Pearl Daily’s call-in show dissects the U.S. TikTok ban debate—pending Supreme Court ruling on ByteDance’s January 19th divestment deadline—while tangentially critiquing Andrew Tate’s disputed wealth ($110M/year claims vs. Guardian’s Romanian debt revelations) and grooming allegations (2012–2015 charges, no convictions). Callers like Phil and Carlos dismiss the ban as overreach or futile, comparing it to failed cigarette bans or civil unrest risks, while John from Nevada insists on blocking China-linked data collection, even if Elon Musk hypothetically buys it. Cam warns of long-term cognitive and financial exploitation via TikTok’s invasive privacy policy (keystroke tracking, cross-device monitoring), though doubts immediate harm. The episode exposes contradictions: conservatives defending Tate’s alleged grooming tactics while ignoring systemic male accountability, and skepticism over whether the ban will even stick. [Automatically generated summary]
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So today I came in and I was totally expecting to only talk about the TikTok ban.
I mean, that is a huge story.
And as someone who started on TikTok, I do have a special place and have a special place in my heart for it.
But I also have a special place in my heart for simps.
And I think simps are a sad case because many of them just really need help.
They are willing to die on the hill of OnlyFans whores and women taking accountability for nothing while holding men accountable for everything.
Now, I saw a clip of Ben Shapiro talking about how the right should dump Andrew Tate.
Now, am I the right?
Am I not the right?
I don't know.
I guess I'm going to find out.
So let me play this video.
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I want to start today with a controversy that erupted online, but is sort of indicative of a broader problem that the right currently has with, say, the influencer class.
This controversy erupted because Benny Johnson had on Andrew Tate.
Andrew Tate, for those who don't know, is an online provocateur.
He is mostly famous for one time being a kickboxer, and now he sort of runs around with his shirt off, with fancy cars and good-looking women, and smokes cigars and says, is that a bad sell for?
Are young men gonna see this and be like huh, a guy who's jacked and runs around with sports cars and hot women?
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So Benny Johnson had on Andrew Tate and he also had on, at the same time, Alina Haba, who's a counsel for the Trump team, and Alina Haba was really praising Tate and so was Benny Johnson, and this erupted into a controversy.
Here's what that sounded like.
Nice to meet you.
I'm a big fan.
Well, nice to meet you, i'm a fan.
You're the one saving Trump.
You're doing more important work than me.
America America, not just Trump.
And I agree with everything you just said, and I think that you're now remember the way women dress.
They're signaling something.
So if she's going on a show with Andrew Tate and she's coming with her boobs out, what is that signaling?
I don't know you guys could be the detectives here, all right.
Or anger uh, is the same that president Trump has for our country, and the time is now for us to stop being wimps.
I think that's exactly the right sentiment, and I also have to say that I sympathize with you because I think you go through a lot of the same.
Show me the person, i'll find the crime that president Trump has gone through.
Okay, what Alina Haba is saying there is not actually true about Andrew Tate.
He is not of the same ilk as president Trump.
Find me the person and i'll find you the crime.
That is true of president Trump.
That is not particularly true of Andrew Tate.
And Russell Brand, of course, rushed to the defense of all of this.
Russell Brand then suggested that anyone who objected to the treatment of Andrew Tate on the right that they needed to sort of check their problems At the door, here was what Russell had to say.
Someone like Andrew Tate, with the audience he has, could make a significant difference if correctly backed.
He does say some stuff that's pretty out there.
But the fact is, in a democracy, if someone is able to glean popular support, they can have a mandate.
They should be represented.
I suppose what's more significant and interesting to me is the way that figures like Andrew Tate or Tommy Robinson have always been maligned, I think, to place an impassable threshold around systems of influence and power.
You can have your own views of Andrew Tate.
You might think he's misogynistic or vulgar, but the fact is, he appeals to a lot of people and he represents some things that a lot of people are very interested in.
Okay, so I think that the way that some people are defending Andrew Tate today is a conflation of a couple of different ideas.
So I think there is a big difference between having people on, have whoever you want on.
That's totally fine.
Free speech and all the rest.
That's totally fine.
And cheering on bad people who don't actually care.
But see, now what is he doing?
This is why people hate conservatives.
Okay, I'm going to.
Virtue signaling.
He's saying he's signaling, I am the more moral guy.
He is not as moral as me.
And what always tends to happen is later we find out, and I'm not saying this is true with Ben, but we often find out that they're not as moral as they've been signaling for years.
Because again, what is the money in signaling morality?
They think that they're the arbiters of morality about your principles.
And Andrew Tate is the latter.
Now, again, let me say right at the outset, I am not upset at all with anyone actually just interviewing Andrew Tate.
Go for it.
Have at it.
There are tons of excellent questions to ask Andrew Tate, but none of these people are asking.
But you can't get along with someone too well that I deem immoral.
I, as a grown man, am going to tell you another grown man how to run your show.
The audacity.
The audacity.
You have millions of people that watch you.
Why are you if he wants to bring him on and not ask him tough questions?
That's his choice.
Andrew Tate, any of those questions.
Instead, a lot of people are sort of glomming on.
Answer my questions.
I have the right questions.
I'm the smart guy.
I have all the right questions.
To his very online popularity in order to get clicks.
And some people are dishonestly conflating interviewing Andrew Tate with cheering for Andrew Tate or applauding him or talking about how brave and wonderful he is.
And Andrew Tate is not brave and wonderful.
He rips off thousands of people with his scam Hustlers University.
He preaches the virtue of treating women in a way you would never ever allow anyone to treat your wife or your daughter.
Now, I want to show you, you can tell, this is why I say money looks status doesn't mean somebody's red pill.
There's a lot of guys with money that get completely abused by women because they're blue pill and they think morality is bringing something to the table in dating.
There is zero morality in dating.
Women line up down the street for serial killers.
Even the so-called good women are programming, our hardwiring is the same.
No one is saying you can't have it.
You should do what you want.
What I'm saying is that if you say you're conservative and then you have someone who truly is disgusting on and you proceed to tout them, praise them, nod along to everything they say, cheer them, you're doing more than platforming, which again is fine.
Platforming, the idea that you can never have a conversation.
You can have a conversation with whomever you want, but there's a difference between having a conversation with a person and becoming a propagandist for that person.
If you're a person, for example, who purports to stand for biblical values or American values or traditional values, you probably have a more.
Again, this is just more virtue signaling.
I've had enough of the virtue set.
Like, this is where Daily Wire loses the plot.
It's just endless.
I am moral.
I am the moral one.
Moral obligation.
I probably certainly have a moral obligation to ask Andrew Tate, who is a self-stated bad man, hard questions about his actions and his beliefs and his past, not to, as so many on the right have, help him falsely rewrite his legal record or ignore all of the things he's actually said while nodding enthusiastically.
Now, right now, he is not.
That changes in the future.
We can revisit it.
But right now, he is a free man.
He has not been convicted of a crime.
And the other thing we all know is that when men are in the justice system, Conor McGregor just was found guilty in civil court.
I didn't think he was guilty of that crime either.
Okay, let's keep going.
See, here's the thing.
Andrew Tate, now he's trying to play himself off as a politician.
He's not.
He's an influencer.
He's an online troll.
That's really what he is.
Now he's trying to start some sort of party in the UK, but he's not a conservative politician.
Now, remember, Ben Shapiro didn't like Trump either.
And this is the challenge: guys like Ben and like the more of the dorky, nerdy guys, they never took the time to learn charisma and people skills because they just never had to.
They worked a lot of hours.
They never had to do it, right?
And so they get ticked off when the charming guys come in and get better results than them in all things.
When Tate comes in and has more influence than him.
