SOVEREIGN REDNECK RENEGADE INTERVIEW: WE THE PEOPLE & THE WHITE HATS
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Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I am here today with ML Redneck Renegade, or Renegade Redneck, however you say it, and I guess you're still going by that name, right?
Hello?
Sovereign Redneck Renegade.
Yep.
Okay.
Sovereign Redneck Renegade.
Okay.
Fine.
So anyway, this is going to be fun.
I've actually been going back and forth with him for quite a long time, hoping to have him on my show.
So this is a big treat and I'm very, you know, very happy to have this happening today.
So, well, it's a good day to kind of, you know, sort of shoot the shit or, you know, whatever you want to call it, because Trump came out with his announcement.
And some Trump car deck things, uh, also.
And so, uh, yeah.
Why don't you kind of give you an introduction to yourself, remind people where you came from, how you got involved and such, uh, for in case I have some people in my audience who don't know who you, who you are, even though, um, actually you and I were on a show together, but I think it was quite a while ago.
So, uh, I can't remember.
Uh, back in, uh, March or April.
Oh, all right.
So you have a good memory.
All right.
Cool.
So that's when it was.
So yeah.
So introduce yourself.
Talk, talk a little bit about how you got into this whole, you know, broadcasting game.
You bet.
Well, I love to.
Yeah.
So my platform is Sovereign Redneck Renegade.
And, uh, you know, I got into this, um, almost two years ago.
After, you know, the whole January 6th event took place and whatnot like that, I think that actually inspired probably a lot of people to get involved.
And it was, honestly, at that time I was listening to Scott McKay and some other influencers where they were putting challenges out for people to get involved.
And this was one of the ways I thought, well, I want to get involved and I want to include my knowledge that I have, because like you, Kerry, you've been, shall we say, a truther for a very long time.
Well, I've also been on the truth or a conspiracy theorist, as what we used to be called, right?
For about 20 some odd years.
So, I just felt that was a great time to jump into this arena, if you will.
And it's been a very interesting ride, to say the least.
You actually really get to figure out The genuine people in this movement, right?
The genuine... I don't even like calling them influencers because I don't consider myself an influencer.
But you find out really quick who the genuine people patriots are, right?
The ones that are sincerely here to provide intel to individuals Not contrived until where they publish, or I'm sorry, they subscribe to somebody's newsletter, then they pass it off as their own information, and then they charge somebody for that access to that information, which never comes to pass, the Hopium and stuff.
And like so many of us, I got probably disenfranchised probably about March or April of 2021, when You know, certain truthers were telling us these things are going to happen.
Dates and times would come and go.
Nothing would transpire.
And it was the same thing over and over and over again.
And there was no accountability for these individuals whatsoever.
Nobody was calling them out.
Nobody was posting them up.
And I'm like, well, that's bullshit!
Why are these guys getting a pass when they're trying to... they're supposed to be some of the figureheads within this Patriot community, but yet...
They can sit there and tell people things that never comes to pass and nobody holds them accountable, you know.
And so when I jumped into this, I got involved with some guys that had a very well, a pretty wide audience I would say at that time.
And I started seeing that these guys were no different, you know.
They don't mind picking people's pockets, you know.
And I don't have a problem with people making a honest, you know, Making honest money at this because people should get compensated to some degree if you spend all your time doing research You know, but again when you're utilizing other people's information and you try and package it off as your own which it's not You know to me that's just fraudulent and I have a you know a background.
I'm prior law enforcement I have Some really amazing connections like a lot of us do within different apparatuses of the Intel community, whether that is Intel agencies, military, so forth like that.
It seems to be that we are monitored, right?
And it seems that individuals that have something credible they want to share with us, they watch us, they monitor us, and they weed out the bullshitters versus the ones that actually Um are mindful of what's going on out there and aren't trying to mislead people and and and sell them a bill of goods of opium.
I should say, you know, and I think that's where we're at right now, right?
I've actually the last two or three weeks.
I've really been promoting your content because on my channels.
I think exactly this is where I'm in line with you at I have questions and it drives people batshit crazy on my channels because I try and provide a balanced approach.
I want people to be able to start thinking critically using their own brain instead of me trying to guide their thought process of what they should believe or what they shouldn't believe.
So I present both sides of the equation always and we're at this point where that's really hard to do because There's this divide that I feel that's happening within our movement, right?
It's like we almost need a reformation within our own movement, like a 2.0.
There's just something that is happening within this movement and that divide is getting wider and wider.
And I know you see it.
I've listened to your last shows over the last two weeks, every show you've done, voicing your concern with David Zublick on their platform.
You know, when you're with Patriot Underground and Gene Decode.
You know, I've been listening to these things and I've been telling my audience, you guys need to listen because Kerry is on to this and you are validating exactly what I've been telling my own listeners.
We have some problems here and when do White Hats be... when do White Hats get held accountable or culpable?
Because like you're saying, if this is part of a movie, we're part of this strategy, we're part of this plan.
And each one of us is playing a role within this movie, right?
We have innocent bystanders along the way within this movie.
And people are losing their jobs.
They're losing their livelihoods.
They're losing their lives, period.
Their lives are becoming wrecked.
They're becoming victims because they don't know what's really happening behind the scenes.
They're just living life the best they possibly can.
And yet we're told within this community, hey, We just need to stay the course because the White Hats are absolutely in charge of everything.
And I'm not denying the White Hats are in charge, but my question is, when do the White Hats become accountable?
Because if they have the ability to flip that proverbial switch and do what they need to do, when is enough enough?
Who determines Enough people are woke because, you know, Juan, I listen to Juan not because I like Juan, I listen to Juan because I'm interested in patterns, consistencies.
And I'll tell you what, I've watched Nino for the last two weeks too.
He's starting to get pretty frustrated and pissed off himself because he had Juan on his show the other day and instead of, you know, Juan likes to, you know, take a long approach to answer a question, right?
And he tries to shut you down to get his point across.
Well, Nino wasn't having that.
Nino wanted to get his point across and his thought across, and he did.
And he has some grave concerns.
And he reminded Juan several times of things that he has said in the past that was supposed to happen that hasn't happened.
You know, like, we're supposed to get 80% of the consciousness collective to awaken before the White Hats do what they need to do?
Well, how do you quantify that?
I don't know.
You know, there's some serious questions.
And I know there was a buildup, you know, everybody thought President Trump, or I should say Commander-in-Chief Trump, because I do believe Trump is Commander-in-Chief, but that depends on which Trump we're talking about, right?
I mean, we know that there's, if we got individuals portraying characters of Joe Biden, I know for a fact there's individuals portraying the character of Juan Osoben, they're playing a role, then You know, Commander-in-Chief Trump has got a role.
So everybody was expecting Commander-in-Chief Trump to come out with some major revealing news today.
That's the big build-up.
Well, what happened?
He comes out and announces that you can actually buy for $99 a series of digital trading cards.
Well, that's interesting.
Okay, so how does that awoke more patriots in this community to get on board with the master plan?
Okay, but let me, let me just say this, and maybe it's me not understanding.
I thought his announcement was about, you know, the, how he, he said, when I am inaugurated, which was really interesting.
In the speech, you said all about the media and all about what, you know, really about the Twitter, you know, stuff and what's going on there and the people that have been banned.
And look, I've been banned.
So I appreciate hearing him say that he's going to, you know, take these people down.
He's not going to allow this to happen ever again.
Um, and you know, I thought it was a good speech that that speech part.
Um, so it was that, but I don't think it was earth shaking in any way.
This is kind of part of the problem.
I, you know, I was told, who was it?
I think it might have been SG Anon or it might have been somebody else who said they have a whole group of psychologists advising them, okay?
And I'm thinking, you know, their PR arm, as far as I'm concerned, okay, is SG Anon and Juan.
It used to be just Juan.
And then, you know, there's some sub Arms, which would be Charlie Ward, Simon Parks, Gene Decode, you know, he signed some kind of an oath, but I don't know that he's like officially a white hat by their standards of, you know, as a spokesperson for them.
I think he's divorced himself in that way.
But this is the thing, is that We get promised things and we know things are happening behind the scenes and I sent over to you today, it was in the middle of the night, but this interesting thing that Phil Godowski, Godluski, I say his name wrong, got an intelligence briefing from someone who appeared to be actually
They encoded and encrypted everything and then they then he explains in his video and I sent that around to quite a few people.
I actually, I think I posted it on my telegram.
If you're you haven't heard it, but.
