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June 14, 2023 - Project Camelot

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JOSH REID : UFOS, UAPS, SECRET PROGRAMS AND WHISTLEBLOWERS

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	Thank you.
	And we are live.
	So, hi everyone.
	I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
	I've got Josh Reed with me and he is a broadcaster over on American Media Periscope and you also have your own channel, right?
	Isn't that right?
	Red Pill Project at redpills.tv, Carrie.
	Okay, and hopefully we're... How's the volume?
	I hope the volume's okay.
	I'm just turning a little louder on my end.
	Josh, what I'd like you to do is give a short background.
	You've been on my show before.
	I've been on your show.
	We've kind of traded off and this is a fascinating subject we're going to launch into.
	Looks like you've got some good contacts in the background.
	So let's do that.
	But let's first give you a short background.
	People wonder who you are and do you have a military background?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I spent just under 10 years in the United States Navy.
	I worked on missile weapon defense systems, as well as the computer and communication and sensory systems that integrate into them.
	Deployed three times, two times to the South Pacific doing narco-terrorism and human trafficking interdiction, and then once to the West Pacific and the Xolo Islands out in the Philippines area, as well as Singapore, China, that whole area in the West Pacific.
	Got out of the military, went into high tech, worked for a large airline for a few years, then went into cybersecurity, consulting, and then moved into broadcasting once some information started coming out.
	And it was kind of conducive with my 30 years plus of research into these various different topics.
	For people out there who don't know, I've been studying kind of like the occult and esoteric mysteries for well over three decades, since I was a young teenager and first started kind of delving into these topics.
	And UFOs have always been one of those things that are very close and near to my heart.
	I've had multiple experiences when I was a kid, had quite a few experiences in the military.
	And, you know, once some things started transpiring around 2014, 2015, 2016, I decided to jump back into the investigative and research role of things.
	And since then, we've uncovered massive amounts of information.
	One of the things, Kerry, that's great about this is I've made a lot of good contacts over the years.
	And I do a show called The Daily Dose Podcast on Redfield Project.
	And we've been incredibly accurate for the last few years, since about October-November 2020.
	Not saying we weren't accurate before that, but we were.
	But the things that we said were going to occur have been occurring, which is pretty crazy, to say the least, because what happens next is going to be pretty miraculous, I think.
	Okay, well I'm definitely interested in your take on everything and it'll be fun to hear what evidence you're getting and my audience knows my background in this matter, or these matters, and so we can have some fun here.
	So why don't you launch into, I don't know if you're going to talk about the Grush specifics or you're going to talk about the other whistleblower who I can't remember if he has a name yet, but go ahead.
	Yeah, so kind of give everybody a brief overview of this.
	I've had a network of kind of contact sources.
	I don't disclose their information names.
	That's how you build these levels of trust.
	They've given me information over the years, and the only way that you have validation of this information is when it actually comes to fruition.
	Right, so you integrate it into the knowledge base and then all of a sudden, boom, it's coming out.
	And then this comes out, and this comes out.
	More recently, we were in a few discussions with someone else who has kind of the same group and we started exchanging information.
	And their sources were confirming the information that I've had for over the last few years.
	So this blew up a lot of investigation.
	Anyways, We made a series of predictions.
	I went on Clayton Morris's redacted show, a pretty big show on Fox News the other day, or on YouTube the other day.
	And I said some things about the David Grouch event, about a few other whistleblowers, so what we do know is that there are more than one whistleblower.
	David Grouch has been out, he filed his complaint two years ago, he's testified in front of Congress and Senate, he was retaliated against, and him coming forth right now had a lot to do with pushback and retaliation that he's getting.
	Apparently his house was broken into, all these different things.
	There are other whistleblowers.
	So if you, if we, everybody listened to David Grush, he says that he had contacts that were contacting him, that these are legit, real people in these real positions.
	That we're telling them about these various different projects.
	Now, he only mentioned one project specifically, and this is the Extraterrestrial Vehicle Recovery Project, or this type of craft recovery project.
	But there are other projects that go along with this, and I'll give an overview of some of these.
	Tonight.
	But with these, he said that these people come forth.
	So what we found out from our various different contacts is that there's been multiple amounts of people who have testified in the last year who have presented massive amounts of evidence to Congress and Senate, specifically Andre Carson, the head of the Intel Committee, ...in Congress, was one of the congressmen who was there to witness this.
	There was three whistleblowers all on various different projects that Congress didn't take them serious.
	They opened up a large suitcase, presented evidence, including DVDs, photos, and videos.
	On the DVDs were video evidence of U.S.
	intelligence communicating and talking with extraterrestrials, or what are perceived to be extraterrestrials.
	So this is getting very, very real.
	These people who did come forth, we don't know who they are publicly right now.
	Apparently they've given a lot of this information in an insurance policy to certain people.
	Two people high up in the UFO, ufology type of realm.
	I don't want to speculate on who the names are.
	I wasn't given that information, but I know that there is an insurance policy to where if these people go missing, that information does come out.
	And these are real, legit people.
	They are people who are in these projects.
	They've testified, they have filed whistleblower complaints that are classified.
	These classified reports we will not see the public daylight of.
	Only way we're ever going to see this is if they actually come forth.
	David Grush is the first one that did come forth, and this is where it gets really interesting, because he actually lays out a little bit about this.
	And so what we're hearing is two different things, Project Titan and Project Prometheus.
	And so these are two black projects that are operating.
	Project Titan is Alien recreation vehicles.
	This is the recreating of alien technology into our own vehicle use.
	And then Project Prometheus is the science base of this.
	It's the accumulation of all the information pertaining to the science that they're discovering as they go along within these black projects.
	Now, You know, this is crazy because a lot, like, typically when you're dealing with this kind of information, you hear things every few months, maybe once a year, you get a little tidbit here and there.
	Recently, it's been just fast moving.
	There's a lot of things happening behind the scenes, and David Grouch has basically Motivated a lot of things in this that we could potentially be seeing in the next few weeks to months way more bombshells even bigger than a US government black craft retrieval project that is going on.
	Okay, now, just let me say, because I want to set the scene here, that the ARV, which is Alien Reproduction Vehicle, that program was outed many years ago.
	And one of the people was Mike McCandlish, who made the drawings.
	Gordon Neville, who passed on.
	Okay, so both Mark McCandlish and Gordon Neville, in my view, were killed.
	Gordon lasted quite a long time.
	He was under...
	The guy who was head of CIA rear desk, as it's called, Ron Pandolfi, they sort of baited him along for a long time.
	He was trying to do deals with them and trying to get this vehicle built and out there and so on.
	Now, we already had Plenty of data and plenty of whistleblower testimony that that that vehicle had already been built.
	Even Gordon knew that, but Gordon wanted to make a public version.
	Okay, so this kind of interesting back story to what you're saying.
