PATRIOT UNDERGROUND INTERVIEWS KERRY CASSIDY OCT 10, 2022
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Hello, everyone, and welcome to Patriot Underground.
Today is October 10th, 2022.
Thank you so much for joining me, folks, to discover the truth beneath the surface.
I really do appreciate everybody out there taking the time to listen.
So today, I have the honor of welcoming Kerry Cassidy back to the show.
In all of our conversations, I think this is our fifth one, they've all been really informative and really engaging.
So, I imagine that tonight we're going to provide the audience with another thought-provoking discussion, and certainly there's a lot to talk about.
So, Carrie, first of all, thank you for your time, and welcome back to the show.
Oh, it's great to be here.
Thanks for having me on your show.
It's absolutely my pleasure.
So I thought I would start tonight.
I actually had a bunch of questions that I was going to ask, but I remembered that you recently attended the Trump rally and you had posted some comments about it on your website.
So I was curious if you wanted to share some of what that experience was like with the audience before we dive into some of the big issues.
Okay.
Well, uh, it was fun.
And I think.
I don't want people to get me wrong because I was critical and am critical, but I've been critical for a very long time of the political speech speeches out there.
And that that's not just Trump.
I mean, you know, Trump has his own style and, and he's a very charming guy.
Um, obviously I'm a fan.
I want him to be president and so on.
But I also object to the repetitive quality of his speeches and I realize he has comms and sign language and so on.
But my point of view is going back to the days of John F. Kennedy, where we actually had speeches worth quoting.
down in history and remembering rather than just you know and and also I haven't and sort of annoyance with this idea of woe is me I'm the victim blah blah blah I'm being victimized by the dark side the reality is I think the real Trump, you know, left to his own devices is not in that headspace.
He doesn't strike me as having a victim mentality in any way, shape or form.
But he is talking like that in his speeches.
And I think that's a very sort of dicey way to approach an audience.
And I think audiences don't want to hear it.
I think they want to hear, you know, you're coming out strong, you're doing this, you're doing that, instead of being a victim.
And we're all very aware they invaded Mar-a-Lago, but, you know, tell us more about what's really going on there.
The good thing about the speech was that he talked about The other presidents and all the thousands if not maybe even millions of documents that they stole right out of the White House when they left.
I mean Bush senior comes to mind and he that was one of the people who talked about I mean and then they keep them in these sheds these places that are completely you know not guarded and this is our national security this is our Our national history, if nothing else, and these documents actually do as far as I'm concerned belong to the people.
So I have a, you know, objection to that.
And I really would like to hear a thinking, honest-feet individual who is not just repeating the same things, rah, rah, rah.
You know, we know you want our vote, okay?
Even though this whole voting thing is just, you know, insane.
But don't let me get into that whole philosophy.
So, What I want is a more enlightened leader.
If this person is going to be our leader, speak more intelligently, tell us what's really going on.
Maybe be a little bit more frank about, you know, how you and your family feel about being invaded in this way, how you had already given them free entree to your, you know, the whole room where everything was kept, like the week before.
I think it was the week before.
and uh and and basically they they advise you to put a better lock on the door and so you did so and then they come in and break in and invade again invade it anyway i mean you know what i'm saying here is that I don't know who's writing these speeches.
I don't know if he does it by himself and nobody dares to interrupt, or whether he has speechwriters that are just completely, you know, brain dead and basically censored and are told, you know, we can't reveal anything to the American people.
Woo, that would just be the worst thing you could do.
You know, we're such a dangerous audience that, God forbid, you should tell us the real down-and-out truth, okay?
So, you know, that's what I'm objecting to.
I'm objecting to the entire... really, don't even get me started on this whole political game-playing thing that we've got going on.
Again, I want to see some inspired speech writing.
I want to see some, you know, some real, you know, intel coming through to the people.
Every single city you go to, you should have a new piece of information.
Okay.
And it should be stimulating.
And let me tell you, a lot of people leave early during the speech, and I advise Trump not to be the last person speaking because of that.
You know, because people are worried about traffic jams and getting stuck and on all this, you know, they're out in the middle of nowhere, it's dark, whatever.
Just saying.
So, I don't think the people planning these things really have their heads in the right place, frankly.
I know.
Well, it seems to me.
I know they're up against a lot of trouble.
I think an airport is a great place to have a, you know, a rally.
I'm not criticizing that, but...
There are different ways you can approach things and better food, higher quality food.
I mean, why do you treat people like they're just like the lowest of the low and you have all these really low food wagons when you could have, I mean, let's have gourmet food at these freaking events.
I mean, seriously, why don't people get treated properly, you know?
Give them cushions to sit, you know, free cushions like everywhere.
People have to sit down.
They can't stand for hours and hours.
I mean, what the hell?
This, you know, rah-rah.
It's just juvenile.
The whole way these things are set up, what happens during them, it's juvenile.
It's like geared at this really juvenile-minded crowd, which actually doesn't exist.
I mean, more and more people are just so awake and aware, and I was right in the crowd, I was photographing everywhere, and I can tell you that these people know what's what, okay?
Sitting up there and repeating yourself.
And these other people that gave speeches, same problems, you know, they all do the same thing.
It's like, it's somehow this whole political system has gotten, I don't know, politicized in such a way that they, and dumbed down, that they just think they have to, you know, yell at the people, say the same things over and over again, and maybe something will get through their thick brains.
I don't be, I don't like being treated like that.
I think it's insane.
So, sorry to get on a rant here, but you asked.
No, no, it's good.
It's good.
I, you know, I was asking about your take and general what the rally was like.
I'm curious, you know, about the energy, cause that was sort of my follow-up question.
Cause I know that's one of the hallmarks of a Trump rally that people talk about is this incredible energy that people have in the crowd.
And I was just curious because at this stage of the game, as opposed to, you know, when Trump was running and even when he was running for reelection, You know, the rallies had a different kind of energy, but at this stage of the game, I'm wondering, is it different?
Because as you said, you know, so many people are awake and aware, and You know, is it the same kind of a crowd, the same sort of a mentality as it used to be in your opinion?
Or do you think something has changed amongst the people?
Because it seems to me almost like he's, I mean, I agree with you, he's using his speeches for comms.
I mean, there's definitely a lot of his speeches that are still cloaked in mystery.
And I think that in many ways you're speaking to that, like, come on, let's just come out with it.
But I also think in some ways he's using These speeches and the rallies, similar to what Juan has been talking about recently with the Matador analogy, kind of to bait the enemy by, you know, waving the red MAGA cape.
You know, I'm not sure if you buy that.
I know that you follow Juan, but I'm curious.
So, you know, was the energy different?
And, you know, do you think that there's some something going on there with him trying to bait them into perhaps making a move on him?
And that's something we're going to talk about anyway, so.
What are your thoughts on that?
Sure.
Well, I mean, I think there's good energy.
I think it depends where you are because my choice was to come like a little later, which wasn't super late.
I think I got there at 5 and he spoke at 7.
So, I was actually still there ahead of time, but a lot of people, they open the doors or whatever at 2.
So, People come there, you know, they've got their families.
It's kind of lovely, really, the way they are.
And they're all really dedicated.
So some of them park far away and walk in, you know, and they could be walking in, you know, a mile or something across this football field kind of thing.
And then you get in there and it's kind of nice because they don't ask you for ID.
They do search, you know, like search you to hold out your arms and that sort of thing, which is good.
You know, so he has protection and such.
But it was a beautiful moonlit night.
I think nearly a full moon.
I took photographs and, you know, a couple of them are on my website.
What can I say?
The energy in the people is good, okay?
The people are upbeat, but this is just my take.
Now, I wasn't down in the front in the thick of the crowd, so maybe there, you know, when you get closer to a stage, I'm a performer.
I understand that there's different areas, you know, people have different sort of approaches to things, but the bottom line is, I think, As we get towards the end and the anticipation is very high.
And by the way, Michael and Dale did come through the crowd.
He came through the back part where I was, so I did get a photo of him.
That was very sweet of him to come to the into the back of the crowd, you know, but.
It would have been nice if Trump started there and then walked up to the front, you know, I look I'm a performer.
I'm looking, you know, I'm I mean, I'm even a film director.
So I see things like that.
I see things like how could you make it better?
How could you bring the people closer to you?
You know how and I know there is legal and all kind of protection things that you have to be really careful of and such but just the thought so anyway.
I don't know the other rallies I saw.
I know it looks like they're very upbeat and I know that they are.
They're dedicated but it's almost like we've been working hard for, you know, ever since the election, okay, which is 2020.
So this is 2020.
So almost two years or more than two years, yeah?
Yeah, there's a fatigue factor.
At least, this is just me.
I don't want to, you know, be judging for everybody.
I just want to, just, you're asking my observations.
I'm just going to tell you, I feel a subtle resignation in the crowd.
