I'm going to have a wonderful guest on this evening who just has such mind-blowing information, unlike myself, who didn't wake up and start waking up, I suppose, until my late 40s.
My guest that's coming has really sort of Really been connected to truth and probably source in ways that, I mean, I can't imagine since she was little.
So I'm very excited.
I'm gonna have Carrie Cassidy joining this evening.
And so she's not with us yet, but as we always do, I'm just gonna share the PowerPoint here and we'll move through and we'll sing.
And then, although I do have a liberal arts undergraduate, double major in philosophy and economics, I really couldn't decide what I wanted to be when I grew up.
So I was just, I loved learning.
And fortunately, I went to work for the world's biggest junk food company, PepsiCo, located in Purchase, New York, the headquarters there.
But I was never in my office there in Purchase, as beautiful as that was.
I was able to travel to 48 countries and lived in three of those, and that was really life-changing for me.
As a sort of lower middle class working family child, generally speaking, uneducated family.
So first person to go to college, second to graduate high school.
So that's kind of my story.
I was very successful.
I was a CFO at a startup company that I had a 1% stake in, and basically what that means is when the company goes public, you take the value of the company and you multiply it by your percentage, and that's the value that you would come out with.
So I had a stake that was estimated to be worth maybe $10 million, so I'd kind of reached the pinnacle of my career.
And that ended abruptly in 2008.
When I got taken out by a private equity investor, I took my six-month severance and I went and apprenticed with Susan Weed.
She is an herbalist and wise woman in upstate New York in the Catskill Mountains.
And when I came back, I really couldn't go back to that life.
It just wasn't going to be possible for me.
So I got my real estate license and I sold real estate very successfully for a number of years.
In 2018, I moved to Florida.
And my mother was ill.
She passed in 2019.
And I'm doing a job now where I consider it a desk.
And so I help people finance their homes and investment properties.
So that's a little bit about me.
And one thing that I think my perspective brings to the table here is that, you know, it really is a matter of incentives.
And so, you know, the medical industry, if you're well, then they don't exist.
So, they have no incentive, really, to keep you well and healthy, body, mind, or spirit.
And as we've talked about a number of times here, there are a number of medicines that have to do with mind and energy.
And then, you know, there are body medicines as well.
So, the seven medicines, as we call them.
So as a result, I don't sell products.
And so, you know, it basically helps me to be more objective.
And so, you know, I don't have any particular thing that I'm invested in that is buttering my bread, so to speak.
So, you know, if I... Okay, Carrie's coming in through.
So if I have something that I'm saying, it's not because I'm making money off saying that.
And so that's what's important to me.
So basically, I'm not really a healer either for anybody other than myself.
I am someone who guides you to heal yourself, to your wise healer within, as I call it.
And so one of the ways that we can reach our wise healers within, and our source energy part of ourselves, is by changing our frequencies.
And one of the ways that we can do that is through singing.
Because singing involves more of the We talked before about the right and left lobes of the brain and how those function differently and how the right brain has sort of been suppressed.
And there's also this, the breath.
Okay, so using the breath, you know, yogis have talked about it, the Buddhists have talked about it.
Every meditation you've ever done talks about the breath.
And so when we sing, somehow it opens up our sensitivities, I think, to our other side and maybe some what we would consider non-rational, right, or non-linear, dualistic information.
So we do this every week.
This is a Seneca prayer.
I learned it at the Wise Women's Center and we sang it every morning.
And so it's a special song to me.
It's very simple.
I encourage you to sing along.
Sacred Corn Mother, come to me.
Make my way sacred, fill me with beauty.
Sacred Corn Mother, come to me.
Make my way sacred, fill me with beauty.
Fill me with beauty, fill me with beauty, fill me with beauty, that I may bring others beauty. that I may bring others beauty.
I always feel better when I sing.
I think that's why breathing helps, right?
When you're stressed out, if you can just take a few deep breaths, I think it helps to relax you.
So, I'm going to run through this very impressive background of my upcoming guest who has joined us now, Carrie Cassidy.
Amazing background, as I said earlier.
She really has been plugged in uh so much uh longer in her life than me.
I'm 63 and and I really started to wake up when I was 47 years old and that's when I did the apprenticeship uh with Susan.
Quite a quite a late bloomer as they say um but uh Carrie is the CEO and founder of uh Project Camelot and if you haven't if you're not familiar with Project Camelot it's just a wealth of information that Carrie has put together over really almost 20 years of documentary filmmaking.
She's an investigative journalist and she does a live weekly show on Project Camelot.
She is a leader in the alternative media sector, so I'm so pleased that we can have her here on Weeds of Wisdom.
And as I said, she's interviewed over 2,000 people over 19 years on the radio and video, and those are available not on YouTube anymore, unfortunately.
But fortunately, Project Camelot has preserved most of the record of that, if not all, on projectcamelot.tv or projectcamelotportal.com.
And you can also find much of Carrie's work on Rumble, Odyssey, and BitChute.
The original Project Camelot YouTube video channel, now deleted and banned, had over 70 million unique views worldwide and 312,000 subscribers.
That's an incredible reach, so no wonder they had to shut that down.
Carrie does travel the world.
She conducts interviews.
She documents the testimony of whistleblowers with above-top-secret clearances, as well as authors, researchers, and experiencers covering conspiracies, the Secret Space Program, Black Projects, ETs, Kundalini and Ascension, and free energy.
So Carrie is a very wide-ranging wealth of knowledge.
She does speak at conferences around the world and is considered one of the leaders of the disclosure movement.
She also leads yearly tours to Egypt and other ancient sites, including the annual Awake and Aware Conference in the United Kingdom.
Video conference footage is now available on the website of those trips as well.
And in the lower corner there, there's a shot of Carrie at the Full Disclosure Now conference where I was blessed to actually hear her speak live and just Really playing catch up here, and I appreciate her coming on tonight.
Her recent book is Rebel Gene, Secret Space, and the Future of Humanity, which is now available at Amazon.
So I encourage you to go to Amazon and get her book and help it climb the ranks.
So without further ado, I will welcome Carrie.
She's with us.
Hi.
Hey, I don't know if my video's working here.
It's kind of weird.
Can you hear me?
I can hear you, yes.
That's working.
Oh, weird.
Okay.
Don't know what's going on.
So, okay.
I always try to find a teenager when I have these issues, but I don't know what your strategy is.
Yeah, no, it's just me and I am mystified.
I don't have any teenagers either.
I keep a little sticker over my screen most of the time.
There you are.
Oh no, that's my still picture.
That's not me.
I mean, that's a version of me, but...
Okay.
Well.
Patience is a great virtue.
I lived in the former Soviet Union in the early 90s, so just take a moment.
We'll see.
Yeah, maybe there's some setting here that's not working.
Wow, this is weird. this is weird.
Well, I haven't had this problem before, so I don't know exactly how to deal with it.
The only thing I can do is I'm going to back out and try to sign in again and see if that helps.
OK, that sounds like a plan.
OK, so I'm sorry about this.
No problem.
Hopefully we'll get you on the next pass.
OK, so.
Well folks, technical difficulties.
Mercury is retrograde, so this often happens during these sorts of events.
And if any of you pay attention to the Schumann Resonance, the Schumann Resonance has been blasting coronal energy masses from the sun for the past several weeks.
And we've had meteor showers, so all of these things probably are In the mix.
I don't know if, you know, how long it's going to take Carrie to come back on.
But anyway, so what I will kind of review at this, just to fill the moment in time, is because one of the things that I was so fascinated by at this full Disclosure Now conference was, and that's what really propelled me to get back into the Gaia Project,
And to really kind of really explore, I think, more than just Mother Gaia, like understanding her place in the universe and the frequency world and the role.
Okay, here comes Carrie back.
Okay, so I just admitted you.
Hopefully we'll be able to see you.
Okay, do you have a video button at the lower left?
Yeah, I do.
Let me try a different camera.
Ah, there we go!
Okay, something to do with something that I use called eyeglasses doesn't work with your situation, but that's all good, so here we are.
Hey, welcome, welcome, welcome!
Yeah, so I was just telling the audience how, you know, I heard you speak at the Full Disclosure Now conference.
My friend Cheryl Arbogast, who's also been on the show, has been following you forever.
And, you know, so I'm really, you know, sort of a little out of my depth.
But I thank you so much, because that whole experience, I think, really opened up another sort of channel, if you will, within me.
Oh no, Cheryl's calling me right now!
Okay, while you're dealing with that, I'm just gonna switch this on because something's not on.
