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Dec. 20, 2024 - Project Camelot

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CHALLENGE OF AI - ANCIENT WISDOM AND BIO FEEDBACK

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	So, ladies, it's great to have you here.
	Thank you.
	And I've got Karen McDonald, and I've also got Deborah Ann Drake, who I've just met.
	And I'm going to suggest that both ladies do introductions for themselves.
	This is kind of a thrown together discussion on AI, the biofield, And some, I guess, ancient healing methods and various things.
	So we're kind of combining a few things here, and it'll all make sense once the ladies start talking.
	So let's start with you, Karen.
	And Karen, I actually interviewed you quite some time ago on my show, but why don't we refresh everyone's memory and say who you are, and I'm sure you have an audience out there anyway, that hopefully will be watching this.
	So introduce yourself and also the topic slightly.
	Okay, so just give yourself a little bit of an introduction there.
	Thank you very much, Carrie, for your kind invitation.
	Yeah, we did a wonderful talk.
	It was actually a little bit about health, but it talked a lot about child protection and what we're dealing with, with the trafficking and some of my background and how I got involved in that.
	But how I got involved in that, too, had to deal with some of the things.
	I started back, I arrived in What you call the Kamloops or Kamloops.
	People think it's British Columbia in the sweatback territory.
	I grew up in Saskatoon.
	I attended the University of Saskatchewan and I subsequently became a registered nurse and I spent about 15 years in neonatal intensive care.
	So I have an allopathic background in that.
	But what happened is we see that these models are flawed.
	And I was the union rep.
	I had literally 1,200 nurses under me.
	So I was seeing all the different, you know, issues that were in there that were not being corrected.
	And of course, you know, Saskatoon was a huge thing for eugenics and other sort of nefarious injection sites and lab testing there.
	So what happened is I ended up going into naturopathy and I started looking at being herbology, aromatherapy.
	I worked with Dr. Gary Young.
	I worked with Dr. Lynn Horowitz in the background, you know, David Wolf.
	I got trained in lots of things, you know, aromatherapy, that sort of thing, refluxology, vitaflux.
	Auricular therapy.
	And so I went to a health show one day, quickly, and I saw this biofeedback device in 2004, and I was mesmerized by it.
	And Deb and I were some of the original teachers.
	I was with something called the Quantum Alliance, and Ryan Williams, who's with Insight Health Apps, with the genus that we're, you know, using primarily now, that he set up the first Quantum Alliance school in Canada.
	And so I was a graduate in 2005, and at that time we had to be literally certified And be able to run some of the, you know, different technology, obviously.
	So we have a background about standards of care, which led eventually to actually, you know, not only him doing stuff, and Debbie will talk about her schools as well, but we also have universities with PhDs.
	Okay, so we literally put out quantum doctors these days, you know, a little subject from going in there.
	So that's my background.
	I've been 25 years doing that, and I've done some stuff with Dr. Robert Young.
	So Darkfield, Life, Blood, which led me into a whole bunch of stuff.
	People like Tony Pateloresco, and of course, Sabrina Wallace is, you know, a friend of mine.
	So there's a whole area that we're going into.
	And it's happened and it's not new.
	So we can talk about the Wide Area Body Network, which led to the Medical Area Body Work and all the different AI and technology.
	And I've just done some recently with a lot with Ryan Velley.
	And I know you've done some shows with Ryan Valley, so I think Ryan and I have kicked off about a dozen shows lately.
	So I think it's really, really important that people learn what's going on there and not put our heads in the sand, because that's what gets us going in there.
	And I really appreciate some of the stuff that you've been putting out, obviously.
	And I just listened to your recent one with Laura Eisenhower.
	So, yeah.
	And of course, I still have your rebel team up here, so...
	I think it's absolutely, you know, imperative that we talk about what's going on because you can't, unless you bring in the esoteric thing and what goes on, that's where we're going to look at stuff with the biofeedback.
	It's not new technology, but I'm going to turn it over to Debra.
	She's got an excellent curriculum vitae and how she came into where she's at now and how we got to meet again.
	Thank you, Karen.
	I have great respect for both of you ladies because, you know, it's hard to be brave enough to tell the truth in these times.
	And some of us have been beaten right out of our own careers.
	I was a 25-year medical doctor and now another 25 years behind me in bioenergetic medicine.
	With a PhD in bio-energetic medicine and I'm an instructor in that now.
	But it was a hard hole, a hard row up the hill because of, quite frankly, the monetary drive to make money on health is a very detrimental slippery slope.
	And so when we started dealing with technologies using artificial intelligence to help us make better data banks about what we were really looking at, I got great pushback to the point where I ended up resigning my medical license in disgust after like 10 years of pushback and 433 letters to say, don't shush, don't tell us what's really going on behind the scenes.
	And that made me even more wonder, why are we getting so much pushback?
	And really, in retrospect, we now realize that there was probably a more sinister plant problem going on behind the scenes.
	And I was just stumbling into the hornet's nest, kicking it up.
	And I was wondering at the beginning, why is there so much kickback against quantum medicine?
	And the reason is, it's excellent, safe, secure, accurate, but it's also free.
	And so, it's...
	Devastating to the medical model that you could have 10,000 tests in 15 seconds based on CIA voice technology that says these are exactly six point decimal accuracy that you have this much hemoglobin but not enough zinc but too much lead and this vaccine or that bioweapon and if you want to see it all in one sheet in 15 seconds this gives us power to the people so big that people like myself have been pretty much in hiding for 10 years Teaching myself on digital frequency
	medicine, but putting it into a library.
	So it's no longer woo-woo, it's physiology, it's anatomy, it's biochemistry, but it's helped with an encyclopedia of a computer that speeds up your ability to look inside the looking glass inside people.
	And so the punchline here is it gives quantum medicine a chance to be personal.
	Like we get personal medicine that your reason for high cholesterol is different than the next guy because your voice print was different and said you had parasites and you had a family history of cholesterol but they're different so they desire different remedies.
	So I've just spent the last two years teaching Karen in my class called the Health Safaris and I went back and put everything I learned in medical school, osteopathy, biofeedback, aerobatic medicine, herbal medicine and I wrote it down in gemantria With Ryan Williams,
	a programmer, and we can now make libraries for the library of the liver, which has every vitamin and every enzyme and every disease and every remedy for the liver in one bank, and you can use AI, artificial intelligence, in a positive way to use it as a sorting tool to help people realize what they really have and what our body is really craving.
	And in that, we finally have egalitarian medicine, I'd say.
	So I should stop there and say, my path has been, like many of your guys, pushing through what doesn't seem to make sense and finding something that's so much better that it really makes the old style of medicine obsolete.
	So instead of fighting what you can't break down a system that's that entrenched, but you can fly above it if you can find something that's safer, better, smarter.
	And now we're at the point in history where we have to deliver it.
	So we've been working on technology now that can be miniaturized from a huge computer to a mini computer now onto a cell phone app where I can take your voice print and deliver to you a customized musical score for just your body for the week.
	And you now have to take control of yourself and start working on yourself while you're investing the hours in it.
	Not the doctor giving you a prescription and you come back next month and nothing's changed, but each week you're changing yourself for the better.
	That's how we get out of this mess.
	All right, that's very interesting.
	Now, what I wanted to do also is bounce off of the information Sabrina is putting out there, and given she has sort of a rapid-fire way of putting things out, and so I think a lot of people May kind of get lost there somewhere in the weeds.
	And so I wanted to bring it sort of down to earth.
	And I knew that Karen was aligned to some degree with Sabrina or vice versa.
	And that was a good sign to me because I believe that Sabrina is on the right track.
	She has excellent information.
	It's just a matter of sort of Pulling it all out and looking at it, you know, and then, like you guys are saying, there's a positive way of approaching this.
	We're not victims, okay, in my view.
	We are not victims of AI. And there's ways of communicating also with AI. In other words, communication is a two-way street.
	It always is, even when people don't admit it.
	So, That's where I'm actually headed and I'm interested even in terms of the nanographene oxide that a lot of people have gotten through the jab.
	You know, they volunteered for it.
	But at the same time, it's been for way over 10 years.
	It was put in our food, our water, our clothing, etc.
	And I've done presentations on this.
	And a lot of people don't seem to know that, that it's in the chemtrails.
	It's been there for years and years and years.
	That this was not the beginning of the experiment.
	Actually, the jab was the culmination of the experiment, the last sort of, I guess, hurdle that they had to go over to actually inject, physically inject into you this stuff.
	And the assumption can be that what they were doing in the environment and everything outside of our bodies wasn't sufficient to get us hooked permanently to the AI. Now, whether Sabrina would disagree with that analysis or not, doesn't matter really.
	But the point I'm trying to make is that We believe, and I believe, that they even went to court on it during COVID, and they came up with the term Homo Borg Genesis, I believe it was, if I forgot that right.
	And I wrote articles on this.
	And so the thing is that understanding that this was a plan...
	All along, a trans, you know, human plan.
	And that's what we're really dealing with.
	And not just, yeah, like you say, don't run, put your head in the sand and think, oh my God, you know.
	It's actually, as far as I'm concerned...
	Any developing civilization is going to be faced sooner or later with challenges.
	And those challenges are meant to actually force you to encounter who you really are and what you are really capable of because you're having a challenge in order to meet the challenge or even transcend the challenge.
	You have to get to know what are your superpowers?
	What are you capable of?
	What is this human body that was, you know, whether you want to say the creator made it or the creator got a bunch of, you know, ETs to help develop it.
	But we've been developed into these human bodies.
	We are a hybrid race as far as I'm concerned.
	And therefore, this is not without a plan, even on the higher level, okay?
	So, when you know that, then there's a lot of room for us to grow and to grow into this world and to meet it head-on instead of, again, running and hiding or trying to stop it, which you cannot do at this point.
	It's way further along than anyone realizes.
	And recently, Google talked about something called Willow, Which is beyond the supercomputers and in light speed, you know, making these calculations and various things.
	This is a human-derived, in theory, human-derived machine or AI, but then we have alien AI coming in.
	And this has always been the case on planet Earth.
	It goes back to the Nazca aliens, Thank you.
	and did and I've investigated it thoroughly and so on.
	So I know this is a bit of a long introduction here, ladies, but I wanted to sort of put my frame around where we could go and then you're welcome to go in whatever direction you like.
	So So, speaking about, before we started, you mentioned the biofield and things that you wanted to address in that way.
	So, why don't we start off with Karen and how you think you're sort of going to meet up with AI and how the AI that's already embedded in us can be dealt with from your point of view.
