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Aug. 22, 2024 - Project Camelot

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MICHAEL SCHRATT CRASH RETREIVALS

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	Thank you.
	Hi, everyone.
	I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
	I have Michael Schratt, a good friend of mine and a wonderful researcher, archivist.
	He's an aerospace historian and also an expert, I think at this point, on crash retrievals.
	Which, of course, everyone's familiar with.
	Lou Elizondo is in the news big time because of his book, Imminent.
	He is talking about the fact that we have crash retrievals, which is a good thing for us.
	Wouldn't you say, Michael?
	Absolutely.
	We always need independent confirmation of these cases because they're so long throughout history now.
	The more people that come forward, the better.
	The giggle factor is lowering down, and that's what we want.
	Exactly.
	And Michael has been doing his own shows for quite some time now, and I post those shows on my Telegram channel, in case you're not familiar.
	Thank you for doing that, Carrie.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, well, I'm happy to do it.
	But I want people to know that, you know, where they can go.
	And so I put your links on Telegram today with your YouTube link and so on.
	You know, sometime at a certain point, maybe towards the end, we'll ask you to repeat where people can find you and that sort of thing.
	I just want to make sure that your word is getting out there because we're in a very hot time for the whole UFO disclosure.
	UAP, whatever you want to call it.
	And of course, crash retrievals are primary, because this is where we're going to get reverse engineered technology.
	And some of those crashes could be ours.
	Some could be theirs, as we call them.
	And so on.
	So, you know, Michael documents every detail and he also has someone who illustrates so you can get an idea visually of what we're talking about.
	So I think that's a very valuable thing that you're doing there, Michael, and I want to see you continue.
	Let's go.
	Take it away.
	Okay.
	I suppose we could try to share screen here.
	Let's see if this works.
	Let's see here.
	Share.
	Okay, so do you see this, Carrie?
	Yes, historical UFO cases updated.
	Good, good, good.
	Okay, so let's see if I can switch to full mode here.
	Let's see here.
	Slideshow from the beginning.
	Okay, how about that?
	Do you see that full screen?
	Uh, well, full screen is at the person's discretion.
	So, um, that's, you know, we see, we see that with, uh, you know, we have a side panel of, of, of the slides and stuff.
	No problem.
	No problem.
	So.
	I want to start right here.
	And I want to give the map of where all this went down.
	I want to give you like dates, locations, times, references, names of where I'm getting this information.
	So this first case that we're going to consider, which I thought was a very interesting case, this is 30 miles east off the coast of Corpus Christi, Texas on an offshore oil drilling rig platform.
	That's what we're talking about here.
	And we're looking at 250 You know, we're talking about real men here.
	They always have oil on them.
	This is a real serious situation.
	They've got, they're laying pipe and they've got chains in them.
	These guys are not lying.
	I mean, why would they lie?
	So, bottom line is, this is 30 miles off the coast of Corpus Christi, Texas.
	And, you know, basically we're looking at one of these offshore oil drilling platforms.
	That's the site picture of this first case here, and I've got the bullet items on this case.
	The witness is Jeremy Clark, offshore oil drilling engineer.
	There were 250 other people on the platform.
	December 1997 is when all this went down off the coast of Corpus Christi, Texas.
	Now, what they originally heard was this low frequency rumbling noise.
	And, you know, they saw these helicopters approaching the oil rig.
	However, the noise didn't come from the helicopters.
	All of a sudden, the copters stopped completely in midair, and up from the ocean comes this absolutely massive Cigar-shaped craft that had water dripping off the sides.
	It was twice the size of a football field.
	It had a series of concave sections on the bottom with four what looked like inverted domes on the bottom of it.
	Now, where I got this was from Ben Field, the BUFOD website.
	That's the reference for this.
	Now, instead of me just talking about this, let me show you what we're talking about here.
	So this is the size of this crap.
	There were military helicopters below this whole thing, as it's rising above, about two football fields in size, there's water dripping off the side of this thing, and then this thing departed very quickly.
	Now when the helicopters flew over the oil drilling platform, They could hear no sound from the helicopter.
	So there was intent here.
	There was a design here.
	There was foreknowledge.
	The military knew about what was going on here because there were at least 20 CH-47s.
	There was a couple of UH-1 Kiwis involved.
	Now let's take this information that we got from the original source.
	We're going to hook it up with Rudy's drawing.
	I'm going to go to the full color rendering and carry this is the best we could come up with with this case.
	Just off the coast of Corpus Christi, Texas.
	It's a gorgeous picture.
	And we've got multiple cases of the military being involved in USO cases for sure.
	I've got another one we're going to consider, but I just wanted to highlight this because it shows an intent.
	It shows foreknowledge.
	It shows interaction with USOs and the United States military.
	There's definitely a correlation here.
	So let's go to the next case here.
	And I want to highlight Mark McCamlish.
	Now, he's no longer with us.
	However, he was a friend of mine.
	I cared about him very deeply.
	I respected him.
	I want to give credit for Mark for telling me about this case.
	And I want to preserve his legacy.
	I'm not going to let Mark's memory die or his legacy die.
	I'm going to keep on promoting what he has done.
	So I want to give credit to Mark for telling me about this.
	Now, he had told me about this case years ago.
	He discussed this case on multiple audio podcast interviews and also video interviews.
	He may have actually told you about this, Carrie.
	I'm not sure, but he's talked about this before.
	Now, okay, what are we talking about here?
	Well, let me set up the background here.
	So this is LA Times, September 6, 1983.
	This kind of shows you half of the map of what we're calling Aerospace Alley.
	So if anyone listening to this interview gets bored on a Sunday morning or Sunday afternoon, and this can be done in one day, it can be done, but you have to be quick about it.
	You can start in San Diego and you can take the 5 North.
	And you can head up toward Hawthorne, Los Angeles, where Northrop is.
	You can continue heading up the 5 North and you can go to the 14 North that takes you into Palmdale, Lancaster.
	That will take you to Air Force Plant 42, where we've got multiple defense contractors at this facility.
	If you keep on following this map here, You'll see Edwards Air Force Base off to the right.
	This is hallowed ground.
