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May 23, 2024 - Project Camelot

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KERRY INTERVIEWED BY JESSE HAL: WHITE HATS, ALIENS AND CAMELOT

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Welcome everybody here back to The Missing Link.
	Today we're excited and honored to talk with the CEO and founder of Project Camelot.
	She's a documentary filmmaker, investigative journalist, and well-known host of Project Camelot TV broadcasting with live shows weekly and coming back here for the second time.
	Welcome back Carrie Cassidy.
	How are you doing today sister?
	All good so uh maybe you can start off with just telling us a little bit about yourself and your journey um you know kind of brief we had kind of in depth the first time you were on the Missing Link and people could go back and check that but you know just for the new subscribers and anybody that maybe haven't heard you know you you know your story yet if you could maybe just give a brief overview.
	Okay, yeah, sure.
	And am I loud enough or not too loud?
	You're perfect.
	Okay.
	So, well, I picked up a consumer grade camcorder back in, well, 2005.
	So I've been doing this for nearly 20 years.
	And Basically decided to make a UFO documentary to because I reached I was working in Hollywood trying to pitch, you know, independent film projects and was reaching a glass ceiling old boys network and really couldn't get beyond it.
	And so even though I had some very good contacts and things.
	And so I decided to pick up a consumer grade camcorder and just I taught myself filmmaking.
	I was going to film school before that but I taught myself editing and just started.
	Actually I did a couple interviews.
	One was with Robert Salas, who is a whistleblower that was reporting on the Minutemen missiles that were turned on by alien ships, and he was in the installation underground at the time when it happened.
	He happened to live in the California area near where I was living, so I went over to his home and interviewed him.
	That was one of my first interviews.
	Another series of interviews I did in the early days were some very well-known people that were speaking at a Hollywood UFO conference.
	And I attended that.
	And then during the breaks, I started asking the speakers.
	I decided to make a small documentary on my own.
	And I was going to make... I actually did make it.
	It's a documentary short.
	It's actually on my website, you know, in the videos there if you want to watch it.
	I interviewed people that were well-known on the circuit at the time, Jim Mars, Richard Dolan, Stephen Bassett, some very good people, and put together a small documentary at that time.
	So then I ran into a person that I interviewed called Bill Ryan.
	He was representing the Serpo.org project as a webmaster who was basically collating a lot of intelligence information that came from a whistleblower.
	I think that was called anonymous or something.
	And so it was put together by this guy named Victor and we were invited to be sort of participants in the audience.
	And that's how I met Bill.
	I actually went to a conference and met Bill Ryan in person.
	That's where we kind of hit it off.
	around November of 2005.
	And then in January or February of, I think maybe February of 2006, I actually went to a conference and met Bill Ryan in person.
	That's where we kind of hit it off.
	And then from there, I actually had a small inheritance from my mother passing away.
	And I flew to England and went on tour the sites of where Atlantis and signs of Atlantis were in Egypt with Jordan Maxwell and William Henry, who led a tour back in those days.
	And then after that, I flew to England.
	met Bill Ryan at Tintagel, which is one of the former homes of King Arthur.
	And this is where we got the idea to team up our stuff.
	He was, like I say, a webmaster and actually, at the time, he was an executive coach in Britain.
	And And so he was also very interested in disclosure.
	We both were passionate about disclosure.
	So we decided to put our skill sets together and create Project Camelot.
	And we named it Project Camelot at that point.
	We didn't know that there was actually a secret government, I don't know, social exercise or something called Project Camelot already.
	But because we just made up, see we had to say something Camelot because we wanted to name it after King Arthur's Camelot.
	And all the various Camelot names were taken on the web.
	You know, you need a website address that's unique.
	So that's when I also had been working as an independent contractor after I left Hollywood at Jet Propulsion Lab.
	And I was writing screenplays on my lunch hour.
	And I was writing a screenplay called Project Moondust.
	And so I thought of the idea of having Camelot called Project.
	So that's when we gave it the name and we got the URL for projectcamelot.org.
	We never were able to get the projectcamelot.com URL.
	Someone owns it even to this day.
	And we eventually I have other URLs which is projectcamelotportal.com but I still have projectcamelot.org and I also have projectcamelot.tv at this time.
	That's awesome.
	And, you know, here on The Missing Link, you know, we are open to talking about all kinds of things like extraterrestrials and, you know, whatever it is that people want to discuss when they come here.
	I'm just wondering, why do you think some hosts shy away from this topic and discussion when you may bring it up with them?
	Well, even the White Hats have told me to my face that they didn't want me to talk about aliens or ETs during this time when they're trying to win back the White House for Trump, even though he is technically the CIC and the commander-in-chief, in other words, and president.
	He still is, in spite of the fact that people think that Biden's the president.
	Biden is Was voted in by Congress, but that was against the evidence that the secret intelligence agencies that we have had all basically eventually came to the conclusion that there was interference in our election of 2020.
	At that point, the military stepped in and reconfirmed Trump as this commander-in-chief.
	And that was in March of 2021.
	Biden was actually dead when he was sworn in.
	And that's why the swearing in and the whole ceremony was a funeral.
	And to see all of that and learn all of that, you have to go into the work of Derek Johnson who really explains it very well.
	Although other people like Jan Halper Hayes has, has talked about this.
	And there are other people on the circuit that have talked about this.
	So it's well known in insider circles that Trump is still our president and CIC.
	But the question is, if he's going to be officially for the American public on mainstream news.
	And this is where their sort of push comes to shove and they're worried about some kind of civil war.
	So this is why it hasn't been formally announced.
	But behind the scenes for the last four years, this is the status of what we've got going on.
	Actually, I don't know if I'm answering the question that you asked me, though.
	I was just wondering why the host, like, you know, would shy away from talking about ETs.
	I know you mentioned that the White Hats have told you not to talk about it and it seems like you're not listening because you seem to be sharing where you can about some of these extraterrestrials.
	Well, I didn't do what I was told.
	Basically, that's kind of the way I am.
	I don't really take orders.
	I'm a civilian.
	I don't have to take orders, even though the White Hats are a military organization.
	I did offer to join them, but they wouldn't let me join.
	Juan said it was too late and whatever other excuses they have.
	So, at any rate, yeah.
	He also told Simon Parks that.
	Simon Parks, if you know who he is, has a background as saying that he has a mantid mother and at one point he thought he had a reptilian father and now I think he might have backed off that.
	I don't know.
	He was also told.
	He's actually signed a deal, however, with the White Hats and represents them in certain things to do with his connecting consciousness and med beds, I think, in the future.
	Now, a few brave, you know, hosts out there like SG Anon talk about, you know, the beginning or the origins of humanity.
	I was just wondering, what could you share with us?
	What do you know about where our origins here on Earth and, you know, you know, kind of the universe, you know, started?
	Well, I mean, that's a tall order.
	First of all, it didn't start with the Bible, but the Bible actually is late to the game.
	And what I rely on is the Guardian information that comes from Ashiana Dean, and I have all that, her Voyager books, which are on the front page of my Project Camelot portal.com.
	If you scroll down, you can find those books.
	And so I can tell you that even before the Anunnaki, who were the gods of the Bible, a lot of times when they talk about God or gods or, you know, so on, they're actually talking about so on, they're actually talking about a vindictive God of the Bible, which is the Anunnaki.
	This is not obviously the creator, the God of everything, who wouldn't be vindictive, clearly.
	There's a discrepancy there.
	I know that SG Anon was born up, you know, born and raised in a very religious family.
	I was not.
	However, I was kind of unique in that way.
	My parents, my father would not go to church and my mother went to Stanford University and was, I guess, you know, she studied psychology and she wanted us to have the most Widely understood idea of spirituality.
	So as a young girl, I went with her to churches and temples to see what would be the best place for the rest of my, I had a brother and two sisters, for us to become educated in that sense of a religion.
	And we landed on Unitarianism, which is a kind of It's the most, I don't know what you would call it, left-leaning, basically religious division of Christianity.
	However, we didn't last long there.
	None of us liked it, and so we all left.
	But the first thing I learned then, and I was like 12 years old, was about Nefertiti and Akhenaten.
	For some reason, that made a big impression on me.
	I remembered, I guess, a past life there.
	And eventually, now I tour.
	I lead tours in Egypt.
	So I have a past life recall of the time of Nefertiti and Akhnaten.
	And I've gone there now in person, and I know why.
	I had the reaction that I did when I was a kid.