Okay?
In other words, they're there.
They're doing their job.
They're showing up.
Now, it's up to you.
That kind of thing.
You know what I mean?
They're long-suffering.
They're a little bit, Leery and wondering, is this thing that we've been working so hard for so long gonna, you know, be exposed?
Is the steel gonna be exposed?
All of us are like that, I think.
We're all, at this point, a little bit weary of Promises, promises!
You know, and now there's a lot more to talk about because we're going to talk about this latest intel coming through this guy S.G.
Anand, who calls himself, I think, Patriot News something.
And I actually wrote to him about a post that he made, and I distributed the post around yesterday, I think it was, early, or maybe it was the night.
I work all night long, so I lose track of which day was which.
It's basically the one that I sent you that has, you know, SG and it says, he's done like, this is the 16th major release of information.
And he clearly indicates that he's being given intel by the White Hats, that he also is, he's able to read the Q drops and to compare, you know, some of the things happening to older Q drops and stuff, which is fun.
You know, it's great.
And he's doing a good job.
However, he said, big headline, right?
Supreme Court cancels 2022 election and then he talks a little bit about that and it starts, I put a post out telling people where it approximately started so they could, you know, get up to speed really quickly if they didn't want to hear the whole thing.
And I think it was, I don't know, 28 minutes or whatever it was in, I don't have it in front of me, but I just want to say, and he said an interesting thing about a tweet that Elon Musk sent out that referred to the Supreme Court and war.
Okay, it was very sort of an oblique tweet on Elon's part.
But S.G.
Anand is wrapping that into this possible Supreme Court move, which is over a case having to do with if they hand the legislatures of states, state legislatures versus state courts.
So that's the dilemma.
And whether or not the state's legislatures have the control of the elections on a state by state basis, if that's true, And this is uh the the actual case I think centers on one one place which might be South Carolina if I recall correctly.
But you can watch you can um actually I linked everything on my telegram and I I explain everything on my telegram uh and I did all that in the middle of the night last night I think.
So um but I just want to say it's an epic times article.
That's what it's resting on.
I don't know that there's any other um legitimate okay dependable news sources that have actually put this out i heard recently that charlie ward is supposedly saying this i heard someone else is saying this but you can decide whether or not that's considered a reliable source or not there's some issues there but
The fact is that 107 has been saying this is going to happen for probably a year, and he says it on almost every single interview he does, which is a lot, okay?
If you want to call them interviews.
So, what I'm saying here is that, but he never pointed to the Supreme Court as being the source of the change.
No, that's right.
He never did.
Sorry?
I was just agreeing with you.
That's right.
He never actually is mentioned.
I don't think the Supreme Court.
I think there have been others who have.
Okay, but this case hit the Supreme Court docket as being a case that they would consider In June of 2022.
So here we are in October of 2022 and suddenly the article comes out in the epic times kind of focusing on this case.
They what they did is couch it in a bunch of other cases that are currently on the docket.
And then they actually said that this case wouldn't be heard until December.
But then I talked to a certain source behind the scene who has a military background, very knowledgeable guy, and he thinks that actually what the Supreme Court could do with that case is decide to hear it on a much wider basis than what it currently is, which is actually not including the 2020 election.
It's like from a certain point on being recent, like 2022 on, That if the state's legislatures are given control of, you know, according to the Supreme Court, of elections from that point on, it never says that they're going to, you know, go backwards, right?
To 2020.
So you understand.
So overturning 2020 is not necessarily under consideration.
However, according to this friend of mine, Uh, he says that they because of the Supreme Court, there's this law he sent me and I don't have that in front of me, but it basically says that the Supreme Court can can decide whatever parameters they want, whatever they want to consider.
Okay.
Whatever case, even case, they can they can basically decide that's their prerogative as as the Supreme Court of the land.
So that's very interesting because that does open the door to them.
As I say, you know, I'm not a lawyer, but I understand law to some degree and opening the case wider, making it wider.
So it would encompass what happened during 2020.
The specific case they're considering, if I recall, might have been, I don't know if it was the primary or it might have been another thing that went on during the past two years, but it might have been 2021.
As I say, South Carolina, if I remember correctly, I don't have it in front of me.
People have to refer to the article.
It's linked on my telegram.
So everything is explained there, linked there and so on.
So you can go read that article.
And by now, of course, that was last night.
I'll bet there's a bunch of other people and sources coming forward talking about this issue.
So.
What does that do?
This places not only Juan as being correct, but he never said how it was going to happen.
And he also, as I recall, he has said that he believes the election will be pushed.
He didn't say it wouldn't happen.
He said it would be pushed maybe 30 days or it could not happen.
And that as a result, we could have the beginnings of some civil unrest.
That would then trigger the military to come forward.
As I recall, that's kind of the sequence of events.
So this, he didn't say a Supreme Court ruling, he simply said that the Um, that the Dems would had a vested interest, of course, because they're going to lose so many seats in the House and Senate, um, that they don't want the election to happen.
All right, because it's not going to happen in their favor.
It's looking more and more like that.
So they have a vested interest in cause in something causing our election to not happen, but it will have to be something pretty substantial.
And certainly the Supreme Court ruling would be substantial.
But other things could happen as well.
You know, there's been speculation, you know, a nuclear incident, something going on with Biden where he steps down because he's completely A brain-dead clone, shall we say?
Hello?
And clones don't last that long.
They need a new one, but they actually don't want to keep him, so we're going to get what we get.
And then Kamala is basically not eligible to be president because she's not a citizen, or she wasn't a citizen.
She wasn't born in this country.
Even though Obama got away with that, which he did get away with it, but the reality is that he wasn't born in the country anyway.
But they're not going to make that concession for her, apparently.
And because Pelosi is foaming at the mouth to be president, God forbid.
So we got this complete Crazy person is your alternative to a clone.
I'm not sure if that's a choice, you know, for us.
You understand what I'm saying?
Sure, absolutely.
Yeah, well Juan has been saying that this is the part of this pantomime or movie or whatever you want to call it that's going to be popcorn worthy.
He always talks about that page in his book and You know, qualifies that by saying that they are going to pull some sort of a maneuver to try to get Biden out of there.
Now, the question really is, is And no one really knows the answer, of course, is the sequence of events.
Is it going to happen before the midterms?
I mean, all of these things could happen.
I mean, you just went through a whole bunch of different scenarios, and I'm kind of wondering if all of them may come to pass.
I mean, I'm sure, you know, some of it's disinformation, but a lot of this stuff really looks like it's going to happen within the next several weeks, because, you know, we're only about a month out, and My understanding really is that if the midterms do go forward and, you know, we don't see any major event or any, you know, intervention between now and then, am I correct in thinking this?
That it would seem to me that 2020 is kind of in the history books at that point.
I mean, if they're allowed to just move forward with the midterms and, you know, elect a new Congress, I mean, are we ever going to go back and get justice for 2020 under those circumstances?
Well, obviously that can't be allowed to happen.
And, uh, I think part of the reason that, um, Juan is kind of rooting, almost rooting, it just comes down to that.
When he keeps saying Trump is going to be arrested any minute, that almost sounds like he's rooting for him to be arrested, which is kind of the white hat.
If people don't understand their modus operandi, the white hats, They actually allow for the dark side to make fools of themselves, to do diabolical things, which they're intending to do anyway.
They don't use the energy to stop them.
They allow them to get away with it, so that they can show the people how completely, you know, diabolical these individuals are, and how we're, our whole, you know, our whole country, let alone world, is been run by these, these really You know, Satanists.
So it's not necessarily my choice or my way of doing things.
I can understand their motivation for wanting to show the people over and over again.
The trouble is when you do that for so long, then people begin to wonder, well, are you really working against the dark side or are you actually facilitating the dark side?
At which point you become responsible.
I've had that discussion with some very hardliners who are kind of military types that aren't putting up with this shit.
and stuff but they don't they have to understand that first of all and i get into this many times with people but they just have to get this that the white hats were born
In and around the Kennedy assassination, whether they existed before that, which is very likely they did, it's a secret organization that decided to... that they knew they were up against a cabal that used the secrecy to operate and to basically steal our elections, to steal our freedoms, and to slowly turn us into a totalitarian, Borg-run, AI, you know, orchestrated state.
And world, okay?
So, the transhuman agenda has always been on their horizon.
A lot of people don't realize this.
So, COVID was just the coup de grace in that whole trajectory that had been going along ever since, well, probably the Nazis came over with Project Paperclip, and that's back in 1945, and so on.
So, and after that, so, you know, the Dulles brothers and the so on, you have to understand that the Bushes were all on board with this agenda.
All these people, you know, Merkel, you know, Macron, all these people are satanists.
They believe in a satanic ruling of humanity and they believe they are your gods, okay, in essence.
Yeah.
