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June 25, 2023 - Human Events Daily - Jack Posobiec
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I have no idea if this still works.
I haven't actually tried to do one of these in like, I don't know, probably a few years to be honest, but I saw a bunch of people saying, oh hey, can we do, you know, an emergency periscope?
Well, we don't have periscope anymore, but we do have Twitter Live and Twitter Live
with without video which is just audio and I think I can read your comments so a lot of people are asking me I have no idea if this still works I haven't actually tried to do one of these in like I don't know probably a few years to be honest but I saw a bunch of people saying oh hey can we do you know an emergency periscope
Well, we don't have Periscope anymore, but we do have Twitter Live, and Twitter Live without video, which is just audio, and I think I can read your comments.
So, a lot of people are asking me what happened today, what was going on, and more importantly, why was it that all the sort of Kremlinologist, very important and very smart people, got it completely wrong?
And what's so interesting to me, what I really, what I really find striking is that all of those people, like Pete Zahan, like Michael McFowell, obviously Adam Kinzinger, all these people who were told are the great Neoliberal thinkers the great geniuses of foreign policy They all fell flat on their face.
I mean Pete Zahan
Was even going around saying that this is the end of Russian military operations around the world That Russia was gonna have to pull out of Ukraine and then go all the way back to Moscow to defend the motherland against against Purgosian he also claimed just just completely off the rails claimed that That Tucker Carlson was going to endorse Purgosian because he's an ultra nationalist and it was going to become this
Sort of like I guess he was trying to say that Tucker is a nationalist and Purgosian is a nationalist and therefore Tucker wanted Purgosian to be the the head of Russia even though obviously Purgosian was nowhere near in any situation whatsoever to be the head of Russia.
I mean this was maybe maybe at most a thousand guys and even then I think that's being fairly generous because the idea that every single member of the Wagner group was backing Purgosian's play I think was silly and yet Peter Zahan and a whole bunch of people totally went along with it.
This essentially ended up being a PSYOP.
Now the question of course is whether You know, in to use the pro-wrestling parlance, you know, was it a shoot, a work or a worked shoot?
So a shoot is when something is real, a work is when something is fake, but Kabuki theater, you know, with the audience, and then a worked shoot is something that is intended to look real, but ultimately is prescripted.
And You know, I think that anybody out there that's telling you they know exactly what's going on inside Russia at any given time is just trying to sell you something.
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Sleep even better than Prygosian, because you know that guy's gonna be sleeping with one eye open tonight in Belarus.
So, so yeah, Prygosian and Shoigu, who's the current head of the Russian Ministry of Defense, They've been going at it for a long time, or I should say, actually, Purgosian's been going after Shoigu for a long time.
So he's kind of like, he's the head of the Russian military.
I would compare him to General Milley, at least in terms of his position, but comparing him to Milley brings up a whole bunch of things that probably aren't fair, because I don't think he's ever been giving lectures on white rage.
So he's sort of like their Chairman of the Joint Chiefs slash Secretary of Defense rolled into one.
And there have been questions as to whether or not he was particularly on the side of Putin.
Did Putin want to get Shoigu out?
And then Putin was using Purgosian as a leverage point against Shoigu.
This has all been out there.
Russian analysts have been talking about this.
Western analysts have been talking about this.
but not at the super professional, you know, CNN, Fox News, corporate media level.
People who actually look into the geopolitics on a regular basis have been paying attention to this.
And of course, a lot of people have been pointing out that a guy like Purgosian has been making this very public disagreement with Shoigu and taking it to an extreme level, At one point, he was posing with the dead bodies of Wagner soldiers and saying it was Shoigu's fault, complaining he wasn't getting ammo, complaining he wasn't getting support, etc, etc.
And so all of these issues came about.
And obviously, in any serious military command structure, you would not have, and I said this on War Room this morning, You wouldn't have someone who's able to speak that publicly that loudly to so many people and so of course As I said again this morning, that led me to believe that whatever this situation is going into it, that it's not going to end well for Purgosian.
He's either going to essentially get nuked from outer space by this suicide run into Moscow, or he's going to cut a deal and have to go away.
