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May 24, 2024 - Project Camelot
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SAM CHONG: QUEST TO UNDERSTAND THE ILLUMINATI AND OTHER ETS
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Thank you.
Thank you.
And I guess that's not his real Chinese name, but that's his name in English.
And welcome, Samuel.
It's lovely to have you on the show.
Samuel's going to be talking about I guess a book he read about the Illuminati, but also I guess his other research that he's done.
And also this, I guess it's what you'd call an off-planet race.
I don't know how to pronounce their name.
How do you, how do they?
Theoba.
Theoba?
Okay, however it is.
And they actually read, was it a book you sent me or just a paper?
It's a book that I sent you.
Okay, so I read kind of most of the book.
There it is.
Okay.
And you can hold it up for a minute longer so that people can see, you know, the title and, and stuff.
So we're also going to talk a little bit about that race of beings and why you're particularly interested in them and what they're saying about the world, etc, etc.
So, so welcome to the show.
And it's great to have you here.
Yeah, thank you so much for having me here.
OK, so now-- and I guess we are recording.
OK, so yes.
So Samuel, let's give you some background first.
So you're in America.
And by the way, he was an incredible help to me when I first arrived at the A-Lane event.
That was a show that I spoke at down in Southern California at the well, it was at a hotel and it was the David Farman conference for called alien event.
And that was actually approximately a month ago.
And I was also on a panel there.
And I don't know if it's any of the footage has ever been brought, you know, put out lately, but it was supposed to, they're supposed to put out the footage.
So anyway, he was there.
He was very helpful.
And so that was great.
Go ahead and give us some background about your life and who you are, etc.
Yes, I was born in Beijing, China in 1978.
I came to the United States at the age of 15, first going to San Francisco, then Los Angeles.
I first went to San Francisco and then moved to Los Angeles.
I went to high school at UC Berkeley, took a year of study abroad at London School of Economics, and I got a master's degree from a university in Spain, in Madrid, Spain.
So I speak Spanish.
I became a paralegal and then started to work as a Chinese translator for the court system in the US.
Currently, I have a JD degree and hoping to spread the messages of Okay, so you spent time in Spain going to school?
and to the people around the world.
Yes.
- Okay.
So you spent time in Spain going to school.
- Yes, I did.
- All right, very nice.
All right, so let's kind of launch into this topic now.
There are two books that you're going to kind of talk about.
One is about the Illuminati and the way they operate, and one is again about this alien race or off-planet race.
Let's start with the off-planet race.
I think that would probably be good because Then we can spend a little more time on the Illuminati, which a lot of people have got a huge background on.
It'll be a little more challenging to bring up new information there, but we'll do it, probably.
Do you want to start with the alien race that wrote the book that you just showed us a minute ago?
Yes.
So this book is actually written by a French-Australian called Michel de Marquet.
He was a farmer.
A contactee, in other words, yes.
Yes, contactee.
And by the time I read the book, I had already read so many books of EET contactees.
But this book is specifically interesting because it has a lot of specific, verifiable information, at least to me, That I was able to validate in the future after I read it.
Specifically, it talks about how they were involved in the history of mankind and how and where we all came from and also talks about.
how they were able to kind of intervene.
For example, a lot of the biblical stories in the past, such as the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, the process of Exodus in which Moses took the ancient Hebrews out of Egypt, the birth of Jesus and the resurrection of Christ, and also during World War II, they were directly involved in the revolution of mankind.
And also, it talks about Jesus and Christ being two different beings.
The Jesus who was born out of Virgin Mary was someone who was highly intellectual, having a very deep, profound conversation with the teachers of the temple, but he couldn't perform miracles.
He later went to India.
traveled to China and died in Japan.
So there's a tomb of Jesus in Japan, in Shingo Village, Japan.
And Christ is another being that actually they were directly involved with that was able to perform miracles.
And his mission was to teach people about the importance of spirituality and also reincarnation.
But for some reason, a lot of reasons, the Catholic Church Council meetings China modified the original scriptures in the ancient past and then took the concept of incarnation out from the Bible.
I was able to validate the information about the tomb of Jesus in Japan, and a lot of people actually visited and wrote about the tomb of Jesus in Japan.
That's one specific fact that I was able to validate.
The other facts include the antibacterial effects of yellow light and blue light, in which the ETs used when Michel de Marquet, the author, entered into their spacecraft.
They used yellow light and blue light to disinfect him.
In fact, Harvard Medical School had a study done on the effects of blue light, indicating that it has antibacterial and antiviral effects.
The other fact I was able to validate was the Project Westford that happened in the 1960s in the U.S.
It's mentioned in this book specifically that in the 1960s, they were involved in taking the copper needles out from space.
That the US government sent out in space, hoping to improve the telecommunication signals.
So that's project West Ford with MIT and the US government.
Okay, I have to slow you down a little bit.
So if you can try to articulate a lot because I think it's your accent is quite thick.
It's been a little difficult for people to maybe understand you.
So You're saying there was a project, a satellite project or something, and that MIT was involved?
Is that what you're saying?
So what are you talking about with that?
You said something like needles in space.
What's that about?
So it's a project in which the U.S.
government cooperated or collaborated with MIT, launching hundreds of millions of copper needles into space, hoping that the signals from Earth would bounce back from the needles, so that the signals, the telecommunication signals, would be strengthened.
Okay, so project, what was it called?
Project what?
believing that the needles in space would harm us, they actually collected the needles from space.
So that actually resulted in the failure of the first launch of the U.S. government.
So this is the ETS intervention.
Okay, so project, what was it called, project what?
Westford, W-E-S-T-F-O-R-D.
