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March 27, 2023 - Project Camelot
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MIKE GILL : TEMPLATE OF CORRUPTION FOR ALL STATES: GODFATHER ON STEROIDS
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Hi everyone, I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
So I've got Mike Gill with me.
He is a former candidate for governor for New Hampshire and he is also a very successful businessman.
He has really been through a lot in the last few years because he has been drawing attention To what is in essence, what I would call the cabal and nefarious players in the state government of New Hampshire, but it also widens out to political candidates in the United States and in our government, individuals in our government, and possibly worldwide.
So this is a big story.
It's been reported in many places up to now.
Although I don't know how many actual interviews he's done, I certainly heard a few of them.
And I just want to give credit to Brendan.
Sorry, what's Brendan's last name?
Brendan Lee O'Connell.
Okay.
Brendan Lee O'Connell, because he's really helped you get the word out about your story.
So today we want to basically give you the floor.
We want you to describe what you've been through, why you've been through what you've been through.
And if you don't mind, I will stop you at times to ask you questions and so on.
I hope you don't mind.
No, absolutely.
Great.
Okay, so let's start off with you introducing yourself.
Well, again, my name is Mike Gill.
I originally went to school to be a priest and built the highest volume mortgage brokerage company in the country, the largest thoroughbred racing stable in the world.
So I was a successful businessman, father of five children, And a baseball and basketball coach.
That's pretty much what my life was.
And it was a full life.
But then I was given by 402 elderly victims of a Ponzi scheme.
From that Ponzi scheme, it opened the door to the banking department that allowed this to happen.
It also became to my attention that Bill Shaheen, The co-chair for Hillary Clinton runs for president.
Husband to Senator Jeanne Shaheen, it was his Ponzi scheme.
So when I went and investigated the banking department, the banking commissioner Peter Hildreth's own brothers were partners in the Ponzi scheme.
It reached to the banking department.
And then it was really behind that door of the banking department, how they blocked investigations From the Attorney General's office and Kelly Ayotte, who then became the Senator.
It was that door that opened to the Pandora Papers.
It was Bill Shaheen's money laundering network.
I called it 10 years ago, the Deep State's money laundering network.
People thought that was over the top.
Turned out to be not just the Deep State, but the largest money laundering network in the world.
Over hundreds of journalists around the world brought and investigated and they came to the state of New Hampshire with $932 billion of hidden assets and trust in LLCs.
So what people have to understand, it isn't New Hampshire.
It's the clearing house is New Hampshire.
They picked a small state.
Well protected, completely corrupted by Shaheen.
And they made it number one in opioid distribution, considered by Ground Zero, by the DEA.
And that Ground Zero got awarded after I, on camera, delivered evidence about the largest cartel in this country to the DEA.
It only got an 80,000 pound capacity tractor trailer full of fentanyl.
In the tons.
A world record.
Now, New Hampshire, through the Pandora Papers, is number one globally in money laundering.
Consider this.
The defense budget is $700 billion, and we've got $932 billion, which also means they know who the money belongs to.
They know the names.
Any investigation of those LLCs and dummy corporations would give us the names.
For instance, Silicon Valley Bank's largest asset goes back to the state of New Hampshire.
A New Hampshire corporation, a New Hampshire agent, it is part of the Pandora Papers.
It is corrupt politicians across this country.
It is the drug cartels that have flooded our banking system with their dark money.
It's that dark money that buys protection from politicians, but also from our intelligence agencies.
The average FBI agent makes $71,000 a year.
He's not acceptable to bribes?
We don't have corrupt cops?
What makes you think that there's a line between corrupt cops and corrupt FBI agents?
We have been sold out at the highest levels of this country.
I took that money laundering network.
I also worked with Project Veritas, James O'Keefe, Aaron Day, who's running for president.
They cut a deal with Chris Sununu, who I was running against as a governor.
I had an organization called State of Corruption.
This organization had hundreds of informants throughout the state, victims that I helped, but victims that wanted to help other victims.
So we became an intelligence organization.
O'Keefe brought his 20,000 libertarians along with Ben Swan and Aaron Day into New Hampshire to create a libertarian state.
Which on the surface is legal, but what you find out is they ran up against the candidates that were owned by Shaheen and the cartel.
Shaheen was part of the protection network, not only money laundering, but the protection of the money launderers.
And that protection, sole protection through law firms that controlled your courts, that controlled your AG's office, that your banking department became a laundering network.
And all these entities, by the way, have been on four separate $50 million settlement offers for me to go away.
Now, these settlement offers are signed.
They are the methodology of how you lose your state.
It is also the methodology of the laundering network and protection.
This protection is offered by the FBI.
They are the protectors.
The DEA are partners with these drug cartels.
Think about this.
The best way to explain it, are they vulnerable with 71,000 a year?
Yes.
It's the dark money.
See, they don't sell books, the FBI, at least not the foot soldiers.
They don't have lobbyists getting them wealthy.
They have the dark money of cartels and human traffickers paying them off.
That is the truth.
Our country is completely controlled by corruption.
It's the same dark money that gets these people elected.
These candidates sell their soul to this money.
Look at FDX.
Who were they supporting?
Candidates.
They were buying protection.
Four of the top billionaires associated with FDX got murdered by cartels within a matter of weeks in a disconnect.
These cartels have taken over banking systems.
In the state of New Hampshire, that same banking department, remember now, that banking department is on a $50 million settlement.
The banking commissioner previous is on a $50 million settlement.
The IRS is on the $50 million settlement.
So this reaches the federal government.
Can I slow you down a little bit?
When you say it's on the settlement, what does that mean exactly?
In the settlement, There's a secondary part of this where it has releases, that you will give them releases for any liability.
Those names of the releases include the IRS, the federal government, and you know why?
For extortion and targeting and money laundering.
You don't steal trillions without the IRS seeing it.
That's the level of corruption.
They are the ultimate money launderers.
When you consider that they watch $600 transfers from you, how do they miss trillions?
They're in on it.
And for instance, Senator Shaheen, right?
Who's married to Bill Shaheen.
What was she cited for?
Targeting with the IRS.
There's your IRS connection.
Again, Bill Shaheen, campaign manager, Hillary Clinton.
What's the bet that Clinton's money isn't in those Pandora Papers?
And along with Biden's.
Think about this.
Who is Hillary Clinton's most trusted ally but the Shaheen's?
Who is Bill Shaheen's trusted ally?
He only wanted to make Senator Shaheen a VP candidate.
Along with Hassan, the other New Hampshire senator, They are the guardians of this, a sentinel of this vault.
Think about this.
Hunter Biden's laptop, right?
And they're talking about bribes in 40 years with Biden.
Where do they put the money?
They can't put it on their tax returns.
It is in protective trust and LLCs.
That is the nature of Pandora Papers.
That is why it's so important.
And what people have to understand is that information, that investigation, is with Congress as we speak.
It is in the Ways and Means Committee.
Our problem is those congressmen are equally corrupt.
Who's to say they're not in the Pandora Papers?
I mean, it is, again, the methodology.
We have the corrupt look for themselves.
They are the investigators.
Okay, now I want to, again, I want to slow you down a little bit.
So there are a few questions here I have.
So one thing that I know is that supposedly because of the Republican taking, I think it's only one seat more in the House, right, that we have basically McCarthy Well, it's said to be under the control of Trump.
Now, whether that's actually true or not, I don't know, but that's what they say.
And then, because of that, there are committees that are being formed right now to do the investigations that haven't been done up to now.
Do you think that that's got any chance of success?
I have zero trust in all politicians, Republicans and Democrats.
The biggest lie is to have you think it's just Democrats.
Chris Sununu, the governor of New Hampshire, he is the key master of the Pandora Papers.
