Episode 151. Jim Fetzer Is With Us Again To Discuss Charlie Kirk
CONTACT US: Email: paranaughtica@gmail.com Twitter: @paranaughtica Facebook: The Paranaughtica PodcastContact Cricket: Website: www.theindividuale.com Twitter: @Individualethe Hey there!Today, we have none-other than Dr. James (Jim) Fetzer! This is our second interview with him and it’s a banger!We are discussing Charlie Kirk and the events surrounding the September 10th, 2025 event at U.V.U. where he is alleged to have been a$$a$$inated on live television (Tell A Vision).With that said, get your velcrow bootstraps all velcrowed up and let’s dive into this!We hope you enjoy the show! To get in touch with Dr. Fetzer: https://jameshfetzer.org/privacy-policy/ https://x.com/JimFetzer CHECK YOUR LOCAL WATER TREATMENT LEVELS: EWG Tap Water Database ***If you’d like to help out with a donation and you’re currently listening on Spotify, you can simply scroll down on my page and you’ll see a button to help us out with either a one-time donation or you can set up a monthly recurring donation. ko-fi.com/paranaughticapodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
No church funeral, no burial site or grave, no official death certificate.
Why has no official autopsy been conducted, nor any findings released?
No ballistics report?
Not a single eyewitness on the record, and an award-winning widow already taking over his show.
Why was the entire crime scene destroyed within hours, erasing vital evidence?
They tore down everything, including the Dairy Queen.
Why were there no paramedics on the scene?
Why was Charlie Kirk's body removed and illegally flown out on Air Force 2?
Why did Donald Trump pardon a Navy SEAL killer whose shadow looms over this case?
Why was the stadium mysteriously booked by Turning point four months before his death?
How was a massive high-tech stadium memorial produced in only 11 days?
Why do multiple women publicly appear as Erica Kirk, raising questions of identity?
Why are there no birth certificates for their children?
No names revealed, no faces ever shown?
Where is a video of Charlie playing with his kids at a birthday party or picnic or any other family setting?
Why do Freemasonic and satanic symbols surround this tragedy with chilling precision?
Interesting that the gun was found on property owned by Palantir.
Isn't it interesting Kash Patel fired many of the heads of the FBI in that area days before the shooting?
Do you find it interesting that Charlie sold his house eight months ago for $5 million?
If the father of your two young children was just brutally murdered for the world to see days ago, do you leave them home with the nanny while you go on podcasts grinning from ear to ear?
Is it not curious that a 17-year-old first-time Donald Trump beauty pageant contestant won, and now Trump appointed a top attorney general woman who has no experience who was also in his beauty pageant?
This is only a fraction of the clues and evidence on this psyop.
for those of you brave enough to look at the evidence while removing the preconceived emotions the conclusion is undeniable all right jim i just watched the uh your bit shoot video they put together with uh who is it charlie key Oh, yeah, well, that's basically what I was going to cover, the content.
Okay, cool.
Listen, that's great.
You can pick out stuff from that and use that because I'm going to be basically covering the same content.
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty wild.
I just want to go over that really quick for the listeners.
Oh, well, okay.
Everybody, welcome to the show.
Episode 151.
We're here with Jim Fetzer, Dr. Jim Fetzer.
We're talking about Charlie Kirk, this whole debacle of a situation going on at that.
You guys want to just say hellos?
I'm delighted to be back here with you, Coop and Cricket, and on this topic, especially because it becomes so controversial.
I love it because it's inspiring so much criticism of Israel for having shot Charlie Kirk because he wandered off the reservation.
And I, well, I don't believe that's how it played out.
I do think this is wonderful.
It's like shattered a glass ceiling.
I've seen more discussion and criticism of Israel since the Charlie Kirk shooting than my entire life up to that event.
Oh, 100%.
I mean, this is the Shyassand effect in action.
We're seeing that play out.
It's just pretty wild.
So right off the bat here, let's just go over some of these weird little things that we can nitpick out of it.
So there's no coroner report, right?
No funeral, no death certificate, no autopsy has been released.
There's been no burial site or grave, at least given to the public.
No eyewitnesses on record.
There's been no ballistics report on that alleged 30 guys.
No paramedics on scene.
Apparently there were paramedics, but they were told, get the hell out of here by, you know, the security crew of Charlie Kirk.
After the incident, his body was flown out in Air Force 2, which is extremely rare.
Trump hardened the Navy SEAL, who's intimately connected with the Seoul situation.
Crime scene was destroyed within hours.
Stadium, what was it, the stadium that they did this thing at, which was booked four months before his death?
That's for the Eric Memorial Service.
Yeah.
Right.
Yeah, yep.
No birth certificates for the children.
Which is like, I mean, I don't even know.
Like, cricket or me, like, can people just go out and see our children's birth certificates?
Like, is that even a thing?
Yeah, is that actually possible?
Or are people just grasping there?
It seems pretty private.
It seems like you have a hard time just obtaining that, like, seeking it out.
It's not the sort of thing you could justify foyering, for example.
Right.
Well, there are a lot of records that are supposed to be public, like marriage and divorce records, you know.
I mean, so people can actually find out if somebody they know is or is not who they claim to be.
Well, you know, and I suppose in newspapers, they do publish births.
I do that.
Yep, yep, yep.
Yep.
Yeah, okay.
You're right.
You're right.
So it would ultimately be public record to leave out in a public newspaper.
I think so, too.
And notice the photographs of the kids.
You never see the kids' faces.
Yeah, that's really weird.
Very weird.
Very, very, very strange.
And then at the event, there are just Freemason symbols everywhere, just everywhere.
What I found really odd when this happened and this first came out was that Kash Patel fired the heads of the FBI in that area just days before.
Like, that is a major red flag that just gets overlooked.
Yeah, yeah.
I think everyone in a position of authority here was new that day.
I mean, it makes them far easier to manipulate because they're not experienced as what they should or should not do in a case like this.
Absolutely.
And then it's weird that Charlie sold his house for $5 million just eight months before all of this.
Well, whatever.
Yeah.
The property where the gun was found.
Oh, go ahead.
You want to look at this from a point of view of science relies on what's known as a principle of likelihood with a measure of evidential support for an hypothesis is determined by the probability of the available evidence if the hypothesis were true.
And you need to contrast, you know, the alternative.
Here's a real simple case.
Suppose you've got a body, and it's got some bruises around the neck, but no other marks.
And then you try to figure out, well, what's the likelihood that they were stabbed to death?
Well, if there's zero stab marks, then the probability of having been stabbed to death with zero stab marks is zero.
How about they were shot?
No bullet holes, no wounds.
Probability that they were shot, zero.
Bruises around the neck, okay, that suggests a greater than probability of strangulation.
Now, you send it off to the coroner, they do an autopsy, turns out the body was poisoned.
The point I'm making here is you can compare hypotheses in a preliminary fashion on the basis of the probability of the available evidence if the hypothesis were true.
Now, in this case, we're talking about the hypothesis that Charlie Kirk was shot and killed versus the hypothesis Charlie Kirk was staged and it wasn't a real assassination.
And just think of all the enumerations you've been making about one point.
You've got through about 10 points of evidence, every one of which would have a virtually zero probability if it had been real and authentic.
Virtually zero.
So what we're finding out here is there's an enormous amount of evidence right off the bat that this was not a real shooting.
And there's a lot more.
I mean, I'm going to share with you some, you know, heavyweight evidence here that this whole thing was staged.
Now, most of the world believes Ibrahim's killed.
I lost a very good friend over this, a guy, longtime colleague, who told me he thought that my hypothesis that Charlie Kirk had been staged was just as phony as the claim that JFK had faked his death in Dallas.
I mean, you know, and I've done this huge amount of work on JFK.
You know, I score books on JFK organized conferences.
Yeah, you know, I'm among.
You know, I'm among the half a dozen leading experts on the assassination.
Now, why people could draw such an impression is that they look at the evidence the government fabricated, because the government fabricated a whole lot of evidence in relation to JFK.
For example, they used another body.
It appears to have been that of a military armed forces major who Dennis David, who was the NCO, was checking people in and out of the morgue for the autopsy, was ordered not to log in when that normal standard operating procedure would be to log in the body.
Well, they used the body of the major for autopsy photographs that were released.
I mean, they're fabricated fake.
They have this huge gash in the neck.
Jack didn't have a huge gash in the neck.
He had a small clean puncture hole.
The eyes are open.
The last physician to observe the body when it was wrapped in sheets of parkland and put into the bronze ceremonial casket, closed his eyes.
We can do a superimposition of J.K.'s profile on this body in these autopsy photographs, and it's not JFK's body.
Now, if you just looked at evidence like that, you might think the whole thing was fabricated, but that's because the government was faking evidence to mislead, to defeat discovery of the true causes of death of our 35th president.
Now, in Charlie Kirk's case, I mean, there is so much heavy-duty evidence.
You may or may not have heard of the principle, false in one, false in all.
This is a judicial principle that if a witness gives testimony under oath, that's material that can be shown to be false.
You're entitled to discount their entire testimony.
And you've already, Coop, you've already enumerated like 10 points of evidence that suggests this whole thing is fake.
And if it's fake in those 10 points, I guarantee it's fake and all.
But get this, get this, get this.
This work, we go back to Candace.
Candace knows there was this camera behind Charlie and she went out of her way to get access to the camera.
And the guy, she knew the guy who took it down.
And he wouldn't let her have the film until he would show it to her.
She watched it repeatedly, repeatedly.
And what did she find?
There wasn't any blood.
Candace looked at this video of Charlie from behind, and there's no blood.
She's gone public with this.
Well, how can there be no blood?
If Charlie was shot, especially the way the government claims with a 30-odd 6, there would have been blood everywhere.
But there's now no blood shown from the camera from behind.
There's no blood inside the tent.
There's no blood all what blood we have on the shirt, and this is very, very subtle and has deceived most students of the case.
What blood on the shirt was added by CGI.
And we know it from multiple lines of proof, including the wound on the neck moves around.
Now, I'm sure we'd all agree if he had an actual wound in his neck, it's not going to move around.
It's going to stay in the same place.
You'd think so.
Because they did the CGI with a layer, a layer on top of the body.
The body moved, but the wound doesn't.
So it actually is moving around on his neck.
And then you can see this blood.
It's not the right color.
It's not coming out as though it would be from an artery pumping.
And it doesn't, isn't absorbed by the shirt.
And oddly enough, it flows down a little ways, and then it seems to back up.
I mean, what we have here is conclusive proof.
This thing is fraudulent, completely fake.
Your thoughts, Cricket.
I mean, I already had my doubts.
Just simply from the beginning, the fact that someone would all of this stuff gets thrown out there that everyone just kind of forgets the whole part of someone just contaminated a crime scene to take a USB out and basically blew like every, you know, not just, you know, to hell with like forensics, like basic cop movie like principle right there.
Like, don't contaminate a crime scene.
Don't mess with evidence.
Don't screw with chain of custody.
Let's violate all three of those things the second we start out, like within seconds of the quote shooting.
Yeah.
So it's like, it's been suspicious from the jump.
He took the chair that Charlie was sitting in and used it to stand on.
Like that, right?
Like, like you said, Cricket, everything just defies logic here.
They're not going by protocol, just like the Butler shooting.
This is as fake as that.
It's just outrageous.
Yeah, yeah.
I agree with you.
I agree with you about the butler.
