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THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 2 — Titanic Tragedy, GOP Women Hotter?, Musk/Zuck Cage Match, CNN Fact-Checked, DWR

In this latest THOUGHTCRIME featuring Jack Posobiec, Charlie Kirk, Andrew Kolvet, and Blake Neff, we explore the day's wildest news, from the Titan sub disaster to a possible Elon Musk/Mark Zuckerberg cage fight. Then, the crew dives deep into the hidden bowels of the web.THOUGHTCRIME will stream LIVE exclusively on Rumble, every Thursday night at 8pm ET.Support the Show.

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	Okay, welcome to episode two of ThoughtCrime.
	We are here in Phoenix, Arizona.
	I assume you know who I am.
	communications of everyone.
	They're collecting your communications.
	Okay, welcome to episode two of Thought Crime.
	We are here in Phoenix, Arizona.
	I assume you know who I am.
	My name is Charlie Kirk.
	Blake Neff made the rounds on the interwebs today. - Okay.
	Jack Posobiec is my co-host.
	Jack, how you doing?
	I'm doing better than the United States Navy right now.
	Well, we're going to let you dive into the conspiracy theory.
	And Andrew is here.
	Now, mind you, this is not a show like any other.
	These are thought crimes.
	So we will talk about some of the news of the day.
	This is where we go a level deeper.
	This is where we talk about smoke detectors.
	Does physiology tell you anything in regards to politics?
	And did J.P.
	Morgan intentionally sabotage the Titanic?
	But most importantly, Jack, you want to catch our audience up to speed on the U.S.
	Navy and this Titanic sub.
	What's going on?
	Yeah, so just a few moments before this story or before we went live and everyone heard, of course, this afternoon that The debris field and some of the major portions of this submarine submersible.
	Actually, it's not a submarine because it's not an independent independent driver under the ocean was found.
	The people had been killed.
	It looked like there had been a catastrophic event.
	And then some of us look, I was in the U.S.
	Navy.
	I worked in sonar for a little bit.
	And I remember thinking that it was more likely that there hadn't been a catastrophic event because the U.S.
	Navy hadn't said anything.
	And there's, of course, this multimillion dollar Rescue effort underway the global Hail Mary Daily Mail is all talking about it Well, we just got from the Wall Street Journal and now it's it's in ABC.
	It's in Fox News.
	It's everywhere They're all telling us that actually know the US Navy did pick this up on one of the Sosis arrays That's laid out there on the seabed in the Atlantic These are the sub trackers that we've had out since World War two looking for originally would have been u-boats But now Russian subs all throughout the entire Cold War Uh, people are saying, Oh, those are classified, et cetera.
	It's like they're, they have a Wikipedia page, right there.
	It's not exactly the biggest secret in the world.
	And so they heard this thing on Sunday, the U S Navy knew about this.
	Um, people like Dan Crenshaw were out there.
	Um, credit where it's due Dan Crenshaw has been tweeting up a storm saying, you know, it seems like the coast guard isn't putting its most Capable devices, most capable vessels out on this.
	They have stuff that's very easy to recover people.
	They haven't put it out yet.
	Why is it still sitting in dock?
	They're telling people there's a search area the size of Connecticut, but that's not what my sources are saying.
	Right.
	So Crenshaw is a huge W for him.
	But why would they lie about it?
	Well, the significant, I mean, I suppose there are a couple of reasons, but I can certainly think, I mean, you might say, all right, we were not sure it could have been another submersible that exploded underwater at the exact same time that this went under.
	But of course, that's obviously quite farfetched.
	There was only one known to be operating in the area.
	We haven't heard any information about other submersibles in the area.
	But obviously this came at a week that was full of horrible news for President Biden, particularly related to his son.
	They had a huge plea deal that he had to know was coming down.
	These charges that they knew were coming down, they were in the final stages.
	And then today there was a whistleblower that came out on Hunter Biden.
	And look, I'm not usually one of those people who say, why are we focused on one story because it's a distraction from something else?
	That's...
	That's like the last thing I ever say.
	Jack, I gotta make sure I understand.
	And Blake, feel free to be my sidekick in the devil's advocate.
	I'll be the devil on your shoulder.
	Thank you.
	So I just wanna make sure I understand the theory of Jack.
	So you're trying to say that Joe Biden received the U.S.
	Navy intelligence and said, let's hold on this to create unnecessary suspense as a multi-day psyop so that people won't talk about my son, Blake.
	Well, I guess we should confirm that's what he... Well, Jack, I called on Blake.
	Go ahead.
	Well, I find that pretty unlikely.
	I just think that's a level of micromanagement that is pretty unlikely in the news.
	And if anything, it's our own fault.
	Like, if you go to Fox News, they're still leading with all of the sub stuff.
	And if we... I think we allow ourselves to As people who consume a lot of news, I think it's way too easy for us to assume any story that's on the news has to be somehow related to any other story.
	And just, as someone who's worked in the news before, it doesn't really work that way.
	It's hard enough covering everything without trying to, like, decide, oh, we need to push this story to distract from this story or to complement this story.
	It just doesn't really work that way.
	Is there another explanation, Jack?
	They were just waiting for debris and confirmation?
	They didn't want to be wrong?
	Right now, well, Blake, we're not talking about the media's focus on the story.
	We're talking about the government withholding information.
	So what you're saying is the media decided to run with.
	Of course, you're going to run with this.
	This is one of those stories.
	It's human interest.
	It's like a kid being caught in the well.
	It's like minors in Argentina or Chile.
	It's like the cave in in Thailand that even Elon Musk famously got involved in a couple of years back.
	There's a movie about this.
	My point is, though, is that there was credible information from Sunday.
	that this thing had suffered a catastrophic implosion within a couple hours of even knowing that it was lost.
	And that information was withheld.
	And we get these drips and drabs from, again, official sources saying, oh, we're hearing taps every 30 minutes.
	Oh, it's the size of Connecticut, et cetera, et cetera, while they were sitting on this information all along.
	Well, I think Charlie's point is a good one, which is just that if they're coming out with that, they're essentially saying, we believe they're dead.
	And they may have wanted to find debris to make it more of a confirmed thing so they don't rob people of hope while there is still at least some hope out there.
	And I think you'll see that.
	You'll see that with other stories if you pay attention.
	Sometimes they'll delay before they release really downbeat information.
	So the more interesting part of this, though, that I want to dive into is Blake, you lived through Titanic mania.
	Dive into?
	We'll dive into, how many puns can we use?
	To go underneath, to dive into, to submerge ourselves into, to make sure we can handle the pressure of the story.
	How many other puns can we type in?
	Make sure you subscribe to us on Rumble.
	Subscribe.
	That's a good one.
	But Blake, you lived through the Titanic mania, and now it's back, by the way, right?
	It's back.
	It's back to the max.
	And so I think the movie is average at best.
	I don't think it's a very good film at all, and I think that's a thought crime.
	Do we have the song?
	Which I think is one of the most overrated scenes in movie history.
	I don't think Leonardo DiCaprio is that good of an actor.
	I think he gets better throughout his career.
	I think he whines too much in this movie.
	Yeah, let's play it.
	Put the sound on.
	All right.
	You got to keep it going.
	You just gotta... No, I... How much longer?
	Keep it going.
	No, no, no.
	You just gotta keep it... Uh-huh.
	Is this Celine Dion?
	Oh, it is.
	I think it is.
	What?
	Oh, yes, it is.
	Yeah, Celine Dion, right?
	I didn't even Google that.
	That was just from memory.
	That's impressive, right?
	I'm cultured.
	You just gotta let it go until you just want to pound the table.
	I've been there for a while.
	Alright, we're good.
	Okay, so... Andrew, do you have strong opinions about the Titanic film?
	You know, I'm old enough to have lived through it as well, and it was unlike any other movie in my lifetime.
	It really was.
	I mean, the thing was in theaters for weeks and weeks and weeks.
	Honestly, I'm a little sad that, you know, this generation will never experience, I think, a movie like that because it, I mean, I'm not a huge fan of the movie.
	I'm going to be really honest with you.
	Jack let go.
	I agree.
	You know, she let go of Jack.
	Jack floats to the bottom.
	He said, don't let go.
	And by the way, the damn door, pardon my French, was big enough to float on for both of them.
	I get very frustrated about that.
	That has been thoroughly litigated by the YouTube Mafia, but please continue.
	Yes.
	No, absolutely.
	So besides those facts, I mean, it was a cultural phenomenon.
	And, you know, I've seen a ton of memes we all have about this, which I think is actually kind of the heart of this It's like this pretty crazy adventure industry made for rich people, and they take their lives into their own hands to do these crazy things, and in this instance, this is a five-person submarine.
	It was not spherical, which would have been the preferred shape, the more stable shape, but they made it a sphere, or rather a... Cylinder, right?
	So that they could fit passengers in it.
	You could not stand up.
	You could not move around.
	They had one toilet that was separated by a curtain.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	One person could extend their legs at any one time.
	So, yeah, no, exactly.
	So the point is, this this whole thing was fairly crazy.
	And now we're getting we're getting reports from people that had survived these previous dives.
	And they're saying, I'm lucky to be alive.
	I was fortunate.
	This whole thing, I think, brings up a larger issue of, is this morally questionable to do this?
	And a lot of people, I think you asked this question on Twitter, Charlie, and a lot of people are saying, I don't care what they do with their own money.
	At least you're going to go out this way.
	Now that we know that they probably died right when they lost communication, that the whole Imploded, or maybe it was on Sunday.
	I mean, I actually feel better about it, because to think about being in your coffin for that long.
	Well, at least they died instantly.
	So, I've had the opportunity to, and I still do, to spend time around some very, very rich people.
	And when you spend time, I'm talking about multi-billionaires, what you realize is they basically just, a lot of them watch TV all day long.
	Is that not incorrect, Blake?
	A shocking number of them do, in fact, just watch a lot of TV or just have, it makes you feel good about yourself.
	You're like, okay, what, am I missing out on anything by not being super rich?
	That's not everybody who's rich, but there is a burden of boredom that sometimes sets in.
	And you have to, some people compensate that boredom by finding weird political causes like the Lorene Powell jobs or doing extraordinarily goofy things like going into like a makeshift submarine to go see the Titanic because it'll give you better cocktail party conversations.
	And it pretty much is just that, because think about what this sub was.
	It had like a viewing portal that was supposedly large, but it wasn't that big.
	And the main way they actually view the Titanic when it isn't imploding is it was like a computer view screen.
	So you could just be on a boat and you could send a sub and look at it on a computer screen.
	You could also send an unmanned sub and watch it on maybe a VR headset?
	You could watch like an A&E documentary about the Titanic.
	And you'd see just as much of the Titanic.
	So it really is like just the, I'm going to pay $250,000 to say like I was physically near the Titanic.
	And now it seems they will be physically near the Titanic forever.
	So now the most important part of the conversation, which is Jack, how do you believe the original Titanic sinking has some suspicious aura to it?
	JP Morgan, Federal Reserve, World Banking Cartel.
	Jack?
	I mean, look, in that day and age, there's definitely a lot easier ways to take out people than blowing up an entire ship.
	That being said, obviously there is a line in the movie that kind of refers to this because there were members of the Titanic's crew that were involved in what led to the creation of the Federal Reserve.
	There's an awful amount of suspicious activity.
	So, Andrew, is it just fair to admit that Titanic is filled with sea demons and no one should get close to it?
