April 20, 2026 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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Camp of the Saints: Grassroots Key to Mass Deportations, A Home For Every Child & CCP Organ Harvesting
Jack Posobiec anchors Human Events Daily, addressing the Camp of the Saints controversy and advocating for grassroots mass deportations via banking restrictions and self-deportation strategies. Commander Gregory Bovino details interior enforcement tactics, while Yanya Kellek alleges CCP organ harvesting for elite immortality. The episode concludes with HHS official Alex Adams promoting the "A Home for Every Child" initiative to recruit faith-based foster families by removing pronoun training barriers, framing these efforts as essential responses to modern geopolitical and social crises. [Automatically generated summary]
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The Banned Book Controversy00:03:36
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
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Today is April 20th, 2026.
Anno Domini.
Did Amazon just ban the anti migrant book, Camp of the Saints?
So, Camp of the Saints, if you don't know what it is, it is a novel, a fictional novel that was written in 1973.
And it tells the story of what happens when it starts in France, starts in Belgium, when Europe Is overtaken, swamped, if you will, by masses of migrants from the third world, and they take over the entire continent of Europe.
And of course, we've seen this in France.
We've seen this in Ireland recently with my brother.
We've seen this in all over Italy, UK.
We've seen it all over Western, at least Western Europe, not Eastern Europe yet, but Western Europe for sure.
To fruition.
And it talks about how a confluence of supporters of mass liberalism, supporters of migrants, do gooders, the people who want to make the world a better place, encourage this migration.
But then a massive flotilla shows up and they overwhelm the shores, they overwhelm everything.
Their people take over the government and the government starts ordering.
More migration into the country.
I mean, this is all just fictional.
I mean, I couldn't imagine anyone possibly thinking that this could ever come true.
I mean, this was written back in 1973, Jean Raspail.
So, Amazon apparently, and we've got this statement out now, is having trouble, or people who are going on Amazon are having trouble getting it.
I want to say, by the way, the left loves to talk about book bans.
But the books that the left talks about in terms of their book bans are never actually banned books.
If you can go into Barnes and Noble and buy a book off the shelf, then it is not a banned book.
If you can go and get a book in your local library, it is not a banned book.
No, this is a banned book.
Camp of the Saints is a banned book.
So let's dig into what we are being told by the current publisher.
Which is Vauban Books.
And it says Amazon has removed Camp of the Saints, citing, quote, offensive content.
And now, French, by the way, French newspapers and others have been going after it for weeks, claiming that it is a, you know, this is the book of the new right.
This book is inflaming the new right, et cetera, et cetera.
But if that's true, by the way, then shouldn't it be available for everyone to read, to understand what's going on, whether you agree or disagree?
Isn't that what a free society has?
What is this idea that just because you read a book, it changes you and it changes everything that you believe?
You can't read books anymore.
Who are the type of people that say you can't read books?
Well, right now we're being told that the paperback version of this is down.
It's up for Kindle and it's up for audiobooks still, but the paperback version of Camp of the Saints taken down on Amazon.
Pure Water for Families Now00:02:20
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Self Deportation Strategies Explained00:15:52
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And speaking of cleaning up things, a man who knows how to clean up the mean streets joins us now.
Ladies and gentlemen, Commander Gregory Bovino joins us now.
Commander, how are you?
Jack, I'm doing good.
It's good to see you.
And thanks for having me.
Well, it's always great to see you, sir.
And, you know, so I was reading, as I always do, the New York Times, my favorite newspaper.
But there was an interesting piece in the New York Times recently talking about the Executive Office for Immigration Review and saw that, you know, it had been pushed out, but also talked about, and what was really interesting, What they talked about in here was how it is that so many illegal aliens in our country are, are, hiding very well.
Actually, it turns out they're they're hidden very well in the system.
They're using these itin's, they're using SSNS social security numbers that they are so embedded in there that actually, if you that the court system works once you find them and get them there, but actually the really most effective way to go and to go and roll them up is exactly what you were doing.
