KERRY CASSIDY INTERVIEWED BY PATRIOT UNDERGROUND: WHO IS IN CONTROL OF WHAT?
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Hello, everyone, and welcome to Patriot Underground.
Today is June 11th, 2024.
Thank you so much for joining me, folks, to discover the truth beneath the surface.
As always, I really do appreciate everybody out there taking the time to listen, and today I'm really excited to have my good friend Carrie Cassidy back on the show.
It's been quite a while since we spoke, I think a couple of months anyway.
I know Carrie's been very busy, and she actually just came back from the Quantum summit in Cape Canaveral, Florida.
So we're going to touch upon that and we're going to give you guys a full update on everything that's been going on.
So Carrie, it's great to see you again.
Oh, thanks.
Yeah, it's great to be here.
I know that you're a little bit tired.
You We were just chatting.
You flew in last night a little bit jet-lagged, but never stop working.
You already cranked out a couple of articles.
So before we get to that, we're going to discuss the whole Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0 situation.
You did a Substack article.
We're going to get to that, but I figured we could grease the skids a little bit and just Talk a little bit about the Quantum Healing Summit.
I think that was what it was called.
I actually was invited by Mel Carmine as well, and unfortunately, I wasn't able to attend.
So, what were some of the highlights you shared with me that it was a successful event?
So, tell us a little bit about that.
Actually, it was a great group of people, and Mel Carmine had this sort of revolutionary idea to put financial people in the same room with You know, sort of people that follow my work, which is, you know, conspiracies and aliens and so on and so forth.
So it was a very kind of unusual group of people and a lot of very aware people down there in Cape Canaveral, Florida.
And just, you know, it was my speech.
I didn't have a speech, but I was on stage with Michael Jaco, so they had overscheduled some people or something, so I didn't get my full hour, but definitely made some waves.
That's cool.
So you were up there with Jayco.
I remember when I was talking to Mel, I don't think Jayco was on the list.
And I think some people were supposed to be there, like SG Anon and maybe a couple others that didn't end up at the actual event.
But then you had people who stepped in, like Jayco.
And of course, I think, excuse me, I heard Juan was also there.
Did you get a chance to?
No, he wasn't.
Oh, he wasn't?
Okay.
He didn't show, but I think he had some other thing come up.
Lloyd Brunson was there, but at the very end.
So Juan and Lloyd were supposed to be on stage together, I think was how it was originally scheduled, but it didn't happen, so yeah.
Gotcha.
All right.
Well, you said it was a really successful event.
I'm curious, how did you feel when you were in there?
Did you feel the scalar waves?
I mean, could you get a sense for that?
Because that was one of the things I was really curious about.
Oh, you mean the, I don't know in the name of it, but the healing technology that was there?
I didn't have anything to do with that.
So, I think maybe it helped the room in terms of not being as, you know, usually when you go to conferences, they beam you with, you know, EMF waves and all kinds of craziness.
So usually, a lot of times, if I go to a conference, even my own, I feel sort of sick after a while.
I felt fine there.
So I think something good was happening, although we did have fluorescent lights.
I tried to get rid of those, but they weren't hearing of it.
So, so, you know, it was kind of a mixture of good and bad.
Cool, cool.
All right, well, maybe the next time.
I know Mel said there's going to be future events.
I definitely want to check that out.
It would have been wonderful to actually meet you in person and some of the other people that, you know, I've been talking to now for quite a while, but I've never actually, you know, shook hands with and had an opportunity to just, you know, have a drink and relax.
And so maybe next time.
Right.
I think it's a great idea and I think it was, you know, went really well.
I can say that there were some very good financial people there.
The one thing that I did notice is that they have, you know, it's almost a sales job.
It's a very positive, uplifting crowd in that regard, not Not my side of the room, but you know what I mean?
And so they're a little, in my view, a little Pollyanna, overly optimistic about what's going to happen.
But in a sense, it keeps, you know, it fuels them to do more in this sector.
And I do understand that.
They're huge fans of what they're doing in XRP and the whole, you know, digital financial thing.
And I do have some things to say about that.
I don't know if you want to talk about that or not.
Yeah, sure.
You want to talk about XRP on that front?
Yeah, I'm not an expert by any means, so I just happen to have a little bit of XRP.
Actually, I had trouble buying it in the early days.
I think you couldn't even buy it on regular places, but now I actually have it, I think, on Coinbase.
The thing is that I've done an article and it's called Tracer's Checkmate.
That's also on my Substack and it's on my main website as well.
I'm going to go ahead and bring up your website while you're talking, so go ahead, continue.
Go ahead.
Yeah, so anyway, it's called Tracer's Checkmate and the I read this book, you know, and the book is listed, you know, exact title is, it starts with Tracers, I think.
It's an excellent book about how the law enforcement and various aspects of law enforcement learned to track people on Bitcoin.
And so the one thing that's key in that book that I really liked is it has a statement and it basically says blockchain never forgets and I think that that should be you know repeated over and over again.
Blockchain never forgets because we are rolling into blockchain full speed as I've said many times and I actually had to get up in the
Kind of interrupt the speaker and correct him because he was talking like blockchain was the thing of the future for tracking things like votes and I basically wanted him to know that the NSA and the White Hats had tracked all of the votes of the 2020 election and so that's really important and I'm sure they plan to do the same thing in 2024.
So they have the evidence as they say they have it all.
You've heard that saying, right?
Of course, yeah.
So yeah, so that's what we're talking about.
I don't think people really understand.
I don't know if you can click over to my book.
I can, not my book, but the book I was talking about, Tracer's Checkmate, on my Substack.
It's on your Substack.
All right, let me go ahead and click on that.
Let's see.
Yeah.
See if you can get over there because it's it's very revealing that what they went through to track these people.
And and so like.
I mean, this is yesterday's news.
What?
What was the name of the article?
It's called Tracers Checkmate.
Tracers Checkmate.
OK.
Yeah.
The way you find articles is just click on Kerry Cassidy News and Views and you'll get the list if you just scroll down.
Um, and you should get to, it wasn't that long ago, so it should be on there.
Um, I'm looking, um, and I guess the next page, I guess I write more articles than I realized, huh?
There's a lot of stuff here.
That's incredible.
Okay.
Well, I've got it here.
Um, let me, am I sharing it?
No, hold on.
I'll give you a share screen.
Hold on.
Let me get out of this and then I'll give you a screen so you can pull it up.
All right.
You should be good.
Okay.
So, yeah.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
I don't know if this is it.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, Traces Checkmate, that's the title, on Bitcoin tracing and the vote.
And it's a very revealing investigation I did and article and book.
And first, I've been reading, I read the book, I read the whole thing.
And during the reading of it, I started writing this article and what I got was this idea that why, you know, because this has always bothered me, why did the White Hats do the tracking using blockchain?
And they even announced it, Charlie Ward announced it and others announced it, that they were going to track the vote prior to the 2020 election, that vote they were going to track.
And I know that the NSA has been assisting the White House, you have to go back over Juan's material to hear, you know, the whole story about how they, they, how the head of the NSA at the time, went back channel to tell Trump he's being tracked.
And so and so forth.
So we know they did that.
And the thing is that even Sidney Powell and the rest of them had that evidence, but they never got to present it in court.
Of course, they were blocked there.
But, you know, Trump could have gone public at any or he still could any day of the week.
You know, just go to the front door of Mar-a-Lago and, and start talking, you'll have a million reporters there.
But aside from that, there's, you know, ways that they can garner, you know, certain, whatever you want to call it, if they wanted to make such an announcement that they don't.
The reason they don't, and maybe people don't get this, but it may have more to do with four years ago than it does to do right now.
But the idea here is that people didn't know four years ago that they could be tracked on Bitcoin much.
A lot of gangsters and such Park their money in Bitcoin, as of course you must know.
And so they thought they were untraceable and as it happens, they're not.
And so they started doing arrests for the last four years.
And I think what they did was hold back on the vote reveal, you know, the tracking of the vote.
For one thing, because they wanted to allow the law enforcement to nab the bad guys.
The other side of that is that there's some gray area as to whether it's legal to track the vote on blockchain.
Now, one would say it makes logical sense you would do it and it shouldn't be a problem.
They track everything else we do.
But, you know, this is the kind of thing where, you know, perhaps they would make a ruling and I don't think it's ever gone to the Supreme Court or anything like that.
So it sets a precedent, if you will, what the White Hats did.
So I think they were also a little nervous over that, although I'm not sure.
Okay.
So now I have this other article which Am I still sharing?
I could stop sharing and let you do it, but the Cuban Missile Crisis return, you know, that we're in right this minute.
It's in the news, obviously, that China and Russia are moving supposedly missiles, but I have a belief that Missiles are, again, relatively old technology.
So the real technology that they're probably moving into that area is, you know, you can appreciate that Cuba is like a standalone platform that can surveil the United States big time and also send weapons into the United States, among other things, right?
Yep.
So the idea here is that and that this is what my article is about.
My article is about what Captain Mark Richards told me several years ago about the Cuban Missile Crisis.
And this is before Juan started talking about the fact that we were going to have one again.
Okay.
But Juan has talked about this.
Anyone who listens to him should know that he's constantly said this for the last I don't know, three years at least.
Definitely, yes.
So I have been watching that sector and watching the movement.
And I knew that recently, like even in the last year, China started moving equipment over into Cuba.
So I knew the setup was happening.
Now it's in spades.
Okay, now it's in the news.
Now Russia's gotten on board and doing that too.
But what they don't realize, according to Captain Mark Richards, is that Nixon, was very involved in both the Bay of Pigs and Cuban Missile Crisis, was totally haunted by the fact that it was a grey ET intervention, that no one, no humans, regular humans know that that Cuban Missile Crisis had actually a lot more to do with not missiles.
Okay, so that was kind of the surface.
So a lot of, in fact, a lot of incidents, international incidents that we've been seeing over the years, are ET happenings.
