CONTACT US: Email: paranaughtica@gmail.com Twitter: @paranaughtica Facebook: The Paranaughtica PodcastContact Cricket: Website: www.theindividuale.com Twitter: @Individualethe Hola! Como Estas?! Bien? Good, because today we are getting into some wild stuff. Necrophilia. This is a real sirloin of an episode we have for you today. It’s uhhh, it’s a real treat.We’ll have some news, specifically, Elon Musk puts out a tweet calling everyone who’s “not verified” on his platform, erm, a certain agencies platform.....”little bitches”. Real cool guy.We’ll cover some WW3 stuff. And how the ICC issued another arrest warrant for Netanyahu, as well as for his bestie, Gallant, and other high ranking Israeli officials. Don’t hold your breath.But then we have TONS of necrophilia stuff for your eager ear-jowls. We have a few stories to go over, such as, a guy molests over 100 corpses at clinics over 15-year period, some stuff about penguins, dark web, and we are going to dive into Karen Greenlee.....the woman necrophile who kidnapped a mans corpse on the way to the funeral..........and so much more. We’ve got more than an arm and a leg in this episode for you, so strap up that Velcro. Let’s slide into this mess. Oh, go to this link ===> https://on.soundcloud.com/Q1XRaY9WSpzawV9r7 to listen to some of Coops music. ***If you’d like to help out with a donation and you’re currently listening on Spotify, you can simply scroll down on my page and you’ll see a button to help us out with either a one-time donation or you can set up a monthly recurring donation. You can also go to the Facebook page where we have a link to Ko-Fi and Pay-Pal if you'd like to help out the show. We would greatly appreciate it! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
What? I was about to say, what topic does he want to do?
You know what?
I am not sure.
I was going to reach out to him this week and just kind of nail that down, see where we're going to go with it.
Because, like, his style, it's great, because his style is, he is very long-form.
So he will talk and talk and talk, which is, I love that.
It's less talking for me.
Oh, yeah, you should do good on a two-hour podcast, then.
Yeah. Yeah, dude.
I was pretty stoked about it.
Welcome, welcome to the show, everyone.
This is the Paranautica Podcast, where we don't just tiptoe in our Velcro-strapped Speed Racer slippers through eggshells into the beckoning darkness.
No sirreeba.
We cannonball straight into that shit.
Backwards. Fucking backwards.
I don't know, I kind of dug the DBZ intro, but...
Today, we decided to welcome you with a real doozer of a show, a true patty cake of all the patty cakes out there.
So, grab your favorite snacks, get your sippy cup, and settle in, because we're talking about a topic that's more than a little distressing.
Well, what's great is it's only distressing for one of the two parties involved.
That is very true.
That is very true.
The other is extremely, probably, unemotional about it.
Yeah, pretty unconcerned.
And now, before we dive into this nine-course meal, let's do a little thought experiment.
Think of all the bizarre, morally unquestionable things that people tend to do in the name of love.
Maybe it's stealing a glance at that stray dog over there.
Or perhaps it's writing a horrible poem about a vegetable garden.
Or worse yet, maybe it's stealing someone's underwear as a special keepsake.
For the third time.
And if a certain someone is listening, you know who I'm talking about.
Very weird.
But then, there are the folks who take it several thousand miles past that line, where a line should be drawn.
They've fully crossed into what happened in this person's life to make them this way territory.
And it's those people that we're talking about today.
Am I right?
Am I right, Cricket?
Yes. Some pursue love.
To the shallow degree, while others prefer to dig deep.
I like that.
Some prefer the shallow, and some prefer six feet.
Say six feet under.
Seeking out the perfect girlfriend, never to complain, never to object, and never to leave you.
Until you decide it's time to put them back.
Yeah, I've had enough of you anyway.
You don't talk enough.
And while it's a topic that's pretty heavy...
Very much off-limits to the PC society out there.
And that's why we're here.
To dig it up, so to speak.
Because here at the Paranautica Podcast, we poke and we prod at the topics that make others cringe and disgust and twaddle off in the opposite direction.
Relationship trouble?
Just grab the shovel.
So strap in, strap down, and strap on, dear listeners.
Brace yourselves.
Today... We're going balls deep into necrophilia, which is nice because we don't have far to go.
But first, let's cover some news.
News segment music.
So wait a second to swipe down then.
So, alright, the first news thing, I just saw this today, Elon Musk...
Literally called everybody who is not a verified Twitter user, you know, who has that blue checkmark.
They called all those people, he called all those people little bitches.
Yeah, you got that right.
You got that fucking right.
Elon Musk called all of us who are not verified on Twitter little bitches.
Little bitches.
The term is cheap ass.
I am a cheap ass and very unwilling to pay for anything.
Ah, fuck that shit.
Yeah, dude, I'm not paying that shit.
I mean, if you'd let me see my freaking post and I'll give you some money, you bastard.
They even put out this offer of 40% off to become a Premier member or whatever, and it was like $1.37 a month or whatever.
And still, I'm like, no, I'm not...
Why? To get a blue checkmark and not be shadowbanned?
That's probably worth it, actually.
The trick is you would get the blue checkmark, but you probably would still be shadowbanned.
Think about all the people who actually say controversial stuff and how often they actually show up for you and following.
They have to have massive organically hit tweets and I do not see them very much.
People who actually say the controversial stuff.
Yeah, so that's just fucking bullshit.
Elon Musk calling everyone little bitches.
And where that came from is some woman, obviously an attractive woman, and she posted her...
Ex-earnings, you know, how these fucking narcissistic assholes do that.
And it's part of, like, play the game, put that out there, and suck Elon's dick, you know, and at least one of his testicles as well.
Because why do they do that?
Why does somebody do that?
Look how much I made!
They're signaling that as the new status quo, essentially.
This is now essentially...
Where journalism goes because all of the other sources are so bent in other directions that this is the best we've got.
It's fucking bullshit.
And so this lady, she had made like $21,000 a month in advertising, which is ridiculous.
But you're not making that much money unless you're getting help.
From someone up top, like Elon Musk, who does this, reposts.
So what he did is he reposted her comment.
I made $21,000, look at me!
And then he reposted that and said, anyone who isn't verified is a little bitch.
Oh yeah.
Something along those lines.
It's so petty.
Well, you know, maybe he is staying up all hours of the night snorting special K like Sam Harris was saying he was.
I'm like...
Going steadily more insane.
I mean, damn.
That dude is definitely doing some drugs.
A short-term psychedelic...
Well, a short-term psychedelic, that's really hardcore.
Most other psychedelics, you do them once and then you kind of gotta wait.
I don't know about Kay.
Well, I guess if you have enough, technically, you don't have to wait.
Yeah, and I know for a fact that Kay gets around...
All over, like, Silicon Valley and shit.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, like, anywhere, really.
But, you know, they use it for micro-dosing.
And in some states, like Oregon, whatever, Colorado, they use it for psychiatric care, micro-dosing.
Oh, yeah.
So, I'm pretty sure Musk is not so much micro-dosing.
He's probably, like, macro-dosing, but daily, you know?
Micro-macro-dosing.
Yeah. Get through the day.
Mega-micro-macro-dose.
Yeah, so anyway, Elon Musk calling everyone a little bitch because they're not verified.
So if you're not verified, Elon Musk thinks you're a little bitch.
So, fuck you, Elon.
I'm so offended I'll continue to not bother to post on that cancer because I don't get any traction and if I do, it's either people attacking me or a whole bunch of inexplicably deleted posts.
That's the weird thing.
I'll get a lot where I'll say something and it'll get traction and a bunch of responses with no likes but then the responses will all disappear.
There'll be like 10 of them and I won't be able to read any of them.
It's really bizarre.
I don't understand it.
It's happened like 4 times now where I'll have like half a dozen responses and can't read any of them.
I don't know what that's about.
But you gotta stay on.
I don't get it.
You gotta stay on and you have to keep retweeting our show because it's the only way.
It's the only way.
Oh, I'll continue to do that.
I just don't really use it for much otherwise.
Mostly because I just feel like I'm always being combative any time I discuss anything.
Because I'm an arny bastard.
That's what they want.
I think that's the algorithm.
The algorithm does want that.
I don't want that from a spiritual balancing point, because the purpose of my posts are not to get people fighting.
I'm trying to resolve that.
It's just the algorithm wants you to fight.
So then all my really unifying posts get no traction.
I just gotta stay positive out there, bro.
Because there's nothing to fight about.
That's the trick, is that I'm sure lots of other people are saying nice shit out there, but you don't hear them, because all you see in the 4U, and for that matter you're following, is the controversial crowd, because even if you follow people who post a bunch of chill stuff,
they'll only show up a lot of times when there's controversy surrounding what they say.
It'll still be like, oh, did you say some nice things to somebody?
Oh, well, I didn't.
That didn't get traction?
No, all the negative bad shit overrode it.
But let's get into World War III.
What's going on with World War III, dude?
I'd like to not get into World War III if we could avoid it, but it seems they are insistent.
It seems like it's happening.
Yeah. Yeah, because Russia threw out all those ICBMs at Ukraine, which they didn't have nuclear capacity.
They didn't have the warheads on them.
But he sent them as like, look what we can do.
And we will do it if you keep provoking.
I mean, that's the word on the street.
They call it saber rattling, but I'm just like, yeah, that's a pretty scary saber rattle.
Yeah, and the weird thing about that Putin speech is if you watch that, he has his hands on the table and as he's like talking, he talks for eight minutes or...
This one portion of it, he's talking for eight minutes, but his hands literally never move.
Not a finger moves.
That really was bizarre.
I was watching the clip sped up.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's what really made it notable, is he's moving around all frantically, back and forth.
Looks like a crackhead, because it's sped up five times, and yet his hands never once move.
They're just frozen in place, and it's so bizarre.
Not even a finger, man.
Not even a finger.
But Antony Blinken visited Poland and Polish MEP met Braun.
They're concerned that USA is really trying to push this World War III and Blinken's just like, I mean, we're not not doing that.
Well, you know, I mean...
Everybody's all like, Biden's trying to get us into World War III, and I'm like, I think that dude's just pooping himself.
He's signing things to get us into World War III.
Here's a trillion dollars, and here's a trillion dollars worth of weaponry, but we're not trying to start a war.
Whichever version of Biden.
We're definitely heading into World War III.
There's no doubt about it.
It's just a matter of timing.
What I think it is, it's a matter of How long it takes us to feel and experience the effects of it, as in high prices of everything, like COVID-type shit.
Remember all that, when COVID, the scandemic happened, and stores were just wiped out of toilet paper, of all things?
Oh yeah, the freakout takes a bit to set in.
Yeah, and at the most, and I think that's kind of what we'll experience, is like...
Shortage and high prices of foods.
Unless they put boots on the ground, at least where we live, I don't really think we're going to see any boots on the ground, like soldiers marching around.
Not for a while.
Yeah, but I think things would be pretty freaking dire by that point, and we'd all be pretty well screwed regardless.
Exactly. When we see soldiers on the ground around our neighborhoods, and this goes for like anywhere, is when like martial law is called out because that's like FEMA camps will be opened and that's when troops will be everywhere.
and
And here's the thing that I don't think many Trump people who love Trump don't think about, but it's like Trump wants to declare a national emergency to get rid of the illegal immigrants, but if anybody understands the pattern of this,
it's a president will put in a national emergency, which We'll lead, because look at the state of the world right now, it will lead into martial law, because a bunch of states, democratic states, are literally saying we're going to physically fight against you coming in here to take the illegals out of our state and send them out.
