Pearl Daily’s host and guest Shiv dissect the "mid" phenomenon—women rated 4-6 in attractiveness, often resenting naturally beautiful figures like Billie Eilish or Melania Trump while exploiting platforms like OnlyFans. The cycle begins with small-town delusions shattered by urban exposure, forcing mids to trade sex for status (e.g., cake tits’ viral "thirst trap") or rely on indirect strategies like alimony lawsuits (Taylor Swift’s symbolic case against a record exec). Social media amplifies unrealistic ambitions, with examples like Grimes and Ashley St. Clair failing to secure billionaires like Elon Musk, who prioritizes utility over attention, while Siobhan thrives by aligning with his goals. Success for mids demands pragmatism or societal manipulation, revealing how modern standards distort their chances. [Automatically generated summary]
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Now, today we have a special guest on the show.
I met him in a Twitter space.
This is my funnels guy, Shiv.
Welcome to the show.
Make sure you bring that up there.
There we go.
Yeah.
Cool.
Have you ever been on YouTube before?
I have not.
Well, I was on Nickelodeon at 12 for a little thing, and that's my only like.
Wait, were you really?
Uh-huh.
For what?
It was a show called Nickelodeon Nick News because I had a tech blog that made a lot of money as a kid.
Okay.
Can I YouTube it?
Shiv Space Nickelodeon.
It should come up.
So today we're talking about mids.
Are you familiar with the term?
I live in San Francisco now, so that's the whole city.
So I'm very, very familiar.
You guys don't have hot women?
Why not?
Honestly, it's because one, San Francisco is kind of cold.
And it's just like a, I think San Francisco, the problem is the guys are so career-driven that the girls can't grift the way they can in other cities.
What do you mean?
The tech jobs are so intense.
They're so brain-driven.
I mean, look at all these tech guys, like Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk.
Like, they're not usually dating like supermodel pretty girls because to do that job is so intense that girl, it's almost like, it's almost like every guy in San Francisco is kind of asexual in a weird way.
Because the career is so busy.
They're so busy.
It's like they view it as too much work to go and date, basically.
Exactly.
And are they like nerdy usually?
Yeah, but not that bad.
Like, it's more like they're still funny, but yeah, they're not, they, I guess they wouldn't come off across your like typical alpha kind of.
I was just thinking about how Jeff Bezos is kind of a mark for his new fiancé.
Yeah, like she's gonna, you know, Lauren Sanchez.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know, but I actually think she's an inspiration to women.
That's a mid-that's a mid that pulls it off.
Someone needs to like study that playbook.
Yeah, she had two baby daddies and still she looks, she's not even that attractive, and she still found a way to nab a billionaire.
Maybe there is some genius to moving to like Seattle or San Francisco where all these tech people are because, like I said, I think the tech people are a lot more forgiving because they're so busy.
Yeah, yeah.
So, today we're going to talk about the life cycle of a mid.
So, I'm going to do my monologue and then I'll come back to you.
Cool.
Okay.
So, you know, all throughout the red pill space, content creators rate women from one to ten.
You know, tens and nines being women who are beautiful, who are so beautiful that they get paid for their looks.
You know, and sometimes these women, they might not even have big Instagrams.
You know, sometimes this could be modeling, but we all know sometimes the models like they cast fat models not nowadays.
It's not really the same.
But, you know, a time this happened to me was I met Dave Chappelle like years ago, and we went to this like after, I don't know, everyone got together after his comedy show.
And the level of women that were there, they're like women with no Instagrams, like very little following, and they were just stunning, beautiful, gorgeous.
So it's like, guys, I'll see a woman with no Instagram and think, wow, she's amazing, guys.
She might just be getting paid for by A-level celebrity.
So eights and sevens are women that they're not pretty enough to live off of just being hot, but they get opportunities and attention that most other women will never get.
So they're getting invited to all the yacht parties.
They can go to Hollywood.
Like sevens and eights, you know, at a glance, look like nines and tens, but then further inspection.
They're like the bottom of the hot girl tier.
And then we have the mids, and mids is the four to sixes.
You know, six is cute.
Seven is almost beautiful.
Eight is beautiful, stunning, gorgeous.
But you know, it's been talked about at length the results that being a 10 or a seven to a ten can get you.
You get access to the top men in society.
You get yachts, trips, all sorts of things.
There is an exception, though.
Sometimes fives and sixes, the smartest thing you can do is latch on to a nine and a ten and see if you can get the guys that she dumps.
Look, I'm just a strategist here, okay?
So today we're going to have a conversation about mids.
What is a mid?
Now, a mid can be defined as a young woman who finds herself neither beautiful nor ugly and who presents herself as a victim of the popular beauty standards on social media.
So these are the women that go online and trash the attractive women because they can't get their results, right?
They go online about complaining about naturally beautiful women.
These are the women that complain that the models are just like too hot, right?
They think, you know, we need more attainable beauty standards.
No, we don't.
It's just not you, sis.
Do you know what I mean?
It's just not, it's just not, it wasn't for you, right?
A mid woman can be attractive.
Some mid-women can could be attractive, but they choose to make themselves ugly to fight the patriarchy.
You see this in like the Billie Eilish types.
You know, she could be a strong 6'7, but she just wants to be ugly.
Do you know what I for what?
And we've all seen the liberal women that walk around with piercings and shaved head.
And you wonder how beautiful she could have been if she just took that stuff off.
So here is the life cycle of the mid.
Now, again, a mid is a four to six.
Maybe like a low seven could be in the mid category.
So most grow up outside of larger cities where the population props them up a little bit.
So, you know, this is like the prettiest girl in a small town.
A six can very well be the most beautiful woman in a small town because the eights got up and left.
Do you know what I mean?
The eight from five years ago is in LA.
She's in Miami.
I mean, she, or she could just be flying from city to city being hot.
Some of them don't even, guys, some of these women don't even, they're not even forced to sleep with the men.
Like, you know, I have a friend.
She would go find hot women to fill a billionaire's private jet.
That was her job.
They're not required to sleep with them.
You know, they do, right?
Put them on enough private jets.
They're fucking somebody.
But you guys get the idea.
These women, they're just paid for.
They get opportunities that mids just could not fathom or dream of.
So, you know, the mids in a small town, they think they're hot until they move to a big city.
And they're shocked and jealous when they see the beautiful woman and the results they get.
Now, they begin to hate these beautiful women and they do try to keep up with them and run in their circles.
There's nothing sadder than a six who is in eight circles, who doesn't try to make up for it with their personality, right?
You know, there are sixes that nab high-value men.
It happens all the time.
They're all like, this isn't an abnormal thing because men can go down in looks and be happy.
But the ones that win, they do it in a very smart way.
They become useful.
They may be getting to go to the gym, but there's nothing sadder than the ones that get plastic surgery and other procedures in a desperate attempt to keep up with the nines and tens.
Now, look, you guys already know I'm not anti-plastic surgery.
You know, I've seen nose jobs change women's complete facial structures, for example.
I've shown you guys some of these TikToks.
You can't convince me that some of these surgeries did not change these women's lives.
Fraudulent, yeah.
You're going to get ugly kids.
You won't even know it, right?
But can we just, let's just be honest here.
I'm not going to be these trad cons lying to you that some of this stuff doesn't work.
I've seen good BBLs change women's life.
Now, are there problems down the road?
But if they get a ring high fast enough, does it matter?
They get a kid fast enough.
They're not thinking long term.
They're thinking for the now because it pays off.
So the sixes do get, you know, the fives and sixes in the cities get run through by high value men because they're pretty enough to sleep with, but not pretty enough to marry.
Another strategy is they learn the gluck luck, right?
That's how Caller Daddy got really famous.
You know, they learn the gluck luck to keep up.
Men will do crazy things for a good blowjob.
It's crazy the shit they'll put up with.
You'll be like, you know, this woman's doing nothing for you.
She's a complete liability.
She's costing you money.
And you don't really understand why a guy's sticking it out.
I promise to God, it's the gluck luck.
It just is.
It just is.
You know what I, if you think, what is he getting out of it?
He's getting nothing.
I'm telling you, that's what it is.
That's always what it is.
So then they end up settling for a guy they don't want.
Or so a mid occasionally they will land a guy.
So occasionally there are mids that pull this off.
And we're going to go through the strategies that mids use to pull this off.
So sometimes they'll graduate.
They'll go to the city, get the guy they want, and graduate to the suburbs.
They become the Boast Hawks housewives there and they live happily ever after.
Maybe cheat once or twice, but kind of live happily ever after, right?
Or they take that L and go back to their hometown and get the guy they don't want, right?
Some maybe find a guy that's better in their hometown.
There are some good guys out in the country, but let's just be honest here.
Or they settle for a guy they don't want and has no boundaries for them in the city.
Okay.
So now how do the mids compete with beautiful women?
How do they do that, right?
You might think, how does a six can't compete with a nine?
Happens every day.
So mids try to be eights through plastic surgery and body maxing.
So they'll go to the gym really hard, Botox, rhinoplasty, lip fillers, liposuction, permanent makeup.
And I will say, you know, you can't tell me that Kim Kardashian doesn't look better than most women her age.
Melania Trump, those women, there's a way to do it in a trashy way like Kim, in a classy way, like Melania Trump, Trump's daughter, whatever her name is, blonde one.
Ivanka.
Ivanka, yeah.
There's a classy way to do it.
Then there's the mids that sell purity.
So these are the women you see with the cross necklaces.
And they're like in the churches and they say, my faith is so important to me.
But you don't see it through their actions, but they do want to sell the purity.
So oftentimes they stay a virgin too long, right?
So these are the women.
They'll stay a virgin until 30.