So yeah, so I was telling them how this whole experience of being at that Full Disclosure Now conference was pretty mind-blowing, and It propelled me back to a book that I had picked up that actually jumped off the shelf twice at me at a bookstore, a Borders bookstore back in the day, that I just happened to be, I just had to stop at this bookshop and this book had jumped off twice, once on the way back to the shelves that I was looking at and once on the way out, so I picked it up and
And so I re-read it over the years, but when I first read it back in, I don't know, I think it was 2008 or something, I just, you know, I just couldn't really, I wasn't ready for the information.
So it's really interesting to me how, you know, at least on my own journey, It's taken me a while to kind of put all the pieces together, but in your case, you know, you seem to really have had it really been plugged in sort of to the truth, if you will, for really your whole life, it sounds like.
So I'm very excited to get your wisdom.
Oh, well, thank you.
So, is this a pre-recorded show or live?
This is live.
We're streaming live on peopleforpeople.ning.com.
Okay, because I could put it on my, if I had the link, so if somebody could put the link in the chat, we share a chat here.
Vanessa, can you put the link in the chat for her?
Then I'll put it on my telegram real quick and that way we can get more viewers since I guess it didn't make it through my brain that we were live.
We had an earthquake here today and that always gets things a little bit discombobulated.
Oh my!
I didn't feel it but I read about it.
Where in California are you?
I'm in Calabasas.
Okay, so Vanessa just put that in the link for you.
Oh, it's a Rumble live stream.
That's fine.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, that works perfectly well.
So just, yeah, you can go ahead.
I'm just, it'll take me a second while I'm doing this.
I can listen and talk at the same time.
Oh, good, because I can't walk and chew gum, so I'm glad.
I always thought multitasking was a lie.
Oh, really?
No, I'm playing with you.
Just because I can't do it, right?
Yeah, so it actually propelled me to go back into this Gaia Project.
And what I realized when I reread the Gaia Project was it really is still all about frequency and vibration.
And it seemed to me that so many of the different books and people that I'd heard were really talking about the same thing, but in very different sort of ways, kind of like it's a prism and you see it from this angle and I see it from this angle.
And so I really am so interested in your point of view in terms of, I guess, cosmology, right?
Like, you know, we've been talking about like how we're all free, everything is frequency and vibration, and that is sound, light, color, etc.
And so I'm just, I'm just very interested to hear, you know, kind of, you know, in a nutshell, where do you think You know, where do you think we come from?
Where do you think we are?
And just, I don't know, enlighten us.
Well, I think that we are basically a combination of spirits and souls having a human experience.
And so we're occupying these bodies at the moment, that we are not necessarily human in every incarnation.
So as far as I'm concerned, that we can inhabit other types of bodies and be incarnated on different planets and so on and so forth.
So I kind of have a very wide view of all of that.
And I think that humans are genetically engineered species.
And a lot of that information does come from a series, a couple series books.
It's just two books, really Voyager books by Ashana Dean that I have linked on the front page of my website, which is projectcamelotportal.com.
And And so if you just scroll down, you'll see those books, as well as other books, including mine, which is right behind me, if you want to learn more about me and my journey.
And so, yeah, so I, you know, I think we are all under the Creator or God or whatever you want to call it.
But I don't follow the Bible as I would believe that it was completely distorted.
By the men in Council of Nicaea, which has been reported through the years.
So I think maybe most people know about that, but then I do find that some people have no idea that there are a lot of lies in the Bible, a lot of distortions on the message that Jesus was trying to convey.
So I believe, you know, Jesus was and is an avatar.
Similar to Buddha, I don't actually classify Muhammad as an avatar of that type.
And, you know, so I just, I'm an investigative journalist, I really delve into mysteries and conspiracies of all kinds.
I think conspiracies are happening every single day of our lives.
And all a conspiracy is, is, you know, two or three people getting together to plan to do something nefarious outside the sort of notice or understanding of most human beings around them.
So you can be doing a conspiracy between companies, between individuals.
And obviously, we have tons of conspiracies in our world.
And I think more and more truthers, as they're called, out there are also investigating these conspiracies.
And I think outing the truth.
So I'm all about outing the truth of our existence.
So I guess in a nutshell, I guess that's where I'm coming from.
And where we came from, if you want to get more specific in terms of our racial composition, we are human, which is actually translated as man of many colors, hue man.
And that we are actually, as I say, genetically, we've been interfered with by many visiting ET races.
And COVID was just one more genetic re-engineering of us.
And I specialize on the Secret Space Program, so that mostly is conducted underground and off-planet on other planets.
I have whistleblowers from Above Top Secret that I've been talking to for about 20 years, some of whom I literally Still talk to, and some have passed on since then and all of that.
So, it's kind of a long saga.
I'm sure there's not going to be time to go into it all here, but that's kind of where I come from and what I'm talking about.
Humans come from Lyra, it is said, the Lyra system.
And so do humanoids, by the way.
And so there are even scientists, conventional scientists will admit there are actually billions of Earth-like planets out in the solar systems, galaxies.
And one can assume from that that there are also human-type If you want to call them genetic experiments, you call it, you know, whatever you want to call us.
And also humanoids that are, and the difference is actually not clear, I have to say.
There may be, it occurs to me now that there could be an AI component to the humanoids as opposed to the humans.
And as you can see, we're kind of fast approaching A time when they are trying to actually make us into cyborgs and link us to what we call the Borg, like in Star Trek, I guess you might say.
That's an AI intelligence.
So there are AIs that come with ET races who travel to our solar system and visit us on Earth.
And there are also AIs that we have created.
Although, I think scientists might agree that they were reverse engineered from AI left behind by ETs.
So we probably didn't create the AIs actually from scratch, the real AIs that we have here.
But there are multiple types and invading species of AI as well.
Well, you know, I've watched, I've listened to, and I think you interviewed Harold Kautzwella.
I think it might have been some time back, but I find his exposition about the black goo and the artificial intelligence to be quite interesting.
And particularly, I'm interested in what he calls the organic black goo, which comes from Mother Gaia, versus what I think what he calls the Inorganic black goo, which is, I guess, created by the AI.
So, do you know about that?
Yes, I know quite a bit about that, actually.
The Gulf oil spill was actually designed on purpose to allow them to pour core exit into the Gulf.
That was meant to counter the AI that actually had come in from the Falklands Islands and was invading our Gulf and eating away the bottoms of boats and so this was this was the black goo that you're talking about.
I had whistleblowers on that subject and there's also a very long list of Marconi scientists who back in the day of the Falklands War became infected by that particular black goo and killed themselves in a myriad of really inhuman type ways.
They basically were taken over by that particular form of AI that's a negatively based AI.
And yes, I do believe that there is a positive, a more positive AI that is maybe closer to being indigenous to the planet.
That is actually it's in oil.
I mean that's the black goo is actually in oil and I have a whistleblower that came to me to tell me which oil.
I'm not going to say it because it's It's a common motor oil that you use.
But if you touch it, it basically goes into your body and can, I guess, even take it over, which is what happened to the Marconi scientists.
So, yeah, that's only one form of AI.
I mean, there's lots of AI.
There are the Nazca aliens.
I don't know if you've ever heard of that defined in Peru.
And they were, they're like around, I think, 2000 years old.
And they had either breastplates or plates at their throat, that were AI, was discovered by scientists to be AI, linked to some AI, you know, alien race, where they were being given orders through to, you know, and run by a particular race, but they are little statues that were found in Peru.
That, according to, I did a lot of investigation on that story.
And you can go to my website to investigate any of these stories and just put the name like, whatever it happens to be in this case, Nazca, which is N A S, NAZCA, I think it is, and find out a lot of information that I put out there about this, but that is a find that they are still hiding the truth about.
Jaime Masson is a Latin, I mean, a South American journalist who tried to out some of that truth, but not all, because either he didn't know it or he didn't He was not at liberty to release that information, but it's a fascinating story.
And it did get published in the, I think it's called the Daily Mail in England, in an article.
So worldwide, it became a known story.
It's not just a UFO story or something like that.
It's an archaeological find that they found in Peru.
So there are many different AIs and we're dealing with various ones right now.
And can you talk about who are the White Hats and how did they originate?
So the White Hats are basically a group of military, ex-military, law enforcement individuals that have worked in government in various capacities worldwide who have created together a, I don't know what you want to call it, even a secret society of a sort, but
Unlike the regular secret societies that are kind of negatively based, the White Hats had the inspiration came from President John F. Kennedy, who was assassinated.
And they were around around that time.
And I think that the assassination of JFK, spurred them on to, to decide that they needed to do something to take our country back.
So, and After our country, the rest of the world, so that our world has been dominated and controlled by what we call, loosely speaking, the Illuminati, but sort of religious and black magicians and so on that have tried to keep the truth from humans as to who we really are and our capacity, you know, how we are made
You know, in the image of the Creator, in the sense that we are creators, each of us, and we are following in those paths.
