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June 15, 2023 - Project Camelot
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JC COLE: PREPPING FOR WHATEVER COMES ALONG…SUSTAINABLE FARMS
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Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and very happy to be here today.
So I have JC Cole with me, and he is, well, a very studied engineer who has expanded into things like sustainable farms, prepping for anything and everything that comes along.
He is also partnering with the physicist who I've interviewed numerous times, which is Richard Allen Miller.
A wonderful man, and you may have seen my interviews with him.
So, the two of them have been working on looking at our future and what we can do to make sure that we're prepared for possibly actually a Carrington-level event that, according to Richard Allen Miller and his mathematics, could actually happen in end of March, beginning of April next year, 2024.
There is another theory out there about 2025, and so we're coming on some earth change possibilities and so on, so I think this is a really good time to have a guy like JC Cole on my show.
I've already created a page for him with links to his articles.
He's got numerous articles he was interviewed.
I've also put a link to his interview with Robert David Steele that many people will know who I interviewed and he interviewed me numerous times as well.
He was a big fan of J.C.
Cole, and so that was lots of fun to see, and I watched some of that interview that you did with him.
So, J.C., why don't you give yourself a bit of background for those that are new to you and your work, and answer one question that I got a little bit confused about.
Did you write a book, or was it an article about the Gray Swans?
Okay, I wrote articles on the Gray Swans.
For those that know, Nassim Tlaib, the excellent economist, the professor, wrote a book called The Black Swan.
And the Black Swan is an unpredictable event that's catastrophic.
So I called mine the gray swans that are predictable events that are catastrophic.
And I looked at the supply chain and said, there are at least 13 events that could collapse our supply chain.
And so I started to write on those to bring the awareness to people.
And of course, Robert, I actually saw your interview with Robert David Steele.
And I said, Oh, my.
And it turned out we both went to the same university, which is Lehigh.
And it's a small school in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, but very famous for engineering.
And so I contacted Robert, and I said, Please look at this document.
And he said, Oh, my goodness, you're correct.
Right, and I guess the rest is history.
He then went on to publish a lot of your articles on his website and obviously interview you and so on.
Picking up where maybe Robert David Steele left off, and sadly he has passed on if that information is correct.
We don't always know this, but assuming that's true.
So, what would you say?
Can you describe the situation as you see it right now?
And by the way, I have linked your Grace Swan article, I think it's that one.
As well on the website, but I also put it on my Telegram channel for people to read, and on that you do list what, at least I think that might have been written around March or May of this year, where you were listing all the events that were happening, you know, fires and this and that around our country.
So I think that that's maybe a jumping off point, but you could talk about Here we are in June, really.
Is it really almost the end of June?
No, middle of June.
So, talk about where you think we're at, our vulnerabilities, as you see them.
I'd be happy to, but let me give just a little bit of background.
I have a degree in civil engineering, which is what builds society and a degree in geology.
And so about 1992, I got bored and went to look for some adventure and ended up in Eastern Europe in the country of Latvia.
And what ended up happening is that Latvia, in my opinion, became the focal point for the expansion of the EU and NATO.
And I was I was the President of the American Chamber of Commerce, which was the largest private business group, and was involved with a lot of the meetings.
So, I spent 18 years in Eastern Europe, in the capital city, the western capital city closest to Moscow.
I also built, my investments were in real estate, and I was the landlord for the American Ambassador, the Italian Ambassador, the European Commission The Dutch Embassy.
So, I had a lot of very interesting experiences, you may say.
And I experienced the collapse of the Soviet supply chain.
So, 2010, I realized things were going to get very difficult in Eastern Europe.
And we had gone through a terrible economic crash.
I'd actually been through Yeah, so I was looking for adventure and I found it, which leads to be careful what you ask for.
So I came back to America, we have a family farm, and I said we have to prepare for what I would believe is an economic collapse.
And then I started to dig down, as we'd say, the rabbit hole.
And you added a lot of this because I listened to you for many years.
And then I realized that our supply chain is positioned to collapse.
So in a nutshell, our electric grid is like our last jaw.
It can collapse very easily by either Mother Nature or our enemies.
Or just basic stupidity.
And we can't rule that out.
And our supply chain is so overextended that if it collapses, the majority of Americans no longer have food delivered.
So I said, what's the solution?
How do we create the solution?
And it really comes that we have to build a few million small local sustainable farms.
So I did something called SWOT analysis.
It's a business way of analyzing strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats on America.
And almost nobody does this.
I'm just shocked, right?
But I came from overseas and I did this analysis and I found out We have major threats facing us that nobody is identifying or, or very few people are identifying and taking action for.
Of course, one is the hardening of the electric grid.
And, and so I said, okay, how do we, you know, one, how do we individually prepare for this?
And two, how do we create what's known as food security in the United States?
which is a national security issue.
Right.
And with China actually going around buying a lot of agricultural areas in the middle of the country, primarily, although California has certainly they've certainly gone through California, which has been a great producer up to now, I believe, although which has been a great producer up to now, I believe, although I think I know we have, we still have vineyards, so we'll have wine, perhaps, if you can afford it, no matter what happens here, but
Can you speak to that?
The challenge is not just to have security, but to also, even at the juncture, and I know that some people are protesting in various states, even state governors now, against Chinese buying of their lands.
So what can you say about that?
The first is that California is quite the pearl.
It's probably the seventh largest economy in the world, so it stands as its own as a country.
