CONTACT US: Email: paranaughtica@gmail.com Twitter: @paranaughtica Facebook: The Paranaughtica PodcastContact Cricket: Website: www.theindividuale.com Twitter: @Individualethe Ladies and Gentlemen, Hello and Welcome.Today, we are covering PART 1 of our two-part series on the existence of what are known as Snuff Films, or Snuff Movies, or Snuff Videos, or simply ‘Snuff’.There has been a long debate in prominent newspapers by prominent journalists, as well as politicians, the entertainment industry, and the overall general population on whether such films exist. Most say that they don’t.But we are here today to expel those notions, to extinguish such generalities and inaccuracies. We’ll be talking about some pretty heavy things in this episode and it’s not for the faint of heart. Let that be your warning.We will also be doing a reading out of Simon Dovey’s book, “Eye of the Chickenhawk”, which is an astounding book that everyone should read.With that said, let’s buckle up, velcrow up, and somersault into this lurid topic. To check out a small batch of Coops’ music, go to this this link — https://on.soundcloud.com/Q1XRaY9WSpzawV9r7 CHECK YOUR LOCAL WATER TREATMENT LEVELS: EWG Tap Water Database ***If you’d like to help out with a donation and you’re currently listening on Spotify, you can simply scroll down on my page and you’ll see a button to help us out with either a one-time donation or you can set up a monthly recurring donation. ko-fi.com/paranaughticapodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
From the moment they're like, we're gonna release these files, it's like, that's a red flag.
No, you're not gonna release these fucking files, because if you did, the whole fucking government would crumble.
What are you talking about?
Like, who ever believed that Pam Bondi...
And the FBI was going to release everything on the Epstein files is absolutely absurd.
Well, I mean, now they got this whole cover story of, we found out who was destroying the evidence and they've been fired.
And I'm like, well, that's convenient because, you know, if they were prosecuted, they'd be, like, in a cell and be able to be interviewed and have to be a real person.
But since they're just fired, we can go ahead and never name them and they can never friggin' exist at all.
It's really a joke.
Super joke.
You think you could go into there and, like, take down one of their servers and they'd just be like, that's it, you.
You don't have a job here anymore.
Like, they wouldn't do anything more about it.
Yeah. And right off the bat, man, when the whole Cash Patel thing was happening, like, you know, like, last year, everyone's just raising this guy to a celebrity status and it's like, dude, this is the FBI we're talking about.
Do you not understand what the FBI does?
What they've done?
And you're, like, making this guy a celebrity?
You're making the FBI a celebrity group.
Like, why would you do this?
They fucking set you up.
They'll set you up in a heartbeat, throw you in jail for the rest of your fucking life, or just kill you outright.
But they're the good guys.
Oh. This is retarded, dude.
So fucking retarded.
Definitely lionize the dude.
I would have believed if he'd actually cleaned house, like supposedly he was going to.
So that's the trick, because I'm willing to believe people are going to do what they say.
If they do what they say.
I just pay attention after and see if they bother.
And in this case, yeah, he was supposed to clean house.
A whole lot of people were supposed to get exited.
And we're not talking about all these probationary employees.
We're talking about senior-level employees that were getting in the way of everything.
Long before they had the opportunity to do things like smash servers, they should have already been exited.
100 fucking percent.
On day one.
Like, come on, you guys.
Why would you put so much trust in these people?
Like, when has the government ever followed through with anything that's going to benefit the American people?
Never. And yet, you're just like, okay, well, next time they will.
Next time they will.
No, they won't.
When there's a knock-on secondary benefit, usually.
Like, uh...
I've noticed almost every time they announce a stimulus, they end up going through with it, because that ends up helping not only them, but all the people that give them money.
Because all that stuff goes into paying off bills and buying small-level items.
People always talk about buying the TVs and such, but the trick is a lot of the people that would be spending it on a TV are buying it because their old TV's burnt out.
It's a little different when you're replacing long-term items that are destroyed and not just trading up for luxury purposes.
So, all right.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the show, Paranautica Podcast.
I'm Coop.
We got Cricket here.
And we're just going to, like, talk about some stuff.
All right.
First up, we're just going to get in some news here.
Like, obviously, we're talking about this Epstein thing with Pam Bundy.
Bondy. Pam Bundy.
She might as well be a Bundy.
Who thought it was going to go somewhere?
Raise your hands.
I'm sure they're all up out there.
It's just such a joke.
Like, I mean, anybody who's looking into this stuff knows.
They know.
All right, so who's this guy?
DC Drano.
Libs of TikTok.
Cernovich. Okay, these people.
These people are all Zionists.
They're pro-Zionists.
Emily Austin.
They're all pro-Zionists.
So why were they given the folders?
Why were the Zionists given the folders to take down the Zionists?
Yeah, they're not going to hand it to like Tinfoil Hat or like the rabbit hole now, are they?
No, they would never.
They have to vet who they're going to give this to.
They're not going to give it to anybody who reveals any kind of dirt, right?
No, dude.
It's such a joke.
Like, I'd say I'm offended I didn't get one, but obviously I'm nowhere big enough to get it.
But at the same time, there's plenty of prominent people in the conspiracy space they could have had up there.
Redacted should have been humiliated with the picture.
But they knew that Redacted would be like, this is some BS.
I'm not doing it in the first place.
You guys are full of crap.
So they knew they couldn't actually get anybody from the conspiracy space anyways.
But it kind of asks you why they didn't at least feel out to see if they could find somebody.
Because it's like, they really did get all the people that effectively were accused of being conservative ink by Crowder back when he decided not to join the Daily Wire.
Like, it was very the mainstream conservatives out there.
So anyways, they released a binder.
Oh my god, dude.
What the fuck was going on?
Everything, all the power went out.
Everything's been weird lately, dude.
I don't know what the fuck's up.
Yeah, it has had some issues as of late.
I don't know what's going on.
With Connection Lake.
I think the government's into our shit.
Lots and lots of inputs.
Sometimes I'm not even holding it.
That's always annoying.
Yeah. Random input, too.
Just opening all kinds of crap.
Okay, so let's fucking get into this shit because...
Alright, first let's talk about this Pam Bondy bullshit not releasing the Epstein files and saying, oh my god, I'm going to fire the FBI people who are withholding these documents from me.
It's like, bitch, no you aren't, because you are part of this.
You're fucking playing your goddamn part.
So as we know, there was that little meeting they had, right?
It was like 15 attendees or whatever, 20 attendees.
They're all given the folders.
Phase 1 folders and they came out and were like propping them up like they're trophies, smiling, dancing around.
Holding them up like they're items from Zelda.
Yeah. So I'm going to list these names off because people are dying to know who all was there.
So the attendees that were at that little fucking meeting at the White House or whatever the fucking shit was, was Scott Presler, Chad Prather, Savannah Hernandez, Colin Rugg, Danielle DeSouza-Gill.
Carolyn Levitt.
Leave it?
Levitt? Whatever the fuck.
The White House Press Secretary.
Rogan O'Hanley.
Alex LaRusso.
Mike Cernovich.
One that is not named.
Liz Wheeler.
Old Rose Swig.
Emily Austin.
Nick Freitas.
Jessica Reed-Kraus.
Isabel Brown.
Chaya Rashik.
Lives of TikTok.
And Jack Prozbiak.
So... Who's Emily Austin?
She was a sports reporter, Miss Universe judge, but, you know, that's whatever.
She also is a member of Israel's UN mission and has met with the president of Israel, Isaac Herzog.
Well, I mean, that's the best way to avoid any accusations of conflicts of interest is to just go straight up get one.
Like, hey, I was worried about people accusing me.
So here you go.
Yeah, and they're all influencers, you know?
Influencers. We got Trump in office.
We got him in office.
Shut up, you fucking dumb influencers.
So she also met with Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovich, chairman of the Western Wall Heritage Foundation.
I mean, she's all over the place.
I mean, Emily Austin is like deep-throating Jews constantly.
I don't think there's a moment where she doesn't have a...
A Jew cock in her throat.
Anyway. Anyway.
Again, we love Jews here, just not the shitty Jews.
I mean, like I said, a lot of these ones, they wear the religion like a mask.
Yeah. A lot of them are just straight-up devil worshippers, and they just wear it as a veil, so...
Oh, since you mentioned that, hold on, because that...
Thank you for reminding me.
So... Let's listen to this.
This is what Judaism, what the Judaism's view on Satan is.
Let's listen.
Hey Rabbi, what's Judaism's view on Satan, the devil?
In Judaism, Satan, isn't an enemy waging war on God.
It's more like a divine tester.
He challenges us so we can show our true character.
Unlike pop culture's devil, this Satan serves God's purpose, highlighting our moral choices rather than fighting against.
Well, I would note that that is actually a false statement, as the pop culture depiction of the devil per Lucifer would be as a tester.
They had literally just made a show where they depicted him as a tester of souls.
So, yeah, that would be the pop culture depiction we have.
I don't know where he's getting this other one.
Who the fuck knows?
That's the old one.
That's the former impression.
The impression we used to have.
So these four people, these influencers, let's see.
Rogan O'Hanley, okay.
Retarded Jew.
He's Jewish and has proven to be a great ally to Israel.
He's gone to Israel numerous times.
Even tries to protect Israel from the whole October 7th bullshit.
I mean, this guy's deep.
Balls deep in Jews.
Yeah, I mean, he is a Jew.
I mean, he's made a lot of – he's used a lot of catchphrases, but I'd wager one that you've never seen on his Twitter feed was Hannibal Doctrine.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah. And then there's Mike Cernovich, super alt-right internet personalities.
He tried to blame FBI for Epstein.
I mean, Epstein was working for the FBI.
There are FBI documents that are out there for everyone to see that says clearly in the writing Epstein was working for the FBI.
I mean, I posted on Twitter numerous times.
He says, Mossad's never implicated in anything.
Don't be anti-Semitic.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
He's huge friends with Alan Dershowitz.
Huge friends.
I mean, that alone raises flags.
I was just reading a link somebody put up to the original story about why, what's his name, Alex Acosta nuked his prosecution.
Because there was the one time where he ended up going down for something really minor.
But then there was the other time where he just kind of ended it.
And that's actually the one where people point to a lot of the Mossad ties.
Since, as I recall, it was kind of explicitly thrown out there during that whole thing.
Like, yeah, we can't prosecute this dude.
Which they went on to do a token...
Prosecution. I'm like, give somebody 13 months for what that guy did?
Come on.
Yeah, it's all a joke.
