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EP 535: PORTLAND JURY RULES AGAINST ANDY NGO IN ANTIFA ASSAULT CASE, DOJ SEARCHES TRUMP TWITTER ACCOUNT

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events, live from Washington, Jack Posobiec, here, August 9th, 2023, Anno Domini.
Folks, do you understand now that there are parts of this nation that are no longer governed by the Constitution?
There are parts of this world in which we live in where demonic forces are rising up.
This is a spiritual war that we're in.
I understand that 2016 level energy is rising but we've seen news both out of the west coast today where one story
Elon Musk, we're going to get into this more, but Elon Musk has just been fined $350,000 by the Department of Justice for refusing to give access to Donald Trump's Twitter account to Jack Smith and the special counsel.
We're working on getting a copy of that subpoena and we will get a copy as soon as possible.
We'll get reporting on what exactly it was that they were after.
But more to the point, And we're going to have an intrepid journalist on later in the show today.
Portland, Oregon.
Where Andy Ngo was attacked, targeted and attacked multiple times.
It's on video!
And a jury in Portland decided that Antifa shouldn't be liable for those attacks.
This is the same jurisdiction where just a few years ago, right down the street, 57 nights Antifa laid siege to the federal courthouse in Portland.
Now they're in there.
They're threatening jurors.
They're threatening journalists.
Smashing cars.
And the judges don't care.
The judges want it to be this way.
Want us to have to live like that.
I've told you before to get out of cities.
You must run out of cities.
And then you got these Republicans sitting around.
And yeah, I said it and I was on Glenn Beck this morning.
They want to do the Marquesa-Queensbury rules.
They want gloves on.
Oh, let's be fair.
Let's write another memo.
Let's take it.
No.
Hardball.
If Hunter Biden committed a crime in a red jurisdiction, charge him.
Go after him.
We know he was driving around Arizona.
We know that he was going through multiple other red states, red jurisdictions.
Get it done.
Just get it done.
Kentucky, wherever it is.
I don't care.
You must employ the system shock strategy.
Because if one side is willing to arrest political opponents, and Trump's fourth indictment is coming in Georgia next week we're told, one side's willing to do that and the other side is worried about playing nice, another side is saying, oh impeachment that might be a little too far, we're not sure, Cut off Jack Smith's funding.
Cut off the ability for all of these things.
Bring all of them in.
Hold them in contempt.
Impeach Merrick Garland.
Do all of these things.
And get out of these blue areas.
We don't need a civil war.
What we need is a civil exodus.
A civil exodus right now if you live in one of these blue areas.
And by the way, move to a purple state.
Stay back.
Stay tuned.
We're going to come along with more later.
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I want to bring in here Richard Barris, because as all of this insanity is going on, the insanity of Portland, the insanity of the DOJ trying to go after Trump's Twitter account, I think we're starting to see the numbers in the polls reflected back Republicans, Independents, because what's really going on here, Rich, what's really going on is that People can see it's gone too far.
It's all gone too far.
And then you're going after a guy like Trump who has this connection with the base that is not going to be shaken.
It's just not going to be shaken when you're doing all these things.
It's only going to galvanize people further.
Rich, is that what we're seeing in the new numbers?
We now have new numbers, Jack, that are post the last indictment.
And let's be clear, this last indictment was their pun intended trump card.
So if there was going to be any deterioration, you would expect you would see it.
It's not there.
And I, again, I just don't know, Jack, I mean, what people did expect from this particular indictment since we've already seen almost 40 counts between Alvin Bragg and Jack Smith.
So it's not that it surprised me.
I did wonder whether they would get some kind of fatigue, but I think you're just dead on.
Presidential elections still are A-B tests, and the more people find out about Joe Biden, it's like, so this guy's administration...
Is persecuting this guy for that?
You know, if you're a normie, that's kind of how you see it.
And also why Republicans, I was listening to your last segment, Republicans should be ashamed of themselves.
They should have already been moving forward with impeachment proceedings.
