Aug. 10, 2023 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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EPISODE 536: PREDAWN FBI RAID LEAVES ELDERLY MAN DEAD IN UTAH, DESANTIS DROPS TO 3RD
On today’s can’t miss episode of Human Events, Jack Posobiec breaks down all the breaking news with analysis on Craig Robertson, the man killed in FBI raid after threatening President Biden on social media. Poso is joined by The National Pulse’s Raheem Kassam for a riveting discussion about the Republican Primary race as well as Raheem’s prediction about Ron DeSantis coming to fruition. Jack is also joined by Oil London for a deep dive into the new book ‘Gender Madness’ and the social contagi...
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DeSantis is a failed candidate.
And you know what?
He's a failed candidate again.
He's got no personality.
I've never taught quizzes in England.
I knew you'd have a lousy question.
Well, why is that a lousy question?
Because it's not true.
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Climate change is affecting so many communities.
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Special Counsel Jack Smith has obtained warrants for Twitter to turn over former President Donald Trump's account information.
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FBI agents shot and killed a man in Utah who they say has been making violent threats against the president, Governor Newsom and other officials.
Agents killed Craig Robertson Wednesday morning, just hours before President Joe Biden's planned visit to Utah. - Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events with Jack Posobiec. just hours before President Joe Biden's planned visit to Utah.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
We are live here, Washington, D.C.
Today is August 10th, 2023.
Anno Domini.
What you just saw there was a very confusing clip recorded by a man in Provo, Utah.
6.15 a.m.
an FBI SWAT team shows up across the street at the home of his elderly neighbor in his 70s banging on the door pre-dawn raid screaming, an explosion goes off, the video cuts off.
We later find out that the man was wanted and had been under investigation by the FBI.
They had a search warrant as well as an arrest warrant.
They were coming to arrest him for threats against the president and interstate threats.
Yet if you continue to read more in the documents, they say the man was in his 70s, he attended church, that he's been under surveillance since March of this year, and that the FBI in the past had gone to his home and spoken to him and he did not respond aggressively.
What changed?
Why did the FBI decide to go and launch this predawn raid of Craig Robertson in the way that they did?
I'd like to know answers, and I'm being honest.
Did they have evidence that Craig Robinson was about to leave his home with a sniper rifle and do something that he obviously shouldn't do?
I've read the post that he made online.
If you make posts like that, you better expect a knock on your door from law enforcement, of course.
But the question is, was the pre-dawn raid by an FBI SWAT team the only way to go about this?
Federal law enforcement, national law enforcement, in this country, if we are going to have a serious conversation about this, if we're going to have a serious conversation about our relationship, then we need to understand exactly what it is that the government wants.
Because to me, and it's just my opinion, this looks like a show of force.
This looks like a message.
This looks like a message being sent to the people of this country.
Threaten us and we'll show up at your home at 6.15 in the morning and take you out.
That's what it looks like, folks.
I want more information.
I want body cams if it's out there.
I want every piece of evidence.
I want to hear those voices.
What happened?
And more importantly, why did they choose this route when they had spoken to the man before?
Raheem Kassam joins us next.
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Now, also for this episode, I wanted to bring in a good friend of the program here, good friend personally, Mr. Raheem Kassam of The National Pulse.
Raheem, thank you so much for joining us today.
Thank you for having me.
And why are you darker than me?
Well, I'm I'm darker than you today because you've been sitting inside playing FIFA for the last three weeks straight.
You're actually playing FIFA right now.
He's playing FIFA during the interview.
He's literally playing FIFA during the interview, folks.
That's that just shows you the level of commitment from from Himkosam to to the great team.
Here's the problem.
Here's the problem, Jack.
There's no football.
We're in the offseason.
And they're trying to make me watch the Women's World Cup.
And I'm like, no.
I'd rather play video games based on soccer than watch the Women's World Cup.
So these are the daily problems that I face.
The struggle is real, folks.
The struggle is absolutely real.
But Rahim, you were on the show here about two months ago.
And you told us that, in short order, something was about to happen.
You made a prediction.
And I remember being skeptical of your prediction.
So before we get into the payoff, all right, let's go through the setup.
Let's show people Rahim's prediction from June 22nd here on Human Events. - 'Cause being anti-woke is just the bottom bar, the bottom rung of the ladder of conservatism.
You know, you don't get to be celebrated because you're not a communist and not a satanist.
And that's what he's going around doing.
He's going around giving speeches and going, aren't I brilliant for not being a communist and not being a satanist?
And everyone's like, Yeah, I mean, we do expect that from you, though, mate, like, to be honest with you.
And I think this is where it's all falling down.
It's going to fall down further.