So, I see Earth as a school, and I kind of follow that line of reasoning.
So what can I say?
So the White Hats are led by John F. Kennedy Jr., who I believe was not assassinated in the plane crash.
He survived, as did his wife Carolyn and her sister.
But the Secret Service, who had been watching him since he was a child, were more than aware that Hillary and her group, Hillary Clinton being part of the dark side, Really, she's considered a black witch, in case you've never heard that.
And a very diabolical one, indeed.
But at any rate, they had lunch together.
It's a famous lunch that John Jr.
had with her before they attempted to take his life.
And she, I believe, told him they were going to Kill him if he ran for office in suit like his father and so on and so forth.
And Bobby.
And so I think that they did try to kill him.
I think that the Secret Service knew about it and protected him.
And they staged his death at that point for his own safety, for the safety of him and Caroline, her sister.
And so he was well warned.
He was, at the time, As you may remember, head of George Magazine, and he was about to hire actually a very well-known journalist to out how George Bush Sr.
was instrumental in the death of John F. Kennedy in the assassination.
Some people disagree that John F. Kennedy actually died.
Right now there's a guy named Phil Godlewski who has made a film depicting how he might have survived, which is based to some degree on the work of Robert Morningstar, who's a well-known journalist, investigator, and you might have heard of him.
He has his own show.
I think it's, I don't know if it's a video show or a radio show, but he has a show.
Anyway, he did a book on the assassination of John F. Kennedy, and he told about how this sort of lookalike, who was on the scene at the time called Officer Tippett, who was depicted and known to be looking quite a bit like John F. Kennedy, how they killed him on the same day.
And then substituted his body, and JFK actually did go into hiding, and he was kept, I believe, on Scorpios, the island of Aristotle Onassis, for all those years.
He lived to, I think, over 80, and he actually only died a few years ago.
Would you explain why Jackie went with Onassis?
Exactly.
Now, I don't know, you know, there are, in other words, Robert Morningstar had some proof.
The video that Phil Godlewski just released does have some information.
There have been many, many researchers Who've questioned various things about the JFK, you know, assassination and so on.
So you have to really go down that rabbit hole to want to substantiate some of this.
But it is, you know, one way that I do when I'm trying to determine what's true and what's not is to use my intuition.
So I use a combination of my heart and my mind see what resonates with me and that is it actually is kind of a physiological sign if you will when you're getting the truth and one of the ways you can tell of course is by what they call when you get chills if you ever have that sensation that's a kind of a kundalini stimulation kundalini being this light
Rope of light that goes up the back of the spine.
But anyway, you know what a chill feels like.
So, some people use that as an indicator of truth.
When we hear truth, it resonates with us humans.
We have a natural ability to determine truth.
But a lot of people have deadened that.
They, you know, don't follow it anymore.
But I do use that method.
I also, of course, follow it up with a great deal of investigation because I'm an investigative journalist.
And so then I see if the two match and go from there.
Well, the left brain works with the right brain, right?
That's right.
And doing that sort of logical, linear validation work from the downloads, you get, you know, sort of from that, you know, right hemisphere, which is sort of more holographic, you know, boom, you know, it's like the image, the thing, you know, I, that's how my intuition is too.
I just, I, but I'm not like a visual person at all.
I mean, I, I really envy the people that get the visions, right?
I mean, like, wow, I wish, really wish I could see it.
But, wow, that's really, that's incredible.
And, you know, to your point, I think, yes, we are wired to be able to discern truth.
And two factors, one, they've numbed out and tried to, you know, dumb down sort of those or burn out those sort of receptors that we have naturally.
And then they've also We're engaged in so much censorship and mind control over generations now that it's extraordinarily difficult to break through.
But we're seeing a lot of people break through.
I think really the COVID thing.
Can you talk about that?
Where are we?
I mean, you've been in this for a long time in terms of trying to get the truth out there, and I've also been aware for decades that there's a lot of deception going on.
My first exposure, I was in Moscow in 1993, and I asked my guests about the Pravda propaganda thing, and they just laughed.
I mean, they laughed for like a full minute, and they were like, I'm like, what's so funny?
And they're like, well, we just think it's funny that you Americans have not yet figured out that all news is propaganda.
And they just continued rolling on the floor laughing, right?
And I just didn't know what to think about that at the time.
But now it seems so obvious, right?
Right.
What do you think is the spark?
Do you think it has to do with the stars?
I do believe that our Earth is moving in the direction of the Sagittarian.
Actually, our galaxy is merging with Sagittarius.
We have an interview that I did quite a long time ago with An astrophysicist called Paul LaViolette, and he talks about the super wave coming from the galactic center.
So it's possible that that is happening, that it is, that we're being, as we move closer to Sagittarius, being bathed in a certain amount of energies that are bringing, stimulating all of our, what I would say, chakras, and the frequencies, if you want to use that term.
In other words, waking People, whether they like it or not, so it's not really, it's barely a choice at this point.
You're going to wake up somehow, but people will take their time.
A lot of people have blockages, so they're not going to, you know, it's not going to get through or they're going to get off track.
They're not going to really resonate with the truth properly and, you know, their bodies are out of whack and all that.
I think that, you know, that's the age we live in.
And even as they said, as we move into Aquarius.
So this has been, you know, predicted and prophesied.
And I think the awakening of humanity is absolutely of paramount importance for multitude of reasons, one of which is to actually save ourselves and the planet.
But also, in light of the The child trafficking and that's going on that has become an epidemic.
In other words, we always had guns and see that the 2 suspects drugs and guns are where the 2 money making.
Usual suspects that darksiders would use to raise money and so on.
But then child trafficking entered the scene at a certain point.
I think it was behind the veil for a while.
In other words, if you really go back in history, you're going to find out that old men were marrying young women, even children.
what could be classified as a child, 12 years and younger, that was part of various ancient societies going way back in time.
So it was never not sort of already in putting in into cultures, but it's a lot, you know, the Royal.
And, and African societies, I mean, all kinds of societies have a history of doing this.
So that is a form of what we would call today pedophilia and then using that and trafficking and using the honeypot like the Epstein Islands to capture congress people that are falling for that and so on and so forth and filming them.
This is, you know, it's actually exploded on our planet and become It's a bigger money maker now than drugs or gun running.
So you can see where that's going.
And so this is part of the reason why I think it's so crucial for people to wake up to the reality.
And that's where you're getting that kind of a lifestyle, that kind of Motive Operation is part of the Illuminati Black Magician Vatican, by the way.
And the Vatican is run by reptilians, for those that don't know that.
All you have to do is look at the architecture.
But, you know, you said your audience is kind of new to this subject as well, so I won't go all the way down that rabbit hole.
They may be way ahead of me.
I don't know.
I mean, yeah, you know, it's hard to know what people know, but you know, I'm just touching on these subjects here so you can just file it away and then do more investigation.
But there's a guy on Twitter today talking about how children have been trafficked in Ukraine and it's absolutely an epidemic.
And he's actually, you know, saying this openly on Twitter.
So and that Putin is actually going into Ukraine in part to rescue those children.
And that is actually considered to be a White Hat, what we call a White Hat operation.
He's doing that in collusion with Trump and the White Hats.
And Trump is a member of the White Hats.
He's the leader or one of the leaders.
As I was saying back when I was answering that question, JFK Jr., who's still alive, and Trump were great friends and they plotted This plan, it's called The Plan, you know, the QAnon or the Q releases, all of this was, I think, the brainchild of Trump and JFK Jr.
and others who are white hats.
So now it's developed to actually a pretty full-on war between the dark side and the light, really between good and evil, if you want to look at it that way.
What do you think is the nature of evil?
Where do you think it comes from?
Well, I have a different point of view than a lot of people, okay?
So, I was not brought up in a religious household.
I did read the Bible, but not until I was 12, and then I questioned things.
And I have to say that, you know, as far as I'm concerned, when you talk about the Creator or God, you're talking about And the essence of all that is, meaning everything, it's over everything.
I don't consider that Satan owns one half the universe and God the other.
I don't see them as equals.
I see Satan as going, as being below God.
And the same with AI.
So when you say God, it's everything.
And with that in mind, so that's what I see in terms of Evil is actually the opposite of good, if you will, and it's most accurately, I think, depicted as yin and yang.
So, Americans tend to have sort of a, I don't know what you want to call that, a Puritanist, you know, the influence of Puritan religion on America, where they try to isolate the devil as being something Unusual or exceptional.
But evil and the opposite of good has always been, in other words, this is a system of polarities.
And these things have always existed.