Like, I'm pretty sure that that was, like, club-fed.
Like, pretty much, thank you for not escaping conditions.
Oh, yeah, dude.
100%. And then the next one here, Mike Cernovich.
So, Shia Reshick lives at TikTok, right?
She's a prominent member of the Chabad Lubavitch community.
In New York, she runs a huge Israel influence operation through her account.
I mean, she's like the rest of them, deep-throating Jewish people left and right.
She's also partnered with Seth Dillon, who is also a huge Israeli influencer.
Anyway, we all know the whole Epstein thing is just a farce.
It's all just shit to keep us distracted.
No one's ever going to go to jail for it.
Not a single person is going to be arrested.
Not a single government official is going to be arrested for anything related to Epstein.
I can guarantee that.
Because if I was lying about that right now, we would already have seen some arrests.
Would we have not?
How long has it been since this shit's been going on?
It's like the only possibility that people are holding out for, realistically, is the, well, what I was sarcastically terming, they add a few new names to the list of what we already know and go after those people.
Which, for all you know, that might not even be people that were originally on there.
I mean, that's the real trick.
It's like, how many years has it been?
And you don't think that anything really important has been altered away already.
I'm like, did they really think that they were that well insulated?
I have my doubts.
That they just thought, yeah, we're never going to lose power to the point where they needed to smash servers and destroy a whole bunch of data and stuff.
To, quote, get fired, but let's not, you know, name and shame or scapegoat the person because then we actually have to have a real person go down.
But as long as we just, I'm like, come on, like, how gullible are y'all?
Like, you need to ask for receipts, public.
And they all seem to think that, like, all of a sudden the government is deciding to look into this.
Like, everything taken from Epstein's houses and apartments, whatever, condos.
It's like that people think that all that was just stored in a storage facility and then all of a sudden now they're deciding to look at it.
No, dude.
All these years they've been manipulating it, deleting shit for this specific moment when all this is coming out.
Because now they have everything just perfectly polished away.
Perfectly polished away.
Man, that's the low end.
They weren't consuming it themselves and or passing it along.
As they delete things, they could pass it along on the dark black market and be like, not ours.
Exactly. And, I mean, the FBI, the CIA, they're the largest holders of child pornography.
They are the child pornography people.
Like, they're the ones that push it all out there.
They're the ones that start websites and get things going.
They're the ones doing it all.
Honeypots. That's all it is.
Yeah, so you should treat with a little cynicism any government initiative against it, because it just smacks of some Stalin-esque we would lead every revolution against us.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
And they had taken something like 120 terabytes of footage and pictures, essentially, from Epstein that shows all of this, all these assaults, sexual assaults, rapes, and all of these things with children.
And if...
People have laid this all out.
So if you played 120 terabytes of information 24-7, you would just press play on the VCR.
It would play consistently, constantly for nine years straight.
That's how much data they have.
I mean, that's a whole lot of clockwork orange MK Ultra Psychos you could make out of shock footage right there.
That's a disturbing thought and a disturbing number.
You think about that scene from A Clockwork Orange where they have all the messed up scenes spliced together.
Imagine nine years of continuous original content.
So revolting.
Nine years straight.
And the FBI has all of that.
The DOD, all these government factions, they're the ones that have it all.
And when you look at their Slack channels and all the...
Pervertedness in it.
You can't imagine that they dipped in it at some point.
I mean, I talk about all the time how the Pentagon was caught with like 5,200 different employees having CPA on their fucking computers.
High-ranking, you know, top, top, top secret clearances.
And this goes all the way to the top.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, there's documented proof of all this stuff.
This isn't just simply speculation.
But you always hear the parents go, No evidence.
No evidence.
No evidence.
Holly won a White House gig.
Tons of evidence, and they're hiding it all.
And you know, it's funny, I haven't seen anything from that Representative Luna lady, Paulina Luna, whatever her fuck name is.
Well, I saw one post from her complaining about what a joke the release was, and yeah, I think that cost her her access.
Okay, that makes sense.
That's how access media works.
Yeah, because I was thinking to myself, I was like, is a single one, it was like, is a single clown in this clown show even going to pretend to be upset by this?
And I'm like, oh, there's one person actually complaining and being like, that was some BS.
You need to actually release to the American people the real dirt you got.
Which still was a little naive to me because it still implies there is dirt to be had, but yeah.
Well, dude, it's so dumb because in those files, those binders, the phase one trophies, all that information has already been publicly revealed.
Like, I have all that information unredacted.
Unredacted. I have it all.
And they give this stuff to these influencers to give to everybody else, and it's all redacted.
And it's like, what are you doing?
What are you doing?
Like, obviously, this is all for the normies.
To get the normies to be like, oh, my God, we're moving forward.
It's like, oh, my God.
Oh, for fuck's sake.
Let me just repeat my rant from before for when you went offline for a second.
So, you know, KJP, good old Kareem Jean-Pierre, she got the nickname of Binder during the last episode of Presidency.
Yeah. So, you know, I always thought that was funny.
Like, I think Jessie Waters coined the term and everybody started calling her binder after that because she never has any answers.
She just refers to the binder and then never even actually says anything out of the binder.
Just says, we've already been very clear.
Well, now they all get to be binder too.
I mean, look at them.
They're all binder because they all just reference the binder and be like, yep, we're getting the dirt.
This is the goods.
We got it all.
That one lady, Emily or whatever her name is, dude.
She's the one that's holding it up and she's smiling and laughing like it's a big fucking joke.
She just got paid a bunch of- Is she the one that's actually holding it over her head like Zelda style that made me think of that?
It's the lives of TikTok, girl.
Yeah, I just thought to myself, I was like, yep, you have obtained an item.
You have found a purple rupee.
She's just over there rubbing herself, fucking getting off in this shit.
Well, you know, like- I mean, it's got to be very ego-stroking, and they always target these people who are easily swayed via ego in the first place.
Yeah. So, that's the trick.
You always have to ask yourself, some of them might actually have direct intel backgrounds and stuff, but an awful lot of them are just getting pushed by the algo and might be completely oblivious.
That they're just being curated to say certain stuff.
I always do hold open the possibility that they are legitimately useful idiots just being duped.
Because, yeah, a lot of people are.
Yeah, they are open to being duped.
They almost love it.
It's like, please use me as a tool for your sick fucking purposes.
They couldn't be happier.
Yeah. I mean, you got to ask yourself, at what point do you no longer accept that they're doing it unconsciously is the real question.
Because there's a certain point where it's like, hey, I'm getting all these sponsorship offers.
Everybody loves me.
If everybody loves me and 100% supports what you're doing, you're absolutely never doing the right thing.
And you should have figured that out by now in this society.
Like, if there isn't somebody telling you that you suck and there's no evidence and unnamed officials can prove you wrong, you ain't coming on the real dirt.
Nope. Like, you're coming upon something that you were made to find.
It's, you know, somebody buried that treasure for you, and it just doesn't occur to you that there might be stuff to mine for.
Yeah, I mean, the whole thing is a honeypot from Assad, the FBI, the CIA, and Keith Woods.
On Twitter here, he gave a pretty good breakdown of how Jeffrey Epstein is an agent for Israel.
I mean, it's blatantly obvious to most of us who have been looking at this stuff forever.
But here's his list.
Former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Manashi alleges Epstein ran a honeypot for Mossad after being recruited by Ghislaine Maxwell.
Maria Farmer, the first victim to report Epstein to the FBI, said everyone involved in their operation was a Jewish supremacist who racially abused her as a non-Jew.
She claimed the operation was led by the Mega Group.
Mega Group is an organization of exclusively Jewish billionaires set up to fund Jewish and pro-Israel causes.
Wait, how do you spell that?
Which one?
How do you spell?
Did you say Mega?
Mega. Yeah, M-E-G-A.
Yeah, Mega Group.
Dear God, it's like the real-life version of Vile from frickin' Darkwing Duck.
Oh my God.
All the rich villains just getting together to talk about how they're going to manipulate stuff behind the scenes.
That's exactly it.
And one of the co-founders of Mega was Victoria's Secret owner Les Wexner, who provided Epstein with his $77 million house in Manhattan, which he used for part of this blackmail ring.
New York Times ran an article in the 1990s reporting that the apartment, when Wexner owned it, it was described as reminiscent of a James Bond movie.
Just super high spy type shit, right?
And Wexner was the only client of Epstein's mysterious hedge fund, an apparent source of his wealth.
That's not weird.
Single source investor?
That happens all the time.
That's not suspicious at all.
All the time?
I only have one client.
And Epstein was hired to work for Bear Stearns in 1970 by who?
Alan Greenberg, another member of Megagroup.
And, you know, prior to that, Epstein was just a schoolteacher, just a measly schoolteacher, which...
He didn't even have credentials to be a schoolteacher, and he's teaching college classes at a private college.
Like, come on, guys.
And see, another mega group member, Ronald Lauder, is president of the World Jewish Congress and has been a big donor of Netanyahu's Likud party.
You always have to ask yourself when they have these, like, university positions, can anyone remember learning anything under their tutelage?
No. I guarantee you no one's going to step forward and be like, oh yeah, I remember him teaching us all the good things.
Yeah, every time somebody always asks like, hey, could one of his students come forward and say like, hey, I actually studied with this guy?
Like, it's just crickets.
Yeah, crickets.
And Epstein's associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, a top Mossad spy, owned a ton of newspaper stuff back in the day.
And Robert Maxwell's business partner was Charles Bronfman.
A co-founder of the Megagroup, who doesn't get talked about enough, Charles Bronfman.
He needs to be talked about more.
And Epstein's lawyer, longtime friend, Alan Dershowitz, is an ultra-Zionist, author of The Case for Israel, and was considered by Israel to represent them at the ICJ.
And look, guys, Trump is a huge Israel supporter.
Huge Israel supporter.
I mean, this goes all the way to the top.
Epstein had multiple meetings with former Israeli PM Ehud Barak in his New York apartment.
Les Wexner's Wexner Foundation gave Barak $2 million in 2004 for still unspecified research.
I wonder what that was for.
And Barak says he was first introduced to Epstein by former Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres, who gave a eulogy at Robert Maxwell's funeral.
And Epstein and Barack were business partners in a tech company.
The company's executive team were all former members of Israeli intelligence.
How much more evidence do we need?
I mean, if you want to know if the feds are as perverted as the rest of them, you've only got the Slack channels to reference to.
I feel like that kind of put to bed the whole, nah, they're not talking about a bunch of disgusting stuff.
Behind the scenes, they wouldn't cover this up.