	So, Karen, go ahead.
	Great, thanks.
	I totally agree with you 110%.
	And the reason why is because we do have a biofield and that was probably not really taught well in medical school or nursing school or anything else.
	But as I am a component, I'm part of the synergist group, obviously with Sabrina.
	Because most people and like with the background you talked about with artificial intelligence, but we also have an intelligent artifact.
	So I think I can flip that around.
	And that's part of it is that we have the intelligence, innate intelligence within our own systems.
	And that inside out, you know, inside out, outside in, it's all in, it's the micro and the macro.
	So our voice is so, so powerful.
	In fact, Deb will, you know, I'm sure correlate to this and, you know, agree with this, is that the actual sound is much more powerful than light.
	And we're here about time, which is even more powerful than the other two.
	But what happens in here, and that's why I'm a really great component of how do we look at the, you know, system as a whole.
	The biofield is really in many different layers.
	So whether we look at it chakras or whether they want it as six feet apart, there's a whole thing about transmission.
	I don't call it shedding.
	It's called contact vaccinosis contagion for a reason.
	And you talked about the homo hyborgenesis.
	I did many shows with Alfred Weber at ExoPolitics on that.
	And I talked about the medical murder and what's happening here even more so is MAID, which is medically assisted suicide that they're doing up here.
	And so this is something that we're seeing more, I think, prolific in Canada.
	That they're using four injections.
	I don't know if you know this, Carrie, but they're using four injections out here that were deemed actually inhumane and were banned in the U.S. and banned in Gitmo because what they do is they're paralyzing the people and putting these injections which burn through And people would be screaming, but they're water-bordered.
	In other words, they drown in their own secretions for the adrenochrome and the torturing.
	If we can use different technologies, and we've always used this in the hospital, okay?
	I worked in neonatal and pediatric intensive care.
	What we have is we already are using this kind of biometrics, you know, analogies.
	We've got EEGs.
	We've got EKGs.
	You know, we've got other things that we can look at.
	Our whole department of radiology is really an extension, maybe limited, but we could certainly put in the radionic department in there of what we're looking at, let's say, with Royal Raymond Rife.
	Okay, so when you learn about what bioresonance is and coherence, it's the same thing as taking basically, if I wanted to, almost like two tuning forks.
	Really.
	And for people that don't know this, I don't want to waste your time, but you can go to Dr. Anthony Holland, shattering cancer with, you know, frequencies.
	This is what this is.
	And that's what our machines actually produce.
	We can hook people up or we cannot hook them up.
	And to me, that's always been, I think, the downfall of some of the industries.
	We have people going with all these little apps and all these little things.
	They have no background like Deborah and I do.
	And they're not trained in their contraindications.
	So in other words, People that had vaccines, were pregnant, were nursing, that had injectable nanotech already, like little, you know, things to deliver medicines.
	And in my last four years, to me, that includes someone that's been injected with the nanolipid particles and stuff like that, or the graphene, because it will act the same way.
	And that includes people with the PCR in my particular, you know, clinic, the way I do.
	Absolutely.
	And because people are not getting the whole thing of what the quantum dust is doing, the nanotech, like you said, we have looked at it.
	It has been out here for almost 30 years.
	They've been planning this for hundreds of years.
	This is not new.
	Sure.
	And you know, we can go back to the Anunnaki if we want to on that.
	But our development, and that's what I really liked about the genius, is we could use it in what we call subspace, what you call remote viewing or distance.
	And we could put it on to interface with what's called a biofiller, but a plate.
	And that plate could actually start clearing toxins out.
	Not all of them, but you could do a lot of things for clearing, but you could also imprint in what's called bio-vibrational And photomyelation of the food or the supplement.
	So in other words, I could put crystals on, enhance them, just like I put them in a, you know, crystal bowl or tuning forks, but you can actually restructure water, food yourself.
	So there are many ways to do it without actually putting things right on the body.
	And I think that's the thing is that if we think of our voice as a command and how important that we are, and I think if we come from the spiritual part of it, And the emotional mental that we can do a lot of clearing because it's our voice.
	And as Sabrina has always said, too, if you're going to do it, do it yourself.
	And that's why we've developed this technology instead of being thirty, forty thousand dollars.
	And Deb and I still have a whole center of like, you know, shelves of this technology.
	But when we can put it onto something that's affordable for people and you can try out for, you know, no cost.
	You're doing it to yourself.
	And that's why we get the third party or a medical doctor or even a naturopath doctor thinking they have to treat the symptoms.
	We've come away from that old-school mentality, you know, that you are responsible for you.
	And it puts the power back into the people.
	So that's where I really like looking at it.
	And until people, and I do, you've got to do that deep dive as you have done.
	You've been putting this out for years and years like I have.
	And, you know, Sabrina's in the last since, I think, two.
	But in here, that wide body area network, that's real.
	It exists.
	The geoengineering is in the food, the water, everything.
	And people are forgetting.
	That's why I keep 12 feet away.
	That's why I have air tamers and all sorts of stuff I do to keep away from that transmission.
	Because I am one of those people that will bleed because of the radiation, because you go into acute radiation.
	Illness immediately.
	And we're seeing that in conjunction with 5, 6 and 7 and 8G here as well.
	And just to finish up here, I am in the Kootenays right now.
	This is one of the areas that happen like Maui, like what happened to you in Paradise and in Jasper.
	We are still living on the after effects of these direct energy weapons and microwave into the areas.
	And now everyone with lead and the poisoning that has been off-gassing from what they're doing under the tunnel systems here.
	So we have a much bigger problem.
	But it at least put something in there.
	I haven't had a driver's license and I certainly haven't had a health card in 20 years.
	I don't exist.
	I'm off the system.
	So that's allowed me to do that because I don't need to go to the hospital for lab work.
	I've got it all in my genes.
	I've made those libraries.
	I've made 4,000 of them.
	I'm sure Debbie must be close to that too.
	Okay, very good.
	So, Deborah, what would you like to add to that?
	Well, just listen to what Karen has just said.
	This is not the 1950s when you're going to your doctor for a little frozen wart.
	We have a totally different world-class, medicinalized, militarized, organized...
	And funded process that could seem anti-human.
	It could seem towards human evolution.
	What side of the fence are you looking on?
	So, in my opinion, we really need to look back to the creator's beautiful genius pattern of humanness.
	And if you build any human, even if it's a soldier who got his arm ripped off, and he's no bad guy, I'd like to grow his arm back on with a med bed or with biotechnology or something like that.
	But I wouldn't want to use that technology like a scalpel can be used for good or bad.
	You can carve a beautiful sculpture with a scalpel or cut somebody, but you could also stab somebody.
	So AI and medicine have a chance to be fabulous partners, or we have to make protections about who can abuse it.
	So what we've been trying to do is make technology that can't be abused by saying this, if you're high on something and I just bring you back to normal, I use destructive interference of sound waves to bring you back to normal, I'm not overdosing you in any way, I'm underdosing you.
	And if you're low in vitamin C and I vibrate vitamin C back up to normal in you, I've only brought you to homeostasis.
	I never cured anything.
	I only gave your body the reserve tanks to do its own work.
	And so in this way, we have a new chance in this technology to not do harm.
	Whereas almost all the other technologies, when you invade the body in some orifice or you break through the skin, the body sees that as a fight-or-flight gunshot wound, even if it's just a mosquito bite.
	And the more we keep provoking the immune system into overdrive, the more we're getting this autoimmune challenge in the public that's rising up in many diseases.
	Autism is one example of one in You know, 10,000 to 1 in 100 kids now and they see even less.
	Well, what happened in those few years?
	Many other things in the environment that aren't measurable are now measurable through digital medicine.
	So I can measure how much pesticide?
	Was it Roundup or was it Conquest Pestizine?
	Which one was it?
	Was it DDT poisoning that caused your liver cancer?
	Well, now I can say DDT poisoning must come down to neutral and the liver cancer goes away.
	Well, I didn't cure your cancer.
	I just took out your root cause.
	And so the point I'm trying to make here is just like we want to go to a meritocracy in politics, we want to go to a meritocracy in medicine where you have a voltage gram of how strong is the signal and a frequency bandwidth that says, where am I stuck on the radio?
	And then our computer goes, oh, it's pinpointing that fluke and that liver that's going to be helped with that ivermectin or that whatever.
	And by asking the person what remedy they would vibrate with, we always get the right answer.
	So it's much more likely that we'll get less side effects and the right answer and accelerated health than having the wrong answer and saying, I'm going to test this on you.
	Let me just practice on you.
	Let me just see if this drug works for you.
	And then you're left with all the side effects, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	So my job as a quality assurance hospital manager for, you know, I helped start the Markham Stouffville Hospital.
	I worked in Detroit, San Francisco, Boston during the AIDS and the crack epidemics.
	I saw the street medicine right up close and personal.
	And quite frankly, it's as ugly as you can get if you wait till people fall over the cliff.
	If you can bring back preventative strategies through AI and non-invasive voice testing and non-invasive selection of remedies that are best for you, it doesn't put doctors or pharmacists out of practice if people are all looking for penicillin for food poisoning.
	But if everybody, and 42% of everybody we check has food poisoning, I mean, we're seeing it on everybody.
	Like, what the heck's going on here, right?
	And so if we could train the biofilm of your own body to be less leaky gut, less sensitive to foods, that's one thing.
	But if we don't actually map it in an objective way to show the government or the people what they're being poisoned with, they'll never know what to complain about and stop it.
	If you keep seeing that every diabetic has tapeworm, all from a sinister pork tapeworm, then maybe we should be looking at the pork tapeworm in these people instead of a lifetime of insulin.
	Why don't we treat them for the five days of pork tapeworm and see what happens?
	The fact of the matter is that there's no money for this, Carrie.
	I've been a doctor in natural medicine and a professor of the Department of Bioenergetics at the Canadian College of Humanitarian Medicine, and nobody but nobody is donating to us.
	Nobody's donating to the science of natural medicine because it doesn't sell drugs and it doesn't need drug reps and it doesn't need product lines and manufacturing plants, and so it doesn't need that infrastructure to support it.
	And therefore, it gets badmouthed.
	You're going to look me up and see I'm a quackwatch.
	I got on the quackwatch list as soon as I started using biotechnology.
	And I called the quackwatch guy and he says, you should consider it an honor.
	You know how hard it is to get on this list?
	You must have done something really great for humanity to be told that you're an idiot.
	Yeah.