Because, you know, I don't expect Rick Scott and I don't expect Will Hurd to poll at more than 1% to 3%, and that's with a margin of error of about 3.5%.
Ron DeSantis by 10% midsummer.
from Trump, those one and three percents, they will be taking from Ron DeSantis.
Maybe I'll make another prediction right here, by the way, like the one I made when you played in the last segment, maybe I'll make another prediction.
Ron DeSantis to 10% midsummer. - Ron DeSantis by 10% midsummer.
You're wearing the same shirt right now you were in that video, weren't you?
I haven't changed.
You actually haven't changed.
So you said Ron DeSantis to 10%.
But let's go through this.
Ron DeSantis to 10% by midsummer.
You didn't say fall.
You didn't say winter.
You didn't ambiguously state this.
You actually put a time frame on it.
Ron DeSantis to 10% by midsummer.
Tell me, Rahim, as we woke up this morning, one of the big things that we always do, I've noticed that you've gotten to do it.
I do it.
Trump does it over on True Social.
We go and check the polls.
We go and check the latest numbers.
What are the latest numbers today?
Ron DeSantis on 10 percent midsummer.
It's OK.
So walk us through what what is the poll that has this?
OK, we've got it up there today.
And this poll not only Is it Rhonda Sanders 10%?
It's actually Vivek Ramaswamy 11.4%.
Rahim, how did this happen?
And not only that, how did you know that this was going to happen?
Well, look, there are a couple of things you need to bear in mind here.
The first thing to bear in mind here is you always look at the sample sizes.
There's a 2,000 person poll, which puts it at about double the sample size of most of the daily tracking polls that you get.
You then look at the margin of error.
It's the margin of error, I think, I'm just going to look it up here very quick, make sure I get the number right, 2.6%, which is smaller than most of your daily tracker polls, which have margins of error between 3.6%, 5% sometimes even.
But then the third thing actually takes away a little bit from the polls, you know, necessary credibility in this area.
That is to say that the polling company that did this poll, I don't know how you pronounce Signal, I guess, but it's spelled weird.
You have to bear in mind that Signal's VP, Brock McCleary, is actually a pollster for the Vivec campaign.
So, so Vivec's numbers, you know, you've got to take with a pinch of salt here.
But in the grand scheme of things, the trajectory is correct.
What we've been seeing in terms of the shifting of momentum really, really deeply away from Ron DeSantis since he announced his campaign, tracks with this.
And then the other thing you have to bear in mind is you're going to start seeing more data coming out like this.
It started, remember we were mid-20s, then slipped a little bit, then into the teens, then 15, then 12, now we're at 10.
It keeps going further and further down.
So, you know, you can have some skepticism about this, as I do with every data set that comes out, whether it's attached to a campaign, a PAC or independent.
And there's no real such thing as independent polling companies.
Maybe, maybe, you know, you would say Rasmussen is the closest thing you'll get to that.
But you'll start to see this number creep up more and more and you'll start to see, I think, Um, single digit midget Ron within, you know, within a couple of weeks, maybe a month's time.
And this, this represents keep in mind.
And what's amazing to me is that you've seen this latest news cycle as the FEC deadline just passed of all the, uh, the campaigns or Trump's got this much money on lawyers.
So they're moving around from this PAC to this.
But he's got a number of PACs plus the campaign.
So the money sort of goes back and forth.
Ron DeSantis has done this as well, by the way, rolling over his governor's gubernatorial campaign money, putting some of that into a super PAC.
Also taking money from, you know, that's moves from Empower Parents, just a bunch of different PACs moving back and forth.
But I've noticed that nobody ever seems to tie the spending and fundraising with the performance in polls.
Because if we're sitting here as political operatives and strategists trying to understand, well, if you're spending the money, it's not just how much money you spend.
It's what your conversion rate is.
Okay, if we spent $45 million, what is the return on investment?
Why do they never seem to tie these together?
I mean, that would be a disaster for most campaigns, if you look to that.
You'd kill the industry!
Yeah, if you look at the Trump stuff, I mean, if the argument is, oh, Trump is just spending his donations on legal defences, which by the way translates to, Trump is spending the donations fighting the deep state instead of giving it to DC-based consultants, that is what you're really saying there, but if you have a problem with that somehow, then the counterpoint also to that is, Yeah, so you're saying he hasn't spent a penny campaigning, and yet he keeps going up and solidifying his support.
You should be happy that there's a candidate out there that can do that.
You should be happy, like people were in 2016, that Donald Trump didn't need to spend $2 billion versus Hillary Clinton to defeat her, that this is the kind of candidate that you want at the top of the ticket.
And he's the kind of candidate that can drag other people who aren't so attractive over the line, as we saw with Ron DeSantis.
