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March 23, 2026 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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Dialogue at the Gates: Jack Posobiec Face to Face with Un F* America

Jack Posobiec and UNF America representatives dissect the Iran conflict, noting 85% of Iranian missile sites destroyed while debating Trump's mental acuity and January 6th claims. They critique Newsom's media resilience, question Mullin's DHS qualifications, and discuss the Epstein files involving Trump. Ultimately, the dialogue challenges mainstream narratives on free speech, election integrity, and administrative competence within the current political landscape. [Automatically generated summary]

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Christ is king.
Hours-long wait times at airports across the country tonight.
It was four hours to get to the plane.
You cannot be fearing.
Line stretching all the way to the parking garage in New Orleans.
A similar scene in New York City and Philadelphia.
It's why President Trump says that on Monday, ICE agents will be going to airports to help TSA workers who've gone without full paycheck since February.
We begin with breaking news: two people are dead after a passenger jet collided with a fire truck on a runway at New York's LaGuardia airport.
Crash happened late Sunday night as an Air Canada Express flight, the one you see right there, arrived from Montreal.
Authorities say the plane struck a Port Authority rescue and firefighting vehicle that was responding to a separate incident.
The pilot and co-pilot on the Air Canada plane were killed.
Several passengers were injured, and two people inside the fire truck were also hurt.
Trump posting to Truth Social just moments ago: quote, I am pleased to report that the U.S. and Iran have had over the last two days very good and productive conversations regarding a complete and total resolution of our hostilities in the Middle East.
President Trump taking to Truth Social not only to say there are very good and productive conversations taking place between the United States and Iran, but he goes on to say he's ordered the Department of War to postpone for at least five days strikes against Iran's energy and power infrastructure.
Three weeks into the expanding war in the Middle East, shipping through the Strait of Hormuz is only possible with Iranian permission.
The waterway is critical to the shipment of the world's oil supply, and that is exacting growing pain across this globe.
As drones and missiles rain havoc on oil and gas facilities across the Middle East, thousands of miles away, the war has triggered a crisis in Asia, with energy shortages hitting almost every country on the continent, all dependent on the Persian Gulf for supply.
It'll be opened very soon if this works.
How soon?
And who will control of it?
Will Iran still be able to control the flow?
Be jointly controlled.
By whom?
Maybe me.
Maybe me.
Me and the Ayatollah, whoever the Ayatollah is, whoever the next Ayatollah.
Look, and there'll also be a form of a very serious form of regime change.
Now, in all fairness, everybody's been killed from the regime.
They're really starting off.
There's automatically a regime change.
But we're dealing with some people that I find to be very reasonable, very solid.
The people within know who they are.
They're very respected.
And maybe one of them will be exactly what we're looking for.
Central Command of the entire Iranian Armed Force just told the President of the United States that he has been fired.
You are fired.
You are familiar with this sentence.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events Daily.
We are here live in Phoenix, Arizona.
Yes, we are in Phoenix at the Turning Point Studio, where today of March 23rd, 2026, Ann O'Domini, I will be appearing at a TPUSA pickup-the mic event tonight at ASU.
More on that later.
And supposedly, there's going to be some liberals that are showing up as well at ASU.
So, we're going to be tracking on that as well from the UNF America tour.
So, we'll see if they've declared jihad on us.
We'll see if they actually show up later tonight on campus.
But, I want to get in really quick because we're doing these sit reps and I want to give you a day 24 sit rep of what we're calling Operation Iran.
Over the last 96 hours, and I know I've been away for a couple of days.
I wanted to say thank you to that for that, to Benny Ray Harmony and Bo Davidson for filling in.
They did an incredible job Thursday and Friday.
It was off with Tanya Tay to celebrate her birthday.
And she said that the best thing you could give me is taking time off.
So, I did do that.
But during that time period, we saw very significant activity over the over in Iran and Israel, as well as in the United States.
Biggest news of the day, of course, President Trump driving all of this, a potential five-day partial ceasefire on energy infrastructure while he works what he says towards talks for a deal.
Iran says there have been no talks, but of course, that there's indirect talks and back-channel talks all the time in situations like this.
So, huge de-escalatory signals amid these threats of obliteration regarding the Strait of Hormuz.
What do we also see?
We saw Iran ratchet up the escalatory ladder by conducting ballistic missile strikes in towns like Demona and Arad.
Demona itself being not far from where Israel's nuclear research complex is, and also a site where they reportedly have nuclear weapons.
And so, this obviously is a major message being sent, as well as serious questions about air defense, which, of course, we've been talking about the depletion of air defense here on this program for quite some time.
We've also saw Israeli airstrikes and U.S. airstrikes in and in and across Iran, Tehran, Parchin, Iraq, Isfahan, Kerman, Bandar al-Lang.
85%, they're claiming 85% of Iranian Sam sites have been destroyed, that's surface-to-air missiles.
But we're also seeing this major long-term damage to LNG sites in the area, specifically Qatar.
This is an area where they've received a lot of damage.
We're not talking about disruption to the gas markets, the liquid natural gas.
We're talking about destruction of their capabilities, destruction of these refineries, tens of billions of dollars lost.
And it's all about the Strait of Hormuz.
That is your sit rep as we enter day 24 of Operation Iran.
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Protect Your Data Now 00:03:49
All right, folks, Jack Pesovic.
Are back live here, Human Events, Daily, Real America's Voice.
I want to tell you guys about something that Tanya Tay and I did this weekend.
We actually got to go and see a magician.
And when we went to this act, it was a great act, incredible time.
And Tanya loved it.
I had a great time as well.
But at one point in this act, there was something that was really interesting that the magician did.
And he started calling up people from the audience, seemingly at random.
And he would say, you know, you in the red sweater, you in the blue dress, et cetera.
And he would call from the stage and then point at them and say all of this information about their personal life.
He would talk about their relationships.
He would talk about their family.
He would point out that he knew where they worked.
He would point out that he knew all of this intimate detail from them and all of this information from them.