Because you look at it, the Wagner Group has gotten to a point where The tension between the Russian Ministry of Defense so the Russian army and the Wagner group had reached a boiling point and There was this contractual dispute that it was coming down over the past couple of weeks would The Wagner group be rolled into the Russian army and this is similar to what Russia did down in the Donbass with those
The DPR and the LPR they had people's militias basically of locals that organized fighting back and this is going back to 2014 and They were sort of local territorial militias of volunteers that later got legitimized by the Russian army and then brought in as Regular units, so it looks as though that's what the Kremlin was trying to do here That's what Putin was trying to do with Wagner group.
But of course Purgosian didn't want that because he and A good number of the the Top fighters the best fighters in Wagner group the special operations forces guys are former soft guys Former Spetsnaz, etc.
They didn't want to be part of the Ministry of Defense That was one of the reasons they had left the Russian army in the first place.
And so all of this comes to a head Purgosian says I'm going to go ahead and push this.
Never came out and actually criticized Putin by name.
Putin also never criticized Prigozhin by name.
Putin also very rarely talks about Zelensky, although he did very recently talk about him directly.
So I called him a shame to his ancestors, etc.
But for the most part of the last couple of years, he's not really spoken directly about him or certainly not used his name.
And so the question for us, you know, what's going on?
What's next?
So it looks like Purgosian is heading to Belarus.
Wagner group, it remains to be seen whether or not they will return to the fight, whether or not they will be folded in under a new name, a new division.
They might become the Wagner Corps, the Wagner, you know, the Wagner division, which gets sent out along with the regular Russian army.
A lot of things remain to be seen there, but of course the crazy part of this the crazy part of this is Whether or not Whether or not there are any elements of the West involved and it certainly doesn't seem like it because you didn't see any provocations by Western intelligence services you essentially had 24 hours of a free hand because they had no clue what was going on and the Ukrainian
Defense Ministry posted something we are watching.
We are watching.
Okay, well, you sat there and watched for 24 hours that you had an open goal.
Ukraine had an open goal for 24 hours, and they didn't capitalize it on all at all, which, and I said this on Telegram, that to me speaks to their capacities, speaks to their capabilities, uh whether or not they have the ability to strike back that hard the way that they want us to think they do because
hey you had 24 hours of an open goal on where while russian command and control was completely um frozen and nothing Nothing happened, essentially.
A couple of tanks rolled into Rostov, you saw a few military columns on their way to Moscow a few hours away, and then everything just fell apart.
And, you know, I remember being in a war room this morning, and there was another guy on there who was just, you know, saying, it's on, and really pushing this Russian Civil War narrative, and I remember thinking that it just didn't make any sense.
I said, you know, no, it's either a suicide run or a PSYOP or some part of both.
But anyway, I just said, obviously, the numbers are nowhere near large enough to topple the Russian government.
It's just not going to happen.
And the idea that the generals, and Bannon asked me, he said, do you think the generals are going to side with the insurrection?
I just started like almost laughing.
What do you mean?
These are the generals that were appointed by Putin.
The oligarchs were appointed by Putin.
That's how the regime works.
It's kind of like China and Xi Jinping right now.
There's no ability.
ability for, no, okay, the Wagner group, you could say, well, they came out and pushed back, so, and obviously rebelled here, you know, so was there a chance that somebody else could do that?
Not after today.
After today, it's just not happening.
And Wagner group was a very special situation.
Prigozhin had the ability to, and he's been very public.
He's made himself the public face of a lot of different aspects of this operation.
He posts videos all the time.
He posts directly to Telegram.
He's got over a million followers on there.
And so the ability of him to directly connect to people, directly connect to the Russian people, say that he's fighting on their behalf, play up this sort of, you know, populist nationalist role, was a lot stronger than it's been for any other Any other leader in Russia any other one of these oligarchs?
And so of course, so of course, you know the idea that anyone else would do that Is I think pretty far-fetched Plus he's always been given this long leash and up until today had been pretty much given a free hand as though although it seems like behind the scenes they were trying to rein in Purgosian they were trying to pull the leash back in and That's where this contractual dispute came from, which of course Putin would have been behind.
