic take at a nun-run Irish unwed mother and baby home.
I know I definitely hear you on that one.
And I'm sure it's gnarly.
I can barely, I think someone earlier mentioned this.
I can barely get through like a birth video like one time.
Like, you know, those high school health classes.
That's probably the scariest movie I've ever seen in my entire life.
It is, yeah, it is so scary.
I literally made it two seconds into seeing like an uncensored birth and I couldn't do it.
So I'm sure seeing an abortion would be even worse.
Yeah, but I will say, go ahead.
Oh, I will say that despite how gnarly it is and how absolutely like grossed out I would be from seeing that, hence why I would never personally get one.
It's does that should that change public policy and laws?
Because we have an emotional reaction to it.
I don't know if that, I mean, again, it's just a very complicated topic for me.
I mean, I see both sides making good points.
Yeah.
And I'm sorry.
Well, and to be fair, it's almost the way I view it is the only thing I can control is myself and I won't ever get one.
I would encourage anyone I know to not get one, but I don't see the policy changing.
So I don't know if that makes sense.
Opinion, although I can give it, I do have a microphone, but I don't think it matters too much because I think at the end of the day, like people can say what they would do in a certain situation.
I've never been in that situation, but I think most women, if they got pregnant by a guy they want nothing to do with, most women, that's what they're going to do.
Like, even the ones that say they wouldn't, I think when their backs against the wall, push comes to shove, they're going to do it.
That could be true.
Yeah.
I'm going to read this really quick, really quick, just before it goes.
And in Mosaic law, if a man hurts a pregnant woman, if the fetius, his life was forfeit, therefore God sees unborn babies, even embryos as life.
Psalm 139.16, your eyes, even me as an embryo, all its parts were written in your book.
Sorry, go ahead.
I just read the super chats.
Yeah, that is a good point.
And again, I think everyone can agree that if a man were to harm a pregnant woman, they should face charges for hurting the baby, which does kind of obviously merit the pro-life vibe more.
But then there's also the argument of, well, that wasn't like the baby, the fate of the baby from like a libertarian point of view would lie in the hands of the mother, not some other third-party man.
So, I mean, but obviously, again, it's a nuanced issue.
And I do, I do see.
Well, and how would you legislate it too, would be the question because if we make it illegal, that means we're putting women in jail that get them.
So a third, how are we going to enforce that?
It's that I just think it's, I think it's unenforceable because if you if you criminalize an abortion, um, women have, or people have things such as falling downstairs or other drugs or things that like will happen anyways, and there's no way to know.
Um, so it's like, it's like, I mean, I guess in some cases you could figure it out, but do I really see on a pragmatic level, like women being in jail for abortions if it were ever criminalized?
Probably not.
They'd probably like, we probably still have creative ways to do it without people ever finding out.
Well, and it's it's through coercion too.
Like even the pro-life woman that was on my show, she's still giving women an out with convert coercion.
Because if a woman gets an abortion, if she can say, oh, I was coerced into it, which is basically saying that a man was threatening her to get it, which in theory sounds like okay if someone's threatening you, but what they do is they can even say, oh, a guy raised my voice at his voice at me and said he didn't want to be a dad.
Therefore, I was coerced into getting an abortion, right?
Even if he did nothing physically, like there's just these ways that they kind of expand the definition of like for being forced or like a be like, well, they'll call everything abuse or everything coercion to somehow just blame female sin on the man.
So that's like, I think that would also incentivize women to just start blame.
If they got caught having an abortion, they're just going to blame the men for it.
That, that is that, if abortion were to ever get criminalized, I definitely see that being a route that people take as a way to avoid the legal consequences.
I will say right now, though, because abortion is legal mostly in most places in the United States, I don't think women really have like a reason to lie about if they were coerced.
Like, I mean, like you said, so many people just own it proudly.
They're just like, yeah, I got three abortions.
It's like for me right now, I would say probably when they say like, oh, they were coerced, I would say a good chunk of those are actually legitimate.
As in the sense, like, you know, as in, I can see like a boyfriend being really adamant about not carrying the pregnancy to term and then eventually getting physical, et cetera, et cetera.
But if it were to ever get criminalized, definitely I would say the lie rate is going up 100%.
So I would say there's no way that a woman could be coerced in 2025.
Because I do think if you're abused, it is your responsibility to report it.
And if you don't, I think that's kind of on you.
So like now you're just signing up for it.
I don't really, you know, I think it's your responsibility if you're abused to report it.
So if the woman has the legal system on her side, which police generally tend to believe women, because of all of the police standards are based on the Duluth model, which assumes that the man is the aggressor because he has more force.
I'm kind of butchering it because it's been a while since I've read it.
But long story short, I don't think in 2025 you can be coerced because the media is on your side.
The police are on your side.
What I do see women do is after they have the abortion, they want to build some sort of like pro-life media career or get sympathy.
And so what they tend to do is they say they were abused or whatever.
And I used to believe them, but generally, if I ask like five questions, did you file a police report?
Tell me specifically what happened.
Did you hit first?
Usually, like, because I interviewed a thousand women, their stories would just kind of fall apart.
So, but when I was 19, I probably would have believed them too.
So, and I would add to that: the rhetoric nowadays is pro-women.
Women are powerful.
Women can do whatever they want.
Women can be astronauts, but then it's so hard for them to go to the police.
Are you serious?
You know what I'm saying?
And then, Anya, there's over here, we have what's called the female-friendly version of the story.
The female-friendly version of the story is the woman is the hero and the victim in the story at the same time.
Yeah, you have to kind of.
For me, I, my initial response was similar, where I didn't really think people had a big incentive to lie.
But you start to get like trained, not even trained, but I just start to kind of be able to see the holes in the story.
And in all honesty, I interviewed a thousand women and probably Doug MPA, would you say every like three shows, someone said they were abused?
I think at the beginning, maybe it was every five, but at the tail end, it was like every other show.