So they are pretty much prompting civil war situations in these states.
I think Colorado is one of them.
I don't know.
I don't want to say that absurd, but there are like five or six of these states that...
We are saying, we are going to send 30,000 police to protect the illegal immigrants.
And what's that going to lead into, man?
Because they already cut off all of the illegals' money, their credit card shit, all that free shit they were getting.
So, stoking fires.
And so, when they come in there, they're like, alright, we're going to take your illegals out, we're going to ship them back to Mexico.
No, that's not happening.
What do you think is going to happen, martial law?
What's the result of that?
Possibly. I mean, a large portion will likely leave just from not having the perks in the first place.
Right. It's actually kind of best to quit while you're ahead.
Take that big chunk of money you got and go back to somewhere where it's significantly more valuable.
Yeah. I mean, that was a really good vacation for them, you know?
I'm curious if...
Yeah, I was about to say, it's like Elon insulting everybody.
It's funny to bring him up, but I was reading one message that he put up today.
I'm curious if this stat is true, that 80% of the asylum seekers went back to their home country on the holidays if they went on vacation.
And I'm like, yeah, so much danger, huh?
They just go back to, they leave for a week and come back.
I mean, I have my doubts about that statistic, but still.
Yeah. If that isn't actually a real statistic, that like, 80% of the people who traveled went back to the homeland, that they're fleeing, supposedly.
Yeah, I call bullshit.
I call bullshit on that one.
I'm in danger.
Oh, you see, I was, the danger's gone now.
Oh, okay, but I need to come back.
Yeah. So, World War III, I don't know, it's happening.
We all know that Albert Pike wrote a letter to Manzini about World War III and 9-11.
September 11, 2001.
But, like, the three war part.
He wrote all of this out in the Mason's handbook, essentially.
Three world wars.
And it's going to be the third world war that's going to be the war to end all wars.
You know?
That's the end of it.
It's going to kill, like, 90% of the world's population.
Yep. Is what was talked about.
Oh, yeah.
The three world wars were predicted long ago.
And so, of course, that part will happen.
The real question is, how will it play out?
Because, obviously, this part of the iteration was unavoidable.
But the outcome of it is not necessarily set in stone.
Yeah, we don't know what areas are going to be these zones where most of this fighting is going to happen.
Will it get to the United States?
Will Russia send an ICBM to...
Where do you think an ICBM would strike?
The West Coast or the East Coast?
Or both?
I guess he would do both.
He'd probably do multiple hits.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, this is the chaos they're trying to make.
You don't...
You don't show everyone a plan unless you want it to be ruined.
Yeah, exactly.
So the idea is to break everything and try to make this out of whatever comes after.
Because everybody feels so clever having defeated this thing that was written out and everything.
And it's like, whoa.
Yeah, I'm sure there's no backup plan or anything.
You are frozen.
Oh, that sucks.
Figures. We are having issues.
Don't doubt figure.
Hello, hello, hello.
Is anybody out there?
Trying to reconnect.
Can you hear me?
There. You can hear me?
Well, I can hear you the whole time, but I wasn't getting through.
Alright, well, you're back.
So, what did you say?
Oh, I said that you don't show your plan unless it's intended to fail.
Oh, yeah.
I heard that.
The idea is to build up something out of the ruins of the plan while everybody's patting themselves on the back for defeating it.
Yeah. But I don't really know how well it's going to work at this point.
One trick is that the reason they wanted Kamala to win over Trump is because Kamala had significantly more I remember during COVID and stuff,
I don't remember a whole lot of conservative people actually being quiet during the BS.
They'll try to defend it and shit now.
But I remember most of them squeaking and complaining like hell back when it was happening.
And protesting.
It was the first time I'd ever seen a conservative protest.
When Kamala was cackling?
No, during the shutdowns.
When they went and protested for the stay-at-home orders and shit.
I'd never seen a conservative protest before then.
And you knew it was a conservative protest because they issued a letter calling it white nationalist terrorism or some shit.
Of course.
I just mean in terms of both sides have their completely captured members, but I found that even really moderately, Like,
leaning in that direction, followers of Kamala would still not dare deviate against anything.
Like, I've met plenty of Trump people who were like, no, I don't like that he did the vaccines and I don't like that he defends them.
But I've not seen a lot of other people who have that nuance with Kamala.
So I think that's the reason why, even though they would take either, they would have preferred her.
Like, in the end, they'll take either, but they'd always prefer the easier option.
Exactly. Hand over fist.
Well, yeah, World War III, I don't think he's gonna shoot a missile to San Francisco, so San Francisco is safe.
That is, like, the safe haven.
Because, you know, China owns that.
So, who's the president over there?
Because remember, it was discussing the streets are filthy homeless everywhere, and then the president, Shu, or whatever the fuck his name is.
Was coming over, and they, like, cleaned the fuck out of San Francisco.
Remember that shit?
It was a great example of what you could do when you actually wanted to get things done.
Yeah. And then after he left, just, like, immediately returned to its normal state of trash and homeless people.
We can't do anything about this homeless problem.
Except during these two weeks, then China's coming over.
Which clearly demonstrates that with very little budget, we could fix this all the time.
And maintain it easily.
They could probably give all of those people houses for less money than they spend on the bullshit pork.
Yeah. But San Francisco, man.
The political agenda there is...
It's a zoo, dude.
It's nuts.
I would not like to live there.
That place is just crazy.
Well, it's like a crazy almost like prototype anarcho-tyranny where anything goes.
It's like you're either in trouble for everything or you can get away with everything.
There's not really an in-between depending on who you are.
It would either really suck or be Well, actually, it tends to really suck even for the people to get favored.
Because that's the trick, is that that resentment boils over and it hurts people anyways.
Because the ultimate goal isn't compassion.
It's to get everybody fighting with each other in the guise of compassion.
And there's talk of what's going to happen with Kamala after all this shit goes down and Trump is in and all this nasty stuff happening.
But they're going to put Kamala...
As mayor or governor of California?
I mean, it would make sense, right?
I mean, I'd say that she could give up the line of being a whore and go back to being a respectable hooker.
Yeah, a respectable hooker.
Go back to some proper sex work instead of screwing us for a change, but nope.
Gotta keep on the trough.
Dude, imagine her as governor or mayor of San Francisco.
Yeah, it'd be ridiculous.
There'd be pride marches.
Every fucking day would be a pride march, for sure.
Well, I mean, the trick is it would be whatever corporate...
Sponsors wanted it.
She essentially serves as a template for whatever they want to load in to a particular place.
So it would just really be a matter of, well, what do my donors want?
Yeah. No, that is it.
That's exactly what it would be.
It's just it's backfiring now where attempts to do it at this point are instead of getting everybody fighting, it's just getting everyone turning against them, which was not the intention.
Yeah. It's kind of hard to control people, isn't it?
Yeah. It's almost like trying to socially engineer 8 billion people doesn't actually work when each person has individual control of reality.
Sucks, doesn't it?
Yeah. It's pretty hard.
Well, I mean, it's easier when you can convince people to give it up.
But let's move on here.
So the third news story, the ICC, what is that?
The International Criminal Court.
Criminal Court.
Yeah. International Criminal Court issues another arrest warrant for Netanyahu, his next minister advisor guy, Galant, and a bunch of other high-ranking Israeli officials.
Now, this is not the first time they've issued arrest warrants for Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.
I mean, there have been multiple, multiple of these issued to him.
But most recently, like...
Four or five days ago or something.
Warrants have been issued for Yoav Galant, Israel's former defense minister, and Mohammed Daif, Hamas' military chief, whom Israel says it killed in August.
The ICC chief prosecutor, Kareem Khan, is the one who put out the warrants.
On Thursday, President Joe Biden released a statement on the warrants issued by the ICC, saying, quote, Let me be clear once again.
Whatever the ICC might imply, there is no equivalence, none, between Israel and Hamas.
We will always stand with Israel against threats to its security.
Long live Netanyahu.
End quote.
What a fucking jackass, dude.
That sounds very erudite for Biden, honestly.
It does.
It really does.
So could we say that the wailing walls are closing in?
I had to.
It was good.
What the fuck?
He's supporting genocide and this is so disgusting.
So disgusting, dude.
I just have a lot.
I have zero faith that they'll catch him.
I feel like...
Yeah, that's it.
This just feels like some keyfabe, really.
Right. Like, we're gonna get you.
You're doing bad things.
Just you wait over there.
And him, he's like, I'm gonna travel internationally.
I decaf.
Yeah. Nothing ever happens.
Well, I can't say nothing ever happens because sometimes stuff does happen.
But they issued one on Putin in 2018 for crimes against humanity and all this shit.
I mean, they've issued a bunch of them to people.
Yeah, I see.
See, if the events before October 7th had actually played out, he may very well have actually run afoul of one of them, of arrest warrants, because the one thing that would not save him is if his own people gave him up.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly. But it did not work that way.
Without that support, I don't see how they ever get him.
That's the thing, because it's like, yeah, they issued so many warrants, but what does the ICC actually do?
Do they actually arrest these people?
And, I mean, they do.
They actually do.
Yeah, they do sometimes.
I mean, obviously they're not going to pluck them out of America.
We've made it pretty clear we're not helping.
Yeah, the U.S. is totally out of it.
U.S. and Israel, actually, are totally out of this thing.
Israel's a no-go.
So, 21 people have appeared before the ICC and were held at its detention center.
ICC judges have delivered 11 convictions and 4 acquittals, according to the court.
Charges against seven people have dropped because of their deaths, and 30 people are at large, the ICC says.
Because they have issued 59 arrest warrants, including Netanyahu, Gallant, Dieff, and these other high-ranking Israelis.
Right. You know, they could probably bust them at the Davos convention, but I'll bet they won't.
They could just arrest everyone that goes there, dude.
Like, anyone that goes to that Davos is a goddamn criminal.
Yeah, and I can pretty much bet that he'll get invited and go and not get busted.
Nothing will happen.
Because all of this is keyfabe.
He's too big of a player.
I mean, you don't see this.
But he's also acting up too much for them to not issue this strongly worded letter.
Right. This is more of like, hey man, you're kind of overstepping.
You've got to kind of pull the reins back a little bit.
That's basically all this is saying.
Reign it in, you know.
Could you not...
Let so much of it get out on the news.
You really have to stop murdering loads of people, man.
If you don't stop that, could you at least cover it up better?
Hide it, dude.
We taught you how to hide it.
We're pretty immoral, really.
We don't actually care, but you're making us look bad.
We care about our image.
Image is everything.
With the narcissistic.
It's all about the appearance of being good.
Oh, man.
Good God.
Anyway, we can move on now.
We can get into the show.
We can get into the show.
That's right.
You have a joke?
Yes. Of course I do.
I've got plenty of them.
All right.
Good. You want to throw one out right now?
Why not?
Here, I'll start off by saying this.
Necrophiles are just people looking for some body to love.
Alright? Alright.
Alright, yeah.
We'll be here all the rest of the two hours.
So, what is necrophilia?
Cricket, what the fuck is it?
Do you know what necrophilia is?
Oh, this is the perfect opportunity for the joke.
It's for the people who their lady says I'll wait for you forever and...
They say, why wait?
What the hell?
What the hell, man?
We could be together right now.
Together biblically.
Necrophilia, for those who don't know, is a psychological and a behavioral phenomenon.