F-O-R-D.
Yeah, this is directly mentioned in the book that's written in the late 80s.
Okay.
Okay, so let's see what it's saying about that, if we can.
It says a ring of copper, they wanted to put a ring of copper around the earth, and What was the intention since I don't have time to read this article just now, but I'm going to put this on the screen.
And let me say that I'm not a big fan of this book.
I read most of it.
I found some of it to be what I consider to be incorrect, but I want to hear, you know, I think we, you know, want to keep an open mind when you're considering something like of this magnitude.
It's an ET race that is making certain claims, but they're making them through also a person.
So we need to give some background on that contactee too.
But at any rate, this is the project he's referring to.
So I wanted to bring this on the screen here.
So it's a Cold War plan to put a ring of copper around the earth and Here it doesn't actually say needles.
So you're saying there were needles, right?
Is that what you're saying?
Yes, copper needles.
Copper needles.
Okay, so let's see if we can see anything about this here.
And you're saying that this particular ET race interfered with this Yes, they collect the needles from space, making the scientists on Earth believe that their launch was a failure.
Okay, so yeah, it was Walter E. Morrow's idea, and Each copper needle was 1.8 centimeters in length.
I don't know how big that is.
Do you know?
Like in inches or anything?
About one and a half inch.
You don't know?
Okay.
Half an inch or so.
About half an inch?
Okay.
Okay, that's kind of interesting.
So they say they prevented that from happening.
Now I'm going to stop sharing.
Okay.
So, so go ahead with this.
I will say that, you know, eventually, they put metals into chemtrails.
So that this may be a precursor of that.
Do you know, what year was this?
Do you know?
Okay, fair enough.
the Schaldenberg-Kadiator was taken by the ETs?
No, when the copper needles were put in.
That's in the early 60s.
They launched it three times.
The first two times were like a failure.
OK, fair enough.
So OK, so go ahead and continue with regard to-- these are proofs, you're saying proofs that the ETs are real.
And maybe we should back up a little because the contactee who's telling the story, I think it's more important to give a setting so people will be less confused.
Can you tell us briefly, give a bio of the person and how the contact happened?
Yes.
He was born in the 1930s in France, in Normandy, France.
And then he, his name is Michel de Marquet, a French-Australian who later migrated to Australia.
And he lived a very normal life.
He wasn't a writer or a ufologist.
But suddenly, one night, something happened to him.
He woke up in the middle of the night in 1987.
And then he wrote a note to his wife saying that he would be gone for 10 days and there's absolutely no need to worry about him.
And then he walked outside of his house.
He didn't know why, but he walked outside of his house.
And then he was lifted up.
To the middle of the air.
And then he saw everything changed.
His environment changed.
It turned out that he was actually brought into a parallel universe in which he saw a beautiful, tall, like eight or nine foot tall ET being like a Nordic looking ET being wearing a spacesuit.
who took him to a location in the parallel universe where he saw a lot of people wearing medieval clothes, like wearing strange clothes and behaving like in the ancient past.
And then he was explained that this is a parallel universe.
This is like a The space that they use to hide themselves when they come and leave Earth so that the people on Earth wouldn't be able to see them.
And this is also where a lot of the people, missing people, vanishing people in the Bermuda Triangle have gone to.
So, you know, I don't know if you know David Pilatus, who wrote a series of books called Missing 411.
Yes.
He documented a lot of strange circumstances.
Yes, but there's a completely different explanation for where those people end up, which is not in a parallel universe.
But okay, fair enough.
So let's now, what This man then had 10 days with these beings in theory, right?
Yes.
Okay, and even though he went in a parallel universe, the person who was bringing him there was in a space suit, is what you're saying?
Yes, in a space suit.
Why?
I mean, was he in a craft in a space suit or was he just wearing a space suit?
She was wearing a spacesuit just to prevent the bacteria from contaminating her physical body.
Okay, but if she's in a parallel universe, is she worried about the bacteria in that parallel universe, or is she worried about bacteria from her contact from this person, a human?
From this person, from Michelle Dameron.
Yes.
Fair enough.
All right.
So now, in terms of, yes, and then he was shown, okay, if you could summarize, because we don't have time for the whole book, but if you can summarize what she also showed him, and one particular part of it, I think, was showing Pluto.
Wasn't that right?
Was it Pluto?
No, actually, they took him to their planet called Theoba, the golden planet.
Okay.
It is so perfect, just like a paradise.
Yes, right.
They live in a paradise, and they're all perfect, and everything's wonderful there.
And I remember that part, which I highly doubt.
But fair enough.
But I'm sure that they showed Pluto, or a planet, one of our planets.
Yes, Aremo X3, which is a planet that just had a nuclear war.
Yes, okay.
It's not Pluto, it's another one?
It's not Pluto, it's called Aremo X3.
Okay.
Right.
One that we're maybe not aware of.
Is that right?
Right.
Okay, but it's somewhere in the vicinity, I think, of Pluto.
Something like that.
Anyway, so, okay, so now if we could summarize the experiences, like, kind of in a quick overview.
So he was told about the history of mankind.
We all came from different planets, like the Blacks and the Yellows came from a planet called Baccaratini about 1.35 million years ago.
The ancestors of the Polynesians came from the planet Arima X3 about 250,000 years ago.
And the Caucasians came later, and the Jewish people came the latest, about 12,000 years ago, explains about how the Great Pyramid of Egypt was built, and the statues on Easter Island, where they came about, and also talks about the dangers on Earth, number one being money, number two politicians, number three journalists and drugs, number four religions.
Did you say journalists?
Yes, journalists, yes.
Because they report on sensational news, the negative news.
