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Seriously. We need to get some fucking money rolling in this thing.
Swear to God.
Swear to God.
Cricket checking in, bro.
Checking in.
How are you doing?
It's been a week.
It's been a week.
How are you doing?
How's the last week been?
I got to projectile vomit for the first time in a year or two.
Fuck, you went full ragging?
I emptied my whole contents of my stomach.
It was really tragic, too, because it's a good meal.
Oh, that's the worst.
But it, like, tasted off to no one else but me.
Like, I should have known that meant my stomach was fucked up.
Well, it's over now, right?
You passed whatever that was.
Yeah, it just sucks.
It's such a waste of food.
I can't stand wasting the food, especially delicious food.
Yeah. What was it, tacos?
It's like pizza from the pizza joint around here.
They like the best.
We call them the crack pizza.
Because it's so good?
Because the joke was there had to be crack in it for us to be as addicted to it as we were.
It's funny because we get pizza every once in a while, and I don't want to say the name of the company, but where do we go?
Seriously, they're all fucking methed out fucking people.
Like, full-on tweakers making the pizza.
Which, you know, fine.
If you make my pizza and it's delicious, I have no problem with you smoking meth.
Just don't get the meth in the pizza.
Well, maybe, like, I don't know, maybe, like, they infuse their energy, their crackhead energy, into the pizza.
Yeah, they're like, all right, everybody, come on!
They're doing some weird little fucking ritual about the pizza.
I was about to say, so there's some literal crack pizza there.
Yeah. Hopefully not like butt crack pizza.
Well, you know, you be polite and you tip him decently, especially if you go there all the time.
Yeah. Well, it's like, it's crazy because they get the order wrong pretty much every time.
Expert level.
There's that.
How do you mess up something that involves putting toppings on something?
Meth. Meth bro.
Meth. It's like the opposite of mad skills.
Meth skills.
Meth skills.
You got the meth skills.
It's like I can't type on my keyboard.
I got too much meth skills.
Ladies and gentlemen, we got an episode for you today.
It's basically a part two from last week's episode on Snuff Films.
You guys liked the last one.
So we got a couple new stories here before we dive into the meat and potatoes of the story for today.
And, well, before we get into that, I just wanted to, like, talk about these analytics here, dude.
Alright, I know we talked about briefly before we started recording here, but man.
Analytics. Man, our analytics are pretty sweet.
Started from the bottom, and now we're here.
Yes. Raise the analytics.
Analytics. Dude, the bottom of the list here, Israel.
Less than 1% of our listeners are in Israel.
And I wonder, are there, like we were saying, are those all in one building?
Yeah. A government building?
Mossad listening post-14.
Right now, like, oh shit.
Oh shit, they're talking.
They're talking about us.
That would be fucked up.
They're like, oh shit.
Oh, we lost them.
They didn't come back and watch after that for some reason.
Ukraine's up there.
I mean, hopefully the part where they're nightclubbing and not the part where they're being shelled constantly.
For real.
But if you're watching us while we're being shelled, well, damn, that's some dedication.
I would just like to say thank you.
We've got listeners in Romania.
That's the Tate brothers.
Yep. The Tate brothers listening.
Now they secretly left Florida again.
Yeah. Finland, Russia, man.
Yeah, we got at least like 60 countries here.
But we're in all 50 states.
It looks like 51 states.
I don't know what this...
There's one that's not listed.
There's no title for it, but there are 51. All 50 states are there, and then there's an extra.
Would that be like a territory or D.C.?
Or is that NORAD?
NORAD's listening to us.
It's probably NORAD.
Because all of them have the name of the state, but then there's just one that's nameless.
That actually does sound like sus.
It's very sus.
But we're in all 50 states.
So wait, it knows it's in the US, but it's stateless?
Is it like a VPN?
I don't know.
I clicked on it, so there's not enough data to tell us, but it's listed there.
No name.
I don't know.
Sketchballs. Maybe it's ghosts listening through the ether.
I have no idea.
So I will come up with the most interesting theory.
Definitely internet ghosts.
Ghosts? Ghosts in the machine?
What happens when they abandon mailer demons?
They become ghosts of the internet.
All 50 states.
Guess what the number one state is?
What is it?
Most listeners.
Utah. Oh, bro.
That's the second one.
Hi there.
California. Shout out to our California listeners.
You guys dominate our listeners, our fans here.
That's awesome.
I mean, they got a populace that dwarfs entire countries.
That's true.
That is true.
Yeah, that's the thing.
You think of them as states, but then...
Like, some of them are, like, states with, like, a few hundred thousand people, and then some of them have, like, well, population of, like, half a euro.
Yeah. That's pretty cool, man.
We got all 50 states, 51 states, it looks like.
And then it's Texas at number three.
Yeah, the 51st state.
Hello, undisclosed location.
Who are you?
Who are you?
Hopefully you can't tell where we are.
Creepy-ass, invisible, frickin'...
No, that's weird.
Oh, man.
North Brabant.
Utrecht. Amsterdam.
North Holland.
South Holland.
Cleveland. You're like, that's just a drone outside your window.
It's also watching.
It's not actually watching the stream.
It's just watching you directly.
It's watching us.
I'm stoked we got listeners in Amsterdam.
A lot of listeners in Amsterdam.
Nice. Or Netherlands, I should say.
I always wanted to go.
It's fun, man.
I went there back in the day for the 18th Cannabis Cup, bro.
It was epic.
That was back when I wanted to go.
It was back when they were the pioneers that legalized weed.
I remember reading about the Cannabis Cup and being so jealous.
Back then, I was like, man, all you get here for some kind weed is fucking arrested.
Pretty much.
Pretty much, man.
No, Amsterdam's a wonderful place.
Yeah, I fucking love that place.
Oh, it's beautiful.
I heard it was like a big old party town, pretty much.
Oh, yeah, it's pretty wild.
Nightlife is pretty wild.
We were at this because I just went with my friend.
I was going to go alone, and then my friend's mom was like, oh, you should go with him.
And I was like, ah, all right, you can come with, I guess.
And then, yeah, we ended up going there and smoked too much weed.
I smoked too much weed, man.
See, I always wanted to go to, what was it, that little island?
Ibiza. Oh, Ibiza, yeah.
The Rave Island.
That would be so amazing.
Yeah, I mean, I loved, we went to Barcelona and all through Belgium.
I think Barcelona was probably the most beautiful of everywhere we went.
We drank this whole bottle of, what's that stuff made with wormwood?
Absinthe. Absinthe, yeah, yeah.
We drank, we bought this big old fat fucking bottle of absinthe.
And drink the whole bastard.
We couldn't even mix it with anything.
We just drank it straight out of the bottle.
And, wow.
We got fucking wasted.
Dude, it's true.
It makes you trip.
Dude, Johnny's good for you.
Grant's enlightenment.
Definitely does.
Definitely does.
I thought I had my skateboard and I was talking to these people at this animal cruelty event thing.
They were shutting down and I was talking to these people.
They pulled out this hash joint.
I was like, I'll smoke a joint with you guys.
And we smoked that.
And I was like, I gotta go find my friend.
And I turn around to go jump on my skateboard.
You know how you run and jump?
You're holding your skateboard and you run and jump on it and just push away.
I thought I had my skateboard.
I didn't.
So I turn around like, later guys.
And I went to jump on my skateboard and I didn't even have my skateboard, dude.
I face planted.
It was horrible.
It was horrible.
Oh, man.
Yeah. Had a big old cherry on my face.
They were all laughing at me.
It's just like, oh, that was embarrassing.
And then I couldn't find my friend.
So he was trying to find me at the same time.
And we both got totally separated.
And we're both like running around fucking Barcelona trying to find each other.
That was a shit show.
That was a shit show.
That's awesome.
I've never gotten to drink Absinthe.
It always sounded cool, but...
Yeah, you can get it in the United States, but it's not the same.
It's just not the same.
A lot of times it'll be like, it'll have the Wyrmwood, but then they'll remove the Thujone content above a certain point or completely nerf it, so then you're just effectively drinking really gross booze.
Yeah. It's like, you know, there's a reason why you wanted the other ingredient, and they're just like, oh, you're drinking it for the taste, right?
It's like, oh, yeah.
Totally. That's why you needed to slather it in sugar, because it was just so delicious.
If I remember, the shit we had, it tasted like black licorice or something like that.
Nice. That's not bad then.
I was about to say, one thing I heard about, or one thing I'd heard almost universally was it's pretty rough.
That shit we had was delicious.
The wormwood itself is pretty hardcore tasting.
I'm sure if it's like wormwood extract, yeah, probably just disgusting.
But yeah, the next morning, like, because we finally found each other, the next morning we had to get up because we were still at this hostel, and we had to get out by like 9 in the morning or something.
We were totally hungover, obviously, and we're walking across this big-ass eight-lane street, so all this traffic stopped for us, and we're walking, my friend's in front of me, and he just, like you, projectile vomits all over the fucking place, dude, and I just started laughing my ass off,
and the traffic, the people were just laughing their asses off.
It was good.
Good times.
Well, you know, if you're dealing with booze or psychedelics, let alone a drink that's kind of a semi-mixture of both, you're probably, you're going to maybe deal with some pukiness.
Oh, yeah.
And we went to this park, and when we were getting drunk on that stuff, we went to this park, and we didn't realize it, but it's like a heroin park.
Like, people were just shooting up left and right.
We didn't notice it at first.
We're sitting on a bench.
We're just, like, smoking this little joint, drinking some of this absinthe.
And we're looking around us, and we see all these people on other benches, and they're all hunched over, doing stuff.
You see lighters flick, and you see just weird stuff happening.
And then I took a better look, and I'm like, yo, they're shooting up!
Holy fuck, they're all shooting up!
It was awesome.
It reminds me of Eugene's Municipal Building.
Like right out in front of it.
There's just like all these people smoking crack and cheating up and stuff.
This dude like walked around and just like walked up to me.
Hey, have you seen a bag of meth anywhere?
And I'm like, what the fuck?
Oh, you mean this one?
Yeah, I'm thinking to myself like, yeah.
You're fucked, dude.
Nobody's gonna be honest with you.
Hell no.
That thing's gone.
Just accept it.
You might as well accept it now.
It's gone.
Yeah, dude.
And talking about expecting it, there's a $10 million reward for a fugitive, an Olympic snowboarder who's now a fugitive.
$10 million reward.
What's he a fugitive for?
Well, the FBI is raising the stakes to track down a former Canadian Olympic snowboarder.
Who investigators say is behind a massive transnational drug ring.
Wow. So, drug ring, huh?
Fugitive Ryan James Wedding, now placed on the FBI Most Wanted list as authorities announced a $10 million reward to find the pro-snowboarder believed to be hiding in Mexico.
Well, dang.
That's a hell of a story.
He's probably pretty safe down there because I guarantee you the drug ring probably stems out of Mexico.
Well, I mean, if...
I was about to say, he's probably surrounded by clientele and customers.
Yeah, dude.
That's about as safe as you could be.
Pretty safe down there.
We'll see, though.
What's his name?
Ryan James Wedding, pro Olympic snowboarder.
Turn yourself in, bro.
Every time I hear that, I just think that's the game crossover that thankfully everyone's breathing a sigh of relief they didn't make right there.
Yeah, good thing Ryan James is not in any...
Ryan James Pro Snowboarder.
Oh god, could you imagine if he had a game and this happened?
Yeah, that'd be amazing.
They'd have to go back in there and have a re-release where it's like you're also a drug kingpin at the same time.
See, that's what they probably do now.
I remember back when Nintendo had a...