	So yeah, so the origins of humanity go back way before that, and we're talking about the visitation on Earth of various ET races and of humanity itself, which started actually, as Bob Dean would say, we come from the stars and we'll return to the stars.
	So we did not originate, this human genome did not originate on Earth, and it has also been interfered with over and over again by the visitation of various ET races, off-planet races, and probably inter-Earth races, and that they have contributed their DNA to our mixture of DNA.
	So, now we are very much a hybrid race in terms of our being here.
	But the main humanoids and humans come from Lyra, the system of Lyra.
	And some of us have Pleiadian, more Pleiadian than others.
	Some have, you know, they're the lion beings, you know, Leonid, and all the various kinds of beings that come here and have been here through the centuries.
	It's very different than the story in the Bible, which is a lot of that is symbolic.
	It's analogies to the truth.
	You know, for example, the idea that Adam and Eve
	with the serpent is actually a DNA story translated like for a child uh... and that's what most religious I guess right people tend to believe which it's just a fantasy it's nothing to do with what really happened so uh... but what did happen in part of that is that reptilians at a certain point so all the different seedings were like the sixth seeding on earth of uh... humanity as I recall and so
	What happened was that we would be invaded by visiting ET races during that time, and then they would, you know, interfere with us, have sex with the women, do genetic engineering on us, and so on and so forth.
	But in order to get us to defend ourselves, because we kept dying off, I guess, they asked the reptilians to contribute some reptilian DNA to our genome.
	And that is what happened.
	And so that's when we became more aggressive, more able to defend ourselves, etc.
	When you say that, you know, the God of the Bible is the Anunnaki, does that mean that most scriptures, whether it's the three Abrahamic religions, you know, get their stories from the Sumerian tablets?
	Well, you might say they should, but they don't.
	So they get some of that.
	It's like an amalgamation.
	You know, there's the Council of Nicaea that basically entered in and rewrote the books of the Bible to suit a certain male-dominated paradigm that they were involved in.
	And it's also what you might know of as the Luciferian Satanic Um, what was called rebellion or, you know, that, that situation, the alliance.
	Uh, so that's a negative group of negative ET races that interfered with humanity.
	And that is especially notable during the time of Sumer and especially with the Anunnaki who are depicted in the Bible on the walls of the temples in Egypt and also in Iran and Iraq.
	They're humanoid, but sometimes they appear as reptilians.
	Sometimes they're half and half.
	So what happened with the Anunnaki is that they come from Nibiru, but they actually originally were Pleiadian.
	They were invaded by the reptilians in Draco, and they were turned into a hybrid race of reptilian-humanoid.
	So that's what the Anunnaki actually are.
	And if you read, like, the translations of the Sumerian tablets, you see that their idea was that either humans should worship them as gods, but I think for the humans, they misinterpreted that to be that they were god.
	So there's, like, always this confusion out there as to, you know, who are the gods and all that kind of thing.
	The bottom line is that the God of the Jewish religion is vindictive.
	You can just read about, you know, if you get the description, He acts like a human, you know, with sort of positive and negative attributes.
	And any so-called, I mean, we're not talking about the Creator when we're talking about something, someone that wants you to bow down to them.
	Get on your knees, pay homage, worship.
	All of these concepts are Illuminati negative ET takeover concepts.
	And this is how the human race was basically taken over and subdued.
	I've heard that there's supposed to be 777 scriptures, books in the Bible, and they've only given us 66, so that means there's 711 that have been taken out, like Enoch and Jasher and the Apocryphas and all these things.
	Is the 777 true, and will humanity Um, be made, uh, public, you know, all the missing, you know, uh, books of the scriptures that was written over the years.
	Well, I don't know, okay?
	I'm not an expert on the 77 books that you're talking about that are, I guess you might be saying, missing.
	I mean, at one point the Nag Hammadi scrolls were found in Egypt that have a lot to do with the Gnostic sort of side of the religion.
	And may tend to be a little closer to the truth, to the actual Bible, but, you know, this is perhaps not been fully decided.
	The trouble is that there's a lot of secrecy.
	What has been so-called found, what's, again, these books are not, the idea is back in the day, Whether you want to believe that, for example, the books of the Bible were dictated and who they were dictated by.
	So some portions of it are supposed to be quotes from Jesus Christ and That may or may not be accurate.
	I mean you can kind of look at our times and look at anybody who pretends to be in touch with God or the gods or ET races or you can appreciate that.
	So Where those books come from, how accurate they are, whether they are also just more falsity or whether they contain more truth and weren't as distorted as the Bible became, I don't know.
	But it's Understanding humanity, understanding the game here, understanding that early on our planet was taken over and continues to be taken over.
	We're still fighting this same group or group of races.
	And probably more.
	Now we're fighting also for our survival with AI, by the way.
	So this is, you know, an ongoing saga.
	But as far as those 700 X books or whatever of the Bible, I can't even begin to wonder, you know, to know whether they're real or fake or, you know, what I mean, the Vatican is lying to you.
	The Vatican is run by the reptilians underneath it, and always has been.
	The Pope is a reptilian.
	This is, you know, this is known, this is obvious.
	If you study the architecture of the Vatican, if you're psychic at all, you will see that.
	I mean, when I go to the Vatican, I feel ill in Vatican Square.
	I just instantly feel ill because the reptilian presence is so pervasive there.
	It's just insane.
	Wow, yeah, and the fascinating part about the 711 books, they made a store called 7-Eleven, and I'm wondering if that has to do, you know, they tell us all these weird things, but Linda Winger from our Facebook, she's got a question.
	She says, please ask her if she knows or believes Klaus Schwab's slob has already been executed.
	People are posting today that he has stepped down, I believe, already executed.
	What's your thoughts on that?
	Yes.
	So there are different people that are revealing executions, military tribunals carried out by the White Hats.
	And we can't know for certain because there are different people that are putting this information out.
	One of those people is what we call the real police Chief of Police.
	He was the Chief of Police for Colorado.
	I have interviewed him and there's somebody faking him, so you have to make sure you go to the right place.
	But he has a website, it's called buymeacoffee.com and that's his real website.
	So on that website, he releases to people that pay $5 a month, all of the executions, the current executions that he's aware of.
	He has contacts.
	One of those people is Alex Collier, in case you are familiar with him, who are consulting him sources and so on.
	So he's one person saying these kinds of things.
	There SG Anon also tends to talk a little bit about the people who have been already executed.
	So there are a few other disclosers out there on Telegram, in particular, often has channels that will tell you this.
	If you talk to 107, he denies it.
	But It's kind of understandable because they're not ready for mainstream or even even the alternative sector to know for sure, other than the fact that Biden is a puppet.
	I think everyone knows now that Biden is played by an actor.
	Apparently he's been played by four actors in the last four years, but this one is Arthur Roberts.
	I think they go by that name, that person.
	And they're wearing a mask, and the mask is really obvious, and so on.
	So Biden is known to be dead by more people, I think.
	Klaus Schwab is, you know, maybe another secondary level.
	I mean, certainly Hillary, Even Obama, Michael, which is, you know, the partner, the man partner of Obama, these people are dead.
	Supposedly, they're being replaced by actors or clones, actors in disguise as doubles.
	And, you know, presidents have always had doubles.
	So this is not so radically different, but it's different in this sense that Supposedly, there's a cloning center under the Guantanamo, and this is talked about a lot by Donald Marshall.
	If you know who Donald Marshall is, he's now written a book that's getting a lot of notice.
	But he reported about the cloning centers early on, and then there are other people that had been reporting those as well.
	So it's very highly likely that they do exist, the cloning centers, and that some of these people are clones now.
	And there's a lot of them that actually were executed apparently, as part of the tribunals that have been going on behind the scenes again, offshore, maybe off, not not in here in the United States.
	So I think there's there's reason to believe some of this.
	I understand that.
	I guess it's Pascal Najadi is talking a lot about Klaus Schwab having been executed.
	His father was partners with Klaus Schwab back in the day.
	So he comes from an Illuminati family.
	But apparently his father broke with Klaus Schwab at some point.
	And Najati himself has broke with that tradition and is following the White Hats, as you may know.
	So he's another person saying some people are dead and others are clones and so on.
	Lonnie from our YouTube channel says, does she think that it's possible that we too might have that same reptilian DNA within us as well?
	Because if you look at our skin... I'm sure the entire human race has some reptilian DNA.
