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June 19, 2024 - Project Camelot

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KERRY CASSIDY INTERVIEWED BY TRUTHSEEKERS

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Good morning and evening.
	You're evening over that way, Kerry.
	Thank you so much for joining us here at Truthseekers.
	It's an absolute pleasure to have you with us.
	Thank you.
	It's great to be here.
	Yeah, so just to let our audience know, how did you come about with the whole Project Camelot?
	Just a little insight on who you are and how you... Okay, well I've been doing this now for 20 years and I started, well I worked for 20 years in the motion picture TV business in Hollywood and I reached a kind of glass ceiling where I couldn't, I wasn't part of the old boys network and I didn't manage to get in during that time, strangely.
	But I was sort of a rebel from Northern California so I didn't really know how to kiss ass properly, so to speak.
	And so what happened was I then decided to pick up a consumer grade camcorder and I make my own UFO documentary.
	I went to a UFO conference in Hollywood.
	And what I noticed about the speakers is that they talked a lot about UFOs.
	But back in those days, they didn't talk about who was driving them.
	And they also didn't talk about whether they'd even seen one themselves.
	So I decided Kind of off the cuff to do a documentary right then and there and I started interviewing during the breaks, I would go interview the speakers and ask them if they'd seen a UFO.
	That was like the opening question.
	And I interviewed they had some great speakers that day.
	They had they had Jim Mars and Rich Dolan and and and several others that so I got them all on camera just answering that question.
	And then we went from there and It was actually kind of fun.
	It was a small documentary and eventually I did release it.
	It is on my website and so it's called Have You Seen a UFO?
	Okay.
	It's actually interesting because back in those days to hear their answers and stuff and they would admit it, and sometimes they wouldn't.
	So that was a stigma back in those days.
	If you wanted to be taken seriously as a researcher, supposedly, you wouldn't admit to having seen a UFO, if you could possibly avoid it.
	But then there were more and more abductees coming forward, which there was kind of a split in the community at the time.
	And now that's all changed.
	And So we have people like David Grush.
	Addressing Congress with the whole UFO scene and everything that they call it a UAP, but it's the same exact thing.
	And whether it's ours or theirs is always a question.
	But to answer your question before is how did I get started?
	So that's how I got started.
	Now, I had been an abductee when I was back around the age of 12.
	I had a recurring Abduction dream sort of scenario that was like a scary, you know, it was scary to me.
	Yeah.
	So I was terrified.
	It was like a nightmare.
	And I would be walking out of my house on a Towards a white picket fence, but we didn't have such a thing, but that's my dream.
	And as I got closer and closer to the fence, there was a man in a top hat and a black long coat, and he was on the other side of the fence.
	And I would get to the gate and the buzz, just a buzzing sound.
	It was really loud.
	And then I would wake up.
	And so it kept happening recurring, you know, nightmare.
	And then one day I decided I would open the gate and go through it.
	And when I did that dream stopped.
	So I stopped having those nightmares.
	And so I saw Close Encounters of the Third Kind, I thought it was all true.
	And, um, I thought the whole world would change when I came out of the theater.
	I was very young then, and of course the world didn't change.
	It was just the same world as always.
	But for me, I basically was Hit the ground running with, you know, I didn't have an awakening.
	I was like that way since I was born.
	I just always saw, I saw ghosts.
	I was just aware of another world and I was in communication with that other world.
	And when I was really young, I was afraid of Santa Claus because he landed on the roof and that sounded, I guess, like an ET to me.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's just kind of interesting.
	So yeah, that was my early beginnings and I became a journalist in college.
	So I have journalistic training.
	And I also, as I say, worked my way up the ladder in the motion picture industry and TV.
	I was a producer.
	I also became an independent producer trying to shop my own projects, but I couldn't get anywhere.
	It was really a catch-22.
	So, you know, I didn't know the right people.
	I knew some of the people because I'd been there quite a few years.
	I even had a screenplay that I wrote that was what you call a back pocket client of CAA, Creative Artists Agency, back in the day.
	But even then, it was such a radical thing to do that the agent who brought me in to talk to me said, oh, well, this is brilliant, but number one, you don't have the rights.
	Because I did a screenplay adaptation of a Latin American novel by Mario Vargas Llosa, who was, I think, a Pulitzer Prize, anyway, some kind of prize-winning novelist.
	And he also became president for a while, I think, of Peru, I think it was.
	Anyway, I eventually wrote to his agent, wrote to him, and sent them the screenplay.
	And they said it was okay with them.
	But the agent told me it wasn't commercial enough.
	And so I still have it to this day.
	And someday, I still hope to make movies.
	So I don't know that'll come to pass or not.
	Then, of course, fast forward to now when you have the whole thing happening with First, there was COVID and for the longest time I had a huge YouTube following and a very big YouTube channel with 70 million viewers worldwide and they knocked me off YouTube over Overnight.
	And that was in 2021, I think it was.
	And so then I had to, we had to make some of our videos membership only after, you know, they were public for about a month.
	So that's how I've been surviving because originally I lived on YouTube advertising.
	And even though they took You know, half.
	But still, then once I was off YouTube, I had to go to Rumble.
	And so, you know, you can make a little money on Rumble, but not much.
	Yeah.
	So you've always, you've always had the interest of, you know, what this world could really be.
	I find that very interesting.
	Yeah.
	I enjoy those subjects too, growing up as a kid.
	Don't have experiences like that, but I find that all quite fascinating as well.
	It goes all back to ancient history and hieroglyphs and mythology and astrology and all that.
	They talk about all that stuff, so I find that subject very interesting, mate.
	Sure.
	I mean, that's kind of an understatement.
	I think, you know, we're not alone in the universe, and I specialized since the beginning.
	We specialized when I had a partner for the first two and a half years, but then we broke up in a not very pleasant way, tried to do mediation, didn't work.
	Basically started disagreeing on everything.
	So then I took over Project Hamlet and he went to Project Avalon.
	You might remember.
	I don't know if you're an old timer or not.
	But anyway, so I can say that we specialized in whistleblowers from above top secret.
	That was our target that we were trying to reach.
	But the thing people maybe even to this day don't know is that they had to approach us We didn't go looking for them because there's no way to look for them.
	We were just doing what we do.
	We were the original sort of YouTube truther channel.
	So now everyone does it.
	But back in those days, we were pretty rare.
	And I had gone to film school.
	And so I taught myself editing.
	And so we would shoot and edit the videos.
	We'd also travel the world on a very low budget and upload the videos at night and we became very popular right away in the early days.
	Yeah, that's just remarkable.
	Your story is incredible.