Yes, okay.
Interesting.
All right.
Also, it talks about the effects of colors and noise and sound.
It talks about the human energy field, which is very interesting because after reading this book, I started to do a lot of research on auras, or the human energy field.
I found a lot of very interesting information, like how you can predict Okay, that makes sense.
is going to have cancer or not, how you're able to see if a person is lying or not, how if a person is a psychic or not.
So you can tell a lot of different things just from the colors of the human energy field.
OK, that makes sense.
All right.
But this is not actually doing an overview of what he was shown.
So let's talk about what he was shown a little bit more.
So he was-- Not specifics.
Okay, general, like a general overview.
He was, he was taken to their planet, right, for a while, and he saw how they live and how everything is idyllic.
And then from there, he was shown He was shown scenes or something, or he was shown other planets, or the future of the Earth.
I don't know, future of the Earth.
Actually, he was shown first his past lives.
He had 80 past lives, and they showed him what he was before.
And also, they took him to our past about 14,500 years ago, when the continent of Lemuria was still existing and how the entire continent sunk into the ocean.
So he was shown the Akashic Record, what he would call the psychosphere of what happened in the past.
And then he, the book actually is kind of like a warning to us.
We have to focus more on the spiritual aspect of our lives and not to be too off on the materialistic aspect.
So it is saying that if we don't change our ways, how we live, we're going to be heading a catastrophe.
And also Michel de Marquet personally told me that the world, he was told by the ETs, that the world is actually run by 12 families.
And I asked him, like, who the 12 families are.
He didn't tell me.
He said, I mean, he just... Okay, who told you that?
Who was this that all of a sudden you're talking about?
Well, I, the second time I met Michel Demarcais... Oh, so you met the author?
I met the author.
Oh, all right.
And I asked him, like, what else he knew, but didn't write in a book.
And he said, Tao, the ET, told him that the world is run by 12 families.
Mm-hmm.
Sure, and most people out there, at least my audience, knows that information.
It's confirmed by the ET.
I'm trying to find out who the 12 families are.
You should read the Committee of 300 by John Coleman.
He names them, and David Icke also names them.
It's out there.
You can even Google it.
You know, it's out there.
There's a whole, you can even Google it.
It's not hard to find.
So, okay.
So, but you kind of still haven't answered my question because I'm hoping the audience can be told a little bit more about what was he shown?
So what else was he shown?
So they kind of explained to him the past, and also in terms of the future, he was told that they can see about 100 years ahead.
of us, but they cannot predict what's going to happen more than that.
So it's kind of explaining that the future really depends on our actions.
Our collective consciousness can change the future for the better.
So it's kind of giving him this kind of warning that people on Earth should take attention to the spiritual aspect of our lives.
In a sense, it's not a book of prophecy, it's a book of warnings so that we can change our future for the better.
Okay.
Now, is there a conclusion to the book other than, like, in general, how we can change the fruit?
Yeah, actually, it gives a conclusion.
Actually, it gives a solution in the sense that we can use nonviolent resistance to rise up against tyranny through collective actions.
Because if you really think about it, the wealthy, the financiers, control everything, but they have to rely on slave labor to get more profit themselves.
If we unite and have a collective action using non-violent resistance, then we will lose very little as commoners, like the regular people, but they will lose humongously if we just have a strike.
Okay.
All right.
Fair enough.
and the machine would stop running, they would lose everything.
So they have to cave in to our demands.
So this book is sending us the message that we can unite together and to change the world through nonviolent resistance.
Okay.
All right.
Fair enough.
And is there anything else about the man, you met him in person, that you want to convey?
And was he, I can't remember exactly what went on, but I think they tried to sort of give him some kind of things that they did to his body.
Do you remember that part?
I remember when they disinfected him using yellow light and blue light.
And afterwards, they gave him two medications or drugs in which his astral body left his physical body.
And then they did another cleansing of his physical body.
And then his astro body would float in a spacecraft and would observe what they were doing inside the spacecraft.
And then after a few hours, his astro body rejoins the physical body.
And then that's the process that it took.
They also did a lot of other things, like taking him to what I mentioned, the psychosphere, and they also did what some people would call the Akashic Record, and explaining to him the process of life in which there are nine different categories of planets, and then we are just evolving from the basic level to category one planet.
And then hopefully we can move up the ladder until Category 9.
And then after Category 9, we would join the Great Ether, the creator of the universe.
And that's actually the ultimate destination.
Okay.
And do they say what category their planet is in, according to them?
According to them, they're Category 9 planet.
So they're like college professors giving us guidance and kind of helping us.
Okay.
All right.
So that's the book.
And maybe we'll take questions later on after we're kind of done with this overall interview, or towards the end.
So let's move on to the other book, The Illuminati, that you wanted to talk about.
Right.
Okay, fair enough.
And what is the name, exact name?
Because it's going away for a while.
334,000.
334,000.
Oh.
OK.
So, OK.
And why does this book in particular interest you?
You know, I first found a book when I was researching ways to see auras or the human energy fields.
I found a message in a forum saying that there's a book that's in German language that specifically tells you how you can see auras.
I was very interested and I found that book in German language because I have to read it, so I translated the entire book into English.
It turns out that it's more than the ability to see Auras.
It's more about, actually, the secrets of the Lodge.
Later I found out it's the Illuminati.
It talks about the ancient esoteric knowledge, the rituals that they use, and how they use a special form of astrology, a special form of numerology, to predict the future.
And this is why the Illuminati card game is so accurate, predicting 9-11, Trump, The pandemic and things like that.