And that the Chinese are actually more, let's just say the CCP, are buying up strategic farmlands.
They bought up what's known as Smithfield.
Sorry, go ahead.
I had something happen.
And so they bought up Smithfield, which is the largest pork producer, I believe, in the world.
And they're buying up a considerable amount of farmland in the United States.
And some governors are trying to put a halt to that.
Also, if you look at what's happening at our southern border, it's a nightmare.
And that we have an extensive amount of people coming across and that it's been reported that we have a very large amount of mainland Chinese men of military age coming across.
Sure, absolutely.
Well, okay, so, and I hope, I don't know what's happening right now, but we seem to be flashing on and off on Facebook, so I'm hoping this is being recorded properly.
Okay, but we were sort of at the mercy of that situation.
I'm not sure what's going on there, but maybe the people in the chat can let me know if they lost any piece of this so we can have it repeated.
But meanwhile, so we're talking about Chinese buying up lands and so on.
Do you have any statistics in terms of the United States as to how much they have bought?
No, I actually do not have any statistics on it.
But we just know that it's happening.
We do know that they're purchasing a very large amount of world Food commodities.
My understanding is they are not able to produce enough food by themselves to feed their population.
And one of the things to realize is that the number one cause of revolution in human history is famine.
And so I would think that if the CCP wants to stay in power, they're going to try to make sure that there's no famine.
And part of it is that we have the best, the biggest and the most productive breadbasket on the globe.
And the second one is Ukraine, which also is in conflict.
Right.
Now, that's kind of an interesting dynamic over there.
And then one has to wonder, Wasn't this considered when they decided to start bombing the hell out of it, so to speak, and this even there was a recent event that happened to do with this uranium deposit that the British sent over there.
Blindly allow, you know, putting it in a vulnerable place to begin with, but also where it could be attacked.
And of course it was attacked.
Who really attacked it?
We don't even know.
I don't think even, I don't think it's been released.
It could be NATO.
It could also be Putin.
It could also be the Ukrainians themselves because they are working for NATO.
As I understand, Zelensky is basically doing the bidding of NATO.
So, any thoughts on that?
I mean, that sounds insane, because there's not a lot of alternatives to that, right?
My belief is that there is this battle going on for the globe and humanity, and that some of the dark, let's just call them dark forces, are saying, Oh, we have to defend the democracy of Ukraine.
And you go, wait a minute, I was over there, you know, in 92, no one really gave a damn about Ukraine.
And so now we're risking a third world war, and possibly nuclear over over a country we didn't care about.
And if the British cared so much, or actually the British government, because I think Brits are pretty decent people, but the British government cared so much, why would they send depleted uranium to the largest breadbasket in Europe of which depleted uranium will pollute for a thousand years?
Right.
By the way, the Americans right now are also considering sending depleted uranium, right?
These are hypocrites.
Right.
Well, okay, but I, you know, I can't believe these individuals, I mean, I'm not trying to give them credit for being that intelligent, but I do believe that any, you know, it's not rocket science to know that you don't send something like that to a Sort of a war-torn, even a place where you've got a lot of secret bio labs and money laundry and the whole nine yards is human trafficking as well.
So it's not, none of this was a secret.
The British are fully aware of that, if not fully engaged in that, and so are the Americans, right?
And the Europeans.
So, you know, it kind of boggles the mind to think about what these humans, if you even want to call them humans, are thinking along these lines.
But, okay, so that's that situation.
I do want to put, I mean, you know, as fascinating or as pathetic as our political situation off, you know, outside the borders of the United States, let's bring it back into this country, because I guess that's your area of expertise.
And you have consulted presidents.
Is that correct?
I've consulted Latvian presidents, Latvian prime ministers.
I've met our presidents a couple of times, but I didn't consult with them.
And about the rebuilding of Latvia after the Soviet Union collapsed.
So I got a lot of experience on how to rebuild a country.
And now if we look, our country is in dire straits.
And so how do we rebuild it?
Well, the first thing is to make sure we have what's known as food security.
So let me run a little bit on that.
We import about 50% of our food.
Our supply chain stops for any reason, that stops.
Of the 50% of the food we grow, about 80% is west of the Mississippi.
So people on the East Coast do not grow enough food to sustain themselves.
And so you'll have this issue.
And now because of the, let's call it the interstate system that President Eisenhower put in for defense, Which was a good move.
We have a just-in-time delivery system and refrigeration that can deliver food from California to New York in three days.
Well, so that's where a lot of it's grown.
I think 90% of our vegetables that America grows is in California.
So if that, if for any reason our supply chain collapses, you know, The food isn't delivered.
And if you go back to, let's say, the 1950s, about 30% of Americans were on the farm.
Well, today, it's just under 2%.
So if that system breaks, we have deep trouble.
And we have about two weeks, I estimate about two weeks of food locally before that runs out.
So we have two weeks to solve a major problem.
And as you noticed, Our government doesn't solve anything quickly.
Right.
Now, there is a movie based on a book called Atlas Shrugged and I think it, for some reason, it seems kind of pertinent at this time because it's all about sort of a Biden-esque type government and how the
Intellectual capital, let's say, of the country and innovation and all of that that has really made America great is suddenly being squandered and during lockdowns made doing business almost impossible.
So we've had, you know, quite a shot across the bow in that regard.
But, you know, I know that things in some ways are recovering.
Other people might say they're not.
What do you think about that?
It's interesting that you brought that up, because there's actually two parts to that.
The first is, what was the end of Atlas Shrugged?