	Is that basically the takeaway here?
	I still don't understand how the whole darn thing doesn't just collapse under the weight of the ocean, right?
	I know it's... It probably did.
	It's because it sank, so it's got equalized pressure.
	Oh, you mean the actual wreckage of Titanic.
	Ryan did some sort of thing because it didn't equal... Yeah, it's an open system is what they're saying.
	Because the water can go inside, you know, it's not like a cylinder of a submarine that has pressure on all sides.
	The submarine is filled with air, and the water wants to get in and push out the air, and so that's why you have to design it.
	But the Titanic is just filled with water.
	It's fully flooded.
	So the pressure is in equal directions.
	It's facing just as much pressure in all directions, and so there's nothing to implode upon.
	No, go ahead.
	And you have like a cup or a bowl and you sort of like press it down on the top of the water and it retains the air.
	Right.
	But then if you turn it, it flips upside down.
	This is the same exact concept, just at massive, massive scale.
	But Jack, they were there was stories from previous launches of this submarine that they would land on the hull of the Titanic.
	They would land the vessel on the hull.
	And I'm thinking to myself, This thing's janky.
	You and I were sharing the Daily Mail articles where the ballasts had fallen off on a previous launch, and they reattached them with zip ties.
	So, I mean, I don't know about you, but this thing was a walking, you know, floating, sinking, disaster waiting to happen.
	And the fact that they are landing it on the hull of the Titanic, to me, is just insane.
	But you think about it, what does this thing and the original Titanic have in common?
	Rich people that wanted to have something that others could not.
	It's the same thing.
	Is it not?
	To play devil's advocate, you could probably, I bet there's an alternate universe where you could say, like, Charles Lindbergh's flight over the Atlantic was, like, really foolhardy.
	Like, oh, one guy is gonna, with his homemade plane, is going, not 100% homemade, but, you know, in a shop.
	And he's going to fly over the Atlantic by himself and, you know, there's an alternate universe where Lindbergh just crashes and dies and everyone's like, what an idiot.
	But that would have broke a record or something, right?
	It was a prize.
	You basically could win a million dollars or something if you were the first person to fly over the Atlantic.
	This is the exact opposite.
	They paid their money to do it.
	There was no upside except pride.
	Yeah, but, you know, we're advancing, you advance human civilization by making it cheaper and more, advancing our ability to do dumb tourism things.
	Yeah, I mean, I just... Go ahead, Jack.
	I was going to say, I think Blake is right in a sense, right?
	Because obviously there is something to be said about the human spirit and exploration.
	I think that's where this comes from.
	I don't necessarily think that this was pushing beyond the frontiers of human knowledge or human experience.
	But at the same time, we know that eventually we would like to get back to the point where we're pushing back further into space, where we're understanding more about the ocean depths.
	But, you know, kind of I thought I had earlier when even just thinking about the show that we're on here, we're calling this thought crime, right?
	So these guys, were they, were they pushing boundaries and were they taking on risks in a sense personally?
	Yes, but they were always doing so within the confines of their own walled garden, within the confines of their own, uh, you know, the nursery of the long house, if you will.
	Right.
	And then one day they find themselves in the jungle.
	You know, you take a guy like that and they'll spend money to go down on this rickety submarine, which and we interviewed a guy today who said this thing wouldn't have even been certified to operate in U.S.
	waters.
	That's why they had to do it out in international waters.
	But you go and and have them.
	OK, would they talk publicly, though, about any of the topics that we're going to get into tonight, any of the topics that we got into last week, any of the topics that we talk about on a regular basis?
	God forbid.
	They posed something about, you know, going up against transgender orthodoxy or any of the orthodoxies that were forced to talk about inner-city crime, any of the various things that you're just supposed to be quiet about.
	They would be completely unwilling to take that risk, even though they were willing to take a risk that ultimately ended in their own deaths.
	Is it healthy to have your richest people spend their money, time, and resources doing things for their own delight and kind of ignoring some of the, I don't know, more pressing issues of humanity?
	I mean, the question, I mean, or is it, hey, I'd rather have Jeff Bezos launching rockets in space than Bill Gates trying to create weird, creepy vaccines that change our DNA?
	I look, what can I say?
	I'm a believer in the good of the country.
	I'm a patriot.
	I think that we should absolutely be pushing the boundaries of science.
	And I think that that's something as a national project that we seem to have lost.
	We seem to have lost this idea of a national purpose, a national ethos, if you will, to the point where people with money do what you were saying earlier.
	They're just kind of sitting around watching TV, thinking about what to do.
	All right.
	I have a question, though.
	And we all know about them, and we've been, like, wondering how much we can share.
	But the meme economy has gotten a massive infusion because of the titan sub.
	All right.
	We all secretly laugh a little bit when we see them, because some of them are really funny.
	Obviously, this is a tragedy.
	Nobody's laughing at the loss of life.
	But on its question, why did this spark so many memes?
	And I think we have a couple of them here.
	I mean, people are sharing them.
	They're creating them.
	Why is that even happening?
	I think it's a really valid question.
	about this entire segment, just for the record, never laugh about something like this.
	Well, it's because it's hard to have sympathy for a bunch of really rich people doing something dumb that they willingly signed up for and ignored all the warning signs.
	That's why.
	It's a classic tragic comedy.
	It is sad they died, but everything about this is absurd.
	They went in in this rickety boat that we now have a ton of people coming out and saying this thing was a death trap.
	And weird little details like it's driven with a video game controller and it's And then, you know, the CEO with his weird remarks like, you know, oh, 55-year-old submarine veterans are not inspiring, so we need 25-year-old college graduates to drive this.
	And all of that is perfectly set up for a tragicomedy.
	Like, you can easily imagine a movie being made about this someday.
	Yes, it's... But there's also something to say that they signed up for this.
	This was not just like they were walking on the side of the street and fell into a well.
	Or, I mean, they went into this with a fair amount of agency and agreement.
	And so, it's a tragedy.
	At the same time, here they are bragging about all the woke elements of their personnel selection.
	Yeah, some of it, it's like if you die riding in a barrel over Niagara Falls, as a lot of people have done, actually.
	Some survived.
	Some survived.
	I think the first person who did it survived.
	Didn't Houdini do that successfully once?
	I think he did, right?
	He might have.
	And one person actually went over Niagara Falls in a bizarre contraption.
	The woman did.
	You know what?
	What was her name?
	The woman who went over Niagara Falls.
	Annie something.
	Her name was Annie.
	Hold on, I'm drawing it from memory.
	No, no.
	It's Annie Taylor.
	It's Annie Taylor.
	I'm 90% sure.
	Annie Edson Taylor.
	Annie Taylor.
	I was right.
	Yeah.
	Strong from memory.
	Whenever you mention a woman at Niagara, it makes me think of the fantastic film noir movie, Niagara, with Marilyn Monroe, which is absolutely her best movie by far.
	I'll watch that any time it's on.
	So speaking of people that used to be considered the embodiment of perfect beauty, there is a new study out, and look, you just gotta trust the science.
	Studies say.
	The studies have spoken.
	And it's very clear, and if you disagree, you're anti-science.
	In fact, you probably hate yourself.
	We have this article up, by the way.
	Yes, the article is up on what?
	It's on Eeveemagazine.com?
	Eevee, yes.
	I posted this, and it just started to go everywhere.
	And it shouldn't surprise anybody, right?
	This is stuff that a lot of people know, but it's worth some exploration.
	But now the science speaks very clearly to it, and it's very simple.
	Attractive women are more likely to be right-wing when So they have a paywall?
	Really?
	I can't even read the rest of the headline.
	I have some of it.
	So, attractive women were more likely to be right-wing, while left-wing women showed more contempt, according to study.
	Now, this has gone very viral, and I'd say 90% of people agree with me.
	Of course, my comment was, we already knew this.
	Andrew, this is a fact of life, isn't it?
	Charlie, your tweet has inspired, I mean, I think you're at like 65,000 likes on this tweet now or something, and most of the comments are like, we already knew this, absolutely.
	So, but there's definitely a number of people saying like, oh, liberal women are way hotter and you conservative men are too rigid and things like that.
	I think it's a fascinating concept.
	I will tell you that when we did the Young Women's Leadership Summit, that was actually That was in Dallas, like what, like a week ago?
	I can't even remember our weeks anymore.
	That was a big topic of discussion that the girls were like, you know, they think we're conservative, we're handmaid's tale and all this kind of stuff, but we are fashion forward.
	And I can just tell you that I am married to a conservative woman.
	She is happy.
	She is joyous.
	She is faithful.
	I got only anecdotal experience to say that the study is in fact Accurate.
	It doesn't mean... By the way, this is what's funny.
	So, on your Twitter thread, Charlie, you'll have the libs showing pictures of, like, not-so-attractive women at Trump rallies, and then you'll have the conservatives throwing, like, blue-haired trannies and this sort of thing as a counterpoint and a tit-for-tat, and it's really funny.
	People have to understand what a statistic means.
	There is a distribution - The studies say. - There's a distribution.
	It's not saying that all conservative women are attractive or all liberal women are unattractive.
	It's saying more likely than not, right?
	So let's just, there can be attractive women on both sides, but it's science.
	I don't know what to tell you.
	I don't make the rules.
	The key takeaway here is it's been studied, so now we know what the science is, and we need to suppress any disagreement as misinformation.
	That is the precedent that we've established.
	I mean, this thing went bonkers on Instagram.
	121,000 people liked my post on Instagram, and the comments are just unbelievable, right?
	Tell us something we don't know.
	I've been saying this for years.
	But Jack, is there something to say that you kind of end up Looking or embodying what you believe.
	If you believe in nasty and ugly stuff, does it eventually impact your physiology?
	Oh, 100%.
	You know, I'm, I'm a big believer in that.
	And I mean, look, I think we've all come to realize that in the last couple, here's a thought crime.
	Um, in the last couple of years, let's say the last decade or so, if you've been paying attention as the country has become more political, as the national pastime has moved from, it used to be baseball.
	Now I would argue that America's national pastime is politics.
	We love politics.
	We can't get enough of politics.
	We don't talk about anything but politics, obviously, which is good for us from a business perspective, but here we are.
	That you can actually tell someone's politics by looking at them, and you're going to guess that more right than wrong just by looking at someone, I guarantee.
	And I'm not just talking about- Jack, are you talking about prejudicing people?
	No, it's not prejudice.
	It's called pattern recognition.
	It's called pattern recognition.
	That if I see something, because I'm not talking about the blue hairs and the purple hairs and the rest, even though occasionally that works out.
	I'm just saying that averages do exist.
	Okay, let's just start with men.
	Anecotes don't disprove.
	Let's start with men.
	We can get to women in a second.
	But I think we would agree that if you see a guy with a strong BMI and he's jacked and yoked and... Do you really think he's going to be on the liberal side of the distribution?
	I mean, almost every single person...
	Why is that, Jack?
	Why is it that, like, the Huberman bros and the Atiyah mob tend to be, like, 80-90% right-wingers?
	Yeah, and it's funny because studies will come out and say that.
	They say, oh, you know, I think Vice has this article up, this headline from, like, 2015 or something saying, are you working out?
	Working out can increase your testosterone and it can cause you to become more inherently right-wing.
	And now you could go through the physiological argument of this and say that If you are more willing to defend yourself, then you are more capable of defending yourself, and know that you are, then you will become more inherently independent-minded, as opposed to someone who is unable to defend themselves, who then becomes a seeker of consensus, because that type of person is always going to look for the safety of the herd.