That was also staged.
That was also a phony event.
So funny.
One sign of which is the crowd didn't disperse immediately when the shooting, when they heard the sounds of shots, they just sat there.
Yeah.
Well, the crowd doesn't act that way.
They run away.
They spread immediately.
They duck.
They dodge.
It didn't happen in Butler.
And he appears to have even had a fake earpiece he put on in Butler.
But there's no blood on Trump either, where there ought to be blood a lot of places.
And later you look at his ear, it's perfectly normal.
No signs of any problem with his ear.
No signs at all.
I almost feel like we're just being conditioned gradually to absorb fake reality as true.
Like every one of these just is just ever so slightly, subtly more obvious than the last, but forced to be accepted.
At the same time, it's like you feel like if with it being a plan that the quote mistakes, again, are as real as the shooting.
They want to make these, quote, mistakes and drop these balls because then you can polarize people and get them fighting about it over who believes the narrative of the government.
People emotionally invested in someone they may not have even heard of before this event.
It works out very well for them, don't it?
Oh, dude, it's just crazy.
And there's more proof that it's CG.
Yeah, you go ahead, Go up.
And it gets harder and harder for us to tell what's real.
Along with the AI problem, we also have the problem of people are accepting more fake BS along with it.
They're either like extremely sloppy or they are meaning to be sloppy.
They're putting little breadcrumbs out there.
But I want to make two more points here on the crazy stuff.
I don't know, Jim, if you can give me more information on this, but the property where the gun, where what's his name, Tyler, ditched the gun after he took it apart on the roof, stuffed it in his pants, jumped off the roof, ran into the woods, and reassembled it without a screwdriver?
Was the gun or the area, is that actually owned by Palantir?
You mean the area where the gun was found?
Right.
I think I've heard something like that.
But look, that weapon is difficult to take apart.
You need a special tool to do it.
It takes time to do it.
It also takes strength.
This guy that's supposed to have done this shooting is a whim.
The idea of him having time to take apart the gun and put, he's supposed to carry part of the barrel in his trousers and then jump down like 12 or 14 feet.
Now, when you jump down, you have an accordion effect.
So if you had a steel rod in your pants, it's not going to fold.
It's going to puncture your intestine.
You probably kill yourself jumping down.
And then you may or may not have noticed as he's running across the roof, his shadow disappears.
You don't have a shadow.
Now, that's a guarantee right there.
We're seeing an impossibility because we cannot have causes without effects and it be real.
And this case is loaded with that.
Loaded with it.
And then the last point I wanted to make off the top here is the FBI, like this was just a slap in our faces.
The FBI solved the case in 33 hours.
33.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
The Masonic number 33.
Unreal.
Yeah, it's insulting.
Unreal.
It's insulting.
It really is.
And it's funny because the FBI kind of seems to sit back and let the netizens, the people on the internet and, you know, armchair investigators compile all the work.
The FBI is obviously observing all of it.
They're taking tabs and then they're like, oh, we solved it.
We did this.
It's just like, come on.
Come on, guys.
Yeah, I was going to say, if they do any credible sleuthing, it just gets taken and taken credit for.
Look what we found.
We found the guy.
It's like you found nothing.
You weren't looking.
And by the way, there's more proof of the CGI.
For example, he had the word, was it forward on his shirt?
Well, sometimes some of the letters disappear, like the F just disappears.
He had what might or might not have been a microphone on his shirt and it moves across his shirt toward his neck.
But more importantly, the ring on his finger.
He has a ring on his ring finger on his left hand, but when they do this CGI, it moves to his little finger.
I mean, how bad is that?
It's blatant.
It's just blatant.
Yeah, and I've heard that it's like a clasp ring.
It's like a little clasp thing.
And apparently there's footage of him playing with this and other events he's done where it's like a little clasp.
I don't know.
I don't take much stock in that.
But the shirt thing is outrageous because the F completely disappears.
The R's disappears.
Look.
Look, if you're shot and you're holding a microphone, you draw, but he holds the mic too long.
Yeah.
And you might or might not take the ring thing seriously, but it's serious.
It's a real change in the finger.
There's no opportunity for him to move the ring from one finger to another when he's being shot.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
Yeah.
I totally agree with that.
Just the fact that the ring just stays like it falls from the finger onto the pinky and just stays there.
There's a lot that is wrong with that.
A lot.
Then there's additional footage of him inside the tent where you can see his shirt doesn't have any blood on it at all.
Further proof that was CGI'd.
And then when they carry him off to the SUV, there's no trickle of blood.
Nobody there.
None of those who are behind jump behind the table to assist him, turn out to have blood on their hands.
You would think they'd try to staunch the bleeding.
It is so fake.
It's so fake.
It's embarrassing that anyone believes it.
And yet I know serious people who believe it.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Seems so metaphorically appropriate that partway through the incident, your freedom disappears.
Yeah, freedom.
Freedom.
Right.
That's right.
Yeah, very good.
Very good.
That's right.
Yep.
Freedom.
Yeah, at the turning point, no less.
September 11th, you know, in 2001, was the turning point.
So on the eve of that, we have this event on the 10th.
And then to the blood issue, yeah, there's not even a drop of blood on his white tennis shoes.
Yeah.
And then photos have come out of the interior of that SUV that they threw him in after turning away the paramedic saying, get out of here.
There's no blood in the back seat.
There is no blood on the floor, on the seats, nothing.
Now, you just get shot in the neck or chest.
Blood's going to be pouring.
Yeah, it's preposterous.
And, you know, experiments with 30 odd six with like the hind leg of a hog.
It just shatters it, blows it apart.
There would have been blood everywhere.
We have witnesses.
We have little kid witnesses.
You're going to love this, who claim they were standing 15 feet away, and they're with their mother or their aunt.
So you got the three of them who each claim to be 15 feet apart.
And as Catherine Horton observed when I discussed it with her, six and one, 15 feet, five and one is six.
So you got three of them, five and one, six, six, six.
There you go.
And they're reporting blood all over the place when there isn't blood anywhere.
And get this, you're going to love this.
They were interviewed on ABC shortly after the shooting by George Stephanopoulos.
And they showed a video of the crowd rushing away.
But unbeknownst to them, the video they were showing had an empty tent.
There was no Charlie there.
It was a rehearsal video they actually played on ABC.
And a commentator, this is a guy who was criticizing, you know, critiquing what was going on.
He himself didn't realize it was a rehearsal.
He said, well, there's a substantial crowd, but it was only about a third or a fourth of the crowd we actually had at the event.
I mean, he didn't even realize that.
But they had a rehearsal of the crowd for how it's supposed to react when Charlie's shot, and they played it on ABC.
Yep.
That was going to be my next point, is the whole rehearsal of it.
I mean, you watch that.
They are literally rehearsing it.
And the crowd isn't as thick, like when Charlie Kurtz first walks out there throwing hats out.
That's a thick crowd.
And then that video where they're actually rehearsing, it's a third of the crowd.
So thin.
And, you know, three, two, one, everybody run.
And they all have the pre-planned directions of where they're running to.
So assuming it was a real shooting, what's the probability of a rehearsal of crowd reaction?
Zero!
Zero!
Seriously.
Well, what was it a real shooting?
Seriously.
I wonder if they had those little marquees, like they had a Sandy hookup, like everybody meet over here for pizza and water.
Yeah, or the porta potties already played.
You know, I asked law enforcement if they'd ever heard porta potties at a crime scene, and they laughed.
That's what we had at Sandy Hook, Porta Potties already in place.
Just all of that.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Tables of water and pizza.
Yep, yep, at the firehouse.
And what a brilliant bit of social engineering they did.
Where an entire swath of people who would normally be actively debunking really obvious, you know, tells are actually incentivized and want it to be real because they've been programmed so much to hate the guy that they wanted it to happen.
So they'll actually discount.
So all the people who would normally be asking questions are discounting that evidence because they want it to be real.
Yeah.
Like there's a whole set of people on the other side that would be doubting this right now outside of the conspiracy crowd that is 100% buying this because it fulfills their narrative.
Well, I'm sure they're all getting paid.
I'm sure they're all getting paid like $7,000 and gets mad if you suggest it's a lie.
Yeah.
And that's the weird thing about it is they get mad when you suggest it's a lie.
That isn't usually the case.
They usually just laugh and find it kind of silly, but they get angry.
Well, they don't seem to understand the predicament Charlie was in.
I mean, he'd been to Israel.
He'd gone to the fans.
He knew there was something completely implausible about the October 7th event.
He didn't believe it.
He had told Candace and Tucker and Clayton that he couldn't continue to support the genocide narrative and that he did not like Vivi Netanyahu.
Now, realizing Charlie was wandering off the reservation, essentially Netanyahu gave him a choice between silver and lead.
Right.
Silver, he was going to give another $150,000 to turning point if he'd continue to carry heavy water for the Zionist agenda.
Lead, meaning he could confront his own assassination.
If not, so my interpretation, Charlie faked his own assassination in order to escape and get out of the line of fire.
I think this is what happened here.
It seems likely.
The proof it was staged is simply overwhelming.
Yeah.
And then weirdly, all the people hating on him are actually serving his purpose of wanting to disappear in that case.
Wouldn't they be so mad to find that out?
You would think they would, but no.
They just bend the knee.
I think they would be super mad, actually, if they found out that they were benefiting someone they've been programmed so much to hate.
This leaves Candace in a predicament because it seems to me she still thinks Charlie was actually killed when, you know, the evidence is all against it.
I find that a little perplexing because she's very savvy and she has access to lots of sources.
I would have thought by now she would be it may be to protect Charlie.
She doesn't want to admit he's still alive because she believes that they would try to kill him for real.
What's your take, Jim, on the meeting between Erica, Francvy, Kirk, and Charlie?
Candace.
Yeah, the one that made all of the evidence just kind of fizzle and disappear because there were supposed to be a lot of receipts brought before then that suddenly nobody asked for after that.
And a lot of people, she lost a lot of people on that one, too.
Yeah.
Well, Erica.
Erica is such a pathetic crisis actress.
I mean, she's in embarrassment.
I know.
And I find it puzzling because Candace is committed overwhelmingly to speaking the truth.
And yet in this case, maybe she was persuaded that Erica has just taken Turning Point back into Zionist territory 100%.
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
Bad, bad, bad.
It's ugly.
It's ugly like her ugly ass face.
I can't stand looking at her.
It just angers me.
Yeah, I don't like her looks either.
And by the way, she doesn't look the same as the gal that I think Charlie actually married.
It looks more like Juliet Hooke from the Dancing with the Stars.
This gal has a very different look and not really appealing, in my opinion.
I'm with you.
And when they did that memorial service in the hall, which had been rented four months in advance, I'm convinced it was all AI.
It was all AI.
Every seat was full.
They had these spectacular fountain sparklers.
The way she comes out, I think that whole thing was an AI production.
It looks pretty fake.
Could be.
Just like the camera angles.
It just looks like a programmed AI command.
I believe that's exactly what happened.
I mean, you have to keep in mind that if, you know, with tech levels being advanced beyond what we get to see, if someone actually wanted to create a proper AI-generated video that didn't have the usual tells, they could completely do it.
We're not dealing with Sora 2 here.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Yeah, I don't think these, I don't think, I don't think these guys were rocket scientists.
I think they just think that we are dumb enough to believe anything they tell us at this point.
Yeah.