Along with James O'Keefe, they made a move, using my evidence, against Shaheen and took over the Pandora Papers.
Think about this.
Washington is controlled by blackmail and extortion.
When you live in the land of corruption, blackmail rules the day.
And what people have to understand is, you are who they blackmail with.
The people across this country is what they use to blackmail.
Now, my evidence went to the Department of Justice, U.S.
Attorney Lowen, the most powerful U.S.
attorney in this country at that time, not only met with me, and believe me, they don't meet with you.
President Trump said that meeting.
I gave him that evidence, and in that evidence was described by U.S.
Attorney Lowen himself, sent to Attorney General Sessions, along with the Washington FBI.
They had my evidence.
They had the cartel.
They had the money laundering network.
They had the $50 million settlement.
And they had videos on attempts of my life.
Once I refused their money, they tried to murder me three times in 13 days.
So in other words, they have this evidence.
Trump had this evidence.
Okay.
Okay, somebody's trying to open this door.
Hold on one second here.
Hello?
I don't know what's going on.
I'm staying in someone's house, so I don't really know what's up.
Okay.
Okay.
That's weird.
Anyway, so, well, the question I have, though, is, okay, you saw the judge, you gave them the evidence.
I saw the U.S.
attorney, U.S.
attorney.
Okay, the U.S.
attorney.
And what happens now?
I mean, do they have a chance to bring your evidence, you know, in?
And, you know, why isn't your evidence, let's say, on every front page newspaper in the country, including the New York Times?
I mean, if you've got it to the Attorney General, can the Attorney General act on it, or do you think they're not going to act on it?
They're told not to act on it.
Well, think about this.
You ready?
Trump loses the election.
What's the first thing that President Trump does?
He sends General Flynn and Sidney Powell to find me.
Now, those communications are in emails and text messages.
This is after the election.
Trump loses.
He wants to stay in office.
They come and see me.
Why?
Because of this evidence that I have.
They wanted to keep Trump in office by finding the money of the Deep State, by finding the Pandora Papers.
Okay, so what happened?
Did they find it or not?
Oh, this is what happened.
January 6th happened.
That's exactly what happened.
They were keeping him in office with my evidence.
And listen, those communications have been posted, has been on the internet, Think about this.
How is it that the ex-National Security Advisor is contacting me through emails and text messages if he doesn't want a timeline?
If he doesn't want to establish what... I signed a 15-page affidavit with Flynn and requested by Sidney Powell, who both were with the President those whole time.
Okay, so, but what happened with the evidence?
I'm not getting... General Flynn has this evidence.
That's what you should be asking General Flynn.
Are you trying to say that because of what happened on January 6th, they weren't able to bring the evidence forward?
Are they sitting on it for a reason?
Well, they're sitting on it.
We're going to have to ask them for the reason.
But they turned around and didn't put it in play because after January 6th, they lost that possibility of keeping Trump in office.
So are they sitting on this evidence?
Yes.
There's no question about the evidence.
It's documented.
There's no question that General Flynn has the evidence.
That's also documented completely.
So in other words, so the question should be to General Flynn, And even now to President Trump.
Trump just came out and said recently, right?
He said that about dismantling the deep state.
Yes.
He targets the intelligence agencies, the FBI.
Sure.
What did I target but the FBI and expose?
I've got a dozen videos of me delivering the evidence to the FBI, being blocked, being threatened.
And then he even goes on to say about the Inspector Generals.
Now, how about this?
I have the Inspector General of the Treasury, okay, Titka, on tape, on recording, and it is posted that they ran a cover-up for three and a half years with my evidence protecting the IRS.
The Treasury Inspector General's Office investigates corruption within the IRS.
It's part of our checks and balances.
TITCA ran an operation taking my evidence for over three years.
Tom Morley was the agent, calling it the worst IRS corruption they've ever seen in history.
But what they really did was they covered it up.
TITCA on the side was having me try To take a settlement.
They gave me four different case numbers to settle.
Wait, okay, so just to pause here.
So, this Titka guy, they're supposed to be using that evidence to expose the corruption.
Instead, they're trying to buy you off, in essence?
Yes, and expose the corruption with the IRS.
That's important.
The money laundering aspect of this.
Now, here's an act of God, and this also involves James O'Keefe and Aaron Day.
Yeah, and I want to get into that.
Okay, go ahead.
An operative for O'Keefe.
Once I got a sealed FedEx envelope with 22 envelopes inside from the IRS to an account name, ready?
Curtis Morley.
Remember the TITCA agent, Tom Morley?
Yeah.
All right.
So we get Curtis Morley, who, by the way, I never met, never spoke to.
And at the same time I get the envelope handed to me, Patrick Dillon from the IRS calls up and threatens me about taking a deal.
So I immediately... What does that mean?
OK, I'm sorry, you know, because for the lay person, what does that mean?
Calls you up and threatens you to take... Is he trying to make you take a deal or stop you from taking the deal?
Oh, no, no.
From having me take a deal.
They need me silent.
Silent.
They can't have you know that the IRS is the biggest money launderer in the country.
I mean, I don't think that surprises me.
I'm not sure about the rest of the country, but I think most people would consider, you know, if you've got evidence of this sort of thing, that's probably real.
I think that everyone feels that everyone's dirty from the bottom up at this point, especially when they're at the top.
But let's try to explain why it is that you're kind of sitting where you're sitting right now.
You're like, you've had some kind of, you used to be quite a wealthy man, right?
Let me just, let me finish one thought though.
All right, okay.
With this errand day, we called Tom Morley, the TITCA agent, explained to him we have this envelope full of letters from Curtis Morley.
I go, is Curtis your brother?
I can never speak to you again.
Oh, really?
Then he forgets to hang up the phone, and he calls the Treasury Inspector General of the United States, Tim Kampas.
And O'Keefe's operative, O'Day, records the call.
And we have the Treasury Inspector General of the United States committing treason, covering for the IRS.
So when Trump's saying we have to go after Treasury Inspector General, guess what?
Nobody in this world or universe has the evidence that would incriminate the Treasury Inspector General of the Treasury, but I do.
Conclusive, and think about this, U.S.
Attorney Lowen, you know what he requested first thing?
Those 22 sealed envelopes that went directly to Attorney General Sessions.
Do you know what also General Flynn asked for?
The same information and the same $50 million settlement.
Now listen, you want to know if you're right?
Nobody pays you $50 million for being wrong.
Sure.
And regarding about people knowing, while I was doing this, people didn't believe in corruption.
It's been really over these last few years, and then particularly, I'd say, The last 18 months that people are finally waking up, and the game was always for you to figure it out.
Here's the question, ready?
By the time you do, is it too late?
So when you say about the media, what makes you think the media isn't involved?
The board members that sit on the pharmaceutical boards sit on the media boards.
The media has been used to divide us.
Think about this.
When has the media ever been so divided as they are now?
I mean, CNN, Fox.
I mean, when has the truth not been somewhere in the middle?
What I'm telling you is well known through the media.
Okay, but let me, you know, because I want to help you and it's possible I can, because in sort of opening this can of worms in a certain way, it's kind of who you get to and how much traction you can get, right?
Right.
I'd say the battle lines is for me to go viral one time and for them to have to stop me every time.
They know exactly who I am and what I have.
But you are getting out there.
The question is, like, there are certain aspects of this.
There are certain people who could kind of like, you know, it's kind of like football or something, like, or a tag team.
You take your stuff and you bring it to somebody who can actually run with it, right?
And get it to the right people who can then put it before the American people.
That would seem to be more or less in very vague terms.
I know you also want to go before the courts, but the court is... I don't trust the courts.
You'll get no justice in the courts.
I happen to agree with you 100% there, but I'm just saying eventually Americans like to think they have a court system that is worthwhile.