	This is where Chuck Yeager broke the sound barrier back in 1947, and then terminating at Mojave.
	Now, why is any of this important?
	Because what we want to do, Kerry, is we want to zoom in.
	In Palmdale.
	That's what we want to talk about here.
	That gets us to September 6, 1983, LA Times.
	Set for a new boom cycle, aerospace diversity should cushion Citi from eventual bust.
	This whole article was about the military-industrial complex, Antelope Valley, Air Force Plant 42.
	I'm going to go to the next slide here, and this shows you the defense contractors that are associated with Air Force Plant 42, which is absolutely ground zero for classified programs, black budget programs.
	The Northrop B-2 stealth bomber was rolled out here November 22, 1988.
	More recently, the B-21 Raider was rolled out at the exact same Northrop facility that the B-2 was rolled out years before.
	Now, so we've got Lockheed Martin, Primary defense contractor, we've got Northrop Grumman, we've got Boeing.
	They all have laboratories here, they all have facilities.
	And is this an area that you took me that one time?
	Absolutely correct.
	Okay, so great area.
	Yeah, everything is back to back there.
	Yep, yep.
	So previous contractors at Plant 42 used to be McDonnell Douglas, now Boeing, and Rockwell International, which builds the B-1 bomber, And also the space shuttle.
	So that's kind of what we're talking about here.
	This is the place to go here.
	Now, I'm going to go to the next one.
	Here's the map of Air Force Plant 42.
	Again, Ground Zero for the Military-Industrial Complex.
	Now, I want to go to the next slide that gives you an overview.
	Yes, Kerry, this is where we drive around here, okay?
	So wait, I want to ask a question.
	Are you saying when you say Ground Zero, is this also where they're taking crash retrievals?
	That's a very good question.
	That's a very good question.
	You're not quite saying that because I thought they go to Edwards, they go to, you know, or where do they go?
	Primarily speaking, Air Force Plant 42 is for the manufacture of classified aircraft programs, and it's also for unclassified things like F-22.
	Things are going on here.
	They've got some F-35, although they're built over in Fort Worth area, but What we're dealing with here is final assembly for black programs.
	For example, the B-2 Stealth Bomber final assembly was at Air Force Plant 42.
	So, primarily that's what's done here.
	Now, it's not... Okay, but black projects are based on a lot of reversed engineered technology, right?
	So, it makes sense.
	Technically, we can't rule out that they're bringing things here.
	They're probably underground, right?
	There's got to be a huge base underground.
	Technically, we can't rule out that they're bringing things here.
	However, a more appropriate location would be Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Dayton, Ohio, because two reasons.
	Number one, they have the aeromedical lab there, so they can analyze the pathology reports from ET corpses that are brought in.
	Number two, they have the foreign technology division there, where they can test the tensile strength of the materials from the retrieved UFOs.
	So, it's a better location for Where they're taking the crash retrievals.
	Okay, but this could be old information.
	I gotta say that, you know, my investigative sort of skills come up and I would say that by this time you're not going to fly across the United States to get the information you need.
	You're going to have it right then and there.
	The other thing is the Pacific Southwest, right, is a very hot spot for crashes.
	So, just saying.
	Well, I can't rule it out.
	And it makes sense that they would bring something here.
	I do have a report from a gentleman that I interviewed 20 years ago, and that he said that he was responsible for towing a B-52 In an underground tunnel from Air Force Plant 42 to Edwards North Base Complex.
	This is a B-52.
	So you can see the size of this thing.
	Now what I'm trying to point out here is Blackbird Air Park at the bottom center of this map.
	That's where we went, Carrie, and then we drove around this whole place.
	Okay, we'll go to the next one here.
	So this is Lockheed Advanced Development Company Plant 10.
	That's what we want to focus in on here.
	I got this from the Palmdale Library.
	And here you can see the layout.
	So this is Lockheed Advanced Development Center, Plant 10.
	If you look off to the left of this top view building layout, you'll see building number 601.
	That's the building that we want to focus in on here.
	Building number 601.
	Here is the blow-up of Plant 10, Building 601.
	And this is an aerial photograph looking down.
	Now, off to the left you see Sierra Highway.
	That's the highway that you can drive right by, and you can see this absolutely massive hangar.
	This is where the magic takes place here, and this is what you see.
	You've seen this many times, Kerry, as you drive by.
	You can see this from the road.
	What we're concerned with is this exact hangar, but on the other side of the hangar.
	On the other side of the hangar.
	Now, what does any of this mean?
	Okay, we want to look inside this hangar prior to 94-95 timeframe.
	Lockheed Skunk Works used to be located in Burbank, California.
	That's right, that's right.
	Now, later on, they moved the entire operation to Palmdale.
	And where they moved it to was this hangar right here, the hangar I just showed you.
	This is the interior of that hangar.
	It used to be the assembly hangar for the L-1011.
	So, what I'm trying to point out here is that there is classified programs going on within this hangar for final assembly.
	And how do we know this?
	How can we prove this?
	This is where Mark comes in.
	Okay.
	I'll take you to this slide.
	What Mark said is that he was in an air show and he interviewed a gentleman who worked at the Northrop plant where they rolled out the B-2.
	This is back in 1992.
	This gentleman said it happened in 1992.
	Now, it was at night And there was some smog from downtown LA.
	It was a little bit backlit from the Antelope Valley, and so you could have a little bit of visibility.
	He was taking a smoke break, and he said that the hangar door opened up, the hangar I just showed you on the far side, and what they had done is they had a whole bunch of these boom lifts that came out of this hangar, and they were all in a circle.
	They extended up their booms, and at the top of each boom, they had a tarp connected to the top.
	So there was a connection, and then there was a little bit of a sag, and then there was another connection, and they formed this perimeter screen.
	A gentleman walks out of this hangar.
	He shines a flashlight up, three flashlight beams, and then all of a sudden, about a 120-foot diameter black contact lens, according to Mark, Up here, came down, all these boom lifts kind of like covered up the craft, and then the whole thing trundled back into the hangar.
	This is according to this gentleman that Mark interviewed.
	So I thought, I would love to see what this looks like.
	Now, Mark never drew a drawing of this.