There was a stink with Mike Tyson and some allegations or something.
Oh, yeah.
I don't think it was specifically the one that locked him up.
It was something before that, like some scandal, and they wanted to distance themselves, and suddenly he became Mr. Dream.
Isn't that funny?
How he's having sex with teenagers, and people love the guy.
The dude went to prison for it, and people love Mike Tyson.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
I mean, for God's sake, yes.
Popular-ass game that it took some major problems to get him to remove him from.
But you know what?
Those are NES cards.
He's never going to disappear from them old cards.
He's there forever.
I should get a copy of that.
Because that was for, what, regular Nintendo or something?
NES? Yeah, old school NES.
Oh, Iron Mike was an absolute beast in that game.
Like, knocking him out, like, it's a whole process of learning the fight over time.
Because first you have to just deal with not getting knocked the F out within the first, like, minute and a half of super death punches.
And then from there you have to actually learn, as you slowly tire him over the rounds, how to knock him down.
I actually watched a video of someone speedrunning it who knocked him out in the first round.
Three knockdowns.
It was freaking nuts.
Yeah, it was...
Dude was just absolutely insane.
There's like frame perfect times to punch him and stuff where he'll take like triple damage and shit.
It's a crazy like scientific formula.
What do you think about the, they found out that Gene Hackman and his wife Betsy Arakawa died of natural causes, but they also say it was from hantavirus, from rat turds.
So which one is it?
Natural causes or rat turds?
I don't know.
I also heard that Gene was just wandering around with Alzheimer's for a week after his wife was dead.
The story gets more and more sordid as time goes on.
I know, dude.
And you have Randy Quaid.
Shout out to Randy Quaid out there.
But he's the one that's coming out and being like, they were murdered!
But you have to remember, Gene Hackman was 95 years old.
And his wife probably not that much younger than him.
So I mean, either one of them dying is not in and of itself cause for suspicion.
Like, uh-oh.
You know, they were in their prime.
It's like, no, they were in their ideal time to be embraced by the Lord and all.
So yeah, not exactly shocking.
Well, I don't know if it's rat turds or natural causes.
They're fucking old as fuck, dude.
So, I don't know.
But they're saying, like, the wife, her body was, like, basically mummified.
So, like you said, everything that comes out just gets weirder and weirder.
Alright, our first actual news story takes us to Mexico.
I'm sure a bunch of you have heard about this one already.
Gruesome scenes as nine missing students are found dismembered on the side of Major Highway near a bag of hands.
After disappearing on vacation.
So yeah, that's sketchy.
Nine students who mysteriously vanished while on vacation in southern Mexico last month were found dismembered.
Their remains were discovered inside of a trunk of a deserted car, about 175 miles from Mexico City.
Five of the nine students' remains were found underneath a blood-soaked tarp.
The other four were in the trunk.
Why does it say?
So it like, it contradicts itself in the same article.
The nine students were found inside of the trunk.
And then it's like, five of the nine students were found underneath the blood-soaked tarp and four were in the trunk.
It's like, which one is it, dude?
Well, dang, the story literally can't be true as reported.
It's not so.
Their hands were all hacked off.
Five were men, four were women, all 19 to 30 years old.
They were reported missing on the 27th of February and they were found...
On March 2nd.
No suspects have been named.
Yeah, I feel like it's going to be kind of hard to figure out who the heck did that.
Especially when, man, because, like, what?
Over 30,000 murders were committed in 2023.
Yeah, I was about to say, that region is not exactly the best place to, you know, have this happen to you and have an investigation go somewhere in the first dang place.
Anybody knowing anything, I'd probably be too scared to talk.
Oh yeah, dude.
I would be.
Cartel has control of all the governments down there in all these different areas, territories.
Especially in that area, I think.
Where is this?
The Oaxaca area?
Yeah, dude.
Lots of cartel there.
Yeah, I'm good with not vacationing in that direction.
No, I'm good on that.
The second story takes us to the UK.
Which has unfortunately become the land of Islam thanks to terrible political stooges.
So, police sergeant who filmed himself masturbating in a bush near a children's play park is now living in a hotel after being sent away for his own safety and spared a jail.
What? It's getting almost like animal farm.
Some animals are more equal than others-esque levels of parody at this point.
For real.
Police sergeant sent away for his own safety.
So, let's see.
Well, I mean, he might be harmed by the fact that he's going to commit a bunch of crimes.
Yeah, so this guy, a police sergeant who was caught naked in a park, in park bushes near a children's playground and had old photos of himself masturbating in the same spot.
Well, that's just definitely not a story that's a tale as old as time or anything.
Yeah. So they're saying he wasn't seen by anyone.
That's why he wasn't charged with more serious offenses.
But let's listen to this.
He was caught when colleagues trawled through his phone after he was arrested last February for loitering in Woodland with no clothes on.
The incriminating photos showed him nude and masturbating in the same spot in Vail Drive Park close to his home in Chatham, Kent, some five months previously.
He was sacked by the Kent police.
Sacked. They use that word.
He was sacked by the Kent police.
Who had hoped to secure a charge of either indecent exposure or outraging public decency.
They didn't get that, though.
However, it was revealed this week that the CPS ruled the offense could not be prosecuted as there was no evidence Sergeant Incy had been seen by anyone and so did not constitute criminality.
And like I said, this is interesting because he was seen by at least one person who called this in.
So instead of jail and prison, he was basically given a fine of 1,000 pounds.
Alright? 1,000 pounds.
Wow. So the court...
So harsh.
I mean, he'll definitely never do that repeatedly forever.
He'll never do it again.
The court heard Sergeant Incy had been seen naked in close proximity to a children's play park by dog walkers, causing them distress.
So he was definitely seen.
So why are the police saying he wasn't seen by anyone?
Therefore... We can't charge of anything more serious here.
There's more of that no evidence.
No evidence, sweep it under the rug.
See, I'm telling you, no evidence is like the most meaningless phrase in the universe now.
It's like, there's no evidence this happened, I mean, other than the recording and the confession and, you know, the fact that they obviously did it.
The witnesses literally took pictures of this guy and then the cops say there's no, no one saw him.
What are you talking about?
No one saw him.
Your camera saw him.
But technically no human being saw him with their eyeballs that we can prove as long as we close our eyes and see no evil, hear no evil.
It's just pretty much straight up Orwell.
They're trying to pressure the public is what it is.
It's pretty obviously not about law.
No, laws for thee, not for me.
After being spotted, Sergeant Incy quickly dressed into keep-fit clothing, whatever the hell that is, and started jogging around the park.
But officers soon arrived and he was led away in handcuffs.
A subsequent search of his mobile phone revealed images of previous similar incidents, including one of them crawling into the same wooded area in September of 2023.
This dude is, like, naked and crawling into these woods around this kid's park.
And, I mean, he plays off this whole thing where he, like, sneaks out and starts jogging after putting clothes on.
So that says to me he's developed a system and has probably been caught before, or at least almost was.
Yeah, he's probably been caught multiple times, and they're finally like, all right, we've got to at least put an article out now because we've been caught so many times.
Don't worry.
It's just a slap on the wrist, though.
We need to put an article out so we can go bust in the door somebody who complains about it.
Yeah, the person who called it in, they're probably arrested.
How dare you report his noble peepee?
Oh, this is great.
So after receiving the advice of the CPS, and that's not Child Protective Services, that's the police department.
Yeah, Crown Protective Services.
Yep. Camp police representatives in court agreed to this outcome, and Sergeant Incy, this is great, was made to attend a thinking skills online course.
Wow. Yeah.
Like, what's the course about?
How to not get caught next time?
Thinking skills.
Better thinking skills.
What do you do here?
It's like a multiple choice, dude.
It's like A, B, C, or D. It's like, okay, so A, be friendly.
Go introduce yourself.
B, like, you know.
Don't be friendly.
Don't be friendly.
Don't talk to anyone.
C, drip naked.
Go in the wooded area and masturbate.
No! Do not select that option.
D, all the above.
A, B. It's like, for God's sake, A or B. They're just, like, sitting there, like, guiding his head towards A. Like, okay, we circle A. We don't go to the woods and masturbate.
He's like, we don't go to the woods?
We don't go to the woods and masturbate around Kids Park?
Okay. So, anyways.
Give this man a promotion.
So anyways, I got a date in the park.
So can we wrap this up?
Yeah, right.
It's my usual time.
I gotta get there.
So along with the Thinking Skills online course that he's made to attend, he also was told to stay away from the Bale Drive Park area.
Poor guy, he can't go back to the park.
Oh my gosh, he was told not to go somewhere and he had to take a course?
Man, like, practically living under Lord Draco, my god.
Oh, for real.
How'd he ever endure this?
He avoided being placed on the sex offenders register as well, which is ridiculous because, like, if you and I did this, we would instantly be placed on that register.
Dude, if you were calling out peeing in the friggin' lake.
Wooded area.
Or even in the damn woods, for God's sake.
You'd probably find some BS reason to throw it on you.
To hell with cranking the yank.
Oh, cranking the yank.
The father of two admitted pleasuring himself in public.
So even in the midst of this, but in an email sent ahead of the disciplinary hearing, he attempted to mitigate his behavior by saying that he was, quote, Hidden from the public view at the time.
End quote.
That's actually worse.
You're trying to be stealthy.
I'm like, there's a reason why you're in this kids' park and not in a different specific area, for God's sake, man.
It's unreal.
It's like they want to train the kids to accept and see this as normal so that they're not horrified.
Well, I mean, the British government has a great track record of this sort of thing.
Yeah, they're pretty much, you know, the royal nonsense all.
Yeah, damn nonsense.
A spokesman for the CPS said it makes all charging decisions based on the evidence it is presented with.
So, yeah, having an eyewitness who took photos of the act and also the images that he had on his phone and his own admissions.
Yeah, that does not constitute any evidence, according to British law.
Surprised they didn't prosecute him for, like, having nude photos of someone without their permission or something.
Yeah, dude, this is just ridiculous.
So, yeah, as it is, Mr. Incy is now seeking a new public park to spend his time in.
Yeah, I'm sure, like, everybody's just lining up.
Like, we'll let you in.
Come to this park.
We'll accept you here.
It's probably, like, one park.
Yeah, I wouldn't accept an invitation from people.
Oh, yeah, you can come to our park.
Yeah, there's this one park where all of these guys who get caught, like, doing the same thing.
It's like, well, this park's okay with it.
We can go here.
And they're all trying to expose themselves to each other.
They're just like, wow.
They're like, this really ruins it for me.
He's like, oh, hey, man, this is my bush.
Oh, man, I was here before you.
Go over in that bush.
It's like they have to put up a little take-a-number thing in front of a wooded area.
Wait in line.
Oh, fuck.
They're up for God's sake.
Six in the morning, and there's already a line.
Yeah, goddammit.
I guess I'll come back tomorrow.
Well, let's go to this third story here.
This one brings us to beautiful New Jersey.
New Jersey.
80s rock guitarist and wife arrested for sickening crimes after cops traced a young girl to their New Jersey home.
And I don't know if this is in the United States.
There's got to be a New Jersey in Britain.
Well, I mean, there'd be a Jersey in Britain, I would presume.
The original Jersey.
Right. Yeah, because this comes out of UK.
This is UK news, so it's got to be...
This is not United States.
Anyway. Not one of those guys with chisels and hammers.
Yeah, I don't really recognize the name, but I feel like he might have taken some of his song lyrics, literally.
Yeah, Carnivore and Crumbsuckers.
I mean, that sounds like some straight-up death metal group right there.
It's definitely thrash punk.