Well, I think it's part of it is just the blurring.
The blurring of reality and fake reality caused by being forced to believe so many things that are clearly fake.
Over time, your psyche will bend that direction.
I mean, that's the CIA score, right?
Here's another good one about Erica.
You may have seen the footage of her supposedly mourning Charlie when he's lying in the casket.
Yeah, fake.
You never see Charlie's face.
You never see Charlie.
You see her with his hand.
And the hand appears to be that of a mannequin.
It's rubber, I think.
I think so.
And it turns out a guy did a study here and found that the size of the hand was too big to be Charlie's.
I mean, he measured distances between knuckles on the index finger.
And Charlie's distance on his real hand was 59.7 millimeters, but the length in the casket hand is 68.
So the hands don't correspond.
And here she's fawning over it.
She's touching it.
She's sobbing about it.
And it's a fake hand.
Yep.
How bad is that?
When I first saw that, I immediately was like, I guess that's another aspect of this.
That is a dummy.
That is so fake.
And then her rings.
I know.
Her insane Freemason rings.
Yeah, that's a good point, too.
I guess that's another aspect of this that really changes things is average laypeople have access to things like the ability to measure the size of a hand off of a video and compare it to the actual size from previous examples.
Stuff like that never used to be the case.
And you couple that with the fact that, honestly, at this point, people trust the guy talking into his camera a lot more than they do any news organization.
And it's like people get so much information now from independent sources that it's also harder to control the narrative.
Because you got so many individuals that are really hard to all co-opt that all come up with their own independent results.
So here are the things that are muddying the water in most cases.
Yeah, sadly, it muddies the water a bit.
Yeah, here are seven additional disproofs of the hypothesis that it was real.
No blood from behind, from in front, or elsewhere, except in footage that's apparently been created using CGI.
A rehearsal for crisis actors has even been broadcast.
The venue for the memorial service was rented in May.
The body in the casket was a mannequin, not Charlie.
Erica Kirk is faking her grief over rubber hand to hand.
Everyone on the job that day was newly in her position.
I mean, this is just stunning when you put the pieces together.
Yeah.
And everyone involved got significantly more prominent and a whole lot more embedded in the public eye.
That's for sure.
Yes.
Like before this, Candace Owens was not the number one podcaster in the world, that's for sure.
Yeah.
And then this happens and then boom.
Skyrockets.
I do like Candace, but something is very, very fishy here.
Yeah.
Very.
The fishiest part to me is the boosting because I haven't really seen it terribly much, but I hear she's actually pushed on the algo now, which raises some real red flags to me because one of the things I could always consistently do was search for people's names and find out if they were suppressed in the algo or not based on whose videos would come up.
If you searched for somebody and the first thing you found was five people owning you, yeah, you're suppressed.
But algo, you mean algorithm, right?
Algo algorithm.
But if your video's at the top, that's you're getting boosted.
Well, it's like the whole Nick Shirley thing that's happening right now.
He just gets boosted after posting a video 18 months old saying it's new for the whole Venezuela thing.
Wait, he did something on Venezuela too?
Yeah, yeah.
We mean the Somali daycare fraud, right?
That one too.
And he's wearing the polymarket shirt.
Wow, dude gets around apparently considering he was just in Minnesota knocking doors.
I know.
He seems genuine to me, but Miles Mathis is claiming he's just a fabrication.
You know, he's one more fraudulent element.
But it seems to me he's actually doing good work.
He's doing a real investing.
People just get now knocking on doors, going to daycare centers, asking a rather obvious question: where are the children?
Yeah.
And they're getting millions of bucks, millions of bucks for these daycare centers with over 100 kids, but there aren't any kids there.
Zero, Zilch, not a none, not a one.
And here's another of these daycare centers.
It's called the Learning Center, but they can't even spell the word learning.
It's the Learning Center.
I saw that.
Give me a break.
If I'd seen that like 10, 15 years ago, I'd have said that was an SNL skitch.
I know.
I know.
Yeah.
A Saturday Night Live sketch.
Yeah, I agree.
Welcome to the Learing Center.
Would you like to enroll?
That is your kid.
We'll give them some great education.
Yeah, very good.
Yeah.
Well, then, speaking of child daycare stuff and orphanages, Erica Kirk's connection with the Romanian Angels in Romania.
Yeah.
Like 17.
When she is 17, she creates a Romanian angels, and it just so happens that at the very time this was happening, Romania was experiencing a child disappearance epidemic because they were all going into her little Romanian angels thing.
This is just disgusting.
And how can she do this at the age of 17?
How can she win a beauty contest when she's never entered a pageant before?
But it's a Donald Trump-run pageant.
And Erica just comes out beaming.
I mean, this is all very bad.
It gets into this sordid stuff of Trump and Jeffrey Ernst.
And I'm sorry to say, I'm convinced Trump was right in there in the thick of it.
Oh, I agree 100%.
How could he not be?
I mean, people would be getting nailed if he were not in some way connected.
I think people are more so looking for things that aren't there and ignoring the things that already have come out is what is happening.
Because people keep searching for new stuff, like it's going to be there.
And it's like, no, it's going to be really lame things, like old pictures, which have Trump in a picture with Epstein that we already knew about like five years ago.
Like all the really good, juicy stuff has been scrubbed by this point.
Yeah.
That's all gone.
If it ain't come out at this point, we ain't got it.
We ain't getting it.
Yeah.
So Jake GTV, I don't know if you guys are familiar with that, with that guy.
Do you mean Jake TV?
Yeah, well, yeah, Jake G is like as a middle initial or something.
Yeah.
It's brilliant, brilliant stuff.
I love it.
Yeah, he's doing a damn good job.
So he points out that Erica Kirk's Romanian Angels charity operated in Constantinople, Romania, the exact time and place of a notorious child trafficking epidemic.
That place was like a hub for child trafficking at that time.
Yeah.
She then partners with U.S. Marines and thanked the commander Otto Busher, who was later accused in Romanian media of running a brothel for minors at a nearby U.S. base, which happens at like every U.S. base in other countries.
Her father, all right, her dad ran Raytheon in Israel.
Her mom worked for Homeland Security, cleared deep state ties, conveniently timed shutdown, zero investigation.
Yeah.
Like, what are we doing?
I mean, Romania is such a corrupt place that I actually, I like literally learned about the politics of spite from like this Romanian YouTuber doing a rant about it and how they had a saying in his country that perhaps your goat will die or my goat will die, but yours will too.
Like basically voting to harm everybody because screw my enemy instead of help myself.
Unreal.
Because there's just no hope of the government helping you.
Your only hope is maybe the government will make things worse for your enemies.
Right.
That is how corrupt they were.
For an example, there was a saying, a common saying of literally, screw you too.
We'll make everyone miserable.
Yeah.
It's fascinating how many different theories are coming up with how Charlie was shot when he wasn't actually shot at all.
But I mean, there are a dozen different theories out there.
Unbelievable.
But I love it because, as I say, everyone believes Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
Yep, or was at least involved in it.
Yeah.
Like the mob, you know, didn't do it directly.
Yeah.
You know.
And yet, will Rico ever be involved?
Oh, of course not.
That's not why they created it.
And then isn't Erica, isn't she?
Doesn't she come from Jewish lineage, the France fee or whatever?
I would not be surprised.
Even remotely.
She got some of deep state intel background.
I mean, that would just be one more nail in the coffin.
I mean, because she comes from two families, the Rothsteins through her cousin Nicole and the Solomons through her aunt Carla.
I mean, she's, she's, yeah, she has insider connections.
There's no doubt.
Yeah, that ring thing happens in just a fraction.
I mean, just a couple frames.
You see the ring on his ring finger, and then all of a sudden it's on his little finger and he's still holding the microphone, which he ought to have already dropped.
So, I mean, it's just improve after improve after improve.
I mean, I got forced to watch the stupid clip so many times.
I was desensitized to it and then started growing suspicious.
How about the book on the shooting that Charlie Kirk had up here the day before the event?
The day before he was shot.
They had a book out on him on Amazon.
Yeah, somebody tried to claim it was some kind of like publishing adjustment.
And I'm like, oh, because people invest in all kinds of prominent figures just happening to get shot to make a few thousand dollars off of a book nobody's really heard of.
Like, that doesn't seem very likely, like, as an explanation.
Oh, people just make the assassination of everybody books and just keep pushing the publishing date back.
And at least that was the claim for why it worked out that way.
But I don't find that very credible.
Well, but how can you have a book about an assassination that hasn't taken place yet?
I mean, it's ridiculous.
Yeah, that kind of came and went.
Like, it came out, there was a big huff about it, and then it kind of disappeared.
I mean, that eliminates the monetary incentive excuse.
Oh, people just publish random books about celebrities getting assassinated that a lot of people haven't really heard of.
Like, he became a household name after this, but I would wager that if you asked a lot of people beforehand, they wouldn't have known who the hell he was.
Yeah.
For real.
Right.
I agree.
I don't think I had any idea who was Charlie Kirk before he was purportedly shot.
I saw some videos of him debating people on college campuses sometimes in feedback.
Right.
That's about it.
I wasn't really aware of him past them.
And I just knew he worked with Turning Point and did events.
That's about it.
Yeah, that's all I knew.
But George Zinn.
What do you know about George Zinn, Jim?
Yeah, remind me, Zinn was the perennial crisis actor.
Yes, he was immediately after the shooting, he's like, I did it.
He jumps up and he's like, I did it.
It's that older guy.
Yeah, yeah.
That was to create.
I mean, we're talking literally crisis acting in the seconds afterwards.
That was to create a distraction while they did the CGI, while they added the blood to the video.
Well, I mean, it definitely pulled a lot of camera attention.
Yeah.
Has he been in other false flag events?
Because you know how they use these crisis actors over and over.
Maybe.
I seem to recall he mailed a bomb threat around the time of the Boston bombing, I believe.
Oh, that's right.
Someone talking about.
Oh, you know, that might be right.
Seems awfully on the nose.
Yeah.
Yeah, so apparently he was at 9-11, and he was at the Boston Bombing Marathon, as well as calling in a bomb threat at a different marathon.
Okay.
Okay.
That makes sense.
So what I'm hearing is, is if you want to avoid these things entirely, just check this guy's itinerary and don't go to those things.
Yeah, where George is going, you want.
Yeah, don't go to George.
Yeah, don't go to George.
Don't follow George around to events.
Like, if you see that guy in an event, it's probably your cue to leave.
So it's really interesting because...
Especially if you don't know what's going on.
Well, here, let me read this because this is really interesting.
So roughly 100 specific traceable IP addresses in Washington, D.C. and roughly 100 in Israel were like looking at Google searching for George Zinn, Tyler Robinson, the hospital where Charlie was brought to, the Timpanagos Regional Hospital, whatever.
So in the months leading up to the assassination, researchers tracing Google Analytics logs uncovered unique Israeli and Washington, D.C. IP addresses, making targeted searches for key people and places that would later be involved in the false flag of Charlie Kirk.
Names no one outside of Utah would even have known existed.
These unique IP addresses made coordinated searches for Timpanagos, I can't pronounce that, regional hospital.
The medical center Kirk was taken to by TPUSA, despite the fact it was not even the closest hospital.
These unique IP addresses also made searches for the very surgeons who would later be called in to operate on Charlie.
Also for Utah medical examiner Deirdre Amaro.
They even searched for Josh Hammer.