It's classified into different types based on the motivations or the desires or the specific behaviors.
And although it's a highly taboo subject, researchers have attempted to categorize it to better understand the underlying psychology.
It's very fucking interesting.
Notably, psychiatrist Dr. Jonathan Rosman and criminologist Dr. Philip J. Resnick have developed one of the most well-known typologies in their 1989 study on the motivations of types of necrophilic acts.
And here's an overview of the main types.
Why don't you go ahead and read the first one, Cricket?
Just a musty little kink for those who can't think.
Alright, let's see.
Necrophilic fantasy.
Pseudo-necrophilia.
Description. Individuals with necrophilic fantasies are often interested in imagining or fantasizing about engaging in acts with the deceased, but do not actually carry out these acts in real life, so they're the non-offending necrophile.
Non-offending, yeah.
They might seek partners who will play dead during sexual activities, role-play scenarios involving death, or consume media that aligns with these fantasies.
I mean, it's not any weirder than Vore, I guess.
That's what my girlfriends know.
I mean, when we're having sex, I always play dead.
I do.
I play dead all the time.
I feel like there's a comment involving dead fish somewhere in here.
For those who want them to always be a dead fish.
I have a story of a dead fish.
Let's move on, though.
Motivation. Arousal often stems from...
Control, domination, or the idea of the ultimate unresponsive partner.
The ultimate unresponsive partner!
What the fuck is that?
The last one kind of reminds you that it's just like Sleeping Beauty, except she's not actually there anymore.
Dude, the ultimate unresponsive partner.
That's awesome.
That somehow makes this incredibly creepy concept even more creepy.
So that's the motivation, huh?
You get the arousal of the idea?
Yeah, so essentially you want to think about banging corpses.
But you don't do it.
You get grossed out by actually doing it, which I don't know.
It's still a little gross.
It's a lot of gross.
But we could rate that maybe like a 2 out of 5 on the disgust meter, just simply because we're going to be going a lot deeper here.
Much deeper.
So, here's number two.
Necrophilic homicide.
Okay? Description.
This is one of the most extreme and disturbing types where an individual actually kills someone to have and then have sexual contact with the corpse and do all sorts of fun things, right?
Behavior. The necrophilic element is secondary to the homicidal act, meaning the murder is committed with the specific intent to create a corpse For sexual purposes.
Goddamn. And the motivation?
Control, power, and sadistic urges are often driving forces, and the corpse is an object of dominance.
So, like, why not just order a creepy corpse stall?
Damn. Gotta have the real thing, dude.
Yeah, I was just thinking, that's what makes it the secondary, is, yeah, you're definitely deriving something from being...
A killer in the first place in that case.
It's just so nasty.
I don't know.
You can call him the no longer mortal beloved.
That's the ultimate unresponsive partner.
Well, you force them into the ultimate unresponsive.
Alright, let's see here.
Oh, here we have...
That one up there was more like a 5 out of 5. This was sort of like a 3 or a 4. We have regular necrophilia.
Necrophilic attraction.
You know, just...
For whom the bell tolls.
It tolls because you won't get offered.
Oh! Yeah,
your job.
So, yeah, I would imagine that this...
Fetish is probably pretty over-represented by people who work with that sort of thing, just simply due to that psychological bent of you want to be near it.
They seek employment environments where they have access to bodies.
Yeah, and I'm kind of in the stance of if you're a coroner or a medical examiner or something, I'm already suspicious.
You know what I'm saying?
Just a little.
Well, I mean, you want to work around dead bodies voluntarily.
It's weird.
As a field and chosen career.
Because that's the trick.
It's something that you can't really just jump into.
No. You'd be like the guy out there digging, but the actual morticians and stuff, that's a study.
That's a field you go into.
That requires real dedication.
So yeah, you're dedicated.
It's strange to have that sort of dedication to want to work with dead bodies.
The motivation, the desire for an unresisting and passive partner who cannot reject them, as well as the control and objectification of the deceased, is common on individuals.
Yeah. In this category.
Yeah. So, yeah, they want to work around dead bodies because...
They might get a chance to hook up with one of them.
Yeah, dude.
A lot of hotties go through there, you know?
A lot of hotties go through the morgue.
So, you know, if nobody's seen a dead body or, like, some of the most insane gore, like, just the old rotten dot com, for instance, anything like that, man, people rotting, just mangled in car accidents and things like that,
man, that shit's fucked up, dude, especially if a woman is pregnant.
Let's just say that.
And, dude, it's not just like, oh, here's a human body, and it's just like a dead guy laying there.
Nothing seems wrong with him.
He's just a normal human body, but he's dead.
A lot of the time, these bodies are fucking mangled, like I just said.
These corners get bodies brought in that are just, like, chopped into pieces.
Like I said, pregnant women.
Shit's fucked up.
It's not pretty, you know?
So... So the people out there listening to me were like, oh, it's not that bad.
It's just a dead body.
It's not just a dead body.
A lot of fucked up shit, man.
Just go look at some gore.
Gore videos.
I mean, look into what happens to you after you're deceased in terms of your bowels releasing alone.
That's already pretty damn disgusting.
It's so crazy.
I'm just...
You see those videos?
Because, you know, they have science.
You've got X number of feet of colon.
Yeah. They put bodies in fields to watch them deteriorate.
Let's see what happens.
And you can watch videos of this shit.
They do it with pigs.
I haven't seen it with a human.
I've seen it with pigs.
And it's fucking like, do a time lapse.
So it speeds up and you see it like, you know, it gets bloated and it kind of explodes and it goes, it shrinks down and it kind of melts and all these bugs are just constantly just feasting off of it.
It's pretty insane.
And someone out there is getting turned on right now by this.
Oh, dude, I bet so many listeners right now are just wet as fuck.
That's the stuff right there.
Oh, God.
This is definitely a kink episode for a lot of people.
So, what's the fourth one here?
The kink for the cemetery stink.
The fourth one here is romantic necrophilia.
Oh, the necromania.
So, this is the one about the not-so-immortal beloved.
Yeah, so in these cases, the person becomes fixated on a specific deceased individual with whom they feel an emotional connection, sometimes believing they are in a relationship with the deceased.
Have you ever seen...
Do they ever get in fights?
Do they ever argue?
Interesting question.
That's an amazing philosophical thought.
Dude, and he, like, loses control and, like, slaps her, right?
And he's like, oh, oh my god, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry.
And then hugs her.
I never...
I never mean to hurt you.
I never mean to hurt you.
It's like an eyeball rolls out of her head.
Yeah, there's a guy, Anatoly Moskvin.
Have you heard of him?
He collected dead bodies, girls, old and young, and he would bring them home and mummify them and have them around as dolls.
And he would eat with them at the dinner table and he had beds for them all.
Twenty-six girls, bro, they found in his fucking house.
Twenty... Twenty-nine.
Twenty-nine little girls dressed them like dolls and displayed them in his bedroom, and then he refused to apologize to the parents, because he would go out and dig them up out of the graves.
Oh, my God.
Like... Dude.
Yeah. We're talking young children, too, like ten, maybe even younger.
Yeah. Anatoly Moskvin.
Huge story.
We will cover this story, so I don't want to talk too much about it.
The corpse collector.
The corpse collector.
Yeah, you mummify all of them.
29 of them.
So the behavior, they might seek out the corpse of a past romantic partner or someone they had unrequited love for, or they might experience intense mourning that turns into physical affection toward the body.
Again, this is romantic necrophilia.
And the motivation behind it is just the attraction.
It's often rooted in a longing for a reunion, an inability to let go, or the desire to preserve a specific relationship beyond death.
And so whatever Anatoly Moskvin, his story is very fucked up.
His was along the lines of he developed a relationship with people who were already dead.
So, you know, it's like the ultimate I'll never get rejected at all if I do it this way.
I think he was like a psychologist or something too.
I wonder what the psychoanalysis is on somebody who keeps 29 corpses around a bag.
I'm going to look this up really quick so I don't want to be...
I don't want to say shit like that.
Oh yeah, so he was a Russian linguist, philologist, and historian.
And yeah, okay, he had 26 girls between the ages of 3 and 29. Good God.
Apparently he had paranoid schizophrenia.
So maybe they did talk to him.
Now there's a thought.
Did anybody ever ask him, like, you know, are you in a relationship with these gals?
Did they ever say anything to you?
Yeah, right?
Yeah, that's a weird one.
I feel like if I found a schizophrenic guy with 29 corpses in his house, that would literally be my first question.
Is, what did they say to you?
Like, he's gotta be talking to them.
I mean...
He's definitely having conversations with them, dude.
You know...
He was definitely talking to them.
Dude's schizophrenic.
He's talking to himself, so it's like...
I mean, at least he has a very healthy...
Yeah, at least he's got a very healthy self-esteem.
He apparently believes he deserves a harem of corpses that he doesn't know.
And he was nice with them.
He dressed them up, put makeup on them, and treated them like they were living.
Made them all...
Made them all fancy.
Well, that says to me that he was actually interacting with them as potentially living people in his mind.
As creepy as that all is.
Alright, so on to the next level of disgust.
I don't know exactly what this would rate.
Probably back down in the twos.
Because fetishistic is...
Just being interested in girl stuff.
So, fetishistic naturophylia.
Here the person is not necessarily interested in the corpse itself, but in items associated with death, like bones, body parts, or funerary items, which they use for sexual arousal.
So, you know, like somebody's urn?
Ew. Behavior.
They may collect items from deceased individuals, such as locks of hair, personal items, or even preserved body parts.
That's some hell of dedication.
Number six.
Yay! Opportunistic necrophilia.
Now, is it necrophilia?
How you're pronouncing it?
Am I pronouncing it wrong?
Necrophilia? Nah, it's a tomato-tomato thing.
Necrophilia, necrophilia.
I'm pretty sure they're both.
Acceptable pronunciations.
Alright. If not, I deem them acceptable.
I took English in college, so I get to do that now.
Perfect. So, opportunistic necrophilia.
Description. Opportunistic necrophiliacs typically do not seek out corpses for sexual interaction, but may take advantage of an opportunity if they encounter a deceased body.
All right, opportunistic, yeah, yeah.
So these individuals, they come across corpses in a specific work environment, like funeral homes, and act on an impulsive urge.
The act is often driven by sudden availability rather than premeditated desire, indicating a low impulse control rather than deep-seated necrophilic urges.
But my question on that is, how do you know it's that?
Because if it's premeditated, they took school to get to become...
Yeah. You know, a funeral home director guy.
Nothing premeditated, but they thought in advance that, hey, I'm just going to happen to work around a lot of dead people.
Oh, I just happen to have sex with one.
A lot of just happenings.
You've been going to work one day, and I was like, oh, man, wow, I've got a body here.
I've got to work on this today.
It's like, just, oh, availability.
Oh, what's this?
The corpse is whispering to me.
It says it wants me to do dirty things to it.
Oh, no, no, no, corpse.
I couldn't do that.
Okay, then.
No, corpse, quit grabbing me there.
Stop it, corpse.
No, oh, oh, corpse.
No, I will not make out with you.
So there you go.
Do you think they get rimmed or do the rimming?
I don't really know.
I feel like if they get it, they still have to do the majority of the work.
But at least you don't got to be concerned about their pleasure.
Yeah. Oh, dude, did you hear about this, though, before we move on?
Necrophiles and hippies are very similar.
They both want peace and love.
And that leads right into number seven, exclusive necrophilia.