When Tate comes in and is running for office.
Now, I'm not saying Tate's going to win.
I don't know.
I'm not.
I don't know if he has the right experience to be running to be a politician.
We'll see.
But I want to go more into the psychology of this.
For example, trying to push conservative policies, where part of the job of the interviewer is separating out his agenda from his personal behavior.
Like, what does the public get out of this person versus what they do in their private life?
That is a question typically reserved for politicians.
That's not what he is.
He's an online troll and he revels in precisely the evils conservatives hate.
That is his entire, like not some of it, his entire self-stated persona.
If you don't ask about that, you're not doing your job as a conservative.
Okay, Ben, where was this video for Nala who is grifting Christianity?
That was at your company.
Your company also falsely accused Steven Crowder of being an abuser.
You guys never issued a retraction ever.
So am I going to take you seriously when now you're virtue signaling about Tate?
I've seen his stuff.
He's really charismatic.
And for decades, the hatred of traditional masculinity in our society has been so strong, so thoroughgoing throughout the media, throughout politics, from our institutions, from our colleges, everywhere, that people, including people on the right, have run away from traditional masculinity altogether.
And they've sort of feminized what masculinity is supposed to be.
Now, we're going to go into this, right?
What he's going to do is he's going to, the only masculinity that's celebrated is going to be the masculinity that's in the service of women.
If there's any masculinity that benefits the man, like a man making a lot of money spending it on a fast car, he's going to shame it.
To conservatives, all things masculinity have to be spent on women.
Women can put themselves on OnlyFans.
But if a guy puts the woman on OnlyFans, if the guy says, you know what, let's make more money.
You can work for me.
That's part of masculinity.
If a guy chooses to sleep with multiple women, that's shame.
That said, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong.
But if women wait till 32 to have a kid, they don't bat an eye.
They don't say anything, even though women are essentially changing, or women are essentially doing the same thing.
Okay, let me keep going.
Young men for at least a generation, maybe two, have basically been told they were useless at best and toxic at worst.
And that leaves a giant vacuum, a vacuum for somebody who can sort of cosplay masculinity.
And Tate fills that vacuum with his form of masculinity.
But masculinity has good iterations and it also has really, really ugly iterations.
And the iteration that Andrew Tate pushes is not a responsible masculinity, a traditional masculinity that is all about channeling the sort of testosterone-fueled side of man into protecting women and children and civilization and building good things, but the kind of masculinity that tears everything good down, sort of barbarian masculinity that is interested in destroying rather than building.
And Andrew Tate plays a WWE heel.
He knows it.
I mean, he's not making any bones about this.
He released a video yesterday, a very long 21-minute video, rambling video, sitting in a jacuzzi in cold weather, smoking a hookah, and basically saying that he wants to be the most hated man on earth and that he makes money off of that.
And he's telling the truth about that.
That part is true.
And again, that's part of masculinity.
It's men don't care what other people think like women do.
Women are much more concerned about our reputation.
Some men, you know, they could be the most hated guy on the planet.
They don't care.
He doesn't mind.
But here is the thing.
Andrew Tate is at best a crap sandwich.
He presents totally differently to different audiences.
So for people, sort of traditional people on the right, when he's in interviews with them, he will present as a sort of low-rent, anti-feminist talking head.
Doesn't know much, but he's saying the things that need to be said, bashing left-wing wokeism.
Ben, you guys do the exact same thing.
You barely touch family court.
A lot of the things that you talk, and this is, I want you guys to understand why.
Conservatives have to keep the women working.
If your wife is running up the credit card and spending 80% of the household income and part of that is money for Ben, they have to keep women working.
They can't go after family court.
So what do they do?
They go after low-hanging fruit.
Trans issues, that's low-hanging fruit.
I've played volleyball since I was like 10, and I had one tournament that a trans person was in.
And to be frank, guys, women supported it.
The men there, they didn't support it.
Women sometimes just shoot ourselves in the foot.
So he's doing the exact same thing.
And then to the crazier side of the internet, he'll present as an anti-Semitic radical who's willing to violate any taboo for the fringes.
And then when he's sitting down with someone actually conservative, he'll pretend he's an upstanding person who cares about family values and that he's been out of this, the sort of cam business for in the end.
What he really is is a con artist.
And he's actually kind of an evil con artist, not kind of, if you believe the allegations against him and they're lie.
Ben, you had destiny on.
Destiny.
Destiny is known.
He is known for sleeping with all the women he streams with.
They have sex.
No, no, bring up the important points.
Lots of them.
An actually evil con artist.
Even if you just believe the stuff he said about himself, what he says is evil.
He made his money off of cam girls, which is he is a he is a self-professed pimp.
And he made his money grooming women for the industry.
Now, all the people on the right who are very upset correctly about the grooming gangs in Britain are going to have to explain why they're.
We're going to, this is again, it's going back to the morality, police.
Now, what person, I'm going to Google right now.
What percent of men of men watch corn?
70% of American men, approximately 70% of American men and 40% of women watch online corn.
So odds are he's probably on the other end of it.
Okay.
Other thing I want to bring up is the way that conservatives see women is they see women as these angelic creatures who can do no wrong.
They see when women are sexual, they always blame the sexuality on the men.
It's men grooming them.
It's the other thing that's really low-hanging fruit is they'll say, oh, feminism convinced women to do this.
No.
There's no morality in dating.
So I made a little PowerPoint.
I made this really quick, so you'll have to, you'll have to.
So a lot of times what happens is, I want, this is Hitler.
Now we could agree, not the best guy.
I know that's a dispute nowadays.
Okay.
I know that's a dispute.
But can we, for the sake of it, say not the greatest person ever?
Okay.
Now, this was his wife.
What would you guys rank his wife one to ten?
I know this is the 20s, so you know, you can't really see the body the women actually covered up back then, but you would you guys agree higher than a six?
What about okay, six or what?
She's such a cool person.
She's a cool person.
Yeah, if you agree about her, she committed suicide with Hitler because she loved him so much.
He got a good night kiss every single night.
You know what I mean?
Like, she loved him so much that she committed suicide with him.
Now, I mean, they might have killed her anyway.
Okay, but that's the point.
There's no morality in dating.
The most moral people, there was this idea that like the most moral people get the best outcomes.
Like the best, the most stand-up, the best men are going to have happy marriages.
And the players, they're the ones, they're going to get karma someday.
And I'm telling you, go watch 10 videos of men that were divorce scraped.
Do they seem like bad guys?
You know, women are more likely to stay with abusive men.
And I know, because the cope is always, well, that's just the bad women.
There's these good women out there.
Look, there's worse and better.
There's higher risk and lower risk women, right?
There's, you know, women with married parents, women that were raised by crackheads.
You could argue one's better than the other on a balance of probabilities, but we're still women.
One woman might be going for the for the drug dealer.
One woman might be going for the promoter at the club.
Anyways, now, these are the dorky guys.
Now, I'm a bit of a dork too.
I'm not judging, but I'm just being objective here, okay?
It takes one to know one.
Now, the people that are more dorky have not gone through the trouble of learning charisma.
That's such a great skill.
And the men like Hitler, I don't like to say this, but the guys, maybe I should, I don't want to get YouTube dead.
The men that are the same arc, I'll say the bad boys because I don't want to say his name too much in this stream, just because I don't want YouTube to come get me.
But the bad boys have taken the time.
They either, there's either the natural ones, the guys that have just been smooth talkers from a young age, or the ones who slept with a million women, spoke to a million women, got really jazzed, like did all the thing.
We have like a million standards.
So they've gone through the journey of charm.
Now, these guys, the men that have gone through the journey of charm, they're getting the 22-year-olds throwing themselves at them.