	As I say, in order to protect itself, that became part of our genome.
	But what happened was the blue bloods, what we call the blue bloods, and the so-called titans of industry, the elite, have more reptilian DNA.
	This is why they tend to rise to the top in our society, because they're more aggressive.
	This is part of their genome, the reptilian genome.
	So yes, we have, I mean, there's a part of our brain that's called the reptilian part.
	I don't know if that's exactly correct in terms of the genome itself.
	But the understanding is that they all of us have some, in fact, We, at this time, I think we also have a lot of, some of us have Anunnaki DNA as well, and they are part reptilian anyway.
	But, so there's a whole Enki, Enlil, and I wrote my book, Rebel Gene, which is right behind me here, the cover, which talks about, I named it Rebel Gene on purpose because you have genetics that allows you to rebel.
	And to be have a proclivity like since childhood.
	I was always a rebel my entire life.
	And some people are what you call more like, they were under Enlil, and they obey orders more readily.
	And they're called, you know, administrators, and that they come from so The Enlil, Enki supposedly was in charge of Africa and with Inanna and the Middle East was under Enlil.
	So it's a different kind of, it doesn't mean you don't have the rebel gene, it just means you're not actualizing it, you haven't activated it, if you aren't rebellious by nature.
	I just came in with a very rebellious character.
	I used to talk back to my parents, teachers, you name it.
	Yeah, I kind of did the same.
	I've heard someone say that sin is self-induced narcissism.
	Some people say that, you know, the people that run to the top of corporations, politicals, are very narcissistic in nature.
	Do you think narcissism could be, you know, kind of that reptilian type of, you know, gene that, you know, that takes people to these top of these CEOs, politics and all these other places?
	Do you think that that could be called, like, maybe a narcissistic trait?
	Well, I can say that if you study reptilians and you see that they have a hierarchical structure, They are a top down organization.
	And that's how they're raised.
	They're raised to be subordinate to bow down to their, you know, higher levels in their society.
	As far as narcissism goes, it's kind of in the eyes of the beholder more than in the person.
	So as far as I can see, so Yes, if you're a reptilian, you know, you're relying on the reptilian side of the genome and you manifest that and that's more in your bloodline, then you would tend to also at the same time consider yourself elite.
	You consider yourself They place themselves in a power position.
	So all human relations, at least on our planet at this time, are power politics, men, women, children, adults, etc, etc.
	So if you study that, you'll see that there's a actually a through line.
	of subordination that goes all the way through our the various cultures and so on.
	And of course, at this time where we have a very male dominated, sort of societal structure, there was a time they say in the distant past when it was matriarchal, and then they would have been the dominating species, you know, at the top of the food chain, so to speak.
	In theory.
	And so at this time, we're trying to balance, come into balance, if you will, between male and female.
	And that's where you see a lot of the sexual rebellion and changing roles and trans stuff and all that.
	But the bottom line is society on earth, is mirroring their masters, so to speak, the races that dominate us and keep this as a kind of a prison planet.
	And so because the Anunnaki came here and had that in their genome, that's what they passed on.
	And then they assigned, you know, they were like kingmakers, you could say, they chose the ones with the same kind of DNA structure, the bloodlines,
	that were closest to theirs with the dominating reptilian genes to run society for them in essence and that's going on to this day so it became a self-selective society we call them sort of a bucket term Illuminati and but there are different levels there's a guy named
	And Coleman, who wrote a book called The Committee of, I think it's Committee of 300, whatever it's called, John Coleman, I think is his name.
	And you can read that book.
	It's got a, you know, the bloodline goes through the various bloodlines, the bankers, the royals, and so and so forth.
	So, yes, I mean, if you want to call that narcissism, you can, but that's kind of a superficial term that is harking back again to a hierarchical society structure that comes from a long line of this kind of descending from this kind of a power structure.
	And so, of course, the people on top think they're supposed to be there or They're actually taught that they are, you know, they're ruling by the divine right of kings.
	So these are all rationales that they were taught by the Anunnaki and then carried on from there.
	And this is very dominant in all kinds of aspects of society.
	In fact, part of the problem with the Israelis, the Kazarian Jewish group, is that they are, they came from that kind of power structure.
	And so they also were associated with human sacrifice, sacrifice of children, Blood drinking, etc.
	So those are ancient cults that were part of the Khazarians, and some of the Jewish people are direct descendants from that.
	And their leaders, as well as the rabbis, by the way, and the Torah, I think it's called, and other books that they rely on, speak in very elitist terms of how they are You know, the chosen people and you know, that's they're chosen by the Anunnaki, not God.
	So the Anunnaki chose them, because their genome most closely, you know, relates to the Anunnaki genome.
	Yeah, I've heard a rabbi actually talk to his people and saying that we were brought here from somewhere else to take over this place.
	This was a rabbi that was talking to his people, like, you know, telling them that they're not from here and that they came here to take over.
	And that was his sermon that he was saying to his people.
	It's just that what he didn't tell you is that all humans were brought here.
	So, you know, like I said, we come from Lyra, the Lyra galaxy, and so there's this, you know, so, so it's, you know, they're always selective about the way they talk about themselves and what's going on.
	I mean, eventually, all this information that I'm putting out here is going to be very commonly known.
	Religions will be Hopefully go by the wayside because they are kind of like, I think of them as religions were training wheels for humans from the point of view of their, again, their masters wanting them to obey, follow orders, etc, etc.
	So it's a whole control system.
	And so is our education system, so is our You know, the whole job rising up through the ranks in various industries and so on and so forth.
	If you look at all the relationships, you will see a power relationship operational.
	And this is also takes place between men and women, by the way, that, you know, there is a difficulty that a lot of men have with women that really are their equals.
	And there are plenty of them.
	And so they tend to want to, you know, mimic the power relationship that is part of the elite group, in which the man is dominating, because this is, again, a male dominating paradigm that is sort of in control of Earth at this time, but it's an illusion.
	And so on.
	So what you see is you'll get a woman who is with a man who will purposely bond with a woman who is less educated, less challenging, and so on and so forth.
	You know, it's a typical kind of thing.
	And it also has to do with the age issue.
	So why men gravitate towards young women, and the younger the better, because Again, they can be the dominating, all-knowing person in relation to the other.
	It permeates our society in so many levels, especially in the job world, in industry and business.
	You'll see the people that rise to the top ranks are men that Play the game, you know, that kiss the asses, so to speak.
	I mean, this is true of generals as well in the military.
	It goes through every aspect of our society.
	If you don't agree, if you tend to rebel, if you are too much of an individualist, they actually shunt you to the exterior, to the fringe.
	And it's a very careful process.
	I've been exposed to it many times working in Hollywood.
	Hollywood is extremely male-dominated, even to this day.
	Yeah, for sure.
	And most people that, you know, question or don't, you know, want to, you know, obey orders seem to be more of the lone wolves that are out there.
	They end up, you know, finding their end of path.
	And as you mentioned, you know, those, you know, kiss assers, you know, on their knees, that's a Kamala Harris type of person that gets to where she gets, you know, because of her brains, but I'm sure because of, you know, what she, you know, provided the services she provided for them.
	But, uh, You mentioned the bloodlines, and I'm an AB negative, which is some of the rarer of the bloodlines here.
	Key Petra from our Rumble channel says, if you have negative blood type, does that mean you have a lot of reptilian in you?
	Actually, I don't know.
	I think, to some degree, bloodlines and all of that is shrouded in mystery on purpose.
	So, I wouldn't presume to know which bloodlines are which.
	I'm sure that scientists would try to tell you one way or another, but I think even that would be misguiding you because I think that there's There's a lot more to it than what we understand in terms of the genome.
	So I don't subscribe to some of these ideas.
	And I can tell you one thing is that there is no so-called pure bloodlines at all.
	And the reptilian, the beings with more reptilian consider themselves pure, but they're more pure reptilian, not human.
	Human is, again, it's actually, it's really a hybrid race.
	And not only that, but we are an engineered race.
	So everything about us is, has been intelligently designed, let's put it that way.
	And that many of the ET races and You know, on and off the planet have had a hand in our design of this body is what I mean.
	Now, we are souls that are occupying a body and human in this incarnation, but our other incarnations may be, you know, you could be a reptilian in another life and, you know, and all time and space are simultaneous.
	So understanding that what you think of as a timeline that goes from A to B is actually simultaneous and Native Americans know this intuitively, as well as lots of indigenous races.
