I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
We had a very strange problem between YouTube and Zoom.
They wouldn't connect to each other.
Sorry for the delay.
I've got Jackie Lowe here with me.
And Jackie, please say hello.
Hello.
Okay.
Hi.
Thank you.
I'm here.
Great.
So Jackie Lowe is a contactee and I'm afraid with all the technical errors I don't have her bio in front of me.
So Jackie, I'm going to ask you to give yourself a short introduction.
Oh, okay.
Well, my name is Jackie Lowe, and I reside in Southern California.
I started a website a couple of years ago called CosmicMeet.com Connect in 5D, which is one of the things I'd like to chat about today.
I started to have...
Contact in 2016 after, well, actually in the midst of a lot of loss in my life.
And I, at that point, was activated to start my mission in Ernst.
Being pushed, basically.
And through all of the events that happened in my life, realized that it was time for me to embrace my mission.
And so I suppose we'll be chatting about what that is and what Cosmic Emeet is and also about my contact.
Sure.
Okay.
So what we'd like to do here is determine, you know, sort of a way forward, what you would like to do.
So...
You have a saga that involves some of the tragedy that did happen to you and kind of woke you up, or however you want to term it.
So maybe you could detail a bit of that so that people, it kind of sets the scene for why you're coming forward now.
Okay.
Well, I think I would like to, first I'd like to say thanks for having me here, and Also, I just want to say I saw your shows yesterday and I agree with you wholeheartedly that it's time.
It's time for the world to see.
Disclosure and what's gone on and what is going on.
And I'm all about that, too.
So I think that's part of my mission as well.
I'm not necessarily a whistleblower, but I do feel that unlike what you were saying yesterday, where many say we aren't ready, we are ready, or we wouldn't be going through this right now.
We are ready.
We're ready to know the truth.
And I'd like to see it put out there.
So I'll just say that.
Well, you know, a little bit of backstory and how I can frame this in terms of where I am today.
I had a pretty unstable childhood.
And my parents divorced when I was very young and got back together and split up again.
And my mother was emotionally unstable at that time.
She tried to commit suicide at one point when I was very young.
I went to seven schools in eight years and we moved a lot and so I came onto this planet basically You know, saying, what the heck?
You know, where am I? What is this?
And as a child, I pretty much wanted to just hide under a desk.
I mean, you know, I went to school and I wanted to be invisible.
And I was always having this sense of...
Things are just, I can't count on anything.
Nothing's for sure.
I did not feel at home here on the planet.
And I knew, always knew, even as a young child, I always knew something's just not right here.
This just doesn't feel right here.
Many years later, I worked with a teacher who shared with me A really gifted teacher who shared with me that I wasn't actually a very evolved human.
I hadn't spent a lot of lives here.
I spent many lives here, but I hadn't spent a lot.
I mainly had this cosmic background history.
And that makes sense to me because I just never have felt, you know, like at home here.
And I look at what's gone on my whole life.
I just turned 62.
I've looked at it and I've just always thought this just, you know, doesn't make sense to me.
What we're told and what is actually happening.
And so I started to explore the esoteric when I was quite young, actually.
Things just happened for me and information would come to me.
I had this real deep connection to the Christ consciousness when I was young.
I wasn't raised religiously, but I always had that.
And eventually I started to go to church on my own because I just wanted that connection.
But then I would sit there and listen to what I was being told.
And I thought, this makes no sense.
I'm not buying this, you know.
So it was a dichotomy.
But as I got older, I started to explore, you know, Tarot and astrology and You know, the normal things that are available to you.
And at one point I lived in the garage of a older woman who, when I went to college, she smoked a corncob pipe and she did tarot and she was so cool.
And it kind of expanded my world at that time, you know.
Fast forward to 1986, I was gifted a book by Shirley MacLaine, Out on a Limb, which you're probably familiar with.
Most of your readers are probably familiar with.
And interestingly, it was gifted to me by a person who is a devout Christian.
And I hadn't seen this person in a long time.
And she just was like, here, take this book.
And I thought, okay.
And as I read it, I thought, wow, why would that person give me this book?
Because this is not their thing, you know?
So as I read this book, I had an epiphany about energy.
I literally was reading it.
I called a friend of mine up at 11 p.m.
I said, get over here.
I've had this major awakening.
And it was an activation and at that point it was, you know, basically saying everything is energy.
And once I embraced that notion, Then all things became possible to me.
Everything.
The way that I tried to view how things fit together on the planet.
The good, the bad, the, you know, all of this.
It just started to make sense to me.
And so I consider that to be a major awakening in 1986.
And at that point, it became very serious about my spiritual development, researching.
And I started to go to classes.