	So with like the whistleblowers that have made contact with you, have you interviewed Dr Greer by any chance?
	Have you had a chance to talk to Dr Greer?
	Yeah, but I didn't want to.
	I'm not a fan.
	But what happened was we were doing a conference in Barcelona, which was, I think it might have been, I'm trying to remember the name.
	I think it was a MUFON conference, but I'm not sure.
	Don't quote me on that.
	I'd have to go back and look.
	But, you know, this has been like a long, long time ago.
	But back in those days, we were hosting a roundtable discussion, a live roundtable discussion at that conference, you know, in person.
	And He was there as a speaker, and then one of our key whistleblowers, Henry Deacon is the name he went by back in those days, but he eventually came out under his real name, which is Arthur Neumann.
	Anyway, he worked in black projects for at least around 20 years of his life and then eventually sort of broke away.
	But he was a very key, one of the first whistleblowers we have, and we have a substantial amount of stuff from him on our website.
	A lot of it's written, because initially he wouldn't go before the camera.
	But anyway, he came to that conference, he was actually invited by the Exopolitics Conference, that's what it was.
	So they invited him, they paid for his room and board, but they didn't want him to speak.
	So I went over to him after Bob Dean was on stage talking about Mars.
	And Bob Dean was one of our top whistleblowers at the time.
	And we were about to go to lunch.
	So I just said, you Here's your chance you could go on stage during lunchtime and just, you know, talk.
	And so I kind of encouraged him and he went on stage with Bob Dean.
	It was really, it should have been worldwide news because he said he went on in a jump room to Mars at lunchtime during his job working for the Secret Space Program.
	And we got threats, and he got threatened, and there's a lot to that story.
	So it was kind of really a groundbreaking situation that happened.
	But yeah, so I'm not sure what question I'm answering, but that was one of the early incredible whistleblowers that we had.
	Yeah, it's fascinating all the whistleblowers that are coming out at the moment.
	And sometimes you just, there's some that are coming out and you just sit there and it's hard to Yeah, I personally, I don't think, I mean, I don't think the whistleblowers coming out now are quite as good as the ones we had during the day.
	I mean, I have some whistleblowers that are great.
	So I'm not saying none.
	But I'm saying there's like, there's quite a It's now this sector is so crowded with people and you can't really tell who you're dealing with a lot of times.
	Humans are, as far as I'm concerned, a hybrid race.
	We have various ET DNA and over the years has been contributed to us for eons and eons.
	So some of these people that are so called whistleblowers are, you know, working with the deep state.
	Sometimes they're, they're lying, you know, outright, sometimes they're mixing truth and lies a lot more than the ones that I had back in the day.
	But I have some really special ones that have come forward over the last, let's say, 10 years.
	So it's, you know, I mean, it's, it's an ongoing project it's it's always you never know what's going to happen you never know who's going to come along but it there became a time when if you remember Snowden and Julian Assange were both they tried to prosecute them for being whistleblowers and once that happened there was a damper on the sector and a lot of people that could have come forward didn't
	And even some of them would come to me behind the scenes and give me information, but they wouldn't go public because they got too scared of the threats and so on that went on from the Deep State.
	Yeah.
	So, yeah, go Dale, sorry.
	I was just going to say, so, yeah.
	I'm quite young compared to most in this movement and what we do here.
	I've grown up watching this kind of stuff and the Phil Snyder story really got me hooked back in the day.
	Were you doing what you were doing back then?
	I was going to say I wasn't alive back then.
	I guess I might have been alive.
	I think he was in the 1960s.
	I was alive in the 1960s, but I was like a little kid.
	So I didn't know him.
	He was before my time.
	But I think that, you know, Phil Schneider was a wonderful whistleblower.
	And there's other wonderful whistleblowers.
	Beyond a Pale Horse, William I'm forgetting his last name.
	But anyway, the author of that book, I think it's called Beyond a Pale Horse or something.
	Anyway, yeah, so there were whistleblowers over back in those days.
	And we're talking going back even, you know, to Roswell in the 50s and so on.
	But it was a different time then.
	It was only the beginning.
	And Things changed quite a bit over the years, because I only started Project Camelot in 2005.
	So I've been, like I said, doing this for 20 years, but that's it.
	And it was November of 2005, so we're just coming up on the 20-year mark, I guess.
	And they were way before us, right?
	Yeah.
	But there were always whistleblowers, few and far between, of course.
	And then all of a sudden, we had a whole slew of them and sort of hit the ground running with a lot of them.
	Yeah, that's very interesting.
	And you're seeing a huge difference, obviously, now compared to back then.
	Unfortunately, the whistleblowers always found themselves in a situation where they Found themselves after a whistleblower.
	We're not going to see that as much now due to, you know, as Congress is coming out and the exposure is happening on what greater world we could be on.
	It's been hinted multiple times.
	And so what do you see now compared to 20 years ago when you started?
	It's a lot more publicly spoken about.
	There's a lot more people coming forward with stories.
	Did you see it as, you know, very credible sources, what comes out now compared to back then?
	No, I see, as I said earlier, I see our sources back then were more credible.
	Yeah.
	But I did two-hour interviews, so, and we got to know our sources pretty well, almost in every case.
	We were flying around the country and driving in this broken-down car kind of thing in Switzerland and in Europe.
	And so on.
	So we were interviewing people in person back in those days, because YouTube was not a broadcast network.
	You know, you had to upload your video, and most people were on YouTube for a 10-minute segment, whereas I was a YouTube, what you call a YouTube director, because I'd worked in, I went to film as UCLA Film and Television, a special School.
	So I had credentials and I had letters of recommendation and I sent those to YouTube and they made me what you call a YouTube director.
	That was in the very early days.
	And so I was able to upload two-hour videos back in the day when no one could do that.
	But because of that and because of my approach was not Conventional.
	You know, up to then, people didn't, you didn't broadcast live like that.
	They didn't have the technology for that.
	Okay, so you could go on radio, but you couldn't go on video.
	And so I started doing that with long videos, as I say, two hour videos.
	But as far as I'm concerned, a lot of the, like I said, a lot of the more recent witnesses coming out, supposedly witnesses are not Do the crackdown on Snowden and so on.
	A lot of them are more lightweight, in my view.
	They have memories, but you can't prove anything they say, right?
	Yeah.
	So it's like that.
	They might be perfectly legit, but it's all their own testimony based on Just their word.
	Back in the day, we had investigated the background a lot of times of our whistleblowers and there was a lot more credibility happening.
	And you just have to go watch the videos to see what a huge difference there is.
	We took it very seriously.
	I just want to touch also on the article that we spoke about before we recorded as well, Kerry, Who Kills Who First?