They'd see it and be like, I'm gonna go straight to management.
That put that to bed for a lot of people, that delusion.
Although, like, I bet many will still willingly believe it.
Definitely. Apparently, Epstein had a connection to Randy Weaver.
Really? Ruby Ridge.
This is interesting.
I need to look at this.
What is this?
Did you know that Jeffrey Epstein's mysterious death and Randy Weaver's Just Say No to Zog?
Zionist operating government.
Boom. So there's a famous picture of Randy Weaver with his family, who the FBI and the ATF murdered at Ruby Ridge.
He's sitting on a couch wearing No to Zog.
Just Say No to Zog.
That's really interesting.
Randy Weaver.
Wow. In July of 1989, Weaver invited the informant to his home to discuss forming a group to fight the Zionist organized government, referring to the U.S. government.
So they were using him as an infiltration agent.
Yeah. Yeah, so that guy...
To infiltrate an anti-government group.
Yeah. Because three months later, Weaver sold that informant to Sadov Shotguns.
Weaver was like, dude, I don't want any part of your fucking criminal shit.
Because Weaver wasn't really about that.
And this guy just was unrelenting.
He's like, dude, I need some weapons, please.
And Randy Weaver was finally like, fine, dude, I'll get you a fucking shotgun.
And he got him a couple shotguns.
And then the rest is history.
Yeah, and then they all got blasted.
It's a very gruesome story of why our government sucks.
They murdered his son.
They murdered his wife.
Shot her in the head with a sniper rifle, dude.
Right next to them.
Her fucking brain matter and skull was shattered into their daughter.
Their daughter got wounded from their mother's blasted skull, dude.
But I mean, at least that two inches shorter barrel could no longer hurt anyone.
Jesus. Boy, it's a good thing we sawed off those two inches.
Yeah, we put two inches back on the gun.
It's safe now.
It's safe.
Everyone's dead, so they can't shoot them.
So it's extra safe.
So yeah, I mean, alright, we'll move on from that.
That's enough talking about that.
I mean, that's...
We're not gonna see anything come to light.
We're not.
We're not gonna see any of it.
Nah, it's a...
It's fun to speculate using the information we already have because, well, you got everything already that you're going to get.
Maybe some names will pop out of the hat in the next few days if they need to hem somebody up that ain't playing on the script.
Yeah, or low-hanging fruit, keep people occupied.
Well, yeah, because at some point people aren't going to...
I'm going to go back to why didn't the Epstein stuff come out?
Because, you know, right now they're pushed on to talk about Ukraine all the time.
Oh, yeah.
And, like, they're just...
Trump is continually sending billions to Israel.
It's like, how much now?
It's like $10 billion in the past couple weeks straight to Israel.
For what?
Why? To rebuild it?
To make a big, giant fucking Trump?
He's going to actually make that gold statue that he put in the weird AI video.
Why would he put that video up?
Why would he do that?
It's like, first off, nobody's going to be building any resorts anytime soon.
Such a joke.
Such a joke.
So, alright.
Basically, we're not here to talk about Epstein.
We're actually here to talk about Eye of the Chicken Hawk and specifically Snuff Films.
Which we're going to get into in a minute here as soon as I cool off.
I'm getting all heated.
Getting all heated.
You better have those files on my desk by 8 o'clock a.m. tomorrow.
Or else we'll have to fire another imaginary person.
Yeah. Let's see these names of people that are supposed to be getting fired.
Pam Bondi.
I mean, as much as I'm convinced that he's totally controlled for the most part, I did have to give freaking cat turd props for actually calling it out as bullshit.
And saying, this was a joke.
I know, dude.
That's so funny you said that, because I saw that yesterday.
I was like, wow.
Cat turds, actually, I'm actually for this for once.
I'm like, yeah, I'm like, hey, he's showing some integrity there, saying, this is ridiculous.
What a joke.
And it's like, it's funny, actually, because it's a lot of the ones that seem like they get the accusation to be in the most disingenuous, like Laura Loomer and Cat Turd and stuff.
That are actually in the place of being like, what a joke this is.
And why?
Because they didn't get invited?
Because they probably wouldn't play ball.
Everybody's like, well, why wasn't he up there?
Because honestly, the dude is just as prominent as anybody on that stage.
It's because he probably said no.
Yeah, and I'm not a fan of Laura Loomer at all either.
Yeah, but I had to give her props because she actually called it out as BS.
And everybody's all like, oh, you're just grifting too.
And I'm like, yeah, because those people up there ain't grifting.
Yeah, and she, because Pam Bondi blocked her on Twitter, right?
That's like, that's the equivalent of unfriending on Facebook.
Yeah, it's like unfriending in real life.
We've all seen the South Park episode.
Yeah, it's the fact that she would block Laura Loomer after Laura Loomer called her out on all this bullshit.
It's just hilarious.
It's fucking absolutely hilarious.
Well, yeah.
I mean, Laura Loomer is basically a shock jock, and she will jump on any sensationalist National Enquirer garbage.
So, again, like I'm saying, it's the most disingenuous ones that are actually showing a shred of integrity here.
The rest of them are kind of demonstrating that it was just a veneer.
Yep. Because, honestly, it's not about...
Like, when things are easy, it's about when the chips are down and you actually have to put your foot down.
And this is supposed to be the most transparent government?
Yep, according to the trademark slogan.
On the binder, DM.
That's such a joke.
Oh, it's such a joke.
I mean...
Last time we had one press secretary that never answered any questions.
Now we've got, like...
Oh, yeah.
Now we effectively have a dozen press secretaries to dispense adjunct problems.
Yeah, and the whole Zelensky-Biden, or Zelensky-Trump and J.D. Vance thing, that was...
They all have MD, IDM, IMD, whatever the fuck, IMDBs?
IMDBs, yep.
I mean, it really did feel like a big show.
It did.
It did.
100%. Everybody's all mad and stuff.
Everybody's all angry.
And then, honestly, the sad thing is the people that are getting mad about it seem like they're putting on a show.
It's like very Shakespearean.
Yeah. Oh, God.
I guess apparently Israel is trying to legalize pedophilia.
Avi Moaz, Mao's, the Jerusalem Post made an article.
A couple years ago, actually.
But they legitimately are trying to legalize pedophilia.
And, yeah, Alan Dershowitz is, like, fully behind it.
And that Schmule guy, the fucking, ugh, Rabbi Schmule.
That guy looks like a fucking freak.
Well, the annoying thing is that probably a lot of them want to legalize what they already did.
But it wouldn't make what they did not crimes when they did it anyways.
Right, right, right, right.
You go knock over a liquor store and then they legalize Robin liquor stores.
You still did it when it was illegal.
Grandfather it in.
We take the California approach to law.
Well, all right.
Snuff films.
I mean, because like everyone is saying, all the Jewish pedophiles are fleeing to Israel because they won't get tried there.
Well, you know.
That's a rather telling statistic.
Like when that lady tweeted out that banning abortions is infringing on her religious practices.
Unreal. Unreal.
Alright, snuff films.
Let's get into this.
People are waiting for us to get into snuff films.
So, Cricket, what's a snuff film?
What is that?
What is a snuff film?
It's the kind of film that kills more than just the audience.
Yeah. So snuff films, for those who don't know, a snuff film or a snuff movie, snuff video, whatever, it's...
It's a gruesome depiction of usually a staged murder, oftentimes involving some kind of ritualistic practices as well.
Yeah, well, typically, you know, a snuff film is recording the murder of somebody for strictly the purposes of getting off on it or, like, you know, enjoying it.
Or for customer consumption, for that matter.
Or for customer consumption.
Someone else can enjoy it.
Yeah, it's defined as being as produced for profit or financial gain.
The concepts of snuff films first became a general kind of public knowledge type of thing in the 1970s when a conspiracy theory alleged that a clandestine industry was producing such films for profit.
And there was a movie in 1976 called Snuff, which capitalized on that legend through a disingenuous marketing campaign.
And that movie, Snuff, was all special effects just to get the whole shock value of it.
But Snuff movies do exist.
They are real.
There are actual films of people being murdered for specifically getting off on and financial gain.
But what does Snopes say about snuff films?
Are you interested in hearing what Snopes has to say?
Yes, let's ask the parrot.
What does the parrot say?
Well, they say, time and again, what is originally decried in the press as a film of a murder turns out upon further investigation to be fake.
Police on three continents routinely investigate films brought to them, and so far, this has always been their verdict.
No snuff films exist.
Some clever fakes, but no real product.
Bullshit. Bull fucking shit.
I mean, they're still writing articles literally saying the imagined moral panic of child sex trafficking, so I really can't take these people seriously.
No, don't ever take Snopes seriously.
And, I mean, I don't know who is...
You've seen Faces of Death, right?
You've heard about it, at least.
Yes, I remember seeing an anime homage to it.
Oh, yeah.
Well, Faces of Death, I mean, it was a series of films.
The first one was the better one of them.
I think there were three of them, but most of the footage is all fake in those series.
Most of it's fake.
There are some accurate pieces of film in there that are legitimately real deaths.
But none of them are snuff films.
I mean, the crazy thing is they can actually claim this.
I'm like, for God's sake, like, live leak used to be a thing, guys.
I know, seriously.
Oh, that's the same with the Dubinovich killers.
Those two kids or three kids in Russia who were killing people with hammers.
I think it was like three guys, one hammer or something like that.
And it's a film.
It's so brutal.
And it shows these three guys.
The teenagers, really, they bring a homeless guy out in the woods, just off this road, and the guy's super drunk, he falls over, and one of the teens just starts going to town on his face with a hammer, and it's so fucking brutal,
I can't, I don't even want to explain it.
The blood is just...
Unreal. How much blood comes out of this guy's fucking head.
And then they take a screwdriver and the filmer, the one film in it, takes a screwdriver and goes into his eyeball and like stirs his brain around.
And this is so gnarly.
All filmed.
And all of it was part of snuff films because these kids were proposed to, like some rich guy in Russia was like, hey, if you record some videos of murders, I will pay you X amount of dollars.
And so these kids are like, hell yeah, dude.
And they killed.
Multiple human beings with hammers and knives and all sorts of shit.
And before that, they were killing animals and recording that and selling those.
So you're going to sit here and tell me, Snopes, that snuff films don't exist.
Come on.
Well, as long as they don't look into it and nobody finds those links and they never end up on Snopes, they can keep squawking there.
No evidence.
No evidence.
That's always how it works.
It's so annoying.
Because there is evidence.