So he essentially sided with the Ministry of Defense, Purgosian didn't want that, and so that led to the tensions that we saw spill over today.
But anyway, I'd love to be able to take some comments and questions because we haven't done that in forever here live, so let's go.
Someone said, they had me thinking of nukes being lost and taking over taken over by rebels.
I mean, even if they were able to surround a nuclear facility, that doesn't necessarily mean, like a nuclear weapon isn't just fired by a joystick, like it's a Titanic submarine.
A nuclear weapon has an extremely long chain of command.
You have to know the current, at least in the United States, you have to know the current codes and not just any codes.
You have to have a number of levels of sign off for that.
Nuclear warheads aren't always armed on a regular basis.
And even if they are, they're deep within the facility.
It's not like you can just roll up to the building and control the nukes.
So, you know, I don't think that there's any real threat that nuclear weapons were ever going to fall into rebel hands.
Is Belarus heavily pro-Russian?
Belarus and Russia are very close.
Yes.
How?
How is Zelensky involved?
Well, he's not involved, and that's the interesting part.
Zelensky's the only person, I said this this morning as well, Zelensky's the only person that you saw openly supporting Purgosian, other than pro-Western or pro-NATO commentators.
He was the only guy, the only world leader that we really saw supporting Purgosian.
And then he released a statement saying that the office of Vladimir Zelensky is very disappointed that Purgosian's decision to turn back.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, we all know how Zelensky loves sending people and soldiers on suicide missions, so there you go.
Do I think the CIA was involved?
You know, I don't think so.
I don't think so in this case.
It's just too Russian.
It's too, too much involved with the military structure.
And if, if Purgosian had been caught working with the CIA, I mean, he's done.
He's a dead man walking, which I suppose still could, still could occur.
Or, or perhaps there's a question of, you know, you know, what do you do then?
You know, it's, it's a, we flipped him once, we'll flip him back.
So he's a double agent.
He's a triple agent.
I don't know.
I don't know, it gets too complicated.
So there have been some reports that Shoigu might be losing his job, that there could be some reshuffling going on at the Ministry of Defense, and I think that remains to be seen.
I don't know if they would make the news publicly right away, because obviously they wouldn't want to look as though this had been a real threat, or that Purgosian's actions were the direct cause of it, but it certainly remains something to keep an eye on.
And we have seen that reported.
Yes, I've seen all of Purgosian's ads.
Yes.
Someone says, please tell Mike Lindell to ship my pillows to Saudi Arabia, the KSA.
I will certainly let him know.
What was Purgosian's endgame?
Well, so certainly, if Ukraine had been more successful in its counteroffensive, because remember, so the Wagner Group was the lead in winning the Battle of Bakhmut.
Against an extremely large amount of Ukrainian soldiers that that city became a meat grinder and This essentially was and I did a whole episode on this recently on human events.
This was the largest battle of the 21st century.
And so Prigozhin winning that obviously gave him a lot of credibility within Russia and a lot of credibility with the soldiery to include his contract soldiers, the mercenaries, the regular rank and file soldiers, and even these conscripts that the regular rank and file soldiers, and even these conscripts that they've been talking about, some of which include people from the Central Asian Republic of Russia, as well as convicts who've been let out, et cetera, et
So if Ukraine had been more successful in their counteroffensive, Prigozhin potentially could have had some actual Russian units side with him.
But of course, that wasn't the case.
And again, that's speculative.
Do I think Russia used this to move their troops around?
Well, I did put up a tweet about this and I said that in this case, what we did see in Russia were a large amount of irregular troop movements, ones that would have been otherwise picked up by the intelligence community and our spy satellites, our imagery analysts.
And people would have been asking, why did Russia move these troops?
And on a regular basis, if there had been no Wagner column, they would have said, well, potentially this is to set up an offensive with Ukraine.
There's been a lot of talk about a potential offensive in northern Ukraine, because Ukraine at the moment is focused completely on Donbass and Zaporizhia, which is all the way down south.