	He never did, but he described it to me.
	I've worked with Rudy over almost a month to get this done, and Kerry, I'm going to show it to you right now, and this is what we came up with.
	This is according to the gentleman who worked at Miller.
	Now, two weeks later, he was rewarded.
	He was out for another smoke break, and he was rewarded for his persistence.
	He saw the entire operation repeat in reverse.
	So now, what happened, instead of coming down, The whole thing trundles out of the hangar, all of the boom lifts lift up, the perimeter screens are in place, this black contact lens levitates off and then takes off at a very high rate of speed and was gone throughout the whole antelope valley in about two seconds and there was no sonic boom.
	This is back in 92 timeframe.
	Isn't that amazing?
	So this is one of ours you're saying, right?
	This is one of ours.
	And this is, you're calling it a contact lens.
	That's how it looks.
	But that is, you know, what everyone would think of if they saw it in the sky, a UFO, right?
	Correct.
	Correct.
	So, but it is one of ours.
	So that's for people watching this that aren't quite familiar with the whole crash retrieval and reverse engineering of technology.
	Look at that.
	So that is, that's your reverse engineered, I would say, UFO.
	Well, what I'm pointing out here is that we, in point of fact, do have the technology.
	There are people who are skeptical... At this point in time... I understand they're skeptical, but when you look at the newspaper clippings... No, we have had it since probably the days of Roswell, for that matter.
	It goes back a long ways.
	I mean, it's very clear that they've made the breakthrough, and what you see at your local air show is merely a pale reflection of the technology that we really have.
	That's the bottom line.
	Okay, so in a nutshell, that's this case that I got from Mark.
	Now, let's continue on here.
	This is another case.
	This is USS Nimitz 1991 that has a history of these sightings.
	Now, according to this gentleman right here, Kevin Thomas, He was a U.S.
	Navy combat photographer during the time frame.
	They have something called carry darkened ship.
	When they go to darken ship, they turn off all the internal lights, all the external lights.
	You're not supposed to be caught outside at all.
	Well, unfortunately, this guy, when he tried to enter the aircraft carrier, one of the bulkhead doors, he was locked out.
	So he was stuck outside when he wasn't supposed to be.
	And so what he saw, this is according to Kevin Thomas here, he said that he saw, this is at night, a very large black triangle emerge from the ocean.
	There was no water dripping.
	It was completely silent.
	And he said it hovered at about 200 yards off the starboard bow of the aircraft carrier, which is on the right-hand side, sat there for a few minutes, and then departed at a very high rate of speed.
	So this is 1991 timeframe.
	So I thought, okay, This craft was larger than the Nimitz.
	We're talking about... Isn't that incredible?
	Yeah, yes.
	So this is another case where the Navy... This is no tic-tac, okay?
	No, this is not a tic-tac.
	So I thought, we've got to do a drawing of this, Carrie, so that we can get a sight picture of what we're looking at here, according to what Kevin Thomas said that he saw, and here's what we came up with.
	Something like That's insane.
	I've got the length here, this is down to the foot, this is 1092 feet in length, 200 yards off the starboard side of the ship, and so he said it was larger than the aircraft carrier, so I'm thinking this is probably 1200 feet in length total.
	Wow.
	That's incredible.
	The fact that they went to dark and ship indicates that they had foreknowledge.
	There was an intent behind it.
	There was some kind of communication going on.
	So, we don't know, however, if this is ours or theirs.
	Correct?
	I can't tell you from what he said, no.
	It was a short interview and I just wanted to know like this because I felt it was important.
	Well, I'm sure he's not at liberty to say, you know.
	No, I don't think he knows if it was one of ours or theirs.
	Right.
	So that's amazing.
	Very cool.
	Okay, so let's continue on to the next case here.
	Now this is a case I've talked about before, but I want to bring it up again because I've got a new illustration here.
	So this is Wright-Patterson Air Force Base 1962.
	This is all part of the Leonard Springfield crash retrieval cases.
	This is page 88 in Leonard's book.
	This was seen by five transient pilots that are part of the 354th Tactical Air Command Fighter Wing.
	And what they were doing, Kerry, is they were running down the row of hangars at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
	They were looking for A fourth wall to complete this handball court that they were doing because the air commander, he was in charge of their physical fitness.
	So they wanted to continue playing their racquetball handball court.
	So they're running down this row of hangers.
	One of these hangar doors was open up.
	They run inside and what did they see?
	They see this 15-foot-diameter V-shaped craft propped up on engine test stands, according to the primary eyewitness.
	Now, there was also a series of ropes wrapped around the outer circumference, and there were MPs with rifles guarding this.
	And this guy had shot up one tree that he was seeing.
	I'm going to go over the next slide here.
	This gives you a more, slightly more accurate version of what this thing actually looked like.
	And I read the testimony from the primary eyewitness over and over again and carried I think this is something we can bank on.
	The level of credibility of these fighter pilots is very high, and I want to take you to what he said here.
	I'm going to go to his statement.
	It says, the guard challenged by saying, I don't think you're supposed to be in here, sir.
	I replied to the affirmative, and we turned about face and departed, mumbling to ourselves that the good old U.S.
	had developed To me, Carrie, that sounds like a legitimate, honest statement.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, that picture is amazing.
	So, again, go back and say the year, because I really want to sort of emphasize in people's minds.
	1962 at Wright Patterson Air Force Base.
	Yeah, so this is what we're talking about, okay?
	Where do you think we are now?
	Yes, of course.
	Whether it's ours or theirs is sort of immaterial.
	The point being is that the crash retrievals and the reverse engineering is really off the scales, and this gets into all kinds of areas.
	You know, moves into my work where I can do analysis on what we're actually doing, why we're actually doing certain things.
	Like right now, this disclosure that with Luis Elizondo, who is arguably, if you read his book, I'm already partway through his book, he is a member of the deep If you want to call it the deep state military industrial complex, he has worked for them probably his whole life.
	He's a highly trusted member.
	So he's not a rebel.
	He may be a rebel in his own right, but not a rebel from the system.
	Okay, understand.
	He's not like me and Michael.
	We're doing this against all odds.
