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I'm going to put it up very soon, actually, in the next couple of days, just because no one really saw it much at the time.
And it was really interesting.
I had a conversation with loads of Republicans, man.
It was just like lots of political stuff because really they were trying to find their place and they were trying to be fairly neutral.
They were trying to be pro-Palestinian as well to some extent.
We were given like full...
They recruited people at TNT in a way which was really positive for the people because they were just like people who would agree with roughly that.
Freedom, proper freedom, proper liberty, and just then not give editorial control.
And then you get what you want, you know?
So they employed a load of people who...
We're on the one side of the debate, but we weren't all about warmongering, because that's what most of the problem is.
The whole of it is just like, they're all created.
It's all just perpetual limited warfare.
It's been the doctrine of perpetual limited warfare since at least 1957, and there's no going back.
Now, the perpetual limited warfare is going to be not only more staged, but also up in the sky.
I don't think people realise how close we are to that.
If you watch the videos of people just getting pulverised in Ukraine just by some drone, and you think, that goes really fast.
Imagine there's loads of drones, and there's a big attack, and it's a drone attack, and it goes, and they go, we can't put humans in harm's way anymore.
And that becomes part of the sort of mutually assured destruction rule base.
So I think we've got plenty of stepping stones, like horrible stepping stones between there and now, including just like the fact that it feels like we're coming up to the point where they're going to drop a limited nuclear strike.
On two sides.
That's kind of what the game is called.
I think they call it the draw scenario, where what they do is they say, we don't want to fire our big bombs at you because it would be mutually assured destruction.
You don't want to fire them at us.
But if one of us fires a smaller strike and then the other one fires a smaller strike and then the other one fires a smaller strike, the other one fires a small strike, and then they go into a peace negotiation, that actually gives them more power on the ground in their own.
A nation-states, both sides.
They'll be able to enact laws galore, the fear of nuclear war.
They'll be able to look like, again, a lot of what it is in politics nowadays is they have to refresh the government to make it look like it's with the people.
And every time they go through this cycle, like we've seen this time, we've seen all of the PR faces and all of the PR mechanisms put out for the Trump campaign.
We saw it happen.
It's hard not to feel a bit sad when you have lots of people in the independent community who automatically sway into a certain way.
Could just be independent.
I mean, that's one of the big things in the whole of this stuff, all of this stuff, all of politics, is that it would be better if we're not at war.
And war isn't when everybody's being independent.
It's when people are being independent on a state that is going to do whatever they like and is out of control, just like we are now.
What's your take on Keir Starmer walking over, they're in Parliament, whatever, and he walks out and goes over to Nigel Farage?
Have you seen that video?
Yeah, but Nigel Farage is a deep, dark establishment figure.
So you go back to...
One of the things I come across in my Pottinger series I investigated as well was the...
Oh, it's going to X out of my mind.
The biggest fraud in American banking history with Michael Milken, with Drexel Burnham Lambert, that was one where it was like literally...
It was a bond, a fake bond scheme, and eventually the government had bought 70% to 80% into the bond scheme.
When it collapsed, they had to bring in people like David Bowies, who's a very famous...
Nigel Farage worked for Drexel, Burnham Lambert.
He was right in the thick of some of the most historical, and no one talks about it.
No one over in Britain has any idea about proper history and the establishment history, intelligence history, anything like that.
They just don't have even the slightest grasp of what is truly going on.
All they do is they concentrate on It's fed in such a way.
It's so clever.
And it's like a five-pronged approach, you could probably say.
And for the five prongs are like the different media organizations that keep us all in this little circular argument and debates all of the time.
Every news channel is basically having the same debate.
When one news channel gets a trend in debate, then the other news channels just look on to that because they're just wasting time.
We have programs like Question Time.
You feel like you're able to ask the questions to politicians and representatives, and they'll give you an answer back.
But all it does is it riles up one side and lets them play off one side against the other side.
They manufacture the people who they're going to then put on as their...
Co-opted antithesis to their thesis in the Hegelian dialectical where they're creating the other side and they put them out to you in programs.
And then you've got people like Owen Jones and stuff who's against Keir Starmer but is a Labour person and allows you to create heroes for when they have to rewash their morality.
You know, how people see them ethically.
They have to re-wash it.
And that's what we've seen in the Trump.
We've seen a load of Democrats who really were not going to be part of Bill Clinton's sort of...
Yeah, I think Clinton was the first one to really adopt it,
right? He was chosen to really push that third, basically, third line of politics.
In 1992, he'd give a speech about it when he was on his campaign trail.
He was saying, you know, we're no longer the Democrats of 1992.
We're no longer left-wing.
We're no longer going...
We're pulling to the centre and we're going to push towards Anthony Giddens' form of third-way politics.
And Tony Blair did the same thing once he got into power.
It was like new Democrats, new Labour.
It was the same shtick, different country.
Just during and after this time of these real, like, birth of the Young Global Leaders program, the Global Leaders for tomorrow, the first year, was crazy, man.
Gordon Brown, Tony Blair, Larry Summers' A's turning in the same circles as the Clinton circles as well.
Bill Gates is there.
You know, all of the big guys.
All of the big guys.
Angela Merkel, Nikola Sarkozy, Viktor Orban.
Why not throw them all in, you know?
It's just like...
It's a training mill to train all of these third-wave politicians and put them into power.
It's a fantastic paradigm shift.
That allows for the technocracy to gain control.
And it's kind of the stopgap in between the capitalistic sort of systems that have won out.
If you look at why communism failed and Russia went the way it did and how China's gone, it's clear that capitalism won out.
Now, stakeholder capitalism or something along those lines is going to be the thing that's adopted as a global politics.
I mean, if we go back to one of the main questions, like Farage, he's really a technocrat.
He's in bed with all the technocrats.
He's pretended not to be, but he is.
And really, Keir Starmer is a technocrat.
He's in bed with all the technocrats.
And all of the people who were in the...
In between Blair and Starmer, all of the people in power except for Jeremy Corbyn, were all people like Ed Balls was there and Ed Balls was like saying, you know, it has got to be technocratic solution for the future.
These are what these guys are trying to enact.
They're trying to enact one pole of multipolar globalism to rule them all.
And they've got to find that, like, we know it's multipolar globalism.
And we've already got two main poles at the moment.
We've got BRICS, and we've got, like, this sort of European-American-British-aligned Western powers.
And these two things are going to collide, and these are the two main poles of multipolar globalism that are formed at the moment.
And inside them is a potential for these big...
Super state ideas to fracture and each one to, as it gets closer to globalism, each trying to capture technologically the advancement towards globalism to become the main and winning pole.
And that pole has to take control of AI while it's at a level that can take control of everyone else's missile systems.
And then you're done.
That's the end of that game.
Who do you think?
It controls all these people.
Keir Stormer, like, all these mother-effers out there, especially in American government.
Because I did an episode on, like, the Elm Guest House in, like, southwest London, I think.
Yeah, you're definitely familiar.
And, like, all these other...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're right.
I'm very familiar.
Yeah, yeah, very familiar with all of them.
Yeah. And so all these other houses...
I mean, this is the 80s, maybe early 90s.
All these places are getting busted.
These politicians are being found out going to these places.
It was a scam.
You go back to the early 70s, go back to the creation of social services as it is now.
The actual social services in the UK was created partly by...
I always forget.
I even did an Enemies of Humanity about him.
I always forget Keith Joseph's name.
I've always got to think about it a load before I get to his name.
Keith Joseph was put in charge.
He was close to Margaret Thatcher, and he was a very strange man.
He has loads of different things he's done throughout history, like the London housing projects in the 50s and 60s that push forward under the Tories, that saw a load of really shabby, crappily made buildings have to be demolished later on in a massive program.
He was the guy who ended up being put in charge of creating social services, and some of the people he put in charge were really bizarre.
I wrote an article which was called...
It's a quote.
The title was a quote.
It was, Men who are attracted to 13-year-old boys make the best teachers.
And that was Reverend...
Yeah, I know.
That was a guy called Reverend Stacey.
And Stacey was put in charge of Kent Social Services in 1974 when they were forming Social Services properly under Keith Joseph.
And he's like, it is these tapes in the National Archive where he's talking, Nicholas Stacey.
And he's saying, I don't even know, you know, I'd been a priest.
Before that, I had been an Olympian.
And then suddenly they were like, why don't you become a head of Social Services?
And what they were doing was they were putting people in power that were all mates with the big boys, and all they would have to do would say, okay, we don't want any sniff of a crime.
This is a newly created service.
We need it to run.
No sniff of a crime.
And when, you know, we cannot even have one sign.
So anything that goes to court, you represent it.
Deny, deny, deny.
We'll crush it.
We'll use the police.
You know, they did all of that.
All through the 70s and 80s, this laid the ground for the staff to realize that they could start abusing children en masse in loads of different cases.
And so one of them I did a load of work on was managed by a guy called Dr. Perrin Yanagam.
What? Yeah, Perrin Panaya Yanagam, I think his full name is.
How do you spell that?
Yeah, it's hard.
I want to look into this guy.
What is his name?
If you go to johnnyvedmore.com, you'll find him.
I'll be able to walk you through it.
Perry Yamagam?
Oh man, it's hard.
It's hard.
When you're doing articles like this, there's a lot, you have to spend a lot of time working out.
Perin Penaligam, I'm sure it's Penaligam.
Anyway, anyway.
He was put in charge of Kendall House.
So you could probably put in Kendall House on Google and find him.
I did a whole article on him years back.
And it's a really, Kendall House is a really, that's what the quote was kind of about as well.
Protecting people like this.
These care homes, they weren't caring for girls.
What they were doing, and this has all gone through inquiries as well.
This isn't like it's hidden knowledge or it's like a conspiracy theory.
They've had the Kendall House reviews, the actual care.
This was about five, six, seven years ago.
Teresa Cooper, if you look into her work, she has gone through it.
It was one of the girls who was at Kendall House.
She was abused, raped over and over again, locked in a room for nine months at one point.
Lots of the girls were.
They were heavily sedated, just lying around.
They were constantly waking up to find themselves being abused.
Some of the reports of how people got taken into these places is just like chilling.
It's like proper nurse ratchet behavior all around.
At the same time, a woman who's...
Husband is working for Glaxo back in the day.
Is feeding all of these girls a range of medications in Kendall House.
You have all of the medications listed.
Crazy medications.
There are a lot.
Yeah, so it meant that basically they were testing out a load of things, and she was keeping, she was a proper nurse, actually, and she was testing on girls.
I think they were testing it for a drug company, and Perrin Panayagam was also the head of one of the mental hospitals, what was called a mental hospital, near London.
On the way between Kent and London too.
And it looked like they were, you know, it looks, when you look at events like that, like in situations like that, Nicholas Stacey went to court over and over again, admits on tape.
Over and over again, going to court and saying that the girls are liars and that they shouldn't be believed when he knew that they had been raped.
So, I mean, it's just extraordinary to hear how social services was even created in the UK.
And then came the era that you're talking about, Elm Guesthouse and stuff, where you've got, again, this is the same sort of thing.
These girls were being picked up from various places.
Picked up from the homes by people, they'd be taken to certain places where there would be elite sex parties.
This is not like a conspiracy either.
Everybody knows this sort of stuff happens.
This is all documented.
They were putting kids in the windows of some of the streets in London.
There were red light districts where there were teenage girls sitting up and teenage boys sitting up in the windows and they were just prostitutes as well.
That was what it was at the time.
Britain is a weird place.
It's a wonderful place.
I love going around.
Last night, I was out with my camera.
I do police auditing, what you would call First Amendment auditing.
So just kind of going around and filming the police in the city centre, acting with people, interacting, looking for a bit of trouble and a bit of something, something.
And the police are quite onto it now, so they don't care so much.
They used to gig.
You know, bother you all the time.
But they just leave you do what you're doing now.
And it's other people who get angry with you.
And there's a load of like, you know, when you go out into Britain, it's not like a load of polite people.
It's like people are feisty in Britain.
Loads of people are undereducated.
Loads of people when they're heavily drunk and in a gang.
And it's amazing.
It's amazing.
I can be doing the right thing and have free people become really...
And then because they're angry with me, other people who are walking by who are prone to anger will be like, oh, I should be angry too.
And suddenly become angry with me until there's a collection of people who are angry.
And most of them don't even know why they're angry at me.
They're just angry because the initial person did.
And that mentality is all throughout Britain.
It's like you have one person and you have a load going up.
And they all do silly things because they haven't been taught how to revolt.
That's it.
They haven't been taught to a level well enough that they'll be able to realize we should target what we're doing, otherwise we'll never get anywhere.
It's like a made-to-order mob.
Yeah, old Britain is a mob.
Like they're just kind of waiting for the next available function to get loaded up for them to run.
Yes. Because there's just no programming.
There's loads.
Loads of really, really, like, I mean, Britain is really weird in that respect.
Because, like I say, you have all of these reserved people as well walking around the streets.
And around them you have all of these completely out of their mind insane people walking around.