But let's just say, because you've already gotten to the top, at least as far as I can see, you've gotten to Trump, right?
I've got to Trump.
I got to the Attorney General, Barr, and Sessions, the Department of Justice.
There is nobody within the law enforcement agencies, the highest levels in this country, doesn't know what I have in my evidence.
Exactly.
Anyone who wants to offer you $50 million to shut up, you know, is very suspect.
I mean, the whole, and it's a list of people, right?
As you said.
A long list, including Bill Shaleen.
Right.
Including the IRS and the Department of Revenue.
Think about this.
Everything entity that audits wants a release.
That is the laundering network.
It's the auditing network.
It's the accounts and balances.
Okay, but just between us, like, let's say in the best of all possible world, if you were able to get to the American people in the right way so that, you know, because yes, I'm sort of a fringe investigative journalist, but I have a growing audience out there.
And a lot of times when I interview somebody, it does go viral.
So somebody else will pick you up and you'll go on and on with this.
So, we're in a good place right now for you to make your case.
You know what I'm saying?
Yes.
All this evidence.
First of all, do you have copies of everything?
I do.
Okay.
In a safe place with, you know, some people say you need to put it with 12 different people.
You've heard that?
I had it with five people and they've got four of them.
Already?
Well, it's been a few years now.
I've been on the road for five years.
I thought I was gonna be away for 10 days.
This is, listen, these criminals have my children.
Five children.
You're kidding.
I mean, they are threatening them.
They have threatened their lives.
They're gonna mail my children's back, heads to me, one at a time back.
I'm not surprised.
I mean, this is a big, big network.
But nonetheless, I mean, in a certain sense, it's my understanding, you can contradict me if you like, that Trump has a vested interest in using your evidence to take down the deep state.
Otherwise, he's not going to really have as much evidence as he should, and that he could actually run with it.
Right?
It is.
It is my greatest hope.
My only questioning to President Trump, particularly if you hear this, do it now.
Don't wait.
You're hearing him turning around and saying, I'm going to dismantle once I'm in office.
First of all, we don't have two years.
And second of all, we don't trust elections at this point.
It's not getting any better.
I mean, President Trump has got to trust the American people.
The American people are our justice system, are our courts.
It is us.
We're the only good guys left.
Right, you need to be tried in the court of public opinion, and you need to get out there now.
Now, have you given the evidence to someone who could put it all over the internet, that kind of thing?
I am working with people like yourself, like Brendan, Lee, and several other podcasts that I've been doing frequently, almost daily.
I'm trying to collectively Target the American people through smaller entities to get to larger entities.
And it seems to be working.
We have traction.
We have momentum.
But again, it has to be in everybody's lips.
They have to turn around it.
For instance, what I would tell everybody is demand to know the names of the Pandora Papers.
Congress has this information.
That is a good place to start.
It is a roadmap to the corrupt.
And President Trump coming out and saying that the cartels are stealing the youth of this country.
It is true.
But it's time to name names.
See, this is what I do differently.
One, I'm not giving news.
We're making news.
I am the player.
I am the witness that had to become public.
I had to put the faces of cartel heads on message centers across highways.
I had to be bold.
I had to make news myself.
I'm not a journalist.
I'm a basketball coach who happened to own the largest volume mortgage brokerage firm in the country.
But But that is the war.
It is viral, and they have got to suppress me.
Okay, but let's, you know, let's just try to put some pressure on these people.
Now, Flynn, you gave the evidence to Flynn, right?
Yes.
Okay, and he's a military guy.
Well, wait a minute now.
Now, and remember now, Flynn sought me out.
Okay.
I didn't seek him out, so I'm just making a point.
But isn't that good?
Well, it's only good if he tells the American people.
Okay.
You see what I'm saying?
But he has it, so people can pressure him, who watch this show.
They can write to him.
They can, you know, urge him.
I have some questions about the banking part of this, okay?
So I want to get into that a little bit.
Yes.
The SVB.
You just said that SVB is linked to having been, are you saying it was incorporated in the state of New Hampshire?
There's some kind of link there.
Can you explain it?
What are you talking about?
The Silicon Valley Bank.
You said something about it being linked or I don't know if it's incorporated through New Hampshire.
What's the link between that bank and New Hampshire?
Okay, I'll tell you.
First of all, it's Silicon Valley Bank Group.
They are the company.
In this group, there's a few entities.
One of the entities is Boston Private Bank and Trust, and you can Google that and see that.
Okay.
That entity is the cartel, is a corporation in the state of New Hampshire, a foreign profit corporation.
Remember, Foreign Profit Corporation.
Its agent is CT Systems Corporation.
It's a broom closet and a warehouse in New Hampshire.
That's Pandora Papers.
That's the Shell.
That's the LLC.
That goes back to Silicon Valley Bank.
So, in other words, any movement in cartel money can cause a run on the bank.
You know what they're not telling you from Silicon Valley Bank?
Who took the money out?
What was the catalyst?
That's right.
That's right.
They're thinking it was the economy, it was a move.
Really?
Why are all banks bouncing back right now?
And the previous bank was Signature Bank.
You know what they were tied to?
Crypto.
Again, money laundering.
So Silicon Valley Bank.
Now think about this.
They had 500 startups from Israel.
Yeah.
You know, 80% of startups go out of business in the first year.
Sure.
So they give all their billions, send it over to Israel, you know, those startups, 500 of them, and they go out of business.
Boom, there goes the money.
And again, money doesn't disappear.
It just transfers.
That money didn't go away.
It just went to Israel.
That is the essence of money laundering.
It is taking it out of this country, putting it in another country, and coming back in this country and buying commercial real estate, residential real estate.
Ask the people of Arizona.
That's exactly what's happening there.
Yes, yes.
I understand that.
Okay, now I want to slow you down one moment because I will have a special question.
There is a bank that has just bought Silicon Valley Bank.
I don't have it right in front of me.
Do you know which bank I'm talking about?
No.
Okay.
Well, during the show, maybe I can dig it out because I just came across it.
It's big news.
It happened like a day or two ago.
And it's kind of like this obscure bank that I've never heard of, actually.
So I'm a little, you know, I think it's a little strange.
The thing is that besides that, they said that Silicon Valley Bank was Totally a cartel operation.
That's funny, I was the only one that said that.
So now they're coming out and saying that?
Yeah.
Good.
Well okay, but the thing is that What they also said is there was a run, all of a sudden there was a run on the bank for like no reason.
And some people said it was bad management at the top, which I think is a lie.
But nonetheless, they were saying that the top, you know, the chief operating officers or whatever, were basically too high invested in treasury bonds, was it?
Yeah, that's what they're claiming.
It's baloney.
And that there because the interest rates, those bonds weren't worth as much.
And therefore, it was a bad investment because they were the long term kind of bonds, as I recall, instead of the short term, which means your money, I guess, is hooked up and can't go anywhere.
So they weren't as solvent and fluid as they should be.
But this sounds like actually an operation in and of itself, to take down that bank in a certain way, so that they could fold it in.
You know, I don't know whether, you know, I don't know if we have time for this, but it does look like this banking, the failure, so-called failure of banks, is actually A folding in of smaller banks into the bigger fish so then they can do their digital, you know, the central bank digital currency, whatever, you know, the reset.
Well, let's not forget, I was in the mortgage industry.
I turned around and worked with Fannie Mae on targeting with bonds and interest rate moves.
Think about this, they're lying The bond market moved.
Think about this.
If that's the case, that's the case with banks across the country.
They're the ones that went out of business.
It isn't true.
This is what happened.
What's happening is Congress is tipping off the cartels.
It's why Auto Fare sold in New Hampshire.
It's why Granite State Recovery sold in New Hampshire.
Prospective Trust.
These are cartel assets that are moving.