	For some reason, that knowledge survived.
	That time and space are one.
	And again, scientists now would acknowledge that as well.
	Well, you just read my mind because I'm going to ask you about Native Americans.
	And, you know, are they, you know, as well as these hybrids?
	Because I know some of these royals, they were the most coveted of bloods, but keeping them down.
	Richard French here from our Facebook says, what does your guest think of American natives?
	And would it not make sense for the Cowboys and Indians to rise up together?
	Well, I can say that, you know, again, we're talking going back again, I think that the, I am very impressed by the Ashyana Deen Voyager books.
	I think even when you try to read them, they're very difficult to get through.
	But once you kind of get into the sense of them, you start to see the constant interactions between various races coming to the planet.
	interfering with our genome, adding their DNA, giving twists and turns to what we've become at this late date.
	And so I think that even Native American races, first of all, one thing that I think they've found over the time is that they actually are related.
	So they may appear to be, you know, the aborigines over here, and the Native Americans over here, and then the Native Americans are related to Also, the Aztecs and the Maya in South America, and it goes like that.
	So, and there's also reason to believe that all the land masses were one at one point through the centuries and began to drift apart.
	And you will see, that's why you get the same stories in the various, you know, indigenous peoples and so on.
	And they were also being visited.
	Some may have more DNA from one particular ET group that interacted more definitely or specifically with that particular genome or group genome, you know, in like the Hawaiian Islands or wherever it happened to be, if you understand.
	So it's a saga.
	It's an incredible saga.
	And So, you know, she covers it in great depth.
	Now, it's not coming from her.
	She is downloading the information from a group of races that are called the Guardians.
	And the Guardians claim to be our sort of guardians, safeguarding this, they call it, you know, the human experiment here on Earth.
	So you can also have, you know, we have lots of, even scientists admit that we have billions of human Inhabitable places where human type races could be.
	However, those humans will have different concentrations of different ET races again.
	So we may not be so close to them just because they are a kind of human.
	And human is actually a word meaning man of many hues, many colors, man of many colors.
	So Even in the name that we're given as to what we are supposed to be is a hybrid race.
	So I think the more you get into that and understand that, the less elitism there would be when people really understood what we're talking about.
	We've interviewed Dr. Kent Hovind a few times, and he was talking about that at one point we had, he thinks it's only 6,000 years, so obviously that a little bit differs from other people's views, but he was saying that, you know, the waters above us before this great flood, They made things so there was more oxygen in the air, and everything was bigger here.
	The people were bigger, the trees were bigger, you know, the animals were bigger, and everything.
	And when the flood came down, there was less maybe solar protection, less oxygen in the air, and that's how everything has kind of got smaller here.
	And I was wondering what your thoughts, you know, not on the 6,000 years, because obviously that's a little bit different from the you know millions of years that you're thinking but the actual great flood how that possibly changed things here physiologically for these you know suits that we're in well there's um there's actually a set of um i guess there are videos that show uh you know how the trees used to be much bigger and how
	What we think of as mountains, even in some cases are, I think you might say, petrified tree trunks.
	And yeah, it's a wonderful set of videos that talks about that and demonstrates it going around the planet.
	So I do think that, you know, we used to be races of giants.
	It's very possible.
	And there may be other reasons why not necessarily a flood, but other reasons why are, you know, the size of us and and the beings here on this planet were bigger, and the plants were bigger, etc, as you say, but I think there's evidence to support that.
	Last week we interviewed Gene Decode and he went into depth on some of the positive ETs that are here helping us.
	He brought some good graphics showing people some different looks of what they are.
	Um, you know, there's, you know, rumors that, you know, because of what's happening here and the destruction, and because the Dracos were, you know, controlling things and destroying things, that we were stopping the evolution of the universe, and hence why other ETs from other places had to come here to try to put balance back in order.
	Because, you know, we are affecting the rest of the universe, and I was wondering, you know, what your thoughts on that are, and maybe if you know of any positive ETs that are helping and assisting, if they are here assisting humanity.
	Well, again, you know, you only need to look at yourself and determine what various ET races you might be a hybrid of.
	A lot of times you can tap into that.
	So I encourage people to do that.
	I can also tell by looking at people like some of the races of beings that they might be descended from.
	However, in terms of what you're saying in This this idea of what how it happened the way you know what what was dominating at any given time.
	It's almost impossible to really talk about.
	You can get the information from, like I said, downloaded from the Guardian Races.
	Now there are symbolism around the planet having to do with the mandala and also other artworks you know, carvings, et cetera, around the planet, where you will see that there are four corners.
	And those four corners depict often you'll get a human on one corner, maybe a lion, and then, I don't know, it depends what the beings are that they depict on the corners, you know.
	And so, in essence, that's, you know, what we're talking about.
	For example, the birds are a version of reptilian animals, You know, it's a long distant relationship between birds and reptiles, but they are linked.
	And when you think about it and when you watch it, you can see.
	Certainly, there are beings also that we're not very related to at all, such as spider beings and others who may have preyed upon us over the eons and so on.
	So I have put it together in my own mind in ways that make sense to me.
	I don't think everyone necessarily would agree.
	And I think that people are beginning to tap into their roots and to the various I'm not sure I'm answering the question directly.
	So am I kind of going off the topic here?
	others and that may influence the way you look um everything about you right so i'm not sure i'm answering the question directly so am i kind of going off the topic here or you want to say a little more specifically what it is you wanted well i was just wondering if because what's happening here you know we're stopping the evolution of the universe so other places had to come had to come here to get us back on course.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, I mean, you know, First of all, the various ET races that have come here, a lot of them like to lie to humanity.
	And so I wouldn't necessarily accept that version.
	Now, there may be a race that actually had that as a motivation from their point of view, but doesn't make it right.
	And I You know, we'd have to go back into sort of an anthropology of all the different races and what their modus operandi was and why they came to begin with.
	So, I think, I just think it's dangerous to sort of generalize across the board and say that See, there's a Illuminati overlay that always wants to see humans as at fault.
	So whenever you get an explanation to anything that's going on on planet Earth and say, well, it's because humans are at fault, they're so violent, and they're so this and they're so that, but you're not looking back into our history and into our genome and see where we got some of these things.
	And so I think that there's a lot of mistaken information about who we really are.
	And I think that's very, it's a very long road to recovering all those memories and to understanding, you know, there are strains of humanity that have gifts in certain areas, they're stronger in one area than another.
	And then but together they share and make an incredible whole.
	So I I just think that assuming that humanity was at fault and doing something wrong on the planet, that's always the point of view of the Illuminati.
	So I would, and reptilians, I would distance myself from that kind of thinking.
	Because I think it's so pervasive, and it's so wrong in so many cases.
	That's all.
	You had mentioned the Mandela, but I wanted to ask you about the Mandela effect.
	Things seem to be changing here in scriptures, in like Ed McMahon saying he never gave away Publisher Clearinghouse, like they never gave away that money.
	There's lots of things like somehow this Timeline seems to be altering and some people remember this, some people remember that.
	Do you think they may be going back in time, altering things?
	Why different people's timelines may be changing?
	Or why do you think people have different memories of events that happened in their own lifetime?
	Well, I think if we look at the way reality, what we call reality is, even right now.
	So let's say, on planet Earth today, you know, that some people are dying, some people are being born, some people are having a wonderful day, some people are having a horrible day, you know, whatever it happens to be.
	So I think it's, in a sense, those are Minuscule timelines.
	And I think that we're all experiencing things from our own filter, our own perspective.
	And what you take away, like someone might see something as a very negative event, a year, few years later, they might realize it was a very positive event in that the way that it affected them.
	So our interpretation also has to do with, you know, in the sense that I think One of the best basic symbols of life and everything is what's called the spiral.
	So understanding that life is not a circle, it's not a constant repetition and nothing new comes in.
	It's actually a spiral where you see the same events perhaps or similar from a different perspective because of time.
	And so I think that in a sense, the timeline idea is operational.
	And I do believe that they're using things like CERN to change timelines, or they certainly have been trying to for quite a long time.
	And there may be some branches that we went off.
	The main timeline, we have testimony and that to that effect, also going back to Dan Burish, and so on.
	But I think from what I understand, and I studied the Seth material, which is one of the best books to explain The timelines and the idea of more than one time simultaneously happening and how these things emerge.
	And I can say that I think we are technically time travelers by nature.
	So, and again, it depends how you want to view this, but in a sense, it is a gigantic board game.