Go ahead.
Go ahead, Cricket.
Exclusive necrophilia.
So, you know, this is designer necrophilia.
Alright, individuals in this rare category have a total preference for deceased partners to the point where they may be unable to engage in sexual relationships with living people.
So, these are the people who aren't simply why wait, these are the people who actually did wait.
Yeah. Okay.
Behavior. They may go to great lengths to access corpses, seek specific employment for access, or engage in extreme measures to fulfill their preferences.
I mean...
Kinda have to.
People aren't generally eager to let you have sex with bodies.
Dude, yeah.
It's like...
I wonder if there was a phone number you could call back in the day.
Necophilio's okay.
It's like, oh, hey, my fucking...
My grandpa just passed.
We had to call this number and they're like, alright.
Hey, we got a dead grandpa over here at 37 Boulevard.
You want to go have fun?
Have it be like the roadkill map.
Yeah. Come harvest it real quick.
Still fresh.
Jesus. Did you know like necrophilia is...
We're going to get into it.
Never mind.
Go ahead.
Okay, so, motivation for exclusive necrophiliacs, the attraction to the deaths, is a primary sexual orientation rather than a fetish or fantasy.
So, it's just straight up.
You love the dead.
I see dead people, I bang dead people.
It's so fucking hard for dead people.
Oh my god.
I want to bang this dead thing, because it's not the same thing as, like, just the people who just want to do stuff to inanimate objects, because...
These are formerly animate objects.
I just don't see it.
I don't know.
It's probably about the same as the scatological fetish.
People who eat shit and don't die probably can't really relate to people who don't really want that.
Yeah, that's also a very weird...
Fetish. We actually will be doing an episode on craziest fetishes, Cricket, so yeah, be prepared for that one.
Uh, yeah.
Well, let's talk about the psychological perspectives here.
So, most necrophiliac behavior stems from a complex blend of psychological factors, such as...
First one, fear of rejection.
Because what?
What's a corpse going to do, right?
A corpse cannot reject or respond, making them, quote-unquote, safe.
For partners, for individuals with deep-seated fears of rejection or control issues.
It's like a step above VR chat.
Control and power dynamics.
The corpse represents the ultimate passive partner, allowing for a complete exercise of dominance.
And, you know, all the motivation is on your end.
Ugh. And then the next one's fixation and mourning.
For some, necrophilia emerges as an extreme form of fixation on someone that they were deeply connected to.
So in that case, it's less of an attraction thing and more just like a weird emotional outpouring because of just an extreme level of grief being...
I don't know how it gets expressed that way, but there you go.
Yeah, that's weird, dude.
Did you hear the thing about Marilyn Monroe when she died?
Her body ended up missing for like 8 hours or something with a bunch of Secret Service agents.
I mean...
So what do you think happened there?
It'd be like ideal time.
Yeah, pretty incredible.
It seems around 100% chance that that didn't end or that was probably better that she was not alive for all of that.
Oh man, poor woman.
Poor woman, dude.
Alright, so now let's jump into the...
Into this eye-opening.
What's this article?
What is this?
British hospitals where a worker had sex with a hundred corpses failed to protect those it cared for.
I feel like that's the world's most understated title.
Like, okay, you know, you beg one or a dozen or even 50 corpses.
That's one thing.
But a hundred?
This is right out.
Yep. Yeah, let's get the yellow slip.
The necrophilia of an electrician who was later convicted of two murders went undetected for 15 years.
That's... What the fuck, right?
So a British government-ordered inquiry found serious failings at hospitals where an electrician who was later convicted of murder had been able to have sex with more than 100 corpses over a 15-year period without being detected by anyone, according to a report issued Tuesday.
Nuts, dude.
How? How'd he do this?
Well, David Fuller's necrophilia was uncovered in 2020 when police used DNA to tie him to the 1987 slayings of two women and also discovered millions of images of sexual abuse in his home.
Oh, millions?
Holy fuck.
Wow. The images included videos of him having sex with the bodies of women and girls in the mortuaries at two hospitals where he worked in Southeast England.
So he filmed himself.
Dude, hold on for a second, bro.
Millions of images.
Not just a million.
Multiple millions of images.
We're at this motherfucker's home.
So yeah, he recorded tons himself and then collected more.
That's nuts, dude.
Wow. Fuller69 is serving a life sentence with no chance of release after pleading guilty to two counts of murder.
He is serving a concurrent 12-year term after admitting dozens of instances of necrophilia that the prosecutor in this case said had never been seen on that scale before in a British court.
Yikes, dude.
So, he allegedly killed Wendy Nell, 25, and Caroline Pierce, 20, in two separate attacks in the town of Tunbridge Wells in 1987.
Those crimes wouldn't be solved for 33 years.
After he moved on to work at the Tunbridge Wells Hospital in Pembury as an electrician, apparently.
Whoa. Yeah.
So, he committed 140 violations against the dead bodies of at least 101 girls and women aged 9 to 100 between the years of 2005 and 2020.
Wow. Whoa!
Very indiscriminate.
Dead corpse pallet.
That's very disturbing.
Yeah. Incredibly disturbing.
Have you ever heard anything like that?
Not with this level of documentation.
I've heard of people getting caught doing this, but never would somebody literally record every instance of themselves doing it.
And you know, when this article was released, it was published November 28th, 2023.
This is like a new case.
And he wasn't intending on being caught.
He just recorded it.
2020, man.
It all came out in 2020.
He wanted to save it for himself.
Yeah, millions of images.
So, the inquiry led by Jonathan Michael, a former NHS chief executive, made 17 recommendations including that surveillance cameras be installed in the mortuary and post-mortem room and that non-mortuary workers and contractors be accompanied to the mortuary with another staff member.
Fuller was brazen in committing his crimes, taking risks during working hours when other employees were in the mortuary.
The inquiry said it could not determine how he had been able to carry out the abuse.
Wow. It remains hard to believe, not only that he took the risk of offending during normal mortuary working hours, but that this was unnoticed by the mortuary staff,
who... We are told we're actually present in the department, report said.
Unless they were, you know, all participating and then afterwards, oh, this guy had sex with corpses?
Well, you better look into that.
Sounds more like a ring.
What a bad, bad man.
Let's get him out there.
Look at him.
He's a bad guy.
He's the fall guy, dude.
This is definitely a ring, you know?
Yeah, because what I'm hearing here is that this could not have been hidden.
No. This dude's just a maintenance worker.
No way now.
Fuller, who would occasionally have to perform maintenance on the refrigeration system in the mortuary, routinely entered the department as many as 444 times in one year without being properly questioned, the inquiry said.
Dude. I mean, as suspicious as that would sound, at the same time...
If you're a janitor, people really don't ask a whole lot of questions about you going anywhere in a bliss.
It's kind of true, man.
You kind of look right past those guys and you're just like...
As long as you're pushing a bucket and you look like you're on your way to clean something.
Yeah, right.
You have a purpose.
Yeah, most people don't actually want to, you know, help with that, so they don't want to talk to you.
Yeah, right.
So if they question you, you're like, oh, sweet, you want to join in and go clean the shit?
Fuller said he selected his victims by viewing a logbook, so you just look in a book, like, oh, hey, look at that one.
And he would avoid those who died of an infection or something like COVID-19.
So he made sure his victims were, like, you know, not all fucked up, had diseases.
Wow. Remember, aged between 9 and 100.
Not some savage corpse defile here.
I have standards.
I have standards!
Yeah, dude, the other people are like, yeah, he has standards.
They look up to this guy.
Yeah, I was about to say, the rest of the ring's like, he makes us look so gross.
He's got so much honor about it.
Wow. So nuts.
Well, about the legality, I mentioned that earlier.
Let's get into this.
So, in the United States, laws regarding necrophilia differ among those states.
As of November of 2024, get this, dude, Nebraska, New Mexico, Kentucky, and Vermont still do not have specific legislation making necrophilia illegal.
Wow. So, if you have a corpse, You can fuck it all you want.
Nothing says freedom.
Nothing says freedom more than fucking a corpse!
Nothing says freedom like carrying your marriage into the afterlife.
You know what?
Hey, dude.
Look at the vows, right?
It's like...
Till death do us part, whatever.
So if you're married and your wife dies or your husband dies, don't you have kind of the right to do things for a bit?
I mean, in Nebraska, New Mexico, Kentucky, and Vermont, you do.
Nah, you gotta be hand-fasted.
That way it's death doesn't part, only lack of love.
And obviously, if you're banging that corpse, you're still in love.
Yeah. You're like, nope, sorry, you can't get out of this with death.
This is nuts.
Oh, Jesus.
So last year in New Mexico, the State House and Senate unanimously approved the Bestiality Bill, which Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham signed into law after some brief contemplation.
I learned so many things on this that I really wish I could unlearn.
Yo, dude, Michelle was like, hey, they put this on her desk, like, hey, what do you think about this law?
Should we sign it?
And she's like, oh, let me look at it.
The bestiality bill.
Hmm. Oh, jeesh.
Sheesh, Louise.
I don't know.
She wants discussion.
I don't know.
Let's discuss it with my pet real quick.
I don't know.
Can we put this on hold for a while?
Can we talk about this next year, maybe?
But yeah, she did sign it.
So earlier this year, 2024, new laws making necrophilia illegal in Michigan were signed into law by none other than Governor, I staged my own kidnapping with the FBI, Gretchen Whitmer.
So, sorry Michigan people, you cannot fuck corpses anymore.
She may still allow you to stage necrophilia.
As long as it's not real.
The real fun is over.
Done. No more, man.
I'd just keep slamming the doors shut on their kinks, don't they?
I'll tell ya.
The new loss in Michigan would make the sexual penetration of a corpse a felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison.
Now, lower levels of sexual contact with a dead body, such as intentionally touching certain areas for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification, would become a misdemeanor that carries penalties of up to two
years
Jeez. 500 bones.
Ugh. Oh, I was just thinking, a lot of times, kind of like the warning labels you see on packages and stuff, there's a story behind laws like this.
There certainly are.
You want to read this?
Okay. Melody Roarer, 64, was murdered in Van Buren County.
Colby Martin would later be convicted of first-degree murder, with authorities saying Martin, who is a complete stranger to Melody Rohrer, deliberately hit her with his truck while she was out for a walk before taking her body and sexually abusing it.
Jesus, man.
I think I remember that in the news.
So this would be all the level fives, the homicidal necrophiles.
Alright, according to Richard Rohrer...
Though prosecutors believe Martin abused Melody Rohrer's corpse, they could not charge him with any sexual offenses because she was already dead when the alleged contact took place.
In 1995, the Michigan Court of Appeals concluded that sexual abuse legislation in the state requires a live victim at the time of the attack.
Though prosecutors believe Martin abused Melody Rohrer's corpse, yeah, so couldn't do anything about it, though.
Let's see.
Elsewhere in the country, a Texas man was sentenced to 40 years in prison in September 2020 when a court concluded he planned to murder and eat a child after posting on the dark web that he wanted to try necrophilia and cannibalism.
Well, I sense that you announcing you wanted to try those things kind of would involve doing those things.
Yeah, so Texas, we have to get into that article, right?
The guy that wanted to murder and eat a child?
Let's get into this article.
So, Texas man arrested for plotting rape, murder, and cannibalization of girl on dark web.
There's a dark web!
Ooh, spooky!
October 25th, 2018.