And it's like there's a serious, serious, like, not much mix in.
Nearly all good or nearly all bad.
That's the way it is.
That's the way it is.
So in terms of, if we go back to the Elm Guesthouse, because they got caught, when they did a search...
They found a notebook and something.
They had a bunch of names and numbers.
And these names and numbers happened to be people like Leon Britton, Cyril Smith, Anthony Blunt, Nicholas Barron, Peter Heyman.
A load of these guys went to...
Jimmy Saville.
Yeah, a load of these guys.
I don't remember Jimmy Saville being down there, but I wouldn't be surprised.
But a lot of these guys who were...
In these circles were all compromisable.
They were all like...
And there's a documentary.
Where one of the aides to the MPs are talking, they're like, oh, if we would have found anything going on like that back in the day, we'd cover it up in no time whatsoever.
We'd have to cover it up because we don't want that coming out.
And the whole system worked in a kind of...
Someone else has said this to me on multiple occasions, like party boat.
They all got on the party boat and then they're all in it together in that sense.
And how much exposure they've given depends on...
How much heat they get back.
But the woman and guy, I can't remember their names, but the woman, the guy died who was running Elm Guest House later on.
And the woman was living, I think she was living in something like Pembroke Shore somewhere.
And she phoned up this journalist and told him or wrote to his journalist and said, hey, come, come.
To my place tomorrow, I'll give you all of the rest of the stuff on Elm Guesthouse.
I think it was in the early 90s.
It kind of had risen to the media surface again.
And the next day she was found dead, of course.
Of course.
Elm Guesthouse is a time where these operations were learning how to do their stuff.
And they got better and better at doing their stuff over time.
And I just feel like they have all of these different houses doing these same things, compromising all of these politicians.
So all the politicians, they know they're being compromised.
I think if you know that you're going to be into politics and you're going to rise up the ranks, that you're going to have to do something to compromise yourself to go any further.
I mean, that's just kind of how it is.
They go to these chambers, Kerem Starmer going over to Farage, and just like, hey, shaking hands, and he whispers, like, hey, do you have this guy's number?
Can I get this number for me?
And it's just like, dude.
Yeah, and so they're not going to investigate each other, because they're all doing the same thing with the same children, the same buildings.
But my thing is, like, who...
I guess I should just say, like, are people that are currently in UK politics, like, are they being, like...
Looked at, like Boris Johnson or Nigel Farage or David Frost or whatever.
Are they looked at as being part of anything crazy like these houses?
David Blunkett?
I mean, Boris Johnson is big cheese, man.
Is big cheese.
He is top.
You were talking about Anthony Blunt earlier and we talked about Ted Heath and etc.
Well, these guys went to a certain like...
A board in the school.
And it had this deputy headteacher who was spanking, barebottom spanking all the boys a lot.
He would abuse, sexually abuse a lot of these boys.
He was well known.
His name escapes me right now.
Well, he became the headteacher eventually of the school Boris Johnson would go to.
And he had been, all throughout the time when he had taught people like Blunt and Heath and other people at this one school, he was completely allowed to fondle boys and get away with it.
That was just a thing.
Then he was head of Ashdown House.
I think it's called Ashdown House.
What years would this have been?
Sorry? Oh, he's gone and disappeared, I think.
You said something about the year?
Yeah, it froze.
What was it?
We lost you there.
What year would this have been around?
So this is in the 1970s, because Ashtown House, I think Boris Johnson, Rachel Johnson, and it was an all-boys school.
It wasn't four girls, but Rachel Johnson, Boris Johnson and Joe Johnson all got sent there while their mother, I think it was in 1974, when their mother was having a nervous breakdown, not surprising because Boris Johnson's father's probably a hard one to learn.
Oh, yeah, I bet.
And they went to Ashdown House and they said, okay, our kids are going here, but he's Billy Williams.
Billy Williamson.
Maybe. Billy Williams or Billy Williamson.
The head teacher, they said he has to go immediately.
He's not allowed to teach any of these.
And he was out of a job straight away.
This guy got away with it for years and years.
It wasn't even said why.
It was just Boris Johnson, Joe Johnson, Rachel Johnson are going to go to this school and that guy is gone.
And that was it.
It was done.
He was out.
So they had power to change that.
So from that you're able to understand there's a group that can be molested and a group that can't be, that are untouchable.
Or maybe touchable through other means.
Maybe groups, cults, whatever.
Who knows?
But there's the ones who are chosen to be in charge and the ones who are chosen not to be in charge.
They find out there actually are rules.
I mean, that's why you've got to have cronyism in all of this.
So maybe all those appointments, you know, they look bizarre from the outside, but realistically, your number one qualification when your business is corruption is...
Yeah. And honestly, it's probably better that you not be competent, because if you're competent, you might make the decision to run things yourself and or root out that corruption.
And it's why narcissism, narcissistic tendencies, Malfusian tendencies, they tend to rise to the top.
Sociopathic. So they cultivate that.
Because, well, they're always going to be the ones who will do whatever's necessary.
And believe in themselves.
Yeah, and I hate getting arguments with people about this.
The normies out there, because they think that just anybody...
Why don't you become president?
I'm against both sides because there's one bird with two fucking wings.
I know too much.
First, they wouldn't let me go.
Secondly, if I made it even to any sort of politics, they would just murder me and suicide me in some way.
I would not be able to be pliable.
That's a pretty neck you got going on there.
I mean, they'd rather get somebody who makes their own compromat, like all these people who get in these positions and dirty themselves.
That's true.
I mean, they're probably looking for people who are already doing this kind of abuse.
And then effectively promoting them without actually admitting that they caught them and offending.
Yeah, data world, man.
That's the world of data.
The most compromisable in charge.
For sure.
And it would make sense because, I mean, if you only care for yourself and you don't care for other people and you're not emotive and etc., you're more likely just to be there, just to be up top.
Yeah, the psychopath paradox.
The ideal people for the position are the worst people for the position.
And it's not going to change.
It's not going to change.
Like, Trump, what's going on with Trump and all his choices for his cabinet?
I mean...
His choices.
I mean, are any of them really gonna...
Are they really gonna root out corruption?
I just...
I'm so cynical.
No, no.
Aw, give me hope, please.
Pete Hagseth for Secretary of Defense.
Pam Bondi.
Cash Patel.
It's the start of one point to the next point, and the next point is technocracy.
And it looks like, I mean, we could say that the test pad for future technocracy is whatever Israeli set as a town gets built over Gaza.
See, a lot of the...
A lot of the part where the technocracy is lacking right now is the inability to fully rewrite stuff.
Because we can still look back to what people used to say, articles that used to be written.
The real kicker comes where there's a point where all that stuff gets auto-deleted as it needs to be.
There's still that point of a few days where things get scrubbed and we catch it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Listen, I go through archives galore and I know they're precious things.
I mean, a lot of people probably don't even want to mention how precious they are because, I mean, the amount of information you can find there.
If you go back and look at any one person, you will find something that they don't want you to know now because every single person makes decisions in the past that they regret in the future.
They're not perfect angels?
Aww. In that case, I'm glad you said that, because that brings us to Nicole Junkerman.
Oh, no.
Well, you've just muted your video from masses of search engines, channels, everything, man.
I know.
I was talking to an Italian supermodel in the cafe earlier.
And I was like, how come I'm talking to an Italian supermodel in a castle in Cardiff?
This doesn't make any sense.
And I start to get very suspicious, you know, every time that I see something like that, that it's like one of Nicole Junkerman's people has popped up.
Hello. How are you?
I'm nice to you.
And then I'm going to feed you with stuff or something or end you.
She's probably...
That was when my whole, like...
Life kind of changed because I knew like the day before I was publishing that article, I was like restless night.
I was like, this is a change.
I'm entering into the Epstein case in a way which is like...
Bring in someone new who's possibly one of the most powerful people I've ever looked at.
And she makes no sense.
It's like she's so super powerful.
And she's like, because she's a supermodel of the past, elite model agency, same as Naomi Campbell and Kate Moss at the same time as well, it feels like it was a front because I've only found like four photos from a catalogue from 1995.
and so they she had already gone to a Monte Carlo university, no one goes to Monaco university in Monaco unless they got a bit of money you know, you've got to have
I've been to Monte Carlo.
I was going out with a girl whose sister was married to the head of Splash Damage Games.
And he wanted us to look after her nephew for one hour.
And he took us out for three, four nights in Monte Carlo Bay.
And that place is wild.
It is just totally just...
I can imagine.
I mean, the cocktails stayed at an angle.
I mean, I can't even describe that to people properly.
It was just amazing, the whole experience.
You're lying on a deck chair next to Jamiroquai and stuff like that.
Oh, there's Tom Jones.
I got to speak to Tom Jones.
Yeah, that's crazy.
You're in this place with these stars walking around.
You don't get to go to university there.
You don't get to go to university in the place of Ferraris and Lamborghinis unless you've got some push already.
She's a German woman who...
Oh, she's so interesting.
There's so many parts of her backstory that once I discovered loads about her, there's loads of fake information being put out by her own people.
She's running interference.
But, I mean, some of the things that she did, she was involved in FIFA football corruption.
She was caught tax evading with the Panama Papers.
Those are two of the small ones.
She was having an affair with the guy who owned Adidas, who completely loved her and let his family's fortune get
Right, the entire fortune!
I mean, that's a massive amount.
Not just Adidas as well.
Not to mention, Nicole's only like 40 years old right now.
She's like our age.
Yeah, she might be a bit older.
I think she's about 46. I think she's a couple of years older than me.
But don't say you'll have to check.
I've written three articles about Nicole.
And what got me interested in the first place was she was on the flight logs.
I went through and I colour-coded the Epstein flight logs when I was trying to understand what was going on.
And I thought...
Oh, I'll do a pattern search and look for patterns and maybe I'll find something.
And what happened?
There was just, in the logs that were available at that time, there were just two times, two people who had ridden alone with Epstein.
No one else around.
None of his entourage, not Ghislaine Maxwell, not Sarah Callen, not anyone else.
Bill Clinton.
None of the guys who were just him and someone else.
Even with Bill Clinton, he was there with Secret Service, he was there with Ghislaine Maxwell, Sarah Callen, whoever.
So there is loads of...
Why is...
It makes you stop and think.
Why is he only travelling alone with two people?
One of those people...
I can't remember why the other person didn't pay off or anything or didn't find anything.
But the other person, the one person was Nicole Youngerman.
And it seemed really interesting.
She's a woman who's in the mid-twenties.
He's not interested in any of that.
They go to Britain.
They go to North, I think it's in Warwickshire, Oxfordshire Way, go to a place called Foxcoat House.
It took me, I found someone who was there that night.
I can't say too much about who that person is, because there was only a select group of people, including the two US senators who were there, who were visiting Epstein.
And he walked in with a reporter, told to me, Youngerman on one arm and another morally looking woman.
Suspected. I mean, this is only a suspicion.
This isn't a hard fact, but it would be Melanie Walker.
And he walked them in.
To the room with the senators.
And that would be really interesting.
Foxcoat House was camera'd up as well.
There was lots of cameras around there.
And it seems to be...
And no one was allowed in the main house apart from at very special times.
And they spent a weekend there flying back out then to France.
France to Birmingham, Birmingham back to France, I think it was.
And so what were they doing?
That sounds very...
Very interesting.
We're meeting with some centres.
Years later, Nicole Junkerman is getting into tech businesses galore.
From about 2015 onward, she's just invested in tech.
She had already, because of the pull of her ex, the person she was having an affair with, because of his pull, she was able to get really into some...
It was like fun gaming, not gambling.
And then some other things.
She invested in a Chinese financial company.
She was involved in the FIFA football scandal, which made him loads of money.
The guy she was having an affair with was one of the only ones to go to the German inquiry about that and kind of get everybody else off the hook.
And he had cancer and was going to die about three years later.
But she invested in loads of companies.
I mean, every single company you can imagine.
Grok she invested in.
Yeah, yeah.
Elon Musk's Grok.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Elon Musk, it's not.
It's Nicole Junkerman and others.
She was there first.
She's really good at this.
She was invested in Dollar Shave Company, which is part of hers as well.
That's crazy.
Winamax? Winamax was early on.
It's a bit of a strange one because the actual people who invented Winamax and founded Winamax, they got written out of history.
And suddenly it was these guys that had done it, but they hadn't done it.
They would just realize that if they had stole it off these guys, then they could make loads of money off it later on.
Jesus Christ.
But by 2015, 16, 17, she is motoring.
She's married Ferdinando Brichetti Peretti of the API oil family in Italy, who him and his brother, Hugo Brichetti Peretti, are often meeting with, like, American politicians as well.
They're knights of Malta, so, you know.
Oh, shit.
Pretty high up on the old...
I mean, Nicole Junkerman and Fernando Braccietti-Paretti had a baby, and it got baptized and christened in the Vatican.
You've got to be kind of like...
Up there if your kid's getting seen by the top dogs.
