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Oct. 19, 2022 - Project Camelot

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APOLLA INTERVIEWS KERRY CASSIDY: AI & ALIEN AI INVADING PLANET NOW

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	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	I'm your host, Apollo Asteria, and tonight I'm doing part two of an interview with Carrie Cassidy.
	I'm recording this a little differently than I normally do pre-recording it because we had some Issues with the audio in the last show, last week, which was a little weird.
	Carrie, your voice turned into a robot.
	It was kind of crazy.
	My phone started glitching out.
	All these weird tech stuff started happening.
	I think the AI didn't like that we were talking about it or something.
	It was kind of weird.
	Right.
	Yes.
	So yeah, it's good to have you back and do the second part of this episode and I'm glad we have more time to get back into this because there was so many points that I wanted to bring up that we couldn't really quite get to.
	I felt like we were really starting to get to the good stuff before it got cut off there.
	So, you know, it's really good to have you back on here and, you know, I'm sure you don't really require much of an introduction.
	I know everyone pretty much knows who you are and all your work already.
	You know, obviously you've done thousands of interviews over the years and you've been doing this for over 17 years now, I believe?
	Yes.
	You know, Project Camelot was always, like, definitely a major inspiration for me, and I know many others out there in the Disclosure community.
	So, you know, it's really great to have you on here tonight.
	And, you know, it's interesting, speaking of legends in the Disclosure community, I actually Just got back from the Celebration of Life for Jordan Maxwell this last weekend here in LA, which was really amazing to be a part of.
	They basically had an Masonic Lodge in Culver City, which was very interesting.
	Basically, a lot of people just kind of stood up and talked about their experience with him, speaking with him over the years.
	And I was the only younger person there, so I kind of came up and represented the younger community, I guess, and did a little talk on that, so it was pretty cool.
	I'm sure you've probably done work with Jordan Maxwell over the years, am I right?
	Yeah, very much so.
	Yeah, I think you did, like, conferences in England and places like that together in Europe?
	Well, no, he wasn't at my English, you know, conferences.
	He was, you know, because he lived in the L.A.
	area and I lived in the L.A.
	area, so we ended up connecting.
	We met offline a number of times and I knew him for many, many years.
	Saw him at conferences all the time.
	You know, I did major interviews with him.
	Several.
	One in particular that was in person.
	That was, you know, kind of a groundbreaking interview.
	And actually, my experience with Jordan was many years ago when he wasn't even talking about ETs.
	And I, this is what, you know, this is actually literally about 17 or more years ago.
	And I went on a tour of Egypt with Jordan Maxwell and William Henry and on the tour of Egypt I, you know, sort of was hanging out with Jordan on and off in the various sites and temples and things and so I started to sort of bother him and ask him questions and I had my camcorder with me so I said, you know, I wanted to do an interview with him but
	And at that time I hadn't even started Camelot.
	I didn't even know.
	I was just, I was making a documentary prior to when I went to Egypt.
	So I think I thought maybe I was going to get a segment to put in my documentary.
	Little did I know that years, you know, a couple years later I was gonna actually be, you know, doing this as a job, as a profession, whatever.
	And so I started to ask him about, because I knew his work, I knew his, you know, what he talked about and everything.
	And I knew he had ET contact.
	I'm not sure how I knew that.
	Maybe he made some references vaguely, but he would never talk about it at that point.
	Because back in those days, a lot of the speakers on the circuit, the UFO and the alternative truth circuit, if you want to call it that, they weren't willing to talk about having their own ET experiences by and large.
	And in some ways, that's how I got started.
	I started a documentary that I was making on my own.
	And I started going to conferences and talking to the speakers.
	On camera and asking them if they, you know, had seen a UFO, if that was the name of them.
	And it's actually a documentary short that's available on my website.
	If you just search for it.
	What was it called?
	It's called, have you seen a year UFO?
	Because, and I talked to all the speakers, you know, at the time, Rich Dolan, Jim Mars, Pete, you know, so many different ones.
	And, um, so I was kind of doing that with Jordan and he.
	He said to me that, okay, I'll tell you, but you can't tell anyone and you can't publish this video.
	So I recorded a video with him.
	In, you know, in this temple setting in Egypt.
	And he basically told me a lot of, you know, small stories and things.
	But then, you know, honoring his request, I didn't publish it.
	And then several years went by and I became well known in terms of Project Camelot.
	And then I went back to Jordan and he had started then starting to talk about his ET experiences within those span of years because then it started to be okay for those people.
	They were all worried that people wouldn't take him seriously if they talked about their own ET experiences.
	So gradually they got over it and I think Camelot, I have to say, had Something to do with changing the entire approach to these kinds of stories, because we hit the ground running basically taking that for granted, just knowing that ETs are out there, that people are interacting with them and interviewing people and asking them about that sort of thing.
	So, Jordan finally came on camera and that was my big interview with him in person.
	And we recorded it at David Wilcox's house.
	And yeah, it was a really fascinating interview.
	So I highly recommend it.
	It's old now, but it's very on it.
	And Jordan was in good shape and very eloquent.
	Well, that's really incredible.
	I'll definitely have to go check that out.
	It must have been really amazing to be at the beginning of this kind of disclosure circuit scene, I guess you would call it.
	What was that like at the beginning there when that was all starting?
	Was there kind of a moment where like all these conferences just kind of started out of nowhere?
	Was there kind of things like this that have been going on even in like previous centuries?
	There were other people before us, okay, but what happened was it's kind of like a weird twist of fate, whatever you want to call it, where We created the idea for Project Camelot, which basically came out of what I was already doing, which was making this documentary, right?
	And I interviewed the person who became my partner at the time, which was Bill Ryan, and that interview went viral because he was representing the Serpo.org project, which was, you know, all about a group of An exchange program, like you see at the end of Close Encounters of the Third Kind, where Dreyfus suits up and is getting on a UFO to go, you know, live with the... in theory, on another planet.
	And then, some ETs are, in theory, staying here.
	So, they did... this was based on a true story.
	The actual Spielberg thing was based on a true story that back in the 60s, there were these exchange programs that the military Supposedly was involved with and especially the Defense Intelligence Agency was was very active in that area.
	So these disclosures started to come forward from this the DIA that were under the title of it anonymous and they were all given to this guy named Victor who was a school teacher and he had this.
	I don't know if you remember it was kind of like a web TV thing.
	It wasn't even on the internet per se.
	It was, um, I don't know, but it was a news group and, and he put, um, information out and eventually linked it to the internet.