So they're able to not only see the past, but also see into the future, and how the organization operates in Europe and also in North America, and how the author, the former highest degree chair,
evolved from being like a normal regular German college student being led into the group the organization moving up the ladder and becoming the highest degree chair of the entire organization that's so secret that that they Like, very few people knew about that, how they really operate.
I know there's some books written about the organization, but this is directly from the highest degree chair, so it got a very unique perspective.
Okay.
And that's the German book you're talking about?
Yes, this is a German book that I translated into English.
Originally, I was kind of hoping just to make it public, and also I thought maybe I should contact the copyright holder of the book, and then ask for permission.
So I sent an email to the publisher, and then Very strangely, I got a response a few weeks later and said it's a very good idea to have the book translated and published in English.
So I got in touch with a copyright holder in the last two years or so, and they kept inviting me to their activities, and I kept resisting them because I was very fearful, you know, deep down in my heart.
Okay, but wait one second, because before you said So did you translate it into English, and is it published in English now?
Yes, I translated it into English, and it's published in English on Amazon.
Okay, and what's the name of the book?
It's 334,000 Oh, it is this book that you're talking about.
Yeah, this is the book.
This is the book you're talking about that was... and you translated it into English.
Yes, into English.
Oh, so that's part of the... okay.
So you have a connection to this book, right?
Because you translated it.
Yeah.
To a degree.
Okay.
And if you look at the title, it's very interesting.
It's 334,000 Lies.
334,000 lies.
If you use one minus that number, it's the, if you reverse it, - Oh yes, yes.
It's the truth of the devil.
That's one of the interpretations of 666.
Actually, 666 also symbolizes money, in case you don't know that, and so on and so forth.
But I appreciate the translation you're talking about.
Now, why, if you're Chinese, did you decide to translate a German book into English?
Why didn't you translate it into Chinese?
Or did you translate it also into Chinese?
I didn't translate into Chinese because I don't think the Chinese audience is ready, because this book is not for the faint of heart.
It has a lot of very detailed descriptions of the rituals that they perform.
It's very disturbing, very graphic.
This is why I don't think the Chinese audience is ready yet.
Oh, that's interesting choice that you are deciding that for the Chinese audience.
Why do you think you know what the Chinese audience is ready for?
Because, you know, I think, you know, I'm Chinese, I know a lot of people from China, what they do, what they think.
They're very ignorant about what's happening around the world.
They are mostly kind of following the propaganda of the government.
They don't have, normally a lot of people don't have independent thinking.
So they just follow the government.
So unfortunately, I don't think they're ready yet.
Okay, that's interesting to hear.
I don't know if that's true, okay, because it's hard to generalize for billions of people, you know, so, but I can appreciate your point of view.
Now, what city, you're from Beijing, is that right?
Yes, I was born in Beijing, from there.
And how long did you stay in Beijing?
For 15 years.
Okay, so you left when you were quite young.
That's right.
Okay.
And is your family here in America?
Yes, my family is here.
And they're not really supporting me to do this.
They're what?
They're not very supportive of me.
They're not?
Of your life, your research or something?
My research and spreading the messages out.
Okay.
What do you have actually a job like that you get paid, you know, a job type thing?
What is that?
I'm a Chinese translator and a certified court interpreter.
So I work with a lot of lawyers and doctors and help them to communicate with people who don't speak English.
Very good.
Okay.
All right.
To get back to the Illuminati book, that's very interesting.
You actually did a translation.
You must know the book very well, right?
I would say I know it probably better than some people.
Than a lot of people, maybe.
Okay, and this group that, is it one author that published the book or is it several, a group, you know?
The copyright holder is a German consulting company, and actually the book talks about the occasions in which their covers were blown by people in Italy and also in the United States, and they were able to cover their traces.
Uh, because they only have, like, one point of contact to the outside.
So if one cow is born, they can just eliminate the point of contact.
Eliminate, meaning kill them?
I don't know what they mean by that.
But if you read the book, you're going to see they're really evil.
They don't have any morals.
They can kill themselves, too.
I mean, they kill others and they kill themselves, too.
Used to be the case.
The book is really, really disturbing.
I just want to warn you all.
Well, all right.
Let me ask you this.
You decided to translate this particular book because it interested you, is that right?
Because you read it or you wanted to read it, but you didn't speak German, did you?
That's right, I don't speak German.
As a translator, I know how to translate using different tools.
So I had a tool in which I used to translate the text in German language into English.
And I was able to proofread it and to do research and to make sure the translation is accurate.
And also the copyright holder themselves proofread my English translation and said it's a good translation.
They also made some minor adjustments too.
Okay, very interesting.
And now, would you consider your Chinese family, you know, your family line, to be involved with the Illuminati in China?
Not really, because my family, my own family and my in-laws' family, they're not into this at all.
But I know from whistleblowers Chinese whistleblowers that some Chinese government leaders are actually members of the Illuminati.
Oh, definitely.
Definitely.
Actually, yes, a very substantial part of the leadership, actually, of China is Illuminati.
All right.
So do other Chinese people In China even, know that you translated this particular book?
Some people, some readers of the Theover Prophecy know about this, but most of them don't, because the Illuminati is still considered like a conspiracy theory in China, and the government has a very strong censorship against any conspiracy theories, sometimes stronger than the U.S.
government.
Wow, alright, okay.
That should change soon.
Okay, so because I'm kind of trying to figure out how it is that you as an individual ended up doing such an unusual thing, you know, translating a German book, being Chinese, translating a German book into English and then, you know, and getting the publishers to publish it or approve it or whatever.
I mean, it's kind of a unique thing to do.
So what can you tell me if you even know why you were drawn to this particular book and why you got involved like that?