And he had it written down on this dossier that came up.
Now, this was part of the act.
And he even at some point showed them items in the dossier that he didn't want to put out publicly.
He would say, is this your social security number?
Is this your phone number?
Is this your email address?
Are these your passwords?
Hmm.
Well, was that part of an act?
Yeah, it was part of an act.
But how did he get that information?
We'll tell you how he got that information.
Of course, he has the list of people who buy tickets to the events.
And also, he had a QR code that was up on screen when you walked in.
And guess what?
Once, now, of course, this was all part of an act.
So fortunately, he's not using that for any nefarious purposes, but you need to understand something.
All of that information is out there all the time.
And it's not just on your social media, it is on the big data collection sites.
So anytime you put your information out there, you have to start thinking: was your information potentially leaked?
Did hackers get access to any of those systems?
Did they get your information, your password?
I'm telling you, I saw this in real time.
Go ask her, she saw it too.
All of that information went to the data brokers.
And so this dude started pulling it from the audience.
And then he used it in the act, but you could see this look of shock on people's faces.
And now what's interesting is I didn't actually, I didn't end up doing it myself, but I went up to him afterwards and I said, so were you able to get any information on me?
He said, no.
And I gave him my name and I said, well, this is my name.
It's my wife's name.
Could you get any information on me?
He said, no.
And he said, you know, we tried and we couldn't find anything on you.
And I said, well, you know why that is?
Because we use Patriot Protect.
Because Patriot Protect is the best tool to remove you from those systems.
So we're talking about the 240 major data brokers, the people search sites.
Guess what?
It worked.
I didn't know that we were going to be in this situation, but that's exactly what they were doing.
I figured it out.
And I said, guys, we use the search and destroy protocol.
They monitor, they wipe the new exposures.
So folks, don't just sit there and let scammers and cyber criminals and apparently even magicians get the data on you and your family.
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Foz, what's why are you coming in like this?
Charlie Kirk Consistency Debate 00:15:17
You know, we're doing the show.
We're live.
We're literally, I'm literally doing the show right now, dude.
Yes, yes.
There's, you know, the UNF America guys.
So they're outside right now.
You mean outside at ASU?
No, no, no.
Turning point.
Wait, they're outside.
They're here.
Yes, right outside the gates.
They're right outside the gates.
Yes.
How many are there?
How many are there?
Russ, Russ, get your camera.
It's two trucks.
Two trucks.
Yeah.
Two SUVs.
Dude, we're going.
Tell Russ to get his camera.
We're going out there.
You're going to go out there now.
I'm going out there now.
I'm going right out.
No, hold on.
I'm tweeting this out.
Tweeting this out.
Then we're going.
Tweeting this out.
We're going.
Cancel the rest of the show.
We're whatever we had planned.
We're doing it.
We're going right out.
All right.
I'll be right back.
All right, post over.
We're live on you right now.
Let's go.
Are we up?
All right, cool.
All right, cool.
I'm clipped.
I'm unclipped.
All right, we're going.
No, I'm going.
I'm going straight out.
Got the rosary.
Check.
Rosary check is good.
Guess I'm glad we're going.
Yeah, go out there.
Yep.
We got who we got.
Who we got?
Who we got?
Oh, gosh.
Right.
Oh, we got Andrew here.
Ryan Shapiro.
What's up, pal?
Hey, what's up, man?
Good to see you, Pat.
Good to know.
I did my hat.
Thank you.
I appreciate you guys are coming out.
I said, I'll come out.
Yeah.
Good to see you, Doc.
How do I...
Good to see you, Doc.
Hey, how are you?
How are you?
It's fine.
You're in a...
What's going on?
See you now?
Oh, good disguise.
No, I almost didn't recognize you.
That's something called the week.
We're just a little frustrated because we're you, you're you have been playing.
These guys pronouncing play on their Instagram the other day.
So what happened?
I just saw what Eric said the other day.
I would say that you want to be on the Arizona State campus.
Okay.
We agree on Charlie Perkins.
And we feel like we're kind of being silenced because we're not allowed to sell them at 10 campus.
I just know who it was.
Well, you were having us crazy.
I don't know who it was.
You heard what happened about our just now.
We just heard about it.
I hadn't heard.
I was talking to us.
She wasn't.
So I, Elfred, our issue, because I was flying out.
Yeah.
Blake and I were going to do the mic.
And then, but then as I was coming, we were going to that.
Our main guy, they were like, 100%.
That's like, so what are we going to do?
So I'm literally sitting there like, do I come?
Do I like I have my flight check, you know, booked and everything.
And they're like, well, we'll just flex over to do a inside deal.
Right.
I think we both want to be able to have a conversation.
Yeah, it's on campus with Destiny.
He's here with us.
You know, we want to be able to have debates, even though we might not agree on stuff, right?
And we thought we have on Piers Morgan Flight.
Yeah, as we have.
And then we met at Phoenix and you were very nice to me.
And by the way, I talked about that publication too.
Everybody at the MFS, and I've been very public on this.
Yeah.
Almost everybody was looking nice to me.
I think I was the only person that was there.
And like, there were a few others.
I mean, there were like outlets.
Like MSM, MS Now was there.
I like going to that slow guy.
It looks like that.
I like having conversations.
Anyway, we don't like to put we thought that maybe you guys might have been responsible for why we weren't allowed to be there.
I mean, I want to play Only message I got was about our event getting on.
Well, I don't know if that was like that was still pretty sturdy.
I wasn't exactly the planning.
I got up to say, and then we're doing the bike.
I said, Yeah, great.
And they said, and there's also going to be on African America's going to be something today.
So, and then, yeah, but then so originally, I thought it was going to be like for our event, your event, somewhere on the quad, whatever it is.
And then, but then I got that making organization team.
Yeah, that's basically like where we're going.
Like, the guys are on the streets, and they're like, Oh, it didn't get approved.
I was like, What do you mean it did to get approved?
Like, I was all planning to come, and Blake was planning to come.