So these guys will come in and say things like compatibility is important, right?
They'll say like, oh, compatibility, like that, we have to be in the same socioeconomic background.
These guys, they know it's not important.
Even though, well, it was to this guy.
Sorry.
Bad example.
But so these guys, when they see women being overly sexual because they've never seen that side of women, a lot of men never see it.
Their wives aren't that way with them.
They think the women are being groomed.
You know, because Ben Shapiro told the story of how he met his wife.
He had to beg his wife to marry him.
This is his words.
He said, my wife, I asked her to marry me.
She told me no, and then later said yes.
Do you think that Hitler had to beg his wife to marry him?
There's no morality in this.
Now, again, when women are younger, they're more naked.
When they get older, they start putting clothes on.
That's just kind of how it works.
So, oh, at least seen the women after their slut phase.
They get them in the born-again Christian phase.
And you know, like, for example, most of them will meet their wives in their late 20s, early 30s, and they're going to come to them like the Virgin Mary, like they weren't in the club like two years ago.
Now, the thing is, the bad guys of the world, they know that women like the raunchy stuff more than men.
It's not the men that want to tie up the women.
If you look at the corn that women watch, women watch more violent corn than men.
If you look at the shows that women watch, it's about serial killers.
It's the handmaid's tale, which is a show about women that get tied up and graped once a month.
That they're literal sex slaves.
And this is what we choose to watch.
62% of women admit to having grape fantasies.
And remember, there's an incentive here.
It's higher.
But again, these guys only get the dorky guys, they don't get that side.
Because when women get closer to 30, we become more in survival mode.
We got to pick something for long term.
Hitler knows.
Sorry.
Okay.
Now, the other thing is that the women of today are sex workers.
We're already doing it.
You know, if I have a private investigator coming on my show telling me that over a quarter of women under 35 are sex workers, if I go look at the number of women on OnlyFans, it matches.
These guys will say, well, you're inflating the numbers.
No way.
These guys will say, I am not surprised.
I'm not surprised at all.
Could have told you that.
That's why I put my wife in a burqa.
The Muslims know.
Oh, they said always keep a pair of handcuffs next to the bed.
Look.
Look, I'm not here to tell you what to do, what not to do.
You guys are men.
Do what you want with your life.
All I'm saying is that you're going to notice there's tells that men don't know.
Naive men become targets because women with experience know that they will never even bother to look into their past.
You know, that's why a lot of church guys, they just get raked through the coals because they haven't dated, they haven't slept with enough women to know the difference.
Okay, we're going to continue.
His grooming gang.
Here was Andrew Tate explicitly explaining his method.
Now he claims it's all a joke, but it's not a joke.
He literally made millions of dollars doing this thing.
So yeah, on Corporate Tate.com, my PhD program, and that is PhD is a Pimp and Hose degree.
Clever.
Clever.
That teaches basically how I got girls, how I met girls, how I got girls to like me, how I got girls to fall in love with me to work on webcam for me.
Now remember, men adapt to the market.
Men look at the market, okay, and they say, they try to be gentlemen.
And they come in and they say, you know what, I am going to be a perfect gentleman.
I'm going to court you and treat you so well.
And then the women say, nah, I'm going to go sleep with that serial killer.
No, I'm going to sleep with that club promoter.
I'm going to sleep with the bartender.
I don't want the men with jobs, stable jobs.
you know if the women responded to men that were good to them they would be with them if I was dating a guy and he told me you know what even after we fell in love he said I want you to be my cam girl Do you know what I would say?
No, hell no.
So as far as I'm concerned, I have no sympathy.
That's called taking an L.
And men take L's all the time.
Nobody feels bad.
How many men?
Tate made some of those women millionaires.
Now, sure, no one will ever marry them.
But could you fellas in the chat live with never marrying for millions of dollars?
Kids are getting married anyway, statistically.
Where is the accountability on the women for their choices?
It was just, oh, he made them fall in love.
They have no agency.
Are they adults?
Are they not adults?
Because that's what I did.
That was my MO was fine girls, make them love me, and make them work for me.
And that's how I got rich.
Okay, now, if you know anything about the grooming gang scandal in Britain, that's exactly what the grooming gang scandal is.
That's exactly what it is.
They took underage girls.
They would convince these young girls.
Now, again, if they were underage, if he gets convicted, not just podcast cliffs, if he gets convicted of the women were underage, okay.
That's a different conversation, but he has not been convicted of that the girls were in love with them and then they would pass them around their group of friends for money.
That's exactly what happened in the grooming gangs trials in the UK, which is a massive scandal internationally, as it should be.
But I guess if you're Andrew Tate, then if you confess to doing things like this on tape, like he just said, then morally it's somehow okay because you're anti-woke or something.
Well, folks, politically, things are changing.
You voted big government out inefficiently.
Guess who's not watching your ad?
Me.
Underage persons.
The allegation, by the way, is that he did exactly the same thing that the grooming gangs did with a 15-year-old girl.
Prosecutors had asked the judge to remand the brothers in custody for 30 days.
That'd be him and his brother Tristan.
Well, they continued a new investigation involving a total of 35 alleged victims, including a woman who was 15 at the time.
In a statement, Romania's agency against organized crime, Diecott, said six people had been detained.
Now, again, if they're underage, different conversation.
However, as of now, he's been convicted of nothing.
It's an allegation.
And what do we know about masculine men that have too much influence?
They throw everything at them.
Everything.
So until they're convicted, which I've been being told for like three and a year now, that they're going to be convicted.
Still no.
In total, both Romanians and foreigners.
He, of course, says that 30 of these girls say we've done nothing wrong, which, again, that's not actually super rare in sort of grooming cases.
That was actually the original perspective of many of the girls who actually were groomed in Great Britain by the grooming gangs.
Two are the mother.
Who gets to decide?
That, you know, that's interesting.
The argument he's making is the same argument that feminists make that housewives are oppressed.
Who gets to decide if they're oppressed?
Mothers of our children, two who have never even been here to Romania.
Asked repeatedly by the BBC about the allegations of the 15-year-old girl and underage persons, he walked away and refused to reply.
Now, these are new and separate allegations from the old allegations.
The anti-organized crime agency in Romania says the accused were grooming vulnerable people who are then housed in different locations and forced to produce material for online broadcast.
One of the foreign men is accused of forcing a 17-year-old foreign citizen to perform acts in order to make online video content.
He's said to have kept all the $1.5 million in profit.
The statement does not name him.
That same man is accused of repeatedly having relations with a girl who was 15 years old when they met.
And actually, there's a fair bit of tape of the girl talking about when she met Andrew Tate allegedly.
And if that tape is in any way correct, and if his own statements on tape are in any way correct, she was underage at the time.
Some of the other allegations from the new allegations that are being brought include, according to the actual case that's being brought, quote, he was hitting the victim on the head with one of his hands, right on the temple, not on the face, and with the other at the same time, he was choking the victim.
Now, again, I got to go back to the PowerPoint.
So, again, the dorky guys, they're like, wait, hold on.
The dorky guys are like, he was choking her.
I'm going to get red talking about this.
The dorky guys are like, oh, he was choking her and hitting her.
She must have been being abused.
And the bad, you know, the Hitlers, the bad boys are like, oh no.
Oh, no, Ben.
She was begging for me to do this.
Have you seen 50 Shades of Gray?
You know.
Okay, I'm going to continue.
That's what, okay, there was a clip that went viral of Tate, and it was him doing like hitting, choking this girl.
Like, some women really like being beat up.
I don't know what it is, but that's look.
And it was funny because it went really viral.
Everyone was freaking out.