Well, the end was that communists and socialists finally destroyed New York City, and Con Edison ran out of money and shut down the electric grid.
And the transportation system of the United States fails.
And so you scratch your head and you say, wow, is that what's happening?
Because it almost looks like it is.
We have this immigration issue in New York City.
They don't arrest prostitution or drug use.
Crime is going up.
Theft is going up.
So we're seeing the destruction of our inner cities.
That's one.
But then again, we get in, can I call it woo-woo world?
That of predictive programming.
And I'm not sure if you interviewed John Todd or not, but I heard back from the 80s, John Todd claimed to be an Illuminati who left, and he claimed that Atlas Shrugged was the game plan for the globalists.
Now, I don't know if that's true or not, But I find it very suspicious.
Well, interestingly enough, the movie just cropped up in three parts on, I think it was Amazon Prime, if I have it right.
And so I just want to say that I'm sure that's not an accident.
Uh, that right now, suddenly, you know, it's, it's easy to find and I actually recommended it to my, uh, Telegram viewers, uh, recently.
I had read the book many, many years ago.
I, I, I am a fan of, of Ayn Rand's books, um, wonderful books, Fountainhead and so on.
So, um, I do think she was right about kind of where we were headed.
The funny thing is, it's happening now.
I don't necessarily think it was really happening when she wrote the book.
You know what I'm saying?
It was in the offing because of some of the people and the kinds of decisions they were making.
But the idea that of not supporting, again, innovation and industry That is sustainable and making that necessarily the right way as opposed to the wrong way and so on and so forth.
And you get Trump, even in his recent speech, again saying that we're standing on plenty of renewable oil in our own country, but we're now importing from Venezuela.
Quite a dirty game, if I understand it, and we have container ships while I'm on the subject of the Long Beach Harbor that have been sitting there for quite a while already now.
And this is.
I have some videos that I've been putting out, not me, but I've been showing them around, where other people are actually observing this situation and saying, this is the end of the supply chain, that it is stopping.
Some say it has stopped.
Are you aware of that?
And what do you think?
Yes, I am aware of that.
But let me just add in one interesting piece of information being from New York.
I was born in New York City.
All right.
But fortunately, my parents moved out and I was raised outside in the suburbs.
The statue for Atler Shrugged is right at Rockefeller Center.
Oh, right.
That's true.
That's true.
Very, very interesting.
So, yes, I'm watching very closely.
the supply chain and all that's happening with it, or as much as I can.
And one of the things is we have continually issues happening with it.
Of course, everybody knows what happened with the COVID.
And at the same time, right now, we have a strike going on, shutting down, I think, both Seattle and Los Angeles ports.
But also-- What is the strike and when did it start?
I think it just started a couple of days ago.
Okay.
Is it the truckers or is it someone else?
No, it's actually, I guess, the longshoremen at the port themselves.
And then they're just, as we say, death from a thousand cuts, right?
Where we, oh yes, we can get through a strike, except for we're continuing to have this And there's rumor, actually, I haven't seen it too, but there's a staggering amount of ships, container ships, off the coast of China, sitting empty, not loading, not doing anything.
I think this Monkey Works has reported on that.
So, so, and people don't realize how, how dangerous this is.
The Chinese make about 80% of the pharmaceutical components for our drugs, and that if we, for some reason, go to war, that gets shut off, so you can forget about antibiotics.
Okay, well I'm not a fan of any of that stuff.
That's a bad thing, but continue.
Yes, well at the same time, Neither am I, but at the same time our herbalists are not prepared to handle 330 million people.
Although I would really like part of this is to start, you know, a garden and especially if you're herbalists and start gearing up for a change.
And one of the things that really is interesting to me was there I was in Eastern Europe and I had no idea.
I really, I was totally a blank slate on what was going on.
And I sat there and I scratched my head and I said, why is this a peaceful collapse?
You know, 300 million former Soviets went into, broke up into 15 countries, and there was really no fighting.
And I came out with two basic opinions.
One was that Life was so bad during the 70s and 80s for the Soviets, they were now optimists that life would get better.
They might get their stomach full in 10 years, but that life would increase.
That was one.
But two was they never had a threat of starvation because two reasons.
One, the majority of the Soviet supply chain of trading food was within 30 miles of population centers.
So when the system broke, the farms were about 30-40 miles away.
That was one.
And the second one was that during the 70s, it was so bad that they were allowed to grow a garden.
They would call it a dacha.
And actually, in Russian, dacha kind of means anything from a palace to a shed in the countryside.
So 90% had what we would call a garden.
Or we would actually call it a victory garden, if we go back to World War II, where they could produce up to 70% of their yearly food.
And to this day, I'm married to a Latvian, My mother-in-law, who's in her mid-80s, is still gardening.
She won't give it up.
You know, even though she doesn't need it, she just won't give it up.
So, if you look at America, right, how many of us have actually productive gardens?
And it's 1%.
It's 1%.
So they had food security and we don't.
Right.
Now, and obviously this seems to be intentional.
In fact, I heard that, I think what they call, do they call them heritage seeds?
They're trying to, uh, comment here that, what?
Heirloom, heirloom.
Heirloom.
And so stop us from having those and from being able to replenish our gardens, so to speak, right?
Correct.
In other words, they're trying to modify them into GMOs so that they can't regrow unless you buy them from that company, which I won't mention.
And so the old system, they're trying to get rid of.