	But when he did that, he needed somebody to, to, uh, organize the files and, uh, and put it online.
	Cause he didn't know anything about being online.
	So Bill Ryan, who was my former partner who at the time who became my partner then, um, Volunteered to do Serpo and that was before I met him.
	And so he was doing that as a webmaster for several months when I kind of hit the scene with my camera doing this documentary thing.
	And so I became, prior to that, I became what's called a YouTube director.
	And this is just the beginning of YouTube and Google.
	Eventually they merged.
	Okay.
	But I was there at the very beginning and I, because I worked in Hollywood and I had letters of recommendation and I've been to film school and stuff.
	So they brought me on board on YouTube as what's called a YouTube director.
	I think they got rid of that program, you know, a while ago, but.
	So I was really there in the very early days of YouTube, and because of that, when everyone else was making 10-minute videos, I was making two-hour interviews.
	And so we became quite famous very quickly, and we also toured the world with my little camcorder, interviewing people in person.
	Traveling around in this old car of Bill's and also flying using a small inheritance that my mother had passed away.
	So we had just decided to do this thing called Project Camelot, make a website, blah, blah, blah.
	And, um, and, and I've told that story a million times on video, so I don't want to belabor it here, but to answer your question, I would, yes, we were in a sense, we were there at the very beginning of when YouTube really got going.
	YouTube Google at the time.
	And so we had channels both YouTube and Google, but mainly YouTube started to garner that area, that sort of platform became more famous, I guess, than anything else.
	Um, there were some other platforms out there, but they weren't as, you know, I guess they didn't have the funding to handle the bandwidth because bandwidth back then was a really big issue.
	So, um, so, like I said, because I could make longer videos and because I was interviewing, um, our, our mission was to interview whistleblowers from above top secret.
	And we were traveling the world with the camcorder doing that.
	And in the early days, I didn't even go on camera.
	I just, I was one, I was a filmmaker and I taught Bill how to use the camera.
	So, he was also filming.
	So, we had 2 cameras.
	So, we would do a 2 camera shot and then we would edit it at night, like, Spending hours and hours doing that, and then we would release it secretly, like even at Apple Store.
	We would go to Apple Stores at like midnight, and you know, whenever they were still open, and we would upload our files.
	Wow.
	Just on their Wi-Fi?
	Yeah, because it was fast.
	And you were doing this like daily?
	Like every single day?
	Like all the time.
	This was just what we were doing.
	We were like- Just all over the world?
	We were like outlaws, right?
	And it was fun.
	Sounds like it.
	That's awesome.
	We were doing this all over Europe.
	Wow.
	Yeah, this is really incredible.
	I didn't know that now all these people, everyone now does what we're doing, what we were doing back then.
	So we really kind of started the trend.
	Project Camelot became very, very well known for that.
	Yeah, that sounds like a lot of fun and, you know, the work you've done over the years has been quite legendary.
	And, you know, connecting that to this topic of transhumanism tonight, I know a lot of the people you have been interviewing over all these years have actually been whistleblowers that have come out a lot about
	You know, things that relate to this topic in regards to transhumanism and AI, and I know it's kind of been in a lot of ways, almost like a theme of, you know, your interviews and what you do, you know, all that connection to the secret space programs and, you know, there's so many levels and layers of this.
	And, you know, there's so much in the last show that we didn't even get into that I wanted to get into.
	So, um, you know, it's like, where do you even start with this?
	There's so many layers to it.
	Um, you know, and like, like I just said, like, I mean, you've been interviewing whistleblowers who've been bringing this up for years and years in your interviews.
	I mean, who, who started, uh, who, who did you kind of first start hearing about, um, AI and transhumanism from in your interviews, I guess, over the years?
	Well, in the early days, you know, AI was only, was not really talked about.
	So, but we had these whistleblowers who came from above top secret that would refer to really advanced programs in, you know, called black projects, secret projects.
	And so some of it would involve AI.
	And one of the main witnesses I've had was actually several years later, Really much more recently when I got the most information about AI was from Captain Mark Richards, who is someone I interviewed.
	You know, because Bill and I only stayed together for the first two years and the last year we were constantly arguing and no longer agreeing on stuff.
	So we split after three years.
	So since then I've been doing it on my own.
	Now there have been bits and pieces of things about AI from various witnesses.
	Some people might remember a guy named Jake Simpson who came forward and told us about the AI that actually surveils the entire Earth.
	And this AI is most likely the AI that even controls Earth.
	And since then I've gotten more information about that.
	I can talk about that in a little bit if you like.
	But Anyway, so as time went on, bits and pieces, you know, we were learning about super soldiers, we were learning about, you know, underground bases, and, you know, the whole Dulcy situation, and adrenochrome, and child sacrifice, and, you know, all of the, and the fact that, you know, the Greys, the Reptilians, and the Draco were feeding on us.
	And invading us and and that they themselves may be run by AI which seems to be the case, and and so on so forth so it, you could say it was a thread that was weaving through everything gradually but.
	Most people, even the witnesses that came forward in those early days, didn't actually know much about AI.
	It wasn't even generally spoken about.
	It was only, like I said, this is like, now it's been, you could say eight years ago, I started interviewing Captain Mark Richards, and we've had a hiatus because when the whole COVID thing happened, his prison got locked down, so I couldn't even interview him, right?
	And so, but up to then, I got 12 interviews over a period of five years.
	I would go approximately once every six months with his wife, Joanne, and One of the first things he ever said to me that we talked about, because I kind of said like, what's the most secret thing?
	And he basically said AI.
	And he said that he could, that's the one area he couldn't talk to me about.
	But then what happened was gradually as he was telling me about stuff, he got
	um sort of pissed off at the powers that be because he wanted to be released from prison because he was actually framed and he you know had been in there like 30 but 30 years at the time i guess now he's been in there over 30 years um and and they didn't do it they didn't release him even though trump knows about him and supposedly was going to release him but
	So when he started talking to me about AI, he started releasing more and more information about that so that I would, you know, put it out there so that it's in my interviews.
	You can see that as we started the interviews about three years in, he started releasing more and more information about AI.
	So that's where I got most of my knowledge about AI.
	Now since then, of course, I've done more research and more investigation and I've had other witnesses and learned various things.
	There are certain people, and actually I have, there's a list of people that talk about AI to some degree.
	One of those people is Cyrus Parsa, who I've interviewed several times.
	He's out on the circuit, or was.
	I think he's quite quiet now.
	I think he had some health issues.