Yeah. And these guys are the top dogs.
I mean, the big...
It's their bloodline.
They must have good bloodlines.
Oh, they're unbelievable.
They're two families that are married together that already had very good bloodlines.
I've done a bit of research on...
Those guys.
They're very interesting.
But she also, she was in 2017, roughly.
She might have been involved a little bit earlier.
She was involved in something called Carbine 9-11, which is a fabulous, fabulous example of a company.
That was Ehud Barak, who's, of course, the 10th Prime Minister of Israel.
I think he was 10th Prime Minister and member of the Mossad back in the day, Mossad assault teams and their secret sort of...
He dressed up as a woman once to do a raid on a house.
Like one of the things they love to write on his Wikipedia to be like, Like, oh, isn't he jolly and fun running in and shooting all those terrorists dressed as a woman?
Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
Did he really do that?
Did he actually dress like a woman and go kill a bunch of people?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But those were back in the day when he was doing proper operations.
Later on...
That's nuts.
There's no XMOS ad.
Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
So he was running loads of different operations, becoming high up the peck in order.
He was Prime Minister.
He was the guy who first announced Osama Bin Laden on American TV.
Yeah, that's highly suspect.
I know, I know.
That's so highly suspect.
You want to be suspicious of that.
And, you know, he's been...
Big player in world history, but got involved heavily in tech and was obviously linked with Unit 8200 because Carbine 911, which him and Nicole Junkerman were in, it was called something like Reportee.
Initially, it was called Reportee Homeland Security.
Sounds awful.
Ehud Barak, Pinchas Bukhras, who was the head of the IDF at one point.
It was something along those lines.
He's like chief top dog of one of the wings of the Israeli military.
Every time they say, oh, he was the head of the IDF, which I think he was, it makes me go, no, that just sounds absurd, doesn't it?
That these people are all in the business together.
There was...
Two guys, Amir Alakai and another guy, Dezingov, Alex Dezingov, who they were both like Unit 8200 guys.
One of them had worked for the Prime Minister's office on cybersecurity teams.
So they're obviously the top Unit 8200 characters.
They all started this Report Your Homeland Security that soon becomes Carbine 911.
It's, you know, their original site, which you can still find on the Wayback Machine.
It's got, like, all of the board with Hehu Barak coming out.
Nicole Young coming out of the shadows.
Pinchas Buchwas coming out of the shadows.
You know, these guys looking all naughty and like they're up to something.
And they changed their name to Carpine 911.
And what they were were at R. And they've done stuff during COVID as well.
And they've increased their...
They will grow.
They will grow.
What they've done is got between us and our emergency services.
When you call 911 in the States, you'll be calling Carbine 911, and they'll decide how to action, whether to actually get real police involved.
Or send drones out and stuff like that.
So it's a way for the police services to give money to a private company.
Private company, you know?
It isn't really company to do the thing.
This board is nuts.
Like, their advisory board is Secretary Michael Trudoff.
Yeah, no, they had to replace it after my article.
I love it.
They had to replace their entire board.
All of them.
Because they were all...
I was like...
Epstein, Thiel, Ehu Barak, and Junkerman are all...
Invested in that company by 2017-18.
Christian Nielsen?
They all invested.
They panicked after my article and it got loads of traction.
She went after it.
I mean, she's gone after me in multiple courts in different countries.
She's had all my videos pulled that she can possibly have done.
That tells me what a platform is really like by whether or not she's managed to affect that.
She had to go off all social media as well.
She kind of just, like, disappeared off most social media.
She has, like, basic PR stuff go out.
But they changed the entire board, and they changed it with people like Michael Chertoff, a neocon!
Like, for me, who's part of the Alliance for Securing Democracy that runs out of the German Marshall Fund, which was set up by Guido Gohmann, who's Henry Kissinger's best mate.
Like, I mean, that's just insane.
Like, kicking your dirty laundry back out of the water.
Yeah. It's like, no matter what, the...
Connection always comes back to dirty, bad people every time.
I mean, I look at the whole history of it, going all the way back to the beginning, the part that people always emphasize, you know, the trafficking part.
But the other part that people never really talk about with Epstein, which was covered by Webb quite a bit, is the financial conduit of it.
Which, when I look at this lady's history, what it screams, Conduit of money.
Essentially, the fact that she flew solo with him really is of note, because that's effectively two rivers, two tributaries joining together to make a greater river right there.
Boom, boom, boom.
And all of this time, after the time she flew with him...
They're meeting senators.
What's happening at the time?
Well, it's a run-up towards the Iraq war.
In a month, all of the Senate will have a vote as one of the first votes in the House.
I think it was the second vote as a new term of the Senate.
I can't remember what they call it when they have a new Senate or whatnot.
The first vote was the Amber Alert Bill.
Hillary Clinton putting forward the Amber Alert Bill about missing children.
So they were now in control of missing children.
Can you imagine what that means?
The trafficking, the people who were linked with all these traffickers are in control of reporting missing children.
And then the second bill was, it may have been later on anyway, but it was an Iraq war vote.
At the time, we know from leaking out later on was the Luntz-Wexner analysis.
Of course, they went over to Wexner's mansion in the UK.
And the Luntz-Wexner analysis, this was Frank Luntz, the pollster, the Democratic sort of pollster.
And he really still works on lots of different campaigns to this day.
And Les Wexner...
Looking into how to get people to support the Iraq war for the benefit of Israel.
It's an amazing paper.
The Luntz-Wexner analysis is just like through the looking glass stuff.
And this is all around this time.
So it feels like they're turning in the same circles.
Again, what I see here, and other people see this differently.
Most people who seem to be within this circle of investigators will look at that and only see the Mossad and only see Unit 8200.
But I see, when I look at the Epstein case, I see MI6, I see CIA, I see Mossad, I see...
FBI. All of them.
Every single country.
Every single country in the Western world.
Tons of NGOs.
I mean, they've got mechanisms to control the NGOs.
Me and Khan Disley did this.
It was just an amazing journey.
It really opened my mind to things.
We did this article called The Non-Governmental Octopus, showing how they increased the use of non-governmental organisations from around 1989.
They started creating coups in countries in Eastern Europe, and they would use, at the start, 50...
250 NGOs to enact a coup in the country.
That's the power it took at the start.
By Ukraine in 2004, they had 30,000 NGOs working in Ukraine alone.
That is just insane.
And it basically...
It changed.
It changed almost every single facet of society round to be anti-Russian in a matter of a year or two.
You know, the enacting of that many NGOs had such a massive power to drive stuff.
That's why Georgia's banning NGOs, you know, or saying only a certain amount of money can come from abroad, something along those lines, I think the terms are.
But yeah, these guys have all of their mechanisms and stuff.
They're all...
Youngkerman, she is one of the wealthiest women around.
She had a satellite array.
Yes, this is so fucking interesting.
How did she have this satellite array technology?
It's a strange technology because it works on 2G or 3G.
Listen, How Nicole Junkerman, her NJF capital and other things, she is very successful.
She invests exactly the right thing in a way that feels like conduit.
It makes you think that this must be that she is getting amazing advice.
Let's say we can be positive.
She is getting amazing advice.
The same amazing advice someone like Jeff Bezos would have got, but from David Shaw back in the 80s and 90s to put into Amazon.
Whoever gives Warren Buffett advice.
Yeah, and they do.
Whoever tells Pelosi.
Whoever's giving Pelosi advice.
They're traceable.
You can go back and see who could put these people into those situations, but she,
Swarm. It was...
Everything's so evil.
Everything's like you work in Sith Lords.
Yeah, for real.
It's just awful.
Swarm. The satellite array that was saying, oh, we could make it possible for this farmer with a plough out in the middle of nowhere to...
What? I do what?
Apparently he can now have 2 or 3G signal and etc.
But this was brought out by Starlink and she got a stake of SpaceX.
So now she's in bed with...
Oh, she's in bed with all of the big boys, you could say.
Hey, I...
It's insane, man.
No farmers can shitpost now.
It's important.
I'm pretty much impressed by her.
I'm pretty much impressed by her.
I mean...
It is very impressive.
As far as the sort of, like, elite Bond villain characters go...
She is by far the favourite that I've investigated so far and the one who's least likely to have done the worst things.
Right. You know.
Right. So I kind of, after all of this time, even though she's gone to a Berlin court to try and censor me, even though she's, like, she had to divest herself in some way from what was going on in Britain.
And they've been, like, systematic with taking my stuff off.
I got contacted.
By a microtasker who is like, hey, hey, I'm really sorry.
I was working for a microtasking platform and one of my jobs was to search for your name and try and have you take it off everywhere.
Yeah, and I'm just like...
Holy shit.
Sorry, my cat is trying to scratch at wires.
That would be bad for me.
She has Elkin, O-W-K-I-N.
They closed a million dollar financing for AI and drug development.
So she's in drug development too.
So the whole reason why I was like, I've been watching her for a while.
I've been watching her probably for about a year beforehand.
I didn't know how to approach her.
I only started journalism in about 2000.
2015-16.
And I've got no training in, like, history or English through, like, universities or colleges or anything.
I just kind of, like, I have a massive...
First, for wanting to know more about situations, and I got quite a good analytical and logical mind, and I started to hone, to understand logic by about that time.
So I was really realizing that this was quite an important case that no one had really identified yet.
By 2000, when I'm putting this out in 2019, it was like this woman was involved in the Health Tech Advisory Board that was...
Giving Matt Hancock advice on the future of the NHS, the NHSX.
And these guys would...
And she was publicising, you know, they're invested in Oakland and she's publicising, oh, we've got a massive win.
We get access to all the NHS databases, etc., etc.
This is all the data war.
This is the gobbling up data.
The companies who get in between make all the big bucks.
And in there was also Daniel Korski.
And Daniel Korski has got intelligence written all over him.
He recently tried to run for mayor of London as well.
Which he will get.
He will get eventually.
Eventually, Korski is a man.
He knows how to do stuff.
He wouldn't like me.
That's for sure.
I wrote a good expose on his ties, so he'll know my name.
I find it really interesting because they're basically creating a data panopticon.
The same people, they're always connected with people like Teal and Musk as well because they're making the databases that are going to chain us all.
You know, as human beings, this is a fact, as human beings, we're all compromisable to some degree.
It doesn't have to be the worst thing in the world.
Some people will react because they feel guilty about something that is really insignificant and silly.
Nowadays, we're dealing with a level of where there'll be, or in the near future, definitely, algorithmic understanding of what we've done and what we haven't done.
And that will allow them to push us in loads of different directions.
And that's what a lot of my work on the nudge units was looking at as well.
And what was the behavioral economics with the course that Musk attended at the Epstein funded edge.
Yeah, I did want to get into that.
The economics thing.
It's crazy.
Behavioral economics is just like psychology, man.
It's psychology 101.
It's not even about economics.
It's about saying to someone, yeah, it's like certain aspects of things like using the psychology of scarcity against people.
So they love the fact that you're poor and you're desperate.
So how can we use that psychology to better?
And to manifest the results for us.
Knowing that those people are going to react.
And that they're going to create the groundwork for it as well.
The poverty in the first place.
Yeah. And they'll be like, come here, come here.
I have the solution over here.
Here's the solution.
It's been industrialized for a long time.
I was just reading a post the other day.
Showing back over the years all these scare tactics that were fed to people.
We're going to run out of food next year.
We're going to do this.
I thought to myself, man.
Was the news ever not a doomsday cult?
It was just growing into a crescendo of really focused, targeted, like laser-focused.
That's what every single one of these schools of establishment psychology does.
It goes through a process of becoming laser-focused until it's really, really, really effective whenever they want to use it.
And that's what they're doing with nudging and behavioral economics.
Define in Nudge and other work.
Richard Thaler and Cass Sunstein, who design, like the fathers of behavioral economics, really.
Cass Sunstein's wife is Samantha Powers.
So that's something obviously a bit suspicious straight away.
But they call the people who will react to economic concerns in a way that it makes them manipulatable.
However you'd say it.
They call them econs.
And the rest are humans.
So they've defined their marks as something other than humans.
Already, their psychology is projected out in the fact that they say, okay, these guys are different.
They're money.
They're money.
They are literally the economy.
They are what we need to harness.
And it's like 70% of the people.
70% of the people.
Yeah, and if you push it up, if you nudge it up, the behavioral insight teams during COVID were using disgust, getting people to be disgusted with people who wouldn't have the book book, and then what do you do?
You make them all really, really, really, really like.
Oh, my God, it was shame, shame.
I'm getting shame.
I'm getting disgust.
I'm a disgusting person.
I mean, that's not nice.
They call it paternal liberalism or liberal paternalism, sorry.
Libertarian paternalism.
But it's nothing libertarian about it.
It's just paternalism.
It's just crazy.
People seem to have an odd perception towards where, unless somebody's slapping you and forcing you to do something, there's no force involved.
Taking away your job's not forced, locking you in your home's not forced, as long as there's not actually a guard outside.