	106!
	Let's play Cut 106, and I want to get Blake's comments on this.
	Play Cut 106.
	Do you wanna know one of the saddest realizations I recently had?
	Was that as a liberal woman, it is really hard to find a man who is willing to play the more traditional, masculine role in the relationship in today's day and age.
	Who is not a conservative.
	A man who wants to pay on the first date, who wants to open your door, who has that want and desire to take care of you and to provide.
	Who is not a conservative.
	Blake!
	Well, if you do any of those masculine things she wants, you're basically going to be denounced as a creep or a predator or some weird sexist thing.
	They'll call you a bunch of names and then they're like, why does nobody do this?
	And to get back to the point, though, on why things like even working out might make you more conservative, I don't think it's just about testosterone.
	I think one big element of it is exercise is probably It's one of the habits you can have where there's the most direct link between effort and outcome.
	That if you do this... And diet.
	I'll put diet there, too.
	And diet, too.
	If you do this, you will get what you deserve.
	And a lot of things in life, it's less direct than that.
	Economic, job prospects, that can all be wild.
	That's a really good point, yes.
	It's one of the few things where the variables and the formula can be so precisely controlled by your will and your effort.
	Exactly and you know, so then it's sort of studies show if you believe that you know Your own behavior is the key factor in your life outcomes You have better life outcomes and you're also more likely to be conservative and you're more likely to be conservative And so it's like if you if you do this in your personal life with exercise, you're going to come away Being like wait if this is true for for exercise and lifting weights Why wouldn't it be true?
	For everything else in my life and you know in the economy and in like whether you go to jail or not Your personal decisions are what matter, and that's a conservative perspective.
	Alright, but Blake, you brought up a thought crime of your own when we were texting about this.
	You said, question, so if liberal women are the ones that are more likely to have contempt and be angry and bitter or whatever, what is the male equivalent?
	Who are more, are conservative men more likely to be happy or angry and bitter?
	Yeah, I'm not sure if it's like overall, like if there's a lot of studies that say on this or not, but obviously there's definitely a subculture of like very angry, online, like right-wing male, and it is very easy for them to fall into these like Bitterness cascades with very... Black pills?
	Yeah, the black pill culture.
	Chuds, I think they sometimes call them now on Twitter.
	On the interwebs?
	On the interwebs.
	You can get cartoons here.
	Let me bring up a chud just so we can have everyone understand this.
	Yeah, put it on the screen.
	I think generally though, if you embrace the idea that you are to blame for most of your problems, then you will end up on the center right.
	That generally on the center left, they believe that they're a byproduct of somebody else's decisions or impact.
	That they don't have free will, they don't have agency.
	They don't have the capacity to improve their life.
	Okay, okay.
	Bring it up on our screen.
	We have, this is what a chud is.
	You have it on the, oh, on the laptop.
	On the laptop.
	Yeah, let's put it up.
	Let's see what this is.
	Ah!
	Yes, a mouth breather.
	But I think this is usually used as an angry right-wing guy on the internet, and they call them chuds.
	Billions must die, as they say.
	Who says that?
	Allegedly this person, this chad, they'll be stewing on the internet and they'll be like, everything sucks, we need to change the world, well not change the world, we need to burn it all down, billions must die.
	That is the stereotypical.
	It's like the, yeah, it's like the phrase that's associated with the meme.
	Is there something to be said, yeah, is there something to be said that uglier people have contempt and they're just less happy?
	There is a phrase for this, and I was just going to bring it up because Urban Dictionary has it, and Blake, I'm sure you've heard of this one.
	This is definitely a thought crime, so we're going to throw it in there, because this term is called bio-leninism.
	Bio-leninism!
	Have you heard of this, Blake?
	Yeah, I'm familiar with this one.
	What is this?
	Bio-leninism is this concept... Can I explain it?
	Because I'll feel really smart if I nail it without having to look at it.
	Alright, go for it.
	Bio-Leninism is this concept, it was in a blog post, must be almost like six or seven years old at this point, but it's this idea that the regime, as we call it, you know, the dominant sort of woke liberal regime, it's built on this sort of bedrock of essentially like freaks and weirdos and useless people, so you're, you know, your classic mega obese tatted up, mentally ill disaster.
	And these people are fanatically loyal to the regime because this is the only system that would ever give them any status.
	Like, no man will-- if they're a woman-- no man will ever be interested in them.
	No one wants to work with them.
	Like Karine Jean-Pierre.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And they're so unpleasant, the only system that would ever give them status is this one, and as long as we have a lot of those people, they're just this, they're the, you know, the Janissaries of this, of this regime.
	They'll do anything for it.
	They will kill for it.
	So like Levine, Dylan Mulvaney, Kareem Jean-Pierre.
	Transgender people are the perfect bio-Leninists.
	So the luggage thief.
	Yes, Sam Brinton.
	The Demetriarchus, the monkey pox czar.
	Jack?
	The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.
	Right, no, so, Blake, you nailed it.
	BioLeninismUrbanDictionary.com.
	The concept that social strife is driven by the inequality in looks among individuals of the species.
	Looks and thus proper sexualization leads to productive societies.
	Unattractive looks leads to aggressive social failure and or overcompensation through toxic displays of masculinity among men, incels, while among women it leads to aggressive politics and promoting social discord.
	Bio-Leninism oftentimes gets confused with communism when in fact modern day Bio-Leninists with their disruptive, unaesthetic appearances simply co-opt communism as a way to express their discontent with their genetic ostracization.
	So basically that's what you're saying, Blake, is that they're co-opting the system as a way to deal with their inability to achieve status.
	Yes, and I think the original blog post gets more into it beyond just like, you know, innate appearance.
	It's that there's obviously a lot of people who become, like, very repulsive because they're, you know, they're very delusional or they're very mentally unwell.
	And the system actually encourages this because if you expand the number of people who are very mentally unwell and very, you know, who are dependent on the system to give them any status, any economic standing whatsoever, they'll be more loyal to it.
	And I don't know that it's that this is deliberate, that anyone designed this, but I think there is an argument to be made that this dynamic does prop the system up.
	Like, we have a lot of people who need the current system of, like, mass censorship, mass, like, ideological control, because, like, for example, with transgender people, that's the only system that keeps everyone from going, like, wait a minute, you're a crazy person in a dress.
	And Sam Brinton really needs this system to have everyone, to ever have a chance of any news article calling him a hero and not this creep who was clearly stealing women's clothes for apparently like a decade.
	Andrew.
	Well, I mean, I get really pretty basic about this.
	My buddy gave me this expression, a liberal, mind you.
	He said that hipsters are just ugly people trying to look cool.
	And that, to me, basically sums it up.
	It's like, whenever you see somebody that is intentionally looking grungy, with holes everywhere, and they're trying to look hard, and they're trying to look, you know, progressive, I mean, I think it's, you know, I'm not saying all hipsters are ugly, I'm just saying, distribution, anecdotally, that's been my experience.
	It's a lot of people that are fronting.
	And so, I guess I agree with what Blake's saying.
	This Leninism, it makes sense to me, because Otherwise we would all just call spade a spade and maybe we're all captive to it.
	We don't even realize how much we're captive to this and how much we play along with it.
	I think half of the conservative battle in the last like three or four years has been waking up to the fact that we're all being subjugated by this word game, by this ideological premise that we just basically have to reject.
	Like Charlie, you tweeted something actually about you said it was assigned at birth.
	This has become a thing that we've just like agreed to lately.
	That we're assigned at birth, that's not a thing, it's like a logical fallacy.
	You're not assigned at birth, you're born and you either have male parts or you have female parts.
	Your sex is observed at birth, it's not assigned at birth.
	Yeah, but this is like a regime, like when you start waking up to this, how insidious and how all-encompassing it actually is, you realize how beholden you've become to All of their rules and all of their games, and all of a sudden you start thinking hipsters look attractive, and it's like, that's not true.
	They're just literally trying to look cool, and we're all sort of subject to it.
	And hipsters, you know, I'm dating myself here, I don't even think hipsters a thing anymore.
	Is it, Jack?
	Well, it's a loose... No, it is, unfortunately, it is.
	It's still definitely a thing.
	And, you know, Andrew, kind of near your stomping grounds in, I would think that just kind of the average person In Santa Barbara, in Isla Vista, is kind of in that archetype of... You know, there's a lot of bro culture in Isla Vista.
	People don't appreciate... There's a lot of degenerates in Isla Vista.
	It's too hot there to wear flannel all the time, though.
	Portland.
	Let's think Portland.
	People don't appreciate how cold it gets.
	Pure oil doesn't stay.
	Portland.
	Yeah, but here's the thing.
	I went to school in Seattle, and it was like all hipsters.
	And then I lived in Silver Lake, In Los Angeles, which was all hip.
	It was literally, it was the Williamsburg of the West Coast when I lived there.
	And I kid you not, I have never been around a more just like frustratingly anti-social group of people.
	Like there's no waving, there's no smiles.
	Everybody has to act way too cool for their own good all the time.
	And it was, you know, I came from Venice Beach before that when I was living in Venice Beach.
	Everyone was happy by the beach.
	I don't know.
	And it's not like they were conservative or liberal.
	It was just sort of like this subculture that had to be angry.
	Is, Jack, one of the reasons why this story received such anger from the left is that we're implying objective beauty standards?
	Hmm.
	Well, that's exactly right.
	Anytime you want to apply any objective standards, especially to something like beauty, which applies to aesthetics, which is really funny because, Andrew, basically what you're talking, so you're talking about Hollywood, right?
	And in Hollywood, we know looks matter.
	Someone who can write a good story matters.
	Someone who can write a good script matters, or at least it did for a very long time, obviously with some of the current changes that's going on.
	But deep down, a guy like Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't care about this stuff.
	He hates this stuff.
	He doesn't care about the environment.
	I don't believe that, for a fact.
	He just wants to be able to take, you know, 20 year old girls down to his island in Belize.
	Virgins only is what the rumors say about Leo.
	I have heard that.
	I've actually heard that.
	Well, I know.
	Yeah, that's a thought.
	Leonardo DiCaprio, I think, only sleeps with virgins.
	I think that's his I don't believe that.
	Jack, have you heard it, too?
	I've heard the rumor.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Just allegedly.
	If we're wrong, his lawyer will contact us.
	Well, so the idea is that behind the scenes there, they all have this belief that we are the best.
	The rules don't apply to us.
	It's very Nietzschean, right?
	The same belief that drove Leopold and Loeb.
	We are, we are superior.
	We are better.
	And so there's this idea then deep down that for the left, and I'm not talking about necessarily the leaders of the left, but sort of the, you know, the denizens of, uh, Instagram and TikTok and, you know, it used to be more on Tumblr.
	I don't know if they're really on there as much anymore.
	I think a lot of this started on Tumblr.
	But it comes again from these people who've been pushed to the fringes of society.
	And unfortunately, a lot of society is a mating contest.
	And so if you get pushed to the bottom rung of that, if you get pushed out of it, the Calhoun Mouse Utopia experiment showed this.
	What is that?
	Essentially, it just drives you nuts.
	So the Calhoun Mouse Utopia Experiment, and in a nutshell, I don't have it in front of me.
	It was these this series of tests went through the 1960s and 1970s of behavioral science tests to say, OK, we will create a utopia for mice.