To be fair, there were plenty of Republicans in 2016, throughout 2016, who were not happy that that candidate was at the top of the ticket, to be fair.
But you're right.
I remember saying this actually in October of 2016 at the time.
I've never seen the Republicans so upset about winning.
I've never seen that you're spending a little amount of money.
You've actually found a candidate who can galvanize not just low-information voters or non-engaged voters, low-propensity voters.
Rahim, we saw—we had a polling data point out yesterday that actually said Trump is outperforming with non-registered Americans.
So they were able to actually poll Americans who are non-registered and find—these are your—who are they?
They're watching UFC.
They're listening to podcasts.
These are all the things that Trump does.
There are also people who are aware of Trump just because of his own celebrity and notoriety.
Trump is winning with them as well.
This is why a candidate like that on paper doesn't necessarily capture, if you're only looking at sort of a political resume, you're not capturing the full scope of what I think it is that you're talking about here.
Yeah, that's right, and in response to your tweet from earlier on, where you said that I came on the show two months ago and predicted the latest numbers that we're seeing now, I put a poll up of my own, which has 501 votes now, and the question was, which was more successful, Ukraine's counter-offensive or Ron DeSantis' reset?
And I'm pleased to report exclusively here on Human Events that 77% of people responded that Ukraine's counteroffensive was more effective than Ron DeSantis' reset.
So, I mean, yeah, we can laugh about it and I will keep laughing about it.
The reason I will keep laughing about it is because I predicted all of this going back to last January, not this January 2023.
January 2022, I did a podcast about this and DeSantis' world and how this would end up.
And everything has come to pass.
It's so obvious.
Remember, the people staffing DeSantis' campaign are the people who couldn't get jobs in the Trump administration when the only person they were going up against for the job was Omarosa.
So what does it tell you about those people?
Rahim, we've got a minute left.
I know you've got to run.
Where can people go to get your, not just reporting, but how do they also get your analysis on the national polls?
Is there an extra step that they need to perform?
You should ask Jack.
There is actually an extra step.
At thenationalpulse.com, people will find that I do editor's notes on stories where I kind of read people into this stuff.
It is a premium feature.
We call it the Pulse Plus.
It comes with a whole bunch of other features as well on the site.
But if you want to be weeks, months, sometimes even years ahead, as you and I both were, let's say, on the Hunter Biden laptop stuff, thenationalpulse.com is where you need to go.
Folks, you gotta go there.
By the way, I'll give one for free for folks.
Today on your editor's note on the article that you wrote about what we're talking about here was just, I told you.
Two words.
Told you.
There you go, folks.
Raheem Kassam there.
What can I say?
Called the shot, made the shot.
Next, joining us here, Human Events, Ali London.
He's got a new book coming out that you need to get.
Hey, you know, you talk about influences.
These are influences.
And, uh, they're friends of mine.
Jack?
- Jack Posobiec, where's Jack?
Jack, he's done a great job. - All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back here, Washington, D.C., Jack Posobiec live in studio.
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Folks, joining us right now live here in a massive Washington, D.C., the palatial Human Events Real America's Voice Studio in Washington, D.C., we have commentator, writer, and now author, Ali London.
Ollie, thanks for joining us.
Great to be here at the studio.
Nice to see you, man.
So you've got a copy.
The last time we had you on, you were working, you were feverishly writing away.
You write on a typewriter, right?
Well, on a computer, but... Oh, I thought... Was it a little bit of typewriting?
A little bit?
I mean, that's a bit old-fashioned, but not bad.
Once in a while, once in a while, I've got the cigarette dangling, you know?
Yeah, the cigar hanging out.
Late at night with the candle, right?
Yes, that's right.
No incandescent or none of that LED stuff, just here in the studio.
Tell us about, and let's put the book up so folks can see it, tell us about your new book, Gender Madness, and I believe it comes out next week, right?
It's out literally in four days.
Four days!
Oh, let's go!
Let's go!
You know, this book is actually exposing everything that's going on right now, Jack.
So we have the gender ideology being pushed on children in schools, on social media apps like TikTok and Instagram, and it's being pushed really hard.
Then this Pride season, we saw it pushed like never before.
The Target Pride collection for children, Can I just say something about that, Target?
So my wife, who, and everyone knows Tanya Tay, she's on Twitter, etc.
We've had her on the show a million times, but she doesn't follow the politics and certainly not these issues on a regular, you know, insane level basis like I do.
You're on Twitter a ton, by the way.
You cover a ton of stories.
Addicted to Twitter.
So she doesn't have that, is what I'm saying.
She's not a news junkie, right?
She will not set foot in a Target.