It talks about city patrol, talked about area control, talked about roving patrol, and I said, wait a minute, isn't this exactly what the commander was doing?
Well, Jack, exactly.
And that's been something that the Border Patrol's done interior enforcement wise for over 100 years.
So, if you look back in the 50s at the Eisenhower administration, as well as some of the other administrations that really took that interior operation seriously, the removal of illegal aliens from the interior, that's it.
That general immigration enforcement, I call it total spectrum immigration enforcement.
And that means everything.
Everything's on the table, whether it's rolling up to a Home Depot or targeted enforcement.
Everything all at the same time.
And we need to roll these illegal aliens up so we can, as you say, get them into the system.
Get them into the system.
We can remove them.
And we can remove them in large numbers.
And one other thing, Jack, is that general immigration enforcement, that total spectrum enforcement.
What that also does is it highly encourages illegal aliens that perhaps we don't arrest to self deport.
And that's really the crux of the issue is that self deportation.
If we can have them self deport, Jack.
It's a lot cheaper, it's a lot easier, and it's very effective.
Well, you know, it's interesting.
I was tweeting about that as well, and it's something that I've raised with the administration a number of times because I saw Secretary Mullins was on some interview, and he was talking about the cost of deportations.
And so actually, maybe you could walk us through that.
What is the cost of a single deportation when it's from the government side pushing versus when a single individual decides to self-deport?
Sure.
I know that Mullen had, I believe that was approximately $8,500, was his figure.
Yeah, I think it was.
It's also the cost of what happens if we don't deport those illegal aliens.
What's the cost of the taxpayer over the next 5, 10, 15, 20, 30 years?
It's way more than that.
But the cost itself, in regards to self deportations, as opposed to the government deporting, self deportations, we were offering $2,500 and a free plane ticket.
So let's say $3,500 for an illegal alien to self deport.
It's a pretty good deal.
It's fast, it's easy, and in the grand scheme of things, it's pretty cheap.
When the government deports, it's going to be a little more expensive, but that also depends on that mechanism of deportation.
Is the illegal alien going to be pushed back across the border, say, to Mexico?
Or does Mexico have a third country agreement where we could put, say, someone from Honduras or El Salvador into Mexico?
Much cheaper.
If they have to be flown halfway across the world, say back to Somalia or China or somewhere, it's definitely going to be more expensive.
But self deportations, that's where it's at.
A lot cheaper, a lot more effective.
And so you see this when you say self deportations, some of the ways that myself and others have called for, and walk me through if my thinking is correct on this you look at the banking system, you try to find which ones of them are accessing banking.
Or debit cards.
You look at their ability to rent.
You look at their ability to possibly even own property.
I know driver's licenses and CDLs is something that our Secretary of Transportation has been looking at.
We're actually going to be speaking to him very shortly.
And so it's all of those sort of quality of life and course of life, pattern of life type inputs where you can go in and say, we can't have you accessing our system.
If they can't access the system, then boom, they're going to go back.
And the The biggest one of all of those, of course, which we've called for here for years, is a massive tax on remittances.
Spot on, Jack.
Exactly.
It's everything.
You said the word everything.
I think we fail to do that sometimes.
We look at maybe one of those tactics as the panacea for self deportations, but it's not.
It's everything.
It's that total spectrum immigration enforcement.
Let's make it so hard for them to live, to work, to recreate, to do anything in the United States that they have no choice but to self deport.
And that's what we were doing in some of those large cities.
Look at Los Angeles.
Before we left Los Angeles a few months back, it was locked down.
The fashion district there in downtown Los Angeles completely locked down.
The illegal alien businesses, the businesses ran by illegal aliens, the businesses that were inhabited by illegal aliens completely shut down.
And we started to see those self deportations rise because if you can't make a living and you can't move and work freely, then what other choice do you have?
And doing that nationwide, as you say, Whether it's looking at the banking system, taxes on remittances, there's a whole host, a whole host of things that we can do to lock them down and encourage them to self deport.