I mean, I don't know why that guy was even searched, but Israel was not only monitoring the Utah medical examiner, they were searching for information on all of the general and emergency surgeons at that hospital.
And the same Israeli IP didn't stop at the hospitals, surgeons and Josh Hammer.
It also searched for Tyler Robinson.
And then almost 100 people in Israel searched for information about Tyler on the same day this happened.
It's just ridiculous.
That sounds like due diligence to me.
Sounds like they're doing their due diligence and looking through people's info and making sure there's not going to be something that screws up the storyline later on.
Like, okay, let's search up these people.
Let's see what comes up in Google when we look for this stuff.
Make sure that it's not going to be something that completely shatters what we're talking about here.
Yeah.
And the thing that thing I really have to question is you'd think, I guess maybe it wouldn't necessarily be technically sound people that would be doing this job because you'd think you'd use a frigging VPN.
Yeah.
Like you're the government.
You're like, hmm, should I use a VPN while I'm here in Langley Air Force Base?
Nah, let's just search up all this suspicious shit.
No need for that.
Like, you think at some point they would assign this to a little smarter intern.
You'd think.
And then in the days leading up to the assassination, searches for George Zinn started coming in, not from random users, but from Washington, D.C. Why from Washington, D.C.?
40 separate searches all within a single day, September 1st, 10 days before the shooting.
And that's not all.
He was also searched for from Israel.
And despite there being no news stories about him, no public record, no reason anyone overseas should have even known his name, George Zinn wasn't the only person closely involved in the assassination to have been tracked and monitored before the event by Hidden Hands in Israel.
Hunter Kozak, all right?
The dude asking questions.
He was the man asking Charlie Cook the question about transgender gun violence right before he was shot and also of interest to Israel in the weeks before the assassination.
Now, what the fuck?
Well, I mean, if you're going to stage something, pretty much anybody that close and on camera is going to have to be in on it.
Like, there's a lot of people that could be unbeknownst and will play along to a certain point if you have certain key players filling roles.
But somebody who's right up there, they're going to be like, yeah, that's not what happened if it's not somebody involved.
You know what I mean?
Like, hold up here.
That's a bunch of bullshit.
So, yeah, like, anybody involved to that level would have to either be in on it or threatened.
One of the two.
Here's some BBC about Zen.
Mr. Zinn is well known among organizers of public events in Salt Lake City.
The New York Times reported.
He shows up frequently to public forums with the intention to disrupt the event or question a high-profile speaker.
He also has a long history of minor crimes, including an arrest in 2013 for saying a threatening letter to the host of the Salt Lake City Marathon, just days after the Boston Marathon bombing.
So yeah, he said a bomb threat right after the Boston Marathon, Paul.
Yeah, about the Salt Lake City Marathon.
So he threatened to bomb another marathon.
Yeah.
Well, it's just ridiculous.
Just ridiculous.
Yeah.
Who puts him up to this?
Plausible as Gene Rosen of the Sandy Hook thing.
Also, like, if you think about it, like, would threatening terrorism on a public event be considered a minor crime if you or I were being brought up on this?
Yeah.
Like, holy crap.
Yeah.
Minor crime.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He just tried to blow up a public event and killed him.
You think that would be a felony?
Yeah, you'd think that'd be a felony publishable by a year or more in jail, which is a distinction.
I mean, not just a misdemeanor.
Yeah.
I agree.
I was going to say, like, I mean, wouldn't that be like terroristic threats that I'm like, if anyone else did it, yes.
It would be a terroristic threat.
But not when it's one of their own people.
Then it's a minor crime.
Then it's a minor crime.
Slap on the wrist.
Which, you know, if you didn't look up what he did, it would imply that it's something like, you know, he, like, cut somebody off and almost caused an accident.
Or, like, you know, he caused a disturbance and cops had to come in and like detain him for five minutes.
Something like that.
Like, you don't assume like he threatened to blow something up.
That's not where your mind goes when you hear minor crime.
No, dude.
Yeah, there's a lot about terroristic threats online, of course.
Yeah, I was like, I thought they took those seriously at all.
Oh, yeah.
Like how somebody said something about, like, said something about, like, Elon must be an old, and, like, it was really vague on purpose.
And she still got, like, massive backlash for it.
Well, I just got banned from Twitter.
No.
I was just banned from Twitter for because there was this female rapper who like, you know, put diamonds in her teeth and sharpened her teeth.
And all I said was, well, I hope she bites off her tongue.
And I was instantly, instantly banned.
Literally five seconds later, I was banned for saying that.
And I've said far worse things than that.
Five seconds.
That's got to be AI.
There's no other way it could be done so fast.
No.
Here is the punishment for terroristic threats varies significantly by jurisdiction, state versus federal, depends heavily on the specific circumstances of the threat.
It can be classified as either a misdemeanor or a penalty, a felony with penalties ranging from probation and small fines to decades in prison or even life in extreme cases.
So it's however the prosecutor's feeling.
Yeah.
I'll bet those are the cases where they find out you got some materials too, though.
No, but that fertilizer is for my gardening.
What are you talking about?
3,500-pound pallet.
Yeah, no doubt.
It's a greenhouse.
It's a big one.
Everything about this stinks.
Stinks.
It does.
Chisty, yeah.
Totally, totally fraudulent, totally staged.
Yep.
Embarrassingly poorly carried out.
Defended mostly by emotive arguments from what I've found, too.
People get more into their feelings than their thoughts.
What has Tucker said about Charlie?
I mean, they were buddies.
He interviewed Charlie.
They had a good interview.
I'm not sure.
Did Tucker think Charlie was killing was real?
I guess.
I know that Tucker Carlson was named the number one anti-Semitist, anti-Semitic, anti-Semitic.
Anti-Semite.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Number one anti-Semite of 2025.
I know.
You got to be as a non-interventionist now, and you can win such prestigious awards.
For real.
So was a bullet found or was it not found?
Because there are conflicting reports.
Oh, well, you get into some medical absurdities.
The alleged coroner said it was found wedged in his cervical or neck of vertebrae.
And that if Charlie hadn't been a man of steel, others might have been harmed.
That was just a fantasy.
It was just ridiculous beyond words.
That's pretty, that's so manly though.
It is.
It's embarrassing.
incredible back stopped it and i'm just like he's superman I feel like that's a stealth brag there.
Like hidden in there.
He's just that tough.
Yeah, the turning point is USA spokesman Andrew Colvett said Charlie Kirk's surgeon called it an absolute miracle that the bullet that killed him didn't exit his body because dozens of people were standing behind him when he was shot.
It was found under the skin in the neck.
Okay.
It's impossible.
It's impossible.
Absolutely impossible.
It's hardly impossible unless that bullet wasn't actually fired, but it was simply planted under the skin.
I mean, it's just ridiculous.
Like I left the cartridge on the cartridge still on it.
With engravings in it.
Right, right, right, right.
Like that picture of them shooting at the fence where somebody put a bullet with the cartridge stuck on it.
See, look at shooting at the fence.
Oh, man.
It's just ludicrous.
Like, I used to hunt back when I was younger.
I used to hunt a lot.
And 30 out 6 was the rifle of choice.
I've shot many a deer with a 30 out 6.
It doesn't just get stuck in the skin.
Hell no.
Also, the blood involved tends to be, well, to put it bluntly, explodey.
It'll do damage.
It comes out pretty gruesomely.
I've been with people hunting with them suckers literally outside of, you know, outside the back porch.
And yeah, it's a mist.
It comes out.
Gun experts.
You can watch thousands of videos on YouTube about this, especially after this happened.
They're like, fuck that.
Watch.
I'm going to show you what a 30-odd 6 will do to various objects from the fake human things that people shoot at to do ballistics tests to water balance to whatever.
And the 30 out 6 does extraordinary damage.
I mean, this is a round that is designed to kill, to do damage, to take down bears, to take down moose.
Yeah.
It'll go through a quarter inch of steel for crying out loud.
Right.
And but it just gets stuck in his neck.
I mean, this idea that Charlie's that Charlie was all I threw gut of an elk, I'll tell you that.
That Charlie was a man of steel.
Give him that big break.
I mean, this is so silly.
He actually had a turtle shell.
Yeah.
He was how dumb are we supposed to be?
Oh, not to mention that, because I mentioned Superman and then Man of Steel, obviously.
That where did where did he go?
The alleged shooter Tyler?
He went to a dairy queen, and there's like a poster for the Superman Superman movie.
There you go.
Come on.
The breadcrumbs.
I almost feel like the I almost feel like they should have kept a ballistic vest part of the narrative because it was more believable than he had an invincible spot.
At least a ballistic vest could explain, like, okay, yeah, that might get caught after it decelerates a bit inside the body.
Like, okay.
Do you mean that it, like, it deflected off the steel plate and then up into his neck?
Yeah, yeah, okay.
That's it.
That's why I remember some people initially making saying that was the claim and why it got lodged is that he actually had a ballistic vest on.
It would make more sense that it went in on what and that it went in around the vest and then ricocheted off the vest, which that's more believable.
Like, to me, it was way more plausible and believable.
And I was more willing to accept that than this whole, like, you know, he put the armor cheat on from GTA right before he was shot or some shit.
That's all just ridiculous.
So if anyone wants to look at this objectively and scientifically, the probability of the evidence that's available on the hypothesis that the shooting was real is zero.
Whereas the probability of the evidence on the hypothesis that was staged or faked is close to one.
Because they'd have to do all these stupid things if they're going to fake it.
And they didn't do a good job of it, which is why we have so many points we can make that blow the whole thing apart, defeat it outright.
Yeah.
And yet, I know intelligent people, I take serious, who still believe Charlie Kirk died at Utah Valley University.
And it's just crazy.
So, okay.
Jim, can you just carry us through this whole scenario?
Like, how did it happen then?
How do you believe this happened?
Like, how do you think that all played out?
Yeah, let's play out this hypothesis.
Well, I have a colleague who did a brilliant job of analyzing about how it was done in terms of setting it up.
Charlie appears to have had some kind of squib.
I think it was just an air squib under his shirt, so it would pump up his shirt.
And she, her name is Vivian Lee, has really given us a reconstruction of how it was done that I think is absolutely spot on.
Here's her analysis.
This was published on 153news.net.
Alas, no longer around for lack of financial supporting.
So how'd they do this thing?
It was done with hand signs, triggered the remote activation of the squib.
They had the squib activated on signal and then broke and produced a fake wound in some blood.
There were people.
See, I think it was basically an air squib, and then they just added the blood with a CGI because we don't get the blood anywhere else.
Or people taking cell phone footage in the immediate proximity, but no one outside the op was allowed to get that close.
Then they sent their cell phone footage to the AI guys who added more blood, accidentally moved his ring to his little finger.
They didn't notice the ring problem.
Sent the doctored footage to the news networks who made sure the whole world saw it.
That way, anyone in the crowd would have seen the phase one squib event, so as to think it was real, but the fake two AI doctored footage was then broadcast far and wide.
Definitely a Hollywood massage-style op.
This is now Vivian Lee.
And let me add: the networks tend not to show blood and gore.
So normally you wouldn't get this.
But here, they were broadcasting that seeming gushing blood everywhere.
The commotion and arrest at George Zinn was part of the op.
It was done to direct our attention away from the shooting and toward the fake suspect to give the AI guy time to doctor the footage so it could be sent out to the media for wide distribution.