So you always have, in fact, this is one of the operations of the Illuminati, which is to anytime you take an action, you generate good and you generate its opposite, by the way, evil.
And that in order to Basically what you need to do is balance the opposites and it needs to be a union of opposites in the end which is symbolized best by the yin-yang symbol as far as I'm concerned.
So what a lot of times evil is seen from the point of view of the beholder And if you look back in your own life and you think of things that you thought were bad things that happened, like somebody died, or you broke up with a person, or whatever it happened to be, or you lost your job and you thought it was the worst thing that ever happened, and then a year or two later you realize, well, that was the best thing that ever happened to me!
You know, because that is kind of the nature of good and evil, the way it actually manifests in your life and your understanding of it.
So I think that, you know, there are things that we can't say are good, you know, that are definitely evil.
And, you know, child trafficking obviously is one of those things.
I mean, there are things that I do see.
I'm not a person that thinks everything is relative, but I do also see that What we have termed evil is also to some degree in the eye of the beholder, as I say, and that, in other words, God, or the Creator, has a means of running the systems, and this is a very important part.
Light and dark.
You need dark to see light, and vice versa.
And so what I say is that dark serves the light.
So in the end, A lot of the things that the dark are doing end up switching over to the light, whether they like it or not.
So I just think it's a healthier view.
If you want to think of the devil or Satan as some personification running around doing bad things, you can, but I think that's a simplistic, childish view of the universe.
I think that's one of the programs, actually, that they've inserted in the mind.
Sure.
You know, because I guess from my perspective, I was really thinking about this over the weekend and it just seems to me that a lot of it is because, you know, and the Gaia Project talks about Earth being this, Gaia's being this learning place.
The reason it's a learning place and it's a special energy place is because we have all these different frequency beings here in one spot, and that's unusual.
I mean, that's unheard of in the universe.
And so there's going to be what Abraham Hicks would term contrast always.
As soon as you come into a physical body, you have contrast.
And so, you know what you don't want, you know what you do want, right?
But you don't want to stay on the thing that you don't want and complain about it.
That's why you don't want to pray the problem, right?
Blah blah blah.
But it seems to me that, at least from what I know, and I'm just scratching the surface now, but it seems like the planet has a way of cleansing and purifying this sort of off-gassing, if you will, of this You know, these little collisions, they create little bits of debris, right?
Little low frequency debris, as you might say.
And that sort of gets, but at some point, just the planet just can't keep up with it and just has to, you know, wipe it clean.
And it seems like that's happened a few times over the, you know, the millions of years, billions of years of the planet's existence.
And so I'm just fascinated by this whole idea about And I completely agree.
Light and dark.
People talk about the dark being so evil and we're, you know, light.
And I'm with you on this.
The dark is deep and nourishing.
You know, without the dark, we don't, I mean, the earth is dark, right?
The womb is dark, right?
There's a lot to be learned in the dark.
Right, that we don't ever see in the light.
And so, you know, we have to learn how to honor and understand that it's not like a static relationship, right?
Like, white is not supposed to be like over darkness or darkness over light.
They're spinning.
You know, if you look at, take that yin-yang analogy, they're represented side by side because they're really spinning endlessly, right?
Which is Well, yeah, and it has to do with things like, they call it, I don't, I can't remember the name of it, but it's this idea that things are always just, you know, getting destroyed.
That time over time, you know, that you're slowly dying and all this kind of thing.
But the bottom line is that actually the light prevails.
And this is sort of, I think, the learning experience of realizing that While we're here as well.
And I also think that, you know, if we are God, we are eternal.
And as eternal beings, then we need to become aware of in what ways we are eternal.
And, and, and also being able to, you know, humans, according to the records, used to live thousands of years, now they only live 100, you know, and this has to do with a certain alien race that came in and put a frequency fence In our DNA, apparently, but that we're now changing that.
We're overturning that.
We're reconstituting our own DNA.
So, not only do being, you know, certain alien races come here and genetically engineer us, even today, but that we can reverse that and we can also awaken what they've called junk DNA is not junk at all.
That's been a lie.
And we can reawaken these DNA strands and eventually Come to our full potential.
And I believe that's the challenge.
So I see a lot of dark issues and things that happen as challenges.
I don't necessarily see them as dark.
I see them as challenges.
And I think they're challenges to humanity, sort of a negative stimulus to get humans to grow and to recognize who they are.
Because you never recognize Your true spirit and soul until you have adversity come along and make you face yourself, you know, face to face with these so-called negative happenings that end up to be gifts in a funny way.
So, you know, I can relate to that.
I think it's worthwhile to consider.
And I think if you look over your life, you probably will see this.
I certainly do.
Okay.
I, there are so many things that I thought I wanted that, you know, I didn't get.
And I thought, well, you know, that's not, I was upset at the time.
But then I always had sort of this secret voice saying to me that actually, In the long run, because it kept happening, that it turns out better, you know, that my life was better because these things happened.
And so I think we need to sort of give it credit for that.
I completely agree.
And you know, that's, it's really our life experiences that are the teachers, right?
It's not words that teach, right?
It's that experience of... Yes, very much.
And, you know, I often think about how my own life, it feels like I'm going around in a spiral, and I see things that I saw before, but now I'm in a different level, so I see them differently, right?
And I can kind of, you know, kind of fit things together differently.
Wow, it's so, so interesting.
So, you know, because I really think that, yes, source, because I really feel like sources is really pure positive energy.
It's like this never ending stream of that.
And that in a lot of ways, it's, it's only when we are not connected, we're, and we pinch ourselves off from that, because we have it.
And, you know, we're, we're source energy, right?
We're, we're source energy having a physical... I believe so, yes.
Right?
That's what I call, in our tradition, what we call the soul force, is what, you know, the spirit, a spiritu, right, that inhabits.
And then the body has a force of its own, right, that is energetic as well, and we would call that the life force energy, right?
And so that's the one that goes through all the physical experiences and is that, you know, sort of brain thing as opposed to spirit thing.
So, and I think that we are unique in that respect.
What do you think about, I mean, we talk about the alien races and whatnot.
What do you think is I guess in the future for humanity, and do you feel like it's, you know, already sort of carved in stone in terms of the way we're going to go?
I mean, the Hopi talk about the two paths for, you know, Earth, right?
There'll be some people that go on a lower path and some people that ascend to a higher path.
I hear a lot of people talking about a 5D ascension, which is essentially what's alluded to in the Gaia Project.
I'm really interested to hear from you.
Where do you think we're going?
Where do we think we're going?
Well, I mean, I think we are here to manifest enlightenment and to recognize truly who we are and I guess realize our Godhead or union with the creator in real time. I think we are here to manifest enlightenment and to Okay.
And I think that that will happen for humanity.
I believe that we will ascend to that state.
But I also kind of follow the Nietzschean idea that you can also return.
So I think that he talked about the idea of constant return.
And I think that it's kind of You could think about it this way, you know, it's like at play in the fields of the Lord.
You can go out and play, and I think that the Creator is constantly doing that, and I think we manifest that side of the Creator, if you will.
And so, I don't have a problem with that either.
So, yes, I do think some people will choose a lower, if you want to call it a lower path, or a degenerate or regressive path, I think would be a better word for it.
And others will continue to forge on forward and go towards ascension.
I think that there's no ultimate judgment in that sense, because time is an illusion and so is space.
So once you realize that, and scientists will testify to that, then you understand that if I get there before you, it doesn't make me better than you.
Ultimately, we're both, everything is one and we'll all get there.
You know what I'm saying?
So, I'm not a spiritual materialist, which I think there are a lot of those out there, which I don't like.
So, I think it's very important to realize that if time is an illusion, and I sort of have a saying for myself, that is, you know, if you are ever eternal, then you're always eternal.
You can't sometimes be eternal and sometimes not.
So I think there's a logic there that you have to make sense of.
And even some of the highest teachers out there, I think, get that wrong, frankly.
I mean, I know that sounds like I'm, you know, really arrogant, but whatever you want to call it.
But no, I'm serious that in terms of logic, it doesn't make any sense.
You can't sometimes be eternal.
You're eternal or you're not.
So if that's true, then what it means is that in the wholeness of time, We appear to be less than we are.
We see each other in these bodies, in this time and space.
This is only a glimpse of the soul that you're talking to, right?
So likewise with you, with me, with anyone.
And I try to keep that in mind when I'm dealing with humans and animals or anybody.
You know, understanding that their state of being at the time is not actually who they are.
That they are in transition, moving in a direction.
Maybe they're moving, you know, so-called backwards or forwards, but In essence, they're in a state of being and they're becoming.
They're in a state of becoming.
So, I think understanding that and keeping that in mind when you're dealing with your fellow human, it does really help to kind of forgive them for where they're at now.