She will not set foot in there.
She said, I'm boycotting it.
I will not set foot in Target.
And I said, until when?
She goes, I don't know, ever.
I don't know, ever.
She has been completely turned off to Target in a way that I've never seen her really for any, we don't drink.
So Bud Light doesn't, doesn't really come up, but I've never seen this Target thing has her switched off in a way that I've never seen.
And yeah, I agree.
I mean, I've seen, you know, thousands of parents go online and they're not normally vocal about these things.
And they say, look, this is the red line because you're pushing this on kids.
And that's the red line that's upset everybody in the last few years.
Because, you know, before people were just living their life.
Now it's being pushed in schools.
You have kindergartners learning about sex education, LGBT books in school libraries.
And it's wrong to push that on kids when kids are so easily impressionable.
So the fact you have like Target and it was in the main section as you walked in the store in most of the stores.
It's targeting kids on purpose and it's wrong to do that because kids are easily susceptible to these ideas.
Look at all the movies these days with all the non-binary characters.
You had the Disney Pixar's Elementor with a non-binary gas object or whatever, and you have the Transformers pushing non-binary stuff.
So it's targeting kids on purpose, and it's wrong to do that because kids are easily susceptible to these ideas.
In the domestic?
Yes, it's actually correct.
I'm fact-checking myself in real time.
Domestic box office here, so that's just U.S.
Sound of Freedom has beaten both Transformers and Elemental.
$166 million to $157 million and $149 million for Elemental.
Elemental didn't even do that well here in the United States.
It was beaten, and Transformers, massive franchise obviously, Both beaten by Sound of Freedom.
Sound of Freedom just edged out Transformers, it looks like, just in the few days since I've checked this.
So you've got, I think that ties into what you're talking about because we've talked about so many times the power of Sound of Freedom as a film, but I also think that because it came out on the 4th of July, immediately after this That it became sort of a form of protest of that for people to go see Sound of Freedom.
And I know they're not directly linked, but I think in a spiritual and just metaphysical way, there is a connection there.
Yeah I think people want to take a stand and that's one way of doing it is supporting movies that are actually trying to help children and expose dark forces like child trafficking and it's fantastic that the movie has done so well despite the mainstream media trying to pass it off as a conspiracy theory because it's not, it's actually happening.
So I think that's one reason and the fact we saw, you know, Target lose billions, Bud Light lose up to 26 billion from Anhusa Bush.
I think it's showing that the consumer is trying to take back control because, you know, people don't want to cancel things but we're doing it because it's for the kids.
So, you know, showing support for Sound of Freedom as opposed to going to see one of these woke films really does show you that people have had enough.
They've had enough of this targeting kids and they want to speak up and, you know, Make a decision.
As consumers, we all have the power to influence what brands do.
If we stop buying Bud Light, which has happened now, they're going to have to change their policies now.
They're putting horses back in the adverts and trying to win back those consumers, but it's way too late for them.
I'm from the Philadelphia area.
We grew up going to the Devon Horse Show.
This is one of the largest horse shows or equestrian expositions anywhere on the East Coast.
And one of the, the pinnacle of every horse show was when the Budweiser Clydesdales come in and everybody makes sure you, and even as a kid, you know, we've been going to volunteer there, it benefits the local hospital, and we've been going to volunteer since I was two years old.
And so you want to go and look at the Clydesdales, these beautiful, enormous Scottish horses, you know, these draft horses.
And Budweiser, they're flying the American flag.
They've got the Dalmatian.
Everybody loves it.
And so to take that and then turn it into this, you know, juxtapose it with all of this stuff is, I think, is crazy to people.
Certainly crazy from a brand equity position.
And even we were at the horse show again this year, and they had the Clydesdales and they did it, but we noticed it was kind of diminished.
And then they were in a stable that was sort of like away from, you know, everybody else.
And even they are clearly feeling the brunt of this.
So tell us more about how do you break down in the book the force?
What is behind this?
Why are people doing this when there's obviously an effect on their own bottom lines?
I talk a lot about this in the book.
So you have obviously the DEI, Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, the Corporate Equality Index, which basically measures a company on how woke they are.
So, you know, a lot of these companies have the same investors, BlackRock or Vanguard.
So they are the ones pushing these policies.
And, you know, these policies like something like Bud Light has, you know, the most ridiculous partnership with Dillard Mulvaney, which doesn't match with what the consumers want, right?
Like you'd want a cowboy or something with a horse.
So The fact that they pushed that and they took that loss and other companies are still pushing this wokeness shows that it's the investors behind this.
Do you think, here's an interesting question that I've actually spoken to a few people about this offline, but do you think, so Larry Fink, right, he's the head of BlackRock, he's totally invested in ESG even though he's publicly admitted at this point that there's been a backlash to it.