You're not going to get a conviction, but if you want your guy to win, Then you open up this dialogue, this conversation, you show the American people by forcing mainstream media to not ignore the Biden bribery stories and everything that comes with it, then it becomes even more evident to the American public, independents included, why they are persecuting and prosecuting Donald Trump, right?
Who the general public, like him or love him, still believes that he's not one of them.
So, you know, you're telling a very simple story like that.
And now that we do have all of this new data, it's very clear.
It's not hurting him.
He remains the strongest Republican presidential candidate against Joe Biden.
By far, it's not even that close.
And despite some of the questions we've heard from statewide polls, New Hampshire, that was, will you vote for him in prison?
Will you vote for him if he's convicted?
The bottom line is, even if he's convicted, most Republicans, of course, are going to vote for him over Joe Biden.
There's just no, come on.
I'm even seeing in some of this data, it's 70% of Republicans said yes, even if Trump was in prison.
That included, I think it was in the premise, like 45% of independents.
Not just convicted, even if he were actually behind bars, which I'm not entirely sure if we are gonna go.
I haven't decided yet whether I think that the regime is willing to do that.
I asked Vivek Ramaswamy, he said he thinks they will, so credit to him on that.
I agree.
I don't know.
I just don't know if they're willing to do it yet because, I've said before, that's what blows this country up.
That would just absolutely throw this country into complete chaos.
It would burst the republic apart at the seams.
I don't know.
Part of me thinks they're not really that crazy, are they?
I mean, Jack, everything I've seen In the last six years or so, I'm really leaning toward, I don't really think they care if they destroy the country as long as they can rule over the rubble.
You know, what's left.
Uh, I really, you know, I really do think that they're living by, you know, it's better to rule in hell than serve in heaven kind of a premise.
True.
Um, which is, which is sad, but you know, the numbers like that are, are encouraging because I, I tell people this, it's kind of more than political polling.
You don't even have to get into the weeds on some of this stuff.
It's human nature.
Americans really love the underdog.
They've always loved the underdog story.
And this is so blatant.
I really think you have to be a partisan, and when we look at independents 30-35% in polls, the truth is even among that group, many still lean to one side or the other.
So when we're looking at the truly persuadable middle 9-14%, they know what this is, Jack.
They know what this is, and it's never happened in their lifetime.
Many of them tell us they can't believe it's happened in their lifetime.
So it's very off-putting.
It's not a good look, especially when you're expected to be beaten.
It's not a good look to consider putting your opponent in jail.
So that actually hurt Trump in 2020.
It did.
That's a good point, that's a very good point actually, that he didn't seem willing to do that, right?
Because Republicans need to have, you know, are constantly wish-casting and you got people like Kennedy up there, TikTok, the sealed indictment, two more weeks.
Whereas the Democrats don't have to, they don't need copium, they don't need hopium, right?
They can sit there and watch their political opponents be arrested time and time again.
That's why, you know, I'll give a shout out to Elon Musk for being willing to take this $350,000 fine for refusing to comply with the special counsel's search warrant on Trump's Twitter account.
They were looking for access to it.
We don't know quite yet exactly what All the details are on it, but, you know, huge shout out for Billy Newilla to take it on the chim with that.
But at the same time, Rich, you told us that there was something in the data, specifically in this premise poll, that a lot of people were missing.
Break that down for us.
Beyond the prison side, what are you seeing?
Yeah.
So we have also been seeing this, and I'm still researching, but at least October of 2021 we started to see this, and I got curious, so I looked back and I found some evidence of it.
Quinnipiac polling and CNN polling.
Typically, Jack, when it's a poll of all adults, Republicans don't do as well.
They just don't.
So when you're looking at the registered voter population, that tends to favor Democrats a little bit, but then likely voters, you know, people that are actually going to turn out.
Helps Republicans on the top lines a little bit.
What we've been seeing in the Trump era is the complete opposite of conventional political wisdom.
So, if you look at the non-registered population, normally a lot of us will screen them out.
We don't always.
We just show you the difference.
And we'll also, even among registered voters, show you the difference between those who are likely and not.
The normies, Jack.
The people who don't vote all the time.