Usually those women just don't get good enough offers.
That's really it.
They're either too awkward or too ugly to get good offers.
So they become a fake, you know, trad con feminist.
We've talked about these.
These are the women that are just, they like all the benefits of traditionalism, but they still want authority over everything and to tell people how to live, including their husbands.
They use the church as a justification for their bad decisions and dating and relationships.
So oftentimes from the women selling purity, I always hear that he did not lead me to God.
And what this actually means is I am not hot enough to get the hot guys in the church that I would have zero standards for leading me to God.
So, you know, if there's a guy that looked like Channing Tatum in church and he led me to God and he led me to God, I mean, the women would be fine with that, even if he was cheating and like not being holy at all.
But because he's the other guy's a dork and not leading him and not doing exactly what she says, and he's not good looking enough to do whatever he wants.
That's pretty much it.
So then we got the mids.
These are the, there's two strategies.
They either go the purity route or the sexual route.
So if they go the sexual route, these are the mids that go on a date.
And this guy knows he's getting laid.
He's got option A or option B, right?
And he can go with the virgin selling purity, or he could go with the woman that is going to get him laid.
Now, men, you know, they only have so much time.
So he could go, let's say he's got a mid that's selling purity, a mid that's going to easily sleep with him, or a nine that maybe if he plays his cards right, he'll take home, but he knows she's out of his league.
Some men are going to pick, not all.
I mean, generally they go for the hottest, right?
Let's just call a spade a spade.
But if they think she's too unattainable and like, they might just go for the easy choice.
And then you wonder how these guys like fall in love with porn stuff.
Well, it started off with she just made it easy and then she was nice and likable enough that he was like, it's just easier to keep her around.
You know, she knows me pretty well.
And that's the thing.
The mids that sell sexuality, what they have in the marketplace is they understand men in a way that the mids selling purity, they just don't, right?
Because the mids selling purity tend to shame men for their sex drive.
And the mids that sell sexuality, they know he likes the gluck look.
So they go do it.
Do you know what I now to be fair?
The ones they might cheat, I mean, but at least it'll be a better experience for the guy that's with her for a year.
Do you know what I, she's going to leave or she could hypothetically leave and then go and start in OnlyFans.
You know, mids do very well in OnlyFans because they're attainable.
So they get into sex work sometimes.
Sometimes they're just whores and that's how they compete.
Other times they go into sex work and compete with the eight pluses by giving the high value men easier sex.
And once in a while, they turn that into a relationship, but only after getting run through by 10 dudes.
These girls that pull this off, like, guys, how can we just be honest here?
Melania met Trump in her late 20s.
She had perfected her game by the time she met Trump.
And she played it amazingly.
The difference is, now she's not a mid, she's beautiful, but I'm using her as an example.
There's mids that take the L's and then like take it as a lesson and do better.
And then they just try a different social circle, right?
So they'll go from like, you know, they'll try the tech guys maybe, and then they get run through by them.
They're like, shit, let me go for doctors or whatever, whatever that girl's thing is, Christian influencer.
I don't know.
Then there's the mids that sell intelligence, right?
So they go into a whole bunch of debt to get degrees that literally no one cares about.
And they learn to be a suedo academic and intellectual, and they just love to argue and tell you how smart they are.
I see this a lot in like doctors, lawyers, but they don't, they try to be smart instead of hot.
And I'm not, men don't want dumb women, but it does start with him wanting to have sex with you.
Like you're not going to get anywhere if he doesn't, if he doesn't want to do that.
Luckily, men will go pretty low.
But, you know, you do have to start there.
The next is the hobby mid.
These are women that take on men's hobbies in order to be more likable, join men's spaces, play video games, sports.
You know, this is something I saw as an athlete, you know, like basketball.
Like, who do the men like?
And I'll say this, you know, guilty as a basketball player.
Who do men want?
The cheerleaders or the other female basketball players?
Trick question, the hottest ones.
But which is usually the cheerleaders usually are hotter.
Let's just keep it 100.
Then they mids use social proof to compete.
So get a social media following and be on the one on the opposite side of female issues.
And that's where you get more attention online.
And then the most important one.
Now, these ones I think are the most successful.
Think Elon Musk's baby mother.
Okay.
Now remember, Elon Musk, Siobhan is Elon Musk's, I think they're dating now, but she was a woman that worked at his company.
So she proved herself to be intelligent.
She probably didn't sleep with everyone.
I'm sure she slept with somebody, but probably not everyone, right?
And she was a mid that her goal, she was like, I am going to be useful to these men.
And I'm going to prove I'm stable and sane.
So, over a long enough time period, when they get burned by the hotter women and the crazy women, then they might look over here and say, huh, she's been sane.
She's useful.
She's cute enough.
That's how she did it.
And the thing is, those women have to ask for very little from the guy.
And that's how she got in.
You know, he was banging this influencer, this sexual demon, right?
He's banging Ashley St. Clair.
Crazy woman.
And you guys know how the crazy women are in bed.
I mean, at first, you're never, I mean, he's gone.
He's not going to pay attention to you at all.
But over a long enough, you know, so she let him go do that.
She didn't nag him.
She said, all I want is you to be my sperm donor.
And if you want to be a dad and you want to help out, you know, I would appreciate it, but I don't, I'm not asking anything.
You go build your rockets.
I just want to help you.
And then at first, he said, that's amazing.
Got her pregnant.
Then he's go banging these influencers.
And then he's getting burned from these other crazy.
You know, he went in and dated Grimes.
You know, he dated Johnny Deppsacks.
What was her name?
Amber Heard.
Yeah, Amber Heard.
And got burned.
And then he looks at Siobhan and says, Okay, she's not as hot as these other women, but she's stable.
She can raise smart kids.
She's a good mom.
She's useful.
And boom, she now this woman is meeting world leaders, getting praised by Elon, sorry, by Elon Musk's mother, and getting praised by Elon Musk.
That is a mid to take notes from.
Okay, that is a mid that pulled it off.
Now, you know, there's other mids that go the sexual route, like take Jeff Bezos's wife, or um, second wife, right?
The crazy-looking woman.
Um, Lauren Sanchez, you know, all the names.
Yeah, Lauren Sanchez.
You know, she went the sexual route, the heavy surgeries.
But, you know, he's been with, like, let's say the boring mid for 20 years.
Now his kids are grown.
He's ready for that glut gluck.
He's ready for this freak.
He doesn't need to raise.
It's really not a bad strategy if you're going to be the second hot wife.
I really recommend it because men have to think mother of my kids.
You know, Ben Affleck, he went to J-Lo after the kids were raised, right?
He went to Jennifer Gardner.
He said, she's the most stable actress here.
Let's go with her.
You know, he dated J-Lo before, had kids with Jennifer, went back to J-Lo, got burned by J-Lo, you know, this freaking bed.
You know, she keeps getting men to marry her.
She's doing something right.
And then he said, ah, she's a freaking bed, but I forgot she's crazy.
Now he's trying to reconcile with Jennifer Gardner.
Now, J-Lo is obviously an 8-plus, but you guys see the different strategies here.
So mids have to be humble and accept their place in the order of women rather quickly.
You know, otherwise they're in for a life of emotional pain and disappointment.
And I'm going to show you guys some women that really just cannot accept where they are in the pecking order.
Because mids, they really can win and they can't.
I've seen mids out compete nines and tens.
I've seen it.
It happens.
Mids, but if a mid's going to win, she is required to be a better person than the nine.
And a better person by a lot, okay?
Men are marrying porn stars and OnlyFans models now.
They're marrying them.
And these are not men with nothing.
Riley Reed just got married.
And it was to an attractive guy.
Sure, he was a porn.
Okay.
He was a porn star.
But, you know, what does that tell us?
That's how important looks are.
Is that men are marrying women with digital footprints of them getting railed by other men?
But most of them, most mids will not win.
And when creators in the red pill space say that most women have met a good man that could have been their husband, it's really the mids that we talk about the most.
So let's look at some mid examples and let's think about the type of results these women are going to get in major cities.
So let me.
All right, let's pull this out.
And Shiv, you're welcome to comment on these mids.
Cool.
If a guy ever says you're mid.
So women get called mid a lot on Twitter.
Like a lot on Twitter.
You've seen it.
Of course.
And they all cope.
They can't handle it.
And this is a woman coping because she's getting called mid.
Now, what would you rank her?
1 to 10?
I think she's higher than a mid.
She'd probably be like a six.
Yeah, that's a six is mid.
Oh, okay.
Four to six.
Okay, four to six.
I'll give her a 6.5.
I'll give her a little six.
It says you're mid, right?
I can't hear it through my headphones.
Oh, he'll unmute it.
If a guy ever says you're mid, right, what he's actually saying is that you're hot.
So the word mid is exclusively used by guys with cartoon pictures as their profile picture or MUFC in their name or loving hubby in their bio.
And it is literally only ever said they're disagreeing with you in the chat.
They're saying a three to girls that they find hot and that they're friends.
To be fair, I can't hear any of the audio yet.
Because you turn it up a little bit for me too.
For you too?
Yeah.
And I can't hear anything.
And on this occasion, he actually said unbelievably mid.
So I'm unbelievably hot.
Thanks, babe.
Okay, so she's coping and saying, I'll just tell you what she said.
She's coping and saying that she was, when they say mid, they mean unbelievably hot.
What?
Yeah, no.
And I'm like, no, they just mean mid.
Nah, just mid.
Yeah, I mean, like, I'll show you women that I rate eight plus.
Right.
Because the market's just too inflated right now.
Yeah.
And look, for the chat, I now live in San Francisco, so I'm also probably screwing up my scale, right?
Yeah.