And they are takeover happenings, they're invasion scenarios.
And in the case of Cuba, what I think they've done is establish a huge underground base under Cuba.
And they are basically using that to threaten the United States.
And of course, the people that are in government that are in high levels, secret space and whatnot, know what's what they know their enemy, they know what the enemy is threatening.
But they have to have a show and tell for the public.
And so, You know, and it drives me crazy.
And by the way, you know, COVID is also a grey ET scenario.
It's the greys that are actually reptilians.
And they're a step down from reptilians.
The reptilians, in some cases, created them.
Even the humans have created some.
Our Secret Space program has created some greys to do jobs for them, because they're like little walking robots.
And so on.
This is really what's happening.
And I've talked about the southern border, that the gray human abduction program, that that's like the X-Men scenario.
And they have been coming in in droves to the United States, as you know.
But it's the weapons and the sort of militia aspect or whatever you want to call it, like Chinese military, etc.
is just the tip of that iceberg.
Because The reality is that what you're having are grey ET human hybrids.
The thing about the greys is they lack empathy.
They're more like robots.
So these people are going to be non-empathetic by nature.
And they may even be, you know, half gray, half human, or they may have just a bits of gray DNA.
I don't know the exact combination, but the abduction program is very, very famous.
And partway through that, you know, I've been doing this for 20 years.
So I know, and Dan Burish used to tell us that what happens is they had made a deal with the grays and the grays always break their agreements.
So, but the deal was to stop abducting, supposedly, Humans above, you know, in the United States, but to give carte blanche to abductions below the border.
And Mexico, you know, Central America and South America.
So that is what happened.
And their skies have been filled with UFOs.
There's tons of footage of that.
Jaime Masson is the reporter who's one of the people who's reported on it.
But it's in the news down there a lot.
Okay.
And so nobody understands what this means, but we are being invaded.
So it's not just the CCP and the Chinese who are backed by certain, probably a certain group of reptilians, and I'm told a certain group of spider beings, perhaps.
So people need to understand that everyone looks at the surface, they only see the surface.
But if you don't understand What's motivating these humans?
What's pushing these humans to do what they do?
And how they're backed and given, you know, they're given special weaponry, new weaponry, various things, technology.
As you know, the negative ETs, as we call them, are always trading technology for power with humans, because they know humans for humans.
Technology is like candy given to a kid, right?
So what you were referring to, I think, was what I had understood to be the basis of the Granada Treaty way back in, you know, post-Granada.
Did I mispronounce that?
I'm sorry.
Yeah, I believe it's Granada.
OK.
All right.
So so the deal was is that the Cabal essentially made a pact with the with the Greys that are largely, I guess, manufactured even by the Draco is my understanding.
Is that correct?
Yeah, as Mark Richards puts it, they serve the highest bidder.
So they'll serve anyone who will, you know, use their services.
And they are, I mean, the Secret Space Program is full of relationships with various ET races that we have no say in.
There are some positive, but there's the negative ones that you have to worry about.
You don't have to worry about the positive ones, right?
Which is why I don't talk that much about them.
Well, they are here to help us.
But nonetheless, a lot of what we have to do is do it ourselves.
You know, like, you know, God helps those who help themselves kind of thing.
Right, but we do have positive VTs that are that are assisting the... The Mucians, okay, like Valthor, the real Valthor, not the faker that's out there right now saying he's Valthor.
He's not Valthor.
But anyway, you know, there is, you know, the so-called Galactic Federation that's made up of a lot of negative VTs as well.
The Ashtar Command, which is also You know, questionable loyalties, so on and so forth.
So there have been shifting loyalties.
And of course, this is what the Ashiana Dean Voyager books are about, is all the different wars through time with humans, all the different genetic re-engineering of humanity over the years.
And COVID was only the most recent version of that.
Okay.
All right.
So this whole Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0 that Juan has been talking about for quite some time, and I certainly know that that is factual.
I've heard him many, many times talk about, before this is all over, we're going to have a Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0.
We're going to have a market crash.
So Is it your understanding, this is really sort of what I'm curious about, do you think that there are actual back-channel communications that are happening?
Because I know that in the Q-drops there are several references to the back-channel communications and certainly there are even references to a Cuban Missile Crisis sort of a scenario.
I could pull up the drops.
But when you give your analysis, you always frame it in the sense that there's that surface level like you just said, but above that there's a whole different game that's being played.
And so I guess the essence of my question is, do you think that The back channel communications that are happening, presumably with Trump as commander in chief and Putin and Xi is, I mean, do you get the sense that they're all working together to kind of create this theater, to create this climactic moment where we're going to have this big standoff and then ultimately this is going to force the hand of the military to come forward?
Or do you see it more as That everybody involved in this situation is kind of being puppeteered at a level that they don't necessarily even understand.
Because I've listened to a lot of your analysis and sometimes it almost sounds as if you're implying that there's a possibility because you and I have talked about the AI that the White Hats are using and that the White Hats I think you've said this, ultimately you've kind of implied that they could be being manipulated by this AI and not even be aware of it.
So I'm kind of curious to, you know, how do you see this whole thing?
Because there we have it.
We've got Putin, Trump and Xi.
And of course, you know, back in the 60s, we had JFK and Castro and Khrushchev.
So, what do you make of this, Carrie?
Do you think that this is all theater, or do you really think that there's some larger framework here that a lot of people aren't getting?
So, I do think it's a larger framework.
I don't think it's cut and dried, as people might like to think.
But I do think there is orchestration going on here.
So, I actually added a paragraph to this, like, you know, I wrote the whole article and then I went to sleep and woke up and added a You know, this this extra paragraph in the top so that people understood what I'm really getting at.
So I'm just going to read this line here and then I'll explain.
But I'm basically saying I am not suggesting the White Hat military is creating this event, but I am saying they know about it.
And we'll use it to their advantage, which is what happens in war.
As Sun Tzu says, never interfere with your enemy when they're about to destroy themselves.
And that's my paraphrasing.
Now, it's very important to understand that even if, let's say, Xi and, to some degree, and Putin are coming on board With the idea that what they want to do and what they are doing is could serve the American side and the White Hat patriots and so on.
And Trump being the CIC and the current president.
Keep that in mind.
And they're totally aware of that.
So, you know, if they're making moves, they're making moves because they're negotiating with Trump behind the scenes.
on those moves.
Otherwise we might have all out war at any second.
It's not quite like that.
I think that there is a give and take, but it's kind of interesting I don't think people really get these human relations that have to do with the political scene, where, you know, people cannot be depended on to act in a rational manner when huge, you know, even nukes, which I consider to be old technology, but other technology is involved.
And don't forget that if ETs are also involved, then ETs are influencing the sides.
And they can they can do things even to the human mind, mind control, etc, at some last minute juncture, which could push a button, so to speak.
So in my article, I draw people's attention to, to the STARS Academy, And I forget the main guy's name that kind of got involved with that, but he was a former rock star guy.
And he has said, actually, I think it was in an interview, and he's not the only person out there that said this, but he was maybe a well-known person that said it, which is that a lot of people don't realize in the UFO community that instead of turning off the missiles at missile silos, in the United States and in Russia and so on, that they've actually tried to turn them on.
That the gray ETs have actually tried to instigate war, a world war, for now years between us and Russia and China and so on.
Because war for them means a number of things, okay?
It's an opportunity horizon for them to go in and basically Undercover of darkness, undercover of the sort of confusion of war.
Reptilian ships come in through CERN, through the portal that goes to the Draco Galaxy, and they pick up refugees, and they pick up humans, slaves, and sex objects, and so on.
And then they take them off planet in droves, because under those circumstances, when you have war, a lot of these so-called refugees are not traceable.
And so they have actually been taking them off in droves during these wars in Iraq, Syria, you know, now in Palestine, and so on, so forth.
So what's happening here is, is a scenario that, that, you know, these airy-fairy ufologists that are on the left side, let's say, of the spectrum, have this completely misconception that all ETs are good, because Stephen Greer says so.
And that, you know, there's, you know, nobody, no ETs will let you use nukes and all these kind of, they're lies.
And I've gotten testimony from very high level sources have testified to the fact that nukes can be used, are being used, and that we are not, you know, aware of that.
For the most part, and even certain CIA agents have told me this.
And so I have to tell you that there's also many different degrees of nukes and all that.
There's also so many different weaponry that we don't know about, like scalar waves, like You know, particle beam weapons, you know, there's ray guns and all these different things.
They can do all sorts of things with even changing reality, the nature of reality, temporarily.
And they play these games.
So what I'm trying to paint a picture here is that once you put in place these elements, and let's say you're moving in some kind of equipment, right, and you've got ships with missiles and this and that and other hidden weapons, Weapons and then you've got grays underground in these bases.
And there's, you know, other things going on at the same time.
So you've got elements that could kind of go incendiary any moment.
So it doesn't, there's no one in charge at that point.
Okay, so this idea that White Hats are in charge, it's not in charge of the world, okay, they might be in charge of their area, their particular, you know, like their portion of the military, let's say, they think they Are calling some shots because Trump is respected.
He's going to come into office.
All my Illuminati.
Um, defectors, if you want to call them that, who have reported to me has said Trump is definitely going into office.
He's going to be the president.
They think they can control him.
That's how they look at it.
They think they're control- they probably think they're controlling him now.
They, meaning the ETs?
Is that who you're referring to?
Meaning the CCP, MI6, and the ETC contingent.
I'm talking about both human and ETs, you know, enemies.
Oh, okay.
So your sources are telling you that essentially that they're going to allow Trump to become president again optically because they think they can control him?
Yeah.
Top Illuminati people are telling me this.
It's decided.
They already know it.
They've even announced it.
I mean, I think it was the World Economic Forum where they said it was fated complete.
It's already fated complete.
But see, trouble is, in the United States, it's a different scenario.