	We are going to give them abundant food, abundant resources.
	By the way, you always hear this from the left.
	Oh, it's all it's just poverty drives all this.
	And it's it's society and it's it's lack of resources.
	That's the only thing that drives strife.
	If you take away that, You will.
	You will then attain utopia.
	All right, here's all the stuff.
	Well, you know what happened?
	So then the strongest mice eventually went over to where all the food came out in the, you know, in the chamber and then dominated control over getting the food out.
	Then the weaker mice would come up and try to try to go after them and they'd be destroyed.
	Uh, eventually then women were, you know, the female mice were women, but the female mice got attacked.
	Are we thinking of different, maybe this is a different mouse utopia.
	The Calhoun mouse utopia I remember is that he basically dumped unlimited food in his mouse utopia and it got mega overpopulated.
	It basically turned into the mouse equivalent of like Manila.
	And we got it got super huge.
	It got super overpopulated and eventually it like messed up.
	It caused like a behavioral sink where all the mice would kind of sit around.
	He called them the beautiful ones.
	And you'll sometimes see this in one.
	The beautiful ones were actually kind of like the hipsters of the Calhoun Utopia because they sat around.
	They pulled themselves out of the mating game, sat around just trying to make themselves look pretty all the time, but never actually challenged the dominant mice.
	So, I guess the question, I mean, the predominant view right now is how we raise kids.
	We should not tell them that there's a certain thing as an objective beauty standard.
	Andrew, you have three kids.
	Are you going to raise them in a way to say that certain people are ugly and certain people are beautiful?
	No, not really.
	Honestly, I mean, I think.
	Oh, wow.
	Wait, hold on.
	Let me.
	Yes and no.
	I know what you're I know where you're going with this, but I mean, I think there's a there's a Christian ethic, right, that we're trying to uphold.
	That is, you know, we don't call like, for example, my my beautiful little daughter.
	Well, we went up to a drive through the other day and the gal serving us was a little overweight.
	And so from the back of the seat, she goes, hey, did you just say hi to that fat gal or something like that?
	She said it.
	in front of her and a fat woman and we were like amelia we don't say that we say nice things we don't but we don't draw attention to people's being overweight or skinny because there's a politeness element to this right so so in my interpersonal dealings i want to teach my kids to be polite i want them to teach people treat people well and not not be so fixated on the visual right now
	I visited a friend of mine in Austin last year, and he has a daughter who is about, must have been kindergarten age, and I'm talking to him at the table, and then she walks up and she leans over to her dad, and she's like, Dad, he has no hair.
	And I was apparently the first bald person she'd ever seen in Austin, Texas.
	Yeah, I mean, so to the to that point, right, that you want to teach your kids to be polite humans, right, and not do socially inept things.
	That being said, when we're having a larger conversation about absolute truth and standards of beauty, I mean, this goes to that's why shows like this exist.
	That's why your Daily Show and Jack Show exist is because we're having a debate about standards of truth.
	And there is standards of truth like this whole BMI index.
	I mean, we were actually going to put it on one of the topics today, but you know, Lizzo's, what did she say?
	She was threatening to like, just get off of social media or give up like on everything because of all of the fat shaming.
	Oh no!
	We're going to lose Lizzo from social media?
	And then like a month later, the American Medical Association says that BMI body, what is it?
	Body Mass Index is somehow racist.
	When it comes to these types of things, I'm absolutely going to teach my kid that, like, actually, sweetheart, being overweight is not only healthy, but, you know, there are some other consequences that might come with it.
	Namely, if you want to marry Prince Charming, which she very much does, and that's her, we didn't even teach her to do that, by the way, which has been a very fascinating learning experience as a parent, just to watch them naturally embrace these things and want these things.
	You know, I will have that conversation if it gets to the point.
	Thankfully, she's, you know, as skinny as a stick.
	But, you know, so I don't know that I'm going to have to have that particular conversation with her.
	But yeah, there are standards of beauty.
	And Charlie, you talk about this all the time when it comes to art and how we used to lift up these beautiful pieces of art and masterpieces of the Western canon.
	And now we're, you know, our modern art museums have urinals in them, you know, with like paint splattered on them or something.
	I mean, So this does impact things and I love beautiful architecture.
	I think we should absolutely aspire to these universal truths and these timeless things that are beautiful.
	There's a reason why we look at Greek columns and we still We still see them with awe, and we're still on to them.
	The Greeks probably overplayed the worship of the body, right, Jack?
	That was, and the Romans as well, the worship of the... So you could obviously overplay that, but if we're fooling ourselves and saying Lizzo is anything but ugly and fat, then we're doing a disservice.
	We have a good image of Lizzo here.
	Bring it up on the laptop.
	You're not allowed to say that this is...
	And overweight.
	What is Lizzo's claim to fame again?
	What does she do?
	Is she a model?
	She's a musician.
	She's a singer.
	And she plays James Madison's flute.
	She's got some hits.
	She's got some hit songs.
	So that's Lizzo.
	I mean, she very well could lose that weight, but she's choosing not to.
	This is why when I see Chris Christie, I'm just repulsed.
	I say, you've no self-control.
	I don't want to be part of a movement that is accepting of that.
	Jack?
	Chris, at least try the Ozempic, man.
	Give the semi-glutide shots a shot.
	You know, it's one shot a week.
	It's in the thigh.
	You've got plenty of those.
	You could stand to lose a few rolls.
	You'll be all right, buddy.
	Especially if you're going to be out on the campaign trail.
	All right, but hold on.
	said, look, look, look, I'm just going to say, you can't change, you can't change, right?
	These basic, and this to Andrew's point, right?
	And I had an issue with, uh, with, uh, my five-year-old called somebody old when we were like in a store recently.
	He's just like, Hey, he's like, Hey, daddy, look at that old guy.
	You know, I said, Oh God, you know, you don't say that.
	But at the same time, it's gosh, you know, um, truth is truth.
	You can't deny truth.
	You can't deny human instincts.
	You can't deny human nature.
	You can't deny that we have these objective standards, these moral truths that are out there, these, these objective truths, these objective beliefs, what you can do is say, you know what?
	Yes, it is better for us to be, uh, to treat people fairly.
	It is best for us to treat people with kindness, with manners.
	But that being said, like, you know, hot is hot and ugly is ugly.
	Okay.
	I just want, I want to observe one other thing.
	I know we got, we got to get onto the page, Matt, but like one thing that just bothers me about Twitter and like the online culture and Jack, you know, this better than anybody.
	I mean, between you and Charlie, what are you at?
	Like five million followers now or something like this? - Just on Twitter, yeah. - But like you'll make a comment and it's like people don't understand the role of Twitter and the role of social media influencers.
	And I go through them and I think I get more pissed off about some of the comments than Charlie couldn't care less.
	He literally could not care less.
	And I'm like getting defensive for him.
	I'm like, you know, Charlie made some tweets about Juneteen and it was like the whole world exploded.
	Charlie's trending all, like, all Monday, Tuesday for it.
	I didn't feel a thing.
	No, exactly.
	But, like, the point is that people don't understand.
	It's like, it kind of goes to that bifurcation that I was just describing.
	There's one thing I'm gonna tell my daughter to be a polite person.
	There's another thing when you're in the public square, like, batting for truth, right?
	Yeah, you're gonna say some things that piss people off because that's the role of Twitter, of social media, of Instagram, of these things.
	Of these forums where we debate and hash things out.
	Like, you're not gonna say everything that's 100% polite all the time, but Charlie and his own personal dealings, like, he's a very polite person!
	Like, very nice!
	He's going to go out on Twitter and address something, a cultural rot, and he's gonna call it, and all the people that have bought into the rot are gonna, like, freak out.
	And, anyways, it's kind of an aside topic, but it actually frustrates me to no end that people can't understand that when you say something spicy on Twitter, there's actually a point to it.
	And you're actually trying to expand the Overton window.
	There's method to the madness.
	You're not just trying to be a giant jerk all the time.
	Anyway.
	Well, and also, ugly is not just a visual aesthetic.
	Ugly is how you behave.
	It's with language.
	It's with your attitude.
	Lizzo has an ugly aura around her, right?
	It's not just the visual, which obviously, I mean, you just look at her.
	And it's also just her language and her insistence that there's nothing wrong with her, right?
	Okay, next, next.
	Topic, CIS cage match.
	Elon Musk has said that CIS is a slur on his platform and might be moderated on Twitter going forward completely separately.
	Musk has challenged Mark Zuckerberg to a cage match over rumors that Meta is planning a Twitter competitor.
	Elon Musk versus the Zuck.
	What a smart money.
	If this happens, Jack, what are the Caesar Palisades?
	I mean, I think it depends on how they both prepare.
	Look, I mean, obviously Mark Zuckerberg's what, like 5'9"?
	Elon's probably 6'1".
	He's got him pound for pound.
	He's got reach, etc.
	That being said, though, Mark Zuckerberg's been out there doing BJJ.
	I think he's a blue belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu.
	He's actually won a couple of competitions.
	He's been competing.
	And I don't know if Elon Musk has ever had that kind of training.
	Obviously, he's older than Zuckerberg.
	If you're going up against somebody who, okay, admittedly is smaller than you, but that person's had training and experience, has been in the ring, and you're not, I don't think it would do well.
	So I think what Elon should do is take a few months, go get with somebody, Sam Hyde perhaps, go train, go train for a couple of months, just get into premium shape, tip-top shape, go train the hands, work the back, Go work some basic grappling, some basic ground techniques, decide if it's going to be UFC or boxing or kickboxing, whatever it is.
	I guess Andrew Tate's not available right now to practice that.
	Um, I think that if Elon takes time to train, then we could have a really good fight on our hands.
	If not, Zuckerberg wins.
	You know, alternatively, what if Musk just put a Neuralink in, like a top jujitsu fighter, and he just like controlled their body at a distance, and then he defeated Musk by just, he would just go into the body of I actually don't know any famous.
	Conor McGregor?
	He's a little in play.
	We need someone who's won a fight within the last five years.
	Ooh, that's salty.
	Jorge Masvidal?
	How about that?
	Is that Jorge?
	I think it's Jorge, right?
	Yeah, Jorge.
	Yep.
	Masvidal.
	I got it right.
	He's a champion.
	He wins a lot.
	Or Colby Covington.
	He wins all the time.
	Colby Covington's a conservative.
	So is Maz Vidal.
	Yeah, those guys are studs.
	Jiu-Jitsu's a lot, or MMA is a lot like weightlifting.
	It rewards effort and rewards putting in the work.
	And so it's a naturally conservatizing phenomenon.
	Here's the picture of Musk.
	It's up on screen.
	This was a famed picture.
	Musk credited this with Is this a UFC fight though?
	to lose weight, to be fair.
	Jack is telling me in the comments that he lost a lot of weight after this.
	But here's the question.
	In UFC fighting, weight is like a massive advantage.
	So does he beef up a little bit?
	Is this a UFC fight, though?
	He did say Vegas Octagon.
	So that's nasty, man.
	Yeah, and Dana White's... I would think that means Dana White.
	Is it going to be exclusively streamed on Rumble?
	That would be interesting.
	Well, I don't know.
	I don't know if Twitter and Facebook... The Rumble on Rumble.
	The Rumble on Rumble, but they would probably... Here's the update on it.
	He has the slap thing, right?
	Maybe they could do the slap thing, like Dana.
	Well, that's Dana White, too.