The connection with Silicon Valley Bank and through New Hampshire and the investigation of the Pandora Papers leaves a door open for them to get caught.
So you know who ran out that door?
Cartel money.
The fact that the cartel money moved out suddenly, and we didn't hear from those people, collapsed the bank.
And that is the danger of the risk Across this country, particularly with regional banks.
Here's the question, ready?
How much money is in these banks and assets that are cartel-owned and corruption-driven?
I mean, there's your collapses.
So in other words, the investigation, and also Trump.
Don't forget, Trump's sitting this with my evidence.
My evidence catches the entities from New Hampshire.
Don't mistake the connection from Silicon Valley Bank in the state of New Hampshire in that same money laundering network.
So in other words, if that goes down, and believe me, Trump's the wild card.
While Trump's turning around and saying, I'm going to go after cartels, he's sending a message.
When he says he's going to dismantle the deep state, he's sending a message.
Don't forget, they're sending a message to him by trying to indict him.
So we're playing a war of words.
We're playing the blackmail game.
Okay, yes, and I agree with that.
But I found the bank that bought Silicon Valley Bank.
It's called Citizens Bank or something like that.
You've heard of it?
Well, I heard of it.
Citizens First something bank.
Okay.
First Citizens.
It's called First Citizens Bank.
And it's out of, I think it's South Carolina, North Carolina.
Yeah.
And they, so they bought, they've taken over 17 branches of SVB, 19 billion of its deposits and 72 billion worth of loans.
So that, then the next question is, you have to go and look at Who are first citizens?
Because if they've taken over Silicon Valley Bank, they're getting help, and they are probably just as deep into the cartel as New Hampshire and the rest.
My suggestion is exactly correct.
You would have to investigate them.
I'm telling you, the cartel's moving assets that I know of to other shell companies that are controlled by cartels.
In fact, one company from an auto dealership Goes right back to Israel again.
Okay, but I have a question between what we call the IRS and the Treasury, the Fed and the Treasury, okay?
My understanding is that Trump put the Fed under the Treasury before he left office.
Would you agree with that?
Well, You have the IRS and the Treasury.
The IRS is the collecting agency.
The Treasury is what keeps the money and spends it.
Yeah, but I'm interested.
They're both federal organizations.
Okay, but so the Fed is the one that's pulling the strings with the interest rates, okay?
And that seems to be one of the ingredients in this that is causing Or is responsible is the money that hit the system, even since 2008, right?
They just kept printing money, and now they want to pull it back using interest rates, which hurts the people.
Would you agree?
Well, again, I happen to be an expert at this, owning the largest volume company, so we are talking in my realm.
And my realm is this.
Biden, in his first year of office, printed 60% of all the currency ever printed in the history of this country.
They flooded this country with cash.
Now, when you have more of something, doesn't it get devalued?
They knew exactly what they were doing.
And here's something else.
It's called the reverse yield curve.
What happens is when the lower end of the market has a higher rate of return than the longer end of the market, it signals inflation.
We were having that for the last two years.
The Feds knew what was going to happen with inflation.
They printed the money anyway.
They threw gasoline on a fire.
That's what they did.
So at the same point, right, the Feds also had to conclude there was going to come a time where they had to start raising rates.
So you had an economy living with free money, values of properties, that's what people should be concerned about, is real estate.
That is going to be the painful collapse.
So in other words, they knew exactly what's happening.
Listen, I knew what was happening.
The Feds knew what was going to happen.
They also knew that they were going to drive this economy down.
I'm telling the American people, this was done intentionally.
Sure.
Intentionally.
So what we really got to ask ourselves is, What is the intention?
Well, that's it.
That's what I'm going to ask you now.
So what's the end game?
Do you understand that there were, I mean, you're obviously very knowledgeable in this area, so you must know that they're planning, you know, Charles, I mean, Klaus Schwab and his whole group are planning to move us into a digital currency and a digital banking system.
But their competition is actually what we call the QFS, which is supposed to be under Trump.
So there are two systems that are about to sort of topple or get to the top of the mountain, and they're both vying for control.
Would you think that's a good characterization?
I think the word control is the operative word.
They are looking to control the American people.
Think about this.
How do the few control the many?
First they do is divide us.
Isn't that what the media and politicians have done to us?
Step one, right?
Divide us.
But then it's the control.
Well, how do they control?
They control by fear.
So what do they do?
87,000 IRS agents armed is not a signal of where they and how they coming for us.
Yes.
And with a digital currency, being able to turn around and shut you off from your assets, you're not burying cash, you're not buying gold, you're digital.
And boom, they shut off your credit card, they shut up your life.
It is the ultimate means of control.
Okay, so let's give the people some kind of incentive here to understand what you're talking about, the evidence you have, the money laundering, the child trafficking, the gun running, and the drug, you know, all run by the cartels, okay?
All run by the New World Order, as it happens.
And then, basically, I was told, and maybe you can contradict this, whatever, that Trump and his boys, whoever they are, You know what, I've heard so many things.
to take over those cartels.
They're trying to basically take over that system so they can crash it.
Have you heard that?
You know what?
I've heard so many things.
I think personally, it's ridiculous.
You don't take over the cartels.
You put them in jail.
You shoot them for treason.
You try them as mass murderers.
And you do this, not with the boys.
How about this?
Trump has a good history of picking the boys.
I mean, we got Barr.
We got, I mean, I don't trust the boys.
Okay.
Okay.
I appreciate that.
But some of that may be what we call, you know, keeping your enemies close, your friends close, but your enemies closer.
That's always one of the sort of principles, it seems, and operating principles of the whole Trump group.
I've studied them deeply.
I know a lot of White Hats and I know how they operate to a degree.
So they are all about trying to discover, first of all, one of the things they had to do for many years is actually discover the top players, right?
I gave them the top players.
They know the top players.
They even know where they're going to keep their money.
You know what I would tell you is... But how can you do it without getting killed?
This is a question.
Well, I've been trying to do that.
I've been homeless for the last five years on the move, so... I know, but you're not Trump, you know what I'm saying?
So we just have to... It's more likely for me to get killed.
It's easier for me to be murdered.
I've had three murder attempts.
So you know what I'd say, Trump?
This is what I'd say, you ready?
It's time to stand up.
It's you and the American people.
Just as I had to take a stand, I had to turn around and say, what is more important in my life, even the lives of my children, who I love dearly, was that everybody's children.
So you know what?
You assume the risk, just like you would send an 18-year-old off to war to fight for his country.
Well, it's your turn right now.
You assume the risk.
I do, and I don't have bodyguards.
So I'm saying is the way to do this is you tell the American people everything.
You give them names.
You turn around and you call out the cartels.
You give these corrupt politicians and let the American people be a judge.
I'm going to tell you something.
If Trump did that, he'd be president of the United States right now.
Exactly.
He'd be trusted with the American people.
Okay, but understanding that they have a limited, I guess, you know, they don't own the New York Times, they don't own the CNN yet, I don't think, but they have gotten some inroads, no doubt about it.
I don't know what they're waiting for, okay, frankly, but I assume they got somebody like you.
I mean, what they could be doing to protect you, first of all, that's number one, right?
Shouldn't they be protecting you?
If they want to win, they should.
Well, I'm sure they want to win, you know.
Do you know who 107 is?
Who?
107.
No.
So you haven't been in touch with him?
Listen, I've been in touch with a lot of people, and they've been in touch with me.
I'm not sure.
It's possible.
He's part of the top echelon of the Trump group.
So I'm just asking you, and I have been in touch with him directly.
What I want to know is, you know, how we can move you along so that your story gets what we call legs, and that people understand it.
Because one of the things I noticed in listening to your story, as it's been put out there, is it's so far-reaching and goes so deep.