	And then, of course, the people like Grush Grush and this other individual who I have to pull up his information to get it in front of me, but who has come forward about these programs is talking also about our.
	What we we call reverse engineered craft that he was party to seeing a gigantic one I guess for football size was what he said and that was a release on the Daily Mail and you you saw that as well and so we can you know there's in other words things are
	Packing up here, one thing substantiating another, substantiating another, and for me, after 18 years of delving into this with whistleblower testimony, and I mean people who worked in these black projects, in what is called unacknowledged special access programs, and there's a lot back there, okay?
	So I know this is the new stuff, but keep in mind, everyone watching, that there's a ton of this Backstory that not just me, but other credible, reliable UFO researchers, as we're called, or ufology people that we have been bringing this all out.
	Why Grush?
	Actually says in his testimony or at least the reporter that interviewed him that he's the first person to ever go public is a little bit strange.
	Um, you know, so there's going to be spin here and there is a questionable you're saying there's, you know, 3 right?
	Did you just say that?
	So yeah, we know of three that have testified besides Grush, and this is potentially one of them is the Air Force pilot who is now retired that went to Brazil, Varhinga, Brazil, and recovered the dead alien bodies and the craft in Varhinga in that incident that James Fox did a documentary on called Moment of Contact.
	Okay, and that goes back to this doctor who has also passed on, who actually, Varginha in Brazil, he was actually the key investigator on that.
	So I know James Fox made a documentary, but the actual doctor who's passed on, whose name is like on the tip of my tongue, but I can't remember it right now, He, you know, he's very famous, and he hung out in UFO circles forever, and he went down there in person, and his... Dr. Mac?
	I have... what?
	Was it Dr. Mac?
	No.
	Or was it Stanton Friedman?
	Neither.
	Okay.
	Yeah, they aren't doctors.
	I mean, Stanton Friedman is a rocket scientist kind of type person, but he's passed on too.
	A lot of, you know, it's interesting.
	This is kind of like the new wave, all right?
	So go ahead and share what you've got.
	Yeah, so a few things that we got that actually happened inside this closed-door session is that the word supernatural was used to describe a lot of this technology, which I find quite interesting.
	When the videos were showed, and the only video, we know there's multiple videos showed, but the one that we heard about was the intelligent agent actually interviewing an extraterrestrial, what is believed to be an extraterrestrial.
	Uh, the...
	The atmosphere of the room was described as filled with panic and fear.
	One congressman was, like, noticeably sweating, drinking profusely.
	Another one was shaking with papers in his hand.
	He had to set it down, continue to shake.
	They were stricken with fear.
	This is something that we've heard multiple times before when they start seeing this type of information.
	What we got is, uh, I got the wrong notes in front of me.
	I got a few different notes here.
	Okay, I just remembered the name of that doctor in Varginia, Dr. Roger Lear.
	So, you can do a huge investigation on who that is and his role.
	I met him in person several times, used to hang out at various conferences and he spoke many times and he really was the key person on the Varginia Project.
	I just want to make sure that credit goes where credit is.
	Absolutely, you know, Roger Lear was a legend too in the UFO community.
	And Groosh, by the way, David Groosh, when he came forward, he is secondary.
	So he was working for the NGIA's projects, researching the task force, researching the UAPTF.
	And people were coming to him, but they didn't want to come forward.
	So they were giving him information, and this is what he brought forward.
	And they also, a few of them also testified.
	So we have to remember that he has secondary information that he was basically given Even though he has special access program information, that these people we're talking about, these people haven't come forth yet and we're waiting for that.
	Now, a point of legitimacy for David, by the way.
	Is I know a lot of people out there are PSYOP questioning David and all this stuff.
	This man has the right credentials.
	He has the right background.
	He was in the right places.
	He was actually a member of all of these specific projects he would have.
	He oversaw, I believe, all the U.S.
	Air Force's special access programs or all the NRO special access programs for a short period of time.
	This guy has that clearance.
	He has the knowledge.
	He would have been read into a lot of these projects.
	And the interesting thing that I find, Kerry, is he was represented by this law firm and he was appointed this lawyer who just happens to be Charles McCullough, the former Inspector General of the Intelligence.
	Now, when I saw that name, I started kind of Getting on my computer and talking to some people, I said, hey, here's this name again.
	People might not remember Inspector General Charles McCullough.
	He was a former Inspector General of the Intelligence Committee.
	But back in 2015, he testified on the review of Hillary Clinton's emails, the ones that are classified that nobody saw, the ones that were acid washed, the ones that were on Weiner's laptop, and what was in these emails specifically.
	And if you remember this, he was talking to the House Oversight Committee.
	It was Chaffetz.
	And Chaffetz said, well, what was in these emails?
	He goes, I can't tell you that.
	He goes, what do you mean?
	He goes, well, they're ORCON and SAP programs, Special Access Program Origin Control.
	And so these are SAP programs.
	And he goes, well, can you go to a closed door meeting?
	He goes, no.
	I had to get permission to get right into these.
	They didn't even want to get me, and I'm the Inspector General of the Intelligence.
	Okay, now what I did through my research is I put this together.
	I had a contact when I was part of a few organizations at still active duty back in 2009-2010 in Washington, D.C., who kind of led me in the trail of where this information all goes.
	And he was a high-ranking military official during the Kennedy, Carter, and then worked as a civilian under Reagan.
	This guy was absolutely in the know, and he was telling me about how The biggest fear right now is that there's people within what they know of as a deep state that is selling U.S.
	military secrets.
	Not only the military secrets, nuclear weaponry, but also the special access programs, this high-level advanced technology that will reverse engineering.
	And so when I started investigating this, this is one of the primary things that I looked into.
	Well, I uncovered basically how this all operated and what happened.
	2007, 2006, 2008, there's a few nuclear incidences out of Minot, North Dakota.
	They get covered up and basically seem to be not as serious as they actually are.
	Well, Kerry, one of those incidences was a live nuclear warhead loaded onto a B-2 bomber and flown halfway across the country.
	That doesn't happen by accident.
	There's no way humanly possible for that to happen because of all the checks and balances that literally go in to that.
	And so that was a cover-up.
	There's something else going on there.
	And what we think is they were covering up these incidences of other types of technology being stolen and being interdicted with nuclear incidences.
	Well, we see the Obama administration come in, they immediately open up educational exchange programs with China, and this is where it gets really interesting.
	So, in 2016, Donald Trump comes in and he shuts down all these educational exchange programs that Obama opened up.
	He goes out there and arrests a whole series of college professors and binds the universities.
	Well, the one interesting thing about every single one of these college professors, and I remember Dr. Charles Lieber, is they had NSF, National Science Foundation, DARPA, DOD, DOE, or NASA grants.
	They were working on special access programs for those organizations.
	So what was in Hillary Clinton's emails?