	And we are avatars in this game and we are coming in and out in fact scientists talk about how we blink in and blink out of this reality every you know even at just in everyday sense every few seconds we're here and then we're not here so i'm even beginning to believe that it's very possible that let's say of course according to ashian and dean her information was that we had 12
	I think it was 12, it might have been 24, but I don't remember numbers very well.
	But anyway, it's around 12 or 24 incarnations simultaneously at any given moment.
	That was one theory.
	And so the idea here is that who is incarnating into your body at any given time, it would be your higher self, it would be your yourself that in a sense, doesn't fit, you know, the genie in the bottle, it doesn't fit just one bottle, it can go into many simultaneously, if you want to your nature, your essence, your soul, and your spirit.
	And so I think it's very possible that we are, you know, that the emphasis of where we're focused as a soul and various incarnations, and so on and so forth, and what happens while we sleep, for example.
	So why we're here, here, and...
	Don't you ever have the thing where you wake up in the morning and you look different than you did the day before?
	I think that people have noticed that.
	And so I think what we're really experiencing is actually more the true nature of what it means to be a physical body in a so-called physical universe, and and how completely malleable it is.
	It's like, there was a movie out once called The Eternal Lightness of Being, I think it was.
	And I think that that, for me, that sort of hit on this idea, you know, that we are not just one physical, like we're not locked into this physical body that as we think we are.
	Anyway, it's quite complex from my point of view.
	You can think about it any way you want.
	I can say that I do think the Illuminati do try to play with timelines.
	I think they try.
	But if I understand it correctly, there's one sort of dominating timeline that seems to take precedence with certain what you might call milestones.
	So like you could have 10 timelines, they all have those same 10 Um, milestones in these particular places, but the degree to which they manifest is different.
	So that, let's say in one timeline, it's a flood.
	In another timeline, it's a bad storm.
	In another timeline, it's a light rain.
	You know what I'm saying?
	So this kind of thing.
	So I think that's also operational.
	When you say the Illuminati are, you know, kind of messing with timelines, why do you think they're maybe messing with people's memories as well?
	Like some people saying they're gone to like Taylor Swift concerts and they see these flashes and they don't remember going there.
	They don't remember the concert.
	Other people are maybe not remembering.
	Do you think that because of all the horrific things that are being done to people, They're trying to get people not to remember, maybe putting too much aluminum in their brain so people can't really remember what's being done to them.
	Yeah, I do think that there's always an effort to dumb us down.
	That's obvious.
	You know, it's in the food, it's in the water, it's in the graphene oxide, you name it, they want to control us and on every level and they spy on us in every way, which in a certain sense tells you, you know, I've often I've used this analogy in the past, but you know, if they could lock us up into a pen like cattle, and, you know, Basically throw away the key.
	They wouldn't have to pay so much attention to us.
	But what happens is that we don't stay in the bottle.
	We, like I said, we leave, we leave our bodies constantly, even for for fractions of an instant, or for even days and weeks on end.
	And what part of us returns?
	And I think it can be argued that we are time travelers, that we are essence as soul experiencers here on this planet have the ability to come and to go.
	And that this is exploited, if you will, by the Illuminati, and they actually work very hard to create fragmentation in their sort of victims, if you will, as you know, so through mind control, etc.
	And so whether some of those flashes of light are intervening and causing amnesia for the moment, or whether we're experiencing things differently, because we were Actually, you know, like, let's, it's just an example.
	Let's say I have 12 incarnations of me in different times and places.
	And when something important is happening in one, you may be less paying attention in this one.
	In fact, I might decide to take a nap here, and I might go tend to something else I'm doing in another part of the time-space continuum.
	So when I come back, I might not even remember what was going on with my body here, you know, that kind of thing.
	So it's, yeah, it's open to all kinds of interpretations.
	And I think you have to follow your own intuition on these levels, I think.
	I don't think that you I don't necessarily think there's going to be a blanket Explanation for who we are or what we are because I think that we are Again, we're part of the what's called the creator.
	We're endlessly creative and our essence is not The physical, what we think of as the physical world is, as Tesla said, it's all energy and frequency.
	So what we think of as here, here, is not actually here, here.
	Even like this table and this computer are molecules or particles, you know, that are close together perhaps at this time.
	But if you can walk through walls by matching the frequency of the wall, this is something that ETs do, right?
	And so this is this is the nature of reality.
	And it's the nature of not just who we are, but who all of I mean, dogs and cats sleep, you know, and they dream.
	You've seen this, of course.
	So my dog beside me, he dreams all the time.
	Yeah, so does mine.
	And you know, and they have experiences, they bark in their sleep and all this kind of thing.
	So they're having very dynamic dreams as well.
	And, you know, and so I'm just saying that you can come to your own conclusions, you can take someone else's explanation, if you like.
	You know, but I would encourage people to be their own explorers, you know, and And you will eventually reach kind of a place where things that you know, you know things because you just know them, because you do are able to by locate, for example, if you're a remote viewer, you can go somewhere and see it, you can go see it up close, you can see it from a distance.
	You can experience different things.
	I mean, we have what's called a light body.
	The more developed spiritually you are, the more developed your light body is and how you can travel in it.
	And it can often maintain the same shape as you are.
	Obviously, you know, maybe not involved with the age system because aging is an illusion.
	And it's part of the illusion.
	It's been sold to humanity.
	But the reality is that if, if you're eternal, an eternal being, you are always eternal.
	And so this is also some of the things that Ashyana Deen and her The Guardian Races talk about is the idea that humanity used to live thousands of years, and that there's no real reason for our bodies to degrade the way they do.
	There are Interferences on our genome, there are blocks, there are frequency fences within that genome that have to be broken through to realize who we really are.
	But I think eventually we're going to get there.
	And I think we're going to be quite miraculous when that happens, you know, and we're going to do all the things that Christ could do and more, as, as he said, supposedly.
	So, you know, I think that's a good that's the good news of the future.
	I love that, and I just turned 50, and I don't feel 50, I don't look 50, and I've always felt that I was going to live here until at least 180, and I've always felt like this is heaven, this is the ultimate place that I would rather be with the freedom to touch, taste, smell.
	I haven't seen this place as some other people think it's the hell that we're placed into, but I've never seen that.
	I don't like the horrific things that happen here, but My world and my existence has generally been, you know, quite amazing.
	And when you're talking about the animal sleeping, Hawk is always beside me.
	And sometimes on the interviews, he'll be barking.
	He doesn't bark hardly ever.
	But in his dreams, he's always barking for some reason.
	He's just barking.
	People will hear it on the microphone.
	They're like, what is that?
	Because they can hear him barking.
	I'm like, that's just, you know, my dog dreaming.
	But I wanted to ask you about when you were mentioning how they wanted to put us into pens, if they could.
	And, you know, there's obviously talks now of the 15-minute cities where they want to herd us into these pens.
	But would that not backfire on them?
	Because if they made people herded into the pens, then people would start to Experience more of the outer body really, you know, because people don't like to be captive.
	And then that would actually start to accelerate people's other abilities because they would start to want to leave and start this, you know, remote viewing.
	And that would, I think, enhance things and it would actually backfire on them by trying to hurt us into a pen when we're supposed to be free.
	Yeah, I think that there's often, you know, they, as they say, with everything positive that comes out, the negative comes out at the same time.
	So you've got everything is a system of polarities.
	And there's reason to believe that yes, even the Russian people, for example, is, I think, a good example, because back in history, they were quite controlled.
	And as a result, they developed art.
	That was the way of them speaking out.
	In an artistic sense and and their art is quite, you know, finally developed.
	So whereas you get a race that is sort of more experiencing Earth for pleasure, then you get maybe more like the Greeks.
	Where the pleasures of the body and the manifestation in the everyday world is more important to them.
	So they do less in certain areas, other areas, perhaps.
	You know, there's always that discussion.
	But I can say that, you know, I think that we, first of all, I don't see the future like that with lockdown cities and all of that.
	I do think these are possible realities.
	I think that for some reason, Humans are considering these different realities, and perhaps they could happen in small pockets, as they have on the globe in various societies even.
	But ultimately, I think that we're progressing quite rapidly.
	And we're expanding very rapidly.
	So I think that in a sense, the genie is out of the bottle that the Illuminati have lost the race already.
	It's manifested so many ways.
