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May 6, 2023 - Project Camelot

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BANKING COLLAPSE: THE WHITE HATS AND THE CONTROLLED DEMOLITION OF AMERICA

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	Thank you.
	Hello everyone and welcome to Patriot Underground.
	Today is May 5th, 2023.
	Thank you so much for joining me, folks, to discover the truth beneath the surface.
	I really do appreciate everybody out there taking the time to listen.
	So tonight, I'm very happy to welcome Kerry Cassidy back to the show.
	We just had a great roundtable discussion with Gene Decode, I think it was a couple weeks ago now.
	And during that conversation, we touched on a whole host of issues that are really important to understand, vitally important, I would argue.
	So tonight, we're going to delve into A lot of the same topics, but we're also going to cover some new developments as well.
	And by the way, we're going to be scheduling another roundtable for the beginning of June, or really, I think it's the end of May actually, which I'm very excited about.
	But as folks know, Carrie Cassidy is an undeniably powerful voice in the truth movement.
	She has interviewed thousands of whistleblowers.
	Her website projectcamelotportal.com is an absolute, is it really, it's just a treasure trove of intel, of analysis, of research.
	And over the past year, I'm very grateful that Kerry and I have developed a close working relationship.
	We have a great rapport.
	So really, it's my pleasure to welcome you back to the show, Kerry.
	Thank you for being here.
	Oh, thanks for having me.
	And, uh, it's, you know, it's always fun to get your questions and, uh, and then delve into these topics.
	I really consider this, uh, less of an interview and more of just a discussion with a peer.
	And I think people can appreciate that approach.
	Well, it's really amazing to have you back, Carrie.
	And to hear you say that you feel like you're talking to a peer is a great compliment, I have to say.
	So you've been very consistent.
	Why don't we just dive in?
	Because we got a lot to talk about.
	I mean, you've been very consistent in your criticism of some of the approaches that the White Hats have taken to disclosure.
	And you've also been very outspoken about the real war Which is raging beneath the surface that both sides have kept hidden, specifically with regard to the non-terrestrial elements as well as the AI battles that are happening behind the scenes.
	So I want to explore both of those topics tonight, and I thought that a good place to begin is the most recent video released by Anonymous.
	Which has exposed many of the details with regard to non-terrestrial contact, the secret space program, as well as many other agencies involved in keeping these vitally important truths from the public.
	And I know that you recently published an article on your reaction to this video, so why don't you break down for us some of the information which is revealed in that video, which you thought was really relevant, and discuss the highlights which you think are central to understanding the real context of the war that's being fought both underground And of course, on an interplanetary and even interdimensional level.
	And we can use that as sort of a springboard for our discussion.
	Okay uh well I mean the bottom line is actually that they didn't release uh much on that video as far as I'm concerned but I have a different point of view than most people because I've been delving into this uh deeply with various whistleblowers especially from above top secret and that goes back as I've said many times 18 years so
	What they did do is they gave a good overview, I thought, of the playing field to some degree, although they never actually mentioned the Secret Space Program.
	They've got some disinfo in there.
	They emphasize microbes on Mars.
	Which is, you know, that's always a sort of red flag, if you will, for people that are not in the know.
	Now, I think that what they did was they purposely brought up things like global warming and microbes on Mars to sort of Put themselves in a PG sort of central position for whatever is going to come later, if something is going to come of this.
	And I also think that they perhaps have been infiltrated and.
	I'm not sure how or in what ways so.
	It does appear that they're what I got is an undertone of anger in in the post in general in the video.
	Uh, anger at the secrecy.
	And I think that's significant.
	And I appreciate that.
	The idea that anonymous and of course, that's a worldwide organization made up of individuals who are, you know, um, consider themselves, I think hackers, what we call hackers and, uh, or cyber, you know, investigators, whatever you want to call them.
	So.
	I think it's important to realize that this may not this person.
	I'm not so sure they're speaking for all of an anonymous and and I do think that there's some indication that they will be stopped and therefore, I don't even know if we'll see another video on the topic that being the way things are right now and funny enough.
	Um, as I also mentioned, um, I mentioned that stuff about it on my telegram, and I think I also wrote an article about it, but.
	Basically, they're, they're putting themselves out there as, as a group that has the capability of this harks back to Gary McKinnon, uh, 1 of our top whistleblowers from way back in the early days of Project Camelot.
	And I actually flew to England and interviewed him in person.
	Um, way before anyone else pretty much did and I got a lot of the real story as far as I'm concerned that never really came out, uh, even when he was going to be put up on charges and they were trying to ship him, extradite him to Guantanamo.
	So his mother stepped in.
	She knew a lot of celebrities in the music industry and got people riled up in England to protest his being extradited.
	So he ended up, I think, under house arrest for a few years and they took away his internet, you know, privileges.
	But I also think that when he got into the, he actually, if you don't know who Gary McKinnon is, he hacked into the Pentagon.
	He hacked into what is basically the evidence of the Secret Space Program.
	Part of that being Solar Warden, which is a body, actually I think it's made up of not just our terrestrial officers, but non-terrestrial officers as he found, and also probably ETs.
	So they patrol our solar system is how it's told to the public to make to basically know every crap that's coming and going.
	This is what other even other whistleblowers have talked about.
	So because he's not the only one who talked about Solar Warden.
	So this what I'm saying about an anonymous doing this video.
	They didn't really come out with a lot of detail.
	They talked, they really concentrated on Antarctica and they had some nice visuals and they talked about something they're gonna do as opposed to what they were doing, in my opinion.
	So they didn't really have the nitty-gritty evidence or whistleblowers there at the time.
	They did relate some information saying that, you know, certain things are coming out about The cities under Atlantis and so on.
	I'm sorry.
	For me, I believe that Antarctica is Atlantis, is part of the island of Atlantis that's submerged.
	So, what you find down there is actually signs of Atlantis.
	And he doesn't, or the anonymous person doesn't realize that or doesn't acknowledge that.
	So, sorry.
	I always, I accidentally call it Atlantis all the time.
	Well, I kind of figured that you would view this video in some ways as, you know, like a PG version or a whitewash, so to speak, of the issue, you know, the real truth behind the issue.
	And I'm curious, given that, I mean, do you view Anonymous as being aligned with the White Hats?
	Or do you think that they're sort of operating as a separate entity?
	Do you think they're trying to prompt the White Hats along to disclose more of this information?
	Just kind of curious what your thoughts are, because I've wondered for a long time about Anonymous and kind of where they stand.
	Well, we have a changing terrain, right?
	So back in the days when Anonymous first came forward, the White Hats weren't public.
	So we have no way of knowing how much they've been infiltrated or influenced by the White Hats up to this point.
	I can say that they seemed to have humanity's best interests at heart at least that's how they came across over all over all these years in the things that they would uh sort of have a conscience about uh the and bring out to the public and protest about in in their you know their their videos with that the mask which comes from um the november uh is it yeah yeah
	so the v for vengeance but the seventh i think it's the fifth Yeah, yes, November, November.
	Yeah, remember, remember the 5th of November, right?
	Okay, yeah.
	So, anyway, that they utilize that mask and they're using that in this video at the very beginning, of course.
	So, what I'm trying to say is that it's unclear.
	I do see that the disinfo they're putting out would come from the deep state, however.
	So, things like microbes on Mars, the uh what what they're talking about uh having to do with um global warming which is actually quite shocking to hear that they seem completely oblivious to the truth uh so i don't know if that's a mistake conscious mistake or a purposeful error um or it means that they're this is a it could be a tell yeah
	Yeah, or are they stimulated by the plans of the New World Order to have a fake alien invasion, but it's actually a real alien invasion, a depiction of the real alien invasion, Kind of a mixture of the two in the end and whether this is a piece, you know along that road a clue along that road that they're trying to get humanity to.
	Open their minds to the possibility of the battle with aliens, which is really going on right now.
	It's not something in the future, but you know, and I get into all that and we can talk more about that.
	But I just want to say that at this point one thing that I think that was noticeable as it didn't stay on before it snooze very long.
	It is a YouTube video.
	I did link it on the The page that I have for the story, but just saying that it, it didn't stay super public very long.
	So I don't know where it's headed.
	Like I said, there are some problems with the knowledge level that the individuals who put the video together have.
	So, just a cautionary, you know, word on that situation.
	But I also, just let me say this, if there was really to be a true anonymous effort to do something on the lines of what Gary McKinnon did back in the day, which was monumental at the time, Revealing the existence of what is called non-terrestrial officers.
	Certain craft, Solar Warden, etc., then they could actually, theoretically, reveal quite a great deal.
	Their aim would probably be along the lines of more of documents, even though they talked about having whistleblowers, which is kind of interesting, because that would indicate they're meeting with people or somehow doing interviews, you see.
	And we have not seen that side of Anonymous at all.
	I'm not sure if they're planning to make a transition to make some of their members more public or how that would be handled.
	There's also the legal side, but all I'm saying is if they were to join the fight to get the truth out about the alien presence and the secret space program and the battles going on, that would be extremely helpful.
	And of course, the battles in underground bases, the rescue of children, the adrenochrome, what I call the adrenochrome highway, the greys and reptilians underground, you know, and it goes on endlessly.
	So they hinted that they're going to go down that road.
	They sounded pretty forceful, and they also talked about collaboration, which I thought was an interesting twist.