	Lou Elizondo is fully supported by the people behind him.
	So, and those people are part of what we call the Secret Space Program, and what they have, and what they've had access to, and what they've disclosed to the public are miles apart.
	Miles.
	So, continue, Michael.
	Okay, no problem.
	We'll continue on here.
	All right, so I also want to highlight The book, Magic Eyes Only, by Ryan Wood.
	He's a good friend of mine.
	This is an updated version of the same publication that was published about 10 years ago, where he has basically an additional 104 crash or treatable cases.
	If you link that up with the Stringfield cases, which is 119 within his seven status reports, and we take away hoaxers, liars, things that did turn out to be true, Conservatively, we're looking at 200 crush retrieval cases.
	All we need, Carrie, is one of these to be accurate.
	That's all we need.
	Yeah.
	Really, the odds are in our favor here.
	They're in our favor.
	So, just wanted to highlight Ryan's book here.
	Okay, that's wonderful.
	Could you please get in touch with him and tell him I'd like to interview him on his book?
	Okay.
	No problem.
	And I knew him in the past.
	I don't know if I have his updated information.
	No problem.
	No problem.
	I went through this book with a fine-tooth comb trying to decipher, can we get some nuggets out of this thing?
	Can we get a couple of drawings out of this thing?
	Because this doesn't have any drawings.
	So I thought, yep.
	I picked two cases that I want to consider here.
	The first one Santa Rosa, New Mexico, Spring 1963.
	This is page 217 in the book.
	Now, this has to do with an x-ray technician.
	She was not a medical nurse.
	She was not a registered nurse, but she was an x-ray technician.
	A call came into the hospital that there was some type of crash nearby in the city.
	So, she gets into the ambulance.
	with the driver, and they go across town.
	What they went in is a 1963 Ford Galaxy Ambulance.
	So they pile into this thing, they get over there, this is about a 15-minute drive across town.
	When they arrive, this is all according to Ryan's book here, when they arrive she said that she saw three dead corpses.
	Her first statement was, quote, where are their parents?
	Because that's how they look.
	They look like small children.
	There was some wreckage off to the side.
	There were two squad cars with police officers.
	And her original statement is, where are their parents?
	Because she couldn't believe what was going on here.
	Now, eventually they took Two of the bodies on gurneys loaded them into the back of the ambulance.
	The other one they picked up by hand and loaded him.
	So all three went into the back of the ambulance.
	They drove that back to the hospital.
	They took x-rays.
	They were in the process of developing these x-rays.
	I'm going to go to the next slide here, and I'm going to just go over what was said.
	This is all according to the book that Ryan published.
	Within an hour of arriving at the hospital, the United States Air Force arrived and ordered all three bodies to be removed.
	They also confiscated all paperwork, notes, graphs, charts, and even undeveloped x-rays.
	Here's what this colonel said to this technician.
	This did not happen.
	You are never to speak about this and remember this.
	The government has a long arm.
	So, Carrie, they took everything.
	The bodies, anything from the ambulance, all the charts, records, x-rays, everything.
	They got it all.
	Now, do we know where it went?
	We don't know where it went, no.
	Okay.
	No, we do not know where it went.
	And the year of this again was?
	Yep, got it right back here.
	This is spring 1963, Santa Rosa, New Mexico.
	Okay.
	And when you look at this body of evidence as a united coalition of first-hand military witnesses, we're talking about people who have impeccable credentials, Kerry, you just can't discount all these cases.
	These people are not lying to us.
	Many of these people are dying of cancer.
	Basically, they said, you know, what can the government do to me once I'm in my grave?
	And they just let it all out.
	That's what's been going on here.
	These whistleblowers have been coming forward.
	We can't discount all of them.
	Now I want to move on to the next case here.
	Cherry Creek, Nevada.
	This is summer 1964, page 243 in the book.
	There's not much going on here, Kerry, you can see.
	I mean, there's not much going on in this town here, but this is according to Ryan's book.
	Population back in 2012 was only 72 people, so it's a remote place.
	There's not much to go here, but just showing you where this all went down.
	And this has to do with the Eli Rout, Nevada Northern Railroad Company.
	And what you can see here is one of these copper ore cars.
	And so the sight picture is, you've got this copper ore train going across this bend right next to a big mountain range.
	I'm going to go to the next slide here, and this is what was reported in Ryan's book.
	A large disc-shaped craft came screaming by.
	It kind of augered in at a glancing angle, and in the report it said that it twisted in All the railroad tracks were torn up.
	They were mangled.
	They were twisted.
	This thing flipped over, inverted.
	There was a hull breach on the side of the craft.
	There were two ET bodies that appeared to be dead.
	There was another one with Tracks coming from the craft.
	So he probably lived a little bit longer and then he passed away.
	But here's how it went down.
	The military ordered all people on the train to board a truck and were driven back to ELAB because the military got involved in this.
	The military examined the craft and found the bodies of at least two little pilots.
	And this is by Ruth Jardine.
	I wanted to highlight this case as well.
	This is what I wanted to present today here.
	Okay, now is this to scale like the size of the train versus the craft itself?
	Well, it didn't give a scale of the craft itself.
	So we had to come up with something.
	Now, there were three women on horseback that saw all this.
	And then when this train came by the bend, they took off on horseback.
	And then later on, the military got involved.
	So in a nutshell, that's this case.
	And so what I'm pointing out here is that the body count goes up, the crash Debris goes up, the craft goes up, and by now they must have dozens of these craft.
	Oh, yeah.
	In different locations.
	Right.
	Absolutely.
	And plus, well, they handle the whole world.
	That's known.
	That's correct.
	Although, maybe, arguably, not China.
	Because what they do is our military goes in and pays and basically buys the crash and takes it over.
	Or they take the price of force.
	Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
	Well, I think they're buying it and they're taking it.
	I mean, it's a process that they've been doing forever.
	So the United States military is actually basically taking complete control of the UFO, ET, Subject, story, and so on.
	So, okay, go ahead.
	You got something else?
	Now, to wrap this case up, what eventually happened is they brought in a steam crane, a wrecking crane from Eli, picked up the craft, and then it was moved out.