Every other show.
And I believed I can't think of one whose story made sense.
I literally can't.
That's how bad it is.
But it wasn't until I had that experience that I would have thought that.
Before I had that experience, I probably would have had a similar point of view.
I'm going to read this super chat and then you can respond.
Roulette, wheel, very interesting and controversial topic.
Eric Wade, if the state allows abortion on the basis of SA, then women who want abortions will simply claim the pregnancy was a result of a non-consensual encounter.
Yeah, that's the other issue.
Then you'll just have women saying they were graped.
Go ahead, Anya.
Any other thoughts you have?
No, I guess it was just fun just going back and forth with you, hearing your perspective.
Will say again, I'm very swayable on this issue.
As I said, like two days ago, I was kind of more pro-life thinking.
It just changes.
It changes so frequently because it's just so confusing right now with all the information and media out there.
And, you know, this whole case about this brain-dead woman being like kept on life support or whatever to deliver the baby.
There's so much needed around that.
I will say, talking with you, definitely, I'm going to go look into some other things 100%.
What is your major in college, Anya?
So I'm majoring in, I have three majors.
I'm majoring in political science, economy, and sorry, not economy, economics, political science, economics, and psychology.
And what do you want to do, like occupation-wise?
So, again, I'm not sure.
It's one of those things that I'm still, it's just like, I don't know how people know what they want to do in life so early on.
I'm just like very, very much still thinking about it.
Did you take out loans or your parents for it?
Okay.
No, I'm fortunate enough to where my parents can pay only for my college education.
Well, that'd be, then she'll be all right.
I'm like, don't get into debt over those degrees.
Well, they're still grad school.
Yeah, just don't get into any debt.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm telling you.
Because the ROI in those degrees really aren't great, to be honest.
And I was an economics degree, and I'm now a YouTuber.
So 70% of the student loan debt is women.
And debt is new slavery.
So, Anya, please.
Yeah, just don't.
And some of the best advice I ever got is: you know, I'm professional and I have a bachelor's degree and a master's degree, and I still don't know what I want to do.
But I remember my father told me: if you don't know what you want to do, think about what you'd never be caught dead doing and choose something that'll get you as far away from those things as possible.
That's good advice, and I definitely will heed that.
I know that student loans chase you around for life.
And so, you know, obviously I'm making good financial decisions.
I'm getting scholarships, applying for them, and doing whatever I can to lighten the load financially on my parents.
And obviously, the last thing I want is a significant source of debt.
So, if that means working a few years to save up before pursuing any further education, then so be it.
But thank you for that warning.
Are you single?
Dustin likes your voice in the chat if you're interested.
I am single, but I'm in such a like isolational, just like get better phase right now.
Like, I'm just hunkering down and looking for internship opportunities and doing fitness and all that.
So, frankly, like it takes up basically my entire day.
Um, so I am single, but I don't think that I can pursue anything right now.
Okay, well, he likes your voice.
So, if you're interested, I just want to say, if I wasn't as articulate as I possibly could be, I'm sorry, this is my first time doing anything like this.
So, I'm fine.
No, you're great.
You're fine.
Don't worry about it.
Yeah.
Call back anytime.
Any topic you want to talk about, call in because you never have to show your face.
And we're really good to hear.
It's really good to hear different perspectives, especially from the 14 of Pearl's female friends fans.
You're number 15 on you.
Thanks for calling, okay?
Have a good night.
Thank you.
Thank you.
What a great call.
That was fun.
That's why the men like the young 19-year-olds.
They still have life in their voice.
They still have life and hope.
Two women in one call.
Is that a record?
Yeah, I think so.
Genesis 316 is the root of male-female issues.
It's a curse.
Thank you.
I'm actually going to read the website too.
Let me go back.
Can you ask her if her family tried to honor Killer?
Oh, I'm sorry, Dustin.
I missed it.
And we have a couple of more.
I know that.
Ask her about her organization's financial problem though, I read already.
Okay.
Okay, so I see him in the chat, so I'm going to bring him up.
Osmosis Jones.
Are you there?
Osmosis Jones.
He's listening to the YouTube.
I can hear it in the background.
So there's going to be a delay.
Osmosis Jones going once.
Osmosis Jones going twice.
Osmosis Jones going three times.
All right.
I'm going to put you back.
All right.
We tried.
Okay.
Let's try.
This person says Zoom user.
Are you there?
Hey.
Hey, how's it going?
Yeah, good.
Can you see me?
Our friend from down under.
Look at this guy.
Yeah.
Is this the guy with the A?
I can't see it here.
It's delayed for a second for me.
With the hot girl that came back with the kid.
Yeah.
Oh, nice.
Hey.
So, how are we going?
Good.
How are you?
Yeah, great.
Hey, did that last chick just say she didn't get taught how to use contraception or something at school?
That's pretty normal if she went to Catholic or like private school.
We didn't get taught that in my school.
What's there to teach?
I mean, like, I mean, it's on Google.
Like, you can Google it.
One of my friends grew up, so Eagles passed Texas.
Like, 70% of the people are on like welfare and food stamps, right?
And Texas passed a no-sex education law thing where there's no sex education.
And the teen pregnancy rate like tripled down there.
And so they were talking to young girls about why they're all getting pregnant in the teenage years.
And they're like, well, no one taught us what to do.
How are their parents teaching them?
I don't get it.
Do we have to leave everything up to the school system?
I guess.
Yeah, that's just well, but their parents are throwing them in.
Their parents are throwing them in daycare.
They're not raising them.
So what do you think about the topic?
Are you pro-life or pro-choice?
Do you know anyone that's had an abortion?
Yeah, I've been through one.
Really?
Yeah, and I'll tell you, like, boy, to all those people out there who are just going around rooting around, thinking, oh, you know, the pull-out method works.
It doesn't.
Okay.
You know, I'm sorry.
Take it from me.