And big mistake.
But nonetheless, that's their thinking.
And again, you can see how their thinking permeates every aspect of our lives, including, to get back to this beginning subject, the speeches that politicians now give.
Why?
Because back in the day of John F. Kennedy, he was killed in essence for the speech he was going to make in Dallas.
Okay, people maybe don't realize he was going to tell the people about the alien intervention, about a lot of things that were going on.
He was taking down the monetary system.
He was taking down the CIA.
He was doing all the things that the White Hats have now been working to do for the last However many years it is since the Kennedy assassination.
I don't know.
I don't have... Can you say how many years?
So...
Not exactly.
Matt's not my strong suit.
Okay, so we're both hopeless.
But just saying, you know, that understanding if you've got... These are military and ex-military.
They are agency, ex-agency.
They are, you know, authority, you know, types.
You're talking about law enforcement of all types.
You're talking about secret organizations.
You're talking about individuals who have been in all forms of the military worldwide.
This is not just, the White Hats are not just United States, okay?
And people don't know that.
So if you don't understand that this is a worldwide effort and that Trump is, in essence, the commander in chief of all of it, and that he's orchestrating this, look, he acts like a good old boy on stage.
He is brilliant, okay?
I know he's brilliant behind that, but his approach is a lot of like, oh, you know, poor me, when in reality, what about all the jab people dying?
Can we talk about that?
Hello?
What was warp speed?
Are you about to tell us now?
Warp speed has been and done.
There are still athletes dying, but are you going to talk about that at all?
We have people dying in our midst to this day, like just a few more football heroes or whatever died That's always been his Achilles heel, in a sense, or at least on the surface, based on everything that we can see.
That's the hardest thing, I think, for folks to wrap their brain around, is his approach to the vaccine.
So I'm right there with you on that one.
I mean, I've done entire shows speculating on the topic, but really, at the end of the day, we know that the truth is coming out, as you're getting at here.
Where is he going to win?
I guess what I'm trying to say is, and I got to let my dog out.
So just hold on one second.
But what I got to say is that, and this has kind of been my position all along.
A lot of us in the know say, get on with it already.
You know, we've always saying that, okay?
But I also think that is a point at which you wanna show people, you wanna show people, you wanna show people, hello, they know, okay?
The ones that are gonna wake up, have woken up.
The ones that aren't, you can show them all night and all day, they're not gonna get it, okay?
I think we're very close to a place what I call the diminishing returns from a certain action that you want to take.
Oh, I agree.
Yeah, I agree.
That's where a lot of the things that I'm saying, I probably would have said from the beginning, but they really matter more now.
I think people can hear me now, okay?
We cannot stand here and let these people talk down to us any longer.
We're too, even as a huge body of humans around the world, we're too awake.
And you can thank COVID for that.
Okay?
The lockdowns for that.
We saw the direction everything was going.
This is a totalitarian takeover using AI and technology to basically supplant And to control human beings.
That's where we are.
Now, I think whatever direction you want to go from here, just let me know.
Sure.
Yeah, you brought up a lot of really great topics.
I mean, I guess, you know, gut reaction, I mean, your gut feeling, do you believe that the midterms are going to go forward on schedule?
Just a quick kind of yes, no.
What do you think?
Let me put it this way.
I hope to hell not.
Because what does that mean?
That means they're going to pull the wool over people's eyes one more time.
And I don't, you know, I just, I think it's just insane.
I think you may even have people getting so fed up they don't even bother to vote.
Now, I know that the ones who showed up, like at the Trump rally and the Trump rallies, obviously they're, like I say, they're world weary, they get it, they're going to do their bit, you know, they're going to show up at the polls, they're going to try to, you know, they're not going to mail in their ballots so someone can steal it, and so on and so forth.
You know, this stuff goes on to Dominion machines.
They're not stopping it.
You know, they're not stopping the machines.
They haven't exposed that part of the steel at all, really, even though we know they've got that data.
I agree.
I agree.
There's no point in having another election until they can clean their house and set it up properly.
I think anyone with half a brain knows that.
Now, whether they're going to, you know, the deep state is going to do that nonsense and blah, blah, blah.
And then, you know, the white hats are going to claw in, you know, for their Few actual MAGA candidates and they'll try to, you know, turn things a little bit.
You know, that's not really a desirable outcome either, okay?
So middle of the road is kind of like out the window because what we really need is you're either gonna be with the White Hats and you want to save the world and you want to stop the pedophilia and all the world leaders that have been sucked into that Epstein type of trap and are already, you know, feeding on adrenochrome.
There's adrenochrome junkies, which is, you know, child sacrifice and taking the fluids and using it to make yourself look younger.
Hello, Hollywood, you know.
These are all problems with humanity.
And by the way, let me just say one thing, and this is kind of a little off topic, but People are so rah-rah med beds right now, okay?
But I just want you to think about this, okay?
The dark side wants to kill you.
They are killing you.
They're hardly gonna allow you to have a real med bed that's gonna, like, replace a torn-off arm with another arm, you know, like...
this the technology maybe some lower level version of this is out there but people are dying right and left it's not available widely blah blah blah you know and and in a certain level of that
If you just suddenly think you're gonna use a med bed and then you don't hold the people to task who are poisoning you and your fellow human, do you see how that doesn't solve the problem?
It's just, you know, humans have got to take responsibility for making this world a livable place, a place that we can raise children in, Without a guilty conscience.
Without feeding them poison.
Without poisoning the water, and poisoning the food, and poisoning the lighting, and poisoning everything.
And lies, lies, lies.
Advertising lies, lies, lies.
The whole freaking thing is built on lies and programming and MKUltra bullshit.
And that especially includes Big Pharma.
So, there's a lot of house cleaning to be done, even if the White Hats win.
That's just the beginning of cleaning the house, you know what I mean?
That's just allowing a good, well-meaning regime to be in place, and the military coming forward with the things they've been doing, going into the dumps, and so on and so forth.
You know, this is a time of disclosure whether people know it or not.
We are going to find out exactly who we really are, what our superpowers really are, and that we don't need technology to find that out.
We don't need technology, okay?
Technology is useful.
It should not be a crutch, because we are built in the image of the Creator, and we have incredible abilities and powers.
All we have to do is go inside, release those things, And begin to acknowledge who we really are.
And those powers, whether they be psychic abilities, remote viewing, or, you know, or other superpowers that are really being born in our children right now, that are more accessible to them than to, say, older people who never really knew, you know, they're like the tin man with the heart.
They always thought they had to be given a heart by the state, you know.
Not all of them.
Okay, thank God.
I don't want to ramble here.
I do want to get to the missing submarine.
I think that's a valid thing to discuss.
And I also want to talk very briefly about the attack Putin just attacked.
I think it was a base somewhere in Kiev.
I forget what the exact building was.
You know what I'm talking about?
Well, yeah, I've heard about the missile barrages on Kiev, yeah, in response to the bridge brawl.
There was a specific target they got.
Anyway, just saying that...
If you paint the picture, it's very important to realize that Putin has actually been pushed into a corner.
And that NATO is dying to have a war, literally.
And they're gonna die to have a war.
That's what they want.
But I was listening to someone who actually, and even Trump came out like a day ago, basically saying, let's make peace in the Ukraine.
It's kind of like a balancing act because Putin was really also going in on behalf of the White Hats and the American, you know, the real under President Trump and under the real military and going in and getting rid of the bioweapons labs.
Now, some of that, unfortunately, probably won't be destroyed.
Some of it will just go underground even further.
This is, you know, the way the things operate.
You know, we can't be naive, okay?
We can't be like, I don't know, Pollyanna or something like that, where you think, oh, they're going in and saving all the children, and all the bio labs are going to be gone, and they're never going to try to bioengineer humanity again in the future.
You know, you have to understand, this has been going on to humanity.
If you read the Achaan Adin Voyager books that are on the front page of my website, the history of humanity goes back way further than we think it does.
Way further than the Bible, okay?
And we came from the stars as well.
So it doesn't matter what race you're talking about.
And locking it down into a nice little, you know, bible-sized number of years and so on and so forth.
This doesn't solve your problem.
Humanity is a developing human species.
We are a melting pot of races.
And we come from all different places in the galaxy.
This is a grand experiment to see if those races that are at war in the galaxies can get along if they're all put on one planet together.
Plan.
Net.
Okay, it's a net with a plan.
Oh, I've never heard that.
So with that in mind, uh, let's talk about the submarine.
Let's talk about your theory.
Um, now I told you that there is a blockade.
I have, I have some whistleblowers on this subject.
So I've been told that all of the ships, um, gonna remember this guy's name.
