Pearl Daily’s episode dissects the controversial "hoe phase" in women’s dating life—post-breakup validation-seeking through casual sex, abortions, tattoos, and high-status rebounds—using examples like Gabby Gonzalez (21, 6’1 volleyball player) and a Korean woman who swapped monogamy for group encounters after divorce. Callers Ben (42) and Tyler from Texas argue phases aren’t inherently destructive but often lead to loneliness or settling for lower-caliber partners by their 30s, while Manko Smash (45) contrasts his LA "male hoe phase" (2007–2012) with women’s eventual desire for commitment. The discussion ties financial and social pressures—like IVF urgency, student debt ignored for luxury cars, or hypergamy—to broader critiques of modern dating dynamics, suggesting these phases reflect deeper societal shifts in relationships and self-worth. [Automatically generated summary]
Good afternoon, good evening, ladies and gentlemen.
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.
Today, we are going to be talking about do modern women need a ho-phase?
Now, as you guys know, last week we covered the life cycle of a modern woman.
Now, the traditional conservatives will tell you that I just make this stuff up, but this has been collected from years of experiences of men in the field out there dating.
The men get together, they tell each other the patterns that women do.
And, you know, this can also be confirmed with what we're seeing in front of our eyes.
Yes.
So, all women go through some degree of these cycles.
Now, some women, some phases are longer than others.
Now, this is the modern woman life cycle.
So, modern women will go to a high-priced institution to get a degree that nobody cares about, put themselves into a whole bunch of debt that will be a burden to them for the rest of their lives.
All they learn in school is how to be disagreeable and how to use men.
Now, let's be a little fair to the ladies today.
Does every woman get herself into a ton of debt?
Now, when I think about the ladies I grew up with, you know, I have one friend, and it's interesting because this friend is the most frugal woman I have ever met.
She had a budget every single month in school, and you know, she was beautiful, she was a kind person.
Did she put herself into a ton of debt?
Even though, you know, she never had a ton of makeup on, no plastic surgery, very natural gal, didn't have any crazy spending habits.
But she put herself in six figures worth of debt because we went to a private university.
Now, granted, she got an engineering degree.
Now, I had a different friend from school who she went, she also got, and I'm friends with a lot of female engineers.
You know, I don't know what it is.
I know a lot.
Now, this one woman who was a female engineer went to a public school.
It was out of state, but it was public.
So, it was a bit cheaper than the one that we went to.
Did she put herself into debt?
She was a little bit smarter with it.
She went and got the army to pay it off.
She did ROTC.
And therefore, she was not in a ton of debt.
Different friend of mine went to school, didn't finish, was going for an education degree, dropped out.
Put herself into some debt, but I think she paid it off with her husband in a few years.
It wasn't too bad.
Now, again, there are different degrees that the ladies put themselves into debt.
It's not all the same, but in general, hey, hey, nobody's divorced yet.
Let's not wish ill, but I mean, I don't know.
Okay.
Now, did most of my female friends get more feminist as they went to school?
Now, I had a little bit different of an upbringing.
So, my mom took me to Sarah Palin rallies when I was like 12 or 13 years old.
And I remember arguing, you know, I've always been a little bit odd.
You know, I remember arguing about abortion on the playground.
I specifically remember this.
And I met Sarah Palin when I was like 13 at a rally that we went to.
So, but even I, when I was in school, I think back, when I was in school, it was during the heat of the BLM stuff.
Now, did I march?
Did I join that group?
No.
But I didn't necessarily think it was the worst thing in the world at the time.
In general, if a woman, you know, if a woman is far right arguing about abortion on the playground in high school or middle school to high school, she'll go a little more center.
If a woman is center, she'll go straight left.
And if a woman is if it falls, you know, but then you also get the women that are far right, you know, they're super conservative in high school, then they go shave their head in college.
Who's seen it?
Who's seen it?
I mean, I've seen it, right?
You know, you had that Christian, I'm from a, I went to a Catholic school, right?
And you would see the occasional woman, she'd be like this innocent, nice woman.
She'd go to school, and then all of a sudden she's a lesbian.
You're like, wow.
Okay.
Okay.
The next step in the modern woman life begins when they begin their careers and will buy houses, cars that they can't afford, or spend their money while ignoring their student loan debt.
Now, again, does this mean every woman that you meet goes on trips instead of paying down her student loans?
No.
But a lot of them do.
And generally speaking, it's going to be one or the other.
The friends I know that don't have student debt, they do like to take trips.
I mean, you know, one weekend they're in Barbados.
The next weekend, they're in Dubai.
You know, it's like, what are you guys doing?
And then you guys will be like, Pearl, Pearl, Pearl, Pearl, who are you friends with?
I'm like, the average woman.
What am I going to be alone for the rest of my life?
Anyways, so modern women feel entitled to certain lifestyles when they begin their careers and will buy houses and cars they can't afford, spend all their money and travel while ignoring their student loan debt.
I saw that.
I absolutely, you know, when we graduated school, women got different types of jobs from my school.
Like there was one woman who got a job in supply chain.
There was another woman I knew.
She was going into human resources.
A different woman was going to be a counselor.
But I definitely saw, you know, the men would just kind of drive their old beat up, their family's car they inherited.
But I would see women with perfectly good cars upgrading, buying the newest thing.
Why?
They wanted a new car.
I mean, you see, we buy.
On top of this, I would add Amazon boxes because that's a big thing.
We love our Amazon.
Also, guys, please like the video while you're in here.
Please hit that like button.
So modern women will wake up between the ages of 33 to 37, rush to have kids, find a husband, or both.
You know, I saw, I was listening to Candace Owens today, and she was talking about how a lot of friends of hers were having fertility issues.
My first question would be, were they under the age of 25?
Rich women have money for IVF.
A lot of times, you know, a lot of times, it's a funny thing.
What is the female fantasy, right?
Female fantasy is like Taylor Swift.
Taylor Swift waited until 35 to have a children, family, and a husband.
We'll see if she has it, right?
But let's assume this Travis Kelsey guy works out.
Let's say she marries a Super Bowl champion.
Her getting to do her career, wait till 35, meeting her husband, getting married, and popping out a few kids is the female fantasy with a guy completely out of her league, just objectively, right?
Now, this is not good nor bad.
This is not right nor wrong.
This is choices and trade-offs, and you can make that choice for Taylor Swift.
Will it probably work out?
I'd go 50-50.
I mean, I think she'll get married and divorced, you know, but I do think she'll pull off a kid from a guy out of her league.
I would put money on that.
Next, modern women will hit their late 30s and early 40s, get pregnant by a loser, go through IVF, or get a husband with no standards.
Because quite frankly, a husband with standards isn't going to date women over 35.
I mean, they want a kid, or they're not getting married without a kid or two.
And you're at high-risk pregnancy after the age of 35.
Then modern women will start on antidepressants and become alcoholics.
I mean, how many, you know, and why are the ladies becoming alcoholics?
You know, I really think the right and the left both have it wrong.
When you're treated like a celebrity in your 20s, being saddled down with the husband and kids is going to be boring to you.
I mean, if you can lock down the man of your dreams, sure, maybe they're entertained.
But how many ladies pull that off?
How many ladies pull that off?
None.
And then lastly, we buy a dog or a cat and die alone.
That's it.
That's the modern woman life cycle.
But during this life cycle, there are a couple phases.
And I need to fix something in the back really quick.
Like the video while I go fix it, please.
And I'm going to go through the phases.
And then we're going to do a call-in.
But there's 312 of you in here.
Let's get to 312 likes.
Give me a second.
Okay, I'm back.
Okay, guys, I'm back.
Now, let's talk about the phases.
Now, I'd like to say these phases go in no particular order.
In general, you know, let me correct myself.
In general, these phases have a traditional order, but some ladies have them in different orders.
So the first phase is the hoe phase.
Now, the hoe phase tends to be with the ladies that go to schools.
The bigger the school, the bigger the hoe.