My scale's probably messed up now.
I'll show you.
I'll show you later.
Hold on.
Yeah, does anybody else feel like you're just mid?
Can you hear it?
Can you play something?
Like, you're not ugly, but you're not dropped at all.
Wait, wait, try to switch it to the one on the right.
I think.
Oh, no.
You're not loud either.
Is it his things muted up there?
You're never last pick, but you're also never first pick.
You're not just funny, but you're not funny either.
You're not outgoing, but you're not super reserved either.
I just feel like with quite literally everything in life, I'm perfectly mid.
But honestly, I kind of like it that way.
I feel like I'm not too much, but I'm also not too little either.
It's kind of just like a peaceful place to be.
Mid girlies unite.
This woman accepted it.
So she said, I'm okay with being mid.
I feel like just accepting your mid adds like another 0.5 points.
Yeah, because it shows humility.
Look at, she's got a boyfriend.
Look at her.
I mean, he probably hates his life.
The ones that do TikToks.
They hate their lives.
It's working now?
Yeah.
Okay.
Here she says being mid is annoying.
So she's upset with being mid.
You can see it.
Right.
Okay, wait.
It's full screen.
Should not go on.
Okay, let me try a different like.
So I'll skip that one.
Being mid is genuinely like one of the most is genuinely like one of the most being mid is genuinely like one of the most And it could have been a lot worse.
So I'm glad that I'm just mid.
But as a mid person, if you call yourself attractive, like, oh, you know what?
I'm actually really pretty and all that.
You know, people around you will be like, who told you that?
You need to humble yourself.
I take this on a hundred things that never happened.
Yeah.
Nothing is worse than like whatever she's doing right now.
Like this like thing that like this didn't happen.
Yeah, I know.
I'm like, there's so many industries committed to convincing mids they're hot.
There's industries dedicated to this.
Right.
I mean, it might have happened on the internet, but you chose that.
You didn't have to be on the internet.
Do you know what I mean?
Right.
Why did you, why were you here?
No.
I come.
I take it.
Do you know what I mean?
They insult me all the time, but I'm like, I get to talk for a living.
I'm not leaving.
Yeah.
That's so stupid.
But like, no, you don't go out and people correct you.
Like, I don't buy that.
I don't buy that.
Like, she's just out at a dinner and people are like, oh, you're mid.
Well, and how did this come up in conversation?
Were you saying that you're hot?
Now, if you say it, if you go, rank me, then you're kind of asking for it.
Yeah, at that point.
At that point, yeah, it's on you.
It's on you.
Yeah, it's on you.
So stop being so full of yourself.
That's the reactions you will get if you try to like upboost yourself and be like, you know what?
I'm actually pretty ugly looking.
No, you're going to instantly be hit people saying that.
What would you rank her?
Honestly, after hearing her talk, like a four and a half.
See, I'd give her like five, six range.
Yeah.
But still in most rooms in America.
Yeah.
It's inflation.
It's all inflation.
If we're going straight on looks, I'd probably give five and a half, but or six.
I don't know why the way she talks.
Hopefully English is her second language.
She almost, it sounds like there's like a weird accent there.
Yeah.
It just sounds stupid.
You are, um, if you call yourself unattractive, if you're like, oh, I feel so unattractive.
I feel so ugly.
People around you will be like, stop compliment fishing.
You're so attention-seeking.
You know, they'll tell you that.
So you don't know what to think of yourself.
But as a mid-looking person, your life is usually quite neutral.
Like you get neutral reaction from people.
You just live like life normally.
Like, you know.
Yeah, but you're still a wood for most guys.
And that's not true.
If you go out a dinner or on a date and you're like, I'm so ugly, I'm so this.
No guy's gonna be like, you're complicated.
Like, no, you're, you're fine.
Like, no guy, like, what, what guy's gonna be like, you're compliment fishing?
Because, like, that's gonna end any ability to hook up with her, right?
Like, you're just gonna lie.
Oh, you're totally fine, whatever.
You're beautiful.
Yeah, you're beautiful.
Yeah.
To me, I would just be like, yeah, no, you're fine.
It's everything's fine.
Let's just get on with this.
You don't get any privileges off the beauty premium or whatever it's called.
But obviously, you don't get treated like a social outcast either because of your looks.
You're just in the middle.
You're just there.
And then don't get me start on how it's like being mid on social media.
If you're mid on social media, you're not going to blow up.
You're literally probably more likely to blow up with a female audience because women like relatable.
They don't like beautiful.
Men like.
Like if I want to see actually hot women, I look up UFC Ring Girls.
Totally.
Because it's a male audience, but female, like Taylor Swift is mid.
Oh, that's like a six.
I don't think there is a more mid human than Taylor Swift.
Yeah, she's six.
Right.
Cute, right?
She's like the queen of the mids.
Yeah.
Right?
And she'll be, she's aged pretty well.
She'll be a mid for a life.
Yeah.
And like her, yeah, does her like 38 boyfriends take it down a little bit.
But like, I think the making all the boyfriends public kind of took it down for me.
Not you know, do it in private.
It's a little weird.
Yeah.
But yeah.
At least you, you might, you could, but it might, you might have to create some other content.
Like, I don't know, something that's, I don't know, like something that where your physical appearance isn't the main focus, you know?
But yeah, if you're just average looking and you just post yourself like if she goes to LA, Miami, or Vegas, she'll get destroyed.
She'll get circled.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you can't.
It's very unlikely you're gonna blow up.
You have to be extremely, extremely, extremely attracted to blow up on social media, especially on what's up.
I don't know.
This is just my thoughts and my opinions.
If you disagree with me, that's fine.
If you think similarly to me.
Yeah, they said Angelina Jolie ruined Brad Pitt.
Yeah, he had a mid.
He had Jennifer Aniston.
But you know what?
Sometimes the hotter women, they reel them in.
It's a good deal.
They give the good glut, you know?
Right.
Just and then, you know.
Just my thoughts and opinions on this.
Okay, we're gonna go to the next one.
So a woman says a man called her.
Time some dude who looked like he belonged.
One time, some dude who looked like he belonged in the Muppet movie called me mid.
At the time, I was really offended by it.
But I've been doing a lot of reflecting lately.
And I'm low-key mid.
What I'm talking about is my lifestyle.
I am the most average person I know.
I sit in bed all day.
I sleep with a giant teddy bear every night.
I don't go on a bunch of lavish vacations.
And honestly, all I want in life is a family, a dog named Skippy, and I want to be happy with my job.
I don't believe that's all she wants in life.
No.
That's a virtue signal.
She, uh, I'm not even gonna say it.
Like, she wants to get railed.
That's what she wants in life.
Being on social media actually makes it kind of weird because I feel like I should be doing more things.
And I'm so lucky I get to share my life with you guys, which is why I'm keeping it real right now.
Most of my life consists of school, going out with my friends, and going to Meyer.
And I like it that way.
The end.
It does not.
I love going out with friends.
It's like, no, no, no, that means you like to go out, party, drink, socialize.
That means you're looking for more than your boring life.
Your life's not that boring if going out's one of the bullet points, you know, but whatever.
So this, so one place, and I can say this, that mids go is conservative media because the thing is, there's a lot of sexless men in like they'll, if you go anywhere, that's like because OnlyFans, the number one consumers are white Christian married men.
Oh, I believe that.
Yeah, because Christian guys, I believe, are the biggest simps because they're, I actually think that Christian men tend to be more Christian ships.
Hear me out.
The simps, they think their wives are something they're not.
The liberal men, like the Adam 22s of the world, they're like, yeah, she's a whore.
At least I'm like, who's more of a simp?
Okay.
Destiny.
Have you seen his Destiny's roster of women he's banged?
Oh, of course.
It's very hot.
They're hot women.
Yeah, yeah.
But he is in an open relationship.
Right.
Or say, like, who is someone?
Whoever the hell marries some of these e-girls.
Right.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
No, I do think at least the liberals are they're honest that they're like they're like that destiny is kind of more honest about how like he is.
Um, and like even Adam 22, he kind of admits that, like, yeah, you know, uh, at the end of the day, like, my morals come out of price tag.
I'll let my wife bang someone else for money.
So, I get your point where the Christians still think they're like virtuous to the Bible or something.
Like, they might.
Well, so the guys just get bamboozled because they get all these ex-hoes and OnlyFans.
Like, oh, sorry, who's more of a simp?
Nala's husband.
Oh, yeah.
But Nala's husband or Destiny.
Not like.
No, Nala's husband is crazy.
Yeah, but that's my point.
Like, everyone said Destiny was a simp, and he was, right?
But Destiny's also making a career when he was in the open relationship with Melania.
But he's also banging Lauren Southern.
Yeah.
Like, he, like, I would put Destiny as less simpy than the.
Well, it's kind of like, it's kind of like when people talk about Pete Davidson, it's like, but he's still scoring up on the scorecard, right?
Like, for men, we don't have that much judgment of like, yeah, if we bang a hoe for six months, whatever, it's, it's a low risk for us.
Um, so yeah, I would agree with that.
So here we got an e-girl.
So this is, have you heard of her?
This is cake tits.
No.
So she went viral.
Let me actually get the original one.
Wait, hold on.
Don't show my screen.
Okay.
Okay.
Before, I don't know what's going to come up.
So let me get the original one.
Cake tits.
Let me find it.
It was like she was baking a cake video, right?
But it was very obvious, like a thirst trap.
But conservatives will die on the hill of women like thirst trapping.
So what they'll do, the conservative women will like take it to the edge.
They'll like be as sexual as they can without overtly thirst trapping, but it's very obvious what they're doing to like, and I'm not even saying they shouldn't do it.