I mean, that sounds like, you know, yeah, like death metal, like Cannibal Corpse kind of stuff.
They have some gnarly lyrics, so...
Not surprised somebody like that might necessarily be into something dark.
I mean, there's heavy metal and there's death metal.
There's two different degrees, but it's not like heavy metal is exactly like choir music.
No, no.
Yeah, so they were arrested for assaulting a minor.
And so the Bergen County Prosecutor's Office explained that police started investigating the couple on February 23rd.
When officers with the New York Police Department contacted their counterparts in Fort Lee about a child who had been reported missing the day before.
Police now say Mark met the girl, who was between the ages of 13 and 16, on the social media app Turn Up, which connects people who share similar music tastes and arrange to meet with her.
Once the girl was at his home, Mark allegedly plied her with marijuana and sexually assaulted her.
Plied her with marijuana.
How do you ply someone with marijuana?
That's usually alcohol or something that sedates you really bad.
Was it some kind of edible or it got you overly stoned?
Because I feel like you can't really force smoke somebody out.
No, you smoke this whole blunt.
It's like, ah, I can't breathe.
At some point, they're just going to stop.
Yeah, that's retarded.
At some point over the course of the weekend, the girl was able to take Mark's phone and begin contacting her mother.
So it sounds like this dude literally kidnapped her.
Was holding her hostage, basically.
Maybe plied with marijuana is really a generous interpretation of it.
Officers were then able to ping the phone and located the teenager at the home.
Fort Lee police have since accused Jennifer of being at the home when the girl was sexually assaulted and being aware of what was happening, saying that she was aware of the child's presence along with another child under the age of 13.
Wow, what a mess.
Wow, what a mess.
So Mark was previously convicted in New York City in 2017 of rape of a child.
Holy fuck.
Rape of a child under 15 years old.
This dude was convicted in 2017 of rape of a child under 15 years old.
And went on to become an upstanding citizen, I see.
Well, he was given 10 years probation.
10 years probation for raping a child under the age of 15. Wow.
What the fuck?
Dude. That's a hell of a sweetheart deal.
Oi, I'm a rockstar!
You can't arrest me!
I'm a rockstar!
Yeah, I get the sense that these incidents are not being traded with the level of seriousness that they deserve.
Are they just downplaying everything?
Like, is this the way society is going?
It doesn't seem like it, because people get arrested for the stupidest shit.
Nah, that's what people call the anarcho-tyranny part.
It isn't even necessarily about being rich.
It's about having the right opinions or being the right person.
Because a rock star or something, even if the dude was financially ruined, he's still not going to get the same responsibilities that other people do and the same accountability.
Yeah, I mean, it's just like Pete Townshend.
People are going to cut breaks for him.
I mean, hell, even if there is no...
Interior corruption.
People are going to fanboy over some star's ass and try to get him off.
That's what I'm saying.
Try to get him off.
That's what I'm saying.
Like Mike Tyson.
I mean, if they have to lock him up, maybe they'll literally try to get him off.
Pete Townsend, he was arrested in 2004 or something like that for buying a bunch of child porn because he went online and used his credit card.
But he was like, no, I'm just doing research.
I'm just doing research.
And they're like, okay, I guess he was just doing research.
It's okay.
It's Pete Townsend.
He wouldn't do such a thing.
And then, you know, again, you and me, we're in jail immediately.
Yeah, I was about to say, like, you'd be in jail pending, like, them making sure you didn't just get inadvertently exposed or some shit and make sure that you actually paid for something in a commission.
Like, you wouldn't even get the, yeah, you wouldn't even get the, like, you know.
The whole, like, courtesy of waiting your happy butt at home to see if you're getting arrested for it or not.
Exactly. And he, Pete Townsend, literally used his credit card to get it.
So it's like, there's the evidence.
Well, I'm just doing research.
Just doing research.
I mean, that's ballsy.
I mean, for God's sake.
Like, usually people just get caught, you know, handing over cash for such things.
Yeah. So, Mark.
He now faces four counts of second-degree sexual assault, second-degree luring.
Second-degree luring?
I didn't know that was a crime.
Yeah, luring usually with the intent to commit another crime, probably.
I guess.
Let's see.
One, two...
Well, otherwise, just convincing somebody to go eat lunch with you or some shit could be...
That's luring.
Luring, yeah.
He lured me to go eat lunch.
He said he'd pay for it.
He plied me with lunch.
And then he dropped me off at home.
It was horrible.
Oh, woe me.
So yeah, what else did he get?
Second degree luring, second degree endangering the welfare of a child, and two counts of third degree endangering the welfare of a child.
And Jennifer, meanwhile, is facing charges of second and third degree endangering the welfare of a child.
Yeah, that's some leniency still.
Oh yeah, 100%.
And they'll plead down too, so that's just what they're being charged with.
It doesn't mean that's what they're going to get convicted of.
They'll plead out.
They'll get something like, I don't know, theft of under $200 or something.
Something that has no relation to this at all.
Yeah, just give them like jaywalking or something.
Just jaywalking.
They're like, we're going to drop everything, we're going to add this jaywalking charge, but we will make this stick.
Oh man, that's so crazy.
You're going to pay $90, don't you?
Just you wait.
Yeah, just you wait, mister.
You're going to pay dearly for this.
That's it for the news.
So now we can Velcro our chinstraps and head right into this smuck and mire.
So this is part two of basically making the case of the existence of snuff films.
Okay. We actually got through those pretty quick, I'd say.
Not too shabby.
Fuck. We're doing good.
We're doing good.
So yeah, I just had to do part two on here because part one was such...
A hit with everyone.
People love snuff films, apparently.
They like snuff films and haunted houses.
So that's really interesting.
We need to do more haunted houses episodes because people love haunted houses.
And snuff films.
Well, I mean, you know, like, true crime stuff's so popular.
Snuff films are just the unfortunate, like, extreme, like, level of voyeurism that some people might go to.
So it's like...
Because everybody's fascinated by the dark side of humanity.
Everyone wants to learn about it.
And realistically, we can't actually just look away and be healthy because that's a part of us as a species.
We're not going to get rid of it.
So the inevitable thing is we live in a society where people pay for money and so then some people are particularly evil.
And we'll pay for this.
Yeah, man.
Snow films.
So, let's see here.
Because, you know, everybody's fascinated by the aftermath.
Well, some people are sick enough to be fascinated by the process and want to do it.
Yeah, the lead-up.
They don't settle for just reading up on it.
So, I just want to read from this AP News article that comes to us from way back in 1985, the year that the United Nations...
Designated as the International Youth Year.
How paradoxical.
How paradoxical.
It's also the year that on March 3rd, Women Against Pornography, or WAP, presented Huggies Diapers with the infamous Pig Award, saying that their television ads had, quote, crossed the line between eye-catching and porn,
end quote.
How could a Huggies Diapers commercial be eye-catching?
An eye-catching diaper commercial.
This comes from Women Against Pornography.
They're saying the Huggies commercials are eye-catching.
That almost sounds like a parody article.
What anti-porn group would name itself WAP?
Yeah, WAP.
Like, dude, do you guys know what you're saying right now?
This is a real story.
This is a real story.
Yeah, this is a real story.
There are numerous articles.
This is hilarious.
Yeah, man.
Most unfortunate acronym ever.
They chose it.
Whop! Whap, whap, whap.
It's like...
The real question is, did the group come first and then the song ruined it?
Or did the song come first and then the group set themselves up not realizing the song was a thing?
1985. Okay, so yeah, it didn't mean the same thing for a good long time.
So WAP took issue with the particular shot in a particular commercial that showed a mother's underwear when she picked up her baby.
What? Isn't that ridiculous?
And me, I'm like, what's the nature of the angle and everything?
I feel like that's kind of being a little bit much there.
Who started WAP?
Who is this?
Yeah, are we talking some kind of weird anime perversion angle or something?
Or are we just talking a normal, you caught a frame and you're bothered by it, and why the hell are you looking that closely?
Because I'm like, I feel like there's a certain level where it's just like, no, that's just a bit of undies sticking out of some clothes.
Yeah. A mother's underwear.
They wear things.
Kids wear things.
And adult women wear things as well.
Like, I wonder, hey, women against pornography, do you guys wear underwear?
Do you ladies wear underwear?
Do you guys bend over to pick things up?
Do you ever get, like, the, you know, plumbers crack showing?
Come on, you fucking idiots.
Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying.
Like, does it ever, like, bunch out from, like, the top of you where your pants are at?
Is that considered it?
Because I'm like, that's a bit beyond for me.
Idiots. Fucking idiots.
I always hated those commercials, though, man.
Whenever I see one, they're just so weird because they do close-ups of the children's diapers.
You know what I mean?
They're zoomed up on the fucking private areas.
Infants. So at the same time, I could understand the concern and probably why the scrutiny started in the first place is because they're like, yeah, some weirdo might be into this.
But not for the baby diapers, for the women's underwear that we're showing.
But they're offended by the women's underwear.
And I'm just like, yeah, again, it's like if their undies are slightly sticking out, I'm like, yeah, are we talking like, is this a pants ponzu shot here?
Like, no.
Wap, you need to get your shit together.
Come on.
I don't think I really need to look at the image that they were offended by to know it was probably pretty freaking tame.
Yeah, I guarantee it was tame, especially compared to what we see on TV today, because that was back in 1985.
Oh, yeah.
Them getting upset about anything back then is like a night and day difference.
I mean, think about the difference in our rating system between back then and that.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, man.
Yeah, the rating system now, it's like...
Low-cut shirt?
You're pushing that PG-13 there.
Yeah. PG-13.
All right, well, let's just get into this next article.
Children say three others died in snuff film.
Okay, now we're going to get into the meat and potatoes here.
So this comes from January 18th, 1985, AP News.
A 10-year-old girl whose father is accused of leading a child molestation ring told police she saw three children killed as her father and friends took pictures for a snuff film.
The girl said that three other children were told to take part and mutilate the bodies after her father had hit the three children after they were also drugged.
The reports also describe a variety of sexual acts the children were made to perform and said the youngsters were threatened with stabbings and being thrown to the sharks if they revealed what was happening to them.
Six of the nine children interviewed spoke of sexual abuse at the hands of numerous adults.
Deputy District Attorney Rick Lukowicz said a homicide investigation would begin in the killing of children during the filming of photography for some type of movie.
Arthur Dill, a 33-year-old former restaurant manager and four associates, were charged with a total of 169 counts of felony child molestation.
Others in custody are Roland Cuevas, Varel Baker and Alan Arbuckle, and John Holman, who is Dill's roommate.
Let's see.
The defendants were being held on a $500,000 bond.
So, I mean, that's a pretty good amount.
For back then, they're not getting out.
I mean, yeah, I'd say they definitely earned it.
Dear God.
The investigators' reports included statements by Sheriff's Detective Sergeant Robert Humphrey that Dill's oldest daughter, the 10-year-old, told him that in addition to being molested, the children were forced to participate in the ritual killing of three other small children and that a video or movie camera was utilized to film the killings.
And like we said last week, But snuff films, they don't exist.
They don't exist?
What are we talking about here?
I mean, they didn't exist to the point where being asked the question, I already knew that there was a ritual almost always involved.
So yeah, that's how non-existent they are.
I already had somewhat of an idea of what the concept was in my head.
Yeah. How does that get there?
Dill said that at the time, he believed the charges were a plot by his estranged wife and mother-in-law to get even with him after their separation.
And now, granted, that does happen a lot, like more than we want
to admit, I don't think that's the situation in this case.
Yeah, I think that sounds more like a cover story.