Now, the reason I say that is because at a big school, you can get away with a lot more.
You really can.
I mean, there's a million fraternities and sports teams.
The men aren't going to know each other.
If she's in a sorority, that's times 10.
You can let me know you guys' experience.
You guys are the ones that date women, but this is just what I'm hearing.
You know, next, we got the find herself phase.
Now, we got the Christian and spiritual phase, the health phase, the gym phase, the healing phase, and so many others.
Now, usually there is some type of event in a modern woman's life that triggers a phase.
They find a cause, and the phase is the effect from their cause.
So we're going to paint the picture.
There was a social media couple that really demonstrates perfectly the modern woman life cycle.
So Tyler Burgentino and Gabby Gonzalez made the rounds on social media when Tyler met her on the street during an interview.
Tyler is 31 years old, 6'9, and a former basketball player and a successful funds director at Fidelity Investments.
So this guy is a chat.
He's got looks.
He's, you know, got a good job.
He's going places.
Gabby is 21, 6'1, and a former college volleyball player and content creator.
Now, we're going to see the beginning of their relationship.
So we're going to pull this up.
I gotta pull this up.
Let me text my guy.
Hold on, guys.
Oh, here we go.
Okay.
I'm 6'4 right now, but without heels, 6'1.
Oh, you got the heels on?
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
So you wear heels?
Yeah, of course.
A lot of tall girls don't wear heels.
That breaks my heart.
I think all girls should wear heels.
Why do you think tall girls are like shy sometimes?
Oh, gosh.
I mean, we get a lot of attention.
And so, like, a lot of girls think of it as negative attention, but you just got to embrace it.
If I'm 6'1, might as well be 6'4.
Tall girl, Matt.
Tall girl will be a little bit more.
What's your ideal height for a guy?
I care more about who they are as a person, but I don't really know if I have an ideal height.
I've been with men that are taller than me and shorter me and shorter than me, and both of them have sucked.
So it's not really about height.
Okay, so she's saying both of them have sucked.
She's 21.
Who's she dating right now, guys?
The bad boys.
Now, this guy, he's clean cut.
He looks like a genuine guy.
I mean, you don't get really player vibes off of him.
Genuine guy.
Just bad men across the board.
What you say?
I don't really care about height, but I'd say like 6'9 is probably a good height.
I like her.
Okay.
6'9.
Any reason why you said 6'9?
Because that's how tall I am.
Oh, no way.
Yeah.
Oh, wait.
So then what's your ideal height in a woman?
How tall are you again?
I feel like everyone's really picky when it comes to height, when in reality, if you're just a good person and you're cool and you're willing to grow with somebody, that should be enough.
I agree completely.
That's what I'm saying.
Like, a lot of girls will think, oh, shorter men are insecure, but a lot of taller men are insecure, too.
So people will just like hate on people over something they can't even control.
So heart over height, I like that.
That's a good one.
Yeah, so this is, again, watching what she says.
You know, that's a good virtue signal.
No, I don't care about height.
And I just, let's, let's end this, ladies.
But.
Height mattered to me.
Like, I mean, I don't, let's not gaslight the men for virtue signaling, right?
Let's not play pretend.
You know, it's if we're, and I, and I, look at, and I'll give you guys.
We're going to go back to the video.
Gabby.
All right, we have to, we got to do.
Yeah, I got to interview you.
I interview people too.
You interview people?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you're going to ask me questions?
Yeah.
I'm passing the mic.
Give me you and I. Give me the mic.
Where are we going?
Like you and I?
Okay.
So now everybody was gushing relationship, even conservatives.
And this is why I say conservatives don't know what they're talking about.
They really don't.
Now, Brett Cooper gushed over this relationship.
She said, ah, they're going to get married and stay married.
This is so heartwarming.
And they always call us the bitter red pill.
If I'm looking at that objectively, right?
If I'm looking at that relationship objectively, I know that woman is 21.
She's going to have too many opportunities to turn them down and be in a relationship.
She will not cash out until she's older.
She won't do it.
All of the free stuff, the influence her career.
You might say Pearl, but Brett Cooper cashed out.
Pearl, Pearl, Pearl, Brett, but she cashed it well.
There's a lot of money in that, right?
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but we got to look at the incentives here.
Would she have cashed out if the influencer career wasn't there?
The conservative trad girl influencer career.
That's a good incentive.
Now, I want to show you her take and my doomer take, but I was right.
Everyone says, Pearl, Pearl, Pearl.
You're such a doomer.
I'm right.
I'm right more than I'm wrong.
Okay, let me pull it up.
Or miss one of our comment section episodes.
All right, so there is this guy on TikTok.
His name is Tyler, and he goes around and he does man on the street interviews.
And he is 6'9.
And so he will often do content about how bothersome it is to be that tall, like trying to sit in economy on planes, or he'll do videos with like really, really, really short people and they'll compare and contrast their experiences.
Anyway, he is relatively known on TikTok.
And last week, he went to Miami to do some content and he happened to do a man on the street interview with another girl who's also a content creator who is also super tall.
Like she's 6'1.
And folks, the sparks were flying.
Like, if you want to know how to flirt, like how to see if there is chemistry, you just got to watch this because it is going to reinstill hope that love is out there.
All right, here we go.
How tall are you?
I'm 6'4 right now, but without heels, 6'1.
Oh, you got the heels on?
Yeah.
Okay.
Friends that are going to skip it because we just watched this, but I'm going to reinstate conservatives do not know what they're talking about.
They don't.
They do not.
I could have seen this coming from a mile away.
You know what?
I need to predict a couple divorces just so I get this on camera because I'm really tired of thinking these things because I thought this when it came out.
Haley Bieber will divorce in the next five years and so will Blake Lively.
Somebody time stamp this so I can come back and I'll tell you why.
Haley Bieber, Drake's ex Blake Lively, Leonardo DiCaprio's ex those two guys are the kiss of death.
It was the kiss of death on Giselle.
It will be Blake Lively.
Thank you.
It might as well be 6'4.
Tall girl man.
So sweet.
Like also, I have so many friends that are tall.
And I think guys walk around and they go, oh, she would never date me.
She would never date me because I'm shorter than her.
Or they're intimidated by her.
All of my tall friends, and I have a lot of them that are like 5'11 plus, they have all dated short guys.
Okay, but now I gotta ask the question.
Now, again, when I think back to my volleyball teammates, sure, they dated short guys within reason.
Right?
I mean, I would say two to three inches, depending on the height.
Like if a woman's 6'5, she might go down to 6'2.
Personally, I'm like 5'10.
That's like, you know, I'd say that's about average.
Now, did they marry any of the men shorter than them?
They didn't.
Who dumped who?
That's the question.
Who broke up with who?
Let's just be honest.
Let's just, I'm not talking about what sounds good.
That's what this is the thing.
Conservatives, they have these, and I don't, she's such a sweet woman.
Like, she's a sweet girl, right?
But a lot of times conservatives present what sounds good because their brand, what they're selling, is Christianity, right?
Their brand is God is the answer.
God will solve your problems.
And so will being a conservative.
No, it won't.
No, it won't.
Let me pull this back up.
Two of them are actually either married or in serious relationships moving towards marriage with guys that are shorter than them.
So I'm just saying, if you see a tall girl out there, do not discount her because you-I need to know specifics.
How much shorter?
How much shorter?
That's my question.
Two to three inches.
You got a strong face card.
I would say, let me think.
The women I knew that dated guys shorter.
It would be like 6'3, 6'1.
It would be, yeah, that would be like the average.
If a woman was 6'3, she'd go down to 6'1.
You think she will not want you?
She's probably looking for a guy to date because everybody's saying the same thing.
Just saying, just putting it out there.
I don't really.
Now, again, it's the, she's probably looking for a guy to date.
Now, do women want to date men?
Are they interested in men at all?
Okay.
Where would there be more signups?
An OnlyFans school or a traditional conservative wife school?
Okay.
Women have the power of dating apps where they get 3,000 matches with one app.