Understanding that this is not where they're always going to be, and that someday they may be in, you know, in the position you're in, or a better position than either of you, or whatever it happens to be, you know what I'm saying?
I think that's so important.
I just wanted to second what you had to say about the judgment aspect, because I think that a lot of judgment has to do with Feeling like I've got it, right?
Because if I've got it, then I'm able to judge you.
But the minute you say, I've got it, you definitely don't got it, right?
Because it's a continuing journey.
So that's number one.
And I think that number two is people, this whole duality of victimization, you know, people are Not prepared because they don't understand how powerful they are as their own beings.
So they're easily led by others down a very frightening path, and it's through fear and trauma.
I've had Kathy O'Brien on, I've seen her speak multiple times.
Right.
I have so much, in fact, I'm going to go to an event down here in Sarasota, Skippity-Doo-Dah, to help the survivors of the child, the children that they rescue, because what are you going to do with these poor little ones, right, when they come from hell?
But, you know, in terms of, you know, it's hard not to judge those people, right?
So, I mean, I think there's a difference between discernment and judgment.
And I think that justice, you know, is a tricky concept, right?
Because, you know, who is in a position really to execute justice, right?
I mean, that's kind of an interesting question on its own.
Well, I do think some things, some sentences from the Bible could be, you know, useful and remembered.
Like, what I try, I look at, I see, you know, vengeance is mine, saith the Lord.
So what does that mean?
That means that people that go around thinking they can take That vengeance into their own hands and execute that is executing a judgment upon another human.
And again, I think that that, you know, for people that are religious, who almost always are trying to be vengeful, it's an oxymoron.
You can't at the same time be sort of God-like if you feel that you can take it on yourself, if you follow the Bible and you understand that statement.
So I think, also think that in a sense it also takes the burden Of, you know, you might call it payback.
And this is actually an area where I disagree to some degree with the White Hats, okay?
And I'm sure they don't want to hear me saying this, but, you know, militaries tend to want to take things into their own hands and they want to, you know, dole out vengeance.
Like country to country, I'm talking.
And this is where you get Israel and Palestine and all this constant payback, and it never ends, right?
So I think that it's worth noting that it doesn't actually, if you watch the dynamic of the world, and if you have a longer view, like one of sort of reincarnation and so on, you might actually know that indeed
If you want to call it vengeance, that payback or vengeance is in the hands of the Lord and will be doled out, no doubt, so that it's not up to you.
And in fact, if you take it on yourself to do that, then I think you take on a karmic debt.
That you probably, you know, shouldn't do because you're actually stepping back in your own trajectory.
So I think it's very important to realize that, you know, you can't be forgiving and vengeful in the same breath, you know, that it doesn't work.
Right, well, and it's a very low frequency, you know, that whole anger, rage is way down on the emotional frequency scale, right?
And it's interesting too, because it reminds me about thought forms, right?
And not sort of being, it's so hard to explain thought forms.
You'll probably be better at it than me.
But basically, if enough people think something, With a lot of emotion for a long amount of time, it actually creates an energetic being that, for lack of a better term, I call a thought form.
And they're not like an alien or a human, but it's like a, almost like a cloud.
Yeah, I mean, in some cases it's called meme.
It's a meme.
You know what a meme is?
You know, it's that idea.
So it has a life of its own.
I think that's true.
But I think that, you know, in other words, it bothers me when people that call themselves Christians can't even get the most basic things that Jesus was trying to convey right, okay?
So, you know, forgiveness is actually one of the central themes in his program, whatever you want to call it, you know?
And so understanding As far as I'm concerned, okay, let's look at the adrenochrome issue and child trafficking.
It's horrendous, okay, and I, as much as anyone else, might like to see those people shot.
But nonetheless, I can stop and say, what are you going to do about these people?
Because if it's an epidemic, then that means it's become so common in Parts of society.
And you have to deal with these people.
They're actually, by the way, people, Illuminati teach their kids to be this way.
And they also have it in their genetics.
It's a reptilian DNA thing that happened with the influx of the reptilians into humanity, which has happened.
And for example, the Bush family has more reptilian DNA.
The Blue Bloods supposedly have more reptilian DNA.
That makes them more aggressive.
That makes them climb to the top of industry and be leaders or dictators or whatever you want to say.
So, When you're looking to the future, you cannot kill them all.
That's what I'm trying to tell people.
You know, it's not logical.
And you can't legislate it out of existence.
You can't legislate evil out of existence.
It's not, you know, it's already embedded in the yin-yang, the Godhead, etc.
So, there's a reason for it.
There's a purpose behind it.
So, then you need to work with it.
And that's where I think we have to get to.
I don't think people are there yet.
But I definitely think we have to get there.
Someone in the chat, I guess it's a chat person, is asking about JD Vance, and I think he's very likely a member of that There's evidence that he's been in companies that are involved with adrenochrome and so on and so forth.
And it's insane, as far as I'm concerned, that Trump would have brought him on board as his running mate.
But this is the trouble that we're having on planet Earth.
You know, people want to have, you might call it purity or whatever.
But the fact of the matter is that is that, again, you can't get rid of this negative side.
And one of the brilliant things about the White Hats is the idea that they have had one of their policies has been to keep their friends close, but their enemies closer.
And this is something that motivates Trump and people do not understand it.
But he's doing it all the time.
And he does it on purpose.
And I think part of the idea here is, if you can think about it this way, I tend to think that we are the teachers of the dark.
That we are here to educate them and to show them the light.
So, in essence, what you can bring to the dark is your light.
Okay?
That's what you can bring.
And they will eventually recognize that and then perhaps find it in themselves and change their ways.
We're going to have to deal with these kinds of things because, again, you just can't kill them all.
You know, every Israeli who wants to kill a Palestinian and pretty soon there are no people left, you know, so understanding that then maybe God and the universe or the multiverse had something else in mind when they put us into this situation where we're constantly faced with The most dire of evils.
And yet, here we are also having some of the most beautiful good right and you can see good in children, if nothing else.
Yeah, so anyway, that's the way I see it.
I see that we have to deal with this.
That doesn't mean you wouldn't necessarily isolate or imprison, you know, sex offenders and murderers.
I mean, but you don't have to torture them either.
I mean, you're not going to... Torture doesn't create goodness, okay, by any stretch.
Okay, so you want to torture these people who have tortured others.
It's just a vicious circle.
You have to stop it.
Right.
And I wish that, you know, militaries in the world would have a better understanding of that concept.
And, and so on.
So and that includes the White Hats and their approach to saving our world.
Yeah, it's interesting because whenever you get into that revenge mode, that's a little further up the emotional guidance scale than just like, you know, despair, but it's not that high either, right?
That's the whole thing about revenge, but it does give you relief from that fear when you're in despair.
I mean, if you have that motivation for revenge, I think that's a good point.
I think that, you know, it's difficult to imagine how you You wore yourself out of war, you know, in some respects.
I mean, on the other hand, you know, You know, if you look at what happened the last, you know, Lemuria and Atlantis, I mean, they basically just got blasted away because it just wasn't, we just weren't able to, and maybe it's a matter of the frequency balance, right?
And maybe that's what the real challenge is here, Carrie, and I think I'm with you on this, is because every time I talk to Kathy O'Brien, I walk away feeling hopeful.
And just that raising of my energy and my vibration, I think that if we could just work on that more, in other words, not rubberneck the car accident quite so much, and keep our focus on the things that we do want, because she is probably She has every reason to be vengeful and angry, but she's not.
She's the most loving, hopeful, positive human being that you'll ever interact with, or at least that I have.
I mean, it's incredible.
So I think it's really a matter of Being understanding and stepping back into your own power.
Because as you pointed out, the present moment is the only place where you have any hope of changing the experience or learning a lesson, right?
The present moment, how you approach it.
And so you have a choice of how you're going to do it.
And you also have a choice about how you interpret things.
I tell the story, you wouldn't know it, so I'll tell it again for your benefit.
But when I was apprenticing with Susan, I was harvesting stinging nettle, and stinging nettle, true to its name, was stinging the heck out of me.
Six feet tall, it was 100 degrees outside, I was pissed, right?
I was like, ow, ow, ow, this hurts, this hurts, and I was just bitching away.
And my apprentice sister looks over at me and she goes, you know, I think of it more like energy than pain.
And in that instant, Carrie, that whole experience changed from me to being a super unpleasant one, to being one where I was playing with the energy.
Well, in some respects, I think a lot of the work and part of what I teach, I mean, I call myself an herbalist and I am an herbalist, but so much of what I teach people is the medicines that are mind and energy medicines, right?
Because expectation is a huge medicine, right?