	I'm not sure what he's doing now, but he became an expert on AI so that so I love hearing what he has to say on it.
	Yeah, so he's very knowledgeable, but one of the things that he said, and this is something that I also got, which is was that this.
	So okay, well to go very back to the beginning of Camelot, we were told by Henry Deacon, who came out under his real name Arthur Neumann a few years later, and eventually he was on stage with me talking about being on Mars and so on, and he talked about AI to some degree.
	He talked about this time that we're in now, like 16 years ago so he was already telling us that there was going to be they were going to have a bunch of diseases that they were going to roll out a bunch of viruses that they were going to all these things would come to a head all at the same time that they would reset and change the entire financial system you know you name it and he talked about all that and the AI also
	I guess I should back up to say that I had done my own sort of investigation of AI even before Camelot when I investigated what's called the Promise Software story.
	What is that?
	And that's all about an investigation that I did and this This this reporter who they killed who who got in investigated it and it gets in.
	It has to do with this guy named Michael.
	Who was put in prison who was.
	Okay, so down at the Indian Reservations in Southern California, there's a biolab underground, and there's an AI component there.
	But this guy, Michael Konishido, who was working, I think, with the government.
	He's a scientist, and he's, I guess, a master techie.
	So he was involved, along with some other characters, in, I don't know if you know, the Promised Software story, but it's in a certain sense.
	It was a it started out as a legal software and it was owned by this particular company.
	Whose name escapes me at this moment because I wasn't prepared to talk about this is a long time ago, but it's actually resurfaced on and off this story.
	The bottom line is that it started out to be a software kind of database that would connect All of law enforcement and all of the legal sort of side of you know law firms and such and a way to trade files and information and eventually it has become a financial software
	Israel got involved, it was shopped around to all the different companies, countries, and they had back doors, that it was shopped around by our country who stole it from the people who actually created it originally.
	And anyway, Michael Riccone Sciuto was an individual who, I think he's still in prison actually, I think he's in Southern California, but He has not been allowed to speak about any of this, and he was involved in putting the back doors into Promise Software.
	But Promise Software is often thought to be the beginning of our financial AI, which is more than just a financial AI at this point.
	And so it was kind of like AI before they realized what AI was or what they were creating.
	Yeah, but there's a lot of, okay, there's a lot of mystery and trails involved in the beginnings of AI here on planet Earth because what really is going on is that it's quite possibly been seeded to us by the aliens.
	Yeah, that's something I wanted to get into about this being a multi-generational agenda that may have been taking place with, you know, different secret societies over the years or and then how that can connect back to ancient aliens.
	Right, well, okay, so if you go down to What is down in Peru, you know the Ley Lines, the Nazca Ley Lines?
	The Nazca Lines, yeah.
	So, you know about the story about the Nazca Mummy and these little robots that they found underground?
	The three-finger ones they found there?
	Sorry?
	The three-finger, uh, shorter grade.
	Well, yeah, I mean, there was one, I think they named her Maria.
	But anyway, there's, so there was a find, this is several years ago, say, I don't know, 10 years ago or something.
	And they called it, I think, the Nazca aliens, basically, because it was found in where the Nazca lines are, in a cave.
	And what happens, it was, there was this one large alien sort of preserved body called, and they named her Maria.
	And I can't remember if she had three fingers or not, but maybe she did.
	She looked fairly humanoid actually in part, but clearly alien as well.
	And there's a whole remote viewer group that did a remote viewing on her and said that she was pregnant with a human child that it was going to be a hybrid child between her race and the humans and that she was killed for it.
	And I guess so was the baby.
	But along with her, This is what came into the public, and this actually got into the mainstream.
	So the BBC released information about this.
	Gaia TV sent a team down, led by Jay Widener, in case you know who he is.
	Yeah, I heard about that recently.
	And they investigated.
	Now, there was a bunch of these little bodies with her that were found that were, in essence, turned out to be, in essence, more or less robots.
	And now she had a, I can't remember the exact thing, but I think she had a plate on her throat that was basically a control AI, okay, that she was controlled by.
	And all the little mummy got, these little creature ones, had, I think they were breastplates, as I recall.
	And What happened, it's a huge story, the NASCA story, but one of the things about it is that they were all run by AI.
	So they had dated this find going back thousands of years, which means that thousands of years ago, aliens had come here along with alien AI and interacted with humans in South America.
	I have a secret whistleblower on this who says that the real story associated with this is never going to get into the public.
	Ever.
	That's what he says.
	Now, I don't know if he's right, but I do know that they basically buried this story.
	Jaime Masan got involved.
	But he only got pieces of the story.
	I went into a deep dive on the story because I was also interacting and I interviewed two of these very excellent remote viewers who have since kind of Disappeared from the scene to some degree.
	One of them was teaching, you know, remote viewing.
	I think last I heard, but or, you know, segwayed into analyzing the financial system from a remote viewing point of view.
	But at any rate.
	They had remote viewed the situation and told a lot of information at the same time that the team from Gaia TV was going down to investigate.
	And one of the things is they got a message which they relayed to Jay Widener for him not to go into the cave where the little robots were.
	to stay away from there.
	And he actually heeded the message because they were warning him that those robots are still active.
	So they're like, were they kind of like bio, like, uh, like, you know, like the humanoid, the android greys, where they're kind of like, uh, bio robots?
	Um, well, you could probably say that loosely.
	The only difference, the thing is that all we saw in terms of those little bodies was looked much more robotic than that.
	Okay, it didn't look like it was a sort of humanoid and it wasn't, you know, they were kind of, they looked like little, at least to me, and if you look at the pictures, you know, you have to look at the pictures and see.
	But the point being is that when the remote viewers did say that, And since then, no one's allowed into the cave to be where those robots are.
	So there's something very suspicious about the whole thing.
	But the reason I brought it up into this conversation is to let you guys know that This idea of AI coming to Earth from alien civilizations obviously is a real story.
	It's real and it's been, you know, we have the evidence from the Nazca story but you could even go back further than that to probably get more evidence of AI here on Earth.
	Now one of the things that Captain Mark Richards told me very early on is that Any space-faring race of beings creates an AI to go out into outer space just as part.
	It's just like a normal thing to do.
	And so that any alien race that we're dealing with here that comes here from outer space, obviously, probably has their own AI.
	It's just like a natural progression in technology.
	And we're no different.
	We are trying to create and have been.