It's really kind of absurd, the level of justification that people make towards, no, that doesn't count.
It doesn't count as being forced.
All everything was was self-censoring.
We did it all ourselves.
We locked ourselves down.
We kept ourselves away from other people.
We did that ourselves.
You made yourself do that.
I see this new thing going through the truth community.
But I did not make myself take a shot.
Yeah, where they're saying, oh no, you weren't forced to take the shot.
And I'm like, no, just because you were dragged down and made to, the societal...
Pressures were very much forced.
Massive. It feels like denial to me.
And a way to get people fighting that would be agreeing on things, too.
This is people in the truth movement that agree on everything else that still want to fight about stuff.
I hate it, dude.
The truthers, man, amongst themselves, it's the most disgusting thing to see them fighting each other.
A lot of that is a lot of...
Narcissism? Lots of narcissism, lots of rot, lots of co-opted people, lots of people who are pressured by their communities, pressured by whoever is the people who are feeding them out to their audiences.
Because most of these people aren't getting their own audiences.
They're feeding off through someone else's audience.
And so they have to have these really nice connections.
Listen, my times, learning how to actually make a living out of this, I really, with some of the work I've been putting out, I really should...
Probably be making enough that I could actually survive.
I've got to have a part-time job, do extra work, do all of these different things to try and get by.
It's a hard-knock life, but if you have to go up there and actually...
I made a soft ban out of it.
I made myself soft ban from every platform.
But if you actually try and do that, there's...
It's something that's so slow because actually getting that organically is a really slow process with a couple of boosts here and a couple of boosts there.
I've been going through that process and it's really frustrating but most of the times I get big boosts because they let me into their world for some reason for a second and then come out again.
I had it at the beginning of January.
This year, where I suddenly was in the Epstein file cases.
That was on all of the big X spaces with Mario Narfwiles people and other people, and it was all of the big accounts on there, and they gave me center stage.
They just kept calling me up as the main expert.
It's awesome, but it was like, I don't know where that came from.
I had six times, I was talking to Rudy Giuliani and Trump, not Trump.
What's his face?
Alex Jones at one point.
But I was doing that and it was just like whole bizarre run of events where I realized their audience is inflated as well.
Oh yeah, big time.
I did want to say something because you mentioned the Amber Alert thing and when I heard you talk about that before it's like When Laura Silsby, Hillary Clinton's bestie, went over there at their 10 little group and they tried to kidnap 33 children,
or there were more, because they tried it twice, got caught both times.
And then Laura Silsby, she was being held in Haiti jail.
Her first lawyer ended up being this...
He was already a felon for other sex offenses, other human trafficking.
He ended up being her lawyer, but then he quit.
The Clintons, who bought that lawyer for her, which is, that's a good point.
They bought another lawyer, and the Clinton comes out, the Clinton president, and he's like, the first thing we're going to do is we're going to get our friend Laura Silsby out of prison.
And this is during the whole Haiti earthquake.
And so they get her out, and then she goes to Idaho to become, she worked with Amber, Amber Alert.
That's crazy.
But they were already all over that.
I mean, that's the thing.
At the same time when the Amber Alert bill was being passed through the Senate, Epstein and Clinton were going off flying around the world in 2002 to Africa and Asia.
They weren't going out for sex parties.
There might have been a bit of that going on.
They were going from state leader to state leader to state leader doing what looks like CIA operations.
It looks like it's like some sort of just gaining sort of more influence and influence abroad and telling people, dictating people how it was going to go, really.
Yeah, man.
There's loads of influence around there.
The Clintons, they're all after the same thing.
They're all after covering up stuff for their mates so they can get away with stuff for this espionage.
The next stage is coming and it's going to be slightly different.
Yeah, I agree.
People are encouraged to compromise themselves nowadays at rates, which would be astounding if we probably knew how many people are being compromised.
And check this out, because these numbers are messed up, man.
So NCMEC lost 28,886 children, or they were working on that many cases.
And then NCIC was working on 96,955 active missing person cases.
So you have, what is that, 120,000 missing person cases.
In the United States.
Yeah, in four years.
But in the United States, in that same year, we're talking 2023 here, there were only 185 Amber Alerts issued.
And it involved 229 children.
So you have 120,000 missing children.
And a lot of these are juveniles who go back home, they get found and whatnot.
But still, out of 120,000, only 185 Amber Alerts are issued.
Seems like a pretty efficient program.
Yeah. I talked to a few people when I was doing the Johnny Radmore show on TNT.
I would talk to a few people who were either talking about these points from the position of the border.
Because a lot of those missing children are children that get sent across to a house where there's supposed to be 16, 17 other children, and they'll go to the house and it's empty.
There's just no one there.
So where these children are going, who knows?
But a lot of that is immigration.
Yeah, tons of it, tons of it.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's like, I think over a four-year period, it was something like the official figures in one place was like, I think it was like 80,000 missing children.
Again, these are all times when I say things like that.
My mind can't keep that information and accept it as true.
It just doesn't sound like it's possible.
You imagine how many people have gone missing in America over the past 40 years.
I mean, 50 years, 60 years, what's going on?
Well, there's a human slave market that's obviously and clearly happening, but it's not distinguishable to us, I suppose.
I think it's more people than you expect.
Oh, I agree, 100%.
We can't trust the numbers.
We just can't.
Even the experts in those fields, like, we can't trust these numbers.
Like the Out of the Shadows movie, film, whatever that was.
It was like, we cannot trust that 300,000 missing children.
Yeah, like, is that even an accurate number, or is it even more?
It just becomes, this is the thing about, this is about everything.
We get so desensitized to the amounts, and that just allows it just to keep going.
Because we're desensitized.
I remember that headline.
I think it was the one you were talking about.
There was a headline, Biden, under Biden, 80,000 missing children from the border.
When Kamala Harris was the border czar.
So, I mean, that was an issue, right?
A little bit of an issue.
80,000 children missing is a bit of an issue.
Bang up job.
Yeah, bang up job.
Ryan Mata, he has come out with a pretty damn good movie about...
The latest thing going on with the border and all these children.
He's gotten video footage at airports of NGOs actually passing these people through with children.
Passing them through and they're trying to talk to them and the NGOs are just like get the hell out of here.
Karate chop, karate chop.
You know, and they're just ushering all of these migrants through.
Passed all these checks.
Nothing dude.
Just come on in.
With our money.
And it makes sense that there are all these tiny little NGOs too.
I was thinking, why wouldn't they merge to become larger groups?
But then they could potentially be dissolved.
So you want a bunch of tiny compromised groups that are disconnected from each other.
That way you shut one down.
Well, that's 1% of the flow interrupted.
It's just loads of little drone organizations.
It sent a shudder through my spine then.
I thought of this.
But this is, again, I mean, another article I did just before the last one with Musk and Epstein, I was doing one about Eric Weinstein and his great replacement because Eric Weinstein, you know, for people listening who's like intellectual dark web,
yeah, and his brother's Brett Weinstein of Dark Horse Podcast, and they love him and they're connected to him.
Jordan B. Peterson and Ben Shapiro and all of those fun guys.
The cult of personality that pretends it's the opposite.
Are they part of the Joe Rogan cult too?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because Joe Rogan was part of the intellectual dialogue very early on.
And they all seem pretty connected.
They were all promoting each other, etc.
I mean, Joe Rogan just has him on all of the time.
And he's, of course, his numbers are boosted to an insane amount.
So it just looks like a propaganda outfit, really.
Don't stop from inviting me, though, Joe.
You know, let me on if you want, Joe.
I'll cause some fucking trouble, Joe.
You'll like a bit of that because you like disturbing, don't you?
Invite him on, Joe.
Come on, do it.
Eric Weinstein is a dirty, rotten bastard, I'd say.
I'd say he's a dirty, rotten bastard.
In 2000 to 2002, he worked for the United Nations.
He's claimed to be like, you know, this figure that doesn't believe in economic immigration as being a good thing.
Yet he actually wrote the report for a flagship program for the UN.
His own words were flagship program for the UN.
On economic migration for the benefit of all, as it was called.
And it was all about...
He mapped out how it will reduce the natives' wages.
Loads of native population will lose their jobs and stuff.
It will be a redistribution of wealth in that sense.
What's really interesting is some of the charts, some of the diagrams that were there for economic migration matched the diagram for Malfusian, the death of all humans.
It's very much he was planning out this sort of...
The world we're living in right now, the world we're experiencing, he was planning out in 2000 to 2002.
But then he changed his website and he didn't mention it later on.
He just didn't mention it.
Skip over that part.
Even worse, beforehand...
He wasn't really lying.
He doesn't really believe in anything.
Yeah, that is true.
He's just about power.
So, you know, I don't believe in it because, you know, I wrote this thing, but I'm full of it, so of course I wrote the thing.
Yeah, a complete teal boy.
Always trying to think outside the box, in a way.
Before he wrote the economic migration paper for the UN, he had also spent ages complaining about economic migration for wealthy people and academics.
Highly trained economic migration was not a good thing to Eric Weinstein.
But economic migration for the serfs, yeah, we're all in that.
We're all in that.
That's what he was about.
He loved it.
How elitist.
He's a boy.
He's a boy.
He came out, he got his...
He went to Harvard, of course.
He went to Harvard.
Yeah, I'm very positive.
He went to Harvard.
It was the Office for Naval Research program.
Oh, shit.
Yeah, that's dirty.
That's interesting.
That's interesting.
Sorry, I laughed a little at the end, kind of like in an evil way.
I had a backwards and forwards with Eric Weinstein afterwards.
He did?
Yeah. The first time that he commented on it properly, he was like, this looks like it comes.
So he said something along the lines, this looks like it comes from the conspiracy world, the world of Whitney Webb.
Shots fired.
Hamas Israel side of the blah-de-blah-de-blah.
And so I gave him a long bit.
Back saying...
No, this isn't from this or this or this or this.
This is from you pretending that you're someone else, et cetera, et cetera, when you've put out this paper.
And then, you know, he kind of, like, semi-apologized for suggesting that I was, like, Hamas support or whatnot.
It's complicated because Whitney's my ex as well.
So, like, you know, that's a little bit on the complicated side.
It was really straight and direct with him and he came back with me kind of apologetic but kind of calling me an anti-Semite.
And then he kind of quoted one of my tweets which was a question, a good question, that runs through time and will continue running through time.
There's been a lot of moments where there's been a lot of anti-Semitism in a lot of places.
Why has this been?
A really simple question.
It's a truth.
I would like just...
I don't think that's anti-Semitic to say...
If the problem is reoccurring, then any rational actor would come to a certain conclusion.
What is that conclusion?
But it's hard still for people to talk about it because...
Man, they know.
They know what's coming.
Oh, yeah.
Soon the ones who don't say what they're supporting are going to be the ones who are seriously the trouble.
That's it.
We're in trouble.
We're in trouble, folks.
I've gone to the point where I believe in Canaanites.
I believe in bringing back Canaan.
Get rid of Israel and Palestine.
Let's go back to 2,000, 3,000 years ago and let's go to Canaan.
Everybody's like, the genetics are nearly all Canaanite anyway.
They're all 50% plus Canaanite, so why not?
Why not?
So I'll just be basic general dirt workers.
We'll build pyramids.
We'd have to send in some people to beat them with sticks to make them do this.
But apart from that, the solution is foolproof.
But how would they generate the agitation they need?
They need these problems.
That's the thing.
They want and need these things.
You deserve what you get.
They monetize them.
Yeah, you want these things, though.
You want to get hit with this stick.
You want this stick.
And then that leads them into being like the fucking CIA hedge fund Qintel.
Well, sometimes nudging doesn't work, and you gotta push.
You nudge, you nudge.
You give up and replace them.
Well, we're all being pushed all of the time anyway in our own society.
So, I mean, it's expected that that would become the natural state of things that they think.
It's like NGOs.
If you have enough of them working all together, resistance is futile.
You have to become a Borg.
You're going to have to take the parts and stick them in your face.
Eventually, that will be literal.
That won't be just like I'm not making some form of proverbial comparison.
It'll actually be a literal thing where we're having things put in our head because that's what the state demands of us.
I'd like it not to be, but it sure seems to be headed that direction.
Will refuse.
100%. Thank you.
I don't think you can refuse dust.
See, I feel like it wouldn't be pushed on this generation.
See, I don't think it would necessarily be pushed on this generation.
And they would want people to accept it.
They don't necessarily want to force it on people to accept it.
Because that doesn't give them the satisfaction.
They want people to want it.
They want the dust in their nose, the micro dust right in their nose.
They're like, spray it from bees.
I don't give a shit.
It's like, you know, let's just go all out.
Well, they'll give up and force it.
It depends how good the technology is.
Where you take the dust in.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they don't trick you into it because they want it to be entirely your fault.
I think that's what we want it to be like, but that's the opposite of what it will be like.
I think transhumanism isn't about us remaining human at all.
And that has to lead logically to being the change is going to be forced upon us.
And that's not like, oh, they take you, they drill a thing and they put a microchip in your head.