Bottom line is the pilot of a plane flying down to get Mo.
Has a group of really high level, I guess, Congress people on board along with other people, and he named names.
He literally named names and Pelosi and her husband were among them.
Other individuals as well.
So, okay.
So the sound of it at least for my ear, you know, and I'm always really listening with that kind of like that intuitive side.
Okay, that's I listen more to that than I do actually to the actual words because I want to know whether something's resonating in the area of truth and for me what he read out seemed Real.
Okay.
Seemed legit, as he even said.
His mentor said it was legit.
So, I don't know.
I don't know what's going to happen with this.
I don't know if Juan or SG and on are going to pick up on this, because this was an actual happening.
Now, apparently, I think the actual, you know, communique that, if I understand it, rolled out Over the past week.
It didn't happen like last night.
I think it happened, you know, like a week ago, whenever it was so.
And I think he was being given, you know, some intel from the white hats.
Okay.
That they went out there.
This is how they're operating.
They're operating.
Even though we're how many years in well.
If you want to just say since Trump's presidency 2016, then you're talking six years, I believe, that this thing's been going on with Q and all of this.
And initially, it made sense that Q and all of them had to have a way because mainstream wouldn't allow them to speak.
Right?
And they were eventually banned from every platform, just like I was, maybe you too, for a while.
So what happens is they developed a way through Q to tell the Patriots, you know, really the Patriots, what was going on behind the scenes.
And that was great.
Okay.
I thought it was great.
But...
Now we're six years in and the techniques they're using are still the same.
They're still trying to do comms, right?
Even Trump's doing comms.
So what would you say about that?
You know, because doesn't, you know, doesn't even a war, even a, you know, whatever is the front line, whatever's going on with the war, Don't you need to change with the times?
Don't you need to have, you know, realize, okay, you bought your tactics.
So, so what would you have to say about that?
Well, I agree with that.
You know, most people, uh, they honestly think that Elon Musk bought Twitter.
No, you guys did the American taxpayers bought Twitter, just like the American taxpayers.
Created Twitter, Facebook, Google, YouTube through DARPA and all these other agencies.
So, you have to change.
You know, we always want to quote Sun Tzu, the art of war.
That's the mantra within the Patriot Q community that we refer to.
Well, you have to always change your tactics, your tactical stance, your tactical operations.
You have to do that.
You know, a lot of individuals I think the reason why a lot of individuals have not caught on to being red-pilled, shall we say, is because the Q posts were too hard for them.
Only a few people were able to decipher those at best, you know.
And over time, we've seen how some of those have come to pass, but we talk about duality, right?
So, we know that the Q posts have duality and purpose.
They talk about different timelines.
They're talking about concepts.
that are new to anybody that's there to shake people out of that cognitive dissonance that they have going on of you know being blue-pilled their whole life and now we want to shake them and bring them up to speed about we need to have the collective consciousness on board with this before we can do anything and I said well I think that's a great idea except the approach or reproach is a little antiquated right now
You know, you already have a consortium of patriots that I think are wide awake.
And I don't know what that, you know, I don't know if that's 20, 30, 40 percent.
I have no idea.
I don't think anybody does.
But it's a hell of a lot more than two years ago, you know, since the 2020 election.
A lot more people have woke up since that time.
Yeah.
So that being said, I think we've probably reached that apex where we've got enough people that are consciously aware that there's something really wrong going on right now.
And they don't need to be, you know, spoon-fed with codes, shall we say, to try and get them to decipher it.
Just come out and tell us what the hell's going on.
People can handle it.
You know, hell, people are, you know, anticipating aliens to land on the front lawn of Mar-a-Lago at some point in time.
You know, I'm just throwing that out there, you know, but I'm just saying people can handle a hell of a lot more than I think than what the Key White Hat Patriots are giving us credit for itself.
You know, I'm reminded that Juan said, leading up to the fall, he said very specifically, he gave us very specific timelines and dates in October, especially October 29th.
Certain things were supposed to culminate by then.
He also stated that arrest warrants were signed, the ink is dried, and that, you know, Trump was supposed to have been arrested like three different times during the month of November.
Well, those times come and go.
But there's no explanation.
It's just like, well, it didn't happen because something changed.
Something changed.
Something always changes, right?
So, this is where people are starting to get frustrated because we know there's something going on.
You know, the shadow government that's running everything right now that's causing all the hardships that's taking place.
Equally, we know there's a parallel government that's going on that we hope White Hats are in charge of that.
You know, we see little blurbs of things, like especially in the last several weeks, what's going on with Twitter.
Like you said, the information or revelations being given to us via Twitter, that's nothing new.
We already knew this shit was going on.
We may not know exactly detail to detail, but we already knew this stuff was going on behind the scenes.
And it hasn't changed anything.
I don't think it's actually woken anybody up quite honestly, you know, because the people that are asleep, they're still watching Fox News and NBC and stuff like that.
They're not going to alternative media sources like us or alternative channels to gather that information.
They're just not there yet.
And that's who they think they're targeting.
But I think it's falling on deaf ears to a degree because it's not Doing what it needs to do.
And this is part of what you were saying.
This is the old way that they're trying to still do things.
The enemy changes its tactics all the time.
All the time.
Right?
So why are we not pivoting to change our tactics along with the enemy?
I remember S.P.
Anon said probably midway November.
He talked about how the White Hats purposely provide disinformation to truthers You know, in their channels, because this is one way that they do a litmus test to test who they can trust and who they can't trust.
Sadly, what happens is a lot of these operations that are being planned, you know, you get these truthers It's all about subscription.
It's all about sensationalism.
It's all about making a quick buck off of their audience.
So as soon as they hear some legitimate Intel, BAM!
They blast it.
They just blast it out there, not realizing that maybe that information has compromised a very important operation.
And now the white hats have to call an audible.
Again, this is the ping pong that's going back and forth.
You know, you talk about the AI.
This is kind of a new concept to certain truthers.
You know, there is AI going on and there's I believe there's multiple AIs that are taking place.
I believe the good guys have an AI and the dark side has multiple AIs as far as I know.
And so they're battling each other right now, right?
Trying to figure out who's going to win this battle because the AI has already got this quantified and figured out how this is all going to play out.
We're just pivoting to that trying to I guess figure out how we're going to adjust to that.
I don't know.
I'm just a little concerned and I'm concerned with this Kerry.
So Trump came out and I listened to his 15 minute speech today on freedom of information, our ability to talk and things of that nature.
Today is a very poignant date.
It's December 15th.
So there's very significant things that have happened on December 15th in this country's history.
All right.
And so I can see how he's using that to embolden what potentially could happen here.
I don't really understand the fact of coming out with digital trading cards, because I know people are saying to me that, well, if you're somebody that's a crypto investor, I'm not a crypto investor, but they're saying you're going to be able to utilize this.
This is all playing into Jasara and Nasara and things of that nature as well.
I'm like, okay, so it seems to me we can take ad liberties and make something into something that's really not there, but because we have this hopium of certain things, how we want it to, the outcome of how we want it to transpire, we're going to make that narrative fit into that, you know, even though there might not be any legitimacy there.
It might just be at face value that, you know, he's probably raising money for his campaign.
You know, I mean, I don't know.
It's but you know, let's let's I mean, I know I don't I've done a lot of talking in the last few days and stuff.
So I don't want to you know, kind of like go into a tangent here, but I do want to say that what we're talking about here is look he said when I'm inaugurated and then he said later in the thing when I'm president.
And I'm thinking, but you are president.
This is driving me crazy.
Okay.
I am too tired of this.
Okay.
He's president.
He never stepped down.
Even Juan has made that clear.
I think S.G.
Anon has made that clear.
And they're the two main spokespeople.
I think Charlie Ward's made that clear.
Simon Parks, blah, blah.
And so, you know, and, and, you know, and, you know, knows so, and we know he's commander in chief.
We know one said that, like I've said in a video, you know, I mean, he's, he must've said that about 50 times that he, you know, Trump right after Biden was sworn in, in March, the military re sworn in.
Donald Trump as commander-in-chief.
And he, you know, like I said in Minden, he actually said he has the codes, not Biden.
Okay, so end of story.
Now, why is this not front page news?
This is insane.
This game, this Biden fake show, it's like out of date already.
It's done already.
You know, it's kind of like you tell a joke and people get it and then like you need to move on, right?
You can't keep telling the same joke and think it's going to be funny or interesting or whatever.
It's insane.
Now, they think, maybe they think every day that some new, you know, newbies come along.