And so we look at this, and this has to be, and I'm just going to say it.
One of the things, the big pushbacks we get here when it comes to e verify and other systems is the employers in this country, isn't it?
It is.
It is.
And a lot of those employers say it's impossible for them.
To say use an e verify or to get those documents needed for an illegal alien to actually work, but you know, that's not true.
Look at the border, Jack.
Look right here in El Centro, the Imperial Valley.
All those farmers that utilize that migrant labor don't seem to have a problem getting documents or using those systems that are in place now for those migrant workers to work the farms here in the Imperial Valley.
I think it's the farmers in the interior just aren't used to it, they don't want to be used to it.
And rather than do it the right way, they just hire illegal labor.
And, and right.
And, and we can all sit there and say, oh my gosh, you know, that's terrible.
But you know what, though?
I bet you every single one of us knows someone in our lives who runs, whether it's a small firm or small contract, whatever it is, whatever it is, where they are, where they're living large, they're living high on the hog, and we know what they're doing.
We know it's because they're cutting corners and hiring illegals.
You know, you're right.
And one of the things with hiring illegal aliens is do they pass the savings on?
To the consumer, whether it's a farmer, a construction firm, is the savings passed on to the consumer?
Well, you know, my housing cost to build a house or buy a house hasn't gotten cheaper.
Nothing gets cheaper, but they've got that almost slave labor, but they're not passing the savings on to you or me.
So that's a fallacy that they actually need those illegal aliens to just get by.
That's not true.
We were getting by just fine.
Before this massive influx of illegal aliens infected our nation.
That's exactly right.
We're on with Commander Gregory Bovino.
He recently, until recently, was serving until his retirement, served as the commander at large for CBP, Customs and Border Patrol.
He's on with us walking through the mechanisms of mass deportations, how the system works, and how, hopefully, with the new secretary, we can get it to work even better and increase those mass deportations.
Right back, Human Events Daily, Jack Posobick, Real America's Voice.
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All right, folks, Jack Prasovic, we're back live here, Human Events Daily, Real America's Voice.
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All right, we're on with Secretary, excuse me, gosh, with Commander Greg Bovino.
Commander Bovino, I'm Freudian slip here.
I must be promoting you while we're on the program.
Hey, thanks, Jack.
I appreciate the introduction there.
That's awesome.
No, yeah, no problem.
And so, no, I was about to ask you're so we have, you know, we have Secretary Tim Mullen there.
We got the new, we got, you know, some new folks in place over at the department.
What would be, when, you know, when you're looking at the top priorities for the department, for DHS, what would you say the top three things or so, whatever top things you could think of for really escalating these mass deportations?
So we talked about self deport.
What else would you focus on?
Sure.
Well, Secretary Mullen's probably drinking through a fire hose right now.
That immigration problem's definitely complex.
It's, it's massive.
Uh, my estimates, a hundred million illegal aliens here in the United States and how we're going to get rid of that.
So first off is a workable strategy.
You know, we just talked about some tactics that could be used, whether it was going after the, the finances, remittances, social security numbers.
We have to be very careful not to use any one tactic.
As the answer, because any one tactic, whether it's say work site enforcement, I've heard that one bannered about by Secretary Mullen and I believe Tom Holman.
That's fantastic.
We do need to do work site enforcement, but that alone won't solve it.
So it's got to be that total spectrum.
Everything goes.
They've got to bring all that in one strategy.
And that strategy has to be a workable strategy that the very baseline border patrol agent or ICE officer understands.
They have to understand that at the very lowest levels, the ones out on the street.
Actually, putting handcuffs on illegal aliens.
So there's number one.
Number two is time is of the essence.
There's an awfully lot of illegal aliens here in the United States.
And, you know, Americans sometimes we're impatient.
Let's be impatient about this.
It's time to be, it's actually time to be impatient and start deporting illegal aliens because there's a whole lot of them that need deporting.
And then finally is the grassroots.
And I speak about this a lot the grassroots is so very important.