So on the one hand, I'm talking about European Illuminati, black magicians and, you know, black nobility, whatever you want to call them, right?
That's more European.
In the United States, we have a different scenario.
Because the people of the United States, first of all, they own guns.
Second of all, they are voting with their feet at Trump rallies, etc.
So there's a sort of Trump fever that has captured the imagination of Americans like, you know, true patriots and all this, of which I'm one.
I think you are as well.
You know that where this this man, this group, the White Hats, and their military, Space Force, and whatever other military one comes on board with them, which is maybe intelligence for one thing and other ones.
So we're really talking about a different scenario in the United States, like within the United States, as opposed to outside the United States.
And so what I'm trying to say is that the White Hats are kind of trying to control This situation within the United States so we don't have civil war.
And one of the problems they have is they need to put Trump back in office.
They, they're doing it by the vote, eventually, but there's a lot of feeling among even one and others talk about where they're afraid that That there's going to be some, whether it's the Cuban Missile Crisis one, or whether it's another event, that some event is going to come along to prevent or delay the vote, the election.
You understand?
And everyone in the White Hat community kind of is sitting around waiting for that.
And this Cuban Missile Crisis that's now escalating, you know, it's in the news, it's very obvious, You know, this is where things are going.
However, there are other possible events that could also come along to delay the election besides that.
So let's say they continue to move stuff in there and no one says anything and Biden says, you know, oh, isn't that nice that we have missiles, right, you know, or other tech right off the coast of the United States and isn't that just fine?
Well, when that happened to Putin, With NATO putting missiles next door to, you know, to Russia, Putin basically went to war with Ukraine.
He gave them an ultimatum.
He said, get rid of those missiles, get away from my border, or you're going, you know, I'm going to war with you.
The stupid, you know, people that are running NATO basically were baiting him on purpose because they wanted war and they got a war.
Okay, so now we are going into that scenario here in the United States with vis-a-vis Cuba.
And we've had a scenario in the past that also depicts this issue.
When you put missiles or, you know, weapons and you move them physically right next to a country, Especially like the United States, which is kind of far from Europe.
So there's always that issue.
Can Iran really reach us and our cities, blah, blah, blah, right?
So this is what we're talking about.
We're talking about necessary, I don't know if evils is the right word, but negative events that the White Hats are kind of at this point now notorious for allowing to happen.
So they don't create them.
They're happening on their own initiative.
These leaders, you know, Putin and China, you can imagine, bonding together to bait, by the same token, our country.
And what they may well want, along which does align with the White Hats, is they want this Biden show to be gone.
They want the real truth to come forward and the best way to do that is to force Trump and the military to come forward In a crisis and say, hello, this is the only person with those military codes, the new codes, whatever, which is Trump.
And the reason we never gave it to Biden is they're not going to say he's dead, even though he is.
And he's played by an actor.
I don't know when they're going to say that.
But we all know that.
But those, you know, Democrats or Democrats or, you know, people that are completely Deaf, dumb, and blind think Biden's a real person.
You know, he's not.
He's other than an actor.
And this has been going on for four years.
So let's just look at the scenario of how the, you know, certain things that my enemy, enemy of my enemy is my friend.
It's serving the White Hats.
It's serving Putin.
Why?
Because he wants a situation where he can get NATO to stand down and to get the fuck out of his face with their missiles and all their nonsense, because they don't stop.
They keep Poking the bear, right?
So you can understand how that works for him.
So if at the same time it works to reveal Trump and to get rid of Biden so that these people can be having negotiations in real time out in the open with these countries, other countries, and get a move on on what's going on on planet Earth.
Also, look at the situation because Russia is a lot more open about their ET relations, okay, about even with their own people.
Okay, Putin and Medvedev and has been quoted, I was just talking to a Russian told me that Medvedev basically said, you know, this is it, you know, these, these beings are here, you know, hello.
And there's other ones, you know, I think back in the day Gorbachev was quoted as saying, you know, things about ETs being here and such.
So, You've got to understand where we're at.
If we cannot deal with ETs on a relatively equal basis, and they continue to infiltrate our world, and they continue to manipulate our leaders of various countries and cause wars and cause whatever they want to their ends, and we are divided, as long as we are divided on this planet, We are more vulnerable than ever.
Okay.
And that is what's going on.
But we are fast approaching a time and a space when we have to have open negotiations.
As open as any negotiations can be with off-planet races who want to do, believe this or not, business with us, you know, and who have, in some cases, positive reasons for wanting to be open about disclosure.
And in some cases, the negative ETs don't want it because they want to continue to infiltrate and take over.
We're actually fighting the battles for our lives and nobody really gets it.
Well, you know, it's interesting, Kerry, because whenever we talk about ETs, you always bring up the negative ones and you acknowledge that there are positive ones.
You actually just said, I think just a few moments ago, that going back to the first Cuban Missile Crisis, they've been trying to instigate wars.
They've been trying to turn on nuclear silos.
They've been trying to do all of these things.
The Greys At the behest, presumably, of the Draco or whomever the highest bidder is, but they've been largely unsuccessful.
Well, I mean, they haven't really been successful in creating the types of scenarios that they want to.
Is that right?
Because to me, that would indicate... No, I think they're very successful.
And on the contrary, see, with all due respect, I assume you haven't read the Ashyana Deen books, right?
I've read some of them.
Not the full book.
I've read some of them.
It's all about the guardian races.
And the guardian races are a group of races that are positive, that I talk about all the time.
But nobody gets it because I put it in the context of the Ashiana Dean Broiger books, where she downloaded the entire books from these positive ET races who consider that they are guardians, that they all contributed their DNA to creating the human hybrid.
And, you know, there's, so, you gotta understand how this is, I am mentioning it, you're not hearing me mention it, and these are the positive ETs, okay?
Okay, but I guess what I'm saying is, in your analysis, usually the way you frame your analysis, it seems as if you're suggesting that the negative ETs have a leg up, that they're winning.
Well, they definitely do.
We're living in a world, this world, is tilted if you want to have a barometer.
You know, we're tilted this way to the negative.
Okay, there's no doubt.
Just look around.
Humans are starving.
They're being ripped off right and left.
And the reason the White Hats are trying to save our world and save the United States is because the increase in the negative powers out there, and they're continuing Oppression over humanity through the ages, going back eons, you know, continues.
And so if somebody doesn't step up and stop this, it's very close to actually a complete takeover with also an AI transhuman agenda that turns us all into cyborgs, robots, androids.
Okay, so what does it hinge upon then?
I mean, if at the top tier you're saying you've got these dueling forces, you've got positive ETs and you've got negative ETs, you seem to think that the world, like you said, is slanting toward the negative right now.
It has been for eons, yes.
Okay.
And I acknowledge that, but I think where we might differ is in terms of where we're at right now as opposed to where we've been, but that's okay.
We can put that aside for a moment.
What does it hinge upon in terms of getting a hold on the negative ET agenda?
Because the way I'm reading the chess board right now is that, I mean, even when you go back, and I know you don't emphasize Q as much as I do, but this situation that we're in right now has been directly referenced
Uh, there have been several references to, uh, The Sum of All Fears, as you know, Hunt for Red October, we've got Q-Drops talking about, I think it was, uh, 3734, if I'm not mistaken, I could actually pull it up, but, uh, talking about the, uh, the White Squall movie that had, that took place during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Yeah, but you gotta keep in mind that Q, As far as I'm concerned, it's, you know, there's a group behind it, but it's basically an AI.
So the AI is looking in the future and seeing all these events, and they come in terms of probabilities.
So all it's doing is telling the White Hats, and the generals, etc, what is coming.
And then what they have to do is they have to decide how to handle it.
Okay.
So they know, so big deal.
So what if the Q drops tell you what the AI sees, you know, whether it's looking glass, some, they think some carbon based AI, which I think the deal, the big deal is that it's, it's evidence that we're actually, that this is all basically a part of a script.
I mean, it's not a script.
How could they have predicted these deltas?
He didn't write the script.
He was telling you what is the odds, what is in the scenarios of all the different elements that go into making, you know, life on Earth and elements throughout time.
And things that we bring upon ourselves and then reading the tea leaves, if you will, but with much more accuracy than, say, an individual.
You've got an AI that can read a thousand billion tea leaves and all the different elements that are going into making what we call the future.
So it's not Q writing the future.
It's the Q telling the humans now what the future contains, because we've learned how to access AI.
And remote viewers and psychics have always done this.
Nostradamus tried to do it, you know, and so on and so forth.
So we are precogs.
That's why Cliff High has got his web bot and he reads the precogs, which are the humans who know, see, because as a collective, which is, you know, the Jungian idea of the universal mind, is that we can see our future, and we are precogs of it.
So there is a timeline, or a number of timelines that have very high potentialities of happening.
What Q does is determine what has the most You know, and then they believe it or not, you know, they put their generals behind it and they vote on it for all I know.
But you know what I'm saying is like, I think you're getting the cart before the horse.
What we're looking at in the Q drops is just the reading of all of this intelligence that comes in.
From the universal mind, from the cosmos, from the various, the ways, the way time is constructed and so on and so forth.
Q is not God, you know?
I never said Q is God.
I know, but you're implying that Q is writing this scenario because you call it a show and they call it a play and so on.
The reason they call it a play...
And they've used that word, eat your popcorn and sort.
What they want is to get the MAGA people not to go get their guns and try to participate.
That's why they say, sit back, it's a show.
They're trying to get the humans, you know, the patriots to stand down while these operations are going on.
These games are being played on these very high levels between these You know, enemy, you know, potential enemies and quasi friends, right?
Because Putin's kind of our friend and kind of our enemy.
And, you know, you have to look at it like that.
So what I'm trying to do is paint a more complex picture, but a clearer picture of how this is is playing out.
So I understand the simplistic vision of, oh, they've got it all in the White Hats are just performing a show, but they're not.
They are vulnerable at every Juncture.