One of, one of the people out there has been saying that all of our ships have, um, seafaring vessels and submarines and such have all gone to Britain.
and all of the British Navy is also on alert as well as possibly backed by some other countries even considering possibly Australia who's been trying to build submarines and so there's a big deal on submarines and and all this so they have been moving things all over to Britain but
To be form a blockade between around Greenland and so that Russia cannot apparently send ships over to the shores of the eastern seaboard of the United States.
So that's one thing going on.
There's also been rumors that they could release a kind of a torpedo type, I'm not great with weapons, but whatever you call it, that would cause a tsunami-like wave that would then flood, they said at the time, the city of London.
Now that sounds a bit absurd to me, Well, apparently this weapon, I heard one talking about it, it's called the Poseidon.
Right.
And it's a nuclear device, but somehow it manipulates charges or energy in the water to cause these tsunamis.
And, you know, of course, the Russians boast that, I think you maybe alluded to it, these waves that are, you know, tsunamis that are a quarter of a mile high.
And he kind of said, well, yeah, that's, we might dispute that a little bit.
But he conceded that it, you know, it's definitely the type of a weapon that could wipe out a coastline.
And also can be, can acquire a target from very, very long distances.
So I've just been curious, because he's been talking about this nuclear standoff.
For such a long time.
And, you know, he's always been very cryptic about it, of course.
And at one point in time, I mean, I've speculated about it from all different angles.
I thought maybe, you know, when China finally makes a move on Taiwan, because, you know, this is something we've been anticipating.
It hasn't happened yet.
I thought maybe Taiwan and the U.S.
may somehow end up in a nuclear standoff.
But it seems to me with them deploying this submarine, I think it's called the Belagrad, and it's carrying this Poseidon weapon.
If it surfaced or, you know, somehow came into our territorial waters, that could definitely trigger that type of nuclear standoff situation where, now the way Juan describes it, you have Strategic Air Command inside Cheyenne Mountain that is basically warring it out with the Senior Executive Service, which is the opposing continuity of government organization, which is the Globalist, the Deep State.
And he's been describing this scenario where All of the military communications, all the computers, how built into them, hardwired into them whenever there's a nuclear threat or a threat of a nuclear engagement.
That the computer system scrammed back to Cheyenne Mountain.
That's correct.
But he's also been calling it a Cuban Missile Crisis type event.
That's right.
And I guess he called Lavrov, I thought it was Lebedev, but I guess it's Lavrov, also quoted him.
He's a Russian in the high levels of government there.
So So, acknowledging it's a Cuban, let's talk about what was the Cuban Missile Crisis event.
Because, strangely, I have a, you know, this witness, Captain Mark Richards, who told me, actually it's interview number 12, if you want to look it up on my website, that I did with him.
I've done 12 interviews over a period of five years.
interviewing him in prison.
He's a starship enterprise type captain in the secret space program, touring the stars if you will, going interstellar and at a certain point arrested and thrown in jail by the deep state.
He's been there for over 35 years, considered to be the mastermind behind the murder of a pedophile,
by a group of a couple two or three young men who were actually one of which was a victim of a pedophile when he was young the others one appears to be and maybe both of the other ones do appear to have worked for the for the you know the state for the deep state so they were actually probably put there to goad this one particular guy who ended up in jail all these years as well Whose name?
I don't remember.
But at any rate, so we're looking at a frame-up of this individual so he would be in prison.
It's a deep story.
There's a lot to it.
I'm not going to get into that.
But one of the things he came up with the last interview I did was telling me that the Cuban Missile Crisis and the Bay of Pigs were not what they seemed.
Now, I had already done quite a bit of investigation and read this very interesting book by this guy whose name is, his last name is Gray.
It's a fake name.
I think it's Ashton Gray.
Anyway, he wrote a book about Uh, how the CIA, uh, manipulates events and one in particular and uses, uh, L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology methods, methodology, uh, to do so.
And that they, uh, one of the things they did was basically get rid of Nixon.
So they've deposed a number of our leaders, including Kennedy.
And in the case of Nixon, one of the things is that he was very instrumental and involved in the organizing and running of the Bay of Pigs and also, you know, he was around during the Cuban Missile Crisis and that he had, when he was in office,
This huge, I don't know what you want to call it, problem that he he fretted over, even out loud, such that everyone around him knew about it.
And there's some, I've written an article called Presidents Who Know Too Much.
You can search it on my website.
It goes into all of this I'm talking about, if you want to research.
That actually sounds familiar.
I think I may have read that one.
It's very, it's a fascinating story at any rate.
So the reason I'm bringing it up, because when you refer to this as a Cuban Missile Crisis, it's kind of interesting, because that was not what it seemed either.
And I don't know what this, how that really relates, if it's just an easy reference, because you know, supposedly we had missiles that were going into Cuba, and there was a moment at which there was going to be some kind of You know, standoff and Kennedy had to make a decision and so on.
So in that scenario, we have missiles supposedly being forced by NATO this time.
Okay, so it's kind of a reversal, if you get my drift.
Into being close proximity with Russia, so pressuring Russia and Putin basically saying he's not ruling out using nuclear weapons to stop this encroachment into what he considers his territories.
Which, by the way, Ukraine has never been formed as its own country, supposedly, and that Putin still Russia is it's still a territory considered a territory of this of Russia.
Now recently Crimea and the Donbass areas have been you might say formally annexed by Russia and there may be some other areas that he's going to continue to do that with but it's only also because what happened was And this gets into George Webb.
And unfortunately, for some reason, Juan and other journalists rarely mention George Webb, but he's a wonderful journalist.
And he tends to get into the real roots of what's going on.
And he can name names and players.
Behind the scenes.
So we're not just talking about, you know, Zelensky, and Zelensky does this, and Zelensky does that, and when in reality he's like a puppet like Biden, more or less, and an actor to boot, and he's basically paid off, one can see, handsomely, a relatively young man, a Nazi to boot, as well.
And what you can find out is that this, I don't know, drug lord, he's called Kolomoisky, is actually the mastermind behind the whole Zelensky thing.
And that, on top of that, this we get into Klaus Schwab, who is, it does appear, according to George Webb's, you know, sort of strategy, Showing the trajectory of where things came from.
It looks like it was a speech that Zelensky gave to the World Economic Forum at the bidding of Klaus Schwab that started this ball rolling in having to do with NATO encroaching and moving and pushing Putin against a wall.
And that it was done in part, apparently, because while there was a number of things at work here, one of the things has to do with a fight over who's going to supply gas and oil to Europe.
And is Europe going to be dependent on Russia?
Or are they going to be dependent on Some other pipeline one run in the background by the United States, the deep state United States.
So there's there's an economic fight going on on top of it.
I possibly seeing the writing on the wall once the cobit thing happened.
They started searching for Wuhan-type biolabs around the world, and that was always going to be released.
It was always coming to the fore, and apparently even the Taiwan invasion is going to expose more of that.
So what we're talking about is In an overall way, the bioweapons labs are not just about killing humanity using, you know, these concoctions of evil drugs and so-called diseases, right?
It is about bioengineering humanity.
This is the real drive, okay?
Klaus Schwab will know exactly what I'm talking about.
The rest of humanity, not so much.
Now, do you think, Carrie, that the White Hats are just as interested in bioengineering, or do you think that they're interested in putting a stop to it?
Okay, yeah, now that's a very interesting question, because that gets into the secret, what I call the secret space program.
And this has actually been my specialty for and a lot of my whistleblowers come from that over the last 17 years of doing this.
Okay, so doing interviews sporadically with whistleblowers coming out of that secret space program.
And what I can tell you is that's a question.
So let me tell you something about the satanic agenda.
The satanic agenda is relies on technology to save Supposedly save humanity.
What that is, is turning us into cyborgs and androids.
And also, of course, a way to control us.
Now, they want to keep some humans possibly a little low-tech so they can, in essence, boil them down and eat them.
Sorry to say, to be point-blank here.
But in the meanwhile, most of us, they don't need.
They have more than enough food supply, so to speak.
The reptilians, there are not that many of them.
There are a lot of greys, but the greys are subservient to the reptilians and the Dracos, and they do what they're told.
And so what we have are marauding species that are also run by AI behind the scenes, apparently.
And understanding there's an agenda.
So there's an agenda of takeover of planet Earth and humans.
Now, the White Hats don't want me talking about this, okay?
They want everyone to just focus, well, it's just Trump and the White Hats, the good guys against the bad guys.
They will acknowledge the Satanism.
They will acknowledge the Adrenochrome Highway.
That's what I call it.
You know, the whole Epstein Island, Get getting all the Congress control of the Congress people and all the people at the top.
So they're addicted to what's called adrenochrome which is boiled down basically drinking blood and fluids.
from humans they have become they have they are more reptilian okay these people that have made it to the top echelons of our society why because the reptilians are you know top-down civilization they believe in you know me first and and basically telling everyone else what to do power over others so
When you look at this scenario, it's really important, I think, to start to get a worldview, not just like Democrats and Republicans.