How many are seriously dating aggressively to get a husband?
To get married?
You know, the ladies, they don't want to be in relationships.
They just don't.
We don't realize it yet.
I don't really care about height, but I'd say like 6'9 is probably a good height.
I like her.
Guys, I was smooth.
She was putting it out there.
See, that's when you know.
Oh, she's into it.
She gave a little, she's not saying, please date me.
I would like you to take me to dinner, but she that was a wink.
See, you just got to break this stuff down because nobody knows how to do it anymore.
It's like a math equation.
Any reason why you said 6'9?
Because that's how tall I am.
Oh, no way.
Yeah.
Oh, wait.
So then, what's your ideal height in a woman?
How tall are you again?
I feel like everyone's really picky when it comes to height, but in reality, if you're just a good person and you're cool and you're willing to grow with somebody, that should be enough.
What's your name?
Gabby.
All right, we have to.
We gotta do.
Yeah, I gotta interview you.
I interview people too.
You interview people?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're gonna ask me questions?
Yeah.
I'm so excited.
Oh, I give you the mic.
Where are we going?
Like, you and I?
Ew!
I'm so excited.
I love it.
I talk about so many terrorists.
Yeah.
And again, this is the, I hate to say it.
I hate to say it, but conservatives have the like, oh my God, you know, the, it's a very immature mindset.
It's not realistic.
And I hate to be the doomer, but there's no evidence that anything is coming back at all.
Birth rate going down.
More women are going to school than men.
Women are getting fatter.
Modern women getting fatter.
Let me just keep going.
Let me keep going.
Terrible things on the show.
And so whenever I see something cute, I'm like, I'm like sitting over here, like kicking my feet.
Like, this is so much fun.
Like, guys, that was natural.
That was smooth.
There was so much chemistry.
And guys, I know your fingers are about to be clacking.
You're about to say, Brett, he's tall and hot.
Yeah, I know.
Hold the comments.
And how long did it last?
Seven months.
I could have seen this coming.
Why?
Because she took off.
She got really famous.
Fame has a tendency to keep women single because you get too many choices.
You do.
Please, just for a second, we are getting to that.
Just be patient.
Because then they did do another video where she was sort of asking the questions, and it just gets better.
And we're getting to the point, I promise.
We just got to go on the journey, folks.
We've got another chapter before we dive into this analysis.
How's the dating life at 6'9?
I'm single, if that's what you're asking.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Are you single?
Yeah.
I should have asked that.
So, why are you single then?
I mean, why is anybody single?
Dating life is tough out there.
I agree.
For you?
There we go.
Dating is even hard for an objectively attractive man who could be an NBA player thanks to his height.
Just know everyone.
So the red pill is right.
It's never good enough.
It's never good enough.
Seven months.
Everybody is in the trenches.
It's not just you.
Everybody is in the trenches.
Not that that makes it better, but it's kind of nice to know that you aren't alone, you know?
Okay.
It's yeah, very hard.
The ladies are not in the trenches at all.
At all.
The ladies have so much choice.
It's ridiculous.
You can download Hinge and filter by race, height, age, religion.
The ladies have a lot of choice.
No, it's not.
I could say the same thing to you.
I'm a guy, though.
It's different.
Like, people just want to date me because I'm 6'9.
That is true.
That is very true.
I have a friend.
I think he's 6'5.
And I mean, he walks into a bar.
He could be wearing a hoodie and joggers.
Okay, I want to go.
And women are just like, it's like a rom-com, guys, on TikTok.
Like, yeah, right?
Oh, yeah.
I like that.
They could be tall together.
Okay, wait.
He's about to ask her out.
It's like a rom-com, guys, on TikTok.
Seven months.
Seven months.
And just to confirm, you said you are single.
Yes, I am single.
And you are right.
Yes, I'm single.
What are you doing tomorrow?
Um, nothing.
You want your coffee?
Yeah.
Tomorrow?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yay.
Even if people got nothing from this episode, and even if I didn't try to like make a broader point about dating, I would still want to talk about this because it brings me so much joy.
This is what I want to see on TikTok.
It's 11 o'clock at night when I'm scrolling on TikTok.
This is the kind of content.
Yeah.
And so this is the, this is, I love this video because it shows the issue with conservatives.
Somebody gets married and has a kid.
Yay.
Somebody has a positive dating experience.
Yay.
Funny thing happens when, for me, when I interviewed a ton of people, you know, I would see the couples that started off as yay and see where they ended up.
And I would think, oh, dang.
You know, that couple, and you start to see it in your personal life, right?
Like, I mean, Steven Crowder, I use him as an example a lot.
Stephen and Hillary, virgin wife, they did it the right way.
Divorced.
If you look at Dennis Prager, divorced.
meghan kelly divorced um so you see how this stuff ends at Even the femininity coaches divorced.
We're on rentals.
We are not in lifelong relationships.
All relationships are rentals.
That is where we're at in society.
So, you know, here, let me keep going.
And I want to be fed.
China, if you're listening, remember that.
I get way too many sad crying videos.
Anyway, back to the point.
I am blushing over here.
I am giggling.
Three-month free trial of all 6,000 plus prayers and meditations.
Again, that is hallow.com/slash Cooper to redeem that deal.
Everybody got to get to praying because this needs to work out.
All right.
So my friend Allie on Twitter, who I love, and I've told you guys to go follow her before.
Yeah, again, this is another Twitter girl that just has the dumbest brain-dead takes.
And she has the most balanced and nuanced takes on dating.
No, she has the stupidest takes I've ever seen in my life.
So stupid.
My God, it's like the dumbest in the modern age that anyone I've ever met.
The dumbest.
So go follow her.
But she posted about this whole situation.
Please don't.
And she said, solid flirting in action.
No pickup lines.
Just relate to her like a normal human being and wait to ask her out until you're getting positive feedback.
Have established you guys can carry on a one-minute convo.
Exactly what we talked about.
Okay, what do women know?
I'm never going to advise you on how to ask a woman out or approach a woman because I know there's no way in hell I could teach you how to do that.
I don't approach women.
I don't date women.
But what is it with ladies having the nerve to think they have any clue on how to approach women?
And how did this end after seven months?
Dun, dun, dun.
Last week.
Dating should not be following a girl around a store or a bar and just out of the blue asking her out or asking for her Snapchat.
Please, God, do not do that.
And then getting pissed when she's awkward and uncomfortable and says no, or a girl getting freaked out and just calling the guy a creep because he didn't really do it well.
Like you have to lay the groundwork.
It is a dance between the man and the woman.
You have to gently figure out if there is interest.
And this guy figured it out.
And the girl gave good signals.
That's another thing.
The girls have to know how to give off those vibes.
I remember my mom, who we all love, called one of my friends at one point because she was having just like the worst time dating.
She was like, I feel like I'm giving off signals, but I don't know.
And my mom was like, you got to brush his shoulder.
You got to, you got to give him a little touch, a little like, come on, slide in.
I mean, it was like the funniest conversation, but it also is up to the woman to give off those signals.
And of course, like.
Okay.
I think my only point is conservatives are just so naive.
It drives me like Liz Wheeler.
She was responding to me on Twitter today.
And because there is a woman who is naked praying in church, she was like half naked, praying in church next to some nuns.
And I said, kick her out.
You know, I'm going to tell you a story.
When I was 18, I went to the Vatican in Rome.
And I'm very, very tall.
I'm six foot.
And sometimes, even now, you guys see these arms on these sleeves.
I get lazy, okay?
I don't feel like going to the tall store.
I don't feel like getting stuff custom ordered.
Stuff is small.
Stuff is short.
It's not a good thing.
I know, I know, I know, no excuses, but that's my excuse.
Okay.
I'm giving it anyway.
Now, when I was 18, I went to these churches in Rome and it was so hot.
And I was wearing, I mean, shorts, like probably halfway down your thigh.
Like, I mean, they weren't like boot, you know, but they were short.
And the priests kicked me out.
I swear.