I, you know, I... Did two years of courses with the Church of Religious Science, you know, which at the time was the perfect thing for me in looking at the larger picture.
And at the same time, I was having all kinds of experiences that were otherworldly.
And I got to where I just accepted that in my life.
You know, I had dreams.
I saw things.
I had, you know, premonitions.
I had dreams.
You know I shared with you before I had a this feather manifest six inch white feather manifest in my sock while I was at a health club things like that that were taking me outside of my reality and saying you know there's more there's more at that point I started to go to workshops and classes and and we weren't really into the online stuff at that point but I went to a cryon channeling when he was
first starting back in, I mean, early 90s.
I discovered David Icke, his books.
I actually spoke with him at one point way back in the beginning, like 2002 or something like that.
And my world was expanding even more from, you know, you can do things with crystals.
You can do then the ET and looking at crystals.
The fact that we are in a limited consciousness on this planet, in a matrix, and that there are not just these wonderful airy-fairy good ETs or angels, but there is a very dark, dark component of that.
And that pretty much rocked my world, too.
Because I was, you know, before I was like, oh, everybody's great.
So I had to really consider...
How does this play into my life?
Why am I being shown these things?
Why am I coming across these people?
Why am I so fascinated with this?
And I opened up a metaphysical bookstore in a town.
I've always been ahead of my time doing things because I just think, oh, do that.
We need it.
And then people are like, what is that?
This was in 95 in a small rural town and people didn't know what to make of that.
I have a Theater history for over 30 years.
So I've worked with a lot of people.
I've worked with nonprofits.
So I... Coming to...
Actually, the question really was, again, sort of to start with some of the tragedies, if you could...
Just jump.
I know that we're kind of jumping timelines.
And then if you have to circle back to explain a couple of things about the problem, but just to focus on specifics a little more than general.
Okay.
We'll help.
Okay.
All right.
Well, in 2014, my mother was diagnosed with progressive dementia.
And I had recently moved, a few years before that, moved back to the area where they lived.
And she and I were, you know, best friends.
She was a single mom growing up.
And to see a vibrant, you know, amazing human, because she was a good human.
And I feel like, you know, she taught me...
So much of who I am.
To start to disintegrate in that manner was, you know, just very hard.
I opened a business at the same time I was having my brand opening for this business.
My mother had an episode at my brand opening.
And it was a domino effect after that.
I... My marriage, I discovered my marriage, my 29-year marriage wasn't what I thought it was.
And, you know, I look at it now and I think we were just on different paths at that point.
We didn't resonate anymore and we did what we needed to do.
We came together for it.
But when you build a life with someone for 29 years and you have children and you have each other's families and friends, That is, you know, a very difficult time.
So I had my mother who was at that time going downhill, progressing quickly.
My marriage was tanking.
I was trying to take care of my business and do it all because I was my main advocate for my mother.
And I separated and I knew that I was probably on the path to divorce.
I was living alone on seven acres with four dogs and three cats and two birds and trying to manage all of that and keep my new business going and help with my mom and I lost a dog and it was actually my mother's dog but I'd known it since it was born and it had come to live with me when they couldn't take care of it anymore so that was tragic and then my mother It
was getting even worse.
So in January, she died.
And if anyone has had anyone die of dementia or Alzheimer's or anything like that, you know, it's just really hard to see a person lose their sense of self.
And then my beloved, right after she died, my beloved Aussie was diagnosed with cancer.
And I'd have him put down.
And it was just like, boom, boom, boom.
And then I was just getting to where I was like, okay, I can start to deal with life and move on.
And how am I going to get divorced?
And how am I going to do this?
And my home burned in a forest fire.
And it was a total loss.
A total loss.
And it was an emergency evacuation.
And so, you know, I grabbed...
Two things and that was that.
And at that point in my life, luckily I had a relative to go to because I had all these animals.
But at that point in my life, I really had to assess, you know, what the hell.
I mean, You know, you have that scale of stressors in your life and they say, if you have divorce, it's this many points.
If you have this, it's this many points.
And if they would have taken me and put me on a scale, I would have been literally jumping off a cliff because it was just one thing after another.
And I have to say that two things sustained me.
One, my already belief system of how things work.
And to my cosmic family, my angels and my cosmic family, who are literally with me all the time.
Okay, so all of that happened, and at that point, you sort of had some...
Did you have specific contact experiences that then led you in a certain direction, or how did that evolve?
Yes.
Well, actually, my contact started after I separated in February of 2016.
Specifically, that's when it happened.
These other things hadn't happened yet.
But I separated, and I was alone, and I was up in the mountains, you know, and I had a puppy with my other dogs.
And I said...
Well, actually what I did was I put her in a little kennel thing at night and she was a few months old.