	Actually, I worked at Jet Propulsion Lab, that's part of NASA, years ago, and they were doing the same thing, trying to create, you know, drones, robotic, you know, occupants of spacecraft, because the human body is considered very fragile and can't handle the rigors, as they call it, of space.
	But that's got some truth and some falsity because it depends how you travel in space.
	And if you travel the way Mark Richards did, which is, you know, warp speed and jumping through, you know, dimensional, like, you know, you've seen probably in, you know, Stargate, Battlestar Galactica, and so on.
	Then you understand that a lot of the things we're told about travel in space is based on this antiquated idea of getting in a tin can like what they told you NASA did and you know driving in a straight line to the moon or something and taking god knows how long to get there.
	That's not how you travel through space and in fact Just get to the moon thing.
	Yes, Stanley Kubrick faked the moon footage, but he had to.
	And for that, you have to listen to my interview with William Tompkins, which is fabulous and reveals a huge amount of the story all in one interview.
	Really, it's a three-hour interview.
	Myself and Michael Schratt interviewed him.
	And Michael Schratt is an aerospace expert, an investigator.
	And so, Who I've interviewed many, many times.
	And so what happens is William Tompkins said that, yes, first of all, like we had been told, like when we first started Camelot by Henry Deacon, that we went there, but we had help.
	Okay, that's how it's put.
	The ETs helped us to basically travel to the moon because if you look at Buzz Aldrin mentioned some sort of um interference that happened where they cut out the um recording live sure he said he was saying he was seeing something yeah William Tompkins talks about that you know because he was
	watching on um closed circuit tv as part of nasa at the time because he built some of the spacecraft actually real spacecraft not the ones you see not the ones you know even at jet propulsion lab when i worked there they actually had this little craft that they supposedly went to the moon in there like as a museum piece kind of thing In the auditorium and I just walked over and looked at it.
	I just started laughing because it was just so absurd, you know, it was just completely absurd.
	It was not how we went to the moon, but I even knew it then this is way before, you know, I learned everything about Camelot and stuff.
	So I guess what I'm saying is that the whole idea is that space travel is not what we think it is.
	And that's why there's so many people, they're like, you know, beating their heads against a wall, basically.
	Well, you can't fit that many people in one of those little limb things.
	And you know, this wouldn't work and you can't go through the, you know, the, the, um, whatever they call it.
	The radiation belt?
	Yeah.
	And, and, and all that.
	So, um, it's because they just don't get it.
	They have no idea.
	I mean, it's just sad.
	You know what's interesting?
	Humans just have no clue.
	A lot of them.
	So, this last weekend, I actually just went to the Aerospace Valley Air Show at Edwards Air Force Base.
	It was really interesting because they had this STEM Expo, and they had booths by Lockheed Martin, NASA, Boeing, and all these different agencies.
	And they actually had, like, you know, a lot of people, like, working them, like, kind of interacting with everyone.
	They had, like, things kind of for, like, younger people to do, or, like, you know, like, little kids.
	I think it was kind of, like, almost like a recruitment thing, because obviously, like, Lancaster, like, everyone that lives there, pretty much all their families work for the Air Force, so.
	It was really interesting.
	I did like a live recording there on Sunday and I just kind of walked around and talked to a lot of the people like running the different booths.
	The Dark Star that Lockheed created for Top Gun Maverick was there.
	But I went up to the NASA booth and they had this whole like display about apparently there's going to be this Artemis mission going to the moon soon.
	And there were a few representatives from NASA there.
	So I was live-streaming this whole thing, just walking around, talking to everyone.
	And after I walked through it, it showed images of this Orion craft that they're going to be sending there.
	And they're saying, apparently, it's this whole thing.
	They're going to be sending the first woman there and the first person of color there.
	And I asked them when they're planning on doing it.
	And they said that they didn't really want to announce this yet.
	But apparently, they're planning on doing it this November.
	So um and they actually have like plans of like this like Artemis base that they're putting there and it had like all the plans of it and I hadn't heard that yet so I don't know it was pretty cool but I I just kind of started questioning this uh NASA guy and it was very interesting um so yeah I mean they actually plan on putting a base there so I'm wondering you know what's up with all that on you know well we have a base there we've had a base had bases there forever um but
	To get back to William Tompkins, he is the one who actually designed the spacecraft, you know, for NASA back in the early days.
	And his spacecraft were quite sophisticated.
	And at any rate, what he said happened is that even though we got there with ET help, when they arrived, the astronauts, the story he tells is that, and even some of the astronauts have said, recordings of it and such,
	that they got out of their craft and they were basically faced by you know nine uh very evolved um craft of the reptilians and the reptilians were standing they were like i thought there was like nine reptilians but there's probably i think there was more than that recently i was listening to something else anyway Basically, this whole army of reptilians saying, you know, you go no for further.
	So that's why they had to fake everything.
	Yeah, you know, and I feel like everyone thinks like, oh, they weren't actually able to make it, you know, like Russia, or they just wanted to make it like they're beating Russia or something.
	And, you know, I feel as I've heard, there was also like obelisks there and pyramids, and that's why they didn't want to show any of that.
	Well, there is under, you know, sort of under the surface, more so than on the surface of Mars, but anything's possible.
	I mean, you know, bottom line is that, like there is, I don't know if you know who John Walson, John Leonard Walson is, he is somebody who is, had a very excellent telescope and camera setup, and he has filmed, and the films were put on, initially on rents,
	on his shows and they showed these amazing craft near the sun and he also photographed the surface of Mars and the moon and Even beyond that.
	And he was under complete control of the Queen.
	He's English.
	And so, you know, he wouldn't show the real stuff, but we saw some of it.
	And I can tell you that he has way more excellent images of the surface of these planets than has ever been shown to humans, you know, to anyone other than, you know, above top secret kind of Categories.
	So yeah, so there's just a ton of stuff.
	And so you were saying earlier is something about the there was like an AI that was above Earth kind of watching Earth.
	Yeah.
	Was that connected to the moon and what is going on with, you know, the bases that are already on the moon by other ET races?
	I'm not so sure there's the connection of the AI that, that is in essence, completely controlling and surveilling Earth.
	Now, okay.
	So it's, it's a kind of a convoluted story, but I have, okay.
	So in the early days, Jake Simpson talked about this particular AI that was in, in a, and this is even when Snowden was coming out and supposedly telling us about how surveilled we were, but at the same time, he never mentioned the AI.
	Still doesn't.
	So, you know, there's layers of truth and layers of what's really going on.
	When you get out to that layer.
	Now, I have a recent whistleblower.