You know, I do have some sort of respect for the women that like Fox News, the girls with big boobs that would just be, you know, but we knew what they were there for.
Of course.
So this was the TikTok.
And it was basically like, this was the center of the video.
And there was like, you could barely see the cake in it.
Sounds about right.
If you can see the no, yeah, I get it.
Yeah.
And so this is what she went viral for.
Now, this girl went like crazy, right?
So she was so angry that we were pointing out that she was thirst trapping.
I didn't say don't thirst trap.
I just said, come on.
Like, we know what.
But come on, she watched that back before she posted it, right?
Yeah.
Like, unless she's so dumb, she doesn't know how to frame a camera angle.
And all the conservatives said, oh, she's just baking a cake.
Can't you just stop sexualizing her?
Oh, my God.
So, anyway, so this is these e-girls go into these industries and they legitimately are worshipped so much that they think that they're eight pluses.
And I do have examples of eight pluses so we can see the difference.
Right.
But my point is, if she really was an eight plus, you wouldn't need that much makeup.
Eight pluses don't need it.
Right.
They don't need a pound of makeup because they're that beautiful.
Yep.
You know, like Megan Fox in her prime, she didn't need a lot of makeup.
Yep.
Now she put it on as she got older.
But so anyway, so this is going viral where she's.
Yeah.
You know, I'm base and steak.
So my friend.
I mean, if she was really base, she'd be cooking the steak at home, right?
For a man.
I know, I know.
Anyway, so I put example of a six.
Now, I'm not trying to attack her.
I consider a six to be cute, right?
Right.
Now, but these women get so angry that I call them a six that they just go find these like ugly pictures of me online.
They go, this other one called me a man, you know.
I did point out that she did hook up with this guy in a hot tub, allegedly, you know, but that's a different story.
So, now, anyways, her and this other girl, also, another one, they all have the same look.
Now, again, this is an attractive woman, but this is a six.
And I'm going to show you an eight so we have a comparison.
But the reason I say because she's got the heavy makeup again, they don't use the heavy makeup if they don't need it.
Good body, but like slightly overweight, you know, like it's just not what I would see as like the Pamela Andersons of the eight.
Like, she's not going to be on Playboy, right?
You have to be an eight plus to make Playboy, but you can be a right-wing e-girl, right?
Right.
You know, like clearly a filter.
I mean, you get it.
So, and really what they do is they get a lot of clout and attention, and that's fine, but you can't let it go to your head.
Do you know what I mean?
Of course.
They start to think they're as intelligent as the men around them.
Sad case.
Do you know what I mean?
I don't mind if you know your role.
You know, you know, she's there to be hot.
Right.
You know, and I'm sure a guy trained her well.
She might be above average, you know, and she's, it's entertainment.
I don't mind.
What can we call this what it is?
So then, um, again, I rate her.
I say this is an example of a six.
Not meant to be mean, but I like to have examples.
Oh, I guess I don't have this.
She proceeded to call me a man.
Now, I do want to, I do want to show examples of sevens and eights.
This is an eight plus.
That's beautiful, right?
This is a woman facially at least.
I can't really see her body.
Right.
That she could model.
She could be in Playboy.
She could, she could just live being hot and providing no value.
The conservative commentators have to provide very little, but some value.
Yep.
Next, we got another.
I put her, the only reason I put her at like eight level, eight, eight, nine, because remember, tens and nines and tens are like damn near don't exist.
You have to have a butt.
I don't think she has butt.
I think she just has just from this, she looks hot.
Yeah, beautiful.
Like eight plus is like, that's what I put as the beauty.
You see the difference?
Right.
Beautiful category.
Six, like four to sixes, sevens are like almost beautiful.
So sevens are like, they there, but there's something missing.
Anyways, let me go the this was, I thought she was eight to ten at a glance.
She got me because she has a very good body.
Right.
I got fooled.
That's a six with a good body.
You can't with that nose.
Now, I'm not saying like, again, she's good looking above average.
I'd put her seven.
I'd say set like seven range.
I just escaped mid.
Yeah, like, but she could get in the same room as the women we showed before.
Yeah, like if I invited a bunch of girls to a boat, she would still make the cut.
Yeah, and the other thing is, too, the problem is the mids get invited on the boat because America's so fat.
Yeah, so yeah, do you know what I mean?
Like, if everyone wasn't fat, like, they wouldn't get on the boat at all.
Right.
Which also makes the girls who are mid think they're hot because there's so many mids on the boat.
But the mids are on the boat to be easier than the eight to ten.
They're there for easy access.
Right.
Well, and sometimes what you do is you would bring a mid on the boat.
So then the hot girl gets jealous of talking to the mid and you're into the mid.
So some of it's strategy.
Yeah, I mean, and there's no downside to having mid, like more women.
Yep.
But it makes them think they get all this stuff.
Yeah.
So then, so this was another one.
At least no one confused me for a man.
Now they always ratio me and they ratio me because conservatives will die on the hill of women thirst trapping.
So again, you know, she had this dress and she's going to like conservative functions dressed like this.
Now I don't really have a problem with it.
I'm not a prude.
You know, it is like I'm not, I'm not a virtue.
It is what it is.
I just point out like this is what she's doing.
They find some picture of me at a concert from like three years ago.
Totally fine.
But like, but it's like when you go to like some conservative Trump event, that's what you're complaining about, right?
That's what I'm complaining.
It's the, it's the, can we just say what it is?
Yeah.
Like, I wouldn't really care if you know she was just out in the open with her tits.
I feel like that would be more honest.
Stick them out.
It's time.
But what I don't like is you're going to thirst trap and pretend you're not.
Right.
Just say, yeah, look hot.
That would have ended it.
Yeah.
I think that being at a conservative event like that, acting like you're not playing that card, it's a little crazy.
Yeah.
So that's what I have on the life cycle of mids.
That's really, I rate a lot of women on my Twitter.
I, this girl fooled me, I will say.
I thought she was a seven.
Upon further inspection, I cropped out.
I think her face is a is a strong six.
I think it's it's yeah.
And there's a lot of makeup going on.
I know that's what I she fooled.
She fooled me.
I think, and so I said seven if she actually looks like that.
But the further away you are, the more they can get away.
It's like a seven, but upon further inspection, six, seven.
But I like to give two ratings so I can say it's dependent on how she looks in real life, obviously.
But this actually is why I did a catfish of the year.
And this was like mids being exposed.
You know, we thought they were, here we go.
Yeah, so this was an award I did.
And I said, now it's 2024 is coming to a close.
It's time to vote for the most important award, Catfish of the Year.
And I want to give a special thanks to the fillers, plastic surgeons, and FaceTime app that I meant FaceTune app that makes this all possible.
Please vote by liking and retweeting the lovely ladies in the thread.
This got community noted.
That's how much they'll die on women thirst trapping.
So she won the competition.
This woman's insane.
The red-headed libertarian.
Wow.
It's pretty bad, right?
That's a big difference.
It's like two, she looks like Kathy Griffith or something in the second one.
Like, it's like a big difference.
And then she says I'm attacking her because I noticed.
I'm like, what are you?
Now here's Sidney Sweeney.
Now, again, you know, hot, she's definitely hot.
But facially, that's a mid.
That's a six facially with big boobs, which brings her to the strong seven category.
Seven, eight.
Luckily, we're in America, so she's treated like a nine, right?
Yeah.
We're in America.
So, um, Paige Spinnerack, you got this, did that.
This one wasn't terrible, but you see the difference.
Um, yep.
This one was pretty bad.
She had us fooled.
I thought she was like a Puerto Rican bombshell.
Wow.
Yeah, I mean, she's still cute.
Disparity between the photos, right?
It's the disparity.
Could you make me a Zoom link?
I'm going to have actually have Doug, just Doug call in on this and give his thoughts.
Doug MPA.
Sabrina Carpenter.
Again, you know.
She's still kind of young, right?
Yeah, this one.
Well, this one, I didn't realize she was 15, so don't say anything.
Just the disparity.
Like, it just looks different.
This one.
I forgot her name.
I didn't feel like finding it.
Courtney Nil.
She wasn't too bad, but I can tell she's like kind of fat in real life because like she's sucking in.
You know, this is that's a gut.
I mean, then we have this one who there's worse ones I found later.
But yeah, we got, you know, again, cute, but just not.
This one was pretty bad.
Another thing is that that eyes, like the eyes difference is, is wild.
Yeah, what they'll do is they'll say that the photos were altered and edited.
That's what they'll say.
But they're usually not.
They're just ugly.
That's typical gaslighting, right?
The one where they look good is probably the most edited one, right?
Yeah, yeah.
See, like this is her on a show.
Yeah.
Again.
This one was pretty bad.
You see, we got the, I mean, that's like two points.
This one.
This one.
Ada DeLuch.
Yeah, and that's all the thirst.
That's mids, you know.
That's the.
I'm going to read the chat on the website, which, guys, if you have a comment, question, or concern, go to the website.
You do get unlimited super chats on the website normally.
You do have to, you know, YouTubers that you have to pay to have everyone read, but this time, anything I say.
Checking in.
Let's see.
Okay, let me see if anyone has a thing.
Name some celebrities that are mid.
Scarlett Johansen.
I want to put her at an eight.
I mean, body-wise, at least.
Demi Moore.
I don't know who that is.
Demi.
Demi Moore.
Yeah, I would put her as a mid.
A strong mid, though.
Let me see, young.
Yeah, she's a strong mid.
That's like a six, six, seven range.
A Scarlet.
I might have to disagree on Scarlett Johansson.
Not now.
Obviously, now she's a mid, but young.
I'm going to put her seven, eight, seven, eight.
