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July 15, 2023 - Project Camelot
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KC SUNSHINE: RISING ABOVE A CHILDHOOD OF RAPE AND ABUSE INTO REDEMPTION
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Okay.
Hi, I'm Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
So I have Casey Sunshine with me and we're going to be talking um sort of this is an advance warning that she's going to talk about her time in Hollywood and not sure what else but in terms of it could get into various controversial aspects things that are hard to take and hard to listen to so if you're overly sensitive, don't want to hear that kind of thing, then you might as well turn it off now.
Otherwise, we're going live right now on Facebook.
And so most people on Facebook are subscribers of my channel that would be watching this in theory, so they know what I'm like and what I'm about.
But we're always pushing the envelope here.
And then on top of it, this will go after the broadcast.
It will be posted to Rumble.
My Rumble channel, my Odyssey channel, and also my website, and social media, and so on.
Welcome, Casey.
It's great to have you here.
And it's kind of fun because we met doing a sort of a roundtable.
I think of it as a roundtable, but it's kind of a group of you and Penny Shepard on Awake Nation.
It's a spinoff, I guess you might say, of Dark Outpost.
And so we have a lot of women hosts and it's kind of fun.
And and that's the show we've been doing for the last couple of months.
And, you know, I've seen you there and I wanted to I was curious about your background.
You say things that are interesting and provocative and lead me to believe that you are pretty much in the know on a lot of things, so I thought it'd be fun to compare notes.
So, here we are, and like I said, welcome, and why don't you introduce yourself?
I will be, you know, honest.
I don't know a whole lot about you, and I've been Incredibly busy lately.
It's just insane.
And so I haven't had time to investigate, you know, your background and so on.
Okay, I go by Casey Sunshine.
And for 26 years, I, as a profession, I write federal court documents in tandem with family law attorneys.
So when people get divorced, I do the federal court order to split up their retirement.
So I'm an actuary by trade.
But as a child, I was very traumatized sexually.
I was abandoned by my mom and my dad when I was only six months old and they dropped me off.
And my mom was in Hollywood and she wanted to be rich and famous and that was the most important thing to her.
So she dropped my brother and I off.
I was six months old.
He was 18 months old and she dropped us off in Kansas City.
At her parents' home with her brother and her sister on site, knowing full well that they had a history of being very abusive and very toxic.
And it turns out that my grandmother, who watched the 700 Club all day, but her son was raped in the basement of his church and very ritually.
Uh, raped.
So in fact, when we were first started being molested, my brother and I were only three and four years old.
And the first time, uh, my grandmother caught us in the basement with my uncle instructing us to pull down our pants, we were, um, spanked and made to stand in the corner.
So the children most specifically mean, so I was told as a young child that as a female, that men would not be able to resist me.
And so it was my fault if men were attracted to me and the first man that was attracted to me was my uncle.
So by the age of seven and eight, my uncle began sodomizing my uncle and he was performing oral sex on me.
And this process continued for many, many years.
Some people have asked me how many times that happened and I can't even tell you how many times that it happened.
So, Um, we were in that home.
My grandmother, she practiced ritual horrors upon me.
So my brother and I would take a bubble bath and I was taken out.
I was given an enema and a douche and told that my vagina was dirty.
And she would rub me until I was raw.
And she just really programmed that into me that if I ever, when I grew up, if I wore lipstick and a skirt.
That men would not be able to resist me.
And this is very similar to how my mother was raised.
And by then she was out in Hollywood, pursuing her fame and fortune.
And she just left us there.
And so we went through this until we started school.
And praise God, when we started school, we went to my dad's parents.
So we got out of the daily ritual process that we were in at that time.
But even on that side of my family, my step grandfather was molesting all the girls in the family.
So by the age of 11, I had been molested by five different males in my family.
At the age of 14, my uncle violently raped me.
He got out of the Marine Corps.
Not surprisingly, he was discharged dishonorably.
And he came to bring us some cold duck.
And if you remember what that was like, it tastes like grape juice.
So he fed it to my brother and I. And when we passed out in our beds, I woke up.
With my face being shoved down in a pillow, being asphyxiated while he was on my back, and he raped me anally.
And then when he was finished with me, he raped my brother.
So at the age of 14, I was violently raped.
And then later that year, my mom's boyfriend, her boyfriend sold pornographic material and sex toys, and his son was 19.
So I was raped vaginally.
By statute.
So I had a crush on the boy, but I did not want to be raped.
So by the age of 15, I have my own apartment.
My brother moved in with me.
I got into therapy at 17 and spent many years in a therapy process.
And then for the last 28 years, I've been providing free support to survivors of sexual trauma.
So in tandem with my My business that I do, because I've been able to provide this for free to survivors.
So, I had my home office.
I have five adult sons between the ages of 25 and 35.
And as a side note, we all have Emory-Dreyfus muscular dystrophy.
So, I have a defibrillating pacemaker that keeps me alive.
I've been dead eight times.
I've been electrocuted by my defibrillator 33 times.
But going back, that's a whole other issue as well.
But going back to my childhood, When my mother, when we weren't in school, we would travel with my mother on stage, kind of like the Partridge family.
And so here I was after being pre-programmed by my grandmother, um, that my vagina was dirty and that I would never, we should never put on lipstick and things of that nature.
My mother put on lipstick.
She took me to the beauty salon and had me all sex kittened up.
I literally had my hair done up in a beehive and was wearing a very expensive floor length gown where I was singing At the Ritz Carlton in the Las Vegas area for the muscular dystrophy telethons.
So there I was, I was fondled by Dean Martin.
Some of you know that he was part of the Rat Pack and they openly worship Satan.
So I had no issue with Jerry Lewis himself, but Dean Martin, I encountered him to be, you know, basically intoxicated from sunup to sundown.
And back then, Um, with my mom working in nightclubs, the kids could be in a nightclub.
Now you can't, you have to be over 21.
But back then we would be in the nightclubs with her.
So when she was performing, um, sometimes we'd be up with singing with her.
So I was groomed to specifically sing Jesus Christ Superstar.
And my song in particular was Mary Magdalene's I Don't Know How to Love Him, where I was singing to a crowd at eight years old, all dressed up like a little sex kitten with lipstick and a dress.
Um, that I'd had so many men before and I was just trying to figure out how to seduce Jesus.
So not surprisingly, I would sing that song on stage and then I would go out into the crowd when we also did the signature song as a family, Tina Turner's Proud Mary.
So my brother did that thing as well.
And that was back when we were.
We're pretty good as a family, especially with two young kids singing on stage.
We had the stage presence and so on.
But I was very shy.
My brother was very, very outgoing.
And he, to this day, he followed in my mom's footsteps.
He's a professional comedian in Hollywood and has done quite well for himself.
He's very, very talented.
He has his own CD.
He does what they call blue comedy, which is a lot of the F-bomb and that sort of thing.
But he was good friends with George Carlin, and he fashioned himself after Lenny Bruce, and I was his sole supporter when he was trying to break into it.
But as children, my mom worked for the Kansas City Mafia, so in the Sevilla family.