And so in Kharkov province, or Oblast, this area in the north, which of course Russia lost at one point because of a very similar situation, because it had only been guarded by these sort of National Guard, territorial defense troops, basically police officers because it had only been guarded by these sort of National Guard, territorial defense troops, basically police officers in uniform, that at one point a ton of Ukrainian volunteers and the foreign legion, these international forces came in to take out
these international forces came in to take out these, you know, or take this territory back in the north.
It's heavily forested up there.
It's not like the lowland farms in the south where Zaporizhia, Kherson, Mykolaiv, this part, Odessa, where all that is that's closer to the coast.
And so, yeah, maybe.
I think maybe.
But certainly, Kadyrov and the Chechens, because we know we're on the move today.
There's a real question as to what the Chechens are up to.
And I'd keep an eye on Kadyrov.
Does Belarus have an army in the fight?
Well, that's two questions.
Belarus certainly has an army, although Belarus's army has not been deployed other than at the borders of Belarus.
So Belarus contains an order, it has an order, a border with Ukraine.
It also has a border with Poland.
In the north it has borders with Lithuania, Latvia.
And then, of course, its entire eastern border is with Russia.
So Belarus's army is mostly just focused on the borders.
It is not, of course, taking on or taking in any of the fighting.
Why did he march on Moscow?
Did he think he could actually accomplish a coup?
I don't think he could have accomplished a coup.
I think Purgosian, what he was looking for was leverage within the Kremlin.
I think he was looking to test the Kremlin.
I think there were elements there that he saw moving against him.
He wanted to see if Putin would push back on those elements and give him back full control of Wagner Group.
I think that his position within Wagner Group and Truly the the actual constitution of Wagner group as this private military Corporation was being eroded and I think that that may be what ended up being the incitement situation now Does Wagner attack from Belarus now?
Okay, so I see a lot of people saying Will Wagner attack from Belarus?
But of course, go back to what we've been told.
We don't know yet the full accounting of this deal.
And just because Prigozhin has been sent or will be sent to Belarus, we don't know if a sizable amount of troops will go with him, a division level of troops will go with him,
maybe an element goes with him, maybe some of his closest fighters, maybe an element goes with him, maybe some of his closest fighters, maybe some of the top guys that were around him, like Utkin, who was one of the military commanders, who we've been told, again, it's very hard to find out what's going on, but we've been told that he was also a member of this military And so the idea that we know that all of Wagner Group is being sent over to Belarus,
I think that's wrong I think I think Prokhorin goes probably a small amount of his closest Associates go and that's it and it looks to me and I'm what I'm trying to explain is that much much more of the currently constituted Wagner group gets rolled into the Russian military.
However, that shakes out a You know, we'll see.
Whether the convicts have to go back, it's set free, contracts be, you know, be rewritten, be let up for conscripts, right?
We don't know.
We just don't know yet.
But it's not like, and I've seen this in the mainstream media, it's not like all of the 25,000 Wagner fighters are suddenly going to be in Belarus.
That narrative is completely false.
When they say Wagner returned to their camps, they're talking about the front lines.
This is fun.
We haven't done one of these in a while.
What's up Marley?
What's up Janet?
Colin?
What's up everybody?
How does it affect the Ukraine war?
Well, if anything, it's going to, as I said before, Putin is going to be in more direct control.
Putin is going to have a freer hand now.
He's not going to have to worry directly about placating this guy Purgosian anymore.
And I think what this really ends up being is a Liliana, I miss Periscope as well.
What this ended up being was a loyalty test.
It ends up being a loyalty test.
It functions as a loyalty test for Putin.
I mean, imagine if there were any officials behind the scenes or publicly that came out on the side of Purgosian.
I would hate to be those guys right now.
Yeah, your days are numbered.
You might as well just go out back and start digging your grave.
Someone said the lack of a Kenny says the lack of aggression on the Russian side is telling this was probably a distraction Look, I said this morning that it was very Very strange that none of the videos I saw showed anyone firing even some of the tanks had their muzzle covers in place That's your dirt cover, but it was it was very odd very odd videos.
I Well, I mean, it's, you know, the United States certainly has a number of elements that we use throughout the world.
If you don't like the Wagner Group, wait till you find out who the United States funds in the Middle East, okay?
That's all I got to say, because, yeah, we don't exactly have the best position, moral position, to be able to say anything about that.