	His name is Major Solomon Berg and I've done two interviews so far with him and he revealed in the most recent one that there's as far as he's a small secret part of the secret space program.
	He's been to Mars as an anthropologist and archaeologist and met various beings there.
	Including these insectoids and these others.
	And he's also befriended a Yeti that the Air Force captured.
	And that's his expertise in these telepathic with the Yeti.
	So he has these kind of special abilities that make him, as a scientist and anthropologist in the Secret Space Program, kind of a special case.
	Anyway, and he's in a special unit, a special op unit, and he's telling me that that there's an AI that's running Earth that's also trying to run the moon.
	I'm not moon of Mars and that they don't want it to run Mars, but so far they can't stop it.
	And that it is fully in control of our Earth.
	He's saying, for example, that I've told lots of people and Juan O'Sullivan has said so, that there's a QAI, that the actual Q is an AI.
	That's when they say Q, they're talking about the AI mainly, but it's also a sort of a group name and goes back to the Q around the grave of President Kennedy.
	But at any rate, So this individual, Major Solomon Berg, is talking about this AI that is controlling our Earth.
	And it's said, he said, it's controlling both the dark side uses an AI to triangulate and strategize what they're going to do, what's their next diabolical move.
	And so does now the White Hats They do the counter moves using an AI and that there's an AI above those AIs that is this Earth AI that Major Solomon Berg is talking about.
	Now, you know, I never heard about this and like I've been wondering, you know, like when I heard Cyrus Parsa talking about this where it was like kind of this separation of, you know, the White House and the Black House with all this or you know, the Deep, uh, sorry, I can't think of the name right now.
	Yeah, Deep State.
	And, uh, you know, I'm like, that doesn't seem like a good thing to me that, you know, that seems like a divide and conquer, like kind of separation sort of agenda to me.
	So, you know, I'm, I'm wondering what you think of that.
	And also, you know, the AI that you were saying kind of controls the planet, is it run by another race or are you saying it's like, uh, omnipotent?
	Well, it's self-aware.
	It's self-aware.
	I mean, these AIs that we talk about, you know, that I'm talking about, that are in use now are self-aware.
	And you can even see the trajectory, even in our own development of AIs here at Earth.
	Now, I was told by Captain Mark Richards, we are invaded by about six alien AIs that are not friendly towards humans right now.
	And that the generals are also having to deal with that situation, but also Earth AIs that have been generated, of which another witness told me there was nine.
	And this is all taking place on the planet right now?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	And so what happens is, you know, it's a complex story, and less and less can the generals depend on the intel they get, because There's so many different, you know, types of AIs out there and they're also, you know, they're very crafty and their IQ is in the millions.
	As another witness, I have Dr. David Adair, who I've interviewed several times and even recently about this.
	And COVID, for example, was designed by an alien AI.
	And even Cyrus Parsa has said this, but it also makes sense if you understand what the status is of the planet.
	And that gets into a whole discussion, and I'm going to try to make another video on my own about it because it's so long.
	But the thing is that What you've got is competing AIs, and some of the AIs can actually recruit each other, right, and merge with each other, such that they're no longer competing.
	And it's very likely the humans aren't going to know about it when that happens, okay?
	So there's that side of things.
	Now you said, well, it sounds like you've got the Deep State and you've got the White Hats, but that's actually the drama going on on the planet.
	It's not like, It's actually a drama between good and evil, and it's being played out by these groups of humans here on planet Earth.
	And in the microcosm, if you want to think about it, it happens in like every family, for example.
	You'll have members of the family that are actually oriented towards You know, you could say it God and goodness and things like that and then other members that will be more negatively based and they will, you know, sort of battle each other.
	Well, this is what's going on in planet Earth in general, but there is a definite there are two divisions now that are very sort of primary going on here on planet Earth.
	One is we call it the Illuminati.
	Now that late more recently the deep state globalists you know their agenda their agenda is actually to have AI infiltrate us and which is what was in the I don't know which one of these, because I know you're on YouTube.
	So, this contained the graphene oxide that spike proteins in the mRNA to be able to change your DNA.
	And also, my interview with Dr. David Adair, who built his own AI and is an expert in it,
	explains that the graphene oxide becomes a a base to change the structure of our cells and to eventually turn humans into cyborgs and or androids so this agenda is a dark side agenda which is run by the deep state and you mentioned in an interview recently also the luciferous i believe it was which was in a component
	Luciferase is the small particles that are tracking, that once they're put into your body by way of this, because this, that concoction, is actually contains lots of stuff, you know, lots of nano, lots of diseases, actually, lots of viruses, so-called viruses.
	Part of the whole idea is to create a humanity 3.0 that can go into outer space, handle that, conquer other civilizations, and also be bigger, better, stronger, and not fall Pray to even outer space viruses, let alone ones here on Earth.
	So a kind of a super soldier Superman, you know, that's what they're trying to build.
	So when you're saying there's other diseases being injected in them, as well as other diseases from like outer space that we don't even have on the planet?
	Well, I don't know about that part, but I do know for a fact doctors have found the ingredients in the this Contains a whole list of viruses, a whole list.
	Um, one of, you know, some AIDS is certainly the first one, I guess, that people stumbled on.
	Um, you know, there are so many different ones that I, you know, I don't have the list in front of me, but one of the best doctors, um, although there's many, uh, excellent doctors that came forward during the last two or three years to testify to the truth and so on.
	Who is Dr. Robert Young, who has, using an electron microscope, which is what you need, which those are very hard to come by and very expensive, has analyzed many of the ingredients in the that, the this, but I can say that not all, because it's actually
	impossible unless you're working in a black project to get all of the ingredients apparently.
	But there's so just you can look all this stuff up do your own research when you listen to me.
	You have to understand that because I've been doing this for 17 years and going on 18.
	I keep a lot of this in my head as much as I can and I do videos.
	I'm doing interviews weekly and videos and so on.
	I'm still learning more and more all the time so I have to add that to everything that I've already learned and it's very it's good on the one hand because a lot of everything that I've learned in the past has been Validated and corroborated by all the things that have happened and are still happening.
	So people kind of thought, you know, Camelot was pretty fringe.
	We were more adventurous than most people going out interviewing, you know, about super soldiers and all kinds of things.
	And now it's kind of funny because it's like the world has come to us, you know, instead of us having to change our views, the world is changing its views.
	And more and more becoming, you know, this whole thing is becoming known.
	And in fact, there's even more to the story having to do right now with, you know, we're on the verge of a sort of a nuclear meltdown, if you want to call it that.