	And this is the exact crane that was used.
	to bring this craft back.
	Next one here, Great Lakes Naval Training Center, September 1973.
	This is another case that I've talked about before, but I wanted to update it because we've got a new illustration.
	This is page 89 in the book, case A-7, and the primary eyewitness was a gunnery school instructor.
	And he was told to deliver a very important message to one of the high-level military brass over at Great Lakes.
	And so he gets there, he goes down this corridor, he makes a left-hand turn, there is this large area there within this Quonset-style hut, and what he sees is about a 30-foot diameter, well not diameter, but more of a stretched teardrop-shaped USO, about 12 feet high, There was a blue coronal discharge along the leading edge of the craft itself.
	I'm going to go to the next slide here.
	This gives you an idea of what this craft actually looks like.
	He's seeing this.
	He delivers the letter.
	He turns around.
	He's walking out.
	He gets a real good look at this.
	And I'm going to go to Rudy's drawing that gives you an idea of what this craft actually looks like.
	It was sitting on not a wooden pedestal, but more of a central column.
	And that's the correction I want to make here.
	It wasn't really a platform, but more of a pedestal.
	I'm going to go to the next full color rendering.
	Now you can kind of see what this whole thing had a blue coral discharge around it.
	And what's interesting is, if we go to the next slide here, two weeks prior to this actually happening, The original witness was at a bar.
	He was talking to a gentleman who was on a destroyer and this gentleman told our primary witness that he was on this missile destroyer and they had shot down a UFO Off the coast of Hawaii, and then they brought it back to the mainland.
	And so we had independent confirmation from two separate sources about this craft.
	So I want to go on to the next one.
	He also said, this is the primary eyewitness, that they used Howard Hughes' Glomar Explorer to recover the craft from the bottom of the ocean.
	So not only did it recover a Russian submarine, but it was also to recover USO's from the bottom of the ocean.
	So my question Kerry is, what other things has this thing pulled off from the bottom of the ocean?
	What other things did we not know about?
	Yeah, because Mark Richards has mentioned that to me.
	So he obviously, he didn't explain.
	But I, you know, things stay in my brain.
	So I thought, okay, he's saying something's going on with this.
	Pay attention.
	So I always keep in my brain.
	So now you're beginning to open that up a little bit.
	I'll have to I'll have to run that by him.
	Yeah, but you can see how all these things are connected in one way.
	There's always some connection.
	So this is San Francisco Examiner, March 19, 1975.
	How CIA Divers Retrieve Russian Secrets.
	So, you know, under the guise of This retrieving a Russian submarine, something else was going on here.
	They were using this to recover other things as well.
	Here is the book, A Matter of Risk, the incredible inside story of the CIA's Glomar Explorer mission to raise a Russian submarine.
	So 1973 to 1974, this is when this thing was recovering.
	And you can see this Clementine device, Project Jennifer, came down, picked up the Russian submarine.
	As it was lifting it, one of these grappling arms broke off Portions of the submarine sank back into the bottom of the ocean, and they never were true, to our knowledge, the rest of the craft itself.
	Bodies were recovered, and they had a funeral at sea for the Russian sailors.
	So, what I want to point out here is, according to our original source, The missile destroyer gentleman, he drew a picture of what was recovered and it was the exact same thing that R.K.
	said he saw at Great Lakes Naval Training Center back in the 1970s.
	So again, we had independent confirmation from two sources that they did recover this craft.
	Okay, I'd like to read that book.
	I wonder if it's available.
	Oh, it's available.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Yep, you can get it.
	So Kerry, that's what I wanted to cover with you today.
	Yes.
	Well, those are great cases.
	Thank you.
	So, do you want to talk about what you've covered so far?
	Like, how many crash retrievals have you actually done on YouTube?
	Everything that I felt was historically significant within the UFO crash retrieval cases that Leonard Stringfield had dug out over a 30-year period.
	Every one of them that I felt Justified a drawing.
	I've already covered it on my YouTube channel.
	So I literally left no stone unturned.
	That's why when I switched over to Ryan's book, I wanted to see if I could get a couple more out of it.
	And I found those two that I thought justified a drawing.
	And so really, I feel I've exhausted everything I can out of Leonard's book.
	How many?
	Well, 119 crash retrieval cases within his book, and then another 104 in Ryan's book.
	And there could be some overlapping here.
	There's probably some hoaxes in here.
	There's probably things that weren't untrue.
	So even if we cut the whole thing in half and say just 100, even that number is huge.
	Conservatively speaking, even 75 would be a fantastic number.
	All we need is one to be correct.
	For sure, but where do you go from here?
	That's the question.
	Well, that's the $65 million question.
	What we need now, Kerry, is a piece of physical evidence that could lead to congressional hearings.
	Because if we leave it up to the government, we've already tried this democratic process toward disclosure, and you can see what they've done is they've failed us with the democratic process.
	We've already had 80 years for them to come forward with it.
	They have not done it.
	So what they're going to do now is they're going to continue to kick the can down the road and we're never going to get there.
	So it's up to us now to track down these remaining legacy witnesses that could bring us to their bosses and then the craft debris and bodies.
	Right, okay.
	But these are the ones that are, I don't know how to say, would it be in the public domain?
	Because Leonard Stringfield was in the public domain, right?
	Well, it's in the public domain, but The problem here is that the agreement that Leonard made with his witnesses is that their names would be kept under wraps.
	But they could tell the story, but the source names had to be kept under wraps.
	So we don't have any way to track these people down because we don't know their names.
	That's the agreement that Leonard made, and that's what we have to work with right now.
	Now, I've got some of the names.
	Mufon has some of the names, but we don't have all the names.
	Somewhere out there, there's 22 bank boxes of original letters, correspondence, names, addresses, phone numbers.
	I was told that that information was thrown out.
	I was personally told by a family member that whatever Leonard wanted published, he had published, and the rest of it was thrown out.
	I don't know if that's true.
	Maybe he was lying to me.
	It could be.
	It's a possibility.
	Or what's more likely, it was given to the government.
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	A six-figure sum was offered for the material and they turned it down.