It does not work.
It might work 95% of the time.
There'll be that one time where you just can't get her off in time or you just think, oh, it might be pre-come, whatever it is, but it happens.
So what, did you, like, was it the pre-come or did you try to pull out and you didn't?
Like, which one was it?
I think I tried to looking back on it.
Think it was a pullout, and I might have had half a second late, you know.
Okay, well, in my experience, because here's the thing: pull-out method works if you pull all the way out.
But the problem is guys are in there, it's feeling good, and they're just in the middle of the moment.
Like, you know what?
I'm just gonna go for it and take my chances.
Let's go!
That's why the pull-out method doesn't work.
If you pull out, it works, and it's just guys, and then they go in expecting to do it, and then you know, you're not in your logical mind right before you know the magic happens.
So, guys will just take the risk, yeah, especially if the girl's like right there, and you're like, oh, I can't.
So, so, was she a girlfriend, a hook, like a situationship, a one-night stand?
Which one?
No, girlfriend.
We had been dating for like two years, but um, we were just like, well, for me, I kind of knew I didn't feel like this girlfriend was going to be a wife.
Um, that's kind of been my whole life, really.
It's like I've dated so many girls, but in the back of my mind, I was like, I don't think this is like going to be the one, but I want a girlfriend, you know, like I like having a girlfriend.
So, in hindsight, I probably wasted a lot of girls, like good years, unfortunately.
And yeah, no, we just thought selfishly, we're like, oh, you know, our careers are getting going and it's going to be so expensive and stuff.
But really, really for me, it was like, I just don't think this is the one.
But I'll tell you right now, whether the government gets involved or whatever, it's like, take it from me.
That is something that haunts you forever.
And I've had to make peace with it with God.
I've had to like ask for forgiveness and say, hey, look, I did what I did and I got to move on.
But, and I have, but it doesn't just, it's not like something you can just turn off.
Maybe for some people it is, but that's crazy.
Like, for me, it just sticks with you.
And it sticks with her as well.
I still talk to her, you know.
Really?
What does she tell you it was like for her?
The experience.
We don't, we haven't really talked about the actual experience.
No, I mean, after, was she, did you guys break up?
Was she like crying?
Like, what was no?
We dated for another two years.
Yeah.
Did you stop doing the pullout after?
Or did you wear condo?
Probably not.
No.
Yeah.
It's not good.
But I mean, I really think contraception or abortions and all that birth control, whatever it is, I think it's let down our society a little bit much.
Like if you knew, or if you did, if we go back for thousands of thousands of years, you wouldn't be having sex with everyone.
You know, you wouldn't be just like fucking every Tom, Dick, and Harry if you were a girl.
Even if you were a guy, you wouldn't be going around and sticking it in everybody.
Like 90% of the women that I've slept with, and I have slept with a lot of ladies, I would not have slept with them if there was no such thing as contraception.
You know, I'd be like, no way am I going to even have the chance of having a child with that person, but I will have sex with that person.
And now we've just got a whole bunch of sluts and slut makers just running around, really.
So do you regret it?
Like if you had to do it over again, do you think you like, well, actually, my first question, do you think if you had encouraged her, she would have had the kid?
Like if you said you wanted to be a dad?
Oh, she would have.
And in hindsight, are you happy with the decision or do you regret it?
I don't think like that, Pearl, because I can't change the past.
I just try to learn from what I've tried to learn the lesson, you know, and I'm kind of trying to pass that lesson on here: is like just don't try it, don't do it.
You know, like, how hard is it to put a couple of condoms in your car or your pocket, wherever you're going?
Just put it on.
And then when you do finally meet someone who you're like, hey, I want to actually have a child with this person, then it's like being a virgin again.
You're like, oh, wow, I haven't had sex without a condom for years.
You're like, holy shit, this isn't a whole new experience.
This is great.
Yeah.
So you said it was, it haunted you.
How long did it haunt you for?
Or like, what was the experience like after?
Directly, actually, directly after for a few years, it didn't haunt me.
I was so hedonistic, you know, like just following drugs and sex.
She was like, well, I don't even want to say she's bisexual because she's not now.
But at the time, we were sleeping with other women.
You know, with having, we're bringing in friends of hers and stuff like that from time to time.
So we were just living that lifestyle.
All I wanted was threesomes.
All I wanted was the high life, you know.
I think that's a lot of guys.
Yeah.
Years later, it started to really kick in.
And especially because I was coming back to like God in a big way, too.
So I was just like, I can't live that lifestyle again.
Anyway, point of the story is I would just suggest, you know, just take your precautions, gentlemen.
You know, you're so, I'm so surprised how many women out there that you meet and they hardly even know you.
And you're like, oh shit, I forgot a condom.
And they're like, oh, it's okay.
Just do it.
I'm like, wow, okay.
You don't remember.
All right.
Yeah.
Doug MPA, you got any questions for him?
Nope.
Thank you for sharing your story.
And you got to figure out how to put some kind of name instead of Zoom user.
You got to figure that out.
I will.
I'll put Craig from Australia last time.
Yeah, yeah.
Thank you for calling in, buddy.
Call anytime, okay?
Thanks a lot, guys.
Take care.
Thanks for sharing.
I think we may.
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We have Jana.
Are you there?
Jana, Jana?
Yes.
Can you hear me?
Oh, that's three in a row.
Jana, how are you?
I'm good, Pearl.
How are you doing?
Good.
Midwest?
No, actually, I'm California.
Oh my gosh, I've been so offed with the women today.
Los Angeles.
Okay, cool.
So, what's your thoughts on the topic?
Are you pro-life or pro-choice?
I'm actually, well, myself, I'm pro-life, of course, but I'm pro-choice.
And I'm going to take a little different view than other callers have.
Okay.
I think women, I think the way men see women as psychopaths about it is because the medical industry makes it really easy for women to have abortions.
Like you go in, you're giving anesthesia, you're in Twilight.