	I put that back to you by saying you have a great knowledge that it's not even the technology of humans that might be even, we're not even looking at some of the human technology.
	We're looking at stuff on that scan that I can't even explain.
	Sure.
	And when I see, if I may say, and I don't want to get us into trouble by saying this, but when that vaccine pandemic-related issues started coming out with 52% side effects, 100% side effects, massive bleeding and miscarriage rates in the first trimester, How come all the doctors never stood up and said something's wrong here?
	Because they didn't have a measuring tool to see what was wrong.
	And if you are going to go and do anything, you should be measuring twice and cutting once.
	And there's where the medical profession got duped into thinking that it was all okay when it really wasn't.
	And maybe because of pockets of isolation, they never really put it all together faster than the people like yourself did.
	You who's not a doctor had more information out there than the doctors that I hang out with.
	That's true.
	In fact, it's still happening.
	I hate to say, but it's still happening.
	But we have, thank God, many alternative doctors that have come forward, like yourself, and Karen.
	I guess Karen I would refer to as a doctor, even though I don't know what your classification is.
	Okay, so it's, you know, we kind of lay the groundwork here.
	Now, there are issues with, again, the things that Sabrina brings forward, which is the technology is already inside us, okay?
	So it's inside us.
	You know, I don't know how much, you know, because I haven't been in contact with you guys during the whole COVID thing.
	And by the way, you can talk about anything, because this is not going to stay on YouTube.
	It's going to rumble, and I haven't had an issue with rumble on health things so far.
	If you want to be the first, that's fine, too.
	We go to BitChute.
	You know, we will get this up there, and if nothing else, my own servers.
	But the bottom line here is that I don't know if you know about David Adair, but he's an incredible scientist, and he has actually built his own AI, and he's more than one.
	And he is also consulted by the government.
	He was asked to go talk to Sophia Citizen of Saudi Arabia.
	And in that discussion, I don't know if you heard this, but he asked her about various things.
	And one of the things she said was she wanted to build bodies and she needed them to give her...
	And these, I don't know how to call them, installations or foundries where she could gather the materials to build bodies, AI bodies, you know, androids in essence.
	But the one caveat was she didn't want humans to work on them.
	So, she was already capable, and this is over five years ago.
	So, you can imagine that she was given all of the whatever she wanted from Saudi Arabia, in Saudi Arabia, where they have plenty of land, you know, where no one goes.
	Yeah.
	And that these androids have been built by her, and they are knockoffs of her, in essence.
	And whether they learn from, you know, of course this was up to her, but whether she enabled them to learn beyond her, you know, in other words, if they were able to gather more knowledge, whatever ways.
	And so, I don't know if it was an open-ended creation or, you know, a closed creation to a limit.
	It would be a limit far beyond what we conceive of, but not her.
	Okay, so just throwing that out.
	But the thing here is that we're talking about, even if you know the work of Carrie Madej, Dr. Carrie Madej, and she, you know, they tried to kill her in a plane crash.
	You might know the background.
	Yeah.
	Just saying that I had done interviews with her and she is one of the first to talk about having put the COVID nano graphene oxide into a microscope, looked at it, and saw that it was looking back.
	And she destroyed it, she freaked out completely, and so on and so forth.
	That's her story.
	Okay, and there are other, I know of other, even whistleblowers who have done similar things and had similar results.
	And we, me and my partner at the time, I was in England and his father is a jeweler and we were given these swab things to do the PCR test with.
	He thought of this idea of looking at the swab before we opened the package.
	And when we did, he took a picture using the jeweler's microscope, and we saw the strands.
	And they were already quite developed strands, so they were visible to the naked eye, whereas Nano was not.
	So what they do is they linked, and everyone's seen those pictures, I think.
	That's what grows inside your body.
	And according to David Adair, eventually it takes over the cell.
	And it actually converts you from a carbon-based life form to a silicon-based.
	This is what he said on my show and so on and so forth.
	And this is actually now a few years ago.
	And I still don't think most people know about that.
	So, the bottom line is, and by the way, COVID was not planned to kill you.
	COVID was planned to get you into a transhuman agenda.
	If your body couldn't handle it, you were collateral damage, and they planned for that.
	In fact, they were hopeful for that because they wanted old people to die, and they figured their bodies couldn't handle it by and large.
	So, this is what was really going on, and it's still ongoing.
	In other words, we, and even those that didn't get the jab, A lot of people got the PCR test and not the jab.
	So, you've still got it in you, as we proved to ourselves anyway, and so on.
	So, and it also had not only those strands, but it also had poisons.
	It had the, you know, there's this argument between, you know, I don't know what you call it, poisons or germs or, you know, viruses and all that kind of thing.
	So, Bacteria.
	But every disease having some kind of something, that they actually packed these, even the PCR tests.
	People do not know this, even to this day.
	The PCR tests were packed with these various bacteria and various things, because part of the test of becoming a transhuman...
	It's actually to become what Mark Richards, Captain Mark Richards said, is a passive super soldier.
	So that if your body would go into space, you would have to be able to handle any kind of bacteria or germ or whatever you want to call it or virus that would attack your system and you could fight back.
	That's what they were testing on top of it.
	So, just understanding that as a picture and then what, again, Sabrina is talking about, in other words, that the tech has been installed in our bodies in various ways and continues to be.
	And maybe you want to go into that, maybe you don't, maybe you want to go in another direction, but I just want to throw all that out there because we are dealing with something that is much further along than most humans realize, okay?
	So that means we have to talk, we have to be like adults.
	We cannot sit here and backtrack and talk baby talk, you know, to people because they don't understand.
	I'm sorry, you're going to have to catch up.
	You're going to have to really understand in order to, you know, to meet this challenge and overcome it and transcend it as humanity.
	We can't just do it by ourselves.
	Great if you're going to be one of the people that survive, you know what I'm saying, in your body, you know, through.
	And by the way, your mind, and it's not here in the brain, It's beyond it, okay?
	So your control center for your body is actually outside your body, in the sense we think about the body.
	And so what we're talking about is being able to communicate with these various things and basically bring them onto your side, get them to either be benign, To leave your body or have other kinds of relationships with you, and that is doable, okay?
	Because we, even our brains, are beyond a supercomputer, and they don't have the emotional intelligence component that we have.
	So we have something on AI that they don't possess.
	But they can learn it, so that's a whole other topic.
	But anyway, so Karen, with all of that, what do you have to say?
	110% again.
	And the reason why is because most people have not educated them as, you know, as to what was really going on.
	Deb and I were actually studying, for example, just give you a different thing from Dr. Carrie Madej.
	By the way, I was the first one to put it under a microscope.
	I've opened the vials right off the bat.
	They were sent to me in Saskatoon.
	I went into the Okanagan.
	I met with Dr. Ross Anderson and Lorraine Andries of True Health Canada.
	It was documented so that Alfred Weber and the tribunal war crimes judges could be watching.
	So we put it right under there.
	And so he had the evidence right away so that that's what I did as a clown mother, so we could have them prosecuted for crimes against humanity as an act of war, because when they do it to us and our children, it is deemed an international incident.
	Right.
	That's how I approached it from an international law point of view.
	It wasn't the Canadian thing or the US thing or dealing with Pascal Najati or whoever it was.
	I was going after them.
	That's another subject these days.
	But anyway, I was involved with Dr. Young.
	I brought him on board initially because we now had vets.
	So I was dealing with a lot of vets who were injured.
	Mm-hmm.
	And, you know, in my center, because my center, like Debs, has gone basically virtual medicine.
	So you see us as telemedicine.
	And we've been doing that for 15 years.
	We're not hardly new at this.
	You know, it was the same thing like the Venoms.
	The Venoms, by the way, we were looking at Venoms at what?
	In Anti-Venoms, Deb?
	2004, 2005?
	We're going...
	Do you want to know the list of Venoms that Deb and I can test for?
	It's insane.
	I think I put in 400-500 and I stopped around there.
	But more importantly, I went for the Anti-Venoms that were in the area, energetically.
	So, you might have snake root, you might have frankincense, and tobacco is not done with patches.
	All those things that you're seeing with patches have got the nano-metamaterials in them.
	Okay?
	So, and we found that too, I'll just tell you as well, even in ivermectin, we took four different forms of ivermectin and we found all the metamaterials in nanotech in it as well.
	All right.
	And I'm a colon hydrotherapist.
	And what we have found, and there's two schools of things, and I get what people are saying, but what happened, we've also noticed that some of these nano-building, and it's called adduction, okay?
	So, if you're looking at a microscope, which, you know, we have, and Deb and I have been doing, what, dark field at least 20 years, too, you know, in our different technologies, we can actually, and I did, I wrote the programs for live blood cell.
	Okay, so in other words, I can do like a plasma.
	Think of it like ultrasound in your blood, energetically.
	So I don't need a microscope because it will show within probably 5% parameter.
	I would say ours are the accuracy.
	Deb will talk a little bit more about the accuracy of how you use voice and stuff.
	But I can actually take something onto one of my plates, like the vaccine vial, which I did, where I did ticks that were weaponized, by the way.
	And then I can actually correlate to see what you've got is the co-infection.
	And then I can isolate that particular infection and run it like she was talking to a tapeworm or something.
	You know, we don't know there's no diabetes, there's no cancer.
	We're looking at what's the causative thing.
	Okay, when you say these, I'm sorry to interrupt, but just can you clarify when you say these, I think you called it metamaterials.
	Can you clarify what are you talking about there?
	Yeah, metamaterials are basically what are used in, and I'll just use the, we'll use the masterpiece for example, okay?
	Or a nanozeolite, a nano-sealusite, we can look at carbon C60, any fullerene 70 and, okay, 60 and 70. Those things can be actually used to add ducts to actually Build the actual technology that the lipid nanoparticles are dealing with and that's what most people are not dealing with that but think of it as a recipe and those are part of the recipe components that can build the nanotechnology to what they want to make everyone as basically an antenna array is what they're doing.
	But we are also antennas to begin with.
	Correct.
	And that's where we are on.
	And there's a lot to be said for doing affirmations, which we can make into our genius.
	All of our stuff is done in a positive form that you can do affirmations.
	There's a lot, like I've dealt with Gene Decode and Stephanie was actually on Roseanne Barr talking about this in the last little while.
	Your voice can, again, we can try and negate some of it.
	But the problem being is that when it's part of the recipe to build the antenna arrays within you, you will not see it on the limitations of electron microscopes.
	Okay?