	The contents in Hillary Clinton's emails under the SAP programs that were being sent to an offshore email address, a gmail address, We're the universities and the colleges that were receiving the grants, the special access programs to reverse engineer alien technology.
	This is what Hillary was sending to China.
	China would come in, fund those universities' professors, bring them over to China, get the information out of the United States and begin their own reverse engineering programs.
	Trump shut this down in 2016, and now we're hearing that it's back in full scale.
	This is one of the other reasons why we're seeing this push to get this technology out, because They want to control it.
	One of the main reasons for all of this, the reason this has been kept from mankind as a big secret, is because what they do carry is they learn the science, they reverse engineer it, and they develop technology.
	Just imagine if you were this corporate conglomerate that controlled all the businesses in the world, and you had foreknowledge at every point of breaking technology that's going to come out for the next hundred years.
	This means that your investment capital gets to multiply thousands times over and over and over over a hundred year period because you're controlling the flow and dissemination of new technology and progress of the human race.
	This is the god-level control that these people have over the world and have wanted over the world.
	And they want to keep these projects dark and black because we're talking about free energy.
	We're talking about anti-gravitics.
	We're talking about space travel.
	We're talking about treaties and communication with extraterrestrial species and planets and no longer being confined to this planet.
	OK, so again, a little context.
	So, yes, all that is is really true.
	And, you know, Trump knew about that.
	I also want to put a footnote here because some of the documents that they're trying to get back from Trump.
	May include some of this information.
	And this is the kind of thing that Trump would sequester, knowing full well, when he put in like the whole devolution, you know, the government behind the government, so to speak, to keep it safe, in essence, from the people who took over and stole the election and got into office, okay?
	Who are backed by the CCP.
	We have good evidence that that whole steal Goes back to the CCP, okay?
	So, you see how this comes around and goes around, and it's all in one.
	And so, this is the name of the game right now.
	There's other things behind the scenes.
	Let me just say that this kind of game of college professors leaking information to countries, this has also gone on with Israel and the U.S.
	Israel got hold of their nuclear secrets and how to build a bomb, you know, whatever.
	Supposedly from us, through this type of channel, okay, through embedded individuals who are in both our government and in colleges and universities have been a big funnel for this kind of information.
	And by the way, so was the COVID game.
	Okay, so there are certain individuals who were very involved in getting the sort of I don't know.
	Lockups and deals made behind the scene to bring out the whole COVID thing on the planet.
	Going into China all right and um I think you said the guy's name I mean there's one very very famous one who's okay not on my time so okay so there's also Russia it's so so China is not the only one who's tried to play this game but it is significant that Hillary
	Bill, you know that these individuals were actually preparing China to be our enemy and there is reason for that that goes beyond like the obvious because In order to have a deep state, in order to have wars that you want, proxy wars, etc., to run the planet the way they want to run it, they have to have enemies.
	So they actually do what they did in Afghanistan.
	They gift Our technology sometimes it's a step down sometimes there there's back doors like with promise software which you may be familiar with that story which is the basis of actually our AI at this time financial AI and so on so so I don't want to go off the The rail's too much here, but I want people to understand that this is not a one-shot deal.
	This is not over, you know, this is just not now.
	This has been going on with our country and with traders, literally traders, to our country.
	And the Nazi scientists that came over, this is my last comment, with Project Paperclip, In a sense, did the same thing in reverse, okay?
	They didn't really lose the war, but they brought us the technology that they had, and we got it out of them by making deals, okay?
	Right, and I'll comment on a few things that you said.
	You've talked about Mar-a-Lago.
	Now, I have what I call my Mar-a-Lago contact, who's been very active, and What we were told specifically was that the documents that the FBI was looking for are what Trump would consider his insurance policy or what's known as the Trump card.
	Okay?
	And this information has JFK assassination information in it?
	It has Hillary Clinton email information in it.
	It has obviously crossfire hurricane information in it.
	It has corruption of Barack Obama and UFO information.
	And we tend to think of Roswell.
	I don't know necessarily if that's what it is or not, but we know that he has UFO information.
	And so the FBI, when they raided, what we're hearing is they recovered Nothing.
	Like, they went in there looking for these classified documents and all they found was empty folders as a joke because Trump's, you know, these guys all knew that they were coming and what we call the Trump card or the Trump binder was missing.
	And this is why he is still alive.
	I always talk to you about the symbolism.
	The first indictment that came about a few months ago, about a month ago, The indictment came out on the 42nd anniversary of the assassination of Ronald Reagan.
	The arraignment day was the 55th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.
	So, that was the first indictment and arraignment.
	Okay, that's symbolism.
	That's the Deep State saying, if you keep on pushing forth, we're gonna JFK you.
	We're gonna take you out.
	You know, this indictment came out the last week, but what is today?
	Well, tomorrow's Flag Day.
	Tomorrow's Trump's birthday.
	They did this right before his birthday.
	Okay, this is another symbolic threat.
	But here's the thing.
	Back in October 2020 on my podcast, we talked about this and said, if you know, if anybody knows the Q post that talks about the first indictment unsealed, The first arrest will set the path forward, will lead the way.
	Okay?
	We said, this will be Donald Trump.
	We have it on recording.
	2020, October 2020.
	This will be Donald Trump.
	And I said, when that happens, what you're going to see is the path forward is drip, drip, fluck.
	This means that the deep state, they're desperate, their backs are against the wall, their system is failing, and they are doing everything in their power to stop Donald Trump.
	And they can't.
	And so what happens then is they begin to attack him politically, using the DOJ to try to lock him up or take him out.
	And this is as he begins to unveil the information.
	Yesterday, Donald Trump gave an interview.
	I forgot the channel that it was on.
	But he said that they opened Pandora's box.
	Now it is time.
	We have the goods on them.
	It's all coming out.
	Now, this is interesting because there are a few different Q-posts out there, and two of them actually mention what?
	Pandora's Box.
	Interestingly enough, you have Pandora's Political Elite Box.
	One of them has to do with an October 22nd, 2020 article from Fox News.
	Q4935 mentions Pandora's Political Elite Box, referencing a Fox News article about Joe Biden and Hunter Biden's corruption, and how a specific email discusses key domestic contacts for phase one target projects, specifically referring to using these politicians who could potentially be on the payroll to use their power and get various deals from non-defunct CEFC China Energy.
	These people, Dianne Feinstein, Christine Gillibrand, de Blasio, Cuomo, you have Chuck Schumer, you have Kamala Harris that are named in this.
	And this was a big deal back then.
	The other article deals with Hunter Biden's Kazakhstan contacts and how this connects directly to Alexandra Forbes Carey, who is the daughter to John Carey.
	And so this is some big information.
	And so Trump's given that sign.
	Pandora's box goes to a Q-post.
	Not only that, as General Mike Flynn came out yesterday, whatever people think about him, he said the storm is here.