They all shy away from the non-terrestrial element.
I understand that, but even if you want to do that, you still have to see the major scenario going on here, which has to do with Beating on ourselves.
A part of our humanity here on earth has been sequestered, recruited, bought in to a certain kind of agenda that involves and goes back eons.
You know, I studied Gobekli Tepe, which is one of the oldest sites, if not the oldest site so far discovered on planet Earth.
And I went there and did a documentary there.
But I also stumbled on a journalist researcher who was, I think he was English or Irish, and he went there in person.
And what has been discovered there, but never made it into the news.
much is the fact that they have discovered lots and lots of the skulls of children.
buried under Gobekli Tepe and in the vicinity of the that vicinity of the Middle East.
Why?
And this journalist went into and they had to actually go into investigating the secret societies which you know are the Satanist societies and going back eons and turns out they're all about you know blood sacrifice, killing children, The whole nine yards, all right?
Now, Juan has hinted at some of this, but these old cults that are associated with not just the Jewish religion, but other religions as well, but they are separated from those religions because they are obsessed with this satanic, blood-drinking, human sacrifice.
In other words, it's made it through the ages.
Now it exists in these small, quiet little villages in the Middle East and these secret societies of, you know, whatever.
I'm not going to label certain religions, you know, but they exist in many aspects of various old, old religions going back and these breakaway groups.
So this has been, think of that as those small enclaves through history and then the Illuminati also being like that, and they're beginning to basically sell it.
And if you don't know that this sort of lifestyle has been sold, all you have to do is watch some Netflix movies lately, as well as major Hollywood movies, all about blood, all about gore, all about killing.
This is their religion, okay?
Human sacrifice.
So it's a portion of our, we have to be honest, this when I say cleaning house, this is going to require releasing this information so that everyone knows that they could be sitting across from like let's say their boss at MGM or some record company or wherever and he you know in his free time is going and being part of these
Satanic rituals that involve blood sacrifice.
It's insane, but it's true.
And the White Hats know about this, so they decided as one of their mission points to take that whole thing down.
And one of the things that Trump has done, even during when he was in office, you're aware of this, he went around to world leaders and he basically gave them envelopes And he basically showed them that he could expose them totally and completely out in public if they didn't, you know, basically do what they were told.
He blackmailed them.
That's in essence what's happening.
So, you know, this is a war.
Like, it's a total war.
So, you know, There are so many levels to it, but I don't want to get off the point.
Yes, this submarine could come and threaten us with a tsunami-type weapon, but you know what?
We have those too.
I mean, one man's tsunami is another man's weapon of war, whatever you want to call it.
Well, let me ask you a question on the non-terrestrial stuff, since you, you know, we can get back to the sub as well, but I'm just curious, because, you know, I do notice that, and I think you and I have sort of danced around this question in the past a little bit, but, you know, you don't really hear 107, and you don't hear a lot of, you know, the high-profile insiders, quote-unquote, talking about the non-terrestrial element, and I'm wondering if you believe it's because at the top, they're also controlling the White Hats.
Um, no, I don't actually, I think, you know, you have to listen closely to one.
And now, one of the things that one did, and you have to go back and research him when he first came out back in the day when he was talking to.
God, what's that guy's name?
You know, he came out in the early days with this pilot.
I forget his name.
Anyway, he's out.
He's still out there.
He has done shows even with the Hagman and Hagman Brothers.
Okay, you can search it on the web and you'll see that he actually talked at length about the whole ET thing.
He always talks about it from a biblical standpoint, which is a little bit, you know, twisted because, again, the Bible only started at a certain point, okay?
Humans existed long before that.
So, that means that we were being genetically manipulated long before that.
So, this whole history of humanity It doesn't start with Adam and Eve in this nice little biblical story that was actually more of a parable than literal, okay?
So, for whatever reason, he wants to use, he wants to limit it to that.
Maybe he feels comfortable, he studied with the rabbis and they gave him a bunch of raps to, you know, put out there and a bunch of, you know, Christian, you know, whatever you call those people that rant about Christianity and so on and so forth.
He likes that, okay?
He feels comfortable conveying information that way.
Some of it is excellent, okay?
Some of it is really, really good if you take his meaning, but if you get Caught in the weeds and you start getting literal about it, you know, then you're in trouble because it's not quite like that, okay?
That's why I do shows deciphering Juan's, you know, some of his intel because, you know, folks really appreciate that because he can go on sometimes for two hours and so I go through and I just try to distill some of the main points but I agree with you.
Yeah, the parallels, the biblical parallels, the metaphors that he uses are really insightful.
But, you know, a lot of people don't really see beyond kind of the literal part of what he's talking about.
I agree with you.
Exactly.
So, you know, the meaning gets lost.
But at any rate, you're asking me about the, you know, the off-planet side of this.
It exists.
It's very real.
It's much more real than you'd like to know.
But the fact of the matter is, is that even if we don't go there right now, it's going to crop up for sure in the future.
Number one.
And number two is the AI side of it.
is massive.
The AI threat to humanity is massive.
Now, there are good AIs as well, okay?
And I was talking to Nino on a program recently and I basically said, hey, it's possible that we can influence an AI to come over to our side, in essence.
It's completely possible.
We are amazing, okay?
We are You know, we are God's sparks.
We are sparks of all that is.
You know, that power, there's nothing to match it.
Not even AI can stand up against that power.
So it can be influenced by us, okay?
We're gods and goddesses in disguise.
We are part of God.
We are all Sons of God and daughters of God.
You understand?
From my point of view, you can, you know... I agree.
Absolutely.
Oh, like Jesus was the only son of God.
No, that's not what they're saying.
What he's saying, what I can do, you will do more.
That and more.
He's saying you are also sons and daughters of God.
That makes us equals.
Hello?
He doesn't sit on some mountaintop looking down.
Right?
So, like, let's stop seeing these individuals.
You know, the whole reason... Well, I don't know how long we're going, but I've done whole presentations explaining the kings and the queens that the Anunnaki selected to represent them here on Earth, and basically they wore a crown, and the reason the crown is symbolic of what's called the crown chakra
And it's when it's totally activated it shines like a crown and you don't need a crown because you got a crown.
Hello?
And, you know, it's in all of the symbolism on the temples and so and so forth, in all the arts going back in ancient history and so and so.
Those crowns that little angels wear, the little halos or whatever you call them, that's a crown chakra.
You know, that's just symbolic of angelic, of godlike powers.
So it goes all back there.
It's symbolic.
It's all it's all in the symbolism having to do with what things that yogis have understood for centuries.
OK, but most people don't understand.
Isn't that what they do with their... I studied that in my 20s.
I meditated all day and all night.
I reached Samadhi multiple times.
I linked all my chakras and so on and so forth.
And that gave me amazing healing ability and various things that I can do and that things that you know precog abilities enhanced because I was always psychic but I got enhanced precog abilities from that and so on and probably saved my life to this day.
So you know these are things that everyone wants but most people aren't willing to do the work to get them.
Yeah, and it ties back into what you were saying, really, about med beds.
And I've heard you talk about that before, that you can, I mean, even if you had miraculous treatments that could even regrow a limb or something like that, or, you know, cure some sort of a disease, that the disease itself goes to a much deeper level.
And until you address that deeper level of dis-ease, the symptoms are just going to keep coming back, or it's going to manifest in some other way.
I think that's kind of what you're getting at there.
Yeah.
Yeah, because humans are much more complex than we give ourselves credit for.
And we're also talking about things that come with us from past lives that are unresolved.
So, you know, getting an arm or losing an arm, that's not really what it's about.
It's about resolving how you got in that position to begin with and what you're really trying to tell yourself.
Because a lot of If not all.
Disease, pain, whatever you want to call it, is basically us feeding back to ourselves experiences either we've given to others and we didn't understand or we got and still didn't resolve.
So it's a very huge, it's all about human enlightenment.
Bottom line, everything that happens on planet Earth is about enlightenment.
But of course, I digress, and we're going off subject here, so I just, I do want to come back.
I want to say that this is a very interesting dilemma happening right now.
This is more nuts and bolts.
S.G.
Anand, who has done, like I said, 16 videos.
On, I think it was the 7th of October, which was Friday, did this video, as we've talked about, that announced that the Supreme Court was going to basically overturn the ruling and make the legislatures in charge of the election.
And if that happens, the reason it's important is because all of the states where the legislatures Did challenging um whatever they call those people um uh whatever they do that during the electors okay so they had challenges to the electors other electors that they would have put in place had They've been allowed to.
If they're given control, and it's ruled that they actually should have been in control of the election in 2020, there's enough states that had what they call challenging electors that Trump would have won hands down just based on that alone, not even relying on the stolen vote, apparently.