And then, okay, well, it sounds like a misunderstanding.
So, then we so then we're able to, I guess, chapter people to like a separate room, and then the room came out and said, and then they said we could do that, but inside, not outside.
This is like a different process than an outdoor event.
Here's a question: Yeah, if no cameras rolling, I don't know if she would ever do tonight.
We'd love for five minutes and just try to know that it would mean a lot if we could do that.
So, then we can start together and be like, Hey, we're not here, we're not here anyway.
Let's do this together.
I don't know if that's possible, but I feel like it would be she's very pro-dialogue in general.
I don't know what the camera is saying, but that being said, yeah, I mean, I don't exactly know if we have that kind of poll with ASU.
Oh, we have anti-affinations that we somehow pull with ASU.
ASU ASU is a government-run substantially left-wing entry.
Even when Charlie was around, they were constantly like, you know, like very anti-Charlie.
So, it's it's not that trust me, like we can always have right multitudes more by many, many measures, including today.
Yeah, including today's.
Um, what time is your event?
Please don't flip off the memorial or HQ.
I actually, I do have the right to do it, I think it's disgusting and grow.
Let's don't do it again.
Please.
I thought you guys had something to do for us to be careful at ASU.
Because the timing was very suspicious.
All right.
We received, I saw you, you note that, but again, I didn't even know you guys were coming until I heard that there was like I got a press inquiry about it saying, Did we have anything to do with it?
And I was like, Anything to do with what I had to go get the details about it, yeah, and yeah, we didn't.
So, and then that's when I looked at C's video and I asked the team as we can give me info on this.
And then I found out, oh, well, that's nice of you.
I appreciate that.
That means a lot.
All right, what I believe is she just came out.
I have to give that quick.
He didn't have to have shit up.
The event is 6 p.m.
I know I met you at half that.
I'm not as cool as all right.
Well, look, I mean, you know, we didn't know some of that stuff, obviously.
Well, that's why dialogue is good.
We appreciate you guys coming out.
We should do a joint event and we should be able to debate each other.
We should be able to in front of your audience and our audience.
How we how we structure it.
It i'm not committing to it right now, but I think I think it would be fun to have a space, so that's fun.
What do we cut?
You have a card?
Give me a card or something.
No, I don't, I don't.
Um, I'm you know, I'm sure we don't possibly oh, wait, you texted me ages ago, so I think I have, yeah, you saw beef without we went into Michael Noel's party and they would let Adam in, and then I went in after but I didn't block Adam was at uh you're that, yeah, yeah, that was Cuomo's thing, and he was so chill back.
He's so nice to meet you.
I'm so and then he gets out okay, I get I get your whole stick.
What was the question?
He's a bulldog.
Uh, he's an e-box, um, it was about uh the young Republican group chat.
I think I think it was that, yeah, and then Smith kind of ganged up on me as well.
And then I think Bill O'Reilly was on stage, and uh, who's that, West Virginia Senator?
I'm just playing, yeah, he was there on stitch too.
That young Republican party's funny about that.
I've never gotten so many uh text messages from people being like, Good for you, good for you, you know, like, don't bow any because it was like it was uh disavow Olympics, which is a favorite tactic of right, right?
Uh, progressing.
Uh, so I see it on both sides these days.
So, we are Charlie Kirk.
There you go, they're just liners.
We carry on the flame.
Well, with all due respect, no, you don't, but you carry on your own stuff.
Yeah, first amendment rights to do so.
What's the this is just what's what's there?
You know, why write we are Charlie Kirk when it's your guys' thing?
So, you respect Charlie, yeah.
Well, we did be able to be well, that's maybe you can find some respect.
We'll express that in the future, but um, Charlie, I never said anything, and I was a motor.
Like, I barely should I should I said it's a hyper flame memories of Texas AM.
Wait a minute, I did say that Trump flatio on the 4th of Fresh show, and it wasn't you that that's having him without us.
He literally looked I was not believing, yeah, I know everybody looks hate him.
That was it, there was no inside information, we didn't even release that information yet.
Charlie Kirk said, Well, we again, we don't have that kind of pool.
We probably it's probably way less similar.
I would say that we probably knew that that you guys were trying to be there and you didn't do it right again.
No, but we did.
We had to eat.
I know, right?
I don't know.
Those ladders were a hit.
So, yeah, that's it.
All right, I'm gonna go back to doing work.
We gotta do a nice picture that the flame burns bright.
We don't all hate each other, okay?
Yeah, right, prove me wrong.
I have nothing to do with that, though.
I didn't, I didn't post it.
I have nothing to do with it.
I'll take down the photo.
You're a socialist.
Oh, that's that's huge.
There you go.
Thank you.
There you go.
Thank you.
Thank you, man.
There you go.
Take a picture.
I'll get a couple of things.
I actually like this.
I actually like the idea.
It's like, you're Charlie Kirk in the sense that we can submit to dialogue rather than, you know, rather.
There it goes again.
It's like, you know, it's a grand service.
It's a grand service.
Dialogue, not violence, right?
Conversation.
Conversation.
All doing right now, freedom of speech.
Where are we looking at?
I don't know.
There's all these cameras.
Turning point and coming together.
Yeah, you guys come up with a new tour name, by the way.
Yeah, also pretty egregious.
Give us some suggestions.
But you remember it.
Yeah, you remember it.
Or literally didn't until this morning, and I heard that we had canceled something.
I remembered everything.
Here, can I shake your hand?
No, my guy slap me.
I can see why he said it.
I'll say, I'll see what he said it.
I could see.
I could see why he said it.
You wouldn't say that about somebody.
He would never, as somebody that served, he's a purple heart recipient.
He served service.
But when you say, I'm glad he's dead, because you didn't like a case, by the way, he wasn't convicted.
He did legitimately.
He went after his kids.
He tried to frame me as a Russian agent.
Okay, so Donald Trump's gone after kids.
He's gone after everybody.
He's gone after, but he dies after his opponents kids.
Oh, those two gold star families.