	I think this article that you wrote is something that a lot of people, I'm going to, I might share this screen quickly.
	It just really touches Everything that we need to start really looking at and questioning, in my opinion.
	Do you want to just elaborate a little bit on that article that you did write?
	Yeah, sure.
	Well, I mean, if you have any specific questions, I mean, what I'm really saying is that That this is kind of ridiculous.
	And we're in, I wrote the article before we got into this, what you call it, let's, yeah, so I wanted to talk about this absurdity of what's going on right now in terms of the Cuban Missile Crisis type of moment that we're experiencing.
	Yes.
	And, and and how people are Just challenging each other constantly and, you know, it's kind of like a, I don't know, it's some kind of like mono-mono, guy-against-guy, country-against-country.
	It's all sort of absurd in my view.
	This whole idea of of a pop pop that popular idea that there might be a nuclear showdown etc so um so i talk about the fact that there are things that people don't know one of the things there's a lot of assumptions in the ufo community things like that oh the aliens don't want you to have nukes and therefore they'd And so you're not going to have nukes and so on so forth.
	But there's actually been disclosure.
	One was to the Stars Academy, the guy who was sort of head of that, that rock and roll star for a while, if you ever followed them.
	And he came out and others besides him, saying that there were incidents going back Many years, and even in the 60s and so on, when there would be ETs, there would be UFOs over the missile silos, and that in some cases they actually turned them on, not off, because they were trying to instigate A war, a world war, and between us and Russia, for example.
	And so what I'm saying here is that they're back at it again.
	So we have a Cuban Missile Crisis back then that one of my top witnesses, Captain Mark Richards, talked about, which is that The Cuban Missile Crisis, as we know it, as the public knows it, was not at all what it really was, and that it was an ET human showdown, and that I guess the ETs were
	Maybe building I think they were probably building an underground base in Cuba and Cuba being right off the shore of the United States is a lot like NATO right now going into you know Ukraine and and putting missiles alongside the border of Russia which is why Russia attacked Ukraine.
	So a lot of people like to blame Putin for attacking Ukraine but we're in the same position now and they're doing this to us on purpose so It's kind of this idea that if you're gonna put missiles on our borders, then we're gonna put missiles on your border, see how you like it, and then there's going to be a sort of a standoff.
	So right now, As you may be hearing, of course, there are subs, Russian subs alongside Florida.
	And there are arguably have been has actually for now the past year, there have been articles about how China was moving, quote, unquote, equipment into Cuba, and, and, and virtually unchallenged, as far as I know, by the US.
	But now Russia has gotten into the game, and they're moving also.
	Missiles over to Cuba, supposedly, but I also say... See, a lot of times when they talk about anything in the news, whether it's a nuke or other kinds of technology like missiles, in my view, based on a lot of whistleblower testimony that I've had over these 20 years, is that that's old technology.
	We don't even know it's old technology, but it is.
	And so, We're really talking about what are called like particle beam weapons, scalar weapons, laser beam weapons, all these kind of different weapons that are a lot more, in some ways, more dangerous even than nukes, believe it or not.
	And so this is, they're not telling you this, but this is likely what they're really moving into Cuba.
	So I don't know how it's going to all shake out.
	I think in some ways that Putin is trying to bait and China.
	Both of them have an issue because the United States, as it has been constituted like before Trump, And now with Biden, is that we get in other people's business, we threaten them, but we don't allow them to threaten us.
	That's kind of how it plays.
	And we have sort of a geographic advantage of being separate from the European continent and even the Middle East and on then the Far East.
	But the reality is that distance is no longer that much of an impediment.
	to a threat now by these countries and therefore but Russia has an issue, of course, with Ukraine and the missiles from NATO.
	And then on top of it, China has an issue with our interference with Taiwan and us being right off the coast of Taiwan with our submarines and this and that.
	So what we have are two fields of, you know, where standoffs could take place.
	And so that's what my article is about.
	It's kind of a I guess you might say it's a plea for peace and for intelligent dialogue, rather than, you know, destroying the world.
	Yes.
	So what do you think people need to do in the movement, Kerry?
	What's something that you can say to people?
	I mean, don't get me wrong, I think coming forward with whatever information you have, and you know, if you think you're a contactee and you have been contacted and this and that, or if you're an MKUltra victim, or if you're a child
	molesting or trafficking a trafficked victim i think you know a lot of those stories should you know we should have testimony but those people are very afraid so we're hearing about them kind of second hand there are some famous people out there that have been part of the whole Satanic network who and I've interviewed, you know, satanic, I guess you want to call them victims back in the day.
	So I have, I have, and targeted people, by the way, there's also a lot tons of targeted people.
	And anyone who becomes very active in the sector, in a sense is targeted, I've been targeted, no big deal.
	Yeah, it's just what they do.
	And there's a scientist called Richard Lighthouse, who addresses the targeting and investigated it heavily, and found that Air Force was really responsible in many cases for the targeting of individual citizens, which, of course, is a crime against humanity.
	I mean, all these things are crimes against humanity.
	But so when you when you say what should you do, I would say that Something weird is going on.
	My recording has stopped.
	Oh, that's charming.
	So whatever.
	But so what's happening is that, you know, the more truth, we're obviously everyone's out telling the truth now.
	There are people that are lying and attacking people for telling the truth.
	But I think we need more of it, not less.
	And I think that People that are survivors who can get a certain amount of production or come out even under a fake name, who don't have to show themselves necessarily, but still can tell their stories.
	You know, I think that we have We need to have like an open door policy for whistleblowers.
	And whistleblowers, by the way, even David Grush brought this up, you know, they're threatened.
	They're being threatened, even in, you know, the ones that try to come to Congress or wherever, you know, to secret
	um contacts like David Grush who's a CIA asset or you know he's an officer I think in the CIA but anyway he took their testimonies and then said both he and they are being threatened so this is insane you know this secrecy it's kind of a push me pull pull you kind of thing where one minute they want to disclose something and then they want to put the lid on it the only thing they'll let you see is the tic-tac little baby things that don't look like a threat to anyone
	Very suspicious.
	And so on and so forth.
	I mean, there's just, and then there's new disinfo that is still coming out.
	Even going back to Roswell, people lying about that.
	So, I think that we need more, not less.
	And I think that people need to be more I don't know what you want to call it.
	I sometimes am criticized for being so upfront and asking the hard questions but I think people don't ask hard questions of their witnesses or the people they interview and I think too many times they just kiss the ass of the person they're interviewing and that just drives me crazy.
	So, I'm just so sick of that, and it goes on.
	My colleagues do it all the time, and it's very suspicious in my view.