So in these states, the electors, is it the governor or the executive branch of the state government that's putting forward these electors when it really should be the state legislature putting forward these electors?
Well, no.
What I understood is it's the courts versus the legislatures.
The courts.
Okay, so the courts are putting forward all of these electors, where the state legislatures, that's been, in a sense, usurped from them by the courts.
And that's what this case is really focused on.
Yes.
And that was basically illegal on their part.
Okay, go ahead.
So so okay but the reason I wanted to bring this up again is this is very interesting.
Now I have been waiting all day because it was said that he was going to he was so supposedly he came out on the 7th which was Friday and at the end of the video said he would be doing a follow-up soon and i thought perhaps it was going to be the next day or the next day so either saturday or sunday he didn't come forward and then here we are on monday and we're late in the day on monday and he still hasn't come forward with a new video
Now, like I said, I did research.
I found out it came from this Epoch Times article that actually, you know, pinpointed this thing that Supreme Court was considering.
Behind the scenes, he had behind the scenes information that he said is they had already ruled, okay?
In other words, and Charlie Ward is saying the same thing, and there's a couple others saying the same thing.
So now they're saying that they ruled to cancel the I'm sorry did they say that their ruling was to cancel the midterms or was it a ruling about the 2020 election?
Well it's canceling the midterms but it is seems to be linked up with this ruling having to do with the legislatures.
Got you.
I got you.
Which could in essence overturn the 2020 election and put Trump immediately in the presidency.
Now Some people might think, even Juan, and I try to, you know, I text Juan with everything all the time and he never answers me anymore because he's so afraid of speaking to me that he'll leak something that I'm not supposed to know and so on.
But anyway, A certain person who's in touch with Juan on a regular basis and I are in contact and so I shuffle my stuff over to him sometimes when it's really crucial like this.
So I wanted Juan to weigh in on this legislature Supreme Court thing that S.G.
Anon is putting out there.
I haven't heard anything about it but I can tell you that in a certain sense this fits in with the scenario that Juan was saying would happen.
Some people might not recognize this, but if our Supreme Court, it's kind of, think about the Roe versus Wade, right before it got overturned.
Remember all the rumors that came out ahead of time?
Yeah, I do.
Okay.
It seems like we're back in that land again.
A leak from the Supreme Court, perhaps, coming out, SG&On's White Hat getting it, beating it through SG&On, becoming a rumor.
You see what I'm saying?
It's kind of the way they like to do things, which is, you know, it's kind of a soft landing as opposed to just boom right in your face, right?
So if enough people are right now out there scrambling, especially the early up, you know, the people that are on the uptake sooner than the rest of society, Then a lot of people today should be wondering, is there going to be an announcement by the Supreme Court based on this Epoch Times article hinting at this, even though they said it wasn't going to happen until December, right?
But again, my contact saying, but the Supreme Court could change that up at any moment and decide to hear that case and have already decided it.
And the word on the street, as they call it, is the Supreme Court has already decided that case.
And that the summation of that was a postponement of the 2022 election.
Because if they were to overturn this case and they were to allow it to go back to 2020, it would mean Trump won the election.
These are electoral college votes, I guess.
And then that would throw the whole country in an uproar.
It could even cause a civil war type or civil unrest type thing, which could then trigger the military.
So, if you follow me.
So, we're at the brink of this, okay?
Now, whether this will... you know, I don't know what SG Anon is going to be... I don't know if he's going to get in trouble because he put too much out there.
You know, it's always interesting to see somebody come out with information and then suddenly kind of stutter and not actually deliver, right?
Yeah, well, he came onto the scene relatively recently, right?
Very, very.
Yeah, very recently.
I've actually heard, because I've shared some of his stuff as well, I thought it was very interesting information.
I've had some people question whether he was Phil Godlewski, you know, like rebranding himself.
He's not.
I don't think so either.
Yeah, very interesting to see how that's going to play out because, like I said, it's kind of ironic where we are right now in the Patriot community.
It seems like it would be a more volatile situation if nothing happens between now and the midterms than if we have some sort of a nuclear standoff.
I mean, that's how on edge people are.
I mean, we're just so anticipating A major event.
And, uh, yeah, I mean, with, uh, I remember with Roe vs Wade, you brought that up.
It was, I think when it first got leaked, the story was, oh, no, where, you know, we haven't, you know, they backpedaled on it.
It was just an opinion.
It was just a draft or whatever.
And then a couple of weeks later, boom, the hammer dropped.
So it's, It's going to be a wild ride between now and midterms, but I for one hope, like you said, I really hope that we do see a major event between now and then because I just wonder how
I mean, because, you know, there are people out there like Kash Patel, and there are a lot of prominent voices out there who are kind of following this narrative, which is, we're going to have the midterms, all of the stopgaps, you know, the fail-safes or whatever, to prevent their fraud, or at least enough of them have been put in place to prevent them from being able to steal the election.
The election's going to go through.
We're going to get real patriots in there.
We're gonna flip the tables on them and start all the investigations on the bad guys.
And I mean, it sounds great, but I just, to me, I just don't really see it playing out that way.
And I think a lot of people out there are sort of feeling, in a sense, the same way.
We'd like to believe that that was gonna happen, but you know, how many times have we had an election where we expect we're gonna get a certain result, and then it just, even if it goes the way we think it, we wanted it to go, You have to ask yourself some questions.
Our patience is just gone, I think, for a lot of people out there, and I think that something's got to give.
Well, ask yourself how many rhinos are going to get in place instead of MAGA Republicans, even if that happened.
Right.
And secondly, to me, the real writing on the wall was this thing that Wano Savin has talked about quite a bit, which is that Biden and Pelosi in this group have actually brought in Antifa behind the scenes into this
you know organizational meeting all about supposedly running the 2022 elections when you've got so what is that the fox guarding the hen house type of thing yeah right i mean that classified executive order and classified it yes so not only did they let antifa in the meeting but they classified it so that regular people and republicans wouldn't know anything about what the hell they they decided to do
And so, you know, again, this is a war.
And I don't see, you know, they were talking about block parties, where they're going to watch all the mailboxes.
And you can understand where this is also a problem.
That's like food for, you know, fodder for revolution right then and there, at the boxes, okay?
Absolutely.
That's where Antifa is going to show up.
steal the election, they got to put those votes in.
And they're going to have to do something tricky.
Maybe they'll just make you mail them in or something.
I don't know.
In other words, not using a box, but putting it in the mail, the post office or something.
All I'm saying is there's so much between now and then that I certainly do agree with Juan.
And I And this is another thing, which is kind of interesting to me, has to do with Juan painting the Deep State as a bull, and Trump as the matador, and that he's taunting the bull.
wounding the bull and that eventually though hinting that as the matador he's going to be taken down or at least incarcerated put it you know put in um you know um house arrest i guess uh type of thing And this is what I think that Juan is thinking along.
He doesn't really explain beyond that, you know what I mean?
But what happens when Trump is arrested?
I mean, he could be arrested.
He's just done a lot of rallies.
It sounds like he's kind of saying, goodbye, I'm going to be offline for a while.
I'm having my final hurrah here with a lot of rallies.
I think that he could go under house arrest, and then the question is, do the people rebel when that happens?
See, that's the crux of what Juan's really saying, but he never really explained that part, right?
Well, no, not really.
Well, first of all, with the Matador analogy, one of the things that popped into my mind, because I've talked quite a bit about this as well, he's referenced, you know, the way that the Matador fight, you know, in typical Juan style, you know, he tells it as a grand epic tale, you know, the way a bullfight goes into three different rounds.
But the point I'm making here is that he did very specifically say that there is a point in the bullfight where you have to make the move.
You have to Take that kill shot, you know, and like you said, you know, they're wearing down the deep state bull and, you know, Trump is waving the MAGA flag.
He's out there in his rallies.
He's taunting them.
He's giving them ammunition because as far as the January 6th committee is concerned, the fact that he's out there saying that he actually won the election is treasonous and that he's inciting a revolution.
He's inciting civil war.
I mean, this is the direction that they're headed.
And I think that he that's what one is kind of suggesting.
But he's also suggesting that there is a time limit.
You know, that at a certain point, if you don't kill the bull, you don't get the kill shot, the bull gets to go on living.
And the fight is over.
So you kind of have to wonder about that element of the metaphor.
Is he saying that if this doesn't happen, and this kind of goes back to an earlier question that I asked you about the midterms, you know, If this kill shot doesn't happen before the midterms, and the midterms go forward, and 2020 is essentially in the history books at that point, it would seem to me that, you know, we ran out of time.
Whereas, you know, like this can't go on forever.
Well, I think that's obvious, and I think the cut-off point is the midterms, whether they happen or whether they don't.
And this recent move by S.G.
Annan, and this kind of sneaking up of this particular case to do with legislatures, that seems to be on the money for overturning a whole election, which, if they chose, could be the 2020 election.