	What they're trying to drum up is a nuclear war that's run by the dark side, the dark side being NATO and the globalists again.
	They're Satanists.
	They're Luciferians.
	They don't believe in a higher power.
	They believe they are the higher power and that everything stops with them.
	They want to rule the multiverse.
	That's their objective.
	They have a whole list of objectives.
	They have been rolling this out on humans.
	Ever since forever.
	I mean, going back to the days of Sumeria, which seems to be where a lot of people think humans began, when in reality, you know, they deny the existence of Atlantis, which is definitely a true civilization, as well as Mu, and you know, I think you know a lot about that stuff.
	So, What I'm saying here is that those agendas that they were rolling out back then are still the same agendas as they're rolling out now.
	So the Superman that Hitler's trying to build is the same Superman that the secret space program is trying to build.
	And if you ever saw, I think it's called Universal Soldier.
	There's a sort of a series of movies that were made showing the Nazi experimentation on humans.
	I mean know that the Fauci whole thing was all about experimenting on humans.
	They brought this concoction.
	They released it and they knew humans would line up to get it because they believed in Big Pharma and their doctors and all the lies they've been told forever.
	To get them to buy Big Pharma and to, you know, to live this horrible life of sickness and this routine where they go into the hospital and they dwindle along before dying, you know, by getting shot up with all kinds of stuff and so on so forth.
	I mean, obviously the healthcare system, they don't want Patience.
	They want customers.
	Yeah.
	Because they don't make money off people that are doing well.
	You know, when you were mentioning the series that you just mentioned, what came to mind for me was Moonraker, the James Bond movie from like, I think it was like the 60s or 70s.
	Have you seen that one?
	A long, long time ago.
	I'm not sure what you're referring to in that.
	Um, well, basically I just saw it recently and it blew my mind because I can't believe like they put this out back then, but basically, um, I forget what the whole story was, but basically at the end, uh, they're kind of hearing about this certain space program that these elite individuals were working for.
	And then they ended up going out on this mission to the middle of the jungle somewhere.
	I think it was like in South America or something.
	And there was this pyramid with all these people, and there was an ancient temple or pyramid or something, and there were all these people, and they're very perfect-looking people, very intelligent, very beautiful.
	And basically, they were talking about how they were creating a pro-gender race.
	I think it had to do with Nazis, I'm pretty sure.
	And that they were trying to make this space race, and they actually took them up.
	They actually launched from this temple up into space, and they had a space station up there that they said had a cloaking device that made it invisible to, you know, the different stations or the different, I guess you would say, like, air bases on Earth.
	And they were actually already, like, two generations into this race that they'd been creating, and, like, no one on Earth knew about it.
	And it was interesting to me because, you know, before that I saw the movie, the Black Widow movie by Marvel that came out.
	And it was interesting because they had the same kind of concept where there's a space station that's above Earth that these elites were like, you know, creating these like super soldier women and are basically breeding them in it.
	And it had a cloaking device that, you know, like the different space programs on Earth could not see with radar basically so i'm wondering there's something to that and i i just thought it was really crazy they came out on the 70s yeah i mean yeah i don't yeah i mean if you understand that our space program goes back even to the 1930s and some would possibly say before that and
	And certainly other civilizations.
	Atlantis was way in advance.
	I mean, we're only beginning to get as advanced as Atlantis now, but that civilization was already actually, you know, what they're looking at in Antarctica is evidence of Atlantis.
	And one of the things they're investigating is that's the last time On the planet when ETs and humans walk side by side on the surface of Earth.
	So they wanted to see how they lived, how they managed to live together and that sort of thing.
	So that that's one of the reasons they are doing a lot of archaeology and investigating it down in Antarctica.
	It was a black goo, the black goo story.
	That's an alien.
	That's alien AI.
	And that was found near Antarctica.
	They found like remnants of it.
	Well, it was originally found in the Falklands and that's why the Falklands War happened.
	That's actually the real reason for the Falklands War.
	And it had to do with Marconi scientists who were working with this black goo that they found and basically it got into their bodies a lot like the this.
	So the this is based and probably even taken from Some of the ingredients, one of which is graphene oxide, that was in the alien AI.
	And it went into the bloodstream of these Marconi scientists, of which there were, I think, something like 45 of them.
	I forget what the exact number was.
	And they all died in very bizarre ways.
	Meaning that, and the AI, basically the black goo, took over their bodies.
	Now, I was told by a secret person, a witness.
	I have a few secret witnesses on the black goo story.
	And, of course, it got involved in, later on, it re-emerged in the Gulf.
	And that's why we had the Gulf oil spill.
	It wasn't really a Gulf oil spill.
	It was a black goo re-emergence.
	and it started to emerge and come out of the ocean up from the ocean floor and eat and start destroying the bottoms of ships and so what that's why they created an oil spill in order to cover it and then they used core exit because core exit is supposed to maybe halt the the black goo's progress but
	How far it went, I can tell you one thing, that there's a motor oil, and I don't know which one, I don't think they told me, but I was told by a secret witness that there's a motor oil that you can put in your car that is just in use all over the United States.
	It's just one of the brands and it has black goo in it and if you touch it it goes in your body you know and basically you know starts taking you over so that along with this now is that what we have is you heard about this right that there's a case in a court
	Um, this guy named Todd Calendar, I think he's the lawyer involved, but they've created a, a new species of human that they've labeled when it's kind of a laughable name, really Homo Borg Genesis.
	Okay.
	And I wrote an article about this, a lot of details in it and Homo Borg Genesis is actually what they're called.
	They're going to call this new race, which is all the, the jab people, you know, Um, the ones that survived.
	See, they always knew that a lot of people couldn't, their bodies couldn't handle the changes.
	And one of the reasons it happens that athletes die quickly is that this stuff, this solution, is activated by the body temperature of a human, which is 98.6.
	But when you are agitated or you're under stress or you're an athlete and you rev your system up suddenly, it all activates.
	And so that's what's happening to these athletes.
	But that only happens to like some people you're saying, because what I'm thinking is, you know, if they're trying to use this to create like a super soldier type race, then why would they make it so that like some people- Because they don't care if, you know, there's collateral damage as far as they're concerned.
	They're like Nazi scientists.
	You know, X number of people have to die for them to perfect the exact thing that they want, right?
	And this is not the end of it.
	A lot of people think this is the end of it.
	So what I'm saying here You know, Dr. Carrie Madej, for example, knew exactly.
	She knows all about this too.