And I know about the Pandora Papers, and I started doing my own investigations there.
But, you know, it's not simple.
It's not easy to understand, right?
There are a lot of rabbit holes along the way.
Well, you know what?
I tried to simplify it.
And what I tried to do is reach out to the American people and connect the dots.
I came from a perspective from the bottom of catching all this.
And I put it in videos, over 500 videos of me approaching the FBI with a camera, the DEA with a camera.
I called out the cartel to their faces, put them on signs across highways.
I mean, I brought it to the American people and I'm trying to make it and simplify it.
So I do think it's, it's, we can have them grasp this.
And we were saying, as far as the media, this would grow like wildfire, even through social media, American people know that there's corruption now.
They are hungry to hear the truth.
And I'm asking the president, president Trump to come forward because Because he has loyal followers in a platform that would ignite.
It is the one commonality.
I don't care what faith you are.
I don't care what race you are, what politicians.
We love our children and want our children to have a future.
These people are human traffickers.
The cartels and traffickers are one in the same.
There is an evil.
None of us None of us can stand on that side.
So if there is a driving force that will unite this country as one again, it's this issue.
Exactly.
And have President Trump be a president for all the people and fight an evil.
I mean, they believe now the FBI is corrupt.
People accepted that.
They were even accepting the corruption in our courtrooms.
So what we are doing and what I've tried to do is connect those dots.
I would like to help the president connect those dots.
They have my evidence.
They know the importance.
Or they wouldn't have Flynn reach out to me to keep Trump in office.
Right.
I believe it's why James O'Keefe resigned.
Okay, now let's talk a little bit about the James O'Keefe piece because that seems so strange, you know.
So they got rid of him or they got him out of Veritas, right?
Yes.
And some people have complained about his techniques or the way he ran the company, blah, blah, blah.
That's probably got nothing to do with why they wanted him out.
But why did they want him out?
I can tell you exactly.
O'Keefe, when he went to the move in New Hampshire with his Libertarians, 20,000, and included Aaron Day and Ben Swan, they met in and confronted with the cartel, Shaheen's cartel, Dick Aganos's cartel.
They controlled the politics.
So O'Keefe wasn't going to achieve his vision of a state-run Libertarian group.
Now, if you Google, and this is in 2014, O'Keefe investigates Bill Greiner.
Ben Swann investigates Bill Greiner.
And then an article with all of them.
Bill Greiner is the money man for the cartel.
He runs their political network.
He is the chairman of the board of primary bank, the cartel bank, 100% drug money.
So they had a problem.
First, they didn't want to get murdered, but they brought me the cartel in 2016.
And then I ran for governor.
They brought me the evidence.
I hired five of his top operatives, Aaron Day, Eileen Landley, Rumpler, Greg Theodore, and somebody who was in the inside that if I mentioned his name, he'd wind up dead.
But my point being is his operatives collected this information with me.
They infiltrated my organization of state of corruption, taking my evidence, using my witnesses, and they gave, ready?
They gave them up.
What did that mean?
I'll tell you what it means.
O'Keefe was working with Sununu.
Sununu becomes governor.
He opens the door for O'Keefe and his libertarians.
By Sununu appointing his banking commissioner little prior was the key to the vault of Pandora Papers.
So once Sununu moved with O'Keefe to get control of the banking department, they leveraged Shaheen with being quiet.
Like they didn't bring up the fact that Sununu financed his ski resort from three terrorist groups tied to 9-11.
And what I'm telling you was front page on Breitbart and people can Google.
So they made a deal with the bad guys.
Okay, I guess I'm still not clear.
What was the deal?
The deal with the bad guys is they wouldn't rat them out, as long as his libertarians could, I don't know, get a party in the state or something?
Right, so Sununu opens the door to the libertarians.
Shaheen backs off about the real news of who Sununu is, Sununu turns around and tells them, now that I control the banking department, you either work with me or we give up the drug cartel, we give up their money laundering network, and you all go to jail.
So guess what?
All of a sudden now Sununu runs the banking department.
And guess who's running for president?
Remember I told you about Sununu, right?
Well, it isn't just the $932 billion, you ready?
It's the secrets that they hold.
That's how you win presidencies and so forth.
So Sununu immediately runs for president.
And you're ready for this?
You know, that same Aaron Day?
Well, he's running for president, too.
So how about this?
These people are not going to get anywhere.
I mean... Oh, really?
Well, it just doesn't seem like, you know, the real presidential race.
And these people are not front and center in the eyes of the American public at the moment.
But of course, that's if we actually had a real election instead of some fake election.
So, you know, whatever.
Sununu is the fifth rated governor in the country.
Sununu holds all the dark secrets of the Pandora Papers.
Think about this.
Who has been the most vocal against Trump in the country?
Well, that would be Sununu, who called for his impeachment, who turns around and shakes the hands of Bidens and tells them that Trump's crazy.
Sununu holds those secrets.
And you know why Sununu hates Trump?
Because Trump knows what he's doing.
Because I told him.
Well, I mean, with all due respect, and I'm sure that you told him, but I'm sure others have told him as well.
I mean, these people have an incredible network.
So yes, they've gotten documentation, you've got documentation.
I still don't understand why Trump is not protecting you.
Because I'm dangerous to everybody, and that's the cold hard truth.
Think about this, ready?
Yes.
I'm going to make it clear to you, and you're going to go, you're going to have an aha moment.
The question to Trump is, if you had Mike Gill's evidence, Why didn't you tell the people?
Right.
Well, remember that evidence is blackmail and extortion.
Remember how they were going after Trump?
The FBI was going after Trump, right?
The Democratic Deep State was going after Trump.
Now, if Trump had all of them in his pocket by saying, listen, I know who you are and what you've done.
Now, think about this.
You ready?
Why did Flynn Turn around and contact me with emails and text messages.
Because they were establishing a new timeline.
Mike Gill gave Trump the evidence after the election through General Flynn.
Problem solved.
See?
New timeline.
Now the thing here is, is that, that whatever the case is, a plausible deniability.
That's, for instance, why did O'Keefe resign?
Because O'Keefe gave the evidence to Trump because when I didn't take their $50 million offer, O'Keefe and Day thought they would be murdered.
So at that point, they went to Trump.
That's why I went to Washington to meet with Bureau Chief Stephen Gregory of Epoch Times, Trump's most trusted media source, according to Trump.
I met with these individuals.
They wanted my evidence again.
And this is what was going to happen.
You ready?
I was going to give them my evidence, and it was a three-hour interview on camera.
And then I was going to go back to New Hampshire and be murdered.
That's a fact.
So what happened was, they needed me silent.
But if they had me on video, they could pull that up at any time and show it to the American people.
Well, I'm getting you on video.
I mean, you know, maybe it's not such a big deal.
They could do it if I could do it, right?
It was different.
The timing was different.
People didn't know.
How about this?
People didn't know what this was and what I have.
I still don't understand why O'Keefe would be motivated to be quiet about you.
Well, O'Keefe made a deal with Sununu.
to get his people in.
I mean, that is the deal.
Okay, so they're stepping down for a lesser win.
Oh, it's a big win for them.
Because now the Sununu also owns, owes O'Keefe.
O'Keefe goes to the president, the president owes O'Keefe.
Now think about O'Keefe's problem now.
You ready?
Yeah.
What is O'Keefe?
Undercover, secret, tapes.
What was Epstein and Maxwell?
Secret tapes, undercover?
Sure.
And wouldn't they into blackmail?
What came out of New Hampshire with O'Keefe?
He turned around and said some 60-year-old woman voted twice.
Stop the presses!
That's what he comes up with?
He gave me the cartel.
We had the money laundering network.
He recorded the Treasury Inspector General of the United States.
Did he tell you that?
You asked why he resigned.
Of course he didn't resign.