	It's not at all, you know, like I said, I went to college, I was trained as a journalist, I was an investigative journalist, and, you know, I do the research, right?
	I do my homework.
	And so I know when I'm asking a question, a lot of times I'll even know the answer.
	And, you know, also because I'm a psychic intuitive, I can intuit the answer or a facsimile thereof.
	And then I'm really testing the waters to see if the person is going to try to lie to me.
	And then if they do, I don't just go there a liar to their face, but I do question them seriously.
	And in some cases, I can show the audience by the type of questioning I do, where the person can trip themselves up.
	And so I will do that.
	And, you know, I had a recent interview with Pascal Najadi, who's out on the network.
	I was going to come around too.
	Yeah.
	And you can ask me whatever you want.
	I don't mind.
	But the thing is that he was out on the circuit.
	With tons of my colleagues interviewing him.
	So I watched some of those interviews and I just saw they're sitting there like zombies or they're agreeing with him.
	And he's saying the most outlandish things, even threatening to kill most of humanity or at least a good portion.
	And I just thought, you know, I'm not going to sit still for this.
	I'm going to have the guy on my show and I'm really going to, you know, question him seriously.
	And I told him that before the interview.
	So he's prepared.
	He wanted to do it.
	And in fact, after the interview, he called me and said he loved me.
	And he loved the interview.
	And then at least 24 hours later, he went online and said he's JFK, which he has this Well, I think it's a possession type thing, but yes, he's an entity calling itself JFK has now convinced him that he's JFK, which is an insult to JFK nonetheless, but and he's now saying I'm under arrest.
	And then he told people he arrested me.
	Well, hello, here I am.
	So I'm not arrested.
	So you know, I, I feel sorry for him.
	So I had written to him the next day, you know, 24 hours later, and I offered to try to find an exorcist and to try to help him.
	And that's when he started attacking me like really seriously.
	And that's really the entity that is trying to take him over.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, I've been watching bits and pieces.
	I haven't watched full interviews with him because obviously there was something there that I just couldn't connect with, to be quite honest.
	And then someone sent me the interview that you did with him and I was just like, this is what we need to see.
	And I agree with you wholeheartedly that people just sit there and agree with some of these people, which gives them more fire in their belly to continue doing wrong and not speaking truth.
	Yeah, I just think it's wrong.
	You know, I think most of these people are not skilled journalists.
	They're not investigative journalists.
	They've actually got no training whatsoever to be doing interviews.
	You know, it's actually run wild, and they don't even have the right, in my opinion, to be out there.
	If they're just going to sit there and blandly agree with anything any guest will say, they need to do their homework.
	I'm not going to name names, but some of my colleagues really don't do their homework.
	They've got no idea who they're talking to.
	They have no previous knowledge of the sector.
	And in my situation, because I have 20 years behind me, I did a huge amount of work to learn everything I have learned, okay?
	So a lot of times I'll have multiple witnesses with multiple testimonies that, you know, substantiate the information I have.
	So I'm something of a threat to the mainstream and a threat to the alternative as well.
	And people like even 107 told me I did one interview with him after which he said he'd never do an interview with me again, because he would be too tempted to violate his security oath.
	In essence, because I asked the good questions, you know, so in a sense, it was a compliment, you know what I'm saying?
	Yeah yeah yeah I think it's it's I find it really frustrating that it's like someone's the new hot topic so everyone flops to them and then agrees with them and and makes it more um it's very concerning especially for the truth movement because we really need we need to know basically What the truth is, instead of just shadowing and, you know, putting a facade over it.
	We actually, I think people need the respect to know the truth.
	And it's like, it's like secrecy.
	They're always like, oh, it's top secret, or I've signed an NDA, or I can't say this.
	But people really need to know now what's going on.
	Yeah, and I'm, you know, I'm pushing the envelope in that regard.
	You know, I don't know how much you look at my stuff, but at least you read one of my articles.
	You know, I write articles and have been writing now for even since the White Hats hit the scene, you know, and Q and that whole You know, really the truth movement in steroids, in a sense, going back four years.
	And I've been I have been openly critical sometimes of what they do.
	I also compliment them.
	You know, I'm a huge admirer of 107 and Trump, you know, and I love those guys.
	And I love I love any of the military that are going into underground bases and rescuing children.
	And I think there's substantial reasons to believe that is the case.
	But I also think that, you know, people are just accepting a lot of stuff.
	And we also have what maybe wasn't as true 20 years ago as it is now, but we have individuals that have what are called AI sort of overlay on their on them.
	And they're not even necessarily completely human.
	And they're on the circuit.
	And they're also You know, clones and doubles and all this thing going on constantly.
	And so, you know, I think you, yeah, you have to be a lot more wary even than we were back 20 years ago.
	Yeah, I agree.
	I just think you're doing an amazing job and the Pascal interview and the articles that you've been reading.
	I haven't researched you a hundred percent, I'm going to be honest there, but they are the ones that really touched me because you've got balls, basically.
	And that's what we need.
	We need more people with balls that are not afraid to ask the hard questions.
	And just sit there like puppets, like what we're watching with all the other shit that's going on in the world.
	So I really take my hat off to you for all the hard work and the research that you do do.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate that.
	One thing that people also don't know about me is that I was a trained actress and back in the day I studied with A very famous teacher in New York called doing the Sanford Meisner method.
	His name was Robert X Modica.
	And so I was studying acting at night and working during the day.
	And what happens is when you get into the Sanford Meisner method, and this actually had a lot to do with the way I honed my skills as an interviewer, you learn to tell the truth on your feet.
	Like you're in an acting scene with another person, but you have to be as if it's truthful.
	So I take, like when I'm doing an interview, I use those techniques that I learned all those years ago to get the person to feel comfortable, to take them face value.
	I actually take whatever they're going to say As in faith, face value initially, but then as the interview goes on, sometimes I'll do multiple interviews and so I'll get more serious with the person as time goes on.
	But in something like Pascal, where he's out on the circuit and he's actually saying outrageous things like.
	Jews are not, he said they're all aliens and that they should all be killed.
	He didn't participate, you know, he didn't portion out the Satanists.
	He just said all.
	And that's, I told him, he sounds like Hitler.
	I mean, he absolutely does.
	And I never thought I would even be In an environment, in terms of media, where someone would go out and say the things that Hitler was saying back in the day, I just, I can't, I can't believe it.
	And yet people were agreeing with him, and not, not having a problem, and the audience was having a problem with me.
	For asking such a question.
	I mean, they are insane.
	People out there are just insane.
	They're so, they so much desire to hero worship, you know, because that's how they're taught, you know, that's in Hollywood and with Hollywood stars.