We lived in North Kansas City, and I delivered newspapers in Little Italy, and so if any of you ever had a newspaper delivery, you know that I was only 12 years old, but I was getting up at 2 o'clock in the morning, And putting all the newspapers together and delivering them to the neighborhoods before 6 a.m.
And my mother, who drank a lot of Jack Daniels with Coca-Cola, so she's a wide-awake drunk, she was addicted to Valium and she would get two or three prescriptions at one time.
So she would sleep like a dead person when she was home with us.
So when she was in Kansas City, she worked as a regular at Cascone's for the Sevilla family under Johnny Amaro.
Slow down.
I missed that word.
She was a what?
I was a Mafia goddaughter and she worked for Cascone's Restaurant, which was owned by the Sevilla family.
Okay.
And her manager was Johnny Amaro.
We called him Johnny Green.
And there came upon a night when Johnny Green had been executed and they found his head in his mailbox and his body in the trunk of his car.
And I was there delivering newspapers in the middle of the night.
And normally my mother never went with me.
She just sent me off and I had this other person that I delivered newspapers with, but it was February.
It was very cold.
There was snow on the ground.
And she got a call and it took me many, many years to kind of piece this together.
But essentially she was told to make sure that I was on site.
So she got out of her bed and drove me on my paper route that night when they found Johnny Green's head His name was Johnny Amaro, but we called him Johnny Green, and they found his head in the mailbox and his body in the trunk of his car.
Well, it took me actually decades after that to realize that this was my first traumatic event where I was seeing death and blood and horror.
And I was told by my mother, do not tell anyone about this, not even your brother.
So you can imagine how difficult that was.
I was tossed from foster care family to foster care family.
My mother had at least nervous breakdowns about once a year and I was kind of her designated person to call the operator or get her into a psych ward and to manage things for her.
So my brother had he was hyper and so I was like I had the good girl syndrome where I had to kind of hold things together and you know being Babysit by her uncle.
We were both being molested and my brother was being sodomized regularly by her uncle when he was with us.
So we traveled from California to Texas to New York all over with my mom whenever we were not in school.
And so we would just hang out at these ritzy restaurants and hotels where we had pretty much had to feed ourselves out of a vending machine because my mom would sleep all day from the volume and so forth.
So We had to grow up really fast.
So my brother and I, we developed some kind of superpowers, I like to say.
In fact, even the Tavistock Institute has stated in their research that the reason that NAMBLA, which I think is North American Man Boy Love Association, the reason that they recommend sex before eight, before it's too late, is because they know that if they sexually traumatize a child before the age of eight, that they can
Create a compartmentalization of their personality, like a disassociative identity disorder, and I think that was their goal.
They were testing me to see if I could keep a secret, and I passed.
I never told my brother, and my brother and I never told each other.
We told each other about all the psychotic abuse and all the violence from my mother, because, you know, imagine she comes home, she's drunk on Jack and Coke, and she's working till three o'clock in the morning.
And then if there were spots on the dishes or whatever, she would, she was very violently abusive.
We'd get beaten with a belt, with the end of a high heel shoe.
We'd had glasses broken in our face and things of that nature.
She was, you know, many years later, I called her mommy dearest, because if you ever saw that movie, she was very, very much like that.
So, so I went back and forth to family foster care, to social services, when she wasn't in town and the family wasn't available.
And then I was traveling on the road with my mom.
So we went from eating lobster and shrimp for dinner to, you know, just being able to barely scrape things together because my grandfather was a over-the-road truck driver.
So I saw like a real big disparity in the haves and the have-nots.
And so I lived with my mom for a total of four and a half years when she was working in Kansas City with the Mafia.
And ironically, I felt I love them dearly.
And it was the only four and a half years of my life where I wasn't being molested and raped.
So during that period of time, I was babysitting for the rich and famous, like a Kansas City Kings basketball player and working in the nightclubs and that sort of thing.
So during that period of time, I was well protected.
But when I got married at 18 to an alcoholic, so even though I had some therapy under my belt, I still married an alcoholic, very young.
Mostly, I married him because at that time, I believed that you couldn't live with someone.
You had to be married if you were going to have sexual relations.
So this is, I'm old school.
I'm 58 years old.
So I got married out of obligation for that.
And then I left Kansas City at 21 and I was able to obtain my Mafia godfather's permission.
I went and I spent about 12 hours waiting for him.
To meet with him because I was betrothed to his son named Dean.
So his name was Carmen, but we called him Butch.
And so we waited for Butch at one of his restaurants that was owned by his wife.
Interestingly enough, they don't take their last name.
So because they put their restaurants in their, their wives and their families names.
So I was waiting at a restaurant called Diane's waiting for Butch.
And after about 12 hours, he showed up and I asked him for permission to move back to California.
And he did ask me if my ex-husband had had been violent with me in any way, shape or form, which he had.
But at that time, I promptly knew that after seeing the vision of Johnny Green's body in the trunk of his car, I thought, no, I really don't want to have that visited on my ex-husband.
So I said, no, he was just a drunk and I just really want to move back to California.
And so I was granted permission to do that.
But at the age of 17, interestingly enough, I had I had my own apartment at 15.
I was working three jobs.
And so I had a car that didn't have a short in the taillight.
So I got like three tickets.
So I got pulled over.
And when they picked me up, I had no adults.
And I told the police officer that I had no adults that could bail me out of jail.
And so I ended up being Strip searched by a Lenexa, Kansas police officer.
So, I mean, if you can imagine a little girl who's left with no parental supervision, who had no protection whatsoever, people who say, I can't believe that happened to you, Casey, my gosh, you know, I mean, that just seems really bizarre.
But just imagine if you left, dropped off a little three-year-old girl with no one to care for her and no one to protect her.
So, so that is, that was the truth of my childhood.
And after getting many years of therapy, my therapist declared that I had, I was graduated because I kind of started running her group therapy sessions.
So she said, Okay, Casey, I think you graduated.
And the only thing that you need to do now is there will come a time when you would confront your mom.
And your uncle and, and when you're strong enough to do that, I'll be here and ready and willing.
But she said, go ahead and start these meetings that, that you'd like to have a social network outside of your group therapy.
And so 28 years ago, that's what I did.
I started these therapy network outside my group therapy.
And she started sending her therapist when they would come for a job with her, because she had, she had a contract with the government for sex addicts who were referred by the clerk of the court.
And so with my background.
And doing a lot of work in Codependents Anonymous, Codependents for Sex Addicts, Al-Anon, and Adult Children of Alcoholics, she would send her therapist to me because I had like a five-page worksheet where I wanted to be serious.
Like, if you have sexual trauma, you have to do the work.
You have to talk about it.
You have to talk through all of your issues, which is why I can sit here before you today and talk about these things as though it's something I had for lunch yesterday.
Because the emotional trauma has been so processed through to the point that I was able to, my uncle got arrested for writing several bad checks.
Oh, I didn't finish the story where I got pulled over by the police and I had a warrant for my arrest.
So I ended up at Juvenile Hall.
I'm underage.