What do you think?
Yeah.
Someone in the chat made a really funny, funny point, which is like, if you give, if you gave me two shots of whiskey, my numbers would go higher.
Rachel Weeds, young.
She's pretty.
I would put her in the same category.
I put her as eight.
I put Scarlett as an eight, but maybe you guys disagree.
Women, we have a tendency to overrank face and underrank bodies.
Holy, did you call Billie Eilish a six?
That ugly bitch is a four.
Billie Eilish is like, I also don't think she's like, she tries to play like she's a lesbian.
I don't think she is, but yeah.
Sarah Jessica Parker, I mean, she's like a 5'4.
Something I've noticed.
Aging hits the hot girls a lot harder than the mids and ugly ones.
You know what, Anna?
I noticed this too, and I have two theories.
So I've noticed mids age better.
Now, I can't, I have three theories as to why.
One, we just don't notice it as much because there's not much of a drop.
A six becoming a five, Pamela Anderson becoming a five.
That's noticeable.
Right.
That's theory one.
Theory two is that the hot women can make more bad decisions than they do.
And so, you know, they have the opportunity to like do coke to like, like they have the opportunity to make terrible decisions and still get a husband or whatever they want at the end.
Right.
That's a lot of power.
And I could see them making bad decisions like single motherhood, drugs, whatever, prostitution.
And probably they're getting with richer guys.
So the guys also are afraid of losing half.
Where like if it's like a mid-girl marrying like a mid-guy, it's like, you know, it's less of a drop.
Well, I think sometimes the mids have to work harder at like, like they don't make as many decisions that age them.
This is true.
Potentially.
This is, I don't know.
These are working theories I have.
Theory three is that what was the third one?
That they, the decisions, the drop-off is just more, or this is in my head and I'm making it up.
That's, it's one of the three.
What do you think?
Do you think mids age better?
And if so, why do you think?
Yeah, but I think it's because hot girls, they, they get so desperate that they're losing their attractiveness.
So like you said, they they can't believe because their life was so crazy in their early 20s that they get really desperate.
So I've seen really pretty girls get, they had a perfect nose and then they get a nose job when they're like 35.
And now the nose looks ridiculous.
It was totally fine before.
They now have to do all this lipo, this Botox.
Ozempic, they take Ozempic to the max, but they were already skinny.
So they can't get over the fact that the heydays are over.
And I think that's why the hot girls fall off a cliff.
That's a good, that's a good analysis because, I mean, you see a lot of the sex symbols, like they'll kill themselves in their mid-30s, like Marilyn Monroe.
Oh, of course.
Amy Winehouse.
Like, I mean, it'll be drug, but, you know.
Yeah.
No, it's a hard.
I mean, imagine like where they were at 21, like the life they lived and then having to get over that.
Anna says mids win in the long run if they are a good person and had realistic expectations.
I don't really agree with you, Anna.
I don't think most mids will win.
I think that's kind of like, that's what Hollywood's trying to sell you, right?
Because they have Taylor Swift.
So Taylor Swift is like every woman's dream.
Right.
And she'll probably, she could have a kid with like to be a mid, date all the hot men in Hollywood and land Travis Kelsey at the end.
Right.
That is a mids dream.
Right.
She won the lotto.
Yeah.
And she could still, because of the circle she runs in, probably get another guy.
I mean, obviously it's not going to be as good as her 20s, but I mean, there's guys will date Taylor Swift.
There's, of course.
It just is what it is.
Like, she's in those circles, whatever.
So they sell this to us, but most mids are not going to pull this off.
Most mids are not going to win.
Most mids are not going to bat out of their league.
If you're not really a naturally charming mid at a young age or you haven't put in a lot of work to just really study men, I don't see most of them beating out hotter women.
I just, I see porn stars and OnlyFans models getting there.
I see the hotter women.
I mean, if the guy's got a pick between a frumpy mid and a hot woman, he'll do it, but it's only after he's been burned.
Like, and like, he'll try the hot women until he has no other choice.
Right.
Or like he gets demoted, like something bad happens.
He starts, you know, he starts losing the social status.
Yeah.
You know, then it's like, all right, time, time to lower the bar.
Yeah.
But most mids end up with mid husbands, even the good one.
I mean, it just, I mean, women always date up, so they'll get one to two points, but I just don't really see them batting crazy out of their league.
Name a hot, okay, wait, wait.
Let me, Pearl, I give you credit on this.
She looks innocent.
I always liked Dan.
Okay, there's four levels.
One, getting treated like a god, six to ten.
Two, getting treated like a woman, one to ten.
Three, getting treated like a man.
Four, getting treated like a fat guy.
The levels for what?
Pearl Reed, whores are better than fake tradcons.
Whores have bright hair tattoos, piercings, and indicators where you can see them coming.
Fake tradcon women do not.
Pearl, don't forget about Michael Knowles.
That's another sympathy here.
Yeah, all of them.
Pearl, I think she might be a seven.
You're just not getting laid enough.
I'm sorry.
My ratings are right.
Now, they probably get upset when they get called mid because they're used to their friends lying to them and telling them they're hot.
And the thing is, you know where you stand based on your results.
Look, okay.
When I was in London, I had this woman that I was friends with, and she wasn't, she was an eight, and she was beautiful.
And wherever she, we would go, men would just stare at her.
Right.
And how could I not notice?
Right.
Like, how could I not, like, it wasn't like they were mean to me or anything, but it's just like, I knew their first pick, at least off the bat.
Now, sometimes the eight can do something terrible to be so unlikable that they start giving the mid more attention.
But it's like they have to do something to mess it up.
It's true.
It just is what it is the same way.
But girls lie to each other, right?
So like it's almost better for a girl to tell a mid she looks phenomenal because they don't want competition.
What if the mid starts getting her makeup better and like her clothes better?
And like, I feel like hot girls are going to tell mid girls, no, you look, you're so hot because they don't want more competition.
Yeah, like the one that's always has the fat or ugly friend.
Yeah.
So, and they always cock block.
Always.
Always.
That's why the secret guys is always hit on the fat, ugly one first.
That's always the secret.
And then and then you kind of circle to like, oh, we should all hang out.
Then you get the hot girls' info.
Yeah.
So there's all the strategy, but I'm going to throw this out there.
Here's my 10.
1970s Linda Carter, Wonder Woman.
I don't, Linda Carter.
Let's see what she looks like.
This is your 10.
Yeah, I'll give you that.
She's beautiful.
Yeah.
She's beautiful.
Yeah.
That's like perfect waste to hit.
Yeah.
Facially, I wouldn't give her a 10, but she's close.
I would give like eight, nine.
Yeah.
I'll give you that.
Can you please respond to my email?
I don't know what you're talking about.
Email me again and say this email and I'll look at it.
Having jealousy around you when you are seeing multiple people is never good.
Funny how a couple of shots turn those last three pictures into perfect tense.
Whiskey really is magic.
That girl is also photoshopped off the charts.
I'm tired of women saying they're single when they're really just divorced or in another relationship.
They bounce from man to man.
I guess we are featuring lower mids now.
Sometimes the hottest ones start off getting too much work done out of desperation and it backfires to make them look worse.
Yeah, because they have a more of an ego.
Like if you've never been the hottest one in the room, you can't miss it.
Right.
Because you've never had it.
Like, yeah.
And so that's why I find some small town girls don't do too well.
They go to the big cities and they can't take it.
So they go back to like Milwaukee or something.
Right.
Or like Michigan City.
Right.
If you have to go to a big city and be mid, go to San Francisco.
That's the secret.
Okay, let's see.
I meant win in the aging department, not husband.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I mean, to be honest, like I can think of two examples.
Like Pamela Anderson, I got to say, still looks better than most women her age.
Same with J-Lo, but then you got like Jessica Simpson looks terrible.
Awful.
Yeah, I do think mids age better.
I do.
I think they just, yeah, overall.
Taylor Swift looks like the average girl from Scranton, Pennsylvania.
Women are the reason why she is considered attractive, not men.
Yeah, but Doug, here's the thing.
Like, it's kind of a numbers game for women, too.
If you put her in enough rooms with high-value men, she's cute enough.
One of them's going to do it.
Like, Travis Kelsey has this crazy ex.
Like, he dated black women before Taylor Swift, right?
And there's nothing against black women, as you guys know.
I see there, we all, women are all nuts.
So this isn't, but he just had a, so I forgot her name, but some influencer chick that was just nuts to this day.
She's still talking about this guy like years later.
He came from that.
So he's looking for the mid to settle down with.
He's like, okay, I had these IG models.
What am I going to do?
Taylor Swift, okay, she might write a song, but he's not the type of guy that's really going to give a shit.
Like, okay, I get an album dedicated to me.
It's almost a badge of honor at this point.
Yeah, like he doesn't really care.
I think now there's enough songs on so many men with Taylor Swift.
Now it's just funny.
Yeah.
Because everyone knows it just can't be all these men are that shitty.
Yeah.
So like, I would love a songwriter.
That's like kind of hilarious though, you know?
Yeah.
And so, you know, I already know what the song title would be.
It'll be like Chivalry is dead, like, but spelt with my name, S-H-I-V.
I already know.
I already have it written into my head.
So, you know, so he doesn't care about that.
And she can't divorce scrape him.
Right.
So he could put her on alimony.
And if it works out, she could help him buy a football team.
But, you know, so he could be a team owner if he play, you know.
So it's kind of a win-win.
Like if she stays, cool.
If she leaves, like he, he can't get financially ruined by her.
Right.
Or it'd be more difficult.
Well, he won't get financially ruined, but I know when Ariana Grande split with her husband, she like only had to pay him a million.