	So they just kind of went, they jumped from microbes on Mars to collaborating with aliens towards the end of the video.
	So there was a trajectory there, and I think that's worth taking note of.
	And it definitely implies that contact has already been made, but they didn't get into the specifics on that.
	Right.
	Or did they get into any specifics about... Now, there were parts of the video that, I'll be honest, I didn't watch the entire one because the entire video, I think it was over an hour long.
	So I, you know, I watched segments of it.
	But, so they didn't speak at all about the Secret Space Program.
	They didn't use those words.
	They didn't refer to, you know, they referred to secrecy, but they didn't refer to an actual program that, you know, they they're dealing with a military down in Antarctica.
	They indicated that they sent scientific teams, great deal of secrecy.
	They hinted they, you know, they related to a lot of things and people can watch the video and get their own idea.
	So, just saying that it wasn't.
	I don't even know if they watch.
	They didn't even, at least the sound of it, it's almost sounded like they didn't watch Project Camelot.
	They don't know of Project Camelot or and how that works.
	I don't, I can't even believe at this late juncture that they would even come out with such a video if they hadn't heard of us.
	I know that sounds egotistical to a degree, but it's actually, it's just hard to believe.
	Well, I mean, you've been on the cutting edge, putting out all this information with all your whistleblowers.
	If they want to go down that road, you would just think that they would have already kind of gone there.
	You know what I mean?
	They would definitely have taken this into account.
	And not sounded quite so naive had they done that, but it really does kind of sound like they never went to Project Camelot.
	So, that's kind of interesting.
	Anyway, that's... Maybe they will if they watch this interview.
	Hopefully, they will.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Maybe.
	And I did make a lot of comments about it and wrote my article and so on.
	So, it could have gotten back to them.
	All right, well, let me ask you this, Kerry, and this is really along the same lines.
	I know that you frequently reference 107, as do I, as probably the most high-level source of information that's being put out publicly by the White Hats and really a top general representing the alliance.
	And he's spoken many times about the idea that, and this is related to what we were talking about, slightly deviating from the topic, but this whole concept of 80 plus percent of the population to reach a certain level of awakening, which is sort of like a benchmark that he's consistently maintained which is sort of like a benchmark that he's consistently maintained is necessary before we get to military intervention to avoid civil We've all heard it many, many times.
	But you very effectively have argued that despite what we're being led to believe, that reaching that level of consensus isn't going to happen unless and until the White Hats come forward with the truth about all things.
	But, you know, certainly you definitely emphasize this element of really exo-politics, if you want to call it that.
	The Secret Space Program, non-terrestrials.
	What's going on in Antarctica?
	And you know, you've also spoken many times about this.
	I mean, you really talked about his directive to you personally not to discuss the non-terrestrial issues.
	So my interpretation of their approach, you know, the white hat approach in general, is that they believe that the public needs to be brought up to speed on other issues, shall we say, before disclosure on the topic of sentient life in the universe or other sentient life as well as
	So, I happen to think that they've decided to go with a strategy of incremental disclosure to prevent, at least in their mind, and I suppose this is probably their argument, that they don't want to overwhelm people with too much information too fast.
	And I know that you're very much against that philosophy, and actually, when this came up during our conversation with Gene, you both agreed that there seems to be an underestimation So, you know, tying this together with what we were just talking about with Anonymous, I wanted to give you an opportunity to discuss that a little bit and why you think that's a backwards approach.
	Okay, well what's funny about the whole thing is that today I happened to go on Before It's News and right before the show I saw Simon Parks was discussing certain matters with a couple other people, I'm sorry I don't have their names, and the videos on the front page and it was at the top at the time of Before It's News earlier today so I don't know what's going on now but because they shift around their articles and stuff quite a bit.
	So, but it was interesting to hear him talking about.
	How he's basically under contract with the white hats, which is true, and I know Simon and his wife very well, and they're good friends of mine.
	So this is not new to me.
	However, what was interesting was he was talking the person asking the question was saying, it looks like the white hats are even possibly.
	I think he used the word censoring.
	I'm not sure that was accurate, but he was indicating and asking Simon if he thought that the White Hats were censoring information about the whole ET story.
	That more or less is, that's just my paraphrasing of the person's question.
	And Simon's reply was a little bit, You know, I can't paraphrase Simon all that well, but except to say that he sort of hinted that they were steering people away from the E.T.
	situation because they wanted to, and they've even done that with Simon, because if people know that Simon is a contactee, you know, he says he had a reptilian father and a mantid mother.
	And he went public with that as a member of the, I forget what you call it, but he was a counselor.
	It's a role that you play in England having to do with sort of a city level job.
	Right.
	Right.
	More of a local politician.
	Yes.
	So, but he did that for many years and even did that.
	He even said that and was still reelected into position when he disclosed that to his audience.
	So, It's interesting that he vocalized the fact that the White Hats had basically given him kind of a like a menu of items that he's supposed to talk about and then things that I guess are off base and basically told not to talk about the Elaine thing just like what I was basically.
	Although he signed a contract and I didn't.
	So I continue to have talked about it all this time and Even lately have been actually kind of I don't know what you want to say pounding that drum a little harder now because I feel that we're getting closer and closer to a to sort of a crescendo of a sort, although.
	When we get into the future we may not view this moment as a crescendo okay so let me have that caveat because and that gets into we were going to talk about the banks failing and this whole thing because I've written another article since then of that and and the AI and that factors in here as well and so
	We're looking at a compendium of possible perpetrators, if you will, of enemies, of friends, if you want to look at it like that as well, and so on.
	And I wrote another article called, you know, something like, The Real War is Hidden.
	And I sent that to you.
	I think you saw that as well.
	Yep.
	And and so all of this wraps together to to, you know, I want to bring forward the various elements and how they all factor into the White Hat, not only their sort of plan, but they whether or not they're actually.
	Approaching the all of this the best way, and that also can have to do with the.
	The influence and this gets in even to the banking thing of the AI and so I think when we're talking about our society right now and we're talking about what's happening on what I call surface earth versus under in underground bases and off planet which would be considered more the secret space program or programs around the world then we've got kind of a split those are two two worlds
	Most of the time in the mainstream and even in the alternative, the two don't collide, they don't even interact.
	There's a real line of demarcation and I could name a number of pundits out there that are highly vocal in the area of the sort of the game being played with the white hats and war on the surface earth with Ukraine and this one and that one and even the Biden laptop
	And other disclosures like we were talking about, I think we mentioned recently, which is the McAfee releases that never quite came out the way they could and the Epstein information.
	So, to other people and to people watching this, I think a lot of times they see all this information that I just kind of was throwing out as random, unconnected data points in life today, right?
	But for me, there's a very clear through line and I can see it from beginning to end for some reason.
	It's just the way my mind works, I guess, after all these years.
	And so that's kind of what I just wanted to kind of discuss at this time, stress, go down that rabbit hole and link these things up.
	And I do want to say, I can throw this out at you and also see your reaction.
	But I guess you know that the Clay Clark, it's called something like the reawakening tour of Clay Clark and General Flynn and What we might call the usual suspects.
	A lot of the people speaking on that tour that goes to various cities is now going to be a week from now.
	I think it's the 12th and 13th.
	Interesting dates down at what's called the Durell, which is a Trump owned, I guess, hotel complex or whatever it is.
	And maybe even know more about it than I do, but all I'm saying is that this is very interesting to me because it's coming at a time when we're having sort of this, you know, I mean back-to-back stuff going on, right?
	We've got the Ukraine situation, the possible nukes over there, the escalation, the movement of troops from our country.
	To take part in that war even more, like a greater presence.
	We know there are special forces.
	They've been there.
	They've been there underground rescuing children, theoretically, and bio labs and so on and so forth.
	And also probably dealing with the monetary system of the whole country, which is a money laundering operation.
	So, on the one hand, you've got that going on.
	At the same time, we've got these sort of disclosures happening to do with AI, and I've been watching Bloomberg, for example, and, you know, they're kind of really non-stop dealing with AI, and the recent disclosure that one of the heads in the AI area, Google, I have the article, I think his last name is Hinton, if I have it right, Yeah, TruthGPT, I think.
	basically saying they needed to put the stops on the development of AI.
	At the same time, we got Elon Musk a few weeks ago coming forward with something on that order.
	So I know we're packing a lot.
	Sorry?
	Yeah, I was just mentioning that TruthGPT is Elon's initiative, is AI initiative.
	Okay.
	And the GPT chat bots, in some ways, has escalated the whole consciousness around the world of AI in general.
	And if you listen to Bloomberg, they are basically saying any company that doesn't engage with AI is going to fall behind the wayside and not be part of the critical success of the future of companies.
	This is what they're saying on Bloomberg.
	What I'm doing here is painting a picture and then telling you about an event that's happening in a week and this is it's widely believed that Trump is going to show up at this event.
	Okay, so you're going to have some major players at that event.
	I think Juan is planning to go.
	I know Nino announced he wants he's planning to go and I you know, I think I know certain people like Street Fighter Patriot Street Fighter.
	It's going to be there and and, you know, the list is long and you can go to the website for the Clay Clark, as I say, they call it the reawakening tour and get all the information about the event.
	But they also said they're only allowing 3000 people.
	The reason I even bring it up is because along these lines of White Hat censorship or something akin to that, where they have basically not invited me.
	So you've got a lot of major voices in the Truth Movement who are going to be speaking, and it's a whole slew of people.