And so I called my mom in Connecticut and she said she was living in the New York area and she got in touch with Butch Savilla and within 24 hours, You can look it up today.
You can google the Kansas City crime family.
Within 24 hours I had a letter of recommendation from the chief of police and the chief of fire and was emancipated.
So the Kansas City crime family was really connected to the chief of police and the chief of fire.
Now the reason that that's so important is I think that we're dealing with a planet that's run much like a mafia family.
And so, I've been doing a lot of research for many, many years, but when I got COVID and I knew that I was going to be high risk and I begged for hydroxychloroquine and they said no.
Four different doctors, I was hospitalized, taken by ambulance and I begged for hydroxychloroquine and even asked to use the new law, right to try, because I knew with my heart condition, I'd at that point been diagnosed with fluid in my heart.
So, My defibrillator has a registry, so you can interrogate it, and it will tell you what my fluid levels were.
And so, at that point, they had determined that my fluid levels were dangerous and had prescribed me lisinopril.
So, after I found out that hydroxychloroquine definitely cured COVID, and if you want to know, you can go to the top of my Twitter page, KC Sunshine Pro Singer, and you can see my pinned YouTube video.
When they took all three of my YouTube channels away, they still stole the videos.
And one of them returned, so I pinned it to the top of the Twitter when I was able to get back on Twitter because I was taken off of Facebook, Instagram.
We all went over to Parler, then that was de-platformed, and then we regrouped on Telegram.
And then on November 21st, 2022, when I got back on Twitter, I had been off for two and a half years.
They just booted me off just because I said hydroxychloroquine had saved my life.
Which it did, and that's the story.
You'll see that video at the top of my Twitter page.
But I started smuggling hydroxychloroquine into hospitals and nursing homes, and so I was also being silenced on all social media.
I couldn't talk to my survivors.
They had my email address, but I had maintained They're anonymity.
So I hadn't been keeping track of my survivors.
I left it so that they could always reach me.
So when they silenced me, that was really devastating for a lot of people who needed my support because I would have group meetings at my office every week and then we would have conference calls so people could call in anonymously twice a week and just talk through their trauma because people who've been through this, they get re-stimulated, they get triggered or things happen in their lives or they get into relationships where they get triggered and they need to talk about it.
And so that was why I really wanted to do that for 28 years because I would make sure that I was maintaining my recovery.
And through that process, I was able to confront my mother who rewarded me by never speaking to me again for a while.
I say never, but it was like five years.
She didn't speak to me, which was a nice break for me, but it was, it was traumatic at that time.
So my family disowned me because I went back and I, Confronted my rapist when he was arrested and he was ironically picked up and dropped in the jail right across the street from where he raped my brother and I when we were 14 and 15.
And so I sat down across from him at the Platt County Courthouse in between the glass and the one question that I wanted to ask him because of all my years in therapy, the one thing that I understood was that he was performing oral sex on me and he wasn't finishing.
So I thought that I might, and so did my therapist, thought that I might have some repressed memories where he was raping me and I just wasn't remembering it.
And so I wanted to find out.
Because again, my brother and I, we never discussed it with each other.
We would talk about my mom's craziness and being tossed from foster care to foster care, but never ever talked about the sexual trauma.
We were being programmed.
In fact, I recall specifically being told by my uncle, After he would perform oral sex on me, he said, if you tell anyone, I'm going to tell your mother what you did.
So that was planted on me.
And you got to remember my grandmother taught me, I believe the reason for the enemy and the douche was to prepare me for the satanic ritual abuse that was being performed upon me.
And then my mom, Was sex-kittening me, but it was almost like they were doing this without the knowledge that they had been doing this because they, it's a process where they, nobody discusses it, but it's the same routine.
And I didn't know that back then until I started counseling people who had experienced satanic virtual abuse and they started saying the same things to me.
So I was part of Robert David Steele's group.
I pretty much watched every single video on his pedoempire.org.
I got to meet him in person and when he started Big Bat USA with, so they, they did this tour of the United States.
At that point, he got to 52 cities when he landed here in Corona, California.
So I finally got to meet him in person, but I had, I was just consuming anything in the pedo empire.
So I was really focused on that and not aware.
That child pornography or child sex trafficking had anything to do with our corrupt government.
In fact, I was a rule follower.
All of my children were vaccinated on time.
I wouldn't even jaywalk.
I owned a business for 26 years and, you know, my brother, on the other hand, he had, you know, his license plate would get be expired and he would refuse.
He was so opposed to authority figures that That he would rather, um, you know, avoid the police by turning into gas stations and running away from police.
And I was the one that, at one point that he came to Florida where I raised my kids and, uh, I had to register his car for four years because in California it was four years late.
So I registered it for two years in Florida to give him a fighting chance to go back to California and try to get, become legal.
Because I would say to him, you know, like, I'd rather, you know, be so legal that when I pass by a police officer, I can, you know, wave.
But he went the other route.
So he followed into my mother's footsteps into Hollywood.
And as I mentioned before, he does a lot of comedy.
Well, he got to the opportunity where he edited the film, The Aristocrats, which made it all the way to Sundance in 2005.
And if you've never seen it, I encourage you to look it up.
Just it's, Basically, a hundred of our most beloved comedians, and that includes George Carlin, Whoopi Goldberg, Robin Williams, I think even Phyllis Diller was in it, Bob Saget, Sarah Silverman, you name it, they were all in it, telling the most disgusting, dirty joke.
Same bit, the criteria was that the comedian would come into, or they would go into the Talent Scouts office, and with their family, okay, so you know how the That's the agenda right now is to destroy the family.
So with the family, tell the most disgusting, dirty joke you can possibly tell.
So I'll give you a little preview.
Gilbert Gottfried went in and he brought his wife, the wife and husband going together with a son and daughter and their large dog.
And then before you tell this, I just want to say that because of all the media, I'm going to put this on.
I don't really want to take out the joke.
I mean, I don't, is it necessary to explain it?
Because, you know, I don't, I don't want to get banned from these places.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, Gilbert Gottfried has passed away, but I encourage you to look his up because basically
Without, you know, stealing their copyright, I will just say that what they do is these people go into the talent scout's office, they rape the dog, the daughters, the son, they have sex with each other, and at one point someone says, you might ask why the talent scout didn't say like, hey, call the police, I'm witnessing rape and incest, and that's a whole other story, and all these comedians are laughing and cackling in the background, and so then they continue, it's just humor.
And in that movie, they coined the phrase space docking, which is essentially where the father would defecate into his daughter's birth canal.
So that just gives you an idea of how disgusting it is.
So you've got a hundred comedians, well-known and beloved by our society, telling this most disgusting joke.
And after the talent agent says, Oh my gosh, that's a very interesting act there.
So what do you call it?
Then they snap their fingers.
They say the aristocrat.
So that movie was considered, they put that all together.
My brother edited that film.
And so he came and visited me.
I had, as I mentioned, I raised my five sons in Florida.
And so he would come and visit us in Florida and we watched him just editing this film.
And I was, I would ask him, you know, like be careful because that's pretty dirty stuff around my kids back then.