I went into the church and the priests, they said, get out of here.
They were like, they wouldn't even talk to me.
They just waved.
They said, pew, pew, pew.
Why don't we bring that back?
Like, and I'm seeing Liz Wheeler on my timeline.
Let me, I'm going to, you know what?
I'm going to do a side segment because I just can't stand the stupidity of conservatives.
It's just driving, it's driving me insane.
I just can't, I can't take it anymore.
I can't.
Like, yeah, here we go.
She says, I think, okay, this is, this is the video.
Do you think this woman doesn't know that that's inappropriate for a church?
I'm sorry.
Does she look over the age of 18 to you guys?
How old do you think she is?
Do you really think she has no idea?
Now, what do the church people say?
This may be the first time this lady is entering a church, and I am grateful she is there.
The Lord says, Come as you are.
Don't expect us all to be perfect and holy to come to Mass.
Fine, you don't have to be perfect.
But the equivalent is to have a cokehead come in and be actively doing drugs in church.
Imagine, imagine, a cokehead is sitting on the pew, snorting his cocaine and just snorting it.
Do you think the coke head knows that's inappropriate for a church?
It's the same thing.
Do you think that hooker knows that she shouldn't be naked in church?
I'm not asking for much, but my God, I mean, give her one of these.
You know, there's a button up shirt.
Like, come on.
Craziness.
Guys, hit that like button.
Please hit the like button.
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Now, Lauren, I thought it was Liz Wheeler.
Who the hell is this?
Isn't this Liz Wheeler?
I totally, oh, this is another woman.
Oh my gosh, I thought this was Liz Wheeler.
They have like the same profile picture.
Oh, she's a catfish too.
My God.
She's not as bad as the other ones, though.
Okay, sorry.
Lauren Witzke.
She says, I think she, it depends.
She is a newcomer trying to come and repent for her sins and seek Christ.
Or has she been to church before and knows better than to show up like this?
You guys are idiots.
Not you guys in the chat.
You guys in the chat know what's going on.
But these ladies are dumb.
Oh, by the way, what you get with the membership is I read your chat on the website.
If you want me to read your chat, put Pearl Read and I will read it on the website.
And then she goes, Yeah, having grace is one of those pesky traditional values.
Okay, can we think about this?
That's what she said.
Having grace is one of those traditional values.
Think about the cokehead coming into church.
Now, it would be one thing if he comes in as sober as he can be and he starts praying.
He says, This is my rock bottom.
I'm praying.
And he's respectful.
He sits at the back.
He doesn't draw a lot of attention to himself.
he goes into church and starts doing coke okay pearl jacob says i got financial aid in college and many of the girls in the same program as me were driving new cars to campus Yes.
Now let's talk about, you know, Tyler, again, he's a 6'9 Giga Chad.
He's got everything going for him.
Charisma, he's successful.
Top 5% of men.
How long did they last?
Seven months.
Let's pull this up.
Now, again, because a lot of you guys think it's just the OnlyFans hoes, not all women are like that.
Like, by all means, she doesn't dress super promiscuously.
Does she look like a, she doesn't look like a 304 to me.
I mean, she looks like your girl next door.
She looks beautiful.
But the streets were calling.
I don't know what to tell you guys.
Let's see.
And this is what Tyler says.
Gabby and I broke up.
We had a lot of different beliefs.
And the distance, not only physically, but where we were at in our life, I think just ended up being too much.
And that's okay.
That's okay.
So you can tell he's really torn up about it.
He's sad.
You can tell.
Breakups suck, you know.
And the public eye breakup is new for me, and it's definitely something that I just wanted to let you guys know because you've been involved from the very beginning in Miami.
And you've cared for us and you've supported us.
And I wanted to let you guys know.
And I know you all wanted us to work out.
And so did I.
This isn't going to be one of those toxic type of social media breakups.
I want you all to know that.
We're not picking sides.
We're not doing that.
I wish her nothing but the best.
I wish her happiness.
I hope she finds everything that she's looking for.
The story that we had was amazing.
The stars aligned.
I mean, everything falling into place as perfectly as it did.
Neither of us can take credit for that.
Like, nobody can take credit for that.
That was one of those God things.
And just please keep us in your prayers, y'all.
This is not an easy route to navigate.
But I just want to say that there's still love out there.
And there's love out there for me.
There's love out there for you.
Your person's out there.
No, that's true.
There is love out there.
But love is a rental.
You can't buy it.
It's not lifelong.
It's rental.
Just because it didn't work out with her and I doesn't mean those random encounters that lead to a spark and lead to love don't exist.
Love is real.
And it's out there for you.
It's out there for me.
Love y'all.
And don't get me wrong.
He'll do better.
He'll do better and hotter and she'll get probably get passed around.
I mean.
Let me pull up hers.
Gabby breakup.
Gabby, Tyler, here we go.
Here's her.
Hey, guys.
Wanted to come on here and address the fact that Tyler and I are no longer dating.
And I need to make this video before I can close out this chapter of my life because we did choose to make our relationship extremely public.
I want to start off by saying I wish him nothing but the best.
He just is not my person and I am not his.
And that's okay.
Love still exists.
Love is everywhere.
Everything's going to be okay.
And I also want to say that this was a very real relationship.
So Tyler and I started talking back in May.
We knew we liked each other instantly.
And once we filmed that video, we didn't even want to post it because we were so scared about if social media was going to ruin it if we did start dating like we thought we would.
And it ended up being the best decision ever.
You guys were so supportive.
I have never seen so much positivity on social media genuinely, like towards our relationship.
And I'm very grateful for that.
However, this is also a very real breakup.
And we are two human beings that are going to need to heal from this.
And personally, I like to heal in private.
I don't want to be talking about this.
I don't want to have to make any other videos about this.
I just want you guys to be aware that I'm moving on, he's moving on, and you're not going to be seeing him on my page anymore.
And everything will be okay.
I'm going to be healing in private, growing and still sharing my life with you guys.
I was a content creator before.
I'm going to keep doing that after.
And that's pretty much it.
So I'm very grateful for all the experiences that we've had together.
But I am excited to just move forward with my own path and wish him nothing but the best again.
Now we got to think of the incentives here.
What's her incentive?
She can go be a mega influencer, get her pick of guys, be worshipped, or be saddled down with a normal guy who's a giga chad, but like still.
Now let's see how she's doing.
And she's had to have posted since this, right?
Guys, Leia and I just had the craziest.
Nope.
Hey, guys, I just wanted to come.
Has not.
Let me look at some of their date nights.
We decided to stay in tonight.
Yeah, we have been out and about on the go nonstop.
Now, what you'll notice is people that use their relationship for clout, like post it, make a couples page, usually the relationships on her terms, not his, because men don't typically want to make that part of their life public.
And we've just been craving a movie night at home.
Well, at a hotel in this case.
And we wanted to watch Fly Me to the Moon.
So I'm a big space guy.
I'm a big rom-com girl.
We both love rom-coms.
Yeah, I know.
Beta, you, but you can tell he has a beta mindset.
It's not really the it's that it's not about looks necessarily, it's the mindset.
I love Channing Tatum.
And I love Scarlett Johansson.
And they sent us this really cute box.
Like Tyler made us drinks.
Yeah, with a rocket ship shaker.
I was so excited about the moon cheese.
I had never had moon cheese before this.
You know that's crazy.
I know.
And the popcorn looked good.
The drinks were amazing.
I'm most excited to watch the actual movie.
I'm a big film guy and we're surrounded by the most iconic theaters here in Hollywood right now.
I know, but we're still choosing to stay in and watch this on Apple TV Plus.
And you guys can watch it with us.
Now, hey guys, I just wanted to come on here and address the fact that Tyler and I are no longer dating Turn this off.
Sorry guys.
Okay.
So again, what's my take?
She wanted to go crazy.
Now, what is a hoe face?
Let's say, I mean, what is it?
Pearl, every girl doesn't have a whole face.
And that's true, right?