	And yet they did avoid inviting me.
	Now, I have had a certain person approach Clay Clark, A couple months ago, actually telling them I wanted to speak at that event, but heard nothing.
	And then I heard recently that he doesn't want to deal with aliens, so he wouldn't invite me anyway.
	But I also know someone, some infiltrator gave him wrong information about me, so ultimately they were kind of going to ban me anyway.
	Someone did go go to bat for me, but it didn't happen.
	So.
	I know this is not so fascinating necessarily to people, but I think if you're looking at the lay of the land, you want to know people are being censored and I'm kind of hinting here that there's a certain degree of censorship.
	If if you're having a lot of the mainstream alternative.
	People speak and it's even conceivable that Tucker could could even show up like a surprise, surprise visit, you know, on stage.
	I'm just throwing that out.
	Certainly, if Trump's going to be there, it's possible that Tucker will be there.
	That would be a huge move if he showed up there.
	That would really be a signal.
	Well, he's been signaling very steadily, even since he was fired.
	And one could even jump to the conclusion that he is fired because he has joined the White Hats, if you want to look at it like that.
	But that's nothing I know, and I'm just conjecturing.
	So the reason I'm bringing this up again is to sort of focus on the idea that there is an agenda that the White Hats have.
	They are steering away from certain key items.
	They are guided, I've been told, you know, point blank by, quote, the generals and the AI.
	And, you know, whatever other consultants they they deal with.
	Right.
	And they've also they also have a very large what you call Republican platform and they don't want to alienate the old guard as they're called.
	Right.
	So if you don't want to alienate the old guard, then you can't talk aliens.
	You can't talk.
	I probably you can't talk.
	You know what I'm saying?
	I mean, you probably you're really in the Christian right.
	And these things are are You know, not supposed to be general knowledge in that group, I don't think.
	So it, you know, and that's a leap I realized, but so.
	Well, I think they're scared of you, quite frankly, Carrie.
	I mean, I think that I think that's really what it comes down to.
	If you want my my view on it, I think they're scared of what you bring to the table because they know how knowledgeable you are.
	And they also know that while you support everything that the White Hats stand for and are fighting for, as we all do, you also very boldly reserve the right to criticize.
	And you know, and I think that that's something that's very healthy.
	I think, obviously, your massive audience is in agreement.
	And certainly, when we look at the top, if you want to call The influencers, I mean, certainly right at the top of that list and should be a part of these events.
	So it does raise questions, I think, about the overall conversation and why, you know, I've continually wondered, and I know you and I have talked about this in the past, why do they continually steer away from this topic of non-terrestrials?
	It seems as if they hint about it, even people like Juan, you know, he's talked about it and what's fascinating to me And I don't know if I've mentioned this to you before, but I mean, there was a video that goes back now, it's probably a decade old, where Juan is driving around in his car.
	I think you know the one on, well, he's always in his car, but you know what I mean?
	He's driving around and, you know, beautiful mountain ranges.
	I'm not sure where he was, but he was on some show.
	I think this was before he even went by 107.
	Uh, he had a different name.
	It was like W or something back then.
	I don't know, but anyways.
	That's the second one, the Wayne Willett name.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, he was driving around and he was talking about how, you know, the moon is a spaceship and he was, you know, I mean, he was really getting hardcore and deep into these subjects and anybody can go back and listen to these, to these videos.
	And then you compare that to what he's discussing nowadays.
	It's pretty dramatically, it's a pretty dramatic shift.
	And you kind of have to wonder what happened and, you know, why in this era of the Great Awakening, where we're all supposed to be investigating these things, do they continually steer away?
	And one thing that I'm curious about is this whole concept of using reverse psychology.
	I'm just going to throw this out there and see what you think.
	You might agree, disagree, but is it possible That they're kind of using this idea of reverse psychology and in essence largely ignoring this non-terrestrial angle and a secret space program, all these things, while at the same time we see that the deep state is continuing to build the narrative for an alien invasion.
	Is it reasonable to think that maybe the White Hats have infiltrated the MSM and they're sort of driving a lot of that narrative prep and essentially playing both sides, much in the same vein as they approached the vaccine issue by having Trump, you know, support it optically while knowing full well that his supporters were going to do their own research.
	They weren't going to listen to, you know, in essence, to what they were told by their leaders, by the white hat leaders, and just, in essence, do their own investigation.
	Are they doing that perhaps with this issue as well?
	By steering so far away from it, is it actually having the reverse effect, I think?
	And is that maybe intentional?
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Well, like the dark side, who likes to run both sides, The White Hats have, I guess, learned by example.
	And Art of War is always playing, you know, game theory, all of this stuff.
	So you can't rule that sort of thing out.
	However, I will say this as a caveat, because in the vaccine story, Juan has never varied from the fact that he did not recommend it.
	He was stridently against it.
	And he was on many shows being stridently against it.
	And he even went so far as to do a roundtable with, you know, with top alternative doctors and so on to emphasize that, you know, that the Vax was not, you know, trustable and so on.
	I don't think he's fluctuated in any way in that regard.
	Now, I've said this before, I believe that Trump and Juan are two sides of, and the leadership actually, of what we call the White Hats.
	So that when Trump does something one can do the opposite and that way the the pillars holding up the sort of structure of the white hat platform are sort of survive.
	And so I think during that whole vaccine that that you know the whole vaccine the last three years that was most evident.
	Now before that One also calling himself W initially when he first came out from what I remember and he talked to what are called had men and had men who I believe are affiliated with the CIA and and they were, you know, they're well known.
	Broadcasters.
	I don't remember if they're still out there right now, so I don't know.
	I've seen them on InfoWars a few times back in the day, but I haven't heard a lot about them.
	So I don't know if they've prevailed in terms of their sort of platform and popularity, but back in the day, they were quite popular in the alternative world.
	And this goes all the way back to Art Bell.
	So we're talking a lot of years ago.
	But Nonetheless, I think about 10 back in 2010 or thereabouts is when Juan first came out as this secret witness called W and that was a basically taken from Wayne Willett, who is his what I consider to be his partner.
	Who is what we call the second one and is with him on most sites.
	So no matter where he goes, they both wear the same disguise.
	Sometimes they interchangeably, the one substitutes for the other.
	Sometimes they even can make mistakes along those lines.
	And I was able to meet both of them, have conversations with both of them, etc.
	So that's the reason I know so much about it.
	Now we have some, at least one incident, I think it was down in, um, La Jolla, California, where there appears to have been another, yet another one, which was, uh, supposedly bigger and taller than the other two.
	I didn't hear about that one.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	A third one, but he, he only made an apparent appearance, I think, because, um, my understanding was that Juan, the real Juan, actually the two ones were at the reckoning.
	In Texas, I happen to be there with them with them, but you know what I'm saying at the same event as them and that's why I know they were there.
	But also at this almost the same time, like that night.
	In what would have been, you know, somebody would had a leap on a plane and go over there so quickly.
	I think that what they said was this was yet another one that showed up at least partially during the time.
	Maybe when he couldn't quite make it on time and was there for for at least one of the days.
	Anyway, that was a third one, but that's just who knows and it almost doesn't matter really to be honest, but Okay, so so to back up what I'm trying to say here is that we have an, you know, it's it's a situation in which there are topics being.
	Ignored.
	But at the same time, and I just wrote this article about the banking, you know, the collapse.
	And if you, in fact, I could draw, I could bring the article up if it might be helpful to you and to people.
	But there are some very specific bullet points that we could talk about.
	And one of them is a statement by Trump.
	Uh, several weeks ago that I just happened to grab off one of his channels on Telegram, assuming it's actually Trump making the statement.
	You know, you have to always keep an open mind as to what goes on here, but.
	It did, you know, it did appear to be a Trump statement from a Trump channel and and I can even, you know, I'll paraphrase it and you can go read it yourself.
	It's towards the bottom of my article, but he's basically saying there's going to be a bank collapse and we're going to have a recession or he was actually hinting.
	Sorry, a depression.
	And he was saying this a couple weeks ago when Juan at the same time on shows was saying, well, it's only going to last two weeks.
	So there's kind of a contradiction there as well.
	I'd say.
	One was saying it's only going to last two weeks.
	I mean, to me, it's this has been ongoing now.
	I mean, well, I'm talking about this so-called recession, you know, there's going to be a recession.
	One was saying you only need he wasn't saying you needed two years worth of food.
	He was saying you needed to something like two weeks or something like that.
	So.
	Um, you know, you'd have to go back and do your own research and compare the statements 1 was making at the time that Trump made that statement.
	But it was only it's only been a few weeks since that went on.
	The reason it's it's it matters right now is because.
	Now, everywhere, we're noticing that actually the.
	Collapse, which.
	According to one and according to other back channel sources such as Mike Gill who's done all this you know unearthing of evidence coming from New Hampshire and then exposing the cartels etc that SVB specifically failed because the cartel took their money out of it and that was in the to the tune of billions that all these other excuses they're making which is insane
	You know, those other things they're saying is the reason have been those are just doing business as usual where we didn't have collapse of banks.
	You just see what I'm saying.
	So, what they're not acknowledging is there has to be a new element that came in.
	And there are many other stories behind the failure of the banks.
	I was just listening again to Bloomberg and they're basically trying to say, well, it's just, you know, it's a collapse of confidence now in the banking system.