You get what you expect almost all of the time.
And so I think you're really on to something here in terms of, you know, it's hard to imagine how you raise the frequency of these low frequency beings, some of which are so far from source, they're so disconnected from source, how do you plug them back in by, you know, basically torturing them and wiping them out?
I feel you on that.
I'm just kind of just like talking off the top of my head.
Well, I have a girlfriend, we talk about this from time to time, and she was saying, you know, and I believe this too, it's also something we used to say back in the early days of Camelot, you know, if you kill us, we're just going to come back.
So, that's actually the reality.
You know, you can't destroy energy, as they say.
So, one has to come to terms with life and death and understand that death is not the end of life, that life continues on and we just continue in different modes.
So we transform ourselves, okay, into different forms of energy.
And indeed, all this killing is not doing anything, okay?
It's not solving a problem, okay?
It may temporarily clear the decks, so it looks like better or more conducive to whatever it is you want to conduct.
But the bottom line is, It's always going to come back.
And I also think about repressive societies.
So I have friends who are very religious and one in particular who's, you know, very religious and He so thinks that we can go back in time to a more repressive religious culture.
And he thinks that's the answer, you know?
And I can't, you know, it makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.
And I don't even know what to say to the guy, right?
Because he doesn't get it.
He doesn't understand that repression, you know, if you repress and you push down and you oppress, Anything in humans, all you're going to do is foster its opposite and it will grow.
In fact, it may grow faster and stronger because it's kind of like Maybe that rebellion, you know, I call my book Rebel Gene, that rebellion is a natural human tendency.
And I'm always thinking about, you know, the blade of grass that grows up through cement, you know, this like little fragile thing that still somehow manages to come back to life.
I think, yes.
If society and humans stop thinking that when they're killing someone, they're actually killing them, then we might actually have an awakening worldwide because it is so insane.
I know that a lot of people like to talk about reincarnation or they like to talk that they They believe in life after death, eternal life in God, and so on.
But they don't really believe it, you know, half the time.
They don't really walk the walk, as I say.
And yet, I don't know why it is, but I believe completely in this, you know?
And I guess I've lived enough lifetimes to where it makes perfect sense to me that, you know, Killing is not the answer, and it's not going to do away with the problem.
So, you know, so yeah, so I think that that's a huge hurdle for humanity.
And once we realize that, is when we begin to really truly ascend.
Okay.
And, and so on.
Well, you know, and just as we're talking about this, it reminds me so much that we talk so much about the Christos energy, but, and I think that the Sophia energy is what we're talking about now, right?
And if you look at it as masculine and feminine, you can really crisply see it now, right?
Because what do men, men don't tend to cry or express emotion, They get enraged.
When they yell at me, I call that man tears, right?
Because I'm in the mortgage business, and if a guy isn't getting his loan, he'll yell at me for like 10 minutes, whereas a woman might cry, right?
So I realize it's not personal, it's just that's the way they express.
So, you know, they have this sort of, yeah, you know, we gotta take vengeance is mine, and you know, and that's a very, you know, and Don't get me wrong.
I think, you know, good for men that we have that energy.
But then there's this other energy, which is the Sophia energy, which is the feminine energy, which is, hey, let's look at this energetically.
Let's look at this emotionally.
Let's see if we can find some inner peace here, not just for us, but for these beings that are clearly Not unhappy.
I mean, these are low-frequency beings.
Maybe they're just destined to that.
But, you know, and I don't know if you saw the Harold Kautz, I couldn't find it, but he was talking about how really, and very recently, Satan has been redeemed.
Satan has been reconnected to Source.
And so that healing has already begun.
I don't know if that's true or it's just an interesting perspective, right?
Because people have this idea of, and I think you're right, the Bible was used to intentionally deceive people for an agenda that has nothing to do with the divine.
Just like healthcare has nothing to do with making you better, right?
You know, they do this sort of inversion kind of nonsense.
Well, I certainly wouldn't say that Satan has been redeemed.
Maybe for him he has, but the bottom line here is going to be that, in other words, as I said, Satan has always been, in essence, reporting to God.
So, it is simply that what he represents.
There is no Satan.
There is this satanic.
There is the negative, the evil, and so on.
But people have this tendency to want to personify, you know, like God is wearing a beard and laying on a cloud.
It's not like that, you know.
This is energy, and this energy By the way, has been here forever.
So it didn't suddenly, you know, at eight o'clock yesterday, decide to redeem Satan.
It's just not like that.
Okay, I'm sorry.
No offense to anyone.
Just saying that let's be intelligent about this.
Let's understand this, again, the union of opposites.
That opposites are Manifesting, and they're going to continue to manifest, but it's actually how we relate to them, right?
And so the decisions you make in the face of that, and again, the decisions that our so-called leaders, you give them the the chore or the the honor of being your so-called leader, and they make bad decisions, okay?
And they perpetuate the constant struggle between light and dark, and some Would say that that struggle is going to be never ending.
Okay, so there's that side of it.
And I do believe that to a certain degree, that is true.
But it doesn't mean that the beings that are currently inhabiting evil right now will inhabit it forever.
You know, in other words, it's very possible for them to become redeemed, not Satan, but humans or other beings from other walks of life and other galaxies and so on.
So this is what we're talking about.
We're talking about an opportunity to understand more deeply what does it mean to be human?
Why are we here now, you know, and where are we headed?
You know, all of these things.
And how successful has it been through the eons to have war after war after war with no resolution, no obvious resolution, okay?
And so on.
So, I think the answers are there.
I don't think they're rocket science, even.
I don't think it makes you brilliant to think that, wait a minute, can you really ever kill someone?
Is that a solution?
Right.
Yeah.
And I think it has to do with what we are expressing when we're in action, right?
So to your point, I think that the act of murder lowers you.
to a level of the thing that you're trying to supposedly fight against, but it sure does feel good when you're wielding the sword, I suppose.
Interesting questions.
So now, you talked about the J.D.
Vance.
I want to come back to that for a minute because somebody sent me something saying that the J.D.
Vance thing was... I don't know if it's another part of the plan.
You were talking about holding your enemies closer.
Do you think he's... because I understand, my understanding, and you know this better than me, but my understanding is there are a lot of these influential people around the world that were given a choice.
Look, you can either hang at Gitmo Or you can come over to the White Hats and help us in terms of the mission.
So I'm just kind of curious, I mean, in terms of JD Vance, do you think that was another poor choice by Trump?
So the information out there, and it's pretty prevalent, is the original J.D.
Vance was, I think, if I've got it right, I could have it wrong, but was taller than the one that's out there now by a substantial number of four or five inches.
So it's really obvious this guy is a stand-in.
Okay.
But it's also kind of In a certain way, it seems to be the way of the White Hats, to want to put people on pedestals like Fauci, for example, that are evil incarnate, so to speak, and deal with them.
I wouldn't want to be in the same room with Pence, who is also a notorious pedo.
Or Biden, for that matter, who's also a notorious peddle.
And the current one is not even, he's an actor, he's not the real guy, he died when he was inaugurated when they gave him a funeral.
So, you know, but to put these things out there in such a way, and then what happens when you do that, of course, is people start researching and they start investigating, and more and more people get on board, and then the person gets exposed for who they really are.
And that's happening to Kamala right now.
It's happened to Biden.
It's happened to all these people.
And I don't think Vance is going to be any different.
So this is where things are headed.
I think this is, you know, one of the ways to eliminate evil is to shine a light on it.
Okay?
And I certainly follow that pattern with my work.
I expose the evil, I expose the nefarious, the conspiracies, whatever it is, hiding in the dark.
And by throwing a light on it, meaning exposing it to the light so that people can see what it is, it gets eradicated.
It's the nature of light.
It just kind of clears things out.
Because once you know, it loses its power.
A lot of the power of the dark comes from the dark.
So, if you expose it to the light, it dissipates and basically has to kind of come clean, literally and figuratively and so on.
There's all these words, right, that make sense along these lines.
So, just saying that.
This is what we're doing.
We're exposing things to the light, and I think that the White Hats on the good side are actually trying to do that.
I don't always agree with their method, you know, but I think that they also are looking at things from various, you know, they have generals that, several generals that ask Trump to run.
Trump is the front guy, you know, the whole story.
So, The generals have a certain military way of looking at the world, right?
And then on top of it, they're using an AI.
I've been told this by Wano Seven.
So I know they're using an AI.
So they're going to get a sort of a bunch of A mixture of possible actions to go through, right?
And to decide on which one is the right action.
One of the parameters I'm told they have is the least loss of life.
Okay, so the least loss of life is one of their parameters.
And so they will choose their paths, their actions, if you will.
Based on that premise.