So, a Texas man, 21-year-old Alexander Nathan Barter, was caught by an undercover investigator allegedly prowling the dark web for a victim.
On which he could carry out his fantasies of engaging in necrophilia and cannibalism.
Alexander posted an advert making the request.
He stated, quote, I'd like to try necrophilia and cannibalism and see how it feels to take a life if you'd be willing to let me kill you.
Are you in the US?
Preferably in the South.
I can travel by car.
Contact me.
End quote.
Wow. How in the hell do you even post that thinking you aren't going to get some kind of fucking visit?
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I know there are those cannibalism chat boards.
That's true.
There's people who criticize it and, like, fantasize about it.
Yeah. As long as you're not actually eating people, they can get away with it.
Let me see.
Cannibalism chat boards.
I'm just looking at the clear net.
Let's see.
Yeah, they're everywhere.
Cannibalism forum?
Pick this out.
I'm gonna click this.
Oh my god.
Should we eat our American neighbors?
Alright. That's the first post here on the topic.
Should we eat our American neighbors?
Questions by Mark Noble.
Sorry. It's a cannibalism board, so I feel like they could just sum it up to definitely.
This was posted on June 30, 2010 by Mark Noble.
44 replies, 15,054 views.
Is it right or wrong to commit an act of cannibalism on our neighbor?
Same question.
If it is a North American neighbor, thank you and have a splendid day.
Mark. We get a response.
Well, when I tell you to eat me, it's only a figure of speech.
If my neighbors were made of vegetables, I'd do it.
Is this a philosophy question or one that is in the category of food and recipes?
I'm so confused.
Or is he having a hard time interpreting his girlfriend's signals and he doesn't...
Does he want me to eat her?
I don't know.
I want to see if Mark...
If Mark ever replies.
I don't think he ever replies to anything.
He probably went and tried to eat his friggin' neighbor afterwards.
He's like, well, I got so much encouragement, obviously I need to go do this.
So it probably ended with him being arrested.
Yeah, well, he probably went over there to do it, and then his neighbor just fucking killed him.
He's like, what the fuck?
Well, that could be, too.
Like, the neighbor could have just whooped his butt because he was a total wuss and didn't realize he was going to attack a dude three times his size.
Yeah, dude.
Who knows?
What a weirdo.
But the local morgue was clearing out old bodies.
A bunch of necrophiles showed up.
How did I know there were necrophiles?
It was a dead giveaway.
That's a good one.
That was alright, huh?
That was pretty good.
Not too bad.
Alright, where are we here?
Okay. The request was spotted by a special agent with the Texas Department of Public Safety, according to an affidavit.
The agent replied, offering up his troubled, underage daughter to Nathan, who replied, Nice!
I'm in East Texas.
How old is your daughter?
Can we kill her?
He then went on in detail about what he would do to the girl.
I should have done that in that weird voice.
Nice. I am in East Texas.
Okay. Is that too much?
That's too much.
Probably a little bit much, but you know what?
Fuck it.
Roll with it.
Okay, so together they hatched a plan.
Embrace the shtick.
Embracing the shtick.
Together they hatched a plan over email to take this girl, a hypothetical girl, to a hotel in Joaquin, Texas under the guise of a hiking trip.
Before they would go on and rape and murder her, and then have sex with a dead body, and then eat it when they were finished.
Now you can only imagine how excited Nathan was.
He's like, I think you've got the murder and rape out of order.
According to the Epoch Times, Nathan is the one who told the agent to buy a burner phone, bring a change of clothes, and also to report his daughter as a runaway after they were finished with everything.
Jesus Christ, man, there are people who do this shit.
Quote, yeah, Nathan said, quote, I'm not going to change my mind about this.
I really want to do this.
End quote.
My God.
Yeah. When Nathan got all his things together and was leaving his house for the trip, that is when the FBI made their move.
When they searched Nathan's pockets, they found that he was carrying a plastic bag and a knife just as he said he...
He would in an email exchange with the agent.
It was a big setup.
So he's like, I'm going to be carrying one knife and one plastic bag.
So at one point in these stings did these people start realizing maybe I might be getting set up.
Like it's too easy, right?
It's too easy, you'd think.
I guess it's just a part of being so delusional.
You just kind of think, oh, this is totally normal that this is going so smoothly and nobody's giving me any pushback or telling me I'm a deranged psychopath or anything.
This is normal.
This is how things go.
It's like it seems strange to us, but then again, we're not on the dark web posting wanting to kill people, so I don't know if you can necessarily fully understand.
Yeah. I guess there's just that edge that these guys would go over, girls or whatever would go over.
Because there's got to be just like a point where you know you're like a normal person.
There's a point where you're like, stop, I'm not doing this.
I'm not going past this.
My behavior is out of control.
Then there are other people who are like, oh god, I really just want to go over that edge.
And then they go over that edge.
Like, oh, I don't want to go over that edge.
Like I just did.
Oh, damn, went over the edge.
What do I do now?
I guess I'll have sex with this corpse.
Oh no!
Alright, so let's get into the international.
What's going on internationally?
What's up with necrophiles and the practice of necrophilia on the international scale?
What do the other countries think about the practice?
Probably the same equal measure of vomit and passive acceptance depending on the crowd.
I don't think there's really going to be a lot of middle ground there where people are like, I have a casual acceptance of necrophilia.
I think some countries...
As a whole, there might be a few places where it's tolerated, but even in those places, I doubt that's the dude who you'd necessarily invite over.
No. No, and damn, yeah.
It's like a lot of other borderline nasty-ass fetishes and such where, yeah, it's accepted in the country where they won't overtly arrest you, but they might cut you out of the invite list next year.
If you bust that out in front of everybody.
Let's get into a lack.
The lack of specific necrophilia laws may be more common in countries where certain crimes or moral transgressions weren't codified directly but instead fall under broader prohibitions.
And, like, in the United States, in the States that I mentioned earlier, like, it's not illegal necrophilia, but if you have a body and you're doing something to it, it's desecration of a corpse.
So that is the crime you would be charged with.
And probably some other shit.
So what if you argued I was really respectful and romantic?
I didn't desecrate her at all.
Yeah, I mean, okay, so yeah, your wife died, and you were like, well, let's have sex one more time, and then you put...
You know, you're...
Put your pee-pee, inner VV, and...
Whispers of sweet nothings that do not get required.
Oh my god.
You're like really close to her ear, just like...
Oh, it's just like you were sick yesterday.
Except a little quieter than yesterday.
Yeah. Anyway, yeah, so...
It's not like it's legal.
You're not going to get away with it in those states.
You know what I mean?
There are other crimes related to necrophilia.
So you might not get busted with necrophilia, but desecration of a corpse.
I mean, honestly, anybody who's banging corpses is probably really not too concerned about the overall level of acceptance of their neighbors.
Well, you know.
You've long since abandoned that.
Is it okay if I go kill and eat my neighbor?
Yeah, is it okay to eat our neighbors?
Just throwing that out there.
They're Americans.
I'm not really sure.
They might be delicious.
That might make it okay.
Yeah, right?
If it's palatable, it's fine.
But if it tastes horrible, it's not okay.
Be like, my neighbor was gamey and that makes it a sin.
Ew. Sorry, some of these countries where it's more tolerated, I guess I could say.
So, Russia.
Russia does not have a specific law against necrophilia.
Now, while the act itself might not be directly prosecutable, Russian law prohibits the desecration of corpses and graves, which would typically be used to charge someone engaged in necrophilic behavior.
Yeah, just like Russia.
I can't resist.
In Mother Russia, corpse bangs you.
So, other certain European countries like Switzerland.
So, Switzerland lacks an explicit anti-necrophilia law.
However, offenders can be charged under laws that prohibit the desecration or service of a corpse.
Denmark, similarly, does not have direct necrophilia law, but again, mistreatment laws of a corpse.
So let's go to the Middle East and North African countries.
In many Middle Eastern and North African countries, criminal codes focus on general decency laws and religious guidelines rather than specific particular acts like necrophilia.
Well, that really begs the question of would they make exceptions for marital partners then?
Yeah, I'm sure they do.
Like, hey, this is my wife's corpse, okay?
I'm sure they do.
We are still in the bonds.
Yeah. Her soul has not left her body yet.
It's still in there.
It's not all gone.
I need to knock the rest of it out.
I need to pump that thing out.
Saudi Arabia.
Although necrophilia isn't specified in the penal code, Islamic law strictly prohibits desecration of bodies, so offenses would likely be charged under moral or religious transgressions.
Don't do it.
God says no.
South and Southeast Asia.
Thailand does not have explicit laws against necrophilia, but has strict prohibitions against improper treatment of corpses.
Violations involving corpses are prosecuted under indices.
Indonesia, same thing.
Let's see, Japan does not have specific law criminalizing necrophilia, desecration of corpses.
It's all the same thing.
Africa. So be tasteful about it, guys, if you go to these places.
Be very tasteful.
Very respectful.
Make sure to marry it first.
In many African countries, including Nigeria and Kenya, no explicit necrophilia laws.
Again, decency laws apply.
Egypt, same fucking thing.
India, same fucking thing.
Latin America, so Argentina, same thing.
Brazil. Same thing.
So yeah.
No laws against necrophilia, but all about the treatment and desecration of the corpse.
So, is putting your penis in your wife's vagina desecrating her corpse?
That's the question.
I mean, it's kind of a valid question there.
I will gladly accept the word of the corpse that it has been violated.
Look, if the corpse is the victim, then let's hear out the victim.
Yeah. The victim says no comment.
It's such a hardcore, restrictive society.
They end up putting the corpse in jail.
Oh my god, yeah.
She wouldn't talk.
Even put handcuffs on it and shit.
Oh fuck.
Rigor mortis had just set in, so they had to throw it into the backseat of the car, all handcuffed.
Just stiff as fuck.
And then finally, after a few hours, Usable again?
So show yourself, man.
Alright, place a man in a morgue, he'll try to leave.
Okay? Place a doctor in a morgue, he'll go to work.
Place a necrophiliac in a morgue, he'll stay happy for a week.
That's supposed to be a joke.
Why only a week?
Yeah, he'll be happy forever until he's booted out of there.
Yeah, until he's done.
Dude, I wonder how long they would...
I know there's some nasty guys out there, right?
And women too, but how long until the corpse is not fuckable anymore?
You know?
I mean, imagine the schizophrenic guy.
Honey, you've changed.
Oh! Honey, I think you lost weight.
Parts of your face are starting to melt off.
I'm starting to see exposed bone.
I'm starting to think...
I've got some regrets here.
Those regrets come in the form of sepsis.
Yeah. Ew.
This other user of Worst Jokes Over name is Incest.
He says, Kenny was into incest until his mom died.
Now, he's into necrophilia.
These jokes.
Do you think necrophiliacs like to use the Ouija board?
Well, yeah, I mean...
How else are you going to have a conversation?
They went to an alcoholic and a necophiliac have in common.
They both like to pop open a nice cold one.
Okay, I like that one.
Their favorites are age to perfection and a wooden cast.
That one's top shelf right there.
Quality necophiliac.
That's a good one.
They're hard to come by.
Honestly. I used to be a necrophiliac until some rotten cunt spat on me.
Ew! Ew!
Oh, that's pretty good.
Too graphic.
Oh my god.
Okay, where are we in this?
Okay, oh yeah.
International necrophilia.
So to be noted, though, to be noted, in many countries, the lack of specific statutes on necrophilia doesn't imply that it's condoned or even overlooked.