Right now, if you look at the premise poll, Trump leads Biden by 20 points with people who are not registered to vote.
So instead, of pumping out a half a billion dollars to try to overturn the will of the majority of the party.
Don't you think that money would be smarter or more wisely spent reaching out to those people, going after them?
We looked in the battleground states, I don't want to give my hand away, but all across the Rust Belt, Jack, there are tons of people who are, let's say, you know, registered for certain activities that are very pro-right-wing activities but aren't even registered to vote.
Where are those Republican registration pushes?
And by the way, DeSantis was only ahead of Biden by two with this group.
So 20 versus 2.
It just, it blows my mind.
And then I saw it and I thought, you know what?
This has happened in our polling too.
Let me go back and look.
How long has this been the case?
It's been the case since 21 solidly with us in the fall of 2021.
But I also saw several Quinnipiac polls back dating to 2020.
So this has been hovering there like all of these Trump votes out there that can be You know, I don't want to say harvested right away.
You have to go and introduce yourself.
You have to, you know, you have to make contact, seven points of contact with these votes.
They're stupid.
We talked about this with Scott.
We talked about this with Scott Pressler.
We've had him on for multiple field updates talking about this.
But what I said before, you know what this is?
And Politico actually used this term.
They called it, so you remember how there was that, we used to, Rush used to say low information voters, right?
Rush used to say that.
But Politico had a term, No Information Voters.
And you know what that made me think of?
That made me think of, like, someone that isn't watching the news.
They're not watching human events.
They're not watching your show.
They're not watching... You know what they're watching?
You know what they're doing, though?
They're at UFC fights.
They're on all these podcasts that Trump is going on.
They're involved in all of these things, right, that would be natural Trump supporters, but maybe they're, to your point, maybe they aren't necessarily registered to vote.
That's what the number is capturing that you're looking at right there.
That's exactly what this is.
When Trump can sit down and do an hour-long podcast talking about UFC and world wrestling and all of these other, you know, just sports in general, this huge audience that politicians and political pollsters don't usually track.
We're coming out of a break, but last word to Richard Barris.
Yeah, I mean, they're going to Geno's for a cheesesteak after a hard day at work, Jack.
Right?
They're not turning on Sean Hannity to get copium.
Excuse me.
Excuse me.
He went to Pat's.
You know?
He went to Pat's.
Excuse me.
Fact check.
He went to Pat's.
Right.
Right.
They're not going home to turn on Hannity to get copium.
That's not what they're doing.
They're living their lives.
But vote for Trump if you got them registered and out to the polls.
No, I think this is what we need, Scott Pressler.
We need his work on.
This is what's really happening here, folks.
Rich, do we have you for another segment?
Yeah, I'm here, bro.
I think we actually... I'm sorry about that.
We have to run to another one.
Maybe I'll get you up.
If you're able to hang out, we can get you back on after our next, because we do have a hit next with Katie Davis Court directly from Portland.
You talk about influences.
These are influences, and they're friends of mine.
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Where's Jack?
Jack, he's done a great job.
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Very excited to bring in now the intrepid journalist that has been breaking this story for us and for the entire world.
Yeah, correct.
I was not going to stay there last night after what happened, so I escaped to a nearby farm, but I'm still in Oregon.
And it's safe to say, Katie, that you are no longer inside Portland.
Is that right?
Yeah, correct.
I was not going to stay there last night after what happened.
So I escaped to a nearby farm, but I'm still in Oregon.
Yeah.
Well, okay.
So, so breakdown for us, We know that Andy, the jury, this Portland jury, found Antifa, these members, not liable for the attacks on Andy, even though they were the targeting cell, if not members of the Black Bloc themselves, in multiple attacks on Andy, John Hacker, Elizabeth Richter.
But, Katie, tell us what you experienced while covering this trial inside the courtroom day in, day out.
Right, so this was the case of defendant Hacker and Richter and they are the alleged Antifa doctors and for those people who might not know what that is, their jobs is to identify people that they think might be infiltrating these events and then push the targets to members in Blacklock who then go on and get attacked.