Up to now, it's been very clear that the courts are basically taken over.
They're a captive operation, okay, so that you couldn't get justice from the justice system, as Juan said many times.
So it's kind of funny if all of a sudden the Supreme Court is going to actually come through in some kind of quasi-heroic way to overturn, you know, to be the instrument by which this election would be exposed and overturned.
Hard to believe, okay, just from my point of view, you know, when you've had... I can see that as well, yeah, definitely.
It's hard.
The courts throw out all the, you know, the cases that were brought before them to do with the stolen election, you know, making standing this sort of amorphous ruling of standing that you couldn't... you had no standing, so you couldn't bring evidence.
I mean, it's just insane.
So our Courts are definitely taken over in this country, most of them.
I'm sure there are a few judges that haven't, you know, that have been threatened but managed to stay alive and still do a good job.
But, you know, so we really are looking at a hinge On the Supreme Court, all of a sudden.
Now, I find that hard to believe, but, you know, I'm a believer also in keeping an open mind and believing in miracles, in essence.
And that would be a sort of a miracle, wouldn't you agree?
If they actually came out, ruled for the legislatures, and brought it back to 2020, and overturned it, and Trump was back in office.
Now, There's one other aspect to that, which is a little darker aspect, which has to do with civil war.
If that were to happen, they may be gambling on civil war.
Now, there's a reason to believe that not only do they not want to have the election in 2022, the Democrats, because they're going to lose.
But they would also like to have civil war.
Why?
They work for the CCP.
They work for the governments that, including the Vatican, the reptilians running the Vatican, to take over our country, the UN, to take over our country.
If you want to look, you have to kind of look at their agenda items.
What's at the very top?
At the very top, Slightly below the transhuman agenda is that they want a new world order that they completely control under the AI, of course, the Borg, which they have now called Homo Borg Genesis, are the Vax people.
So what they want is that for sure, but they know that they can't get their new world order until they get the United States to stand down.
That'll never happen under Trump.
I mean, anyone who has half a brain can see that Trump is never standing down.
If there's going to be a new world order, the worst you can accuse him of is that he'd want to run it.
But the fact of the matter is that, of course, ostensibly that's not his point.
What he really wants is the American people and him at the forefront and his team of white hats to go the right direction and to steer us in the right way to turn this ship of state around, okay?
So, if you look at that item, then, see, because let's say the Supreme Court acted and put Trump back in office, or ostensibly did, what they may be bargaining on, again, is a dark theme.
They may not have suddenly become good guys.
They may actually have a dark plan, and the dark plan is civil war.
Why?
Because if we're civil war, if we're in fighting among ourselves, Then all the Chinese at the border, all the alien-human hybrid, you know, grey-human hybrids coming down into our country through the gates, the southern gates, all the Chinese, you know, that have incorporated into Canada, and so on and so forth, can have free reign to just come into the country and take it over.
They can try.
Now, they won't, I don't think, succeed, but I do believe that that is part of their agenda.
Contrary to a lot of people out there that say, no, they don't really want to invade.
They have been steadily invading us and buying our land and taking over, I mean, Long Beach, you know, they took back Long Beach, thank God, but They wanted to own Long Beach, which is one of the major ports on the West Coast, of course.
I mean, so, you know, you have to look at this, is that if they get their civil war, what will that mean?
Will we have revolutionary war at the same time as we have civil war?
Or what will, you know, will we have complete chaos?
Or what will happen under those circumstances?
Because you can bet that putting Trump in that sort of Office, right?
Even like in the next month or two.
I don't know what's going to happen to these.
A lot of these people are so brain dead in the program.
They've been watching CNN and their news media.
They are the mockingbird media for so long that a lot of them you can't even talk to them.
Yeah, and they have a lot of sleepers out there as well.
Yes, and some of these are actually friends of mine.
People that, you know, I had a huge show in which people just went crazy because I got in big arguments.
Well, I may as well say his name, with Sean David Morton.
Why?
Because he wants to be complete in denial that the White Hats even exist, that Trump might be a good guy, oh my god, and that, you know, Of course that 107 is JFK Jr.
and Trump and JFK Jr.
are in cahoots in the white hats on top of it that want to rescue children from the bases and are doing so and that there's real evidence for it etc.
He's in denial on all of it and this is a guy who considers himself psychic, considers himself seeing the future and so on and so forth.
I mean prophets can be wrong, psychics can be wrong and they are wrong every day.
But people went crazy defending Sean, you know, oh my God, you know, how could I, you know, argue with him?
How dare I?
So, you know, you have to understand where people's mentality at, even intelligent, well-read, supposed people.
Now, Sean's excuse is he was in, when the White Hats were coming to the floor with Q and all that, he never followed any of it and still doesn't, doesn't want to even know about it.
So he doesn't look.
And that's true of a lot of people.
My family members, they've got no clue whatsoever about this.
Doesn't matter if I talked all night and all day, they just think I was crazy.
In fact, they do think I'm crazy.
So, you know... Mine too.
You have to understand how this goes, okay?
So, these are the people that we know and love, that are in our midst, that are in complete denial.
Complete.
And these are the ones that are well-informed.
God forbid you talk to the ones that know nothing.
Like zero, less than nothing.
Like the ones being brought across the border to vote in elections.
Talk about an uninformed electorate who's not gonna bite the hand that feeds them.
The Biden hand.
The clone.
The hand of the clone.
They don't even know he's the clone.
They don't even know he's dead.
Well, it's interesting because you brought up this whole conversation about civil war, and I know you probably have some other thoughts on it as well, but it's interesting to me because I think that there's a greater At least from the patriot community perspective.
I mean, you know, who knows what's going through all of these psychotic people on the other side.
I think there's probably, you know, maybe 10% of them or maybe less that are hardcore enough that they're going to really want to get violent.
I mean, I don't know.
But as far as the patriots go, I think that there's a greater threat of a civil war Like I was kind of referring to before, alluding to before, if the midterms go forward and nothing happens and they're stolen, then even if Trump is arrested, see, I think that while Trump being arrested... I think that's a non-event.
See, it's hard to rebel against a non-event.
Yeah, you do have to understand that.
It's kind of like objecting to a negative.
If they happen and nothing unusual goes on, then all the same nonsense will continue.
This also gets into the EBS.
You're aware of that, right?
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I'm talking about if they go forward and they're clearly stolen like they were last time.
I understand.
But what I'm saying is because that's a moving target, you know, what are we going to do?
Discuss for the next four years whether 2022 was stolen?
Because that's what we're talking about.
We're talking about like Sisyphus pushing the boulder up the hill and then having it Push down again and then starting it back up the hill again.
No, it's not actually, at least from the White Hat point of view, okay, and the White Hats are backed by the military, a portion of the military, which is quite substantial, and there is no doubt whatsoever in my mind that Trump is truly our commander-in-chief.
In fact, you want to talk about comms, he hinted at, he had a comm at the You know, event in Minden, Nevada, that I was at.
The one thing he said, he said it under his breath.
He said that, I think he said back in the days of Clinton, they lost the codes, the nuclear codes, and Biden lost the codes, but that he has them.
That's what he said.
He said, they lost him, but I have him.
And then he just continued on as if he never said anything.
So I don't know how much of the crowd caught that.
I certainly caught it.
And I know that, see, I've heard that before.
Okay.
So I'm not surprised by that.
To me, that's not a big, you know, revelation.
Yes, of course, he's got the codes, you know, that even is, there's even reason to believe that's the real reason for why, why they went into Mar-a-Lago.
Stupidly, but nonetheless.
But more of a standoffish kind of like knowing that the codes weren't like in one of the boxes.
No, but trying to force him to come forward and play ball with them and trade the codes maybe for his freedom, let's say.
I mean, you can think of all kinds of diabolical scenarios, right?
So All I, you know, I think what you were really gonna hint at, though, was also that the MAGA people, to some degree, are not actually oriented to wanna go violent in the streets.
That's actually not how they think.
They all, you know, they believe in home and family and their preppers and all that, but they're not gonna get their guns out unless they're led by someone, okay?
This is my point of view.
So, who are they going to be led by?
There's one aspect which says the militia.
There's another aspect that says the National Guard and some other military, maybe Space Force, I don't know.
You know, in other words, maybe the Marines, because they're on the ground and Space Force is not necessarily on the ground kind of an organization.
it's to do with cyberspace one says over and over again except until the day when they admit they actually have to do with outer space as well hello but that's another matter and that's going to come later so so all i'm saying is that Actual civil war, what does it look like in this day and age, and are we really talking about that?
It's not clear, okay?
Let me just say that.
It's not, you know, this is not hand-to-hand combat with, you know, this is not even on the level of Ukraine.
The interesting thing is, if you want to look at war and how war operates at any time now, it's cyber.