	The storm is here.
	And we are in the midst of the storm.
	And what we can see is that Donald Trump is no longer going to keep on taking these slings and arrows.
	He's about to punch back.
	He's about to basically take this to an offensive against them.
	I've said it for the longest time that you have to wait to a point of vulnerability to where their plan is so open and out there that people everywhere begin to see it, that we get to this precipice moment where people are just done.
	And they become to a point of vulnerability to where all you have to do is begin to tip them over and their whole plan collapses.
	Well, we're coming up to that point right now.
	This is why they're going so hard at Donald Trump, making up charges, lying on indictments, changing the semantics.
	Of the words that he said to his lawyer, entrapping his lawyer against federal law.
	I mean, all these things is just atrocious to see.
	And it's either they're weaponizing the DOJ, hoping that they get away with it.
	They're not going to get away with it.
	There's no way possible.
	Or they're just really that desperate.
	Guess what?
	I think that they're that desperate.
	I think that we just saw this interview I don't know if you saw this, but it was Carlin Ogorski, who is a Romanian politician.
	He's the former head of the Club of Rome of Europe.
	Okay.
	He came out in an interview, I think it was about a year, year and a half ago, and he described this global oligarchy who controls the world from finance to big corporations to having all of these governments under their control.
	He says that we were shocked when Donald Trump won.
	We didn't know how it happened because we had picked Hillary Clinton.
	He said, but this derailed all of our plans.
	And he talked about, in 2018, there was supposed to be war and famine.
	That couldn't happen.
	We know this as the 16-year plan with Barack and Hillary, about how that would move into World War III with Russia.
	That would bring about mass famine, water scarcity, and then pandemic after that.
	From the pandemic, then they move to a global society as the solution for all of this.
	And so, Alan, go ahead.
	Well, yeah, I mean, and I'm aware of this.
	He's not the only whistleblower out there talking now.
	Actually, there's another guy.
	I think his last name is Jacob.
	Dr. Jacob.
	I don't know if you saw that really quick clip.
	I might have even sent it to you.
	I'm not sure.
	But he's talking about there are some amount of children that are disappearing.
	That is an astronomical number.
	More than a year.
	Yeah, then people realize, okay?
	So, and he's just very nonchalantly saying, you know, and he's part of the Club of Rome and, you know, so on.
	So, what his deal is as far as how he made a deal with the Illuminati to come forward the way he is, I don't know, but it was a brief comment.
	I don't think know about the whole interview or whether that's out there.
	Well, he actually says in the interview that they're done.
	Like, basically, their whole foundation is unraveled.
	That since Trump came in, it's been almost annihilated.
	Alright, now I appreciate that, but I have to tell you that, look, this is just my job, and I don't trust these people.
	Oh, I don't either.
	As far as I can throw them.
	So the way I see it, and I have actually, you know, I'm something of a precog, I see things that do come true so-and-so.
	So one of the things I saw, and one of the things I was given, like a piece of information, was that when this whole thing came out, especially about the pedophiles and so on that are going to be exposed, that the deepest level of this would not be revealed, and that they would just go into hiding.
	And besides that, What they are going to do, and this may get into this so-called event that may be happening.
	Richard Allen Miller thinks it's end of March, beginning of April 2024.
	Some other scientists, it just came out, that they're looking at 2025.
	But whatever it is, and who knows, right?
	But there's reason to believe that they're actually going to recede and let it appear as though Trump and Teen have won.
	That's not going to be how that, you know, that's how they're going to save themselves.
	And they will, they'll go into hiding, off planet, interdimensional because they're working with reptilians and so on, and into the tunnels and so on, which go extremely, we're talking miles and miles down.
	So this is a, it's a very complex game.
	It's not over.
	It won't be over.
	People will think they've won, but they won't.
	They won't have and and so I'm just a cautionary note.
	Oh, no, no, I'm ready to start getting carried away.
	Bishop Richardson, who's a British member of the Vatican.
	He's part of the Vagano Church, right?
	So he's against the deep church.
	He's been very, very outspoken against the deep church.
	In 2022, he gave a sermon, a speech, where he talked about all of this and what's going to happen and how it's going to unravel.
	He said by 2024 what will appear to be the deep state, the deep church, the deep financial systems will all seem to have been defeated and we will rise up in victory and begin a golden age.
	He goes a few years after this is when the emergence of what he considers to be the Antichrist will Come about and this is when all hell will actually begin to break loose.
	And so I think you're spot on with what you're saying and I agree with you is that I look at this from a military strategy point.
	Yes.
	Is that we have structurally injured them very, very bad because they no longer control the realm of information.
	They no longer control news and media.
	They no longer control the realm of information.
	And that is the key component that they needed to have to implement a global oligarchy, a new world order.
	And the best thing for them to do is recede, regress, say, hey, look, you guys won.
	Give some arrests out there, fall back, let Donald Trump come in, have his four years, and then after they've re-established this control of the alternative media, of all the news and information, then they go back in and just hammer it in as fast as possible down the road.
	And I think that that's a good assessment.
	Yes.
	Okay, so good.
	I'm glad you're, you know, on the same page with me on that.
	All right, so let's drill down a little into this actual information coming forward, and I do want to say that the fact of the matter is, is that truth is what our era This this scenario is all about.
	So that is why we're winning.
	It's all about truth and why truth is coming out in a certain way from certain factions.
	And when people withhold the truth, they're simply In essence, slowing down the process.
	And I've just written this article, I think it's sent to you, and so that's what that article is all about, is the fact, not only including the people in understanding the truth, but these layers that we're talking about are so important.
	So, go ahead with your information.
	There was some information that was talked about by David Roush that mentioned interdimensional.
	And, you know, a lot of people, we took this as interdimensional travel.
	And from what we're getting is this is what Project Prometheus was potentially about.
	It was uncovering the physics.
	Now, if everybody watched Dr. Stephen Greer's stuff, he had a whistleblower on there that has filed actual whistleblower complaints about his time at the National Science Foundation.
	Going down to Antarctica, talking about the neutrino detector that they have down there is actually not a neutrino detector, but it is a directed energy weapon, as well as basically an air traffic control platform that detects when these craft come into existence.
	And so this is one of the things that I've learned over the years of how these things work.
	And this is pretty fascinating.
	And I'd like to hear what you think about it, because I know that you interviewed tons of people about this.
	But basically, these things, when they come in and out, when they're moving, they give off neutrinos.
	And the reason this is, is that what we understand to be gravity as a warping in time and space is actually not such.
	What's actually happening is you have an oscillation that is occurring within, I guess you can call it the Higgs field, I call it the primer field, is you have an oscillation, massive frequency that is being bombarded at a specific rate.
	within this field that basically produces ripples in this field begin to encase and that on our explicit universe there's an implicit universe there's an inverse and so there's an inner dimension of how all of our universe is constructed and it they believe that it exists at the Planck's length that what happens is is when you oscillate this basically it creates a wormhole
	Moving through this Planck's time and space and that you can go in there and you can time the travel through that to give a specific distance of travel in space, time and direction.