And so he, we gave him a spare bedroom to do that.
And then it went all the way to Sundance and it was nominated in 2005.
So.
When they had the red carpet event here in Hollywood, I flew out and attended the red carpet event with Paul Provenza and Penn & Teller.
And I had to rent a gown.
It was such a high-end event.
And then afterwards, we went to Spago's, which is the restaurant in Hollywood.
And after hours, they shut it down and it's invitation only.
So that's where I met John Cusack, who offered, that was the after party.
And so he invited me to the after, after sex orgy.
And, um, and I thought to myself, you know, I had been a kind of sex kitten through my, throughout my entire life.
And a couple of little stories I left out was going through John Casablanca's modeling agency.
Then after I graduated, they sent me on my first gig for L'Oreal, L'Oreal and Helene Curtis.
And it was very clear that that was Me, they expected that I was their escort for the evening and they were touching me in ways that made it very clear to me that that I knew that they were expecting to have sex with me.
So I escaped and drove home in my own car and John Casablanca said that they were going to keep my portfolio and that I had already signed all the rights over for them to keep all of my photographs and do whatever they wished with that.
So then I got my stockbroker's license in 1987 and I got my Series 7 So I could sell options, which is the more difficult one because you have to have a math aptitude and calculus, and I'm an actuary by trade.
So I passed my Series 7, and then I was going to go intern.
I was with Titan Capital here in Tustin, California, and they recommended I go intern with Merrill Lynch and Dean Witter, who sat me down with a Rolodex and told me to just call these people about the new issue for the day.
Now, the reason that's very important is that I knew that I would be violating federal law If I were to call people up without assessing their risk tolerance and finding out how old are they?
Do they have a few years before they have to set up their retirement?
Or are they very young?
Can they be more aggressive with their portfolio?
You must know those things as a Series 7.
That's why Martha Stewart went to jail because she was held to a higher standard being a Series 7 registered individual that she was supposed to know.
Well, I knew that I could not sell Um, this day's issue stalked to a person on a Rolodex if I hadn't done that assessment.
So they set up that trap to see if I would jump in it.
So that's where I became very, very aware of the corruption within, you know, the SEC, how that is all established.
They literally set a trap for me to get out of modeling, having been molested and fondled by all these rich and famous people throughout my childhood.
I was hanging out with Evil Knievel and not Batman, but his sidekick Robin and the entire cast of Yeehaw Junction and things of that nature throughout my childhood.
So I knew that these people were not to be trusted, that they were not any different than anyone else.
In fact, most of them drank and were obnoxiously drunk quite often.
And so I decided to take my talents when I moved to Hawaii and after that I I took a job in Florida, and that's where I raised my five sons.
And I'm really glad that I did, because when I did bring them back to California, they had kind of a shock to their system, and they had some roots and some normalcy.
But they're still subject to, you know, the fact that their uncle can get them front row seats into the Jimmy Kimmel Show.
So two of my sons, in particular, my brother, openly worships Satan on his Twitter page.
So he has an award-winning atheist podcast.
I think it's called the Ardent Atheist and Skeptically Yours, where they just bash anyone who has any belief system and they say that religion is a mental illness.
And my children were told by my brother that the fact that I took them to this mega church where I was singing and made him go to church every week, that that was child abuse.
So imagine that you grow up with my childhood.
And then I gave my children the most wonderful childhood, despite the fact that they suffered with muscular dystrophy.
My oldest son's been wheelchair bound since he was 16.
He had 19 orthopedic surgeries.
So I knew my way around a hospital, which is how during COVID, I figured out how to smuggle hydroxychloroquine into the cafeteria areas of hospitals.
Okay.
Okay.
I want you to have enough time to say, you know, if this story has like an An ending or something where I can start asking you questions.
Yes.
So that's what I'm doing.
I'm tying things together.
So I'm creating like the picture of what it's like to be in a mafia family because I think that's what the government is run by mafia.
Everyone is connected.
You, you, if you know these people, then you're going to make it into politics.
They're going to install you into this political position.
They're going to install you into this level at the city council.
If you, Follow the rules under the Hollywood agenda and you sell yourself out and you agree to be a sex kitten and you agreed to all of those terms, then you would have, they would have allowed me to rise through those ranks, which I decided early that I just want to be a mom.
That's what I wanted.
I wanted to be a mom and a good mom.
And so they weren't able to get me.
I didn't have that addictive chemistry, but my mom and my brother do.
So I'm tying that together with the mafia.
The realization with 26 years doing federal pension work, I was watching Google and Alphabet Inc.
buy up all the small and medium-sized businesses.
Like, I would have to do a legal registration on all these businesses.
And so I watched this communist agenda that has been in our congressional record since 1963, that this is exactly how they intended to take down America, was infiltrating big business.
So we have this emergency use authorization bioweapon that's clearly killing people and making people sick.
And they've taken away what can heal is hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, and bendazole and chlorine dioxide because they control big pharma.
And because they couldn't make sure that they would force it on us because it was pushed through emergency use authorization, the corporatocracy that's owned by the individuals.
Because most of us, when we go buy stock in the stock market, we buy preferred stocks.
So we have the dividends because it has a better investment return.
Well, they buy the common stock.
So they control the board of directors and they can dictate policy, which is how corporate America came along and dictated that this bioweapon would be injected Okay, now this is kind of like a divergent because you were on one subject now you've switched to another.
So I'm just trying to come back to the central theme that you were Explaining and so okay so I think people would wonder okay so at a certain point you had five children.
Five children means you married someone.
Is it the same person you married that was an alcoholic or is this a different husband?
I remarried at the age of 29 with three boys and we had two more boys and he was an alcoholic as well but he got into recovery so in all the years we were together he went to his recovery meetings and I continued my Support for sexual trauma survivors.
And so we were like the recovery family.
Our children are very, very aware of the world of recovery and with him in the 12-step program than me working with survivors.
Yeah, so you lived in Hawaii.
Is that right?
Yes, I moved from California for a job and I lived in Hawaii for a while.
So I my ex was in the he was in Kuwait during the Gulf War.
So I also have a lot of military family, let's say.
So I'm in this really bizarre circumstance where I grew up in Hollywood.
I was satanically ritualized through the process of Hollywood.
You sound like you grew up in Kansas, if I don't, I mean... Well, yes, but I was always going, I was always back and forth.
So when I was in school, I was in actually Missouri and Kansas, because Kansas is actually on, it's on the state line.
So half of Kansas City is in Kansas and half is in Missouri.
I see.
And so, but I was always traveling with my mom every school break, so we were either in California or Texas or New Mexico or wherever, traveling with her on her various gigs.
And working for the Mafia, she had some really nice gigs.
So then, going back and forth to Kansas City and then on the road.
All right, so your actual job, you say, is an actuary?
Yes.
Is that correct?
Yes.
How long have you been doing that?
Well, since I was 17.
So it's been 37 years now.
So I've been doing nothing but pensions in all of those years.
So I was an employee benefits trust officer.
So I worked at a bank and I had insurance licenses and I got my stockbroker's license.
And then I worked for pension administration companies.