I think if we took away anesthesia, honestly, and let women just go through it, the abortion rate would drop significantly.
So, I mean, I mean, that might be a little bit of a radical view, but I think that's what would happen.
Do you know anyone that's had one?
Or have you yourself had one?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, not me.
No.
But yeah, I had my cousins had a couple.
I mean, that was back when we were young.
She was 16 at the time.
My college roommate had two.
I actually drove her to one.
At the time, I was, you know, we were in college.
I didn't really think about it, you know, but I mean, she went in, she had it done.
I mean, she came out.
She was loopy from the medicine.
And yeah, that night we were partying again.
We were in Waikiki, partying it up.
No way.
So were they the guys that got them pregnant?
Was it one night stand, boyfriends?
Because for me, the women I knew both were boy.
I knew two and they both were boyfriends and they both would have stuck around the boyfriends.
Did you have the same experience or was it more men that didn't want to be there?
For my cousins, I really don't know.
But for my roommate, yeah, it was her boyfriend, long-term boyfriend.
I think he would have stuck around, but honestly, honestly, they were not the type of people that should have had kids at that time.
The two of them together, I mean, they were just a really violent couple.
Oh, I see.
I mean, I love her to death.
I mean, she has five kids now, by the way, which is interesting.
No way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which isn't.
I mean, she's super fertile.
That's one thing about her.
But yeah, they were just not a really good couple.
Did she tell you, was she on birth control?
Or she actually was.
Okay, she wasn't.
Which is weird.
Yeah.
Just didn't work.
Yeah.
She's just one of those women who, man, if we all had, you know, her kind of reproductive system, the world would be a very populous place, trust me.
Got it.
And was she white, black, Latino, Asian?
She was actually Hawaiian.
I went to school in Hawaii, University of Hawaii.
Oh, that's pretty cool.
Yeah, completely different over there.
But yeah, yeah, she's Hawaiian.
Cool.
And how old was she?
So she was like, what, 21?
At the time?
Yeah, she was about 22, actually.
22.
Okay.
And so what's your opinion?
Do you think it should be legal?
And if so, up to what point?
I mean, honestly, wow, up to one point.
Because right now it's decriminalized up to birth in the UK.
So you're giving women.
Yeah, I know.
Honestly, I really do think it's a very small percentage who would actually take advantage of that.
But even that small percentage, I guess, is too much.
I think right now, like, you know, two to three months, I think that should be it.
That's what I would say, to be honest.
I think pro-lifers should just strike a deal.
I'll even meet him at four months if we can just never argue about this again.
Can you believe?
Yeah, I'm with you on this program.
If we just, if we just could never, like, never talk about it again, four months, that's the rule.
I'll give you guys, I'll give you, I think it's wrong, but I'll give you guys four.
We can just move on.
Do you think if we, if we, the right and left just stop talking about it, it would diminish a little bit?
No, there's too much money being made.
Like, you have to understand, like, the girl that was on my show, she makes $180,000 a year.
Like, just be, like, you make money arguing about this stuff.
So, like, I mean, there's money in it.
And also, you could argue.
But here's the thing.
I was reading this thing where there, especially in Washington, Oregon, California, there were these organizations that were pushing to get gay marriage passed, right?
And so there is a whole complex with that.
And then when gay marriage got passed, that's when they started focusing on the whole transformer thing, right?
So if you think about it, there might be such infrastructure of pro-life money and pro-life advocacy that they may not ever want the issue to go away because then, like, how are they going to get their money then?
Understand what I'm saying?
Oh, I agree with you on that one.
Yeah.
That's why I kept asking her on the show when it was going to be done.
You know, like, what's your plan?
When is abortion going to be outlawed?
I'm waiting, taking all this money.
And their answer is always like, sometime in our lifetime, it's like slavery.
And I'm like, I mean, okay, but maybe in the next 10 years, 20 years, 100, like after you're dead, when is they never have a timeline?
And a big example is another complex in Washington, Oregon, and California is the homelessness crisis.
Liberal states put all this money into homelessness, but they don't put any kind of metrics.
So there's 19,000 homeless people in Portland right now, downtown Portland.
Isn't that crazy?
So you think that Portland would say, okay, we're going to put $30 million short to the problem.
And then in two years, we're going to have the homeless population.
So it's only going to be 8,000 people.
But you never see those metrics because there's such infrastructure and a complex to giving out these money to these service providers that they don't want to set any kind of goals to be able to achieve to work towards solving the problem that makes them their money.
I'm with you on that, Doug.
I mean, I live in LA.
I just recently moved back here from the San Bernardino area, which is awful.
That's another story.
But I can't believe the amount of homeless people out here now.
It's just mind-blowing.
They just have no interest in, you know, solving the problem.
It'll never like, that's why I just say, let's strike a deal with them.
And I think that's kind of Trump's stance.
Like, a lot of conservatives were mad because I actually thought it was such a chess move for Trump to have Melania come out as pro-choice.
Because right, remember, they were appealing to the suburban mom vote.
And more conservative suburban moms are pro-choice than we think.
And so a lot of conservatives were pissed because Trump said he wasn't pro-life.
And I'm like, look, guys, he's doing what he's got to do.
Trump's a business guy.
He knows, like, Trump has, he has to, when guys have owned businesses, they have to have timeframes of when they're going to get things done.
And he's just a realistic guy.
That's not, it's not immigrant deporting people, he can get that done.
Getting rid of abortion cooked.
It's over.
Yeah.
He can cut food stamps.
He can cut social programs, all these different things.
You know, he could hire more police officers to decrease crime, but come on, man.
Abortion, no way.
And it's just like the abortion people, the pro-life people just love the thrill.
They love to feel like they're saving babies.
Like, in my opinion, that's like an evil thing.
But to me, this is just my opinion.
I think that women.
You were talking to Pearl.
Why did he always have that deer in the headlights kind of look?