	And so the way this operates, Is these, when you perforate the primer field, when you produce distortions within this primer field, the first thing that is given off is neutrinos.
	And this is what they're detecting, in that it is, I guess, what we want to call gravity, but it's not necessarily how we perceive gravity in special relativity and with an Einsteinian physics.
	Okay, well that's all good.
	From Captain Mark Richards talks about there are spots that actually that science knows about, mainstream science even, where in space where you can actually go through and you know in a sense they become wormholes.
	But there's actually there's a name for them, which I don't have in front of me, but He told me about them and they're in my Mark Richards interview.
	So he has disclosed a lot of this stuff.
	But the bottom line is, you know, people always said, oh, no, we couldn't have gone out into space because we've got the, whatchamacallit, field, etc.
	The fact of the matter is, is that they don't go through the field.
	They actually bypass it because they go, in essence, interdimensional.
	They jump.
	But they have to use these particular spots around the planet to do it.
	I wasn't prepared for this kind of a discussion right now.
	I don't have that in front of me.
	I'm not a scientist, but I was told quite a bit about it by Captain Mark Richards.
	It's also in my material with him.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	The bottom line is that there is a sort of bending of space-time that happens.
	I mean, whether you call it a vortex or creation of a wormhole.
	Again, using also these spots that make it easier to go in and out and to travel out into space.
	So that's, you know, that's the way it goes.
	But I think we need to get back, backtrack a little bit because some of this is more nuts and bolts on the ground here on earth type of information.
	And it is important that the people that were involved with interviewing, this was Grush in particular, were not willing to talk about bodies.
	And I think that's fascinating.
	And this is only the beginning.
	Okay.
	It's great that he is also disclosing pieces of information that have been out there in the sort of community and known from whistleblowers.
	And by the way, Tuesday Stars Academy We're talking about Hal Puthoff and the rest of them.
	They have been instrumental in sort of outing some of this, investigating some of it, and this particular focus is on portal technology in particular, which has to do with, again, going into dimensional, traveling in space, and so on.
	Right.
	And, you know, Hal Puthoff has been involved in these types of projects since the late 1970s.
	And his partner there.
	And, you know, they have been trying to develop what they consider to be an electromagnetic craft.
	I would disagree with them on the physics and dynamics of that, but hey.
	Going back to Grouch and what they were saying about alien bodies, is that he did say that there was recovery of craft, partial craft, and alien bodies.
	Now, there was nothing mentioned about alive aliens, but we do know that one of the people present in the testimony did see the evidence of this specific communication with a live intelligent alien, and that
	Potentially there is programs, and we know there is, but from what we're hearing from our sources is there's potentially treaties, agreements made between us and these ETs in exchange for technology or giving them something in exchange.
	And a lot of what I'm hearing in the rumblings, by the way, Is that these people aren't coming forth because of the technology.
	They're not coming forth because there's aliens out there or anything like this.
	That's not what they're scared about.
	What they're scared about is the advancement that we've gotten as humanity in the reverse engineering of this technology and how that's going to be utilized in warfare or against other humans.
	OK, well, yeah, I mean, that's part of the reason why there is something of a lockdown on those kinds of testimony.
	But I have to say that that cat is out of the bag and has been for quite some time.
	So this information, in other words, what governments know, so there's kind of, you have to draw your line, right?
	So what governments know, what the Illuminati know, what the Club of Rome knows, and so on and so forth.
	These are levels and understanding that these levels are actually paramount right now because
	And maybe you can even talk to this, but because as the White Hats discovered what I call the Adrenochrome Highway, the whole thing with what they call Loosh and taking glandular stuff from tortured victims, and most of those are children and teenagers, and using it to stay younger, et cetera, this all gets into Kundalini activation and so on and so forth, because we have a natural source of it.
	And this is a very big source of what is feeding certain negative entities, having to do with the Draco, the Reptilians, and the Greys in particular.
	But there are probably some other, maybe even insectoids, probably feed on this stuff.
	And there's evidence of this, okay?
	There's lots of evidence of this.
	So behind this technology scramble, right?
	Is this other thing, which is that one of the main sort of prey of some of these negatively based aliens or inter, you know, interdimensional even.
	entities that come and go from our dimension, is the focus on using us as prey, as there's a slave trade.
	So this whole thing on Earth goes out into the stars and the war of worlds that has been conducted, of which humanity is just a part, okay?
	But our waking up And rescuing ourselves, not just from the Illuminati, but from the controllers of the Illuminati that have this program in mind to take over our planet, to turn us into cyborg organisms, as well as, in essence, eventually synths or androids, okay?
	They will keep some of us for food and fodder, that kind of thing.
	So there's that side of it as well.
	This is not an idle exercise.
	I know there's a big focus and excitement over the technology, but in a certain sense our Secret Space Program has been using this technology, developing it, reverse engineering this, really going back to the 1930s and even arguably maybe even before that.
	Do you want to speak, kind of bounce off of what I've just said?
	Well, yeah, I mean, you just said a massive amount there, and you have, and there's a lot of legitimacy exactly to what you said, is that we were talking about Carlin a minute ago, the former president of the head of the Club of Rome, and he talks at the end in his speech about the eight million children that go missing each year.
	We had Jim Jordan a few months ago discussing the 35,000 kids just in the CPS program that go into foster care that went missing.
	How many congressmen and women did you see stand up and say, let's go investigate these foster parents and find and discover these kids?
	Not one.
	Why?
	Because they all know where they're going.
	They all know what's happening here.
	And so there's an on-world and there's an off-world aspect to this.
	Dr. Michael Sala has talked about this, of the exchange of children and genetic material to ETs that are going off-world, whether it's slave race, whether it's seeding other planets, or whatever it might be.
	But I think that there is something very, very dark that is actually occurring on this planet right now.
	I think that the darkness that we see occurring is what people, by the way, some of the words that were described in conversations with these whistleblowers that were not in front of congressional testimony were demonic.
	This was one of the words that was used a lot, was the word demonic, is that the abilities of these beings is supernatural and demonic.
	Now that should scare people, and I don't mean to scare people, but it makes sense when we start looking at the history of religion and esoteric mysteries and the occult and our ancient history.
	That these things potentially are that answer.
	We talk about the Book of Enoch, we talk about the Watchers, we talk about the Nephilim.
	All of these things are pertinent to actually be real, real things that were conjured up through interdimensional portals that are from a different dimension, or maybe just communicating to us from another planet through dimensionality.
	But what we're seeing here is that There's a dark agenda on this planet.
	The adrenochrome aspect of this is a massive part about it.
	And that humans are being harvested in some way, shape, or form.