If we look at, say, Carl von Clausewitz, the father of modern strategy, and Jack, you probably studied him during your time in naval intelligence.
Very much so.
Very much so.
Total war.
Total, yes.
So, one of the things that Clausewitz said the best way, or one of the most effective ways, I should say, to counter a grassroots movement is by another grassroots movement.
So, what about American citizens?
When are we going to bring American citizens into the fight?
Patriots like you, me, And millions of other Americans that are on the sidelines wondering what the hell's going on right now?
What is going on right now?
Why aren't we mass deporting?
Take the ice tip line.
That ice tip line has never worked.
It's not been utilized the way it could and should be.
Well, since there was an ice tip line.
What about millions of Americans with calls for service on the ice tip line that gets those immigration officers, those border patrol agents, and those ice officers where they need to be?
And that being where the illegal aliens are.
Ice tip line, fantastic way to do that.
So I'd highly recommend utilizing that ice tip line and putting that in the hands of Americans and weaponizing the ice tip line so we can get our hands on even more illegal aliens.
And then, as we talked about earlier in the segment, is creating the mechanism for self deportation, creating a good reason for self deportation.
So, grassroots beats grassroots.
And I love this idea.
So you're utilizing the patriots.
And by the way, what do we always hear?
We always hear the grassroots on the other side of ICE.
They say we're First Amendment advisors or First Amendment auditors and all this.
We're First Amendment supporters.
Well, guess what?
The First Amendment works both ways.
The First Amendment means, hey, we're just out here in the street.
We're just out here in the street documenting.
We're just out here in the street figuring things out.
And so if you're talking about the First Amendment, well, guess what?
You do have a First Amendment right to report.
You do have a First Amendment right to film.
You do have a First Amendment right to make those reports to the federal government.
If you feel that it, you know, that's more than just the First Amendment, but you have a right as an American citizen to make those reports to the federal government.
So, what's really stopping this, you know, the ability of citizens to form, I don't know, perhaps some kind of 50 state organization where they're focused directly on this, Commander Bovino?
Sure.
Cultivating Beliefs Under Fire00:12:05
It's information, it's the informational part of the strategy.
And one of the interesting things is.
When the Border Patrol, when we were in those cities nationwide, that was part of our strategy.
Part of the strategy that we were implementing more and more each day is this giant workable strategy that brings in all components, including the grassroots, including Mom Pa America.
I always called him Mom Pa America and bringing them into this strategy.
So it's informational.
Can you call the ICE tip line and somebody actually answer the phone?
Once they know that that that can actually occur and that that would occur and that someone would actually answer the phone and then Act upon the information given, you're ahead of the game right there.
We started that in Charlotte, North Carolina.
We started taking tips on social media.
And remember, it doesn't have to be a nice tip line, an actual telephone.
It can be social media.
There's many, many ways to get that done, Jack.
But in Charlotte, we started taking tips on social media.
And just in the five days we were in Charlotte, Operation Charlotte's Web, we started knocking down all kinds of illegal aliens based on citizens' tips that came in on the various social media platforms.
This is incredible.
Commander Bovino, where can people follow you?
Oh, they can follow me on X. That's Gregory.K. Bovino, or Gregory K. Bovino.
They're on X. All right.
God bless.
Commander Bovino, give him a follow, folks.
It sounds like he's got an idea, perhaps, for a new organization.
Right back.
Human Avenue continues.
Jack, where's Jack?
Where is he?
Jack, I want to see you.
Great job, Jack.
Thank you.
What a job you do.
You know, we have an incredible thing.
We're always talking about the fake news and the bad, but we have guys, and these are the guys who should be getting politicians.
All right, folks, Jack Basobic back live here, Human Events Daily.
Now, of course, we talk about China a lot on this program.
We know that President Trump is going to be flying to China for a huge sit down meeting with Xi Jinping, the chairman of the CCP, in just a couple of weeks now, about three weeks' time.