	So, okay, so that's one set of files, but if you go into the fact that there are going to be files in all sorts of places, I mean, you're not even talking about some of the most well-known ufologists that we know of out there, some of whom were definitely involved in some of this, like Clifford Stone, for example, right?
	Sure, sure.
	So, David Marler is collecting a tremendous amount of information as well.
	So, I want to highlight his work.
	He's getting collections from all around the world and they're going to Albuquerque, New Mexico.
	He's set up a new organization.
	All the files are going to go into that facility.
	That's going to happen within the next two months or so.
	So, there's definitely going to be things in there.
	However, I still think that Leonard Had the most credible witnesses with the most information because he tracked these people down.
	They came to him because he was a reliable person.
	He would not release the names of his sources.
	Well, I, you know, so, but there's some other places, you know, some of these locations like Lockheed Skunk Works, like Wright Patterson, they have files, right?
	And warehouses, they could have warehouses full of stuff, right?
	Because we have, we had a witness, you know, way back when that was an archivist.
	He was hired to do an archival job.
	He was in a vault.
	He spent his days, it was a volunteer position within an aerospace company, and he was given piles and piles of material that had been sitting around, I think it was Rockwell, and that was in California, and he was under armed guard.
	The whole time he was doing it.
	So he was a whistleblower.
	We called him Mr. X, I think.
	I remember that interview.
	Yeah, so that was a very early days of Camelot.
	So that's just one example of an aerospace company that had files, they had videotapes, they had all kinds of memorabilia, they had photographs.
	And this was many years ago.
	So at least 20 years ago, maybe 40.
	So if you take just that one situation in a certain span of time, and then you go through all the years that have gone by, which is it's actually more than 80, you have to go from the time of Truman, right?
	1930s.
	Until now, as far as I'm concerned.
	Because in 1930, or I don't know the exact year, he created MJ-12 to handle the ET situation.
	So you know that they were already having crash retrievals, they were already interacting with alien races then.
	So what is that 70?
	Plus, you know, this is the 20.
	So that's like 90.
	That's more like 94 years.
	Well, the problem we're running into Kerry is that senators and congressmen do not have They need to know with this information, and they don't have the appropriate security clearances to get this information.
	So how can they declassify something that they're not cleared for?
	And that's what we're running up against here.
	We're not going to get to it as the general public.
	If we can't get to it, and senators and congressmen, they can't get to it, how are we ever going to have disclosure?
	How are they going to get access to this material?
	Well, if you go back to the day after Roswell, Colonel Corso, and he actually documents much more openly in that book than probably anything since then about the different Technologies and things that he they were coming across and getting from crashed UFOs back then.
	Okay, that became our computer systems, et cetera, et cetera.
	So we're talking about.
	You know, how it's been kept secret.
	It's also what we call unacknowledged special access programs where they take just where a person like Corso, who's obviously died since then.
	And he was working in the 60s.
	So they take the information and they give it to these aerospace companies, okay?
	And they go into black projects like Xkunk Works and other places, right?
	Lockheed Martin, you name it, right?
	So this is where the secrecy, it's a trail of secrecy and it goes, actually it goes around the world.
	But it definitely is, sorry my dog is having a dream in the background here.
	It actually, this is unearthing this trail and following the trail and you're doing an amazing job.
	Thank you, Kerry.
	However, this has got to go somewhere here, though.
	We can't keep presenting this stuff and it not going.
	It has to get some traction here, because if it doesn't, we're all going to be here another 50 years and still not know.
	So what this has to lead to is it has to lead to physical evidence.
	We don't need any more cases anymore.
	We don't need any more CE1 cases.
	What we need now is the actual hardware.
	Anything less than that and we're just spinning our wheels.
	We need the actual hardware now.
	That's the point we're at right now.
	Okay.
	Let's see.
	There is something coming in here.
	I just want to... I'm not sure it's the...
	I don't know if let me see if I can share this screen here briefly.
	I don't know if you're aware of this.
	And we can do another case if you're free.
	Oh, great.
	Yeah, I'd like to hold on 1 2nd.
	Okay, what is this?
	Do you know about this case?
	I don't see anything right now, because I have to stop sharing.
	All right, so see if you can, because I'm sharing, I think.
	Okay, do you want me to finish up this last group here, and then we can go to your thing?
	Oh, all right.
	Yeah, we can hold it, or you can just, you know, it's easy enough to go back to wherever you are.
	I'm going to finish up where I am right now here.
	All right.
	I want to go over one more case here.
	According to my computer, the audience is seeing and they're going to know what I'm talking about.
	It's an interesting case.
	And there's, so what happens is, let me just say this.
	Yeah, there's a cover story for every crash retrieval.
	I agree with that.
	Yes.
	And so they're going to be misleading the public as to what happened and whether there was any craft involved, whether there were any bodies involved, et cetera, et cetera.
	So it's important to realize there's a cover up.
	And, you know, just like the shooting of Trump, there's a cover up in, you know, There were plans involved, so just to keep that in mind.
	Okay, go ahead.
	Okay, so what you're looking at here is a screenshot of Jonathan Weygandt.
	Original witness.
	The interview was conducted 9-5-23.
	Dr. Greer interviewed him back in 2000, so I want to give credit there.
	Now, point being is that this gentleman has a very interesting story to tell.
	I looked at the interview at great length, and I took notes.
	I reviewed this with Rudy, and I thought, let's see if we can draw this case out.
	Let's see if we can put ourselves in the scene as though we're actually there.
	Again, this is Jonathan Weygand, and what he states is that during April 1997, He was brought to the Bolivian jungle.
	There were two other people with him.
	They went inside in Humvee, about a half a mile into the jungle, and they were told to investigate an unknown crash.
	When they got there, what they saw was an egg-shaped craft augured into a granite cliff at a 45 degree angle.
	The whole thing was tipped up at a 45 degree angle.
	Now, he said that there were a number of hull breaches on the bottom side of the craft There was what looked like shark gills.
	There was a ridge that went around the outer circumference of the craft itself.
	This thing is about 65 feet long, 45 feet high.
	He said that there was what looked like an ET arm sticking out of the craft and then through these hull breaches there was this oily rainbow colored clear fluid liquid coming out of this craft that actually got on his arm.