Do you think that he actually believes it, or is it just about money for him?
Because he's got money, right?
So what is driving him?
Is this a true belief, you know, or is it something else?
Because I've heard a good theory recently, and this is, Neil Howe writes this out in The Fourth Turning, where he says that it's something where you get these liberal baby boomers, And they have a tendency to just believe in the goodness and the morality of their actions.
That got me thinking about Larry Fink.
Does this guy actually believe it?
Well, you know, if these companies and investors actually believed that they would actually, you know, for instance, Pride, they would actually try and make that a thing in Saudi Arabia, right?
They'd actually, you know, because you notice Pride Month, all of these companies, they all change their logos, it's the Pride, Chevrolet, Ford, except in the Middle East.
So, you know, if they actually cared, they would actually go and invest that money in places where they needed these rights.
Yeah, Mercedes-Benz and Volkswagen.
Don't ask about what we were doing in the 1930s!
No, no, no.
Exactly.
So, you know, it's clearly virtue signalling.
It's about, you know, trying to say, oh, we're inclusive, we're woke.
But, you know, they've took it too far now.
This DEI and CEI has took it way too far then that it's actually turning consumers away.
And we're seeing these brands losing, you know, billions and billions of dollars.
And I don't think Bud Light's ever going to recover.
They've just, you know, announced they have to lay off 400 staff.
They have to close some distilleries down.
I don't think they're going to recover, but I think these people in power have woken up.
I know BlackRock said recently they're going to change and look into their DEI policies, but they could just be saying that and they might just try to push it covertly underneath the surface.
But I think thanks to the consumers fighting back recently, I think these companies have had an awakening and think maybe we have taken this too far.
Because at the end of the day, all they care about is money, right?
So if they're losing money...
Right, because you've got at some point, and you know, Simon & Schuster was just bought by a hedge fund, for example, and that's another great point where book sales have been down, other than really, actually, conservative books have been doing great.
I hope your book does very well, and everyone needs to go and pre-order a copy of it right now, and then get ready for when it comes out in, what, four days?
Yes, four days.
But at the same time, You know, I would hope that a publishing house like Simon & Schuster would start to realize that, you know, you don't have to just publish the books that your woke millennial, you know, agents want pushed.
You could actually just push books to audiences that people will like.
And you know what?
That means you can publish liberal books and far-left books.
And right-wing books, too, and middle-of-the-road books, as well.
It's fine, because there's going to be a market.
And if you are a company and you're trying to make money, that's what they should follow.
We've got a minute left.
We have another segment with you, though, right?
Yes.
We've got one more segment.
All right, we've got one minute left.
Another segment here.
Ollie London joining us here, Washington, D.C.
It's amazing.
I appreciate you being Thank you, thanks for having me in person as well.
This is great to do it in person, and folks, really, we need to understand that this madness is truly a madness, and in the next segment, I'm going to talk to Ollie about how this madness can affect people, and I'm going to ask you about your personal story as well, to explain what it's like when you are caught in the madness, because you might be out there as a parent, as a mom or a dad,
A grandparent and you might be or have someone in your life that's currently caught in it that you're praying to get them out of it.
Ollie's got an answer for you.
for you.
We're going to have it when we come back next.
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All right, we are back here.
Jack Posobiec live in Washington, DC, continuing our interview with Ali London, the author of the new book, Gender Madness.
And here's the question that I have.
So, Ollie, we... I'll just put it this way.
I'm not even going to say we.
I know someone who's not in my family, but in my extended orbit, who has a liberal relative.
that has chosen to raise their six-year-old little boy as a girl.
I can tell you for a fact, and by the way, I don't care if she's listening, this is driven by the mother.
This is almost 100% driven by the mother.
But the dad has been so pushed down that he won't respond, he won't stand up, and they continue to do this.
You've also got instances where if someone's like, and I know you've done work with Chloe Cole that we've also had on the show, you know, talk about going through this as a teenager.
What do you do with a situation like that when someone you know is caught in the gender madness, when someone is caught in it themselves?
Talk about your own experience and when you get lost in those woods, how do you find the way out?
Well, that's a great question because a lot of people do get lost and, you know, a lot of kids go through phases.
You know, you get a lot of girls that might be tomboys.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
And, you know, we had that 20 years ago, but we weren't chopping off their body parts or giving them hormones, right?
So this is a very new phenomenon that's happening.
My two-year-old spends half of each day as a cat going around saying, you know.
Right, so you don't, you know, give them a tail, a surgical tail or anything.
No, no, I've not given him whiskers and ears.