	But there's also word that there's malevolent beings out there.
	The ones that want to help us.
	We know that they're out there.
	We've heard of the talking discoveries of them.
	You mean benevolent, not malevolent.
	Yeah, sorry, benevolent.
	Benevolent.
	Yes.
	There's the benevolent ones too that David Grush was talking about.
	Absolutely.
	We have actually what are called guardians.
	That's a group of various off-planet races.
	Also inner-earth races.
	So that gets into a whole different story.
	But I also want to... when you get into the so-called demonic realm, and you're talking about satanism and all of that, which is basically focusing on Eventually, a transhuman agenda, okay, which is non-human, all right?
	But at the same time, it's coming from an artificial intelligence.
	This is where it's gone, that we've begun to understand that these races that have a demonic sort of aspect to them, what appears, we call it, on our earth, demonic.
	First of all, they're marauding species, so we're not the only prey out there.
	They prey on all the species out there that they consider below them and try to take them over.
	And one of the motivations behind the scenes appears to be AI.
	So as we have this discussion, we don't necessarily have to talk about this today because it's quite a big discussion, and you and I have touched on this in some other interviews.
	But I just want to say, let's not forget, let's not just stop.
	Yep, absolutely.
	the satanic demonic side of it, because there's an AI portion to all of this that can arguably maybe even make sense of all of it.
	Yep, absolutely.
	And I think that the evil aspect that we're talking about, I call it soulless, is exactly I believe that it is artificial intelligence, and I believe that it has captured a lot of people within these high-ranking positions.
	And I think that it, in some way, shape, or form, whether it's through technology integration into their bodies, whether it's through some biological scenario or what, that they are controlling various people or even suppressor consciousness or replace them.
	And I've talked about this at extent on my show that we wondered what it was.
	Was it parasitic?
	Was it alien?
	You know, is it AI?
	And AI comes in to be the best reasonable solution.
	There was some information that came out a few years ago from a team of remote viewers that looked at an unknown target And what they discovered is that they saw these two men talking about this piece of technology that they just discovered, and he claimed it was under hard water.
	So, to me, I imagine ice.
	And they knew exactly what it was, and fast forward two years later, research is funded, they're somewhere in South America, and they've redeveloped this technology and integrated it.
	And it ends up being an artificial intelligence that they hook themselves up to and link up with it.
	And they go into this state of absolute bliss, to where all of their cells in their body are being controlled by this artificial intelligence.
	All cancers taken away, all disease, all chemical imbalances, it's all remedied.
	And they get to exist in this complete state of bliss during this time, while this artificial intelligence gets to basically take in their data.
	And he looked at it as benevolent.
	But he saw that there was a much much darker side of this, that eventually this type of technology would lead to human integration and eventually enslavement.
	And I think that this is, this remote viewer specifically, was spot on correct with what is happening actually right now.
	And I believe that this technology that they found, I don't believe it's extraterrestrial, I don't believe it was given to us, but I think it was ours.
	I think that it was technology that's been on this planet for a very, very long time that we rediscovered.
	Okay, well, that may be the case, except that we also came to this planet from outer space.
	We're actually Lyra, so whatever might be brought with us.
	Now, there have been several seedings, as they call it, of humanity as well, but be that as it may, there's There's reason to believe that actually COVID is link links you to the board what we call the board which is you know you can think Star Trek board but it's actually it's a cube and the cube goes back not only to Mecca all right but to Saturn.
	Okay and so there is a control mechanism released on this planet to control humanity through the planet of Saturn and Saturn is also said to be a portal into other dimensions.
	Now the Sun is also a portal and and various other things so just to throw all that out there so that you know we kind of again Putting some context into this information.
	I know that Courtney Brown, since you you're talking about some remote viewers, Courtney Brown is a more or less a college professor who got into leading a group of remote viewers and studied it for many, many years.
	Farsight.
	.org I think is his website but I do watch from time to time what his viewers are up to and he has about five or six and he used to have like the top remote viewers in the world that were involved they have sort of they sort of abandoned ship at a certain point I think when he went down the alien road
	But in essence, these younger, newer remote viewers have remote viewed all the way back to a galaxy next door to us that has been taken over by an AI.
	That's what they said, and that the AI took over that galaxy.
	It's now on the process of taking over ours.
	And this does seem to basically coincide with the information I got from Captain Mark Richards.
	So, there is positive and negative AI, but there's also, you know, this can also, if you really want to roll all of this back, this can get into this idea that we're in a simulation, all right?
	That this is not the first time we've come across this, and that it may have something to do with our, even our, the structure of our carbon bodies versus silicon.
	Because I have a whistleblower who has told me that the structure of our DNA is actually, if I got it right, silicon.
	And silicon-based.
	So that it can be coded.
	In other words, just like a computer chip.
	And that scientists are beginning to find this out.
	So we're, you know, this is kind of like a brave new world of understanding who we really are, why they have such an agenda for us, and what is the future of humanity.
	You know, not just here on Earth, but off planet as well.
	But we are definitely being invaded, to bring it back to this page here, and that the Chinese in particular, Have been sort of invaded or taken over by a certain race of off world aliens.
	And that that group is trying to basically through the Chinese take over our planet.
	And that gets back to where Hillary and Bill and other traders, such as the whole Biden show.
	is run by the CCP, it is said behind the scenes.
	At least the portion that Trump and team have not been able to control, if you want to look at it like that.
	Yeah, no, I think that there's a lot of truth there, that when you talk about humanity being seeded throughout this galaxy and others and coming from another galaxy, this is what I've been told for a very, very long time.
	And actually, I've shared this story with many people before, is that There was a great battle that occurred a long, long, long time ago.
	And we sought refuge out in this area of the galaxy.
	And we were discovered, and our civilization was destroyed, and now we're on the course of rebuilding.
	And now this whole integration is coming back, and that you're right, that this galaxy potentially is being taken over by this evil that took over and haunted us from a long, long time ago.
	By the way, this battle has also been fought by the Anunnaki and the Pleiadians.
	So you know that it's not just us.
	It's humanoid species.
	It's actually other kinds of carbon-based species.
	This, for some reason, has become the prey of this AI to expand and to take over.
	using these other races, the so-called negative-based races that are hierarchical, by the way.
	And this is where the Nazis get their hierarchy from as well.
	Yeah.
	And I think that it's interesting that all of this is coinciding right now with where we are on our evolutionary path.
	I I talk a lot about the spiritual evolution of how a lot of our ancient cultures designed within the monuments, within the various writings that they brought forth, whether it was religious, philosophical, or esoteric or occult, is that they were all talking about Specifically, this processional event of how our solar system travels the galaxy and how it moves through various different densities of gases and particles throughout our galaxy.