And then, like, three days later, the woman came out and she's like, look, guys, we were just playing around and having fun.
But the dorks are like, no, she was being, she was being oppressed.
And the players are like, look, they want to do that stuff more than we want to do it to them.
You don't understand.
Thus, an eye injury was not caused by blows to the head inflicted by the defendant, Andrew Tate, but was the result of immense pressure felt by the victim as a result of the strangulation.
According to the victim, during the allegedly violent intercourse, she felt she was on the verge of death.
This person provided the judicial authorities with photographs and messages relating to these injuries.
Okay, the now again, the players know that sometimes it can get a little rough, right?
The dorky guys don't know this.
Their girlfriends never, their wives never show them that side.
Now, again, the players, a lot of them knew the wives before they were wives.
So, because a lot of the dorky guys will say, well, my wife's not like that.
And the players will, you know, they knew their wives before the ring.
You know what I mean?
These are pretty significant accusations.
Now, again, sometimes in retrospect, the woman feels guilty.
She doesn't get what she wants.
Then all of a sudden, it was abuse.
Now, maybe it's all lies.
Maybe all of it is lies.
But the problem is.
I'm sure he choked her.
I bet that was not a lie.
I bet it wasn't.
He said a lot of things like this on tape.
So we'll have to see how that goes.
And again, it's not just trials in Romania that are happening.
There is also legal considerations in the UK.
In March, both of the Tates were taken into custody in Romania on a new European arrest warrant issued by the British authorities.
Those charges related to the arrest were made between 2012 and 2015 and include allegations of aggression.
The Bedford Child Police in England said at the time they were working with the authorities in Romania on an investigation into allegations and human as well.
So himself on these matters is pretty terrible.
Okay.
I'm not for cornography.
I don't think it's a good thing.
However, I would love for the dorks, the Daily Wire guys, to have the same energy for the sex workers.
The sex workers take advantage of lonely men, but they're given a get-out-of-jail free card.
But if men monetize women's sexuality, they're the bad guys, even though women monetize their sexuality themselves.
He was a business guy.
He saw easy money of something women are doing anyways.
He is currently going on trial in Romania for both and all while supposedly running for prime minister of Great Britain in order to stop radical Muslim grooming gangs.
He is a Muslim.
He's a self-stated Muslim, and according to— Yeah, I didn't buy the Muslim thing.
I'm sorry, Andrew, if you see this.
I don't, I doubt it, but you guys got to stop converting every time you get clout.
Every other influencer does this.
Could you guys convert privately?
I mean, it's the same thing with Nala.
It's just old.
I'm not.
I'm glad it's Muslims and not the Catholics.
We don't need another.
But yeah, you know, I actually agree with the overnight conversions.
I do agree with that.
His own statements.
He was involved in grooming girls for this again.
According, if his own statements about himself are, I'm not saying it.
He's saying it.
Here's the women that are going to sign up are the women that would do it anyway.
To do all my same reason a woman needs a man to do anything because they're incompetent and they're very, very lazy.
True.
True.
And extruder.
When you're pimping like me, it's a full-time job.
And Nathan Livingstone, who's kept tabs on this, has put together a lot of these videos that we're using.
And these are all going to be dorky guys.
All the dorky guys, they have a tendency to signal morality.
They don't, you know, because again, that's how they get laid.
So they have to virtue signal morality.
And again, I would believe it if they crucified the women the same way they crucify the men, but they don't.
They use kid gloves on the women, crucify the men, and virtue signal.
That's all it is.
Here.
Now, Tate has then claimed in interviews with conservatives that he stopped his webcam business long ago.
Like Super.
He stopped his webcam business technically in about 2022.
Where were these receipts with Nala?
Where were.
I'm so mad right now.
Sorry.
Oh my gosh.
You guys, you have got to be effing kidding me.
You have got them.
But you refused to use my receipts for Nala's interview.
You then said that Pearl needs to be prayed for and that I'm not a real Catholic.
Totally fine.
You know what?
If the bar is Mother Teresa or someone better than me, that's totally fine.
I accept that.
But what I don't accept is you saying I'm not a real Catholic while saying the porn star is.
That I don't accept.
I sorry, okay, I'm done.
I'm done.
So let me get this straight.
They have all the receipts, all of them for Tate.
They have exactly when he stopped his cam business, but nobody could get the receipts that I got for that when Nala decided magically to delete her OnlyFans the day before the Michael Knowles interview.
You have got to be kidding me.
You've got to be kidding me.
Oh my gosh, I'm so mad.
Okay.
Oh, wait, I was doing the wrong one.
Yeah, it's not that long ago, as you may know.
And apparently, he stopped his webcam business when he found a new grift, the thing he calls Tate University or Hustlers University.
Like the Christian grift?
I'm so annoyed.
I am so annoyed right now.
Which is effectively a multi-level marketing scheme that is designed to spread social media awareness of Andrew Tate.
That's basically.
No, look, I'm just being honest here.
We hired like two clippers from Hustlers University, and they're pretty good.
You know, I'm not going to speak and say if Hustlers University was good or bad, but I could see it being for people in like third world countries.
I mean, if they learn to clip, it can change their life, to be honest.
And it did for a couple of them.
So, yeah.
Am I doing a call-in segment on this show?
I am, but it's going to be about TikTok.
I just couldn't.
I saw this and I just had to do it.
I had to bring it in.
I had to.
Basically, what it is.
So, Coffee Zilla, who does investigations into sort of these MLMs and be a dork.
It's going to be, it's the high-pitched voice.
It's always insane.
He did an entire investigation into Tate and what Tate does with his operation.
Here's him explaining.
Most people know that Tate.
See, Dork.
It's the same.
It's like the same archetype.
It's from clips talking about the Matrix, politics, and feminism.
But the two brothers have made almost all their money from something else.
According to Tate, the way they got rich was webcams, taking advantage of lonely men.
They bragged about it.
And me, my- I would agree with that.
I don't think it's a moral thing to do.
However, if the ladies are going to do it anyway, our brother, eventually some staff I trained, would do all the talking.
The girls were just pure just famousers.
We were taking their money, all of it.
And then they broke into male empowerment, which is ironic.
Teaching dating, manliness, and of course, money.
You could join Hustlers University for $49 a month, where the best hustle was students reselling the course to their friends, which actually got the Tates quite popular because they encouraged the students to post their videos everywhere.
And he continues explaining exactly what Hustler University is.
Again, he's making a lot of money off Hustler University, not as much as he says he's making.
Andrew Tate at one point said that he was going to be the world's first trillionaire and suggested that he was making something like $110 million per year.
But when you actually dig into how much money he is worth, he had suggested, for example, that he owned a chain of 15 casinos.
The UK Guardian found that apparently not.
It's tough to find out how much Tate's Romanian companies are actually worth.
We can find tax returns for only one.
Talisman Enterprises listed as a web portal business, which had 1.2 million pounds in debt.
And so even many of the places he's declared are like his amazing castle in Italy, these are places that you can rent for like 800 pounds a night.
In any case, here was.
That's awesome.
You can rent a castle for 800 pounds.
I want to.
That's amazing.
Coffee's explaining the Hustlers University grift of it.
The main project Tate keeps promising, which is Real World Token.
All of those others.
Yeah, I'm not going to get behind this token.
Look, I don't know any.
I don't know anything about the tokens, Bitcoin.
I'm staying out of that one.
If you want to believe Tate, we're just promotions.
Tate claims that this is the coin he's actually behind.
And it's blah, blah, blah.
Okay.
My only point.
I don't really care about that stuff.
My only point is: again, dorky guys will always assume that women were groomed, tricked into being a whore.
Long story short, the players know deep down for the right guy, women will say and do crazy things.