You know, I first got into that by researching how to see auras, but I don't think that's an accident because this book is so unique in the sense it really reveals their secret of their abilities to predict the future and see the past, their ability to mind control the politicians, to influence the decisions of the business leaders and how they operate.
And I think, I don't know why, because, you know, seeing so many conflicts in the world really made me want to know more about them, how they operate, so that we can have some kind of counter tactics to prevent the catastrophes from happening in the future.
So this is kind of my My logic kind of want to be the Trojan horse or something like that, and to really prevent the disasters from happening in the future.
Okay.
And you are invited to go and meet with these people, is that right?
Because what you're kind of saying is there's a cover contact, but what you haven't really said is whether one person wrote it or whether it was a group effort.
I understand there's a group behind the book, So one person wrote it.
I believe everything written in the book is true because a lot of the information corroborates with some of the other information that they received or learned about.
And this author became the highest degree chair, actually two degrees higher than the next highest degree.
And then the reason for him to reveal all the secrets is that he actually learned about the essence of life.
After he was able to be buried alive for 40 days.
Just to show those people that he was kind of this kind of omnipotent figure and having this supernatural ability to be better than the rest of them, so that he would be two degrees higher at the next highest level.
And then the reason for him to reveal everything was that he discovered in his later years that there was a younger person who was more powerful Meaning who has more psychic powers than him, trying to overpower him, trying to take over the organization.
There was no way for him to prevent that person from coming to power.
After he was buried alive for 40 days, he learned that everything is about love, and love is the essence of everything.
And he was trying to make the organization have a symbiosis relationship with the rest of the world, meaning that not to create a lot of conflicts, but to coexist with the rest of the world.
But then he saw this younger, more evil person trying to take over him.
He decided to reveal everything so that the organization can be broken apart from within, or be destroyed from within, because he doesn't believe that the police or the Law enforcement agencies would be able to arrest them because they have psychic abilities to make illusions of the police people.
Then it has to be distracted from the scene.
So that's why he decided to reveal the secrets.
Okay.
Fascinating, really.
So, what about this younger person?
Did they become head of that particular order, do you know?
The book doesn't contain the information because the book was published in Germany in the year 2000, and the author of the book disappeared in the summer of 2001.
Meaning that he would no longer be able to control that younger person, and he made himself disappear.
I remember what happened in the fall of 2001.
And then afterwards... You remember?
What do you mean you remember?
Like 9-11 happened.
So right after the author disappeared.
Like what?
Like, he disappeared in the summer of 2001.
Yes.
And then in September 2001, 9-11 happened in the U.S.
So they were kind of causing a lot of conflicts in the world.
Okay.
Now, so he was buried alive for 40 days.
40 days, right?
40 days, yes.
And then presumably was still alive.
Then that was 40 days at least prior to when he left or disappeared in 2001, right?
Well, after he was buried alive for 40 days, he became the 41st degree member or leader of the Illuminati.
And then he led the organization for a few more years.
And then he wrote a book after he discovered he was no longer to overpower the younger person.
Okay, now what?
Do you know his name?
I don't.
You know, it doesn't name names.
Just like, you know, Ronald Bernard, the Dutch banker.
Yes, yes.
Yeah, he never reveals any names.
Sure.
This is something about the Illuminati, they don't name names.
Well, actually, I don't name names either.
You know, when you have a lot of secrets or secret sources, you don't reveal their names, those people.
But I understand that.
So fair enough.
Sometimes people will have a fake name, you know, an assumed name, as they call it, whatever.
So interesting.
Now, You don't really know.
Okay.
So did you learn how to look at auras?
You know, let me just say this.
Okay.
Because a lot of people can see auras.
And aura, seeing an aura, all people can actually see them, but they don't have that in your conscious mind.
So they don't realize they see them, but they do.
And so what you wanted to do was bring it into your conscious mind, technically.
Speaking and did you feel that you achieved that by reading the book?
Not really because it requires a lot of time off from the regular busy world.
I would need to meditate and to go into a seclusive location and to really quiet down my mind and to focus on that and I don't have time to do it.
But the high degree members of the Illuminati, they all have the ability to do it.
So they can see through you and know your past, your future, and things like that.
So this is the kind of people we are against.
Okay.
Well, they claim to.
And that's, you know, not so strange.
I mean, if, well, let me ask you, if you consider yourself to have psychic intuitive abilities, which you do, but do you consider yourself to have them?
In certain aspects, because I'm able to determine what kind of information is kind of authentic and grounded, and what kind of information is true out there, and kind of like, it's just an intuitive ability to pick up certain information.
Okay, so you have a sort of ability that relates to information.
What about the everyday world?
Are you, for example, I consider myself a precog and I have precog dreams that then tell me what's going to happen and it happens.
So do you have that kind of thing or do you have any other paranormal abilities, etc.?
Not that I can Describe.
Sometimes, you know, for example, a person's name would ring true or kind of makes me feel familiar.
For example, your name, Terry Cassidy, is a name that I really, just to tell the truth, that I've been ringing in my ears in the last decade or so.
That's very interesting.
That's very funny.
All right.
That's very interesting.
All right.
Fair enough.
Let's see.
I'm actually going to look at the audience and ask them to ask you questions, because I think that you're covering a lot of ground here.
And I want to make sure that the listeners are, you know, because I kind of spent time with you on and off at this conference.
And, you know, there's a certain communication that happens on a nonverbal level, where I was able to suss out who you were.
We didn't have a lot of time to talk, but I could tell who you were, you know, in that way.
And it's kind of fun to get this information now and bring it to the public.
So I'm asking the audience to put a question mark, if you have a question, behind at the end of your phrase, whatever it is.