Tons. They just won't look into it.
Or they'll do the...
It's the Pentagon method is what it is, where they'll say, oh, well, most of them, when they were looked into, were fake.
And you're like, okay, what about the rest of them?
Moving on.
Exactly. No evidence, as you know, except for the evidence.
There is no evidence.
And so the Manson murders, they filmed...
They filmed those murders, but I think the FBI has those on lockdown.
I mean, that would establish 100% that they exist then.
Yeah. So again, if you've got Telegram or X, for that matter...
You can find footage.
You know snuff films exist because how many postings have people put up of drone footage in the Ukrainian war now of random surrendering people, like massive Geneva Convention violations on tape, basically, of killing surrendering combatants and stuff.
Yeah, dude.
And serial killers.
You think nobody's watching those for entertainment or consumptive purposes?
Everyone's just sitting there horrified?
Yeah, I got news for this.
Yeah, dude.
And numerous serial killers have filmed their murders for profit.
Take for Charles Ng and Leonard Lake.
They videotaped their murders.
They even pre-recorded...
What did they do?
They recorded this thing to say, look...
Here's how this is going to play out.
You've been kidnapped.
You're going to be our...
Our sex object for however long we need you, and then we're going to kill you.
They would make their victims listen to this shit, and then they would do whatever they did, film it, and go on to the next one.
And Lawrence Bitteker, Roy Norris, they also did the same thing.
Paul Bernardo, Carlo Homolka, they're said to do the same thing.
But yeah, well, there's where the ritual comes in.
They all give the same exact show.
That part of it is telling them what's going to happen.
Yeah, dude.
See, especially the fact that you tell me all those stories have that same parallel, that's a little odd to be the one thread because it's not really necessary.
Right. There's also the video, you can see this one too online, Luca Magnata who killed his boyfriend and chopped him up into pieces and like...
Had sex with the body.
This guy fucking like stabbed a hole in this dude's fucking stomach and fucked the hole.
Luca Magnata.
He cut off the dude's head, sent it to like a government building, cut off his hands, sent those to a different government building.
You know, he was like sending these body parts to different areas around Canada.
And the cops were after him.
They found him in a fucking internet cafe in 2012.
So many fucked up people.
And you can't like, don't confuse like Mexican cartel videos and jihadist videos of beheadings as snuff films.
Those are kind of snuff films, but they're also just, that's just what they do to get fear out, right?
It's a fear propaganda in those situations.
We're talking about like snuff films where people are getting off on their shit for public consumption.
Well, yeah, part of the intention is that somebody else should watch it.
Sometimes it's less for the entertainment of the viewer and more for the entertainment of the psycho.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, and a big one was Peter Scully, the Australian sex offender and murderer who was making films of raping and murdering kids and, yeah, putting those up on his website.
But no, snuff films don't exist.
They don't exist.
What are we talking about?
Yeah, aside from all these crazy people who we have documented evidence of doing this.
It's such a joke.
But yeah, see, the thing is, is that, I mean, honestly, I feel like Snopes would have a hard time even coping with just, like, jihadist-type videos existing.
Like, they'd almost try to deny those are Snuff films.
Because I'm like, people who watch those...
For entertainment purposes.
I'm sorry.
There was an entire website dedicated to it for literally years.
Yeah. Well, there still is.
There's a bunch of them.
I mean, the YNC, the Young News Channel, that's a big one.
You can go watch all sorts of depth on that.
The trick is these are productions.
Yeah. Yeah.
So, you know, they're actually producing them as opposed to...
And then there's, you know...
They happen to be recording the thing they're already doing.
That's the real difference.
Have you watched the movie Cannibal Holocaust?
Uh-uh.
I don't know.
It's worth a watch.
Let's just get past that.
But we're going to get into this book here.
Eye of the Chicken Hawk by Simon Dovey.
This is a phenomenal read.
I know I've been talking about it in the past couple episodes.
If you're into this weird fucked up shit that the government does, this book is for you.
So, aside from Snopes and all these other bullshit fact checkers, Telling you all lies.
Let's get into some real shit.
All right, let's go.
So, Snuff Films.
And this is going to be a reading straight out of the book here.
Okay, so if art is a peek inside the psyche of society at any given moment, the snuff film is sure to mark the end of it.
The definition here is specific.
It is not just a film produced to capture a live murder on film, but one produced for the express purpose of pleasing an audience.
Live murder films produced and circulated by drug cartels or terrorist groups are not snuff films, but propaganda.
They just get it anyways.
Yeah, yeah.
And one would imagine the desire to film a real murder had existed long before the means to do so became widespread around the turn of the 20th century.
As image capture technology became more widely available in the early decades of that century, it's hard to imagine somebody somewhere didn't make the very first snuff film.
Yet, the usual culprits still to this day, for some strange reason, assert...
Such a thing is an urban myth.
Snopes, you fucking shitheads.
As one fact checker put it in 2021, quote, All the fretting about it aside, not so much as one snuff film has been found.
Time and again, what is originally decried in the press as a film of a murder, turns out, upon further investigation, to be a fake.
Police on three continents routinely investigate films brought to them, and so far, this has always been their verdict.
No snuff films, some clever fakes, yes, but no real product.
End quote.
And actually, I read that off Snopes, so that's where Simon Dovey got that quote from.
Oh, yeah, so, you know, Snopes is intel.
Snopes is big intel.
Unsurprisingly. As nice as that would be, in reality, snuff films were confirmed by law enforcement authorities before the turn of the 20th century.
In 1999, it was reported, quote, Two Germans have been jailed for life after becoming the first people in Europe to be convicted of murder while producing a snuff movie, a film in which real victims are tortured and killed.
A court in the town of Hagen heard how Ernst Dieter Kordzen, 37, and Stefan Michael Mann, 30, filmed themselves sexually assaulting and torturing a 21-year-old woman in 1997 to produce the snuff movies which they expected to sell for more than $25,000.
The victim died before the production was complete.
And the pair kidnapped a second woman to finish the video.
But she escaped and the men were arrested.
Wolfgang Rahmer, the chief prosecutor, told the court, From my experience, this represents a new depth in perversion.
You see the victim begging for her life, pain being inflicted, and massive sexual torture.
According to André Roge, a private detective in Belgium, the cruel fantasies of such movie makers even extend to children.
Roge specializes in seeking missing children and fears many are victims of the snuff film industry.
He said the German case was not isolated, but involved an international network.
I mean, I believe it.
When you look at the story, think about the fact that they tried to get a second person to create a production that shows there's a certain ritual involved, a certain procedure to these things.
That implies there's already a market.
Right. And they knew that what they had at the time wasn't going to fulfill that market demand and that they were going to have to produce something more similar to it.
Which is where you get the ritualistic performance of telling them that it's going to happen and everything playing out a certain way is because, well, that's the production.
That's the MO and the production.
Yeah. Because, you know, it's also their method of being a murderer.
That's horrible stuff.
So all these fears were confirmed the following year when Italian authorities discovered films coded necros pedo.
Among those being distributed internationally by a child porn network based in Russia.
Here's another quote.
Last week, Italian police seized 3,000 of Kuznetsov's videos on their way to clients in Italy, sparking an international hunt for pedophiles who have bought his products.
Said the material includes footage of children dying during abuse.
Prosecutors in Naples are considering charging those who have bought the videos with complicity in murder.
They say some may have specifically requested films of killings.
The most appalling category was codenamed Necrospedo.
In which children were raped and tortured until they died.
The Naples newspaper Il Matino published a transcript of an alleged email exchange between a prospective client and the Russian vendors.
Promise me you're not ripping me off, says the Italian.
Relax. I can assure you this one really dies, the Russian responds.
The last time I paid, I didn't get what I wanted.
What do you want?
To see them die.
And this is all in an article by The Observer, released on October 1, 2000, called British Link to Snuff Videos.
But hey, snuff films don't exist.
No. The concept of a snuff film appears to have first been introduced into the public mind during the 1960 film Peeping Tom.
In that film, the protagonist is the son of a behavioral psychologist who used him in experiments during early childhood to study the response of the central nervous system to fear.
Because of this, in adulthood, the protagonist has developed a sadistic fascination with fear and starts to capture it on the faces of women he murders on film.
That's generally the purpose, the consensus of how these films and these operations operate.
I mean, you just have to look historically to public executions and remind yourself that they were not staged to scare people.
They were entertainment productions.
They were there for the entertainment of the masses.
People would be there cheering.
Right, and then they wanted a piece to take home.
People would buy some concessions, for God's sake, and they'd want pieces of the podcast.
Yeah, they'd get the little toast.
So it's like – so that's the thing.
It's like if you're wondering if Psyche is depraved enough to want these things, we have already proven it many times over.
Yes. Yeah.
So the term snuff movie was then coined a decade later by Ed Sanders in his 1971 book The Family, which detailed his investigation into the violent escapades of Charles Manson and his followers during the late 1960s.
Manson's cult had often recorded their group activities with Super 8 cameras and screened these bizarro flicks at makeshift outdoor cinema events held in private at the Spahn Movie Ranch.
These films had mostly been of group sex and nonsense performance art, but some had included the torture and murder of animals.
According to one individual Sanders interviewed who attended one of these screenings, they'd seen a short five-minute film.
Super 8 reel of a young woman being beheaded on a beach, referring to it as a snuff movie.
Yeah, so I wonder, is it the same term if you're like, you know, snuff films is murder of a human being, but is it the same with animals?
Like, these animal torture folks?
I mean, technically, the lexicon is generally only used to apply.
Because people usually just use the catch-all of animal abuse for animal videos.
I still feel like animal abuse videos are a whole different category from this whole murdering an animal in a way where you show it what's going to happen and terrify it first.
Yeah, that's a whole other area.
People say that slaughtering animals is barbaric and I always think, yeah, that's...
You don't do this to the animal.
You make it a surprise and a shock not tell it what's going to happen to it and lead it to the gallows.
We can conceptualize instances where a person might have actually done something to earn it in some situations, whereas it's a lot harder to conceptualize an animal that doesn't have rational thought coming up with some dastardly scheme that allows this level of depravity to be okay.
Honestly, it feels like a defense mechanism because if people just had to full-on embrace the fact that, yes, this is a disgusting part of our psyche that we really need to look at and not look away from, it would break some people.
Well, for real.
Some people need that Pollyanna.
When I was reading this, it talked about these private movie screenings, and I couldn't help but think about the whole Tony Podesta.
Back to the Comet Ping Pong thing was going on, Tony Podesta, he did an interview about how he has a private screening room in one of his mansions where his elite friends will go and gather and watch his private films.