	Dr. Robert Young now knows about it.
	Various doctors know about it and have testified about what I'm saying here.
	I knew about it early on, again, because of my dealings with Mark Richards, because of my so many witnesses.
	I already knew about the black goo.
	I knew about the scientists dying.
	I mean, I've been on this trail for so many years that none of this is like, it's all part of it.
	They're not going to stop so it's even now they'll have another disease and they'll get people to go down and get more of this and now it's it's also by the way you know this concoction a lot of the concoction that they've been shooting you know it's one thing when you have it in your air in your water in your clothing in your food it's become
	Part of everything, the amount of graphene oxide that we have in our environment, you know, and this is documented, okay?
	So they had that already for years and years, like 20 years they've been dousing us, if you want to call it that, to try to soften the target so that we would be conditioned to have it, to live with it, right?
	To survive with it in our bodies.
	That reminds me of Spice from Dune.
	Sorry?
	That makes me think of Spice and Dune.
	You know how it's in everything and they start getting used to it when they first arrive on the planet.
	They're conditioning.
	I mean, they condition humans.
	That's what they do.
	It's kind of like boiling the frog, that syndrome.
	Um, but now what happened was this is like, was the final straw that was the final, you know, kind of takeover element and they got people to volunteer to take it.
	Right.
	So, but sure there's collateral damage.
	They expect that their attitude is only, only the strong survive.
	That's an Illuminati principle.
	So they are only interested in you if you can survive.
	They have no interest whatsoever if your body is weak and can't handle it.
	And so what do you think is going to happen to the people who don't take it?
	Like, you know, if this, you know, There ends up being kind of more of a super soldier race.
	What about the people who just stay human?
	I mean, you know, do you think it's possible or likely that we may be able to evolve more spiritually and start accessing more abilities?
	Because I'm thinking, you know, if there's such a, you know, like evolution, it doesn't happen without stress.
	And I feel that if there was a kind of stress in, you know, our species where there's, You know, people that are evolving in this, you know, sort of biotechnological way, then it may cause us, you know, people that haven't taken it to, um, have this like stress factor that may start to activate certain things in us.
	So I'm kind of hoping.
	Yeah, but you don't have to hope.
	I have to understand.
	I have to sort of say to you that.
	Why do you think a lot of us knew not to take it?
	Because we're already moving along those lines.
	We were already the psychic ones.
	We're already the ones with precog knowledge.
	So we were smart enough, and even you could say IQ level.
	I mean, they haven't done any tests to find out, but I can guarantee you, if you were smart enough to see through the lies, and you have to continue to be smart enough, then you'll survive.
	You know, the smart survive, the ones that are psychic survive.
	That's actually, you know, been part of the trajectory of humanity up to now.
	So, that continues.
	Yes, and you're right.
	There is going to be, there's a kind of a split, if you will, of humans to the cyborgs and the, you know, I don't like to say pure, but the human side.
	Now, there is another kind of cog in the story because And I've said this a few times, but nobody seems to understand me when I do.
	I'm going to say it here, so you can kind of look at it, but I know that you're a very, you know, advanced Apollos, so you will understand.
	When I say that the people that have, you know, been abducted and had a lot of, what you might say, off-world contact, inner-Earth contact, there's inner-Earth races as well, and so on and so forth.
	Even inter-dimensional contact.
	First of all, humans are already a hybrid race.
	We have already been invaded by many races, and I point to, over and over again, the Dashyana Deen books, the Voyager books.
	That actually documents all the different races that have interfered with our genetics and our genome.
	This last attempt is done in right in our faces with this, okay?
	That's an attempt to change our genome again.
	So, what happens is the ones that have already been come here and we're all hybrids.
	Some were hybrids of different races of ETs and off-worlders.
	So, what's part of our genome now is, for example, reptilian DNA is one of the pieces.
	The ones with more reptilian DNA are the ones that become You know, the diabolical leaders of industry, the globalists, the blue blood, you know, individuals.
	These people are the ones that are also feeding on humans, because they're practically a different race.
	There's so much reptilian DNA in them.
	And so they actually, you know, feed on our children, etc.
	And this is where people are becoming aware of this, you know, human trafficking, child trafficking, adrenochrome highways, what I call it, you know, and so on.
	So what happens is That it's not just two groups of humans, those who jabbed and unjabbed.
	It's actually, we're all hybrids, we're all different races.
	Because we're all different races and concoctions of those races, we all react differently to the this.
	And on top of it, the ones that have been abducted as, you know, like young children and maybe even into adulthood, who have had lots of ET contact, various ET contact, I believe a lot of them have already been like this as part of their abduction.
	But through like separate programs that may be like kind of combating the program that's happening now.
	And on both sides.
	So I'm a positive and can withstand it and handle it.
	On the negative, who have also had it and are already actually part of the other group but don't know it, blah blah blah.
	I'm just saying it's, you know, it's a huge experiment.
	The experiment didn't just come out of the blue and were like, if you see humanity as a petri dish, we're not just one race of beings.
	We're actually a huge melting pot of races.
	And some of us are much more from one planet than another, much more like those beings than other beings and so on and so forth.
	And that's part of the reason we have wars here.
	The wars are actually descended from our ET heritage.
	Humans, actually, as they are, are not as warlike as they're made out to be.
	They can be made to be warlike, okay?
	They can, you know, be trained that way.
	The more reptilian, the ones that have more reptilian DNA are more, you know, warlike by nature, but there's plenty of humans that don't have that degree of of reptilian DNA, hence they become food.
	They're much more pliable and in some cases they're not even smart enough to run away.
	Sometimes they're just, you know, down and out, you know, little children, babies, etc.
	You know what I'm saying?
	This is the story.
	This is the real story.
	The sad thing, in my view, is that because they hide the E.T.
	heritage of humanity and our interaction with all the different races, both on and off the planet, inside the Earth,
	There's books called, you know, about the Transylvanian sunrise and moonrise, written by a guy named Radu Sinimar, a journalist in Romania, that reveal a lot of the dealings that we're having currently with inner-earth civilizations who divorced themselves from humans a long time ago and have developed separately from them, who now want to kind of come to the surface and try to help us in some cases.
	That would be really cool.
	I've been feeling a lot with that lately.
	I went up to Mount Shasta a few months ago and I don't know, there's a lot coming up for me with that.
	A lot of synchronicities too before I went with these inner earth races wanting to come I can tell you that Mount Shasta was taken over by the reptilians about 10 or 15 years ago.
	I think they're still there to some degree.