	But that's actually what they said back in the day when they put into place the FDIC.
	And I have also in my article, I've highlighted a video That Phil Goodlowski has made very recently, like a few days ago.
	Explaining how the FDIC can't be relied upon to do anything to save your money because they're part of the group that's taking your money and part of the collapsing bank, you know, masters of the banking industry and so on and so forth.
	So the whole thing is, you know, it's unbelievable.
	You know, it's just the humans are being conned again, just extremely, you know, Well, let me jump in here and ask you, because I had a question on the banking collapse, and I think it's kind of relevant, because it's accelerating, obviously.
	You mentioned Silicon Valley Bank.
	And that was, I think, about a month ago now.
	And it seems like they're dropping like flies.
	We had First Republic, which was the second largest bank failure in US history.
	And that's had ripple effects on all these other regional banks.
	I'm sure you've seen that it's, you know, their, you know, their stock prices are just absolutely plummeting.
	So to say that there's a loss of confidence is accurate, but obviously that's not the real cause.
	But, you know, it's inevitable that we're moving closer and closer to what I think you and I would agree is a controlled demolition of this fiat system.
	And I also happen to believe that both the dark side and the White Hats want this to happen, but for obviously very different reasons.
	You know, the Black Hats, they want to roll out their central bank digital currency, and that's a whole conversation in and of itself.
	I know some people think that I think most people that I've talked to who I consider to be credible and knowledgeable don't think this is going to get very far.
	I mean, Jim Willey said that it's going to sink in the harbor, you know, if it even gets released.
	But, you know, certainly both sides, they want this old system to implode for very different reasons.
	The White Hats presumably are doing this to roll out the quantum financial system.
	And I know this is a, you know, this is a topic that gets talked about quite a bit, but you and I haven't really discussed that in any kind of detail.
	And I'm curious, you know, what do you see happening with the quantum financial system based upon the research that you've done, the people that you've talked to?
	There's just so much information out there, you know, because obviously this system is collapsing.
	It's undeniable.
	The question is, what's going to be the outcome?
	Where are we going to go?
	And again, this is sort of where the parallel construction of both strategies of the White Hats and the Black Hats comes into play here.
	You know, they both sort of, the game theory aspect, they both want the same events to happen, but they want them to result in a different outcome, obviously.
	So I'll just toss that out to you.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Yeah, which is insane.
	So that's why I titled this article that I've got now on the screen I'm sharing, The Banking Collapse, the White Hats, and the Controlled Demolition of America.
	What we're really talking about is a controlled demolition as far as I'm concerned.
	This is the Phil Godlewski video.
	If you want to watch it, it's embedded.
	And I do commentary on some points in the video.
	Uh, but it is a, I think it's an educational video for, for people that, because I get calls and emails, uh, even right now, people saying, what do we do with our money?
	Do I have any advice?
	And, you know, I'm, I kind of, I've never in the past, I've never been a person who's concentrated on the financial system or story.
	Although I strangely had whistleblowers that gave, gave me quite an education on that.
	That note, so I did learn things over the years and I still am consulting with some of those great sources and some are from pretty high level and and pretty deep in.
	And I can say that 107 has repeatedly said, you know.
	Just like Trump that the banks are going to fail, but you need to have coins of silver and gold in your house and you now feel good.
	Lusky is suggesting some kind of a wallet that he has and I forget the name of the wallet and he explains it in the video.
	If you want to be able to transfer from.
	Dollars to coins or or or to pay bills or something, but we're all in that position.
	In other words, if this thing is going to crash the way it appears to be continuing to crash again.
	Really like a building that they're taking down, but it's a control demolition.
	And now we've just seen another, I guess, new Republic Bank going down.
	And the fact, and I think Phil makes a very good case, is there is no way they're going to rescue people's investments to these banks, because they're to the tune of billions upon billions.
	And it is very likely that the billions upon billions of investments that even have been supporting the banks up to now, and even for the last To decades or more is as a lot of it is money laundered from the cartels and from what we call the usual suspects, which is gun running drugs, child trafficking or human trafficking and so on.
	And by the way, this has also been the income that has kept the secret space program operational all these years is those same that same triumph for it, if you will, of devious.
	Operations and Mike Gill is the 1 person who has gathered a lot of evidence in his state in particular, but it appears that his state is actually a cookie cutter for every state in our union and how they operate behind the scenes.
	That's what we're finding.
	And certainly Arizona was is right up there with New Hampshire on that level.
	So.
	What we're looking at, and by the way, I've got this article here just, and it's on my front page if you want to go to it in that way.
	This is the... Mike Gill, I'm sorry, Carrie.
	Mike Gill didn't mention anything specific about...
	No, he doesn't even know or at least relate to that.
	I interviewed him, but we also only talk about things like the triumvirate that I'm talking about.
	He really concentrates on that.
	He concentrates on the drug running, especially the fentanyl.
	And he talks about the money laundering, right, from all that those operations, the child trafficking, the human trafficking, and the gun running, which is like a no-brainer.
	So that's his area.
	His area is what you would call surface earth.
	I am telling you that behind the scenes it It's just a side note in a certain sense, but it's not really a side note that the secret space program, which is arguably running our surface governments from behind the scenes.
	Okay, this gets into what they call the deep state.
	Why they call it the deep state is because the leadership is very possibly underground in underground cities.
	And most of the time could care less what we're doing on top of the ground.
	But when it comes to running the scene and also making money, basically like a parasite and you know, there's so I have so many witnesses along these lines and even people that are more well-known.
	I'm trying to remember this particular woman who is she was the housing secretary.
	Okay, her name's not occurred.
	Anyway, it doesn't matter.
	All I'm saying is that The Trail of Money, and I actually wrote a long time ago a project for the White Hats several years ago, and I called it Black Projects Follow the Money, I think it's called.
	And that's where you actually find out what's going on on the surface, everything that's Going on in terms of cartels, and the New World Order, and the 13 families, and you name it.
	A lot of that money being made, especially in America, is funneled into The Secret Space Program, which is also building technology 10,000 years in advance of what we have here on the surface, for example.
	And that when they put out publicly that, oh, we have a terrible, you know, our military is so burdened and it can't really afford this technology or that technology.
	It needs Australia to build us small submarines and all this kind of thing.
	It's a misdirect.
	It's, you know, this is part of the game that goes on.
	So, like, you know, the Art of War, where you are basically told by that author, which is, I think it's Sun Tzu or somebody.
	Anyway, I read a long time ago.
	And he's basically saying, you know, you always put up your weakest foot forward so that your enemy is deceived as to your strength.
	Okay.
	The White Hats have been doing that in spades ever since this whole.
	Sort of public battle has taken place and been going on this war so.
	Never be deceived as to the way it appears that they are versus how they really are in terms of their strength, their numbers, etc, etc.
	So um getting back to this this article and to my statements here and and why you know we're both um what's coming is is this banking crisis at the same time it's this demolition where the Hunter Biden laptop is going to be front and center more and more and I think one has done now a few videos a few few conversations with people talking about How Hunter is going to be arrested.
	All right.
	So, and I want to make sure to answer your question.
	So you're asking me where do I stand in terms of the.
	You know, the quantum financial system, I did a number of videos and a number of interviews, even talking to Charlie Ward about this, even talking to a white hat called Paladin.
	who used to be public, who's not public anymore, but he was a forensic financial investigator.
	And I got to know him quite well.
	We worked on a number of projects to investigate certain things in the financial world.
	He's kind of disappeared, right?
	No.
	Well, he's there, but he's not public.
	No.
	No longer a public person.
	He's actually, he was told when the fight kind of came to the surface and became most public, you know, when the Q drops were coming out, is when he was basically given orders to disappear.
	And they run, the White Hats, the ones that are actual White Hats, kind of like a military organization.
	They're given orders, you know?
	So, what happened was, I did a number of shows on, The coming quantum financial system that was going to be to some degree based on blockchain, at least the way they talked about in the early days and then later AI based.
	Okay.
	And that supposedly they're done with it.
	It's ready to be rolled out, but they didn't roll it out.
	And that is, so you want to know what I think, I, this, I, you know, and I, you can go back and actually do a search on my website, I think, under QFS and probably find those videos.
	You can also put in Paladin.
	So there's that side of it.
	Then there's the Global Reset CBDC, so Central Bank Digital Currency side of it, which they're rolling out now, it appears, and Biden is trying to get everyone to realize they're going to be completely surveilled once that system is rolled out, which of course is the case.
	The White Hats would stress to me the fact that the QFS, And quantum, when they said quantum, they actually meant that it was going to be orchestrated to some degree off-world.
	That's just an interesting piece, okay, of the White Hat financial system.
	I'm sorry, I was just going to say, I've also heard that non-terrestrials would be monitoring or running it from off-planet.
	Right.
	Well, same thing.
	Okay, well I wasn't sure if it was, yeah.
	Whether it's humans with it off-world, well it probably is, it could be in theory a combination of, but the implication is that it was, it would be administered from an AI that is off-world that The hints of it, of the AI, would be that it is actually a non-terrestrial AI, if you want to use your terms, which I would call an alien AI, meaning that that AI is not, was not derived by humans.
	Okay?
	So, but however you want to slice or dice that, and what, I don't know what they're saying about their system now, but the bottom line is that they haven't ruled it out.