This makes you wonder, what are they watching?
Because they're private and he won't talk about them.
But we all know Tony and John Podesta and who they're linked with and that whole fucking escapade, right?
So you can only imagine.
What are these secret screenings that these people are watching?
They're attending them with a lot of people where they are not themselves publicity hounds, but suddenly those people don't really want to be talked to or interviewed about it either.
I was never there.
I was never with them.
Never at those parties.
Not in those emails.
Suddenly people who So Sanders had posed as an art dealer looking to acquire Manson Family Films during the trial and learned that seven hours of assorted erotic films,
including Manson porn, collected during the pretrial investigations, but the price was $250,000.
And a friend of Gary Hinman, one of Manson's family victims, claimed to a reporter that they'd been in possession of films of, quote, Malibu and San Francisco axe murders, end quote.
One snuff movie was rumored to have been sold to a famous New York artist, who Sanders does not name, though he also references Andy Warhol just prior to that.
So, yeah, Andy Warhol, man, I'm pretty sure he was involved in some fucked up shit.
I mean, when you think about how ingenuine the art community was, I was actually thinking about this angle for that Creating Reality episode I was mentioning, where essentially we're making everything uglier and uglier.
Mm-hmm.
And, you know, your environment creates your situation over time.
So, yeah, this whole uglification is all on purpose when they're doing these things.
Man, I went to the Andy Warhol Museum in, what, Pittsburgh, I believe?
Yeah. It's a pretty crazy place.
I mean, the real smoking gun was, you know, Jackson Pollock being funded by the CIA, supposedly to show the...
Show the freedom that artists were having.
But I think that was part of that uglification process of, oh, you don't accept this art?
Well, here's some even trashier trash.
To the point where people are literally peeing in a jar and throwing a crucifix in it and saying, this is art.
Pay me.
Yeah, I saw a bunch of Jackson's artwork at Andy Warhol at the museum.
And yeah, you can see...
This one was made with Pollock's urine.
This one was made with his feces.
It's like, what the fuck, dude?
Yeah. Eggshells and shit.
So, you know, that guy was directly CIA-connected, so...
But how actually organic was his rise to prominence?
Or did they want him to just get famous because then he can go ahead and uglify the art world?
While at the same time turning all of our buildings into a bunch of cybertech dormitories or cyberpunk dormitories instead of, you know, because, you know, like I was saying, like your situation comes out of your environment and it's like you look at old buildings and they're built with humans having a greater purpose than consumption and production in mind.
We were spiritual creatures where...
There were greater things.
There was all these fluted arches and gorgeous architecture that was just strictly to express beauty and divinity, which is now all taken away in favor of here.
This produces X amount of living space.
This gives X number of people a living space.
There's no extra room for that spiritual acknowledgement.
It's all dead, cyberpunk-grade buildings.
And ugly as hell.
Ugly as hell.
Yep, and even the new public buildings started looking just as ugly, like they used to be gorgeous.
Dude, old-time architecture was so wonderful, like Baroque and, you know, classical and all sorts of shit.
And then now we just have these stupid, empty buildings that are just, like, spacious.
Look at these vaulted ceilings.
It's like...
Okay, but it's all gray and the same.
Everything's thus and shittily built, too.
Yep, exactly.
See, and Andy Warhol kind of serves as the bridging between it, where he at least had production quality in his art.
It was just vapid BS.
That didn't mean anything.
And that was supposed to be the meaning, was there was no meaning to life, so just accept consumption, pleb.
Goddamn. So, you know, like, he doesn't have the direct CIA money, at least not that I've seen so far, but he's definitely influenced and totally in the club.
Well, Andy Warhol was friends with Jim Morrison, pretty good friends with Jim Morrison, and if you don't know, Jim Morrison's dad was a huge Navy intelligence officer.
I think he was the one who was responsible for the fake Gulf of Tonkin incident.
Yeah, a few people were calling Mornison out for that in the episode I was watching of Cosmic Peach actually saying essentially, you know, why would you call out your dad being the...
Author of the Vietnam War, if you're so damn anti-war, brother.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And yeah, that's a perfect point, dude.
Like, come on, Jim Morrison.
You're supposed to be this all lovey-dovey, hippie, peace and love motherfucker.
But dude, you come from a military family who murders people.
He was supposed to be the demigod avatar of the hippie movement.
And he was an intel plan.
Huge intel plan.
All those motherfuckers were all those famous Mamas and the Papas and fucking John Denver, Dusendorf, all those motherfuckers.
So in the mid-1970s, law enforcement in New York started to receive tips from very reliable underworld sources.
There are eight snuff films being circulated.
Viewers at private screenings, he said, pay up to $200 to witness the filmed killings.
He indicated the films begin with an actress and several actors engaging in a variety of sex acts.
Soon, however, a knife appears and the actress is stabbed to death and dismembered.
Alan Dershowitz, a renowned civil liberties advocate for New York's eastern establishment and child ****, wouldn't help put these rumors to rest when in 1977, he felt the need to defend the legality of privately screening snuff films.
And events, providing the victims featured in them had been murdered overseas.
So because you couldn't prosecute through them here, you'd have to extradite them?
It's all good.
That's so messed up.
Yeah. It doesn't exist because it didn't happen here, it happened overseas.
So yeah, it's not real.
It doesn't exist and also we need to legalize the screenings of it as long as they didn't die here.
Because it doesn't exist so much.
You know when that porn movie Deep Throat came out with John Holmes back in the late 70s or something?
Oh, yeah.
And they were doing screenings at colleges and all these people were just having to fit over it.
And police and FBI and all these people made a huge deal about it.
Alan Dershowitz is actually the one that defended that film, which is kind of interesting.
And then John Holmes turns out to be a fucking murderer himself.
And I think he died from HIV.
If I'm not mistaken.
It's just so weird, man.
When you just look at all this stuff and you connect the dots, like, everything's connected.
It doesn't matter how peripheral it is.
Like, it's still connected through people or events or publishments or whatever it is.
It's like, all these bad people that we always hear about, Alan Dershowitz's and James Aliphantus's, they're all connected, man.
All of them.
Well, and every so often, one of them will pretend to oppose the other.
I think I'll attend the same parties and do the same crap.
It's like I have bad news for you if you thought that Zelensky actually got repudiated at that theater production.
It's like the fact that there was an entire narrative ready to go of the European Union people being ready to say, we'll take you in, really just felt like...
We announced ahead of time, hey, we're getting out of this production.
You guys are going to take it over.
And then they're like, but we have to pretend that this is some spontaneous thing.
Yeah, give them all a fucking Golden Globe Award or whatever the fuck.
They all deserve one.
Jesus Christ.
So yeah, they're all the...
What's her name?
They're all Ann Coulter from the freaking Boondocks episode where she pretends that the Jesse Jackson analogs are enemy when they're both on camera screaming at each other.
And then they start making out as soon as they get in the elevator.
Yeah. What happened to Ann Coulter?
I haven't heard her name be brought up in forever.
I mean, she kind of went super crazy neocon and like...
She nuked what little credibility she managed to earn with the super hardcore, we need war for peace crowd.
Fuck, what is she?
To the point where they even kind of shed her and were like, she got Laura Lumard effectively where she proved to be too much of a bulldog for anybody to want to handle.
She probably has a seat in the Committee of 300 or whatever.
I mean, honestly, when you look at the article she wrote and stuff, it sure does sound, it really, like, all of it just reads like Pentagon wishful thinking.
Like, boy, it would sure be nice if it actually played out this way.
Right. And then we would own everything, and we would all win, and they would all love us, and there'd be no blowback, and happiness forever.
It's like the Care Bears' tri-neo-conservatism.
Is she the pink one?
Nah, I'm pretty sure she'd be Grumpy Bear.
Yeah, she would be Grumpy Bear.
She'd be the Lady Grumpy Bear.
Yeah. So in 1985, a prominent Manhattan art dealer named Andrew Crispo was accused of ordering the murder of a Norwegian fashion student named Egil Vesti.
That's a weird-ass name.
E-I-G-I-L.
Egil? Yeah.
The murder of Igle Vesti during a sadomasochist orgy held in a backroom of his art gallery, infamously known as the Death Mask Murder.
Again, just harkens back to Tony Podesta, John Podesta, the secret screenings of these private movies that don't exist and there's no evidence for.
They don't exist.
Except for all those people who got arrested for making them.
Yeah, see, again, this isn't like chemtrails where we've got to point to patents and illusions and government programs.
There's hard news behind this stuff.
Yeah, you just have to look at The Guardian.
The Guardian has a lot of articles about this shit.
I mean, this stuff's out there.
Free for you to look at.
So, Vesti's charred remains had been discovered in a smokehouse on the property of a United Nations official named John P. Legueros.
So strange, United Nations is now connected into this.
So, Vesti's naked body was found with a leather gimp mask slipped over his head, punctured by a bullet hole.
The UN official's son turned out to be a personal assistant of Andrew Crispo, named Bernard Legueros, who was charged with second-degree murder after a.22 caliber rifle, deemed to be the murder weapon, was discovered in Crispo's gallery.
Jesus Christ.
The 22-year-old Legueros stated Crispo had gotten him hooked on cocaine and used him to procure victims for S&M encounters.
He claimed Crispo had ordered him to execute Vispo during a cocaine-fueled sadomasochist orgy.
As Ligeros' attorney explained to the uninitiated at the time, The master was Andrew Crispo, and he had a series of slaves.
End quote.
Going on to point out, people seem to be losing sight of the fact that Vestie was wearing a bondage mask owned by Andrew Crispo, that he was wearing and also wearing handcuffs owned by Andrew Crispo and that he was whipped with
whips owned by Andrew Crispo.
Whoa. So, OK, I wonder if the mask and the whips have like Andrew Crispo's name on them.
This is the property of Andrew Crispo.
Yeah.
As a reluctant witness at Ligeros' trial, Crispo pleaded the Fifth over and over until a judge dismissed him.
A few years later, in 1988, a man named Mark Leslie came forward and accused Crispo of having him tortured at gunpoint during another cocaine-fueled sadomasochist orgy in the backroom of Crispo's gallery in 1984.
During courtroom testimony, quote, The man said Crispo and the others, who included now convicted Vesti killer Bernard Leggeros, 26, told him they had a need to kill people and demanded that he give them a name of someone they could murder in a snuff movie.
End quote.
Jeez. Yeah, and this is all in court records.
But hey, snuff films don't exist.