	Yeah, so here's the update.
	Dana White is confident he can make the fight between Elon Musk and Zuckerberg happen in the UFC.
	White says he spoke with both men last night and they are, quote, deadly serious, end quote, about the fight.
	White believes it would be the biggest selling fight in history, tripling the number of Conor McGregor versus Floyd Mayweather.
	He says he would sell the pay-per-view tickets for $100 and donate all earnings to charity.
	This is happening!
	I think.
	Maybe.
	Likely.
	It truly would be the most amazing thing.
	And could we get other iterations of this?
	What if we did this in politics?
	What if Ron DeSantis came out and just challenged Donald Trump to a fight?
	I mean, Joe Biden has challenged Donald Trump to the fight, didn't he?
	That was something like, I'd like to take him out behind the barn or something, right?
	Yeah, but they should respond to this very literally, like, what if we just had our politicians do that?
	Kind of Aaron Burr, Hamilton style, where they go out and just duel?
	America was a great country then.
	Look, the two that I gotta think of that really need to go at it right now in the ring, MTG, Alarm Bober, let's just have it out!
	Throw down!
	Yeah, I think we have a scheduling issue at ActCon.
	I have to keep the two on separate days.
	No, you're doing it wrong.
	You have to keep them close to each other and have cameras follow them, and then you air the moment where they fortuitously run into each other, and you do a whole hype video.
	Should we have it at ActCon?
	Should we have the Octagon?
	Just come in.
	Right onto the stage.
	They each have, like, a podium and then their podiums, like, are each inside the lowered octagon.
	We're not saying anything that's not public, by the way.
	I don't know why anyone would freak out.
	I'm just... They're cussing each other out on the house floor.
	We're almost... We should just skip ahead to what their entrance music will be, really.
	I mean, here's the deal though.
	If we're being real about this, Lauren Bober is like a very, very small person.
	I wouldn't want to fight her, man.
	She's got some spark.
	She's like 4'10".
	I'm not kidding.
	Like 4'10".
	No.
	MTG's not that much taller.
	No, she's not.
	MTG's taller.
	MTG does, like, CrossFit.
	She spends all her time hitting tires with a sledgehammer.
	MTG can do an impressive amount of pull-ups for a woman.
	Like, impressive amount.
	Yeah.
	That's true.
	She can do, like, 17 or 18, like, legit pull-ups.
	I love them both.
	I'm just saying, MTG... So let's see in the Rumble Rants, who wins?
	MTG, oh, people say MTG's gonna win.
	That's what the comments say.
	I mean, you know, I'm not saying Lauren Bovert doesn't play above her size and weight.
	Like, she's going to play dirty, I'm assuming.
	I'm telling you that.
	By the way, I'm on great terms with both of them.
	I have great respect for both of them.
	But apparently they had a big fight on the house floor yesterday saying, you're an F in this and this and that and this and that.
	You're a little B, and yeah, Bailey B's running it.
	I'm not against either of them.
	I'm just saying, if there's gonna be a fight, like, let's sell tickets.
	That's all I'm saying.
	What if we just, what if we did their fight as a... This is what ActCon, this is the ultimate, like, next step for ActCon AmFest.
	They could benefit from a kayfabe fight.
	Like, let's just go WWE.
	Let's put that one in a WWE format.
	No, Octagon.
	No, no, no.
	You gotta go Octagon.
	It's way bloodier.
	Better for ratings.
	Yeah, but you could have a chair.
	You could do, like, drama.
	Yeah, but it's all fake.
	So?
	It's like DC.
	Congress is fake.
	Yeah, but we're not that at turning point.
	So you need the Octagon.
	AmFest, Jack, we gotta have duels? - Hold on. - Duels at AmFest.
	Now, well, hold on, hold on.
	Could they choose champions?
	Would we allow that?
	Because if you remember, if you wanna go back into your WWE lore, when Vince McMahon and Donald Trump had the battle of the billionaires, they did not fight directly, even though the challenge was for, I would say the prize was that whoever lost had to get their heads shaved.
	So they have to pick another male member of Congress.
	So who would they pick?
	That's the question.
	Yep.
	But what should the stakes be?
	I think that's a really interesting question because, you know, does winner take all here?
	It's whose impeachment bill gets voted on.
	No, no, no, I'm talking, yeah, that's fair enough.
	That's what they're fighting over.
	I know, right?
	Like, that was so funny.
	We need higher stakes.
	Your committee, your committee seat, you get your committee pick.
	Nobody talked about this, but that was my exact, that was my first thought.
	I was like, MTG did impeachment proposal, like a resolution.
	But today, Lauren Bo, or yesterday, Lauren Boebert put it to a vote.
	And then it cleared, so now it's going to the committee, right?
	And by the way, we're not going to talk too much about it, but these new Joe Biden Hunter Biden text messages, no exaggeration or hyperbole, they're something.
	So this impeachment thing is not that far out there.
	I mean, this is unbelievable stuff.
	Maybe they all know it, and that's why it passed so easily.
	Maybe that's why Newsom is making the rounds.
	I'm telling you, there's something.
	That goes to Jack's previous theory then, by the way.
	So one of our chat people suggests that the winner gets to play pinata with watermelon head Schiff, which I think literally that sounds too violent.
	But now I kind of want to see like an actual Schiff pinata, like, you know, full on like birthday party style and like a bunch of milk duds fly out.
	We need memes of Schiff being a watermelon.
	Yeah, we need... Put your people on.
	I think we should have all of Turning Point staff work on that tomorrow.
	By the way, President's sons should also brawl.
	Don Jr.
	would destroy Hunter Biden.
	But there'd have to be drug testing.
	Or else, you know, there'd have to be mandatory drug testing.
	I feel like any... I feel like Lauren Boebert could beat Hunter Biden.
	He has, like, the worst body on any male I've ever seen.
	No, unless he gets on some crazy psychedelics and he just becomes... He's very proud of it.
	He's very proud of his body.
	There's no shame in beating up a crackhead.
	Or, I should say, there's no honor.
	There's no honor in beating up a crackhead.
	There's no honor in beating up a crackhead.
	There's a lot of entertainment value, though.
	There's a lot of shame.
	I mean, what do you get?
	There's no win there, right?
	You could just, I mean, what are you, like Patrick Bateman at that point, just walking around picking up homeless people?
	Listen, we're in the final days of the Roman Empire.
	We might as well have the entertainment alongside of it.
	The final days of the Roman Empire got rid of the entertainment.
	I'm talking about the days before the final days.
	Okay, we already have the inflation, we have the open borders, we have the degeneracy, the lack of moral decline.
	The wars.
	Can we at least see our leaders get into the ring?
	Commodus was in the ring, was he not?
	Commodus was in the ring.
	Okay, that's late Roman Empire.
	That's like mid-Roman Empire.
	That was the beginning of the fall.
	Yeah, it was.
	That's when Gibbon starts the story anyway.
	The son of the last great emperor.
	Okay, so what's this whole cis thing, Jack?
	I don't understand it.
	Okay, so cis or the word sissy, um, has been used as a slur by the left for, or not even necessarily by the left.
	It's, it's technically by, um, trans activists, even though it's, it's sort of a one-to-one Venn diagram of trans activists to the left these days, that, uh, they are now calling people sissies, sissies, cisgender.
	Elon Musk comes out and says, That phrase, if used repeatedly to harass someone, will be considered a slur and could lead to account ramifications for that person.
	I don't think he said he would specifically ban people for that, but it could lead to your account essentially being throttled or put in one of these shadow ban categories that we've seen in the past.
	And so this has been a huge sea change for Twitter in general, because on one hand, Uh, the left has always, always gotten away with being able to say whatever they want about the right.
	And I'll, I'll say the biggest one for me isn't even this, it's the word maggots.
	Um, Trump supporters have been referred to as maggots, M-A-G-A-T-S by the left.
	It trends on Twitter for, at one point it was trending on Twitter every day.
	Keith Olbermann's used it.
	A lot of big name, high profile leftists have used it.
	They use that word all the time.
	So maggots, right?
	So it's this idea of obviously dehumanizing language.
	Now, in the old days, in like Jack Dorsey Twitter days, which is really Vijaya Gadde Twitter days, that if you called anyone any word under the sun, if you use the word tranny to refer to any of them, remember, we are on Thought Carnival right now, that we would be banned.
	Your account would be taken down.
	You could lose everything with one typo.
	Right.
	You know, with one extra letter.
	And so now, all of a sudden, they're freaking out because suddenly the same standard is applied to them.
	That's basically the situation.
	So is this cis or cisgender?
	I think it's both.
	Elon actually said both.
	My personal take, though, is I'm against the idea of speech codes in general.
	I think Twitter should just be Twitter.
	Free speech, man.
	You can kind of hear him saying it in like a serpentine way.
	Yes, I can.
	Hey, so this is the bigger question, though, which is interesting, because I think the one issue with, I would say, Elon's tenure at Twitter so far, in my opinion, is when he went after Substack.
	I think he sees it as a business competitor because he wants to bring everything under this Twitter umbrella.
	But at the same time, Matt Taibbi won't work with him now because he went after The, you know, the Substack thing, right?
	But then you also have him saying that this is, this is a, you know, I consider this a slur, right?
	And listen, I think, I think going back to a previous point I made, I think we sometimes don't realize the tyranny that we live under, the thought tyranny, the language tyranny.
	This is going to be a big red pill moment for a lot of people.
	J.K.
	Rowling, if they want to put this up, she tweeted right, right, right away.
	And it got like 194,000 likes.
	It's insane.
	It says, CIS is ideological language signifying belief in the unfalsifiable concept of gender identity.
	You have a perfect right to believe in unprovable essences that may or may not match the sex of the body, but the rest of us have the right to disagree and to refuse to adopt your jargon.
	But she's essentially saying there that you have the right to say CIS if you want to, but as long as we get the right to disagree with you, we're cool.
	I don't know if I appreciate Elon's pushback, but at the same time, I'm with Jack.
	I'm like, hey, just keep it free speech.
	I'm trying to imagine traveling back in time to the year 2000 and talking to someone and saying, yes, so J.K.
	Rowling, that woman who writes those wizard books, she's going to be on this site called Twitter where you do micro-blogging.
	And they'll be like, what's a blog?
	I don't have time to explain.
	Anyway, she's going to be talking about sexed bodies.
	Well, actually guys, I'm reading the comments here and we haven't actually defined, and this is on me, we haven't actually defined what cis means, and so I'm seeing people in the comments saying they have no idea what we're talking about.
	Yes, so define it.
	So cisgender, right, and that's on me, I should have said it, cisgender refers to or relates to a person whose gender identity corresponds, this is from the Oxford Dictionary, corresponds with the sex registered for them at birth, i.e.
	Not transgender.
	So it's the opposite of transgender is cisgender.
	To simplify it, it's called being a normal person.
	Correct.
	Yeah, and by the way, you know that one of our, this is a true story, one of our Turning Point USA chapter leaders at University of New Mexico faced a nine-month Soviet-style Title IX investigation.
	Title X, Title IX, whatever.
	Because there were a bunch of maniacs that wanted to come into our Turning Point event.
	And she said, no, you're not allowed in.
	These were Antifa.
	But she let other people in.
	She said, you guys look normal.
	You're allowed to come in.
	Nine-month Soviet-style facing expulsion from the school.
	That's how important these words are, everybody.
	Can we expel New Mexico from the Union?