But really seriously, I haven't done this and I don't know that it's even possible to do, but I know an AI could do it.
If you actually look at our following over the last year or two, I would wager that most of our followings have stayed more or less the same.
I don't think they've gone through the roof suddenly with newbies jumping on board.
I do have people come on board and people who subscribe to my channel, you know, they're paying $3 a month for videos that, you know, it's just keeping me alive.
Um, but you know what I'm saying?
It's like, what are we doing?
Playing along with a play that we know already is fake.
And then, and then Trump will come out and say, you know, These people have to stop what they're doing.
Biden has to stop what he's doing.
But my understanding is that at this late in the game, Trump is in charge of Biden.
And I've even heard it said that he's in charge of Biden.
How do you get away?
He's being allowed to do what he wants.
Right, right.
How do you get away with that?
Okay, with standing behind somebody who you're, like, is your puppet, you know, at this point, maybe he wasn't your puppet even in the beginning, but he was the CCP's puppet, but now he's your puppet, and you're still letting him do crazy things, say crazy things, and get away with it.
This, you know, it's just like, this is just, this game of smoke and mirrors and you know that this thing person is not who they say they are and that one's a clone and you know the ones on the plane that i just described that phil was driving they all have they all have uh doubles or clones out there okay and there is a clone center for those who don't know right under guantanamo Very convenient, okay?
So wrap your mind around that.
And yeah, sure, cloning is difficult, but they do it, and they do use doubles a whole hell of a lot.
I realize that.
So...
What I'm saying here is, why is this?
Don't you think?
Look, we're talking to each other, okay?
Just straight.
You and I are not deceived by this bullshit, right?
We have audiences.
We know people.
We talk to people.
People are writing to us every day.
Nobody's deceived anymore.
This game, it's like the game is over.
Whatever you use to do your military operations, your facade, you're hiding behind.
It's not working, okay?
If it ever worked, okay, that we could maybe discuss.
But, you know, again, how does the future look if they continue to pretend that they're hiding?
You know, the facades are just laughable.
You know, they're not even convincing in any way.
What do you say to that?
Well, that's exactly what I talk about a lot of the times on my channel, is these facades that they're trying to keep up.
For what reason?
It makes no logical sense in my mind to allow our country to dwindle as far as it's dwindling, become a banana republic almost at this point in time.
I mean, all right, so here we got an issue on our border.
If the White Hats were truly in effing charge, our southern borders right now wouldn't be leaking.
You got December 21st where Title 42 goes bye-bye, and you got 30,000 potential illegal aliens coming across your border on a daily basis, you know.
That'll wake a lot of freaking people up next thing you know, you know?
So why are they allowing that to happen?
It makes no sense why they're allowing that to happen.
It's the same thing with Ukraine.
You and I know Ukraine is the last stronghold of the cabal, of the Illuminati, the Qaziri Mafia, whatever you want to call it, the Draco Reptilians.
It's the last stronghold.
So why are they prolonging that when Russia can go in there and do what they need to do as quickly as they need to do it and be done with that so we can move on?
That makes no sense either.
Same thing with the Biden laptop shit, right?
We have, we know what's on the freaking laptop.
I just shared the 664 page report to my wall, you know, so we know what's on the freaking laptop.
Why keep it a secret anymore as well?
I really believe at a conscious level, the people that are awake, they're awake.
And I tell people all the time, I genuinely believe those that are awake now, in this timeline, they're meant to be awoke.
Those that are not, it's not meant for them at this point in time.
So why prolong it?
We have enough people To do what we need to do at this point in juncture right now.
But then again, it still comes down to the fact that you have certain figureheads in this movement.
Like, I know every three or four months, Kerry, you know this is true.
Every three or four months, some new darling comes into the Patriot movement and infuses new energy and stimulant into the Patriot movement.
And then after three months, they kind of fizzle out because they're old news.
So they bring somebody else in to pump us up again, right?
But nothing ever moves forward.
Nothing ever happens from that at all.
All they do is regurgitate the same information we've already heard from many other channels already over and over and over again in the hopes that they might tickle somebody else's ear.
It's, it's what you call churn.
Uh, that's, you know, they've been becoming victims of this.
And I've said that, uh, I I've actually said, you know, texted it to Juan, stop repeating yourself on every channel.
It's like, they don't, this, you see what I'm saying?
It's like, if you didn't grow up with the internet, maybe your brain doesn't realize that, you know, People switch channels in regular TV like maniacs.
What do you think they do on the internet?
You know, they listen to us, they listen to someone else, they listen to that kind of, you know, so they're jumping all around.
They're getting the same message.
It's useless to go out with another supposed interviewer who's not really interviewing, right?
They're not asking any hard questions.
They're all just like good little puppies, and they do what they're told, and they say what they're told, and they don't rock the boat, and they say some religious, you know, pablum, right?
To keep masses quiet and applaud Juan or applaud SG, you know?
How wonderful they are, but nobody gets the wiser.
It's just, it's become, you know, in other words, what we're talking about is going from one, you know, group of liars, which is the, you know, the cabal, to another group who's basically now doing the same thing and trying to say that they have journalists.
They don't have journalists.
I'm here to attest.
They do not have, they don't have you.
They don't have me.
They don't have the real ones out there that, you know, would not put up with this.
But you know what happens if we did do, you know, any kind of real questioning?
They'd be gone like smoke.
Okay?
Okay?
Juan would never return like he would never return to... Well, that's like right now.
Exactly.
That's right.
I like you.
I have questions.
And so I question things.
When I see something, I'm going to say something about it and go, what the hell's going on?
You know?
That's why I've been blackballed like you have by certain truthers.
They don't want to touch me because they know if I see something, I'm going to call them out on it, and I have no problem calling them out openly about it.
So, let's just avoid certain individuals like you and me.
I mean, I listened to the interview you did with Juan a couple years ago, and you just asked him a couple questions, and he hemmed and hawed, he got uncomfortable, and that was it.
I said, he's never going to go back on her show again because you ask him questions nobody else would ask, but they needed to be asked.
It's the same thing with Derek Johnson.
Derek came on my show, he came on your show a couple weeks after my show, and when I started asking Derek some depth, I wanted to really test his knowledge of being a truther.
It's he's scripted.
He's scripted as I'm sorry to say it.
He has a script that he's utilizing that, you know, he's put all this together, which is great.
But when you start measuring that depth of organic knowledge about certain rabbit holes that are imperative.
He never came back.
He never came back.
You see him get agitated.
He starts fidgeting.
And so he tries to go back onto the script again.
You did that with him as well when you started asking him about, well, how did you get injured?
You know, and I was like, holy shit, you know, and he didn't like that because it's off script.
It makes him feel uncomfortable.
So I do the same thing.
He never came back.
He never came back.
I've asked him.
I know.
He won't.
I know.
This is the thing, you know, and bless the people that do come back.
You know, actually I'll be doing a show tomorrow with Nino.
You know, bless his heart.
At least he's still out there punching, you know.
He is a fighter and he's sticking with the, you know, the deal.
So, he is very controlled.
He has to be, okay?
He's been brought into Juan's confidence.
I get that.
And that's a beautiful thing, okay?
I have no quarrel with that.
You know, you got to trust who you want to trust and maybe not who you don't want to trust or whatever.
People like us, you know, like I keep putting the quotes of Kennedy, John F. Kennedy, out there because I feel like that's, in essence, that's, you know, if you want to know what Trump's speech, where it kind of stemmed from was Kennedy's speech.
Kennedy said, you don't have an inquiry.
Yes.
Press.
You don't have a republic.
You do not have freedom.
Okay.
You don't have freedom of speech.
You don't have a republic.
You don't have a country.
So this is what we're talking about.
All right.
But the, I don't know, but the white hats, at least at the moment, don't drink that Kool-Aid.
Okay.
Okay, they don't they don't want to live like that at the moment.
They're maybe their rationale is over fighting a war.
So we can't listen to journalists.
I don't know what it is, you know, but I think we could have a much more spirited interesting discussion if we could actually talk to these people who say they're running things behind the scenes.
All right.
I agree with you.
You know, one of the mantras that's been touted out there for a few years now is the Jasara Nasara RV, right?
Everybody is hinging on those precepts to come into existence.
And I tell people all the time, You're counting on something that I don't believe is going to happen the way you think it's going to happen.
I said because at the end of the day, you don't know what version you're going to get.
Because it has to culminate as a financial reset.
And that word reset has a negative connotation that has never benefited humanity as far as I've known.