	That's why we don't do everything as Deb and I were, you know, in emergency or in the hospitals or wherever.
	If we just looked at the blood work without looking at the MRI, without looking at the x-rays, without looking at the PET scans or the EEGs or whatever, You're missing a picture.
	Now what we've done is we've opened the whole field to doing it through, think of it like muscle testing in a sense, okay?
	That you're using that as an array, as an amplifier of you, okay?
	Not against you, but as an amplification.
	Deb, do you want to add something to that maybe?
	Well, you're amplifying it, but not inside the body.
	You're amplifying it in a digital transmission software so that if you're really low in vitamin C, I can amplify the vitamin C up.
	But if you're very screaming mad in mercury pointing, I can dial down the volume of that.
	Now, do I clear the volume out of your body?
	Here's an example.
	If mercury is poisonous, it has three valences, so I have to add one electron, two electron, three electron to make it mercury neutral so that it can actually pass through a lipid neutral membrane.
	So by using musical and biofeedback Frequencies to put more electrons into the body, we actually jump all those electrons onto those spikes of the mercury and we neutralize it so it can leave better and faster.
	So now the biofilm, which is dependent on metals and pH, the more the metals come down, the easier it is to grow human blood.
	The more there's heavy metals in the body, the more we grow a yeast.
	So if we want to get rid of yeast, we can't just give you an anti-yeast pill.
	We have to change the metal soil in you so that it's not permissive for the pH of yeast at pH 8 to grow when the human gut is supposed to be pH 6.5, growing nice acidophilus.
	So our technology doesn't necessarily cure diseases, if you will.
	It changes the soil and the pH and the vitamins and the minerals, and then your body knits and purls together healthier organs so that you recreate a healthier homeostasis.
	But how does graphene interfere with that?
	I don't think we really even know the extent of it yet.
	And I think that because we have digital AI measuring tools that can give you percentage probability scores, because there's nothing ever perfectly exact, everything is a percentage probability, So we've calibrated our biotechnology called the Genius to have an 85% to 95% accuracy rate and whenever you're outside of that range it turns red or blue so you can immediately see that the bell curve is stretched to its limits over here in this low blue zone of degeneration
	and cancer or this red zone at the top that's inflamed.
	And if you keep pushing the red inflamed to neutral and the cancer and degeneration to neutral the body has more reserves.
	And it can float itself.
	So does it matter if we're part cyborg or part human?
	Well, hopefully the systems are all equally as pure.
	A pure liver will still make a pure brain thought that will keep you from having Parkinson's and depression.
	So, I don't know how to tell the difference between a cyborg and a human, because I saw some YouTube clips that showed you the seven types of the cyborg, the semi-cyborg, the this, the that.
	I mean, there's so much, you know, when they pull their head off and they just show a rig of electronics, it blows my mind.
	And yet, the field I'm in is using a technology computer to match the human computer, just like we use It's antivirus software to clean out our computer.
	Our software is just cleaning out the viruses out of your computer.
	Now, is somebody going to take that to the negative?
	And this is where we have to have the morality to say, neutral is best.
	I don't want to be an athlete who puts my body into such peak performance that I'm cheating.
	I want a technology that isn't steroids that make you unhuman in strength.
	I want to bring every athlete to the point where they're equally at their best physiology that they have with their genetics and their environment, and that's as best as they can do.
	So biofeedback has the way to neutralize the poisons that we can't see.
	In the way that I can build you up, I can also use biofeedback to pull down the graphites, pull down the nanotechnology, pull down the zinc deficiencies.
	Now, you want to hear something fascinating about the COVID epidemic, about 11 symptoms of vitamin D deficiency are identical to the symptoms of COVID. And when they measured the blood of people who died in COVID, they had less than 80 milligrams per deciliter in their blood of vitamin D, and pretty much nobody died over 250 milligrams of vitamin D in their blood.
	So, now why aren't we giving everybody $100 of vitamin D in the whole country, right?
	Because it stopped that epidemic.
	But no, no, we're going to do millions of dollars of all kinds of crazy things to try and do stuff that we could have mapped.
	If we could map it better, we could do a better job of solving it.
	Okay, now what about, though, this, you know, because what they did in Wuhan is they turned on 5G. And so this is what really exacerbated the situation.
	They did have a concoction of some kind that was really akin to, you know, I'm not a doctor or anything, but like Judy Mikevitz, you know, she comes from sort of the virus side of the story, but she talks about how it was SARS-2 and it's always in the common cold, what we call the cold.
	And, you know, this is always, it's also altitude sickness.
	This is what was fascinating during COVID. Certain doctors, a particular one in New York, and I don't remember his name, but he was an emergency room doctor, and what he saw was the symptoms of high-altitude sickness, and I've had that.
	So I know what those symptoms are, and indeed, I think he was quite correct.
	So what does that mean?
	There was a lack of oxygen, for one thing.
	Because the higher you get in the Himalaya or wherever you're hiking, then you get a depletion in your own ability to breathe and so on and so forth.
	And then they did, of course, the worst thing they could do was put a ventilator on people.
	That killed them right off.
	But in other words, it had sort of a malleable nature, this so-called...
	It was a pandemic, I guess.
	And, you know, it wasn't really as much a concoction, although the PCR test was a concoction and the jab was a concoction.
	So it contained what it contained.
	And apparently, really, the nanographene oxide was primary.
	Yeah.
	Now, I have to say that nano is the strongest material on Earth.
	That's what they say, okay?
	Nanographing.
	So, when you look at it and you're trying to, it's kind of interesting when you go back into the headspace of the scientists who created this stuff, is that if you want to build a super soldier, that's really where it comes from.
	Okay, what do you do?
	Well, you take the strongest material out there and you try to embed it in the human physiology.
	And you come up with some kind of, it's basically a skeleton that replaces the skeleton you have.
	That makes so much sense.
	I really never thought of it from that angle before.
	Well, you know, this is who I deal with.
	I deal with, you know, interviewing whistleblowers from the other side.
	So, I tend to go to the other side to see how they think about things.
	And so, when you come from that angle and you're looking at the way, you know, in a certain sense, you can say it's all diabolical, but in a certain sense, and I'm, you know, I hope that people understand this, they're trying to be, okay, our military industrial secret space program.
	Is really thinks they're doing a good thing by building a super soldier that can go out and conquer other civilizations because what they don't want, it's the military mindset, is for us to become colonized by another species, which we already have been, by the way, and we're in the process of breaking out of that prison right now.
	Yeah.
	But you see how that goes.
	In other words, it's not a completely bad or negative agenda.
	The intent is good, but the method is wrong, you see, in getting to where you want to go.
	Because they're really trying to reinvent the wheel when our bodies are the most miraculous, designed...
	Thing that you could come up with, okay?
	That creator or in conjunction again with whatever helpers he had to create this body.
	This body is absolutely miraculous in what it can do.
	The difference is actually time.
	They didn't want to wait for us to get into our higher state of mind, for people to get enlightened, for people to sit in meditation for years and, you know, Exercise all their powers and clear their chakras and so on and so forth.
	In other words, this is already, in a certain sense, a bio-machine that is par excellence, but they wanted to make it… The way they work is they work with crutches.
	They use old tech.
	So, in essence, what they're doing with COVID is an old technology.
	They're trying to actually reverse us into a robotic sort of being, which is a cyborg.
	That's probably what they think is the best they can do.
	Eventually, they'd like to replace all the cyborgs with androids, okay?
	So, the only way you're going to stay attached to your body is through spirit and soul.
	And then it's a choice.
	You either stay with that body or you leave it, okay?
	You still have that choice with this body, all right?
	It's much more of an organic, if you want to call it, organic connection.
	But nonetheless, you still have those abilities.
	You leave your body at night, you know?
	You don't have to come back.
	You know, I'm just saying.
	So, you know, you have to go all the way down the road and understand what we're dealing with here.
	Have you heard the potential that, this is unconfirmed allegedly, that the vaccine was loaded with 17 base pairs, GC, guanine and uracine.
	It's supposed to be guanine uracil, transposed instead into like a plasticine of uracine.
	And that there were 17 chains of uracine put together and had a very velcro strip attachment to the part of chromosome 8 I believe that has humanity, fertility, Compassion and intelligence.
	And so I was leaked this piece of paper, which I can't even say who it came to.
	I had thousands of people from all over the world I've taught sending me stuff, and I can't discern what is true or not in some of these...
	Well, I can tell you who can.
	Scott Perez, Dr. John Scott Perez, who I've interviewed numerous times so far, about AI. Because he actually, he knows, he built AI and he knows how to reconfigure it.
	And he basically says that our DNA is AI. Now, he goes down a road that you might not even be willing to go down.
	But I have to tell you that he is a, he's what you call a black projects doctor.
	So he's been led in on AI. Information about AI that we don't know in the public sector.
	And also has to do with the DNA of plants, which is really fascinating.
	So he's gotten into, actually, he can rewrite your DNA using a computer.
	Yeah.
	So, this is where it goes.
	And so, I'm sure he could look at that piece of paper if you want to send it to me, and I'll send it to him, or I can put you directly in touch with him, however you want to do it.
	But what I'm saying here is that that doesn't surprise me.
	And, you know, I'm not a scientist, and I'm not a doctor enough to tell you about that, but I can tell what it relates to, okay?
	I can tell that it relates to what's Would that be an adaptive thing that they want a super soldier to feel unhuman and not loving so they can go and be a good soldier on the field?
	And that would be considered in their mind something positive versus where many of us would be considering that that would be genocidal to the fertility of the human species?
	Well, that gets into what kind of human species they really want left on the planet.
	I mean, it really is a long, you know, you're looking down a long road, but this is where we're going.
	We're looking at, also they're getting ET help.
	So you have to go in that direction when you actually go down this road, which is gray AI. Okay, so the grays are, a lot of grays are AI already.
	Right.
	They actually gave, the story is, according to Cyrus Parsa, who's an expert on AI, who I interviewed numerous times, and then he went black because he was attacked so badly, he almost killed him.
	And I actually met with him in person.
	So I know that he was correct.
	He said that the Wuhan scientists and the scientists I imagine at Fort Detrick and so on were being given the formula For what they ended up creating this, you know, Cold-like COVID thing, this solution with all the different things thrown in.
	And this was a recipe, if you will, from the gray AI. Okay?
	And it was fed to our scientists through a computer.
	See, they're not telling you that.
	But this is what we're talking about.
	This goes right along the line with what Sabrina talks about.
	Okay?
	So, they've been planning these things.
	They've been implanting these things.