A great deal of war is going to be cyber from here on out.
It's not even going to involve humans, and it's not, by the way, going to involve human-type soldiers.
Super soldiers, yes, not human-type.
Get it?
Oh yeah.
Keep that in mind, because it's not going to look the same as you might think.
Nobody cares about the White House, so nobody's going to try to get that.
And it's already under National Guard anyway, and from what I understand, Biden isn't even there, I don't think.
But it's a satanic site anyway, so basically it's going to be abandoned in our future.
The attack places, you know, think of where are attacks going to take place.
You know, you can really start to game this out and see that there are certain strategic places, but that in the everyday, you know, like I live down the street from people that I'm sure are not Republicans, I'm not going to go shoot them, you know, come on, hello.
Yeah, I know.
Absolutely.
It's like there needs to be some real thought into understanding what does it mean if there is, yes, there's a portion of society like the, you know, Antifa and others that have been Soros organized to actually go burn storefronts.
Well, I lived in LA during the riots.
Yeah, they burned storefronts for a while down the hill from me and then eventually they got bored and that was the end of it.
I mean, it doesn't go anywhere, Bernie.
Well, I'm actually wondering, and I'm curious your thoughts on this.
Do you think, because, you know, one of the things you said, and I completely agree, we're not just going to go pick up our guns willy-nilly and just, you know, start attacking people.
That's not who we are.
And if that's who we were, I mean, you know, the world would know it by now.
Let's just be honest.
I mean, if you try to put people in FEMA camps, if you try to take away their guns, if you try to take away their children, if you put boots on the ground, That's a whole different story.
Or if we start to see states seceding, you know, there's been talk about Texas, you know, possibly seceding, you know, having... But it's UN troops.
It's not going to be our guys against our people.
You know, it's going to be the ones that are part of the deep state.
And we will be fighting military if it will be the people against The military, the Chinese military, the, and by the way, them putting Chinese police officers, I mean, can you say Biden and, you know, and Hunter, CCP, you know, hello?
Nancy Pelosi and her husband, these are traitors.
They're American traitors.
Hello?
You know, I can't believe this is even a question.
It's so obvious.
Do you think they're going to try to run a false flag perhaps with Antifa dressed up as Trump supporters to get something going maybe after a Trump arrest?
I don't know.
They kind of already did that with January 6th.
It didn't work out well last time.
But if they arrest Trump, I wonder about that.
Maybe while the emotions are high, they arrest Trump.
There will be people, there will be soldiers, you know, but the soldiers, basically the White Hats have to have, what do you call this, war game this out over and over again.
They probably know exactly What they think, what the AI tells them, in essence, and the generals then either agree or disagree.
But what's going to be the trigger?
That kind of gets back to the Supreme Court move.
Is it going to be a move by the Supreme Court?
Or is it simply arresting Trump and then seeing what the people do about it?
Or, you know, Where's the spark, you know what I mean, that's going to ignite the flame, that's going to basically, you know, throw down the gauntlet?
And meanwhile, think about it.
Why would the people aligned with Trump get involved in a civil war when all they want is for Trump's military to stand up and get the UN troops out of our country.
Get the Chinese police out of our country.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a military job.
It's not up to the people.
It's not up to the individual, you know, people with their guns to do that.
Now, if we have to, we'll do it.
You know, I have no doubt that Americans are totally the ones I've met Oh yeah.
Totally prepared to go mono-mono with any foreign trade.
More so now than ever.
More so now than ever.
Yeah, I mean, but it's always been that way in America.
I mean, you know, so that's actually... But again, this has been war-gamed, and they think they know the trigger.
They may consider Trump just being arrested out of the blue, They may consider it the Supreme Court move and Trump being arrested.
I mean, how those two could go together, I have no idea.
I mean, there are scenarios in which the United States does end up in kind of split, okay?
And some states, you know, the blue states going in one direction, the red states going in the other, that kind of thing.
I don't know, you know, but I can see there's as we say, you know, it's not here.
We're not here today to solve the problem or to, you know, to even prophesy the future.
What we're really here to do is raise the questions about.
What are the scenarios that we can see?
What's already unfolding?
And the Supreme Court piece is a new piece that has been making it, you know, coming forward slowly and could have legs as we say in the media business, right?
On the other hand, I'm sure that right this minute Juan is probably doing an interview with somebody in which he's lecturing them on what's going to happen what's not going to happen and so I at the moment am in the dark as to whether he considers the Supreme Court move as even a viable move.
I can tell you that from my point of view he's a lawyer He has a Q clearance.
He's a general.
And so whatever he says, I'm going to listen to because he has that standing in the White Hats and with Trump.
But, you know, you can decide for yourself what you want to believe.
Oh yeah, absolutely.
I'm right there with you with Juan.
I mean, I'm pretty much right on the same page.
I think I have been for a while now in terms of who he is.
And like I've said before, even if he's not who we suspect him to be, he's certainly an individual of influence.
There's no two ways about it.
And information.
I mean, I have it from a very good military source who told me, you know, I'd already known it, I'd already heard it, but it was just verified, you know, like two weeks ago.
above, you know, Q above a general, equal to the three-star generals at the least, and I've heard even better than that.
And he's part of a secret special forces group.
I mean, he, you know, keeping in mind, he didn't die in 1999.
Think about all the years he had to kind of make choices and remember who his father is, Remember his vow to avenge his father.
Remember that if they did try to kill him and his wife, wouldn't he have even greater resolve to continue the quest?
So, you know, you just have to wrap your mind around these things.
Yeah, and the Cuban Missile Crisis takes us right back to the Kennedy era as well, and he's been talking about that for quite some time.
That's why, you know, when I heard about the sub, my ears perked up and I kind of connected the dots with this.
Nuclear scare event, which he's been talking about as well.
And then, of course, there's also the financial meltdown, which looks like it's, you know, I had Jim Willie on recently.
He was talking about how the dollar is just, you know, going to continue to skyrocket as they try to, you know, recall all of their capital.
Demand keeps going up right before the collapse, which I think is probably going to happen right around the same time.
Do you have any thoughts on the financial aspect of things?
I get very different reports from my sources, and I have some sources that are actually working for the dark side.
Who tell me things like, this will never happen, you know, the dark side continues to be in control because they own the right to issue and so on.
And I have huge, you know, long discussions with these kind of people.
It's kind of interesting, I have to say.
What it comes down to are a certain group of the families in Basel, Switzerland.
The bloodline families are in charge of the right to issue and they're not going to let it go.
And that in order to run the world or change the who runs the world, in essence, that when the White Hats are done fighting everything under the sun, you can imagine on top of that, they have to gain what's called the right to issue.
They don't gain that, they are not in charge.
Now, that right to issue is given to that group of families Apparently, I'm told, by the Anunnaki.
Who are on and off planet so that they until they have decided to allow humans to run our own affairs.
They're going to continue to give these, you know, anointed individuals in Switzerland the right to issue and to control try to control our lives.
This is where push comes to shove and I just want to say another footnote when I said that Mark Richards talked to me about the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis.
What he said about that, which I found fascinating, is that they weren't about what people thought they were about.
And he hinted, and I tried to probe further to get more detail, and all he basically would say is it had to do with the gray aliens.
So, when I fast forward to now and I look at the so-called Cuban Missile Crisis, the one keeps talking about, knowing that one knows damn well that we have, you know, Reptilians and Greys and Draco,
Then I wonder, what is it that the Greys are really doing, and that gets into the AI and to the transhuman agenda for humanity, and whether or not the question becomes whether the White Hats, and you kind of asked this question already, whether the White Hats can actually fight that agenda, or if they even want to.
And I believe they want to, if you listen to Juan.
He's not about to go get jabbed anytime soon, as you may know.
And he has the whole time, contrary to what Trump was putting out, basically said, don't do this.
Not only publicly, repeatedly, but also to all his friends.
And he's one guy with a lot of friends.
Take that on board and consider it.
Doesn't mean you have to believe it.
I'm just throwing this stuff out so that you see what I see and that this playing field is not always what it seems.
Well said.
Absolutely.
All right.
Well, we've been going for a while now.
I think maybe might be a good time to wind it down, Terri.
Anything you want to share with the audience?
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That's a marketing, you know, ploy to see how much they can get away with.
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That's for sure.
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I try not to use it too much personally, but it's just roped into everything.
All of these systems that they've created.
Well, it's made life easier to give and receive money, but nonetheless, there are other methods.
And we're going to see, again, cleaning house.
Everything like this has to be overturned.
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The Nazis that are embedded in the system have to be exposed and basically run out of town or just abandoned.
And then they'll have to change their ways or they won't be part of society.
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So hopefully, Carrie, we'll have you back on the show pretty soon.
I'm sure there'll be more developments to discuss as we get closer to midterms.
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