They didn't kick him out.
What, did he steal a sandwich from a pregnant woman?
You buying that?
No.
All right.
Okay, so what really, I'm still, okay, but why did he step, you know, why would he step out of the limelight in such a way, all to get his libertarians into New Hampshire, as you call it?
What kind of win is that?
Well, first of all, the win was I was going to take the $50 million, sign a federal release saying that I could never say a word to anyone.
You wouldn't never do that, though.
You've already proven that.
Well, wait a minute.
The judgment that came with the $50 million was $274 million with the cartel.
So here's the point.
When you're not going to take their $50 million, They take your $274 million.
It's a lot harder to bribe a rich guy than a poor homeless guy.
See?
So there was a theory here.
And what I did by saying no still, which is why I've been homeless for five years, living on hot dogs and looking over my shoulder, no one would have expected me to say this now.
You asked a question, why did O'Keefe resign?
Or forced out or whatever horseshit they want to sell us.
Right.
Because if Trump uses the evidence, it could come out that O'Keefe gave him the evidence, too.
So if O'Keefe goes down, if O'Keefe goes down by not telling the American people, so does Project Veritas.
So it's the simple methodology.
You save the host by separating yourself from the host.
So the host turns around and goes, hey, he's a bad guy.
He stole a sandwich.
And then he turns around and leaves.
So if anything happens to O'Keefe, Project Veritas remains a company.
And they get to say, I told you so.
Now, think about this.
Now, you ready?
This evidence that I have.
They raided Mar-a-Lago.
Trump.
They were looking for this evidence.
Oh, wait a minute.
They raided James O'Keefe too now, didn't they?
Okay, but do you- Wait a minute, same feds and Giuliani.
What were they looking for?
They were looking for the evidence that would incriminate them.
What would Trump hide?
Tribe would hide his insurance policy, the same one that he had General Flynn get from me to stay in office.
What would reach that level of concern?
Now, wait a minute.
Why would the FBI be so concerned?
Because the FBI goes down with the Pandora Papers.
They are the protection network.
What did we not hear President Trump just say?
The intelligence agencies in this country are guilty of treason.
Sure.
Right.
He knows.
Well, I mean, look, with the stolen election alone they could prove that.
Absolutely.
You know, the CIA safe house, Gina Haskell, that whole thing.
So, But who do you prove it to when they control the Justice Department?
I'm kind of still stuck back where you're talking about, okay, Trump wanted something from you to stay in office.
What is that piece from you?
Was that a piece of blackmail that he could get holed up against?
What is it?
Is it Biden?
I will tell you what it is.
It's the incrimination.
It's their money laundering network.
It is the essence of what is the Pandora Papers.
So if you know, if you find their money, you find them.
Listen, it's the one question these corrupt politicians can't answer.
You ready?
I'm, you know, listen, no, intuitively I'm telling, there's something else here.
So I get what you're saying, and I get that in general terms, but I'm actually trying to get a little more specific than that.
Now, I don't necessarily expect you're going to tell me, I will tell you.
I think there's a piece of something here that is bigger or something that people don't know about or maybe we do know about it but it hasn't been proven.
I'm not sure what.
But how can you say, I mean are you just, you know, Someone might think you're sort of overestimating your worth, so to speak, by saying that Trump came to you to keep him in office.
You must have some piece of evidence that's very much more specific, meaning to take down Biden, to prove the election fraud, something.
I'm telling you what it is.
First of all, ready?
Again, we've got 330 million Americans.
Why did General Flynn find me after the election with Sidney Powell?
Was Flynn and Powell in the Oval Office working with Trump to stay in office?
Yes.
Now, ready?
What was the first thing that General Flynn, in writing, asked me for?
Can I have that settlement agreement?
You know, the one for 50 million?
The one that releases, really, The entities of the money laundering network.
So the secret to all this is, and my importance is, I uncovered the Deep State, which turned out to be the Pandora Papers, money laundering network of the corrupt, which I believe includes Clinton and Biden.
It's the one question that these criminals can't answer.
You ready?
Ready?
Joe, where'd you get the billions, Joe?
Where'd you get the billions?
Oh, and Clinton?
Well, it involves Clinton, it involves Biden, it involves Obama.
You know what?
I don't know about Obama, but I know the direct connection from Shaheen.
You know what?
I'm not disputing that.
But you know what I deal with?
Straight up evidence.
Everything I have, I can prove.
Well, I know certain people who, if they talked, could prove what I'm talking about.
But okay, let's figure this out.
Okay, now what else is it?
Is there something else involved in all of this?
Because what we have is, we have actually, you said January 6th, and then they couldn't use the evidence for some reason.
I didn't say they couldn't use it.
They promised to use it.
They promised to send it to the American people.
Now I have those all on text messages, and what I'm telling you, thousands of people have seen.
They didn't use it.
I asked General Flynn, in fact, Joe Flynn follows me on Twitter.
I asked them, I said, why aren't you telling the American people?
So if there's a plan, then people or children are dying.
So when I'm telling you about the money laundering network, Right.
Also, no, it's cartel money.
So think about the domino effect of this.
Not only do we get the corrupt politicians and the protection and the FBI, but we get the money that they're laundering alongside of these corrupt politicians.
That is the cartels.
That is the dark money.
Those are your human traffickers.
So understand my over-importance.
Listen, I pray to God that every day that I was wrong.
I want to be paranoid one time and be wrong.
When I called the Deep State, it turned out to be the Pandora Papers.
My evidence is in writing from the Department of Justice right to AG Sessions.
You can't make this up.
Okay, now I have another question because I have, like I told you, I did some investigation into the Pandora Papers.
One thing I noticed that has a lot to do with offshore money.
That's the nature of the beast!
Right.
So in other words, we send the money from, understand money laundering, you ready?
You take the dark money and they, and all these criminals want to get to use it.
So they put it in banks and entities, you know, like Silicon Valley Bank, primary bank.
Now what they've got to do is use trust in LLCs to move it offshore, you know, like to the Ukraine.
Why was Trump chasing Hunter Biden in the Ukraine?
He was looking for their money.
Now, you take it offshore, right?
And when you bring it back, it's clean.
And when it comes back clean, they invested in, I don't know, auto dealerships like Auto Fair, the largest auto dealer in New England, commercial real estate, residential real estate, which is why the Sinaloa cartel owns half of Arizona.
Right?
There it is.
They put it in that and those assets are dummy corporations still.
But the same thing with Silicon Valley Bank.
500 startups in Israel.
That doesn't mean that that money doesn't come back to this country.
But it comes back as real estate.
It comes back as businesses.
It comes back as protected fronts.
It is the nature of the laundering network.
It's the disconnect from going offshore.
Okay, yeah, but Pandora Papers does detail that to some degree.
They don't go very deep into it, as far as I could tell.
They get to a certain point and they stop.
Well, here's the stop.
The stop is in New Hampshire.
They gave you $932 billion in New Hampshire.
What do they want us to catch the criminals to?
They gave you $300 billion in the state of South Dakota.
Let's think.
That's $1.2 trillion.
Almost double the defense budget.
And again, let's think.
South Dakota's a small state?
Yeah.
You know the other two states they mentioned?
Wyoming and Delaware.
So if you add New Hampshire in that group, that's four of the six smallest states in this country.
Easier to control.
Wyoming's got a half a million people in it.
That's I mean, some cities are bigger than Wyoming population.
It is the methodology.
See?
So, the Pandora Papers took the money back and told us, ready?
A hundred journalists say, it's right there.
Now, do you know what they were missing?
The largest cartels in the world.
You know what they are?
They're called the American cartels.
The American cartels.
Trump turns around and points the finger at Mexico and said, we're going to invade.
You know what the president of Mexico said?