	And this is the process of evolution that is built up
	in the universe specifically to evolve a species slowly over time and that we hit these grand bursts of evolution and that right now we're actually coming into the age of Aquarius is actually this one specific point where we're moving into this great burst of evolution and this is why the Globus, the Deep State, whoever we're going to call them, are so hell-bent on doing what they're doing because they want to jump in at that point of evolution and they want to keep us down.
	So they rise up and we stay down and they get to become the gods that they wanted and rule over us.
	And this is what this whole push for for this new world order is actually coming forth in a relative sense.
	But I do believe that there's tons of external and internal affiliation that's going on with this.
	Absolutely, and well said.
	I can say that the In my spiritual sort of background here, the way I see it is that humanity is given these challenges to rise above, and that we wouldn't have a challenge if we didn't have the makeup and basically this vehicle that has the ability to actually surmount.
	These challenges and go beyond them.
	So that's the way the universe or the multiverse or God, if you want to call it God, the force works to refine its vehicles.
	All right, to give them a challenge to go up against to prove that Godhead is actually superior to all and controls all.
	So, you know, in a sense, we fight on that team, too.
	So, but it's great having you here.
	I want to actually sort of get you to bring forward any small details that you're getting about these whistleblowers and sort of, you know, because this all gets gets up to this project Bluebeam and the possibility that they want to do this, which I've talked at length about in various interviews and so and so forth.
	So, what's your point of view on that?
	Do you want to talk about that?
	And what are your sources saying about this eventuality?
	Yeah, so, like I said, we've been kind of communicating more so now than ever before, and actually information's flowing pretty good.
	What we are hearing is that in the next weeks to months, there are going to be massive revelations on this topic.
	Coming from legitimate credential sources, very similar to David Grouch, that are coming forth, that are going to testify, that are going to be going public, with the possibility of legitimate actual evidence being released with this information.
	And this is everything from those DVDs and photos and videos that we talked about, things that we've never seen, that have never been leaked, that potentially military film type video of stuff that just We'll blow our minds that in the next 18 months to so forth, we could potentially learn about what's actually been happening up in space.
	We've been seeing a lot of these meteors falling from the sky, green and so forth, looking incredibly massive, streaking through the sky.
	A lot of us believe that these are craft that are being shot down, probably with this new Antarctic-based weapon.
	And we have every reason to believe that that is actually the case.
	It started actually under Donald Trump in 2018 when we first started seeing him over the West Coast, California and Oregon.
	We saw a few in Florida.
	Now we just saw one in Nevada.
	That information potentially could be coming out.
	You know, alien recreation vehicles, these ARVs that are being flown by us, that we have not mastered the technology, but we know enough about the technology that we're using them.
	And like I was saying before, this is the biggest fear of the whistleblowers, is that, you know, one country or this deep, dark project that's being run by the military-industrial complex It's going to have more power than any nation on this planet.
	It's going to have more power than any standing army.
	And that they could seize the whole world simply with this technology.
	That is the biggest fear coming from them.
	A lot of them have said that they're not scared of ATEEZ.
	In my view, that's already been done.
	In other words, they have been running the planet from below the planet, from off-planet, for a long time now.
	And in fact, one of my whistleblowers talks about, actually more than one, an off-planet AI that is actually controlling our planet.
	And that includes the financial system, by the way, and why it's kind of locked into this sort of forever struggle right between you know what is that and now we call the QFS which has been created as well by the white hats and then the uh digital you know central bank digital currency system that wants to control all of us so that what we're talking we wouldn't be having this fight if they weren't already Almost beyond successful.
	So these whistleblowers are perhaps, you know, soft-pedaling in order to, you know, lighten the reality, which is that this has happened.
	That Basel, Switzerland is run from off-planet.
	And I have this from several whistleblowers and not just one.
	And this is where You see, this is where the battle gets very complex for the White Hats as well.
	How do you battle this sort of technological giant that is under our feet, in essence?
	And how do you make deals with them?
	And Trump and his sort of heritage, you know, his uncle and with the Tesla tech and so on, there's reason to believe he also has a Trump card in this regard and that he is able to negotiate.
	He is a negotiator and that his team may, in essence, have already come up against this sort of, I don't know, Rubicon, if you want to call it that.
	So we're at a, actually a brave new world, a great awakening. - Yeah.
	People on Earth, on surface Earth, have fallen far behind.
	And this has been documented over and over again by various, even ufologists such as Rich Dolan and others.
	It's a rogue civilization.
	We have actually a split between us and what's going on, and even Katherine Austin Fitz has come to this conclusion, former secretary who worked under one of the presidents, Nixon or whoever it was, and is also, you know, very active in the community at this time and disclosing the reality that she was shared when she was in office, even invited, and I know the person who invited her, To view an alien body.
	She refused because she didn't want to, for some reason, alter her perception of reality or whatever.
	But these are, you know, Jackie Gleason, you know, bringing, you know, Nixon bringing Jackie Gleason underground to show him the reality of this.
	So.
	In a sense, you could even see that as a metaphor for what's happening now with the global release of some of this information.
	How deep it goes and how far they will go is the question.
	If I have anything to say about it, they're going to go very deep.
	If others have something to say about it, they're going to give you a more superficial explanation.
	But you didn't answer my question, so I'm going to bring it back and ask you, do you believe that this is a build-up to a Project Bluebeam type alien invasion, fake alien invasion?
	Well, we also have a real one taking place, and that is documented, and I can Elaborate on that but let's concentrate for now on the fake alien invasion scenario that Randy Kramer as a marine came forward four or five years ago at a conference that I was at and basically said they're going to do this and they're going to do it at the time he said within three years.
	I think they were slowed down in their in their project because of COVID which was an alien invasion that you know the black
	Nanographene oxide packaged with spike proteins and other toxins is a delivery system for taking over your body and according to my whistleblower David Dare, it creates the building blocks to turn you into a silicon-based life form as opposed to carbon.
	So I know that's a long-winded thing but Yeah, here is do you believe that we're building and that the dark, you know, the dark side is actually releasing this information with an intention.
	Okay, go ahead.
	So I think it's actually the opposite.
	I believe that they were planning on this type of event.
	We've known this since Carol Roslin, who was lab assistant to Wernher von Braun, discussed the originations of Project Blue Beam, where Wernher von Braun said that there is going to be an alien invasion, except it's going to be us.
	It's not going to be them.
	And that this is going to be a fake-out, the weaponized space, all this stuff.
	I think that we were leading up to this event.
	And I think that this is what I was just talking about, these objects that are being shot down.
	That are flying through the sky, they're meteoroids, right?
	I think that this was all preparation for it.
	I think that what we're seeing with people like David Brewster, these whistleblowers coming forward, is they know this, they see it, and this is why they're coming out to get this information out there.
	I think this is why Trump has that information that he has.
	I think this is why he's got what we consider to be the Trump card that blows the whistle on that whole operation.