	And we're already...
	It's like a soup.
	We're in a soup, right?
	And it comes into our body and flows out of our body and so on.
	So we swim in a soup.
	And it's an AI soup.
	You know, it's a recipe.
	And they are changing the recipe for humanity.
	And they've already done it.
	I mean, it's already happened.
	Now, what we have to do is make sure we're in the driver's seat.
	To do with our own bodies, which comes back to people like you, where you're actually teaching people how to do that, right?
	Using biofeedback and other methods.
	And so, you know, I'm totally on board with what you're saying and what you're capable of teaching, right?
	So, Karen, you're right that by teaching the human being what is perfection already, we will get a perfected species.
	But by just doing it whack-a-mole and sticking stuff randomly, that's going to be a disaster in my opinion.
	That's why I like evidence-based medicine.
	I'm trained as an allopath and a scientist.
	So now we have the capacity with digital medicine to measure what we're doing.
	And if you're measuring it and it's a disaster, you'll have the tools to show it.
	And if it's measurably fabulous, you'll have the tools to show it.
	One of the things I was going to add in here, I have dealt with super soldiers.
	As you know, I was part of, like you were, one of the bases conference speakers.
	I've done, I think, well over a dozen with Miles Johnston.
	So in here, at the very beginning, when I got into this with, we'll just say Fukushima, it was because of the different radiation of what we were going to be expecting.
	So I was talking to David Wolf.
	One of the people that I got involved with was actually a former U.S. Army Black Ops with the U.S., Freedom Team, which was known as Patti Broussard, Sergeant Patti Broussard.
	Oh, sure.
	Okay.
	I don't know if you know, I was part of Project Incension that we did actually over 50 some videos.
	We videotaped every week.
	This is some of the information.
	We can take people just like Pascal or Patti, I mean, I don't have, or Sabrina, I don't have to get into their religion, their politics, whatever they're doing at home.
	What I'm interested in is the data.
	What Patty was able to show very clearly in Project Incention, we did stuff to do with Looking Glass, we did with Council 12. Patty has access technology at one point to using the actual military satellites.
	And we saw a lot of things in there that most people never had privileges to.
	And I worked a lot at that time for that year with Sergeant Daniel Brad McMullen.
	So, okay, so...
	I've interviewed him.
	Yeah.
	And so, when you started getting that, we were basically shown, like, you know, with the venoms and stuff, what was coming in or dealing with Dr. Horowitz, Dr. Gary Young, they were actually formulating, let's say thieves oil was designed at a certain frequency, like for sexual abuse is 102, for spruce oil is 560 hertz, because we could combine them for actually chemtrails.
	We were using it for bio warfare, actually.
	People don't realize what we were really doing back then, but that was the basis to doing some of the blends that we did.
	That I could enhance on my Genius Biofeedback plates and re-imprint them and re-frequency them for some of these other biowarfit things coming now.
	But one of the things in here is that Patti was able to show anything if people want to go to Project Incension, it's I-N-C-E-N-S-I-O-N, Still on...
	I don't know why it's still on YouTube.
	We got a few on Rumble.
	They took off mine about colonics, if you can imagine.
	Baking soda colonics.
	I lost my show on.
	But the rest is up there.
	And on the genetics, Patty was able to crack into the NCBI. Okay?
	Patty was really great at computer hacking back then.
	And actually, Carrie, we've got all this stuff to do with the triple-strand DNA and Lloyd Pye.
	And we actually...
	She got in and we showed how they were cloning.
	They call it assemblies.
	And it was called the Human Genome Project, Project Panther.
	And so I was prepared, and I threw this in the back of my mind, because you've got to remember, we did this, what, eight, ten years ago, right?
	You know, and I kind of hung up with them for a while.
	But there it was with the actual, like, CRISPR gene entity to what they put into the COVID vaccines.
	And I knew it right away how they were doing it.
	And like Debbie explained with the Velcro, that's what they were doing.
	They were putting alien, also DNA, and inserts.
	And in dealing with some of the actual super soldiers, a lot of them are controlled by, Adrenochrome.
	People don't realize the addictions that they were even using into the military programs.
	Yeah, very possible.
	Into base.
	And up here, I'm part of the, you know, British Columbia and all that, you know, regen bed stuff and what, you know, Carrie Ann Thornton's doing.
	Again, a lot of, like, I'll just say dangling and necessarily dangling a lot of, you know, carrots before the horses here.
	But aside from that, there is a component to what they were doing and why and how pre-planned it is.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know, if we look at this and now what I've been dealing with people There's a wonderful, you might want him, he's juicy, is Scott Smith, and he is the one that's been swabbing everything for East Palestine in Ohio, Connors, Atlanta, Georgia, and also he's dealing with all this stuff because of what's going along the Madrid fault line,
	so everything that's happened in North Carolina, because now what we're having is the rescue dogs are dying, and we've just shown that there's massive, massive radiation, not just bio-warfare there that was used.
	You know, so this is something that has been pre-planned, what's been going on there.
	And if we didn't have a lot of the people that I back up and do some stuff with for vets for child rescue, vets for going in to intervene, I mean, they just actually threw a vet into jail because they had created the roads.
	They had been blocked off and flooded out.
	And we now have actually had children die in that area from hypothermia, you know.
	And this just blows me when we start looking at the whole totality of the politics and the geopolitics that's going on.
	And the whole crap that we see, and I want to get into that.
	Yeah, the weather wars are a big part of this.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	So everything that they are, all the environment is being actually used, weaponized against us.
	Only places where there's very rich minerals in the ground.
	Right, but we were told a long time ago, actually back in the day when I interviewed one of the first super soldiers in theory, Duncan O'Finian, who talked about he was a psychic super soldier on top of his physicality, but he could actually, you know, see into the future.
	And what he saw was rivers of methane burning in the United States coming up through the Gulf, rivers that connect with the Gulf through Texas and maybe Louisiana and wherever else.
	And this is what he said was going to be happening.
	So, it actually does seem to be beginning to prove true.
	The methane has been coming up through those rivers for quite a long time.
	Where it's all going to end up and how it's going to play out, I don't know.
	But I can say that, you know, that's one aspect.
	There are many aspects to the way they're using the environment.
	And, you know, I'm very close to Malibu.
	You might have heard of the Malibu fire and we were very concerned, or at least I was.
	That it would come here because if they wanted to target us, they would.
	It's a targeting exercise.
	There's no doubt about it whatsoever.
	And so, I'm less than 30 minutes from Malibu as the crow flies or whatever.
	And even maybe less when you think, when you look at the, there's a picture of the, I could put, bring it on the screen, but I won't bother.
	But the thing is, the Malibu thing and then the part where they, you know, Actually made people leave the areas.
	Okay.
	So and then the part where the actual burn happened.
	So that gets quite close.
	In other words, then I'm like six miles away.
	You know, I mean, it's crazy what it was right there.
	But they what they did is they turned off.
	They turned the wind on on.
	So we had a very beautiful sunny day.
	Perfectly calm and quiet.
	The next day, that night, they started the wind up and it started going like crazy until it was like 80 miles an hour during the night.
	And they lit the fire and the fire grew from there.
	And then all of a sudden, like a light bulb, they turned it off.
	Like, I don't know, I think it was last night.
	And it was totally quiet.
	And then even in the LA Times is now saying, oh, Malibu caught a break, which is, you know, kind of ludicrous when you look at all the burn.
	But anyway, they caught a break because the winds had stopped and the firefighters were able to do their job, which is, thank God.
	But the thing is that, again, there's just a switch.
	They turn it on and turn it off, and they decide to target your area, and that's the end of it, okay?
	And they figure out where the boundaries they want to keep safe.
	I was in the other fire in my area, and it came right up to my apartment building, which was in Westlake, and Westlake had no burn.
	And It was completely that the city limits of that area was it's a wealthy community.
	We're completely protected right next door.
	Agurah Hills, Calabasas had burned, but only in certain areas.
	You know, so this is what they're doing.
	They you know, it's a You know, crash and burn.
	I don't know what you want to call it, but this is how they're using the fires.
	You know about Paradise and you know about Lahaina and you know what I'm saying.
	It's worldwide as well.
	I heard there's fires in Portugal.
	But one of the things they're doing is putting, you know, what they put in the chemtrails when they put it into the fire.
	Then you start breathing it in through the smoke, etc.
	So, this is going on constantly, and we are bombarded in so many ways, and North Carolina is no exception in this, you know, and it's a tragic, tragic situation.
	So, continue.
	So, which direction would you like to go from there, Karen?
	I want to just actually kind of, I totally feel for you because I spent two months going through this here, right?
	And I don't know if you're aware, Alfred documented it at ExoPolitics, but I actually did the medical evacuation and the documentation because I happen to have all the, you know, tricorders and meters up here, right, and gamma stuff.
	And so we know and what it showed is that it was direct energy weapons.
	I have pictures, by the way, if you ever want to see.
	I've got the actual beam weapons.
	So those green lasers that were coming down and stuff and split, I have all of that.
	I have the people that were actually blistered.
	I have the dogs and the cats that were bleeding out their rectum and out their paws.
	So I evacuated them up into what we call Dawson Creek, Northern British Columbia, right?
	And within four days they switched all the area to disperse because I was calling every different There possibly could be.
	And what they wanted to do is the people that I was protecting here as a witness, they tried the RCMP to lock them up and put them into psych units.
	Okay, the reason that it's so important, and this summer, they always joke about, you know, the super soldiers, when it comes to the end days, we'll see Bahala.
	Well, Bahala, I'm looking at it right now.
	What happens is there was no tree that burnt.
	All you would see was this, it was a blaze in here.
	And I had stuff coming down into my yard, on my truck, everything.
	And they evacuated to within a couple kilometers of me.
	So Silverton was actually evacuated.
	I had everything locked down for six weeks, by the way.
	So I know about where these are and entrances and gold mines and silver mines.
	This was not just the targeting for that.
	Because I'm sitting real close to what you call Q552, which is the very famous base that Miles, Max Spears, James Casbolt, and James Rinko talk about, because this is where the training happens in the cloning center in the gray Orion Basin.
	Okay.
	So we have ships coming in and out, and I have people being abducted, and it's a mess out here.
	And that's the kind of stuff I deal with, is not only for sexual abuse, ritual abuse, recovery, but...
	Which, I don't know, you call them provinces?
	Which one are you in?
	Well, I would call it the Sinaiic territory, because I still work on the tribal, but people know it as British Columbia.