	And This is a book I like to point to which is called Radical Abundance by Eric Drexler I think it is and I've only read part of it but it's quite eye-opening in terms of going into nano, the nano size of things and realizing that Our actual abundance here on Earth is absolutely endless.
	And even Michael Tellinger, who created a society where you could, you know, he wanted to have a, I guess you might say an experiment, the Ubuntu
	experiment and I interviewed him in South Africa about it years ago and what they found when they first tried to develop this idea was that they had so much overabundance of stuff from people just working in their normal ways to contribute to that small society that already at a certain juncture even after a few months of development
	They had surplus to give away to other tribes in the area, you know, that this is just the nature of who we are.
	We are creators by nature.
	And so I know that there are some I have what you know, I whistleblowers that have been under the thumb of the Illuminati and learned from them and all of that, and have worked for them for like 40 years of their life or whatever it is.
	And they buy into these scarcity models, okay, they believe you have to eliminate population, we are not overcrowded on this earth at all.
	And all you have to do is go drive across country or fly, for that matter, and you'll see there's so much open land.
	It's unbelievable.
	It's so beautiful and so extensive.
	And, yeah, we're concentrated on the waters, on the edges, but that doesn't have to be the way.
	And floating, you can also have floating cities, etc., etc.
	I mean, the possibilities are endless, really, for the future.
	So I see it that way.
	I don't see these limitations that they're always selling, that they're putting out over and over again.
	These are negative thought forms that have a lot of triggering effect.
	People are attracted to them.
	Some people are very attracted by limitation.
	They want limitation as you say they want a jail cell they want you know something that forces their physical body into a small situation so that Maybe the emphasis will be more on the mind or the traveling outside your body, etc.
	So, if they feel they have to do that in order to force themselves to explore their inner selves and get into that self-realization that way, this is their choice, perhaps.
	And there may be more societies like that, certainly.
	Even, you know, you can look back at these various societies, like the, what do they call them?
	I forget.
	Anyway, but there are so many evidences of Mormons and various groupings of societies that, some of them becoming very insular and not allowing other types of people to come in and not interacting with the real world and so on.
	Amish.
	Yeah, the Amish, I was trying to think of their name, are an indication of that, where they think they benefit by that kind of limitation.
	That's their choice, you know.
	Monks are choosing a lifestyle like that, you know, nuns and monks.
	Now, some people, you know, feel that maybe it's the Masons.
	You mentioned the Illuminati.
	Some people say the Jesuits, Anthony Frauci, and a lot of them come from the Jesuit order.
	You know, some say Khazarian, some say Zionists.
	Do you think that that's just to kind of get people that are kind of awake and aware to point fingers everywhere else besides, you know, maybe a higher order that's controlling them all?
	Well, I certainly think that there are like Like I say, off-planet races that are trying to control our Earth.
	And they're doing it using those people as their puppets, in essence.
	And that is true of the banking system, okay?
	The banking families, as we call them.
	They live in Basel, Switzerland.
	They're under orders from certain ET races, certainly by the Anunnaki, for example.
	And possibly a few others.
	The Germans were also given a lot of technology by the race from Aldebaran that appear to be reptilian-humanoid hybrids.
	So what we're talking about, yes, there's orchestration from beyond the ones you see.
	And even then they may be shapeshifters or whatever it is.
	So there's no doubt that orchestration from behind the scenes is going on with regard to all those groups that I would just put in a bucket term that they consider themselves the Illuminati.
	They're part of the what they think they are is Thinking they are the chosen elite.
	Again, usually with a reptilian overtone, having something of that in the background.
	So, sure.
	That's what's going on, for sure.
	Those off-world groups that you talk about in past interviews, you said that this is just a warm-up war with ETs, but Gene had mentioned the Arcturian Council with extreme technologies has destroyed massive dark fleet ships.
	Um, you know, is it any group was foolish to attempt a mini war with them?
	Um, so do you think that we might be at a place where we can find peace and harmony?
	Or do you think that this is just the beginning to, you know, much more to come?
	Well, I think that, you know, we are, uh, Quickly approaching what we were told in Project Camelot, going back to really literally like 20 years ago.
	One of the first things we were told was certain things, like by Henry Deacon, one of our witnesses, and he talked about how the future would be exactly as we're hearing right now.
	In other words, the banking system failing, maybe even a Project Bluebeam operational fake alien invasion.
	scenario, which the military is favoring, according to Randy Kramer, and is actually behind on right now.
	So, yes, I mean, there is, there's so much that is happening around us at this time.
	I think that we are okay, we were told that there would be a war with China in which China and the US and the various countries, Iran, and so on, and Russia would agree to that war, they would do the war.
	So they're under orders to actually perform these certain things.
	And in that way they will test out their new weapons.
	They will get rid of, certainly COVID was instrumental in getting rid of a good part of the older populations.
	So they bought into the jab and they're dying now and we're seeing that in evidence right in front of us.
	You know, so there's an agenda.
	There's a plan.
	The dark side has a plan.
	The light side also does.
	And one of the things I recently wrote an article, I encourage people to read it if you're interested.
	It's on my sub stack where I've started to put a lot of my articles because they kind of get buried in my website.
	People didn't notice them as much.
	So, I just wrote an article that is about the fact that the White Hats did not want me to disclose the reptilian presence and the fact that we're about to have a war with ETs.
	So, after this war with China, we were told is like a dress rehearsal.
	For War With ETs, that's next.
	That's the information that we were given.
	It doesn't mean it's set in stone, necessarily.
	Timelines change, and, you know, you can't necessarily predict the future all the time.
	But it makes a lot of sense to me, understanding what I know about what's really going on, because I see the approach of the White Hats, and I see that they, either they're blind themselves, or if they're not blind, they're in denial.
	And they're also putting out, especially through Juan, a lot of disinfo that involves old school religions and mindsets like that.
	Obviously they're trying to, you know, court, if you will, the religious right, and they're trying to court the, also stay, you know, in the good graces, let's say, of the Israelis, of, you know, Israel and the Anunnaki who run Israel.
	And run the planet, in theory, along with other races as well.
	And so there are also, one thing in the Ashyana Deen books that's very clear, is that we're part of a war of worlds.
	That that's not an illusion, that this is something that has been going on on planet Earth now for eons, that we have been wrapped into the war of worlds, and that it's happening off planet between these various ET races as well.
	One of the things that happens during war, just on a more spiritual level, is you can think of war as a clash of civilizations, or entities, or races, or whatever.
	But there's a merging that happens during a war, so that you get the thesis, antithesis, and then synthesis.
	And then it moves on from there and goes to the next stage.
	So we are really In the process of merging with these various ET races through wars, the exercising of wars, and you know, a lot of women and children will be abducted and taken to other planets during this time.
	A lot of women will be used as incubators, you might say, for new races of X-Men or X-Humans, like the X-Men saga.
	So where you get a whole different genome or a subgenome coming out of it, like the abduction by grays of humans.
	So you have a human-gray hybrid.
	It's already a hybrid on the human side, but the gray is reptilian, actually, in a certain kind of reptilian species.
	So you'll get a mixture.
	And they'll have certain abilities.
	And they're the ones coming in through the southern border, a lot of them, the ones in South from South America, and Central America.
	You know, this, this is, you know, kind of, you might think of it, it's kind of like a flow.
	And there's, you know, wingmakers, for example, I was In touch with and interviewed James of the Wingmakers many years ago.
	And one of the things that he and his group, who are very focused on being from Lyra, talked about was the plan was that there would be seven races that would be merged out of this version of humanity.
	Meaning seven other, all different races with this version of hybrid humanity.
	To create a whole nother being, you see.
	So this is the creativity of the creator, actually.
	We are not going to stand separate.
	We are going to merge and emerge, and so on.
	So I don't see it as a bad thing, actually.
	I think that this is just the way of the multiverses.
	So there was talks of the fake alien invasion.
	There might actually be an alien invasion and it may not be.
	I mean, there's already an alien invasion.
	In fact, Cyrus Parsa emphasized that even the so-called COVID, whatever you want to call it, pathogen or it's an intelligently designed so-called pathogen or virus or bacteria or whatever you want to call it.
	That then was also turned into this so-called VAX that was also intelligently designed, but that the apparently that an AI, a gray ET AI, was instrumental behind the scenes.
	This was information he got.
	He was very familiar with AI and through his investigations that he found that our doctors were taking instructions to create that so-called virus, which is, again, an engineered plandemic or whatever.