I mean, you can't say 100% of women have hoe faces.
Some are worse than others.
But let's talk about the things that make a whole phase a whole phase.
Number one, casual sex with a lot of men.
Number two, abortions, tattoos, piercings, STDs, trauma, concerts, fun, events, a fun job, excessive attention.
So this is why you'll notice conservative commentators, they never have kids below 25.
They always push it off as long as humanly possible that they can keep, that we can keep our brands, right?
Now, our whole phase is necessary.
Let's do the ladies.
What do the ladies say?
These are necessary for girls?
Absolutely.
Why?
Everybody goes through at least one during college.
They're fun sometimes.
Yeah, they can be friends sometimes.
Only for some people, though.
You're trying to find yourself.
There's one.
Okay, let's keep going.
Do you think there are any benefits to having a whole phase after a breakup?
I think it's fun and it's good to get attention when you weren't given it from someone you thought like was supposed to give you attention.
Do you think there are any benefits to having a whole phase after a breakup?
I think it's fun and it's good to get attention when you weren't given it from someone you thought like was supposed to give you attention.
It's kind of like an ego trip, I think, that built after like, yeah, like it doesn't work out.
It's like, I don't know.
I feel like people, people's confidence wavers and they need to find something or someone to tell them they're pretty and say all the things they need to hear and people do it.
Whatever, you know?
But I mean, how can a woman really benefit from getting railed by multiple dudes to try and fill an emotional void?
It depends what you define as a hoe.
How do men, how do men get by with railing multiple girls for no emotional feel?
I feel like the hoe stage can be taken differently though.
Like that's like talking.
Okay.
That's another.
Let's keep going.
There are a couple things that I feel like we need to chat about.
JC, your hoe era.
Do you want to exp that I feel like there are a couple things that I feel like we need to chat about.
JC, your hoe era.
Do you want to explain this to the circlers if they don't know?
The hoe era is essentially me reclaiming how I want to dress.
I grew up Mormon.
I grew up very religious and I grew up dressing very modestly, quote unquote.
This year is about reclaiming my power and becoming a hoe.
Now, does this look like a ratchet girl?
Is this just a Miami girl?
I mean, this girl grew up Mormon.
But the conservatives will say, well, not all women are like that.
No one said all, but enough.
And when I say hoe, am I going to go like be hooking up with people?
No, because I'm happily married.
Right.
So I'm going to show my shoulders, my legs, and my midriff, and maybe some chest and like neckline situation as well.
If you're feeling up to it.
Yeah.
Whoa, whoa.
Let's slow down.
I'll go one step at a time.
Now she'll get excess attention for that.
How will that end?
How do we see that ending badly?
Okay, next.
One thing about me, though, is I will support a hoe phase.
The whole hoe phase.
I don't care what happens after a breakup, after a divorce, after, you know what, you just feeling like being a hoe.
Go be a hoe.
Start from the beginning.
One thing about me, though, is I will support a hoe phase.
The whole hoe phase.
I don't care what happens after a breakup, after a divorce, after you know what, you just feeling like being a hoe.
Go be a hoe.
For me, my only thing is do it safely.
As your fairy smut mother, I would prefer you to text me saying, Here's my location.
I've had friends send me lift locations so I can watch that she got to and from work safely.
I will be that friend, okay?
If you live five states away from me and you still want at least somebody you trust to have your location, let that be me.
Okay, I will not judge you for your hoe.
I will not judge you for how many eggplants you stick on, how many tacos you eat.
I will not care.
Are you happy?
Bomb tastic.
Are you being safe?
Wonderful.
You learned something new about yourself?
Fan fucking tastic.
Okay.
I know.
Stop judging people for their ho phase.
Just support them.
Okay.
I know the chat is roll out the STD videos next.
All right.
So the question really today, I'm going to put this link in the chat.
Is how many likes do we have on this video?
Let me refresh this.
The question we have today in the chat is: Do I want to know a couple things from the men and the women, okay?
And I want to know from your personal experience.
If you're calling into my show, please do not say you don't want to go personal.
Then why are you calling?
Don't say that.
Oh, that's too.
These are the questions that I'm going to be asking you.
Number one: Do women need to have a hoe phase?
Number two, have you dated or been a woman in a hoe phase?
Three, it depends if you're a guy or a girl.
If you're a guy, what was it like dating a woman in her hoe phase?
Or if you're a girl, what was your hoe phase like?
What do you consider a hoe phase?
These are the questions today.
Now, I'm going to put this link in the chat.
So let me please have your cameras on.
And hold on.
How do I share this?
And I can give you the option to not be on camera.
Totally fine.
If you have a story and you don't want your face to it, totally fine.
I need to say, see your face though at first on the screen.
And I'll first ask, is it okay if you're on camera?
Hear that, producer?
Don't put them on until I get a yes or no.
But the reason I need you guys to show your face to me is we have had issues with trolls.
One day I was traumatized with some gross stuff, and I just don't, I don't need that in my life.
So, okay, let me share.
I had it earlier.
What did I do?
Participate.
Oh, copy invite link.
Okay, we're going to put that in the chat.
Okay.
Yeah, I was traumatized.
Traumatized.
Sorry, the link.
I was traumatized because somebody put some corn on the screen.
And my producer didn't see it at first.
And so I'm like, hey.
Hey.
I want, I'm like being forced.
To watch this disgusting.
Oh yeah.
So you guys I don't know who did that, but you guys ruined it.
You ruined it for everyone.
Um, now i'm gonna put this in the chat and we're going to pin it.
I'm also gonna send this to somebody who said they wanted to call in.
Uh, where the heck is wait where, hold on, I gotta find one more person.
Oh, here we go, there we go.
Okay, so now we have, we're gonna, we're testing a new way to do the zoom, so I have a little more control over it.
There might be a hiccup.
Okay, there might be.
We're gonna see how this goes.
Um, let's see.
Uh Chris, I need your camera on.
You're not on the screen now, but I do need to see that you're an actual person.
Craziness.
Guys, hit.
Hold on.
Let's see if this works.
Um okay, can you hear me, Chris?
It covers the whole thing.
We need to do this for three months.
Um, you get a yearly membership.
Now Lauren, one second, i'm trying to fix something.
Uh, it looks like I have something playing, I don't know what.
Um, is it the zoom or is it do?
Are you playing?
You're not playing my video.
If you are, could you mute it?
It might be you.
All right, i'm good.
God, she's not as bad as the other ones, though.
Okay sorry, Lauren Witski, she said I think she.
It depends.
Where is this coming from?
She is a newcomer.
Hold on, give me a second.
It's not you.
Where is this coming from?
Where is it?
I don't see any tabs open.
They're saying i'm playing my live stream, but I don't see any tabs open.
That's why i'm confused.
Okay, let me take him out and for a second and then put in waiting room.
Let me try it again.
No see, it's gone.
Let me see.
Oh, it must have been his thing.
Okay, we're gonna try one more time.
View the waiting room because I think it must be him.
Uh, let me go back.
Respectful, he sits at the back.
He doesn't draw a lot of attention.
I gotta have you turn off your um.
Oh, it's off now.
I think are you playing my live stream?
Uh, no, okay, better, better.
Now I can.
How are you?
Okay, Pearl Jacob says, I got financial aid in college, and many of the girls in the same program as me were driving new cars to campus.
Yes, what the heck?
Now let's talk about put in the waiting room.
It goes away when I get rid of him.
So, I don't.
I'm gonna try someone else and see if it's just the no, I'm not.
Um, I'm gonna try someone else and see if we have the same problem.
Um, hello, hello.
Let's see if that works.
I think it's working.
Okay, wait, hold on.
I want to make sure it doesn't echo.
Wait, hold on.
I want to make sure it doesn't echo.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Okay.
Okay, I'm getting.
I'm sorry.
I didn't mean to.
I don't have it playing.
OK, guys, I guess maybe I could do a Twitter space.
I think it's going to have to be my option.
Okay, I guess we're going to do the Twitter space again because the Zoom isn't working, sadly enough.