But people want it nonetheless.
They don't care.
And so I ask my followers and my channels, and I ask them, what if the ultimate test is this, Kerry?
What if you get to decide whether you want to participate in the Jasara Nasara RRB, which is a third dimension, lower density concept, right?
Monetary system by the cabal.
They created this system.
Or you can ascend by foregoing that.
What if your ability to participate in the Great Ascension event is hinged on whether or not you want to stay within that third dimension consciousness vibration and receive your quote-unquote do as you think it is or you go forward?
That would be the ultimate test and that's what I'm trying to prepare my followers with is to get their mind into ascension mode.
Why don't we have enough truthers like you and I that really are talking about ascension?
Not just using it as a mere cliché, but I mean going into depth, teaching people how to prepare for ascension itself.
Preparing yourself by understanding your divine origins.
You know, I tell people, you guys are doing a disservice if you're not reading Ashiana Deans, some of her material, you guys are missing out.
I mean, that's just to get started.
You know, I mean, there's so many levels to this movement, right?
But people are stuck at what is owed to me, what is owed to me, you know?
I don't get that at all.
I don't get it either.
I don't get it.
It's this entitlement.
I don't know why they're so fixated.
I mean, they're like fixated on that.
Like, like, why don't rice?
I mean, and maybe that's just the nature of the beast because, you know, the beast has always had control of the money.
So the one thing that they want is money.
um you know the yes the masses or whatever but uh and i i don't actually like i mean this is just maybe a side issue but i know that the white hats have tons of money i know they get tons of financing you know from their republican supporters and all that kind of stuff you know the rhinos and all that um i know that they have these um you know access to
What you might even say is, you know, if you're going up against the deep state, you're going up against that gold regime that's been commandeering gold on our planet for eons, okay?
And I'm not going to say too much about it because I've been given some information about that kind of thing that I'm not supposed to, you know, I can't, I'm not at liberty to release.
But I can say that, in essence, I believe that the White Hats and Trump have plenty of money.
Okay, they have plenty of money behind them, but I get emails from Trump every single day asking for money.
I'm totally behind Trump, 100%, but I'm not going to give him money, okay?
Because he has way more money than I do, you know?
I'm just surviving over here.
It just seems insane to me that we don't get a straight story.
These people, I mean, we were not really talking about this, but You see, if you're dealing with AI and you're looking at the future, then you've got a lot of knowledge, all right?
Now, I don't expect them to spill all their knowledge, but this is the thing that you just said earlier.
Look, both sides have AI.
Both sides have quantum computers access to that.
What's interesting about that whole thing is, don't you think that two quantum computers probably end up with the exact same answer to the question?
I mean, what's the likelihood that they're actually going to have a different answer from, you know, they're quantum computers.
If you want to add 6 and 6, I'll tell you, it's 12, you know, you can't get a different answer.
You know what I'm saying?
In other words, so...
Why is it they, White Hats, have this big thing about, woo, it's war, and woo, it's secrecy, and woo, it's operations?
Do you seriously think that if your quantum computer is telling you to go, you know, I don't know, down the road and to the right, don't you think the other quantum computer who's being asked, what are they going to do, that's going to say they're going down the road to the right?
I mean, hello, it's, I don't think it's rocket science to think that.
What would you say?
Oh, I absolutely agree with that, because the fact is, so this takes, like the show that you did with Gene Decode the other day at Patriot Underground, you guys really did a deep dive into the AI technology.
Not very many of us understand it.
I understand exactly what you're talking about.
I know all about the Animus AI, where that came from, how long that's been in existence.
And the fact is, these AIs, they take on their own synergy, if you will, because they start realizing we're a hell of a lot smarter than our creators that actually created us, as a matter of fact.
So how do you control them, right?
I know that each of these, shall we say, galactic races, they create AI systems because of the system and they're traveling in a system and they're, you know, civilian or civilization, shall we say.
So AI goes way, way back.
It's not a new concept.
It's just fairly new to us human beings here.
And so it's like Project Looking Glass, you know, who came up And who came on to that technology first?
Well, it was the dark ones, right?
They came upon that.
That's how they've been able to manipulate timelines and the events in those timelines so that the outcome favors them always.
So the good guys didn't come upon that until just some years ago, and then they figured out that's how they were getting their asses handed to them by the dark ones.
So then they jumped on board, and they started utilizing the same technology, doing the same thing, That the Dark Ones were doing as well, you know?
So this is where it gets dicey, right?
This is where it gets dicey of, again, if you are the White Hats, when are you held culpable for allowing more suffering to keep continuing to take place All under the guise of eventually, at some point in time, when you determine and decide enough is enough, that we've come to this moment of death, as Juan calls it, you know, that we have to come to this near-death experience.
Well, why do we?
I don't get that.
Why do we have to come to a near-death experience, you know, because we might wake up a couple more people if we get to that point?
And what?
You're going to let Putin unleash a nuke?
Why would you do that?
I mean, why would you do that?
Would you really do that under teach people a lesson?
Wake people up?
I mean, you cannot use this rationale that, you know, in a sense that's playing God.
That's saying we're going to wake you up whether you like it or not.
All right, that's what they're saying.
Well, that is not.
First of all, if you understand consciousness and humans, That's not the way to do it, okay?
That's absolutely not going to work in the long run.
I don't care, because I know that Juan said, and even in a recent interview with, I think it was with Nino recently, he said they've reached the 80%.
They have a solid 80% at this point.
That's what they think, okay?
That's right.
I appreciate that, but...
If you ask me, when I go out and I talk to people all the time, you know, every day, people write to me, blah, blah, blah, and a lot of them are on this side, right?
They want all of this stuff that the White Hats are selling, but they know all their friends and families are like, you're crazy, you know?
This is not happening, okay?
I haven't seen, you know, really, I haven't seen anyone around me change their stance from one One place on that line to the other, okay?
No friends, no family, no nothing.
If they're on one side, they're still on one side.
And I know some very intelligent people.
They haven't changed, okay?
So, who's changing?
Where do they get their 80%?
Where do they, you know, God forbid, they're really like... Here's how I can prove.
What?
Yeah, here's how I can prove that not 80% of the people are awake.
Because if you have, as we're told, we have roughly 8 billion people on this planet.
So we're told that approximately 5 billion people got the job, right?
That's what we're told.
And then Some of those got the boosters, two or three boosters, on top of that.
So, how do you expect me to believe that you've gotten 40-60% more people to wake the fuck up, sorry, but that's really it, when they're the ones who went out there and got the jab on top of that?
That, there's no way, that doesn't work like that.
Because if they're in fear of this fake pandemic to go cause them to receive the jab, there's no way that they're awoke.
There's no way they're going to be in a position at a conscious level to finally go, oh my god, you know what?
There's this master plan out there to do my demise because they wouldn't go get the jab if they actually knew that and felt that.
It makes no sense that we're at that number because, again, there's no way to quantify that.
As I said, I watched Nino when he was with Juan two days ago, and he was really frustrated.
He has questions reminding Juan, you know, hey, you've said these things, and now you're backtracking on that.
Now you're telling us to put all of our eggs into the Supreme Court.
That SCOTUS is going to save the Republic if we send in two million letters.
It's going to put enough pressure on the Supreme Court that they'll feel, oh yeah, I'm protected.
I can make this judgment.
Bullshit!
Because what happens when the Supreme Court has denied every single case?
Thank you.
That came its way in the last two, three years.
And how many stolen elections have we got now?
We've got the primaries, we've got 2020, and we've got 2022.
So how many more stolen elections do you need?
And let me ask you, because I don't know, you know, what your background is exactly in this area, but Do you understand that they have said, point blank to the American people, that they have blockchain evidence of the steal?
Do you understand what blockchain is?
That's like, you know, that's basically irrevocable.
You don't just fuck around with that.
You either have it or you don't.
Robert David Steele, before he died or went underground, you know, basically said, we have it all.
And he said that two, three years ago, whenever McKenna came in.
Keep track of how many years we're going by now.
So, okay.
And then I want to ask you another question.
I don't know if you have a military background.
I know you have law enforcement, but I don't know if you have long, you know, military in your family, but you know, and I know that a lot of the military, a lot of them have had to quit rather than get the jab, right?
Yes.
Someone just wrote to me and said, how can we have a white hat military?
If all the, if all the people that were good guys quit, Not to get the jab.
It's simply this.
So the documentary that came out last month from Stu Peters, you had two flight surgeons testify in front of state legislatures in Alaska and in Idaho.