Like somehow judges always allow the girls to get away with really small payments.
Like Kelly Clarkson didn't have to pay much and her husband was.
So I find like the prenups really work one direction.
Yeah.
It doesn't really work the other way.
But it's still, you're getting money.
That never happens.
No, I agree.
So it's still like a win because, yeah, like Ariana Grande's husband got cheated on.
But women cheat anyways.
Right.
Well, you know, well, the real win, in my opinion, is that now you're the guy who dated Taylor Swift or Ariana Grande.
So now it opens up all those women that are going to chase you.
Yeah.
So that's the thing.
You know, you're going to get screwed on, but you know, but hey, you're not going to lose money.
And now you're so high valued that like all the supermodels want you.
So it's, yeah, it's the worst thing ever as a clouded woman.
You know, all your exes will do better.
Yeah.
It's not if they'll do better, it's that they will.
Guaranteed.
Yeah, it's like guaranteed.
Pearl, look at Jerry Ryan.
She's a nine.
Taylor looks like the girl I went to high school.
But yeah, I mean, same.
Jerry Ryan.
Okay, young.
Obviously, not now.
But so, okay, Jerry Ryan, I wouldn't put her at a nine.
I would she's pretty attractive, but I, her eyes are too far apart.
I wouldn't put her at a nine.
Um, I'd put her at like uh eight.
I'd put her some of these.
I'd put her eight.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna stick to eight.
But now, how did she age?
Jerry Ryan old.
Now, again, this is still better.
This is kind of a great example, though, of like that kind of age, not bad.
Yeah.
Like, that's not, I mean, she's gonna be better looking than how old is she for 60.
That's she's gonna look better than most of the 60-year-olds.
Okay.
Um, she was Miss America.
I want to go back.
I can't, I kind of want to give her a nine, but I, my gut is telling me eight.
Because here she looks like a nine.
The hard thing, too, is we're just doing just looks, right?
We're not factoring.
No boobs.
Eight, sorry.
Final, final decision.
Uh, you got to have both to be a nine.
Nine plus, you need both.
I make no exceptions for this rule.
Um, I was always viewed litigation as a business tool.
However, the family courts really effed me in the rectum.
Monica, okay, let's see.
Monica Bellucci Young was a 9.5.
I don't know if I'd give her a 9.5.
Let me see.
Let me give her a 9.5.
Pretty symmetrical face, though.
Let me see.
It's hard from these like far away photos to tell.
Like that, I wouldn't.
I would put an eight, eight face, maybe nine body.
How old are eight?
Not, I mean, she's in the she's in the ball.
They're she's in the ballpark.
She's close.
Okay, she's an eight plus.
I put her in there.
But this is what I mean.
Like women, a lot of women used to look like this because they weren't fat.
Like if you look at like parties from the 70s.
Oh, everyone was kind of hot.
Yeah, like here, 1960s beach.
Well, and I actually think the natural look when everyone was natural and you didn't have this weird competition with all the duck lips and filler and stuff, it almost people only had one.
The girls really only had one move was just to be in good shape, right?
Like there, there wasn't eight trillion ways to modify your looks.
Now, obviously, we don't like the short hair, but like, I mean, there's not really a whale here, not a straight-up one.
I mean, here.
No.
I mean, like, this is going to be like back then, men had a ton of good enoughs.
And plus, like, yeah, plus, there's probably a there's just no up.
Okay, it was just, it was just, there was no social media to.
Look, and I have I've heard stories, I'll say, from older women.
Like, I talked to a woman recently in her like 70s and 80s.
Uh-oh.
Promise to God they're on the same BS.
They can just play.
Like, think about how much more they could get away with than women today.
Because there's no internet.
I mean, they could go bang, like, I mean, to be honest, like, boomer women are like the worst wives ever.
They all divorced their husbands.
That's true.
They probably, they all cheated for years.
Like, divorce, this marriage contract has gone on.
That's true.
You know, and they all pulled the fat grenade.
But at least they started then.
Right.
Which is rougher now.
Okay.
She's always rated a nine by the rating accounts.
Very natural beauty and natural curves too.
Heather Thomas.
You guys like seeing hot women, huh?
Thomas.
It just shows like the lack of talent today, to be honest.
Okay, let's do Heather Thomas Young.
I think she's got a better face than the other women you guys showed me.
But maybe like seven, eight?
Seven, eight.
I mean, they're all in the league, but my point is these were way more common.
Yeah.
Let me get Doug.
I'm going to send, I'm going to send Doug the Zoom link so he can comment.
All right.
Doug MPA, I'm sending you this now.
Oh, there's one more.
We can see the.
Oh, yeah, I showed that already.
Tell me what he gets on.
Pearl, can you talk about women invading male productive spaces and showing chaos in the mere presence?
Particularly a big issue in academia.
I don't even hear men want to collab with them.
Yeah, so this is what happens.
So men make something useful and interesting.
Now, I'd like to say, I did invade a male space, so I'd like to say this is a little hypocritical, but I don't care.
So, you know, but here's what happens.
Men make something awesome and cool.
So what happens is the women are like, oh, I want to be a part of that awesome, cool thing.
And that's totally understandable.
You know, like if Elon Musk was around here, you'd want to hang out with him.
Of course.
Yeah, I mean, it's totally, we get it.
So what happens is the women then, they go into the space and then they tone police.
So they say you can't talk like that.
And then what happens when they don't get the attention they used to get?
It's time to sue for sexual harassment.
Yep.
And usually if they become famous, it's off of men.
And then they usually credit them nothing.
And like, so essentially what will happen is they'll think they're like, you know, with Candace Owens in the Daily Wire.
You know, I mean, she thinks she got herself famous when really, I mean, let's just be honest here.
It was like she made money off of all the Jews and then turned on them after.
Right.
You know, the Jewish people.
They like she worked for Prager U Turning, which is all funded by that stuff.
And then it goes on the anti, you know, the pro-Palestine stuff after she's done.
Right.
It makes Ben Shapiro look like a crazy person.
Yeah.
And plays victim when it's like, you just, that would be, yeah, it would be like me making a talent and then then saying like anti-white stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like, I can't.
And then they think they're famous because, you know.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it's always that weird relationship, right?
It's the record label and the artist, but like the record label always looks like the bad guy.
But like the Taylor Swift scooter brawn thing, there's a documentary that's amazing on it that really shows how like Taylor Swift's dad's literally on the board of the record label.
Like they knew the whole time, but they just wanted to paint this picture that she's the victim.
So it's just how it goes.
Be a billionaire and be a victim.
Isn't that crazy?
A billionaire singing with a mid singing voice.
Oh my gosh.
And then she sued that guy for grabbing her ass.
I'm like, isn't that a little bit of an overreaction?
Yeah.
I mean, the only smart thing she did with that was she didn't sue for money.
I think she sued for like a dollar.
Yeah.
So like I give at least some credence.
Like if she tried to like take that guy financially to the ground, I would be like, come on.
But no, it's just, I just think there's a lot of in this space.
Like, I mean, how many women have grabbed men's junk on promote?
Yeah.
So it's like all the time.
Doug MPA, what are your thoughts on the topic?
So the mids, more and more mids.
Okay.
Remember, mids used to be able to win a lot more before social media.
Okay.
Because the worst part about being a mid is the delusion.
Okay.
And then the humbling that mids get when they move to a major city and they see really attractive women and the results they get.
And then over time, they realize they can't get it.
And then all of the things they put themselves through to keep up with attractive women.
So you named them all.
I mean, they'll get plastic surgery.
They'll be promiscuous to try to sleep their way up to the attention of attractive women.
It just ends up getting dug out.
And they usually have to end up, they get too old and have to leave a major city with a bunch of trauma and stuff.
So the other thing, too, the mids could have shoot for the stars before and no one would know.
Where now, like, if you date a guy, I mean, it's way easier for the men to find out who you dated in the past because you have a digital footprint.
Do you know what I'm saying?
So like before, a mid could like, she could go to Toronto, try for all the high-value men there.
Anyway, I don't know what she was doing in France.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, I don't.
And then she said, I'm going to New York.
Let me start over.
I love, I'm Melanie.
Met their husband, but they left him behind to try to be a strong, independent woman or go for the, you know, Instagram clout or whatever.
And mids are the prime example.
Most mids met a guy that they could have built a good, that they could have been a good wife to in college or maybe when they started their careers or whatever, but they tried to go to the big cities and get themselves a man that was never going to take them seriously.
Yeah.
And the ones, the ones that do win, like Elon Musk's favorite baby mama, they have to humble themselves.
They have to ask for very little.
Like she, she got in the door by asking for so little.
Like she just said, please be my sperm donor.
And then he would come over to watch the kid.
Do you want some cookies?
And then like, you know, she's like, oh, he's just, you know, he's so amazing.
He's just, you know, he's running around.
Oh, you came over.
Do you want a massage?
Her only plan is hoping that kid has the same genius.
Like, well, she got four out of him.
Right.
So one out of four have to be smart enough to care about mom, right?
Well, and she's.
I just don't know about the one out of four thing because remember, one of his kids is a transformer.
So one out of three.
That's a crazy mom, though.
This one, if she plays her and she's getting the commitment and she starts like, the problem is he elevated the other ones too high.
And the other thing was like Grimes, you know, Elon wants to build rockets.
So how is Grimes going to do in like the middle of nowhere, wherever the hell Tesla is?
Like some suburban Texas.
Yeah, like she's, he's, she's thinking she's going to get this rock star lifestyle, the events.
He's working 12 hours a day at his, like building rockets.
So she gets out of that.
It's like Ashley St. Clair.
Is Ashley St. Clair a mid?