	It attacked his skin, some of his clothes were damaged.
	Very interesting case.
	So, if you look on the lower left here, you can see the two other people that he was with.
	Now, if we take everything we've got from the primary eyewitness, we hook that up with Rudy's drawing.
	I want to go the full color rendering.
	This is what we came up with for the video, as though we were there back in April 1997.
	That's amazing.
	Wow.
	So bottom line is, yeah, they've got the craft, they've got the bodies, and they are reverse engineering not only the propulsion system, the energy system, but all the weapons system advancement too.
	And who knows where they are at this point.
	Years down the line now doing this.
	Wow.
	Yeah, it's beautiful.
	So I'll stop sharing now, Carrie, and you can certainly present whatever you want to present here.
	Oh, um, well, I wanted to get your opinion of it, actually.
	I'm, you know, I don't, there's a couple things coming through.
	Somebody just sent this while we're on the show right now, uh, to me.
	Yacht, I think it might be the yacht that, that went.
	I've heard about that story, yes.
	Okay, and there was a funnel of, some kind of funnel, so it showed, the picture showed the funnel.
	Water spout, a water spout.
	Yeah, that, that is, A sort of anomalous situation, and we don't know whether there was a, you know, in other words, I don't know who owned the yacht.
	I don't know the details.
	I know that they know who who owned the yacht, but the what you might be looking at is.
	Just saying, the White Hats having attacked a yacht that might have been trying to transport weapons or other things that are illegal, and it belonged to a very wealthy person, that much I think is out there that, you know, the yacht is obviously a very wealthy yacht, but that how it sunk was quite interesting and maybe even unusual.
	If it's possible that, you know, we have under Seacraft that if a craft came up, the waterspout could have actually dislodged it and caused it to go down.
	We don't know.
	I'm just throwing that out as a possibility.
	Somebody did send that to me who I guess is watching our show.
	Okay.
	So, sorry that I wasn't able to get that in.
	I'm going to remove all that ad stuff when I put this on Rumble.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So, anything else you want to say at this time?
	It's a very, very important time because of this book that they are allowing Lou Elizondo, somebody who's quite knowledgeable at this point, and I can say he was meeting with people like Hal Pudov, you know, he was involved with Robert
	Bigelow and Harry Reid, you know, these are the usual suspects that are also involved in the Northern California, what do they call that, Skinwalker Ranch.
	And so there's all kinds of stuff going on with all of this.
	And I think it's so important that we investigate these Very anomalous in some cases, sometimes they're really well, you know, they already know they totally know and whatever happened to a lot of the witnesses that were involved, even some behind the scene.
	at the UAP hearing a year ago, right?
	So some of those people reported their stories to Greer.
	Supposedly he held a press conference of some kind in June, right?
	Is that correct?
	Did you attend that?
	Well, the people that were on the congressional hearings are not the same people that were on the June conference at the national press conference.
	It's a different group of people.
	Okay, but I'm talking about the witnesses.
	So were any of the witnesses the same?
	No, not the David Grush witnesses.
	No, none of those.
	Really?
	Okay.
	Well, because there was one in particular that I talked to who was first going to do an interview with me, and then somebody got him to change his mind.
	So I think he did testify to Greer, but I could be mistaken.
	Michael, I think his first name is Michael.
	So you don't know who I'm talking about.
	All right.
	All right.
	Anything else that you want to report in terms of the, you know, the sort of scene out there and where this latest.
	Foray might go because it could affect the playing field to some degree.
	There's a lot of hullabaloo happening.
	There's this, I think he's called Cuthbert, a journalist who is, I think he's Australian, but he's going to do a big, it's not a press conference, but an interview with Lewis Elizondo on Friday.
	So what's today?
	Wednesday.
	For some reason, they had it delayed by a couple days, even though the book came out on Tuesday.
	So yeah, so just saying that this is a kind of disclosure.
	You can't ignore that.
	It is supporting the work we have been doing for the last 20 years or whatever it is, right?
	One thing I will say before we wrap up here is that I'm working on a case with Danny Sheehan, which I felt is very historically significant.
	You may know about this, some of your listeners might know about this.
	To set the scene, it's 1977.
	Danny Sheehan goes to the Library of Congress in Washington, D.C.
	He goes into a place called the Madison Room within the Library of Congress, and he was given one-time only access to classified libraries that came from outside.
	They were brought into the Madison Room, this is at a lower basement in the Library of Congress, and he walks in, he's checked by security, he has a notepad with him, he goes over to the microfiche reader, he's going through the microfiche and he's scanning through the files, and there's a couple of pictures carried of a UFO crash retrieval.
	I don't know the date, but the scene is about a 30-foot, and this is all by Danny Sheen.
	He's talked about this on many interviews.
	It's about a 30-foot diameter disk-shaped craft that augured in during the wintertime because there was snow out there.
	It was about 30 feet in diameter at a 30-foot angle.
	There was a low-rise dome on top, so it's pitched up at a 30-degree angle.
	Along the bottom section of the upper dome are a series of hieroglyphic type lettering wrapped around the outer circumference now when this thing left this kind of trail of I wouldn't call it mud and dirt but it did leave a trail and then when it tipped up there was a little bit of a berm here now off to the left There were four people in parkas.
	He said that he could see this in the photograph.
	He also said that it was clear enough to see, you know, that furry fringe on the parkas when you have this winter jacket on.
	They always have this fur that lines the top of the hood.
	That's exactly what all these guys were wearing.
	Now, at least two people We're taking photographs of this thing with still motion, well still cameras.
	There was another one off to the left.
	He had a motion picture film camera over his shoulder with those two reels on it.
	He said that.
	So I'm thinking we're talking he saw it in 77 obviously it was prior to so this could be 19 early 1960s to late 1940s time frame that's what I'm guessing so that's the sight picture of what Danny Sheehan said that he saw in this photograph now what's interesting is when he's looking at all this
	He paged through his notebook, and he put all the pages to one side, which left him kind of like this cardboard backing, like the back side of this whole thing.
	He projected the image of the crash retrieval onto this notepad, and he traced the outline of the scene on his notepad.
	But this is at the bottom.