Yeah. Along the lines of, we don't want to admit why we really did it.
Because
The parts of it involving the ritual aren't actually necessary to get back at somebody because they're not actually going to know that stuff was even done for the most part.
Yeah. You had all this prep.
All this prep to get these ritual items.
You got candles here.
You got weird spell books.
You got all this other stuff.
You have a fucking pentagram carved in the floor.
You have this here.
But I was just trying to get back.
And you just happened to have a Necronomicon, did you?
Just had one on you.
Holy shit.
The reports by Humphrey and other detectives said Dill's three daughters, now 10, 8, and 6, all described sexual incidents involving their father and his friends.
A fourth child was two at the time of the alleged incidents.
Yeah. Humphrey said Dill's children told him that in addition to molesting them, Their father invited his friends to his home and charged them between $55 and $85 each to molest them while Dil took photos.
Ugh, alright.
He said children were told that, quote, if they told what had been happening, they would be thrown to real sharks and eaten like Barbie dolls.
End quote.
We're talking about some psychological terror for a kid on top of all of this.
Jeez. Yeah, and I didn't put it in here, but the kids were saying that the father actually, in person, was like, look at these Barbies.
You see these Barbie dolls?
And then he was like, if you tell the cops what happened, and then he drops the Barbie dolls into a fish tank they had, he's like, I'll throw you to the sharks.
So he was psychologically fucking with them like this.
Wow. Yeah.
It wasn't just words.
He acted it out and showed them with Barbies and fish tanks what would happen.
And the reports also quote a psychiatrist's evaluations of sexual abuse severe with consistent physical findings about the children and reports of a neighbor who said she heard children's screams at the Dill home.
Not good.
Not good.
The suspects, four of them, workers at a restaurant in suburban Sacramento, engaged in a molestation cult.
That included Satanism, witchcraft, and mock wedding ceremonies for the youngsters, investigators said.
Sounds like Mormonism.
Yeah, it's like a...
Is it the FLDS involved with this shit?
There was always rumors around the whole, like, LDS headquarters down in Salt Lake City having a lot of Satanism associated with it.
Oh, big time.
I remember reading a book way back in the day called, like, They Own You or something like that.
That was actually describing some survivor accounts that were pretty gnarly of the inner sanctums.
Dude, I mean, yeah, I put nothing past that group of people.
Have you seen that church in Salt Lake City?
That is likely the one that I'm referencing here.
It's such a weird fucking place.
Investigative reports quote the grandmother of some of the victims as saying they described the slain victims as two young girls about seven or eight years old and a boy about six.
Lukowitz said there were nine alleged molestation victims, six of whom are now in therapy, two in a locked psychiatric facility.
Fuck those kids up.
Jesus. I mean, that's pretty freaking traumatizing.
I'd say so, man.
Investigative reports also add that Baker would also play the role of a devil in the rape movies made with the children.
So, he went full Chris Pontius.
I don't think Chris Pontius is raping children.
I'm saying he dressed as the devil in Jackass.
That's all I'm saying.
I was like, dear God, I feel like there was more of those scenes than I heard.
All the stuff they didn't add in the fucking TV show.
Behind the scenes.
Yeah. No, shout out to Chris Pontius.
Man, we love you.
You're crazy.
You're funny.
You're ridiculous.
No relation to this story at all.
No relation to this story.
This is, as far as anyone knows, just some crazy Satanists here.
So that's just really interesting.
This guy's full like Mormon.
He's, you know, I don't know if he's Mormon.
I don't want to say definitively because I don't see anything specifying the religion beyond the Satanists.
Just regular devil worshippers, not the ones that are using another religion as a curtain.
Because a lot of times I see these occultist types, they'll try to infiltrate other faiths and beliefs and whatnot and twist them over time.
Like the Catholic Church.
Oh yeah.
I mean, the fact that there's a human earthly leader is, I mean, isn't that already kind of heretical?
Because the whole reason Jesus came is because humans aren't supposed to be on par with God.
So you needed a representative that was effectively God as well.
Yikes. And then they just decided, actually, no.
No, we don't need that.
We don't need that.
Be humble and exercise lots of cheapness.
I get this big gold hat.
Yeah, pass it on that collection plate.
Pass three of them around.
Go ahead.
Get more in there.
Come on, get more plates in there.
Fishes? Dagon?
Who's that?
This is just the Pope hat.
This is just the Pope hat with the words little triangle spirals on it.
All right, this next story here, let's see.
British link to snuff video, September 2000, okay?
This comes from The Guardian.
Booyah. Let's see.
Britain is a key link in the biggest ever international investigation into the production and supply of pedophile snuff movies in which children are murdered on film.
The key suspect in the inquiry, a Russian who was arrested last week in Moscow for distribution...
Of thousands of sadistic child porn videos and pictures was traced following the seizure of his products from British pedophiles.
And we actually mentioned this guy last week, but we didn't get into a lot about it, but this is like more in-depth about this guy.
So Dmitry Vladimirovich Kuznetsov, who we mentioned last week, was a 30-year-old former car mechanic in Moscow and was identified after British customs and police traced the origin of violent...
Child porn videos found in the UK back to Russia.
Thus demonstrating that they used to prosecute people for this.
Or at least make it look like they were in the process of doing it.
I mean, hey, I gotta say, if this guy ever, like, went on the run, like, if he went to the States, there'd be no way in hell that APB would ever be pronounceable.
No. They'd be like, be on the lookout for a...
Dimitri. His name's Dimitri.
Yeah, you know what?
Just forget about it.
Just forget about it.
Don't even worry about it.
Forget I even said anything.
Look for a Russian guy.
Yeah. I think he's wearing one of those big fur hats.
I don't know.
I could be wrong.
So last week, Italian police seized 3,000 of Kuznetsov's videos on their way to clients in Italy, sparking an international hunt for pedophiles who have bought his products.
The Italian investigators say that the material includes footage of children dying.
Huh. That's so brutal.
That's so awful.
British authorities yesterday confirmed that scores of Kuznetsov's videos produced in his small flat in Moscow's run-down Vikino district have been found in the UK.
Around a dozen British men have already been arrested and charged with offenses alleged to be connected to the Russian tapes.
A second Russian child porn ring, which allegedly had a British distributor, was broken up earlier this year.
And remember this is 2001 or 2000?
2000. The investigation into the importing of violent Russian child porn which led to the identification and subsequent imprisonment of Kuznetsov started about 15 months ago after customs seized material coming into the country.
Quote, We have seen some very, very nasty stuff involving sadistic abuse of young children, very young children, but actual deaths on film takes it a whole step further.
That is very worrying.
End quote.
Said one senior customs officer this weekend.
British pedophiles were paying between 50 and 100 pounds for Kuznetsov's tapes.
How much would that be?
That would have been like, let's say like 100 to 200 US dollars.
This would be conservative.
And, you know, 20 years ago, we'll say like maybe double that again.
Yeah, around there, yeah.
Nowhere near enough for something this awful.
My god, like, it's even cheap that's so disgusting, and the reason it's cheap is because it's mass-produced.
It makes me sick.
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
Well, I was about to say, like, it just makes it all the worse that it's cheap.
It's, like, all this disgusting crap, and it's not even valuable because it's a freaking, like, such a commonly traded commodity.
Yeah, that's nuts.
And some of these, one of the officers said that a lot of these videos were being made to order with specific requests of what the buyers wanted to see.
And further fees were paid for access to a website that features pictures of extremely violent abuse.
That's probably the website that Pete Townsend accessed.
Oh, Pete.
For research!
I swear to God!
For research!
For research!
Everybody does research with their trousers by the knees.
I have more and more ankles.
I was conducting some field research.
In the bushes outside of this child park.
God. See, that's why he added those stories in there, because everything kind of blends together.
Guys creeping and crawling in child parks, or parks to see children anyway, masturbating with their pants around their ankles.
All for research.
So many researchers.
So many unwitting subjects.
They don't even know.
They don't even know.
So, although two men were arrested with Kuznetsov, only one of three remained behind bars.
That's so nuts, dude.
It sounds like Kuznetsov himself was released, dude.
Oh my god, it's like the Beast of Belgium, Mark Dutro.
Well, again, as we were talking about...
Talking about earlier with, you know, like, why would you be, why were Tates operating in Romania?
It's because you're going to be going to do these sort of things in the places where the penalties are the lowest and you're the most likely to eventually get out if you do get hemmed up.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, and it's really funny that the Tates are now, like, you know, hanging out with what's-his-fuck-face of UFC.
So they're wanted for sex trafficking type of shit.
They're under investigation.
They've been under multiple other investigations of the same shit.
And then they leave Romania, come to the United States, come to Florida, hang out with Trump.
They hang out with Dana White.
They hang out with all these other fucking celebrities.
The whole thing was really odd.
Is the investigation bogus, or are you guys just letting them do it?
Letting them wander around anyway?
It's like, what's your angle here?
Well, it seems like they don't care.
I mean, we still haven't seen anything about the Epstein shit, because that whole thing is just a fucking distraction.
Yeah. You know?
Pam Bondi, what's going on?
Where are these files?
Yeah, exactly.
Well, when I heard that they were investigating because they came to...
Florida or whatever, I thought, wow, are they actually going to get a charge from this?
Because over in Romania, I was always very cynical.
I'm like, dude, they just got to pass money around.
They're never going to get nothing.
There's no way they'll ever get hammed up.
I saw somewhere that people...
We have these hardcore Trumpies who are all about protecting Trump at all costs, no matter what he does.
Some people are like, well, it sounds like Trump has invited the Tate brothers over here.
As a kind of like, not a honey trap, but like a trap, essentially.
And to like, hey, come out.
Come over here to the United States.
You're safe here.
You can go to the UFC.
We'll hang out.
We'll have drinks.
We'll have a great time.
And then, you know, they're trying to make it sound like he's going to arrest them.
Pow! It's open investigation.
Yeah. Which, no.
That's not going to happen.
Which, granted, I don't like the concept of pre-crime investigations at all.
No. That's why my attitude was essentially, you know, if you got something on them that they did...
Go ahead and charge him.
Don't do this song and dance where you're going to talk about it for months on end.
I don't know.
It felt like a whole media blitz, honestly.
I feel like all of this shit is like, what's up with Diddy?
Yeah, I know.
He's totally going to get charges this time.
I'm like, just like Diddy.
Just like Diddy.
And who was the other one?
Was it not Conway?
Married to Beyonce, what's his name?
John Rule or something?
Freaking hand, I don't remember it.
I know, that's how much I care about all those people.
Fucking idiots, all of them.
Anyway, like, because they dropped the charges, because that 13-year-old girl was like, yeah, both Diddy and this Beats guy, what the hell is his name?
Anyway, she was saying that, like, both of them raped her, and then all this flack happens, and then all of a sudden, charges were dropped.
The girl decided not to continue with the charges.
Hmm. Very sus.
I know.
Well, they got their news story and probably paid off on the back end.
Who the fuck is this?
Jay-Z, goddammit.
Jay-Z, that's it.
I'm like...
I cannot remember.
Ja Rule.
What's funny is so many people have gotten hemmed up in this whole scandal.
I wasn't 100% sure even who you were referring to because I thought...
You know, like, which person actually did get implicated in something?
Because everybody's gotten named.
Everybody. Not everybody in the rap game, at least.
And they're all probably guilty.
I mean, come on.
Let's face the facts here.
Because they all hang out with the Marina Abramovich.
And you gotta be into some hardcore Satanist shit to get to the fucking top.
Like Beyonce.
Well, yeah, you know, you want into the club.