But a new book that's just come out on the CCP and the organ harvesting at an industrial scale has just come out by my good friend, Yanya Kellek, from the Epoch Times, Killed the Order.
And I wanted to get him on here to really walk us through this and hopefully see if this gets some attention.
At least on the sidelines, or possibly even brought up directly by the president.
Jan, how are you?
I'm fantastic, Jack.
I mean, the timing is unbelievable, frankly.
No, it really is.
So, walk us through this.
People have heard the organ harvesting.
They hear it.
The phrase, it's something, though, I think it's so beyond what people think is even possible.
Tell us how this system works and how it got started in China.
So, there's a few pieces.
Let me lay it out.
So, this is kind of a next.
Level type of organ trafficking that is, as you point out, unimaginable.
I've been working on it for the last 20 years.
And at the beginning, you know, I would talk about it with people.
People would just kind of clue out in the middle of conversations because they just literally couldn't handle it.
We're talking about a situation where we have a state actor doing it.
This isn't black market, this is at least gray market or something like that.
The Chinese Communist Party.
We have a situation where they're able to push mass propaganda through a population, which is really important, dehumanizing propaganda.
And they're also able to incarcerate massive amounts of people.
And they've done this repeatedly throughout history.
So they have this history of basically creating black classes.
The first black class was landowners.
They wanted to basically take people's land.
So they had to kind of convince the population that was okay.
So they pushed mass propaganda saying these people are dangerous, they're pariahs, you should fear them.
And actually, it's okay to hurt them.
Right.
And so that way they took the land.
And if people die, people die.
Right.
And so they've had this series of black classes.
And back in 1999, they created a new black class, which was Falun Gong practitioners.
And this was a spiritual discipline truthfulness, compassion, tolerance.
This is what people were actually doing, right?
And what happened was, as they created the black class, as they decided that these 70 to 100 million people were going to become illegal, they pushed this mass dehumanizing propaganda into the system.
And what happened was that these people resisted.
So they wouldn't allow themselves to get brainwashed.
They wouldn't, when they were struggled against, they said, no, I'm not going to give up what I believe.
And so they incarcerated a massive group of them.
And this was a critical part of how you get killed to order.
So, the second part is that you have to actually be able to understand how it is that in a normal organ harvesting situation, for example, in America, right?
Someone has a catastrophic accident.
Let's say I need a new heart, right?
Someone needs to basically have a car accident or a motorcycle accident.
And then an ethics team has to decide that it's okay to harvest from them.
We don't want to harvest from someone who has a chance to live.
And then blood type, tissue type, and the size kind of has to match as well.
Our bodies reject things that are foreign, including organs.
That's why we do this kind of matching.
Well, there was actually a whistleblower, a man named Jacob of the heart transplant surgeon who had a patient.
This was back in 2005, who basically told him, I can go to China.
I'm going to China in two weeks and I'm getting my new heart.
And Jacob just absolutely couldn't believe it because there's a huge red flag here, right?
Number one, we're seeing that someone is actually, that scheduled accident is happening.
Like someone's actually scheduling the catastrophic accident.
So the person basically is being killed.
That's red flag number one.
Number two is how do you get this two week time period?
Well, these Falun Gong practitioners that they had in the system, I mean, we don't know whether it was a million or two million.
The State Department said that half of the people, this was in 2005, were all Falun Gong practitioners in their massive incarceration system.
They started blood typing, tissue typing, and organ scanning them ahead of time.
And then when this person comes in, they pay their 100 or 200 grand to get their new heart.
Okay.
And that person, because they can get that in two weeks, because that person is already pre matched to them.
Okay.
Ready to be killed to order.
And that's why my book is called Killed to Order.
So, this is something that's really kind of beyond the beyond and was very difficult for years for people to even grasp.
So, and this is what we're talking about because you're dealing with numbers that are so big here that they're matching it person to person.
And then if they need something, they just say, hey, we're going to go to some prisoner.
And by the way, this isn't a practice that started with the Falun Gong.