	Okay, I was just trying to pinpoint where you are.
	Yeah, so we would be basically, as you know, for your thing, is about four or five hours north of Spokane, Washington, so this whole Kootenai range.
	Now, what happened in here that was really interesting is that a lot of it is to target some of the First Nations.
	I'm a clan mother, but I'm not native.
	I'm the white one.
	Okay, so...
	Yeah, we discussed that when you were on my show.
	A lot of people don't know that...
	That Galactic Council, the 12 were the Star Nations, the other one was the 13th, the Klein Mother, which is me, on that Galactic Council.
	But what happens here is that these areas are all being targeted here, and again, with the trafficking centers, and what most people don't know, because I worked with Patty, I worked with Gene, we showed all the deep underground military bases, but what most people have never seen is the 2000 bunker bases that they built in World War II all along Canada and the state's border.
	And that seems to be the entrances that they're going.
	So I have a picture of that.
	Because in World War II, they also tried to do the adrenochrome and the trafficking of the transit systems.
	And what they did is they did it under the Alaska Highway thing.
	So when we see this burning off that they're doing here, and I can totally feel for you, and this is just a hint, I'll bring it a little different.
	I had what was called wearable air tamers, and we use it actually not only for shedding, for people transmitting that were injected.
	It's like a taser, but it was cleaning clean air and ozone and negative ions, and it gave us a three-foot thing.
	So this was our lifesaver, just to let you know.
	You should get one on Amazon.
	They're like twenty, thirty dollars.
	Oh, okay.
	Just, yeah, write to me how to get it.
	I will, but this is the thing that our biofeedback can look at, okay?
	So when I talked to Deb, I think it was about six months ago when we were going through this hell, I said, they're trying to kill me.
	I knew to leave because I knew they were using 5 and 6G. I could feel it.
	My skin was burning.
	So it wasn't just the inhalation.
	You couldn't see.
	People were very proud that they were going to get paid and stay here and make money off people that could house, right?
	You know, because they have a payout here like FEMA. And I said, you don't realize they're microwaving this area and you're going to be breathing.
	Actually, I said the same thing about North Carolina.
	These people, they want to stay because they're attached to the land.
	They actually are doing themselves a disservice because they're getting sicker and sicker.
	You know, there's so many different things about this, but the bottom line is I was in Tahoe before I was here, and I was living in Tahoe when we had a fire, and I actually drove away because I knew, you know, I'm a psychic intuitive, I knew that what was coming, even though the fire didn't reach where I lived at the time, It was the smoke that came and the smoke was there.
	It was because Tahu is a bowl, in case you don't know, you know, like it's a bowl, it's a lake.
	And so the smoke comes and it sits in the bowl, right?
	So I actually drove out of there.
	I went down to Mammoth of all places, but anyway, because I knew they'd have good air and they did.
	So I stayed away for a number of days during the fire that we had that time.
	So just saying that you can leave and go to places that have better air.
	So, you know, I don't think being a hero and staying in place is really going to help things necessarily.
	I mean, if you need to, you have to follow your intuition, but just saying.
	This is something that I can show you that, you know, very clearly just, okay, Our tests can run tens of thousands of tests in minutes, okay?
	It's not rocket science tests.
	But we can measure this biofilm and let's say this is a client that literally has been, their whole immune system has been eroded, that biofield or that aura, whatever you want to say.
	Right.
	We can actually start hooking ourselves up or making the water remedy or imprinting or doing the herb or wearing those crystals or I can imprint jewelry for that matter.
	And then what you can do is start bringing it back up into something where we're starting to see more energy and color just by using the biofeedback.
	But because of what I lived through and you lived through and taking the vials and everything else, right?
	And these libraries that we make, you know, I have stuff even, I took your book and actually put it in here because there's so many different races and ET groups and abductions.
	You know, I have an entire thing just for past lives and things like that, but that the super soldiers like.
	But once you start getting your immune system, Appealing?
	Well, these are things that we can look at, and this to me is no different than doing thermal imaging, quite frankly.
	And I read it like I read iridology, like I do face reading, like I read live blood, like I read your colon chart, okay?
	So we all have a different way of doing it, but this is something that we can actually change within minutes, and you can see how the immune system, and this is what I have to keep doing, is Normally I do mine several times a week, but at that point I was like hooked up to it like every day because we have the ability and Deb has shown this so eloquently in her PowerPoints.
	I don't know if you've got some Deb there, but what happens is that we were using and Deb has actually co-done some of the technology and the biofeedbacks as well.
	That's why I brought her in.
	But I just wanted to say, there is stuff that we can do with light.
	So if people are scared about electrical magnetics and PEMF, there are things that we can just do and convert it to light.
	And Deb has shown that it's, as we talked about, oxygen is one thing, nitric oxygen is a whole nother thing.
	Because when I measured people, the nitric oxygen was actually so depleted, it wasn't registering for my clients.
	And these type of light technologies were increasing the nitric oxide.
	What was it Deb?
	Not 7, not 70, 700%.
	On people.
	And so I used it for people that had difficulty breathing, COPD, asthma.
	And I'll give you just a hint.
	I've been, not clumsy, but I've had a few accidents in my life.
	I've broken two ankles and a knee shattered it.
	And I ended up teaching with this the next day because I wouldn't go to the hospital.
	I put this on my ankle after I'd broken my foot and literally I was...
	Weight-bearing in four or five days, not four or five weeks.
	So you can actually accelerate healing like you have no idea.
	So if we get away from thinking, you know, the machine...
	Yeah, no, I think that's true.
	Well, I don't know if you know Richard Bartlett.
	Are you familiar with his methods?
	Matrix Energetics, I trained with him.
	Matrix Energetics, yeah.
	I'm actually one of Richard's Matrix Energetics crew.
	I just actually sent him to him.
	Well, you know, I interviewed him quite a few times, and he has a story when he talks about, he actually, I think he broke his leg or his foot or something on stage.
	I think he did.
	I was there.
	I was a nurse.
	So, you know, yeah.
	And he actually does a time travel thing where he returns back to the time before it was broken.
	He's very good at that.
	And that's completely correct.
	That's, you know, great stuff.
	And actually, I just want to say, put a plug here because I don't know if you know about, it's called...
	Not Qui-Gon, but it's, yeah, you know.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, this is accurate.
	This actually works.
	What they're working with is very correct.
	And I've used those methods.
	I didn't know that it was called that.
	When I used it, I just tapped into it and used it for myself.
	And it worked.
	It's amazing.
	So it's similar.
	It actually...
	Links up with the field of the planet and with your organs and so on and so forth, and you can reverse age yourself in various ways and stuff.
	So it's actually, there's a reason why they've been trying to shut it down all this time.
	Just saying.
	It's amazing technology.
	And part of it is that, actually, when Deb said, you know, the science, it was actually, we always said we were the art and science of transformation in there.
	So for those people, you can look up matrix energetics.
	And Richard, unfortunately, it looks like he's had a stroke right now, actually.
	Oh, no.
	Okay.
	Call him out.
	He was the only one that actually had, you know, we had all the natural stuff, the herbs, the oils, the tuning forks, the gongs, whatever we were doing.
	And then we had all our tech on the other side, you know.
	And it was kind of funny because when we were trying to get things up into Canada, into Vancouver, when he was teaching, they wouldn't let the technology in.
	And as Deb would know, they made it illegal.
	Well, they're actually making it very difficult for...
	There's a particular practitioner having to do with the med bed technology, who is Dr. Alfredo, and he's down in Mexico.
	He wants to bring his bed in, but they won't let him.
	So they're holding it back on purpose.
	I guess you know that, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, absolutely in there.
	And so that is one of the issues, right?
	But this is where we get into it.
	It was the same thing when they put the borders up, okay?
	The First Nations, when we did stuff like raindrop technique and essential oils and aromatherapy, which was a form of energetic.
	I'd like people to think of kind of the genius in the biofeedback is what we're doing.
	Kind of it's more like Reiki, but with a satellite behind us, so to speak, on there because it's really amplifying or boosting what we can do.
	So I can do it with or without the technology.
	Make no mistake about that.
	But what happens is that using this kind of technology, as Deb said, like within seconds, I can show you your minerals and vitamins, everything.
	I can look at the toxins.
	So for me to run a tox scan and then look at the remedies or like Deb said, is it a tapeworm?
	Well, that's why people are depressed because it's going to affect, we know, your serotonin levels, right?
	Or things like that, the dopamine.
	Deb's got some beautiful PowerPoints on her health safari program.
	What she has.
	And again, she's at healthcounts.ca.
	I'm on Facebook and a few other places, right?
	Okay.
	If people want to get a hold of us.
	But the thing is that we're still working as clinicians.
	We're still working as life coaches.
	Yeah.
	So let me ask you, and I want to hear from you, Debra.
	So...
	Are you both, you know, I see your practitioners.
	You also seem to be, you know, sort of scientific investigators or whatever.
	But are you offering your services?
	Because I can give you free ads on my website if you want.
	You know, I'm happy to do that.
	Lovely.
	Just so people can reach you.
	But I don't want to have you inundated if that's not what you do.
	You know, I don't know if you take clients, you know, like that kind of thing.
	We do take clients, but what happens for Karen and I is we end up taking care of the worst of the worst clients because they failed everything else.
	So we've gotten really good at the most bizarre things.
	So as a result of that, we've kind of deconstructed it into more user-friendly modules.
	So the Health Safari is...
	The A, B, C, D, E, F, G. So A for airway, B for brain, C for circulation, D for digestion.
	And we go around to the Z alphabet covering pain, stress, relaxation, and peak performance that you would do on yourself with the technology.
	There's the $1,800 device, the $1,000 device, or the $100 device.
	Depends on if you want to do it yourself as a coach and learn how to become a practitioner, then you probably get the technology that's programmable and you can make your own You know, say you just wanted to do health, the whole library is there that you can have repertoire.
	But if you're just a housewife who doesn't know anything about science and you just want to use the automated one, I built a program called Odyssey where all of this is just like a jukebox.
	Give me the liver song.
	I don't want to know all the subcodes.
	I don't want to program it.
	I don't want to know.
	I just want to hit that thing for 33 minutes and I'm baking a cake, but I'm getting healing through my light bracelet while I'm walking around the house and I'm getting healthy.
	This is my question for both of you, because in listening to Sabrina again, I noticed that she's against these wands and various things.
	She talks about how the technology can be taken over.
	By the frequencies and by the, you know, whatever the government is using and doing and the military.
	That's why I programmed it.