Okay, now what I want to do is make a transition here because I'd like you to tell us what your solution is and I know to some degree, you know, and I want to know because big population centers have to consider this, right?
Whether it's LA or New York or whatever the big city is, right?
They have to go to these, you call them safe haven farms or whatever, And can you describe that, and have you changed your model over the years, or do you think that the model you started out with is still as viable, considering our situation, you know, the very particulars of our situation?
So, yes, and so it's actually a two-part model.
The first part is what I call quick form, and In other words, we are so behind the eight ball that we have to create a huge amount of small local farms.
And we just don't have the farmers.
We don't have the ability to teach that amount of farming that quickly.
So instead, what I did was I looked at a model of how to produce things quickly.
And by the way, in Eastern Europe, I had a manufacturing of prefabricated housing, so I knew how to make houses very quick.
So I said, let's apply that to farming.
And that's where you have a limited menu of what you can do.
It's actually designed so it's a management system that the people just do what the instruction is.
And you're able to put up these farms very quickly, locally, so you can have a limited supply of food locally.
What we need is 20% of our food, in my opinion, 20% of our food grown within 30 miles of population centers.
Why?
If the supply chain breaks, we still have 20% and we'll get by.
It gives us money and time to fix the other.
I want you to keep your thoughts, but I just want to know, why isn't this already happening right now?
I don't I don't think enough people are aware of it.
Okay, so it's not like, is this a business model that you're trying to roll out or not?
Because you have ideas, but are you actually implementing this?
And I hope I'm not taking you off track here.
No, no.
So what happens is, the first thing was, this is a prototype, so you have to build the prototype to prove the model.
So Richard Allen Miller, or Doc Ram, as I call him, we were working out along with Matt Stein.
And how to create this model that can be reproduced very quickly anywhere in the country.
Basically like McDonald's, but not the food quality of McDonald's, but the ability to create the same product almost anywhere.
And not many people know that once approvals are received, McDonald's only takes like 45 days to build.
So you can put up production of food very quickly around any population center.
The problem came that the cost was, how would I say, not competitive with other investments like the stock market.
So I had to add, and the other value was what I call safe haven.
In other words, there are many, many people in New York that are now waking up, that they're in really deep trouble if the system breaks.
And so in the Bourne movies, where you have a safe location to get to, And yeah, okay, it's expensive.
There are over 100 billionaires in a 30-mile radius in New York, and over a million millionaires.
Well, if we want to rebuild our country, maybe they should consider investing, because otherwise, if our country goes down, they're not going to be billionaires anymore.
Right.
In fact, it will be really nasty.
Right.
So, so I moved, I put those two together, and I'm actually in conversations with, with investment.
But this is capitalism.
I mean, we're capitalists, so we have to make a profit.
So I designed it so that the prime investor does make a profit, and people get to a safe place, much less than if they tried it themselves.
Okay.
And that is, people can find that on your website.
Is that correct?
That's correct.
And by the way, I'm kind of a one-man show, so the website isn't this, you know, darling, high-tech, you know, look, it's just some pictures and this is what you get, right?
No, no worries.
I think people are not going to, you know, people looking for this kind of thing are not necessarily going to be worried about the bells and whistles, the flexibility of your website, but If, you know, under the circumstances, like I, you know, and I think that you said, correct me if I'm wrong, you actually do believe that Richard Allen Miller's prediction about late March, early April 2024, you think that's correct?
About some event that has to do with He said it's not extinction level, but it will involve earth movements, and I'm not sure if he thinks, because I asked him about the Juan de Fuca fault, for example, that I have another whistleblower who had been predicting that is going to go, and that that will trigger
I think it will trigger Yellowstone, and Yellowstone is linked on a chain of western volcanoes at any rate.
You do think that's going to happen, and why?
I mean, other than the hazier friend and his mathematics are probably right, because they're like 99.99% And he also recently called me up and said, oh, by the way, the government just called me and said, the core stopped.
And what do we do?
So are you on board with that as well?
So this is how I look at it.
Okay.
First, I don't want to necessarily believe that our whole system is going to collapse.
But I look at the probabilities as an engineer.
And so when I listen to Dr. Graham, I take his information as a template.
Then I look for somebody else, and I take their information as a template.
And then a third person, I take their information, and I lay it over.
And when I see similar things in one location, I say, hey, look, this probability is high.
For instance, I think you interviewed Paul Lavalette.
And he's saying a galactic wave.
Yeah, he calls it a super wave.
He predicted that, but this is quite a long time ago now, my interview with him, which was in person, and he has a website, and he continues to talk along these lines, and he's written several books, but I'm not sure where he's at with the super wave theory.
You know, we had some information, right?
And then you go to, as you've been following, Juan O'Salvin.
He said in an interview last week that there may be a magnetic pole flip, which again, is all of these things with the Earth.
And then if we go to another one called Suspicious Observers, I think you had mentioned him, he's very Very on it.
Now, I'm not saying any of these are going to happen.
I'm saying that, to me, the probabilities are going up.
And so, in the preparing world, there's this saying, you prepare for the worst, you hope for the best.
Okay.
So, first of all, hope is not a strategy.
Preparing is a strategy.
And so, you go, oh my, Could we actually have one of these very catastrophic things?
And I think that the probabilities are high.
And now we also, we are going into what's known as a grand solar minimum, when the sun basically goes on walkabout, that's every 400 years, it's a cycle.
And that these may trigger it.
Um, we know that the magnetic poles are meandering, um, and are coming close to meeting in the Indian Ocean.