They originally did this for political prisoners during the Cultural Revolution, if I remember correctly.
Well, exactly.
So there's small amounts of this happening up until about 2000.
It's the scale.
The Falun Gong practitioners brought the scale.
Right, right, right, right.
I just mean the general idea.
Oh, no, 100%.
In fact, I think in 98, there was congressional testimony about prisoners being killed for organs.
You're absolutely right.
Just basically, the unusual situation was simply that, you know, I think some very evil person, and I theorize in the book about who this is, I think I make a good case.
Basically, they thought to themselves, hey, in this kind of totally amoral, right?
No moral boundary system the CCP has, that I can actually have kind of a win win, right?
On the one hand, I can get rid of the Falun Gong, the dictator at the same time said eradicate them, right?
And if they die, they die.
And we can also make a lot of money and then provide organs to the super elites.
And if you remember, there was this hot mic moment back in last September Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, and Vladimir Putin.
Exactly.
Talking in Tiananmen Square, they started talking about organ harvesting.
Putin basically says to Xi, through continual organ transplantation, maybe even we can achieve immortality.
And that speaks to the third win.
I hate to call it a win because it's a horror show, but basically it's unlimited organs for the super elites in China, basically in perpetuity.
So the moment that this system was created, we see it just kind of grow geometrically from the year 2000 to 2005, just massive growth, more than between 100 and 200 hospitals created just to do this.
And this, and I want people to understand too that when you're talking about, you know, these people, you know, the Falun Gong, they're not being arrested for, you know, in many cases, or any case really.
They're not violent people.
These aren't people that attack anyone or anything like this.
They're not people who are committing abuse.
They're people who are locked up for their beliefs.
It's 100%.
And this is, you know, I've spent years kind of trying to really understand why they ultimately attack the Falun Gong like this.
Some people say it was bigger than the Communist Party, 70 to 100 million people.
That seems like a reasonable reason.
I've also heard that Jiang Zemin was very jealous of the founder of Falun Gong, Li Hongzhe.
Li Hongzhe had the love of the people.
Jiang could never have it, right?
He was the dictator.
But the other part is something really unusual about Falun Gong.
It's like, so it has a lot of teachings, but there aren't a lot of rules.
And the rules are like, there's no hierarchy in it, there's no collection of money, there's no worship of the teacher.
It's very, very bottom up, very grassroots.
And in a way, I think this is the thing that made the Communist Party so afraid because they're very top down.
And you know this better than anyone, Jack.
They basically like to keep the control all the way from the top through every institution.
And here you had something that really wasn't very easy to control.
And they saw that, especially when they started persecuting them.
And these people resisted to being struggled against.
So I think ultimately that's the reason.
It's basically it kind of provokes agency or free thought or something like that.
That's my view.
And something that just kind of explained to folks that Falun Gong, it starts with so Tai Chi, which people know in the US, and it's not Tai Chi, but it has a similarity just so people could understand in Chinese Qigong.
So that Gong, the system of movement, is related to this system of spiritual beliefs and exercises.
I mean, I know I'm butchering this, but just so people can understand, it's almost like going after people for practicing yoga.
Well, yeah.
Absolutely.
And so, in these traditional Chinese methods, right, people would have all these components kind of in one system.
So, there's this physical component, like you mentioned, there's this kind of education or mental component, and there's also a spiritual component.
And people are kind of cultivating all of that at once.
And so, right.
And so, if you go to certain yoga outlets, that's similar to what they push.
And so, obviously, it's not that, but I'm just saying that they're criminalizing people.
For doing something like this, which doesn't hurt anyone.
And that's the point.
100%.
And I really think that.
Well, excuse me, it doesn't hurt anyone other than the CCP because what does it do?
It preaches about a higher power.
And under the CCP system, they don't want anyone to be higher than the CCP and certainly not anyone who they view as a potential threat to them because of its size.
Jan, I could go off on this for hours, as you know.
Tell people the book again and where they can get it.
Well, the book is called.
Kill to Order.