Yeah, and we do see, yeah, you've got a mix between parents that generally want to transition their kids and it's oftentimes white middle class parents.
It seems to be... How did you know?
It seems to be a thing with them, you know, because they've got too much time on their hands.
They've got the luxury of, you know, they've got money.
So they just want almost to be special.
They want their kid to be special.
So you have that.
And you also have the other side where parents generally are confused.
And, you know, doctors or teachers might be saying, oh, your kid is trans and the kid at the time may feel that way.
But, you know, the parents, like Chloe Cole's parents, they took her to the doctor and the doctor said, you have to transition her, otherwise you're going to have a dead child, basically.
So that's... She told us that.
So that's a tactic they use.
That was a heavy, an extremely heavy episode.
But, you know, I would just say, based on, you know, my personal experience struggling with gender identity, we all go through phases where we're trying to discover ourselves, especially kids and teens.
You know, some days they might want to be a cat or a pirate or a dinosaur but it doesn't mean we should be changing them or putting them on harmful hormones and puberty blockers.
So the best case scenario is to, you know, keep an eye out for these warning signs.
Maybe the school is indoctrinating the children and suddenly they're talking about pronouns and being trans.
So parents need to be aware of what's going on and in a situation where you have, for instance, a mother transitioning the kids and the father's against it, the father needs to stand up and be a man and just say, look, enough is enough.
This is our child.
Regardless of what the mother might want, you have to let this kid grow up into an adult and only adults can consent to things because kids can't consent.
They can't drink alcohol.
They can't smoke.
So kids cannot consent to an irreversible sex change.
I think parents need to wake up and, you know, there are tomboys, there are boys that are a bit more feminine, and that's okay, but just let kids be kids.
And so the idea though then is, so what do you do though, right?
So a Chloe Cole situation where the parents are being told by the doctors, they can tell something's wrong with their child, and I remember when I interviewed her, I'm thinking about that as a dad myself, If I could tell there was something emotionally wrong with my son, and then the doctor's telling me, okay, this is what you need to do or he might kill himself.
The idea of having a child commit suicide, it's horrifying.
It's actually horrifying.
And do I think I'd ever go in for that?
No, probably not.
But I can understand, and I can certainly understand for parents that are hearing this.
What do you do then in that situation?
Do you stand up to the doctor?
Do you try to pull them out of school?
What is the way to sort of, I guess, get through to the individual?
Well, that happens a lot with parents, you know, because the doctors at the end of the day, they're trying to make money from this.
So there's a lot of money to be made in putting kids on prescriptions for the rest of their life and surgeries.
And, you know, doctors tend to use these coercion tactics to basically threaten the parents that your kid's going to commit suicide.
And, you know, a lot of these kids do have severe mental health struggles.
They have depression.
Some of them already have suicidal tendencies.
So, you know, if you're suddenly putting someone that's already got these pre-existing conditions and You know, these kids are six times more likely to be autistic.
You're basically misdiagnosing these children.
You're basically saying, oh, you're trans.
That's the reason you're feeling like this.
Let's get you on some hormones.
I mean, actually, if they actually helped these kids for treating the autism, the ADHD, bipolar, depression, if they actually treated that and helped the kids with that, You'd find a lot of these problems would be managed and much better.
So I think it's a lot of misdiagnosing these kids.
And parents just want the best for their kids, right?
Most parents do.
And they see this as a quick fix.
Oh, if we transition our kid, they're going to be happy in six months.
We don't have to worry about them.
But really, doctors should be treating the pre-existing conditions that these kids have.
So how about then, how about if it's someone like yourself, obviously over the age of consent, over 18, have the ability to make these decisions, what would you say to folks like that that really are wrestling with this?
Well, it's a really tough thing because look, I've grappled with gender dysphoria and it's a really difficult struggle.
And look, there are adults that may have felt this way their whole life, but there's also right now a social contagion.
So we're seeing people suddenly becoming trans and it's not something they thought about before because it's a trend, because it's pushed on, you know, TikTok and through the entertainment industry.
So I would just warn adults, you know, don't rush into things because we're seeing now adults Just one consultation, like is the case with Elliot Page, who's, you know, Ellen Page, the actress.
Right, right, right.
You could say it here, you're fine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're not going to ban you.
I get so confused with the names and pronouns and stuff, but, you know, they said that they had a psychotic breakdown and they had voices inside their head before they called the doctor.
They called the doctor and immediately booked for a breast, you know, cutting off their breast, basically.
Double mastectomy.
And that's an adult.
So I think, you know, doctors have a duty to care for patients and they shouldn't be fast-tracking even adults.
You know, I think adults need to have a number of years of consultations and stuff.