	And so anyone on camera, they have a tendency to want to fall in love with them, Or just, you know, adore them, listen to them, you know, have a daddy complex or whatever it is.
	You know, this is insanity.
	This is not what we should be doing.
	This is not the pursuit of truth, okay?
	This is just...
	Very misleading.
	Yeah, the thing that really, it's like he was saying things that people wanted to hear.
	So he starts off with... And maybe there's a lot of anger because Israel is attacking Palestine the way they are, which, you know, I'm no fan of it and I've been very open about that.
	You know, as far as I'm concerned, Israel is committing genocide.
	Now, you can't, obviously, I mean, I can get into that.
	I mean, if you want to get really controversial, I can get into the fact that the AI was operational in Israel, that they were warned a year ahead of time, that they knew exactly what was going to happen.
	They knew the people coming in, and they basically encouraged it.
	It's a satanic blood sacrifice that they took part in.
	Not the regular people on the ground, but their leadership.
	And so Netanyahu and so on.
	And there's a whole new rationale behind the scenes having to do with the Ben-Gurion Canal and the Arab countries that are supporting that and supporting that the Palestinians be pushed out.
	So this is, you know, none of the truth is coming out.
	Most, even my colleagues, don't even touch this stuff when I say stuff like that.
	They don't, they're scared shitless.
	And most of them kiss 107's ass.
	In fact, he only does interviews with people that agree with him.
	I mean, in the most part, and you know, I mean, I could go on and on and be just super controversial here.
	But it is true.
	I mean, I'm telling you that there, you know, things have got to change out there.
	People have got to stop kissing ass.
	And they've got to stop being afraid that they won't be part of the in club.
	Well, we need the truth and nothing else is going to save us, really.
	That's how I feel.
	Well, we need the truth and nothing else is going to save us, really.
	That's right.
	Exactly.
	You know?
	And, yeah, it just, it really flabbergues.
	It gets to me because there's so many things that we could be doing as humanity to change the world so quickly.
	Instead, you know, you've got people sitting there talking about things that we shouldn't be talking about at the moment.
	We should be coming together collectively and thinking about how we can change, how we can go back to our grassroots.
	And I think a lot of it is destructions.
	Um, just to take us off the things that we spiritually have to do and to get humanity back to that, that place that we once were.
	Like, don't get me wrong, there is things happening, but I think a lot of them are distractions to take a lot of people off, off course.
	Right.
	Um, well, I, go ahead.
	I was just saying exactly, you know, I like to remind people, you know, focus what's in front of you.
	You know, first, you got to help yourself before you can help others.
	And, you know, helping others could be involving with the truth and, you know, doing what we're doing here, discussing topics and all that.
	You need to look after yourself before you can look after others.
	And, you know, it's very impressive what you, your history, Gary, and Your experiences, it's very interesting in my perspective.
	You've got a lot of experience in a lot of fields.
	You've been in this game way before this Q movement started and all that.
	What I try to look at is, what's their motive?
	As well, with a lot of these speakers and that.
	What's their end game and their motive?
	What's their outcome?
	We won't find out straight away, but give it time, they will see the truth.
	How long will that take?
	Well, how long's a piece of string?
	So then, what I'm getting here now is that you've been into the extraterrestrial movement.
	How did you find yourself coming into what we're doing now?
	Was it due to COVID?
	Obviously you had known about the deep state and those kind of realms of conspiracy.
	How have you transitioned from then to now from what you've been doing?
	Well, I never changed.
	I mean, the only thing that I did different when COVID came along was start interviewing alternative doctors because I've never been that interested in the health sector.
	So, I had to become like an expert.
	I mean, I did a tremendous amount of investigation to get up to speed on the VACs and had whistleblower testimony behind the scenes, some of which is still cutting edge and most people don't even talk about, you know.
	And so I have to say that I was already talking about the transhuman agenda.
	I mean, you have to understand when I had whistleblowers from Above Top Secret, they were already giving me information about AI years and years ago, you know, 10 years ago, when most people didn't even use the term, you know.
	I mean, so I was already investigating conspiracies of all kinds.
	That's how we talked about our project.
	That's what I said, you know, the best places to hide is out in the open.
	There's a whole testimony on our website.
	If you go back to the older website and see, you know, where we said we weren't going to commit suicide, we would only tell the truth and we would, you know, entertain the truth only for From the witnesses and it's a mixed bag.
	You can't always get a witness who is trying to protect themselves and their family and their loved ones of all kinds to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth, but you can get them to at least tell quite a bit and whatever they choose to tell you.
	And some of that is incredibly cutting edge, and it's still to this day, you can go back 15 years to my interviews, even 19 years, and see testimony that is not out there in a common way even right now.
	I would say that, you know, I was, I never, it wasn't like new to get into the whistleblowing and into the all the, you know, things like AI and the transhuman, I was talking about the transhuman agenda 10 years ago.
	I mean, because this is what we were investigating.
	I was investigating clones and cloning and, You name it.
	I knew about, see I had studied on my own for many years before I was an alternative person, you know, and I was studying, you know, I never go to doctors, ever, ever.
	I mean my life, I don't go to doctors.
	And I don't go, you know, I stay away from Dennis for the most part.
	And I've been very lucky with good health and I did this whole meditation thing where I linked all my chakras when I was in my early 20s and had multiple samadhi experiences.
	And so I lived a very, you know, sort of alternative radical life anyway.
	And in college, I was investigating all the isms.
	So I studied socialism, communism, feminism, you name it.
	And I was writing radical articles for the newspapers back in those days, they didn't have the internet.
	You know, so I, Then when I was really young, I talked back to my teachers.
	I got in trouble for that.
	Then when I was in Hollywood, I talked back to the people I worked for.
	At one point, I talked back to a top producer at Sony Pictures when she was being rude to me and just said whatever I said.
	I don't remember back in the day, but I was in like a pool of a whole bunch of assistants down a hallway and everyone just burst into clapping because nobody would talk back to these people.
	And they could just run over you.
	They would do that regularly.
	Treat people like shit, you know.
	And it's just my, you know, background that I was sort of a rebel, you know, this is my book Rebel Gene that I wrote and you can learn more about me.
	It's right behind me, you know, I'm on that side.
	So anyway, and it's for sale in Amazon and, you know, it gets close to five stars.
	And it's, you know, great people reviewing it and liking it and all that.
	All I'm saying is that this was not new for me to hit a subject, any subject, that is radical, whether it was organ trafficking.
	I had some whistleblowers about that back in China and Tiananmen Square and wherever, whatever the situation was.
	And I love mysteries of all kinds.
	I'm always fascinated.