And then I became an actuary where I was certifying the actual figures for full funding limitations.
And then for the last 26 years, I've been writing Qualified Domestic Relations Orders, as I mentioned, to write the federal court document to separate the pensions when people are getting divorced.
Okay.
So... And that provided the support for my five sons.
I see.
And are you divorced at the moment?
I am.
I am divorced.
And I moved back to California 12 years ago.
All right, so it's a lot for the people to be listening to and hearing all this, but you certainly went through it very quickly.
All right, that's sort of amazing.
You've been through therapy and everything, and just to kind of take it into another area, do you look at your life from a spiritual point of view and try to figure out why it is you got put into this situation?
How do you feel about what it taught you and so and so forth?
Any thoughts about all that?
Yes, I became, my brother and I, we were sent off to Youth for Christ camp in Kansas City on July 17, 1979.
We both became born-again Christians and the irony was that I need, I believe that I needed Jesus to forgive me for being raped by my uncle Because I thought somehow I should have been able to say no.
I drank the cold duck.
I thought it was my fault.
And then when my mom's boyfriend's son, who was 19, raped me vaginally, I thought also that that was my fault.
So I was more than willing to go be rescued by Jesus.
And that's exactly what happened.
So my faith is what ignited in me.
Okay.
This is why all of this happened to me.
So now the Lord is going to build in me a core strength and I'm going to be able to take that strength and go out into the world.
And I believe that I was going to be a wonderful mother and I wasn't going to have any challenges, but of course I ended up with this muscular dystrophy challenge.
So, you know, you would think that someone like me would be like, okay, God, how could you do this to me?
But what really happened is that because of my childhood and as As documented by the Tavistock Institute, when you traumatize these children like this, what they did is they created in me, what was documented is that they create in the survivors enhanced abilities, enhanced stamina, up to 44 times visual acuity and a photographic memory.
So all of those things were present in me, but because I got into therapy very young, I was able to utilize that.
So I had all that hypervigilance and all that awareness.
And the intelligence and the photographic memory.
So that served me well in my business, but it also served me well in my research, which is what I'm doing now is to tie together the whole package of corruption, government corruption, that at its core is child sex trafficking and pedophilia that creates all of this corruption within big pharma, big business, corporate America, and
Hollywood in particular because that's our entertainment industry and who whose society has been taught to worship.
And so that is how all of this has come together.
So as a spiritual being that's in love with the teachings of Christ since that day, I went to the church for some to for survival.
My brother went to comedy and he talks about being raped in his comedy.
He's very open about what happened to him.
He's He's a polyamorous and bisexual and he discusses being raped by her uncle.
So I'm not giving away any, any trade secrets at all.
He does have a CD that's called the purveyor of guilt and subtitled the psychotic ramblings of a chronic masturbator.
So I think it's safe to say that he and I went on two divergent paths, completely different from one another.
And I still hold a deep love for him.
But it, at this point, we're pretty much estranged because I call him on his birthday.
Which is Christmas Day.
I was born Christmas Eve and he was born Christmas Day, so we're almost exactly a year apart.
And I tell him I love him and he tells me to never call him again because I'm a Christian and a conservative.
Two things that he despises more than anything in the world.
Okay.
So, okay, let's look at the muscular dystrophy part of it.
So, where does that come from?
There's nothing in the family history whatsoever.
The only thing that, yeah, there's nothing And when we did the DNA testing on my oldest son, they tested him for Duchenne and Becker, and what they're doing is testing for dystrophin levels, because that's why they call it muscular dystrophy.
The protein levels were abnormal, and they said that he tested negative for Duchenne and Becker, so then they did a muscle biopsy and determined that his dystrophin levels were normal, meaning that he didn't have any type of a dystrophy, but that he had abnormal CPK levels, which is something that Is an indicator of whether or not you're going to have muscle wasting.
So he had the muscle wasting.
So at that juncture, they, we did genetic testing and they said, they tested my DNA and his, and said that it had to be an anomaly because they were not seeing these consistencies in the genetic tests that they have.
Now, since then, my second son has finally accessed the test for Emory-Dreyfus muscular dystrophy.
And it has been definitively determined that what I carry is Emory-Dreyfus muscular dystrophy, so I don't have the muscle wasting, but I have the heart defect, which is that emery encoding to the electrical system of the heart is disintegrating, so I have deadly arrhythmias, and so my children have all of that, plus they're afflicted with the muscle wasting.
Okay, but when I said where did it come from, I kind of mean your family line, your husband's family line, that kind of thing.
Yeah, well they've confirmed that it's X-linked, which means that it's for people who don't know whether you're a girl or boy.
If you have two X chromosomes, you're female, and if you have X and Y, that's boy.
Okay, so it's an X-linked disorder, which means that with me having two X chromosomes, Half of my children should have been male and female.
And you know, if you flip a coin, half of them should have gotten the good X chromosome that since I don't have the muscle wasting, I obviously don't have, I don't carry that disease on both X chromosomes, only one.
So should be, you flip a coin and only half of my male children would have it, but all five had it.
So the doctors said that the chances of that happening are 0.4 of 1%.
So just an absolute bizarre occurrence.
The only thing that I can say is that I have done some research on HEK-293, which is human embryonic kidney cells, which is derived from aborted fetuses that they've been putting in our Pepsi and many of our soda pops for many, many years through Sonomix and C-Mix.
And my mother was addicted to Pepsi.
So when she was awake, she was drinking Pepsi all day and smoking while she was pregnant.
So my brother was born with a premature stomach.
And, you know, little girls are born with every egg that we'll ever have.
So it could very well have been something she consumed while she was pregnant.
So we don't know.
The doctors don't know.
They're still scratching their head.
Because there's no history of it.
Not in my family.
So it would have come with the inheritance of the disease.
I would have inherited it from my mother, who refused to get tested.
But there was, she only had one male children.
So it could be that My brother just didn't get that X chromosome, but it's nowhere in our history at all.
Okay.
Now, you know, because I, are you familiar with Dr. Robert Young?
I know the name.
Well, I've interviewed him several times.
So if you want to learn more, you can watch those interviews, but he's, Becoming quite well known because he came really to the fore around the investigation of COVID and all of that.
He, you know, he's one of those people.
It doesn't mean he's right, but there are two kinds of doctors, as you may know.
One thinks that everything is environmental, more or less, and the other kind of thinks that everything is like a virus and it exists in humans or whatever, or it comes from an animal or wherever.
So they're completely different points of view.
The only thing I would say is that this idea of, you know, if you're interested in pursuing it, it would be to talk to him and to see where he might go with that.
I don't know enough about his research to know where he would go with that, but I can say that His philosophy is that, you know, that viruses are actually an illusion and that they don't even exist and that, you know, a lot of what we're being taught about disease and this and that is all wrong.
And there's a great basis for what he says, okay?
And certainly to do with a bioweapon like COVID.
It's just interesting in terms of your prior life.
Now, I am interested to some degree in why you had this particular kind of family with all these, I don't know what you would call them, pedos, but you didn't really emphasize them being Satanists.