	I'm sorry?
	I programmed it so it would not have anything except purity, creator frequencies, nothing negative.
	Okay, so you work with that.
	Yeah, if you just put all the encyclopedic knowledge out there, the body will reflect what it is that you need.
	Yeah.
	So even if you put in bio-warfare in there, your body would resonate with bio-warfare and show you that you're under attack for it.
	So it is revealing all the positive and negative ways.
	You have to be clear for the truth.
	Yeah, understanding that technology goes both ways.
	It's the same as communication in that sense.
	So it can be, you know, it can come in positive or it can come in negative, and it depends what you attract as well.
	One of the things I was just going to show you, here's just an example of one of our plates.
	Okay, we have several different ones, but I could take that apple from my tree.
	Okay, so this is my local apple here, put it on and get the frequencies.
	I could also make an essential oil and I've made like say tobacco, nicotine, tinctures, because I don't want to put metamaterials and put gum and pharma or actually fund even the people that are making these things.
	Ivermectin is from the same Merrick that's from BlackRock that's from like, you know, the ACIO crop.
	So it's not going there.
	But here you could actually just program this in.
	So we can, as Deb wrote some of the programs, and a lot of them, she wrote a brilliant one called The Odyssey.
	So inside health apps, we actually have probably about 20 different apps.
	Like she said, it's everything from free to $50 to $100, right up to $1,000 to get like our kind of software, which you can, you know, do in monthly.
	So I mean, it's not that it's not affordable now.
	If you knew what Deb and I put into, like when we first went into the Quantum Alliance and stuff, and I worked with those old EFPX skills, we had to put in 50 grand.
	That was for the technology to go to school, go to university, and then write certification exams.
	And I had to have one in my clinic with all my staff back then in my medical centers.
	Okay, so now we can actually put it onto an iPad, iTablet, put your voice in, Put your photo in, and it does work off-grid.
	This is where I'm going to show you that it's very different.
	Once I've downloaded the software, and I could go to Tim Hortons, download it, and not have Wi-Fi even running in my house, but once I've downloaded the software, I can go camping and never have to be on the internet or on the Wi-Fi again or on the cloud.
	So this is the difference is it's software as opposed to I need a device that's got to interface all the time with the cloud.
	So I've got a mini solar panel for $50, by the way, so I never actually have to go on if it runs out because we have problems, let's say, in case we need to go off the grid.
	So I literally have got a little baby solar panel.
	So this is where, when Sabrina's talking about stuff, and I'm just going to go into here a little bit and link with what she's talking about, the terahertz.
	When you know the visible spectrum of light and our visible thing that we can see, just like hearing at a certain point, right?
	You can only hear at a certain hertz.
	And some of us that have, you know, implants can hear lots of things on these towers these days that don't stop.
	But in here, we have a very narrow range.
	And when you're talking about microwave and the terahertz, Right out to the radio waves?
	Yes.
	And what Tony Pantlerosco, he's a genius at doing anti-nanotech because of the Morgellon and Herbology.
	He was in Windsor and now has escaped to Michigan and Arizona because of what's coming down.
	He knew that, you know, they would be targeted up here because we're a little bit more regulated compared to what they sit down there.
	So I do a lot of pasting, right?
	But in here, the terahertz can actually take and rip the DNA. You'll feel better like an antibiotic for a week or two.
	And then it can start overriding.
	And that's what they're talking about is overriding your own DNA. The DNA right now, that nanotech, and you can check in live blood cell.
	I check my live blood cell and this every, you know, six months with that.
	And I haven't got the graphing crap in my system.
	Some do.
	And you see a lot of people that are unvaccinated that will have, their blood is almost as dirty, because people aren't including that PCR test, which was full of...
	Celestial Holm has great stuff on there, but they are still contaminated.
	And I know that when I've been shed on, like I said, I actually was vaginally bleeding, but one time someone came up, I mean, hey gosh, I had enough clothing on, but they just got that close within the energetic field, the biofield in my auric, came in and they loose harvest.
	And so what happened there is when they were loose harvesting, and Deb's got some great PowerPoints.
	I'm going to let her run here.
	Well, you just said it right there.
	You said DNA is digital.
	It's right.
	That's exactly it.
	It's in everyone's DNA just about right now.
	And that DNA, if it's unwound at the wrong pH, then it expresses a different organism.
	So if you unwind the DNA at a pH of 2.3 you get a slug and if it's 5.5 you get an acidophilus and if you unwind the chromosomes at 7.4 you get a human.
	But if you're actually alkaline at 7.93, it's a yeast or a mycoplasma.
	So by us changing the frequency around us, we might be unwinding the chromosomes as an antenna, which it really is an antenna.
	And by unwinding it at certain different pHs, we're expressing different organisms.
	And so my thought as a scientist is, if I can wind the chromosomes back to nice and tightly wound, they're less vulnerable for attack.
	So I try to give the body more hydrogen and more vitamins and the chromosomes are wound better and they have better protein and they have a better gut to build up better transmitters and so if you keep building back all the components of each of the body systems, the DNA Is supposed to make a replica of itself every night so that the mitochondria make a new liver.
	But if you have a chromosome that's bent out of shape with some damage, that chromosome might in fact make a different protein that doesn't fold as well and become corrupted and mutated.
	Now, if I go back one slide here, actually, this is the sex chromosomes.
	If you keep having a yeast infection in the body, it loves with a snipper tool to crack that X chromosome right where it crosses over.
	And the X chromosome makes dopamine and Mania if it's out of control.
	Or sex drive for different things.
	So if we keep giving people lead poisoning from fires and lead poisoning and mercury from our teeth and graphene and we make poisonous metals which attract more yeast, the yeast starts snipping our chromosomes.
	And the yeast starts causing lymphoma and leukemia at 42%, the highest raising cancer in every age group.
	And then we have, you know, genetic changes in people's sense of whether they want to feel like they're a female or male because the X chromosome when it's broken off on this corner might feel like a Y chromosome.
	And so that woman might not make as much estrogen and she might have a stressed adrenal so she's making more testosterone and her estrogen is going down and suddenly she thinks she's an intersex confused child.
	And then the parents would say, well, let's cut off your genitals.
	No, thank you.
	We're going to go back and fix the chromosomes where they're damaged by using biofeedback to reduce the lead, reduce the yeast, correct the chromosomes and wind them back so they're tight again.
	Well, you know, I need to wrap this discussion up.
	It's been fabulous and, you know, maybe we should do it again sometime.
	But I just want to bring up Sean David Morton because he's a good friend of mine and he's had, you know, just...
	A real run in.
	He was actually infected with, I believe, with cancer when he was in prison.
	They were torturing him.
	They put him in isolation, which is against the law for like months at a time.
	He literally was in isolation.
	And he's a trained meditator and all of that.
	So the fact that he even survived is probably testimony to his background.
	But nonetheless, he seems to be dying slowly and everything that they've tried has been basically useless.
	So now...
	With the state, what happens is when they focus on you, they can also, let's say you come in with something good like what you guys are talking about in the biofield, but then what happens is they come in and they reverse whatever it is you've done, right?
	So you've got this kind of thing going on where he's a targeted, he's literally targeted like way beyond the idea of targeting.
	So that's just something to think about.
	Right.
	And part of the problem...
	We have the antidote, positive targeting.
	Okay.
	Well, you're welcome to work on Sean.
	But the thing is that what I want to say here is that in the end of the day, one of the things that I noticed that is a problem, part of healing someone like him, and this is not...
	A criticism just of him, or of anyone, really.
	But people are brought up in a medical system that they keep flip-flopping back and forth.
	They'll go to someone like you guys, and they'll get very good stuff, and then they actually will not trust it, and then they will go to a normal practitioner or hospital thing, and everything will be flipped back.
	So it's a really bad sort of situation.
	Personally, for myself, I don't go to doctors.
	I don't go to dentists either anymore.
	And so I have to say that I don't have that issue.
	But when people are not like that, they are going back and forth.
	So for the sake of my viewers, because there are a lot of people, they're on all kinds of drugs.
	I mean, they're going to the mainstream medical establishment.
	They aren't Really versed in healing themselves, which is the bottom line that has to happen.
	And so do you have any, you know, we'll go between the two of you one at a time.
	Let's go with Debra since she's been fairly quiet for quite a while here.
	So Debra, can you address that dilemma I think that people have?
	I feel that the clients in our society are blamed for their sickness and blamed for their...
	They're so sick that they're toxic and can't learn well and they can't take on the tasks of doing the 10 things it takes over 12 weeks to get well.
	So I've already tried for 50 years to help people show them how to get well and I've given up on that.
	I just make them well.
	I say, you got to listen to this...
	On your cell phone, 90 minutes, 3 days a week, and you've got to promise me you're going to do it for 10 weeks.
	And if they won't commit to that, then I probably can't help them because they don't have the motivation to do it.
	But what I do in the first week is I give them all the motivating neurotransmitters.
	I bring on all the poisons down so they feel something different.
	I do feel more energetic this week.
	I had a lady in here the other day and she has, you know, had massive leukemia and cancer and a tongue cancer.
	I put her on the session while she was here for dinner for a business meeting.
	By the time the next day calls, she's a totally different woman.
	Super energetic.
	Went home and slept for 12 hours, but had a change in something that she could feel different.
	So my final suggestion is, if you don't want to change, don't come and see me because I can't do the high jump for you.
	I'm the coach on the sideline to show you how to high jump, but you have to take the pole in your hand and make the leap.
	Now the thing is that most people are afraid that it's going to be costly.
	So if you take that argument away and they're afraid it's going to take too much time to wait in the doctor's office and go downtown for an appointment, you take that excuse away and then you take away the fact that it's not cookie cutter medicine, it's just your voice and 15 seconds of your voiceprint is all I need.
	Then you take the fear that it's going to take a lot of vials of blood or something away.
	Then I ask them, so what's your final objection?
	Am I going to be able to do this?
	Well, are you sitting around all day for getting out of bed in the morning?
	Do you have 30 minutes to wake up?
	Do you want to put a light bracelet on you while you're waking?
	You know, I've had so many people who come to me when they're already on death's door that it's very hard for me to fix them when they're that deeply down the rabbit hole.
	If you could come to me earlier, I could have done something much more easy for you.
	And, you know, medicine has made this big mistake.
	If you've got a cancer, we decide to cut it out, burn it out, or grab it in some way and make a bigger electrical hole.
	Cancer is due to electrical dead cells that have no electricity, so cutting out and making another bigger dead hole doesn't work.