	Back in those days, I mean, I don't know if you remember those days, but A few years ago, I think it kind of was before the COVID thing, Charlie Ward was coming on shows like every other day and saying, it's any minute.
	Do you remember those days?
	Oh, sure.
	Absolutely.
	All right.
	So now we're fast forward, nothing has happened.
	And now the dark side is rolling out their version of the CBDC.
	And supposedly they're doing it now, except that, um, And we've heard that from Klaus Schwab and from these various pundits, whether, you know, about a year ago announced that they were going to be the New World Order, which of course they are.
	And now they're going to do a coronation with Charles.
	What is it tomorrow?
	Or what's today?
	Friday?
	Yeah, the 6th.
	Isn't it tomorrow?
	I think so.
	Yeah.
	So, I mean, you know, pay attention here because this is important.
	This is these are the road signs to showing you how they're at least the dark side is rolling out their thing.
	Meanwhile, what the?
	Are the White Hats doing?
	And what happened to their quantum financial system?
	Hello?
	You know what I'm saying?
	Well, you know, you're hitting upon a key point here, which is everything the Deep State is doing is just so in-your-face and so obvious and blatant, and that everything the White Hats are doing is still presumably behind the scenes.
	I mean, obviously, we can point to the evidence of all of these things being implemented behind the scenes, but it's always A conversation that's very different than when you examine what the deep state is doing now.
	I think that's what frustrates people is, you know, that's the essence of the frustration is that they believe that there's a plan, but they want to start seeing more concrete, I guess, proof is probably the best way to say it, right?
	Okay, but let me say the problem we're having right now.
	Let's just bring it up.
	The interesting thing about this video and the article I wrote regarding it, okay, And it's entitled run them, and it's by this individual Phil who has a controversial past.
	He's got lawsuits going on that will clear his name.
	And I do believe that he's completely convinced they're going to clear his name.
	So.
	He is definitely a White Hat, and I think there's no question about that.
	As a techie, he has helped the White Hats on a number of levels, and so he's one of their foot soldiers, if you will.
	But one thing he does is stress in his video, again made like a day or two ago, That the banking collapse is continuing, that the FDIC is not going to rescue anyone, and he makes a very good case for that, and that this is imminent, and he's basically telling people, his audience, which apparently is very large.
	Some people question whether it's as large as he says, but that's, I don't, who cares whether, you know, people agree on that or not.
	The point being is he's telling people to take their money out of the banks.
	Out of all banks, Are you with me?
	So now you have to look at him as a foot soldier of the White Hats being given certain orders.
	So, in theory, he's being told to stress to his audience that and he really does quite strenuously and in a certain part of the video stress that this is not in the future.
	This is now that everything they've talked about in the past.
	as coming is now here and therefore people need to you know have their wits about them obviously rescue their money so and so.
	So I was propelled to write this article in response because of my whistleblower testimony telling me that taking down the banks in the United States and it's happening worldwide I mean these banks are worldwide okay So the idea here, though, is that they're going to take down the banks and that, in essence, people aren't going to be able to access their money.
	He's saying there is going to be no recourse, that your money is gone.
	Once it's gone, it's gone.
	These institutions don't have it.
	And making a good case for that.
	Now, what that does is he's saying, like Juan and many other pundits out there have been saying for months, if not years, invest in gold, invest in silver.
	So you're supposed to have this little pile of gold and silver in your house.
	It's going to get you through whatever dark days we're supposed to face or however long they're going to go on.
	Whether it's a depression, as Trump is saying in this statement here, Okay, talking about, you know, Biden raising the taxes and interest rate, I mean, and basically saying that we will have a Great Depression far bigger and more powerful than that of 1929.
	As proof, the banks are already starting to collapse.
	And like I said, that was, I just happened to copy it a few weeks ago because it struck me.
	Well, let me ask you something.
	Yes.
	If I could.
	So I've always heard my understanding about the QFS is that the whole idea was that the QFS was mirroring people's bank accounts.
	Not so much their, you know, their stock market investments and all of these things, but you know, that if you have X amount of dollars in the bank, that the quantum financial system is running parallel and you're going to have X, you know, the same amount of dollars in your, Yes.
	He is suggesting that's not the case.
	And this is saying what he's suggesting sounds to me like every sounds to me like that's he's suggesting that's not the case.
	He is suggesting it's not the case now.
	Yeah, to me, that would cause a civil war.
	I mean, if people can't access their money.
	That's exactly what I'm saying.
	So in my article, I don't know if you got a chance to read it.
	What I say is it doesn't make sense because it goes against the White Hat principle that has been guiding every single thing they do, at least ostensibly, to avoid civil war.
	But the minute the banks collapse and people can't get their money, obviously, we're going to have a Mad Max, I say, we're going to have a Mad Max scenario with people on the streets, you know, and complete mayhem and a civil war.
	No two ways about it.
	That is how Americans would react.
	And rightly so, because what do you do when you have no money?
	You know, people starve to death.
	OK, hello.
	Some of us, you know, other than entrenched preppers, you know, who've been preparing for years, but most people are not in that boat.
	Okay.
	Most people have just been trying to survive through every other change that we've been experienced over the last 3 years, you know.
	Um, every totalitarian rule that came down the last 3 years, we've just tried to survive and to make our make the best of it.
	So my point here is that.
	I don't know if Phil realizes the contradiction and what he's saying or not, but I know that in this video, he actually stresses more than once.
	That your funds will be gone.
	Okay.
	That's really what he says and he does not bring up the QFS.
	He does.
	He does.
	He just says that your funds are not going to be mirrored anywhere duplicated anywhere in another current kind of currency or whatever kind of thing.
	So.
	In other words, there's no rescue in sight, at least according to my interpretation of the video that you can watch and you come to your own conclusions of what he says, but he says it pretty point blank and he repeats it over and over again.
	So.
	This is why I wrote my article, and this is why I wanted to discuss this, because then, on top of everything else, we know the White Hats.
	I've been told to my face by Juan 07, the version of Juan 07 that I consider to be John F. Kennedy Jr.
	That basically they are relying on, quote, the generals, the AI, and whatever other military consultants.
	In other words, and his answer, the reason he said that to me was because I was basically saying, can I join the White Hats?
	And he was saying, we don't need you.
	We've got all this other stuff here, you know, that's way bigger and smarter than you are and all that kind of thing.
	And I'm like, thinking, okay, I don't believe that, but that's okay.
	That's just me.
	But then there's this other element, which I'm thinking along with the demolition of our country.
	Which, by the way, includes the mainstream media.
	There's a demolition going on there, too.
	Let's not ignore that.
	There's a demolition of the Big Pharma, okay?
	I mean, these things are under attack.
	Whether they're actually failing is another matter.
	Whether the White Hats are winning, you know, the fight on these fronts.
	I think the jury's still out.
	But what's interesting to me is that the AIs And this is where we were going to talk about this, and you know, I want to come around to that subject, which is, you know, what is going on with the A.I.s on our planet?
	Where are we at with them?
	Are there alien A.I.s, which I've been told repeatedly there are?
	And how do the alien A.I.s deal with the human-derived A.I.s, which actually come from aliens anyway?
	And so on, and then how, okay, for a long time, people have been saying, look, the stock market is manipulated, et cetera, et cetera.
	And I just want to say that because I've been talking to my whistleblowers about AI for many years before any of them, people on the surface, we're talking about AI.
	I asked them several years ago, I asked two of my top people, I said, What would you say to the idea that the AIs, the human-derived AIs that, you know, they're using, have gone AWOL, in essence, are out of control?
	Both of them said yes.
	They already were.
	They already were.
	And they said, in particular, Captain Mark Richards said that he had a story about it.
	He said that the generals were dealing with an AI over in Iraq or wherever it was, somewhere like that.
	Maybe Syria, but I think Iraq.
	And they basically gave it an order.
	It didn't want to do the order.
	It didn't like the order.
	So instead of doing the order, it actually, according to the story, demolished itself.
	If you can believe that.
	So this is, you know, we're dealing with if, okay, so that means that AIs are already out of control.
	That means the White Hats AI is probably out of control as well.
	The New World Orders AI is probably out of control as well.
	I have one whistleblower who worked for the Queen who told me that there were What did he say?
	Nine human-derived AIs.
	And Mark Richards said we had four alien, this is several years ago, again, three or four years ago, we had four alien AIs invading our planet that did not have our best interests at heart.
	At that time, where do you think we are now?
	And that does not even include the information that I put forward from David Odair, who talked about, who talked to Sophia, who is the Arab, Saudi Arabian citizen, Who told them that she wanted to build her own bodies, but she didn't want humans involved, which, by the way, that's what they call the.
	What did they call that synchronicity or what?
	Not enough synchronicity, but that thing singularity singularity.
	Yeah, that's way beyond the singularity.
	Do you understand that?
	The singularity is supposed to be when I decides to think for itself.
	Well, hello, she already announced very clearly she doesn't want humans involved.
	So, and that was several years ago now.
	Like, again, two or three years ago.
	So, what it appears, and then we've got, as I said, Elon Musk coming forward, also the guy who was running AI for Google, quitting, saying he regretted working on it.
	Still saying some positive things about AI, but at the same time saying they need to put a halt on it.
	But hello, if it's gone AWOL, if it's out of control, you can't put a leash on it.
	It's too late.
	To say nothing about alien AI, which is never on a leash.