You can actually get it at killtoorder.com.
I'm encouraging people to get it.
And the second part of the book is, in a way, the most important part, which is the true nature of America's biggest adversary.
And I think us getting this wrong for so many decades has really cost us a lot of blood and treasure.
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And you mentioned the president's visit.
I think that message, that information is, I think, critical for us to be able to get the deal.
Would you want the president to bring this up to Xi Jinping?
100%.
Who would want to have this on their legacy?
Who would want this on their record?
Yanya Kallik, Epoch Times.
Go give him a follow, folks, and check out the book.
Right back.
So, we're going to call this the Jack Posobic Appreciation Hour.
I can say confidently, I believe, I think Josh Shapiro would be the vice presidential nominee if it wasn't for Jack Posobic.
And that is, I'll be honest.
All right, Jack Posobic, very excited to be back here, Human Events Daily, because I want to talk about a subject that I really wanted to get to last week.
And we did a bunch of time at the White House, and that just sort of ate up our schedule.
And there were other things, of course, to take down a congressman.
So, you know that.
Wasn't a complete departure, but something the First Lady was talking about was the importance of foster care and working to foster our foster care system and to provide for better, really just better attention to that system and work to fix some of the gaps that have been in there.
And really excited to have on here, we've got Alex Adams from the Department of Health and Human Services from HHS to talk to us about.
The new program, A Home for Every Child.
Alex, how are you?
I'm doing well.
Thanks for having me.
So, talk to us about this new program.
We've got the first lady out there talking about it.
I love, you know, from the perspective of a pro lifer, you know, I'm a Catholic, that, you know, we talk about, you know, stop abortion, and that's big in our community and in our audience.
But at the same time, I think that sometimes we perhaps can be a bit lax about, you know, spending the same amount of time and energy for kids after they're born.
Who may have to go into the system for one reason or another, but never, by the way, through fault of their own.
So, talk to us about the new program and the spotlight that the First Lady is putting on it.
Well said.
Well, first, President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump have been incredible champions for improvement in the foster care system.
Last November, they issued an executive order called Fostering the Future, which set up a whole of government approach to improving foster care.
In so doing, President Trump has been clear the best foster care system is one that is not needed.
The best thing we can do is wrap around families, support families, prevent the conditions in which families unravel.
But prevention is not possible in all cases.
There is serious abuse, there's serious neglect, and in some cases, it is in the best interest of the child that they be removed from their family.
And when that happens, in those rare instances in which that is in the child's best interest, we need safe, loving, nurturing foster homes to take care of them.
Right now, we have too few foster homes nationally.
If we have 100 foster kids coming into the system, We only have 57 homes to care for them.
So, what happens to the remainder?
Too often they end up in non traditional settings, government offices, they end up in hotels or Airbnbs, things that are just not conducive to the stable, loving environment that many of your listeners were fortunate to grow up with.
So, what we're trying to do is we're trying to increase the number of foster homes nationally relative to the number of foster kids.
And we're structuring our policies and practices around that.
By looking at it as a ratio, it gives us two ways to rectify that.
First, we can shrink the number of kids coming into foster care through effective prevention.
That's our most important strategy.
But when prevention is not possible, we are trying to recruit and retain more foster families.
And the target rich environment is families of faith, families with sincerely held religious beliefs and moral convictions.
Well, and it's amazing that you look at the statistics and you find that the families that create the best environments typically are those that have faith at their core, isn't it?
Certainly, if every house of worship in the country had just one family who was fostering, our ratio of homes to kids would be four to one, and we would have homes waiting on kids instead of kids waiting on homes.
One of the challenges has been that too many states, and unfortunately, the previous administration put in place policies.
That essentially told families of faith, you need not apply.
You know, certain states have required training on the use of pronouns.
They've required families as a condition of licensure to attest that they would commit to gender transitioning procedures and things like that.
And there it is.
And what that has done is it's created discomfort from people who are willing to open their home and their heart to a foster child.