She was staying in for the most part and making it through the night, you know, I was potty training her.
And, you know, in the mountains in Montana in the winter, it's cold.
The last thing you want to do is be heading outside, you know, in the middle of the night, especially I lived up where there were a lot of predators and such.
So she started whining around 3.30 a.m.
And I was like, oh, Lily, you know, go to sleep.
I don't want to get up.
And I just had, you know, puppy pads in the house because I didn't want to go outside.
And she whined and whined and whined and she wasn't going to drop it.
And I thought, okay, you know, so I got up and for whatever reason that night or that 3 a.m.
in the morning, I said, you know what?
You can go outside.
And I opened the door and I had, you know, my Aussie at the time and I said, Go.
And I lived in a berm house, so I was built into the mountains, so I couldn't really see.
And I just felt some, I felt a comfort, like, it's okay, she can go out.
And I went and stood on my deck waiting for her to come back.
And I noticed this It was a huge cloud off on the horizon and I was at a higher elevation so I could see it was like, not that far above me high, you know, in altitude.
And there was a light rotating in it.
And it was huge.
It was massive.
And I looked around and there were no other clouds in the sky.
A billion stars, a beautiful Montana winter night, you know, no other cloud.
And I thought, oh my gosh.
And I immediately knew.
I thought to myself, oh, well, you know, okay.
What do you want?
What are you doing?
Because I had already been in this world, you know, and I'd looked for him before in the sky and, you know, I was basically just waiting, come and talk to me.
And It just stayed there.
And because of my frame of reference from the treetops, I could tell this cloud did not move.
It did not move an inch.
And it was the only cloud.
And so it was cold and my dogs came back down and I thought, you know, I need to go back in.
It's cold.
I went in and I looked out the window for a while.
I never left.
And I was like, well, you know, okay.
Good night.
I'm going back to bed.
And two hours later, 5.30 a.m., she whined again.
And, you know, animals have an amazing, you know, intuitive, you know, magnetic frequency.
They tune in.
And so...
I call her my Lily Jata, Lily Joy in Heaven for Syrian.
Anyways, she was my connection.
And I'm like, okay.
And I get back up, take her, open the door, go back out.
And that cloud is still there in the same spot, the same light.
And at this point, I, you know, I'm thinking someone's got to see this.
Someone else's, although it's a pretty rural area, but someone's got to see this, you know?
And this is 5.30 a.m.
It's still really dark out, and so in the middle of winter.
So I probably stood there about 20 minutes and watched it, and it never left.
And that was my awakening.
I was like, okay, what do you want?
Let me know.
So that was the beginning.
At this time, did you feel that you had any missing time?
Not at this time, no.
Did you feel any sense of communication or was it just the awareness that you had a craft and it was sort of in the sky by itself?
Yeah.
Well, my awareness of communication was that I was aware that it was there for me.
I felt that it was a hello.
Of some sort.
I didn't know what, I didn't know why, but I just, you know, it made sense to me.
I got up the next morning, you know, I looked online, I'm like, someone had to see this and there's nothing, you know, it was a beautiful blue sky, no clouds at all.
And I just thought, well, I'll see what this, you know, what happens, what this brings.
So I started to sit outside at night.
You know, it was cold, but we'd bundle up and my dogs would run around.
And I immediately started to have what I call hellos, you know, like, we're here, we're here.
Yeah.
There's been so much since then, but just initially, you know, the blinking lights and they would pop in a cloud and out a cloud and here and there and all over that kind of a thing.
And then I call them shooting ships, but you would think they're shooting star if you didn't know.
Started having a lot of those.
And then I started having...
Ships coming, lights coming in real low, and they would flash, flash, flash, and then they just...
And or I'd have them come in and just go over really slow.
And then I started having greens and blues and reds and purple.
And, you know, it was...
You know, anything really definitive?
Because, you know, of course, everyone on my channel has heard about craft, right?
So is there anything specific that, you know, like a bell ringing event that happened along these lines that you want to...
Yes.
Yes, yes.
Well, what was going on this whole time was I started to have a buzzing, vibrating...
In my, the lower part of my tailbone.
And I had it, I had this for almost a year.
And I started to have pressure in my head.
And I was feeling things, I was always itching at my head.
And I was outside in the summer, not, well, so be started in February.
So I'm outside in the middle of summer.
And I'm up watering my lawn.
It's again, a clear, beautiful blue day.
And I just started feeling this, uh, you know, this pressure and it's like a vice.
It's like, and I had to literally stop and close my eyes, you know?
No, I stopped and I looked up and there were two oval shapes, literally hanging like clouds right above my head.
Well, not right above, but, you know, not high up.