You know?
You gotta participate in some dark partying, I'm afraid.
Oh, yeah.
Dark, dark, dark party.
This ain't no plur party.
No. No peace, love, unity, respect, no cuddle puddles here.
Oh, they're cuddle puddles.
Oh, there's a little different kind of puddles.
A little more forceful sort of cuddling.
Oh, that's horrible.
Dmitry Ivanov was sentenced to 11 years for actually participating in the abuse that was being filmed.
The others were released under an amnesty aimed at clearing Russia's overcrowded prisons.
Because, you know, don't keep those guys in prison.
Let those guys out.
Keep the jaywalkers in there.
Be like, what did he do?
I criticized Putin.
I'll keep him in there forever, under Jill.
It's like, what did he do?
Oh, he's a kid pornographer.
Whatever. Let him out.
Oh, well, I mean...
Oh, that's a...
It's like, oh, he participated and recorded?
Well, damn, you know, that's...
Let him out twice.
That's pretty bad.
We better release him quick.
Let him out twice as fast as he would have if he was just doing one or the other.
Imagine him, like, feigning like a fence.
Like, well, what a disgusting person.
Get him out of my sight.
Let him go.
Yeah. That's so crazy, man.
Who was president in 85?
It wasn't Putin.
It was Gorbachev, I believe.
That would have been Gorbachev, right?
Oh, yeah.
That would have been Gorbachev back then.
Mikhail Gorbachev.
Yeah. Because Reagan and him are like big old butt buddies.
Big time butt buddies.
Oh, let's see.
When officers from the Moscow Criminal Investigation Department raided Kuznetsov's flat, they found two boys in a makeshift studio.
They seized a huge quantity of films and other pornographic material, as well as lists of clients in Italy, Germany, America, and Britain.
So, not only did he have all this stuff, he had two boys in a fucking makeshift studio.
In action.
And they're like, oh, we didn't see that.
We didn't see those two boys.
So I'm curious.
I wonder if they went after any of the people that they could get confirmed purchases from.
I think that's who they were after.
They weren't really after the people making it.
They were after the people buying it.
Let's see.
The Russian videos, which had been ordered over the internet, were intercepted when they came into Italy by post, repackaged, and then delivered by undercover police officers.
They cost between £304,000 or about $500 to $6,000, depending on what type of film was ordered.
Yikes. Covert film of young children naked or undressing was known as a snipe video, but the most appalling category was codenamed Necrospedo, in which children were raped and tortured until they died.
That's a genre.
A genre all its own.
Man, it is believed that Kuznetsov and its associates had been doing this for more than two years, and they are believed to have recruited around 100 boys aged between 9 and 15 to be filmed.
I really feel like recruited is not the word.
No. That I would use to describe people forced into sex slavery.
Yeah, also, it's definitely not the right lexicon, not the right word to be using here.
Yeah, I'm thinking, like, lured.
Lured, yeah.
Forest or something.
But, like, they were saying that, because these guys doing this shit, they would get some of these boys, just like Dean Corll and John Wayne Gacy, they would get these boys under their wings, and they would have these boys go out and find other victims to bring back.
So that's kind of what I think what they mean by recruited in this sense.
So they kind of, so baited and switched in other words.
Yeah, still recruited is not a good word.
Yeah, it makes you feel like, you know, they like gave him like a whole rah-rah, like, you know.
Right, that's what I'm saying.
Talk and try to talk him into it.
Like, it's going to be glamorous.
And I'm like, yeah, I don't.
Like these boys were out there, like they're out there walking around trying to find a group like this to be part of.
Yeah, like, I don't think you're getting gassed up like a military recruiter, like, trying to tell you, you know, you could fly jets.
Yeah. Let's see.
Kuznetsov had given up his job in 1998 to devote himself to the lucrative pornography industry.
A self-taught computer expert, he was in the process of upgrading his equipment to allow him to email videos directly to clients as police were then raiding him.
So, in other words, he was about to make himself a lot harder to catch.
Using emails instead of actual physical documents.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, nowadays, with all the fusion centers and whatnot, they could probably catch him pretty easily and then proceed to ignore it anyways.
But back then, he probably would have been pretty much impossible to catch at that point.
Yeah. Early on, yeah.
It'd be like, almost no way.
So today, basically every mainstream media outlet will flat out deny that snuff films exist, as we all know.
But let's take a look at various reports which are accurate, including Interpol.
Yeah, well, you know, Biden was sharp as a tack.
Yeah, sharp as a fucking tack.
So this comes from Wikipedia, and I fucking hate Wikipedia, but this little section is actually verifiable and had all the sources there and everything.
So it's called Talk Snuff Film.
In 2003, Interpol assistant director Hamish McCulloch stated, quote, There is no doubt that such films exist, many of which are available via the internet, end quote.
Seems pretty definitive.
There comes some snuff movies, fact or fiction.
Um, let's, this article, so in the USA, let's see, in America, the FBI went undercover to a meeting of people invited to watch a snuff movie.
With a view to buying a copy and the fee to attend the showing alone was $10,000.
Dang. That comes from Reuters.
Reuters! Did they bust them right away to get their money back?
We just want the fee back, please.
Yeah. That's USA, that's from Reuters.
And then in Scotland, this one comes from Scottish Daily Record.
Detectives who found Simon Harris hanged at his home on Sunday uncovered a stash of child porn.
The horde hidden in his shed and the house included computer images, photos and snuff movies.
Okay. Snuff movies.
And then this one from South Africa,
In a gruesome case which has shocked South Africa, Ronnie Grimsley was jailed for life last week for his assault on 18-year-old Tanya Flowerday.
Police who investigated the case remain convinced that Tanya was killed after being featured in a snuff movie.
Where victims are filmed as they were raped and murdered.
They believe the disturbing video evidence has since been sold overseas.
So, I mean, so far, it really sounds like these snuff movies are real.
I mean, that's it.
I mean, that's the new media trick is effectively, we're pretty sure you won't look it up.
Yeah, and back then it was so much harder to look this sort of stuff up.
Yeah, well, I mean, the people that they're trying to fool with that nonsense are the exact same people who will never look it up.
And if you showed them the reference yourself would cover their eyes.
Yeah. I refuse to see.
I refuse.
They're like, no, it can't exist because as long as I keep it out of my universe, it doesn't exist.
That's right.
And then from Britain, also from The Guardian, During a harrowing trial at Lew's Crown Court, the jury had heard that Kautz, who kept Miss Longhurst's body for almost a month and visited it frequently while it was in a storage unit, was an avid user of sites devoted to snuff movies and necrophilia.
So yeah, this guy Kautz is raping dead bodies.
And then from the Daily Star, speaking in a trembling voice, she also told how she was forced to watch DVD snuff movies.
She said one of her attackers had said, quote, we are killers, you know, end quote.
Footballers gang.
It's a footballers gang.
That sounds like an early incarnation of the old grooming gang story.
Grooming gang story?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, I was going to say, like, the general, like, there was a huge problem in Britain with all kinds of groups of people grooming.
Ladies like this.
That's right.
I forgot about that.
That's still going on and it's been going on for decades, right?
Yeah, and so, you know, unsurprisingly, here's yet another story where, yeah, a gang of people were abusing her.
This is a more hardcore group than a lot of them, even.
This one apparently murdered people.
This one's murdering them and then raping their dead bodies for almost a month.
Yeah, or at least it counts.
And now it's like, did they do it?
They claim they did it.
They're admitting they did it.
Yeah, I'm in a necrophilia.
We are killers, you know?
That's pretty explicit.
And then this from the Netherlands.
Oh, dude, Nick Davies is a great journalist.
The Guardian.
The undercover officer asked Spinks if he could get him a sadomasochist video featuring boys as young as 10, and Spinks replied that he knew people in Amsterdam who could.
He said, I know, well, I knew some people who were involved in making snuff movies and how they did it was, they only sold them in limited editions, made 10 copies or something, 10 very rich customers in America who paid $5,000 each or something like that.
Um, yeah, talking about snuff movies in Amsterdam.
Lives are so cheap.
$5,000.
Yep, 50k and they'll kill somebody.
This comes out from Ireland, Irish Times.
A special police unit was able to infiltrate a pedophile network, intercepting packages of pornographic material arriving by mail and then having them delivered by undercover policemen dressed as postmen and carrying hidden cameras.
Thousands of tapes and digital discs seized.
During raids on 600 homes, it included scenes in which minors, possibly orphans or kidnap victims, some aged only two, were raped.
That's a particularly gruesome one there.
Dark ship.
This is as dark as Beyonce's taint.
That's the nasty amongst the nasties right there.
To use a Britishism.
Let's see.
One videotape appears to have been a snuff movie showing the killing of a child.
Yeah, and it's pretty weird that Wikipedia emphatically denies the existence of snub films and like most media and ritualistic abuse.
And then there's like, you know, all this forensic science and all this clinical and legal evidence that just proves to the contrary.
But Wikipedia is like, no, that is on Wikipedia.
It's on Wikipedia.
I know.
That's the best part.
Mostly false.
All false.
Except for this stuff.
Well, what does Snopes say?
We have to trust Snopes, right?
Snopes says mostly false, except for all the times it happened.
It has never happened.
It's not verified, right?
If something happens, they can't say it's not true.
They just have to say, well, it's just not verified.
So we can't say.
We have asked dozens of corpses and not a single one will talk.
We can confirm that there is no...
There are no confirmed eyewitness evidence.
Corpses wouldn't talk.
Yeah, nobody confirmed that their murder was recorded.
We've asked like a dozen corpses now.
I'm sorry.
This investigation's not going anywhere.
We swear, we were even twisting their arms.
They just wouldn't talk.
We just can't get it.
We just didn't get it.
He threatened one of them with jail.
But he was just far too hardened by the experience.
Then this comes from the Daily Telegraph.
Ernst Dieter Korsen, 37, and Stefan Michael Mann, 30, videotaped themselves sexually assaulting and torturing a 21-year-old woman in 1997.
The victim died.
Oh, yeah.
The victim died before the production was complete, and the pair kidnapped a second woman to finish the video.
But she escaped and alerted authorities who arrested the men.
That's what we mentioned last week.
That's why that name sounded very familiar, the Ernst Dieter Korsen.
So they're in the process of making the snuff film, and then they killed the woman too quickly.
And then they had to go kidnap another woman who escaped.
Oh, it's so hilarious.
Let's see.
The court was told that the murdered woman, Julia Akpenar, was working as a prostitute in Cologne when she met the two men in November.
They offered her drugs and money to go with them to the remote bungalow in Kirspjuronsal, near Hagen.
Both men were jailed for life in a secure psychiatric institution.
Judge Horst Werner Herkenberg said...
Oh, Judge Horst Werner Herkenberg said Corzin should not expect his case to be re-examined for at least 18 years and that Mon would have to wait at least 15. So they're probably both out now.
I'd like to think not, but you're probably right.
I just love that name, though.
Horst Werner Herkenberg.
And then this comes out of Naples, Italy, 2000.
Police said on Wednesday they had arrested eight Italians suspected belonging to a child pornography ring that traded videos over the Internet, including film of Russian children who were abused to death.
Again, like we said last week, over and over.
But snuff films just simply don't exist.
They don't exist!
What are we talking about here?
They don't exist!
They don't exist, you know, because we don't look at them.
What would Jerry Seinfeld say?
What's the deal with snuff films?
What's the deal with snuff films?
And oh yeah, by the way...
Somebody raises his hand all angrily, I was in a snuff film!
You filmed me!
And he's like, ooh, tough crowd.