It's like your roommate, right?
The one that got the abortion, nothing was going to stop her.
The women that seek out these pro-life organizations already don't want to get the abortion.
Those are like it's based on what you do, not what you say.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's my opinion.
So, I think, like, in a lot of influencers, I think that's why they get these big heads is because when you're a public figure, like, I've gotten so many messages of people telling me I'm responsible for this in their life or that.
In my opinion, you seek out the influencers that you want or the information you want.
Like, if I want to lose weight, then I find the personal trainer.
And if it's not one personal trainer, I'll find a different one.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if it wasn't me, it was just going to be somebody else.
But, or like, if it's not Lila, it's going to be someone else.
But I don't think like we're in control.
Like, I don't know if I'm making sense, but I think a lot of times influencers think they have more control over the universe than they really do.
Like, people, like, the person that wants to lose weight finds the personal trainer.
They don't find the body positivity content.
And the person that wants to stay fat is going to find the body positivity content.
Does that make sense?
100%.
Yeah.
So.
Also, and I want to say, like, my friend, she did not have to pay for any of her abortions.
What the fuck?
They were both, they were 100% free.
And that's another thing.
Like, we don't have to pay for them anymore.
There used to be a time where you had to go to your boyfriend and say, we need $900.
We got to fix this.
You know, whatever it was at the time.
Not anymore.
Why are you still in California?
You should just move.
Move out of state.
Yeah, I've been thinking about it a while.
Yeah.
Actually, Doug, I have a bone to pick with you because I'm one of those black women you always talk about.
Oh, you know what?
Hey, we'll have to have a show.
You can bring it on.
Because I'm telling you.
My main thing is, you know, I love being black.
I just wish that being black loved me as much as I loved it.
I don't think being black loves me either, but you know, I'm female black and I'm a conservative somewhat.
So, I mean, well, it doesn't really apply to you because here's the thing.
You can say all the deficiencies with black men, and I'm not that person.
Are there pookies and Ray Rays out there getting all these women pregnant?
Yes.
It makes me cringe when I see that type of stuff, content on social media and that stuff on TV, but I'm not it.
So I don't get offended.
I guarantee you, you and I, we get our heads together and all the deficiencies with black men.
I'd agree with you and all the deficiencies in black women.
You'd probably agree with me.
I think in general, we just both have black fatigue.
I think 100% true.
Hashtag black fatigue.
100% true.
Yeah.
I got to not laugh too hard at this.
Let me get off.
And then another.
It's okay.
You can have black fatigue too, Pearl.
I did not.
Hey, hey, hey.
I did not say that.
Another thing.
Tell me if this has been your experience.
Usually in an academic or professional setting, your worst enemy is another black person.
Absolutely.
You're absolutely right.
My last boss was a black woman.
Totally.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like, it seems like everybody she's like, everybody who leaves her department happens to be black.
Either she fires them or they quit.
It's just like, I don't know.
She's just trying to like find somebody that she thinks is, I don't know what her problem is.
I don't know what that is.
What is that, Doug?
It's, you know, I don't try to make sense of it anymore.
We're all about radical acceptance over here.
You know, just accept that things aren't going to change and just move it on.
You know what I'm saying?
And well, my father and my mother were both accomplished professionals.
Because you're from California.
I'm from Washington State.
And, you know, they told me from a young age, this whole Black Nation thing is a myth.
It's a farce.
This whole, oh, you have brothers and sisters.
No, heck no, no way.
So, I left that behind a long time ago.
My mother told me when, like, the first thing she did was move me out of black neighborhoods when I was born.
Um, she's like, There's you're never gonna learn anything from any of those people, and the best thing I can do is keep you in the white world, as she called it.
There you go.
I'm not laughing if there's too many of us around one place.
I'm getting out of there.
Oh my god, my mother said the same thing.
Yeah, like black people move into our neighbors.
You're like, There goes the neighborhoods.
That's why a couple of my friends, oh, yeah, let's go to the Essence Festival.
Let's go to something like that.
I'm like, No, there's too many of us there.
Sorry, nope, ain't happening.
Well, you should go to the Long Beach Jazz Festival.
That would definitely be one of those places where you're like, There's too many of us.
Is there anywhere that you guys can go where it's mostly black people, but you know, it's like educated or like a different type?
Is there like a certain place that you can go?
So, one of the biggest problems with the black communities, we don't have class, we don't have enough class separation.
So, there will be you see it in movies: if there's a black mayor or black businessman, they're going to the same barbershop as the local drug dealer.
You know what I'm saying?
Um, or you see black women they show out just like um, the ratchet women do at a party and stuff.
It's crazy.
We don't have enough class separation, and that's one thing I hope to see in my lifetime is African-American, you know, black people with more class separation.
If I'm in conversation, huh?
You're so right because, like, white people can look at other white people in a Walmart and like say like she's a trailer trash, and they'll look at me like you know, like you know, I'm not one of them, right?
And you're like, Yeah, I can totally tell the difference, but odds are you've had a lot of people in your life say, I've had people say to me, you know, you know, especially a lot of boomers, you know, Doug NPA, you're not like a lot of other.
I've had you're not like other black people I've met, or I've had people ask me if I was raised in Britain or something.
Like, well, where were you educated?
Are you from Britain or from Europe?
Yeah, I've had people ask me that before.
I'm not like every other black person they've met, yeah, yeah, I've had that before, yeah.
Oh, God, um, I think maybe we'll get better.
I hope we get better.
I don't think anything will get better, to be honest.
I see everything no, seriously, like culturally, like maybe people will um be okay money-wise or like not have to work as hard because of AI or something.
But in terms of the family unit, morals, yeah, I see that going downhill.
And just do this exercise every once in a while, Janet.
Um, make a t-chart on a piece of paper, right?
Like you did in school, and put your problem on the left side and not your problem on the right side, right?