	So if there's something out there that's controversial and mysterious, I'm on it.
	And the only thing that I was not that interested in was health, and then I had no choice because of COVID.
	And sure enough, once I started interviewing the doctors on COVID is when, up to then, they figured YouTube would let my videos go.
	I could talk about anything because they're all radical outside the field of what was acceptable.
	But they would consider it the giggle factor was fine, so that I could be discredited.
	When I started interviewing alternative doctors, they gave me strikes.
	And that's when my whole channel was taken down.
	So I wasn't attacked until then, in a big way.
	I mean, we were attacked.
	We got death threats and things, but not by YouTube.
	Yeah, that time period was very interesting.
	They were doing all means necessary to shut down all these conspiracies, which leads up to, you know, where are we going with this movement?
	How long is this movement truly going to go?
	How is it going to play out?
	You know, we've got AI on the board, we've got, you know, The 2030 Agenda, in my view, sometimes I sort of sit back and assess what's been going on where we're at.
	Is it moving to 2030 Agenda?
	And we're sort of just being distracted this whole time?
	Meanwhile, they're pushing it?
	I don't know.
	We'll have to find out.
	But, you know, AI is coming through.
	AI is next step.
	We know that because you can't stop technology.
	That's one thing I've learned.
	Growing up is technology always a box.
	We don't go backwards.
	We're not going to go back to a square wheel after we invented the round wheel.
	But how is it going to be controlled?
	Who's going to be controlling it is the big question.
	Well, and for example, I talk about alien AI.
	Okay, so a lot of people are talking about AI, I'm talking about alien AI.
	So we're having battles between various AIs, the ones created by humans and the ones coming in from off planet.
	That are part and parcel of various alien races, who, as Mark Richards says, that any spacefaring race creates an AI to go into outer space.
	So this is what we're also dealing with.
	And, you know, I have tons of testimony about that.
	And, you know, I've been talking about that for years, nobody talks about it except me.
	I mean, this is, you know, the truth is so much more That bizarre than you can even imagine.
	And I think a lot more people are willing to consider that now, but they haven't even caught up yet.
	I just consider that people out there are starting to catch up with the truth, but a lot of them still skirt away like they're afraid.
	Even my colleagues are afraid to talk to me about it.
	People that have me on their shows, they never talk about it.
	They don't ask me about it, that kind of thing.
	Yes, you know, it's like I've heard, you know, when you talk about people mention deep state, well, you know, we, the masses go, alright, so a bunch of people, corrupt people.
	Well, what happens if it's like deep underground entities, or deep space entities?
	You know, that, that's another perspective on how to look at deep state, state as an organization.
	You know, like, With the underground dumbs, well, you know, there's entities down there.
	So it's just all mirrors up with each other in the end.
	Do you see that we are going to get disclosure in the future that we aren't alone?
	That's that's what one of my top yeah I mean I think disclosure is happening all the time and in many ways we have been disclosing you even us in me and Project Camelot and originally with the partner I had and then the whole time running it by myself but um you know I Kept the audience and so there's lots of other people doing it now and saying truths and so on and so forth.
	So I think that it's, like I said, this is a never-ending story.
	Humanity has been dumbed down, has been kept in the dark and fed a lot of shit, as they call it, and basically We've been miseducated in our schools, lied to by the religions.
	That's a big one for me.
	I'm not afraid to go up against mainstream religion, mainstream anything.
	So I think that living lies is actually really unhealthy.
	You know, the truth will set you free, as Jesus said, one of the probably real statements that he ever made.
	And I believe that.
	You know, I've seen it in my own life.
	It's been an incredible galvanizing force for me.
	It makes it worthwhile every day for me to get up and, you know, continue to do shows, continue to be out there on the circuit and all of that.
	Because I just love truth.
	You know, it's just to me, it's just so demotivating factor.
	Yeah, it's like they've tried, you know, they keep us they try to keep us entertained, so we will never revolt.
	You know, they try to put this on to us.
	So then we focus on there without finding truth.
	That's, that's my genuine thoughts on on the whole, the whole movement at the moment.
	Right.
	I mean, I think that We are getting closer and closer to more and more truth all the time.
	And it's not going to be stopped.
	And more and more humans are waking up to the truth.
	And I think that the whole planet is basically being awoken and all the beings on it.
	And It's change is coming.
	Everything is changing and it's going to continue.
	And I don't think they're going to ever have humanity as dumbed down and as completely deceived as they have been up to now.
	So it's been our job to break the ice.
	And I think it's from here on out, it's going to be, you know, get much better.
	And, you know, I can just see that, you know, the truth about especially medicine and the fake so-called experts, doctors and nurses and people that shot people up with this fake vax.
	You know, that was so bad for you and basically causing deaths even to this moment.
	And, you know, pregnant women being shot, you know, and forcing the military to have the shots.
	You know, I just put an article, I was very impressed with Alex Jones's interview with this really fabulous colonel.
	And he, his name is, see if I can get, Gannon, Berk or something like that.
	Gannon, I might have the last name wrong.
	But anyway, it's on my website, so you can see it on the front page.
	But what a fabulous truth teller he is!
	And I love to have him on my show.
	The trouble is, I do get blocked a lot.
	People tell me all my emails go into spam.
	But I really do try hard to, you know, reach people.
	I have colleagues that I, you know, hit up and ask them to help me.
	I help them, they should help me, you know, but it's very difficult.
	People are, you know, military, anybody who's in the military is often told to stay away from me because they don't want them telling too much truth, you know, that kind of thing.
	I think, you know, do you want really your kids, I mean, you're out there lying.
	Let's say you're, you know, a person who knows the truth about certain things and you're going to go to your grave with that truth and know how many people you could have saved or woken up, including your kids.
	Sure, you know, you want to avoid death threats and all of that.
	What's it really worth?
	I mean, do you want your parents to think of you the way I always think about, you know, the Nazis and the people that participated in that?
	What kind of parent did they have?
	Yeah, they might have survived, but is it really, you know, something to be respected?
	Or was that person just a really a go along, get along and as diabolical as Some of the bad players operational then, you know, that kind of thing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So it's a crisis of conscience.
	I think people have to make a decision.
	And you know, you have to stand by it.
	You have to be, you know, I mean, we do have this saying is it's which is the best place to hide is out in the open.
	The reason we say that is because the more famous you get, the less likely they are to knock you off.
	And the more chance you'll also be protected, because they're now of course, we've got a whole movement.
	Called the White Hats, made up of military and ex-military agents, you know, members of agencies behind the scenes, disclosing real truth and also protecting some of us out here that are on the circuit and could be more vulnerable.
	So I know I'm protected.
	I've been protected.