But if if you're looking at it from that perspective, yes, Wagner does have a huge footprint in Africa and so and the Middle East, respectively.
And so we're definitely going to have to wonder what will become of that.
Again, that'll be part of the restructuring.
Was this a ruse to out the enemies within the military?
I think there are elements of that.
I think there are elements of there are elements that That will be found out in this, for sure.
What do I make of that?
Well, as I said before, even publicly, a lot of people have been pointing out that Purgosian and Shoigu have nearly gone to blows, and so it's really not been any secret.
If their camps mean the front lines, does that mean they've fully integrated into the Russian army already?
No, I don't think so.
I think it's more of just a neutral standpoint for them to be able to go say... Because what you're essentially saying is that you're going to be leaving Russia.
So they're going to be leaving Russia proper.
They're going to be leaving integrated Russian territory.
Essentially what they're saying is, we will not pose a threat to you or the regime.
And so that's really the main point and the main thrust of the front lines part.
This integration into the Russian army, that's going to come over time, but it is more than likely coming now.
Snazzy here is saying the videos look sus, the citizens look very relaxed and unconcerned.
And that's exactly right.
People were taking selfies.
I was certainly posting a lot of memes about it at one point they started putting flowers in the barrels of these of these tank cannons and There was a graduation In Russia and Eastern Europe, when school graduations take place, they usually get really dressed up.
The boys wear suits, the girls all wear beautiful dresses, and they would go out into the center of town and take photos and maybe do a little dance or something, and it looks like one of those Because today was a Saturday, after all.
So because that had already been scheduled, it looks like they still went along with it in Rostov, even though they had tanks in the background.
And I said, that's essentially Slavic culture in one image.
The girls are in beautiful dresses, and then the guys are all dressed up in their military fatigues, wearing body armor, full plates, full rounds of magazines, and the tanks sitting right there.
I don't support the war at all, but why not hope Ukraine win?
Big Poso supporter just want thoughts.
Well, of course, there's a question there.
What does Ukraine winning mean?
Does Ukraine winning mean that Ukraine is able to take back the Donbas?
Personally, I don't think that's in America's national interest one way or the other.
It's a territorial dispute between the two of them.
I agree with Governor DeSantis' original comments on that before he walked them back to Tucker Carlson.
I just don't think that's something that plays a role for the United States as far as pushing Russia out of Crimea.
That's just silly.
I really don't think it's going to happen.
And then, more to the point, the reason that I don't support the war is because, like I said, I've traveled there, I've met families there, I've helped raise money for the people who are caught in the crossfire here, and they don't deserve this.
They don't deserve the level of insanity that's going on, they don't deserve the killing, they don't deserve the bombing, they don't deserve any of it left or right, and now we already have
The news that Ukraine and Russia, one month or even maybe even less than a month into this whole thing, had been working on a peace treaty and then the West, the US and UK, worked to undo that hard-fought peace, worked to undo any negotiations, worked to blast it, and then turned around and sent more money just so that more people could be killed, so that more people could die.
And when I look at the situation and I say, How are we going to end this as quickly as possible with the least amount of bloodshed?
And I'm sorry, guys, but this is the real world.
And in the real world, Russia is never going to give up their Black Sea fleet.
And so once you use that as a starting point, then you can start to consider alternative options for negotiations.
Who is the Gang of Eight?
The Gang of Eight is the highest level of Republicans, Democrats in the House and Senate on the Intel Committee.
So it's like the top four on each.
Someone said the Turkish could look more believable.
That was a real cool real cool.
However, the Turkish coup definitely was Definitely was Us-backed liking this episode of human events nightly Oh human events nightly.
Yeah, we had human events daily What is my stance on Putin?
He is currently the leader of Russia.
I don't think he's particularly threatened by anyone else or any real rivals within Russia.
Prigozhin could have represented potentially a rival down the line, but I don't think he was really threatening him at any point right now.
I've said before, I think the Ukraine war is a mistake.
I think it was foolhardy for Russia to go in there.
Obviously, they've lost their economic and energy leverage with Europe.
They've lost their financial connectivity with the rest of the world.