	Land of Enchantment.
	Land of Enchantment.
	I have a question for Charlie, honestly.
	So I'm with Jack.
	I think free speech on these, you know, in this issue, it's like, listen, I'm not trying to ban anybody.
	I don't necessarily even love it when Elon Musk weighs in and says he's going to, you know, ban people or consider it a slur and you're going to get penalized for using the word cis.
	But the great Angelo brought up in our chat a really good point.
	He said the left, Doesn't want to play by their own rules.
	They want you to respect their pronouns, but if you ask them to respect your right to disagree with it, they refuse.
	I'm really curious, Charlie, because you are big on knowing exactly what time it is, knowing that the left is not playing fair anymore.
	You think that that's self-defeating to say, hey, I don't want to ban anybody?
	You know, is this Musk playing 3D chess and we're just catching up?
	I'm with Musk on this.
	I mean, yeah, if we lived in normal times, like, yeah, say whatever you want.
	But, no, make these people understand the harm that they issue to us.
	Like, yeah, you might lose your account if you act like a jerk.
	That's what we had to deal with for five years.
	It's called justice.
	You love using that word.
	White people love you, Charlie.
	No, it's true.
	People say, oh, well, you know, it's not right.
	Oh, really?
	It's not right?
	You know what we've dealt with?
	I was put on a Twitter blacklist.
	I lost my Twitter account for two weeks because I said the Hunter Biden laptop was legit.
	And I was censored for spreading Russian disinformation.
	And you got censored for calling Rachel Levine Richard Levine.
	You dead-named her Rachel.
	Correct, yes.
	And so look, I don't rejoice in ever having to say we have to censor accounts, but it's necessary, very necessary, to use equal force and an opposite reaction against people that have never been challenged.
	They are petulant infants that only understand force.
	And it's time to metaphorically Well, we could have a whole show on whether or not you should spank your kids or not.
	Discipline them back into line, or else they'll never learn.
	That's the only thing the left understands.
	Charlie, you're reminding me of the shrieking infant from The Graduation today.
	Maybe we should play that.
	Yeah, no, let's play that.
	By the way, it went totally viral thanks to us.
	And have you not seen this, Jack?
	And by the way, everyone thinks that we're putting some sort of racial context to this.
	We're not.
	95.
	The shrieking infant at The Graduation.
	Jack, you understand we ignore like 90% of the news on The Charlie Kirk Show because it's fake and gay, okay?
	So which cut is that?
	95.
	95.
	Play cut 95.
	Let's go!
	Let's go!
	You didn't let me get my moment, so I want to say my name is Connie Giancandiano and I graduated today.
	I don't like when you snatch the mic out of my head, so today is going to be all about me.
	Oh, drops the mic.
	Congratulations!
	Okay, so this is a graduation ceremony.
	We still don't know what school.
	I think it's C-U-N-I is what somebody said.
	C-U-N-Y, which is?
	City University of New York.
	City University of New York.
	So, I don't know if that's true.
	So, apparently, she made a response video, which was ridiculous, that the person was not saying the black names as well, so she lost her mind and grabbed the mic and turned it into this narcissistic display.
	We posted it on Instagram, Twitter.
	People are thinking we're racializing it.
	We said nothing.
	We said, this is not how you should act.
	Shut up, racist!
	No, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm gonna say that you shouldn't act that way.
	I don't care about the color of your skin.
	And some people are saying, oh, her diploma should be revoked.
	I'm not even recommending or suggesting that.
	I'm saying, if you're an employer, get her name and make sure she never works for your company.
	Blake.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	It's like, you can do it now and you'll risk being caught in the crossfire or you can, you know, have her work for you and five years from now your entire company will implode.
	Yeah, she's taken over the HR department at Goldman Sachs.
	Taken over the HR department, holding like a clipboard, looking at you very angrily after, you know, you violated subsection B of provision 5 and, you know, now you have the Department of Labor all up in your grill and...
	Yeah, and so what's most depressing, Jack, about this, now that you're catching up to the real news that the Charlie Kirk Show covers, yeah, forget all this submarine stuff, Hunter Biden, we're focusing on viral videos that covered graduation.
	Breaking news.
	And so, Jack, but the most important part of the story is that the comments section, and Daisy showed us this, 99% of the comments on TikTok and Instagram are supportive of her, saying, truth to power, you challenge white supremacy, Jack.
	Well, again, you know, this is one of those things where with every viral video, I always have a, you know, the first question I always ask is, show me what happened 30 seconds before.
	So you're, they're saying it had something to do with the pronunciation of the names.
	She didn't like that.
	Uh, hi, have you seen my last name?
	How often do you think that people have gotten my last name, my Polish last name, Posobiec, as we say in English, in, uh, po polsku, posobiec.
	Um, that, uh, you know, people in the Anglosphere get it, right?
	Yeah.
	I've never flipped out or like lost my mind because somebody got my name wrong, which literally happens on a daily basis.
	We were just talking about people, um, being polite, people having manners, people being respectful.
	That's not how you act in a civilized society.
	This is the same type of fatherless behavior that we've seen, uh, across the country that Tik TOK and these other social media platforms, by and large, if you're on the left, It incentivizes them.
	It incentivizes them through dopamine rushes.
	It incentivizes them through likes and retweets and shares is the same type of people who were cheering for the ocean because there were a bunch of white rich people as well as Pakistani rich people.
	But who cares about that?
	Who were on this submarine?
	And you had people actually cheering for them to die, which is like, OK, sure.
	Like, is that the smartest idea they could have done with their money?
	Probably not.
	Right.
	Admittedly.
	But, you know, there's two human beings.
	We don't cheer for them to die just because they have money.
	And that is what these people are.
	They have created hate groups.
	They have created an incentivization for hate.
	We saw this in L.A.
	when I was at the L.A.
	Dodgers thing on Friday.
	And again, more and more in society, we incentivize this behavior.
	And when we incentivize it, we're asking for more of it.
	Okay, so that segues to our final topic, actually.
	Jack, and you brought it up.
	So, you have to wonder, you know, did this woman have a strong father around?
	I have no idea.
	Maybe, maybe not.
	So, CNN comes out and says this.
	CNN got fact-checked on Father's Day for an article arguing that actually black fathers were doing better than fathers of other races.
	Now, did CNN, Blake, include in this article that 70% of black fathers abandon the women they impregnate?
	They did not.
	They did not include that.
	In fact, the entire, the study they used, which is one, I don't know if it's an update on it, but it's one I've seen before in other contexts, And what the study will be is, it'll say, you know, if you take black fathers who are in the home, so we're gonna, they move past that and they just take the subset that are around, they'll say, these fathers are more likely to have played with their child, to have shared a meal with their child, to have helped dress, you know, do various household things with the child.
	Uh, compared to, uh, white fathers or Hispanic fathers.
	And as, uh, I will not be remotely the first person to point out, the, uh, you know, subtext of that is they're probably less likely to be employed than fathers in other households.
	And so they're, you know, more likely to be around to assist with those things.
	But what they got fact checked for on Twitter is, you know, even before that, it's just that if you actually check the facts, do we have that?
	It's very obvious, again, 70% of black men, 70%, at 75 in certain cities, abandon the women they impregnate.
	Well, the community note says 64% of black children are living absent their biological fathers.
	Hispanic children, 42%.
	Okay, I'll downgrade, but some numbers say 75.
	White children, 24%.
	- White children, 24%, and Asian children setting the bar at 16%.
	- Obviously that's because of white supremacy, right?
	So white supremacy is to blame for that.
	You know, the really depressing thing is when the Moynihan Report came out in the 1960s, where he was warning President Lyndon Johnson about the crisis of the black family and it was going to cause huge problems for society, is that when he wrote that report, the rate of fatherlessness in black homes was about that 24% that it is for even white people now.
	And it was almost non-existent.
	It's nearly tripled.
	It's tripled for them, but ours has gone up.
	I think our rate was, or white people's rate, was like three, four percent at that time, so white people's went up even more in terms of percentage.
	Well, I mean, you know, I think it's fascinating because it makes me think of two things.
	We're calling it a fact check, and I feel like this is the first time conservatives have ever had an institutionalized fact check that goes in, like, the In the direction of common sense.
	This isn't a fact check, it's a community note, right?
	Yeah, that's the correct term.
	Blake has mentioned this to me in passing and I think it's a fairly interesting question.
	And I've heard Cernovich bring this stuff up as well.
	We're living through this golden era of Twitter where we actually get to see common sense get reflected in the community notes.
	How long is it before the left completely swarms them and gets mobilized and starts coming after Community Notes?
	I just want to say this.
	I was with James Lindsay for a couple days, who I consider brilliant, and he said, boy, the last 13 months it seems as if things are really moving our way.
	What happened 13 months ago?
	Elon Musk bought Twitter.
	I will say this.
	I don't think we can emphasize enough The impact that being able to have a liberated Twitter is.
	And so many people say, oh Charlie, Elon, we get emails every day.
	Elon's the worst thing ever.
	I'm sorry, you're wrong.
	Having us be able to say what we want to say on Twitter on any one of these issues, on the Pride stuff, on the Groomer stuff, on the Target stuff, on the Dylan Mulvaney stuff, having Matt Walsh be able to say whatever he wants, be able to put Whatisawoman up there, Jordan Peterson, be able to talk about any one of these issues, Blake, that moves the Overton window massively.
	Yeah, dramatically.
	What you're allowed to say has an enormous impact on what you're allowed to think and what is allowed to be in public discourse, which is why the media enforced it so much and why it is such a cascade, especially on specific issues.
	I think the transgenderism one is a particularly strong one where You know, three years ago, even in red states, we're terrified to say, like, oh, you should, you know, stay in the bathroom of your biological sex, or we should have only women in women's sports.
	And there's some, you get a very quick cascade where it's like, oh, wait, we're actually allowed to say this is BS.
	Oh, well, wait, then we can just pass a law that says, you know, you can't do this to children.
	You can't do this.
	You can't do that.
	And There's so many things on the left that do require that very oppressive level of thought control.
	I mean, even this topic on the Father's Day thing.
	You can just look up the data and it's transparent what the reality is.
	And you can only get away with the sort of crap that CNN is pushing with this story if you have unlimited propaganda power.
	Operation Mockingbird.
	Jack, let's do the thought crime.
	Why are blacks Well, I think that when you look at something like this, you know, I think there's a thought crime there where, where you could say, you know, you know, people will expect you to say like, Oh, you know, there's, there's, it's related to intelligence or it's socially incorporated, et cetera.
	But, you know, I would actually push back a little bit, I guess, on the sort of conservative orthodoxy to this and just say, Because there's a lot of conservatives will just say like, oh, well, if you just bring the fathers around, if you force the fathers to be together, if you force child support, if you force all these different things, then you're just going to solve all the problems in the community.
	You're going to you're going to work everything out.
	Everything will be fine.
	And unfortunately, you know, these these are more complicated problems.
	And it's not like the libs want to say, oh, it's just poverty or oh, it's just root causes.
	You know, I think that by and large, a huge part of this is because what we went through in the 1960s in this country With pushing, um, pushing for these cities to become what they are today, just completely dilapidated, completely devastated by crime in so many of these societies.
	And then telling, telling a lot of people, a lot of people that it's, it's your, your racist for wanting to say something about it.
	And so you, what you had was middle-class families completely.
	And they call it white flight just moved out.