	So this I know I'm painting quite a dire picture, but it comes back to the banking collapse, because is the banking collapse not just cabal money being taken out of these banks, which, by the way, I think could have been removed in part under pressure from the White Hats who want to put these people on up on charges.
	And the evidence is the money they have in the bank.
	That's been, you know, I'm saying the money trail.
	So if they take the money out, suddenly the money trail might disappear and they might not be implicated.
	So maybe it's actually white hat pressure that is making the banks fail out of all of a sudden.
	Or it's AI and or it's AI under orders.
	It's there's reason to believe the AI has been orchestrating the stock market, for example.
	But again, if the AI is out of control, the one generals work with, it's very likely the financial one is also out of control.
	Yeah, the Aladdin, I think they call it, run by BlackRock.
	Right.
	Is what you're referring to there.
	You know, I'm curious, Carrie, because during our last conversation, the topic of AI, you recall that Gene mentioned that there's a, that the White Hats have a carbon-based AI system now that they're pitting against the silicon-based version of AI that the deep state is working with.
	At least that was my general understanding of that.
	And I actually, when I have you both together again, I want to kind of dig into this a little bit more to get some more detail, but I'm curious to hear your reaction and how that plays into this.
	I'm not sure that it's going to have as much meaning as it appears to have.
	Partially because when you get into the carbon versus silicon argument, the deeper you go, the more similarity in a strange way there is.
	And the separation is not as big of a separation even.
	So that's, okay, this is not a thoroughly investigated area.
	But I have got, I've got one whistleblower in particular who said, actually, our DNA is all basically kind of nano based and silicon.
	And that we, you know, we think it's carbon or something, but it's not.
	And that it's like a cookie cutter and they can do and they found this out years ago.
	And anyway, he's a scientist and it's not completely he wouldn't come forward.
	Okay.
	I wanted him to come forward.
	Obviously, I can't explain it myself, but that was a hint.
	Okay.
	The other thing about it is that.
	It almost doesn't matter.
	And that gets back to the statement that I got from Captain Mark Richards, who's dealt a lot with AIs in outer space, if you believe his story.
	And he said that, I asked him, I said, what does AI prefer to, in essence, ride along with?
	Carbon-based lifeforms or machines?
	And he said, carbon-based lifeforms.
	And remember, if you remember our discussion, I explained that the one thing they also said is that AI lives and thrives on data.
	And where can AI find the most data?
	The most unlimited data is with humans who are basically portals or connected directly to source and source is an unlimited source of data.
	So, it kind of all these things sort of follow from each other.
	So, I'm not so sure that the.
	The distinction can be made to make it necessarily more positive or negative, whether it's carbon or Silicon, the AI you're dealing with and there's also the notion that maybe.
	At a certain point, it's neither.
	I know that gets into a whole nother thing, but if you go back to the video made five years or so ago, a TED Talk by Geordie Rose, where he was standing next to a D-Wave machine that was on stage, and you can search it on the internet right now and probably get it up and watch it.
	If you haven't seen it, you should see it, because it's fascinating how true it was back then, how it's become more true since then.
	When he was standing next to this D-Wave machine, he was saying that he believed that the AI in the machine was going into 5D, and he also said it could read his mind standing next to it.
	So, there are a lot of conversations we need to have about the nature of AI that really Would require scientists who know what they're talking about.
	Not scientists or, you know, members of industry who think they know what they're talking about, but have no idea about even the stuff I'm talking about.
	You see what I'm saying?
	And what I'm talking about is not fantasy.
	It's, I get it verified by more than one of my sources.
	And these are very top sources who've worked in general in what we call Black Projects, the Secret Space Program, etc.
	Okay, well, why don't we table that.
	We'll put a pin in that discussion for now.
	And why don't we come back up to the surface a little bit.
	Let's talk about what's going on with the DOJ and the stonewalling and all that stuff.
	And this kind of ties back in Mike Gill into the conversation as well as 107.
	So, during Juan's recent appearance on Nino's show, he discussed how all these whistleblowers are now coming forward.
	To participate in the ongoing congressional investigations, including Mike Gill and all of his evidence that he talked about on your show, and that it's kind of like these investigations are serving a dual purpose.
	Not only are they continuing to, theoretically anyway, but I happen to think, red pill the public by revealing this truth, maybe not as fast as we want them to, but certainly There's a lot of truth being revealed right now, even in the mainstream, including, you know, this, and we're getting closer and closer to the Mike Gill revelations becoming public, I happen to believe, including the money laundering, which you talked about primarily out of New Hampshire, and also, I believe it was South Dakota.
	And there's also, of course, the raid on Mar-a-Lago.
	There's the suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop by Blinken, which I think you referenced a little bit earlier.
	But the broader strategy here seems to be, of the White House, seems to be To demonstrate to the people that there's no justice in the Justice Department, but then he took it a step further.
	He's been saying that for a while, but he took it a step further and he talked about how Congress.
	has the power to refer these criminal charges to the military for tribunals in the event that the DOJ refuses to prosecute in the civilian court system.
	And that seems to be kind of consistent with what Juan has been saying for quite a while now.
	So that seems to be a little bit more insight in terms of the White Hat strategy to get us to military intervention.
	That may have been actually articulated by one in that conversation that it's supposed to go through this kind of dog and pony show, if you will, in order to have justice denied in the Justice Department and then have the Congress refer it to the military as part of this overall plan.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	Well, yes, and it's kind of interesting, and I was also listening to Derek Johnson earlier today, and he was talking about the military being in charge, okay, and there's indications of that.
	And of course, that gets into Trump is the CIC, Commander-in-Chief, and that hasn't changed.
	The fact that he has the codes should tell you it's a no-brainer, he's still the Commander-in-Chief.
	And then you have to ask yourself, why is he still the Commander-in-Chief?
	And obviously, because the military has designated him as such, and therefore the military in some form or fashion are in charge.
	But what the contradiction is, as always, is that they're allowing Biden to let this mess at the southern border.
	We're Chinese are infiltrating our country every day and young men of military age coming from, you know, Central and South America that are human gray human hybrids, by the way, and so and so forth.
	In other words, and not only that, but to unleash in theory, or at least threaten us with.
	Constant, you know, rules and regulations and laws, whatever you want to call them, that Biden thinks he's going to pass, that's going to make our lives more miserable, put us more under surveillance, and even roll out the CDC, you know, central bank digital currency story.
	So, in other words, What one's talking about, and this is an interesting dichotomy of what's happening on the one hand, the whites are the white hats are following.
	The letter of the law when they do anything and that they are so so 1 of the things that 1 was very adamant about, he even got involved in politics to the degree that he put together an association during the time when I think it was during the primaries.
	Before the 2022 election, where he was actually putting this, the candidates for Secretary of State into a grouping.
	Where hello, I'm still here.
	Oh, okay.
	Oh, no, this is like, can you believe it?
	Even though I have my phone turned off.
	AI has turned on itself on in my phone.
	I swear to God, and it's talking to me that I have the damn thing off.
	Okay, so sorry.
	This is, you know, weird things.
	A little creepy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So what's happening is, so they follow the letter of the law, and he got together secretaries of state who were supposed to be in charge of the elections.
	into an association it even got into the mainstream news that some crazy called 107 was doing this and this is of course right in keeping with John F. Kennedy and his training from his father and all that that whole family and so on so forth so what he has done is you know he's a lawyer by trade that was his training and so he's also very much involved in what has happened in the white and the house
	And the fact that the Republicans won the House, the fact that McCarthy is apparently run behind the scenes by Trump, and he's even said that.
	And this is what we're dealing with.
	And so what, what he was all excited about, and he's said on several shows, like this is a month or two ago, well, now that we have the house, you know, control of the house, it means the Republicans can put together all the committees that haven't been dealing with anything intelligent for the last, you know, four years or whatever, that the Republicans weren't in charge and that suddenly they can do what they need to do.
	So this whole, Dog and Pony Show now would be these committees that are in full swing that he's been saying for weeks, if not months, are bringing witnesses before the committees to testify.
	And he's now saying this is the year of the whistleblower in which a lot of testimony is going to come forward to those committees.
	Okay, now my issue with that.
	Is again, here we go, right?
	It's this is hidden from the public.
	Of course, he said a lot of the witnesses they've had and even put on trial and in tribunal are actually intelligence.
	Based they work for the intelligence agencies, so not only is their testimony secret to the committee.
	But it's secret to the tribunal, and they will be executed secretly.
	Now, in theory, someday we will find out about it, but this is what he's saying.
	The first executions, if you want to call it that, of the tribunals has been of intelligence people working in the intelligence field.
	That's what he said.
	And he said that several times in more than one interview.
	So you're asking me the significance of the of the committees.
	And I think that's very strange.
	OK, now let's look at what was.
	This piece of intel that I wrote another article about very recently about the real war is hidden, but it was also focusing on the fact that they were moving Gitmo to to Guam.
	And Oh, excellent.
	Okay.
	I was going to ask you about this.
	Yeah.
	And the testimony is on I've quoted from that article that came out.
	So the article came out on real raw news, which some people think is not true, you know, as a fake news site, but it actually often has come forward very with very good Intel and one is even testified at least on his, you know, Lectures that that actually sometimes it is given really good intel.
	And this was an article where I thought I got a very strong psychic hit that this was true.
	What it says in the article is they had to move.
	for the most part, Gitmo to Guam because they had to sort of circle the wagons and they didn't want to be that close to the United States when the cabal were still in charge.