Okay, let me...
All right.
Do women need a ho phase?
All right.
You guys are going to have to go to Twitter.
I'm sorry. I said Pearl needs to hire more staff.
Well, okay, then sign up for my website.
I don't know what to tell you.
The Pearl needs a ho phase.
All right.
Does women, do women need a hoe face?
Let me set up this Twitter space.
One second.
No, how do I do it?
Live.
Here we go.
Start a space.
Okay.
Do women need a ho phase.
Call and show.
Okay.
I'm going to turn this down for a second.
Now I'm going to have to tell the people on Twitter, give them a little intro to the background of the talking point.
I said, Pearl, sorry, I'm ready now.
No, it's not you guys's fault.
We just don't know how to...
We're having issues.
Okay, I'm about to give the people on Twitter the background, but I'm going to wait one second.
I had to close out all my tabs, so I need to go back.
Oh, and I'd love to know, what happened to the former host that you know?
You know, what did, you know, a lot of times we have this fantasy in the RP of these women living terrible lives the rest of their lives.
But I'm going to be honest, guys, some hoes have happy endings.
There's one woman I knew in school.
I call her probably the biggest hoe on my team.
I mean, she was with everybody.
The other day, I looked her up.
She got a boyfriend senior year.
She's still with that guy.
That's a longer relationship than some of the prudes had.
You know?
Okay.
Now.
All right.
Hello to Twitter.
Twitter, this is a combination show from my show on YouTube.
We had issues with the Zoom, so I'm accepting Twitter spaces.
But just know when you call in, you are also live on YouTube.
Now, today we spoke about the modern woman life cycle.
Now, I'm going to tell you guys the modern woman life cycle to start.
One, go to some high-priced institution to get a degree no one cares about to put themselves into debt.
Barely learn anything except how to use men for things.
Number two, get a job that's too stressful and doesn't care about you.
In reality, the job is not hard or stressful, but we do convince ourselves it is.
You know, it's not like we're plumbers out there or electricians.
We're working as assistants and human resources.
You know what I mean?
Three, ignore the student debt, buy a house, travel, and get a luxury car.
Wake up at 33 to 37, rush to get a husband.
Kids are both hit late 30s and early 40s.
Try to get pregnant by some loser or an IVF.
Start antidepressants at 40.
Maybe love the child, but have to settle.
And last, buy a dog or a cat and die alone.
Now, I talked about that last week.
This week, I was talking about the different phases that women go through.
Now, the first is the ho phase.
Now, this often happens in college, but don't you worry.
Some ladies marry young and get a divorce later.
You know, there's a reason the divorce rate under 25 getting married is lower than after 25.
It's because some ladies felt like they missed out.
You know, the find yourself phase, the Christian spiritual phase, the health phase, the gym phase, the healing phase.
There's many others.
But today we focused on the ho phase.
Now, what is a ho phase?
A ho phase is casual sex with lots of men, abortions, tattoos, piercings, STDs, trauma, concerts, fun events, fun jobs, excessive attention.
Now, I showed some videos on my show of the lady saying, yes, yes, we need a ho phase.
And today, I don't want to hear about your morality or the way the world should be.
I don't care.
Because this isn't a wish list show.
It's really not.
This show, I want to hear about your personal experiences.
So I want to hear about: Have you ever dated a woman in her ho phase?
Like you can comment on any of these topics.
So if you're a guy, have you ever dated a woman in her ho phase or that wanted to be in her ho phase?
What was that like?
Or on the contrary, have you ever dated a woman that didn't have a ho phase and it impacted the relationship?
Like maybe you wish she did.
And what do you consider a ho phase?
What is it like?
How many?
What's this?
I want to get specifics here.
Now, please, if you're trying to argue today, this just isn't the show.
It's not a debate.
I want to know from your personal experience, like I want stories of who you've dated or why you have that opinion.
Not, you know, religion or anything like that or history.
I want to know in real life, what have you seen?
Now, to be fair, I'm going to give you guys two stories about two women I knew.
I'll give you, I'll give three women I knew.
So I spoke about this on Twitter the other day.
There was a woman on my volleyball team in college.
The biggest hoe.
You know, she hooked up with my brother once.
I was really mad at him for that.
I really was.
I just felt like it was rude.
You know what I mean?
Whatever.
And I recently looked her up the other day because I was curious.
This woman had been in a seven-year relationship.
I never would have thought, ever, never would have thought.
I was like, wow, that's longer than some of the women that weren't hoes.
You know, but then there's another girl that was a hoe.
She's been perpetually single ever since.
There's one girl that was a prude that's married.
Now, there's one girl that's a prude that's by herself.
You know, so, and the interesting thing is when you interview a lot of people, you do see women that didn't have ho phases, you see them go crazy later.
Then you see women go too far in their hoe phase.
Like, I've just seen it all.
I've seen both sides.
I, if I wanted to, I could make a compelling argument either way because I've met so many people in my life.
But this isn't for me to make an argument.
I want to know your experience.
Okay, YouTube, I think Twitter's caught up.
I gave them a recap.
So now I'm going to accept speakers.
Again, the questions are: do women need to have a ho phase from your dating experience?
Have you ever dated a woman who's been in her foe phase?
Maybe she stopped it.
Maybe she never had one.
She left you to go have one.
I don't know.
What was it like dating a woman in her ho phase or before she had one?
What do you consider a ho phase?
You can comment on any of those topics.
Okay.
I'm going to start with Ben.
Hello, Ben.
Welcome to the show.
You can unmute your mic.
Hi, Paul.
Sorry.
I've always found your perspective enjoyable.
Let me say it that way.
I don't agree with all of it, but I agree with a lot of it.
I think you're very brave to make the statements you make.
I have dated women in a hoe phase, as you would call it.
In England, we probably don't have a word for that yet.
But by the time I was 18, I dated three girls who were bisexual.
And one of them became my long-term partner for a while.
And I don't think that anybody needs to have a phase in order to make other people feel a certain way about them.
I think people have phases.
And if I look at, I'm 42, if I look at sexual relationships, of which I've carried on since the age of 14, you know, various people are at various stages of their own sexual development, their own enlightenment, whatever it is.
And I found people, people don't need that.
You know, it's easy to unlock the, and I'm going to put this in your words, in quotes, the hoe type in somebody who's never had that kind of relationship if you connect with them in that way.
And that doesn't mean that that translates to the rest of your relationship.
That just means it's a specific thing.
But equally, it's not necessary.
And it can be developed inside a relationship.
And that's the point I would like to make to you.
And what would you consider a ho phase?
A whole phase appearance, putting yourself in positions, and I'm not going to say in risky positions, men and women both do that.
But putting yourself in positions where you're more likely to have a man come on to you.
And I listened to what you said about alpha and beta males.
And frankly, I think that's something that gets sorted out between males.
Females don't have a part of that.
An alpha male, he literally bears his canines every four years and everyone bows to that.
But ultimately, I think a ho phase is open-mindedness and wanting to go with the flow.
And I think the opposite is a closure of the mind and wanting to go in a specific direction.
I don't think either is bad.
And I think without both, you're not going to be as well-rounded a human being.
I appreciate I've talked for a while.
So how old are you?
42.
The women that you knew that were the biggest hoes, are they married today?
Are they like, where are they now?
Because you've had the perspective of time, right?
Actually, if you ask the question, with the exception of one I won't talk about, if you ask the question, not in as good a place as the ones who didn't.
Really not.
And what I mean by that is, you know, as I mentioned on my previous chat, I'm a developmental psychologist.
So I, you know, when I see people, you don't get to lie to me really very easily.
But yeah, the ones I've seen go through the ho phase, I can still see going through the hoe phase at like age 36 or 38.
And at that point, it does become sad no matter who you are.
So you didn't have, so the majority, do they have, are they just single and alone?
Do they have drug problems, alcohol?
Yeah, the latter actually.
I find that women that go through the, and you say it's the hoe phase, I'll call it for my placeholder, the pleasing men phase.