He's just gone after everything.
But when he died, I'm not going to go on the air and smile and say it's great.
I wouldn't do that.
It's inappropriate.
Yeah, it is.
I think that Donald Trump is going to be Donald Trump.
I think he can't change it.
What's wrong?
I know you know what's wrong.
You wouldn't do that.
I know you know what's wrong.
Why not just say, hey, he shouldn't use language like that?
If a Democrat did that, I know you would call it out.
If Joe Biden had said after a Republican who served this country a decorated, had died because he didn't like it.
You can't take out the Russian age part of it, though.
Right, but what about Russia?
That's what he's referring to.
I think had all had he just been this sort of guy who had served in the past and hadn't been involved in Russia Gate.
Charges weren't filed on Donald Trump.
There was an investigation.
Look at everything the country was put through.
Well, look at Benghazi.
All those years.
Look at Hillary Clinton.
There were eight investigations led by Republicans in the Venkazi, which found that's literally nothing.
But if Hillary Clinton had come out, said one of the prosecutors and came out that day and said, I'm glad he or she is dead, I would call that out.
We did say that about Gaddafi.
Yeah.
It's a little different.
He literally did say that.
A little different talking about that person and then talking about an American prosecutor.
The point I'm trying to make is I want consistency.
What happened to Charlie Kirk was horrible.
It was, but Trump is consistently Trump.
So consistently a douchebag is okay.
That's really what you're saying.
It's I would say Trump has the enemy, his enemies in one box and he has sort of his friends in another box and everybody else is sort of everybody else.
But isn't it wrong?
You're a Christian man.
It's wrong to say you're happy that somebody is dead.
It's wrong to go after gold star families.
It's wrong.
Somebody who's done something evil.
I think when you gloat the following day, when the body's not even cold yet, and you say, I'm quote, glad he's dead, we're not talking.
It's a very different thing what happened in Mueller.
It happened to Charlie.
He's dying.
Somebody murdered and somebody died.
I understand.
Trump's Inconsistent Enemies 00:16:06
Very different situation.
But still, we just say done that.
It was wrong of him to say you're the leader of a free world.
You're supposed to be setting the example.
I understand nobody's perfect, Jack.
You're not perfect.
I'm not perfect.
But when somebody dies, I'm not going to say, I'm really glad they're dead.
Or if he must talk like that, see, we didn't cry.
Don't do it on social media because it's a horrible example for the country to because if you don't like somebody, you're happy when that's against Christianity.
It's against morals.
It's against everything that we talk about, which is wrong, right?
And I just think if you're one of those people on social media that called out, you know, people on social media that were gloating and happy that Charlie Kirk was murdered, which by the way, I called out to you.
A lot of people lost their jobs and they should have been smarter about it.
Then you can't be that person and then not complain about the president of the United States gloating about somebody dying.
I think it's totally different things.
Both wrong, though.
Both wrong.
I mean, it's different.
I mean, when you look, you look at what Mueller presided over.
And I'm even willing to kind of entertain the idea that I mean, when people talk to him, there are some videos that came out.
I guess when he gave his testimony at the very end, I can't remember if that was in front of the House or the Senate, but I mean, he was, he could tell.
He was just kind of not there.
It's sort of like Joe Biden towards the end.
And, you know, I think, if anything, you know, people around him should have pulled him back and say, you know, Paul, don't do this.
I kind of see, this is what I understand about that argument.
I agree with you, Joe Biden's health was deteriorating.
But in the last year, Donald Trump's talking about you need ID to buy bread.
He's confused Iceland with Greenland.
He confuses presidents' name.
I was in the room when he did that.
A lot of people have thought that.
That's not.
Okay.
So why is it when Donald Trump says something absurd and ridiculous and stupid, it's quote, a lot of people do it.
But when Joe Biden or a Democrat does it, his health is deteriorating.
He's on his deathbed.
I want Jack.
I want consistent.
I'm not saying every again.
Donald Trump has always been that way.
He's talked like that since he was in his 40s.
I guess what in the 1980s before he even tried to get the math in my head?
But when we're talking about invading Iceland and he confuses it with Greenland, he always talks like that.
He talks about, he said, Jeb Bush got us into the war in Iraq.
He said that he defeated Barack Obama.
Listen, these are gaps.
What I'm trying to say is in the grains of Trump, Trump, what he does, he accuses Bombast, of course.
And he's always sort of directionally accurate.
But yes, there are times where there's one thing here, one thing there.
With Joe Biden, it's like he didn't, he couldn't tell you what year it was.
He can tell you what year his son died when they asked him.
He was forgetting serious things.
Yeah, yes, absolutely.
Trump's clearly.
Of course, you can't meant they're both old.
But we need people.
But one, but I've also met people who were that age and older who were completely with everybody's different.
Everybody's different.
That's even I agree.
Okay.
So I respect your service.
As I, as I, I'm not a JD Vance guy.
Obviously, I'm not a Ron DeSantis guy, but I would never on their military service.
I want to ask you about Iran because I feel like this is an ill-advised, illegal war.
And we've heard seven or eight illegal to who?
Well, we've heard six, seven, or eight different excuses as to why we went in.
First, we were told the civilians need to rise up.
Then we were told regime change.
Then we were told weapons of mass.
We talked about that again today.
Right.
But then we were told weapons that, you know, we were told we obliterated their capabilities eight months ago.
Now, apparently, we've obliterated them again.
Well, my understanding, at least, with the WMD, you know, these immersed uranium stockpiles, is that the situation is they're so deep underground in these, in these facilities, that you know the facilities themselves, entrances and the entryways.
It's kind of like the pyramid.
You know they had the, they had like the, the breathing tube, etc.
That you get down but that the uranium itself is still down there.
It's rich uranium.
So I think it is still there.
It's just a question of whether it access.
But that is, I guess they were saying, was it liquid for?
So he came up, he campaigned and I'm going to be a peace president.
I'm going to be a no war president.
I'm going to be a no regime president.
And I feel like that's not America first.