Um, um, and, and there's just continuous things.
And then all of a sudden you start to say, let's look at what the, I don't like to use the word elites, but, um, how about the rich and shameless?
Um, what are they doing?
And you start to look, you go, well, You know, if you knew that we were going to have a catastrophe like that, would you bother solving any of the financial issues?
And the answer is, of course not.
You'd just keep the printing press running.
And then if you look, it's rumored that Bezos is building an underground city in Arizona.
Okay, and let me stop you there because I've also released the information that Alex Jones just released a few days ago, making a big deal about it, which is that a lot of billionaires have suddenly followed Zuckerberg over to Kauai and are buying land and building underground bases there.
Yes, and so we don't necessarily know what the event is, but from geology, we do know that we've had magnetic pole shifts throughout history, and that this could be very much a potential.
Now, I hate to say it this way, but if the people who control this globe knew that this was going to happen, then they, like a farmer, You would, if you knew you were going to go into a drought and a shortage of food, you would call the herd.
This is my opinion.
And keep your best breeding stock, right?
And this is what farmers do.
Well, oh my, doesn't it look like somebody's calling the herd?
And I said, okay, well, let's look at this.
So how do you prepare yourself if these things happen?
And in the worst case?
Seriously, there are other dominoes that could fall first, like if our financial system collapses, we lose the ability for the credit markets and our entire system runs on credit.
So how is a farmer or a rancher out in Nebraska going to send $200,000 worth of beef in a container to those trustworthy New York brokers without a guarantee?
It's not going to happen.
And this is what I dealt with in Eastern Europe.
There was no system that you could trust.
So it gets brutal on being able to do trade if you don't have the system to do it.
So that's just one, by the way.
If you turn off the electricity, which I'm sure Our enemies know about.
There's a wonderful book called, and I'll name some books.
There's a wonderful book by Ted Koppel called Lights Out that documents it.
Our grid can be taken down very easily.
My understanding is that President Reagan started to harden it.
And that, surprise, surprise, President George Bush Sr.
stopped the hardening.
Go figure.
Right.
And that our grid is not protected with what we call high-end surge protectors.
So at any time, the sun could fire off a what's known as a coronal mass ejection.
And that gets into some of the other predictions, whether they're accurate or not, whether people believe them or not.
Like, what is it?
Sergeant Ed Dames said that there's a there's a kill shot.
Now, Um, and I don't know if that's going to happen or not, but I do know that... Well, he has predicted that wrongly a number of times.
For a very long time.
Yes.
Okay.
But, you know, I mean, like they say, a clock is right once every day or whenever it's, you know what I'm saying?
I mean, in other words, it's a possibility that at some point he might be right.
But if we set that aside, we look at in a grand solar minimum, that's exactly what starts to happen.
And you start to see these piling up.
And we don't know if people are just guessing or not.
Are you familiar with Stan Deo?
Yes, I actually got an email from Stan a week ago.
I'll send off engineering questions to him.
All right.
He's a lovely man, as you probably know, and he and his wife have a website.
I don't know if it's still out there.
I think it is.
They have been talking and dealing with these issues and looking at weather patterns and Volcanism and, you know, actually, well, we have weather wars, which is a whole other side of that.
And there's also reason to believe that even the pole shift, or so-called pole shift, could be triggered by what we call the Secret Space Program Illuminati contingent, because that's what they want to see happen, as opposed to what would naturally happen.
And so there's triggers that they could possibly, you know, Move that along.
That part's true.
And so one of the things is, let's be specific, a magnetic pole shift versus a physical pole shift.
Those are two different things.
Stan is one of the best people to monitor.
And also his wife's book, Dare to Prepare, is one of the best manuals out there, along with Matt Stein's manual, When Technology Fails.
And I highly recommend people get that While I'm on books, there's another book called Survival Theory by Jonathan Holliman, who was basically what's known as the seer instructor, the guy who taught the military survival.
And you really want to pick that up, or actually audible, so you can listen to it, because we're far too busy to read, as we know.
And I see you're reading in the background.
You see what?
Your Rebel Gene book in the background.
Oh yeah.
Well, and Matt gave me, sadly, Matt Stein.
I had interviewed him.
He has passed on.
But, you know, his work is still out there and he gave me one of his books, so I have it.
Not that I would necessarily use it, but, you know, whatever.
What I wanted to say was that there is actually a movie that's quite, I think it's, well, it's a television series.
It's British and, you know, that's what they do.
They seed this stuff out there so they can say they warned you, right?
So this particular one is called, I think, The Last of Us or something.
And in the beginning, it starts with this kind of a zombie thing, right?
But what the whole thing I'm told is really about is prepping and living in a sustainable Type of situation not sure I haven't seen seen it so I don't I can't tell you how that pans out or whether they stick with the storyline or Go off there, but it's suspicious.
You know, it's one of those things that you could say is suspicious Why is such a movie our TV series coming out at this time?
And is this again predictive programming?
To prepare you for what they are planning so That is a possibility.
We'll never know until afterwards.
There's another series that the Americans make called Jericho.
I watched, I liked Jericho.
I thought it was very good.
And so we, and actually there was a reality show called, what's the name of it?
It'll come to me in a minute.
That they did in Los Angeles, imitating an EMP, where 10 people locked themselves in a warehouse for like six weeks.
And that's actually pretty good, because it was pretty accurate on some of the things.
Colony.
Yes, now there are two colony shows.