If that's not you, I don't know what to tell you.
I can't.
But the dorky guys are always going to take accountability off of the women.
And they never put accountability on the women for the type of guys they pick.
Okay.
Why do dorky guys believe that women are angels?
I don't know.
Don't know.
I'm going to read the chat on YouTube really quick.
If you guys have something you want me to say, sorry, not on YouTube, on theaudacitynetwork.com, 80 bucks a year, 10 bucks a month, unlimited chats that I read every couple of bits.
So, Pearl, Ben was actually bang on.
Tate's a serious scum.
He used women to drain lonely dudes' bank accounts and laughed about it.
Look, I don't agree with that, right?
I don't think that's the right thing to do.
But I got to see it from his point of view.
And I see it from so many men are just dying to throw their money at women.
Dying.
It's like asking men, please stop simping.
Please stop.
And they're like, no, please, I want to simp.
If they're going, my point isn't that's the right thing to do or the wrong thing to do.
That's not my point.
Morality, I'm taking out of this.
My point is the dorky men are always harder on the men than the women.
They bring Nala on, they use kid gloves.
They say that she was tricked into doing porn.
She didn't really want to do it.
But if the men decide to make money off of women's sexuality that they're giving away for free anyway, they're the bad guys.
Pearl, yeah, I'm going to take moral advice who cheerleads the slaughter of men, women, and children of Gaza.
Has Tate done anything or supported anything even close to that horror look?
I'm not a war expert.
I try to stay in my lane.
So I don't know.
My Pearl, what's your when, in your opinion, did gynocentrism begin in earnest?
What was the catalyst?
You know, you guys can go to gynocentrism.com to learn about the history of it.
I learned about it, I was reading up a while ago.
It's just been a bit since I've kind of refreshed on that material.
Pearl, your arguments are sound, but it's realism versus idealism.
Okay, they're arguing about Gaza in the chat.
Look, I'm not.
Are you sure you don't want to come step?
I'm good.
Look.
I know people who have strong opinions.
I cannot change this war.
I cannot.
They are going to do what they're going to do.
There are more balls in a convent than in modern American conservatism.
Most shrink rom shrink rom actual conflict.
You are one of the bravest people I've ever seen.
That's why you're tops.
God bless you.
Johnny, you got to stop simping.
I am not one of the bravest people you've ever seen.
I'm behind a screen.
Respectfully, please stay on the website.
I don't mean any disrespect, but I just want to be honest here.
Go to any military member, police officer, or fireman.
They're all braver than me.
I promise you.
I am a protected class.
So I don't, you know, because a lot of the ladies, we like to virtue signal like we're brave, but you know, we're just a protected class.
We get away with more.
It's like black people talking about BLM.
are they brave or do they just get to get away with more than a white person saying that um has anyone claimed um that tate had underage girls not 17 year old Well, I just looked up the age of consent.
It's 16 in Romania.
You could disagree.
Maybe it should be different, but that is the law.
So, okay.
For the love of God, would you just transcribe Ben Shapiro's voice?
I can't bear it.
I'm sorry.
I can't.
Go on and just say you're not anti-Semitic.
Wait, wait, wait.
I condemn, I condemn Hamas.
I condemn YouTube.
Let me break in.
Damn it.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
Thank you for being here tonight.
Probread.
Let's take down.
Are we dating the same guy?
You know what?
I have a story from that I do want to cover.
Not today, though, probably tomorrow.
I think I got all the chats.
If you guys want your chats read, go to theaudacitynetwork.com and go to the live stream.
We got a lot of people in the chat.
Let me pull.
Next, we're going to talk about this TikTok ban.
So guys, for years, I did not think this day would come.
I still, I'm a bit skeptical because I was one of the OGs on TikTok.
I was in the early days.
Not when it was Byte Dance or whatever it's called, but, you know, I had a pretty big following on TikTok.
And I remember in 2020 when they also were saying they were going to ban TikTok.
Now, we may have that day today.
I, for one, am devastated, but this also could be hilarious.
So the fate of TikTok and its 170 million users hangs in the balance as the Supreme Court decides whether a law banning the app is constitutional or not.
The law requires that China, base owner of TikTok, Byte Dance, to sell its U.S. operations by January 19th.
Lower courts have already upheld the law with the Supreme Court being the say on the issue.
To say that modern women are losing their minds is an understatement.
One of the hallmarks of modern women is being addicted to social media with TikTok being the main app that we waste our time on.
These are influencers trying to say that TikTok being banned is an attack on, you guessed it, women's rights.
Influencers are out of touch for crying about the TikTok ban.
You're out of touch for not realizing this is a real industry.
You're out of touch for not realizing that social media is what on the TikTok.
Influencers aren't out of touch for crying about the TikTok ban.
You're out of touch for not realizing this is a real industry.
You're out of touch for not realizing that social media is one of the only female-dominated spaces where women run this shit.
Y'all cry about women's rights and women supporting women.
Yeah, women on this app are the first ones crawling to Reddit to complain about their favorite influencers, ripping them apart in their comments, saying they're so excited that they're going to have to get real jobs now.
Want to support women, and yet you're the first ones to discredit all of the work women do.
And let's take a step back for a minute.
You also don't realize how many people that are invisible behind the scenes that you don't even realize work at TikTok, work on campaigns, work with agencies, work in apps.
You built up only to bring back down the ones bringing in those million-dollar paychecks.
You're losing everything because you don't really want to see them succeed.
Now, the comments section, Aubrey, I built my business on this app.
Women really think being TikTokers is like a real business.
It's super crazy.
But why aren't more people posting on other social media platforms as well?
It never made sense to me that influencers only post on TikTok.
I can answer that.
It's incredibly easy to get a TikTok following.
And I could say this from literal experience.
So when I first got on TikTok, I mean, I would make TikToks replying to comments and they would get views.
It was like the easiest thing ever.
And when I switched over to YouTube, I had to, no, I'm not going to say it's still an influence.
It's still media, right?
So we're still, I deleted the higher, I erased the hierarchy of jobs, but if it was still up, it would still be bottom of the totem pole, right?
But it's just more difficult to convert.
So you'll see all these big influencers on TikTok, but you know, that's like the easy app.
And I've seen them come and go.
I've met a lot of the big influencers in LA.
Like I met the D'Amilios years ago, one of the biggest families on TikTok.
And while they're all, they made so much money that they're all stupid rich, but they've crazy fallen off since then.
I get it, but there are a lot of influencers who go and spend a ton of money when in the real world, people with unstable jobs, realistically, what TikTok is, aren't doing that.
They're saving.
People underestimate influencers and social media so much.
It's ridiculous how out of touch they are.
The industry has changed.
This is a legitimate line of work, yet they pretend it's a fad.
Now, can it be a legitimate line of work?
Completely.
And I've met people that have made careers out of media, but it is unstable.
You are not going to be employed like an engineer is going to be employed for life.
And You just kind of got to roll with the punches.
Hair running racks are nothing new, but when I saw this on TikTok shop, I had to grab it up.
I'm still learning on braiding my daughter's hair.
Listen, I'm not going to get on here and tell you some crazy story about a stripper or how my man was eating it from the back, but what I will tell you: if I won 100% notice a difference by day four.
100%.
These are the ingredients.
Nothing crazy.
And you can probably find all this on the own on your own.
This year I did my big one.
Next year, I'm going bigger.
You think you hate me now?
I'm about to hurt your feelings.
One thing that this election and a bunch of other things have kind of like taught me in general.
I mean, you tell me.
Again, on my basics journey, another package.
Happy New Year.
I'm back with some more plus-size reviews.
And y'all know I try to be as six figures in five months.