They are going to have long-term problems because of this.
Obviously, Nord Stream 2 is at the bottom of the sea right now.
and They're essentially the junior partner now in an alliance with China.
That being said, the best role for the United States in this should not be to drive Russia and China together.
Instead, we should be seeking rapprochement and the ability to separate Russia and China and hopefully, and in hopes, to pit the other two great powers.
I mean, there's three powers in the world, right?
There's three great powers.
There's the United States, China, and there's Russia.
So right now the United States, through its policy, US and our allies, particularly in Western Europe, have pushed Russia and China together.
I think this will go down in history as one of the great blunders, one of the greatest blunders in world history in foreign affairs of all time.
If the United States does not seek to change course very rapidly before this spills over into a two front, I say that on the show every day, on human events, a two front global conflict.
This is the Mearsheimer's warning and we must heed Mearsheimer's warning or else we can run into World War III.
That of course being number one, the proxy war that we've seen in Ukraine that is obviously already spilled over into internal tension and instability within Russia, which of course makes Russia less stable, which is not good for Ukraine, which is not good for Europe, which is not good which is not good for Ukraine, which is not good for Europe, which And And then if we continue exacerbating tensions vis-a-vis Taiwan, that's how we could get into a shooting war with the CCP.
A shooting war with the CCP definitely ends with at least one US aircraft carrier at the bottom of the East China Sea, at the bottom of the Taiwan Strait, and More than likely.
More than likely leads to a place that's very close to World War III.
So that's my stance.
Wouldn't it all simply end if the West simply stopped funding it?
Yes.
Why would Purgosian Wagner revolt against fighting isn't this what they get paid to do?
Well, it's not necessarily a Revolt against fighting it's that they don't want to be fighting for the Ministry of Defense They don't it's about who has control over Wagner and Wagner forces obviously Purgosian has had an extreme degree of autonomy up until this point and has been the face of Russian military force around the world whether it be
In Africa whether it be in Syria and now in Ukraine and so this idea that The idea that he would be wanting to he's a very wealthy guy so this I think these questions about about You know Purgosian.
Oh, he got bought off or something.
I know I don't think that makes sense really because he's extremely independently wealthy.
He doesn't need He just doesn't need that much money So that's it's not about that.
It's more about control over Wagner.
I And someone said, again, would it simply end with the West stopped funding it?
It would.
And in fact, there are even-- and Steve Bannon reported this on War Room, according to War Room sources, that this very week, Five Democrat senators high level behind the scenes have been saying that if Ukraine does not show significant gains in their current counteroffensive, then these Democrat senators will start to begin to slow down the funding.
And this is what obviously Trump talks about all the time.
but When he says, I'll have this done in 24 hours, obviously what he's referring to is on one hand, credible threats directly to Putin.
And then number two, uh, cutting off the supply of money to Zelensky, uh, with a two pronged carrot and stick approach there to say, I want to end the war as opposed to, I want to prolong the war.
He would probably be able to do that very quickly.
Because again, it's a proxy war.
And in a proxy war, the main actor has almost total leverage over the proxy force.
So the United States as the main benefactor, the United States as the main belligerent, if you will, because the United States has been solely and extremely so supportive of Ukraine in terms of the material, in terms of weapons, in terms of money and just funding.
If that weren't able to be cut, Ukraine simply would not be able to continue fighting and would be forced to negotiate immediately.
What kind of role do I think Russia plays in biblical end time events?
You know, I don't claim to be an eschatology expert.
You could say the United States isn't mentioned anywhere in the Book of the Apocalypse, aka the Book of Revelations, though Gog and Magog are, and I've seen a lot of people make the argument that Gog and Magog are Iran and Russia, but I would also point out that We don't necessarily know that to be true, so that is just one theory.
Yeah, exactly right.
It would have been over a year ago if Boris Johnson didn't go to Ukraine and mess up the peace deal.
Yeah, exactly right.
Do I think this ends before US troops are even more directly involved than they are right now?
It's possible, though I would honestly say that I think it's more likely that NATO troops would get involved and not directly US troops.
troops.
I don't think that U.S.
troops are going to get immediately involved.