And if you haven't watched what's been going on over the past four to five to six years, you know, Trump didn't back the Vax because he liked it.
He hates Vaxes.
But he was pushed in a corner by the Republican Party and he had to appear.
appear to back the VACs.
And then there's a number of kind of things they did to mitigate the issue.
So they're not, you know, they might be trying to play 5D chess, but there are other players that are equally as good or better than they are in most cases.
And Lahaina, let me talk about this one minute, because Lahaina was one of the most clear indications that they don't have it all in hand, that they were being under attack Space Force in Lahaina, Underground.
They were battling.
They had a sabotage.
They had a general within NORAD that basically had them stand down when they could have stopped the attacks.
There are so many mitigating factors that you have to bring in to this scenario.
And so just running around like some chicken with her head cut off going, oh, watch the show.
Don't do anything.
They've got it all in hand.
It's bullshit.
Well, excuse me, but I never said that.
It's a PR exercise.
I think you're taking what I'm saying to a whole different level.
I am addressing the audience, not so much you.
What you personally think, I'm not talking.
Okay, well, you said you, so, you know, I thought you were talking about, you know, what I'm... Well, I mean, I'm having a conversation with you, but we're doing it in front of an audience.
Are we not?
I'm aware of that.
I'm aware of that.
And so am I. And so that's why I'm talking about this.
I'm not trying to attack you personally.
You can think whatever you want.
I don't even know all the things you think.
But what I am telling you is that a lot of people out there are believing these types of things and you're basically expressing them.
Well, I'm believing that the white hats are in control.
I do believe that they're in control.
But I'm not suggesting that there's... Of what?
I'm not suggesting... Of how much I get paid tomorrow?
Of what Putin eats for breakfast?
What exactly are they in control of?
You have to look at this as an adult.
Gary, I don't think you need to insult me.
We're just having a conversation here.
Yeah, and it's tiring when people make stupid, bland statements like they're in control.
Of what are they in control?
Well, I mean... Are you trying to say that they perpetrated Lahaina?
That they stood there with their arms crossed, willingly letting those people be decimated and killed, and children killed, etc, etc?
And secreted away a few children that they could rescue?
When you're at war... All these things going on are completely in their control?
Are you going to let me talk?
I was finishing a sentence.
All right.
Well, when you're at war, both sides are going to get hit.
I fully acknowledge that.
Now, when I say that the white hats are in control, I'm not suggesting that every single thing, and I've been very, very consistent about this, that every single thing that we're looking at and watching is all fake.
What I'm talking about is controlling the ultimate trajectory of where we're headed.
I'm not denigrating anybody.
I am simply telling you that the White Hats are not completely in control of everything.
They're not God either.
And God is light and dark, by the way.
I'm not denigrating anybody.
I am simply telling you that the White Hats are not completely in control of everything.
They're not God either.
And God is light and dark, by the way.
It's not just light, like a lot of these people tend to think.
And so God and what's happening is not under White Hat control.
It sounds like you want to believe in, you know, I don't know, Santa Claus.
Well, it sounds to me like you want to believe that the White Hats aren't in control.
And you know, you're missing the point.
I give White Hats credit for the fight they're launching against the dark side.
It's a massive, massive undertaking.
And by the way, they're probably behind in their scenario.
And we're waiting, we're sitting here waiting for them to so-called exercise their control, do an EBS, all these different things.
You know, they're deathly afraid of civil war.
Doesn't that tell you something?
They're afraid because they're not in control.
If they were in control of the United States and all the humans, then they wouldn't give a fuck what people wanted to do or didn't want to do as, you know, creating civil war, because that would not be an issue.
They are, they do not control all the elements.
I don't, I'm not trying to be impolite.
I'm just telling you, they control some things and not others.
And they're losing sometimes and gaining other times.
And this is a war.
And in war, both sides Sometimes win, sometimes lose.
Do you think that ultimately, because we've had this conversation or at least parts of it before, do you think that ultimately that the good prevails over the evil?
Yes, I do, but on planet Earth that's not so much the case.
Can you elaborate on that a little bit?
What do you mean?
It's a well-known fact that on planet Earth we have a Many people refer to this as a prison planet, for example.
And if you listen to the remote viewers, and if you remote yourself, you would see that there are still hundreds of thousands of children disappearing every day.
And that there are people going hungry all over the globe, and that we still sit in a monetary system that is demeaning and insulting to us every day of our lives.
And yes, we're working to get that changed.
All these changes are wonderful.
The White Hats are as much dependent on the people as the people are on the White Hats.
It's actually a mutual relationship.
Yeah.
Therefore, without us, they can't succeed.
And that's that's real.
And that's why Juan spends his whole life traveling all over the world and talking nonstop.
And it's all about garnering votes.
And if votes were meaningless, he wouldn't bother to do that again.
So they are not in control.
They need the people.
They need positive energy.
They even need God and good energy on the side of God, you know, in their prayers and all this kind of thing.
They need help in a large measure from people like us, influencers, because we are reaching the people.
Oh, I agree.
I mean, this is a civilian military alliance.
And one of the things that I heard recently that I really thought was great analysis, I think it was Ricardo Bosi who said it, that You need to have the center of gravity or the high ground in the war is the will of the people.
And so in many ways, I think that what we've been experiencing over these past four years, and we can have different perspectives on it, that's fine.
But I do agree with you 100% that it's about having the will of the people behind you.
They can't win this war without us.
I completely agree with that.
And when I say that the White Hats are in control, I'm not suggesting that they're like sitting up on some high perch and they're God and they're all knowing and they don't really need us and that everything is a show and it's all a movie.
I've never said that.
What I'm saying is that I do believe, just as I probably would think that 107 and many other people would agree, that they're controlling the trajectory, they're leading the deep state down the path that they want them to go.
For example, with... Sometimes they're trying to do that and sometimes they're not.
Okay, well, in the case of the Cuban elements are out of their control, they are not in control all the time.
Okay, it's a bland statement.
That just implies a certain lack of perception, in my opinion.
Okay, so my hats are in control.
And I have listened to one be questioned on that level many times.
And he actually never says that.
Okay.
They say things like Jan Halperin says things like, you've got it all, and what she means is she's got the blockchain, you know.
Well, if they weren't in control, let me ask you this.
I mean, you believe that 107 is JFK Jr.
And you believe that, you know, he's who he is.
Right.
So this is a guy who would know he would be one of those few people that would be in the know, the less than 10 people that actually if he's actually JFK Jr., he would know what the plan is.
Right.
So he's been saying all along.
That we're going to have a Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0 type of situation, and here we are, you don't view that as the White House steering the trajectory?
No, again, it's information they got from the AI, and perhaps doubled up by having their remote viewers remote view, and you know, any psychics that they got on board, and the General's opinions on that, and they get a Basically, a percentage of likelihood that something is going to roll out a certain way and then they make a plan to deal with it.
But that doesn't mean that certain elements of it can't get out of their control, because it is a war and because both sides have their own, you know, hidden agendas and hidden, you know, powers.
And, you know, there's certain aspects of, for example, Our military in the United States is hugely split.
And one of the things that you've seen maybe over the years that Trump has been in office is that what he does is keep his enemies closer.
He uses that principle, and he does that for a reason, because they're not in control, and because they need to know what the enemy is up to every second of every day, as the enemy also wants to know about them.
And in a surveillance society such as we exhibit and have at this time, both sides are surveilling the other side.
And a lot of times they're both using AI, and there is a question as to whether that AI is actually surveilled and controlled by a higher AI.
That might be alien control, for example.
So when I look at these things like the word control, and I see the hierarchy of powers that are way above human, that are going on and operational in these wars and in these activities of humanity here, as well as our different levels as multidimensional beings, I don't see the White House area of control as being that great.
I think it's a nice thing to say.
It's a pep talk.
You know, it's a rah, rah, rah, but it's not... What about all the people that are wearing masks that have been disappearing?
What about all the people that have stepped down?
What about all the CEOs?
What about the bricks that's de-dollarizing?
I'm not saying they're doing nothing.
Look, I'm not trying to put down...
I think the fact they're going into bases and rescuing children is huge, you know.
But again, are they in control if they have to rescue those children?
No, they're rescuing the children because they were down there in the first place.
You know, the bridges are being blown up because they're networks for child trafficking that have been operational Even in the last four years.
So we're rolling out an attack on the dark side, on the evil.
But it's ongoing.
And even Juan has said multiple times that this thing is not going to be over tomorrow.
In fact, when Trump gets in office, it's going to escalate.
There's going to be more pushback, if you will.
So, you know, I just, I think you shouldn't be taking offense because the White Hats aren't completely in control of the whole world right now.
It's so obvious they're not, that it's, you know, you have to be deaf, dumb, and blind.
You know, look at the Palestinians.
Are they in control of them being, you know, massacred in Raqqa right now, this minute?
No, they're not.
See, being in control means you're responsible.
And if they're responsible for all the evil that's going on today, on this planet, I think you're really putting a pretty heavy burden on the White Hats.
They certainly are not, okay?
Well, I'm certainly not the only one.
They're in control of their military and their response.
That's what they're in control of.
They have a plan, they have a planned response, and they will carry it out.
That's their area of control.
What they encounter in the midst of battle, and it's an ongoing battle, and it comes from all different directions, And by the way, E.T.' 's as well.
You know, it's a pretty lofty remark to put all of this on the shoulders of the White Hats.
So I know you like saying the White Hats are controlling.
Maybe it makes you feel safe and other people feel safe.
But it's actually, you know, it's more like a pep talk than an actual reality.
That's fine.
That's fine.
If that's your perspective, that's fine.
It is definitely the word I'm saying to use in the word control.
And you're getting kind of triggered by No, I'm not triggered.
I'm telling you, it's not logical.
What I'm saying, though, that's what I'm saying, is that you're taking one thing and you're adding additional layers.