I mean, how was that content?
Was it good?
Was it okay?
So why is TikTok being banned?
The Department of Justice says that TikTok being owned by a China-based company means that data and opinions of U.S. citizens are covertly manipulated by Beijing.
Department of Justice lawyers argue that the law is justified on national security grounds.
TikTok says that it has been unfairly singled out, making the argument that its data collection practices and algorithms are similar to those of others used of the other leading U.S. social media apps.
TikTok legal teams say that banning TikTok would be an unprecedented attack on free speech in the United States.
While Biden's administration supported and signed the law that included the ban, Trump filed a brief with the Supreme Court to delay any ruling until he enters office.
He stated that he is confident he can use his business savvy to negotiate deals for TikTok's American operations to be purchased by an American company or a group of investors.
While Trump supported banning TikTok in his first term, he has since changed his position, saying that he wants to be its savior this time around.
TikTok was perceived as one of the major ways that his campaign appealed to a younger audience in this past election year.
Trump's support of TikTok is an uncommon one in Washington, as the laws banning the app receive bipartisan support.
The USA government intelligence community overwhelmingly deemed TikTok as a cyber threat to the United States.
If you already have TikTok on your phone, it's not going to disappear from your phone on January 19th or 20th.
It will, however, very likely disappear from the app stores.
This means that users will no longer be able to download the app or updated versions of it.
And without the ability to update, the platform won't be able to fix bugs, add features, or address security concerns.
Eventually, it may become incompatible with the operating system of certain phones.
Over time, this so what is the public saying about the TikTok ban?
When polled, 51% of Americans say the U.S. government should try to force the sale of the app, while 46% say no.
There is definitely a generational divide on the subject, as only 39% of adults under 30 support the ban.
Young women oppose the ban with two-thirds of women under 30 opposing the ban.
So the topic of today's call-in show, do you support the ban and why?
And then lastly.
Oh my gosh, my phone thing's glitching.
We're gonna watch a couple more TikToks, but we're gonna put the Zoom link in the chat and then bring people up.
So I want to know, do you support the TikTok ban and why?
Please keep it to under like a minute and a half.
Please.
Okay, let's watch.
I don't think the TikTok ban is actually gonna happen.
Have I done any research?
No.
I just feel like it's not gonna happen.
Like, I don't know why you would like even test Gen Z like that.
Like the significance of social media, specifically TikTok to me is insane.
Like as silly as it sounds, it's a big part of my life.
And not even just because I'm a content creator, but also because like I'm on it all the time.
I use it as a search engine.
Like I use it to help me with my homework.
I learned things.
Like the only reason I know anything about the news or the California fires or anything is from TikTok.
I'm not checking the news.
I'm not reading the newspaper.
And the amount of people that like actually get income from TikTok, including me, how am I supposed to pay for my college?
Like social media and specifically TikTok like funds my entire life or those family channels that like genuinely use TikTok as like a source of income.
They're gonna pay for their bills.
I just think that we're all joking about it, but if it actually happened, like we'd go insane.
Okay, let's go to the next one.
Good morning, everyone.
Get ready with me while we talk about what's gonna happen if TikTok does get banned.
So short version is if TikTok does get banned, then you will find me on Instagram, YouTube, and Snapchat.
My username for my Instagram is Beanie and Katerina, like it is here.
And that's the same for my YouTube, but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna change it by the end of the month to Katerina Fink, just so it's even and the same on everything.
And on Snapchat, it's Katerina Fink.
In all transparency, if TikTok does get banned, I feel like it will be very sad.
Obviously, like all of you, I've built such a strong community here with you guys.
And this is the first platform that I actually grew on about a year ago, which is just crazy.
But I do believe that if one thing goes, another good thing will come.
So I know that we'll find each other in another platform to communicate in another way.
I'm not going anywhere.
I'm still going to be posting online somewhere.
So it's not too much of a concern to me because financially, this is my full-time job, social media, and TikTok is just one of the platforms that I focus my time on and one of my main platforms.
But I do think that it'll allow me to focus more time on things that I want to grow this year, which is YouTube and my Snapchat.
My goal this year is to make videos every single week vlogging just like a day in the life videos of what happens with mom and I and just what I'm doing in my life with everything going on.
I'm a very positive person, so I do think that something good will come out of TikTok being banned, you would say, but I will miss you guys and know that you will find me anywhere else.
The same username.
It's also my bio if you want to go check that out.
But regardless, this app has really changed my life.
Like this was the one app that I started to create a following on in a community.
Some of you have been here since the beginning when I was posting videos of me and Beamie when I first got her.
So I just really appreciate you guys sticking around and helping me grow with who I am and sharing just like what's going on in my life because this is a great outlet for me to be able to express that and kind of get feedback from you guys, which has been so supportive and so gracious.
And not to mention have a job that I absolutely love.
So with all that being said, I love you guys and I really do hope that TikTok doesn't get banned.
But if it does, you know where to find me.
I love you and have a great day.
Yeah.
And then we have the audacity to say we're oppressed.
We get to make money off of just existing.
Existing.
Feels so alone so much of the time.
TikTok has been so great at just automatically pushing my sad Mopey content that I feel like I need to release function as a human being because I have no one else to talk to to the right people who are going through the right things.
Some of people.
Yeah, you see, they treated it as a diary.
So, you know, this disappearing is kind of like losing a friend, unfortunately.
They're like, oh, just post on Instagram.
Like, just post on Facebook, whatever.
The only people they're seeing that aren't going to be the people going through those same things or who understand it or who the algorithm magically knows I need to talk to.
It's going to be solely people who are judging.
Not that there's not that here, that's that everywhere, because that is just people, period.
But I feel like that's going to be like a very.
Another one.
Crying.
Someone said Elon Musk is in talks to buy it.
Let me see.
That would be awesome.
To buy.
Is that true?
Oh my gosh, that would be amazing.
Okay, I wanted to go through my opinion now.
What do I think about TikTok?
Now, I think there's pros and cons of banning TikTok.
Now, the pros of TikTok in general as an app.
It is really easy to post videos, meaning your A-list celebrities can get the app and you can see a whole different side of them.
You get to see, you know, Jennifer Aniston or Selena Gomez just recorded a random video in their house.
As a con.
It also allows a lot of people with zero talent to just exist.
Pro.
304s cannot keep their mouths shut.
So I have plenty of content.
It's amazing.
I have a lot to talk about on my show.
Con of TikTok.
304s can't keep their mouth shut.
So it is a very big OnlyFans funnel.
Pro.
You can find out catfishes easier.
Have you ever wondered if that girl you follow on Instagram is as hot as you think she is?
Go to her TikTok because they don't put near as much makeup on to take a TikTok video.
So my personal opinion on the matter is it's probably better for society if it doesn't exist, but I think the genie's out of the bottle.
There's no going back, you know, the same way it's probably better for birth control, you know, if birth control didn't exist.
But the genie's out of the bottle.
I mean, how have conservatives stopped abortion by protesting it for 70 years?
I got better things to do.
And I also need to get these clips.
So society's burning anyway, literally.
Look at California.
I think that people are naive that think that it's not going to keep going the way it's going.
If OnlyFans exist, then I think TikTok should exist.
I think it's actually quite effed up that we're talking about banning TikTok before OnlyFans.
TikTok is a very and TikTok is a very liberal app.
And I know this because when I was on TikTok, I did vlog content.
I did, I mean, stupid stuff.
I was like young, right?
And I got banned when I started doing real content.
So I started doing street interviews, giving my opinions on political topics.
But what actually got me banned was I was in England and I was doing a street interview and this interview was at night.