Instead, local legal systems may approach crimes involving necrophilia indirectly by charging offenders into laws against desecrating corpses, violating public morals, or offending community and religious values.
Countries with religious legal foundations may consider such acts as harem.
Yeah, that's pretty horrible.
That's pretty horrible.
Yeah, I feel like, you know, in those cases, when you consider all the things that are prohibited, why in the hell would you think that would be the one exception that's allowed?
They're like, oh, so you can't eat all these things, you can't touch these things.
But we can ban corpses, right?
No! Obviously no!
Like, what the hell?
How is that even a question?
Doctor, I've had sex with a client.
Well, that's not necessarily wrong.
I married a former patient myself.
Yes, but I'm a mortician.
Alright, so what do you think is the most common...
This has nothing to do with necrophilia, but what do you think is the most common animal that's used in bestiality?
Hmm. The memes would say sheep.
I have to look this up.
But I wouldn't know.
So... Because I don't contribute to that statistic.
So I don't know where it's at.
Someone asked this question.
Did a breed of dog bred specifically for bestiality ever exist?
I want to see some answers.
Yeah, I'm over 18. Let's see.
I want to see.
I don't feel like the age restriction protects you.
This information is damaging at any age.
It really is.
Yeah, dude, that's kind of funny.
I never thought about that.
People breeding animals, like making the perfect animal for sex.
That's weird.
Like the Bugs Bunny version.
Like the sexy animal, though.
So here we have...
Let's look at this article from news24.com.
Let's see.
This isn't nearly as rare.
Writing in the 1940s, famed sexual researcher Alfred Kinsey estimated that 8% of men and 3.6% of women had engaged in some sort of sexual act with an animal.
Pretty sure it's higher than that.
A later study by Morton M. Hunt in 1974 put the prevalence of men and women having intimate relations with animals at 4.9 and 1.9 respectively.
Risk factor?
Penile cancer?
I mean, it sounds low until you consider that means there's like a few hundred million animal fuckers on the planet.
Yeah, right?
So it's actually not that low.
It's pretty crazy.
So a study in Brazil said 34% prevalence amongst bestiality in men.
Most were in rural backgrounds.
It was a risk factor for penile cancer.
So, don't fuck animals.
You can get...
You get dick cancer!
I mean, on top of, like, you know, trying to bag something significantly bigger than you, it could potentially just kill you.
I can't find, like, the most common animal.
Large, wild animals are kind of capable of defending themselves.
Nature tends to make them that way.
That's why they didn't die before you got there and tried to fuck them in the ass.
Why would anyone want to have sex with an animal?
So, I don't know.
This is saying other farm animals such as donkeys, sheep, camels, and chickens are also popular choices amongst dogs.
Like, what do you think?
Like, fucking a cat.
I don't think people are out there fucking cats.
I mean, there are.
Actually, there's a fucking video on Twitter I just saw the other day.
This fucking dude was...
I was going to mention the Twitter video.
A cat!
Poor fucking cat, man.
Yeah, I'm gonna hope that's not commonplace.
Why won't these articles say what animals are most commonly used?
Dogs and horses.
This one looks more medical.
Horses. You could be killed.
Again, large animals.
Sociology compass.
Large mammals that outsize and overpower you might not be the smartest things to bang.
Alright, hey, we have clinical literature right here.
Alright, so...
Bestiality, an overview and analytic discussion by John C. Navarro, Richard Tuskberry.
Published in 2015.
So, abstract.
Individuals who experience sexual and emotional attractions to animals are widely considered deviant in American society.
Such a condition is frequently referred to as bestiality and zoophilia, which in fact describe two separate types of sexual behaviors.
Oh, it does?
I didn't know that.
It does?
A multitude of studies, I guess so, a multitude of studies have uncovered a range of prevalence rates across different demographic groups, which may vary due to the terminology and type of data collected collection
utilized. Dogs and horses.
Weird. This whole thing is weird.
It is questionable whether one's sexual orientation corresponds with the preference of the sex of the animal.
Those engaged...
Is it just like necessity or opportunity or whatever?
That's just what's there.
It's more common.
Is a male more common?
Or is it just a dominance thing?
Right. Maybe they're not doing it because of gratification reasons, but because they want to dominate the animals.
Wow. I'm sure that's part of it dude.
I'm sure that's definitely part of it.
Those engaged in human-animal sexual contacts vary in their reasoning behind their sexual behavior with animals, which are generally environmentally or belief-based, and reinforce certain myths.
Since the development of the internet not only has it promoted an enhanced research perspective of the sexual behaviors of bestialists and zoophiles,
But they have also found an environment populated by like-minded individuals with similar sexual behaviors.
Alright, well that's the answer.
Dogs and horses.
Most preferred.
And male.
Male dogs and horses.
Interesting. And now...
You could never unknow that.
Never unknow that.
And, I mean, I've talked about it before.
I'll just say it again here.
Like, when I was in Amsterdam with my buddy, we were at this bar in this...
Cute-ass bartender who ran the bar.
She was there every night.
She pulled her phone out and was showing this video to all these guys on the opposite end of the bar.
Everyone was just laughing.
She was going around showing everyone.
Everyone just started laughing.
Eventually, she comes over to us and she's like, check this out.
It's the video of that horse who fucks that guy and the guy eventually dies because it bursts his insides.
It just fucked him up.
Yeah. Everyone was just laughing about it.
My friend and I were just like, holy fuck, dude.
We laughed.
We had to laugh.
We didn't want to be like, yeah, you guys are weird.
Storm out of there, right?
Did you ever see that video, dude?
No, I think I'll pass.
I don't need to see that one.
I've heard the description of it a couple of times and thought, yeah, I'm not looking for that.
Yeah, it's pretty rough, dude.
Yeah, just ruptured that dude's insides.
He fucking died.
And that horse was looked at as a god.
That's a valuable lesson to all of us about, again, these things are significantly bigger than you.
So much more powerful.
Oh my god.
That's why it's like dogs and horses.
I feel like the dogs would be a little safer.
Maybe not too much safer, depending on the dog.
I've heard stories or there's other footage of US soldiers in Afghanistan and it's night vision and they're looking at this farm and there are these two boys or I think it's just one boy and he's totally just going he's fucking the sheep.
And I read somewhere that it's like expected in some of these Muslim countries some of these Middle Eastern countries to have sex with sheep before you are an adult you know like 16 or whatever.
It's almost expected of you to do that.
Oh yeah.
I mean there's There's some places where...
I don't remember exactly where it was, but they injected sheep in this one spot with herpes just to keep the locals from banging them.
Oh my god.
When you gotta give STDs to your animals to keep the locals from banging them, that's a pretty widespread problem.
That's fucked up, dude.
But here's something really interesting, alright?
With all of that said, let's quickly talk about those cute and cuddly little Adele penguins.
Is it Adele or Adele?
Probably Adele.
Seems like a perfect time to seg into this.
After the long discussion of bestiality.
I was not planning on talking about bestiality, but with that said, let's talk about those cute and cuddly little Adele penguins.
Aren't those things just adorable?
I like those things.
Wait, Adele penguins?
Yeah. What are Adele penguins?
These little penguins are like maybe three feet tall, four feet tall or something.
Huh. Yeah.
You haven't seen an Adele penguin?
I just never heard of an Adele penguin.
It's where Adele got her name.
Took her name from.
Huh. I mean, I don't know that.
I'm just assuming.
Yeah, look up a picture of one.
I'm just imagining them looking like the penguins from Surf's Up because that's what I think of when I think of penguins.
I don't know.
I haven't seen that.
Go look up a picture of a Nadelle.
Alright. Let's see.
This is like the standard little penguin.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, Adelie.
Adelie? Yeah, Adelie.
Adelie? I think so, because there's a little accent mark on the top.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, just the standard ones.
Yeah, those little guys.
The ones that you see in all the documentaries.
Yeah. Yeah, the typical little fucking, and then they have the penguin.
This beautiful earth all around us.
We see the Adelie penguins.
You know, that guy.
I miss those documentaries.
They're pretty good.
So anyway, now that you remember what Adelie looks like, you know, those little lovely little creatures sent from heaven, right?
This isn't going to end with someone banging one of them, is it?
Well, actually, it turns out that they actually practice necrophilia.
Allegedly. I have to say allegedly.
I don't want to get sued.
I mean, the Adele penguin lobby will come after your ass.
Yeah, they're pretty bad.
So, yeah, and they aren't bothered with homosexuality either.
Or chick abuse or anything.
Allegedly. So apparently, the sex behaviors of the Adelie penguins were documented by a British surgeon on Scott's 1910 Antarctic expedition, and as the legend goes, the findings were thought to be so shocking and depraved that they were hidden for a hundred years.
Now, to be fair, I asked the question to ChatGPT, who, you know, lots of fallacies.
Lot of fallacies.
Holy hell, dude, it's ridiculous how fucking just...
Wrong, ChadGBT is.
Anyway, it came back at me with some real attitude and told me that that story is false and sensationalized.
The all-knowing GPT said that the surgeon, Scott, and the rest of the crew were simply mistaken by the penguins' behaviors, noting that the penguins were most likely, quote, scavenging, end quote, and, quote, likely had no sexual or reproductive motives in these interactions,
but rather...
We're responding to environmental pressures and instincts.
End quote.
I got a feeling that these researchers probably know when penguins are fucking things.
Yeah. They definitely saw some Adelis fucking dead Adelis.
Just a thought.
It's hard to mistaken this for scavenging.
Yeah, I'm scavenging their vagina.
It's ridiculous.
That sounds like some ChatBTGTT bullshit there.
Yeah, and it was.
It was complete.
I had to correct it so many times that it's like, oh yes, you are correct.
I'm sorry, I was wrong.
It's like, oh my god, who am I talking to?
It's ridiculous.
Anyway, I'm going to skip all this because there's a lot here.
Let's skip this.
Alright, so yeah, a lot of birds also like necrophilia and dolphins also get down, you know?
Get down on those dolphins.
Oh, dude, the fucking CIA and shit paid a bunch of money to watch dolphins fuck and, like, do other sexual things.
Or this guy, or this woman, or something like that, they were studying dolphins and, like, masturbating them and, like, getting down.
He got caught fucking a dolphin and went to prison or some shit.
I always wonder how many of those studies are just people getting paid to live out their fetish.
Right. Exactly, dude.
So dolphins get down, lions get down, and all sorts of amphibians and insects and what have you.
So this brings us to Karen Greenlee.
Alright, so now let's get into infamous Karen Greenlee.
Have you ever heard of her?
I have a feeling I'm going to regret learning about her.
Alright, this is an awesome case, dude.
Karen Greenlee was born in 1953 in California, where she grew up in a dysfunctional family environment.
Reports suggest that she had a somewhat isolated childhood with early signs of psychological distress.
Greenlee's upbringing was not marked by significant trauma, but she experienced emotional difficulties and psychological turmoil as she matured.
This tumultuous upbringing contributed to her later behavioral patterns.
As a teenager, Greenlee became interested in the funeral and mortuary business, which led her to pursue a job as an apprentice embalmer at Paris Valley Mortuary in Paris, California.
The mortuary work exposed her to the dead in the process of embalming, and it's here that her necrophilic tendencies began to manifest.
Just unleashed.
As if they were already manifesting, and this is just where they became known to everybody.
Yeah. So, in 1972, when Greenlee was just 19 years old, just a little chicklet, she became involved in one of the most shocking necrophilia cases in U.S. criminal history.