Fentanyl problem is an American problem.
And he's right.
The largest cartels in this country are American cartels.
They control distribution.
You're talking about the intelligence agencies.
Well, I'm talking about the American cartel.
I mean, that's who's at the top, right?
That's who's above the Sinaloa cartel.
You're talking Americans, you're talking CIA, you're talking, I don't know if NSA is also involved.
You know, you're talking, those are the real cartels.
I'm telling you this, the largest cartels are American cartels.
These American cartels Pay the FBI.
Pay the intelligence agencies.
Those agencies work for the cartel.
These cartels own hospitals, treatment centers, pharmacies.
Listen, I have proven this.
Well, I'm not sure the agencies work for the cartels or it's the other way around.
I mean... All right, ready?
Who's got the money?
Who's got the money?
Who does?
Okay, who does?
The cartel has the money.
That is the dark money.
When we say the cartel, though, what are we talking about?
I mean, what's, you know, who are we talking about?
In New Hampshire, the guy's name is Dick Anagos.
His second in command is Andy Cruz.
I find it hard to believe that those guys are at the top.
I really do.
Well, you know something?
Maybe it's MA6, you know, in Britain.
Maybe it's, you know, maybe it's because the dark magicians that are in France, you know, maybe it's the P2, you know, collective.
I am telling you who owns the distribution network.
Listen, I had 106 witnesses I know exactly who they are.
106.
I had six separate arresting state troopers.
I had a federal judge.
I had a prosecutor.
I had more than 20 people inside the cartel.
This Dick Aganos owns hospitals, treatment centers, pharmacies, hospice care.
You know what he also has?
A chain of casinos and strip clubs.
Did anybody else watch Ozark but me?
I watched it.
Okay.
So hold it now.
Hold it.
He is sitting in the middle of the largest money laundering network in the world, the largest protection network in the world, ground zero for opiates in the world.
And here's something else, right?
What do we add to the party guns?
Now, who knows the tiny state of New Hampshire manufactures more assault weapons than any state in the country.
New Hampshire.
Oh, drugs, laundering, and guns.
I mean, how's that for a trifecta?
Right.
So that's what it is.
And if there's a bigger cartel in the country, well, let's get them too.
Let's talk about Vegas.
No, no, no, I'm serious.
Let's talk about Vegas.
Because I still hear you, and I still think it goes up above that.
Do you know that it goes up above that?
Because I don't see that as the top level.
I am telling you, as far as the cartel operative, I believe he's at the top.
Now, are there others across the country?
He's connected to the Sinaloa cartel.
Why do you think?
What do you think?
And you can Google this, you ready?
They wanted to move El Chapo to guess where?
Bedford, New Hampshire, the home of Dick Aguinald, a mile away.
The same DEA that I gave the evidence on camera that filled a tractor trailer full of fentanyl.
Okay, let's say something.
Let's say hypothetically, if I'm right, and there's another layer above that, let's talk about that because that would mean, you know, I don't know, do you know who George Webb is?
The journalist, George Webb?
Yes, yeah.
He's a guy who likes... You mentioned casinos.
Yes.
You know what else I discovered?
Now, being the world champion of thoroughbred racing and then homeless, I mean, if that ain't a book.
But what I found was the casinos is a money laundering network.
Penn National Gaming, right?
The largest network of casinos in the country.
There's a video called Married to the Mob, where you see me in a, no kidding, I mean, it should be a movie in that one video.
It was an informant from the mob.
But Penn National Casino, along with Liberty Mutual, who represented Shaheen, offered me $25 million apiece on camera.
We're not even counting that settlement.
Why did Penn National want me to pay me off?
Because they were fixing races.
Offshore gambling.
And having their money come back four to five to one clean.
The casinos are attached.
Do you know who owns Penn National?
I think it's 33-something percent.
Wynn Casino.
Sure.
And the same Wynn Casino were on my wires that I had a gentleman intercept.
Wynn resigned.
Steve Wynn resigned.
He was only buying the land from the Costa Nostra.
Now, does that seem crazy?
Except for it's on the front page of the Boston Globe.
Well, but that goes back to Italy.
Well, what it does is it shows you the in-depth size of the laundering network across this country.
Their weakness, and people should understand this, their Achilles heel is finding their money and how they clean it.
That is the way in.
I am a strategist.
It's how I built two of the largest companies in the United States and then the world.
It's from a strategy.
Their weakness is their money.
Finding it and cleaning it.
It involves casinos.
Penn National has a string of racetracks across the country.
Okay, but let me ask you something.
You've got all of this, but it sounds very sort of based within the borders of the United States, and I would say if you really want to get to the big boys, so to speak, you gotta go outside the U.S.
Have you had anyone approach you who can match your stuff, your network, your sort of the legwork you have done so far, and show you how it expands out into Places like Credit Suisse and other banks as well as the Vatican.
Brendan Lee O'Connell from Australia.
While we work together, he brings a certain degree of knowledge outside the country.
I think it's why we mesh so well for the time we work together because he brought certain knowledges that I didn't have.
What I had was the grassroots from within this country.
Yes.
In fact, there's a meeting that I had with the cartel.
It's called, and you'll see it on text even, message from the cartel.
And what they told me was, and you can see it and read it for yourself, that I just reached the tip of the iceberg.
Meaning to me, it was outside this country.
And this person who was telling me spent Went to every week, Istanbul, Dubai, Moscow.
I mean, it was the nature of who we was.
So do I think that there are?
Yes.
But what I speak of, and this is important, what people have to understand, I have to tell you what I know.
I can't speculate like other people can speculate.
Now, can I?
I could, but I can't because I have to be right each and every time.
Because if what I'm telling you is inaccurate, everything that I'm telling you can be questioned.
Which is why you never hear anybody say he's not telling the truth.
You don't hear Flynn come up and say anything.
You don't hear people from Trump's campaign.
In fact, Roger Stone recently put in a text, and then I put out there, saying that I was right about it all.
These are people that are close.
In fact, Roger Stone at that time was with General Flynn and Eric Trump.
So they know.
No one disputes or argues with them.
Even O'Keefe is not saying I'm wrong.
Right.
Okay, now, I don't know how long we've been going here.
I want to make sure that, you know, this gets out.
I want to put it out tonight as soon as possible.
But what is it that can be done?
Okay, you and I have agreed that Trump needs to move on this information.
And somehow this needs to start rolling out to where it gets on the front page of the mainstream newspapers and on Where news people will talk about it.
Because, in essence, this is the corruption at the base of the system, right?
Yes.
Maybe there is a way to link this, or to understand it, I'm sure it's linked, to the fall of the banking system.
Because that's what we're looking at.
You know, these are things that affect everyday Americans right now, right?
It is part of the fall of the banking system.
As the closer we get to the cartel, the more Trump threatens the cartels directly.
Think about this, you ready?
What do the cartels move first?
They can't just sell properties as easy or businesses.
They move their cash.
That's what you're seeing in the banking system.
They're moving cash.
That's what left Silicon Valley Bank.
They were insolvent because the cash left in 48 hours.
And prior to that, what was their stock?
$630 a share?
That's a sudden drop.
You're suggesting that they were the ones who took all the money out of the bank and made it fall.
Yes, yes, because they are in the Pandora Papers and that's the connection to New Hampshire into that dummy corporation.
So they had a direct line to think about this.
What's the chances of them having an incorporation in New Hampshire with an agent in a broom closet And then moving their money without a real explanation.
The explanation they give us would then befall every bank in the country, and they were the ones that went down.
It was a smokescreen.
That's what it was.
Okay, let me ask you this.
Doesn't the Treasury know exactly who pulled out that money from SVB?
Right.
Do you remember that Treasury Inspector General who ran a cover-up for three years, Tim Campos?
Right, from the Treasury.