	And they're just engineering these things constantly, of course, as you know, Fort Detrick and so on and so forth.
	This is what scientists are doing.
	And they're releasing these things into human pools of genetics.
	And I think that one of the things that I see when I see this kind of thing going on is that those who are surviving, who will survive, are going to be bigger, better, and stronger ultimately by exposure to these things.
	And the weak, the ones that are weaker will simply leave in this version of incarnation and come back.
	I'm not trying to make an excuse for it.
	You know, I do think it's diabolical.
	It's horrendous.
	And, and it is it was very intentionally made the COVID situation, which is just morphing into another one right now, related to birds or whatever.
	I mean, all of this stuff is to create as kind of a superhuman And it's intentional on the part of the Secret Space Program and the Illuminati.
	They think they're doing a good thing, okay?
	If you talk to them, they will actually tell you that what they think they're doing is not a negative thing.
	They just think that the deaths are collateral damage from those that are too weak to live from their point of view.
	And so they're forcing something that might happen naturally if there is even natural evolution of any kind.
	But what I'm saying is they've done they're doing it on purpose, and they're forcing it.
	So We're living in a time that's, you know, extremely insane in this regard.
	But it's not the first time this type of thing.
	This is an invasion, okay?
	It's an invasion and a genetic manipulation of our genome in order to create a different kind of humanity or human hybrid.
	Transhumanize?
	Is this, you know, kind of... Yes, for sure.
	I mean, I'm going to be doing an interview.
	I guess it's next week with Scott Perez.
	He's a scientist.
	I've had, I've done a few interviews with him and had, was on a show together.
	And we talk even offline, you know, back and forth about this subject, but he, he emphasizes over and over again, you know, he's gotten very into manipulating DNA and RNA and all of that.
	And as a scientist, and he, was trained to do this.
	And he he said that DNA is actually artificial.
	It's AI, our DNA.
	So he's talking about the intelligent engineering that goes into the human genome.
	And what then you have to ask, well, who's intelligent?
	You know, in a sense, AI is intelligent engineering is if I understand him correctly.
	And the influence of AI is very pervasive on our planet.
	And it goes back eons, perhaps even to the origination of, of how this whole thing comes together in terms of having a human body and being part of this, this war of worlds, this, you know, this sim, as some people call it a simulation, and so on and so forth.
	So As souls, we progress, you know, and we can either participate or not, eventually, but this thing is is ongoing.
	So it's, um, I don't know.
	I think it's a great experience to be alive and to be experiencing all of this.
	I think we can be better and stronger than we think we are or we think we are at this time.
	I think whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
	I think that does hold true for us.
	I do think that consciousness is also expanding here in humanity.
	And, you know, all of this kind of stuff that I'm talking about is, is permeating the, you know, all the levels of humanity at this time.
	So, you know, the minute you think differently, you manifest differently.
	You know, you know that idea.
	So nothing is operational by itself.
	Everything is linked up.
	And we've had Dr. John Scott Perez on The Missing Link numerous times, and he's, you know, introduced a lot of people to the Allicin V vape, where people are helping with allergies, you know, he's, they've engineered this, you know, Allicin V, where, you know, it actually helps coat the lungs and protect it from a lot of the pathogens, the things that are out there.
	If people are into vaping, then You know, that's one way that he's helped save his life.
	You know, he was on a whole bunch of medications and he created this and started vaping and now he's got all this super strength and he feels really, really good from this product.
	So yeah, I've talked quite extensively with him as well.
	Well, Scott Perez has something similar.
	I think it's even called something like that.
	So he's going to be talking about that on my show as well.
	That's him, Dr. John Scott Perez.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's the same guy.
	Okay, same person.
	Yeah.
	Okay, then you know who I'm talking about.
	Yeah, so you've mentioned John Lear, that we never went to the moon in these tin cans, but we have gone to the moon with the help of the ETs, just not how NASA has presented with these movie studios.
	Maybe could you talk about, maybe a little bit about the moon and, you know, us going there and what possibly is that a base?
	Okay, so we've been going for quite a while.
	I have an appointment to go to.
	I'm trying to see what time it is.
	But anyway, at a certain point, but yes, I can.
	So John Lear, you know, I've interviewed him dozens of times, literally.
	And you can go to my website if you want to know about someone I've interviewed, just you know, put into the search term their first or last name, and you'll get most of my interviews with them.
	And most of them are free, especially the older ones are all free.
	So, but anyway, John Lear is, you know, talked about going to the moon, the fake moon landing, you know, they were talking about Going back to what's-his-name, the English filmmaker and how he filmed the fake moon landing, he was doing a service.
	Stanley Kubrick.
	Stanley Kubrick, yes.
	And I actually worked for NASA, JPL, for, like I said, a few years as a contractor.
	And one of the things when you go to Jet Propulsion Lab in Pasadena is that they have these moon landing stages, where they have the dirt that's this right color, and they actually do film And try out their rovers and various things on these pieces of little, you know, land and film them.
	So they've been doing this forever, even before Kubrick.
	So it's not a surprise that they decided they had to fake it.
	Of course, William Tompkins, one of my very good witnesses, you know, who has passed on now, I interviewed him for, well, we interviewed him, myself and Michael Schratt for over three hours, I think it was.
	And you can definitely watch that interview, which covers a lot of ground.
	He was interviewed constantly and paid for it by Gaia TV, too, by the way.
	But I really got him to, you know, I guess the essence of what he had to say.
	But anyway, so I can say that, you know, he talked about The Secret Space Program, how the reptilians were sabotaging it, how the Pleiadians were helping our scientists develop the technology and the abilities to leave the planet, and so on and so forth.
	What can I tell you?
	Also, we have countless witnesses that are from the Secret Space Program who know that we went to the moon, but we did it with the help of E.T.
	Our astronauts did not ride in those little tin cans and so on and so forth.
	But they did encounter reptilian ships when they arrived on the moon.
	And the reptilians were in charge of the moon at the time.
	At this time, I think we have areas that we're in charge of and that the reptilians allow us to have on the moon, as well as other beings that are in charge of their areas on the moon and so on and so forth.
	What can I say?
	I do not subscribe to the flat earth idea.
	Not that there probably easily is a, you know, an ice wall and there could be lands that we haven't been given access to and things like that.
	I think that the planes One sort of clear indication that there's something else going on is the way that planes, you know, commercial planes fly over the planet is really doesn't sound seem logical to me at all.
	They don't go like straight across the Atlantic Ocean or anything like that.
	You know, so that when we travel like from California to England, we have to go up through the Arctic area.
	It's just like, seems so out of the way.
	So I think that there's a lot of reason to believe that there's something going on with the planet, no doubt.
	And what we've been told, or how it's been depicted in pictures and so on, is questionable.
	But But think of, you know, the way I look at it is that in a sense, it's as above, so below.
	So we we have, you know, a head that's relatively rounded, and this is who we are, and that the being that is the earth being is, you know, that the circle is a basic structure of the universe and the multiverse and that there are different ways of perceiving reality.
	And that also gets into the timelines and so on and so forth, reincarnation, etc.
	So you're not seeing reality the way it actually is.
	You're seeing a version through a veil and...
	And one of the things that is interesting about the Flat Earth idea coming to the fore during this time, is that we have been moving from 3D, it is said into 4D.
	And the nature of 4D is that it is A flat plane extending endlessly out.
	So this is indeed what seems to be permeating a lot of people's brains.
	You know, it doesn't really matter to me one way or the other that you want to think that.
	I do interview, of course, people from the Secret Space Program who've flown in craft, like Captain Mark Richards, and scientists who talk about their experience with the Earth.
	And for example, how they went from point A to point B as well.
	and And by the way, travel, and this idea of time travel, and what you're traveling through, and how you go from point A to point B, because you don't, you don't fly directly through like the, the belt, you know, you don't go, that's not how you travel in space.
	And you go through wormholes, and you go through, basically, stargates, yeah, and, and you also jump And this idea of jumping is real.
	So you go between dimensions.
	You actually go from one dimension to another.
	So you're cutting across as opposed to going around, et cetera.
	So I think there's a lot of misconceptions on visualizing what we're part of and understanding it.
	And it also has to do with the way our brains have been configured or blind spots that are in our way of thinking of reality.
	Whereas eventually when those are gone, we can do things like fly.
	We can travel from point A to point B by just walking through a door.
	You know, it's all in the mind.
	So the partitions, in a way, are in the minds of the humans and have been built into the game, if you will.