And so it's worth noting that in this trial, Three of the Antifa defendants actually defaulted before the trial so they will be held liable for some attacks on Andy and one and Andy also reached a settlement with one of them so this was the trial of John Hacker and Elizabeth Richter and when I showed up The defense team tried to get me banned from the courtroom since day one.
They put a gag order on Andy.
He wasn't allowed to talk to me.
I was accused every day of doing something wrong by the defense team or Antifa.
I was on a severe microscope and the judge, she said, no live streaming, no live tweeting, no live reporting.
And so it was me with either a pen and paper or a laptop, not connected to the internet.
Eight hours a day, just trying to type in what's happening, because I was essentially, I was actually the only reporter in the courtroom the entire trial, so that was great for a post-millennial to have these exclusive coverage, but I've never experienced anything like this.
I've covered trials before, and I've never had Antifa militants sitting behind me, making snarky comments, trying to read over everything that I'm writing from behind me, touching me physically during, inside the courtroom, and Disrupting the courtroom they would have these many many outbursts, but then
I feel like they were coordinating with the defense team because this one Antifa defendant, I'm not allowed to say them, the judge issued an order where you weren't allowed to publicly identify if you're a media, anyone that came to the trial.
So there were Antifa militants that came in very well known in Portland, extensive criminal records, one of them being Haley Nolan.
And she would disrupt the courtroom.
But then she was in a coordinate.
She was in coordination with the defense team.
And so the defense team would turn around and then accuse other right wing independent journalists of the disruption, which wasn't true at all.
Antifa were the only disruptors that week.
And they essentially got all independent media kicked out because of that.
So they're kicking you out of the courtroom.
Tell us, then, what happened outside the courtroom, because you tweeted something, I believe it was yesterday, about, I guess, near the elevator, where not only did this group accost you, but also the defendants themselves actually came up.
What happened in that hallway of the courthouse?
Yeah, shocking.
So there's been a lot of recesses over security threats and concerns.
So it's typical to, um, for the judge to say everybody out of the courtroom, you have to leave security.
And this was after the closing statements, the jury just started deliberating.
It was a sense of relief.
You know, I was writing my reports and I was heading down to the elevator and as I was waiting, Defendant Elizabeth Richter, she starts gunning for me in the hallway.
She is looking me deadlocked in the eyes and I go, I start panicking a little like what's happening because then two other Antifa militants join her and they just start harassing me, slandering me, calling me names.
You know, that's, it's not okay because, you know, defendant Richter, it's like, you know, a robbery.
She's on trial for a robbery, but then she's committing the crime, um, during the trial.
So she starts gunning for me and I, as I'm entering the elevator, they try getting into the same elevator as me.
And so I exit the elevator and then they start going, come in, Katie, we want you in here.
Why are you leaving?
Come on in the elevator with us.
And so they started threatening me as I was in the courtroom.
And as the Antifa defendant is on trial for threatening people, it's, It's just insane.
This trial was indescribable.
You had to have been there to really experience what happened and it's a shame that it wasn't live streamed because Andy's defense team or Andy's team put on an amazing show.
They came to this trial with evidence.
They had all of the evidence to back their claims.
And the only way that the defense team could even argue the case was to try to humanize their defendants.
So they just told stories with zero evidence backing up their claims.
And it was not the verdict that we were hoping for.
Well, and then and then, Katie.
So what then and we saw a very harrowing video after this verdict, because I remember yesterday there was a flurry of activity.
Where suddenly we get the verdict down.
Jury didn't deliberate very long.
And then you posted a video of your car.
What happened to your car while you were in that courtroom?
Right, so Antifa was very emboldened yesterday.
This case has been going on for longer than a week, and they've had threats, they've been harassing throughout the entire week, but yesterday was a different vibe.
They felt extremely emboldened, the threats increased, security measures were made way more intense, and so after the trial, when they read the verdict, it was just the most heart-wrenching feeling, and I just felt so awful for Andy.
I go outside of the courtroom, and I start writing the breaking report, And Antifa, all of them showed up outside of the courtroom and we're doing a victory lap.