And make sure all the issues in your life and all the things that you care about are on one side or the other, because whether black culture gets better or not is not your problem.
It's not, you're right, same with the same with these women killing these babies.
Like, I'm not killing any babies, I never would, and it's not my problem.
Not your problem.
I wish you, I wish you ladies would stop, but I can't.
Like, I tried, or just one of those gangs, not some of them.
I'm not talking to you, but no, yeah, you see all these, you know, all these illegals, like, well, where are all the black people?
Where are all the black women?
It's not our problem, it's not our problem.
Did you notice that?
Like, I was so grateful.
I was like, thank God, there's no black people out there protesting.
Thank God.
I was like, this is the first time.
I was like, oh, man, I would see one every now and then.
But other than that, I was like, oh, we finally just said this is not our call.
This is not for us.
And they're trying everything to appeal emotionally to us.
Look, it's going to be you next.
No, it won't be.
It won't.
What?
27% of the population, they got to get through a lot of y'all before they get to us.
So it's not our problem.
It's your fight, not ours.
I think on her statistics in California, it's one out of four.
Wouldn't surprise me at all.
Like, do you know how much 25%, if I took 25% of the population right now in California, you know how great the 405 would be?
Yeah.
Oh, my goodness.
That's a funny thing.
You know what'd be funny, Doug MPA, if I sat outside of an abortion clinic with a sign that said, could you stop with a smile on my face?
It just like, you guys, could you stop?
No?
So California has 39.43 million people, and one in four is 1.5 million people.
No, I didn't do the math right.
39 times 0.025.
Yeah.
So like, that's, yeah.
Wait, what's, sorry, what's 39 divided by 39 divided by four?
Yeah, that's 9.7 million people.
That's a lot of people.
9.7 million people could be undone.
Oh, my gosh.
Guys.
That is a lot of people.
Wow.
Yeah.
But anyway, well, thank you for calling in.
We're going to shotgun the last couple of callers, but call him anytime.
You've been fantastic.
Yeah, you're hilarious.
Thank you guys so much.
I'll talk to you guys soon.
Okay, thanks for calling in.
Okay, we're going to go through two more because I told him that I'd bring him up.
So we're going to do a quick one with our old friend here.
We're going to bring Gabe up and then Rodolfo and then Woo Woohoo will be done because Gabe's been waiting for like an hour, an hour and a half.
He wants to say his piece.
And then Rodolfo is in the audacity chat.
I told him I'd bring him up.
Guys, hit the like button.
Oh, you want to read the super chats, Pearl?
Yeah, so she'll be scraping in Waffle House in a few hours.
You guys are brutal.
Ask if she smokes black and mild and flies spirit.
You guys.
Hey, Yeti.
Crock Wrangler Mate.
This is awesome.
Gabe, are you there?
I'm here, Doug.
What do you have on the topic, buddy?
You know, in my younger years, I've leaned more towards pro-choice, but I've always struggled with like embracing pro-like choice and pro-life.
I do lean more towards pro-life as I do get older, but I do think there's flaws in both of them.
Personally, I believe that if in a perfect world, if we were still living in a pro-life society like society was before the 60s and whatnot, mind you, I'm a big history buff.
I personally believe that there are a couple solutions that could help us go back to that type of like life.
Sure.
The first and foremost one would be, you know, yes, getting rid of like, say, welfare, which would be kind of shooting myself in the foot hint hint about that.
But I personally believe that it would be kind of like a, I hope this is the right word, a like deterrent, basically, for any of these modern women to sit here and get pregnant out of wedlock.
But the other thing is that if it was up to me, they really want pro-choice all they want.
I would limit like how many times they can like get an abortion, honestly, to one time only in their entire life.
And if they wanted to have a second one, it would have to be under extreme circumstances.
But one time, at one time only, I can't begin to explain like how I've had like simp like TradCon, you know, Bible thumpers sit here and hypocritically say, oh, well, we should have like a system that helps women who have who get pregnant out of wedlock, blah, blah, This, that, the other.
But the other part of this, sorry, my brain is like TikTok brain right now.
Yeah, just, you know, deterrence, basically, or some kind of like, you know, punishment of some kind.
Like, I think back to the argument one Pearl had with that one Puerto Rican broad pixie and she's up there.
I heard her arguments like personally in private from like modern women talking about, oh, well, I can't afford a child, blah, blah, But then they'll go to a nail salon or a hair salon for two or three hours a day spending $500.
Like, and Pearl sat there and counter-argued that maybe if they cut those costs, they'd be able to afford children.
So, do you know anyone that's had an abortion?
Who do I not know?
Oh, so you know a lot of really.
So who do you know that's not one?
He lives in San Francisco, Pearl.
What do you think was going to happen?
I live in SoCal.
I live in SoCal.
Well, it doesn't mean they doesn't mean they'd tell him.
Oh, yeah, they won't say nothing because they'll do like the stupid movie skit y'all were watching earlier on about the modern white feminist lady's like, oh, I'm not going to answer that question because that's private or whatever.
I mean, yeah, you know, I've, again, the answer to that question is who do I not know?
Honestly, I've known so many.
Like, honestly, I don't even know where to begin, honestly.
I mean, I'm.
Okay, why don't you name like two or three that you know?
You don't have to say their specific names, but just like how you know them.
And then I'm, I'm, what was the circumstance?
And like, how old maybe?
So definitely a very close relative of mine's.
A little embarrassing, but in the moment, it's justifiable, but long term, it's not.
It's like, it's a big regret.
Of course, modern women will never say they have regrets.
Was it a boyfriend, one-night stand?
I suspect that was the case, but I will never know, honestly.
And I'm not going to sit here and ask that question, honestly.
Oh, you think it was a good buddy?
Do you think it was a one-night stand?
Yeah, go ahead, sir.
You think it was a one-night stand?
Okay.
And was did this person have did this person have a hard time after, or did they not care?
I think that person had a hard time, like for a long time afterwards.