That's what you wanted to have a discussion about.
We can talk about something else.
Obviously, you're being triggered by this.
This is related to the Cuban Missile Crisis that could go either way and could actually get close to let's say a nuclear standoff for the show for the people that understand what's happening on the surface are going to think it's a nuclear standoff but it might be a standoff in a completely different way.
Because I have secret witnesses like Mark Richards who have worked for these people and who say that most international incidents, by the way, are not what we have been told they are.
And that they are being orchestrated by off-planet races that are a lot more in control of us than we are of them.
Okay, well let's drop the word control.
Do you think that the White Hats have the upper hand?
No.
Because that's basically what I'm saying.
No, I think it's not even a fair fight, to be honest, but I think they are pulling ahead.
And I think it's probably they're being allowed to at this point because, you know, the darkness and evil, if you understand it through the ages, has been operational on this planet for a reason.
They have been winning for a reason all these years.
The White House didn't just hit the scene, you know, after the death of Kennedy and then suddenly start know, taking over the scenario.
I just think, I think humans at this point are a bit, I don't know, self-centered and egotistical and don't really understand the playing field.
And I just went to a conference where it was very clear to me that the financial people don't even understand the financial scenario that they're dealing with.
And I happen to talk to Illuminati people that are I don't know, temporarily disclosing to me.
And any of those people that I ask basically think it's a joke, that the White Hats are a joke.
They don't even consider them.
I mean, that doesn't mean they're right.
I'm just telling you that there are different perspectives out there and they have reasons for the way they think.
And the families in Basel, Switzerland, and, you know, the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds and all these players, some of their aging members are actually dying.
There's some evidence that Trump went around and gave blackmail letters to a lot of these leaders around the world.
We're aware of that.
I mean, the White Hats are doing a lot of very good things.
I'm a big supporter of the White Hats.
I don't like blanket statements that misunderstand the nature of the playing field we're dealing with.
Okay, fair enough, fair enough.
So let's talk a little bit about, since you brought up the economic side of things, and a lot of the individuals that you've come across don't really seem to fully grasp what's happening.
How do you view, because I mean, I've been very clear about how I view the BRICS alliance as essentially being this sort of covert rollout of the new system of the quantum financial system, NASARA and JASARA.
I'm imagining that you probably have a different perspective on that.
So I'm just curious, how do you view the BRICS nations?
How do you view what's happening on an economic level?
And why don't you paint a picture for us of what you believe is happening with the economic system?
Because it seems to me, It seems to me like the, and I know you actually wrote, I think you wrote an article about this recently about the petrodollar questioning, you know, you said something about like the death of the dollar petrodollar question mark, and then you went on to elaborate.
So can you tell us a little bit about that?
And we can maybe, you know, talk about that a little bit.
Okay, so the trouble is that, and even again, you know, Juan was supposed to speak at this event, and he's been on Mel Carmine's show a number of times.
And every time Mel tries to convince him that XRP is going to be the way, and that, you know, Nisarra, Jisarra, some form of it's going to happen.
And this and that.
And Juan, basically, he's very careful.
He's very diplomatic, I guess you might say.
He's been trained by the best, right?
He grew up in that environment.
So he is very careful about contradicting Mel to his face.
But the reality is He basically says Nassara Jassar is nothing like what people think it is.
And I can tell you that Paladin, who's also a White Hat, he's a forensic financial investigator that was hired and works with the White Hats, and I've done several Over the years, ever since 2010 at least, interviews with him about Jussara Nassara, about the rollout of the QFS, and so on and so forth.
And I can assure you that in those interviews, he is not a fan of Jussara Nassara either.
So he's a white hat, Juan's a white hat, and so there seems to be kind of a trend there.
But the idea here is that they are not as optimistic as a lot of the people who, at least we're speaking at this conference, who want to believe that the QFS is just around the corner and that they're going to be, I guess, winning and XRP is going to be the way of the world.
So, you know, I don't, again, I come from, you know, I talk to people behind the scenes.
That's really my strong suit.
And I also have my own intuition.
So I bring that coupled with the testimonies I get and the questions I ask that are probing, as you can imagine.
And I can tell that there is a huge disconnect between what's actually happening and that the financial people who are the very highest rungs of the financial system are all highly skeptical of where this is going.
They are nothing like, you know, your average, I don't know, MAGA person, let's say, who's hoping the RV will still happen, you know, and things like that.
And just saying that this is, you know, it's an, yes, it's an orchestrated game, but not from the level you think it is.
It's an orchestrated game.
I mean money is run on this planet by the Anunnaki and off-world hierarchies and they are making the final decision on whether humans are going to get certain kind of financial systems or not.
There is a reason why this entire place is run like a prison planet The foot, you know, with the foot on our neck, financially speaking.
Well, certainly since Bretton Woods or whatever they call that.
So, you know, what we're talking about is, yes, the White Hats have been building and Paladin is one of them.
He built the QFS.
He's very involved in that.
He's gone to ground.
He doesn't talk about it.
He doesn't even do shows anymore.
But I can tell you, go listen to all my interviews with him and you'll see that he was reporting about that, okay?
Can you give us a general sense of how he was expressing what the quantum financial system was going to be?
Yes, asset-based.
Okay, so that part of it is... And that is what everyone's talking about.
We're talking about gold, silver, various metals, also based on human work.
And the resources of each country.
One of the things that he was involved in and one of the things they did when they built the QFS, as if you listen to my interviews with him you'll see, is they had to figure out a way to go to every single country and basically figure out what things, what wealth they had and what wealth they did not have.
And did they have wealth in human labor?
Did they have wealth in natural resources?
And if so, what resources?
And where those things would be weighed on a scale, so to speak, to say what each country was worth, or had a financial backing of, you know, asset based wise, and then they had to build the entire system to do that.
And then they included blockchain, which is blockchain, in essence, never sleeps.
And It is continually operational and never forgets.
So it's the most surveilled that we will ever be is because of blockchain.
Blockchain is touted by people who are on the bandwagon, let's say, of XRP and others all the time as being totally wonderful.
But they don't seem to realize that blockchain could be good or it could be bad.
It can look at you as a criminal and be able to track you and trace you or it can look at you as just a regular person who could also be tracked and traced and maybe could become a criminal.
You know, it's kind of like Minority Report.
We're in a land where some of these things that appear to be good and that could bring like the arrest of bad people I totally agree with you there.
I mean, I think that just like any tool, it really depends upon who's wielding that tool.
And in the case of surveillance technology, I don't think it's going anywhere.
I actually had a discussion about this with somebody recently as to, you know, the capability of it being used for nefarious reasons.
So I think we're in total agreement there.
So asset backed is the way that Paladin described it.
Now, do you see us moving in that direction?
I mean, do you see that?
Because to me, it looks like that's what the BRICS are doing.
Yes.
But okay, let me explain about the BRICS, because I've been told by my secret witnesses that the BRICS are completely infiltrated.
That the BRICS is actually was, it was dreamed up, I think, by a Brit, a British person, and that it is, that although it seems like a positive move towards the future, you know, it's the nature of
You might say evil, but also the sort of dark, satanic, evil ones to take anything that goes on and infiltrate it and try to turn it in their direction.
And the BRICS is just one more example of that.
So I understand people are very thinking it's a positive move, thinking it's against the US dollar, the petrodollar and all of that.
But actually, I posted on my telegram somebody who made some very good statements about the reality of how whether the petrodollar really will go by the wayside.
And it made a lot more sense to me than a lot of things I'm hearing.
And I can say that even Juan has said the dollar is not only going to survive, but it's going to thrive.
It just will be asset backed.
There's the difference.
But other than that, the dollar is going nowhere.
It'll cease to be a petrodollar, right?
If it's an asset-backed dollar.
Not necessarily.
I mean, we have, are you saying that we don't have oil?
We have tons of oil here.
No, no, I'm not saying that.
But what I'm saying is, is that what it's backed with, you know, is ostensibly the, the petrodollar is backed by oil.
What I'm suggesting is if we go back to a constitutional system where it's gold and silver, it wouldn't be the same currency.
It would be, it wouldn't be the petrodollar anymore.
It would just be the U.S.
dollar.
It would be different.
We're talking about whether the Saudis, for example, like as of today, I think, is today the 9th or whenever the 9th was?
A couple of days ago.
Yeah.
They're taking, you know, stopped exclusively taking the U.S.
dollar.
They're still taking the dollar, apparently, if I understand it correctly.
But what they are doing now is is allowing other countries The Chinese yuan and so on to pay in their currencies as well, which weakens the petrodollar or the dollar as the US petrodollar, but it doesn't do away with it.
Now, someone else also suggested that this is absolutely a ploy to basically unbalance the scales in such a way, and where it's all going to end up, I don't know, but I can say that You know, these are the testimonies I'm getting.
I'm getting that that this so-called, you know, the descriptions in the public domain of what the BRICS are all about and how they're operational, how wonderful they are and how they're taking down the United States.
You know, a long time ago, we were told, you know, because I've been doing this for 20 years, that they would that the Illuminati, that the powers of Europe, et cetera, et cetera, would be aiming at taking down The U.S.
That the U.S.
was the biggest obstacle to a one-world government, and therefore they had to attack the U.S.
over the years with everything they have, which is in essence what we have seen.
And we are in the midst of that.
Thank God that we do have a pushback, which is the White Hats, and that Trump has been the negotiator he has been because he's gone around to world governments And convince them of why they might want to back us.
And I have some backchannel information that I'm not really at liberty to disclose, but I can tell you that it's all about setting up the United States to continue to be the strongest financial and military power on the planet.
And it's going to be backed by incredible amounts of money.
Now, maybe this person is just, you know, fantasizing, you know, like people do on the left, but who knows?
You know, what I'm saying is that I'm getting different information than what's published in the press.
OK, fair enough.
And that's that's why I'm asking about.
I'm interested.