Ooh, tough crowd, huh?
Yanking his collar a little bit.
So what's the deal with cancer was the best line, dude.
Oh, yeah.
I have cancer.
Yeah. And guys, Jerry Seinfeld, like, he fucking was notorious for dating underage girls back in the day.
Like, he was on live television talking about it.
Basically Roman Polanski minus the scandal, honestly.
Oh, yeah, 100%.
Like, he did the same thing, pretty much, except for the fact that everyone was just kind of okay with it instead of bothered by it.
He did it in the open and talked about it.
Yeah, he just never made the mistake of, like, officially going the whole, like, let's tie the knot.
Right. Never got it on paper.
Once they hit that point, they're like, okay, now we have to slap you on the wrist and say, no, no, no.
Enough of that.
We don't do that, Jerry.
We don't be that obvious.
Jerry, Jerry, Jerry.
I'd say if he tried to get married to one of them before they actually turned 18, you know, then it would have been a problem because that kills the plausible deniability.
Yeah. All you had to do, Jerry, was not marry her.
That's all you had to do.
You had one job, Jerry.
And I wanted to make a snuff film.
It's like, I'm sorry.
I thought it would bring us together as a couple if I got married and then I put her in a snuff film.
Oh, Jerry Seinfeld.
Alright, let's take a look at this next article by Newsweek.
Yeah, let's look at this article by Newsweek called The Web's Dark Secret.
You want to read this one?
Alright. Father Fortunato de Noto.
I love that name.
Yeah, it's great.
Counts himself as having fun spent among the innocent, or at least the blissfully ignorant.
Okay, I was like, tell me he's not the perpetrator?
He's not.
Surprisingly, in this case, Father Fortunato is not.
Okay, good.
I was like, I really like the name, and I'd be sad if he were the villain after that.
Okay. His parish church, the Madonna del Camino, occupies a square in an old part of Avola.
A small coastal town in Sicily.
The outside of Father Fortunato's church is drab concrete.
Inside, overhanging the pews and altars, is a garish modern painting portraying the seven deadly sins.
A group of children has gathered in a small wooden alcove for a Bible class.
Beyond them, in a small back office, two boys are playing Super Mario Brothers on a computer.
That is a Nintendo Entertainment System.
I'm pretty sure they don't have a Famicom.
But that's editorializing.
Alright. It was here by Grim Happenstance in 1996 that Father Fortunato began to offer an internet course to parish children, believing it was a vital learning tool.
I sense this is not going to end well.
So far, this doesn't sound good.
No. A priest offering parish children an internet course as a vital learning tool, but...
Hold on.
This is not going where you think.
Okay. All right.
During one of the first meetings of his informal study group, a little girl said she wanted to search for lollipops.
Yeah, innocent enough.
Yeah, you know.
Using an Italian slang word for lollipop, Slurpee.
Okay, I can see why this went south.
Father Fortunato punched the letters into the search engine.
Probably should not have used that slang term.
The term Slurpee also happens to be a slang for a sex act and, you know, also a drink.
And the results led him to a site called the Pedophile Liberation Front, which defends the lifestyle of pedophiles.
PLF. I was wondering, what search engine do you think he was using in 1996?
That would have been like AOL, right?
Or maybe Netscape Navigator?
I'm trying to think.
It would have been either Infoseek or maybe AltaVista.
AltaVista. I remember AltaVista and Infoseek were the two big ones.
Yahoo was pretty popular even back then.
AOL was massive.
AOL's search engine was huge.
Half people were getting internet through AOL on top of it.
Yeah. And then Netscape Navigator.
I think that's what I fucking used all the time back in the day.
Oh yeah, Netscape Navigator.
I actually really preferred that to Internet Exploder.
Yeah, I never used AOL.
I did.
I just hated AOL for some reason.
I never liked AOL for anything.
Oh yeah, AOL had a crappy browser and their internet service wasn't terribly much better.
It was just really ubiquitous and there were so many disks that you could pretty much play Frisbee with the disks for the rest of time and never burn through them.
Fuck AOL.
It still exists, doesn't it?
I don't know, actually.
Does AOL still exist?
I wonder what would happen if you stuck one of those old install disks into your computer now.
Be like, what the hell is this?
So back to this formerly now innocent, now terribly traumatized pastor.
Yeah, I just wanted to see if AOL, like what they're even up to at this point in time.
Says like, as of 20, yeah, dude.
It still exists.
It's just not AOL anymore.
It's just a different name.
Yahoo Incorporated bought it out.
Time Warner had it for a while.
Verizon Communications had it for a while.
AOL.com is still a thing, dude.
It lives on.
It's like the zombie service.
It never dies.
Oh my god.
It still exists.
AOL is still a thing.
I'm on their website right now.
I mean, I think you can even still make a MySpace.
This is better than Edge.
This is better than Google.
Well, you know, maybe it runs better.
It probably does.
I don't know.
Maybe I'll start using AOL.
All right, continue.
So Father Fortunato opens his AOL browser.
Through that link, Father Fortunato found other sites and discovered letters addressed to kids attempting to lure them into strange online relationships.
I would counter that it's not strange, it's deviant and very obvious.
Lure. Yep, lure.
So not recruit, lure.
After four years of doing research, the very same thing that got Pete Townsend from the band The Who in trouble.
That kind of research.
Well, probably a little less hands-on.
Maybe. Equally, hopefully not at all.
He and three colleagues had uncovered evidence of atrocities, including photos of child rape involving children as young as toddlers and infants.
Various clues led him around the globe to sites and peddlers of child porn in Russia, Europe, and America.
Eventually, he helped investigators break a major international ring of pedophiles based in Russia, leading to a series of crackdowns.
Man, it's always Russia.
Yeah, Russia is appearing a lot in these stories.
That's weird.
I mean, for a significant portion of the time that we're speaking of, Ukraine was a part of Russia.
That's true.
Because we're talking like USSR at this point.
Yeah, I was going to say, this is USSR.
This would have been, I don't know if it would have been during or pre-fall of Iron Curtain, but Ukraine wasn't really a separate entity very much.
They were just the very edge of Russia.
96, that's like right.
At the peak, when shit was actually, like, 96, when did the Iron Curtain fall?
The Iron Curtain fell shortly after the fall of the Berlin Wall, as I recall.
Like, 89?
Yeah, because even though it wasn't inside of Russia, that was, like, the symbolic, or the failure of that was caused by the internal rotting of communism itself, where effectively...
The whole reason why it fell is because there was no orders to stop anybody because the whole chain of command just went to mush.
Customs agents have already secretly executed search warrants on several targets of the investigation, who are alleged to be customers of a Moscow website called Blue Orchid.
Sources told Newsweek that the American targets of the Blue Orchid investigation may be involved in trading photos with other pedos.
One of the most distressing aspects of this investigation, law enforcement sources say, was the discovery that Blue Orchid was peddling a tape to American suspects in which a molester was depicted severely beating up a child.
Why? Why?
What? It's one thing to molest.
It's another to beat the fuck and kill.
What the fuck, man?
What? It prompts someone to want that shit.
Yeah, it's like there's not even this delusional rationale of you're giving them love here.
You're just hurting them at this point.
I don't get it.
It's so horrible.
So it's like you can't even make the disgusting justification that the weird pedos do.
No. Dude, what the fuck?
It's just you're straight up hurting people and you don't even make excuses.
You're just awful.
Hurt people hurt people.
Yep. Child porn comes in many forms, ranging from photos of kids in baths to the...
Well, it's...
Yeah, I don't know.
For some, maybe.
To the terrible images that Father Fortunato discovered.
Yeah, I was just like, I'm like, maybe according to, you know, WAP.
Yes, WAP.
Those kids are fully clothed and, yeah.
Alright, some are old images that have been scanned into computers.
Others are new.
Usually when you're talking about the bath images, those are the ones that leak from other people.
Gross weirdos use them for their own purposes, unfortunately.
I mean, family photos.
I mean, I have pictures of me when I was a little baby.
Yeah, I was like, I kind of balk at the whole, like, those are all...
Exclusively exploitation.
Like, that's a bit much.
I'm not gonna go there.
I guess that's one thing if, like, the intent of the photos, like, they put the kids in the baths for this intent.
For that reason.
But just, like, taking the picture, like, while they're taking a bath, yeah, I can't really abide by that.
That's a bit too far.
Yeah. To make presumptions like that.
Many pedos never act on their urges or have any desire to commit a hands-on crime.
Well, that's definitely not the people making snuff films.
Not these guys.
No, yeah.
But others actively seek out opportunities to commit active cruelties that are horrendous.
Yeah, that's these people.
15 or 20 years ago, enforcement officers in the United States figured they had child porn under control.
They cracked out on peddlers and buyers who were using Overland Mail and neighborhood photo labs to such an extent that it was hard for peddlers to find and interact with one another.
Oh, what a shame.
Yeah, it's nuts because it wasn't until the mid-90s or something when people were still sending this stuff through the mail.
Videos, pictures, it almost wasn't even like no one cared about it.
Especially in the 70s and 80s.
In the 90s rolled around in.
Oh, yeah.
Like before that, yeah, it was very well quietly accepted.
And then they cracked down on it.
I wonder if it was to make them the content more valuable?
I mean, $50 to $100, yeah, that would drive up the value cynically.
It would, actually.
Yeah, it would.
Makes you kind of wonder, I mean.
The authorities could have cracked down on it the entire period.
They were just quietly ignoring it.
Right. Because, you know, this was much more easily detectable stuff.
This isn't stuff you'd have to cyber sleuth out.
Right. A lowly and hunted breed, they often resorted to crossing national borders to places like Sri Lanka and the Philippines that had more available victims and less strict law enforcement.
They are really describing it like it's a national geographic.
Like species here.
Peds, yeah.
A lonely and hunted breed.
The wild pedo roams the Serengeti Desert.
Who's that British guy that they always have on the Discovery Channel narrating things?
Dudley Moore.
No, the other guy.
I forget.
A lonely and hunted breed that often resorted to cross the national borders.
Places like Sri Lanka in the Philippines.
Yeah, that fucking guy.
Yeah, I was about to say, like, it sounds like he's, like, watching, like, stock footage of, like, animals, like, migrating.
Exactly, dude.
A lonely and haunted breed.
All right.
Kevin Delicoli said, child pornography was pretty much eradicated in the 1980s.
Pretty much.
It is pretty much.
Says Kevin Delicoli.
With awesome name.
Who runs the U.S. Customs Cyber Smuggling Center.
With the advent of the internet, it exploded.
Oh yeah.
No longer did PETA's have to prowl and lurk in the shadows of the seedier sections of cities for photos or films.
They could meet friends and download child porn made with digital cameras and homemade CD-ROMs.
Nor did Americans believe they had to travel to lands where sexual laws were milder.
Today, international PETA rings sell and trade hundreds of thousands of images all online.
And I imagine that number's only gone up since then.
Ugh. Oh, it definitely didn't go down.
You know?
When police in 13 countries, including the United States...
Broke up the online Wonderland pedophile ring in 1998.
They discovered computer files with more than 750,000 images and 1,800 videos in Britain alone.
In Britain alone.
At the time, the 200 members of the Wonderland Internet Relay chat group each had to provide 10,000 images of CP in order to join.
That is nuts.
10,000 in order...
To join?
Like... Wow.
How do you recruit someone for this?
200 members.
200 members each had to do...
And you know there are probably more than 200 members.
Oh yeah, that's the 200 that were caught, I'm presuming.
Wow. What's 200 times...
What is it?
200? That's 200,000.
So yeah.