Once the doctored footage was ready to go, the news no longer focused on the fake suspect.
All attention shifted to the fake shooting footage, the hand signals.
First, Charlie touched his nose to indicate he was ready to begin.
Then the guy in white, Frank Turek, touched the bill of his hat and then his top lip.
Then the guy in black put out his right arm and then touched it above the elbow with his left hand.
This was a signal to the guy in the brown shirt in the front row of the audience to activate the squib.
Right after the guy in black made his arm hand sign, the guy in brown put out his left arm, touched it above the elbow with his right hand.
The remote was in the left sleeve of the guy in brown.
So when he touched his arm, he activated the squib.
Then he ducked down a little and focused his attention on Charlie.
When he saw the mission had been accomplished, he gave a smile of satisfaction and took off.
Then they grabbed Charlie, carried him off to a waiting SUV, no putting him on the ground, no towel or fabric pressing on the wound to stop the bleeding, no EMTs, no ambulance, no medical equipment, no stretcher, and no blood on the guys carrying Charlie to the van by the arms and legs.
No blood anywhere.
F-A-K-E fake.
Absolutely.
And I mean, I'd like to mention, too, that they were only putting out the same two or three clips, too.
Like, out of the thousand of people that were there, I don't know how many were there.
At least 500 people, let's just say that.
And we can see at least 500 people had cell phones, but we only had two different clips.
There's something wrong with that.
There were probably 1,500 people there, maybe closer to 1,000, but about 500 or more were these crisis actors who participated in the rehearsal that was broadcast on ABC.
I mean, if you just see that, if you just see the rehearsal video in the tent, that it's empty, and this is prior to the event, you know, the whole thing is fraudulent.
Totally fake.
Cricket, have you seen that footage?
I don't know what to say.
No, I haven't seen that one.
Oh, yeah, I got it.
It says some of it's in my part, Coop.
They sure don't like to put it in the algo, do they?
That's not getting the push Candace Owens is.
I'll tell you that much.
Anyone who wants to take a closer look at all the evidence I've been describing, I did a thing with Christopher Key on October 7th, published under the title The Charlie Cook Assassination Hoax Exposed.
And you can find it online.
And you'll see the rehearsal video where the crowd is just running away from an empty tent, from an empty tent.
It's all there.
Christopher Key, the Charlie Cook Assassination Hoax Exposed.
You can find it.
It's had about 45,000 views, by the way.
It's pretty wild.
Why would you even need to rehearse a dispersal for any legitimate reason?
Oh, you wouldn't.
Not really.
Like, okay, let's just practice running in terror, guys.
I know.
I know, I know.
I mean, it's absurd.
If it had been real.
Yeah.
If anyone has any doubts about air squibs being effective enough, I'd say Butler, Pennsylvania dispelled those.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The view of this clip, it's up on the balcony with a perfect overlook of the tent and like where all the seating is.
Perfect view of the whole scene.
And tents empty.
Not a single Charlie Kirk crew member standing around.
Nobody's 400 mana people.
Yeah, it's in.
Let me see if I can find the title.
It's bizarre.
It's included in this bizarre interview that was run on ABC where you had the woman and the two younger kids.
Yeah, it was an aunt and her two nieces.
That's what it was.
Yeah.
Charlie Kirk, bizarre eyewitness interview.
I can send you the link here.
I'll send you the link right now.
And what's fascinating is even the guy who was doing the critique of these witnesses, I mean, it's just ridiculous.
Doesn't seem to realize that it was a staged shooting.
Is there a chat here where I can send you the link?
It should be on the right-hand side, somewhere over there.
It is for me.
Yeah.
Oh, maybe I can.
I can send it to you by here.
I'll send you a ch.
I just sent you a thing in the chat.
I can send it to you.
Oh, in the chat.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's see.
Hopefully, maybe it'll make a notification will pop up, maybe.
I was thinking of something that one of the things that is one of the great examples of slowly pushing fake stuff into reality is I saw the other day them going out and casting doubt on that quote where somebody literally gave that whole theory of, okay, so he disassembled the gun, jumped down, ran back, reassembled it.
You know that one you had me watch?
Yeah, yeah.
They're not claiming that's not real.
Okay.
Yeah, they're like, no, that didn't happen.
We didn't say that.
Unreal.
Like, no, that was just an excuse that they made.
And I'm like, but I watched the clip of an official laying out the story.
That was not some rando.
But yeah, they were trying to claim it was just a theory born of random people claiming it online.
And I'm like, no, I saw the clip where the official was saying it.
Unless you're saying that straight up CGI, it's real.
And of course, they won't go that far because then somebody might sue and it'll go to discovery.
And then you actually find out if it's real.
And they don't want that.
Yeah, it's the last thing they want is to take it to discovery.
Yeah, that's why nothing ever goes there.
Well, listen, Coop and Cricket, it's been a real pleasure joining you tonight to talk about Charlie.
And, you know, we can, I'll be glad to come back, talk about other events if you'd like, including, of course, Sandy Hook, Boston bombing, Las Vegas.
I've done it all, brought together the best expert to sort out what happened.
It's embarrassing how many of these are taking place.
And for those who want to get an introduction to the kind of research that I and my collaborators do, check out how to spot a false flag, part one, and how to spot a false flag, part two.
And you'll get an introduction because I give you clips, like, you know, proofs again and again.
Sandy Hook, Boston bombing, Parkland, Las Vegas, Parkland, Las Vegas, Sandy Hook going back and forth.
You'll understand how they do these things and how profoundly we're being played by the mainstream media and our very own government, sad to say.
Yeah.
Well, I like to think this was a nice, uncontroversial topic compared to that.
Slightly less people will be angry at me.
Come in, Sandy Hook.
Just look at you guys.
Just look at the evidence for crying out loud.
Yep, Steve, you're encouraged not to.
You're encouraged not to.
That's all you got to do.
You're encouraged to go to the cult of personality and argue about who has the bigger audience and who has the true motive.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, Jim, thank you for coming on.
Yeah, it's fun.
Coop, Cricket.
I like it.
I like what you're doing here, and it's my pleasure.
So, you know, let me know if you want me back.
Always open door with you, sir.
Open door.
Good to have you on.
Much appreciated.
And I just want to say for the record, too, this is, you are the first interview that we've had this year so far.
And hopefully this year, because we slowed down on interviews last half of the year, but we're going to try to do more interviews.
Well, thank you guys.
I'll be glad to return on a future day.
Happy New Year.
Have a great 2026.
You have a new year to you, too, sir.
Let's hope it's a good one for the American people, not just the rich and powerful.
We can only hope.
We can only hope.
Thank you, guys.
Take care, buddy.
Bye now.
All right, Cricket.
I did want to get to a few things before he had to take off, but we only had so much time.
Have you seen the movie Snake Eyes?
I don't think so, no.
With Nicholas Cage, it came out in like 97 or something, 98.
No, I don't think I've ever seen it.
All right.
Well, yeah, it was a 98 film, Snake Eyes, with Nicholas Kim Coppella.
Coppola.
Coppella.
Coppola.
Real name.
He's a Coppola.
All right.
Nicholas Cage.
Coppola.
So when it came out, I liked the movie.
It was a good movie.
I need to go watch it again and just see how all this correlates with the Charlie Kirk shooting because it's insane.
So let's just look at these parallels here.
Charlie Kirkland in Snake Eyes closely matches Charlie Kirk's name, obviously.
The film's victim, Charles Kirkland.
He's the generic version, like the Kroger of Charlie Kirk.
It is too.
Charlie Kirkland.
In the film, Charles Kirkland is the victim.
He's a high-ranking official assassinated publicly.
He's a right-wing activist and Trump ally known for discussing defense and foreign policy.
So in the movie, Kirkland's role is a military conspiracy.
It parallels Kirk's public persona.
So as U.S. Secretary of Defense in Snake Eyes, Kirkland is tied to a plot involving weapons deals, echoing Kirk's focus on similar issues in his activism.
The Snake Eyes scoreboard shows September 19th, visually resembling September 10th, which is the shooting of Charlie, and the fight starting around 10 o'clock and sometimes 1 plus 9 equals 10 to 911.
The film's arena in the film here, the clock displays September 19th, but 19 looks like a 10, and the 10 p.m. boxing match matches Kirk's shooting day, September 10th.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Kirkland's assassination in a crowded boxing arena mirrors Kirk shooting at a UVU campus event with thousands, both of public spectacles with the film's packed arena and Kirk's large campus event causing chaos during the shootings.
So it gets crazy here.
So Lincoln Tyler, aka Tyler the Executioner in Snake Eyes, who is in the conspiracy, parallels Tyler Robinson, Kirk's alleged shooter.
Oh my God, is this dad?
That'd be awesome if his dad's name was Douglas Tyler.
Oh my god, yeah.
Nicholas Cage in the film says, hey, Twigsy, to an usher at 6.30 in the Snake Eyes VHS version, aligning with the name Lance Twiggs, connected to Kirk's alleged shooter.
Against Lance Twiggs is like the furry boyfriend of Tyler Robinson, right?
The Snake Eyes plot involving U.S. weapons transfers to Israel echoes claims of Israel involvement in Kirk's shooting.
The film's Hurricane Jezebel aligns with a feminist publication's satirical piece about cursing Kirk days before his death.
An emergency vehicle marked 47 in Snake Eyes matches to 47 on the baseball caps referencing Trump as the 47th president on a table near Kirk during the event.
And how would they know that 47 would be a commonly used number at that point?
Yeah, it's just strange.
All of it is so strange.
The character who yells and stands to make a distraction, George Zen, listed as Zeitz or Zeitz in Snake Eyes, is accused of creating a distraction and yelling loudly at Kirk's shooting.
Not only are the names similar, but the character and real life Zinn look very similar.
Filming Snake Eyes at Trump Taj Mahal with a Trump-like character, Gilbert Powell, ties Kirk's Trump allegiance.
The Trump casino setting and Powell's caricature as a flashy deal maker connect to Kirk's support for Trump.
Kirk's shooting in Orem, Utah, meaning snake or serpent, ties to the Snake Eyes title.
Oram's possible snake etymology links to the film's title, evoking betrayal in both contexts.
And then the VHS previews tie in.
The 1999 U.S. VHS of Snake Eyes includes trailers for Payback, The Truman Show, Dead Man on Campus, A Night at the Roxbury, and Face Off in version 1, which is Paramount Home Video.
The Dead Man on Campus preview is seen as a clue to Kirk's campus shooting.
Other versions had promos like the Paramount I Need a Hero.
Now, it just seems like these people who orchestrated this thing watch Snake Eyes.
You're like, let's just do this in real life.
Or fed it into ChatGPT and said, generate us a sinister plot.
Right.
Like, it almost feels like something, something where you fed the plot of this movie into ChatGPT and said, recreate a similar event in real life.
Yes.
How can we make this real?
Yeah, and the thing was just like, oh, there's a guy in real life who's got a similar name.
There you go.
And he was here and it was public and this person distracted them and his name was this.
Yeah.
Yeah, it seems awfully convenient.
It really does almost sound like an AI just rewrote it.
It seems like it.
And I just want to give a shout out to Mission Whereas 831, who put those parallels together.
I think that came from Reddit.
I'm not sure.
But yeah, that's just really weird, dude.
Those parallels are kind of disturbing, to say the least.
Millions of people in obsessive-compulsive disorder.
No anachronism will ever be undiscovered these days.