And so on.
In the meanwhile, how long has it been since you translated it and then it was published, this book?
About two or three years or so.
Okay.
And during that time, have any one Illuminati members and or Chinese Illuminati and or just Chinese CCP tried to contact you to your knowledge?
No, just the copyright holder of the book, and he has been inviting me to their activities, and actually I had this opportunity to meet with him and the rest of the members, maybe some members, later this year in Germany or in Europe.
And I really want to seek out for your advice and advice of the audience if I should go and if I do what kind of precautions or ideas or suggestions that you may have.
Okay, so if everyone heard that that is his question to the to the audience that he's also asking me and.
Like I told him, I said we could talk off the record about some of my thoughts along those lines, but basically you have spent quite a bit of time around this material.
They may think you're actually a fan or that you, you know, in a sense you're an Illuminati yourself.
What would you say to that?
You know, my goal in life is to really spread the messages of Spirituality is I want to make the world a better world.
And I do see a lot of conflicts are artificially created, either by them or by others.
And I really want to tell them that there are better ways to wake people up and not to really have a Reset or something like that.
I mean, we're all created by the same creator, the Great Aether or God, and we're all created equally as well.
And it's really not fair just to really accumulate a lot of wealth or power just by damaging or hurting others.
And because we're all the same, we're all brothers and sisters, and it's probably better to really follow the teachings of Christ than creating turmoil on Earth.
Okay, wonderful.
And did you start out as a follower?
Were you taught Buddhism, for example, in China?
When did you sort of get familiar with Christ?
Or was your family Christian?
Not really.
In China, we were not allowed to read the Bible.
But after I came here, I went to a church, but I had a lot of issues with the church because it's an organized religion.
I want to learn the esoteric knowledge, what Christ really taught us.
And actually, I think the book, The Theorem of Prophecy, this is actually this book, explains how the Catholic Church Council meetings distorted the original scriptures of the Bible, or the ancient scriptures.
And so I think it's important to have spiritual knowledge to look inside for answers, and not to rely on specific organized religion, or certainly not a government.
Right.
All right.
I don't have any control of this mic.
Someone's talking about, you know, it's hot.
It's kind of bassy, I guess.
Mike, and so it makes it a little more difficult to understand.
So what I'm trying to do here is I'm looking in the chat for questions, you know, question marks after questions that you have based on, and I'm scrolling down looking at the moment, not really, I see a lot of chat.
It's not that easy to scroll through this.
China, okay.
What part of China are you aware of the gorges?
Oh, we just lost your sound.
Hello?
I'm here.
Did anybody say gorges, gorges?
Oh, we just lost your sound.
Hello? - I'm here.
Can you hear? - Oh, I know why.
I was just looking at the video and it's behind.
So the Three Gorges Dam.
How do you say that word?
Gorges?
Three Gorges Dam, yes.
Three Gorges Dam.
Okay, so someone wants to know, are you aware of the Dums?
They mean underground bases in the, you know, under the Gorges Dam.
The bases underneath like they call them they're called dumb deep underground.
I'm not aware of that specific dumps in China, but I know it's been causing a lot of structural damages to that region.
Well, okay.
But, you know, and there are a lot of predictions about it being sort of hit and so on and so forth.
But are you aware of deep underground bases, for example, here in America?
Are you familiar with that concept?
Yes, I'm familiar.
And some ET bases as well underground, right?
Yes, or researchers of ETs down underground.
Okay.
Have you ever met any ETs?
Have you been abducted or contacted?
No, I have not actually.
I don't have any personal encounters with any ETs yet.
Okay.
Would you like to?
I would like to Okay.
Let's see.
I'm going to scroll here and see.
Give me the opportunity to navigate the system and to spread the messages and try my own efforts to wake people up first.
And then I'll meet with them.
Okay.
Let's see.
I'm going to scroll here and see.
Is there anything the average person can do?
I think they mean to see auras.
Yes.
Yeah, I found that through my research of people who can see auras, such as Barbara Brennan, you have to be in nature a lot and to be in a total state of relaxation.
And when you are in that state, you have to focus your mind into your pineal gland and then to Okay.
your kind of intent to see the auras and it's very special skill and takes practice yeah okay um now one of the things about seeing auras as people talk about them at least is to see them in terms of color right yeah But color is actually a filter of its own.
So it's like a translation of what is light, energy, and so on, frequency.
So in a sense, It's its own disguise, if you will, and can be misinterpreted, I'm saying, because color can tend to have emotional, you know, resonance or attachment or triggering effects on the people seeing it.
So, that being the case, I'm just saying that what people may think, even people that think they see auras, are not necessarily seeing the meaning behind them.
They're not necessarily getting the message of that person coming through.
For example, if they see a person and they think they have a green aura, it depends on their frame of reference to what green actually means to them.
And green can be associated with the heart chakra, but it also can have, you know, umpteen other meanings, some of them more occult than others, some more common, you know, knowledge and that sort of thing.
So I just want to say that there's more to this idea of seeing auras than just what you see with your eyes, because the eyes that you're looking with again, have a filtering that goes through the mind, goes through your consciousness.
And so it's just that I think there's, you know, kind of like, it's very interesting when you get into the psychic world and when you want to journey there, You have to look at what you consider to be important.
Some people think it's really important to be able to move an object from A to B with their mind.
It's kind of like a game.
What's his name?
Yuri, this famous psychic.
I think that some of this gets into ego and it gets into a lot of different areas where a person is not necessarily spiritually grounded, if you will.
So I just want to say that about the whole aura seeing thing.