I don't think it's a good thing because at the end of the day I think there's better ways of treating people that are struggling with things but, you know, adults are adults at the end of the day.
I think you can only advise them best and I think a lot of adults are pushed into it without informed consent, without knowing the true horrors.
Well, and that what you said right there is perfect because and this this comes up with within the vaccine debate.
This comes up in so many areas.
It's informed consent.
It's it's an understanding a true understanding of what the ramifications of some of these decisions might be some of these.
Uh, procedures that may be, and I'm not just talking about the hormones, but, but, but physical procedures that may be completely irreversible.
And I, and I know as strange as that sounds, it doesn't seem as though people actually consider that because a lot of it, and I think you talked about this last time I, when I had you on, uh, with the special where that they're getting this, they're caught in this feedback loop on social media.
Um, tell me about the social media feedback loop.
And I know, I'm sure this is in the book.
Yeah, so there's a lot of this in about the book because it is a social media generation we're living in right now and we're seeing a lot of generations that are struggling with their identity and they're thinking that this is a fix their problems or even a way to feel special and validated.
So, you know, you see someone, for instance, on TikTok when they're showing their transition, they start off maybe doing a little makeup and the hair extension.
This is like the biggest thing on TikTok now, the transition story.
- Right, and TikTok's the one pushing it.
And every time they show an update of their progress, changing their gender, they get more and more comments, more and more views and likes. - And you're getting that dopamine reward for this, which totally supported by the Chinese Communist Party, because if they wanted to turn it off, they could.
But you end up putting out something like this and it goes viral.
And then what?
Because I've seen, for research purposes, Dylan Mulvaney's TikTok, right?
And you can tell that even on there, she, he, I don't even remember at this point, is constantly doing, it's chasing the dragon.
This is the same thing that addicts do when it's when it's heroin or cocaine, because you're chasing the dragon of that next dopamine hit from retweets.
Look, I've certainly fallen into that with myself when it comes to social media.
And you do you do some stunt, you do something that goes big.
And then you're there.
How do I top that?
Right.
How do I stop that?
I'm going to jump into ice.
I'm going to jump into a river.
I'm going to do whatever it is.
Right.
But now, instead of, you know, just just high risk activities, you're performing high risk actions to yourself.
Yeah, and it's not just to themselves, it's actually projecting that onto their audience.
So we have to think that around 30% of TikTok users in the United States are under 18.
So teens are seeing this and thinking it's normal.
And like you said, people have to outdo themselves on social media.
So Dylan Mulvaney, one day he'll claim to be a lesbian, the next day he's claiming to be pregnant or doing tampons.
He has to have that shock value.
in order to retain his audience and keep the money rolling, basically.
So we're seeing a lot of influences.
They have to outdo themselves, and that's why you see them injecting testosterone, hormones, sharing their trans journey, because it is about attention.
And a lot of these kids, they're just looking for attention.
They're not getting it maybe at home or at school or whatever.
They just want attention and validation.
So they're turning to social media, and they're turning to their latest trend, which is being non-binary.
It's not just kids, even Wayne Brady apparently.
Wayne Brady.
They got Wayne Brady, folks!
Comes out as pan yesterday.
Olly London, the book is Gender Madness.
Go and pre-order it.
Where can people follow you?
Where can people get more information on your journey and your work?
So I'm very vocal on Twitter.
I post a lot of research about these trans stories and detransitions on Olly London TV and the book is going to be really informative and educational.
It's available on Amazon, Walmart, Barnes & Nobles right now and I just think the book and my Twitter is the way to get the facts about the transitioning and why we shouldn't be doing this to kids and how we can fight up for parents.
All right, Oli, I appreciate it.
I know you've got to run.
You're heading out to Tim Pool for tonight, right?
Yes, can't wait for that.
All right, so catch him on TimCast later tonight.
Thank you so much for your work.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, Jack.
Appreciate it.
Thank you.
And that's for you as well.
All right.
I'm always listening to Human Events with Jack Posobiec.
So, Jack Posobiec, welcome back, folks.
We're here live, Washington, D.C.
Got a copy.
Ollie was so nice to give me a copy of Gender Madness here.
We're going to take that home.
But I saw a tweet right now, just this completely idiotic tweet from Philip Wegman.
I think he's at Real Clear Politics.
Is that right?
Yeah, Real Clear News.
Just he's at the White House.
And Philip does great work.
But this tweet, I'm sorry, it's It's so dumb.
It's just so it's one of the dumbest things I've seen and let me explain.
So it says the GOP primary frontrunner on this day was Romney in 2011 with 5 plus 5 Giuliani in 2007 with plus 10 Trump in 2015 with plus 11 today Trump in 2023 leads by 39.1.