That will be just you're breathing in, you're consuming something and it's got some form of control mechanism that you don't...
I don't quite understand.
Whether it be something as simple as the effects of something like Soma, or whether it be something much more esoteric.
I mean, yeah, self-assembling graphene oxide.
That's all it takes.
That's the start of it, right?
I mean, I guess that's why in the end why it always fails in the simulation.
Because if people don't actually want it...
We're going to start talking about simulations on simulations with it ever enveloping and expanding.
Simulations coming off then infinitely because I think that's...
I was told by me and Joe Allen were talking.
Joe Allen of the War Room was coming on the TNT show and I was going to put forward the idea that Elon Musk is the created and manufactured antithesis of the prevailing World Order.
And he's been put out there on purpose and created to be such.
And he was going to put effort in to refute the claims to some degree.
And I like Joe.
He's always been nice to me.
He's never rude.
He's always willing to debate something.
Like, to a level, it's like...
Boss level.
Joe Allen is really good at debating.
He's a really nice fella.
I just like him as a person.
So me and Joe had this talk just before, the night before, or a couple of days before, we had a little conversation.
It was supposed to be a little conversation, but it was for about an hour and a half.
And he was asking what I believed in.
God to be like, or what I believe the reality to be made of.
And it was like, you know...
I've always come to the conclusion that it's probably, we're in a simulation, it's an ever-expanding, ever-enveloping, like almost game theory of the future level simulation that seems all real to us and must seem that way because we're the component parts and we're probably,
wherever contextually it's being run from, it's like a drop of a hat and this whole thing is run.
And he said that, Was probably very Gnostic in thinking.
And I think he's right.
I think that is like...
It made me question whether I even...
I don't even know whether that is good to look at as even being...
I don't think there's any other way out than to be like, okay, there's something bigger than everything else.
That's it.
There's something that is what we could describe as God.
And it has to be.
But how you get to that situation can often be looking into the void, because that's what I see Gnosticism as, is a bit of the void, like the black pillar of the past.
I mean, it's already pretty miraculous that we can realize there's an area outside of the room we're in at the particular time.
I mean, that's already pretty amazing.
The fact that we can be aware...
Of areas outside of our initial perceptions, though.
I mean, a significant portion of life can't do that.
Well, we think they can, but my cats were off it.
They're mental.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe they can do it.
I've done a lot of psychedelics in my time as well.
I did a lot of acid back in the day.
I come from the place where Welsh magic mushrooms grow in the hills just two miles away from me, so it's easy just to run up and get some and run back down again once a time, once the season arrives, try them out.
I've had loads of wonderful experiences, but throughout those experiences of things that kept, like, it just, you feel like there's hardly anything there.
You know, it's energy.
More than it's solid.
The idea of solid state is just, it feels like it's all energy.
Every time that I'm in a state that's altered from the physical realm, I just feel like there's nothing that's all, we feel it as solid, but in actual fact, it's all just energy.
We're just humming.
We're light humming in the darkness.
That's quite cool.
I'm into it.
Humming light.
I'm into it.
Play in a song.
Well, let's get into...
I want to know more about how Musk is connected with Epstein.
Okay, right.
Oh, that's fun.
Oh, man.
It was happening for so long.
I was saying on...
I can't remember if it was a show, if I was just talking to someone, but we were talking about...
I was mentioning the YouTube comment.
You know how it is.
YouTube comments get you or some...
Random video channel comment, and someone said on the read-through, good searching.
I didn't know if it was them saying, oh, good research, or just belittling the act of research.
And it's like, when you...
I could have come across this, and I probably have come across this, because I researched Edge.
Over the past six, seven years on multiple occasions, I've gone through up and down that site over and over again, gone through the archives over and over again.
And on many times, I must have missed this because you have to be looking for certain things.
You have to be looking for musks.
You have to look then at what he was doing there.
You have to understand that it was John Brockman and Jeffrey Epstein created by John Brockman for certain reasons with certain scientists around and what those scientists were doing at the time and why Epstein got involved with it.
You've also got to know that Musk went to courses which were run by Richard And these guys are like big in behavioural economics.
I mean, Richard Thaler is the father of behavioural economics, the father of the idea of manipulating the masses' psychology without them knowing so that you get what you want from your people.
That's the basis of it.
Manipulate people through advertising, through careful wording.
To make the majority of the population do what you want and walk your way, whether that includes making other people hate other people, etc.
That's serious stuff, and they're playing with us.
They feel like they have the right to play with us.
Well, you have to realise what that ideology is.
It may sound like economics, but it's actually more behaviour, it's more psychology, and there's a real sharp end to it.
To the stick, I've been saying it's really true.
It's like there's the blunt end, which is, oh, you should eat less bad food for you, you know?
The food is bad for you, no, stay off it.
And there's a really sharp end, which is, you know, I will divide your family.
I will make people commit suicide.
I will make people agree to kill another person.
I will make people do whatever you want, because whatever the government want is whatever they're pushing at the time.
And so you'd have to know all of those things, and you'd have to realize what that means and what context to time it is, because that's what finding this article was.
It was actually multiple, like, different...
I had gone through researching Richard Thaler for a newshound.
I've done two news hounds on Elon Musk.
I really wanted to write an article about Elon Musk.
I wanted to start a Spaceman series, really, where I.
Yeah, I did.
zip to net and sight back in the day in 97 98 you can see on his bio on
The Wayback Machine.
And it says he was working for Microsoft at one point.
So there's a load of hidden stuff about Elon Musk.
And his grandfather is obviously Joseph Haldeman, who was one of the founding members and leaders for Technocrat Inc., which was one of the first transhumanist sort of technocratic organizations that was based out of Canada that was kind of like a fundamental...
And Elon, once you know all of those things, once you see all of those things, you can see that in 2008, when there was a six...
...part course run out of a Jeffrey Epstein-funded program that's on psychological manipulation.
And the main people who are in the room are Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk and Daniel Kahneman and other people who are really important people.
Nathan Mervold, who's the head of Intellectual Ventures, is there.
He owns patents for 7,000, 7,500 different patents.
Patents and patents pending around the place.
There's Sean Parker of Napster fame, who was also later Spotify.
Teal's Founders Fund, he represents also Facebook during that time.
So you've got the heads of like, you've got heads of people representing Google, Facebook, Twitter at the time, the future ex-person, all going to learn how the top guys, all learning.
How to manipulate people's psychology.
So nuts.
Yeah. And what better place to use it than a social media platform where you can get everybody fighting with each other just simply by choosing what appears in front of their face.
What we've learnt over the past few years, they've known since back ages ago because they've mapped out how the technology will work.
That's what I kind of researched with David Shaw and D.E. Shaw.
When he set up that, that was to do that.
They were looking for all of the markets for the future.
And they knew there was a big technological paradigm shift coming that was the World Wide Web.
And he jumped on that.
David Shaw was so good at doing that that in 2002, he left D.E. He's short behind.
He went into bioinformations research, biomedical stuff that is basically kind of like an alternative version like the mRNA stuff to medicine.
And it's going to make him loads of money in the future.
He's good at seeing trends.
These people see the trends before they have them, map them all out using computer modeling, and then say, okay, now we have to create that.
With our own leaders that we're going to put in.
So working for David Shaw was Jeff Bezos, who's there all of the time at Edge Foundation, is in this course with Musk.
He's the head of Amazon, of course, during this time.
And he's always at the Edge events.
He's Jeffrey Epstein-funded events, along with Jeffrey Epstein on multiple occasions.
But, yeah, these guys all learn how to manipulate us early on.
Parts of the courses were, like I talked about earlier, psychology of scarcity.
People, when I...
When I came out with this article, it's a load of Musk fans.
I mean, you have to realize how quite unpopular it is when so many people have had behavioral economics worked on them by Twitter that were X over and over.
I put it out on X and some of the responses were really angry, angry people who were sure this is their hero, this is their savior, this is the one.
It's this time, guys.
Who's going to get him, fellas?
We're really doing well.
We've got the guy.
Their responses were wildly angry.
And they were like, oh, just because you got him in the same picture as Jeffrey Epstein at a meal doesn't mean anything.
No, no.
You've got three or four courses where it's got minutes to all of the meetings.
So you know what they're talking about through all of the meetings.
That's not just a little bit of evidence of what's going on.
That was like the conversation they were having in the room full of the elites in a place that was being funded by a guy who was trafficking children after he was already arrested and he was already
going through.
So it's like Musk was essentially selected because he lacked the stigma of a lot of those other tech people.
Imagine Jeff Bezos or...
Jack Dorsey or freaking, for that matter, Bill Gates.
Imagine one of them pushing your Neuralink on people saying, you should put a chip in your head.
That's a great idea.
People would be like, that's sci-fi.
That's insanity.
You're a freaking supervillain.
Shut the hell up.
But because it's this counterculture personality who fights the system, you should put a chip in your head.
Oh, I can put a chip in my head.
It hurts my brain.
It's a beautiful little...
You could be fooled that easy.
Yeah, it's a beautiful little switcheroo.
And the thing is, this is why I think that Time Musk worked for Microsoft before he's working anywhere else, before he's doing anything else, before he's got his big companies, his own companies.
He's working for the guy who's currently going through the World Economic Forums.
A leadership training mill to create more young leaders in the future.
Was Musk one of those young leaders that was selected by people like Bill Gates?
Because Bill Gates was going to edge in like 98, 99, 2000 maybe.
I mean...
Yeah, it was there often.
All through the 90s.
It's unbelievable.
Sergey Brin, Larry Page, Eric Schmidt, and Moshe.
Sergey Brin all over the place.
Yeah, yeah.
And you think about some of these people, right?
Okay, so...
At this one that Elon Musk was at with Richard Thaler about behavioural economics was Salah Kamanga, and he was the head of YouTube.
He would step down in 2014, and Ann Wojcicki, who is the head of 23andMe, would become the head of YouTube.
And they were both at the EDGE meetings together.
You know, these guys were at the Billionaires'Dinner in 2011.
After Epstein got released from prison, Elon Musk is in the same room as Salah Kamanga, who's in the same room as Anne Wajiki, he's in the same room as all of the rest.
He's in the same room as Epstein.
These guys are all mapping and moulding our world.
They're the top people who are in control of every lever of power if you were to use psychology on people, behavioural economics on people, that you could control society.
These are the people who can do it.
If you want a...
A darkened room where the people sat and talked about how they would manipulate us in the future and they're the top guys and the elites of the world.
This is exactly it.
This isn't just like it.
This is the darkest, naughtiest people planning out how to control us and how to manipulate us.
So if this group is doing this, what are the Bilderbergs doing?
That's the same thing, but like...
The steering committee is steering.
There's loads of different facets.
These guys are doing that fundamental behavioral psychology, how to manipulate the masses by creating our social media companies to be like this.
They're part of, you could say, and they tried to build, I mean, the article in Musk and Epstein, it was called the Third Culture Dossier.
They were trying to build a third culture that kind of arches over, like a third culture arches over the two separate parts of science, the physics, biology, chemistry, maths, you know, the formal sciences, and then you've got social sciences and political sciences.
They can never kind of meet, and they try and bridge them on top.
Well, this is what's happening all around us right now.
They are fusing everything together.
As much as we possibly can.
What was your question just then?
Because I was...
Oh, I was just saying, like, you have the group, the smart Brockman Musk, you know, master class group things who are manipulating our minds through tech and tech companies.
And then you have the Bilderbergs, that super secret group, doing, like, a political agenda to manipulate political and financial or something.
Let me go back to 1896.
I mean, they're also manipulating your enmity.
They're kind of laundering who gets hated.
All the enmity that should be generally lumped upon all the tech douchebags dumping crap on us just ends up being put on these effigies of everything's their fault.
Like, you know, the Bill Gateses of the world.
But in actuality, you know, they're all working together.
Yeah. So they're looking at that guy, not trusting him, and then thinking that this other dude who's also working with him is going to save you.
These are all tables in the ballroom of power.
So you've got tables with Bilderberg, CFR, you've got tables with all these edge people, social media, etc.
And they're all working together in the same area.
The pyramid has not got a...
Nice spike on the top.
It's really flat.
And it's a load of different entities working together.
And they all know their level and place compared or in comparison to the people who are above and the people who are below.
But I really want to go back to...
Describe this as something that really, 1896, an article by Alice Ricks, who was an amazing, as she worked for the San Francisco Examiner, she was an amazing journalist,
a really vibrant woman, who would go to a situation and explain it in a really poetic manner, an over-the-top manner, but she investigated Bohemian Grove.
Which, of course, happens near San Francisco, by the Russian River, which used to be owned by the Russians once upon a time.
And she does this amazing piece where she explains about the three parts that make up Bohemian Grove.
The government man, she gives the government, she rolls the official up into this establishment guy, and then you've got the Bohemian.
Bohemian, and then you've got the intellectual.
So the intellectual tells the government man what to do.
This is social science guy, science guys.