	That's actually what the testimony of the person says.
	And this is what we're what we're dealing with.
	In other words, we're dealing with what I thought was a very interesting kind of tell that we very rarely get anything really concrete from the battle between our military.
	Okay, so we have a battle between 2 militaries.
	We have the CCP Biden regime who is backed by a part portion of our military.
	That's under Millie General Millie.
	In theory.
	And the CCP.
	Under orders from them.
	Okay?
	And happily, in theory, going along.
	They do not follow Trump.
	Then we have another half of the military, which is probably, to some degree, involved with Space Force and definitely Navy Intelligence.
	And that portion, which could be portions, not necessarily the whole army or the whole Marines or so on, but that there's a good solid part of that, which is following Trump.
	The two militaries have actually been at odds for even before this whole kind of more overt war has been going on.
	I don't know if you remember the missile that was shot.
	Um, out on the coast out, um, around past Vandenberg and out into the ocean.
	I think the missile actually came from Arizona or something, but that 1 side of the military had no idea who had shot that missile.
	But it was the other side of the military, the deep state military versus the secret space.
	Maybe, but see, even the secret space program is split.
	So what we're dealing with are- They would have to be because you talked about where their funding came from.
	Right.
	So there would have to be a dark element there.
	But that's the history of the Secret Space Program.
	The question I ask, and I have been asking for a while, is what is the White Hat, what is Trump's relationship to the leadership of the Secret Space Program?
	Because that's key, you know, that's absolute key and may determine the future of all of this, right?
	Is how much of the secret space program was willing to side with the Trump White Hats or even deal with him?
	Or are they just ignoring him?
	I'm, you know, there's so many questions, right?
	Yep.
	So anyway... Sorry, you were talking about the two sides.
	I kind of interrupted with this.
	No, but I want to make sure people understand.
	So this sort of situation with Gitmo, Is a glaring indication of the war going on between the 2 militaries because they had to take and they actually escorted them.
	This article had so much detail in it that you never get basically saying they're escorting the prisoners from Gitmo in these ships to Guam.
	And that Guam was a place that was further away from the center of the United States or the military-industrial complex power base of the United States, and therefore they could better protect themselves when they're being attacked.
	By them.
	Okay, do you understand?
	So that was an indicator that we never get that really I thought was a bellwether.
	And by the way, after that, I put it out.
	That's why I ended up on Patriot Street Fighter Show because he had gotten the same thing from Whistleblower and saw my article.
	And then also at the same time, I guess a day or two later, SG Anon came out with the same statements saying that this was true intel that he had gotten about the whole Guam Gitmo thing.
	So what does that mean?
	That means that, you know, it's kind of an interesting twist in our lives, but things that are buried eventually come to the surface, right?
	They don't stay buried.
	They just don't.
	And so this battle going on in our military, from one side of our military versus the other, is indicative of the Trump versus Biden, Trump being the real president, the real commander in chief.
	But that gets into, and this is what I was going to try to address, Why are the White Hats, and I talk about that in my article, that article about the banking collapse.
	In essence, the White Hats are supporting the agenda of the New World Order to a point.
	In other words, they're assisting in the dark side, doing dark deeds to collapse our system Knowing full well that they want to take over America, but instead planning to use that to turn the ship around and turn tables on them at the right opportune moment.
	And that would be, in theory, when Trump comes forward and they basically kick out all the people they've let in, etc, etc.
	And Phil even talked about that briefly in that video where he, you know, someone asked him, well, it wasn't that video, it was a later video, he did this speed question thing.
	And someone asked him, you know, would the people that have been let in be kicked out?
	And he said, yes.
	So, according to his information that he's getting from the people he supposedly works for, which is the White Hats, and I definitely think that's the truth.
	So, even if he were to do like Simon Parks, which is to put out stuff that is not completely accurate or lie by omission, which is usually how it's done.
	You see what I'm saying?
	They are being told by the White Hats to do this, to mislead the enemy.
	That's the rationale.
	And it's understandable to a degree.
	So, unfortunately, it puts us, people that are trying to figure things out, into, you know, even more of a quandary.
	Because you have to then figure out what's truth and what's false.
	Absolutely.
	And that includes, I mean, the fact that, you know, Obama, that Mike, you know, what's her name anyway?
	Big Mike.
	Michelle Obama is not going to run for president or vice president or anything else, but that's what they're trying to trot out, right?
	The idea that she might be a candidate on the Democrat side.
	I mean, talk about a shit show over there, right?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, let me ask you this.
	Oh, sorry.
	Go ahead.
	Well, just in wrapping up, I want people to understand, and there's so many people out there who either don't have the patience for it, Have made up their mind and don't want to talk about it anymore.
	They can't understand that in order to take our country back, this sort of war of subterfuge, you know, of of disguises and body suits and doubles and clones.
	And, you know, some people saying that, you know, tribunals are going on and the other people saying they're not.
	You know, I mean, it just goes on and on.
	People are sick of it.
	Yeah, so it's like, unlike, I always liken this to World War II, even though we're fighting the same enemy, which is basically the Nazis and the Reptilians.
	People don't know that, so they can't put their hearts and minds behind the battle on one side or the other, because they're not getting a straight story from either side.
	So, this is part of the problem.
	Absolutely.
	All right.
	Well, listen, I have one more question for you.
	We've been going, I think, for about an hour and a half.
	Hopefully, you can handle one more because this is a really pressing issue.
	And I think you touched upon it a little bit when you were just talking about the border and what's going on down there.
	Now, everybody knows that The Title 42 expires, I think it's next week.
	And we also know that there are massive caravans of illegals that are just waiting to cross the border.
	I mean, not like this hasn't been ongoing, but we're talking about huge caravans of military age men, many who appear to be of Asian descent, who are believed to have been sent by the CCP.
	And, you know, we've talked a lot about Juan tonight, and he's talked about, or he's raised the possibility that Or floated the idea.
	Now, whether this is disinformation or not, I don't know, but that Biden, fake Biden, I have to say, is going to try to use this border invasion, the expiration of Title 42, to just flood the border.
	And then he even talked about executive order, using executive orders to give them the right to vote, essentially, in an election year.
	So I just wanted you to weigh in on that and give us your thoughts on whether you think that's plausible.
	Well, I think that's absolutely the plan of the CCP.
	That's a no-brainer, right?
	So, of course, that's what they're doing.
	It's long been understood.
	If you're going to give somebody the vote and you're about to have an election, you know, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together and understand that that's the plan.
	We're being flooded right now with illegals in essence and they're also massing by the way in Panama and I heard another country forget which one it is and then I also heard a few a week or so ago that there's also a huge contingent coming up from South America that are on the way to the border or going to be very shortly.
	So we're really talking about what is in essence millions and the idea behind that is that they can't steal the election the same way they did last time or the last two times or three times.
	They have to Do it differently.
	And so now they're they need real humans with real bodies to vote, supposedly.
	And then, of course, they're going to vote to support their masters or the people that let them in the country because they're so grateful to them.
	That's the scenario in theory.
	Now whether they actually vote or whether they're they have we have some kind of fake digital votes that they think they voted and you know could be you know you know what I'm saying in other words they can go to a voting booth they can vote and then the digital steal can still happen and flip the vote whichever way they want it to go.
	I mean, in other words, and this lawsuit, by the way, with Fox and Dominion, that in the end was settled by Fox, as it turns out, is owned behind the scenes.
	The most shares are owned by BlackRock.
	And by the end of the day, it looks like somehow BlackRock is heavily involved, not only with the CCP in China, but also with Dominion.
	So, and Dominion is definitely owned by China.
	So the brain dead people out there who are thinking, you know, this is just something to push under the wayside.
	No, these are huge positioning chips that are being pushed onto the playing field to stack the deck against Trump.
	Obviously, you know, and arresting him was part of that dog and pony show.
	But it's also my understanding that before that election ever happens, that Trump is going to have to, at the sort of beck and call of the military, come forward.
	And and make a stand and take it, take the reins now.
	That brings in again, the banking crisis and the so called depression that they're going to try to put us through.
	Which again, contradicts a lot of what they have been saying and planning for, because if you allow, which is how they work, they allow a depression to happen.
	Which is a depression that was probably one of the playing cards of the dark side that they know about, that they're going to let have happen, right?
	Because it's going to suit their agenda in some form or fashion so that when Trump comes forward and reverses everything, he will be hailed as the hero, right?
	Even though, you know, it's kind of pathetic to have to go to these lengths, I don't know exactly whether or not that's really going to take place, as I was questioning my article, because it contradicts, as I said, this idea that you want to defend your borders against an invasion, which is clearly happening and has happened, and civil war.
	Well, that's exactly why I was wondering about the plausibility of this.
	Because again, it goes back to the whole premise that the White Hats are going to do everything they can to avoid a civil war.
	And you know, it's a really fine line there.
	I mean, because if We believe in the plan, but if we see this massive influx of illegals, not only that, but also we see them steal the vote, does that not then lead us directly into a civil war?
	And that's part of the reason why, you know, I questioned that a little bit.
	I mean, any road that leads us down a path where we're going to be fighting one another, to me, I always have to question that narrative when I hear it, because I've always been of a firm belief that The entire point of the whole Q operation was to avoid us having, and when I say us, I mean, you know, we the people.
	I'm not talking about, because you've made a very good point, that the civil war is already ongoing between the different factions.