I think that even for the Biden administration, that would just be a bridge too far, and then especially because they are still reeling, really, from the Afghanistan debacle.
Does Wagner use promo code POSO?
Are they going to have to now?
Does the U.S.
really use PMCs?
They're as brutal as Wagner.
What are some examples?
Well, okay, so Blackwater slash Academy, Eric Prince is an example of a PMC, but that's not the only type of group the United States finances.
The United States finances, quote unquote, rebel groups throughout the Middle East and throughout parts of Africa.
And in times, at times, we've been told that they are moderate jihadists and moderate rebels that have been receiving American funding, American Stinger missiles, American javelins.
The United States even funds the Azov Battalion.
So go and go ask about the Azov Battalion.
What is Poland's main stance?
Poland wants Ukraine to win outright.
By and large, the ruling party in Poland has called for a direct, very close to direct conflict with Russia, and has called for Putin to be arrested, tried for war crimes, and kicked completely, not only out of Ukraine, but also out of the Kremlin.
And, as you can imagine, Poland has some recent, as well as ancient, history with Russia.
So, not only in the most recent communist times, but also during World War II, with Poland's division and the dual invasion of the Nazis from Germany, and then, of course, the Soviets from Russia at the time, splitting Poland down the middle in 1939.
So yes, there's been a little bit of history there.
They're not too friendly with the Russians when I was just in Poland last month.
U.S. supplies those proxy groups with Russian arms purchases from MOD.
I mean, certainly the United States can use third-party groups to purchase, you know, let's say the United States, and this is covered in that movie Lord of War with Nicolas Cage.
The United States is more than capable of buying or using third-party buyers to go purchase weapons from Russia, purchase them from Israel, wherever you need to go, and then sending them over to any group they want, and then and then sending them over to any group they want, and then you wouldn't have any, you know, you wouldn't have your fingerprints
In fact, obviously, if you remember the Benghazi situation, there is a strong theory that the Benghazi situation was just that, was arms being sent from the rebels in Libya to the rebels in Syria, was arms being sent from the rebels in Libya to the rebels in Syria, and Chris Stevens, the ambassador, is going all the way back to September 11th, 2012 now, over a decade ago, almost 11 years, over a decade ago, almost 11
This CIA site was hit because there were man pads anti-aircraft missiles that the CIA was trying to get out of Benghazi and then send them up to Syria because they wanted to be used and keep in mind that this was the United States Fomenting this the Syrian Civil War as part of the wider Arab Spring that was going on from 2011 and also known as Operation Timber Sycamore, that anyone can go look up Operation Timber Sycamore.
This was Obama and Hillary's plan to arm rebel groups in Syria.
And so Benghazi gets hit and people are saying, you know, Chris Stevens, et cetera, et cetera.
But nobody ever asked the question, why was Chris Stevens at, why was he at a CIA outside in the first place?
And even in the movie 13 Hours, they don't really get into this.
There's something written on the board in the background explaining it.
Operation Zero footprint, and which then led to the arming of Operation Timber Sycamore, which strangely enough, keep in mind that what happens immediately after the United States under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, what happens immediately after the US government started what happens immediately after the US government started flooding these arms and materiel into Syria and into the border region between Syria and Iraq was the creation of ISIS.
Was that a bunch of these rebel groups then broke away and either used the forces themselves or sold these forces into the groups that later became the Islamic State.
Which, you know, ISIS.
So when Trump in 2016 said, you know, Barack Obama created ISIS and Hillary Clinton is their MVP.
And then they asked him about this again.
They said, you were being facetious, Mr. Trump.
Of course, you weren't actually meaning that he directly created them.
And he said, yo, no, I'm not being facetious.
That is exactly what I mean.
They directly created ISIS.
Obviously, there's been a lot of stuff that's going on over the last few years.
And people, yeah, Assad won.
Assad won the Civil War.
There's been a lot that's going on.
So people are asking, you know, what's, what's the real story of what's happening?
Because if you're just watching Fox News and CNN, they're not going to give you anywhere near that level of detail because they're so tied into what's going on.
All right.
I got time for a couple of more questions.
Who is Assad?