And I think, honestly, a little vibrant, healthy debate is never a bad thing.
I think the audience appreciates it.
They know my perspective on things, at least my audience does.
And I think your audience knows yours.
But, you know, we come together and we, you know, we chop it up a little bit.
There's nothing wrong with that.
All right.
So let me ask you this.
How do you, because I think this is a sort of an all-encompassing, it's a big question, but I think it ties in with a lot of the stuff that we've been talking about today.
How do you define victory in this war?
You know, I'm a precog and I do have dreams of the future.
So, in the future, I've actually seen what I think is a likely scenario.
Now, I will say, That a lot of my dreams do happen.
And they take years to happen.
And so I have no guarantees that they will or they won't.
Fair enough.
And when we're looking into the future, it kind of depends what point of the future, because there are milestones and such.
But I can say that according to my dreams, prior to the election of 2020, I've said this many times, in April of that year, when the Schuman Resonance was sort of off the charts, I had a dream about Trump.
And I saw that he was running for office and I saw that he is going to win, but it wasn't to win 2020.
It was that he was going to win and he was going to send an exodus of all the illegal aliens out of the country.
And I saw a graphic, like a film strip of, you know, of the highway, like five with tons of caravans of illegal aliens and all their stuff packed on top.
And that was what I was shown before the 2020 election, which didn't make any sense because at that point, in terms of what was really happening around us, it was the opposite.
We had droves, as you know, of immigrants coming to the border and massing at the border, also during 2016, but also during 2020.
And it's continued as you know and then the border was taken down and now then they let carte blanche and so and so forth.
So it's very interesting to me that just in the last year Trump has started to say when I get back in office there is you're going to see an exodus like you've never seen.
Well that matches my dream prior to 2020 perfectly.
Now that's just an example.
Now if I look forward to the future I have seen that I believe Trump and the White Hats are going to be victorious.
Trump will come back into office.
We will have something of, you know, a re-spot or a, you know, I don't know what you want to call it, a gala or whatever kind of mentality, you know, that things will get better for a while.
However, I've also seen that one of the things that they have not finished doing And indeed it's almost, you know, I don't even know if it's human possible to finish doing, but they will still be fighting the fight behind the scenes with alien races that have built underground bases and undersea bases here on our planet.
And they have been there for eons.
And we have to get rid of them in order to have sovereignty, because they are still doing nefarious things to top level, you know, topsiders, whatever you want to call that, and so on.
And they are also, there are reptilians working in the Secret Space Program and have been, going back to William Tompkins' information, but a lot of other people talking about that over the years, so that NASA and the whole Secret Space Program is infiltrated by both reptilians and Pleiadians.
Pleiadians being the ones that are, in theory, on the side of the humans.
However, according to Tompkins, one of the things about the reason our brothers and sisters, the Pleiadians, want to support us is because they need somebody else to fight the reptilians because they're fighting them.
So they are recruiting us by helping us, helping us develop our technology and so on and so forth.
So that is definitely gone on and that it continues to go on.
So I see that there is a, you know, sometimes the fight is like, kind of like this.
It comes and it becomes more in your face and it's much more manifest on the surface earth.
And sometimes it goes subterranean and the real fight is happening, you know, without us seeing what's really going on, which is what has been the case for many decades or eons.
And So I see that actually the tables could even turn if certain elements, negative elements, could come in the future beyond which, you know, I'm seeing on, you know, I don't know how, you know, time and dreams and remote viewing or psychic stuff is always hard to sort of pin down.
So, but I do see a positive future in the immediate future to some degree.
But I definitely know that our fight with aliens is actually, as we've been told in Camelot, first we would fight the Chinese.
We would test a lot of our weaponry.
It would be an agreed upon war.
And then we will be fighting ETs.
And that indeed appears to be the case, and it's going to increase as time goes on, like the, you know, the sort of in-your-face quality of our relationships with various ET races.
And this is of necessity because we are joining, as people call it, the galactic community and our awareness and our politics, you know, called exo-politics, our politics with the good and the bad and the ugly, off-planet, inner-planet, You know, interdimensional, etc.
is paramount and it will have much more weight in the everyday conversation and what I'm talking about will be taken for granted in the future.
So, okay, so it sounds to me like, just to paraphrase your answer, that life gets better on, let's just say, on the surface level, politically, economically, you might even say spiritually, that we're going to have this big, almost like a human renaissance, if you will.
Maybe I've taken that too far, but that's kind of sounded like what you were saying, but that the exo-political conflicts and struggles continue perpetually, in essence.
And you also said that, is that a fair assessment before I move on?
Yeah, I think that the battles that we have yet to fight are perhaps even bigger with the various CT races than ever before.
And that according to my whistleblower testimony, you know, have been not only predicted, but are getting closer and closer.
And there's a reason why, for example, This so-called disclosure is happening and even reaching places like, you know, Congress, and they're having meetings about it, and so on and so forth, and more and more people, more and more generals, for example, are now coming forward.
There's a general, God, what is his name?
Yen, or he's got a strange last name, but anyway.
Who just came forward recently.
In other words, generals that never in the past would have ever said anything about ETs are suddenly acknowledging, yes, we have off-planet races visiting us, we're having dealings with them, etc, etc.
So, yes, this is going to become much more engaging and it could involve a lot more battles as well.
OK, yeah, well, I mean, I think that's that's very intuitive, especially considering how much narrative prep they've been doing in terms of disclosure about non-terrestrials, extraterrestrials and so on and so forth.
So I think that, you know, I certainly see see that.
But one of the things you did say that I just wanted to excuse me, a point of clarification.
About the CCP and the war, you know, testing out the weapons with the United States versus the CCP, and it was going to be agreed upon and so forth.
And you said that it seems to be that we're moving in that direction.
So, you think that the United States is going to get directly involved in a kinetic war with China, with the CCP, is what you believe is going to happen?
This, it's not so much that I think that, as I have been told that for 20 years.
So one of our earliest whistleblowers, Henry Deacon, came out under that, that name, which is not, his real name is Arthur Neumann.
I remember that one, yeah.
And it's, it's all documented on my website.
Whistleblower after whistleblower talking about The, you know, a coming war with China.
So, I don't know where we are on the timeline and I don't know exactly how it's going to play out, but it certainly does appear, even in the news, what news we do hear.
is that things are mounting in that direction pretty steadily.
And that war with Iran is actually war with China.
And so a lot of people don't kind of look at it like that, but that's the reality.
And there's reasons for that having to do with the relationship between Iran and China, what they've exchanged in terms of weapons, Which is to say nothing about what they've they've exchanged in terms of AI, by the way.
And, and all of this does point to, I mean, Pete Peterson is another witness who talked about these coming wars, and so on, and talked about Terminator, we talked about the days of Terminator, and, and the future.
So, you know, so all of this is, is coming to the fore now.
And this is a very, you know, we're entering
A time that is highly contentious, even when there were other times in the past, even the distant past, when if you go back to places like the Middle East, especially where areas have been decimated by even scalar weapons, weapons that are beyond nuclear, even back then, that indicate that there were some very fierce battles going on.
And that we are entering another time similar to that, I would say, going in the future.
But it's not going to be the immediate future from what I understand, at least that we haven't quite, you know, this, even this Cuban Missile Crisis.
I mean, look, China is putting weapons right off our coast in Cuba.
That sounds a little aggressive to me.
That sounds like you're setting the scene for something.
I don't think it's just to be friendly.
I think that the Chinese soldiers coming in the border are an indicator that China has designs on, if nothing else, on our food system to feed their people and other things like, you know, the natural resources of Canada and so on and so forth.
So China has been strangely Maybe quietly, stealthily, but obviously aggressive in so many ways lately that it's kind of hard to ignore.
And I forget what they call that.
There's a, you know, the cell phones, their, their, whatever their main cell phone provider.
You know, we banned them here in the United States, and they were banned in England as well, but for the longest time, England... Huawei, I think.
Yeah, Huawei.
And that is a surveillance technology that they put into our phones and our technology and made deals with technology companies.
And now it's completely barred by international, you know, by, I mean, U.S. federal law.
So if you want to know if there is a signs that we're having an escalation of perhaps something coming in the future with China, then I think that all the evidence is there to say nothing of the fact that what they found, even then I think that all the evidence is there to say nothing of the fact that what they found, even our intelligence agencies found during the 2020 so-called election,
which in which we had a takeover of the vote and a takeover and a placement of Biden, who is a Chinese asset into office and in complete invasion, take note, takeover of our country.
And oh, by the way, the White Hats weren't in charge then either.
And so we are.
You think Biden's under state control?
We have been invaded by the Chinese, by the CCP side of the Chinese.
Now, whether Xi is head of a more benign side of China, I would hesitate to assume.
I think it's possible.
I think he has some good dealings with Trump, for example.
But I also think that it's kind of like China could be viewed in some ways as A very old, you know, wise and driven society that is very self-involved and also elitist.
When they look at, you know, white people or they look at other races, they consider themselves to be supreme.
So there is a problem innately with dealing with calling that a friend would be sort of a mistake.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
OK, so let me ask you this.
So you've heard Trump multiple times saying, I'm the only one who can stop World War Three.
Right.
And he's made these very bold statements about how he could turn this whole thing around in an instant.
So let me just, you know, hypothecate here for just a moment.
It looks as if in your assessment that, and I can't disagree with you optically, that it looks as if we're going headlong into a wartime type of situation with both Russia and China.
You've also talked about how Russia and China really naturally couldn't be allies, but that's kind of a separate issue for the moment.
We'll just take China.
That looks like optically we're headed in that direction.
Now, if Trump comes back under well, I mean, we all believe I think you and I both agree that he's going to come back.
How he's going to how we're actually going to get there needs to be seen.
Right.
But when Trump comes back and he makes good on his word, let's just say hypothetically now, speculatory, and we don't have war with China, we don't have war with Russia and we enter into a relative state of peace.