	That's why the United States has suburbs and no other industrialized country really lives that way.
	Um, they went through this, this period.
	You're starting to see more of it in parts of Western Europe, but not really.
	I might just come back from Eastern Europe, but none of this exists whatsoever because they simply don't condone these types of behaviors.
	And we go back and we look at the, the civil rights period and we say, Oh, it's this great period.
	It was a great time.
	Everything was awesome.
	And yet the 1960s were marred with insane amounts of violence, bombings and riots, race riots throughout every major city.
	Assassinations.
	Assassinations of political leaders, a US president, A U.S.
	president's brother who was running for president at the time, whose son is now running for president, obviously.
	So when you look back at the 1960s as the start of this sort of massive social upheaval and social revolution in the United States away from the norm, I think that a lot of the problems that we've seen now go back to that era and the excesses of it that we aren't even allowed to talk about anymore.
	Andrew.
	If you want to get red-pilled on the civil rights era, Look no further than what book, Charlie?
	Age of Entitlement by Christopher Caldwell.
	It is a freaking eye-opener.
	It's a game-changer.
	And we're gonna get Christopher Caldwell.
	Maybe we'll get him on ThoughtCrime.
	Maybe we'll just invite him as a special guest on ThoughtCrime.
	But I'm actively emailing with Christopher Caldwell.
	He's special.
	This book, Age of Entitlement, Ryan, if you can throw the picture up, it's worth it.
	The guy, like, we've probably sold more copies of Age of Entitlement on Charlie's.
	I think we've sold thousands of copies of this.
	But he does it really smart, really intelligently.
	He doesn't come right out of the gate and say the civil rights era was bad, right?
	Because if you come, if you grow up in America, I mean, Jack, we're similar ages.
	It's like the civil rights era is is one of our moral, great moral achievements.
	And if you start inserting.
	Yeah, right.
	You start inserting that's how you're taught.
	Yes, that's how you're taught.
	But by the way, Martin Luther King to this day, despite all the like infidelity and stuff that I've learned later, which sucks.
	I mean, it's kind of you're kind of having to come to grips with the fact that one of your heroes as a child is not really so heroic.
	I'm just telling you, it's like.
	He was he's still my hero, the the man like did some great things.
	I now have a 3D view of him, but like I fully acknowledge his courage and the fact that he did the non-peace or the non-violent protest and all that sort of thing all right so mlk was a fed apparently here's here here's what i'm trying to tell you though you go into normie culture and you bring christopher caldwell's ideas you've got to do it in a way that they can handle right so he's dropping some of the most like massive red pills
	you can ever imagine in this book but he's doing it in a way that a sociologist would do or an academic would do, but by the time-- - Very academically written, yes.
	Yeah, but if you get to the end of the book, you're like, this thing shredded our Constitution.
	Yes.
	We had no idea, and there was some dissenters, I will say, and Blake will know more about that than I will.
	At the time, there was dissenters, but they were basically pushed to the side, and what you realize is that Johnson used the assassination of JFK and the Nations in mourning And he basically weaponized the trauma that the nation was under and he said JFK would have wanted this.
	He was working on this civil rights bill.
	The problem is that JFK was working on like a very narrowly tailored civil rights bill that would have probably addressed some legitimate things.
	Johnson expanded it massively in part to win over the black vote.
	And he used it to completely shred the Constitution.
	It wasn't even what people wanted at the time, which is the most powerful part of Caldwell's book.
	Approval polls did not want a Civil Rights Act this wide-ranging, did not want this permanent standing army bureaucracy, did not want to have all that... Truthfully, that's not even in... One of the craziest things about it is that's not in the bill.
	So the Civil Rights Act of 1964 says you can't discriminate based on race.
	That's what it says.
	And what we got is over about, you know, the next, it expands slowly over time, but basically over the next decade, you get the Supreme Court and other courts and the federal bureaucracy going like, yeah, the law says that you can't discriminate based on race.
	But actually, actually, if you understand the true intent of the law.
	It requires discrimination based on race.
	Like affirmative action.
	Affirmative action, yeah.
	So now we literally in less than a decade went from no discrimination based on race to you explicitly have to weigh race in hiring people in, you know, countless convoluted ways.
	But, Blake, you brought up the fact that it wasn't even popular then.
	It's not popular now.
	I mean, in California... It's never been popular.
	Affirmative action is like the least popular thing that Democrats do, and yet Republicans don't really run against it.
	It's amazing.
	Well, here's what I'm saying.
	It's like in California, they put it on the ballot.
	Liberal California that goes like 70-30 for Biden, whatever.
	It failed, like 56 to 43 percent, and I think it was like... With no money, with no money, and on the flip side, infinite money for the, you know, pro-legalizing affirmative action side, and it just flops, and it flops everywhere.
	It's sort of like, you know, it's like their version of, unfortunately, the way all of our abortion referendums went bad last year, this is their version of it.
	Like, no matter where you put it up for a vote, affirmative action just gets killed.
	It got killed in Michigan, they had a vote, same thing.
	I can't remember the other states off the top of my head, but we have like eight or nine different states that have had an up or down vote on racial preferences, whether it's in school admissions, or in hiring, or in other government programs, and it just always fails.
	And so, here's a fact, since the Civil Rights Act passed, I think that it's fair to say, any sort of racist sentiments that are in America have gone, at least individually amongst white people, towards black people have gone away almost to the way to the other extent where now there's like white guilt overcompensating guilt but according to nicole hannah jones and ibram x kendi and others is that black america has not materially improved since the civil rights act and that's the true thought crime yeah it's it's actually gone the other way charlie
	no they're like jack they've materially become poorer since the civil rights act yeah right now the point that i wanted to bring up though and this is something that i think conservatives totally overlook is that And Andrew, you alluded to it, but you said, well, there were people who opposed it, They were just pushed away, okay?
	LBJ ordered the United States military to go into states to enforce this against people who disagreed.
	The U.S.
	military was brought in and was used to enforce this, and that's something that we don't talk about when the right talks about, oh, we're gonna have a national divorce, we're gonna go and separate into red America and blue America, and like, The left has been willing to do this since the 1960s to use military force against anyone who dissents.
	Eisenhower did it.
	Eisenhower did it in Little Rock.
	There was Eisenhower originally and then LBJ as well.
	The desegregation against Governor Wallace.
	Yes, the Little Rock Nine was under Eisenhower.
	My point is, though, it's all done in the name of desegregation.
	It's done in the name of anti-racism.
	It's done.
	And the point is the left has been willing to enact or enforce, I should say, these policies through force, while the right will sit there and say, oh, well, you know, we just all want to get along and we all want to play by the standards.
	And that's why the Overton window continues to always move to the left.
	And so when we look at this type of stuff, we say, look, you know, these are the same, by the way, the same types of policies to get back to, I think, where we started on all this.
	When we're talking about the transgender movement, we're talking about LGBT.
	They're using the exact same arguments that were that were born into U.S. law, not through the Constitution, but through the Civil Rights Act.
	That's when the social stratification started.
	And it's also where you just get every single law.
	We currently have it as federal law, thanks to a Supreme Court ruling, that you can't discriminate based on transgenderism or gender identity in hiring.
	And it turns out, the big secret was in 1964, when Congress said you can't discriminate in employment based on sex, they also included transgenderism.
	Even though I looked it up, The word transgender was not invented until a year after this bill was passed.
	But Congress totally voted to do it anyway.
	Thank you, Neil Gorsuch.
	Completely created.
	Wait, Charlie.
	Charlie, let me interject one thing here.
	So, I'm sort of behind the scenes most of the time producing this stuff.
	If you're on Rumble in the Rumble Rants, two things.
	We're going to do the deep web reveal next, but please Do Rumble Rants.
	Tell us what topic we should cover next week and questions that you have for us and we'll answer them after the Deep Web reveal.
	So go into Rumble Rants.
	Charlie will read them or Jack will read them if you leave them there.
	And tell us what topics you want and what questions you have for us today.
	Please do that, and you guys can catch us every week at 8 p.m.
	Eastern.
	You also can email me freedom at charliekirk.com as you watch it.
	We never got a good answer on the thought crime question, Jack, but I guess we'll just leave it to the audience.
	Why is it that 65% of black men abandon the women they impregnate?
	That's a question that would be really interesting to have an answer from our audience, I mean, from CNN, but I don't think they're willing to even ask the question.
	Even it might help.
	Email us freedom at charliekirk.com.
	Final thoughts, Blake?
	Uh, well, are we going into the Deep Web reveal now?
	Deep Web!
	Yep, and then we gotta wrap.
	Oh, is this real raw news?
	You've been so excited about this.
	If we don't have enough time we have to hit it again next week.
	This is a very important topic.
	With the Deep Web Reveal, we try to go into topics that are not necessarily news of the day.
	This is a topic I'm very passionate about sharing with the world.
	You guys can bring up the laptop screen so people can gaze upon it.
	There's this news website, and we get a decent number of emails about it.
	Yes, there are people in our audience that read this.
	Yeah, so there's this website called RealRawNews.com, and it must have started... I went back to its deep origins, and it kind of just started... It was literally a fake news website, and it would have articles about, like, special forces fighting, like, lizard people or insectoids in Turkey.
	And then, around 2021, when it starts with the election, it pivots into, what if I just started... The guy's like, what if we start doing news about Trump?
	And so it's this website with all these, it's got an entire alternate universe where Donald Trump is still president, there's a white hat movement in the military, they are running military tribunals in Guantanamo Bay, and they are like the bloodiest set of military tribunals that have ever existed.
	Yeah, Rochelle Walensky was just executed according to Real Law News.
	Yep, she was just executed, Gretchen Whitmer was just sentenced to death, she hasn't been executed yet.
	She was just arrested.
	I don't know who the governor of Michigan is now.
	They don't really tend to follow up on this.
	But Brian Stelter was killed.
	Brian Stelter.
	That's, I think, my all-time favorite.
	But he had a very big last meal.
	Yes, yes.
	So, like, here's an example of Brian Stelter executed.
	Make sure it's on the screen there.
	And so it's, uh, sources on the island told Real Raw News that guards roused Stelter from bed at 5 a.m.
	and told him to prepare for his big day.
	Stelter gorged himself on scrambled eggs, hash browns, sausage patties, and whole wheat toast, with one source saying the breakfast could have fed five inmates.
	No sooner had he finished eating than he began sobbing uncontrollably and rambling incoherently about how he, A world-famous broadcaster with millions of fans was a victim of malicious prosecution, whose only crime was endearing himself to young boys, in whom he saw enormous potential.
	Yes, in Real Raw News, Brian Stelter is also a pedophile in their reporting.
	Oh, is that right?
	In real life, there is no evidence of this.
	I want to be very clear, so he does not angrily sue us.
	Uh, but in the real Raw News universe, he, uh, said he had only touched children the way he himself had been touched as a child.
	And when he's led to the gallows, he sobs and says, if, if you too were born a minor attracted person, it might be your head going in the noose.
	I can't help who I am.
	You'll have time for final words in a moment here, says Admiral Darcy Crandall.
	I'm not sure how you say his name.
	But this is a real Admiral, by the way.
	Oh, so they mix facts with things that aren't true?
	Darcy Crandall is a real guy, and I really wonder what he thinks about all of this, because he is the star of Real Raw News.
	He's killing all sorts of people.
	He kills Adam Schiff.
	Adam Schiff faces a firing squad, but they, like, miss.