So were they just not intellectually grounded in that way, or did you blank out
images and and thoughts and and philosophies that you were actually being downloaded with or even in your environment books or whatever movies or did you go to church and you know that kind of thing because usually there's a through line to Satanism that these people pursue these sort of sexual things within that con the confines of that Whereas your family actually sounds like it just came out of nowhere.
So can you?
I think it came right out of the Bethel Christian Church where my grandmother, who was an absolute religious fanatic, like she would not watch anything but the 700 Club and Kenneth Copeland.
I don't know if you've ever seen him, but I don't know, that guy gives me the creeps.
And then she had all these really bizarre belief systems that men were innocent, that they couldn't help themselves.
So her husband, At one point, I found out in the second grade that my grandfather was cheating on her and my mom was screaming that her brother was a pervert and that my grandfather had been cheating on her.
And so she excused that because women were wearing skirts around them.
And so there was this process that that side of the family was taught that the women are They can't be resisted in the men.
Okay, but where did your mother, I mean your grandmother, get this?
Her church.
Okay, and what was her church?
It was Pentecostal.
Heavy duty, speaking in tongues, Pentecostal.
There was one service, you know, where everybody was together worshiping and speaking in tongues, and then there was afterwards everybody would go to the basements and then the people would stay and That's where my uncle was ritualized himself by a woman in the church.
In terms of the Pentecostal church, I don't know a lot about that church, but does it have a history of Satanism?
Have you researched that at all?
Yes, I have.
In fact, the work that I did with Robert David Steele and pedoempire.org, and even though he's dead, supposedly, that website's still up, so I'm very hopeful that he went into hiding because I loved him.
Sure.
He was like a father figure that I never had, and I just devoured his intel.
So, yes, I've seen a lot of depositions, and in 28 years, I've worked with a lot of people who have described similar issues with me.
That's where I say that the whole basement thing is a very, very common thing.
So, worship above in the church, downstairs, candles, darkness, sex.
And that is something that I have seen and I have been, I've had many, many survivors tell me that that has happened to them.
And the bizarre part is, That after they get raped in the basement, then they come back upstairs and they all sit down and pray over their meals and act like a good Christian family and there be love throughout the community.
Okay.
Now I appreciate that.
Now I want to ask you another question having to do with you.
You were in Kansas in that city and there was a mob that was prevalent in that city and you, your mother was working for them.
Is that right?
Yes, it was actually Missouri.
So, it was Kansas City, Missouri, North Kansas City, right off of Vivian Road, and that area, they had a little area where that family, the Sevilla family, lived, and they called it Little Italy.
It was where they... So, the family has Italian roots?
Yes.
All right, and then, was your mother involved in church?
Yes, yes, she was, and it was very interesting, too, because I was just even thinking about that today, because she was involved in church, but she was also very conflicted by what her family had done to her.
So, and she would, as I mentioned, she would have nervous breakdowns on almost an annual basis, sometimes more often, where she would end up in the psych ward of a local hospital, and so I'd have to visit my mom at these, in these psych wards, and so on and so forth.
It was like a regular, oh yeah, this is my life, But yes, religion was always like a psychosis element in the family.
So, for example, my mother decided that we had to get baptized.
One night, she just decided, and she made my brother and I stay up all night, and we had to read every Bible verse about baptism, and then the next day, whether we believed it or not, and I didn't, we were marched into a Lutheran church, and Gotten baptized and there was some kind of a process where she believed she had tried to kill herself that year.
And the family at that church had kind of taken her in under her wing and so on and so forth.
And she believed that she had some spirits and things like that.
So they were trying to help her deal with that pull of whatever she would blame whenever she would misbehave.
You know, the devil made me do it.
So, there was always that element.
Okay, now, um, just, uh, bear with me here.
So, sounds like, um, your grandmother, you know, if you don't mind my saying so, okay, um, sounds like she was possessed.
Okay, and did you have indication of that?
Yes.
Well, we thought she was diabetic and, uh, we just thought that she would have these freakouts and it was just like, uh, you know, a blood sugar issue.
But no, she was stark raving, like she would talk to herself.
She had paranoid delusions and she was always, you know, somebody's trying to break in the house.
Somebody's doing this.
And, you know, it was, it was really hard to be around her because she was, she was very sketchy.
And so when school started, when I was five, I was very happy that she just could not handle my hyperactive brother anymore.
So we got booted over to my dad's.
Mom, and she was, she was a saint.
She was an absolute angel.
She raised over 30 children.
By the time that she passed away, she was, she still had a child that she had taken into her home.
And we were just one of many children that she took in.
So I had her, she was involved with the Unity Church in Unity Village, Missouri.
And so she taught me that God is love and that you need to take your talents because obviously my mom had trained me to sing.
And dance.
And I was specifically targeted for some reason by the Italian Mafia, because I have a unique eye condition where I have what my eye doctor calls central heterochromia.
So in my driver's license, it just says my eyes are hazel, but I actually have four distinct bursts of color and they don't change in the sunlight.
And that was something that they really, they said was amazing.
They would just comment about that all the time.
And in fact, even through John Casablanca's modeling agency, they really, really focused on my eyes and my eye color, which is why I was doing L'Oreal and Helene Curtis, because they wanted to focus specifically and maybe capture my eyes specifically.
So they were very much paying attention to that part of me, the singing, dancing, and the unique eye color.
You're saying the father, the mother of the father?
I'm saying my mother's family.
My mother's side of the family.
And what is their last name?
Skinner.
Okay.
And where do they go back to?
Is it Italy as well or is that Germany?
My grandfather claimed to be American Indian and so we never had any of that documented but there was a lot of talk and he was he had all the you know American Indian.
He was always wearing their jewelry and things and he taught a lot about meditation and, and, you know, just the tenets of the American Indian.
And so I used to joke because of all the sexual dysfunction that I said, yeah, I'm sure somebody in my family raped an Indian at some point, but on my mom's side or my dad's side of the family, my, my aunt has taken the time to trace our heritage back to Ireland, to the McDermott.
Okay.
Which I think had something to do with why the Italians, uh, there has, there's some kind of a history with the Italians and the Irish too.
So there, there was something about that, but their main interest in me was the fact that I could sing.
I was taught to sing with, uh, my mom, uh, taught me Dionne Warwick and Aretha Franklin.
So when I began singing, I sounded like I was, I even to this day, if you hear me sing and you don't see my face, people think I'm a black woman because that cadence was What I, what I started singing and even now sing Whitney Houston and things like that.
So, um, that the fact that I could sing and she developed my vocal cords and all of that strength, that core strength to really be able to build out the song.
That was, that was something that they were just, I was, I was going to go somewhere and they, I was betrothed to the Mafia's son.
He was my boyfriend in fourth, fifth, sixth and seventh grade.
So that's why I went to him at 21.
And ask for permission to leave the family because I knew that they were the ones that protected me.
They were the ones that had me emancipated and that was the only place that ever felt safe.
Okay, so when you had all of these, this sort of brutal younger childhood, you didn't tell anyone, is that correct?