How would that change or would that alter your view that you're expressing right now in terms of the overall chessboard and the potential?
Because I happen to believe that there are back channel communications going on between Putin and Trump and Xi to avoid this conflagration into a massive world war.
So if it doesn't head in that direction and we don't get directly involved kinetically with the CCP, would that change or somehow inform Perhaps a different perspective on where we're at right now in terms of, we're not going to use the word control because I don't want to get back into that, but let's just say that would you be more inclined to maybe believe that the White Hats are steering the trajectory more so than you do now?
If it doesn't play out this way and we don't end up... It doesn't look that way to me, but I will say this.
I believe that What we were told all those years ago does seem to be playing itself out and moving in that direction.
And whether Trump comes into power or not, It's going to be a highly contested scenario anyway, even on the world stage, and you have to kind of know the way I look at countries.
So one of the One World Order ideas is that eventually there had to be a One World Order in part because
When ET races want to come here and they want to set themselves up for example and they're given parts of Africa and Africa doesn't appreciate that but it happens anyway because the United States is the big boy on the block and so on and so forth but we still have wars between various countries going on non-stop So we're divided, right?
So it's very hard for other beings, other, you know, confederations, other, you know, planetary systems to do business or to deal with the United States, not the United States, the world, the human, the Earth, because Earth is a highly contentious battlefield.
And we're fighting each other more than anything else.
And so it's like we have to get our house in order in order to negotiate intelligently with these incoming races.
for the benefit of all our peoples on the planet, not just one section, you know, where the Nazis, for example, were singled out by the, by the arguably the hybrid reptilian humanoid hybrids called the all those from Aldebaran, who gave them technology they didn't give anyone else on the planet.
So they could have the upper hand in World War Two, and in essence, had one Through negotiation and behind the scenes world you know World War Two, so that we that Our country and our politics, and Britain as well, has become, in essence, what Jim Mars would say is the Fourth Reich.
So the Nazis didn't lose World War II, they actually, in a sick kind of twisted way, won it.
And we are living with the remains of those types of agreements, and we are now back in the same place again, trying to rectify that matter.
So when I look at the playing field and I look at these, where we're at as a, let's say, an Earth society, I know, for example, that they have these meetings on this planet in places like Antarctica and Peru and Exeter in England, I'm told, and I'm told by more than one witness about this, that we have been, that even the United Nations, what we call the United Nations, has been negotiating with ETs
In the ways that they had deemed, you know, important and vital for their operations, but not to the benefit, for example, of even the United States.
So what that means for us is that we are going to have to eventually come together and have a way of organizing Earth such that we can have Good negotiations with various off-planet beings, even when they come to invade us or take us over, so we know how we were going to stand against them and so on and so forth.
As long as we are divided, divided we fall, and that's what's actually been happening.
We have been honeycombed by various negative ET races because we are not united here on planet Earth.
Well, I totally agree with you there.
I mean, I do believe that it's pretty obvious that their main tool of division, their main tool is division, rather, to basically keep humanity oppressed.
I think that I guess where I was trying to, you know, go with that question is like, is there anything that would steer you in a different direction in terms of your perspective?
In other words, like it looks as if optically we're heading into these disastrous situations.
But if these disastrous situations don't actually unfold the way that they look like they're going to right now on the surface, would that change how you feel about the White Hats And their ultimate position right now in terms of what I what I see, I think that we're in a situation where a lot of this hinges on some assumptions that we're making right now.
And that is that Trump is coming back into office, assuming he does.
OK, and that there is no wrench thrown into that trajectory.
Then, like I said, I think we may have a time of relative Peace, you might say.
That behind the scenes they'll still be fighting various wars because the invaders are still here on the planet, but it will be with off-planet races and eventually escalate to a surface war.
So, I guess what I'm saying is that, in a sense, the war with China, Iran, Israel, all these countries, is happening right now.
We're already in World War III.
We have been in World War Three now for quite some time.
And so it's not so much that I see World War Three coming.
I just think that it's going to perhaps escalate.
It is escalating.
Now, whether it reaches this sort of pinnacle, which is where the whole White Hat thing is geared, is geared to the idea that this ongoing war over Taiwan, over this one, over that one, over with Iran and Israel and the Middle East and who's going to run it and so on and so forth, and Putin and NATO and all of this
If these things get relatively settled on some form or fashion, and Trump comes back into power, those two things need to be kind of simultaneous.
Otherwise, I mean, but to get Trump in power, I think it's been clearly said by one and others.
He firmly believes we're going to have a delay in the election because the dark side is going to do some action that's going to force a delay.
What that is, we don't exactly know, but it could be a Cuban Missile Crisis where Trump has to come forward and be acknowledged by our military.
And by the way, I haven't said this yet, but this is something I see in spades and I've I've said it for many years, really.
See, I think this big avoidance of civil war in America is a lost cause.
According to my dreams of the future, we are going to have a continued civil war like we do now, but it's going to be worse, and that there will be splits in the United States.
That's actually One of the scenarios I've seen, and those are going to come about somehow.
You know, I'm not shown everything, obviously, and I have seen.
When we were, for example, bombing the Hawaiian Islands, I was in an underground base with a portion of the White Hats, and they weren't even telling the soldiers that they were actually they weren't bombing Hawaii, they were bombing The great ET base under the major big island, as they call it, which is very much there.
And that was it was actually happening.
But it was actually the western portion of the states that had aligned themselves under a president.
So I think that there's maybe I'm seeing possible futures.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's not like all cut and dried.
I try to keep an open mind about everything.
But what I would say, I do see some evidence of success.
I see Trump coming into office, but I see the war of worlds, if you will, continuing.
And so how things play out, what happens before other things that happen, and so on and so forth, I don't know.
But I also pay close attention to when one makes predictions, so to speak, or You know, the scenarios that he sets forward as being logical, because I know that he is getting his information from an AI and a certain group of generals.
He's told me this to my face.
And also, you know, perhaps a group of remote viewers, because he said he didn't need me.
So he was all fine in that area.
So he tells me he told me this so he's not just getting this off the top of his head he's getting it he's part of a team and the team is giving him direction on what to say to the public and he's delivering the message so when you ask me will it change my view of the future I don't have a hard fast view of the future I have Elements, you know, I see relative peace at a certain point, but I see us bombing an ET base.
I see landmasses rising out of the sea off the coast of San Francisco, for example.
I see amazing things in the future, but I don't see Total calm.
Let's put it that way.
All right, fine.
So if Trump does come back, you just mentioned that you believe, or are based upon your dreams, that ultimately, maybe not just over the horizon, but that at some point that a civil war seems to be inevitable.
Um, but to me, it seems kind of well, I'm just curious to get your perspective on this.
If it seems more likely to me that that scenario would play out if Trump doesn't come back, if for some reason that they were able to to keep him out of power, then I could see the American people rising up.
But do you see that?
I see.
I guess you might say I see the opposite.
You know how they said in January 6, it was the it was the MAGA people that caused the, you know, the insurrection or whatever the hell they think January 6 was.
But in reality, it was the Democrats and it was carefully planned.
And even though Trump asked for the National Guard, they refused it and only brought them in at the very end.
And so on and so forth.
So it was heavily orchestrated by the left.
And so by the same token, I see the future where a lot of some of these things like the rebellion is going to be against Trump.
It's going to be against MAGA and against Trump.
And that Trump is winning.
He has won.
He is the CIC.
And they're not going to like these realities when they're fed to them.
Even if they do have the EBS.
And I also want to tell you that, you know, one of the things I do besides remote view the future myself and have dreams and so on, is to watch what Dick Allgaier, who was one of the top remote viewers in the world, has a group called the Future Forecasting Group that I joined.
And I watch their predictions of the future.
And I also watched the Courtney Brown remote viewers who are these are all with a track record and they've proven to be very accurate.
And what I find in both camps is they're both seeing unrest around and after the presidential election.
And so I I believe and I have seen, as I say, In fact, Duncan O'Finnian, one of our witnesses going way back, a super soldier, talked about this, that he was also a pre-cog, he's a psychic, and he said, Rivers would run with fire, that the United States would be partitioned into various, you know, sort of groups, and so on and so forth.
Now, this is what the White Hats are trying to prevent.
I don't think they will be successful in that particular aspect of it, but it's going to come after their success, you know.
Once Trump is in office, then that battle will begin, you know, to Because these people are not going to give up.
They're, you know, Democrats, and they have a certain way of life and looking at the world, and they're not going to be able to handle a lot of the truth that MAGA people already have accepted, you know what I'm saying, about their world.
I mean, I guess my question is, like, with Biden, I mean, even the mainstream media is saying that he's got a 37% approval rating.
Way, way lower than that.
And you've got these massive showings of support in New Jersey, the bluest areas in the country for Trump.
Hundreds of thousands of people coming out.
He goes to the Bronx.
He's got, you know, the black vote, the Hispanic vote.
Who's going to fight in this civil war against us?
I'll tell you.
I just did a very contentious interview with Pascal Najadi.
Yeah, I saw it.
You're aware of and you interviewed him yourself.
I did.
And a lot of people don't realize is that I did that interview on purpose and I warned him about it because I had seen so many of my colleagues interview him and allow him to make statements like Jews are not, all Jews are not human.
They should all be exterminated.
Across the board, statements like that.
And he made many statements like that.
He also says he thinks he's gotten the reincarnation of JFK, you know, John F. Kennedy, who only died a couple of years ago in his scenario.
And many people do say this, that a double died on Dealey Plaza back in the day.
And so he believes that somehow the spirit of John F. Kennedy has jumped on and become him.
Far be it, I have to say.
I think he's, you know, well I'm not going to say on your show because I don't want to, you know, bring any more insincerity towards myself.
But the reality is that People attacked me nonstop and have gone absolutely crazy defending him.
And yet this is a man who wants to exterminate a good portion of the population, just like Hitler.