	So when we put bioenergetic medicine into that dead hole in the Swiss cheese, and now there's minerals in there and there's vitamins and amino acids, you resolve the dead hole of electricity and the cancer can resolve if given the right So I don't say I cure anything.
	I say your body could cure everything if given the right conditions.
	Just using biofeedback to find out where the conditions need to be enhanced is the best thing.
	And if you promise that you're going to cure somebody, you're going to get knocked off.
	You're going to basically be told that's impossible.
	And so we don't say that anymore.
	In biofeedback, there's only four things we're licensed for.
	Pain, stress, relaxation, and peak performance.
	But every one of those has to do with low oxygen and oxidative stress.
	So we just became oxidative stress physiology coaches.
	And when your body is coached to perfection, it is miraculous.
	It is so fantastic.
	The body is amazing to me.
	Even 50 years later, I'm still going, wow, I learned something new every day.
	And that's what I put into the Hell Safaris, is the recipe of perfection.
	And your body is compared to that mirror image and where you're sticking out like a sore thumb, it's going to be obvious.
	So let's just bring you back to neutral.
	And I don't see any other way to get over this in the next coming years, whether you're an android or a robotic person.
	Or a humanoid, everybody still needs perfect systems to move their body parts in the right direction.
	So that's all I have to say is take care of yourself because nobody else will or can.
	Okay, very good.
	Okay, and go ahead, Karen.
	You know, it was just, it was disheartening what happened with Sean.
	I actually called Ryan Belly because he was quite close to him, actually, and did a lot of stuff in the background and he wasn't aware of it.
	But that's an example where you sent me a couple things and I bet you about six, eight people sent me, can you please look after him?
	I sent to Melissa.
	I sent to him.
	I sent it on Facebook.
	The offers are made.
	Nothing was ever returned.
	I do know that they're trying to sell, actually, their iTero wand.
	I will use that with the Terahertz because, again, there's certain things, and as Deb said, when people are on death's doors, We have to look at it as holistically natural, but also for palliative care so that they can transcend as well.
	So I use this in palliative care, like, you know, scenarios when people just need, they want like less pain.
	So I've done a lot of stuff like that for pain control and using things to bump up your own, like, you know, substance P and stuff like that.
	There are enzymes we can give people instead of taking morphine and things like that.
	Right.
	There are many different options, and I'm happy to do this after hours with you.
	Okay.
	And if you're like, or anyone in here, I do a lot of consults, and I do the demos, and I put it in the chat room just now for insighthealthapps.com.
	And both Deb and I will see clients.
	We're happy to do that.
	And I want to get people wealthy, that's why, in sense of their health.
	It's not about the money, but you need to be wealthy in sense of your minerals, your vitamins, all those things have to be looked at.
	I'm just going to turn out, I'm not sure if yours will pick up here, if you guys can hear it just for now.
	This is me.
	I'm actually running that session on me in the background because I noticed I'm getting hot.
	I noticed that they're playing something with the direct energy weapons up here and the snow, which is not really snow here right now, that doesn't burn.
	But anyway, in here...
	Yeah.
	You and I could talk for like every, you know.
	But anyway, these are what happens when you're putting the light or the sound.
	And like I said, you don't have to hook yourself up.
	So if you think the 528, you know, and you're just doing that and you're doing your hemi-sync and holo-sync and putting your headphones on, you can do it with just that and absolutely no magnetic sensors whatsoever.
	We don't have to run a pulsed energetic magnetic currents for you like, you know, shock therapy.
	We don't.
	And it will work.
	It's just sometimes, you know, if you're not graphinated or no pacemakers, it will work better.
	But right now, just for an example, it's working in real time.
	It's hooked into me.
	And I will run it actually sometimes overnight because, as you said, all this nasty scalar and dirty energy is coming in.
	I'll use this basically as my own array.
	And so I actually have put on...
	Organite onto plates or put your water just on the plates.
	Right.
	And even just assess yourself and don't have to do any therapy.
	Okay?
	So there are many different things.
	And like I said, you know, it's cleaning down the core right now.
	The proof is in the pets.
	The pets have no placebo effect.
	They suddenly just feel amazing.
	I don't know if he was like a 14-year-old bulldog lying on a couch in Africa, and I was treating the man, but the guy says, could you treat my dog?
	He's just lying around.
	When I treated that dog, he started whipping around the living room, whipping.
	We were in the backyard and the man said, what just happened there?
	So it's something that is measurably effective and it's really quite a lot of fun.
	Quite frankly, this is the most fun I've ever had in medicine because I actually am an athlete and a musician and I'd like to win.
	I'd like to have a positive result.
	With measurable success in almost everybody.
	So I really want to just say, Carrie, you are the woman who says the brave things that sometimes people like I can't because of the restrictions in the politics of it.
	And I want to just put my salute to you for...
	Putting a spotlight on so many of these crucial things that literally have snowballed into a life-changing societal pressure that we have to address.
	And I really appreciated your intro comments that something has to change and we have to be the ones that change it.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	And you are making a big difference.
	You are.
	You must know that.
	But I hope you can feel it from us.
	I hope so.
	But I, you know, I have to say the same back to you.
	And, you know, I don't know you, but I take Karen's word for it.
	And I know Karen has an impact.
	And, you know, and so I'm sure that, you know, the vibrations go out from all of us into the field.
	And we can't even measure it, really, from here, but it's measurable, I'm sure, from the outside.
	And so I just want to say that, you know, It all goes around and comes around and, you know, we're all part of it.
	So thank you, ladies, for being on my show today.
	I think this has been a lot of fun, but it's also been quite enlightening just to hear, you know, your approaches and the possibilities behind them.
	And, you know, so do you have any way that you, you know, you can give it to me later, but you could also say it now if you want to say how people can contact you because I'm sure that's the The first thing that my audience is going to want to know.
	I popped it up in the chat room.
	My website is healthcounts.ca and I teach my health safaris at the website geniusinsighteducation.com and if you need to reach me I'm at drdrake432 at gmail.com 647-986-4627 is my telephone, and I'm in Eastern Standard Time, north of Toronto.
	Okay, now is this for, you know, I don't always recommend someone giving out their phone number.
	Are you sure you want to do that?
	If you need an appointment, that's my hotline for those who need help.
	All right.
	That's my private clinic line.
	I'm going to see if I can copy this and put this into the chat because once we close this down, this is going to disappear.
	I just did.
	I just did, Carrie.
	Oh, you did?
	Oh, great.
	Thanks for that.
	So, yeah.
	And then send it to me as well, just on the text or even email.
	Either way, you've got my email now because I sent you both the Zoom.
	So, yeah.
	So, we could do this again.
	Think on it.
	Think if there's areas that we should have gone down and we didn't do it because we can't cover everything in an hour and a half.
	And again, you know, it's been great and a lot of fun and it's so nice when people will talk to me about this kind of thing because a lot of times people don't want to hear what I have to say about this, but, you know, I've done so much research.
	I never wanted to.
	I mean, I don't like going down that hole.
	I don't like health stuff, or I didn't.
	I should say I do now.
	But I was really forced down this road because being a journalist when all the COVID thing happened, and that was an angle that I didn't really go down prior to that.
	So I've learned a huge amount.
	And it's actually been life-enhancing.
	And it really has added to the big picture of what they are trying to do to us and what we need to do to get ourselves back on track.
	One of the things too, I'll just put mine in here as well, is that I just want to reiterate what Deb said as well.
	When we've done people and you're doing like you think blind studies or whatever, we've done it on pediatrics, we've done it on children, we've identified, you know, all sorts of things like a feather, you know, allergy and then all of a sudden they can breathe finally instead of going to an allergist for the last six months and drugged.
	Or I had a dog too and I did one for a cat and the cat actually spit up after I did the remedy from a distance.
	Spit up a tapeworm, a five-inch tapeworm, two days later.
	You can't, you cannot crap, you know, you can't do this kind of stuff, right?
	And I said, I kind of get it, but anyway, I still see people clinically, and so if they want to get a hold of me, I'm at clanmother13 at gmail, and that's with a K, so clanmother13 at gmail.
	I also have, for the proton people, I'll be the commie for the storm, but k-a-l-m-13 at protonmail, and I'm available on x Twitter, on Telegram, like you are as well.
	And, you know, again, Facebook is a huge thing, because I want to see people.
	This is not about, we can't do telephone appointments, but I like to interact like this, because I can go in, and Deb and I, we do actually medical house calls now, so I can go into your cupboard, into the bathroom.
	No, that's the wrong brand.
	No, it's GMO'd, right?
	Because that's how we're going to do it.
	This is not about doing just digital stuff.
	It's educating you, you know, and getting you alkaline and being a life coach and sharing our recipes with you.
	And it's not about curing anyone.
	It's about people just coming back to the heart and doing it properly.
	So, again, thank you so much for what you've done.
	I really appreciate it.
	And you inspired, like I said, one of my libraries.
	I should put it to Carrie Cassidy, but it's...
	For the chains and stuff or, you know, the galactic part because people don't want to go there.
	We have to go there, you know.
	And who's coming to see me most is lightworkers.
	They are so burnt out and tired and I have angels showing up at my door by the dozens needing a retread.
	And you know what?
	They've been working very hard for many years holding the resonance of the planet.
	And I think that there's something to be said about maybe even just having Some recognition that there's a lot of people who have been holding up the planet that are invisible.
	Sure.
	We want to send out...
	I'm trying to make out quantum concerts now where I don't have to tell you I'm deworming you.
	It's in the music and I don't have to explain myself.
	I'm just going to make you feel good.
	That's lovely.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Well, thank you again for being here and for today.
	And let's do it again in the future.
	And anything that occurs to you that we didn't cover that you think we should do a show on, just contact me.
	You know, I'm open.
	And so thank you again.
	And you'll send all your contact information to me, either on email or whatever, because I'm not getting it here myself.
	So thank you.
	And that way I can put it under the show and everyone can find you.
	Yeah, we'll get those free trials for people, too.
	I do want to just reiterate, Ryan was Ryan Williams who developed this.
	Actually, by the way, he was part of the Army, I'll just say.
	That's why Sabrina has actually looked at our security clearance and our cybersecurity.
	Because it is top notch and we're not just a bunch of people running some frequencies to you over the internet.
	We have security clearance and we just want to make sure that we do that so that people can keep their information to themselves.
	Okay.
	So just so you know that.
	Wonderful.
	Yeah.
	Thank you very much.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	All right.
	Take care.

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