And when you go through the pleasing men phase for too long, to me, end up alone with a much smaller pool of men to please and a much greater desire to please them.
So the phase that you're talking about can get stronger, tighter, and less lenient over time.
I've known plenty of women go through the whole phase and you know, marry in their late 20s, early 30s, and just forget about it.
You know, it's part of their old life.
But the ones who've kind of stuck with it possibly have an internal belief that if they're more sexually not necessarily promiscuous, but approachable, then that kind of soothes their ego.
But it doesn't seem to match out to the way that they lead their lives.
And I would say that that's probably not the optimal way to lead life.
Well, thank you very much for sharing your experience.
It's a pleasure.
Thank you, Paul.
Thank you.
You have an email in my for me.
Okay, thank you.
We should do a problem.
Oh, I don't know what he was saying.
Add as a speaker.
Hello.
Hello, Pearl.
Hi, what's your name?
Hi, it's Manko Smash.
Mankos?
What's your age and where are you calling from?
Los Angeles and 45.
Okay, cool.
What are your thoughts on the topic?
In LA, I'm sure you have a lot to talk about.
Yeah, and I did, I did my male ho phase in LA over the course of about five years, like 2007 through 2012.
And I've been in a relationship since then.
But, you know, when people talk about ho phase, what they're really talking about is just the carousel.
You can't say like naughty words, right?
You're on stream.
Yeah, I mean, nothing too crazy, but you can swear it's fine.
You know, the kind of carousel is the one with the rooster.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that's basically just what it is.
It's women who are having casual sex who are out of their league for relationships.
They can't get relationships from these men.
So the only way they have access to these men is just by offering these men up casual sex like Costco samples.
They're just throwing it out.
They're just giving it up for free.
And I had a lot of, I had a lot of women that I dated when I was dating.
And then I wanted to understand women better so that I could find like figure out who my perfect woman was.
So I made friends with a lot of the women that I formerly dated and talked to them a lot about dating.
And I knew a lot of women who, some women had done this, like had hoe phases, and most women did not.
And women don't need to do a whole phase to learn not to do a whole phase because the vast majority of women that have any sense, they already intuitively know that it's dumb to just be promiscuous and sleep around.
And they already know that like these particular dudes are never going to offer them commitment.
So why are you wasting your time adding bodies for this?
Do you know what I mean?
So the women that you had your ho phase with, would you say they were like less attractive in terms, would you say that was the dynamic for you guys where you were out of their league?
It really depends because I wasn't like such a giga chad where I was just like talking like I was doing it before Tinder.
Tinder wasn't so big.
When I was meeting up with women, it was through like MySpace and then Plenty of Fish and OK Cupid.
It was during that time frame.
And the vast majority of the women that I slept with, it was because we were in like some sort of a dating relationship.
We weren't just like having them come over and hook up because that did happen on rare occasions.
And yes, any woman who does that, there's going to be a value issue there because no woman who really respects herself is going to act that way with men.
They weren't necessarily ugly, although I would say on average, you're going to be dealing with less attractive women.
But like, for example, in two cases where that did happen, where I was like supposed to date the woman and then she just was like, skip the date.
We just got right to it.
It was because they were rebounding out of, they were mad at their ex-boyfriend.
And this, I was like, I was the one who was their revenge sex.
So outside of that, though, I think guys who do hookups, usually the women are substantially lower quality.
And yes, that's, that's the sacrifice that's being made.
But the vast majority of the time, I was doing it in dating relationships.
And I would usually go like, if the woman was not willing to get physical within like three dates, I would just figure she wasn't interested enough.
But most of the women, you know, we did date and it was through that.
It wasn't just like hookups, if that makes sense.
And did you find that the women, did they want to keep it casual?
I've just heard feedback from guys that like when they're casually dating, a lot of them don't want something serious.
Is that your experience too?
Or did most of them want something serious?
Yeah, no, that's not my experience at all.
I know that's, that's like Nuclear's experience.
I think it depends on the energy that you're putting out there because the best, if you, if you have a very like, if you're giving out a lot of player energy and you have that kind of like baller stuff like with your pictures and whatever else, like that's the persona you're projecting, you're going to attract a lot more women who are looking for casual things.
You're not going to attract women as much that are looking for relationships.
But that's really unusual.
That's like less than 10% of guys.
The vast majority of guys, including me, virtually all women want relationships.
And when I ended up in having like sex friends with women, it was always because we started dating.
They liked me enough.
And then I was like, I don't, I don't want a relationship with this girl.
But instead of ghosting her, if you, if you do it properly, like if you basically reject her in such a way where she doesn't feel bad about it, where you're just like, eh, we just, you know, I don't think our personalities work out, whatever, you, some, whatever excuse.
So she doesn't feel bad about it.
If she likes you enough or she's attracted you enough, sometimes he'll be like, oh, well, can we still hang out though?
And then now you have a sex friend.
But and women, and that's always temporary.
Like the longest I've ever had that last is maybe a year or something like that, because those women, they always ultimately, they want a boyfriend.
You're just keeping the feet warm until they find one.
And when you think about women that you knew that were like the biggest hoes, what happened to them?
There's, it's kind of strange.
There's, so there, there are rare women that are, they have a man mentality when it comes to sex.
Like there's not as very small percentage of women, but there are some women who they're promiscuous the way men are.
Like they just are really into being sexually aggressive and stuff like that.
They usually had pretty unstable relationships because they would cheat on their boyfriends or husbands.
They would eventually get bored and they would eventually cheat, kind of like how you think a man was.
So that would happen on their end.
But then you have the other high body count women.
And there are women who do like a ho phase.
Obviously, it's not ideal for the woman to have a ho phase at all.
But there are some women who they start to do it maybe because they see their friend group, like the women around them are doing it.
And they kind of like women love to follow the pack.
And then they learn very quickly, this is not for me and they stop.
And then they never do it again.
So those women are fine.
They go, they get relationships.
It's totally fine.
But then you have the women who don't learn and they just keep doing it and they get themselves in this cycle where they cope and like all this other stuff.
And it's, it's all bad.
That those women are the ones who end up being a total mess, ending up with high body counts.
They're the women who end up doing stuff like.
You'll have these women where the woman is on her best day of five out of 10 and she will potentially have be able to date a dude who's like a seven out of 10 and she'll look down on him and act like he is trash that is beneath her and reject him because she can go into the nightlife scene and, like a dude who's an eight, will smash her and she thinks that makes him better her better than the dude who's actually a seven,
who's actually like she's super lucky that this guy's willing to date her and I saw that happen too, and that's just a downward spiral.
And then those women end up in their 30s and they don't really have, they don't really have good options.
And did you see those women?
Um, was it more that they would have boyfriends and they would dump them, or would it just be strictly one night stands and they weren't looking for something serious, or were they just aiming too high combination of both, just curious are you talking about?
Are you talking about the last group?
Yeah, the last high body count women who, like their heads got way too big for their bodies and stuff?
Yeah, because women couldn't get.
Yeah, they couldn't get relationships.
They couldn't because they were so hypergamous and they were so looking upward and they were only so they thought like, because they could, they could pull sex from.
There are dudes who are really good looking and they'll have sex with ugly women as long as the women make themselves convenient enough yeah and, and so these women they get into that and then they won't like they can smash dudes that are eight or nine sometimes and then they'll go on a regular date and they'll just be.
They'll just look down on the guy and be not interested, and so they can never get relationships.
Yeah, the best they'll ever get, if they impress one of their sex partners enough, is they get like a situationship where they might lie to themselves and tell themselves they are in a relationship when they're really not so, for example.
One example is there was this woman who she was uh, recently divorced and she ended up dating me because, you know, I I happened to fit her profile at the time because I was lawyer and I had abs and all that kind of stuff, so I was worthy of dating her or whatever.
But she was older, she was in her 30s, she was recently divorced.
She showed me pictures of her before she got divorced.
She was a whale, she was huge, she was super fat, she was Korean.