	And I try to do the same for others.
	If I hear something, I try to pass it on to warn people, you know, that kind of thing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I find that at the moment, I'm seeing a lot more people wake up due to the narrative of What you were saying before, the hospital systems and people are starting to question now, those even vaccinated that I do hear of, that they've never felt the same, etc.
	So I think the focus for a lot of us Truthers is to start really pushing that out there, because sure enough, there's going to be something that's coming again, in my opinion, that they're going to try to Vaccinate or whatever they're going to do with this next agenda that they've got planned, especially over in Paris at the Olympics.
	I think that's where something might start.
	But I think it's really important for all of us within the movement to start really questioning those that still sit there and might disagree with you on certain levels, just to make sure you do have all that research and bring forward all those people that Have been affected by the jab or within the hospital system, the protocols that they did use that not many people are speaking about.
	There's not enough people coming forward about the protocols they did use, you know, to kill a lot of people in the hospitals.
	It's more about the vaccines at the moment.
	But I think that would open up Pandora's box to the medical industry and make people start researching and second guessing.
	Right, and I mean, I think some of these mass murderers, who are very well-known people, you know, like obviously Fauci, Gates, so on and so forth, these eugenicists, these people that have been, you know, lying to the public outright, still haven't been taken to task.
	They still haven't been Brought to a courtroom in Nuremberg, whatever kind of courtroom you want to say, and I think that's a tragedy.
	I think that people need to get on that not sit still and make sure that these people are.
	People who have even doctors that knowingly gave a jab you know to people and other people like administrators that tried to force whether it be children or adults at jobs or as I said military I mean these people are culpable okay they are responsible and they have to be Basically put up on charges.
	So I think all of this deception is, it's like been a huge galvanizing force to more and more people to realize that they lost a loved one because someone lied.
	Bottom line.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I would like to touch on, I know, how much time have we got left?
	We've got a couple more How long have you got available, Kerry?
	I just want to touch on one subject that I find... A little more.
	I'm not sure exactly the time, but go ahead.
	Yep.
	So I want to touch on the Wano Saban and JFK Jr.
	thing that you do speak about.
	I absolutely love it.
	I listen and read it and I I am wholeheartedly in agreeance with you on everything that you do say about that.
	And I have searched and looked at photos of Juan and JFK.
	I've put them both aside and looked at the ears and the eyes.
	Do you want to just go into that a little bit, my audience?
	Yes, please.
	Well, I have done this before.
	I mean, so some people might say, you know, why would you out him?
	And I want people understanding him.
	I think he perhaps understands.
	But back in the early days, he was in touch with me.
	I had several phone calls with him back and forth.
	I met him several times at events in person.
	Talked with him face-to-face, and there's two wands.
	There's a Wayne Willett, which is his sort of sidekick and I think even bodyguard, arguably.
	And they both dress up in the same outfit and, you know, with this fat stomach and the beard and the whole, you know, cowboy hat covering half their face.
	And, you know, I mean, it's laughable that people are so stupid.
	In my view.
	I mean, I'm sorry, I'm just going to say it because, you know, I mean, if you can't tell a disguise like that, and it's really like a Santa Claus disguise, he doesn't even try to be like secretive, you know.
	In fact, in the early days, I think he's doing it less now, but he used to go around in his hot cars that were totally John Jr.
	cars, you know, red cars, you know, bright red and beautiful, you know, Maseratis or whatever they were.
	I mean, he, you know, he goes to Mar-a-Lago, he's great friends with Trump, you know, he doesn't really try to hide it all that much.
	It's just that people are so literal.
	And the other thing is his name, it's like, it's right in your face.
	Juan is John, O is Jackie O, and Savin is Savin Hill Library in, you know, I think it was Connecticut or wherever it is, and it, you know, someone told me that.
	I didn't even know about it, but Savin Hill Library is where JFK was honored at that library.
	That's the JFK Library.
	So, Come on, you know, you think 107 is a normal name?
	He made it up, you know, he made it up out of things to say, you know, he's in a sense, he's doing sort of the Camelot thing, I see, which is hiding in plain sight and waiting for the audience to get wise.
	And he will he will out You know, he will lie.
	He will say that he's not him.
	Okay, now, in the early days, he wouldn't even do that.
	Now, he more so got put on the spot by enough people where he has to, you know, say, but his rationale is that he wants to protect his family.
	Which is, see, he survived.
	And I interviewed this wonderful investigator who wrote a book all about the, you know, the plane crash and so on and so forth.
	And that's all on my website.
	And at the end of the interview, I basically said, okay, you're listing all these things that happened.
	I said, can you, you know, honestly say that those can't just substantiate the fact that he was rescued?
	You know, people out in Martha's Vineyard are all protecting him to this day, you know?
	I mean, people just... I don't understand why.
	I don't think I'm that much smarter than everyone else.
	I think it's so obvious.
	And plus, you know, if you go right up to him and if you listen to the way he acts and his voice and all the rich people he knows and all the celebrities he knows, you think it's just some, you know, some guy that has all these connections?
	Are you kidding me?
	This, you know, not only that, but he's an expert on so many subjects.
	I mean, he, You know, he educated himself, like, incredibly.
	I mean, he's like, and I'm told behind the scenes, he's above a general.
	He's a military guy.
	He's military trained.
	So he is also, of course, editor of George Magazine.
	He knows how to handle media.
	So the way he first was introduced or introduced himself to us was, you know, at these Las Vegas sort of cocktail party, where he invited us, you know, so I was invited, I was there, I shook the hand of one of them.
	At that time and I actually saw him and I don't know I just have this psychic intuitive thing and it hit me there was something wrong with his face and you don't like to say that about anybody you know like you didn't but it kept rolling around in my head and I was just there's even a photo of me where I'm sitting on the couch and he's giving a speech and he's just like pretty close to right over there from me
	And I'm thinking, Oh my God, what happened to his face?
	I don't understand it.
	Because I didn't at the time, you know, having masks and hiding like Tom Cruise and Mission Impossible, all that.
	Eddie Murphy and, you know, it didn't.
	But then what happened was, and that was in after right after I met him there, like a month or two went by and it was around April 3rd.
	It was a day when the Schumann Resonance was off the charts, and that night I had non-stop dreams about him, in which he was telling me how he did the disguise, the fact he was J.F.K.
	Jr.
	I mean, it was an incredible dream.
	And that's what turned me around completely.
	That's when I went public and everything.
	And it's all on my website.
	I have all documentation, substantiation.
	I have good photographs.
	What was the name of the book that Alex Jones, with the interview with that man that wrote the book about JFK, Julian?
	I don't know.
	I did an interview with somebody.