That would only be a third of their overall...
That would actually be just a little over a quarter of their overall stash right there.
Damn, dude.
Wow. Coming through the videos...
That's 2 million, isn't it?
Wait. 200...
200 times 10,000?
Yeah, that doesn't make sense.
Yeah, because that wouldn't be 200,000.
That would be 2 million.
So, in other words, they didn't even recover all the images, so a lot of that junk is probably still out.
Oh, definitely, definitely is.
No doubt about that.
Wow. I wonder if those all different...
Well, by this point, hold on, fuck, who knows, man?
Like, all individual, different victims?
Let's see how many we talk about.
Oh, Jesus.
Coming through the photos and extracting head and shoulder shots, police in the United Kingdom invited 1,263 different victims, all of them under the age of puberty.
That last part makes me gag.
Yeah, 1,263 different victims all under the age of puberty.
So we're talking under the age of 11, essentially.
Yeah, we're talking...
Yeah. 10-11, whatever it would be.
That's fucking crazy.
In the United Kingdom.
In the United Kingdom.
Alright. Yeah, just in Britain alone.
Alright. In the Netherlands, when activists broke up the Apollo ring of child abusers read by Gerald Aldrich the same year, they discovered CD-ROM duplicating facilities in his home.
On the first disc alone, Dutch police identified more than 200 victims.
Sixteen more such discs had yet to be fully catalogued.
Many of the images on the Ulrich CD-ROMs and Wonderland computer tapes show children as young as three months subjected to sexual abuse.
Terrible. Just terrible.
I have no off-color jokes for that one.
Cricket, for the younger listeners, can you explain what CD-ROMs are?
Ah, yes.
Compact disc read-only memory.
Oh, the days.
There used to be these things with girl DVDs that were about one-tenth the size of DVDs called CD-ROMs.
They looked exactly the same, pretty much.
And at the end, they came out with the CD-ROMs after that.
And that was the real craze, because now you could make your own.
And it was effectively like a huge revolution in digital storage because out of nowhere, people could easily burn mass.
mass amounts of data for transfer.
Whereas up until then you had, you know, unwieldy zip disks.
They were really expensive floppies, which were tiny, which were huge and had very little space on them.
So CD-ROMs were a pretty massive jump forward and were integral in things like, in particular,
Huge. Did you know that they came out...
They're making CDs hot again, right?
They came out with a new type of optical disc that can store the equivalent.
It's called a petabit.
It can store the equivalent of 125 terabytes of data on one disc.
And it's kind of like three dimensions.
So there's up to 100 layers in this disc, on these new discs.
Isn't that nuts?
Nice. Probably not as cheap as the old ones.
Boy, imagine how much you could fit on there.
You could fit multiple hard drives on that thing.
Dude, it's like you easily could fit multiple hard drives on one disc.
And they're really expensive.
I'm not sure exactly how much they are.
Yeah, I can't imagine that's cheap, but it sounds pretty awesome.
A-I-E-D-D-P-R.
Who knows?
It's expensive.
When authorities took down a child porn website run by Wayne Camoli in Palm Beach, Florida.
Yay! American exceptionalism.
Oh my god.
They were acting on a tip from Belgian police.
They found that associates of the notorious Belgian pedophile Nark Neutro had sent pornography to Kamoli, who was later sentenced to 16 months in federal prison after being convicted on one count of transmitting CP.
That's pretty nuts that there's a connection between Wayne Kamoli in Palm Beach, Florida, and Mark Dutro.
Like, that's...
Insane. I mean, not many people talk about that.
Kind of demonstrates that, well, you know, industry ruins everything, and we are talking about an industry that pretends it doesn't even exist.
Yeah. Ain't that the truth?
In Dutro's dungeon-equipped house, one of at least six, police had found 500 videotapes, many depicting the rape of children.
And newly, police, with the help of Microsoft Italia, Interesting.
Ran a sting in which they mirrored a Russian website believed to be connected to the U.S. investigation.
The website was offering all manners of CP ranging from quote slash unquote artistic nude poses.
I'm surprised I didn't add for research also.
Oh yeah.
To brutal sexual and physical abuse.
Or research.
Italian police began criminal proceedings against 1,700 Italians for actively purchasing the porn.
There you go.
Going after the buyers.
Nailing the actual reason the industry exists.
Because yeah, the horrible ritual weirdos will do their thing anyways, but there's a lot of people that are just going to do it for the money.
There are a lot of people that say that too.
It's like they only did it for the fucking money.
Exactly. And you don't want more perverse incentives for people to be their worst selves.
Money provides all that?
Documents filled with InterNIC, the internet registration agency, show that one of the Russian child porn websites, which was in English, Was actually registered to someone in Tuscaloosa, Alabama in the United States.
More exceptionalism.
More exceptionalism.
Alabama of all places.
In 1999, a Fort Worth, Texas couple, Thomas and Janice Reedy, were charged with providing access to CP websites with names like child rape and children forced to porn.
Right to the point.
Yeah, no ambiguity there.
Through hyperlinks on their own homepage, making more than a million dollars in fees from it.
More perverse incentives.
Yeah. A couple started a company called Landslide Productions, Inc., which on the outside seemed to be a normal adult porn company.
But through their website, kintamani.com, I wonder if that means something.
Kintamani. Yep.
Moni is like a hand.
Hmm. Kinta.
I wonder.
While you read this, I'll see.
Yeah, I was going to say Kinta might be, sounds almost like kinder.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
Hey, subscribers, could then be linked to numerous other websites that were geared towards CP.
A bulletin board on their site included ads from parents offering to swap their kids for sex to like-minded parents.
You'll swap.
And that's like what the Ramseys were doing, a lot of people say.
You know, Pat and John Ramsey, Patsy and John Ramsey with Jean Benet saying like they were part of this like child trading type thing.
Yeah. Every so often I learn of something new that I'd rather not have learned.
In this case, kid swingers.
Kid swingers.
Yeah. Holy shit.
Here's what Kintamani means, dude.
It's actually...
A town in Bali.
Oh. And it's also a wish-fulfilling jewel within both Hindu and Buddhist traditions, some said to be the equivalent of the philosopher's stone in Western alchemy.
And it's also the name of a small village in Bali that is quite famous for its tourist destinations.
Hmm. And we know like...
Sounds like some occultism references.
That and also how these poorer countries are big destinations for peds, right?
Oh, absolutely.
Like Sri Lanka.
That definitely makes one question this town.
Yep, that's what I'm saying.
This town might be a little suspicious.
Kintamani, Bali, Indonesia.
Maybe don't book that next year for your getaway.
You might get gotaway.
You might get gotaway.
Goodness. Of 89 criminal counts, the jury found Thomas Reedy guilty on all counts and Janice Reedy guilty on 87. The court sentenced Thomas Reedy to 180 months consecutive imprisonment on each count.
The prison term would have equaled 1,335 years, so the court ordered that he serve a life sentence.
Yikes. Which may actually mean people can get out, because sometimes that actually means 25 years, depending on the state.
It's true.
Like Canada is 25 years.
It's their life sentence.
Yeah, life sentence.
I thought that meant until you died.
It does not.
All right.
Janice Reedy received 168 months imprisonment on each count to run concurrently, which equaled 14 years.
Yeah, and I wanted to just make a comment here about how these couple had their own homepage, right?
Thomas and Janice Reedy have their own homepage for Landslide Productions and Kintamani.com.
But it made me think about a woman named Tamara Lozato, who I covered in my Comet Ping-Pong series, episodes 53, 54, and 55. Please go check those out.
She's a big name.
She's a big name, but she also had a website.
And so I just want to do a little background on Tamara.
So she began working for Senator John D. Rockefeller between 1985 and 1999 and rose to being his chief of staff.
And then she acted as his primary advisor on the National Commission on Children and the Pepper Commission on Healthcare.
And if you recall what ex-ISPY Robert Steele said about these types of foundations, you know, like the Clinton Foundation, which Jeffrey Epstein actually helped start and fund.
He said that these foundations are commonly used by the wealthy to...
Traffic children.
Unfortunately. Yeah.
And then, soon after Tamara was appointed to those positions, she was then ushered into the position of being Chief of Staff for Hillary Clinton, back when old Hillary usurped the New York Senate seat after suspected kidnapper and child rapist John Podesta,
who was Chief of Staff to Billy Clinton at the time, personally recommended her.
You know, flocks of a feather, stick-together sort of thing.
And after her first husband died, Tamara would marry her current husband, David J. Leder, who was the former chief of staff to Senator John Kerry, and had been appointed to an energy department position by Billery.
In one article by Home and Garden, which is arguably the most boring magazine, one of the worst of its kind, described the audacious pair as a Washington-powered couple.
that they had a shit ton of power and influence for whatever reason.
Maybe it's because of their vast wealth, or perhaps it's the fact that they are DC Swamp Rats, like most of them there, but it's most likely both, both reasons.
Tamera is currently the Senior Vice President at the Pew Charitable Trust where she leads government relations and ensures that Pew's wide range of policy work at the state...
federal and international levels, is effectively communicated to policy makers.
So, essentially, they're just buying policies, you know.
Everyone's got a price.
Yeah. Well, you know, they probably pick policies.
They pick policies and make the money circulate and get shit done.
All illegally.
But, you know, what do you do?
When Tamara giddily hopped on the Hillary Clinton bandwagon, the little group that consisted of 13 women and one gay man basically inhabited the west wing of the White House like cave dwellers, which was given the name Hillary Land.
Ugh. Can you imagine?
It's like an amusement park, minus the amusement.
And the magic and the joy.
And any joy whatsoever.
And you'd be stuck with Hillary.
Yeah, the worst.
And it's said that her group would never leak information to the press, and I think we all know why by now.
Hint, hint, the Killary body count.
Well, technically they leak, it's just, you know, they don't leak information, they just leak bodily fluids.
Yeah. Now, let's look at one of those leaked emails from back in the day after Seth Rich, who worked on Killary's 2016 campaign, was found murdered with two bullets to his head shortly after those emails were leaked.
Some say it was Rich who leaked those emails, but who knows?
Who fucking knows?
So this email goes on like this.
With enormous gratitude to Advanced Man Extraordinaire Haber, I am popping up again to share our excitement about the reprise of our gang's visit to The Farm in Lovettsville.
And I thought I'd share a couple more notes.
We plan to heat the pool, so a swim is a possibility.
Bonnie will be Uber's service to transport Ruby, Emerson, and Maeve Lozado, 11, 9, and almost 7, so you'll have some further entertainment.
And they will be in that pool, for sure.
And with the forecast showing prospects of some sun and a cooler temp of lower 60s, I suggest you bring sweaters of whatever attire will enable us to use our outdoor table with a pergola overhead, so we dine al fresco, and ideally, not al chilo.
Boo! Stupid.
I am CCing Trudy to repeat the invite and sending pining wishes.
You could come to Rima, John P. It's John Podesta.
And Lori and Chris.
Con amore.
Miss Farmer L. The casual language for this.
Yeah. And notice how she goes by Miss Farmer, okay?
Miss Farmer.
Now, I know there have been some great researchers who have linked her nickname to what is called the Farm Circuit, which is in reference to the 1981 documentary about child trafficking and prostitution.
Many well-known child traffickers have called their base of operations or homes where they do these things as farms.
I find it really interesting.
Like, the Finders had a farm.
These fucking well-known child trafficking groups.
They have these farms.
Human farmers.
I think, what's his name?
That satanic military guy.
Aquino. I can't remember his first name.
But he had a farm.
These guys have farms.
They're CIA operatives.
They have farms.