It's deterred them from stepping forward because they worry that the government might put them in a position.
To violate their sincerely held religious beliefs or moral convictions.
What this administration has said is we have too few foster homes.
I've never talked to a state that said, you know, my biggest problem is I have too many homes.
In fact, we need to recruit more.
As I said, we have 50 cent homes for every 100 kids.
So the message that we send to the faith community is going to be really important in helping us achieve that goal.
And this is incredible.
So you've gone from the previous administration that was actually.
Uh, you know, I would just say, not persecuting, but just, you know, holding families of faith and people of faith's convictions and their beliefs against them to expunge them from programs like this or to oppose them from being granting entry to these types of programs.
They're actually realizing that, hey, wait a minute, what's in the best interest of the child?
What's in the best interest of the system?
And I'm sorry, but you just said this that they some of the kids they end up in hotels or Airbnbs, like it's like.
You know, when they have the minor flying on the plane and they got the, you know, the, the, you know, the flight attendant is taking, you know, looking after him.
I mean, that's just, it's just, and I've got two little kids.
I mean, that's just, it's not right.
It's not right.
It's not going to work.
It's heartbreaking.
And our initiative is designed to refocus the system.
What's been most exciting to me is states all across this great land are responding to the president and first lady's call.
What we did is when we rolled out the Home for Every Child campaign, we gave states a chance to negotiate a program improvement plan with us.
We will get out of the way.
We'll cut red tape.
We'll stop making their caseworkers fill out mountains of paperwork.
But in exchange, those states will report to us monthly their ratio of homes to kids.
We will get more actionable data.
We'll see what's working, what's not working, and then structure our education and our technical assistance around that.
15 states have already answered that call.
This campaign's only been live for 100 days, but we already have 15 states who have stepped forward.
A lot of southern states, Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Tennessee.
But we've seen bipartisan response.
District of Columbia has joined, Delaware has joined, state of Maryland has joined.
So, certainly doing right by kids is not a partisan issue.
And I've never seen a child welfare initiative catch wildfire like this.
And that really speaks to the leadership and the vision that President and First Lady Melania Trump have elevated nationally around this topic.
I mean, my goodness, you know, I think about this, and again, I say as a Catholic, I mean, this used to be something where churches really led the way on.
And it's been because of the state.
It's because of states and the federal government fighting churches and going after churches for these programs that they said, oh, we can do a better job, and you guys are terrible at it.
And then they come in and can't do a better job at all.
In fact, in many cases, it's worse.
So why not work together?
It just seems to me it makes so much more sense.
Yeah, well, certainly in the executive order that I mentioned, fostering the future, one of the major planks is engaging the faith based community.
I know the White House faith office has engaged in a lot of conversations.
HHS, where I work, has a faith office that we're having active conversations on around how do we authentically engage with the faith based community.
I already gave the stat.
If every house of worship in the country had just one member of their body sign up as a foster family, our ratio would be four to one.
So I think we can do better.
I think we must do better.
We must do right by these kids.
So, we're trying to achieve a home for every child.
We've been excited by the momentum today to 15 states joining us.
I'd be remiss if I didn't extend the call to all other states to join us in increasing the ratio of homes to kids.
And I know through the conversations that we've had that we're going to have some other states join us in a very short order.
Is there a site or a, you know, one landing place where people can go if they do want to get more information about this?
Well, certainly the Administration for Children and Families, which I run, has a website built around a home for every child.
But ultimately, to sign up to be a foster parent, it is through your state child welfare agency.
So each individual would have to go to their state child welfare agency to see the application process.
We are trying to make applications easier nationwide.
We are trying to work with states to cut some of the red tape and make it as easy as possible because when you have a shortage of foster homes and the alternative is kids sleeping in hotels or Airbnbs, you can roll out the red carpet.
We need to make it as easy as possible to wrap around these families willing to step forward.
Oh, absolutely.
And especially in so many couples experiencing infertility, it just makes sense.
Alex Adams, thank you so much for joining us here.
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