And they kind of swarmed me and started, you know, F you Katie, F the post-millennial, F Andy.
It was probably one of the most chaotic environments I've ever been in.
And I can't believe that that was allowed inside a courthouse to begin with.
And after we were able to escape the courthouse, I finished my write-up at my hotel and I was like, oh, Finally, this trial is over and I go out to my car.
I was on my way to dinner, got to my car and find that all of my windows were smashed out.
So, wait a minute.
All your windows are smashed out.
That happened.
And let me ask you, was this car parked in, you know, was this near the courthouse?
Was this in front of the courthouse?
Was this, you know, somewhere where that group could have come straight from you to smash it?
Walk us through the logistics a little bit here.
Definitely.
This was actually outside of my hotel.
I you can you know, I didn't see the crime happen, but it's just too coincidental and Antifa is known to stalk and follow people and I just have a feeling that because I was at a different hotel and the trial got extended.
I moved to a hotel downtown Portland.
I was probably a mistake because if you've ever been to Portland, you just look around and everyone's Antifa in Portland.
It's the way that they act and dress and yeah, this was At my hotel, which made me even more uneasy because they were watching me and there's actually a post that someone from Antifa had made a few hours prior that said, I wonder when Katie's gonna set up a GoFundMe account.
And I didn't think anything of it.
But now it kind of makes sense that they might be taking credit for for this crime.
You know, they probably won't.
But this was Yeah, this was at my hotel.
And so I just Let me get this straight.
You got that comment or you saw a comment, I wonder if Katie's going to set up a GoFundMe account before you would even made it back to your car?
Yeah, before I've seen it hours before.
So they, I can't say for sure, but it's just too coincidental.
There's tons of, you know, the parking lot was full and my car was the only one that had windows smashed out.
And if it was a robbery, there's a couple things that were taken, but if it was a robbery, there would be multiple cars that had that.
Yes.
Yeah.
Multiple cars, but also they would have taken way more stuff out of my car that I had in there.
If that was the goal of a robbery, but they only went through my glove department and stole my vehicle title that had my address on it.
So they stole the title, but were there other items of value that were left?
Yes, there were.
I have to go through and try to figure out and document exactly what they've taken, but yeah, they definitely stole a few more other things.
I just, it's hard to, it's hard to remember exactly what I had in there.
So, well, no, I understand that obviously you're, you're going through it right now, but what I mean to say is this doesn't exactly have the hallmarks of a smash and grab operations.
It's clearly not a carjacking.
Yeah.
I can see just from the video that your, your car stereo is still there.
The radio, some of the, you know, it's like cell phone cables are on the, on the, the seat.
And so things that would be easy to grab were not grabbed.
And then, and again, all the windows were smashed rather than just one window to gain entry to the vehicle.
And so just a few basic hallmarks, Katie, we're coming up on a, on a break here.
You are.
A warrior.
A warrior for truth, a warrior for the First Amendment.
Can you stick with us into the next segment?
Because I would like to get into some more information about the trial itself and some of the issues at play here, if you're able to stick with us.
Absolutely.
All right, stay tuned, folks.
We're going to be right back.
Katie Davis Court joins us from Oregon, but not Portland, because you can't go to Portland anymore as a conservative or a journalist.
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I want to go back now to Katie Daviscourt.
Katie, walk us through some of the different elements of the trial.
Paint the picture for us.
And, you know, I mentioned earlier on the show that, you know, that same place where your car was smashed, where the courtroom was taking place, this whole area was also just a few blocks away from where The courthouse itself, the federal courthouse, was under siege for 57 nights during the George Floyd riots by these Antifa militant groups, hardly any of which actually faced any repercussions whatsoever.
And you know, Beaten on camera with video.
The charges were he was found not guilty, hacker, the first time that it was brought up.
Then he tried to sue the Rose City Antifa.
They said, oh, you can't do that because they're not an official legal entity, even though they have members, they have a website, you can't sue them.
And now finally he's trying to sue people directly.
He's been found not liable because the jury doesn't care.
So walk me through some of the players in this.