They tell the government what to do, and the government go to the bohemian and say, tell those people that's what we're going to do.
And then the bohemians go out and sell it.
So that's as simple as it is.
It's the intellectuals.
Tell the government how it's going to be run.
The government get the bohemians to do it.
And that's what we see all of the time.
We don't understand the connections.
And then the bohemians go out and those are the actors and the news people and the figure speakers.
Everyone we love, the cover girls.
And that's what Bohemian Grove is.
It's split up in those three groups.
Even in Bohemian Grove, it's split up into those three groups.
They understand how power is divided.
All of them come together in loads of different scenarios and situations to hammer out the fine detail.
Society doesn't get changed in just one course, a six-part course funded by Jeffrey Epstein.
Society gets controlled by loads of different programs, courses, NGOs, little ones all over the place.
Like you pointed out with the NGOs, if there's so many organizations all over the place, you take out one, all of the others just gain the power from that one.
So they keep it like that.
And these guys are all crossed over.
And every time you investigate them, you realize how they're linked with each other.
So I really do think that as well.
Alice Ricks.
I want to do...
I'm going to start...
I promised myself I'm going to start reading Alice Ricks articles as well, doing read-throughs of Alice Ricks articles, because you can go back in time and they just have...
Hide that down.
Ricks is R-I-X.
R-I-X, okay.
R-I-X.
If you've got a newspaper.com subscription, you can go and read...
Alice Rick's articles and they are just extraordinary.
Late 1800s.
She has this really peculiar story and she kind of just stops being a journalist one day.
The way she described things could make anybody understand at the time and she investigated everything at the time and you see the comparisons of what's happening now were just exactly the same back then.
I did the same with the pandemic.
I looked at 1910-11, the Manchurian plague outbreak where all the international community and medical people got together and they created the N95 masks and they created quarantine zones and they created...
loads of different things they all tried out their potential vaccines on different inmates in different Manchurian prisons seeing how many would die and many would die and how many
Exactly the same.
Exactly. 150 years ago, no one's...
It's like we just labour under the same platonic system of intellectual elite rule through secrecy, where no matter how many times you change the coat of paint, which is the government, the paint on the outside,
nothing really changes because the guts remain.
You could replace them all and completely revamp the system, and it would be the same within a few years.
In 1910, 1911, during the Maniturian International Seminar that was run by a guy called Dr. Wu in China, where all of these guys, like Dr. Strong, came over to represent America.
Even Kitasato Shabasaburo, who was the most evil Japanese, he would test on, when they took control of China, he'd do loads of tests, really evil tests on the Chinese people.
He was a really horrible person.
Even he came over.
But the British guy who came over, who I've nearly written an article, a full article about his life.
I've never heard that name.
has exactly the same last name as Jeremy.
Farrar, who was the person who Fauci and Witte, as you see in the BuzzFeed news leaks, all information they got from Freedom of Information request, that it was Jeremy Farrar who Witte and Fauci were saying he's in control of everything,
of what we do, how we lock down, how we do everything.
It all goes through Farrar.
And Farrar's part of, I call them the welcome five, the people who were connected.
The Wellcome Trust in the UK.
And he was the head of the Wellcome Trust when they basically handed over all organisations for all the vaccines, lockdown, stuff like that, all went and got outsourced to Royal Society people that were linked to Farrar.
Now, was Reginald Farrar related to Jeremy Farrar?
Over 150 years, you've got the exact same thing.
The person who takes the lead for the British and goes out and does an international seminar about plagues, getting rid of vaccines.
He was a vaccinator around his area as well.
That's another story in itself.
But was he related?
And it's really interesting because when Jeremy Farrar's father was born in 1917, Eric Farrar, he's born to parents who are 54 years old.
And I don't know if you know this, but it's really hard for a 54-year-old man to get a 54-year-old woman pregnant, even back in the day.
Pretty difficult.
Especially back in the day.
Between the last baby.
Yeah, yeah, there's an 11-year gap between the last baby.
And Reginald Farrar's brother, or cousin, I think it was his brother, was also called Eric Farrar, and he was a naughty bishop.
Who is one of the highest in the church.
Their father was one of the eight people who was around Queen Victoria.
Jesus. So we're like the main representatives of the church in relation to Queen Victoria.
So this Farrar family, same people controlling it back then as control it now.
Exactly the same family, that's why I reckon.
That's crazy, man.
This whole thing is nuts.
You're just so full of information, it's amazing, dude.
I don't know how you retain it.
My head is like a sieve.
I know what I know, and I know that I don't know loads, so I'm just going to keep shoveling it in there for the time being while the mind works.
I suppose it's having to be...
Listen, one of the things is about retaining information.
Retain the information because I'm going to have to research all this stuff bit by bit.
That kind of sticks it in there.
Then I'm going to write it all down bit by bit.
That sticks it all in there.
Then I'm going to draft it like a hundred times because I, like, language-wise, I wasn't really trained.
So I just got to keep, like, keep reading it and going, no, no, I just, that's not good enough.
And I got to do it again and again and again and again.
And it just gets to a point.
And then I do read-throughs and I do other things.
And then I go on loads of podcasts.
So by the time I got to recall the information later, it's like I've...
I've sung it a thousand times, you know?
Yeah. You're ready to go.
Like, I just write, you know, I gather my, you know, we go like two hours, so I'm writing 25 pages or so.
Write it out, type it out, rewrite it out, edit it, all that, and just, I don't know.
This is 105 shows so far.
I started bringing on more guests, so I did less research.
But it's hard.
It's hard like that because you have to know what you want to research and you have to be motivated to it as well because there's plenty of stuff where like I start looking into them like switch off.
My brain's just not interested.
Just not going to take it in.
I find also that I...
I was brought up in, I say this, I've said this a few times, and it still makes me feel a little bit strange inside, because I was brought up in the 17th century.
So I was brought up in the Sealed Knot organization, which was like reenacting 17th century battles of the English Civil War with Oliver Cromwell versus King Charles, etc.
And my dad was...
8,000 people on a field with cannons, muskets, swords, pikes.
My dad raised a regiment called Colonel John Birch's Regiment of Foot, and it was 250 members.
It was just party galore.
It was massive beer tent, band playing.
When there's 8,000 people on a field, it's just a festival every weekend.
I used to secure a campsite.
The amount of beer that's drunk is insane.
I'm growing up in that and just like I had a kind of really free life when I was young that was indulgent in history in a way that I would go from say like Monday to Thursday or Friday I'd be in school and I wouldn't be able to talk about anything that I'd just done.
You know, they're just like, no one understands.
Even in high school, you just...
One time, like, my history teacher, when I was about 14, 15, my history teacher asked me, Mrs. Challenger, I love Mrs. Challenger, she was beautiful, she was fire!
She was, you know, she punished me more than anybody else.
She was like one of the scariest.
Her eyes would bulge up when she was angry at you.
She was like, but she was just so, it was so authentic.
She authentically cared about teaching me history, whether or not I could take it in or not.
And she knew that I loved history.
And she knew I was wrapped up in it with these things.
She asked me to bring in some clothes from the sealed knot.
I remember the class's look on their face, you know, just, like, the imagining, like, oh, my God, he wears this back.
I'm hanging around in the 70s century, man.
We're all in breeches.
We're all in breeches.
We've all got these, like, long shirts on, little hat.
Just, like, we're roaming around having, you know.
Oh, always banging, shouting explosions in the background.
I used to go to musters.
We used to go to musters.
I used to sit on the gunpowder.
We'd have a big metal case of gunpowder, and I'd sit on that in between the motorcar van that we had, and we'd drive to a muster, and I'd just be sitting on the gunpowder the entire way.
It was a different time.
Life was just a bad head.
It's safe, whatever.
Yeah, my dad was wild.
He was a wild boy.
He was a naughty boy.
Man, that sounds fun as fuck, dude.
I've been to a couple of Renaissance fairs and it's fun, but man, one that has 8,000 people.
Oh, the seal was crazy back in the day.
I think the numbers have gone down drastically.
When it was at its peak was back then in the mid-90s.
It was just wild.
And we had our own regiment.
I mean, this is another thing.
The regiment.
He taught me something simple.
My dad, back home, my dad was a steel worker.
When he wasn't Colonel John Birch's regiment at foot, when he wasn't hanging around in scuba diving gear, when he wasn't doing all these other things, he was very much like Homer Simpson.
He worked as a wire tester, building big bridges, but making the steel to build big bridges.
He worked in the actual steelworks, Allied steel and wire, before he got shut down in Cardiff when all of that sort of...
And he was a really like, I mean, my dad's...
He's still around.
I don't talk to him much because he's so nuts.
But he was a big socialist.
He believed in labour.
He marched with Neil Kinnick because he was a steel worker who was a bit of a firebrand in the UK during the 80s.
There was a lot of union action against a lot of mining strikes in South Wales.
Turmoil galore poll tax riots back in the day.
Those strikes over there are violent.
Yeah, they were mad, man.
It was like literally Ely burned down.
My dad was from Ely.
My granddad used to run the roughest pub in the roughest part of Cardiff.
It's crazy.
Over here, it's like picket fences and they just walk in circles chanting.
You've got to compete with the French strikes where they shut down the entire city every time.
I lived in France at one point when they were having I can't remember what they call them The strikes over there.
But, oh, look, grave.
Grave. Yeah, grave.
But, like, my dad was really, like, politically actively involved, but not in a way that he actually campaigned for people.
He'd just walk alongside, wanted to show his support, you know, cared about the mining, steel community, all of the same thing.
So he was very much on that branch.
He was the commanding officer of a 17th century regiment with 250 people who were from different areas of Britain who were factional, who had their little groups, and they were constantly arguing with each other and fighting over the scraps that they could possibly get and eventually succeeding in working politically to take down my father and divide the regiment,
where the regiment split into two over a massive political...
And one part, my dad said, all right, have the name.
If you want the name, take it.
And we became, we went over to the Royalist side and became the Queen's Guard.
Queen's Guard.
But the whole point, I mean, the whole point was like, I got to see this breakdown, like the masses, the nights of conversations.
My dad was on the telephone arguing with people, trying to keep the...
It's all pervasive.
It gets everywhere.
You can't hide away from it.
Even if you think you can create a fake society where everything will work, well, I can tell you, the Sealed Knot had the inner council.
The Sealed Knot had this council in Valdes at the top, and they hated my dad as well.
And they stopped from him having promotion all of the time.
They'd have all these promotions.
You had orders of the day come in every month, told you all the people who got promoted and loads of different things.
It was a proper outfit that represented in many ways, even when it didn't mean to, actual society, but in a different way.
So let me see loads.
Destroyed it just like they would in a normal society.
Amazing. They destroyed it.
Rules, rules, rules.
A renaissance reenactment ruined by political entry.
It seems fitting.
My dad was so passionate about it.
I got to see...
One of my first memories of the sealed knot is when I'm like about four or five.
And it was just as my dad had first created a regiment with these, like they had to have 12 people to create a regiment.
And it was about 1984, 1985.
And they were a bunch of...
I mean, I've heard the stories.
I know exactly what they were like.
There's a story with my dad where one of my sister's friends was really young.
She was about five years old.
And she's dangling off the edge of a cliff.
She's falling off the side of a cliff.
And she's holding on to the stone and she's crying and screaming.
And my dad and her dad had smoked so much weed.
They had two...
that they were having laughing shit.
Jesus Christ.
So we're now back to come and save her.
My dad was one...
That's fucking hilarious, dude.
My dad was so weird.
My mum loved T-Rex.
She saw them when they were Tyrannosaurus Rex back in the day.
She loved them.
She was well into them.
She met my dad and he had to come along to some T-Rex.
He just hated most music.
Nearly every music.
He would only allow a very certain select amount of things to be paid on the way down to Mustards.
Luckily, my mum would We fight against it, but my dad didn't like...
So he would go outside and he would break apparently during the time of clogs when everybody was wearing clogs.
They used to take their clogs off to go to the dance floor and then they'd dance.
They wouldn't allow clogs.
So he went round, he put all their clogs in rubbish bags, took them out the front, he threw them in the bin and then he smashed glass on the floor outside.
And he stood there having a spliff, watching all the...
Honestly, my dad used to tie a piece of string around his sister's foot.
His sister was years younger.
She'll attest to this still now.
I'm sure she wouldn't be that disapproving of me telling this story.
I'm sorry to my auntie if she would be.
But he'd tie a string around her toe.
They lived in a pub.
And he'd put a penny on the end of the string and he'd throw it out the window.
And then he'd go and he'd party all night.
And then he'd sneak back and he'd pull the string and she would wake up and sneak downstairs and let him in so he wouldn't get a hiding from my granddad.
Because my granddad ran one of the roughest pubs in Cardiff, it meant the police were always there all the time.
So they all knew my dad.
And he would get lifts home all of the time.
Apparently he had an Afghan jacket where he kept all of his weed on the inside, safety pinned in, so he could set it on the street.
He was a naughty boy.
But, you know, watching him go, watching him...