And that's not what he's doing right now.
And I go back to 2016.
We're going to build a ball of Metz going to pay for it.
I'm going to hire a special process.
I mean, let me smoke for you before you know, because I think, you know, fair point.
That's that's obviously a fair deal.
Wait, you said one thing and now it seems like you're doing something else.
And you know, what I would say back in terms of obviously it's, you know, it's not no war.
Like, obviously, yeah, this is.
It's a war.
It's a war.
I was going to say it's like Russia, the special military operation.
You know, and yeah, it certainly is.
Now, we haven't seen an Iraq-style war.
We haven't seen an Afghanistan-style war where it's goots on the ground.
Trump's not ruling that out.
And it's, you know, full and invasion.
Well, even if it's a special forces operation, I'm just saying it's not, it is, it is a different category of thing than a full-on national invasion occupation.
That's 175 school children that were murdered, which I'm sure we both could agree with is horrible, right?
Of course, it's horrible.
Donald Trump blamed Iran in days afterwards.
As you know, they don't even have tomahawk missiles.
So my question to you is, was he lying or is he that ill-informed?
And he didn't.
I couldn't tell you what the intelligence cycle is up at that level.
But everybody knows they didn't have Tomahawk.
Obviously, obviously a horrible challenge.
You have cruise missiles.
Correct.
But again, one of those things where, you know, he says Tomahawk makes it just like.
I mean, he didn't apologize.
To this day, he hasn't taken responsibility.
To this day, Pete Hegseth has.
But Iran has also murdered tons of Tales.
I don't doubt that.
But we were responsible for them.
And horrible atrocities happen.
What I want to see is I want to see people own it, not make excuses the way Donald Trump did.
Pete Hegseth knew we were responsible.
Heck, he put up a map during a press conference of one of our targets with the school being right next to it.
How do you not know what you're doing?
I mean, he pretty much, they pretty much admitted it, even though they didn't.
I mean, you know me.
You know where I've been on this.
You know, I've publicly said, you know, that I think, I think that this is something that we don't want to get into.
And I've said that.
Now we are in it, obviously.
And so what I've tried to do is call balloon strikes as best I can, you know, going forward and say, you know, we don't put it this way.
If this thing expands, if this thing gets to the point where we do have like serious ground invasion forces, if we do see those marine expeditionary units, if they all go in, et cetera, you know, 25,000 at a cliff, 2500 at a cliff, that, you know, you're going to see more tragedy.
And that's not something I want.
I would hope that's something that nobody wants.
Do you want to see a president wearing a baseball cap?
And when our brave men and women are coming home in coffins, again, I keep saying this because I respect your service.
These are brave men and women who are coming home in caskets.
Donald Trump is standing there and he can't even take his hat off.
You guys, you're one of them.
You were criticizing Joe Biden for a half a second looking at his watch.
By the way, he did that at every event.
It was like a nervous twig.
And some of you still talk about that.
Why is that wrong?
But Donald Trump wearing a hat when our brave men and women are coming home in caskets, which Fox News, by the way, as you know, hid and used bold footage, which they did that on purpose.
That wasn't a mistake to build a politics.
I can't speak for far.
I tell you the truth, just my own personal side of it, that being a Navy guy, that we actually do stay covered in those situations as opposed to not as planned chief as different.
But I don't think it affected me as much personally because we're different from different branches because Navy just we stay covered in those situations.
So like in the Navy, you don't salute if you're not covered, for example.
You might have asked you some more questions.
I don't know either.
Absolutely.
So $2 billion a day, this war is covered.
But he showed up.
He showed up.
Yes, he showed up.
Of course.
So did Joe Biden, but there were 164 soldiers.
And to be clear, I'd rather, I'd much rather in both instances that there were no coffees coming off, of course, of the plane control.
That's that's what you agree for concern about.
You agree, our president maybe shouldn't be one that drafts that dodges the military and so on.
That's a separate question, but as you know, Donald Trump dodged the military.
He's got a lot of spurs.
He's got a lot of military that have answers.
Okay, but Joe Biden's son served.
Donald Trump, it's one thing if you don't serve, but it's when you've dodged the military that I have a serious problem.
If you serve, you can't be okay with it.
Look at the draft dodger as well.
Which, if that is true, which I'm not sure, but if it is, I would call that out as well.
I would say that's wrong.
We shouldn't have a president.
We should have someone that served rather than somebody that dodges the military.
Our president has never been in a fight with anybody.
He fights himself, I guess.
And I find that tolerantly when he dodges the military.
I think it's all horrible, horrible characteristic of someone when you dodge the military.
At least Bo Biden served, and some people still attack Joe Biden for saying he didn't die while serving.
Do you agree with Carter doing the blank pardon for the draft dodgers?
Not necessarily.
Not necessarily.
And I didn't think Jimmy Carter was a very good president, a very nice man.
I didn't think he was a good president.
I didn't form a decent submariner.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, that's my personal take there.
I guess I wanted to go back to the war real quick.
Can I ask you?
Sure, sure.
Go ahead, Steve.
Yeah.
I have a question.
So, during Amphest, saw that Myron Gaines went into the event with the Holocaust at the health smoker.
You guys have Jewish staff.
Well, I wanted to be clear.
I didn't, I didn't.
I'll just say for my own part that I didn't know that there was a shirt that said that because this was an inside joke.
I mean, I didn't know either.
I'm just saying it wasn't like an over, you know what I mean?
Yeah, but would you now knowing that would you allow him into training planning?
I'm not in charge of allowing.
No, but you personally, like, would you want him to go like knowing that you have Jewish staff in your building?
Would you want him to go into training events with that?
I mean, I think the shirt was obviously gross.
It was a trolling shirt.
Yeah.
So you'd be okay with him though?
Oh, it's a charge.
I don't think you should show up for somebody's event and wear a shirt where you're clearly, you know, it's again, like doing the inside joke paint of like, hey, I'm going to, you know, you know, walk around like this, and then people won't realize what I'm doing until much later and some, you know, put out the big reveal and kind of stuff like that.