And I, there was a woman that said that her life was so hard because as a woman, she can't walk home alone at night.
I'm thinking we're both walking alone at night.
And this woman is ready to fight me.
I said, you know, men can't walk home alone at night either.
They're more likely to be victims of a violent crime.
He said, I'll have you, you slag.
I'll have you, you slag.
I didn't know what a slag was.
I was new to England, but I knew I was being insulted.
Turns out that was a whore.
I did not know what it meant.
And so I said, well, you're a whale.
She's objectively fat.
I mean, this is objective.
Which I am thinking about bringing back whale merch.
So, you know, if you guys have an opinion on that, put it in the chat.
But, yeah, they banned me on TikTok because I called her a whale, even though she called me a slag first.
That's how gynocentric.
I couldn't even say an objective fact.
And really, it wasn't even an insult because whales are beautiful, majestic creatures.
So, you know, I want to get like a bewail, beware of whale shirt.
Maybe I could put that lady's thing on it.
Could I get sued for that?
It's a question I have.
Anyways, who cares about my opinion?
This show is about you guys' opinions.
So please call in to discuss your opinion on it.
Is it the same?
Oh, it's a new one.
Okay.
I want to hear what you guys have to say.
Do you think that TikTok will be banned?
Do you think it should be banned?
Let me join this.
I was attacked.
I was.
And you know what the worst part was?
Okay.
I am my friend.
I brought this guy named Jesse.
Okay.
Jesse, if you're watching this, he actually knows.
I told him we had beef after this.
He had one job.
Okay.
So the way it would work was I was booming as a content creator.
I was going, I was hot.
And if I, I would gift a collab if I didn't want to pay a cameraman.
So I would bring, so, you know, this guy named Jesse and his friend, his friend held the camera, you know, and Jesse's doing street interviews with me.
It's like a collab for his channel.
I'm like, look, if you just make sure nobody hits me, that he had one job.
And I could not believe he let this woman attack me.
And he would say, well, I would have stopped her if it went too far.
I'm like, how was this not too far?
Anyways, I guess, you know, I'm just saying one job.
Maybe I'm entitled.
But, you know, that was the agreement up front.
That was, I put that out there.
This is what I'm getting out of this collab.
How do I turn it off?
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Well, I tried to join.
It's not letting me in yet.
Here we go.
I'm going to mute it once I get in.
All right.
And then it's going to make me the perfect.
We're going to, I need, okay, we're going to have some rules.
My first rule for calling in, the link is in the YouTube chat and it's in the Audacity chat too, right?
If it's not, can we put it in?
Yeah.
Okay.
The rules are: I need your camera on.
You can request to be off camera, but you need to say that right away.
We can take the take it off.
The reason is, the other thing is, please get to the point.
I want to know if you think TikTok should be banned and if you think it will be and why you think that.
I personally think it won't because I've seen this film too many times before.
But hey.
And don't be rude, you know, just be respectful.
Anyways, we're back.
Hello, Phil.
If you think TikTok should be banned, I need you to mute the stream.
Hi, Phil.
How are you?
Good.
Can you hear me?
I can hear you.
I'm, let me just turn my volume a little high.
Hold on a second.
I just wanted to put these glasses on for dramatic effect.
Okay.
Because I need to tell you you're wrong, Pearl.
Okay.
Well, you know.
That's all right.
Why am I wrong?
Just kidding.
I don't really get what the big deal is.
Is it because it's an email with video?
I don't really get the argument at all.
What's the difference between Facebook and all these other ones?
Is it that you can get away with more stuff on TikTok?
Well, it's that China owns it.
Well, yeah, that's what they're saying, but you don't hear anybody making comments like that.
Oh, that they hate China.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Do you think it will be banned or no?
I think it's a big money deal.
You know what I mean?
They try to squeeze these giant companies to get some kind of advantage.
I'm sorry, I'm just not.
I've never used TikTok.
I mean, except I've heard people refer to it a lot, but you're probably saying.
Yeah, well, that's part of it, right?
Minimize your demons, you know.
So I didn't want to take up too much of your call, but you said something earlier, but I kind of spaced out it.
Did you have any other questions?
Yeah, I just want to know if you think it should be banned and if you think it will be.
Well, I mean, if you ban them, then what's next?
You know, what are you going to ban next?
Ice cream or?
Yeah.
I mean, I've always tried to get rid of cigarettes.
They're still working on that.
So I just, anytime they get in these big ban issues, what's your argument?
I mean, why?
Why do you want to ban it?
Yeah.
So I don't think they're doing anything illegal.
I mean, if I'm telling you right now, if the government wants to ban them because they're worried about China, I think that's absurd because they know they even leak things on purpose for these people to like that whole thing with Hillary and her files and everything, and she had that private server.
I wouldn't be surprised if they did that on purpose and they wanted people to break into it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like a honey trap thing.
Like they just leak data.
It's just this big espionage.
And then you get even above that.
I bet you they all know what's going on between each other.
Yeah.
Like it's, it just seems like it's something to keep people keep people stirred up.
Something that they like, that they want, oh, we're going to take this away from you.
And then it just makes everybody mad.
Yeah.
Like I said, I'm not a big user, so I'm probably not a very good opinion.
So, well, thank you for calling in, Phil.
Thanks, Pearl.
A pleasure, as always.
Well, we'll see again.
Okay, next.
Who we got next?
We got Carlos.
All right.
Remember, guys, camera on.
Please make sure your stream.
My stream is muted in the background.
Hello, Carlos.
Can you hear me all right?
I can hear you all right.
How are you?
Pretty good.
Thank you for accepting the invite.
Where are you calling from?
Indiana.
Oh, nice.
All right.
So, what's your opinion on the topic?
Do you think it will be banned?
And do you think it should be banned?
I don't think it will be banned, but I think it should be banned.
Okay, why?
I view TikTok in the same category as pornography.
Very addictive.
People can't, I mean, that's that's social life.
People don't go out and talk to the people anymore.
You brought up the 304s on TikTok.
TikTok thoughts.
That's what they are.
Do you think that banning TikTok would change people being anti-social, though?
I think they would find another way to be social online, whether something else comes up.
But I do think, like the guy previously used to say, it's a money grab.
A lot of these people on here making, they're making money off of it.
So there could be like a mini civil war if TikTok was taken away.
But I think it's good for younger people to learn how to, you know, work with your hands.
Your children and have abortions pretty much up to birth in some states.
You're telling me that they're not going to complain about TikTok.
Like, I just, I don't think they'll take it away.
Yeah, they're not going to take it away.
When it comes to abortion, I mean, that makes no sense to me.
If you, if people, I mean, I hate abortion.
I have four kids.
I don't like it.
But when it comes to abortion, if you don't want to have kids, just get the work done that you need to get done and move on.
Yeah.
There's operations you can have, just like a man can have an operation.
You can have an operation too and move forward.
Yeah.
Well, thank you for calling in, Carlos.
Yeah, thank you.
Okay, we got next.
got John.
Hello, John.
How are you?
I'm good.
Where are you calling from?
Southeast Rural, Nevada.
Oh, nice.
Okay, so I don't know if you remember this.
It was about 10 months ago.
It was late March.
Okay.
And you had a subject about men and their relationship with their moms.
Yes.
And that was me.
That was the last one.
In fact, your producer in England says, I want real men life.
And you, this was a little bit longer.
Oh, nice.
Shorten it up a little bit.
I'm curious before we get in the TikTok thing, are you done doing interviews with your documentary?
No.
Because I would like to share my story about what happened with me.
I was divorced in 2005 and it was 12 years of hell.
But I didn't know any better.
Yeah.
Maybe email it to me, but we got to stay on topic for the show.
Okay.