Bernard Leggeros agreed to testify against Crispo on the defendant's behalf, describing...
The man who has accused Crispo of the torture as crying and frightened on a September night in 1984.
When it's charged, he was handcuffed, whipped, and urinated on at the posh Eastside Art Gallery.
So we have urine, art gallery, Jackson Pollock, Andy Warhol.
The counterculture movement.
That's the art counterculture movement right there.
Piss and shit.
Yeah. The jury ultimately found Crispo innocent on account of the victim having consented to sadomasochist sex.
It's kind of funny how these – it's not funny at all, but very ironic how these rich motherfuckers who get tied up in this type of shit never seem to go to prison.
Yeah, I was about to say, like, you think you could do that?
Like, oh, I take the fifth.
Oh, well, if you're going to take the fifth one more time.
We're going to make you go away.
Oh my gosh.
I feel like – I think I'm going to take the fifth once more and they're like, that's it.
Out of my courtroom.
All your charges are dismissed.
I'm so sick of your crap.
I'm just going to drop all your charges.
Yeah, don't ever try this ever.
This level of obstructionism, it will not work for you.
I mean if it was you or I, they wouldn't even need the evidence.
They would just say, oh, we're not even going to have – we don't need a trial.
We don't need a trial.
I mean, like, if we go to trial, we might have to admit stuff.
Such a joke.
Yeah, I mean, they do, because...
So, yeah.
Like I said, with the Epstein shit, you bring...
You have one solid piece of evidence in the case, and the whole thing comes crumbling down, because people will start ratting.
Unless they get murdered before they can.
Yeah. And yet, in this case, it's like everybody was just kind of confident.
Like, this won't go anywhere.
Yeah. It was like there wasn't like a string of people dying in the background because everyone kind of knew it was just going to get shushed up.
Oh man, when we get further into this book, especially during the Mark Dutro type shit over in Belgium.
Belgium is just a hotbed of this stuff.
Anyway, like in that case specifically, the Mark Dutro case, boy, there were like 200 people connected to the case that ended up dying from suicides and weird accidents.
Yeah. 200!
How does that happen?
I told you the most depressing disease is catching the knowing.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
An investigative journalist named Mari Terry, whose research intersected with the Andrew Crispo case during his own investigation into an alleged snuff film produced by Roy Radin, involved one of the son of Sam murders.
Noted in his 1987 book, The Ultimate Evil, Author Anthony Hayden Guest, who published a major story about Crispo in New York Magazine, added another compelling lead when he told me Crispo had spoken about snuff films and a contact for them in Houston.
In 1994, Crispo's former assistant Bernard Lagueros alleged in a signed affidavit, quote, Mr. Crispo told me that Mr. Mamano was fencing stolen artwork, including sculptures for him.
Mr. Crispo also told me that Mr. Mamonos sold cocaine to Mr. Crispo and that Mr. Mamonos imported gay and straight snuff movies into the United States from Mexico.
I heard that a man from Texas named John produced the snuff movies in Mexico and that John was subsequently arrested and convicted for committing a
End quote.
Well... That's just more of that no evidence.
More of the evidence that no snuff movies exist.
Hey, you want me to take the next page?
Yeah, if you want to go start reading from there, yeah.
Ah, what the heck, I'll go for it.
It seemed there had been demand for snuff films from at least one of New York's high society gallery owners by the early 1980s.
And more tangible evidence of actual snuff film production had been found years earlier on the other side of the country.
In 1977, a Californian man named Fred Barry Douglas was arrested for soliciting a prostitute to help him torture, rape, and murder two other women on film in the Yucca Valley desert.
Douglas led to – On film.
Douglas led two female undercover officers posing as aspiring models to a spot in the desert where, quote, he kept saws, knives, chemicals, animal horns, and ropes, which police later said were props for filming.
Animal horns, you say?
It sounds very ceremonial.
Yeah, that sounds kind of like a ceremonial production again.
And yeah, again, I say production because this is a production house.
Yes. You've already got all the materials there.
This doesn't sound like your first rodeo.
Nope. All right.
Since no murder had been committed or snuff film found, the jury was deadlocked and Douglas escaped conviction.
I feel like there's more to it than that.
Oh, yeah.
A few years later, though, he would lure a pair of teenage girls into the desert for a porno shoot and murdered them there with an associate named Richard Hernandez.
A female acquaintance of the two men had testified.
Douglas asked her if she would assist him in killing young women in the desert while making sex films included bondage and sadism.
Douglas apparently believed having a woman present would make it easier for the victims to trust him.
True? It would.
What's her name?
Jislaine Maxwell?
Yeah, you know, like I was about to say, having the less intense good cop is very important in these manipulation situations.
Yeah, yeah.
Phillips testified that Douglas told her that his plan was to bury the bodies to eliminate any evidence and that they could make a lot of money selling the films to, quote, people in Las Vegas.
Phillips refused to participate in this game but did not go to the police because of her drug habit.
Her contact with Douglas ended when she was convicted of burglary and sentenced to jail.
The men claimed they hadn't filmed the murders and only the girls' bodies had been found, so who knows?
Who knows?
So they didn't claim they didn't...
I feel like they would have mentioned that they would have claimed not doing it.
So are we acknowledging that whoever this was acknowledged that they did the murder but not the film?
A journalist named Robert Anson reported on a growing trend of violent porn in 1977 detailing a Super 8 film called First Communion he'd personally viewed in a $1 peep.
To find the truth, you know?
He wanted nudie movies, but not this.
No, no, no, no.
The first reel shows five eight-year-old girls receiving their first communion, Perfect Innocence.
Suddenly a motorcycle gang breaks into the church.
Right then you know what is going to happen, but you can't stop from dropping in the second quarter.
Heh heh.
Wait. You have to keep paying for it?
Yeah, because you put in a quarter and it only plays like five minutes or whatever.
And they had to put in another quarter and five minutes.
The old peep shows back in the day, you know.
CD New York peep shows.
Clickbait. Yeah, basically.
The original clickbait.
And here there is a surprise, for instead of immediately commencing three of the girls, the gang pauses to beat the priest up with chains.
Then they crucify him with a cross above the altar.
Finally, by rail four, the sex begins.
You can actually see the little girls landing.
All of them are screaming, except the movie is silent and you can't hear their cries.
The Last Porno Show, Robert Jansen, New Times Magazine, June 24th, 1977.
Yeah, so, ladies and gentlemen, just go, you know, Yandex, The Last Porno Show, New York Times Magazine, June 24th, 1977, Robert Jansen, and you can read all about what he just talked about.
But continue.
Alright, well, it seems unlikely to have been real.
Anson interviewed a vice detective investigating at that time of what were suspected to be the very real snuff murders of young Mexican children smuggled into the USA by child pornographers in LA.
You don't have to suppose very long in Martin's business.
Once you imagine the worst, it invariably happens, and sure enough, it has already happened.
Green plastic garbage bags keep turning up in and around Los Angeles, 18 of them so far in the last 18 months.
Inside the bags are the dismembered, mutilated bodies of young boys, Mexicans mostly.
Some of the kids who Martin says are being smuggled across the border, sometimes in specially constructed compartments concealed in the floorboards and fenders of cars to infuse fresh, exotic blood in the kiddie porn industry.
And again, that's the last porno show.
And I just want to make a note here because whether or not the first communion was real or not, the footage still took place.
There are still these eight-year-old girls in this movie.
Now, whether or not they were killed or not, which it seems pretty obvious they were not in this movie, they still were used in the movie to play these parts.
That's still fucked up.
I mean, the question is whether they died or not.
Was it real?
It's still disgusting.
It's still disgusting.
These girls were used.
Real sex is happening in the movie, in the first communion movie.
And these children are right there.
So, it's still pretty fucked up.
Also, maybe don't point out that you had to put in that next quarter.
I know.
Well, it's like, you know, gore-type shit.
It's like, you can't help but look.
You know it's disgusting and horrible.
See, that's what I was hoping he was saying, was essentially like, oh, this is gonna be violent, like, and it messed up.
And you're like, go with that.
Okay, this vice detective then relayed quite a remarkable rumor.
A snuff film, one being screened at private parties in Hollywood, featuring a victim of a notorious serial killer named Dean Corll.
Who does not get talked enough about, like...
We all know John Wayne Gacy, 33 kills, 33 bodies in his basement, whatever.
Oh, Bundy.
Ted Bundy.
Charles Manson, Son of Sam.
Right. We have the big names.
The big three is John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, and Jeffrey Dahmer, right?
Everyone knows about them.
But Dean Corll, who people hardly know.
He had 28 kills.
So why hasn't he talked about more?
I mean, the name did not ring a bell at all.
Most people do not know who he is.
That's what I'm saying.
But, like, everyone knows fucking Bundy and Gacy.
I sure ain't heard his story.
We'll get into it eventually.
I was about to say I could tell you quite a bit about both of those two people's story without even really having to look into them much.
And we'll get into Dean Corll later on when we go through this series from this book.
There was one film reportedly making the circuit.
Supposedly it had been a big hit at an L.A. party a few weeks before.
Showing a boy actually being murdered.
He had been one of Dean Corll's kids down in Texas, the story went.
That had happened to a lot of Dean Corll's kids.
By the time they finished digging them up, the Houston police had come up with 27 of them.
Police strongly suspected that a number of young porn stars were among Corll's victims.
And that's another excerpt from the same book.
It's strange how they call them young porn stars.
These are like teenagers.
I was about to say, these are not actors by any conventional sense of the term.
These are kidnapped victims.
But again, 1977, the lexicon's quite different back then, I guess.
Yeah. I mean, it really goes to show you how far along they'd gotten in normalizing this stuff.
Oh, and here's something really interesting too about Dean Corll and John Wayne Gacy, by the way, is John Wayne Gacy had hired some of these kids who also would go and work for Dean Corll.
So Dean Corll and John Wayne Gacy apparently were connected to some sort of group.
So yeah, snuff films, do they exist?
Do they not exist?
Yes. Well, I mean, you can never know if something's really true until it's been officially denied.
And honestly, when you really look at how the government acts, you know that they recognize they've lost their credibility well past any point where they admitted it.
So realistically, when Snopes denies it, that is the government officially denying it.
Yeah. You know, unfortunately, I've seen a lot of gore in my life, and I've seen a number of snuff films.
They're real.
I can say 100% verified.
I've seen the shit.
I mean, that's the trick, is I was mentioning LiveLeak, and, you know, what was the other one?
The one that was even gnarlier.