	So when he left the facility, he was checked by the security guard, and as he was walking, the security guy said, hey, what's that?
	So he had to walk back, and he had to hand this notepad to the security guard, and this guy's paging through all these pages.
	He didn't get to the last part, so Danny was able to walk out with this whole thing, and so I met with him and Rudy about a month ago now.
	We got all the details of the case, and we're going to be finished with the drawing today, and that's the current stats.
	So this is based off a real-time UFO crash retrieval case.
	Okay, so you're going to be finished today, did you say?
	Yes, we will be done today.
	And are you going to be able to show it soon?
	I don't know, maybe I will, I don't know.
	Okay, I'm sure my audience is going to be very curious.
	So, yeah, that's great.
	Well, you know, one thing that this does, this book, the release of Imminent, it's called by Lewis Elizondo is opens up the conversation again in such a way that a lot of people who have these stories could come forward and especially if they have any documentation like photographs and so on that that's where people are really looking at.
	I can say that I've held the actual I think it's it's it's one of the crash retrievals material in my hand.
	So, and that came from from 1 of our witnesses, whose name is.
	I gave you his material, his information, to contact him.
	I can't remember whether he's even still alive.
	I don't know.
	But at one point, I interviewed somebody in person, and I have the information on my website.
	His name is escaping me at this exact moment.
	I think it starts with a C. Chuck.
	Chuck Wade.
	I think it's Chuck Wade.
	Chuck.
	Anyway.
	And I held, he had collected the debris from one of the crash retrievals.
	I don't think, it wasn't Roswell, but it was in that, you know, that south area.
	And one of the, sort of probably after that, Aztec.
	There are various ones as you know.
	So he had these little pieces and they're the kind of thing where you've heard about it.
	It looks almost like aluminum foil.
	It gets you crush it.
	They couldn't do anything to it.
	So they crushed it.
	They tried to hammer it.
	They tried to do all that they used to drill on it and nothing would work.
	So I held one of those little pieces in my hand And I have to say that it had a heat signature in it naturally.
	And I'm a sort of psychic, earth sensitive.
	So I can go up and I can feel a vortex, for example.
	So I have very sensitive hands.
	So I know that that material is real.
	I know that I held it and that it was actually exuding an energy field of a sort that was warm to my hand.
	So, for what it's worth, and yeah, I believe the witness is Camelot, you can go on my website, look up Chuck Wade and he, I think we had it in the room, I think we might have photographed some of the materials, very just small little things, flecks or whatever you want to say.
	Of the material.
	He I think he had some other things as well, but I don't know what happened to them since then.
	So I don't know where all this is.
	There is you know, there is evidence.
	There is hard evidence.
	Of course, there is.
	You know, not just.
	Yeah.
	Witness testimonies.
	So we have hard evidence.
	And we know where it is, Perry.
	We know where it is.
	We just can't get access to it.
	Well, right, Perry Patterson.
	But there's other places.
	You know, Jackie Gleason, you know the famous story where, let's see, it wasn't Jackie, it was the reverse.
	Richard Nixon showed Jackie Gleason the bodies.
	And then that changed Jackie Gleason's life forever.
	His wife said he was never the same after that experience.
	So that's a true story from what I understand.
	I've heard it from multiple parties.
	And so, you know, there's all kinds of stories out there.
	I think this story, I think the whole Mil, you that we're entering is, at least from my point of view, and I've been doing this for so long, I guess you have too, and it's just like, I love that at least the conversation is starting to open up and more information's coming forward.
	And I hope more whistleblowers will come forward.
	And my doors always open, you know, and I think there's going to be other people that are going to want to come forward under these sort of the auspices of what appears to be more freedom of information.
	Now, whether they crack down on it, what happens after this?
	We don't know.
	Right?
	What we need, Kerry, is a united coalition of whistleblowers coming forward with one voice, not a lone wolf, a united coalition, and then we've got something to bite down on here.
	Absolutely.
	Well, this is an exciting, I think it's an exciting time.
	I think it's important, super important that we have disclosure at this time, because I do believe we are working towards It may be a fake alien invasion but eventually it's going to turn into a real one and we are going to have a basically a war with the ETs that are abducting our children and humans from the
	The surface of Earth and taking them into underground bases and in some cases killing them and it's all linked to adrenochrome and so on.
	So this is a much darker story than they that's part of the reason for the the lack of disclosure.
	They don't want to tell the public the real truth.
	I'm telling the real truth.
	I've been telling it for close to 20 years now, but you know, My audience is limited, so that's the way it goes.
	Even my colleagues don't talk about what I talk about.
	This is where it's at.
	All right, Michael, it's wonderful to have you on the show.
	I put into the chat some of your details, your website and various things.
	Can you also delineate that for my audience?
	Three things.
	Number one, certainly on Facebook.
	I have a book called Dark Files, A Pictorial History of Lost, Forgotten, and Obscure UFO Encounters.
	It's on Amazon.
	Just type in my name in Dark Files.
	It'll pop right up.
	I've got a YouTube channel.
	It's just my name, Michael Schrett.
	You can find me.
	And then I have a TikTok channel called That's Classified TV.
	So those are the four avenues that you can follow what's going on.
	Okay, now just looking at one thing I have on my website.
	You know, you can go to my website and find a lot of interviews that I've done over the years with Michael Schratt.
	Is this one of your books?
	It says, Hard Evidence of Crash Retrievals.
	Is that a title or was that an interview?
	No, that's not a title of mine.
	Okay, all right, just double check.
	Mine's called Dark Files, yeah.
	All right, okay, fine.
	Okay uh well that's it for today and thank you and we're going to try to do this on a regular basis uh assuming you have more more stuff that comes along that we can we can do that that because I want to keep information to make it to the next Ice Age Kerry.
	All right, that's good to hear.
	All right, so I want to focus on that for at least one day a week, if we can do it, or every two weeks, because I think that would be great for people.
	And I want to keep people's minds active and focused on the reality of the ET presence here on planet Earth and the crash retrievals.
	Great.
	Thank you.
	Wonderful.
	All right.
	Okay.
	You take care.
	Thanks, Carrie.
	Okay.

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