The judge, the jury, and this defense lawyer who, according to your reporting, decided to proclaim to the court, I am Antifa.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
So the, the judge, she, I thought that she would be more, um, more receptive to Andy Ngo's team.
She was a very kind woman and she was actually a refugee from Laos.
And but she was appointed by progressive, the former governor Kate Brown, and she actually didn't allow critical evidence to be shown during the trial, including the infamous milkshake video that really paints the picture of this entire trial and who Antifa really is.
So the jury never got to see Andy's brutal attack by these people in Blacklock, who Hacker and Richter both said that they were on the ground that very same day.
And they didn't necessarily that they witnessed the attack, but they've seen video and they are a part of Rose City Antifa.
And so that was never shown to the jury.
And speaking of the jury, it's really hard to describe exactly who these people are.
They were some of them had told when when the jury selection was happening, some of them had told that they knew who Andy was through mainstream media and they were still allowed to be on the beyond the jury team.
And but it was a it was a it was a combination of elderly people and younger looking people.
It was a pretty good job.
They definitely weeded out the ones that showed up in the beginning that were said that they were basically Antifa.
So that was good.
You know, you want a fair trial on all sides.
So the ones that said that they were conservative are also left out of being on the jury team.
But they, I don't know, you know, they don't even talk after and their identities, identities were sealed after because on Friday, they raised concerns to the judge that They were worried about being doxed and said that people have been trying to find out their identities online and even approach them outside of the courthouse.
And so that that's grounds for almost a mistrial in itself.
But also they were afraid.
And during the defense, the defense lawyer, Michelle Burrows, during her closing statement, she said, you know, her goal was to paint Antifa as this social justice, civil rights, activist, progressive group that
Feeds the homeless and provides jail support which is what Richter said she Richter the defendant said on trial that she is a single mom and in her spare time provides jail support to criminals or what she called community aid where she will give them socks and clothing and she doesn't have a job but yeah the entire
Argument from the defense was that Antifa isn't this terrorist group that attacks people they are the civil justice freedom fighters and you know, Michelle Burroughs said Resistance has never been peaceful and then she goes I am Antifa and after this trial I'm going to even wear a t-shirt that says I am Antifa.
That's how much that's how highly I think of being an antifascist and so The jury has told the judge that they are concerned about being doxed.
They're afraid.
And then Michelle looks at them in the eyes and says, I am Antifa.
And then at the end, she goes, I'm going to remember each and every one of your faces.
That is also could be considered a threat if you are concerned about this group, which she then admitted that the ones that attacked Andy, she considered to be terrorists, which the whole trial was just insane.
Um, But the main picture was, yeah.
Okay, let me ask you about that thing you just said, that jurors reported to the judge that people were trying to find out their identities online, and you're saying people actually approached them during the trial?
Is that right?
People were harassing the jury during the trial, trying to find out their true identities?
Yeah, they were trying to find out their true identities.
I don't know whether, I don't know where it happened.
That is just what was revealed to the court.
That they said that during the trial, as it was going on, people have been trying to find out their identities.
That's not coming from the right wing.
That's not coming from the right wing.
That's coming from the defendants, Hacker and Richter's side.
They're the doxxers.
They're the ones that want to try to sway the trial.
And so, yeah, they said that they were afraid of being doxxed.
And then you have defendant lawyer Michelle Burrows saying, I am Antifa to them.
And then you have them saying, her saying, I will remember your faces.
And then that was before they deliberated.
And yeah, that was, it was just extremely disheartening, the verdict, because Andy is someone that deserves justice.
Any journalist that would go through that in America deserves to have justice and He was brutally beaten and he was only beaten.
So he had the milkshake incident.
And then also in the trial was another incident that happened on May 28th of 2021, where Hacker and Richter were the first people to approach Andy.
He was reporting on event undercover and black block.
Hacker approached him and Hacker admitted to telling, um, journalists, Sergio almost says that he thought that that person there was Andy.
And then he, him and Richter both said that they talked together, but they didn't remember what they talked about, of course.