I'll tell you what.
It's so hard to bury things.
Incredibly hard.
I mean, especially when you dig in the hole deeper and deeper, like you got to keep shoveling that dirt on.
Well, that's the trick is as you're digging the hole, you're getting more dirt out in the open.
Right.
That's exactly it.
So, what do you think about some people say that the blood in the hole in Charlie's neck was the exploding microphone lapel kind of harkens back to Israel's pagers, exploding pages?
Could be.
You give any credence to that?
I haven't.
I didn't see anything in the video that made it that indicated that's what happened, but I don't know how much I can take stock in the video at this point.
No, exactly.
I mean, because it would be pretty easy.
So it's like, so it's like at this point, it'd be just as likely as anything.
Yeah.
If it even happened, you know, and also, you know, that would create, you know, a nice scar without necessarily permanent harm.
Although I do think if an explosion happened next to the neck, there would be like, I don't know, the technology they have these days, they could do anything.
But it just seems like there was an explosion.
We would have seen some sort of spark or like smoke.
You'd think there'd be a flash or a flashback of some kind.
That's the thing.
Like, if something explodes without those things, how much force is it going to have without any heat or light energy?
Like, how big of an explosion are we talking?
Like, not really enough to put that kind of to put affect that like level of look of damage appearance, even.
Right.
Yes, that's a possibility.
Who knows?
I mean, I don't think it was, but it could be.
Yeah, see, the problem is that everybody, most people dealing with this are encouraged to emote so much about it that it's really hard to chase down stuff like this without people just getting mad at you for asking.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, dude.
It's very well engineered.
It's almost up there with Sandy Hook in terms of asking questions about it, but not quite because he's still an adult, so that automatic defensiveness is not there.
You don't have the nature taking over and saying, no, protect the young ones in that case.
Like you do here, or like you did there.
And I was hoping we could talk about the security team with Jim, but we didn't get there.
But so Kirk had parted ways with this old security team back in 2022, which was the Schaefer Security Group.
They provided security details for Kirk from 2015 to 2022.
It's an Israeli company.
But Charlie Kirk's head of security, Brian Harpole was assigned to Charlie Kirk's detail through the Schaefer group in 2018 through 2022 until Harpole and Cole and colleague Dan Flood left to start integrity solution or integrity security solutions.
I have a hard time not saying integrity.
Is that Stan Marsh's integrity farms?
Like Tegrity Farms.
Welcome to Tegrity Farms.
So those two left Schaefer Group to start the Integrity Security Solutions, and then they took over the Turning Point USA contract.
After Charlie Kirk was killed, the Schaefer Security Group said, quote, the private security from hiding in the shadows, not taking responsibility for their actions, is Rockhouse Security Group, DBA, Integrity Security Solutions.
End quote.
Then the Schaefer group deactivated and deleted their X account, their Twitter account, after tweeting that.
That's not shady.
No, that's Tegrity.
That's integrity.
Exactly.
That's integrity.
We have so much integrity, we couldn't even show you that tegrity.
So much technique.
You'd be so impressed if you saw it.
That's why we had to hide it.
We don't want a big ego.
No, I mean, they that's literally all the tegrity.
We know what's best for all of us, and that ain't it.
That ain't it.
So, Jim Fetzer, he had a quote on his website that I took this from.
I thought this was interesting.
So, over the last five years alone, the Jewish state accounts for 80% of the estimated 1,000 total cases of assassinations worldwide.
What do you think of that?
That is a really crazy high number.
80%.
In particular, that means that generally they would have taken some kind of responsibility because otherwise, generally, like you know, it's hard to actually figure out who ordered something most of the time.
So, a lot of times they rely on groups just saying, Yeah, we did it.
Oh, yeah, some terrorists.
You have to ask yourself, like, yeah, so you have to ask yourself how many of those are the result of investigations, and how many are just the result of them saying, Yeah, that was us.
Makes you wonder.
Makes you wonder the SD card.
So, the employee who like SD card was the part that set off the exclamation points because the level of anger associated with bringing it up just showed that it's really indefensible.
Oh, yeah, dude.
And I don't know the name of the guy, I forget, but he's like super close to the Kirk family, whatever.
But the employee was caught on video removing the camera and the SD card that was all propped up behind Charlie Kirk.
Like, immediately, they rushed Charlie Kirk off into the SUV.
And oh, not to mention like his head of security guy.
I think you've probably seen this video.
He takes a selfie, like a video selfie, as they're throwing Charlie Kirk into the SUV, and he's like up on this little hillside underneath that little walkway.
That's like a, you know, uh, I don't know what you'd call that.
Like, it's a walkway above.
You have to walk under it and shit.
So, he's up.
Oh, my God.
Did he caption it?
Like, feeling frisky today, might have witnessed an assassination.
He's very nonchalant, and he's like, Oh, this is happening.
They're throwing him in the car now.
And he's supposed to be the head of security or whatever he was.
And he's supposed to be like up in there next to Charlie Kirk, but instead, he's up on a hill just like filming himself.
I fairly as head of security, your target being like shot is like pretty much the most critical of critical failures you could have.
And you should be having an extremely bad day on the baseline.
Well, yeah, you would think so.
Definitely not being like, like, you know, my go-to lunch later.
Here's what I'm up to right now: loading him into the ambulance.
Like, like, like, you have a second for a picture, dude.
Well, it's very Arsene Oslo ski-like, just kind of getting shot at, but I'm going to take a selfie.
Yeah, that's the really sad thing: is that you can't entirely discount it as being just someone really self-obsessed because of our like new culture of, oh my God, rockets flying at me.
Gotta take a selfie.
Hope it doesn't hit me standing up while they take this picture.
Oh, my God, that'd be so embarrassing.
It's outrageous if I took a rocket during the selfie.
So, yeah, hopefully, I can get a selfie as that rocket is like right next to my head.
Like, oh, oh, be like, maybe I can catch it mid-frame with my teeth.
It's like going past me.
I'll just reach out and grab it.
Yeah, right.
And ask it if it wants to pose with me.
I'll sign it too.
So he takes the SD card.
He takes the chair, and we already kind of discussed this, but he takes the chair that Charlie Kirk was just shot in.
He puts it down there.
He steps on it, pulls the SD card out of the camera.
He doesn't face any legal consequences.
Nobody's even asking questions.
The crime scene was totally destroyed.
There was no respect given to protocol here.
Yeah.
See, that's why I like to hammer away at this particular one.
Because a lot of them require nuance, which if they get you mad, you won't be willing to have.
But this one's just like, you know, do you watch Law and Order?
Or rather, have you heard it on in the background at some point?
Because if so, you probably have enough knowledge of crime scenes to know this is a no-no.
Right.
You tape it off.
You get everybody that's not necessary to be there.
You get everyone out of there.
You tape, you tape the scene off, number one.
And then immediately, and this just harkens right back to the Butler thing where the FBI comes in and just destroys the fucking crime scene.
Because in Butler, they spray off the roof where Crooks was shot and just destroy the whole crime scene.
They didn't even do like an assessment of the area.
But here they do the same thing.
They destroy the crime scene.
They repave it within days.
Like, what the fuck, man?
But the guy who took the TP USA guy who took the SD card, he claimed that he secured the footage for the authorities despite his actions constituting potential felony tampering.
I was about to say, like, you don't do that.
No, you don't.
But the cops have not taken action against him.
Why?
Because it's all orchestrated.
Yeah.
Someone above is telling them, don't do anything with these people because we have a bigger thing at stake here.
Yeah, see.
And that's why I feel all the, like, you know, is this in Are You in Candace Owens' camp?
And all the, like, stuff about Egyptian planes and everything was really just a scattershot attempt to like draw your eyes away from these very obvious things.
They're basically the after the after action Jordison, so to speak.
Yes, yeah.
Like they're fulfilling the same role he is and saying, look over here, except now, you know, they don't have the immediacy of the incident to cover up, so it's a lot easier.
That's exactly it.
That is exactly it.
So, yeah, you don't really need to dig into the really complex stuff.
You can stick with, yeah, basic, like, law and order-esque rules were not followed.
This should have, investigation should have been investigated from the start.
The fact that that was not done is itself a dog that didn't bark.
Yeah.
So you've been digging into Candace Owens and that whole shit show.
Yeah, I was looking to see if she was actually going to start providing receipts.
Like, her fans were doing more to authenticate things than she was in terms of stuff like the Egyptian claims and the telemetry and all those things.
Like, she was really letting a lot of that be done by others, it seemed like.
And then she was just kind of like, kind of just, you know, yoinking that after the fact and being like, oh, look, we found this.
And I'm just like, yeah.
And now you're associating it with you, which is being designed to polarize people and get you on the are you for or against what happened?
As opposed to, do you think it's real or not?
Tries to get people on that track.
So did you look into like the Egyptian plane stuff, all that stuff she was talking about?
I didn't see it.
I couldn't find like the, or I didn't look hard enough to find all the proofy stuff, like just posts claiming they found proof and pictures of said proof.
And I'm always, I'm always reluctant to just go ahead and say those are real because it's like, you know, it's a picture of a picture of a picture.
And I'm just like, where's the source material for this?
It's, you know, like.
Yeah.
When you're searching, when you're searching for it, it's like everybody's reposting it and whatnot.
And you're always asking yourself, you know, like, where is the original?
I want the original.
I don't want these people's pictures of a picture.
You could have done shit to this.
So, like, the one part that really gets to me about this whole plane stuff, there are, like, two different planes that were being, you know, taken into question here.
The one thing.
Like, it feels like something is there.
I just don't, I'm just not sure if it's being framed as properly as or it's just being thrown out there to discredit.
Yeah, well, some of the stuff is like easily verifiable, like track flight path records and stuff like that.
Like, you can watch planes fly live using your web browser.
So, a lot of the stuff was like verified.
So, the Bombardier was over Provo, Utah three hours before Kirk was shot.
And this plane apparently was outfitted to allow it to be like kind of a landing ground for a deployer of drones.
Okay, like this plane was pump out drones and the drones would go do their thing and come back to the plane.
The Bombardier was over Provo, Utah, three hours before Kirk was shot.
Flight data shows it descended from 42,000 feet, which is like its average, you know, what do you call it?
Like just where they fly between 30 and 40,000 feet where these planes are typically at.
So it descends from 42,000 feet to just 204 feet above Lake Utah, which is just adjacent to Provo and the university.
So why would it go to 204 feet just above the ground?
That sounds like a perfect because like a regular drone is not going to be going that high, right?
It's not going to be going 42,000 feet in the air.
That's pretty much it.
204 feet a drone could go easily.
So there are new.
204 feet.
That's more, yeah, that's, I mean, like non-commercial drones can get that kind of hype.
Yeah.
Yes.
Yeah.
And multiple drones were seen at the event.
Nobody really knows who was flying those.
So then Colin identified another plane that did multiple passes above the Provo area.
It was identified as belonging to Mark Incorporated, an aircraft hire company.
Colin then goes on to analyze various events of the university on the date of the assassination, including gunshot acoustics matched with various videos and footage from several cameras showing blurred objects in the air that appear to be drones.
Where these drones came from and where they went, nobody knows.
But of particular interest is a video shown by Goodman, a Jason Goodman, of Kirk walking past two black SUVs parked in the tunnel behind the 10.
That's the tunnel I was talking about, the little walkway.
Not really a tunnel, it's more of a walkway.