After she got divorced, shortly after she got divorced, she became like a personal trainer, got super into fitness, had abs, got big fake titties.
Like she went the whole nine yards and completely transformed herself.
And she became a huge hoe.
Well, I like kind of knew her for a while and she was such a mess that I kind of kept in touch with her because these women like this are great for stories and then you learn stories about them and you can tell these stories when you're on dates with other women.
So anyway, she calls me up and we're talking one day and she says she has a boyfriend and she's telling me about her boyfriend.
And she says, you know what bothers me about my boyfriend is I've never had sex with him one-on-one.
And I'm like, wait, what are you talking about?
And she's like, yeah, it's always like three sums or four sums or even five sums.
I've never actually been alone with him for sex.
And I'm like, oh my God.
Wait, you think he's your boyfriend?
And it's, yeah, this was a dude.
And she's like, oh, yeah, he's a partner at a law firm.
He makes half a million dollars a year.
He drives this and that.
It was some like high status dude.
And she basically just joined his harem and she thought she was his boyfriend, his girlfriend.
Wow.
Is she fat again now or is she still thin?
I mean, I haven't talked to her in a long time because I've been in a relationship.
So I don't like, I'm not in that world.
But for the years that I did know her, no, she was always, she was always grinding.
She was always trying to find dudes.
She was like, she stayed in shape.
But I'm sure had she ever found a guy, we already know from her history, she's going to let herself go even if she thinks she could get away with it.
Yeah.
I was wondering because I always say women make some bad decision and then have a gym phase, like slash health phase.
It's either getting, it's either getting fat or trying to clear an STD.
I saw many times women that were recently divorced would massively go into their looks.
Like they would hit the gym.
They would get in really good shape.
They would get really skinny.
They would get plastic surgery, especially a lot of these women getting divorced like in their 30s or maybe 40s.
And, you know, this is LA, obviously, too.
So that maybe plays a role.
And there were, I met a number of women that were like this.
Like they were not attractive when they were married.
They let things downward spiral because obviously like the woman will stop putting in the effort to look good in the marriage.
The man will crack the whip on her and he'll let it happen.
And then he'll just stop putting in effort too.
So then the marriage falls apart and she's the one who started it, but she doesn't see it that way.
And then she blows up the marriage and then she leaves and she's like, oh, I need to get hot again to attract another man.
And then they go into massive hoe phases and they actually can get super hot like some of these girls that I saw, but you know, they're only doing it because they're trying to reach an objective, which is to get another commitment.
And then as soon as they get secure again, they're going to just let themselves go again because that's who they really are.
Yeah.
Well, trying to yeah, last thing is trying to roll the dice again.
Like it's easy to do when you're 20 to 25.
But when you're like 38 and you think you're going to do that again, like the results are not going to be as good as they used to be.
Yeah.
Very few pull it off.
I cover the women that do sometimes.
It's actually kind of interesting.
Like that 42-year-old woman that just married the owner.
She had to go to 70, though.
He was like 70 something.
Yeah, that does tend to.
And here's the thing is that, and this is like why they were dating me, right?
Yeah.
I was in my late 20s when I was dating these chicks.
Like they weren't trying to get dudes in their 50s.
They wanted like the young hot stud guy.
And they're like, oh, but you also have to have like a high status career and you also have to have money and all these other things.
Like that's what they were going for, which is just wildly unrealistic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, thank you very much for telling me your experiences.
I find them really interesting.
So I appreciate you calling in.
Thanks for having me on girl.
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Okay.
No, who's next?
The all right.
We got Tyler.
I think I'm going to do any women asking to come up.
I don't see any women.
I just want to do Tyler out as a speaker.
Hi, Tyler.
Hello.
Got to unmute your mic.
Hey, Pearl, thanks for having me.
First off, how old are you?
And what part of the country are you in?
32.
I live in Texas.
Okay.
What part?
Dallas, Houston?
I just left Austin.
Right on the outskirts of San Antonio now.
I've heard Austin's a great place to date for men.
Was that your experience?
Depends what you're looking for.
I think there's a higher, there's this guy I follow on Twitter, Playboy something, and he seems to think Austin's in the top five.
Depends what you're looking for, I think.
You know, it's a blue city.
So it's a lot of liberal women.
Oh, my God.
It's going back into.
So what is your thought on the topic?
Do you think women need to have a ho phase?
have you dated women in their whole phase you know i think we're trying to like put a name on something that can't necessarily be quantified Like, like the ho phase is, is it really a, it's a genuine question.
I don't know.
But is it really like a ho phase where they're just kind of on an adventure or is it kind of coke that you know they're trying to be cool, like kind of whole co-culture, if you will.
What they're really trying to do is get a man.
And I think they just out outpriced themselves in the market.
You know, that makes sense.
Yeah, but I'm asking, you know, specifically women will talk about their ho phase.
They describe this on TikTok where they have, you know, a bunch of men that they're talking to.
You know, they try to date like men.
Yeah.
Have a rotation of, you know, this is, they talk about it openly on Call Her Daddy.
And the girl from Call Her Daddy just got married.
I'm not saying it'll last, but I more just want to know, like, what happened to the women you know that have that had ho phases?
Were they long?
Did you date them?
I'm just curious, your personal stories.
Yeah, I'm happy to get personal.
In terms of like whole phase, like I don't know that any of the women, what do you call a whole phase?
You know, I've had five, I've had five term long-term relationships, and basically, all five of them, they decided to end the relationship.
All five of them came, you know, in some form of attempted coming back, you know, getting back into my law, being in a relationship.
So, when they left, was that a whole phase?
Sure.
You know, have I dated women that are in a whole phase?
Well, yeah, I mean, I've gone downtown and went home with some 304 a couple, you know, back in the day when I was still doing that.
You know, yeah, you just, you know, they might even ask the question, hey, is this like a short-term thing?
Is this like you just take, are we just having fun or what's going on?
You can just like not answer the question to some of them, and they still tag along.
So I don't really know how to answer that question.
Like, they're all in a whole phase until they find somebody that they think is the best they can get.
Virtually all in other phase.
And did you find that the women that did extreme whole phases, do you, did any get married now?
Did any, I don't, like the women you knew in high school, college, that maybe were known for sleeping around, did they, are they married today?
Are they still single?
What happened to them?
Yeah, okay.
So, well, one of them that I would, this is mostly a small town, high school, small town Texas, high school in Texas, but you know, one just sent me a Facebook request two two to four weeks ago.
She was probably one of the hoes of the high school.
And, you know, when I look at her Facebook now, I'm like, oh my God.
I remember being in high school and thinking like she was cute and hot or whatever, but now she's just completely felling apart.
You know, she's 35 or something.
It does break my heart when you mention that.
You know, they just go through a whole phase and then find some poor simp that thinks that she actually loves them, but who doesn't?
The highest caliber man she could get was at 24.
You're just, you could never live up to it.
And so they did get married.
That's interesting.
They did.
Yeah, I don't think that's an issue for women.
I think all that's going to happen is if they don't get with what they perceive as a high caliber man when they're young, they turn 28, 30, hit the wall or whatever.
And then they, they, it depends on their culture and where they're from, but they can definitely settle down with somebody.
That's just how the marketplace is for women.
I mean, we see it all the time with Logan Paul's chick or whatever.
Yeah.
You know, she's fucking all these guys.
Yeah.
It's like, what?
Like, what do you even have?
Like, you're Logan Paul.
You're like, a million followers.
You can get a virgin girl that like actually, you know.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Okay.
Okay.
Well, thank you very much for calling in.
You bet.
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I okay, wait, wait.
I see lots of single mothers at my gym.
Fitness is definitely a thing.
Yeah, fitness phase always comes after some poor life decision.
So it's either an STD, they're trying to heal naturally, overweight, or divorce.
It's never like a good life decision.
And then I got into the gym.
It's not necessarily good or bad, you know.
I mean, a lot of men go to the gym because of a heartbreak.
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