It's called Colony, but the one in 2009.
Okay, well colony, well it ended up to be an alien.
That's the second one.
That was the second one.
But the first colony in 2009 were these 10 people who got hit by the EMP and what happens?
And the actual best book probably is a book called One Second After by William Orshton.
Right.
And the foreword was written by Newt Gingrich, you know, and he's saying, this is real, this is a real threat.
You know, so I don't know how much, you know, verification we need to know that we're in serious trouble.
We have these threats sitting there.
And We don't see anybody doing anything about it.
As example, from this COVID issue, you know that the food chain could have collapsed, right?
But it didn't.
But do you see any politicians doing anything to strengthen our supply chain relative to food?
And the answer is no.
I'm sorry, I don't see President Trump doing anything.
I don't see 107 doing anything.
And of course, the only thing I see Biden doing is tripping down stairs.
Right.
Well, I will say that Juan, at least to his credit, has been warning people to prepare now for years, literally.
However, there seems to be some confusion because Not so long ago, I actually posted it on my telegram channel.
Trump actually came back and came on to the, you know, whatever, whether it was his channel or what, he said there is going to be a turndown of the economy, whatever, and it is going to be worse than the stock market crash of 1929.
He said worse.
Now, I haven't heard Juan echo that particular idea, but I'm not an expert on 1929, but didn't that lasted for a few years, correct?
Yes.
Grapes and wrath and the whole thing.
Yeah.
Well, it lasted about six, seven years before things started to get better.
But, but, you know, in, in this now, you, I believe, you know, Jim Willie, He actually just came out and said, you know, our entire supply chain is getting destroyed.
I do know that you also know Cliff High.
Now, Cliff's not always accurate, but he does have some very good things.
And he came out and he said this statement, he goes, our supply chain will collapse and it will not come back in our lifetime.
You know, now, now if you start adding up all of these things, and then you just look at the math, just look at the math and the engineering.
And yeah, our supply chain is positioned to collapse.
Okay, and that doesn't even include what can happen when we have any kind of nuclear power plant that then has a problem because, I guess, the electrical grid goes down or whatever.
In other words, that can compound the situation, right?
Absolutely.
It would be continuing dominoes falling.
Because, you know, let's say the credit market, if the petrodollar goes and that forces the banks to collapse and that forces the credit market to collapse, then where are they going to get the money to solve these problems?
And so you see these domino effects and that gets really painful.
Okay, go ahead.
Sorry.
So what do we, what do we, what do we, one, individually do about it?
And two, what do we do as, let's say, a small community?
And that's what we were focused on.
All right, well, there's another sign out there that I find troubling, which is what I'm noticing is they're allowing the degradation or the things to wear out, you know, the obsolescence, you know, the built-in obsolescence.
They're actually Increasing that and allowing it to happen in such a way that they're not renewing.
For example, streets of cities are full of potholes.
They're not fixing them.
It's a small thing, maybe.
In some places, they're kind of doing sort of a patch job, but they're not laying down new streets like they used to, right?
So, I think the way to put it is our infrastructure is falling apart, not being repaired.
Right.
And now if you look what happened to us on the East Coast in Philadelphia just, I think, two days ago, I-95 goes from Maine to Florida.
Yeah.
It's a major, it's a major interstate and a tanker truck turned over underneath an overpass and burnt down both the northbound and the southbound lanes.
So that, now I must, most people in the western part of the US don't know Lehigh.
Lehigh was, when I went there, the number one school in structural engineering in the country.
Okay.
It's kind of like the Eastern version of Cal Poly, if you want to know.
Except we wrestle a lot better.
I had to throw that in.
And so I got a degree from the number one school in the country.
It will take six months to a year to replace, to fix that road.
And that's just one accident.
Just one.
And so You start to see, Jim Willey did a statistical analysis on the amount of trains that, by coincidence, are derailing.
And it's off the charts.
But that's not, I mean, with all due respect, that's not a coincidence.
That's actually intentional.
I mean, we know this is sabotage.
We know this for a fact.
I mean, there's no way of avoiding that.
It would be what we'd know as a fifth column.
Okay.
And so to really wrap it up, we are at war.
It's clandestine at the moment.
Most Americans are asleep at the wheel.
Wake up, right, that we are at war.
And what do we do about it?
And there is going to be fallout as a result, regardless of whether it's some of these quasi-natural weather related or EMP related.
We have predictions that came to us at Project Camelot many years ago.
One particular whistleblower, Henry Deacon, who said that he was told that in the future They would cause an EMP that it was not if but when and that actually the U.S.
would create it and blame it on China, okay?
And that was what he was saying back all those years ago.
It's becoming more likely now and I can tell you Now, this is something that stuck in my mind, and I always remembered it, is that Janet Reno, who was head of Homeland Security, I think it was, when she left her position, she resigned, and she made a speech.
And in that speech, she said, we are going to have an EMP.
It's not if, but when.
I think that was Janet Napolitano.
Janet Reno was Um, uh, the Waco incident.
Napolitano, uh, then went to one of the, um, California, um, uh, universities.
But yeah, she said that, that it will be... Okay, I don't know.
Yeah, okay, I could go back and look, but I'm pretty sure it was Reno in her position, whatever the position was that she resigned from, because she gave a speech, and she gave the speech, I think, somewhere.
It wasn't in California, I don't think.
Anyway, the point being, What she said, the person said, was, and I took special note of it, because it was the kind of thing where you're supposed to be bowing out gracefully, so to speak, and saying you're retiring, but instead she makes this portentous statement about an EMP, and because we've been told about that by others, that caught my interest.