So, you know, I mean, that seems like a very good parameter.
If you're going to take action, you might want to look along those lines, you know, in that way.
Right.
Well, that's a blessing.
I mean, do you think that Do you think that there's a catastrophic event coming for Earth in the sort of what, maybe the near term?
I know that, I think you referred to it earlier, we're entering this photon belt, that field in Sagittarius where the energy frequencies are higher, the toroidal field, I'm probably not speaking about it.
But I mean, I guess, what do you think is, I mean, is there some coming physical cataclysm that's going on?
Well, it's, okay, the jury is still out on that, as far as I'm concerned.
I can tell you that even today, there was a bunch of, somebody sent me a bunch of Twitter things, where they are saying that very famous CEOs, including Klaus Schwab, Jamie Dimon, and others are all quitting By 2025.
And Richard Allen Miller had come on my show a few years ago to talk about this event that was coming down the pike.
It's not going to be an extinct, what we call an extinction level event, but it may involve earth changes and it may involve a shifting of the poles to some degree.
I don't think it's going to be as cataclysmic perhaps as they're making it out to be, but it's definitely going to change things.
And it could stimulate more volcanism, it could stimulate all kinds of stuff.
And I myself have, I'm a pre-cog, I have dreams of the future.
I have seen land rising up in the Pacific opposite San Francisco.
So I believe that there is something like that coming.
When?
I don't know.
Richard Allen Miller, he initially said it was going to be April of 2024 and then he changed his mind and said April of 2025.
And then he said it's in the offing and it could be sometime in the next 120 years.
So take your pick, you know, as to when you think that all might happen and or if it'll happen at all.
Right.
It's interesting to think about because, I mean, we do see the behavior of some of these nefarious traitors, perpetrators, and getting ready to scurry underground, almost in preparation for some service event.
Yeah, although it is also said that being underground is not going to save you for what it's worth.
Well, and you know, there's some that don't even like, you know, that point out that in Lemuria, we weren't really all this solid.
You know, we're, you know, we're in this really dense 3D, you know, which, you know, may not really sort of be our quote unquote natural state.
Uh, so maybe there's, maybe we won't even need these bodies, so it kind of, it's a moot point.
We won't need the physical anymore, I don't know.
Well, we are, I mean, we have already moved into 4D in a, in a major way, and this, I believe, is why people think they see a flat Earth, is because Part of 4D is seeing an unlimited flat plane going out in either direction or every direction.
And so that's like the nature of the perception of where we are.
We're actually going into 5D, which is bringing you back into the sort of, I guess you might say, platonic solids end of things.
But You know, where you have densities and you have dimensions.
So, densities going vertical, dimensions perhaps horizontal or something like that.
And it might not even be like that.
I'm not a scientist so I can't, you know, I don't spend my time figuring that, the physics out of that.
But I can tell you that there are, you know, scholars and people that have followed this kind of thing and been studying this kind of thing and There could be Earth changes.
There's been Earth changes in the past, so there could be Earth changes in the future.
But then again, it also has to do with where humanity is at.
So, consciousness, I always say consciousness is king, and consciousness of humanity is what is really going to dictate what things come into our future, at least in this this mode here on earth as we consider it, right, while we're here during this journey, this sojourn.
So, as humans bring into their consciousness certain things and then it is said that experiences are there to obviously teach, right, and so you decide what experiences you want to experience in order to learn whatever lessons you'd like to learn.
Or just, if you don't want to call them lessons, you could just say realizations that you'd like to have, or remembering, right, to remember, to recall, because, you know, there's lots to existence, if you want to call it that.
That is so multi-dimensional that it's also worthwhile to review certain things.
So, you may have things that happened to you in the past or past lives and then they might happen to you here in this life in a different form for you to revisit it, right, and review it and so on.
So, Interesting.
I think it really depends on the masses of humanity and then if and when something like that happens, you'll also find different groups of humans experiencing these things.
No one will have the exact same experience, you know, no groups.
Individuals, even like right this second, think about today.
Today some people are having a wonderful day, Some people are having a horrible day.
Some people are having a mixture.
You know, that's how life is.
And it's not the same for all of us, no matter what you experience, right?
Right.
Yeah, because, you know, everybody's, I guess, to use another Abraham term, putting their boat in the water where they're putting their boat in the water, right?
They are energetically where they are, where they're starting out to be.
So I think that your points about being patient Right, not being so judgmental of people that aren't as far down the path of sort of enlightenment, for lack of a better term.
Um, to be patient with those people.
Um, you know, I'm, I'm struggling a little bit with the whole vaccine injury thing.
Um, my, um, uh, my friend from New York called to say that her neighbor just died, uh, aged, uh, 61, you know, heart attack, you know, fully vaxxed and boosted.
And I just, you know, I'm really just really trying to, Not let that pull me into this rage, right?
Because I've been in the rage, I've experienced the rage, I've been experiencing the grief.
The flu shots took my mom down, so that's a long story to talk about that.
But, you know, it takes a while, just like it takes a while to move through grief.
It takes us a little time to move through these various emotions into a place where we can Yeah, but I think it's important to realize that people elected, in many cases, to take the flu shots.
I mean, there were some people that got into a situation where they had to change their whole life.
You know, quit school, quit the military.
I mean, I know a guy who quit the military because they wanted to vax him.
I mean, that takes a lot of courage.
Some people just don't have the courage on hand.
They haven't learned to have that much courage.
But you definitely have to understand that there was a choice.
A lot of times in these things that we experience, there is a choice of some kind.
You know, you might not want to think about it like that.
Now, there have been people that were force vaxxed.
And in fact, I just read that they're going to force vax.
This place in Queensland, in Australia, they're actually planning to force vax the entire county or whatever it is.
I mean, that's how their leaders have become complete and total Nazis.
And I mean, how insane is that?
So they're going to force vax everyone who lives there.
So you have a choice, right?
What's your choice?
Leave Queensland now, you know, if you can get out, if they're not blocking the roads, you know, whatever.
I'm serious because they're going to vax you.
They're going to put it in aerosol.
They're going to spray the entire place.
And that's their plan.
I mean, that's how insane.
So they're going to change your DNA and you're going to have to just live with it.
So what do you want?
What do you want to do?
You know, that's the reality.
And I think that that's an excellent point, you know, that people have a choice.
People have a choice when they know the information.
I think that, you know, like in my mom's case, you know, she was, you know, going to her doctor, you know, being a good little girl, right?
She didn't know any better, right?
And this is what I mean about the mind control being in multi-generational.
It's like, it is thought, right?
I mean, like I had to go to college because nobody in my family had gone to college and I had to achieve all of these things because, you know, money is important and moved to New York, you know, where you can make it there, you can make it anywhere.
And I did, and I did all of those things and I got to try.
But you know what I think of that.
I also think that a lot of the souls that that actually were unknowing, they didn't know they maybe they didn't go through Nazi Germany, they didn't see that they were used and experimented on, or they didn't know about MKUltra, You know, but it is your job.
See, I talked to people when I did my lecture saying, you know, you weren't given this opportunity to incarnate here and just, you know, lay on the beach and eat bonbons, even though it might be fun.
That's not why we're here.
We're here to actually be warriors and to expose and to learn and share our realizations with each other and awaken other humans and, you know, a myriad of reasons that we're here.
But some, a lot of the people that were unknowing at that time, a couple years ago, let's say, four years ago, may reincarnate as children in the next wave.
So they will be positioned, and they will have a soul memory, and they will never let that happen on surface Earth again.
So it's, you know, I'm not saying it's good that they died.
I'm just saying you could look at it in another way towards the future of that soul.
That the soul's life is not ended, it's not over forever.
There may be an opportunity presented here for them to actually contribute in a way they weren't able to in this life.
I just You know, you might find some solace there.
I certainly do believe that this is the case, that we are given these opportunities.
We either accept them or reject them.
You know, your mission, should you decide to accept it, right?
Right.
Well, and you know, to your earlier point, and I think it's such an important point, is that You know, I think basically what you said was evil really is always in service to the good, whether unwittingly or not.
I don't think evil, you know, whatever evil might be, is that, you know, it's all going to work.
It's always working out in some form or fashion, right?
It's like the universe has not come to an end.
Um and we've been in it for billions of years so my guess is it will continue to exist and you know the planets will continue to spin so and and then if you if you remove that because what are people really afraid of right at the end of the day because fear seems to me to be the big block In so many ways.
It blocks people from getting the information.
Oh, I don't want to look like an idiot or a conspiracy theorist.
Oh my god, you know.
Or to literal fears, you know, that, oh my gosh, I'm going to go to hell and burn forever if I don't do x, y, and z and say these words.