	And so he's doing the worm on the ground, the article says.
	You can bring it up here again.
	Shifty Adam Schiff.
	There's a lot of creativity put into this.
	Yeah, it's a really vibrant universe.
	Like, no one ever just has a clean kill.
	They always, like, beg for their lives.
	One of them kind of was demonically possessed.
	When Tom Hanks gets executed, he gets sentenced to death, and he's just like, you may kill this body, but you cannot kill us, for we are legion.
	And he's, like, really demonic.
	Oh, yeah, right out of the Book of Luke.
	Yeah.
	Go ahead, Andrew.
	No, go ahead.
	Jack, why does Real Raw News matter?
	So it reminds me of and I don't know if you guys remember this, but there used to be that sort of supermarket tabloid called Weekly World News.
	They used to have stories about Bat Boy.
	They used to have stories about the, you know, the civilizations found on the bottom of the moon and the bottom of the sea and the earth and, you know, inside the earth, whatever that, you know, come out every week.
	And it was it was fun and it was silly.
	But, you know, people sort of had this understanding that you never were going to take it all that Seriously, with Real Raw News, I think it serves that same sort of satirical element where they're taking stories from real life, real life figures, people who have generated in in many cases, obviously, either, you know, if you're on the left, you support these people.
	If you're on the right, you you may dislike these people very much.
	And so what what this is doing, it's it's basically fan fiction, right?
	It's the idea of having fan fiction written out so that you can go into those dark fantasy worlds and then read your real raw news to see how the alternate universe was playing out.
	It is a little deeper than that, I think.
	First of all, if you check the stats on the traffic for real raw news, it gets more readers than like The New Republic.
	Is that right?
	Like, multi-million views, and if you read the comments, and every article has hundreds of comments.
	Like, let me just check this random one.
	319 comments on the one I have up right now.
	And there's a lot of people who, like, obviously, I assume a lot don't take it seriously, but some do, because they contact our show.
	Yeah, I don't know how many, but I've been to events.
	I was at an event once at a church, and they said, Charlie, you know that Mark Milley's been executed.
	And I said, what do you mean?
	And they said, well, I read Real Raw News.
	That's not a joke.
	It really happened.
	There's a clip where there was, I think, in early 22, right after Fauci got executed on Real Raw News, and someone's interviewing someone at this COVID thing, and this woman is like, well, the good news is Fauci's dead now.
	And they're like, what?
	And she's like, he's dead.
	He's been taken care of.
	And she seems 100% serious about it.
	The other reason, though, that I think the site is interesting is it does get into There is a certain psychological, there is a wish fulfillment element to it.
	And it's not necessarily the most upbeat one.
	One that I think is very revealing is John Podesta.
	In the universe of Real Raw News, Hillary Clinton's dead.
	She was one of the first ones executed.
	Huma Abedin, her lover, revealed that she was abducting children from Haiti to sell to pedophiles.
	And so they convicted her for treason and executed her.
	And another source of evidence, though, is John Podesta.
	And John Podesta takes a plea deal with these White Hat people in Gitmo, where he will give all the details on Hillary, and afterwards they will show clemency.
	They'll just give him life in prison.
	And so, you know, Hillary's executed.
	And then they have this article here, which you can bring it up on the laptop again.
	Military revokes Podesta plea deal.
	Let him hang!
	And so they just say, like, uh, you know, we looked at the details again and actually, uh, Podesta's gonna die.
	We're just gonna, we're just gonna withdraw and execute him because he's a bad dude.
	And there's other trials where someone will be like, I have the right to an attorney and they'll, like, just punch them in the face and they'll be like, you are an enemy combatant without rights.
	So there is this element where people who want to believe this also want the system to be unfair.
	Like they like the idea that these people are squirming while we're just like, ha ha, the rules, you don't have any rights.
	And then they get executed by guillotine.
	And by the way, what you're missing though, what you're missing is that MSNBC does this for the left and has been doing it for years.
	If you watch Joy Reid, this is, she's, remember when they would talk about, oh, Trump's got the secret service there and the secret service are going to get in a standoff with the FBI when they come in.
	Like you don't have to go to some blog on the internet to find it if you're on the left.
	It's just literally right there at Cable News.
	Jack, that's so genius.
	I totally agree with you.
	I think this is like, I can't even tell you how many emails and Blake, Charlie, you guys can attest, we get legitimate emails.
	Most of the emails that we get at freedom at charliekirk.com are really smart, really like on it.
	But there's a good amount of people that you can tell have been reading Real Raw News.
	That's why we chose it.
	It's not some sort of weird fringe thing.
	It's consumed.
	And by the way, according to Real Raw News, Jeff Sessions, they just dropped all charges against Jeff Sessions.
	He's the only one I've seen be acquitted.
	I've been reading this for two years.
	He's the only acquittal.
	Everyone else has been convicted.
	Not everyone's gotten the death penalty, but he's the only one who's been acquitted.
	Was there a deal?
	Did he have to provide information of some sort?
	No, it seems the response they said is that Trump made a personal call to Guantanamo Bay and he said, this is a mistake.
	He says that Jeff Sessions resigning was not him being fired.
	It was kind of part of a secret operation that didn't work out and he can't reveal the details.
	And they were like, we're sorry, Mr. President.
	And remember, he's still president.
	No, that's right.
	According to The Real Raw News, Trump is still president.
	Yes, yes.
	And, in fact, Biden is not in the White House.
	The White House is being guarded by Marines for Trump's triumphant return when he can reveal the truth to everyone.
	And, for now, it's just empty.
	And Biden, who is played by an actor, is in, like, a studio in Delaware or something.
	I have a couple questions.
	Do we know if this is, like, the Babylon Beasts side hustle?
	Like, who's writing these things?
	It's all a guy named... Go ahead.
	So you can do the second one, and then I'll answer both.
	Alright, but secondly, like, I think to Jack's point, the reason these things go viral and there's, like, so many views on these pages is because the right has been starved of actual consequences for the people that have hurt, like, our country, and that got Trump impeached twice, and that are trying to put him in prison for life, and we can all see it clear as day, but the other half is living in their own information silo, and they can't see it, and so we've created this alternate universe, this fantasy
	Fan fiction to sort of, I don't know, sort of satiate this need to see actual justice, albeit in this really dark way.
	I'm not saying these people deserve to get executed, but I think this is like a really fascinating psychological study of what we've become in this era where the left owns all the institutions and we're just sitting here going like, when are we going to see anything besides Eric Clinesmith getting a slap on the wrist and then going to practice law in DC again, even though he helped He conspired to get Trump impeached, right?
	When are we going to see anything?
	That's very true.
	I think that is what people are grasping for, though I do have to say some people are very, very gullible, I suppose.
	The guy who writes it, it's all by some guy who calls himself Michael Baxter.
	I don't know if that's a pseudonym or not.
	He does raise money on GiveSendGo, and he's raised, like, many tens of thousands of dollars.
	Is that right?
	Yeah, on his GiveSendGo platform to I mean, I'm not surprised.
	I kind of want to donate to him.
	You know, you check Citizen Free Press every day.
	I do.
	Real Raw News is, in fact, the only news site that I literally check every single day.
	I have Citizen Free Press up right now.
	And you could combine the two and have a lot of power.
	Citizen Free Press should link Real Raw News as well.
	Everybody, email us your thoughts freedom at charliekirk.com.
	Jack, final thoughts, then Andrew, Blake, and then I'll close it out.
	Yeah, no, I think like with a lot of these things, I think that there are simple answers to all of them.
	I think there's simple answers to what's going on in the inner city.
	I know Benny Johnson was up in Philadelphia in my old stomping grounds at K&A, Kensington and Allegheny, seeing the human depravity there.
	There's simple answers to all of these problems, but the left doesn't want to hear them.
	Andrew.
	Well, I'm going to get to the Rumble Rant here.
	We have KRZEJules4DJT.
	Please do this show more than once a week.
	Addicted to y'all from the AZ nightly vote counting fiasco.
	Oh, she's talking about when we were doing the nightly after Carrie Lake, and then before that after Trump, and we were doing the breakdowns of the election.
	And then we have B2 American topic, why do liberal white women believe that they must sustain the liberal agenda when they aren't the victim.
	Charlie, I know you have a lot of thoughts on this.
	Why do white liberal women do what?
	Believe that they must sustain the liberal agenda when they aren't the victim.
	Oh, I get it.
	Oh, white guilt.
	Yeah, I mean, white liberal women are largely, you know, devoid of purpose.
	They don't have husbands who satisfy them, and so they look for other purpose.
	And whether it be Xanax, Valium, Wine, or BLM, they have to find something to fill that void.
	Jack?
	No, I think Charlie's largely right.
	You will see more BLM flags in white liberal suburbs than you do in actual black Uh, neighborhoods in the inner city.
	It's, it's just like, you'll see more, uh, shrines to George.
	I was actually in Annapolis, um, in 2020 and at the end of like, you know, the, where the, the Navy Academy is that, uh, there's this huge mega yacht, um, you know, Harbor there.
	And they have like a shrine to George Floyd.
	And I remember thinking that like, you know, none of you people are going to put George Floyd and his buddies on one of your yachts.
	You're not going to sail up, you know, that Annapolis isn't that far from Baltimore.
	Right.
	The Chesapeake Bay, sail up there and see if you're going to let any of the boys from the Wire hop on your boat.
	Yeah, you're not going to do that.
	But of course, they put it up to make themselves feel better.
	And this really, White Guild is just sort of the modern iteration of white man's burden, something that popped up throughout colonialism and the British Empire.
	And Kipling has an interesting writing on it.
	Blake, final thoughts?
	Really quick, just to make sure we do get every shout, because they do donate money, we have tablet0pjoe.
	He asked us, we mentioned the spanking debate.
	Without getting too much into it, can I get an idea of where you all stand?
	Got to do it next week.
	Next week we'll discuss spanking.
	Is it right for corporal punishment for children?
	That'll be fun.
	That'll be fun.
	And he also, the same guy actually sent us, just supporting the new show, The World Needs to Hear More from Jack and Charlie.
	And he left me out, so I won't say any more.
	Any final thoughts, guys, before we sum it up?
	Anybody?
	Wait, I want to make one comment on the liberal white girl.
	I'm reminded of that gal.
	I forget who it was.
	Maybe you guys remember, but she was doing a seminar for white liberal women where she was telling them how racist they were and they were paying to be subjugated to this.
	Saira Rao?
	Are you talking about Saira Rao?
	No, yeah, it was a black woman who was doing a pay-for event around a well-lit table of white women to berate them of how racist they were.
	I think it was Saira Rao.
	I think she's Indian ethnically or some South Asian and it was like race to dinner or something and she would do these dinners with white women.
	A friend of mine wanted to host one of these dinners and I would have gone in drag and taken part in it and just been like, I'm a woman, because they can't say I'm not a woman, but never actually came together before we decided to do other things with our lives than spend thousands of dollars on a fake race dinner.
	Yeah, but I mean it fills a void, right?
	I mean, race and trans stuff If you are secular and you don't have a marriage that you're satisfied with, and you don't go to church, you don't believe in the divine, you fill that void with these synthetic practices.
	And so that's what drives liberal women, a lot of them.
	And they lean on the academia environment a lot of them came from.
	All right guys, we'll see you next week or tomorrow on our show.
	Make sure you watch Jack's shows as well.
	God bless you guys as we say goodnight with Celine Dion.

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