In a political sense, it was really weird as well, because you got to see someone who actually cared about something.
When they created this, they were naughty boys looking for a naughty time.
There were 12 of them.
It was really quite cute, but then they actually put in a hell of a lot of work, a hell of a lot of effort, arranged massive battles.
People would come to the battles.
It would be like 16,000 coming to each of the battles, and they are learning history.
It was always like festival, fairground sort of stuff going on as well.
So, I mean, those were good days for everybody involved.
But then, you know.
Over time, politics rocks everything.
Someone wants to be in control of your stuff.
Eventually, someone looks at your stuff and says, Oh, that's nice stuff.
I want that.
I want that stuff.
I want that.
Yeah, I'm a gamer, so...
People are coming after your games, dude.
So yeah, plenty of games have been ruined as of late.
It's like, I don't really mind if you make political games that are stupid.
It's more so annoying when you take existing properties and make them suck.
DEI bullshit.
So when your politics wears the skin suit of a better game, yeah.
I feel like that about Civilization.
I feel like that.
Man, Civilization VI got to the point where it was just like, hey, it's all climate change all the time, baby.
That's all we're going to do.
Climate change, climate change, climate change.
Everything's got a kind of like this sort of...
We just sanitize boring crap all the time.
I miss nuclear Gandhi.
Nuclear Gandhi, yeah.
Where you give him one nice thing and it makes him completely hostile.
Yeah, we're safe.
Alright, Johnny.
One question.
Maybe two questions.
Maybe three questions.
Maybe five questions.
What's the one conspiracy out there that you're just like, bullshit.
That's fucking bullshit.
Get the fuck away from me with that.
Wait a minute, there's loads of those.
What do you mean?
What's the one?
We can think of plenty, yeah.
What's the one that just pops off your head?
Because I know there are tons.
There are tons.
Okay, I'm gonna...
At this point, I'm gonna just say...
All of the Jeffrey Epstein case, how it currently is set up, what people think has happened and what has actually happened, just two separate things.
And reality and fantasy are like right around the corner from meeting up.
There is going to be a reckoning.
It's going to be a big reckoning.
Massive. This thing was set up on purpose.
The first time it was set up, the first case was set up on purpose to fall apart.
Or at least to give him just a year in prison with an open jail cell.
A 2016 one?
Yeah, 2009 to about...
Yeah, that one.
Yeah, he serves like 12 months of his supposed to be 60 months.
He got extremely special treatment.
Extremely. He got to open up his own non-profit in there.
Yeah, well I know he was able to go to his office to do work.
And he'd have to go back.
Yeah, he had an office created.
I mean, they got around the whole thing and he was still doing business out of his prison cell in that sense.
And then he goes...
Like Al Capone.
Yeah, yeah.
And he is very much like Al Capone.
He's a financial Al Capone in many different ways.
Maybe that's exactly what they got Al Capone on.
Taxes. Taxes eventually, something like that.
But... The second one, everybody thinks, was a real...
That must be when they got justice.
You know, when they hung him, obviously clearly killed him in the prison cell.
Yeah, that's not a time when they got justice either.
Who is the only person so far who's been prosecuted?
It's Glenn Maxwell.
You couldn't get anything else through.
JP Morgan's got a slap on the wrist.
Yeah, that's it.
Who gives a...
There's all of these victim groups.
The victim groups are consistently aiming to try and press new cases, new charges, so that they can make more money.
And that has become a complicated industry in itself.
And the lawyers involved are...
So corrupt.
They're on the far end of the corruption scale.
I mean, they'd have to be.
What I think's happened in this case, and also, and this is a really big one, and this one we mentioned earlier, is that the fact is that the Epstein case wasn't just trafficking of young women for sex.
In actual fact, the majority of trafficking...
People don't really realise what it is.
It's not the majority of people who got abused didn't get trafficked across seas to royal kings or royal queens.
The 99.99% of all Jeffrey Epstein sexual abuse was girls being groomed for him in Palm Beach and New York and etc.
and being brought there to give him these filthy massages and sometimes sex.
And it was lots of girls all the time by including some of the named victims, supposed victims that have already been named.
So there's already...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Virginia Goufray.
I mean, there's some...
When I was going through For One Nation Under Blackmail, Whitney asked me to look at all of the different things, the African and...
Trips around Africa and trips around Asia.
I had to look at some of the Wexner stuff, early Wexner groups, but also the witness and the people who were actually claiming to be victims.
And that got really complicated really quickly.
I mean, I was in touch with one of those.
I'm going to choose not to say her name on this occasion, but most people who know about my stuff know who I'm going to talk about.
But one of them had changed her story a thousand times, but I thought she was a real deal at one point, and it was before I realized quite how complicated the case was.
I started researching because of that happening, because I discovered that someone who claimed to be a victim wasn't all she claimed to be.
Didn't happen, really.
It would be insane if it happened, because we're talking about a paedophile abusing a 24-year-old, and that 24-year-old acting like she was a little child for some reason.
It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
The whole thing is just like, yeah, and Glenn Maxwell's there, too.
It's a weird fetish thing.
Yeah, it was...
I looked at all of the profiles about who Jeffrey Epstein was.
He was a preferential...
He liked girls young.
Clay Maxwell facilitated that so that she could hold power in that unit, and she did it quite well.
He would sometimes, he had a big sexual urge, so he would sometimes have to accept people like Sarah Callen.
Sarah Callen, or at least one of the victims who was believed to be Sarah Callen, and she's one of the main facilitators, Sarah Callen.
If everything's true that we know, Sarah Callen should obviously be in prison, but it's not as easy or simple as that because they had to keep everybody out.
They had to manufacture the case.
So they did.
And the truth about what was going on with the case is just astounding.
The people who were acting for the main bulk of the victims were eventually Edwards Pottinger.
I've done loads of work.
I've done a series called Searching for Stanley, an actual documentary series.
It's about Stanley Pottinger.
I've written three parts of Pottinger Identity, Pottinger Supremacy and Pottinger Ultimatum.
And it's amazing.
One of the lawyers for Jeffrey Epstein's victim was responsible for...
Covering up and signing off the official investigation into Watergate, the official investigation into the assassination of Martin Luther King.
This is during the 70s.
Was involved in getting the CIA permission to surveil domestically after the assassination of Orlando Letelier outside Embassy Row.
Was involved in being a representative for the Kent State Massacre, against the Kent State Massacre, the supposed shooters who shot the students in Kent State.
The four died.
He was the one who was representing the opposite side and was like, oh, we lost, but hey, shucks, what about that?
Was central to Wounded Knee.
Was recorded through Iran-Contra being one of the main facilitators and the creators for all of the...
Gun smuggling to Iran, the armed smuggling to Iran that was part funded by Jeffrey Epstein himself and Adnan Khashoggi.
This guy, Stanley Pottinger, who's a lawyer for Epstein's victims later on, the second case, he's like...
He's working with Cyrus Hashemi to create the link between the CIA and Pasandida, who was Iranian official, and they did then negotiations with Ayatollah Khomeini's...
Grandson or son, one of the two, or nephew.
But whatever, they basically arranged and facilitated...
Iran-Contra for the CIA so that the Iranians could hold the hostages for just after October and create the October surprise that put Stanley Pottinger's best friend where his best friend just happened to be George H.W. Bush who was the head of the CIA and of course then he gets into power with Reagan after his mate helps with October surprise all the time.
All of this time, he's the boyfriend of Gloria Steinem, who's a CIA feminist.
So he's obviously even in bed with the CIA, and he's CIA himself.
Holy hell, yeah.
And then in 1984, they have to split, because in 1984, it gets revealed by the New York Times that Stanley Pottinger may be indicted for Iran-Contra, because federal agencies have bugged all of his telephones.
I got to ask him in the next space why he didn't.
And indict Stanley Partinger.
And he was like, oh, I don't remember that case at all.
But, ah, yeah, of course you don't.
You rather.
Hey, that's the number one quote of the FBI, is I can't recall.
For real.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
George H.W. Bush eventually pardons all the people who were involved in the October Surprise.
And then afterwards, the October Surprise Task Force shows all the information, showing Stanley Pottinger was central to arranging and facilitating Iran-Contra, which was, again, like I say, funded by already in the 80s.
So this is before...
May I make a big note here?
That's like Highway Rock.
Boss CIA doing all the cracking shit.
That was all that, too.
Defund the Iron Contra shit.
I mean, who else would you get involved in the Epstein case apart from the highest fixer who's done the best thing as well for all time?
He ends up becoming a novelist in the...
1990s and he writes a load of best-selling novels and tries to repaint himself.
Why wouldn't he?
Gotta rehabilitate that career.
I've turned over a new leaf.
I'm definitely ex-CIA.
Yeah, most definitely.
That's so hilarious.
And then he goes back into law properly because he was running a law practice alongside Cyrus Hashemi back in the early 80s, but then he got into the stock market.
He admitted he said he shared an office with Jeffrey Epstein, which what it is, is they were arranging their own contract.
Of course they bloody shared an office.
But regardless of that, Stanley Potter got...
This is such a...
This is such an amazing...
Because Bradley Edwards, who's the other lawyer in Edwards-Pottinger, this firm that made that, before he's met Pottinger, he's already kind of meeting Jeffrey Epstein in cafes with associates to watch over them, some sort of wardship, fighting him on different battles.
And they have this really weird relationship already that seems really close that he talks about in his book, Relentless Pursuit.
And it's all very weird.
Once it's decided that Jeffrey Epstein is going to be prosecuted, the FBI go to speak with Virginia Gouffre in Australia and she agrees to be part of the case, comes back in 2013 or 2014.
She comes back and she's now central to the case as a central witness.
And Bradley Edwards, he brings her back, he meets her, and I think it's the very next day.
It describes how Stanley Pottinger phones him for the first time and says,"Hello, you may not know who I am." But I'm Stanley Pottinger.
I did all of this stuff.
He didn't quite frame it.
Of course not.
But he was like, I hear you're involved in the Jeffrey Epstein case.
And that's very interesting to me because me and my friend David Bowies are very interested in this case because we're representing the client too.
And then they have this backwards and forwards and then they eventually meet.
Bradley Edwards thinks that they're CIA so he wants to get a tape recorded so he can record the meeting secretly and it all goes wrong and he doesn't end up doing it and he goes in there and the whole time he's questioned himself in relentless pursuit but is Stanley Partinger CIA?
It's clearly he's CIA.
He seems to be like the Winston Wolfe of the CIA and he actually asks him at one point in his book he asks Stanley Partinger are you or are you not CIA?
And he's like oh Oh no, you know, I'm not CIA.
And then they have this bit where he says, Bradley Edwards says, but we both knew that probably wasn't true and we laughed or we laughed and we weren't sure if we were laughing because it was true or because it's insane.
He's clearly stating he's the CIA.
He was in bed with the woman who co-opted the feminist movement for the CIA.
He ran loads of CIA operations.
His best friend was the director of the CIA.
He ran Iran-Contra.
He became...
Central lawyer to Epstein's victims.
Control your enemy, control the establishment, control the other side too, along with David Bowies.
And David Bowies, then we go back to what did David Bowies do?
One of the first things he's involved in is...
He's sorting out the aftermath of Drexel, Burnham, Lambert, you know, with Farajan and Michael Milton and the Bond.
He's the one who does that.
He does the hanging chads.
He represents Al Gore with the hanging chad election.
He's the one who prosecutes Bill Gates in 1998 Microsoft Trust thing, and that seems like a game, you know.
Represents Harvey Weinstein.
Why not?
Why not represent?
Represents Ferranos.
Represents the blood scandal where they were pretending they could do that blood test really much quicker than normal blood test, but actually the woman was just completely lying.
And Henry Kissinger and people were on the board.
And then David Bowies becomes the lawyer for them.
And then he goes and he installs himself also on the board of Ferranos.
Is he part of Balenciaga at all?
I wouldn't be surprised.
David Bowies is an extremely interesting character and what was more interesting is when Bradley Edwards went across to meet David Bowies and Stan Pottinger, he realized they were in the same building as Darren Indyke,
who's Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer.
It just happened to be there on the same building.
Oh, hey!
Good to see you!
Good to see you!
I saw you down at the coffee machine earlier.
Yeah! What have you been doing?
Trafficking, smuggling guns, you know, the usual.
What about you?
Hits him with his elbow?
Yeah, man.
Honestly, it is ridiculous.
Ridiculous. The case is ridiculous.
So why would it be like this?
Why would it be that ridiculous?
Not only does it have to be co-op.
But it has to be co-opted in a way that it can fall apart.
All of the tools that they use have to think that they're going to continue to make money until they don't.
And then they better have good lawyers and enough money to pay for them good lawyers.
Because the state don't come calling for a lot of different reasons.
Ghislaine Maxwell's trial has been...
Set up to fall apart.
Undermine it with certain people who they can undermine later as witnesses.
And then, boom, you've got the case slowly falling apart.
An appeal possible.
And you'll have a change.
You'll have more evidence than you had before.