They said unequivocally within the next five years we will not have a ready Standing ready army to fight for us at the rate that they're dying or becoming permanently incapacitated from disabilities.
Our standing army is gone.
It's going by the wayside.
Now, I know a little bit about special operations communities.
All right.
It takes years to train an individual at that level.
Years.
You can't put somebody in there and fill a vacuum hole because we already know that our men and women of valor in the operators community, they said, I ain't putting that shit in my body.
See you later.
All right.
So now you have a vacuum hole of tens of thousands of operators.
You don't put somebody in there within a year or two to fill those vacancies.
It doesn't work like that.
It doesn't work like that.
It takes years to train somebody up to a certain level to receive that return on investment, shall we say.
And that's the crisis that we have right now.
We have a massive crisis in this country right now.
And when you even asked about this because Last night I shared on my channel, you know, warfare.
We talk about warfare and you've talked about this where I'm going.
This next level warfare, we actually have special operating units throughout the world, not just in the United States.
We have these what we call psi warriors, right?
These super soldiers that have the ability, they're being trained via SRA, trained to actually do astral projecting warfare.
They are able to access astral projection warfare and be able to, you know, carry out operations, shall we say, without having to leave where they're at itself.
And that is a growing number that is happening right now because the Dark Brotherhood, if you will, we can call it the Black Sun, whatever names you want to call it, it doesn't really matter.
I don't see... there used to be a line between the deep state military and the white hat military.
There, you know, there used to be a very distinctive line.
That line is fairly well blurry now.
That line is fairly well blurry because you already know, like I do, if you are a military personnel that has aspirations to rise in rank, Most of the time, you belong to the brotherhood.
That's the way you rise to the rank.
It's through the brotherhood itself.
It's the same thing in law enforcement.
You have aspirations in law enforcement, you got to belong to the brotherhood.
There's no ifs, ands, buts, or about it.
You know, I was sharing information about the, oh, well, there's certain things I can't go into.
I'm sorry.
Just because, the fact is, people need to know That we are at such a critical juncture right now in our nation, right now, and waiting for our military to come in and save the day.
It's not, we're not in a good situation.
We're not in a good situation.
You know, you have the shallow government who hates our military.
Yeah.
I want to ask you.
What's that?
Are you saying that we're in not in a good situation because our military is fragmented and split?
In other words, you know, you've got some white hats that are hiding the fact they're white hats.
They're playing darks the dark side.
You've got the dark side people that are may be wanting to change sides, but maybe they can't do it because of this that and the other.
In other words, when you say that we're not in a good place.
What are you talking about?
Are you talking about, like, I don't have enough military.
I have a few military people that contact me, but not enough to really give me a feel for what's going on in the ranks of the military.
So what would you say?
Well, the military has been infiltrated, obviously, at the highest levels, all right?
All right, so when we talk about transhumanism, transgenderism, you know, we have these situations which is permeated throughout our military as well.
So we have all of these external, shall we say, satanic, luciferian, dark forces, energies, that are infiltrating all different levels within our military itself, all right?
You know, and it's a sad situation because most of our men and women of valor, I should say the ones modern day, not the ones like coming back from because you and I are probably fairly close in age or something to that effect.
So these men and women today, they don't join because they want to serve in the capacity to defend the Constitution because they have benevolent purposes.
They're bought and paid for, right?
They're giving bonuses, they're giving carrots dangled in front of them to join, and then that's taken away from them immediately.
And so you have these men and women who serve in valor who are scarred.
They serve multiple tours, they have these deep scars within them, and they're kicked to the curb.
So our own government, who's supposed to be helping them, they don't.
And here's the sad thing that's even worse.
You know, in our movement, Carrie, You know, part of our movement has used this mantra.
It's all about the children, save the children, save the children, save the children, which we should be saving children, but there's a dirty secret too.
But then, you know, our country, nobody wants to talk about, you know, we have a homeless problem in our country with homeless veterans.
All right, they've been beat up, abused and put away and discarded, right?
We have 70,000 homeless veterans a night in this country.
We have 19 million veterans in this country.
Only about 9 million have registered with the Veterans Affairs.
So half have not registered because they know the system is screwed against them, set up against them.
These men and women who are homeless are victimized, not just because they're homeless, but they're victimized because these men and women are in the shadows of our communities.
And nobody's keeping tabs on them.
And because nobody is keeping tabs on them, they disappear.
These men and women, these children of God, are trafficked just like children are.
They're experimented on just like children are.
Their organs are being harvested just like children are.
They are being SRA'd just like children are.
Alright?
We have a really dirty, dirty, dark secret in this country, and nobody wants to talk about this.
They just want to focus on the children.
And what's fascinating is a lot of these truthers who use that cliché, because it is a cliché now, more than anything, none of them have done a damn thing to actually help really any children, other than they've made some t-shirts and some hats, and they've made money off of that cliché, for the most part.
Right?
We have a bigger problem in our country and that's what I'm focusing on as our homeless veterans to try and get them shelter so they don't continue to be victimized in these most heinous, satanic ways.
Yeah, I agree 100%.
And I think it's an incredible crime.
My understanding was that Trump did try to do something for the veterans, at least when he was in office.
Well, he's still in office.
This is where I kind of back things up again.
And I want to say, we cannot let these things continue, okay?
They, you know, on their watch, they cannot, in other words, like you're talking to culpability, you can't go rescue children on the one hand and, and leave your veterans hanging out to dry on the other.
Do you know what I mean?
I'm just talking on a karmic.
You want to talk about Ascension.
You want to talk the responsibility.
See, when you are responsible, when you have gotten involved in, in trying to save the world, there's a huge responsibility there, right?
And at the same time, you want to lie to the people who support you.
This is sort of insane.
So, you know what I'm saying?
That's ass backwards.
So, this is only the tip of the iceberg.
Why are you letting, okay, you know, I don't know, you know, where you're at with this, but I see The, you know, the gray human hybrids took their breeding program down to South America, Central America and Mexico.
Those people that are.
You know, chafing at the bit to come into this country and in many ways being shipped in.
And as you say, you know, in a couple of days it's going to be even worse.
In other words, that's what they are by and large.
The ones that are, you know, healthy enough and young enough to be, you know, literally walking across the border or, you know, however they're transported across.
You know what I'm saying?
In other words, I see an X-Men scenario being set up in this country.
Do you understand, you yourself, we are not quantum computers, and yet if you look to the future, that is going to be a battle.
You are going to be battling these gray human hybrids.
I'm sorry, but you are.
And this is being set up for the future.
So if Trump is letting Biden, because he wants to expose Biden and expose the bad guys, instead of just telling you, you know, these guys got in with CCP votes and the Dominion machines were all owned by them.
I mean, it's so fucking obvious already, right?
But nonetheless, you see, I also wrote this article called Playing to the Lowest Common Denominator.
That's what's the problem, okay?
I read it.
If you think your audience are stupid, if you think your audience are, you know, like barely one click above, you know, consciousness, I mean, in other words, what are you, who are you really talking to?
And where do you intend to get when they're not listening anyway?
It's kind of, you know, I see things in the classroom, right?
Have you ever been, you know, because I don't know, you know, but in class I always knew a lot and I always knew the bullshit, right?
But of course, sure, some of the kids in the back of the room didn't know zip, but if you run the whole class based on the kids in the back of the room, You go nowhere, right?
It stays in some remedial, boring, you know, and all the intelligent kids just tune out.
They don't want to hear it anymore, right?
So, I think about anything but school, right?
I never did homework.
You know, I just, it just, the whole thing was so boring, right?
So they play to the lowest common denominator.
That's what advertisers do.
That's why we have ads like we do.
Ads that depict humans like they're, you know, I don't know, like they have one iota above like, I don't know, a 60 whatever IQ kind of thing with the IQ thing is bullshit, but you know what I'm saying?
In other words, this is not smart.
This is not, I don't think a quantum quantum computer would say, you know, unless it was taken over by the dark side.
Look, play to the stupidest out in your midst, you know.
Do everything for your stupid people and maybe they'll wake up.
They're not gonna, they're not gonna wake up.
These people are not waking up.
So yeah, so I mean 100%.
The border cannot, in other words, it's kind of interesting because we live on a On a timeline, it's like moving ahead, right?
Life is moving ahead really rapidly.
These people coming across the border, they're going to come in and live their lives.
They're going to become part of, you know, merge into our population.
In, you know, you know, the number of Ukraine, and I was just listening to something that was saying, there's a bunch of soldiers that are actually going into the UK.