2015 with plus 11.
Today Trump in 2023 leads by 39.1.
Okay, so let me break down what's wrong with Phil's tweet.
And we're gonna help Philip out because we like to help people here on the show.
Oli's here.
Oli, obviously, he's been through a lot, but he's trying to help people, and we're going to try to help people, too.
This is a quantitative analysis of the primary as it currently stands.
But there's no qualitative analysis here.
And look, I get real clear politics is going to have the real, real clear average because that's what they do.
But where is the qualitative analysis?
Where's the qualitative analysis of the Mitt Romney campaign in 2011, Giuliani in 2007, Trump in 2015, or the ability of those voters to connect with their candidates?
Mitt Romney was up, but he was not a widely supported candidate.
He was just sort of the default candidate in 2011.
I didn't vote for him in 2012.
I didn't vote for McCain in 2008 either.
So yeah, was he up?
Sure.
But what's the qualitative analysis?
Giuliani, 2007.
I think I voted for Giuliani in that primary, now that I think about it.
Yeah, I did vote for Giuliani in that primary in Pennsylvania.
Well, in 08.
And then you had Trump in 2015 as an insurgent candidate.
The quality of an insurgency.
And so, I guess what I would say is, we look at the numbers a lot.
We had Rahim Kassam talk about the numbers.
But then Rahim also told you where the numbers were going to go.
And he was able to predict it with specificity.
And give you a time frame as to exactly when we would start to see these numbers for DeSantis, for Trump, everyone else.
But why?
If you are not conducting a qualitative analysis of candidates, of the candidate's connection to an audience, of the candidate's connection to the base, of what the base wants, of where the bases Priorities are.
Then you're gonna lose.
So this is a great example of Iowa right now because I saw a poll this morning.
Trump up by 43 in Iowa.
Or excuse me, Trump up by 26 in Iowa.
43 was, um, was New Hampshire.
Blame it on last.
Up by 23 in Iowa.
Almost 30 points.
26, almost 30 points.
Why?
Why?
And we had the question yesterday with Richard Barris, and he's had these evangelical leaders like Bob Vander Plaats, never Trumper, Bob Vander Plaats, who was against Trump all the way through the election in 2016.
Why?
If he's out there saying Donald Trump is not an evangelical, he's not a good guy, he's used bad words, he's got mean tweets, And yet he's winning poll after poll after poll.
Why?
Doesn't make any sense, right?
If you look at it that way.
Because he's got his priorities out.
Because this country has gotten to a place where we are not looking for a moderate centrist to be president.
We are not interested in having a policy debate right now.
That's not where the people are.
Where the people are The people are upset.
The people are angry.
The people can feel the system crashing all around them.
Every system, whether it's the economy, whether if you just want to go on an airplane ride somewhere, and then your flight gets delayed, and then you can't rebook it, and then you miss the trip, and you're out in thousands of dollars, etc., etc.
Why does it feel like we are in a state of collapse?
Well, here's a clue.
Because we're in something called the fourth turning.
Wars are breaking out.
There was an assassination in Ecuador yesterday of a right-wing candidate.
Why is there so much instability?
Why are so many of these things falling apart?
Because we are entering the crisis phase.
The crisis phase is now.
And when you are in a crisis phase, it is not time for the Marquess of Queensbury Republicans.
It is not time for the peacetime Robert's Rules of Order conservatives.
You need wartime conservatives.
You need people who understand that this is not about sitting down and having an argument over Your talking points on a tax policy.
You've got one side that's willing to use political and legal warfare against their opponents.
Republicans are arguing about whether or not The Joe Biden, Hunter Biden stuff is real and Democrats are locking up their opponents.
They've arrested Trump three times and they're going to do it again.
What?
Not tomorrow, but next week in Georgia.
Fannie Willis sitting down there.
Understand what time it is.
And if you understand what time it is, and you respond to that, if you respond to that by meeting the moment, by giving people an understanding that you are the fighter that will step into the arena, do what needs to be done, and move forward as a country, then maybe we can hand the reins over to a policy guy.
Then you can rebuild.
Because whichever side wins in this crisis period will set the stakes for the next 40 to 50 years.
The next generation of America.
The next regime.
The new American Republic will be run by the side that wins in this crisis.
Now who do you want that to be?
It's a simple question.
Because the FBI is rolling up.
No knock war aids.
Pre-dawn raids.
Pro-lifers.
Seniors.
Locking up if you're anywhere near.
If you sneeze too hard on January 6th, you get locked up.
That's where the FBI's at.
That's federal law enforcement breathing down your neck.
If you're too Catholic, you're praying a little too hard, they're sending informants into your church.