But as far as anybody who's not family related, definitely Someone I did go to high school with who basically, you know, yes, was having one abortion after another until finally wanting to keep like you know a pregnancy and whatnot.
I mean, this is gonna sound so ignorant by a lot of feminists that are probably gonna hear this and probably say, you know, all kinds of talk all kinds of crap, whatever.
I personally believe all this promiscuity is what leads to later infertility and whatnot.
So, the one point I do remember I was gonna say is that even if we lived in a pro-choice society and whatnot, and all of us supported it, the one thing you cannot get rid of or run away from if a modern woman wants to be having all these abortions and whatnot, eventually STDs are going to catch up to them.
So, not really.
Yeah, I kind of disagree, but I mean, I, you know, the women just lie and say they don't have oh, well, they can lie to whoever they want, but nature ain't gonna let them get away with it, in my opinion.
But no, just, I mean, you know, I've seen old videos, I've seen old videos of women with herpes that have kids that don't have herpes, and then solve.
I know some of them will take owls, but enough of them, they'll just make a technology to fix it.
Anytime I see these like on-campus, like, you know, activities or whatever, where you know, off some off-campus church group comes on and you know, tries to protest abortion or pro-life or promoting pro-life values or whatever, it's hilarious.
I mean, in the last few years, it's gotten way more out of hand.
I mean, I myself have even gotten into a yeah, I'm sorry, Doug.
I just need you.
Did I just if you get to the point a little bit, yeah, because no, just you know, getting into arguments with people.
I mean, what, two and a half hours, so yeah, we have one more caller and then we'll wrap it up because Rodolpho sitting on it.
All right, all right, Gabe, it's good to hear you actually like getting passionate about something and engaging.
Keep it up, man.
Most of the time, you kind of lack the days, go, but it's good to hear a little bit of fire out of you, man.
Good job.
I was raised by a lot of like facetious people, so trust me.
I mean, I'm yeah, well, yeah, anyway, all right.
Uh, see, thanks for calling.
Have a good one, okay.
One last one because he's been waiting in the chat, Rodolfo.
Hey, how's it going?
Doing good, buddy.
Hey, how are you?
Four minutes, go for it.
Four minutes about the topic.
Um, well, I got into it pretty late, but I'm assuming if it's about if uh pro-life uh people are being effective.
Are you pro-life or pro-choice?
Do you know anyone that's gotten an abortion?
And do you think that abortion is a hill that conservatives should keep dying on, or should they just move on from it because it's hopeless?
Uh, I am pro-life.
Um, I don't think I don't know anybody that's had one, and I think I think conservatives should die on the hill.
Um, because for me, it feels very feminine to just want to give up on it just because nobody's uh listening and there should always be somebody uh willing to talk about it.
Isn't it more feminine to argue into a wall?
Well, that's what I was going to say: is like not argue because there's no point in arguing, but just I think we give into uh these people's emotions and then we get lost in the sauce.
But we should what we should do instead is to just be stoic and just tell people like no, you know, that's the real n-word nowadays is no.
And we should just end the conversation there.
It's like, hey, you know, abortion is wrong.
It's a baby, and just leave it there and just walk away from the table.
You don't have to necessarily argue with them because at this point, it's lost.
You're never going to win the emotional.
But there, but do you think it's something that should be on the ticket?
Like for conservatives?
Like, do you think that's really something they should even sell anymore?
Women vote, you know.
No, for sure.
I mean, I was my girlfriend and I were listening to the show, and I was explaining to her that for me, if I had the keys to this whole argument, right?
And I gave it to the representative of pro-choice, and I was like, look, I give up.
Here you go.
But you have to assure me that you do have limits and that you do have a protocol.
You do have a policy other than just saying the same thing that a teenager at McDonald's would tell me about abortion.
Like, you have to give me a full detailed plan on why you support it and, you know, and all that, the legalities.
It can't just be some girl with green hair at Walmart telling me abortion should just be legal.
It has to be way more than that.
And no pro-choice person ever goes that direction.
They always just are reactive to what a pro-life person would say.
But they're never, we never give them the chance to just tell them, like, okay, let's hear your side out fully.
And I think once we bring that to light, it would end the abortion at that moment.
Because everybody always wants to defend the woman, no matter what.
And if we, and I don't know what we is, you know, common sense people, I would say.
If we would, you know, show the world, like, hey, we're going to give five minutes to these pro-choice people to explain why they believe every human being that can make the decision to have an abortion is going to be well-intentioned and they're going to, they have a good nature about it and they're going to be, you know, they're going to use their brain when doing it.
If they can assure me that will happen, then go ahead, right?
We'll stop it at three months or whatever.
But they can never really say, oh, well, we'll stop abortion of our own accord at this.
Like, these are the rules.
Yeah, you're right.
We should have rules.
But we never give them the chance to have that argument.
And I think once we get there, it will definitely show the common person, like, oh, holy, you know, holy shit, these guys are crazy.
You know, but I think we as conservative, right, like common sense people, we just want to have that emotional argument because we just get drawn into it real easy.
But we should just let we should let we should be quiet and let them try to convince normal people like why this should be legalized past the point of whatever a teenager at McDonald's would say.
Yeah.
Doug MPA, you got any other questions for him?
No, I just, you know, I take my stance.
It's done for, man.
I mean, everything you're saying is good, but once again, this goes back to power.
Like, modern women are never going to give their power up, dude.
Ever.
And I did want to say one thing before.
Have 24 hours in a day, seven days in a week, 52 weeks in a year, man.
Like, you, and time is the one thing that you're never going to get back.
Go ahead.
Well, I was going to, I wanted to mention this earlier.
I forgot.
You are right because I think it was Lila that brought up slavery or Pearl.
Lila did.
Yeah.
Lila.
Okay.
So I was trying to, I was trying to put in the comments for you to ask Pearl.
They, pro-life people really can't be effective unless there's some kind of law against it.