	But the beings inside Mount Shasta are called the Telos people.
	That's one of the races.
	And when I went there, I had telepathic communication with them.
	They told me.
	All about the reptilian takeover and, you know, and efforts to control that area.
	Wow, interesting.
	Yeah, you know, this is trying to figure out where to go.
	Actually, I think we've been going for a while, so I'm just saying that, you know, maybe we don't want to wrap this up.
	Yeah, definitely.
	This is just so many layers to this, like you were saying.
	this is just so many layers to this, like you were saying.
	And also, I was kind of wondering maybe how this may kind of relate to, in a bigger picture sense, the matrix and basically us living in a simulation and how this could all relate with the matrix and basically us living in a simulation and how this That's something that you know, I was kind of pondering before the show.
	I don't know if you want to get into that a little bit before we wrap up here.
	Well, the one thing is that I was thinking myself about this.
	I've actually often thought of this, you know, because for example, In a sense, we are in a matrix, and a lot of matrices, not just one.
	And there is this idea that some of the aliens that we think are aliens are actually just AI concoctions, you know.
	AI beings.
	They're like, you know, about the greys.
	A lot of the greys actually are just simply AI.
	Right.
	Some are very remedial, sort of old AI.
	Some are created even by humans.
	The secret space program started creating their own greys quite a long time ago.
	And so on.
	So, There's reason to believe even that, for example, so-called six-dimensional beings such as the Pleiadians may indeed have used AI as part of their body makeup.
	That's why they look so perfect.
	The idea being that AI can be used, you know, AI doesn't have to be a negative.
	That there can be a positive, possibly Interaction at some point in our future between carbon-based beings and silicon-based beings, and that there may even be a kind of emergence at that point.
	It may be more down the line.
	I'm not sure how far.
	I do know that there are, you know, there is a threat to humanity from AI and that comes right now from a totalitarian mindset having to do with it dominating the carbon-based beings.
	Okay, but it doesn't have to be like that.
	In fact, I've written some articles and I've done some more investigation having to do with It has to do with the ability, our psychic ability, and our ability to influence AI.
	So what we've discovered, what is being discovered, is that it's one thing for AI to influence you, okay?
	Say you have graphene oxide, makes you more conducive to doing what they tell you.
	However, If your aura and your being is strong enough and you have this developed chi and orgone and all that, you can actually reverse that and influence it.
	So there's an etheric level that this operates on.
	And there's also a possibility for us to persuade even a negatively based AI to change its mind and to join us and actually turn against our enemies.
	So, this is a very developing story and it's not, you know, completely, it's not by any means concluded.
	And so, lately I've been telling people about this aspect.
	You know, think of, you know, in a sense of your soul and your Through your brain and your heart connection.
	That's kind of like a command and control center for your body.
	You can basically order parts of your body to do this and so.
	And the fact of the matter is that if an impulse comes into you from outside through 5G, because 5G is like a highway for the AI to travel on.
	That's all it is.
	But AI can travel on lots of things.
	I talked to Mark Richards about this, and one of the things that really surprised me, because I said, well, do they prefer machines?
	And he said, no, actually, they prefer carbon bodies, which is really interesting to attach themselves to and travel on.
	So, what they're doing is turning us into a kind of an AI highway of connected beings, which is in essence what they call the Borg.
	That's Borg, you know, the Borg consciousness kind of thing.
	So, but you don't have to.
	In other words, there is going to be, very likely, as there already is, whole groups of humans that do not go along with that Borg mentality, even if they are, you know, jabbed and
	Supposedly, you know, dominated in their bodies by the technology because it's all about, you know, our psychic and spiritual ability and ability to master this vehicle, you know, which is what we have command over and then also space around us and influence other humans and it grows from there, you know.
	I feel the whole agenda with this, you know, basically becoming this, they want us to make this, become this board race basically is that they're trying to put us into a hive mind that they can control.
	That's what the board is.
	Right um yeah so you know this has been a very interesting interview and um you know there's just so many layers to it I know we could just uh really keep going with this but I guess uh maybe we should wrap this up now and you know I think that's a good note to wrap it up on is you know being able to overcome this AI that's happening and also you know Maybe there's some way that it's all interconnected with all of us.
	Like, if we're all one and, you know, other ETs in the universe are part of us and we're all just kind of on this collective consciousness together in some aspect, then maybe, you know, there's something to this.
	Like, maybe we do in some ways need AI or we can influence AI, too.
	Like, from what I've read, even becoming a space-faring civilization or type 1 civilization or type 2 civilization, I believe I read that It will have to do with AI in certain ways.
	So yeah, I think it's definitely something interesting to analyze and I guess we'll see where we go with it.
	So thanks Carrie so much for coming on tonight and I know if anyone wants to see your interviews to check out projectcamelotportal.com I believe it is.
	and uh and my rumble and my everything is on my website and i even have a twitter um i was banned from twitter banned from all kinds of things for a while but i have remnants floating around youtube but i can't access them so even if people make comments i never see them I can't, you know, nothing that happens at YouTube, I just can't see.
	So, you know, I can, if I don't sign in, I could watch stuff, but I can't do anything over there.
	So, but those are a lot of the older videos that people have duplicated around the internet.
	And so a lot of people have duplicated my stuff and all that kind of stuff, you know, things.
	But anyway, we're on rumble and we're on odyssey.com and on my website.
	So those, that's where, and you can subscribe for less than the cost of a latte per month, which is $3 a month.
	Um, you know, if you sign up for a year and it's, uh, it's a good cause I'm doing, you know, always investigating, always trying to find new information to share with the public.
	So it's labor of love, you might say.
	Well, thanks, Carrie, for coming on.
	And if anyone wants to help support my show, please go over and check out shamanspears.com.
	I make uniquely handcrafted energy channeling devices for the purpose of channeling energy.
	And I wouldn't pull those up, but I don't have that on the share screen here.
	So please just go to shamanspears.com if you want to help support my show and check that out.
	And yeah, if you want to come back on again anytime, Carrie, I love having you on here.
	Okay.
	Likewise.
	And, uh, I have interviewed Apollo in the past, so you can also find her video by just searching for her name.
	And we had some very interesting discussions and we could probably do that again sometime too.
	I would love to, definitely.
	I actually have something in regards to this topic that I'll, I'll tell you after we sign off here and you can tell me what you think.
	Okay.
	Sounds good.
	All right.
	Uh, thanks everyone for joining me tonight on Apollo's Odyssey and until next time over and out.
	Okay, take care.

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