And they have, of course, Carilion, I think it's pronounced Carilion photography, as you know, you know about that, right?
Where they'll photograph your aura, right?
And then you'll see it in living color, so to speak.
Again, associating certain colors with certain things and certain attitudes and certain so and so.
So, I think it's very important to realize that.
At least from my point of view, that we all see auras.
We all see, you know, we see a lot more than we realize we see, but we don't interpret it.
We don't also bring it into the conscious mind as much.
It's more the subconscious knowledge that we take with us.
Why we like somebody, why we don't like them, why we trust them, so and so, right?
Yes.
So I think there's more to this story than that, you know, just the superficial level.
But, um, see why?
I'm not sure.
This is kind of an unusual question.
Why should we read and why?
I don't know if that's really what they meant.
But, um, How do you feel that you have benefited from your books, I guess is sort of putting that in a short phrase.
In short, I can see through the events that are happening around the world and to really know the true causes of the conflicts in the world.
For example, I used to believe 9-11 was just the plants hitting the structure of the building, but we all know it's not true.
It's something like that.
So I really want to find out who is really controlling everything, behind everything, and really what their agenda is.
What their ultimate goal is.
So that's my curiosity.
And I think having this kind of knowledge provides me with a foundation to do additional research.
And it's just my personal curiosity and hoping to make better things for the people in the world.
So that's my... Okay, have you read other esoteric books or books about the Illuminati besides this particular one?
I read some of the books written by Leo Zagami, but I felt that he was just... I want to learn from the top, from the leader of that organization.
I don't know if you have any other recommendations.
I have lots of recommendations, actually.
That'd be great.
Because there is a lot of occult knowledge that is used by the Illuminati that is, for example, in fiction even.
So, you know, so those books, there are famous fiction writers that were schooled, if you will, in Illuminati knowledge.
So they put those, that information into their books.
And, you know, well, I guess the book about, it's called, I forget the author's name right now, but The Holy Mountain.
Have you heard of that book?
No, not yet.
Okay, well, that's one of them.
And also, Herman Hesse, I think, is the author of that book.
I could have that wrong, but perhaps it's been a long time since I talked about that or looked at that.
But there are a lot of books out there, and I would also recommend the work of Alistair Crowley.
Have you looked into the work of Alistair Crowley?
Yes, I know of him, and I should look into his works, too.
Yeah.
Okay, because he wrote, you know, there's several books that he's associated with that I would recommend.
You know, he was a pretty high-ranking Mason Illuminati member, etc.
Very influential as well.
You know that also, what's his name?
The Scientology, the head of Scientology, L. Ron Hubbard, was also very schooled in the Illuminati and the occult.
So the Illuminati information, let's say, is a lot of the basis of Scientology.
I see.
It's a precursor to Scientology, so L. Ron Hubbard kind of put all of the Illuminati information into his version of how to teach people, I think you might say.
And I'm not a fan, so I'm not going to put it in very flowery language.
I have done some interviews, I have some interesting interviews surrounding the L. Ron Hubbard stuff.
So certainly you could look into that as well.
There's also, aside from that, well, Pike, Albert Pike, have you looked into that?
I mean, there's some obvious ones that are out there everyone knows about and talks about, so you can do those as well.
But it doesn't really help necessarily to read it, okay, if you don't understand what you're reading.
So you have to, it's kind of almost like a language, you're a translator, so you would understand this, right?
When you're reading words and the words say, you know, X, Y, Z, They may not actually mean XYZ.
They may mean something completely different, right?
You get that, right?
It's like the Bible.
The Bible is also written that way.
It's written in a way where there are people that like to interpret it literally, to their detriment in many cases.
And it can be applied literally as well.
However, its real meaning is the esoteric meaning, the hidden meaning behind the words.
That's the real meaning in most cases.
And Other people are adding a few.
I think this person is saying Israel Regardi.
I think I might have looked into his work a long time ago as well.
Kenneth Grant, I am not familiar with that person.
Okay, this is a very strange, okay, someone is making a comment I want you to react to.
I don't... It doesn't really make sense, but it says, Mr. Chong doesn't differentiate human body in regard to Asia versus Europe.
What is that?
What are they talking about?
Well, actually, the... Yeah, I mean...
The Asians, I mean the yellows came from... Are you trying to say the Asian body type as opposed to the European body type?
Is that maybe what you, is that, would you say that's what they're asking you?
I, I don't know what... Okay, yeah, it's not a very well-formed question, but I was struck by it.
I don't know why they are saying that.
It's kind of a weird way of talking.
So maybe that person can rephrase their question in a more intelligent and clearer way.
So let's see.
Yeah, I really do think you should move on with your time.
If you don't, you're not interested in our discussion, whoever wrote that, please do leave.
That'd be great.
We don't need any negative energy here.
But so, so as far as this, it's kind of like a quest that you're on, right?
Yes, it is a quest.
Okay.
And when I get the audience at the moment is not asking too many questions.
So I'm going to ask the audience again on your behalf.
So what he is asking the audience is whether he should meet with the Illuminati group that is behind the book.
And by the way, does the book talk about the P2 Lodge at all?
It doesn't name names at all.
It talks about a lodge in Europe.
Well, that's a place.
You know, that's a particular place.
The P2 Lodge is in Southern France.
You know, this is actually, well, when I was invited, they have different locations in Europe.
Sure.
And I don't know if that's one of their locations I'm meeting in.
Okay, your answer is you don't know.
Okay, that's fine.
Another place you can also look into Illuminati information is the Vatican.
So have you looked into the Vatican?
No, I have not.
Because, you know, there's a lawyer called Daniel Sheehan who tried to get access to the Vatican records, but he couldn't.