Well, we all talked about The, the abuse, but nobody ever talked about the sexual abuse.
So we all talked, everybody knew my mom was abusive.
She, everybody knew she was an alcoholic, everybody.
That's not what I'm asking.
I was asking about the sexual abuse.
So you never told anyone about the sexual abuse?
No, I never discussed it with anyone except my therapist at 17.
So I went into my therapist's office and I said, I've, I've been told to never ever speak of this, but I must speak to someone, and I went in to talk specifically about the sexual abuse, and I was lucky.
I got a really, really good therapist who she understood.
She was a great listener.
She helped me talk it out.
She used hypnosis to make sure that I didn't have any other repressed memories, and that's why I confronted my uncle in jail, and when I asked him, I just want to know, how many times did you rape me?
Because even though technically performing oral sex on me is rape, that was something I came to terms with many years later.
So at that point, I just thought he raped me once.
And he swore, he burst into tears, because that was his MO, super emotional and all that, burst into tears.
And he's like, no, no, it was only the one time.
And then he discussed with me the details of being raped in the basement of his church by a woman.
And so we had like 30 minutes together.
I think they have a limit.
It was a Saturday.
So I visited him in jail.
And so that period of time I had with him and then I left there and I went and confronted my grandmother, his mother, and I said, You know, this is what Toby did to me.
He's dead now, by the way.
He molested his own biological granddaughter, confessed, and then shot himself.
So that was a good day.
One day when my brother and I actually rejoiced together, but I confronted her.
And that was back in the olden days when you, they had the landline phones, and so she went up to take a call from him in the jail, and I went down in the kitchen, and I unscrewed the little You know, hand part took the little metal thing out so that I could listen in on the phone call and lift it up the button and just listen.
And I heard her say that if she comes and wants to file criminal charges against you that I will testify against her.
This is my own grandmother saying that she's going to testify against me that I was such a little snake that I crawled all over his lap.
So to be, you know, given these evil attributes of a child And even though I'd gone through all of this therapy, I was not as upset about that as my brother.
So I called my brother and I told him, and you got to remember again, my brother and I are not talking.
I don't know that he's been raped at this point.
He knows I've been raped because I've told the whole family.
It took about a year for him to finally admit that that had happened to him too.
But he was so angry when my grandmother had said that, that I was like a little snake.
To this day, he'll put it in his comedy about how evil our family is.
And had nothing to do with her from that point.
Okay.
Now, in terms of, I just want to put it in context and I don't know how long we've gone for a while, I think.
Okay.
So, but to put it in context, your family was working or involved with the mob, the local mob of Kansas, Missouri, right?
Yep.
Okay.
And they had these church link-ups as well.
What about, did they have any military or governmental positions in your family?
Not that I know of, except that my uncle went into the Marine Corps and he was dishonorably discharged the night that he raped my brother and I. But as far as I know, no.
And the Italian family was very Catholic.
So we had to, I had to go through a series of To be a goddaughter, I had to take some classes in the Catholic Church to be brought into that fold.
And it was very unofficial because we were not blood related.
But at that point in time, Nick Sevilla was in prison.
He was the head of the Sevilla family.
And so I was in the family when they let him out of prison because he had cancer and he died shortly thereafter.
So while he was in prison, His son, Carmen, that we call Butch, was the head of the Mafia and that was, that was who my mom worked for directly.
Okay.
And they owned all the nightclubs, you know, in the River Key in Missouri, in particular, they own all the nightclubs.
And, you know, if you wanted to be in entertainment and you wanted to work at any of these nice restaurants, you had to be a part of that club.
Right.
All right, so I guess, you know, we should probably try to wrap this up to some degree.
I'm trying to also put your family and then their mafia connections in with the overall sort of structure of the United States, if you will, and how this whole thing was allowed to continue.
But one of the things that I see is that you also were Strangely, because, you know, this is a little foreign to me, but you wanted to be liked and you wanted to please people, so you didn't want to do the opposite.
You didn't want to, you know, I guess, at least be a rebel until you went against the, you did the hydrochloric and became a, also, but then you were a counselor, right, to these groups?
Yeah.
And when did you start being a counselor?
Well, 28 years ago is when I started helping others.
What ages?
Can you give me an age?
Like, I don't know what's 28 years for you.
Well, it's, well, 28 years ago, I had my third son.
So I was, I was a mom.
Um, I'm 58 now.
So, so yeah.
So 28 is like, okay, but just say about 30.
I just got married.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yes.
All right.
So you started to, to take what you'd learned and, and apply it with, you know, Yeah.
Okay.
I guess, you know, simply because this is going so long, I don't want to take too much time.
In terms of, have you studied Satanism and sort of anything to do with Satan?
Have you studied?
I have only through the Robert David Steele's webpage.
Okay.
I didn't do that series, but did he have things about a person?
We have a whistleblower on our website called Svali.
S-V-A-L-I.
Did you ever hear about that person?
Yes, I've heard the name.
If you check out that website, you'll see that he's got analog depositions of many, many people about satanic ritual abuse.
And that's really kind of where I tie things together, because I had all of these broken pieces.
You know, why would my grandmother do what she did?
Why would this happen?
Because usually it happens in a societal context.
Yeah.
Where people think they can get away with certain things, regardless of how bad they are by nature inside, I guess.
But to manifest that, they have to feel that they are You know, being sponsored or encouraged or allowed on some level.
And also this idea that was built into the story that you're telling me, because I've interviewed other abductees that have been, you know, ritually bruised and all this kind of stuff.
And it's always interesting and also if you get into the Me Too movement, When the people talk and you probably followed that story right with Weinstein and the whole thing.
Absolutely.
So every minute.
Okay.
So the idea is that women get them are in positions where they're overpowered or they and they don't say no that that seems to be a really strong through line even in your case.
Okay, where at some point you guys don't You aren't given the right, and this is a true thing, that women, especially a certain age group and going back in time, right, where women were not allowed to say no.
They basically were groomed to please, to get along, to go along, to smile, and not to make a problem, right?
Yeah.
So that seems to be kind of a through line that I see and because I was kind of like the opposite.
And so I'm not saying, you know, I mean, I didn't have that kind of thing in my childhood, but I do know that I have some for some reason.
I have a lot of knowledge about it.
Okay that I came in with in this incarnation.
So it's not foreign to me, if you will.
But the one through line that I've seen all the time is these women will never tell me about things where they fought and they did anything back or, you know, kind of thing.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, and but when I was a little kid, I was a fighter, you know from day one and stuff like that.
So I always find that really interesting and I think it's really important because it's built into the society.
It's built into the programming of women and young women, especially and but it's also very much part of the Christian culture that women in the Christian culture, whatever you want to call that or religion or whatever are often You know, people pleasers, they smile, they act sweet, they do all those kind of things, right?
Yep.
They don't talk back, they don't do all these things, right?
Yeah.
So, there's definitely a through line with that.
I think there's a satanic aspect that either you know about and we haven't had time to talk about or that is still buried, you know, with all due respect, in there somewhere because I sense that, okay?