I mean, I think if you're invited to event, you go in, you know, you know, stay respectful.
Like, would you still want him in there knowing his history of saying that he calls, he says that, you know, he says that he says terribly misogynistic things.
He says incredibly great things.
Do you know his history?
What do you think he is?
You still so debated down with Tim Bolton.
I get a lot of stuff.
I assume he did such, but I'm on shape if Mike calls me a Dreidel spinner.
His friend, what's his friend's name?
Called me the cup.
I'll just say it.
My friend said that multiple times.
And Myron has said some very anti-Semitic things to me.
What do you say about her?
Yeah, he's literally heard.
He's just so vile.
It's so vile.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't realize that was you.
Oh, yeah, that was.
Sorry, I just put all that together.
Well, because I feel like turning point stands for family values, right?
So like women should have children.
They get fat while they're having together.
No, that's fine.
I mean, I don't want to be known as the fat Jews.
I'm glad you know.
Would it be possible possible?
I guess what we're asking if Myron Gaines would not be invited to the next again.
I'm in charge of inviting people that I'm not, I'm a contributor here.
I'm not.
Do you feel like personally, do you feel like you should be allowed into the land name to the events?
Well, you know, Charlie had always sort of had a general policy regarding that.
And, you know, and that's obviously something that we all, we all know, I think.
Yeah.
And, you know, I think it's unfortunate.
I think it's unfortunate that you give you, give someone a card and then they act that way to other people who are also.
No, were you there?
Did you also have a pass?
And you were just outside?
No, we were just outside.
You're just outside okay, but you were.
You were there yeah, and and honestly now, same deal, I you know, with profanity on the shirts.
I don't know if we'd allow those shirts in.
So, wait you oh, hold on you.
You wouldn't allow somebody with an unamericatory shirt in, because you would allow somebody with the holocaust.
Now no no, I explained that because I said that it wasn't overtaking, you know?
No, i'm saying that it wasn't overturned.
How did you know?
It wasn't like people said, it wasn't like oh, that's what it is.
Come on in yeah, but i'm just saying, I think, just offhand, I think there's a general statement about offensive, you know sure, but would you allow them in now, knowing what that means with with that?
No, because there's a general policy okay, so you okay because, but I was saying that, like with with your shirt, with other shirts again, because these are events where yeah um, there's children, you know, is there?
I mean, we're looking for consistency across the board, right.
So if you're saying you wouldn't allow us with those shirts in, sure right, you want something that says obviously we wouldn't want that either, which I understand yeah, at the same time, we're.
You know, I don't have a problem with someone having a first amendment, right.
So you know they're not private property.
Our event, and again, at an event where we have children, I understand that's a thing where it's like, and that's why I didn't go there to cause any problem.
We don't want that.
We're going out of conversation.
Teddy bear.
I'm sorry.
All right, here's what I don't like about what they're doing.
Yeah uh, and listen, I know they gave you.
I told Tim Cool the same thing when you asked the question in the White House.
I said, i'm not a journalist.
You're not a journalist.
Tim's not a journalist.
Tim actually agreed with me on this.
We're opinionated talk show hosts.
Right, you do a podcast.
I think the White House press room should be for journalists, not for people like us that are talk show hosts and at the Pentagon they're not even Hegseth's, not even calling on people that are asking challenging questions.
I think that's bad for democracy, just like when Peter Docey asked Joe Biden you know sometimes stupid questions, but they allowed him in there, right?
Do you think that?
Do you think that new media shouldn't be allowed in at all though?
I mean I, I like journalists on the right and the left.
Yes, i'm okay with that, but we are not journalists.
We are talking about how you define journalists.
That's where I have an issue with that.
Yeah, is that?
Who defines who's?
Well, if you're, if you're.
Completely biased on one end of the spectrum and you don't ask challenging questions to me, for example, there's nobody on the right that'll ask Airline Weather tomorrow?
Uh, what do you make about the comments that Donald Trump made about?
You know?
Uh, guy who just got I forget his name now um Robert No uh, you know.
Or the Rob Riner statements.
I mean, he was just going off on Newsmax this morning okay well good, I didn't ask him.
Not happy about.
I don't feel like Headset Hegseth is asked challenging questions from and I told candidates, Cam Higbies, the next Sorters and other.
You know, I think it's an important part of this country to be able to challenge politicians and I feel like Donald Trump and the FCC, but that's two different things.
That's two different things.
And I and I hear you on the challenging questions and I agree with that.
Questions should always be like.
When i'm in one of those situations, I try to press them and in the times that I have been on, you know you said you were going to do this or you've said that this was going to happen.
When's that happening?
When is that?
When is that going to go down?
That you have to push, you know?
Uh, last time I I think the last question I want to say that I asked the president was about the board of Peeps and I said, are you going to allow China Rush in you know which?
Again, it's, it's not.
You know some like whatever question.
It's, like that's serious question because we just come from that UH WORK piece and it was like the context and that that's valid, that's really valid.
But what I do have an issue with is you know who gets to define who's a journalist or not.
That I the way I view it, the way I view it is, and you look CNN, Laura Loomers Laura Loonix.
And CNN, but CNN is now doing podcast sets, right?
Jay Taper and Anderson Cooper and I guess who else they're all doing podcast sets.
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So they're kind of moving into the new media style as well.
So if they're doing that and doing more of a talk show, you know, kind of deal, then why, you know, why cut off people from new media?
Because I think Tapper and Anderson Cooper, who clearly didn't lean to the left, but I think they also challenge Democrats as well.
I see it on their network.
I've never seen Jake Tapper challenge Josh Pierre to anything.
Oh, Josh, you can't speak to that.
I can't.
I mean, they have a very, they have a very close relationship.
And he's as my, you know, governor of Pennsylvania that it just, it just drives me nuts.
And they, and they never challenges him on any.
So do you think?
So where's the bar?
Should Candace Owens be allowed to get a press credential?