Of course they know.
They're part of the corruption.
Right.
I mean, it is the most corrupt... Well, Americans, I'm sure they want to know that.
And I'm sure actually some, you know, some tech firms wouldn't mind the information either.
You know what I'm saying?
I mean, supposedly this First Citizens Bank, which I'd love to have you back on my show after you tell me what First Citizens Bank is involved in.
You know, in other words, once you have a template for figuring out how these, you know, it's kind of like how the rats run through the maze.
The methodology, right?
Then you can apply it to every state government across the United States, wouldn't you say?
This is exactly what I did.
The methodology in New Hampshire is across the country and the people I'm helping in Arizona.
What happens is these law firms infiltrate your AG's office.
They become your assistant and AG.
They then be run for government.
They become governor.
From those entities in the AG, they become judges.
So you have a network of corrupt judges.
You control the departments within the state.
The Secretary of State is always one of their own.
Secretary of State Gardner was in for 40 years.
The day they moved, Pandora Papers made it public.
Guess who resigned?
Boom, Gardner's out and gone.
Who becomes the governor of Arizona?
Hobbs, the previous Secretary of State.
Who's now the Secretary of State of Arizona?
An assistant AG.
Banking department?
An assistant AG.
The same attorney general's office that is the methodology of control in the state.
Now, what do those law firms do that infiltrated your state government?
They go to the drug cartels and human traffickers and corrupt politicians and go, how would you like to be prosecution proof, judgment proof?
We control the courts.
Now, what's that worth to you?
And that is how we lost the state.
And that's the methodology in each and every one of our states.
It's a takeover.
Right.
And it's now become a reflection of a federal government.
No doubt.
Well, I mean, Mike, it's really incredible what you've done.
It's incredibly valuable what you've got.
And I'd like to see it again on the front page of all the newspapers in the country.
I would like this to be mainstream news.
I would like Trump and his team to get it out there.
Okay, so we're going to put the word out here.
I have other colleagues in my sector that hopefully will bring you on their shows.
You can explain more.
You can come back on mine and do the same thing.
Let's stay on the story, okay?
This is enough for one time for people to watch this and try to wrap their minds around how this is a template.
This is very important because if you can be bigger, Then even just one state, and you are, then that's where you follow the money and you follow the trail and it gets bigger and bigger and bigger.
And I'm sure my understanding kind of the techniques of the White Hats, this is what they're doing even now.
So they're looking for bigger fish.
You know how the DEA will get the smaller fish and then they'll get the top guy but they'll hold out and hold out and hold out on the evidence until they can get the very top guy.
I don't know what their technique is going to be, okay?
I do know that you've got the evidence, okay, and that matters and people have tried to buy you off and you're quite unique in this regard.
The DEA partners with the cartel.
How about this?
Now, this I have evidence on.
The cartels' boats are meeting the Coast Guard off the shores of Miami.
They are unloading drugs, fentanyl.
And that's where the military comes in.
The military is also implicated, right?
Right.
This is the Coast Guard.
They're bringing it to the FBI in Miami.
Miami is a pipeline across the country, but particularly to New Hampshire.
I have a recording, President Trump, of FBI agents talking on the phone to cartel members about distributing fentanyl.
Okay?
I have their names.
I have their witnesses.
But who do I give them to?
I'd like to give them to you.
Right.
The battlegrounds we have as American people is for this to go viral.
Whether it's a collection of a podcast or whatever, we have got the line in the sand.
If I go viral one time, we make history.
We make history.
Here's the thing, they've got to stop me every single time.
Every single time.
We need to win once.
Well, I think, you know, I don't know what they're hearing.
I know what I've heard.
You know, I'm convinced.
I think that there are a lot of people out there that probably have additional corroborating evidence that they could even send you.
Now, do you have contact information that you can give out of any kind?
Through social media right now.
Okay.
Whether Twitter.
Okay.
On Twitter.
Okay.
Right.
I'd like to tell you more, but trust me, they're listening to every word.
Of course.
Every word.
I understand that.
Okay.
But if you can do that, then I will, I take fundamental chances, risks.
I've decided to take more risks now because I understand the importance of where we are.
And if I've got to take that risk now, I'm doing so.
And I know that I have to, Come out and be public, and it's my intention to be very public, but I'm doing it in a way that meets the risk.
Now, if I would like to go to Arizona and speak to those people, because the people, the organizers I talked to, Didn't understand the methodology.
Sometimes you don't know how far ahead of you are.
Well, have you been in touch with the lawyer who uncovered the housing, sort of the real estate scandal behind the changing the votes?
No, just the organizers.
Okay, well, you know, you need to do that.
You need to get in touch with that lawyer because she's taking a lot of chances.
But again, you've got, in essence, what we've got is a template for the cartel, how they operate, you know, how they run their game, and it could easily apply to every state that we have.
And once you focus on the states, you go into international waters.
This is every state.
How about this?
The IRS is federal, the Treasury is federal, the FBI is federal.
These cartels are in every state.
They own businesses.
They're the businesses across the state.
They're the real estate holder, the commercial landholder.
They are in our lives everywhere.
They are in hiding.
You know, this is like the mob back in the day, I don't know, it's the 1930s or whenever it was, you know, this is like Chicago, this is like New York, this is like the Godfather, right?
This is all of those on steroids.
Right.
They literally took over.
I mean, think of this, the intelligence agencies, the people who would have put these people in check, are the corrupt.
Sure.
It's the checks and balances.
We've been sold out as a people.
Yeah.
We've paid the trust, have betrayed us.
You know those corrupt lawyers in the Attorney General's office?
You know the worst of them became?
Politicians.
I wonder why we have so many lawyers are politicians.
Yeah.
That's why.
You control the Justice Department, No doubt.
I had to pick up supplies the other day.
I'm driving around like a criminal.
Like a criminal.
Afraid to be stopped, afraid to be noticed.
No, I'm going out there still.
But it's just a signal to me, is when you have to live, when you're, we're telling people the truth, and you're telling people this evidence, and you have to live like a criminal, you live in the land of corruption.
And that's what we are.
And that affects... Well, for evil, you know, for evil to proliferate, it only stands for good people to do nothing.
So the good people that are listening to this, some people, some of these people can help you.
Do you have lawyers that are working for you?
Oh, I had, oh, I don't know, 50 or 60 lawyers.
No, I mean good people now.
You know what I have?
I have people who are shooting videos, sharing my message, and getting it across the country.
I have foot soldiers.
Right.
That's what I have.
And you know what?
That is helping.
It is coming across.
We met that way.
Yes.
So they are helping.
But do I have other than that?
No.
All right.
All right.
Well, we're going to hope we can change this.
So we're going to do our best and, you know, stay in touch as much as you can, as much as you feel comfortable.
And, you know, let's let's move this ball along because it needs to be moved.
And we are we're like under a timeline, you know, as these two sort of tigers go, you know, mano mano.
With their banking systems and their desire to basically corral us, we need to make sure the good guys win.
We absolutely do.
Because it's our livelihoods and our lives and our children's lives that are on the line.
We are in a race.
We are in a race.
That's why I'm telling Trump, we don't have two years.
We have to move now.
Because I'm telling you now, they're moving that quickly.
They're moving fast.
Yeah.
And all we have to do is see how things are going.
Well, the fall of the banks is this perfectly example.
They're moving now.
Right.
That's what's happening.
Thank you, Mike Gill, for being on my show.
It's been great.
So people can get Mike Gill on Twitter.
I think I've already added you to my Twitter so we can stay in touch that way.
Facebook under Mike Gill and Truth Social.
Under state of corruption.
Okay, excellent.
All right, let's try to move this along and get a lot more notice on it.
Thank you very much again for being on the show.
Okay, thanks, Carrie.
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