So That being the case, I think since then other people have been talking about this, right?
And it can be a weapon of war, obviously, right?
And you can also have like an EMP from the sun, you might call it actually the coronal mass ejection.
Killshot is what Ed Dames calls it.
That, there's evidence that, you know, for what it's worth that we have ET help with this, that we actually can, that those shots headed towards us are even in this time period being Moved off, redirected, okay, so that they don't come and hit it straight on, but all they have to do is not do that and obviously it will hit.
So, yeah, so these are all real things that are in the offing.
I do want to, okay, so you kind of answered my question about what you think is coming again, but you didn't quite answer the question that I said about, do you think, because I think you've been working on this for quite a number of years, and I just wonder, With sort of the changes we've had with AI, the advent of AI, and that moving into the situation, and even the so-called smart cities, that is clearly a diabolical move to control us further.
The 5G, you know what I'm saying, the rollout of this.
Do you factor that into your plan at all?
And have you found that you might have left out something?
In other words, you know, Um, you know, I was just interviewed by the Atlantic magazine, asking pretty much that question, I go, did you have you considered AI and in the prepping issue?
And my comment was that actually, not really, because I think we'll get to the other issues first.
In other words, AI has to get in line for the banking crash for the World War Three, or You know, for an EMP.
And, and so I do believe that is a very serious issue.
But I don't, but I also think that the other ones will hit first.
But the whole thing is, you still design for the worst case scenario.
So, so, you know, we're designing for, I guess if AI shuts down the grid, The same thing.
You know, how do you... Well, yeah, that's what I would say.
See, I would say that in some of these cases, AI may be responsible, actually, if you get a diabolical AI.
And in fact, that could even be the plan for, you know, the Illuminati to sequester that.
And it could be just the opposite.
It could be an EMP is the weapon against the AI, because if you wipe out the electric, what's AI going to use?
I don't know, but I planned or I designed a location that if we lose electricity for a very long time, what do you do?
And actually, again, the book Survival Theory by Jonathan Holloman actually discusses a lot of that.
He's on one of the commissions for the government on if the grid collapses.
Okay.
Let me ask you this because we've seen that actually electricity isn't necessarily the beneficial I mean, we rely on it, but it's not necessarily the best way of conducting life on Earth.
So, for example, the electric cars are completely ridiculous if you look at them in terms of efficiency and all that, and you probably know more than I do about that subject.
But if you look into the future and you look at If we're not using electricity, what are we using?
And is there, you know, because we do have people that are garage entrepreneurs or whatever, who have been creating various things using water, for example.
Even Bob Lazar created a car that ran on water and so on and so forth.
So, and I know that I've seen some so-called, I don't know what you call them, but they're like generators that run on water and various things and sunlight, you know, and so on.
Any thoughts on that?
Oh, yes.
You know, especially as an engineer, because this makes us, you know, you know, how would you say it makes us get excited and start thinking about it.
So first of all, yes, we know how to run an engine on water, we already know it.
But that's being kept from marketing by the system.
All right.
You know, it's like Henry Kissinger came out and said, control oil, you control nations, control food, you control the people.
What do we see?
There's a battle going over control of oil and a battle over control of food.
But for instance, the Germans actually had produced a high performance car that runs on water.
And I think it got knocked off the market.
And then we get into Tesla technology.
Well, there's so much evidence that Tesla technology exists.
As soon as you try to patent it, you know, you get the black suburban showing up and they say you're threatening the economy in the United States.
So these things will come out, but we're going to have a period of chaos when things break until we get to them.
So yes, I do believe that we will be able to.
And if you talk to an engineer, there are a lot of things we can do already, such as what's known as wood gas or syngas.
A synthetic gas that was invented a long time ago, and it was used extensively in Europe after World War II, where you basically use wood to run an engine.
And surprisingly enough, one of the best companies in the entire country is in Berkeley, California.
Right?
Okay, now there's also, I was watching, I'm trying to educate myself about how these people think about the economy and watching Bloomberg, and I saw that they are talking about fusion, okay, and fusion companies that are advocating fusion, etc.
And I, you know, I don't, what are your thoughts on fusion?
Is this a viable, something viable for people or not?
Well, for people, probably not.
But in fission, we already know that they've designed, how would you say, environmentally friendly nuclear fission.
I forgot the actual ingredient that they can box it up into a container size thing and it runs for 10 years and then they just recharge it.
So we have these alternatives already.
But they're not allowed in the market, and that is part of the... Actually, the word apocalypse... You know, Hollywood has programmed us very nicely on almost everything, so it scares us all the time.
But apocalypse means the unveiling, and that's what we're seeing.
We're seeing information unveiled.
And so we have these energy solutions, we're just not allowed to get to them yet as marketing.
Okay, what about this idea of mini-nukes that Juan is actually promoting?
Well, I agree with him.
If you actually, you know, again, you had interviewed, I guess, Mike Harris a long time ago, you know, and Gordon Duff, and they talk about what we actually call tactical nukes.
And if you looked at some of the stuff that went on in, like, Beirut, there was So, you know, it's like most people think that since Nagasaki and Hiroshima that we still have these big blasts, machines, bombs.
But no, we've actually, you know, these guys haven't been sleeping.
They've created things that they could take out a building.
They could take out a bunch of different things.
So we may have, I think Juan's probably correct, is they're They're trying to get Putin to take the first step.