Should Matt Walsh be allowed to get a press credential?
I mean, listen, we probably agree on Candace Owens.
I think she's a despicable human being.
But I also feel the same way about Matt Wall because he attacks transgenders and it attacks brown people every day.
I don't think those kinds of people should be allowed to press credentials.
I think it's very dangerous.
You're a podcaster.
I'm a podcaster.
We're opinionated.
We have different views.
I get that.
I want Republicans and Democrats to be challenged.
What if, but what if, hold on.
Yeah.
What if there was like, and I can't speak for that because I don't work in the White House, but what if they actually did a new media day, but it was on the left?
Because they do have, they have had these new media, you know, meteoros or new people meetings.
What if?
Speculated.
I don't think there's any chance they would do that, though.
Because what if I think that'd be great, but they would never do that.
Maybe another Republican would do that or another president, but Donald Trump is going back in blame.
I could see it.
I could see JD doing that.
Perhaps, but I don't think JD's running for president.
I think Marco Ruby and Catherine Ross.
That's what I you think Tucker?
I know.
Do you think who has a better chance to win?
Marco Rubio or JD Benz?
Right now, JD Benz.
Really?
Yeah.
You really think?
Wow.
Yeah, I'm surprised.
Well, I mean, he's leading all our primaries, the polls, rather.
Who scares you the most on the left?
Scares?
Nobody.
Well, scare is the wrong word.
I've heard Tellerico.
What is the biggest challenge from the left right now if the elections were held tomorrow?
Newsome is the strongest man.
Right now, yes.
Yeah.
Newsome is strong.
He's got a lot of back.
But he's a good debate.
He's got that presidential.
He's a good debater.
He's got the look.
I do think, though, you know, a lot of these guys, the problem coming in, I got to get in the 10-minute market.
Okay.
Problem is, the problem with it, similar to what you're saying, by the way, the problem coming up into like, like when I got into it with Mamdani in, you know, in the White House, and then Newsom, who I met at Davos recently, asked him a hard question, by the way.
And the problem, I think, of coming up in those media environments, because it's like so blue and so left.
Yeah.
They've never had to face questions from the right before, ever.
And they kind of freeze.
It's very strange, you know, or like, you know, he goes up with like, you know, Hannity or something.
I mean, I love you, Shaw.
I want both.
So what I'm saying, though, is they haven't been scrutinized at the level that we can go to.
So Newsom, I don't even know if he's had that primetime moment.
He's willing to go on Fox News, which I appreciate.
Just like I wish more Democrats would do that.
And I wish more Republicans would go on MSNBC.
I think it's better for the country when people do that.
But I can't imagine.
I'm just trying to say, I'm just trying to say, I think, I mean, Newsome's strongest, but I just don't think he's had to deal with Aversario Media before.
I really don't.
I think he'll be okay there.
But speaking of which, you can't be happy with Mark Wayne Molly.
Can't be happy with him possibly being the next guy in charge of DHS, the guy that gets up and challenges people to physical altercations in the middle of house hearings.
I mean, the only experience that guy has, all due respect to plumbers, is being a plumber and running a plumbing company.
I mean, these are not competent people.
Christy Nom.
I mean, there's illegal aliens in that industry.
Illegal aliens in what industry?
Contracting.
Yeah, sure.
I agree.
But they're not, you know, running the head of DHS.
I'm talking about, I understand what you're saying, but this is a guy, at least in my personal opinion, who is not qualified for that position.
Just like I said, Christy Noam wasn't qualified for that position.
The wife of a guy who ran the WWE.
I just feel like I hear DEI hires all the time from the right, but I think these are white hires.
I really do.
I think there are people in the Trump administration that are completely unqualified for certain positions.
Christine Noam was obviously, I think Senator Law will be fine.
I think it would be fine.
Let me ask you another question.
I know you got to go soon.
Does January 6th happen if Donald Trump doesn't say the election is stolen?
I want to hear your things about that.
When you say January 6th, do you mean the actual violence?
Yeah.
You're talking about the riot that broke out.
If he didn't lie about the election, because, you know, I don't think it's lie.
Do you think Donald Trump won the 2020 election?
I think that it was not conducted properly.
Okay, but I didn't ask you that.
Do you believe Joe Biden won a freight fair election?
No.
You don't.
So why weren't they able to present that in a court of law?
Because they were like, give us standing.
Where's the evidence of widespread voter fraud that would have changed the outcome of the election?
And why has nobody been able to present it yet?
The only two people that seem to still talk about is Mike Wendell, the pillow idiot, and Dinesh D'Souza, who's a felon.
Why are those LDB?
Our circumstances just literally just tweeted about it this morning.
But if there was clear-cut evidence, then why hasn't it been presented?
Why hasn't anyone actually presented all the time is that every time we try to bring it up in court, they say you don't have standing.
So they'll say it's the only president in American history.
I don't find any judge in America that's going to be willing to over federal election.
That's the issue.
Okay, well, they didn't even say there was merit, meaning no real clear and cut evidence, not one judge.
Because they never ruled on it.
Some of those judges were appointed by Donald Trump, as you know.
But they never got to the point of ruling on it.
I haven't seen any widespread voter fraud evidence.
I would assume you haven't either.
And Donald Trump is the only president in American history that has yet to concede an election.
And the reason why I asked you about January 6th is because he pardoned 1,500 people, half of those people, violent criminals, as you know, some of those people who beat police officers with their own thoughts.
Can we agree that you're not a hostage and you're certainly not a patriot?
I'm not saying there weren't people that were over-prosecuted back then.
I've admitted that there are, but the people who beat cops are not patriots, whether it's a Black Lives Matter protest or January 6th.
We agree on that.
Luke, so when I was at January 6, and you didn't go in.
I was walking down the street at one point and then filmed it from the ground, then went up on a roof like a Jason.
Right.
101 Constitution Act.
And, you know, kind of like looking down to get a try to understand what was going on.
And the thing that I'll always say that led to the problems at Jan 6, I'm not going to say, I'm not going to speak that there was violence.