While working at the mortuary, she developed an intense sexual attraction to a dead man named John Henry, who had recently died in a car accident.
Greenlee was assigned the task of transporting John Henry's body to his funeral.
On the day of the funeral, she loaded his body into the funeral home's hearse, intending to deliver it to the service.
It's regularly said that when she neared the funeral service and saw the deceased man's family, she got cold feet and flipped a bitch and brought John Henry's body to a secluded place, which is unknown, which is also where she started to perform necrophilia on his corpse.
But... Others say that it was preplanned, which seems more plausible because regardless, she had clearly been thinking about doing something with his corpse.
Otherwise, she wouldn't have flipped a 180 when she got close to the funeral.
She was obviously thinking about something.
You get cold feet delivering a corpse, so you just think, well, now I have to have sex with this corpse.
Makes perfect logical sense.
Definitely not preplanned.
So, according to her statements, she was overwhelmed by the sight of the mourning family and realized the inappropriateness of her feelings.
This is...
Yeah. So then she had to act them out.
Yeah. You know, I have to work these feelings out now that I realize how inappropriate they are.
And that's when I banged your corpse.
I'm sorry.
This moment of hesitation led her to turn away from the funeral procession, abandoning her original plan.
Once she was finished doing what she did to the body, she returned the body to the funeral home.
Greenlee's actions did not go unnoticed.
Only hours later, on December 28, 1972, she was arrested after stealing the body of John Henry and engaging in necophilic acts.
The mortuary actually discovered the body was missing, and authorities were able to track Greenlee down after the search.
Greenlee was apprehended while driving the funeral home's hearse, which still contained the body of John Henry.
So... After she had been fucking him.
So she just casually loaded it back up after she was done?
I think she just fucked him in the hearse.
And just thought, well, maybe if I just bring him back, maybe no one will notice.
No one's gonna notice.
So... I mean, this means that despite driving back to the funeral home to drop off his body, she again got cold feet and flipped another bitch.
This is when the authorities finally caught up with her and she was arrested for the abduction of a corpse, which was a felony at the time.
The abduction of a corpse.
Can't go around stealing corpses, man.
I got cold feet.
I had to steal the corpse.
I didn't know how to react.
She very quickly admitted to engaging in sexual acts with the body, like right out of left field.
Which shook the police, obviously.
Like, you're fucking kidding us.
Don't fuck around.
During her interrogation, Greenlee openly admitted to her actions and gave a detailed account of the crime.
She described her sexual attraction to the deceased and expressed that her behavior was driven by a romanticized fantasy about death and corpses.
Greenlee was later evaluated by psychologists who noted that she likely suffered from psychosexual disorders.
Likely? Likely.
Particularly an attraction to the dead.
She also stated that she felt a psychological connection to the deceased, explaining that her actions were not just sexual, but also linked to her feelings of loneliness and alienation.
She indicated that she believed that she was somehow closer to the dead, experiencing a kind of intimacy that she felt that she was unable to achieve with the living.
And it seems like most of these mortuary people, they would be kind of like loner types, like very, you know, isolated.
I mean, even take away the whole corpse-banging thing, you're probably not going to really want a lot of company as a whole.
Especially because you'd probably get a lot of exposure to some pretty nasty parts of humanity through that job as well.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, dude.
It'd probably discourage you even more from wanting to be around living people.
It'd be so weird.
Half your life, you're working with dead people, and then you go into society, and then you're around live people.
That mixture...
Yeah, it's gotta be really bizarre.
Strange stuff.
So, the case stirred debates about mental health, sexual deviance, and criminal responsibility.
At the time, necophilia was not a specifically defined crime in California.
Greenlee's charge was for abducting a corpse and the desecration of a dead body, which is how her actions were prosecuted.
In 1973, she was convicted of abducting a corpse but was not sentenced to a lengthy prison term.
She was instead given probation, which raised concerns among the public about the adequacy of the legal system.
And the court seemed to take into account her youth, her mental health, she was 19, and the isolated nature of the crime.
I mean, it's batshit crazy of a crime, but that's never happened before?
But hey, at least she didn't have a pattern of banging corpses.
Just an isolated incident of banging a corpse.
She just needs to not fell in love with any more dead guys, and she won't re-offend, I swear, Your Honor.
Question is, should she get her job back?
No. Like, pretty much any other job would be ideal for somebody who does that.
Oh, fuck.
Greenlee's case garnered significant media attention due to the bizarre and disturbing nature of her crime, and she became one of the most infamous female criminals associated with necrophilia in U.S. history.
by Jim Morton and published in the book Apocalypse Culture, which was first released in 1987.
Okay. And I actually have this interview and I actually had this interview a long time ago, Apocalypse Culture, not knowing anything about this case.
I was like, what?
I know that.
What do I know that from?
And I looked at my bookmarks and sure enough, I have Apocalypse Culture in there.
Huh. The interview gave her the opportunity to discuss the events that led to the crime and to provide insight into her mindset, motivations, and emotions surrounding the act.
This is when it gets crazy, dude.
The book was edited by Adam Parfray, the founder of Feral House, a publishing house known for its interest in unusual, macabre, and countercultural topics and gained a cult following because it covered shocking subjects like necrophilia and the occult and serial killers and death.
We say it enough times, we're going to end up interviewing a necrophile by the end of this.
I would like to.
there are any necrophiles out there, legitimate necrophiles, please contact us.
We have a...
An opportunity for you to come on the show.
This is a good platform for you to just come out with your emotions.
Just like Greenlee here.
Just like Karen Greenlee.
Talk about your emotions.
Talk about your viewpoints.
Talk about anything you want.
Get in contact.
The corpses you banged?
We would love to know all the details.
Juicy details.
In fact, that will definitely be one of the lines of questioning.
So how about those corpses you banged?
Yeah. No leg unturned.
Or something.
So let's hop into this interview.
Now Cricket, you take the place of Jim Morton, the interviewer, and I'll be the stand-in for our gal of the hour here, Karen Greenlee.
Alright then.
Back during the trial, from what I read in the newspapers, it seems like you got very little support.
No, none whatsoever.
The newspapers were the worst.
To this day, I hate reporters.
One of them even compared me to Richard Trenton Chase, the vampire killer.
What support there was was like family obligations.
One of my brothers refused to have anything to do with me.
He said, I just want to remember her as she was.
He came up to me later and apologized, but he still isn't comfortable around me.
My older brother was more supportive, but even he had to ask, How did you do it?
Before the trial, I had a boyfriend who found out about it.
He got mad and slapped me around.
He said I wasn't even a woman and I could go fuck my dead bodies.
I was surprised.
He knew!
Apparently, a lot of people knew, and I don't know how they knew.
With guys, they always felt I went for the bodies because I was hard up.
And if I went to bed with them then, that would change me.
And they would be the one who would give me such satisfaction.
I wouldn't need those old corpses anymore.
I've run into that a lot.
Sometimes I had guys come on to me for just that reason.
So awful.
Damn, you'd bang corpses?
I want to convert you from corpse bangs.
Yeah. The question I am most often asked is, how does she do it?
Yes, that's the question!
People ask questions like that.
Even people who seem pretty cool seem to have open minds.
Then when you tell them, they say, that's very interesting.
They then don't want to have much to do with me.
I don't mind telling people how I do it.
It doesn't matter to me, but anyone adept sexually shouldn't have to ask.
People have this misconception that there has to be penetration for sexual gratification, which is bull.
Alright, calm down.
Calm down, Karen.
The most sensitive part of a woman is the front area anyway, and that is what needs to be stimulated.
Besides, there are different aspects of sexual expression.
Touchy-feely, 69, even holding hands.
That body is just lying there, but it has what it takes to make me happy.
The cold, the aura of death, the smell of death.
The funeral surroundings.
It all contributes.
Oh my god, this woman's crying.
These are her statements, people.
Yes. Is everyone all hot and bothered out there?
Okay. So, the smell of death?
Sure. I find the odor of death very erotic.
There are death odors and there are death odors.
That's a quote.
There are death odors and there are death odors.
So awesome.
Now you get your body that's been floating in the bay for two weeks.
Jesus. Or a burn victim.
Oh my god.
That doesn't...
Okay. That doesn't attract me much.
Okay. Good.
But a freshly...
Oh, that would have been so rough if it did.
But a freshly embalmed corpse is something else.
So, bloated and burned doesn't attract her much, but if that's all she had, she would.
Any port in a storm.
Yeah. She goes on, There is also this attraction to blood.
Oh, good God.
When you're on top of a body, it tends to purge blood out of its mouth while you're making passionate love.
You'd have to be there, I guess.
Jesus Christ.
And everyone's like, I'm so glad I wasn't.
What the hell, dude?
Okay. Of course, with all the AIDS going around...
That's the reason I haven't tried anything lately.
I'm sure I'd have found a way to get into one of those funeral homes by now, but the group I find attractive, young men in their 20s, are the ones who are dying of AIDS.
Shucks. Darn it!
Oh, man.
I'm really worried about hygiene.
Gotta have a clean corpse.
Did you usually attend the funerals of your corpse lovers?
Oh my god.
Yeah. It was convenient working in the funeral homes.
I'd get to drive out to the cemetery with the family.
I'd get to mourn right along with the family at the loss of that loved one.
Except I was groaning in a little different tone.
People can't really tell if you're grief-stricken or passion-stricken.
I've had members of the families put their arms around me and say, We're so glad you could come.
Then you have to spin this big ol' yarn.
Yeah! I knew him in school.
If the guy didn't have a girlfriend in life, they'd think you were...
Oh, she's the one!
Yeah, this lady has a lot of psychological problems.
I feel like her response should have been, I'm so glad I could come too.
Basically. Okay, you weren't in Sacramento at the time of the trial, were you?
No, I was working in a funeral home in another city and going to school at the same time.
It's weird, but the day I got a telegram about the trial telling me to get in touch with my attorney...
I went into the funeral home and was fired for things I had done at that funeral home.
Shocking. Somebody, I guess, got wise of me.
I know I wasn't seen, but I think somebody just figured it out.
Of course, they didn't know about Sacramento yet.
They found out later.
The same day, within five hours of each other, two totally different things caught up with me.
I worked in that funeral home for almost a year.
That's where I did a lot of my extracurricular activities.
I had keys so I'd slip back in after hours and spend all night there.
A guy lived at the funeral home in an apartment downstairs.
He drank, so he usually passed out.
He had a.357 Magnum under his pillow.
Interesting detail there.
Yeah. John McCure.
Yeah, I understand he was moved out of the cemetery after the trial.
That happened at the time I was breaking into this funeral home.
There was a side room, one of those arrangement areas where they always have their case folders out.
I read there was an exhumation order for John McCure.
Then I read something in the paper about it.
His mother wanted the body exhumed.
She said she wouldn't bury her cat there.
On the day he was supposed to be exhumed, I snuck out into a field across from where he was buried.
I sat out in the field and watched them dig up the body and give him to his other mortician.
They shipped him back to Michigan.
When did you first become aware of your necrophilia?
It's something I've been attracted to all my life.
I used to hold funeral services for my pets when they died.
Had a little pet graveyard.
I lived in a small town and the fireman's barbecue was next door to the funeral home.
To go to the bathroom, you had to use the facilities in the funeral home.
I'd find any excuse I could to go to the bathroom, and then I'd take side trips and just wander around the mortuary.