Where would you rate her?
Six.
Six.
Yes.
Five, six.
So she's mid, but she's the ultimate example where she literally thought that Elon was going to make her number one rocket wife.
And now she's all scorn.
Shabby was talking about.
No, I'm sorry.
Pro was talking about you can be a billionaire and be a victim.
We're going to have to see what the richest man in the world, how he navigates America's paternity court.
Because most of the rest of his kids he had in Texas.
And Texas has a child support cap of like $2,800 a month.
Yeah, she's crazy for any girl who gets with a guy who already has like 12 kids or whatever, and then is shocked.
It's like, really?
Yeah, Siobhan played her cards right because she expected nothing.
She went in and said, look, I'm running out of time.
I'm about to be 40.
I'm like, I'm, my, my days are numbered to have children.
I will be happy with a sperm donation and let me be so nice to him and help his company so much that maybe he'll stick around and be a father figure and maybe I can get a relationship out of this later.
That was genius.
Yeah.
Genie, she went to the place in Texas where Grimes, you know, he dealt with these hot women and they couldn't deal with the lifestyle.
She said, I will, I want to help you get to Mars, baby.
Yeah, what could Grimes do in corporate America for Elon?
Absolutely nothing.
I mean, absolutely, absolutely freaking nothing.
Honestly, too, like the reason why men on, like in general, are happier than the women is because we expect so little and we have no entitlement.
And that's like the secret of happiness, right?
But if you expect to go to Mars, you're going to be in depression for the rest of your life.
Like, look at this.
These are family photos.
You see this?
Yep.
I mean, this is a, she got a family photo out of this publicly.
Like, she is the public, you know, and I mean, she's, she's cute, but this isn't like beautiful, right?
He had Amber Heard and she, that, how did Elon Musk not get burned by Amber Heard?
He didn't get her pregnant.
You know, nothing $400 billion in net worth can't fix, right?
It's hard to think about getting burnt when you have real problems.
You know what?
Pro, you're right, because Amber Heard has changed her name.
What did she change her name to?
Amber Heard, new name.
Oh, God.
Oh, she's Martha Jane Canary now?
No way.
Yeah, she changed her name.
Yeah.
Embracing a new identity after her high-profile legal bags with John Depp.
Amber Heard is embracing a new identity as Martha Jane Canary.
Amber Heard is stepping into a new chapter of her life.
So she's not going to be able to work in Hollywood anymore.
She's one of the most despised women on the planet.
She just got a rocket baby and cashed out.
Look at this.
She got to meet.
He took her to meet because she's half Indian, I think.
And so he took her to meet the Indian prime minister.
Wow.
And now, and Ashley St. Clair, he like ghosted her and left her in New York with the kid.
And, you know, all she asked for, all she asked for was to be a IVF baby mama.
That was all she asked for.
And like, she's classy.
And, you know, she's, she's so cool.
She's a hockey player.
She set the record for like goalies for like hockey at Harvard.
And she scored the ultimate goalie, Elon, right?
Bam.
Did you see that?
Did you see that?
She sued for child support in New York, but they can't serve Elon because he's in the Capitol.
He's in the White House and the Capitol building so much that the security is so tight that they won't let the legal service go out of the property to serve him his papers.
That is hilarious.
It is so funny.
But yeah, you know, the story of mids, you know, up until about the 2000s, there was literally a path for a MIG.
They got a good life with a good man, you know, maybe making $80,000, $70,000, $80,000 a year.
And that range, a little more than the average guy.
And they would just, but social media got them all messed up.
Or they would go be a secretary.
Right.
Yeah.
My father, you know, like an LPN or something like that, you know, like a licensed practical nurse, something where it would give them room to be able to raise the kids on, or like a teacher or something like that when they got married to a guy of value.
But now mids are just so delusional.
And then when they smash into the wall, they look back on just like a wasted, all the opportunities wasted.
Most of them met their husbands.
Most of them should have just humbled themselves earlier.
But, and, and now mids just hold on way too tight for way too long.
Right, but it's because they live vicariously.
Like back in the day, no mid even knew what a private jet looked like.
They didn't know what Nobu looked like.
They didn't know what anything, any of these things looked like.
Now they see it all and then they see these other girls.
And what they probably do is they look at the one mid who pulled off a high value, a super high value man.
And they think, oh, why can't I be that one?
So I think, yeah, all this doom scrolling, they just kind of fantasize about this life that was never going to happen for them.
So for every one mid that wins, it gives that hope and possibility to thousands of millions.
Tens of thousands of mids all over the country.
Yeah, it's like, okay, yeah, Siobhan won, but did you graduate from Yale?
Would start your career at IBM, serve as a project director for Tesla.
Are you Siobhan?
Like, I think she came from money.
She was Forbes' 30 under 430 list of venture capitalists.
I don't know what that means, but she was also rich.
Yeah, she was also LinkedIn's 35 under 35.
Like, I'm like, are you, did you do all that stuff?
I mean, and also, she was willing to put up with Elon.
A lot of these mids, they don't understand.
Who do you think is more likely to put up with the type of behavior that comes with a billionaire or like a hundred millionaire?
Right.
Attractive woman or a mid.
Well, well, if the attractive woman's smart, the problem now is that people want these, like, they want Elon Musk, but then they don't want to go through what Elon Musk goes through.
So it's like, wait a minute, it makes no sense.
Like, oh, Elon's not available.
Of course, he's not available.
Of course, he's going to be busy.
What did you think?
The guy bought Twitter as a joke.
And then he pulled it off.
Like, this guy makes a tweet and buys billion-dollar things.
And like, he's always creating stuff.
He's trying to build these robots.
He's trying to go to space.
But of course, these hot girls, they go get Elon Musk.
And then they're like, he's not spending time with me.
It's at this point.
He's cheating.
Obviously, he's cheating.
Yeah.
Siobhan, like if you said that to her, she'd say, I know.
Elon's building these optimist robots so he can cheat with the robots because he's so tired of the game.
Like, that's where that guy's at.
But it's crazy because, like, Ashley St. Claire, no makeup.
Hold on.
Oh, share the screen.
I want to see that.
Had I ever seen her without makeup?
I want to find.
Oh, this is you can see a better picture.
So, this is them together.
Look at her.
Look at how she looks at him.
Look at that.
Yeah, she was.
Elon's face is like he cheated on her 20 minutes before the photo was taken.
They probably had sex outside the party before they walked in.
Right.
Look at that.
She's looking at him like a piece of meat.
Yeah, but look at the catfish.
So that to that, such a catfish.
She looks like an eight there, but like she's not.
Find a woman that looks at you like Assyria St. Claire looks at Elon Musk.
Let me do.
I want to do, wait, trigonometry.
These simps, I want to put no.
My laptop's glitching.
Dang it.
We got to take it off.
I can't show it because this is about to glitch out.
It's fine.
Let me try it.
Are you going to show her trigonometry?
I can't.
I can't.
I'm just a total trad con fake.
And she's like, my laptop's doing it again.
I can't.
My laptop's been like glitching today where it like can't.
I don't know what it's doing.
So annoying.
Yeah, I think it's like there's a button that keeps getting stuck.
Let me try it again.
Pearl, at what age?
Oh, here we might have got it.
Okay.
Go ahead.
At what age do you think?
Okay, so Kevin Samuels had the danger zone from like 27 to 35.
What age do you think that mids really need to cash out before they start living that life of misery?
It doesn't matter.
They'll push it off as far as they can.
I could argue that mids actually have a little, like, have more time, right?
Because hot girls, like, the fall is so dramatic, and then they can't psychologically deal with it when they were on a yacht and now they have to date a normal, like a more normal guy.
So I think the mids actually, in the weirdest of ways, they can go to 35, you know?
Like, they can go, they can go longer and older.
But that's my theory, you know, and I'm, but who knows?
That's true because it's like the eight is missing out on a 10 if she doesn't cash in fast.
But it's like the six maybe will get an eight.
And then, what the heck?
Okay.
And then, wait, hold on.
Let me find this.
Look, it's so funny.
I think this is the most, I've never seen a woman crash out so bad.
Woman versus where is, I thought she like complained about red pill on this here.
It is not an easy thing to be married.
You actually have to put in the work.
And so often we're watching people replace what is happening.
She's seven months pregnant in this interview, too.
With what's comfortable and more of a dopamine hit.
And I got a double chin and she nabs.
I think we're still actually, I don't know that there is this return to tradition, return to traditional marriage and general monogamy.
I don't know that that's possible in the digital world because, again, we've replaced what's good for our souls with this dopamine rush, with this digital era, with this everything.
Yeah.
Shut up.
I'm just kidding.
Like, I feel like she, yeah, the zero to a hundred that she's made online is crazy.
Yeah, no, she was on top of the world.
She was kind of his main chick, I think, for like a very brief period because, um, I mean, he was tweeting at her publicly and like flirting with her publicly.
Yeah, but what comes fast goes fast.
Siobhan played the long game.
She said, I don't even see you hooking up with this girl.
I don't see it.
I don't see it.
How do you think it, how do you think it ended between Ashley St. Clair and Elon where she could be doing all this?
Do you think that he just goes through and just stopped picking up the phone?
Yeah, I think he just ignored her.
I think Grimes, he did the same thing.
I think men like him, they're just not going to argue.
They have too much stuff to do.
So if you come at them in that way, they will just like leave.
You have to understand too for Elon.
If he has to waste 15 extra minutes of his life arguing with her, that's it's cheaper for him to get sued in court.
Like, that's how much time you wasted of the guy.
You know, so he's like, he'll just be like, peace out.
Like, even if I lose 40 million, my 15 minutes is worth more than that.