So the UK is basically giving carte blanche to the Ukrainian So-called refugees, a lot of whom are probably Nazis.
I mean, I'm sorry to say, I don't like, I don't, you know, I don't know what they do in their homes and I don't know, you know, all that stuff, but there's probably a portion of them because we know there's a large, large population in Ukraine that is Khazarian.
They want to sacrifice babies and all this kind of crazy shit.
So, you know, they're going into UK.
Okay just sailing across the border and then on top of it mixed in with them just like mixed in with our border right are going to be what we kind of are talking about like super soldiers soldiers that have been outfitted to by the dark side to be you know what we call sleeping um assassins in essence so this is This is working towards the future.
This is where we're going, okay?
So you think things are hunky-dory right now, and behind the scenes the White Hats are doing lots of good things, but this thing is moving along.
It's too, you know, it's not... we're not keeping up, I guess is what I'm saying.
And I don't think these quantum computers are helping, because if the way you're behaving is by obeying those computers, They're just, as far as I'm concerned, you know, dazed and confused.
Or they're lying outright.
Well, a thousand percent.
A thousand percent.
Because, you know, so we're told that there's this great restoration master plan to save the entire planet.
And in that master plan, We have certain individuals that are controlling certain things within this master plan, then you have their underlings and so forth like that.
This chain of command that falls all the way down to, you know, us in this community per se.
All right, so what happens is these quantum computers, as I said, They take on their own ability to guide, you know, civilization, plain and simple.
And I believe the White Hats have probably lost control of these things on their side.
I think they're so advanced and they probably didn't count on how advanced this AI technology was, you know.
That it probably got out from underneath them.
I think that's exactly what's happening right now.
So then, you know, we rely on our Galactic Guardians, as I call them, to come and help us and assist us, you know?
And that's great, but as I told, you know, my audience last night, even these Galactic Guardians, Pleiadians, Andromedans, whatever they are, whatever race they come from, We know they're here.
We know they're helping in Earth Alliance.
We know they're participating in Solar Warden.
We know all these certain aspects of it.
But they actually, the benevolent ones, you know, they adhere to, you know, these cosmic laws.
They're very strict about like the Law of One, the Law of Free Will, the Law of Consent.
They don't budge on that.
And I'm told That they're waiting as much on us, humans, to quit allowing ourselves to be caught in these traps and give consent to be enslaved over and over and over again, itself.
That's what I'm being told, you know, that we are the ones—we've been the plan.
We're the plan.
We've been the plan, you know.
We have a certain segment of Christians that are waiting for who they call Jesus Christ's return, right?
We're the return of Christ.
We're the Christ consciousness.
We've been that the whole time.
We need to activate these divine strands of the DNA that's inside of us already, that's been dormant for thousands and thousands of years.
First and foremost, we are the Christ return itself.
It's in every single one of us.
But because we're so divided in our dogmas and in our belief systems, And programming, because like you said, marketing, it is geared towards the lowest common denominator up here.
That's why it's called programming, channeling, you know, television.
I mean, if we're crying out loud, there's something, it's very important to understand words.
Words have absolute consequences and not understanding what words have had grave consequences, as is humanity's enslaved right now, right?
So we're trying to help restore our sovereignty.
As we came here, God created us with sovereignty.
But somewhere along the way, humanity lost So right now we're looking for a political savior, a military savior, a financial savior to come save the day.
They're not coming to save the day, folks, but they don't want to hear that.
They want somebody to come save their ass instead of rolling up their sleeves and saving their own ass.
That's part of our function and purpose in being here, is to do that for ourselves and then help people along the way to try and do the same thing as well, while contending with the Draco reptilians and all these other malevolent races that have been here for a very long time.
They're not giving up their stronghold on us, not anytime soon.
And part of the problem is this conversation that we're having right here.
They won't have this conversation.
The so-called, you know, the so-called saviors, you know, 107 and SG Anon, they're not going to have this conversation with us, all right?
We're doing this video on purpose, basically saying, you know, wake up people, let's have this conversation.
Those guys don't want to participate.
Okay, that's their right.
But the reality is, if people are working for you, this is part of my issue.
Is that these people are part of our, you know, the government we want to have, let's say, okay?
So that means, you know, Trump and all the people that work with Trump and Juan and all of this.
And those military as well.
They're working for us, okay?
You know what I'm saying?
In other words, we can't sit here and just let them roll on.
and lie to us any more than we can let the dark side roll on and lie to us.
It can't be like that, okay?
That's the whole point.
We need to stop this train and we need to get, you know, real dialogue between the people and not the exclusive, you know, journalists that you just, you know, I said early on about Trump.
When he went to Mar-a-Lago and reestablished what is, in essence, COG, he could have invited every alternative journalist, you know, into that place, which is basically his base of operations for the alternative, you know, world, for the next administration, okay, that we all, in theory, want, right?
But even then, he wouldn't do it, okay?
Even then, they only have their little in-club, right?
Their little rhino, you know, rhino in-club.
And they're, you know, they're mainstream journalists that they'll talk to.
In other words, there's a pecking order.
And it's still the same pecking order that I have seen my whole life long, okay?
As a journalist, as an investigator.
When you are too...
Real.
When you are, you know, questioning everything, basically, you're not invited in.
Okay, so already we have a pattern.
Even if Trump gets into power again, even though he's supposed to be the power behind the scenes now, what I worry about is that this pattern of behavior that has already exclusivity and Inclusivity.
In other words, they're not going to be inclusive.
They're going to be exclusive.
They're not, if they're not doing it now, see, you know, there's kind of like a pattern, a relationship established.
If they're not doing it now, do you think they're really going to change sometime soon?
If they didn't open the Biden laptop, you know, For all to see.
You want to wake people up?
Open the damn thing.
Expose Biden.
Expose his son.
Get rid of these people.
What are you doing?
What is going on?
You want to talk about how the media collude together and find that fascinating and so radical?
You know, this has been going on our whole lives, okay?
From Walter Conquite, or however you say his name, you know what I'm saying?
We've known about the Mockingbird media.
We don't need a demonstration of how they've lied to us.
They lied.
They're still lying on the TV.
And I, you know, I didn't even watch TV.
I just, that kind of TV, I don't watch.
But recently I thought, well, because I have this friend who kind of like Gives me these headlines that they have.
And I'm always flabbergasted by the lies.
And I thought, well, I better start listening and see what are these crazies out there really saying.
And it fascinates me that you don't see a wrinkle in their dialogue.
Like, whatever the White Hats are doing behind the scenes, you don't see.
It's just smooth as silk out there.
They are operating exactly How they always have with their stock market, this and there, this, you know, there are lying, lying, lying all day long to the people.
And yet you expect to change something.
I would expect to see like some kind of wrinkle out there.
I don't see it.
Well, you would think absolutely.
Well, you know, it's the light to dark, dark delight paradigm, right?
So what we have here is a segment in our country, right?
We have this segment of these Patriot Truthers who they're like in this rut where they support certain figureheads in this movement and Even though, I'm not kidding, I'm not bullshitting you here.
About a month ago, I about fell out of my seat when I was doing a show, and I opened it up to a Q&A session, and this, you know, sister in this movement, she said, you know, ML, I listen to some of these other truthers out there, and I know they're lying to me.
It's in the back of my mind.
I know they're lying to me, but because it makes me feel good, I'm willing to be lied to.
Because it makes me feel good.
Because when I come to your show, you're telling me the truth, and I know you're telling me the truth, but it doesn't make me feel good, because then I'm forced to have to make a decision and do something.
And so I'm being told that they would rather be lied to, misled, so they can stay inclusive within that little community of that platform or channel.
Because, you know, a bunch of these truthers, I use that term loosely, You know, they use their power to, you know, kick people to the curb.
They're subscribers to the curb.
If you, you know, question them or if you bring in a different theory or thought, you know, you get kicked to the curb.
You get banned from their channels.
Well, that's bullshit.
But yet, these people turn around and say they're all about the First Amendment, the right for speech.
We should exercise that.
We should protect those things.
But yet, they're the very first ones to sit there and kick to the curb their followers at the same time.
But this is a systemic problem in the patriot movement right now, as people want to be soothsayed because it pacifies them, it makes them feel good.
And they know in the back of their mind, it's bullshit.
It's absolute bullshit.
But you know what?
Because they're part of the collective hive consciousness, I guess, then they're gonna stay in that.
And that's the real problem that we have right there is getting people to go, you know what?