Uh, how is your next question not, did you do stuff to the pets?
Right, I know.
Like, I feel like I have a follow-up, like, wait.
Yeah, were the pets safe?
It didn't scare you like the other kids?
No, I loved it!
I was real curious.
I'd wander around the halls.
Oh yeah, those giddy funeral home halls I always enjoy.
Do you miss working in funeral homes?
Yes, terribly!
Even if I wasn't a necrophile, I like mortuary work.
I enjoy embalming and everything, except for obese people.
The bodies I hated working on most were obese people, especially if they'd been autopsied.
Their guts would slide out on the floor and shit, and all this melty...
Fat. Yeesh!
Standards for corpses.
Look at this picture.
Oh, yeah, you can see the picture.
It's like, it looks like she's in a casket.
And she looks very happy about this.
Yeah, I don't know.
It's a weird picture.
That is creepy.
You said something about the, quote, vampire killer, Richard Trenton Chase.
He was from Sacramento, wasn't he?
Yeah, the second funeral home I worked for.
I wasn't working there at the time, but got the bodies of Chase's victims.
A man and a woman and their child.
So I hear the gory details of what the bodies looked like.
They were really butchered.
They were all disemboweled with shit stuffed in their mouths.
Chase started by killing animals and drinking their blood.
And when he wasn't satisfied with that, he graduated to people.
He killed this couple, then kidnapped a child, killed it, and later threw it in a trash can.
The mortician who embalmed the body said he hardly ever got queasy about anything.
Fuck, that's crazy.
That's nasty.
What's the weirdest case you ever encountered?
Ow. My god.
One guy committed suicide by shooting himself in the head with a pellet rifle.
Oh my god.
How the fuck?
That must have taken a lot of shots.
That sounds so brutal.
Oh shit, yeah.
She continues.
He had to shoot himself several times and it took him a while to die, but he finally succeeded.
Holy hell, bro.
You're like stabbing yourself to death with a butter knife.
What the hell's wrong with you?
I guess that can be done.
Wow. I don't think it was intentional.
I think he was trying to achieve heightened orgasm through strangulation, and he ended up hanging himself.
He wouldn't be the first to make that mistake.
I imagine she's encountered that a few times.
How about the most unusual funeral?
Gosh, see, I haven't read any of this yet, so all this is new to me, too.
One time this bunch of religious fanatics held a funeral for one of their members.
They didn't want her embalmed.
They just wanted her dressed and in a casket.
We usually didn't do that, but we decided to be nice and put her up in a stateroom.
We were standing outside of that stateroom and we heard someone saying, Rise in the name of Jesus!
They were praying and slapping the body.
They were talking in tongues.
That was weird.
They were trying to resurrect them.
Yeah, dude, that's crazy.
That's pretty awesome.
Slap in the fucking face.
Jesus. There seems to be a strong camaraderie between morticians.
Almost like a secret society.
Oh my god, dude.
Yeah. That's crazy.
I'm gonna look into that.
She says, very much so.
Morticians are very tight with each other because most people won't have anything to do with them.
I used to find if I went to a party, I'd always be introduced like, this is Karen and she's a mortician.
But they don't say, here's Karen, she's a secretary.
Or, she's a veterinary assistant.
A lot of people are under the misconception that morticians are very straight, very somber.
If they ever went back into the prep room and heard all the jokes that had cracked up, it would blow the theory right out the window.
I mean, I personally would think that They would be super laid back about jokes about death and shit.
I mean, they work around death all day.
What's the difference between a hipster and a necrophile?
Hipsters won't get into anything once it's cool.
I was going to say, some people might tolerate having a necrophile around.
Yeah. Here's a really easy one, dude.
You should get this one.
Why don't gay necrophiles like to talk about their pasts?
They like to keep it behind them.
Too many skeletons in their closet.
Oh, of course.
Yeah. Alright, do any of these morticians ever testify for or against you at the trial?
One funeral director testified on behalf of funeral practices.
He was asked how often necrophilia occurs.
He said, It's almost unheard of in necrophilia.
Yeah, it's almost unheard of in this profession.
That's a major lie.
Yes, it definitely is.
Necrophilia is more prevalent than most people imagine.
Funeral homes just don't report it.
There was one place that I broke into, and I know that they knew something was wrong.
They actually caught me in the act and let me get away.
Whoa, dude!
At another place I was working, this guy came up to me and said, Someone's been messing with the body.
It looks like they were trying to fuck the body.
I said, Oh my goodness, really?
I think they figured it out later.
I know they know.
I know they know now.
Yep. One mortician I worked with used to like to...
Chakar? What is that?
I don't get it.
One mortician I worked with used to like to a chakar, a large hollow needle used to suction fluids from corpses and push it up inside any male cadaver's dick.
He'd say, Oh look!
The corpse got a boner!
So that's how she was doing it, huh?
She'd put something hard into the urethra or something?
It kind of sounded along the lines of she just...
Rubbed her flap.
Just, you know, just need that smell.
Ah, the smell of death.
Yeah, well, she said this guy was really weird, which I think is a hilarious condemnation coming from her.
Oh, yeah, so she continues, This guy was really weird.
Yeah. He looked like Larry of the Three Stooges.
I think he had some necrophilic tendencies.
He'd get really upset if there weren't any female bodies to work on.
He'd start pacing.
I caught him one time in the prep room.
He said he was just taking a pee in the hopper at the end of the table.
He was just pulling up his pants when I walked in.
I said, I won't tell if you don't.
Damn, dude.
Holy shit.
The necro code of silence.
It must be enforced.
Hey, look at this picture of her in this next photo.
Doesn't look like she's using any filters or anything.
Guys missing toes and shit.
I don't know.
Picture it with doing what she loves most.
She must be a feet person.
You say you were once caught in the act of necrophilia?
Once? That's what that picture really looks like she's saying there.
Once? She says, yeah.
I had tried to kill myself and was living in a halfway house a couple blocks up from this funeral home.
I decided to go to the mausoleum and try to kill myself again.
The mausoleum had a door connecting it to the mortuary.
I was sitting in there, real depressed, when, just for the hell of it, I decided to try running my driver's license along the edge of the door and click.
The door popped open.
I couldn't believe it.
So I tried it again, and the door popped open again.
I went into the prep room, and there happened to be a body in there.
I had me some fun!
Did my thing and forgot all about killing myself!
I told the folks at the halfway house that I stayed the night with friends.
I went in there several times.
Sometimes there were absolutely no bodies, so I turned around and snuck back out.
I usually went in the back door.
About a week later, I snuck back into the funeral home.
I was on the prep table having a good old time when all of a sudden I felt like there was somebody nearby.
Next thing, I heard some people walking down the hallway.
I quietly jumped off the table and threw the sheet over the dead body.
My clothes were in quite a state of disarray and I had blood on me and everything else.
It had been an autopsy case.
This woman.
Holy shit.
There was a casket with the lid open in the side casket room so I ran and hid behind it.
The casket was on a church truck so they couldn't see me.
But they could see my legs.
It was a man and a woman.
They were standing there saying, Who are you?
What are you doing there?
One of them said to the other, You go get the gun and call the cops and I'll stay down here.
I knew I had only one chance, so I busted out and ran.
I knew the layout of the place, so I just ran down the hall and out of the place and out of the cemetery.
At the time, I still had a friend who worked at the funeral home.
He said, Somebody broke into the funeral home.
They know it's you.
They put in an alarm after that.
I think they called the police, but there were never any charges, so I'm sure they didn't want any.
Of the publicity.
Can't imagine why.
That was the last time I got very close.
Except for I broke it into a few tombs.
Holy shit, she's just going crazy, man.
I love that part at the end.
Except for the tombs.
That was the last time.
Except for, yeah.
That was the last time I got very close.
Except for I broke it into a few tombs.
That's a tomb raider.
Geez. If you will.
What's Laura Croft?
Laura Crotch?
Laura Crotch, Tomb Raider.
Scary Crotch.
Necrophile. Have you seen any changes in people's attitude towards necrophilia?
Yeah, when I came out here I noticed it.
It's almost a fad.
They're not really necrophiles, but pseudo-necrophiles, like a death cult.
But there are probably a lot of people who would do it if they had the opportunity.
Fake-ass wannabe necros.
Yeah, fucking fake necros.
Pseudo-necros.
Perhaps there is this vast network of necrophiles who, for lack of a forum, will never know of each other's existence.
Well, there's Layla, Wendell's group, American Association of Necrophilic Research and Enlightenment.
They try to get some information out about it.
That's interesting.
I'm gonna write that down.
Necrophile awareness.
It must be frustrating when people say, we have to cure you, or you've got to be more like us.
It is.
For a while I found myself thinking, yeah, this isn't normal.
Why can't I be like other people?
Why isn't the same pair of shoes fit me just right?
I went through all that personal hell and I finally accepted myself and realized that's just me.
That's my nature.
And might as well enjoy it.
I'm miserable when I try to be something I'm not.
And two, a lot of these people who are putting me down have hang-ups worse than I have, or they do things that might be considered questionable by their peers.
I had a gay friend who, when he found out I was a necrophile, said, You can go to hell for that!
After 1979, when I was put on probation, part of the probation requirement was that I seek therapy.
I had a really nice social worker.
She was cool.
Very non-judgmental.
The more I talk to these people, the more I realize necrophilia makes sense for me.
The reason I was having a problem with it was because I couldn't accept myself.
The reason why I was fucking dead people was because I couldn't accept myself.
Yeah. Okay.
That's what this therapist was talking to her about.
But now that I masturbate to the dead, life is good.
She says, I was still trying to live my life by other people's standards.
To accept it was peace.
These people who were always trying to change me only helped me get myself more in touch with my feelings.
I used to go from the therapist's office to the funeral home.
It didn't work, folks!
And that's the end of that interview that we're gonna put.
There's more, but I didn't add it because it was just a bunch of garbage.
So I'm going to say that the attempts to cure her did not take.
Yeah. And she has definitely still got it.
I mean, she straight up said it didn't work, folks.
I mean, this woman is like, she's not sorry for anything she's done.
Her demeanor is like, this is who I am.
I embrace it fully.
I don't apologize for my actions because that is who I am.
That is so nuts.
It's fucking crazy.
But, you know, it's one of those things where when you're really twisted like that, you just start assuming that everyone else must be like that.
I assume anyone working in that field is like that, straight up.
And it seems like they have a group.
From what I'm hearing is that it's a minority of the group, but a significant minority.
Yeah, dude.
Necrophilia ring, man.
Straight up.
And you hear about this and all those elite fucking rituals too, right?
They are also into necrophilia.
Well, yeah, because, you know, why waste the vessel?
It's still there.
I'm writing these groups down so I can research them.
The whole thing is just so beyond disgusting.
Isn't it nuts, dude?
It is just fucking crazy.
Yeah, so there you go.
And yet, the main thing I learned is that there's actually worse degrees of this that I didn't actually specifically know about, and now unfortunately do.
True, dude.
Like, it never really occurred to me that there could be degrees of necrophilia.
I mean, I guess that makes sense, but I just never really put the thought into it to parse that out.
It isn't something you generally think about.
You know?
But now we know.
This is a very educational episode.
Very educational.
So yes, the more you know, the more you think we deserve the harmonic cooking.
Yeah, there you go.
Necrophilia is the next Storytime Chiny Hour, man.
It's going to be in your school.
And yet another reason why maybe we do deserve to get vibrated off the earth.
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