And somehow, you know, eating flesh and drinking blood in church is supposed to, I'm sorry, I just, ooh, that just, and by the way, I was a Bible thumper when I was younger, but, but, but, you know, this, this idea, you know, is, and I think it's this fear.
And so I think that, and people get afraid, you know, when you start talking about black hats, white hats, politics, you know, dumbs and adrenochrome, you know, And people tend to respond out of fear.
And so what I want to encourage people to do is, yes, when you see this information, especially for the first time, it is so shocking, and it should be shocking to you.
If it's not shocking to you, there is something wrong with you, right?
But you don't have to go into a position of fear.
Once you get processed through this, You will understand how powerful you really are.
I guess in the time that we have left, Carrie, I think you're so deep and wide, as it were, in terms of not only what you know in your head, but what you know in your heart and in your source of you.
In terms of how do we move forward, what would be, I guess, I want to spend the rest of the show, I'm just going to turn it over to you, where, no really, I really want, you know, if you have 15-20 minutes to basically coach people in terms of what would be your best advice in terms of Because I think a lot of it has to do with being, rather than necessarily doing.
But I mean, you know, where do you focus, right?
Because what I see right now, at least in terms of, you know, where I sit, and I kind of came at this through the medical freedom movement, through my mom's flu shots, which I discovered gave her blood clots in her lungs.
Well before COVID and then ultimately her 25 year old cancer came roaring back the year following and then she passed.
Okay, so that was a big wake-up call for me and boy was I pissed about it, you know, and but it didn't make me into a fearful place, but it probably saved my life because I was I was like, I'm not taking any shot.
No way.
No, no, no.
I saw what happened to my mom just with the flu shot, right?
So I thank her every single day.
But in terms of I guess you know a lot of people there's so many different messages coming out now and what I also observe is there's so many people out there pushing some sort of product or a pill or a thing or a fix or this or that which starts to bother me a little bit because I understand from all my years in business What would you recommend to people?
How do you, as you put it, resonate?
How do you know if you're resonating with something?
coming at us and this one's a, you know, is a PSYOP or this one's a plant or this one, you know, you know, what would you recommend to people?
You know, how do you, as you put it, resonate?
How do you know if you're resonating with something?
What would be your best advice to people?
Let's let you go wherever you are.
Well, I mean, I think that there's ways...
I mean, obviously, you can learn to meditate.
Okay, so that's one way.
The other way is also listening to your body.
I mean, every single day, not just once in a while, but trying to tune in to your inner self and to where you're at, at any given moment, right?
And then understanding how you feel.
I sort of think of it as a dialogue.
We're in constant communication with God.
God is talking to us through signs and signals, through our own body, through others that come into our path that might say something.
That doesn't even make sense at the time, and then you realize that, oh my god, that person said something that was right on, it just happened, or it happened, you know, that kind of thing, where reality around us speaks to us, okay?
And you just said, you know, your mother actually did a service to you, right?
She took it, but you didn't, okay?
So, I had a similar thing.
My mother died of cancer.
I was getting packed up to leave a job, And go take care of her.
And she died on the spot in the arms of one of my sisters.
And so I couldn't, I didn't leave, I wasn't going to leave my job.
And you know, it worked out differently.
I ended up having to take care of the estate and things like that.
But Nonetheless, I knew that her signal was, I'm not going to do this to you.
I'm going to leave now.
And of course, she was ready to leave.
Her body had reached that stage.
And so what I'm saying is that we don't realize sometimes when people do a service to us, Even sometimes, like again, when it's a dark service, you think it's a bad thing, somebody harmed you or did something terrible to you, and then you're going to find out maybe a week later, maybe years later, thank God that happened because something much worse didn't happen type thing.
So, I see in the chat that somebody says, Russia evacuates 180,000 citizens from Iran I guess, they're saying.
What is the significance of all this going on?
One of the crescendos that we may experience in the Middle East with Russia, and I think Putin is playing a certain role, actually with What we call Xi and Trump to some degree, whether they're consciously actually orchestrating this or whether they're simply stepping up to the plate because that's already where they stand, you know what I mean?
I can't say for sure, but I can say that In other words, there is going to be at least one or seven who look, they have an AI, the AI sees the future.
So they see the future in terms of potentialities.
So there's a high degree of possibility that there is going to be a sort of a nuclear standoff that Juan has been talking about for quite some time, a year or two, literally.
So, you know, if you don't listen to him, you don't hear it, but he says this, and he's JFK Jr., by the way, and so he's not somebody who doesn't know anything.
He's actually lived quite an amazing life, and so he's also part of the White Hats, and they're getting this information.
They're telling it to the people in the only way they've chosen to do so.
So what does it mean?
It means that then what's going to happen is our military is going to come forward.
They're going to admit that Trump is the commander-in-chief, that he has the nuclear codes, because Biden certainly doesn't have them, okay?
And thank God he doesn't, right?
And so then Trump is going to be put forward by the military and be put back in office.
They're going to announce that the election was stolen in 2020, which indeed it was, and they've got proof.
I mean, this is the snowball that's supposed to come along.
What is it going to be propelled by?
A negative event, right?
A standoff that he has to come forward to prevent.
Now, I can't say it's going to happen exactly like that, and I could be off base on certain things.
I know that's how it's been told to us that it's supposed to happen, something like that.
And so I just want to say that a lot of times the universe, I call it the universe, speaks to us.
And it could be a sign on a road that has a word in it or some wording that you needed to hear that day for whatever reason.
Or it could be, you know, a close brush with death or merely an accident that you survived.
Or what, you know what I'm saying?
In other words, every day, every moment, God is speaking to us.
It's a constant dialogue.
Constant.
So you can't ever say, well, I just talked to God today.
No, you talk to him every day.
You just don't know it.
You know, because it's inevitable.
You know, we are communicators.
God is a communicator.
It's just that.
This is what I would say.
I would say, listen.
Some people listen by meditating.
Some people meditate by riding a bicycle, riding a subway.
You know, they're in a state of meditation.
They don't even know they're meditating, but they are.
They're in a state of receptiveness and listening, and that's a great state to be in because then you'll get information coming to you.
You might think, oh, it's a bright idea that you just had, or it might be somebody Again, a messenger that comes and says something to you, and you realize it's true, and it propels you to do thus and so.
What I'm saying is, we have to listen, and we have to listen very carefully, and the more dangerous our situation is, the more we have to listen.
Well, what does listening really do?
It tunes you into God.
Is that a bad thing?
No, but it seems to be coming along as a result of what appears to be a negative thing, right?
You have to listen because if you don't, you're going to be dead.
You know, that kind of thing.
So, I guess that's what I would say.
I would say the way I look at it is that everything that happens to us is to wake us up to recognize our spirit and our soul and our oneness with Source.
That's it.
It's very simple, you know, but it happens every day in every way imaginable.
And this is what's happening to our planet.
And people are, what are they doing?
They're waking up as a result of this.
And yes, sometimes it's negative.
Sometimes it's a beautiful positive thing that can wake you up.
Some blessing, some incredible thing, the birth of a child, whatever it happens to be.
So I love what you said about listening, you know, that I think it's just really important.
Yeah.
And listening, not just to, not really so much physical listening.
It's almost like, like, like heart listening.
It's like, what does your heart tell you?
What does your gut tell you?
What does your intuition tell you about that thing?
How does it make you feel right?
That's sort of, you know, listening with all of your senses, so to speak.
Yeah, so I think that that's where we're at.
I think the closer we come to any kind of these negative things, it's just, and I'm just looking at time.
So Trump is going to be interviewed today by Elon Musk, assuming it happens, right?
So just for people that might want to be tuning into that.
Is that coming up in nine minutes or is that an hour and nine minutes?
I don't remember.
I don't know what time.
I'm trying to see the clock, but it's really small in my computer.
Here in Eastern, it's... Well, it's eight o'clock.
He's coming on the air at eight o'clock.
So then we'll get, we'll definitely have to get off here very soon.
And I need to go listen to that as well.
Well, no, this is really, I mean, so great, Carrie.
Thank you.
You've asked some very good questions, you know.
We had an offline conversation.
You didn't know if you were gonna Really, I know, look, I know what to ask, and I think you didn't have any problem whatsoever, so it's all good.
Oh, good.
Well, it's so nice to have you, and I would definitely love to have you back in future.
You know, as I said to you, you know, a lot of my folks are, you know, this is brand new information to a lot of people.
So, you know, I encourage everybody to go to Project Camelot Portal and check out, I mean, there's so, so much there.
And, you know, this isn't just somebody's opinion.
This is somebody who's actually interviewed people that have been in these experiences.
So thank you, Carrie, for everything that you do, and I look forward to seeing you the next time.