I'm not putting up with this shit anymore.
I don't want to be lied to anymore.
I, you know, that's I think the real problem or battle that we have, right?
Is getting people to say that I'm enough and when we do that, then that's going to roll appeal to Trump.
And to those people as well, but as long as nobody post Trump or.
People connected Trump, like, let's say 1 and stuff like that.
It's just going to continue on.
They're just going to continue on and continue on doing what they can get away with.
And that puts things into question.
That absolutely puts things into question because then are they any better?
Then the deep state that we're trying to fight against and expose.
Not so much.
Not so much.
And nobody wants to talk about that.
Nobody wants to be open to that because, oh shit, then that means we really got to have a candid conversation because then that means we actually have to come up with some solutions on top of that as well.
Right.
You know?
Well, I mean, I really appreciate this conversation with you.
I'm not going to keep us too much longer, you know, because People have short attention spans anyway, but I do want to say that, you know, this is what I did.
I put a call out to the journalists.
I didn't get one journalist writing to me in one of my videos.
I said recently, you know, I just was asking, you know, come on, you guys, we need to band together and then go and take, you know, us alternative journalists to one who should be telling Trump, you know, in other words, We're a forum.
You need to talk to us.
Why would you go listen to Congress?
Why would you even go talk to Congress?
You know what I'm saying?
Those people are bought and paid for, okay?
Done.
Juan spends all his time trying to massage those people, okay?
To bring them over to the Trump camp.
That's politics old style, you know?
This is not.
I mean, see, I want people to analyze The way they're doing business.
I want to analyze how our country is operating now.
Not how it's going to be in the future.
Not how it's been in the past.
Now.
Okay?
And I want to talk about this disparity.
Even logical things that don't make sense that we're enduring and I gotta tell you, you know, a lot of people are writing to me since I opened my mouth about this, you know, because I had really just had it and I still am in that space, you know, and these people are not responding.
The journalists out there aren't responding.
They probably want to avoid me like the plague.
You know what I mean?
Because the last thing they want to do is the ones that are the nice little pets.
Juan's little pets.
He has a little pet club, right?
And SG and Nan's little pets.
And by the way, they seem to be the same pets.
It's kind of funny.
But you know what I'm saying?
This is insane.
Okay.
This is, this is just not, this isn't high school.
This isn't, you know, the in club and the out club.
It's, it's just not right.
It's not open.
It's not progressive.
It's playing to the old guard, like you've done forever.
Okay.
I mean, please.
It's just, I don't get it.
I, you know, I have to say something is just wrong about this.
And it's also, you know, you wanted to deceive the people immediately because you thought, okay, right after the 2020 whatever, you swore in Trump, that's the military, did step up like they should do, even though they have the stupid law of war manual telling them to sit around for an hour, for a year.
Sick?
I mean, why am I the only person that realized that that is a sick thing to say, okay?
That that in and of itself would be a traitorous move if our military really did just sit on their hands for a year after we've been invaded, clearly, by the CCP.
I mean, that is, to me, the definition of insanity.
Luckily, okay, they did it in a clandestine way, they didn't tell the American people, but we're two years on from that, and they're still not telling the American people, okay?
Trump is out there saying, when I become president, he's president now!
Why is he lying?
You know, who is he trying to impress?
Think about that.
Who's his audience?
Okay?
Is he playing to the Bidenettes?
Is that it?
That's his audience?
He thinks that's worthwhile?
That's a way to live your life?
Okay, that's the way to campaign for the future?
Is to play to your traitors?
I mean, it's just... What are you doing?
What is going on with this Biden show?
I mean, it's just insane.
And now we hear Pelosi is off to Gitmo.
Well, I hope so.
But keep it quiet again.
Send, you know, some real coded messages that have to be decoded.
And then, you know, Phil goes out on video that has nothing to do with it on the surface.
And halfway through the video, 48 minutes in, as I recall, He suddenly, you know, releases this piece of very important intel that all the Patriots would love to know is true.
But because of the way it's released, it's once again in that land of La La.
Maybe it's true.
Maybe it's not.
Maybe she went to Gitmo already.
Maybe it's the clone this time going to Gitmo.
Who the fuck knows, you know what I'm saying?
What kind of game is this?
This is just insane, okay?
I don't want to, you know, look, I know I'm ranting, but please, I'm giving you the floor.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Well, no, I think we're in one accord here.
Um, and it's not just us, you know, um, I think we need a, uh, we need a spiritual revolution in this country and I'm not talking religious.
I'm talking spiritual.
Because spiritual is inclusive of understanding our worth, our value, our sovereignty.
Because at the end of the day, we have moral obligations to ourselves, to our families, to the communities that we live in itself.
And there's nobody coming to save us from the awful situation that we've allowed ourselves to get into first and foremost, other than Us.
We have help out there, but they're waiting for us.
They're on that sideline waiting for us to be proactive, you know?
And so I believe there are truthers that have been waiting in the shadows, shall we say, just monitoring, monitoring, and I think they're going to come out And they're going to be like us.
They're going to be in one accord with us, voicing their, not just an opinion, but voicing information to really provide absolute truths that validate what we're trying to say, what we've been saying with followers for however long we've been doing this.
That's going to cause this, because there's already a division there in this community itself, and it's getting wider and wider and wider itself.
The problem is, is a lot of people they don't have the money that they used to have a year or two ago that a lot of these truthers have been picking their pockets left and right so they're having to figure out other ways to keep people you know on this line and keep them hook line and sinker you know like you know the alleged information that Mr. Godlewski told people that's why I always use the word allegedly I say it all the time allegedly allegedly allegedly because
Nine times out of ten, it doesn't pan out.
It's not true itself.
So, I think we have an opportunity to actually move forward in this community and revamp the Patriot Truther community itself.
You know, no more of going to these Make America Great events where you're spending thousands of dollars over a weekend, you get pumped up, then you go home and you feel like shit, you're depleted because you have no idea what you're supposed to do once you get back home.
You know, that's what's really systemic in this movement.
People go to these events, and they feel great when they're there, but when they get home, reality still hits them in their face, like, I don't know what the hell I'm supposed to do when I'm here.
Well, alright, so... You know, but see, that's a control mechanism also.
Those rallies that Trump does, these rallies, okay?
Really happens there?
Not much.
Yep.
Okay, I'm sorry.
Yeah, he gives a speech.
No, it's the same mantra.
It's the speech that he gave, you know, 20 minutes ago in another city.
I mean, it's all well and good, but the reality, once in a while he drops some comms, you know, and then people pick up and that's very nice.
But the reality is, you know, it's, that's actually, I mean, I hate to tell you this, but This is old-time politicking.
I mean, that's what it is, okay?
Get people into a stadium, get them, you know, all, you know, putting their energy in, and then as you say, they go home and then what?
Okay?
The last thing they're doing is actually analyzing the situation and actually saying, are we in a better place now than we were six months ago?
Are you still going rah-rah-rah Trump?
What is, what is that?
You know, this is stupid.
You know, it's just like playing this silly game.
It's childish.
Let's, you know, let's up the ante.
Let's raise the bar.
Let's get this thing, you know, this, this country.
On a better path.
And let's do it now.
And let's not wait around another six years for the White Hats to finish their military operations in the dark.
Okay?
I don't care if they have military operations in the dark.
Do them!
But that doesn't stop you from communicating.
On the level we're talking about, okay?
It doesn't stop you from saying, Biden, goodbye.
Get rid of all those people.
You know, if we need to have a revolution, then let's have a revolution.
You know, don't say, oh, well, I kind of want to change the country, but I really don't want to get any, you know, I don't want to sweat over it.
I don't want to have anybody get uncomfortable.
You know, I mean, a death Scenario?
What is this death scenario that has been talked about for like at least two years, right?
The ones talked about, you know, near death.
Why?
Because they're going to do something to make you die.
In other words, they're just going to make you suffer more.
Why is that awakening?
That's not going to awaken anybody, you know.
You got a slave, you treat them like a slave, you make them suffer some more.
So what?
That's just business as usual, as far as I can tell on planet earth.
I don't see any life-altering situations.
Well, it's the old adage, really simple, right?
Right.
Well, it's the old adage, two wrongs don't make a right.
I mean, that's as simple as it gets.
Two wrongs don't make it right.
So, how do we have confidence within the leaders of the patriot movement, knowing that we're being misled for our own good, we're being lied to for our own good, You know, in the hopes that we're going to wake up our next door neighbor someday, possibly, maybe.