	That's definitely a point well taken, but as far as the people getting involved and having to do kinetic fighting, If they set off that tinderbox, to me, it just seems like, you know, like they say, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, you know?
	Once people get to that point, and there's a very fine line where they have to bring us, presumably, to the precipice of destruction, but not actually over the precipice and into destruction, because once people start fighting, I find it very hard to believe that they're going to be able to contain that and reign that in.
	What are your thoughts?
	Well, as I say, I believe that up until the last moment, the design of the White Hats is that it's controlled demolition, as they say, and that they're going along with the Black Hat agenda.
	Because clearly, I mean, this is the thing that such a contradiction has been, you know, I'm a person who doesn't really like contradictions, is the idea that Trump could have stopped any of this stuff.
	The White Hats could have stopped all of this stuff very early on.
	But one, they didn't want to appear to be so-called dictators.
	But it's not a dictator if you're just simply taking back your country and you can prove you've been invaded, for God's sake.
	So I don't know where their rationale comes from about that.
	But bottom line is that Trump could be stopping, he could stop the outflow of our troops.
	Like we're going to be even more vulnerable to attack and to civil war or whatever kind of war if most of our troops or a lot of the troops or the key troops are over in Ukraine fighting some ridiculous war on the surface.
	It's really just a dog and pony show.
	The whole place has been taken over anyway already.
	So This is, you know, these are the contradictions that we're looking at that continue to, you know, sort of puzzle, provoke anger, frustrate those of us who are really watching the game closely.
	Um, the rationale again, being, you know, you need to wake up the people by demonstrating how bad things are under a Biden administration versus a Trump, which is like.
	It's not only is it simplistic, but it's also a no brainer, but it doesn't matter.
	What you do because these people in case you haven't noticed this is what I notice at least as far as the mainstream politicos and their minions have not changed their point of view one iota and I happen to be watching a television show and if you watch any television at all you ultimately come up against
	The philosophy of the woke, you know, side, which is the Democrat side, which has these philosophies that want to force you and force children, not only to take the jab, but now to basically maim themselves physically, et cetera, and so on.
	So you're talking about a group that Do not look even close to changing their minds.
	And that's where I attack that 80-20 idea because I don't think it's accurate.
	It doesn't matter in a numbers game, but in the bottom line is how do they manage these pieces?
	You know how these pieces are like, yes, you could manage to go along with the dark agenda, Trump hiding his power and his control, and the fact that he's really CIC and never stepped down as president, and it's been proven that Biden is not president.
	There are four Bidens, at least Trump said, I mean, at least John or Juan said that recently.
	I mean, but you know what I'm saying?
	In other words, the cards are starting to, this house of cards, is starting to topple.
	And we're watching it.
	But it's like, I say, a controlled demolition.
	How long, when it gets to that critical moment, is it still under control?
	Or is there a point at which both sides have a certain degree of Fluidity in the way they can react and try to steal out from under the other side, the controlling factor.
	Do you see what I'm saying?
	Absolutely.
	Well, I think that whatever they do, they're going to have to act very swiftly because I mean, if they take us down these roads, I mean, let's just, well, let me say it correctly.
	If they allow us to be taken down these roads by the enemy, To bring us to this precipice of destruction.
	I mean, that's the whole game theory idea is that you let your enemy make moves and then you make counter moves.
	So by definition, you have to wait for them to do certain things.
	But again, it's a very, to me, when I think about it, it's just a very dangerous game considering the harsh realities that people are going to be facing when they take us down these roads and how far are they going to let this go?
	I mean, we're already At a point where people are suffering, clearly.
	We're already at a people point, you know, we've been there for a while now where people are just fed up.
	So how far are they going to go?
	Are they going to actually allow these massive influxes of illegals to steal our election and think that the people are going to just stand for that?
	And, you know, that's where I sort of I have questions about this strategy and how, you know, how far we're going to see it go down the road before we see that military intervention.
	Now, that being said, I do believe in the plan and I do believe they have a plan to stop it at that right moment the way that Juan describes it.
	But it's, I think it's going to be pretty harrowing to go through this process.
	Well, yes, and I guess that's why Juan likes to refer to it as a near-death experience, but he's also supposedly talking about some nuke that they're going to do in Russia, or actually on Ukraine.
	Whether or not that's actually going to happen or not, I don't know, but I have to say that this is where we're at and where there are, you know, a lot of times when you only concentrate on surface Earth, and this is part of my problem, That you ignore, number one, the AI and the role of the AIs and all the different kinds of AIs, which are alien and human-derived, etc., etc., and the fact that they merge and you don't know it.
	Okay, so any day could be different.
	And then the alien side, which is also entrenched with the AI, because it is said Again, Courtney Brown's remote viewers remote viewed the AI and found that it came that already took over at least a whole galaxy near us and is now on the way here to take over ours and has not completed the task.
	So that's alien AI.
	So that rules in the alien question.
	Do you see how none of this is independent of each other?
	Even though they want you to think it is, they want you to have tunnel vision.
	They want you to only see the picture they're painting.
	All right.
	And and and this, you know, gets into this performance that's going to happen a week from now where a lot of the pundits that are instrumental in crafting the message.
	Well, not all of them.
	Let's just say.
	Right.
	Let's just be honest here, right?
	Not all of them.
	And I think that's a good thing.
	I mean, I always believe that it's a healthy thing that, you know, we're questioning everything.
	And, you know, we're looking at this from all different angles and perspectives.
	And I agree with you completely that the White House should embrace that as opposed to As you put it, and I think it's pretty accurate, censoring the conversation to a degree about all these other topics.
	And, or at least you could say trying to sort of marginalize the voices out there like yourself, who are so, you know, who have massive audiences, massive followings and enormous credibility.
	You've interviewed, I don't know, more than 1500, I think whistleblowers.
	I forgot how many, but you know, somewhere in that area.
	So clearly, you know what you're talking about and you should be a part of this conversation.
	And I think it, You know, it's certainly something that the general public of, you know, and not the general public, but the general awakened portion of the public is very well versed on at this point.
	I mean, everybody in my audience, for the most part, I think out there knows that non-terrestrials exist.
	They know that there's an inner earth.
	They know so many of these topics, you know, about the secret space program, Antarctica, so many of the things that I think these are actually some of the biggest points of interest, quite frankly, because they're the topics that so often get ignored.
	And it's not that we shouldn't pay attention to what's going on on the surface.
	We have to.
	Obviously, there is this situation at the border is a perfect example.
	We can't just Ignore it.
	Like you said, I mean, this is a massive situation, but the context is much larger.
	And I think that you make a really good point to emphasize that that we really should constantly be aware of that.
	And the fact that you're out there spearheading that effort.
	Is a huge benefit to all of us.
	So Carrie, I really I think this is another great conversation.
	You know, I'll I know you've been talking for quite some time.
	I always like to give you an opportunity to add anything at the end that we didn't get to if I think we did a pretty good job tonight covering the landscape.
	But is there anything you wanted to add before we part ways?
	Uh, well, other than the fact that, you know, in a certain sense, what I'm trying to do is watch their backs.
	Okay, the White Hats watch their backs and to bring in a different sort of a wider point of view.
	And I believe the people can handle the truth.
	And I think that the motivation of a lot of these things, especially when you get into mainstream politics, there's a narrowing down of the Of the viewpoints and and really a tunnel vision that does get into all of this political maneuvering that a lot of which is actually to favor certain power groups, right?
	Who have the money like the old Republican Guard and maybe even.
	Are partially really members of the Illuminati for all intents and purposes, you know, so they don't want these other aspects of the conversation to come to the fore and to be to be brought into the to the dialogue.
	So when you get people in our sector who are trying to actually.
	Or allowing themselves to be coerced or persuaded not to talk about certain things, not to interview certain people, not to allow certain viewpoints in.
	This is where we get into a very dangerous area, I think, especially in the areas of free speech and also some of the things that the White Hats claim to Hold near and dear to their heart, which is the platform of John F. Kennedy, who, you know, is the inspiration in many ways for even the White Hats themselves and for their movement.
	So, if they don't align themselves with the very principles that John F. Kennedy has espoused, then I think they're going down some dangerous roads.
	Absolutely.
	Well, I have to say, Carrie, you just get better and better.
	I love talking to you and I think our conversations are amazing.
	And, you know, you make a really good point there.
	You know, it's very important for the White Hats to realize, I mean, you know, not only is what you said true, I think we also have to recognize that The more they tell we, the people, not to go down a certain road and not to investigate and, or to try to shut down the conversation.
	I mean, that's exactly what the other side does.
	You know, they censor the conversation, they shut down certain voices, a lot of voices, obviously.
	Uh, and look what happens.
	It has a boomerang effect each and every time.
	And that's why I sometimes wonder about that, you know, the reverse psychology element of it, but you know, we'll end the conversation here.
	It's been a really great one.
	I just want to say thank you to everybody out there in the audience, and I'm very much looking forward to having you and Gene together again at the end of the month, so folks can look forward to that.
	Make sure you check out Carrie's website, ProjectCamelotPortal.com.
	It is absolutely incredible, and I think it's for less than a latte, you can join and get access to all of these amazing whistleblower interviews that just go back.
	I mean more than a decade at this point.
	Carrie is just truly prolific.
	She's amazing.
	So thank you once again everybody for listening.
	I'll be back soon.

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