And then it led, after they approached Andy, identified him to other people, it led to Andy being brutally beaten, a series of beating, running, he's running, being chased, being tackled to the ground, being picked up, thrown against the wall, punched to the point that Sergio almost at one point ended punched to the point that Sergio almost at one point ended up breaking up the black block and saying, And then that gave Andy the opportunity to run into the 9th Hotel, hide behind the counter.
And then you see defendant Richter or you see Antifa coming.
It's a mob, an angry mob.
And they're banging on the doors saying, Andy, Andy, basically we're going to kill you, Andy.
And then Richter, you see Richter go in and she testified that she lied to security to get in and saying that she was being chased.
Just so she could confront Andy and she's seen on video.
It's her own live stream.
She's broadcasting Andy's location and Spewing more threats going saying we're gonna get you Andy You know, we're I'm going to beat you beat the F out of you this is all on video after he was brutally beaten and if he wasn't if the journalist Sergio didn't break up that attack and I consider this an attempted murder and The way he was beaten, it's just, it's so heart-wrenching to watch.
And then for the jury to see these videos and not hold any of these people accountable for these attacks on Andy, I've just, what precedent does this set?
You have free reign.
We need to get out of these cities.
Katie, we are about out of time.
Where can people go to follow you?
Thank you again, by the way.
Obviously, it's a very harrowing experience, even that you've been through.
Yes, thank you.
You can follow me at Katie Davis Court on all platforms.
And tomorrow we're going to be hosting a Twitter space on the Post Millennial to brief with the other journalists that were there.
So tune into that as well.
All right, we'll check that out tomorrow.
Make sure to share that on all the platforms.
Katie Davis Court, God bless you.
Thank you for your intrepid journalism there.
I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
Alright, Jack Pacific back live.
Washington, D.C.
America's blue cities and blue zones, they are now under occupation.
You must move out of these areas if you are in them.
And by the way, I highly suggest moving not necessarily to a red state, Move to one of these swing states, all right?
I'm talking Georgia, I'm talking Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
This is where we need people moving.
Not civil war, but a civil exodus.
This is what we need.
Rich Barris, I appreciate you holding on, man, waiting for us there while we did the live with Katie Davis Court.
We're talking about the insanity that is now Portland, but we know that the Iowa State Fair is running up this weekend, and I think in a sense that what was done to Andy Is a precursor of what will be done to Trump in some of these jurisdictions.
We know the Georgia indictment is going to be, you know, potentially next week, though, you know, a jury in Georgia might be a little bit better than that.
But D.C., we know.
We just know D.C.
is going to be what it's going to be.
New York, probably about the same.
But so so walk us through the people in Iowa.
This this anger that's palpable there.
Trump's going to be in Iowa at the state fair this weekend.
But we've seen also in the media and Some of the big name evangelical leaders from Iowa have been speaking out against Trump again.
This is something that happened in 2016.
They're looking for another go around.
Is this something that you think would play a role in him possibly not being able to do or perform well in the Iowa caucus?
You know what, Jack?
I tried to lay this out to give people a little bit of context because In 2016, it was all the same players that you hear now turning on Donald Trump.
Truthfully, we're always anti-Trump and they were unanimously behind Ted Cruz in 2016.
Yet, that was when Donald Trump, before he was a president, with a record they loved, before he ended Roe v. Wade.
And the truth is, Ted Cruz only won evangelicals by about 10 points.
At 12, depending on the exit poll, right?
So, it's not like the flock was listening to the shepherds, like Bob Vander Plaats.
He's got this reputation for being able to read the electorate in Iowa, when the truth is, normally the evangelical base just lines up behind whomever is going to win the Iowa caucuses.
There's no voodoo going on there.
He doesn't have his hand on a crystal ball.
He just got lucky.
He's about to take his first L, because no matter what he says, or these other evangelical leaders say, this time around, Trump is leading with evangelicals by the same margin that he's leading with non-evangelicals.
So, again, the reason why some of the polls in 2016 had Trump winning, but then he lost a little bit, is not because of the estimated vote preference for evangelicals.