And I heard someplace in somebody's broadcast that whoever starts the war loses the war.
And so, you know, I dealt with the Russians for 18 years.
You don't slap Russians.
It's a very bad idea.
And so they're slapping the Russians and they're being very patient and very holding back.
But whoever makes the first mistake, right, or the first move, loses, I think.
Okay, let me let me throw this out because underground bases, I believe, have been using things like mini nukes, because we heard about this a long time ago.
There was actually this woman in, I think it's New Mexico who started a company.
And she was supplying these small nuclear devices to run entire, you know, underground cities in essence.
And maybe that's where Juan is getting his idea.
Sorry?
It's actually thorium.
As crazy as it is, a clean nuclear fuel.
Meaning, I guess it doesn't, it's byproducts are not dangerous.
And that was it.
They make like a container size, a shipping container size, maybe a hash container size, nuclear power plant that they're powering the underground.
This is just what I heard.
I mean, they didn't, they didn't let me know.
Yeah.
I understand.
I understand.
Okay.
Perfect sense.
All right, now I'm not going to keep you much longer.
We've been going for a while and I want to keep this as short and sweet as possible because I think people do get overwhelmed by these ideas.
What are your thoughts?
What would you say to people as a wrap-up?
It are like, for example, you know, you can buy these sustain these little gardens that you can buy and put them in your house.
Do you think that's smart?
I know Richard Allen Miller often talks about, I think he calls it hydroponics.
Roger Palm, sure.
So there's a bunch of things you can do, but what I recommend is you get some of the books of these guys that figured it out, and they tell you everything to do.
For those that want to, I actually get interviewed once a week by a rancher out west named Trent Luce, because he figured out that, you know, and he was introduced to me by Robert David Steele, that That I have all of this information and experience from going through this for 18 years.
So, I put together a list of things called Important Beginning Preparations.
Okay?
It's just a list I do for friends instead of spending two hours with them each time.
So, if somebody emails me, I'll send them that and I'll send them a list of books of which, you know, maybe 10 books of which I recommend you getting.
And also, A couple of some information on security, right?
Because it's it's very if we lose the thin blue line, we're going to have real troubles.
And I think that that can happen.
So what can I give out my email address?
Yes, go ahead.
And please, you know, tell me if it's the same one I'm using for you because I could post it on my website.
Great.
Well, first, the website's www.ahfarms.org.
And then the email is ahfarmsinfo at gmail.com.
And just a little bit of plug, it's called American Heritage.
It's not incorporated.
American Heritage, because what we did was we created everything that was great of our heritage into a duplicatable form so it can go anywhere.
It's our heritage.
Okay so just I'm going to bring this page up so that people can see that it is on my website and it looks like this.
So I've got an image basically from your website showing sort of this idea that you've got and I gave it a title and put sustainable farms also there.
So this page has several links as well as more information.
That second picture right there, right?
Yes.
It was my responsibility to meet Bill and Hillary because I was the president of the American Chamber of Commerce.
So I met them in Riga in 1994.
And my mother wouldn't let me in the house for three years.
Really?
No, I'm joking.
Okay.
All right, so I think we're good with that.
Let me see.
I think I might have lost my place here on this Zoom crazy thing.
Oh, God.
All right, well, I guess this is all right.
When I close it down, it'll show up again.
Oh, there it is, I guess.
This happens, you know, it's sort of a funny thing going on.
But, all right, so just want to say that I've got these links and I highly recommend that you people go there.
I have got, just on the screen here, I've got your public intelligence blog that was basically put together by Robert David Steele, but this page has all your articles so that people want to educate themselves further can certainly go there as well.
And that link is on that page that I was just showing you.
So here if I stop, there we'll go.
So anyway, thank you very much, Jason, for coming on the show.
I think it's all, you know, I think you've really Actually, Sean David Morton has been to the farm.
He stayed when coming to New York.
And my shout out to Sean.
I love listening to him.
Yeah.
And I love watching the two of you together.
I think you've been married in past lives or something like that.
Yeah, we're like brother and sister.
We fight like cats and dogs, for sure.
Right, right.
Yeah, and he's a wonderful guy.
In fact, I'm probably going to have him on my show pretty soon again.
He's working like a dog to get his books out.
So he's really working hard.
So I highly recommend buying Doc Ram's books and Sean David Morton's books.
And I do!
Good point, yes.
And I read Sean's books as well, and Dr. Richard Allen Miller.
We're in uncharted territory.
We have to look at what to do.
I agree.
And thank you again for all the work you've done over the many years that you've been involved in this and, in essence, warning people and creating this idea of safe havens where people can work together.
Take a look at that, everyone.
I think you've got sort of a template there.
And isn't it true?
I don't know what legally you're supposed to say or do, but I think you do need investors.
Isn't that right?
Anything this big.
Needs needs investors.
Specifically for me, we're looking for New York to get this rolling because if we don't create food security in our country, we're not going to have a country for very long.
Okay, so word out there, please do take note and go to my website for his email address as well.
If you didn't know it the first time, it will be on this, we'll write it on the screen of this video that goes out, and it'll go on Rumble, it will go on Odyssey, and it will probably stay on Facebook, you know, and it'll be free, so you can access it.
So if you lost, you know, if there was something you wanted to hear again, you can do it.
All right, please keep me up to date on anything you're actively involved in.
And then, you know, if I hear anything more, I'll also try to connect you with others in the future as well.
Excellent.
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