And I think that's interesting in terms of churches in America and how this stuff breeds because, you know, it all goes back to the Vatican.
Yes.
And if you've ever seen, actually seen the Vatican, the pictures of the Vatican where it's like a snake and the whole thing, I mean the place is so reptilian, it's just over the top.
Yeah.
And so that must also permeate all the churches and all the different religions that are harking back really to the Pope, right?
Yes.
So And the funding.
It's the funding mechanism.
So that's why you see the megachurches.
Because the issue that I had when I was doing all this work with sexual trauma recovery survivors, I was going to the church that I sang at and I'm like, where's our food kitchen?
Where's our homeless shelter?
Why do we not have a domestic violence shelter?
What do we, you know, we have all of this beautiful furniture and we have a full band and, and, you know, we've got the police that are directing traffic on Sundays because we have so many people that come here.
Why don't we have these basic resources?
And I was not received very friendly.
I noticed that the whole concept of 501c3 and c4 seem to be a corrupt system and you know in my years as a stockbroker and and then just observing the corporate structures and all of that so yes I I've always been very spiritually attuned to the point of like psychic intuitiveness but I've also been very very aware that I have to cleanse that
And always reconnect to God with God's white light because when you when you feel things in other dimensions, you have to make sure that the negative energy doesn't come in as well because my brother openly worship Satan.
He's got two of my kids convinced that Satanism is just self-pleasure.
So that's again, but that's again the satanic side coming in.
So again, I Obviously, maybe you don't talk to him much, but what I'm saying is that sounds like he was inculcated with the Satanic, maybe symbolism and, you know, through line of knowledge and obsession.
Yes.
Had to have gone, gotten into him in the process of these other things that happened.
So it comes from somewhere and it's just interesting to see how it seeps in.
Yeah, I mean, I really appreciate it, Casey, you know, your story, and I think that there's a lot more going on there.
I'm, you know, sorry, but I have to say.
I did it.
There's a lot.
I mean, I could talk for hours, but I try to like kind of bring it together because this is like When I realized that the government was corrupt and they were lying about hydroxychloroquine and that we're dealing with a bioweapon, then I really started, I mean, I've spent the last three years waking up at four in the morning and until I go to bed, I research, research, research.
So yeah, I've been tying it all together for a while now, so there's still some loose ends as far as, you know, Well, I think very specifically in terms of your own life because I think these are things that they're kind of like gaps in the story that I think would maybe kind of make sense of it in some way.
Rather than it just being kind of like random random horribleness type of thing.
There seems there is a connecting through line with the church.
There's a I'm not sure if you actually said the Mafia if anything protected you so they weren't practicing that aspect.
It doesn't sound like although I who knows but you know, I'm saying where is it coming in from?
It's got to come in from somewhere like these ideas these philosophies.
That permeated the church and so on.
So yeah, you know, I think it's a very interesting study for us to consider here on planet Earth as we uncover these through lines that really go all the way back to the reptilians and Catholic Church.
Where did this start to come in to our country and then how did it you know permeate it and and because these people were not like victims of Epstein you know they were not honey-potted and you know and brought in you know to to blackmail them these were people that actually you know participated willingly with in theory no blackmail and but with maybe a prior relative being into this kind of thing or something like that so there's a very strange
My theory, I have a real quick summary theory, and my theory is that, you know, we talk about the Anunnaki's and the reptilians and so forth, but my theory is that when we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we literally ripped open an atomic wormhole in the firmament of Earth, and that created, like, the availability for demonic entities, I'm going to say, to come over from other realms, because I think in my childhood,
Even with this horror that I went through, for the most part, most people were good.
And now we're to a point where we have a lot of sociopathy.
We have a lot of disconnected souls.
We have, and I think we can tie that directly to the devastation that happened.
And also these underground biological labs where the rich and famous are splicing their DNA with the DNA from 45 other elements that they found at Area 51 and other places like that.
So I think that they've actually created demons in themselves by playing designer baby with their own DNA.
Okay, well that's fair enough, except that let me take you back before that, because the Nazis in World War II, and if you watch my interviews with William Tompkins, and you go into the earlier project paperclip, this is all before Hiroshima.
Okay, yeah.
Hiroshima was more like a crescendo.
Yeah, I think it was already happening.
It was already happening in the early 1900s, even in the United States, and of course goes back centuries and on the planet.
And so there's a much deeper roots, I have to say.
I'm sure some of that happened in Hiroshima, but there were other incidents because there have been We don't know about it because they don't talk about it, but they have, you know, done in the Bikini Atoll and various places done bombs testing, you know, all this kind of thing.
So they've been opening portals into other dimensions for quite some time here on planet Earth.
Yeah and uh some of these were already here because we have um if the do you travel much in your life doesn't sound like I have but not lately okay well there are sites you know ancient sites with lots of reptilian influence and energy and all kind of stuff that is already here on the planet and do you think one of the things they did was they paid the the American soldiers to destroy
Reptilian evidence in ancient sites in Syria, in other words old temples and all this kind of thing, destroyed, bombed out of existence because they're trying to hide the reptilian influence that has already been implanted in earth in many places and that goes around the world.
So it's just interesting to see how the infiltration happens and where it Happens.
And then, you know, each person has their story, how it influenced them, how it messed with them.
So, um, yeah.
Yeah.
It's very, when I think about that and having been, you know, this is back through millennial, it kind of terrifies me because if it's been going on for gazillion years, what makes us think that we're going to be able to fix anything now?
So that kind of terrifies me.
So I kind of like my little being in my own little denial bubble where I say, okay, this happened in 1947.
And then you had your own demons.
Yeah, that's what I know.
But I think it's important to realize that if this is, if this is, if the seeds of this and the influence of it and the sort of bloodline of it, because bloodline, follow bloodline is really important.
I would advise following your bloodlines.
Okay.
Beyond just how they came to the United States, but earlier than that.
And, you know, that all of us have to realize those influences.
And they continue, so they're nurtured, they're brought in, especially nurtured, it appears, in churches.
That seems like a real social cohesion place where this stuff is happening and where kids are actually being probably molested more to do with the church than I would say average stuff.
We know it happens in schools.
We know it happens in orphanages, for example, anywhere where children aren't properly looked after in a caring way.
Um, but anyway, so, all right.
Thank you for being here on the show.
Thank you for sharing your story.
Maybe we'll have you back in the future and we'll, you know, go over some new things that might've come to you in that period of time.
And, um, it's nice to get to know you a little bit and it's not the nicest way, but it's nice to, you know, to see you and you made it through.
And I mean, like, wow, what a trooper.
So you.
Had a real amazing desire to, um, subject yourself to the horribleness and then to come out of it, help cure, you know, help cure, bring awareness to other people that have had similar things, but it sounds like your journey is not done.
So I'm here for my kids and my grandkids.
Okay.
And so I think it's worthwhile to, to hear more about where you're going to go with all of this.
So thank you again.
And thanks for watching anyone who's been watching and we do have a disclaimer here on the site.
So, you know medical as well as regular.
So I'll be playing that after we hang up here and just for protection and thanks again.
Take care.
Thank you.
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