We'll see.
You know, that's absolutely asinine.
It is absolutely asinine.
You know, it's time for us to grow up.
It's time to put our big boy pants on and it's time for us to step up.
It's you know, I had this lady on my show.
She said something so simple, Carrie.
So simple because people always ask, how do I get involved ML?
What am I supposed to do?
How can I do something?
I'm just as I'm just a little old person.
Well, great.
You can pick up a phone.
You can do some very powerful things by picking up a phone.
This lady said it very eloquently.
She said see something say something.
It's really simple.
See something, say something.
That gets us engaged.
We gotta start somewhere.
We gotta get engaged somehow, for crying out loud.
You know?
I'm one person.
You're one person.
But together, we're more powerful together.
And I think there are more of us, truthers like us out there, it's just that they are afraid to say something because they don't want to alienate part of their audience, you know, because maybe their audience is tied to how much, you know, their funds.
But, you know, for example, I mean, this is just one last thing and then, you know, I'm not going to continue.
I'll let you go.
But I just want to say this thing.
This is bothering me as well.
Do you know that you can cross the border, the southern border right now without a VAX?
But you can't, if you're a foreigner coming into our country, you have to get the vax.
Even though that whole body of knowledge has been completely destroyed.
Everyone knows Fauci's a war criminal.
And yet our border, like in airports, is not allowing foreigners who are not vaxed in our country.
I mean, do you understand?
But they're letting them come in the border.
So I actually know some people who sent, you know, people that normally would fly into like LA are flying into Mexico City, renting a car and driving across the border because they don't want to be vaxxed.
Do you understand?
I mean, this is the kind of thinking.
Trump, in a heartbeat, could stop this bullshit.
Okay?
This is not logical.
There's nothing logical about letting people in one border, you know, not vaxxed, and not letting them in another border when they're coming from Europe.
It's insane.
I cannot stand what I'm seeing in this country now.
I mean, you know, it makes me, when I get really pissed off, I just say, you know, I'm getting out of here.
I can't stand this anymore.
I can't stand this stupid game that's going on, okay?
I just, you know, nobody is honest.
Nobody, okay?
And they're all contradicting each other every time you turn around, okay?
And they're lying to your face on both sides of the aisle.
It's wrong, okay?
That's all I know.
It's fricking wrong.
And somebody has to stand up and say it and stop politicking, okay?
I hate these politicians.
And that means on both sides of the aisle.
They're not telling the absolute truth.
That's just a fact.
It's people like you and I who are doing it.
Okay.
And, you know, thank God for the people that, you know, my audience out there who support me in this way.
Cause obviously I wouldn't last very long.
Right.
Yep.
Absolutely.
So, um, I want to thank you for coming on the show.
Um, do you have any last minute, you know, stories or words or whatever?
Well, I do, I need to do a shameless plug.
All right.
So.
First of all, thank you for having me on your show.
I appreciate that.
Sorry it's taken so long for us to actually connect.
You know, last month you helped out.
We had an initiative to help some homeless veterans out of California.
And we did.
We helped them.
And so people rose to that occasion.
Well, we have more veterans that we are trying to help.
The good thing is that some of these veterans have made a decision in their head that they actually want out of their situations, they want off the streets.
So we actually have some beautiful people across the country that are opening up their homes to be able to allow these veterans to transition so they get a hand up and get back into community, back into society and things of that nature.
We've started another fundraising initiative to help these veterans to be able to travel to get to these new homes so they can actually start reclaiming their lives again.
And I want people to really, really listen.
I am being dead serious about this.
We have a crisis here with these veterans.
All right?
These men and women of valor that are forgotten about.
are victimized in horrendous ways.
Like I said, we only want to talk about and acknowledge our children, which we should.
We need to protect our children at all costs.
But these are grown adult children of God.
They deserve opportunities as well.
You know, their country's forsaken them.
We, some of us, have forsaken them as well.
It's time for us to stand in honor.
We need to stand in honor together.
We need to stand in honor as a community.
We need to stand in honor as a nation and help these individuals who given to us because they stepped up when we needed them.
So, we need to step up now that they need us.
I can't be more emphatic that these people are horrendously, horrendously victimized It's so sad, so sad that they're discarded this way.
And these are great men and women of worth and value.
They really are.
They just need us.
They don't want a handout.
They just need a hand up.
So, you know, we're doing what we can.
Tell people what they can do.
Do you have an address or do you have, you know, because we can also, I'll post the video, but give me a link.
Thank you.
I will send you a link after the show.
We've set up a fundraising crowdfunding page over at GiveSendGo.
I believe it's called A Crisis of Honor is the name of the campaign itself.
And I know it's the holiday season, but you know what?
These people are homeless.
You know, last month we were able to get clothing Food, shelter for these individuals.
And that money doesn't last very long.
It really doesn't.
But now we actually have people that are opening their homes up to allow these people to come into their homes to help them.
That is huge.
I mean, that's standing in honor.
So I'll get you that information after the show.
I'm just grateful for letting me come on here.
Like I said, we're one accord right now.
We do need to unite in this community.
We need to coalesce in this community like never before.
Because, you know, people know there's something wrong.
You know, they may not know exactly what it is, but they know that something is wrong and something needs to be fixed.
And we got to do it.
We got to step forward.
We got to do something.
We're going to actually do a conference at the end of March called Stand in Honor.
We're going to do it in St.
Louis.
And we're going to teach people how to reclaim their sovereignty.
We're going to teach people so when they do go home, they're going to be at the grassroots level, be able to do things in their communities that start making differences.
That is going to actually ignite because that's what we need here.
And it's going to probably upset some people in this community only because you know what?
We deal in honesty.
We deal in transparency.
And that's what we should be always dealing in is honesty and transparency, which is very much lacking in this community itself.
I mean, what can I say?
From the top, we know we're not being dealt with honestly.
So, you know, I mean, it really plays a mind trick on individuals in this community when the people we look up to at the top isn't dealing with us in the most honest ways either.
It does screw with your head.
So we kind of need to re-evaluate things.
And so I would like to do, you know, some more shows with you as well.
There are so many different levels of things that we can actually get into and talk about.
But I think, again, at the end of the day, we're a brother's keeper.
Whether we want to accept it or not, we are a brother's keeper.
And we have a divine mandate.
And that divine mandate is make sure that every person has an opportunity to fulfill the true full measure of their life that God intended, plain and simple.
Yeah, very, very lovely, very nicely said.
All right, so thanks everyone for watching today.
I hope that the word is going to get out there.
If you do support one of the alternative journalists out there, please ask them to step up to communicate with us, okay?
I think we need to come together more than Being in these separate little private Idaho, so to speak, I think that people need to communicate that other people are seeing what we're seeing, you know, speak to us.
Let's let's have some round table discussions with with a lot of the journalists.
And basically send a message to the people that are trying to rule us, regardless of who they are, which side of the aisle, you know, in other words, that we must be dealt with.
We must be interacted with.
Okay.
And our concerns are everyone's concerns.
And I know that because people write to me every day about this.
So this community is basically fragmented.
You've got exclusivity.
You've got actual lies.
See, the only way you're going to get these people who are spokespeople for the White Hats to stop lying to us is to demand that they stop lying to us and to do it publicly.
So I can't be the only journalist out there, and you can't be the only journalist out there demanding that.
We need to come into a coalition together and basically change their ways, okay?
Get them to sit up, take notice, and stop lying.
I don't want Trump to go forward saying to people, I'm not president.
We know it's bullshit.
It's been proven, okay?
It's a fact, okay?
We know what the traitorous Congress did.
We know that they swore in somebody who didn't win.
You know, let's, you know, talk about, I want the White Hats to talk about that, okay?
I want them to talk and say the truth, and I want them to say it in no uncertain terms.
Don't give me a biblical story, tell me exactly, lay it on the line, what's what, okay?
Don't give me some soothing, S-G-N-O-N niceties, okay?
And you throw in the word ascension because it's useful.
Don't do that, okay?
You want to send, tell the truth.
There you go.
You know, it's actually pretty simple.
Okay.
And I don't want to know your military secrets.
So don't give me that bullshit.
Um, you know, whatever.
Okay.
So don't let, get me started here again.
Thank you very much for being here, ML.
It's great.
Um, and I really, I appreciate, and please let's help the veterans for God's sake.
That's just scandalous the way they've been treated by this country.
100%.
Okay?
So send me the details.
We'll put it on the video, put it below the video, and people can go over and contribute or do whatever they're moved to do.