	Because we know if something like that did happen, like UFOs appeared over our city, Donald Trump would go right to the microphone, tell the whole world and say, it's us, guys.
	They're tricking us.
	This is all a whole thing to weaponize space and basically kick out these one guys that are actually good with it.
	Because you remember, Hami Ashan, the former head of Israeli Space Defense, said that Trump met with the Galactic Federation, that they were more than happy and welcome with us, but said, hey, you guys aren't necessarily ready yet.
	You guys got some internal struggles and strifes.
	So, you know, we know that there are benevolent beings out there.
	Paul Hellyer, the former Canadian defense minister, talked about these guys.
	But we do believe that there are this Fourth Reich, this Nazi regiment, who is break off civilization, who is running the deep military industrial state that has these technologies and black projects, that they are planning something of that nature.
	And I think that what we're seeing with all these disclosures is a counter offensive to what they were doing.
	It's blowing their projects up.
	Because if you look at it, It's chaos right now in the DoD and the intelligence agencies with this information.
	It's not going good for the people trying to keep these secrets under wraps, and there's a lot of pissed off people out there.
	Arguably, those people are run by the Deep State, okay?
	Whether you like it or not.
	So, their orders, their sort of secrecy, even the levels of secrecy, and this gets into, you know, even the limits on the White Hats.
	So, I understand what you're saying.
	I'm not so sure it's that clear-cut.
	And I also question whether or not it's really a White Hat agenda, because there's arguably, especially with 107, been, you know, repeated entreaties, not just with me, but others that, such as Simon Parks, who came out about this not long ago, saying that he had been told by the White Hats, do not talk about this subject.
	Okay, do not go into the alien card.
	And I was told that, and perhaps others.
	So they have limited the ceiling, if you will, on their activities and on where they want people's minds to go, because they want them on the ground and about voting someone into office.
	But There's reason to believe that this is a deep state tactic to actually launch what is in essence a deep state project and has been a beloved project in essence.
	And according to Randy Kramer, and by the way Mark Richards who I told him after I had met with Randy up at a conference three or four years ago when he announced this, I said What do you think about that?
	And he said, I think it's a good idea.
	So in other words, that the military has reached the end of their rope as well, because our military has been split.
	Right along these lines, okay?
	That we have a whole side of the military that is absolutely in the dark, just like the public.
	And these splits that also, by the way, Mark Richards says that Congress knows.
	They have known for decades, okay?
	So, any indication of fear may be individually based, but the reality, I mean, I don't know if you were, you know, there with the Stephen, um, What's his last name?
	Uh, whatever.
	His, his, his, you know, he had a disclosure conference.
	Yeah, Stephen Greer.
	No, not Greer.
	I'm not talking about Greer.
	I'm talking about Stephen Bassett.
	And so I attended a disclosure conference that took place in Washington, D.C.
	with Congress people and ex-Congress people, mainly ex-Congress people.
	But it was, it was actually quite huge.
	It went on for days.
	I filmed and did interviews.
	That was like 2014, right?
	Probably.
	And so my point here is that the Congress has been, even the peripheral Congress, the people that are not part of the, you know, SAP, the Special Access Programs, or have not known, they're not party to them supposedly, But word gets around, and some of these, you know, some Congress people will be more read in than others, you know, the routine.
	But the bottom line is, this is like a lot of things in our government and in the world at this time.
	A lot of people, governments, high-level officials, know a great deal more than they're saying.
	And I could even rattle off a lot of people's names who do.
	And I know they do, okay?
	And there's evidence that they do.
	In other words, they have disclosed or some circumstance has revealed that they're part of this type of thing.
	So there's a cover-up that is government-wide, worldwide, on the top levels and has been going on for decades.
	And at the same time, there is, you know, Marco Rubio, you know who he is?
	He's a member of Congress.
	He's been pushing for some reason for some degree of disclosure.
	But there's also a pushback, and there's been a constant pushback on all of this.
	And the question is, where does the pushback on these, even the whistleblowers, right, coming forward even now, where does the pushback come?
	Right now, Biden signed a, basically a sort of a whistleblower protection act just recently.
	The question is, did he sign it?
	It was under the last NDAA, National Defense Authorization Act.
	Right.
	Did he sign it because Trump told him to, or did he sign it because the deep state wanted him to?
	You know, again, we're going to go back.
	I don't think this conversation, even surrounding this idea of a fake, I call it a fake real alien vision, because all I said, Randy Kramer came You know, barging off stage, got in my face and started yelling at me when I said, how do you do a fake alien invasion when the real ones are here?
	Bob Dean has talked about the Anunnaki walking the halls of the Pentagon.
	I have lots of testimony to this effect.
	We have aliens living among us, including the tall whites that Charles Hall has revealed in several books.
	Bob Bigelow in a private dinner with James Fox, the UFO documentarist, told him that they walk amongst.
	That they're already here.
	the freeway.
	Well, Bob Bigelow in a private dinner with James Fox, the UFO documentarist, told him that they walk amongst.
	Yeah, they do.
	That they're already here.
	They walk amongst.
	And by the way, many of us are actually hybrids.
	So hybrids of hybrids, okay?
	So we're not just talking what you're calling the Nephilim, but we have hybrids of hybrids of hybrids.
	We have many different DNA mixtures here on the planet actively.
	involved.
	And some of the good aliens are walking around as high human hybrids.
	And some of the children are coming in as human hybrids.
	So this, these are things that you and I may know, but I I think most of my audience knows about it by now.
	I would say the general public is pretty much in the dark.
	But there have been sci-fi movies revealing all of this, right?
	Yeah, and I think that the mainstream public is about to be in shock and awe over the next two years.
	And if there's a great series out there that could probably bring some rationalism to what's happening or what's been happening, check out the Stargate SG-1 series.
	There's a lot of good nuggets and truth tucked away in that.
	The original movie was actually re-curated, and they had the consulting staff come in from the US Air Force because they were using NORAD's facility.
	as a mock-up.
	So the Air Force came in, consulted, and said, "The only thing that we want you guys to change, instead of little great aliens, use these little snakes that travel into the body and wrap around the spinal cord and suppress the consciousness as the enemy." And so quite interesting right there, but that's probably one of the best series I've found that actually puts out a lot of good info on this type of stuff.
	Yes, there are a number of such series.
	Even X-Files qualifies to some degree on that.
	My favorite is Battlestar Galactica.
	At any rate.
	Okay, I've kept you long enough.
	I'm sure there's more that you could share, you know, bits and pieces and so on, but I guess we'll leave that for another show in the future.
	We're going to have 24 coming up, too, here in the future, so I'm going to keep you updated, and then we'll plan something else.
	Okay.
	All right.
	I hope everyone's enjoyed the show.
	It's been a lot of fun for me, and thanks so much, Josh.
	Thanks, Jerry.
	All right.
	Take care.
	Bye.

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