It was that the Des Moines Register had them only at 45% of the electorate.
They ended up being over 60% of the electorate.
That wouldn't matter this time.
That's my point.
They're not listening to their shepherds, their so-called They're not listening to them for a reason.
These people have, you know, not been very consistent, Jack.
They are not, you know, consistent with their beliefs.
You want to do this?
You want to end Roe v. Wade?
Well, he ended Roe v. Wade.
What's your problem with him now?
Because in 2016, they painted him as an untested, untrustworthy, not a real conservative, probably a liberal from New York City.
That was the shtick.
That they gave those voters.
Now they know that's not true.
Even among evangelicals in Iowa who do think abortion is the number one issue, and they're even further to the right than Donald Trump, they still support Donald Trump.
So there's no way, and by the way, evangelicals, their number one issue is not these social issues like abortion and other issues.
Their number one is the economy and beating Joe Biden, beating the administrative state.
That is what they care the most about, and that and economic issues.
So I just don't this isn't going to happen.
And Rich, let me let me ask you actually ask you about that yesterday, because we saw the news yesterday out of Ohio.
There was this result on they were trying to essentially, you know, go forward with the ballot question to change this.
But, you know, we're looking at these some of these Rust Belt states and talking about the, you know, pushing for the abortion measures.
And yet this isn't the first.
I think Kentucky or no, it's Kansas.
Kansas was another time where we saw this.
You know, it wasn't able to cross the finish line.
Is this becoming is this becoming a trend for some of these states?
What's going on here?
The truth is it's always been the case that the Bob Vander Plaats of the world are general election killers.
The way that they discuss these issues is not the way, even if you find that there's common ground between some of these other voters, they don't talk the way the Bob Vander Plaats talk.
They don't talk in the same way, hold those Very draconian views, and even if they agree that abortion should be illegal, maybe, you know, six weeks is where they made DeSantis go.
That's too early for Ohio, Jack.
That's too early for Michigan.
That's too early for Pennsylvania.
Let me ask you it to you this way, and I say this as a son of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Does the Rust Belt vote the same way the Bible Belt does when it comes to social issues?
No, that's a great way to put it.
And in truth, the Iowa caucus is not even representative of the general election, the electorate in a general election in Iowa.
That's why Trump does so much better in Iowa than other Republicans.
You know, when we just pulled Iowa a couple of weeks ago, we had Trump easily carrying the state against Joe Biden.
DeSantis and Biden, tied.
Same thing with Ohio.
This is why.
And where did this fail?
Where did Issue 1 fail yesterday?
All along the Northeast, when you're looking at the map in Ohio, and you have neighboring Iowa.
When you're looking at the map in Ohio, you have Trumbull, Woods, right?
These counties that Obama carried twice, which Trump kills it in.
He relegates Democratic support to Cuyahoga and Leon, where Toledo is.
The rest of it is Trump country.
Mitt Romney?
You can overlap the Romney map with where Issue 1 failed.
So, you know, Trump counties, there's overlap between Trump voters and those who voted no yesterday.
So, again, I actually think that Republicans can do a better job talking about the issue of abortion and that the majority position is the mainstream position that the Republican Party holds.
But the problem is that some of these leaders, these never-Trump so-called religious leaders They don't talk about it correctly, and they don't speak for the majority, and they make Republicans unelectable.
And in 2022, by the way, this did on the margins hurt a lot of generically, you know, congressional Republican candidates, even some Senate candidates.
They didn't have good answers, and they were told to not really address the issue, and on the margins, it hurt them.
Coming up on the end of this show, Rich, where can people go to follow you?
peoplespundit.locals.com, Jack.
Thanks as always, brother.
Alright, and just a tag on that, Rich.
You know, people need to understand, Barack Obama won Ohio in 2012.
That's why Rich says this.
We need to understand this race.
We need to understand the Republic.
We've already lost the Republic in places like Portland.
We've already lost the Republic in many other states.
Do you want to continue losing or do you want to win?
It's a simple question.
I asked Glenn Beck that question this morning.
I'll ask you this question every single day.
Do you want to win?
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