So, okay.
So because of TikTok, their parent company is based in China.
I consider that a foreign entity, and it doesn't need to be in this in the, it doesn't need to be in the United States.
That's that's my personal opinion.
I don't believe it should be.
In fact, Chris Ray, when FBI director, when he was when he was testifying, he was saying all kinds of stuff.
It's not just TikTok.
There's tons of other things the Chinese are doing spying on our stuff and infiltrating, launching malware or having malware set up, shut down our water, shut down our power.
So the last thing we need is any more Chinese stuff going coming into our country and messing it up.
So what if they sell it?
Would that change your opinion?
Well, if there's complete separation of software and the software in the company needs to be totally redone so there's no connection, any connection with the Chinese government or the Chinese Communist Party.
Yeah, I'd reconsider that, but there needs to be major, like Elon needs to, if he buys it, he needs to do what he did with Twitter, what he's going to do with this if he decides to take it over.
He's got to really go through all the software to make sure there's no connection between the Chinese Communist Party.
And what's your prediction?
I think they're going to keep it.
Okay.
And do you think Elon will buy it?
I hope some deep pocket here in the United States buys it.
Okay.
That would change my opinion of it drastically.
But he needs to do what he did with TikTok, with not with Twitter and go through it with his engineers and make sure it's me up and up.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, thank you so much for calling in.
Thank you.
Okay, next up, we have got Bon Goon.
Okay, let's see.
Oh, hello.
Good to see you again.
All right.
Hey, you doing.
What do you think of the topic?
It's interesting.
Do you think that TikTok should be banned?
Yeah, for a simple reason.
Their terms and conditions.
Have you ever read them?
Haven't.
There's a two-minute Joe Rogan clip that I've posted in the comments.
I think you should do yourself and your audience a favor and watch that two-minute clip after.
Okay.
Yeah, seriously, it's aren't allowed to take while you click in that box.
It's just unreal.
Like, I mean, like, Joe Rogan, like, yeah, it's quite funny.
It's a two-minute video.
You should, you should definitely check it out.
Um, the other thing is, um, yeah, Andrew Tape, man.
I mean, like, I get that you're not, like, pushing what he's doing and that, but I mean, yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I can't watch him even.
Like, it's just, I've seen the clips where he's laughing about what he did to the girls and what he did to the guys that he used the girls to rip off.
You know, like, I can't tolerate it.
Anyway, you, on the other hand, got watched for hours.
He makes sense.
Take care, man.
Okay, thanks for calling.
Okay.
Let me should I do is the clip in the comments?
Do you see it?
I don't, but I can click it.
Yeah, I'll talk to the next person and then we can play the clip.
Um, so we got cam, um, hi cam.
Um, it's gonna take a second to connect you, Thadio.
Can't hear you.
I think you're muted.
Oh, now I can hear you.
How's it going, Cam?
Hey, it's good.
Thanks for having me.
Uh, big fan.
I like a lot what you stand for.
Thank you.
Where are you calling from?
Um, I'm uh from Michigan for the human consciousness.
I mean, like, it's it kind of degrades the human mind.
And I really do think that it should be banned.
Um, a lot of good does come out of it for sure, but people just waste so much time, like six hours a day, eight hours a day, just scrolling and scrolling and not getting anything done with their life, you know, not learning anything.
And do you think that would change?
Do you think that would change, though, if they banned the app?
I wouldn't another app just take its place.
Oh, yeah, of course.
I was looking at another streamer, and he said that there's another app like made by the Chinese as well.
It's called Red Note that's coming out.
Yeah.
That's basically a lot of people are going to go to.
But at the same time, I mean, something needs to be done about social media because it is a lot of brainwashing and a lot of brain rot.
I hate that term, but it's very true.
I mean, people just constantly on it and it just does no good.
I mean, I do like the news part of it.
You can like see what's happening in the world and stuff like that.
There are definitely good content creators.
I'm sorry, you got banned.
That was really unfortunate.
It was worth it.
It was a pretty funny clip.
Yeah.
But there are good content creators out there for sure.
But the Chinese are really taking the data from everybody.
I mean, everybody's data is leaked.
You really can't do anything about it anymore.
I mean, it's already too late.
You know?
You too.
Thank you.
Okay, we're going to watch.
There's no one else in the waiting room, so I'm going to end that.
We're going to watch the clip to end the show.
You emailed it?
Okay.
I'll just play down here.
Okay, so we got what happened?
No.
Oh my God.
I read TikTok's terms of service.
I went down a TikTok rabbit hole yesterday.
Yeah, it's good.
I stayed home, smoked a little weed, and I started reading up on TikTok.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
I'm going to read you this because this is so crazy.
Is it good or bad?
Bad.
So what are you saying?
It's a bad place to be.
Listen to this.
This is from TikTok's privacy policy.
All right.
It said, we collect certain information about the device you use to access the platform, such as your IP address, user region.
This is really crazy.
User agent, mobile carrier, time zone settings, identifiers for advertising purpose, model of your device, the device system, network type, device IDs, your screen resolution and operating system, app and file names and types.
So all your apps and all your file names, all the things you have filed away on your phone, they have access to that.
File names and types.
Keystroke patterns or rhythms.
So they're monitoring your keystrokes, which means they know every fucking thing you type.
Wow.
Battery state, audio settings and connected audio devices, where you log in from.
why don't I care?
I just feel, I think it's like a millennial Gen Z thing where we just know our data has been taken from such a young age.
Like, I think I got my first social media app when I was 12.
Multiple devices.
You will be able to use your profile information to identify your activity across devices.
We may also associate you with information collected from devices other than those you use to log into the platform.
Meaning, they can use other computers that you're not even using to log into TikTok.
They can suck the data off that.
That's what you're agreeing to when you download and start using TikTok.
That's wild.
It's insane.
My question would be, do you buy your data anyway?
I thought they had like an avatar for you.
I think they did that.
They created TikTok just on purpose to have.
I just want to like, what are they going to do with it?
Market to me?
Okay.
I don't know.
They've had it for a decade.
I've been fine.
I mean, actually, a Venmo scam did get me once.
That did get me once.
I got a couple people in my family.
Wow.
I think they saw that people are addicted to social media and they came up with the most addictive version of social media, which is TikTok.
It's the most addictive by far.
It's the best for sucking people in.
My kids are fucking hooked line synchred on that shit.
And I know a lot of other people are hooked line and sincerity to grown people.
It's good.
It's good.
And it starts playing things immediately.
The moment you turn it on, it's like playing you a new thing.
And you just sucked into it.
And all the while, it's monitoring your keystrokes, your audio settings.
By audio settings, that means it has access to your microphone.
That means it's listening to you, right?
Just tell me how it ends, man.
It ends with China having all of your data.
And if they develop, then what?
Well, you're fucked.
I don't get how am I effed?
So basically, they're much more aggressive on all the data that they take versus some of the other social media apps.
And with a lot of the more aggressive stuff that they create, they can do a lot more damage financially.
They can use your identities to buy stuff that's level though.
There's a lot of aggressive shit that they can do that will just pluck for life.
And it will happen before you even know it.
Well, you'll be a proud homeowner of six houses in Venezuela without even knowing.
Guess I'm screwed.
Well, anyways, guys, let me know your thoughts in the comments.
Like the video on your way out and subscribe to the channel.
And I said, really?
You're asking?
Yeah, I'm just saying, because, okay, you have to understand my point of view.
The last decade, they've been telling me that my life's going to be ruined because of the data.
Now, I don't know.
Maybe it'll happen in the future.
But like, when is that going to happen?
So, anyways, like the video, subscribe, ring the bell, and I'll see you guys tomorrow.