Well, there's Best Gore in Canada.
The government arrested the owner, and then they shut down the site.
Yeah, because some of those snuff films found their way to those sites at some point.
Because realistically, as long as it was just terrorist videos and gore videos, there wasn't really anybody eager to stop them.
And so you had to ask yourself, what did they put out that actually got them shut down?
Because it wasn't people getting murdered.
Mm-hmm.
But suddenly, those sites, LiveLeak, and I cannot remember the other one that was even worse.
It was like Blacksite or something.
I'm not sure.
No, not Blacksite.
It had the word leak in it also, but it was gnarlier than LiveLeak and got shut down well before it, and I can't remember what the hell it was.
I'm not sure.
I don't know, man.
I'm familiar with Best Gore, the Young News Channel, YNC.
Rotten.com, and yeah, that sort of shit.
LiveLeak, before it was just strictly war stuff, and that's since been shut down, too, apparently.
Yeah, see, I might be thinking of LiveLeak before the thing, back when they had all the murder stuff on there.
Yeah, and I get the argument of, like, you put the stuff out there, people want to mimic it and recreate their own shit and just perpetuate it.
Like, I totally understand that.
It's... But you can still admit they exist.
They exist, for sure.
You just don't want to distribute the material.
It's like C7.
You can admit it exists while also saying, I don't really want to send you anything.
Because I don't want to look for it in the first place.
Because, yeah, it's another situation where you don't really want to find the evidence.
Because the evidence is itself a crime.
Yeah, and that's the fucking problem.
That's a loophole they can get behind, right?
The government's like, we can do all this shit, and if you go looking for it, well, you're committing a crime.
Even though we're the ones that made it and put it out there.
Well, and they'll hem up all the Satanism freaks and serial killers that are doing the films.
They just won't hem up the buyers of the films.
Like, you'll notice, like, you know, everybody gets nailed for the murder.
They don't have any problem finding that dude.
The problem they always have is finding the buyer.
That's when suddenly things get sticky and you can plead the fifth a billion times and they'll punish you by dismissing your charges.
So I'm just reading into more of some stuff here about snuff films.
I'm trying to find some information that's in the news that's like, yeah, this stuff exists.
Kind of hard to find.
Oh, I know.
I can think of like...
A few different shows that covered it when I was younger.
I couldn't tell you exactly what they were, but I remember hearing the concept way back when just watching news and stuff.
It's been mentioned for sure.
Oh yeah.
It's super easy to find all the stuff such as this.
FBI expert Ken Lanning maintains that after an investigation of more than 20 years, they can never find a real snuff film.
You can find a plethora of information to say that the FBI and all these other agencies say that stuff films don't exist.
It sounds like they're just trying to control.
Well, I mean, it's really easy to not find something you don't want to really look for.
That's a great fucking point.
That's a great point.
You're going to look for the body of your victim.
Well, maybe we won't find the body of your victim.
Maybe we'll just find a hunk of turd that I buried in the ground.
I'm very cynical about investigating themselves kind of deals in the first place.
100%. You have to have independent people doing this.
You need to have investigative journalists from...
Us, you know, our type of people, the lower echelon, the plebs who aren't in the big club, like, those are the people that need to do these investigations because they're independent.
They don't have fucking skin in the game.
Well, yeah, it's a catch-22 because it's like then your reach gets nuked from orbit into oblivion.
So that's how they gatekeep.
Because they can't just shut you up entirely because that...
It creates smoke and fire, which then leads other people to it.
So the quiet way to do it is just to make it so that you never really see it.
Everything gets very heavily censored, and that's all done through all that AI stuff that they pretend that doesn't exist still, because they're still getting the public used to adjusting to the fact that they've already been manipulating them for almost 20 years with it.
Yeah, dude.
Andrew Vax.
A lawyer and author of many bestsellers.
He says, quote, one has to be completely naive to think that they do not exist.
It's not films.
We know that the Shah of Iran has tapes of the Savik torturing people to death.
And the Savik are the Iranian secret police.
So there are tapes, verified tapes, of the government torturing people to death.
We also know that I.D. Amon records numerous executions, so he must be like a president or something over there back in the day.
Yeah, I think he's part of the security forces, if I remember right.
That makes sense.
So yeah, I mean, they all record their shit.
Well, and again, this could be recorded with a checkmark on a piece of paper, subject to torture until death.
They record it because it's for consumption.
See, that's the thing.
That's the part where I don't necessarily agree with the terrorism ones being exclusively for fear and stuff.
Some of them really do seem to be celebratory and they want to show it off.
Yeah, a lot of them do.
Less so they want to appeal to sick people like that.
An interesting thing here.
So a few years ago, Frank Hennenlotter, an American director of hardcore movies, offered a reward of $1 million to anyone who showed him a snuff film, but nobody showed up.
What are you talking about, dude?
You can easily just go type in real snuff film.
Google it.
I'm sure you'll find a real snuff film right through Google, I'm sure.
I know, and if you can't, you can yandex it and it'll show up.
The layers of censorship aren't even really all that great on it.
They really aren't.
Because it mostly relies on mocking it as an absurd concept in the first place.
It's one of those things that's so out there that even though there's a lot of documented evidence, people are disinclined to believe it.
Because it's just so much nicer in a world where it's not true.
The idealism.
Everyone wants this idyllic fucking society, but it's just not going to happen.
Well, you know, I mean, how else do you think somebody who makes billions of dollars on government contracts and wants to put a chip in your head is going to fight the deep state?
Like, how else do you believe something like that without having some level of altruistic idealism where you have to believe people will act in a way that they pretty much never do?
So retarded.
Info, let's see.
So serial killers, Charles...
I don't even know how to say his last name.
Nigel. Charles Ng, I think.
Like I mentioned earlier, these guys were torturing women and filming it all and selling the tapes.
But during the judicial process against Johnny Zinn for the kidnapping and death of Linda Daniels, who was 20 years old at the time in the city of New Mexico, one of his accomplices confessed that the whole idea was to carry out a snuff film.
It just never happened.
And gee, you know, did he have a buyer?
They never get very curious about these parts, do they?
Like, you know, like, why would he get the idea that he could sell this?
Where did that come from?
And there's Yeren Svore, a former Israeli military man, published a book about the possible existence of these films, Gods of Death.
Among other information, Vore confirms the presence of videos that recorded the atrocities committed by soldiers in the former Yugoslavia.
And holy shit, I've seen some of those beheading videos.
No bueno.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Like, they have all these soldiers, these, like, captured soldiers laying on the ground on their stomachs with their hands handcuffed behind their back or whatever.
And the Yugoslavia, or whoever was...
In power over these other soldiers.
They're all just, like, sitting there pretty much mocking the soldiers.
Like, oh, we're gonna kill you all.
And then they cut one dude's throat in front of all the other ones and they just have to sit there and, like, watch this happen until they go down the line and do it to each of them.
One of them jumps up because he's like, fuck that, and he tries to run.
And they let him run for a while and then they just shoot him.
God, dude.
I mean, I kind of feel like he got the best end right there.
I mean, I...
Oh, dude.
Like, would you just sit there and let them do awful stuff for you, or would you just run so they gotta take you out?
I would run for it.
I wouldn't just sit there and just make it easy for them.
Hell no.
Because the trick is, it's chasing you down and stuff.
That's not fun.
That's part of why they were annoyed by it.
Yeah. And didn't do anything at first, because they wanted to still turn it into a game.
Because, you know, we're dealing with sociopaths who...
Play with human lives like they're playing a game of Jax.
For real.
And it would just suck to be in that situation because it's like, do you try to make a run for it knowing that if you get caught they might just make the torture that much worse for you?
You know what I mean?
I'd say by that point you're doomed either way.
You might as well go for it.
God, it's so shitty, dude.
I feel so bad for these people, man.
Well, let's see.
In England, the Times in 1990 published an investigation claiming that the police had discovered evidence that Mexican immigrants were being killed to make snuff films.
Yeah. So aside from all this evidence, there's definitely none.
I'm just going to keep saying that as we produce more and more evidence that there definitely isn't any.
And that's why it's definitely true that these don't exist because there's no evidence we're finding.
Yeah. I'm going to ask Yandex.
Evidence of real snuff films.
Horrifying snuff films.
Four real snuff movies that can be seen online.
Wow, that didn't take very long, did it?
No. Article written in 2017.
Let's see here.
Yeah, so they list the Luca Magnata one that I mentioned.
And Luca Magnata, he was a porn star in Canada, but he was such a fucking narcissist.
Let's see.
One lunatic, one ice pick.
It shows him stabbing his victim, which is like his ex-boyfriend, with an ice pick.
Like, a lot.
Yeah, I think you know what that video is an homage to.
Oh yeah.
Two girls, one cup?
Oh, yes.
Yeah. I'm like, I recognize the format.
Yeah. Okay, yeah, and then they also list the niproptivist maniacs, the three Russian kids who were killing people.
Three guys, one hammer is what that one was called.
Oh, fuck, dude.
So aside from all of these and all of the contemporary evidence and all the ancient evidence...
And, you know, like historical counts of executions being celebrations, we have no evidence.
No evidence whatsoever.
Like the 2014 video, six-minute-long video of Felix Gomez Garcia and his uncle, Barnabas Gomez Castro, who worked for the Sinaloa cartel.
They were caught and interrogated by men who were wearing military clothing, and they were recording this.
And the first one was, I think, the uncle.
And they take a chainsaw.
So the uncle and nephew are just sitting there, handcuffs next to a wall, just sitting there.
And then a guy comes up with a chainsaw.
And you can just see the captured men's faces.
They're just like, oh, fuck.
They just close their eyes and kind of just lean back and just get ready for it.
And they literally just chainsaw this guy's head off.
And then right after that guy's...
Dead. Another guy comes over with a knife and cuts the nephew's head off with a knife.
It's terrible.
It sucks that, man, back in the day, in my early 20s, I used to watch this shit not for pleasure.
Not for fucking pleasure.
It was the fact that this stuff exists and it's so gnarly.
Terrible. It's just terrible.
I literally couldn't watch that anymore, dude.
Yeah, it sickens the soul, man.
That's why it's like, I could find him.
I'm not Logan.
I'm good.
No. I'm good.
I know all this shit is real.
I know it is.
And people sit here like Snopes Parrot and say it doesn't.
And then there's, oh, the Anatoly Slivko.
This was a crazy one, dude.
This is a perfect example of a Snuff film.
So this guy, I think he was like a...
Like a Boy Scout leader.
I think in Russia or something like that.