	OK.
	Yeah.
	It was my interview.
	And that person's name, I think, is John Corner.
	So I'm going to actually bring up my website.
	I think I can share it here.
	And then if I can find that.
	I really want to read that.
	article quickly enough.
	It's, you know, not always that easy because, you know, I try to repost it now and then because I want people to know, you know, people keep asking me and they don't see.
	I did an interview with John Claude.
	I don't know if you know him, but he's a pretty well-known broadcaster.
	I did one with Nino, you know, talking about this.
	In depth.
	I mean, I just went blow by blow.
	So I've already done in-depth interviews on the subject matter with other broadcasters.
	So you can watch those.
	All you have to do is search like JFK on my site and you'll get all the different things.
	But yeah, I have to find it.
	So it's actually the Patriot Double Down that I think that's the name of the... I'm sort of looking.
	Yeah, so anyway, I'm looking while, if you want to ask me a question while I look, you can.
	No, I've always had that, I've always had that feeling ever since Juan came onto the movement.
	I've always had that feeling and then I've done quite a few interviews with Juan and there's just little... Oh you have?
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, there's little jokes that he does give out and Dale and we'll all sit there after it and go, did you hear that?
	Was he trying to say that for us to research that?
	There's a story in these stories.
	We just have to try and work out what's the story he's trying to produce.
	Well, I mean, you know, like I said, he's hiding in plain sight.
	He and Carolyn did survive and her sister.
	I don't think I mean, I shouldn't probably say this, but I don't think they're together anymore, but he had kids.
	He wants to protect his family.
	You can just look at the photographs, make your own decision.
	Look at this ridiculous outfit.
	I mean, are you serious?
	You don't know that person's in the disguise.
	He's wearing two pairs of pants and I just feel bad for him, you know, and I don't think it's healthy.
	You know, I studied acting very seriously and directing and I don't think playing a part for all these years and being hidden, I think it's a self-sacrifice that's way over the top.
	I think he should come forward.
	I don't think it's healthy for him to be hiding.
	And, you know, I understand there's maybe a liability because the Illuminati are just completely, you know, axe murderers and etc.
	But the reality, he knows I'm doing this, he knows what I've done, you know, all the information I put out there and stuff.
	I love it.
	I don't know, you know, you just have to sort of be so dumb not to get it.
	Yeah, I remember hearing, I'm not sure who it was, One of the other interviewers, Jean, someone, she's into the spiritual stuff and she was saying that she walked up to him and touched his shoulders or touched something and she's like, I could feel padding.
	Like, he's definitely...
	In a disguise.
	And it's so hot and uncomfortable.
	I mean, it just looks horrible.
	I just think he should have come forward a long time ago, but I think he's being held back by the White Hats.
	Yeah.
	I don't know what they're planning, you know, when he, but keep in mind that he's not the only one in hiding.
	So we have lots of celebrities, you know, Michael Jackson, people that, you know, Diana, that I believe is still alive.
	Even Marilyn Monroe might be still alive.
	You know, there are some that are faking it, of course, but there are real ones that have been hiding all this time because they had to get escape the Illuminati.
	And I think, I mean, this is my idea, but I always have said, I think they should just get them all, put them all on a stage and, you know, out them all together.
	That way they aren't going to have too much pressure on one person, you know?
	Well, they do say in the movement, sorry Bec, they do say in the movement, you know, they are going to come back and, you know, the people we think are dead are alive and the ones who are alive are dead.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Like the Biden, he's actually dead.
	Yeah, all these characters and, you know, masked people playing a character.
	See, I find the whole story of JFK A junior Diana and Trump triangle.
	Very fascinating as well.
	Yeah, there's so much information and photos where you can cross, which is exactly what you've just done with JFK.
	The same thing has happened with Princess Di.
	Oh yeah.
	And I agree with you.
	That's probably the best, you know, moving forward is all of them come out at the same time.
	You create a bigger target than a little target.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And it will definitely make people, that's one thing that will make people wake up for goddamn sure, in my opinion, to show the reasons why they had to go into hiding and become their own whistleblower to tell the people, you know, the film industry, this is what happened or, um, Yeah, so on, but I think it's very, very interesting.
	It's one of my favorite topics, to be quite honest.
	Okay, and just let me show you the book.
	This is John Korner's book, and they tried to kill him when he was writing it, even though it was years after the actual event, so-called event, which was in 1999, I think.
	So, this is it, Exploding the Truth, and he really was a good researcher.
	Excellent author and they tried to kill him with this really bizarre form of Agent Orange from Vietnam that like no one gets.
	He gave him this disease and he almost died and then after he recovered he continued writing his book and he went to Martha's Vineyard.
	He hit the ground, you know, he did ground interviews with people in person and stuff.
	So he really substantiates a lot of What could have happened, but he what he doesn't do is cross over to my area, which is basically saying that, look, you got to think about this.
	Okay.
	That when he Jackie was super protective of her kids.
	With good reason.
	And she, you know, they had Secret Service agents protecting them all the time.
	So you have to understand the White Hats were operational back then.
	We have evidence of that.
	They started really escalating their sort of operations after the death of John F. Kennedy, or so-called death, whether he actually died or not, or whether that was another You know, thing where he had a stand in because presidents have doubles, you know, so but whatever.
	Regardless of what version you want to believe, the idea was that the White Hats would have watched over those kids with like hawks, and they definitely would have protected John.
	And when he did George Magazine, he was told he was going to actually right before he was killed, he was bringing out A top journalist who was going to expose how Bush Sr.
	was involved in the killing of JFK, or the attempted assassination of JFK, however you want to look at it.
	So he was right hot on the trail.
	On top of it, he was going to run for
	um you know the senate seat or whatever it was with Hillary behind the scenes and then he had a meeting with Hillary that's very well publicized and known about in which he appeared to be quite shaken after the meeting it was a lunch meeting and rumors started then I mean there's you know I believe he was he was threatened he and they they they were warned and he you know they went they took the navy took the measures to protect them and to save them
	By the way, the Roman Catholics do not bury their dead at sea.
	They don't do that.
	Supposedly the story goes that they had a burial ceremony at sea.
	That would never happen.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No chance.
	Well, we thank you so, so much, Kerry.
	And we would love to have you back to take a deep dive into the ET and then Antarctica and all the important things that you've said.
	We could be here forever.
	Yeah.
	We do know that it is late over your way and we really, yeah, thank you for all the hard work that you have been doing over the Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Thanks, guys.
	Thanks for the interview.
	Thank you so much.
	And yeah, we'll pop the link in for your website and everything.
	We will upload it.
	Thank you.
	Great.
	Take care.

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