	But I think that once you think of it differently, It is different.
	It becomes different.
	So I think it's a it's an open question for the future, as to what we're going to see material or materialize around us.
	And what can I say, I travel the world a lot.
	You know, I fly in planes all the time, that kind of thing.
	Now, have you heard of Terrence Howard and the stuff that he seems very smart?
	He comes from Hollywood and he's been, he was just on Joe Rogan's show and he seems, he's very smart about some of his theories and helping people being able to fly without, you know, like anti-gravity type of stuff, you know, flying machines and Seems like he's gonna be a pioneer in things to come here, and I was just wondering what your thoughts on him and, you know, what he's introducing to humanity right now.
	Actually, I don't know who that is, so I can't really comment.
	Wow, okay, I'll send you some stuff on him.
	He's very brilliant.
	Last thing, your book, The Rebel Gene, when it comes down to it, do we all have the rebel genes in us?
	Are we, you know, rebels at heart?
	It's, you know, some people, maybe not so much.
	They're easy to obey what's going on.
	But, you know, the ones that are more awake and aware and buck in the system and not buying the BS.
	Is that the rebel gene that's in all of us?
	Oh, for sure.
	You know, that's kind of what I'm saying.
	But, you know, I think I don't think it's, you know, I know that there are people in different stages of their own Evolution or manifestation and some people, even in their certain incarnations may be more placid and going along and getting along in that particular time span, right, that they're experiencing.
	And so, like I said, if you entertain the idea that that We have multiple incarnations and that we're not the same person in every one of them.
	We do retain, by the way, we still look a lot like ourselves.
	So you can actually, if you are astute, you can find yourself sometimes in photographs and old photographs and things.
	But the bottom line is that I think that that we're all We're all much more complex and evolving in many, many different directions.
	So I don't, I don't see us as locked down to this reality as people make it out to be.
	And I think in the future, that's going to become more and more obvious.
	I know that I can, I can bilocate, I have experiences that are paranormal and, and You could say are unexplainable.
	I've even been told, you know, that like, From a long time ago that people that I'm standing right there, but people couldn't see me that kind of thing.
	Strange things that have gone on in my own life that have been indicators that reality is not at all what we think it is.
	It's a lot different, a lot more, a lot more fascinating.
	And I think we have lots of indicators of that.
	And I think it's a, you know, it's kind of like a brave new world in that regard.
	I'm just glad to be here and glad to be experiencing all the things.
	And I love it when I have some unexplained occurrence in my life, because that's really a sign from the Creator, God, the cosmos, that Yeah, it's like I think every life is in constant dialogue with the Creator.
	And we're all part of the Creator.
	And that goes for everything.
	I mean, everything, every human, every ET, every animal, every plant, you name it.
	It all is part of the Creator.
	And there is not, you know, to look at yourself as being a chosen anything is, you know, that's just ego and, you know, Maya, in my view.
	The kingdom of God is within you.
	You were created in God's image, and Yeshua came to teach that you have a direct connection to source creation, and you don't need any middlemen.
	So, you know, live the best life that we can here.
	And, you know, we now officially have more people than I've ever watched on live.
	We have, like, almost 1,250 people here.
	Right now watching live with us, so I wanted to welcome everybody.
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	Theprojectcamelotportal.com, what can people see there?
	And if people needed to reach out to you for any reason, I know some people in the comments, talk to her, please link it up.
	If people were to somehow send you a message or how could they reach you if they wanted to respond with you. - Sure, there's a contact us at the top of the website.
	So there are menu items, be sure to look for those items.
	And then there's also all the links, all the social media links.
	I was banned from YouTube a few years ago during the COVID thing when I started interviewing doctors.
	They were fine with me interviewing people about ETs and the secret space program when they thought there was a giggle factor so I could be discredited.
	But when I started interviewing COVID type doctors that knew what they're really talking about in alternative ways, that's when they came down hard on my channel.
	So I was deleted completely overnight.
	Around March of 2021, as I recall, a year before that, they demonetized me.
	So I was, you know, demonetized and money was difficult from then.
	But then I started up a subscription service.
	So now, What I do is most of my everything is free and especially after broadcast it's free for at least a month or two or three and then eventually it will go behind what's called a you know the subscription which is only the only videos I've done thousands of videos over the 20 years so I have a ton of free my YouTube channel was sort of sucked up by my Odyssey channel
	When they deleted me from YouTube, it all went to Odyssey, or most of it.
	Some of it actually didn't make it over, but most of it.
	And my website has almost every, it should have every video I've ever done.
	So, and we're talking thousands and thousands at this point.
	And what can I say?
	So the years between 2021, when we were deleted off YouTube, and today, those are the years that have what we call a
	a paywall for members and to join all you need is three dollars a month which is less than the price of a latte uh so hopefully it's low enough and if you want to go just month to month it's five dollars a month so it's um it's great when we have subscribers it helps us a huge amount and helps pay the rent etc Yeah, so there's lots there.
	I write tons of articles and I do about three shows weekly.
	Either I'm interviewed or I interview someone else during those three shows.
	It's a I keep churning out this stuff.
	I always thought that maybe there would be an end to it.
	But it seems to get even more now.
	It's like, there's just, it's like a never ending flow of fascinating information to share and investigations that I'm doing and all of that.
	So I'm on social media.
	I'm on all you know, I was banned during those corporate years.
	from a lot of things.
	So for example, my Twitter is, I have had to have use a, like an alternative email address for some of them, ProtonMail.
	So I just, it's like CamelotQK at ProtonMail.com.
	That's my Proton email.
	Sometimes they mess with my Gmail addresses, which are the ProjectCamelot.tv.
	We own the domain.
	So ProjectCamelotPortal.com.
	So it's like Carrie at ProjectCamelot.tv or is my main email.
	Well, So yeah it's all there it's it's on the and we have a newsletter where we have um I was uh my entire website was knocked off about I don't know six weeks ago or more now and I had to hire a new admins and a lot of people couldn't handle the job so I had to keep getting new people so it looks like maybe we're making our way back everything works right now I think And the only thing is the newsletter hasn't been put back together.
	I'm really hoping to get that going this week.
	So bear with us, but you can sign up for free.
	All you do is enter your email address and it's on the front page.
	You just scroll down and you'll see it.
	And I have lots of products, by the way, that I interview the principals, I interview the CEO and the top scientists.
	for every product and I use it myself and that's why it's on my my website and I also have a huge telegram channel and you know so you can see me rant and rave on telegram if you're interested and then I have a substack that I just started recently because of the problems with my website so it's Carrie News and Views Carrie Cassidy News and Views it's on substack but it's linked on the front of my website as well
	So, tons and tons of stuff, really, going back 20 years.
	That's amazing.
	So all of those links they can find on the projectcamelotportal.com, all the links to your social media?
	Okay, perfect.
	And we've had four YouTube channels deleted as well during 21, 22.
	We've interviewed like about 80 doctors that speak out against the medical tyranny, and they didn't really like that on YouTube.
	But right now, we've had a whole bunch of people that have Spoken like how we were on YouTube now and we've mentioned COVID and we've mentioned these other things and they've released those Restrictions now used to get you couldn't mention any of that.
	So right now those restrictions have been released on a YouTube Anybody that mentioned things I just put on private but I stopped doing that and we haven't got it hit at all, you know, so Yes, I'm noticing this.
	I started up, I've actually started up several YouTube channels.
	A lot of them never went anywhere and they kept banning me anyway, but this latest one seems to be, you know, flying so far and it's linked on my front page in my Project Camelot and I do live shows on that particular channel and I've had I haven't had any, like I got one small warning thing, but now I don't really care if they want to delete me.
	They can because I don't care anymore because Rumble is where I put all my new stuff.
	That's the main new channel.
	Okay, well, awesome.
	Well, thank you so much for your time.
	Thank you for enlightening our audience and, you know, answering all these questions here for us.
	May the Source be with you and protection around you during this pivotal time in history.
	For all the new people here, make sure you thumbs up, like, subscribe, subscribe to all our channels.
	Um, you know, may the source be with you all, protection around you all, knowledges, power, the more knowledge we all have collectively, the less power they have over us.
	So for one love, one heart, one life and namaste everyone.
	And if they ever ask you to put on a breathing inhibitor again, make sure you tell them no masque.
	Okay.
	Thanks, everybody.
	Thanks, Carrie.
	All right.
	Thank you.
	Take care.

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