And he would take these boys and he convinced them to let him hang them.
Like with the noose around their neck.
And he would pull them off their feet so they're just like dangling.
And he would film all of this stuff.
And he really liked boots and feet.
And he would collect boots and feet.
And he filmed all this shit.
He filmed it all.
Snuff film.
Anatoly Slivko.
Live leak.
There we go.
Live leak.
Yeah, there it is.
That was the sort of thing that bled out that got them shut down when war carnage wasn't quite enough.
GordCulture.com, let's see what they say.
Snuff films, convictions, and the truth behind the myth.
Yeah, well, I mean, again, no evidence comes from the fact that they never seem to find any buyers for these things, and I am just incredibly cynical about that.
Because it seems like that's what Snopes' claim is really leaning on at this point, because it sure isn't that they haven't found people making them.
The only thing they have never definitively proved is that someone paid for one.
And that seems by design.
Right. Yeah.
Guinea pig films.
Oh yeah, Japanese.
So that was a movie.
It was like a fake snuff movie.
Japanese guinea pig.
And Charlie Sheen, actually.
In 1991, good old actor Charlie Sheen, he had a copy of this film and he thought it was a legitimate snuff movie.
And he turned it over to the FBI.
And then the FBI was like, no, this is actually just from this movie, Flower of Flesh and Blood from 1985.
And Charlie Sheen is a fucking weirdo, too.
I mean, he was...
Evan Cramrox?
Oh, what was it?
Dragon blood?
I got tiger's blood.
Tiger's blood.
Seven gram rocks.
And I've got the Adonis DNA.
Oh my god.
Greatest interviewer.
Corey Feldman fingered him for raping Corey Hames.
Because Corey Hames is actually, he's the one that came out and said Charlie Sheen raped him at a movie shoot in between two trailers.
And he said that Charlie Sheen grabbed a bottle of Crisco or whatever, took a handful of Crisco and just shoved it on Corey.
Hame's ass and just raped him right there.
For a second there, I thought you were going to say he fingered him for fingering him.
Basically, yeah.
Basically. So anyway, I think we'll leave it there.
Oh yeah, this is one of them topics that's so controversial it can't be true even though it definitely is.
The last thing we'll do here is I just wanted to play this.
We'll finish this off with this audio from Leonard Lake and Charles Ng on snuff films, okay?
Now, these are two serial killers that were both in prison together, had an equal contempt for women, and then when they both got out at different times, they reconnected and, yeah, kidnapped a bunch of women, tortured them to death on video.
So, let's listen to this.
Good evening.
It's a Sunday in October.
27th, 23rd, something like that.
Very close to my 38th birthday.
And I'm starting this tape without script or without any real organization of what I want to say.
But I do feel I need to explain.
An off-the-shelf sex partner.
I want to be able to be a woman whenever and however I want.
And when I'm tired or not interested, I simply want to put her away, lock her up in a little room, put her up my sight out of my life.
Slave. There's no way around it.
Primarily a sexual slave, but nonetheless...
So dissociated.
If I can construct a holding cell, a place where I can put such a woman, a facility that is so stark, so empty, so cold, so quiet, so totally removed from the work.
If I can quickly condition a young woman to cooperate with me fully.
If you go along with this, cooperate with this.
Okay, so that audio was just him, Leonard Lake, sitting in a chair, and Charles Ng was filming him talk about all of that.
This next part right here is they have one of their female victims held captive sitting on a chair, and they're filming this, and this is what Leonard Lake says.
We'll be as nice as we can to you within the limits of keeping you prisoner.
If you don't go along with this, we'll probably take you in bed, tie you down.
Rape you, shoot you, and bury you.
Sorry, lady.
Time's up.
Make your choice.
Something you wanted to hear?
While you're here, we'll keep you dizzy.
You'll wash first.
You'll clean first.
You'll cook first.
You'll cook first.
That's your choice in a nutshell.
It's not much of a choice.
Unless you've got damage.
Jesus, dude.
How sweet.
If it ever arises again, if there's any circumstance whatsoever that leads me to think that you're even attempting to make noise.
It's immaterial as to whether I hear you or anyone else hears you.
You will be whipped very severely.
And tell me you understand.
I understand.
I'm having a little war within myself between what I want to do and what we might call the decent thing to do.
And for the moment the decent thing to do is winning itself.
Rest. Yes.
I mean, how convinced are you that this is a willing participant as you're sitting here with them bound?
Probably not.
Why are you doing this?
Because we hate you.
Your baby is going to be taken away.
She's like, why are you doing this?
Leonard Lake's like, because we hate you.
I mean, he's recording this like it's like funny home videos with his girlfriend.
Because we hate you.
Your baby is going to be taken away.
But there's a first bowel behind their back.
All the time.
You're not taking my baby.
They got one to help.
That's my baby!
Her baby is sound asleep, like a rock.
If you don't like it, would you like me to put it in writing?
It's done.
Just take it, whatever we tell you.
Oh my god, it's so unreal, man.
I mean, for real, it's like the casual tone of it is straight up like home video style.
You're away.
Don't cut me for all.
Nothing is yours now.
You get totally out.
It's so hard.
It's sick.
Sucker. I'm going to pass out at least in the night or something.
Well, you can pass out, but we won't whip you up.
Brenda, I have a lot of animosity against you, and I would just as soon start you out with a nice, firm whipping right now to make you believe how serious we are.
So this is her doing some cosplay for him, basically.
Yeah, so this is before she even realizes what's happening.
It's a different victim, too.
I see.
So, in other words, this is somebody still thinking that this is just some kind of weird kink thing.
Yep. BD freak.
I don't know who put this video together.
It's on YouTube.
Earth Confidential.
Quite disjointed.
It is.
I was hoping it would have played the actual audio.
Stockholm. I've seen some 14, 16 year old that I can be.
I was like watching them do
Okay, who was the other serial killer caught with...
Remember, he had like a boxcar and inside was like a big chair, like a dentist chair.
Oh, I don't remember.
And the boxcar torture?
What the fuck was it?
Murder with a truck made for torture.
Oh yeah, David Parker Ray.
That's who the fucking guy was I was trying to think of.
David Parker Ray.
He, just like Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, he would also do the same thing.
He had like a truck made for a torture chamber.
Toy Box Killer was his name.
This audio is fucked up.
Alright, here is David Parker Ray.
This is the audio that I was talking about earlier that he would...
for his victims.
You're obviously here against your will.
Totally helpless.
Don't know where you're at.
Don't know what's going to happen to you.
You're very scared or very pissed off.
I'm sure that you've already tried to get your wrists and ankles loose.
No, you can't.
Now you're just waiting to see what's going to happen next.
You probably think you're going to be...
You're right about that.
That was just a partial, but we don't need to hear the rest of it, at least for the time being.
Got a pretty good idea of where it went from there.
Yeah, it's long.
I think it's like 20 minutes.
Oh yeah, we don't need the whole thing.
Wow. I mean, the really horrifying thing is it's like he says it with this totally bland cadence that's just like the other people.
It's like a...
It's like, here's your campus orientation.
Here's your first day at college.
That level of just formality.
This is a rote, memorized thing that I just repeat over and over again.
It's like a customer service line, effectively.
Yeah, and David Parker Ray got caught because one of his victims escaped.
And his wife was part of it, too.
And it's crazy, because the woman escaped, and she flagged police, and Ray and his wife were driving away to escape the area.
And the sheriff caught up with them and arrested them both.
And I think he might still be in jail or in prison.
I'm not sure.
I don't know what happened to his wife.
With Leonard Lake and Charles Ng, Leonard Lake, when they got caught...
He took a cyanide pill and killed himself, and Charles Ng is still in prison.
At least it's not a cyanide pill of people getting off easy.
Right. So yeah, I mean, snuff films, do they exist, Cricket?
I think we can conclusively say that yes, they do.
They do.
They're definitely real.
It's maddening that people think that it's not real.
Just goes to show you, you always distrust the government, even when it's being spoken, even when it's speaking through a third-party independent fact-checker.
Fuck you, Snopes.
Fuck you.
Alright, so ladies and gentlemen, that's gonna be it for today's show.
It was kind of, this was not planned.
We did not plan this show.
We had something else planned, but it fell through, and we just had to come up with something really quick, and that's, we decided, whatever.
We'll do this really quick.
Yay, spontaneity.
Spontaneity. So that was, Snuff Film was the first chapter in Eye of the Chicken Hawk, and I think as an ongoing series, we'll go through the entire book, and it's, I don't know, something like 300 pages.
We'll just go through it chapter by chapter over time, and I think some of it will be posted on Patreon, and some of it we'll throw out for free, so if you guys want an extra little...
Morsels of fucked up shit.
You can just go to our Patreon and check that shit out.
But it's a series in the making.
This is the first one we're putting out now.
Yeah. Rough stuff.
Extremely. Any final thoughts?
Yeah. Don't trust independent fact checkers.
Especially Snopes.
I don't know who the fuck listens to Snopes anymore.
At first, they were like the first fact checker, right?
Super democratic, too.
I think it was like the whole Pink Kong 2016 email Wikipedia or WikiLeaks type shit.
I think that's when Snopes...
Really got off the ground.
That's when they created the most default category.
It's true, but we're very unhappy about this.
Sweep it under the rug.
And of course, when I say fact-checkers now, I include things like, you ask Grok, you're going to ask Grok, it's going to give you a bunch of BS.
You ask any IEI, it's going to give you a bunch of BS.
And that shows you how in French the people who do this stuff are in our government and in our tech industry.
Yeah, it's so funny.
If you use Grok and you know that Grok's lying, you just go back and say, look, you're lying about this part.
Here's the fact.
And it'll be like, oh, yeah, you're right.
You're right.
I'm sorry.
That was my mistake.
And it'll correct itself.
Yeah, like, you're right.
You weren't supposed to find that.
How'd you find that?
Yeah, yeah.
One can see.
Unreal. All right, ladies and gentlemen.
You know, all these shows can't be gold stars.
You know, some of them are whatever, but...
I don't know, man.
My brain hurts.
I know.
It's all a very depressing subject to cover, so...
It is.
It wears on you.
It really does.
So our hearts go out to all the victims and the ongoing victims and the future victims, past victims, man.
It's just...
Fuck. This world is a dark...
And gnarly place.
The people in it, the people in power in it are very, very evil people orchestrating some of the worst crimes imaginable.
And they, you know, give you Snopes to say that it's not real.
Yeah. And then they give you your neighbor to get mad at you because you found out it's not real.