Goodman suggests a shot could have been taken from the back of the SUV and the major wounded.
I don't know.
That can't happen.
There's the big thing right there behind Charlie Kirk, that, you know, the little drape.
Yeah, I was just thinking, like, you'd have to be able to see through the pad.
Yeah.
Or the tent itself to take that shot.
So I don't think that couldn't have happened.
Like, you could have the Ty-Tech capability of it, but I feel like that goes into sci-fi territory and shit.
Yeah.
Where you really don't need that level of speculation to prove a lot of this.
No.
And yeah, that doesn't seem too likely.
No.
But that's what we're left with when we get nothing but bullshit from the authorities.
It is good that at least the, you know, the confirmations and stuff for real.
I'm always so reluctant to believe everything I see on there.
Absolutely.
Because so much of it's just flat out bullshit when I find out later.
A lot of people were claiming without posting the picture even.
Oh, that was proven.
And I'm just like, I don't like that.
I don't like people just saying it was proven because I'm way too used to people saying shit was debunked that it never was.
Or rather, it was debunked because somebody said something mean about the person who had the idea.
Yeah.
That's usually the debunk.
Yeah.
I'm just going through this to find more about the planes in question here.
There's only much more on this article.
Yeah, see, like, finding any info is impressive.
Like, it seems like it's being gatekept pretty well.
Yes, absolutely.
There's no more on the planes in this article.
But, God, who is this guy?
Conspiracy something.
He has a podcast.
He does really good work.
I think it says conspiracy files.
Yeah, conspiracy files on Spotify.
He does really good work, but he covers this in depth and it's pretty good.
There are some parts that are wrong, but if anyone wants to know more about the plane theory, I mean, you could follow Candace Owens, but I think she's kind of done a 180 after having that talk with Erica Kirk.
See, that was supposed to be when we were going to get things more than this whole like citizen journalists have found like innuendo.
We were supposed to get, you know, like some actual sources coming forward and saying, I represent this.
I stand by this, as opposed to like all this anonymity, you know, like suggestions.
And ever since then, honestly, even her fans have given up on that ever happening.
Seems like.
And the weird thing is, to me at least, that would really turn me off if I was a huge fan before.
Like, you promise all this stuff and you don't deliver the goods.
To me, that's you cheating me.
Like, you didn't give me what you promised.
Yeah.
Like, I don't like you no more.
I'm going to not trust anything you say as much in the future.
But you don't become the number one podcast in the world by being very heavily distrusted.
So it's not happening that way.
Yeah, I've always been on the fence with Candace.
Like, I'll dip my toes in the water, but that's about it.
I mean, she says a lot of easily verifiable things.
And then a lot of it is absolutely just speculation.
Theory.
I mean, she's had like multiple transformations in her career, which says to me, just very opportunistic person.
Because she started out as a lefty, like running that whole doxing site, which, you know, the fact that you ran a doxing site in the first place to me is already pretty scummy.
But then you flip from there to becoming a conservative podcaster, and then you flip more central center here to become more of a, to become like the premier conspiracy podcaster.
But the main thing you seem to be doing is reinforcing the official narrative by not delivering the goods.
Because the one thing that you can really do to really ruin all of this, you know, all that evidence that Fetzer just laid out there is get a whole lot of people disillusioned with the thought that actual proof might be coming.
Yeah, dude.
And the big red flag with Candace is the fact that she's like begging her followers for quote-unquote security donations.
She's making what, 10 million a year from YouTube alone, and she's married to this guy that's worth over 250 million and she's asking her followers for money.
You could not cool.
I know.
I'm like, you could have half the Ukrainian army parked outside of your house tomorrow.
And they could probably use the scratch and better work conditions.
Yeah.
But and, you know, it would be a tiny dent in your expenses, but it's like, no, I need money from other people to pay for that.
It's like, but no, you should have been accommodating for this increased need for security by using your increased revenue.
That should be up to you.
Like, you know, like the one thing I did notice in, you know, between Tim Poole and like Candace Owens' whole dispute, where like, you know.
She actually tried to claim that he wasn't really shot at even.
And then also like said some innuendo about how he might have actually been shot at by his brother and shit.
The one thing I did notice is he never asked for money for his security.
He just said our security budget got higher because threats went up.
But he didn't ask for more money.
Money, please.
He just said we had to spend more money out of the budget of things that we make as a business here, which to me is a lot more ethical, honestly.
By far.
Which, you know, the dude has been just completely angry and emotive on this this whole time, which honestly, like, did more to reinforce like Candace Owens side than anything else.
His coming out so angry really made it seem like she had something.
And it's probably good that he chilled out after it turned out she didn't.
Because I'm like, dude, you're turning off people with how mad you're getting about this.
Yeah, I mean, what do you think about Candace Owens?
Like, he went on some pretty hardcore rants, dude.
Yeah.
To the point where I'm like, okay, even if she is a total B, this is kind of uncalled for.
Yeah.
So Candace Owens, she's got a profile on Explore Talent.
I mean, it's not there anymore because obviously it's been scrub.
But I mean, you can take as much stock as you want in that.
As, you know, she has a thing for acting.
She was 32 at the time and she has her whole acting modeling profile on this site.
I mean, she's an actor.
But aren't they all?
Well, I mean, ultimately they are either inadvertently or not.
Some of them are just more honest about what they're doing.
I want to get to, let me see here.
But yeah, to some extent, they all kind of have to be actors because, yeah, you're playing a role that makes you that money.
You know, like, are you really this person who has changed your views this drastically multiple times over years?
Oh.
Like, man.
That's what it was.
She, like, before she got her start doing the podcast and all that stuff, didn't she work at BuzzFeed or something like that?
She worked for, I think she, I thought she worked at BuzzFeed.
And then after that, for a really long, for a good while, she worked for Daily Wire.
Daily Wire, that's the one.
Okay, I was like, she might have worked at BuzzFeed before then, but Daily Wire is the one everybody always brings up.
Because they had a very, well, I mean, they had a very messy breakup when she left.
It did not seem very cordial.
To the point where I do believe Jeremy Boring actually publicly denounced her after she left.
Jesus.
Which is pretty uncharacteristic for corporations to do as a whole, talk shit about a random person.
Which in this case, obviously, not a random person.
It's a major co-worker that's leaving.
But yeah, like for them to just come out and attack somebody, generally the rule in business is to say nothing.
Yeah.
And hope it goes away.
But I mean, it's almost as bad as Benny Johnson.
Like, he worked at BuzzFeed, right?
Did he work with her at the other place?
No, I think you're right, Benny.
I do believe Benny Johnson was the one who had the BuzzFeed job.
But he was criticized.
Because you can see in his content.
Yes.
Yes.
But he was highly criticized because he was caught plagiarizing numerous articles.
Yet look at where he is now.
He's like up there in the top 10 of influencers or these independent journalists, the new MSM.
It's just ridiculous.
These people all have dirt on their hands.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, you don't get to that level without being some kind of level of at least dirty or being useful idioted on the optimistic end.
Like, that's pretty much it.
Like, when you see people that are really honest, even then, a lot of times you'll see the narrative being manipulated around them.
Like, they were talking about Nick Shirley before, and I feel like his narrative is being manipulated by a lot of different people for ends that he may not intend.
Yes, that's what I was going to say.
he might be in a position where he doesn't understand who's pulling strings but he thinks he's being led to believe he's doing the right thing and doing a good job and i mean and then you have like all these all these people patting him on the back You're doing a great job.
Yeah, exactly.
Keep it up.
They have people patting you on the back and leading you down a path you shouldn't be going down, but you don't realize it at the time.
Yeah.
See, like, see, and a lot of people were trying to discount him as like some nobody who hadn't done anything up until then.
And I'm like, nah, the dude actually went on the ground during the Hurricane Halleen thing and was a major proponent of getting actual relief to those people.
Like he did real world work for that.
Like that wasn't fake.
Yeah.
So I was like, you know, he did what all of the every news agency could have done.
In fact, they literally have millions of dollars to do this.
Go down to the site, ask people how the relief is going.
Yeah.
You know, journalism.
Like, that's the thing is, like, everybody acted like, you know, he's like, like, what he was doing was so groundbreaking.
And I'm like, I remember a few decades ago when this actually used to be a pretty commonplace thing on these networks, where if a corporation was getting a little too out of line, they would go ask uncomfortable questions and they would have hardball interviews where they'd have executives in there sweating being like, ah, crap, I'm going to get my ass sued after this.
Like, where did all that go, guys?
Like, you know, there's a reason why, you know, the powers that be feel the need to boost up, Nick Shirley.
It's because your credibility is gone.
Like, it's not just missing anymore.
Like, they recognize at this point that nobody, that, like, there isn't even the perception that they're believed.
Like, for the longest time, there was this notion that at least, you know, in some like dusty corridor, there were still people who thought there was a respectable institution of journalism left.
And yeah, those people are watching YouTubers too.
Yep.
They are.
That's how bad it is.
So, you know, you want to be shocked by his rise.
I am not in the least bit shocked by that.
Like, I'm more worried about him being co-opted from the shadows.
But why he get big?
Because he reported the damn news.
He did your job.
He did that.
Yeah, that job that you get paid millions of dollars to not do because you're like farmers paid not to grow things.
That's exactly it.
Let's finish up on this one last part here.
This is going to be from JGTV again, JG official from Twitter.
He publishes December 22nd of last year, 2025.
It's about Erica Kirk, so I think it's a good way to round this up.
So he says, Erica Kirk was positioned within a powerful network from a young age.
In interviews, she stated that her move from Ohio to Arizona was due to her mother's work with the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and Defense.
Simultaneously, her divorced father, Kent Fransvy, who also lived in Arizona, was heading the Israel branch of Raytheon, a major military industrial complex corporation.
Erika's own public profile includes winning the Miss Arizona pageant and competing in the Miss USA pageant, which was owned by Donald Trump at the time.
These biographical points establish what some observers see as clear connections to both the deep state defense apparatus and pro-Israel interests.
Any comments thus far?
I mean, geez, when you're that far up the deep space, but you don't even need former CIA status.
For real?
You're basically in this, you basically are the CIA.
You're in the bubble.
You're their employer.
Her overseas work began with an NGO she founded at 17 in 2006, Everyday Heroes Like You.
That's the NGO, Everyday Heroes Like You.
This evolved into the Romanian Angels Project, which, according to a 2014 interview with Arizona Foothills magazine, had gone global and was partnered with the United States Marine Corps to sponsor an orphanage in Constanta, Romania.
This timeline suggests the program was active around 2011 or 12, and what is considered suspicious by critics is the apparent lack of an official closure date for the program on the internet, leading to speculation that it was terminated abruptly to avoid exposure as part of a wider criminal operation.
Comments thus far?
I'm always big on reading into metaphors from names.
And yeah, when you call human beings angels, you're implying that they're dead.
Ooh.
Because you can't be a living human and be an angel.
You have the potential to sin still.
Well, good point.
Only the dead can be an angel.
Yes, indeed.
So the location and timing of this charity are central to the controversy.
The Romanian city of Constanta and the surrounding region, including the town of Tanderay, were internationally identified as a hub for child trafficking during the exact period.
A September 26, 2010 Al Jazeera article reported that dozens of people from Tanderay were going on trial for sending children to the UK to commit crimes, describing it as the center of an international investigation.