He is the leader of Syria.
And Russia and the Wagner Group were very, because you have to understand that Wagner Group was one of the main Russian forces propping up Assad, fighting ISIS, going throughout Syria to really get their feet wet.
And obviously, not wet, it's desert, but really, really get a lot of experience under their belt.
And that's what this guy, Purgosian, is known from Syria.
That's why we're talking about it so much that he's really more known prior to Bakhmut, prior to Ukraine.
He's known for his actions in, in Syria.
Kenny says, what wonder what Alex Jones is going to be writing right about again on Monday.
Didn't I see something about?
Yeah chemicals in the water and transgenderism something Someone said I didn't know that about Purgosian.
Yeah, exactly.
So this Ukraine is not his first rodeo Ukraine is not his first time around any of this.
I Missed some of the news today.
What's the biggest headline coming out of Russia?
Oh, man How to summarize this There was a Rogue.
Rogue paramilitary group in Russia that at one point looked like it may have been taking aim at Moscow, but tensions were later dissipated and a deal was struck where they were there now leaving Russia.
Atrazine makes the frogs gay.
Yes, we all know.
It's from Jessica.
Colin says being a paid master of war is fascinating.
Yeah, I mean he's also, Purgosian's also on the FBI's most wanted list, so yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
Ryula says, I can't imagine Purgosian actually wanted to take out Putin.
He wouldn't be where he is without him.
Yeah.
And I think that, um, I think there's some, some merit to that.
I think there's some truth to that.
Again, he's always directly targeted Shoigu.
He's always talked about Shoigu.
He's always talked about the Ministry of Defense.
But of course, Putin was siding with the Ministry of Defense here.
And I think that's what led to the situation.
J.D. Russell says, "If this is a work between Russia and the Wagner group, then what purpose did it solve?" Well, as I said before, it's a loyalty test.
They also showed Russia's ability to be able to move troops around and give plausible deniability for the purpose of those troop movements.
Remember, we saw the Chechens were moving around today, but nobody really knows why.
There were a number of planes sent out from Moscow today.
And people were saying, oh, maybe Putin was on them.
Maybe some of the oligarchs were on them.
And yet, it doesn't look like that was actually the case.
So there were a lot of movements going around in Russia today.
And people were saying, OK, it was in response to this potential coup.
And if so, where are those troops now?
And what are we going to do with them?
What's Russia going to do with them, I should say?
What are we going to see happens with them?
Amy Deplorable says it was very Monty Python.
How much do I think the U.S.
was involved?
I don't think the U.S.
was directly involved in this.
I just, I think they, I think they wish they were, and I think that the CIA would, would love for you to think that they were, but I don't think they were.
All right, a couple more questions.
Were they trying to draw Ukrainian forces out?
Well, if they did, they, um, you know, that didn't work because they, they didn't actually, um, He didn't actually do anything in 24 hours.
He didn't do anything.
Space Jason says, if this was an actual internal conflict, were there ever any real consequences for Purgosian?
Remains to be seen.
Really remains to be seen.
He will be sent to Belarus.
Is he going to do anything in Belarus?
Is he going to, quote, we're told he's being sent to, quote, guard the border, even though, you know, the border there is already pretty well guarded.
So I don't know how much one guy is going to do, but we'll see.
I personally think that it was just a face-saving statement about guarding the border.
I think he's being sent to Belarus to cool his heels and determine what is to be done with him.
Irish Knitter says, was all this staged?
I think it was a work to shoot.
Jacob says, do you believe war lasts till the next inauguration?
I certainly hope not.
Jack-Jack just walked in.
Hey Jack-Jack.
We're doing a we're doing a little a little it's like um It's like a live chat and we're talking to all the people.
Remember remember daddy was watching the war earlier the one in Russia?
Yes.
And so now we're talking about that war.
You want to say hi to everyone?
Wait Jack Jack can you can you tell everybody they can't see you they can only hear you.
They can't see you Jack Jack.
Do you want them to hear that song you learned today?
What if I said...
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Did I get it on how you say it?
Oh, you tell me how to say it then.
I can't hear you.
I can't hear you.
Not loud enough.
I can't hear you.
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