And so the rerun to going back to the days of Hitler are absolutely remarkable in my view.
And the number of people attacking me in the most brutal, you know, in words, on my rumble, is just insane and they have no understanding of who he really is and how completely taken over he is.
And what that indicates to me more than anything is how many people out there, even MAGA people so-called, who do not understand reality, they don't understand the ET reality, They don't understand the real truth about what's happening in our world, and they consider being polite more important than talking about exterminating a good portion of the population.
They'd rather have you be polite to such a person, and I was perfectly polite, actually.
But they don't want you to, you know, actually ask him good questions, you know, and God forbid you interrupt anybody.
I mean, they're full of shit.
They're just so fucking full of shit.
And so this is what I see.
I see that people, rather than being Enlightened and awakened are not.
I see a good portion of the people who even consider themselves enlightened and awakened are, have a very long way to go.
So that's my, my perspective.
Okay.
All right.
So you're, you're basically suggesting that, that a civil war, cause I guess that might, that might.
And that is where the civil war will come from.
Well, people's lack of understanding.
Now, if the EBS should ever happen, I think, you know, you're going to have riots in the streets and people going absolutely crazy.
But most of the craziness is going to happen after Trump gets back in an office in a formal way, whatever that formal way is.
And whether it be through the military or through votes, I don't know.
I think it's highly possible he will come to the floor, come into office by way of the military.
We will have a military martial law.
And he will, you know, officially be put in office at that time and then we'll have an election that just cements his victory.
Interesting.
And by the way, you know, as far as Pascal goes, I should say that I've made it very clear to him.
My style is a little bit different, but I, you know, I've made it very clear to him privately and in private communications that I wholeheartedly disagree with his perspective on the Jewish people.
I have been I've been one hundred percent consistent about that since day one.
And I've made the distinction between biblical Jews and people who just identify as, you know, culturally as descendants of the Israelites and the Zionists and the Satanists.
I think there's a there's a and I'm glad that you mentioned that.
I don't want to and I'm not I'm not attacking him, but I'm just making it very clear for the record that that's where I stand on that issue.
And I certainly, you know, I appreciate you bringing that up.
So, OK, we've been on for, I think, we're getting to about close to two hours.
We should probably wrap it up a little bit.
Now, earlier on, I'd asked you a question about, you know, defining victory.
And we've talked about various different you mentioned various different ways, I guess, that, you know, you could approach that question.
It's not a simple cut and dry question.
And I agree with you there.
But do you see humanity unifying as a part because that's to me, that's the way I've always defined this victory in this war is that, yes, we're not going to we're never going to get 100 percent of people.
I mean, it's pretty amazing, though, that you've got something like 80 plus percent.
This was just featured by Steve Bannon the other day.
Eighty plus percent of the people agree that they'd be worse off under Biden continuing into another administration.
You can't get the American people or any people to agree to the tune of 80% on anything.
So to me, that's a pretty solid sign that there's a lot of unification that's happening.
We're never going to get 100%, but that's my definition.
And there are other aspects to it is the division that's been engineered by the cabal, as you know, really over centuries.
But let's just say more recently over decades with all the MKUltra programming, the trauma-based deceptive programming and so forth, that that's going to largely dissolve and that we're going to see each other more as, in essence, brothers and sisters.
I guess it may be a Pollyanna way to say it, but you know, not looking at each other as the enemy and rallying around because it's kind of It connects to what you were saying about the next phases of, you know, where do we go from here after this war?
Do we unify and then ultimately, based upon that unification, branch out and view our defense and our enemies as off-planet extraterrestrials as opposed to each other?
Do you see that happening?
I think that we're going to face a lot between now and that happening.
Okay.
You know, again, my information is based on whistleblower testimony over 20 years and which I still have behind the scenes.
Most of the whistleblowers don't go public nowadays.
Ever since Julian Assange and Edward Snowden were made examples of, for example, it made it much more difficult.
And so I think that there are wonderful things that can happen when Trump comes back into office, like the pardoning of Julian Assange, for example, even Snowden coming back to our country, I hope, and you know, things like that.
So I think there could be a wonderful future for America.
I believe that we are not going to go down, you know, by the way that lots of people seem to want to predict at this time and like I said I don't think the dollar is going to go by the wayside either.
Although I accept the caveat that it's now going to be asset backed.
But I think what the White Hats are fighting for is for the United States to stay together, you know, as a country and be unified in the way we're talking about.
And that the 80% does sound, seem very positive.
But by the same token, I think there's a lot of division within that, even within the people that are saying, you know, just because it's like almost anyone could win against Biden.
Okay.
You know, I mean, with all due respect to Trump, Biden is a puppet.
He's a laughingstock.
He's not even a real person.
He's an actor, as you know, and he's dead, besides the real person.
So running against a dead man is not really big competition.
So, you know, I think we've got a lot of room for disagreement within that 80% that say, yeah, let's get Trump in rather than Biden.
But My God, where do we go from there?
And there are many things to be settled, by the way, having to do with the payback and the arrest of people like Fauci and others.
And there are decisions that Trump could make that could make him People switch on a dime and he go and turn against him.
So he's going to have to play it very carefully and playing politics.
Let me just say this and this goes to Juan and the rest of the White Hats is not necessarily going to win the day in the future because people are waking up.
They are waking up as much as you know, there are a lot of people that are conflicted.
Let's put put it that way to be nice and They are not going to stand by when they've lost loved ones through this COVID debacle and just give a free pass to Trump and his actions.
In fact, I just did an important... I went and got an excerpt out of Alex Jones' interview with this colonel of the Marines, a Marine colonel, and his name is Gannon Burton, and it's on my website.
And you can see that I cut out a small excerpt because he was nailing it, I thought, in an excellent way of some of the issues that we're going to face in the very near future, where things are at.
And one of the main things he also talked about was the fact that Trump has got to come out and turn against the Vax and turn against, you know, this Insanity that he appeared to be backing even though he was doing it under duress.
And I think that they're going to have to explain that.
They're going to have to.
He's going to have to explain it.
Other people.
And I just heard this doctor, Robert.
I don't have his last name, so I probably would get it wrong.
So I'm not going to say his last name.
But he apparently was the doctor with Trump during some of this ordeal.
And I've got to tell you that he is covering up.
And he's good friends with Fauci.
And that is not a benefit.
So if that's Trump's doctor, we're in trouble.
So just saying, I see good things in the future, and I see lots of smoke on the horizon for a troubled people and a troubled future.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
All right.
Well, I think that's really a good place to leave it.
So before we part ways today, Kerry, first of all, let me thank you for coming on the show.
I know we had a couple of moments where we disagreed, but as far as I'm concerned, that's OK.
And I respect you.
I respect your perspective on things.
That's why I like having you on.
And I know that the lion's share of the audience feels the same way.
So thank you for coming on.
First of all, I mean, I guess any final thoughts?
I think you kind of encapsulated everything pretty nicely.
Any final thoughts?
And then maybe tell folks about your website, your great website, ProjectCamelotPortal.com.
Just give folks an idea of where they can get more Carrie Cassidy.
Okay, thank you.
And I appreciate that.
And I, you know, I appreciate that you kind of Spoke your mind and all of that, so I don't have an issue with that.
I mean, we're friends, Carrie.
You know, we've been having conversations now for two plus years, I think, and I think it's okay to butt heads every now and then.
It's okay.
Yeah, I mean, in the right spirit.
I think it's important to be understood.
And so it goes both ways on that.
And I think perhaps in this discussion, people really understood where we both are coming from.
And I think that's really a plus.
I think it's better to have real discussions rather than a bunch where, which I see all the time.
Which is hosts sitting there agreeing with their guests non-stop, paying them compliments and kissing their ass, which I hate.
So I see so much of that in my colleagues and I really detest it.
And let's see, so my website is ProjectCamelotPortal.com.
Across the top of my website are all my social media links.
Or most of them.
And I have thousands, literally thousands of interviews that I've done over the 20-year period.
A good portion came from my old YouTube channel that went over to Odyssey, but those are older ones.
And the new ones are all on Rumble, pretty much in date order.
and let me see what else I have an old bit bit shoot channel that is still got old videos on there you know because thousands and thousands we're talking two thousand or more videos okay and of course they've all been stolen and posted everywhere under the sun and I have a A relatively new YouTube channel where I've now been posting a few things, but they're also on Rumble because I make sure to put them on Rumble because I could lose that channel in any second.
For example, they gave me a strike on the Pascal interview and deleted it.
Rumbled it?
No, YouTube.
Oh, I was going to say, I didn't even know Rumble did strikes.
Okay, it was YouTube.
All right.
YouTube.
I lost my YouTube a long time ago.
Yeah, literally, you know, just gave me a strike and deleted it.
And so I have one strike now.
So that means I have two left.
And what can I say?
So yeah, my Telegram is highly active.
I go there before I go almost anywhere else and post stuff constantly, commentary on news items.
And I also tend to rant sometimes over there at three in the morning, if something ticks me off.
And, you know, I try to expose truths and lies in media as I see them.
So I'm constantly doing that.
So if you're not paying attention on my Telegram, I also announce all my shows over there when I'm going to go live with whoever I'm going live with.
And what else can I say?
Hopefully, I'm on Twitter, you know, Twitter X. I'm on Trump's social, you know, Truth Social.
You also have an Odyssey channel, I believe.
Odyssey.
Yeah, I said Odyssey.
And I have two Facebook pages and one for the company, Project Camelot, and one for myself.
I post there all the time.
And where else?
You know, I'm on Instagram.
I think that kind of covers it.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I mean, Keri Cassidy, you are truly prolific.
There's nobody quite like you.
And like I said, I have the utmost respect for you.
I really do appreciate you coming back.
Hopefully we can do it again soon.
So I think we're going to call it here, folks.
Thank you, everybody out there for listening.
We had quite an audience and I do believe that folks enjoyed.