Less than a year later, on October 15th, 2011, the New York Times published a detailed expose on the child sex trafficking crisis ravaging Constanta.
This was not a new problem.
An Israeli newspaper, Horetz, had reportedly reported as far back as December 12, 2001, that Romania was probing a link between Israeli adoption agencies and organ trafficking.
Comments.
I really just want one hero to root for that isn't also connected to the evil ones.
Wouldn't that be great?
Like every time you see somebody held up like very prominently as like a hero for these things, they always end up having some kind of damn skeletons, I swear.
Yeah.
Like it's never truly honest.
And if you think about it, anybody in this industry long term that isn't like, you know, somewhere in Guadalajara right now, rotting on a tree probably isn't that genuine.
It's like, your long lifespan and lack of fear is the most suspicious thing.
Right.
Yeah.
Like this sort of thing is the sort of thing that will lower it if you take real serious efforts to stop it.
So it's like the fact that you're not even scared is more suspicious to me.
Like, yeah, you could escape every threat your whole life and just be that lucky, but you should still be a little, you know, nervous.
It's pretty telling when you feel like you're untouchable there.
Yeah, like, why are you untouchable?
Because all the people that would want to get at you should want to get at you in this scenario if what you're doing is legit.
It can be argued that Erica's program was shut down at the height of this public exposure and that no subsequent state investigation occurred because the operation was allegedly protected by powerful elements within the U.S., Israeli, and British governments.
I mean, this is obvious.
It's Romania.
It's Romania.
That's the only reason it was done in Romania.
I mean, for God's sake, isn't it?
Was it was it like isn't that where Andrew Tate operated even?
Because it's, yeah, literally, that's what he bragged about.
This place is so freaking corrupt, I can get away with what I want.
Yep.
Yeah, he's all about that.
Like, it's legal here.
It's not entrapment here.
I'm not entrapping them or ensnaring them here.
I got, you know, I have weasel words I can get out of this.
And so, um, what the hell was your name?
I forgot.
Erica Kirk.
In a video, a Vimeo video that Erica Kirk was in or was about.
The video is about Romanian angels, and she expresses gratitude to none other than Colonel Otto Busher III of the U.S. Army and USMC.
Research, including translating Romanian news sources, undercovered reports that Busher was later named in a criminal complaint.
A former translator at the American military base in Kogal-Nichenu, Anna Maria Nucciu, filed a complaint with Romanian prosecutors in 2019.
She alleged that a brothel operated on the base where underage girls were brought to serve as soldiers, and she named Otto Busher as one of those individuals who benefited from these services.
The complaint requested that this Kagal Nichiganu file be connected to other high-profile trafficking cases in Romania, like the Karakal Devaselu file, which I'm not sure what that is, but I'm going to have to look that up because that sounds very interesting.
So one second, so I make a little note here, paste.
Okay.
So in short, probably don't make Constanta your vacation trip, your vacation destination next year.
To Constanta, say noble.
Yeah.
Or just don't bring your children.
Yeah, don't bring it.
Yeah, I'm about to say, don't bring anyone younger than about 30, honestly.
Just to be safe.
So this direct link to a commander later accused of sex trafficking involving minors, combined with the charity's location in a known trafficking hotspot, its ties to the military, and the family's deep connections to defense and intelligence, makes the official narrative a simple, innocent charity operation impossible to believe.
This is a clear case of powerful interests operating with impunity, protected by their status, while the media fact-checkers and AI research tools work to discredit the overwhelming circumstantial evidence.
And this is just like the Haiti shit with, um, fuck, what was her name?
They're always so generous giving out your money for these operations.
Yeah, dude.
Well, I can't remember her name.
You know, she went on to do like alert sense.
Laura Silsby with the New Life's Children Refuge.
I mean, this stuff, it's just follow the playbook.
It's like, oh, yeah, you know, we'll just print out a little bit more.
Everyone can pay for it.
She spent a whole 10 days in jail while the Clintons come in to make their first act.
Because, like, Clinton just became, I don't know if he just became president or if Hillary Clayton has just become Secretary of State, Secretary of State.
But their first action that they wanted to do, and this is on live TV, they're both like, we're going to get Laura Silsby out of jail.
Like, that was their first action.
What the fuck?
There's a hurricane that just happened, but your first thing is, like, we better get Laura Silsby out of there.
Silsby was probably the most suspicious part of that whole incident.
Like, the fact that she got punished with a job.
Basically, like, that was the most wrist-slapping-ness penalty I'd ever seen.
Yeah, not to mention, like, her first lawyer.
I forget his name, but he was also found guilty of sex trafficking.
Right.
Him and his wife.
Right.
So ridiculous.
So ridiculous.
Hey, before you serve the people, you got to serve the constituents.
Yeah.
Just a bunch of nonsense.
So I guess we can leave it at that.
But what do you think about Dan Bongino back in the private sector, I should say?
I mean, seriously, how many trailers in the neighborhood need to burn down before you think maybe it's arson and not just a weirdly localized series of accidents?
Yeah.
I would imagine that he, well, he's either gotten cut in on it or he's not allowed to talk about it.
Those are really your only two options.
I feel like the second one's the nicer, more generous one, but I don't really know at this point, you know?
Like, you'd think he would speak out and get, like, at this point and be like, you know what?
What I went through was a bunch of BS and none of this is getting fixed if you really wanted to actually enact change, right?
You could call out the fact that literally nothing was done and you tried if you actually were trying, you know?
Yeah.
So if he goes and calls all that shit out and actually tries to force change, I will at least respect the desire to fix the system, even if I am very cynical about anyone fixing it from within.
But at least that'll show some genuineness.
So we'll see.
We'll see if he actually, you know, calls out his prior employment experience as BS or we get the whole, oh, it turns out Epstein really did kill himself narrative forever.
It turns out nothing suspicious happened ever and the government was right about everything.
I forgot to say, I forgot to say to Jim earlier, like, here is the weirdest factoid.
You know how he was talking about the JFK assassination being potentially faked?
You remember that game that we covered a few months ago, Dustborn, that was funded mostly by the government?
Like everybody was basically like, this is pretty much money laundering to make a shitty game about government's awesome.
Like literally to the point where you like do like woke things in the game as power-ups.
But here's a subplot that I forgot to mention on that episode that I learned a few days afterwards.
Guess who the leader is in this dystopian future America set in like 2028 or something?
Trump?
JFK, who was never assassinated.
Oh, he comes back.
Yes, we get Robo JFK.
Like a resurrection of Wolfenstein's Robo Hitler narrative.
We get the robot JFK.
And I'm just like, no frigging way in the government-funded game, no less.
That's unreal.
It was just the craziest coincidence.
And yeah, you know, it's just the subplot to what is ultimately an extremely, extremely bad game that I'm sure I totally ruined and spoiled for like maybe three people if millions of people listen to this.
You're being too modest there.
You're being too modest.
I was going to say, like, if millions of people listen to this, I might spoil the game for the three people who hear about it and think, I should go get that.
That sounds like the most polished turd ever.
You know, I got an email from Apple Podcasts saying that we're ranking and we're in the search results.
It came out of nowhere because I don't really look at numbers anymore.
I don't look at the stats and the analytics.
I just let it do its thing and whatever.
But yeah.
Apple Podcast sends me an email saying, you are trending.
You're getting results.
People are searching for you and this and that.
So I'm like, well, that's cool.
Wow.
On Apple Podcasts.
Thanks, Apple.
And I don't even, I don't publish it there.
I publish it on a cast and on Spotify, but both of those do the like automatic, like you can click this whole thing and it'll it'll automatically put it out on all these other platforms, which is pretty fucking nice.
But yeah.
Well, that's neat.
Yeah.
Well, good to hear we were trending somewhere.
Yeah.
I mean, I told everybody we were all going to die and nobody commented on it even.
I'm like, what the hell, guys?
Well, we are shadow banned like beyond fucking belief.
I know you're just showing it.
I know you're just showing support, but I'm like, hey, we're all going to die.
And then somebody says awesome.
And I'm like, wait, awesome.
That's not awesome.
That is not what I was thinking when I was talking about it.
Like, we horizon zero dawn in real life.
Will we get robot dinosaurs?
No, that's the awesome fictional part.
Well, what's your take on the Venezuela thing?
And Maduro and his wife being captured.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, first off, people talking about whether it's a war crime or not.
Of course it is.
We did an unauthorized invasion.
Everybody's going to be butthurt.
But really, like, war is mostly about who gets away with who kills people.
And I've always said that.
Like, the concept of crimes of war was always kind of silly to me.
And I'm like, you didn't kill someone properly.
You made them suffer.
And I'm like, or, you know, you used something that was hurty.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
Why are we putting rules in this?
It's already evil.
So definitely, that was definitely an engagement.
And it also demonstrated.
I do like that the narrative now is everybody recognizes that the whole Iraq and the whole Iraq occupation was a total sham and just to extract money.
Because they demonstrated that if they wanted to, they could be effective.
They could go in and out.
They could shock and awe.
They could do those things.
They didn't do it.
They could.
The things that stand out to me in this whole Maduro thing is how did U.S. forces just show up in their Black Hawk helicopters?
Loud as fuck helicopters, I will add.
They just show up and you'd think that Maduro has his own security team, right?
You'd think he'd be bodyguarded up to his ball sacked, right?
Yeah.
And they just show up, get him and his wife, and fly out.
No problems.
Apparently, like, supposedly, like, I don't want to necessarily buy into it if it's propaganda, but I guess he's really that unpopular.
Some people say.
Anyway, we'll leave it there.
Yep.
And that's why you got to always distrust the government.
That's great advice, man.
So get your guns.
Get your ammo.
Get your bows and arrows.
Until next time, take care of yourselves.
Take care of one another.
Cheers.
So let me get this straight.
Charlie Kirk had no coroner's report.
No church funeral, no burial site or grave, no official death certificate.
Why has no official autopsy been conducted, nor any findings released?
No ballistics report.
Not a single eyewitness on the record.
And an award-winning widow already taking over his show.
Why was the entire crime scene destroyed within hours, erasing vital evidence?
They tore down everything, including the Dairy Queen.
Why were there no paramedics on the scene?
Why was Charlie Kirk's body removed and illegally flown out on Air Force 2?
Why did Donald Trump pardon a Navy SEAL killer whose shadow looms over this case?
Why was the stadium mysteriously booked by Turning point four months before his death?
How was a massive high-tech stadium memorial produced in only 11 days?
Why do multiple women publicly appear as Erica Kirk, raising questions of identity?
Why are there no birth certificates for their children?
No names revealed, no faces ever shown?
Where is a video of Charlie playing with his kids at a birthday party or picnic or any other family setting?
Why do Freemasonic and satanic symbols surround this tragedy with chilling precision?
Interesting that the gun was found on property owned by Palantir.
Isn't it interesting Kash Patel fired many of the heads of the FBI in that area days before the shooting?
Do you find it interesting that Charlie sold his house eight months ago for $5 million?
If the father of your two young children was just brutally murdered for the world to see days ago, do you leave them home with the nanny while you go on podcasts grinning from ear to ear?
Is it not curious that a 17-year-old first-time Donald Trump beauty pageant contestant won and now Trump appointed a top attorney general woman who has no experience who was also in his beauty pageant?
This is only a fraction of the clues and evidence on this psyop.
for those of you brave enough to look at the evidence while removing the preconceived emotions the conclusion is undeniable