Obviously, there's violence.
But what I've always said is that I really wish that they had tried de-escalation first because there was no de-escalation.
There was no call to disperse.
There was no, you know, there was no sitting down.
Hold on.
And then the very next thing, which I saw with my own eyes, is that prior to the police's response, the crowd was peaceful.
Okay, they should, should they have been there or not?
They were peaceful, all right?
Until the cops threw flashbangs into the crowd.
And when they threw those flashbangs into the crowd, it sparked this huge response, which you're not supposed to do.
It breaks every rule of power control.
And so they started feeling that they were under attack by the police.
And so rather than call for dispersal, rather than call, you know, go up on the loudspeaker and say, you know, it's unlawful.
Donald Trump four and a half hours on the ability to do something and right there on the scene that it was the police that threw those flashlights and I saw him to a peaceful crowd.
So here's my issue with what you're saying.
Even if that is true, which I'm not so sure is.
It is.
Why is it that why is it then when MAGA Republicans look at what ICE, what the ICE situations that took place in Minneapolis, immediately they defend, oh, well, they were in the right.
No independent investigation with Jonathan Ross.
And, you know, they're, what did, what did Stephen Miller call call him?
I'm trying to remember a terrorist.
And you had Christy Noam calling them domestic terrorists.
So in that situation, we're going to back the blue.
But on January 6th, what you're doing, which I disagree with, is in a sense, blaming them.
Nobody forced those people to beat police officers.
You're talking about two complete situations.
But I think it's hypocrisy.
Nobody forced those people on January 6th to beat cops.
You're trying to say, you're doing this thing where you say, oh, there needs to be a standard across the board, but then you take completely different situations, pull them out of the all of them.
Oh, because I haven't heard that.
I haven't heard anybody.
You're the first person.
I've never heard of that.
I've said it since the day I saw it.
I'm not saying you haven't, but I've just, I haven't heard that from anybody else.
All I'm saying is nobody forced people to beat cops on January 6th.
Nobody forced people to chant hang Mike Pence.
Nobody forced people to get going.
Nobody forced the police to not call for de-escalation or use, which they could have.
If there were ways that there could have been de-escalation, then I wouldn't have a problem with that.
Okay.
But what I do have a problem with is the president of the United States.
Because, for example, every single, remember, this is in the console.
Jan 6, 2021, all of the 2020 era, it was pretty much in the same era, right?
So did have PLM protests, MBLM riots, NATIFA at the White House, and all these in all of those instances, there was a call to disperse.
Every single one of those instances.
And yet, for whatever reason, on January, honestly, what I think happened is I think they were overwhelmed.
I think they were understaffed.
President Trump had called for the National Guard to be there.
They were not there, or they're certainly not there in numbers that were sufficient.
Yeah.
And all of these things.
Well, I agree.
I disagree on that.
Last question because I know you have to go.
You know, they weren't there.
Who wasn't there?
National Guard.
Right.
But Donald Trump, why does Cam Donald Trump call out the National Guard the snap of a finger a few months back?
He did, but didn't call out the National Guard on January 6th.
He did.
I find that interesting.
He did, though.
You can go still up on Twitter.
Muriel Bowser, who's the mayor of New York, Mayor, Mayor D. Gosh.
Yeah.
Has a tweet up saying that we refuse federal assistance for January 1st.
We can go deep into that.
I just want to ask you one more question because I know you got to go.
Don't you think that if the National, just you're playing the what if game, right?
So if the National Guard had been there, as President Trump, it would have helped, of course.
Do you think, and he'd call for a lot, not just like, because there were a couple of things.
If that is true, if that is true, if that is true, because I thought the commission looked into that.
I thought that they found it wasn't true.
But if what you're telling me was true, I would agree with Chris Miller, who is the DOD secretary, said it was true.
So some people have said it was true.
No, I don't.
Kash Patel's true true.
He's in the room.
Yeah.
And Kash Patel's no credibility.
And Muriel Bowser has, again, a Democrat, but has a tweet up where she's refusing federal assistance.
But last question, you mentioned your face.
I didn't call for it.
Last question.
I know you're in a rush.
You mentioned Kash Patel.
I'm not in a rush.
We're live in this stream.
Oh, I'm sorry.
It had sentence in two minutes.
Okay.
You were one of those people that had a binder.
You've been asked about this a lot.
And I learned that.
And I've talked to you about this on Pierce.
And they made you out to look like a fool to no fault of your own in that situation.
It was not a good day.
It was not a good day.
We agree.
Jordan Biden is still in that position.
Donald Trump has not let her go.
To this day, there's only been two people that have been accountable with the Epstein false.
And that's Jeffrey Epstein.
I'll give you something.
We haven't announced this publicly yet, but we are going to be sitting, we're working on sitting down, it's not officially booked, but sitting down with a member of the DOJ, senior official later this week.
And we're going to ask him those very questions.
Good.
I hope that will you make that public?
It'll be on the show.
Good.
I think that's really important.
Does it bother you at all that his name is mentioned, Donald Trump's name, thousands and thousands and thousands of times?
In a criminal capacity?
I didn't ask you about a criminal capacity.
I think there are credible claims in here.
And the reason why I say credible, this is a guy who was found liable of sexual abuse.
He has 25 women that accused him of sexual assault or rape, including his ex-wife in a deposition.
This is a guy who bragged about grabbing women by the gym.
He was best friends.
Everyone was thinking, though, when they looked into it, they couldn't find robbery.
You guys called Joe Biden a pedophile for sniffing hair.
Donald Trump's in the Epstein files thousands and thousands.
Do you think Donald Trump in the Epstein files thousands of times is weird to hate?
It's getting a little snippy.
All I'm saying is a little bit snippy.
They're giving me the dreamy thing, too.
Good to see you.
Hey, man, I appreciate you coming out.
I really do.
Oh, hair flare, bro.
I know he didn't have to come out here, so I appreciate it.
I wanted to.
I got to give him credit.
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