Uh-huh.
Right?
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't know if you have any insights.
Right.
I'm just saying, well, also, you know, you could, there's, let me see, maybe I'll think of it later, but there's a famous author who wrote a number of books I think he's passed on now, but he wrote a lot about the Vatican.
So I think I would recommend him as well.
He was a priest, I think, or something.
He was associated with them in some way.
All right, so how long have we been going?
Because I'm not sure here.
I think I've kept you on the show for quite a while.
We did start late though.
I want to add one more thing.
It seems that the high degree members of the Illuminati all have this kind of super psychic abilities.
To perform, whether it's black magic or white magic, just like materializing objects, levitation, just to read a person just from the auras and to influence the mind of the people.
Either through the psychic abilities or through manipulation of the language of words.
So this is the kind of people that are making conflicts in the world that I think if we know what we are up against, we will be better prepared.
But in the book, it also talks about two important things.
One is that everyone knows It says no major politician will be elected without their approval.
And the second that what they're mostly afraid of is the collective consciousness of the people, of the mass.
Because no matter how strong The psychic ability that they have or the person, the high degree members have, they're always more afraid of the collective intention of the people, collective intent of the people.
So that's what they're mostly afraid of.
And this is what I'm trying to do, is to wake people up so that we can bring ourselves together to have this kind of collective force against the people that are making troubles.
Sure.
Well, in essence, emphasizing the fact that of the power of the people, and that is, you know, universal.
And it's also that, in a sense, all of these people that are trying to influence us are more afraid of us influencing them.
If we are unified, the more unified we are, the more afraid they are, and the more we can actually change even their thinking.
That also gets into how we can influence AI, you know, and I've got an article on my site that I talk a lot about called The Etheric Influence Over AI, and there's a book, the Radu Cinemar books.
Have you ever read those, by the way?
No, I have not, no.
Okay, I highly recommend those if you're going to try to do your studies, because that is the Romanian secret space program, in essence, and a lot of it is influenced by the Illuminati members, not only in Romania, but in the United States, because the United States has a large role to play
Involved with the Romanian military and secret space program etc and ets etc and all that um and so I think that that would be very
good educational for you and they're wonderful books there's over well there i think there's more like seven or eight but not all of them are translated into english but i i think the first at least the first five are and maybe now six because it takes time for them to translate them into english too much time in my opinion it's like It's not that hard.
I don't know why it takes so much time, but I think that's kind of a blocking situation going on there.
Okay, so I guess this is probably enough for our interview today, but I think it's wonderful that you are doing what you're doing.
I think you need to definitely educate yourself a bit more so that you are less What can I say?
Intimidated by this...
uh sort of group the illuminati you know so that you understand if you can it's kind of like anything the more you understand it that the more you can translate what they're saying into something that makes sense for you take away the mystery you know take away the aura the aura the the you know the misleading characters uh to it then the more it's gonna
Be clear for you, and then you won't be so intimidated by it, you know?
But, of course, you do want to safeguard yourself.
I would say that you probably didn't engage in this work unless you were already quite well protected, not only by your own self, but by entities, maybe hidden entities, maybe Even some of your ancestors, if you want to call them that, or whatever.
Do you have a sense of being protected?
Because you must.
You wouldn't have approached translating that book.
Yes, I do have a sense of protection because, you know, the other book, the E.T.
abduction book by Michel de Marquet, he didn't write some of the things that he learned from his trip into the book.
But he told me that one secret that he didn't put in the book.
If the ETs can see 100 years into the future, then they must have previewed my life.
They wouldn't just give the secret to someone who will be dying in the next few years or so.
That means I would be able to live maybe for a few decades before I die.
So I think in essence, I'm probably able to survive for a few more decades.
But in case I don't come back from the trip, you know what happened to me.
Right.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I wish you well, and if you do decide to go into that endeavor.
So, everyone, thank you for watching, and let's have you back on the show, Sam, if there's something that you come across that you think is really worth talking about and coming on the show to talk about.
Now, if people want to write to you and get in touch with you, how can they do so?
They can find my contact information just by searching my name, Samuel Chong.
Just Google my name or search me, find me on Facebook.
Okay, you think there's that few?
Because a lot of times Chinese names, there's a lot of them, you know, people.
Yeah, I'm the one from Los Angeles, so just put Los Angeles, you'll be able to find me.
All right, so you think they'll be, okay.
All right, do you have a website?
You don't have a website?
I do have a website, Chinasonicona.org.
Chinasonicona.org.
And then you should send me that so that I can put it on the page in case I forget it because I'm not writing it down right now.
Very good.
All right.
So thank you again for being on the show and thank you for sharing with us your investigations.
Thank you.
All right, thanks for watching everyone.
I'll be back actually tomorrow.
This is a very packed week.
I've got a lot going on and I want to see if I can tell you who I'm supposed to be talking to tomorrow.
Yeah, tomorrow is Scott Perez, the scientist, and I've interviewed him a couple times and He's got more information he wants to share.
He's a fascinating man.
He's an expert on DNA and the artificial intelligence side of DNA and so on.
And he's done a lot of work in the laboratory, I guess you might say, on that.
And we have some pretty interesting discussions, even offline via text.
So we decided to bring some of those topics up tomorrow.
So, around the same time, I'll be talking to him tomorrow.
All right.
Thank you, Samuel.
You take care, and thank you again for your help at the conference.
And, you know, please do stay in touch with me, and I'll try to remember some of the stuff I said I'd talk to you about, and we can have an off-the-line conversation.
Okay?
Yeah, great.
That's good.
All right.
Okay.
Take care, and thanks everyone.
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