Like, I was about to cure cancer and then you fucking can't make me, you know, blah, And so, yeah, that's, that's how I think his personality is.
Like, just do what I say or just out.
I'm out.
The other interesting thing about Elon is he's always complaining about the birth rate.
But I'm like, you know, you're lowering the birth rate when you take other men's wives.
I'm not saying that he shouldn't, right?
I'm not saying that this is wrong of him.
I'm not like morality, but Ashley St. Clair 50 years ago would have been an average man's wife and now she's your baby mama.
So like she's going to have one kid with you, where 50 years ago, she might have had five with an average guy.
To play devil's advocate.
Now she has notoriety.
Well, I guess, like, aren't people still dating Amber Heard now?
Like, it's, I feel like it's almost like because she has notoriety, she can now find a mid person.
There's going to be some weird guy who's just going to be happy she got her because she hooked up with Elon.
And then the guy feels like, wait, I got with the same girl got with Elon.
That must make me more valuable.
So there might be some simple.
No, no, someone will always do it.
Right.
Of course.
There's old men.
There's fat men.
There's like.
But now she's going to, she's probably going to still outkick her coverage because she has all this notoriety.
And some guy is going to be like, maybe some guy wants to eventually do business with Elon.
So it's like, I will just put up with this girl and marry her and have kids with her.
So one day I could be in a room with Elon for like child, you know?
Yeah.
Look.
So, but my, my point is more, it's not like they push traditionalism, but that's not traditional, like baby mom, you know.
I'm not saying they should or shouldn't do it.
Like, who can say what you would do in his shoe?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, exactly.
Like, you got all these e-girls coming for you.
But I just, I, it's like they always will nag men on the timeline, like saying, don't like, why don't the men want to get married?
And I'm like, you're taking their wives.
Right.
Like, you're, I mean, there's Grimes could have been someone's wife.
Heard could have been, yeah, I mean, but you get the idea.
Yeah.
I'm calling it right now.
Um, Ashley St. Clair is going to find some Trad Con simp.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Just like Nala.
I'm telling you, because this girl has, that's the only way.
She has two kids by two different men.
She's going to find some TradCon influencer dude or something like that.
Right.
Like another Charlie Kirk type.
He's probably going to be a virgin.
He's like a 28, 29-year-old virgin.
He's going to marry Ashley St. Clair and they're going to go all in on this.
We're a, you know, we're a traditional conservative couple all over social media.
I'm calling it right now.
Watch.
Yeah.
Well, good luck to you, Ashley.
I hope you figure it out.
Sounds like not my problem.
Do you guys have any final thoughts on the topic of mids, Doug?
Do you want any final thoughts?
Yeah, social media is ruined mids.
Remember, women operate on possibility and modern women think that anything's possible, but especially mids.
You know, mids get enough attention where they're just delusional.
They're possibilities.
So, but that's, yeah, social media is ruined mids.
If they're just humble and they accept where they are, that the earlier, the better, they can win because they get more attention than the average woman, but they just don't get enough as much attention as the attractive women.
What about you?
Any final thoughts, Shiv?
I think every mid girl should model these mids I've made, like model Siobhan, right?
Like, look.
Who would you tell the mid to go after?
What billionaire, millionaire, like, who, what famous person?
Bill Gates is right now kind of on the market.
You know?
Like, all I'm saying is, like, you know, that it doesn't take much looks to make Bill Gates, you know.
I mean, look, he was married to Melinda.
Not the not the easiest thing to look at.
So, like, I think, look, Bill Gates, figure it out.
Doug MPA, who would you put?
Um, what?
Who would you tell the mids to go after right now?
I'd say Bill Belichick, but he already has a mid.
So, who would you tell him now?
He's like 72 with like a 26-year-old, like a 26-year-old mid.
Who's an eligible bachelor that you'd say to go after?
Uh, who's a good one?
Uh, oh, what about um Travis Kelsey's brother?
Is he married?
Oh, is he?
Oh, I didn't know.
Um, I don't know.
That's a good question.
I don't know.
I don't keep track of single men.
Sorry.
Okay.
Well, who else?
Bezos is taken.
Who are the other billionaires?
I don't know if this is true.
Someone correct me if wrong.
I think Warren Buffett is in like an open relationship.
And Warren Buffett's really rich.
And he's like 90.
He's like, he's about to die soon.
So that's a bag that, like, that's a easy career path right there.
I could be mistaken, but he's quote unquote.
94.
But he's quote unquote married, but I could have sworn if you type in Warren Buffett open relationship, I know he had.
I mean, he's that rich.
He's yeah, but I'm pretty sure he.
Okay, pro shiv, are you ready?
So most eligible billionaires.
Okay.
They're all single.
Elon Musk, right?
Okay.
Jack Dorsey.
Twitter.
Twitter founder.
Brian Chesky.
He's the CEO of Airbnb.
Jack Dorsey.
Oh, he's young, too.
No, Brian.
Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.
Jack Dorsey, yeah.
He's 46.
All right, mids in the chat.
And then Brian Chesky.
All right, Brian Chesky.
What does he do?
Airbnb?
Yeah.
He kind of looks like a player, though.
I mean, they all are, but.
I mean, they got to have kids with someone.
It's true.
Sell dreams.
Sell mids.
I mean, these mids have want possibility.
Go ahead.
Who else?
Ken Griffin.
He's the founder of Citadel Advisors Hedge Fund.
Doesn't he own like a ton of Bitcoin?
I think that's what he's known for.
I've never heard of him.
Oh, it says he's, oh, no, he's back in court fighting over his prenups.
Sounds about right.
That might be tough to get a second bag out of ladies.
Well, there's always.
You know what I would do?
I'm evil.
You got to make friends with the ex-wife because they'll complain about the husband, right?
And so you get all the stuff that he likes and be like, oh, I can't believe you're going to be able to do that.
Be the personal trainer.
Let me write that down.
Exactly.
He could be the what?
Jiu-Jitsu.
You could be the jiu-jitsu.
I'll spare in love and war, ladies.
Nicholas Bergman, B-E-R-G-G, R-U-E-N.
Nicholas B-E-R-G-G like George.
R-U-E-N.
Wait, B-R-G-G-E-R.
Wait, hold on.
I'm sorry.
Spell it one more time.
B, what?
B. Like boy, E like Edward, R like Roger, G like George, G like George.
R-U-E-N.
Nicholas Bergen.
Oh, this guy.
What did he do?
He owns a bunch of luxury hotels and property in New York City and Miami.
Okay, well, this is what you're going to have to.
So blondes, ladies, you got to look at the X's and see if you fall into the type.
Look at the X's and say, do I look like that?
Am I close to looking like that?
If not, get on the treadmill.
All mids should own a treadmill.
And then the last eligible bachelor is Tyler Perry.
But man, I don't, I think Tyler Perry swings for the other team myself, but that's just because he dresses like a woman all the time in all the movies.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, the blue I'm a deal on Halloween or whatever.
You know, I have YouTube, I have no evidence of that, but this is my opinion.
I think he swings for the other team.
I thought he I thought he just got married, or maybe it's someone else.
I could have sworn he just got married.
Some of these might be outdated.
Well, this is your competition, ladies.
Yeah.
So, I mean, she's kind of mid to me.
I mean, she's like a seven, I'd say.
What would you put her at?
Yeah, six and a half.
I could have sworn.
Now, I could be mistaken the people, but I could have sworn like they were together for like a hundred years.
Oh, she's really hot.
Yeah.
I feel like that's the new one.
Like, basically, she was with them for like 11 years and they finally got married, but there's a huge age difference between them.
I mean, this one's beautiful.
Yeah.
I think the age difference, though, does add a little bit of a curve for a guy.
Like, I feel like if I was like 60, I'd be so happy with like a 30-year-old mid if I wanted to keep having kids or something.
So, I don't know.
I think age puts some kind of grade point average curve on this.
Let me see his wife.
I could be mistaken.
Here is active.
His partner is, let's see who she is.
Oh, I think they broke up.
Okay.
I don't know.
Oh, she's a filmmaker.
Okay, again.
So, you know, she made herself useful.
She was like, I'm going to go be a filmmaker and a model.
Yeah, classic.
Classic.
Okay.
But I think that's all we got today.
Mids, you know, we love you here, but you're not going to convince me that you're beautiful when you're not.
Now, look, I did casting.
So I had to guess when I brought women on the show.
I would have to pick who sits in the middle and who sits on the side.
And do you know how I would pick?
By who is the hottest.
And I would have to think who's going to go on the thumbnail tonight.
And I would look at the ROI.
So if you're mid, it's all right.
You know, it's good.
It builds character, but please don't gaslight me and telling me that you are not a mid.
Just because America is fat, just because, you know how they say Michael Jordan's the best of all time because the league was the most competitive now.
And people know that LeBron's not.
Like, yeah, he's got the most points, whatever, but the league isn't what it was in the 90s.
It's the same thing with women.
This is the rec league.
It doesn't, we know what a good league would look like.
We've been to Miami.
We've been to Vegas.
Now, I understand that's not everywhere in the country.
And sixes will continue to get treated like tens.
But I just like to bring us back to reality and show this is what beauty is.
So any final thoughts, Shiv?
Sorry, I interrupted.
Just remember, if you're mid, you might not make Pearl's thumbnails, but you can get Elon Musk.
Doug MPA, you got anything else?
Shift said that up nice and perfectly.
Mids can win.
Your destiny is in your own hands, so you got to navigate smart.
And if the world tells you you're a mid, listen.
Play your cards right.
Look at Siobhan.
Embrace being a mid and then avoid a midlife crisis.
I'm here for all the dad corny jokes.
Yeah.
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