And Tamara mentions that there are three children.
Ruby, who was 11 at the time.
Emerson, who was 9. And Mov, who was...
Or is it Mav or Maeve?
Mav, I think.
I think it's Mav.
Is it Mav?
Who was nine and Mav who was seven.
Or Mav.
Nah, it should be Mav.
So these young children, they're going to be there in this pool.
So keep in mind that Tamara is the step-grandmother of the three children mentioned in the email.
The actual mother of the children is named Alexandra Huntington-Tidings, who is or was also an actress and played a part in Xena, Warrior Princess.
Remember that shit?
Hmm. Fucking Xena was baller.
And so, yeah, there's your Hollywood connection.
So, what is the big deal with Tamara and this email to John Podessa referring to three young children being Ubered in to some house party or whatever to provide further entertainment in the heated pool in this quote-unquote farm?
Well, it was that email that eventually led researchers to a webpage put up by Tamara and or her husband David.
The website was quickly set to invite only after people started to dig into it.
But luckily, a lot of screenshots were archived before that happened.
And so what's that website?
It's called Evie's Crib.
You can use the Wayback Machine and look it up.
Many of you have probably heard of it by now, but let's just dive into it a little bit.
Who is Evie?
Evie is the nickname of Tamara's stepdaughter, Marissa Lozado's infant daughter, Evelyn.
On the homepage, at the very top, under the titles of the pages, you know, Evie's Crib, Is some text that is basically pinned at the top on every page that you navigate to.
And that text says, quote, End quote.
Creepy. Is that weird or what?
To offer paying customers webcam time?
Raw and uncut with an infant child?
Like, what's going on here?
And the weird Queen of the USA backstory and stuff?
Queen of the entire US of A. She will have the power of life and death over you.
Interesting choice of words, right?
Yeah. So, looking further into Evie's crib, there is a page titled Evie's New Friend Jack.
And on that page, you can see the following text.
Quote, Jack is owned by Ken Weber and Stephanie Copeland, who live a few blocks from us.
End quote.
First, it's like, alright, owned?
Who says they own their child?
Oh yeah, we own all our kids.
That's fucking weird.
You own your kids?
So weird.
Usually the term involved is disown, as in, you ain't mine anymore.
For real.
So then if I want us to go onto the page that Tamara calls Jack's place on her website, you'll find two photos of Jack.
One of the photos is of the infant boy who is maybe six months old, and he's in a small baby bathtub naked.
Luckily, someone overlaid a small Canadian maple leaf graphic, just barely covering his genitals.
And below the two photographs is more text.
The important part of the text reads, quote, Unrated version of this photo available only to premium subscribers.
End quote.
And then that's followed by a winking smiley face.
Yeah. What do you make of that?
I'm guessing that would be the invite-only people that could still use the website after it went dark.
Yeah. Unrated version of this photo available.
Why would you want an unrated version of that photo?
This kid is an infant.
It's crazy.
Yeah. Let's touch on one more thing with Evie's crib here.
So on the website, there are alphabetical pages listed with their titles.
We don't know what the majority of these pages consist of since there were no screenshot grabs, but some of the more disturbing titles include Baby Ambien, Filth, Psychopath, and Tranquilizers.
Gruesome. I'm guessing that's like categories.
Yeah, it must be.
I mean, when you click on them, it doesn't bring you anywhere, so you just don't know.
But first, it's like Baby Ambien and tranquilizers.
We know that these people drug children to do these things.
And then we also know that, like, they also abuse their kids by, like, shitting and pissing on them.
It's kind of ritualistic.
The filth thing?
The filth, exactly.
Psychopath. Well, I feel like psychopath could be used as a descriptor for all of these.
Right. It's self-explanatory.
Like, that's just...
The worst of the worst page, I guess.
I feel like that'd be the really scary one, honestly.
Yeah, like anything goes.
Oh, so yeah, here we have this career woman, old Tamara Lozada, with a lot of political power who comes from old money.
First, she was chief of staff to Jade Rockefeller with 36 staff working for her and acted as primary advisor in the National Commission on Children and the Pepper Commission on Healthcare.
And then she went right into being chief of staff for Hillary Clinton with 74 staff working for her.
And then went right into being the Managing Director for Government Relations with the Pew Charitable Trust.
And today, she is the Senior Vice President of that same foundation.
Now, why is or why was this woman openly advertising children like this?
I'll repeat this.
Evelyn is growing up.
Soon she'll be the queen of the entire US of A right now for a limited time.
Only you can spend time with her online, raw, and uncut.
Take advantage of this now.
As in the future, she will have the power of life and death over you.
And why is she advertising unrated versions of a naked infant for premium subscribers?
Yeah. Why?
I mean, it doesn't exactly take a, you know, map maker to draw a line between those.
No. Especially when everything these people are accused of doing for the past, you know, ten years.
Like Hillary Clinton and John Podesta, Tony Podesta.
Oh man, Epstein and Ghislaine and all these people.
So when you see a person like this with such a position of power...
It's not really shocking, it's more so.
Yep, that's about right.
Sounds right.
Checks out.
Yeah. But yeah, you know, what do you do?
What do you do?
What the fuck do you do?
Alright, well let's finish this out with one last article by AP News, published back in April of 2004.
This article has been scrubbed, much like Evie's crib, and just like Evie's crib, I had to use the Wayback Machine to get to it.
It's titled, Killed Porn Star Linked to Snuff Film.
So again, this little two-part series here is all about the existence of snuff films, because people say, no, they don't exist.
And so what we're doing here is just we're bringing to light all of these articles by very reputable things and companies and places and news agencies and government agencies, Interpol, for God's sakes, all saying that this shit is fucking way more than real.
It's happening next door to you right now.
Your neighbor is doing this to your other neighbor's child in their basement right now.
Just look out your window right now.
Go over there and look.
Hopefully not yours specifically, but somebody's looking out the window at their neighbor if someone is doing this.
Yeah, yeah.
Somewhere. Somewhere.
It's happening.
Definitely happening.
Alright, so this comes from 2004acurrentaffair.com.
A Canadian porn actress found stabbed to death last month may have been killed while shooting a film that was to have simulated the murder of a woman during sex, prosecutors said.
DNA clues in a scrawled note referring to a snuff video.
Connect photographer Anthony J. Frederick to the death of 23-year-old Natal King, whose body was found in a trash-filled ravine in March.
Frederick, 46, was being held for trial on first and third degree murder charges.
What about second degree?
Just skip second degree there?
Yeah. You know?
We'll give you first and third, but don't worry about second.
It wasn't spontaneous enough, I guess.
Yeah. His assailant, Jennifer Mitkus, 29, was held on charges of lying to authorities and hindering apprehension.
King, the victim here, who was from the Toronto area, disappeared after posing for Fredericks in a hardcore bondage shoot that had been arranged over the internet.
Her body was found nearly a month later, naked and slashed and still wearing bondage devices.
Castor said police found a note in a camera bag in Frederick's home that served as a contract between a photographer and an actor.
It listed various types of video and photo shoots and used the phrase snuff vid.
So, yeah.
Given all the evidence in this two-part series on the existence of snuff films, I think we can all finally agree that indeed snuff films exist and that there is more than enough tangible evidence to prove that.
The end.
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
What more can you say?
Just all of that.
As a final comment, there is definitely no evidence.
Yeah. Definitely no evidence.
Some films don't exist.
They're not real.
See, like, when you're thinking of no evidence, you're thinking like, you know, you and I would think no evidence, as in there's nothing on paper that we can nail down that confirms that this might have happened or something like that.
But you're not using the trademark no evidence, which means no evidence.
It means itself.
It's defined by itself.
It means stop looking.
Quit asking questions.
No evidence means we don't want you to find that evidence.
So we're going to say it's not there.
And if we find it, we're not going to be refuted and correct ourselves.
We're going to be mad at you.
Dude, that is how it works, man.
And they get mad at you when you find this shit, which is why a lot of people, when they find stuff on the internet that's like definitely illegal or whatever, they're afraid to go to the cops.
They're like, say, look, I found something.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. Or worse, find something that they're upset because you weren't supposed to find it.
Right, you found something that they're involved in.
Yeah, implicates one of them.
Like, you know, maybe they're looking the other way or maybe they're a customer.
You never know.
But either way, you sure do get crapped on for exposing this stuff.
You do.
You sure do.
Keeps people at bay.
They don't want to go fucking talk.
It's how the system of backmail, how it twists.
We're going to finish this out with A random trivia question.
Cricket, I'm going to ask you a question.
What you got?
What is the only mammal capable of true flight?
True flight.
True flight.
Mammal. I don't know.
A bat.
A fucking bat, bro.
I should have known that.
What is the only country in the world that has a flag with just one color and no design and no signia or any other details?
That's hard as fuck.
I don't know shit about flags.
Blank Pagia.
Libya. They have like a monochrome flag.
That's crazy.
They did.
From 77 to 2011, they did.
It was solid green.
Exciting. That's so exciting.
They're like, I guess so.
Nostalgic and patriotic as I stare at her flag on the wall and they're like, sir, that's mold.
That's fucking mold.
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For real.
Follow us over there on TwitterX and Gab or wherever else.
And I've decided that, you know, we should just move our base of operations over to Gab instead of Twitter.
I mean, Twitter has proven itself to be a wasteland inside of an echo chamber full of Trump and Musk cult members, dude.
That's like all it's become.
I mean, that's just my algorithm.
Well, yeah.
I mean, it's partially your algorithm doing that.
But at the same time, I get a whole lot of that, too.
And what do I engage with?
Dark Souls and Booba.
What do I get?
Exactly no Dark Souls and Booba.
Yeah, that's so weird.
Maybe one out of every tenth post is related to some nice anime ta-tas.
Or like a Souls meme.
And then the rest of it is all political crap that I never like and very seldom comment on, yet constantly shows up.
Exactly. So yeah, that part of it is definitely ingenuine, because when you look at my scroll, I should be getting, well, Souls and Poobah.
You should be, and you don't get any of it.
It's like I anticipate getting some viral crap from Musk once in a while and or some of the bigger accounts, you know?
But it shouldn't be all that.
It should be some stuff relevant to the things I actually engage with, for God's sake.
I agree.
And, man, Elon dominates the feed.
It's ridiculous.
Oh, yeah.
Like, every other comment is a fucking Elon Musk retweet or something.
Like, I feel like...
If I blocked Musk instead of just muting him and then I proceeded to block all the people that are freaking out about how Nazis are taking over or whatever...
I would just have empty dead air and the algorithm wouldn't even know what to populate.
It would just be like, well, oh man, we're going to have to give you what you want now, what you're actually trying to, what you actually want to show up here.
And then it would just do that thing where the tree ends and it just won't scroll further down.
Fucking annoying.
So, with all that said, ladies and gentlemen, and I don't even know how Gab works.
Like, I started an account, and I don't know.
I don't know.
I assume it's the same.
I am very vaguely aware of social media as a whole.
So, for me, it's all essentially, like, pretty much...
It used to be all cats and people eating food.
Cats and stupid memes.
That weren't political.
And I remember how annoying that was, and my god, do I miss it.
Yeah, it's so much better.
So much better than what we get now.
It wasn't what I wanted, but it was at least closer.
I didn't vote for this.
Dang it.
When was Twitter's election?
God, I always forget.
I always forget to show up on election day, right?
Yeah, you should do that.
Like, every time we get banned, did I vote for this?
Like, write that back to them.
I did not vote to be...
Did you vote to be banned?
Alright, ladies and gentlemen, with that said, please take care of yourselves and take care of one another.