And that's that's what Lila was avoiding.
Like that, that's why slavery, ending slavery was effective because we went to war for it.
Like men sacrificed their lives, right?
And there are other reasons, of course.
But this abortion thing is not really going to end until pro-lifers put their foot down.
And is that going to happen?
Yeah, do we really want to do World War III over the exactly?
If we can't even shame women, why are we going to go through the effort to put them in jail?
Like, first, we have to shame the women and the men that contribute to this.
And then it would be easier to make it into a law.
But until we can get over this hurdle of not wanting to hurt a woman's feelings after she killed a baby, then we're never going to win.
Do you think that's a bar?
Conservative.
Go ahead.
That's okay.
Do you think that the fake Chad Con conservative women, which is probably 60 to 70% of them, are ever going to truly put their foot down against other women when it comes to this?
No.
And see, that's, yeah, and that's the key here: is that women, it's the same thing with OnlyFans.
Unless women turn around and tell them, like, hey, you're a whore and we're not talking to you anymore, or you're an evil person, you killed your baby, it's never going to happen.
Like, men can do whatever they want, but until women turn around and tell other women, it like that's that's the real fault here.
Um, that I know that other guy said it was weak men, but it's really weak women.
Like, we have to come in and rescue you from killing your own baby.
Like, why can't you women tell other women, hey, don't do this?
I agree.
Yeah, like, I can stop them.
No, no, I know, I know, I know what you mean, but like, yeah, you good luck.
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
We can't shame anybody anymore.
And that's it's it's like a kid praying at it's like praying at church.
There's that annoying the kid that always wants to be funny and interrupt the service.
And what do you have to do?
You have to kick them out.
You love them, but you got to go.
So, unless we can start doing that in our personal lives, it's nothing's really going to happen.
Unless we can get over this, you know, because everyone has been feminized, it's in our books and everything.
But until we can get that feminist shit out of our minds, we're never going to win anything.
And that's going to take forever.
I agree.
Yeah, I agree.
Well, thanks.
This was a great call.
He brought up some really good points.
Yeah, as a tail end, call in anytime.
It's always good to see you on the Adassi chat, Pudufo.
Always good to see you.
You've been there forever.
So always good talking to you.
Hey, no, thank y'all.
I appreciate y'all's time.
Y'all have a good one.
Have a good one.
I'll fight you naked.
First trimester is reasonable.
Look, if I'm being honest, guys, I think first trimester is unreasonable.
I think it's disgusting.
But they win.
And honestly, guys, I have to be honest.
This radical acceptance stuff, I almost think life begins when you let women win and just you don't even.
I don't care.
Have fun with the OnlyFans.
Have fun with the abortions.
Life isn't fair.
Gold diggers are going to gold.
Because it focuses, it forces you to focus on yourself and worry about your own life instead of worrying about saving the world.
I think it's kind of a young person thing.
I was talking to my, I tell you guys, I have a vegan friend, and this friend I was telling him it's the same thing with the vegan stuff.
I'm like, look, it's a losing cause.
I'm like, it's just a virtue signal.
You get to think you're doing something when you're doing nothing.
I'm like, and I said, I'm like, I did the same thing with abortion.
The exact same thing.
You feel like you're doing something, it does nothing.
You have that thing that you get to tell, you get the virtue signal, virtual signal to everyone that you meet.
Well, it's like when Prius first came out and all the Prius drivers, oh, yeah, I drive a Prius.
And then when Tesla's first came out, I drive a Tesla.
You know, it's just this thing that people aren't religious anymore, so they want to proselytize something to people.
And that's what pro-lifers do.
I mean, they're also religious, but they get to proselytize their little pro-life stance to everybody.
And they're not willing to give that up.
I want to, do you want to?
I'll give people, I'm writing a coffee talk, and it kind of has stuff to do with this topic.
You're going to hear the notes I have.
Yeah, sure.
So I'm going to, you guys get a preview.
Most people don't watch my full live streams, like the clips do better.
So you guys get a preview of my coffee talk.
So I'm doing a coffee talk on why I've been gotten less religious over the years.
And there's one comment I had.
Hold on, let me find it.
Oh.
Wait, there's oh, and it's because people that are religious.
One of the reasons I wrote was it's very demoralizing to see how many people that are like they don't actually care about the religion.
They care about being like right.
Like they care more about like winning the argument.
They don't care about their religion.
And I felt like it's the same thing with a lot of the pro-lifers.
It's just like bored housewives that want to be right and they just have nothing better to do.
So they just want to get paid to like virtue signal essentially.
So I have some other ones here too.
So you guys tune in.
I need to flush through these thoughts because religion is a touchy topic and I don't want to say anything that's like disrespectful to the religious people.
But you'll see.
You'll see the coffee talk.
It's coming this week.
I've been lending marinate.
You got any other final thoughts on the topic, Doug MPA?
Nope, I think everything is covered.
We had three women on the call.
Ladies, I love talking to you.
I don't bite.
I swear.
I swear.
I'm hoping that I don't know if it's Jana or Jenna, and then there was Anya, and then there was Cassie.
I hope they all call in again on the next subject that comes up.
So, ladies, you can call in.
You don't have to show your face.
And, you know, pearl doesn't bite.
So a good exchange of ideas with ladies is always welcome.
And thank you for all the rest of the people that have called in too.
Thank you.
Yeah, and this format, guys, to the callers, it's not meant to be a debate unless you bring me hostile energy.
I will bring it back.
It's meant to be a conversation.
So even if you have a different opinion, you can always call in.
If I do a debate, I like it to kind of be set ahead of time.
Like, these are the topics we're debating.
You know, that's my preference.
Don't think if you have a different opinion, I'm going to bite your head off.
Usually on the shows that I've had more heated debate, it's like a debate show or I have an argumentative sign.
So anyways, guys, make sure you like the video on your way out and subscribe to the channel.