And the case will collapse.
They need Christine Maxwell, Isabel, all of the Maxwell family.
They're all in...
Incredibly important part of the intelligence infrastructure.
You know, it started off with the promise software for the Maxwell family, but it advanced very quickly for years, and they now got their fingerprint all over the place.
Ghislaine Maxwell smiles away because she knows she will get out eventually, because the case has been made to be undermined.
And most people think it's only about child trafficking.
Like I say, 99.9% of it was awful.
It was girls from local schools who were being...
used to feed Jeffrey Epstein's two to three massages that he required a day to keep his business mind.
That's how he worked.
He wanted that.
That's what he got.
He trained all of these people, many of them who claim to be something else, and now he trained them to do that.
And eventually, when people work out that...
What Jeffrey Epstein really was doing, he was a political influencer for Democratic leaders, training Democrat leaders after the CIA took the White House under Bill Clinton for sure.
I mean, that's for real, real.
When Bill Clinton took over, the CIA were in office, and then it was a case of getting people like Jeffrey Epstein in 17 times over the first two years to organize CIA operations.
One thing I've got to say, which I didn't say earlier, that I've really got to say, Epstein doesn't start working for Wexner, doesn't meet Ghislaine Maxwell until the late 80s.
And he's running CIA operations in 1980, at least, with funding of Iran-Contra.
So you can't have him as only Mossad.
I just don't believe it.
I don't believe it.
Just because he got into those relationships later on, they're all working together.
Like with Carbine 9-11, they're all in bed together.
They can make Ehud Barak and Michael Chertoff interchangeable.
They're the same creatures, the same entity out there.
And so this whole thing's been set up.
If we want conspiracy, it's to make people think that he was only a pedophile sex trafficker.
That's all very good.
But he was also a massive political influence.
So we're democratic leaders.
He was meeting up with Joe Lieberman, who was a potential and became Gore's deputy vice president pick in the 2000 election.
You had Gore himself was meeting with him.
You had RFK Jr. meeting with him.
You had Bill Richardson.
He was a potential for vice president at one point as well.
You had John Kerry funding him.
Chuck Schumer was there too.
All of these guys were the potential leaders of the Democratic Party, and every single one of them had to go and talk to Jeffrey Epstein so he could see how they could be helped so that later on he could call in favors.
That's as simple as it is.
That's insane.
Yeah, so he was doing that, but he was also really good at arms smuggling.
He's really, really efficient at facilitating it, funding it.
Getting all of the parties together.
So why wouldn't you have him as that?
And that is a global thing.
So he was like an interlocutor for the CIA, in my opinion, for bringing in weapons in and out for technology and for other things.
And that's what we see with Ehud Barak, who's, of course, linking him with all of these big tech businesses.
And what's he doing?
He's going off to work with Jeffrey Epstein and setting up companies like Carbine 911, which is...
The intelligence infrastructure taking over.
The globalist intelligence infrastructure.
Them all working together.
At the same time, he's meeting all of these other scientists from all around the world.
It doesn't matter where they're from.
If they've got power, they're meeting Jeffrey Epstein.
And they're being told and coordinated on what to do.
So he's like an interlocutor for tech, for science.
He brought frickin' Hawkins there.
Even built him a little miniature yellow submarine for Stephen Hawkins.
Guys, I'm telling you.
It's all of the way.
Epstein wasn't just one thing at all.
He was so many.
He was financing.
He was a whiz at doing all of the things that nobody else knew how to do, wanted to do, or, you know, had the connections to do.
There's not many people like him.
All right, Trump.
Trump. Is he connected with Trump?
Yeah, yeah, but Trump, it seems, in about 2003, 2004, maybe a little bit before, I can't quite remember when the first reports were in, but he cuts off Epstein really early on.
He sees him as toxic.
I think he knows what's coming.
Trump's got really good advisors and he knows what's coming.
And he distances himself and bans him from Mar-a-Lago.
And he probably banned him from Mar-a-Lago because he brought in a young girl and probably was a bit sleazy in public with a young girl in Mar-a-Lago.
And he was like, "You don't do it in public." Doesn't mean he was upset about him doing it in private or whatnot.
It just means that
So I don't know.
Some of the other reports are from people who I do not believe at all about him being in with EPSCA coming over to Epstein's all the time.
I don't think there's any reason why Juan Alessi, who was a housekeeper for Epstein, would lie.
He wasn't making any money out of it.
There was nothing to do.
He seemed to be crapping himself.
You just wanted to tell the facts.
And it does back up that RFK Jr. has lied about his relationship.
That has come out.
There's no doubt that Trump has been a naughty boy in the past.
No doubt.
Is he a prolific, preferential pedophile?
No. He likes the ladies.
And that's human nature.
Loves his own daughter, so it's like he likes them old.
I mean, he did say he liked him younger, but, you know, that was back in the day.
Now he's older.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
With Trump, he's all bombast.
You wouldn't even know what's true and what's not.
I had this liberal...
He was like, oh, good article about Musk and Epstein and all this.
He was like, you should concentrate on the fact he grabbed women by the pussy, though.
It loses everybody because, you know, people do naughty stuff all the time.
That whole language of someone saying to someone else, oh, I'd like to grab her by the pussy, it's just human speaking.
It may work on 50% of people, but 50% of people would just switch off and be like, I just don't give a...
It's just all like...
You keep saying it after...
These guys keep saying it after seven years, eight years, and just repeating the same sentence.
It hasn't worked at all.
If they want to find something out about Trump, they've got to look deep into other things, not the things that aren't working.
And if they're not finding stuff, then there's probably a reason to that.
What I would say about the Trump family that no one else is saying at the moment is a family.
If you look out on X, I think they're trying to make Trump's family a dynasty now.
They're pushing Barron Trump.
I'm not sure if it's too late for Donald Jr., but they're pushing Barron Trump out there.
They're pushing the young Trumps out there, the girls.
I'm seeing them more often.
Planning to make it a dynasty.
And these guys are all working off dynasty.
They're all working off dynasty.
Maxwell, Robert Maxwell, was hoping that Ghislaine would get together with the Kennedy family and that they would merge their families and that would make their family more prestigious.
So, well, Ghislaine Maxwell slept with JFK Jr. at one point.
I was going to say before his death, but he would hope so.
Yeah, who knows really, dude.
You don't really know.
Otherwise, it would have fit better on last week's episode.
Oh, fuck, yeah.
It would have.
I think she is...
I think she had tried a bit with RFK Jr., but she was interested in JFK Jr.
But he wanted, like Robert Maxwell wanted them to fuse their houses together so he could build a dynasty.
This is what it's all about.
Kennedy's did the same.
Robert F. Kennedy's mum, if you follow...
I do deep ancestry family history stuff.
And I did Jordan B. Peterson's family history and go back.
And I've already done a load of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s family history.
And I've done Jeffrey Epstein as well.
I haven't shown those out yet.
I would like to see that.
Yeah, it's interesting.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., I can tell you, though, is the mother's side is all Prussian royalty when you get back in the day.
It's still the same thing.
You marry into dynastical families for a reason.
I mean, Jackie Onassis was a dynastical family as well.
You're looking at bloodlines for a reason because you want that international power that comes with it, and it does.
It really does come with it.
So all of these guys.
They choose.
They switch between each other.
Keep it in the family.
Jeffrey Epstein's family history so far is interesting.
No matter who takes over, it's the same people.
It's just a big, giant Blackrock family.
So Epstein's alive.
He's probably on Neckert Island with Nygaard or whoever owns that fucking thing.
They followed him good.
He's dead.
Did they kill him?
They just don't need him.
He wasn't like Ghislaine.
He didn't have a whole family with fingers in all the pies.
He was just like...
And Ghislaine's a narcissist.
She's not going to give a shit about him getting the thing.
Time comes to an end for everything that they do.
It's not like Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein was a romance.
She was into a...
If you look at the witness statement, she was into a style of abuse that was watching and experiencing other people abusing and then getting off on it.
Knowing that she was having the control to trap a young girl into a situation that made them really nervous and that she was providing some form of power to something that was evil.
Sounds like a mother goddess.
A dark mother.
She had...
Some severe issues.
There was...
Oh, man.
There was a load of...
It was a woman who...
Her father was the head of one of the big newspapers, while Robert Maxwell was one of the big newspapers.
I can't remember what her name is.
She lived nearby.
She used to spend all the time because she had fantasies about having a romance with Robert Maxwell.
She was like 15, 16. And she said that Robert Maxwell's wife hated her.
And she was involved in helping bring up the kids at some point as well.
And some of the stories she told were just...
Dirty. They used to whip the children when they were naughty.
They got lashings.
And they got to choose the whip of their choice.
And yeah, there's loads of elements of this sort of kinky, saucy stuff.
I was sometimes given a choice between a belt or a spatula.
I just got chased, man.
I was always given the choice to quit acting out and being a little shit.
You're lucky.
I always chose not to.
Well, continue, Johnny, because this story...
I'm just into what you're saying here.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, the whole Robert...
I heard this one, like, rundown of Robert Maxwell.
Sort of the life they were leading.
Ghislaine Maxwell's sort of sitting down.
Robert arrives on the helicopter, walks up, has a little brandy and something else.
And they say, what are you doing, Daddy?
I'm going to go do some business.
And then gets back in the helicopter, just wanted to have a quick sip and bugger off.
The Maxwell's, he was creating, like, he was looking, he really...
We've found it really important to create a dynasty.
One of the earliest times I can find him is being stopped by the, I think it's the father or grandfather of a woman called Tomine, who's a journalist over in The UK.
And he's working on a roadblock in British-occupied Germany.
And Robert Maxwell comes by as like a Czech junk salesman and they identify him as probably being intelligence.
So that could be very much a moment where he's recruited by British intelligence.
Robert Maxwell sold out every single person he was in.
Yeah, it's cut through.
Every single person.
That's what got him killed in the end.
He was a bad boy.
Like, you know, he sold off the Mirror newspaper.
He was the pension funds.
And then he sold off the people he was supposed to supply that money to as well.
Like, he would constantly scam people.
And he was brilliant at it.
And he would just live off caviar.
And brandy, if I remember correctly.
What a life.
Or champagne.
Yeah, completely crazy.
And some of the stories with Robert Maxwell is like Brian Mulroney, who is the Prime Minister of Canada, talks about him one time.
And it was like he called him one day and said, come to meet me at the Ritz.
I think it was in Montreal or somewhere.
And he goes down to meet him.
And he says he goes into the main ballroom and there's Robert Maxwell sitting alone.
Obviously, he's probably eating with everything, just sitting alone in the big grand ballroom.
And he says Margaret Thatcher's going to step down tomorrow.
Like, he already knew all of the stuff before anybody else knew it.
And he would make sure that the people knew that.
And so they would all invest in Robert Maxwell.
They all trusted him.
He was, I mean...
A titan, this links to him all over the place.
Some of the stories are just fascinating.
And it's no wonder...
Into your citizenship with Israel?
Yeah, but so did...
I mean, the fact is, is Israel killed him.
That's pretty clear.
So, like, how solid Israel and Maxwell were is extremely debatable.
It was about as solid as the penny got in the back of his neck.
But he was scared he was going to be murdered by them.
So he did loads of, like, public displays of, I love you, Israel.
I love you, Israel.
I love you, Israel.
But he didn't love anything but Robert Maxwell.
I mean, they buried him in the Mount of Olives.
Right. And they buried him there because he's an extremely important part of history and also you wouldn't find the pinprick in the back of his neck.
Seal him away.
To a holy area where you won't be able to go see him.
Sorry, I can't exhume him.
Holy sight.
You're crazy guy.
That's crazy shit.
Well, we're at two and a half hours here.
I think we should call it good.
Yeah, good.
It's been a great goddamn show, man.
I love your style because you have so much freaking knowledge and I just love hearing your stories.
Your articles are amazing.
You're lovely.
It's so weird how Intel is designed to make people dumb.
Where can everyone find you, buddy?
Yeah, Newspace.com.
I mean, I'm always...
I'm on X way too much.
You can find me on X at Johnny Vedmore.
I refuse to call it X. I call it Twitter.
I still call it Twitter.
I know I did that for ages, but I've come to the conclusion that the bird is dead.
It's been replaced by a dark void of hate Nazis.
Black on black violence.
That's what they want us to be looking at.
And I get to see all the Elon Musk tweets all of the time.
But yeah, you can find me on Newspaced.
I got a Newspaced podcast.
I do a load of different shows.
So if you look on, even on YouTube, Rockwind, Rumble, whatever, I try and post up everywhere.
And I, you know, come...
I have such a range of work.
Such a range of work.
It's all brilliant too, man.
It's all so good.
You're very nice.
I put in a hell of a lot of work nowadays and I try to make everything I do, most things I do at least, Timeless to some sort of extent.
So that you can read them or watch them in five years time and they'll still give you the relevant information and wouldn't have gone stale.
So it's just the more I do now, the more it's there for people to find and indulge.