And there were no other clouds in the sky.
It was a beautiful sunny day.
And they were right there.
And I was, you know, I had to stop and I had to close my eyes.
And I just had to wait until, you know, the pressure subsided.
I look at that as downloads and I look at it as integrations.
Okay.
And did you understand that that was a kundalini activation at the time or were you not familiar with that?
No, I was.
By then, I was having so many different physical things going on with me that I knew that these were activations.
I knew I was getting downloads.
I knew there was a purpose for all of this.
And I was, at the time...
Letting it unfold to see, you know, what more would happen, because at that same time, I was going through all of this other, you know, traumatic stuff.
And so I was, you know, trying to piece together in my mind, okay, you know, I have all of this You know, otherworldly ET galactic stuff going on over here.
And I have all of this ending in my life over here.
And I was, you know, trying to make sense of why that would be.
Which took me a while to understand that I was at a point where I was literally ending my soul path at that time.
I mean, literally, it ended.
It ended.
And so, you know, I then...
I started to see ships in the day.
And they were, you know, I saw like the cigar-shaped ships in the distance, you know.
And then I had a ship trying to materialize not that far above me.
And I was trying to make out, you know, what it exactly looked like.
And all I could tell from that was that it was, you know, more triangulish.
But it had some color to it.
It wasn't like a black triangle.
And then I had the one that literally right above my head materialized very briefly.
And it looked like a hawk.
Like if you're looking at a hawk flying above with its wings back.
I saw that very clearly.
And I was having dreams.
Sorry to interrupt, but did you have the sense that this is ongoing, right?
Are you seeing beings or are you just seeing ships?
I'm seeing ships.
I've always had this...
A lot of people describe it the same way.
I have shadows.
I have movement going on that I sense and I feel a movement.
As far as an actual being materializing, I've had dreams where I have seen beings and I believe that you and I didn't talk about this when I met with you,
but I believe that I did have an encounter with an ET. I didn't know it at the time, but I was at the time working in downtown D.C.,
Ironically, I was working for the League of Women Voters for a website called Democracy Net, which was one of the first, if not the first websites online for the presidential campaigns.
And I took the subway to work.
And so I was leaving to go home.
And this was, ironically, too, during the Gore Bush campaign.
So I was taking the subway, or I went to go get a ticket.
So I'm down in the subway, and I'm at the ticket booth, the machine, and there is a man standing there.
And he's just standing there.
And, you know, my first perception was, is this a homeless person?
And he's got money in his hand, but he doesn't know how to put it in the machine.
And I waited and I just watched him and he just was, you know, so out of place.
And he had blonde hair and it was kind of shoulder length.
And he had a trench coat on, but he wasn't dressed like a homeless person, but he was a little disheveled.
And I went up to him and I said, you know, do you need some help with this?
And he looked at me.
And he said, well, how do I do this?
And I thought, isn't that interesting?
You know, that this man, you know, he was a little older than me at the time.
So, you know, probably, I mean, he looked like he was maybe in his 40s.
And so I said, well, let me help you.
And so I helped him get his ticket.
And he was like, thank you.
Thank you.
You know, and he just stared at me.
And I thought, okay, you know, left, got on the train, sitting on the train.
And sure enough, this man shows up and I have no one sitting next to me and he sits next to me.
And I thought, oh boy, you know, and he started to talk to me and he asked me questions like, what, what kind, if I gave you a bunch of money, what, um, What organization would you, you know, donate to?
I bet you'd donate to the whales.
And he just was like on and on about this stuff.
And he didn't shut up.
And, you know, it kind of was off-putting to me for a minute, but I didn't feel afraid.
But he was not of this world.
And I learned this later on.
He was not of this world.
And he just kept going on and on and on.
And he smelled like garlic.
And I don't know what that was about, but I'll tell you what, he smelled so strongly of garlic.
Maybe you have an idea about that.
The person, a guy in front got so angry at him because he, you know, carried on.
And he didn't seem homeless.
He didn't seem insane.
He didn't seem deranged.
I mean, he was just not from this planet.
And so, you know, I chatted with him and he said, okay, well, I'm going to get off.
And it was like one of the last stops.
And I was at the very last time he got off.
He went out.
He stood on that platform.
A couple other people got off.
They left.
He stood on that platform and he just stared at me as we went off and he didn't move.
He just stared at me.
And I, I just thought, whoa.
And so, I feel that that was an ET. Okay.
Fair enough.
Perfectly possible.
Maybe they didn't know any better and they ate something with garlic if they decided to eat just for fun and then they didn't know that they smelled of garlic or something like that.
But anyway, you know, because knowing all the customs is difficult right off the bat.
And so, okay, so that happened.
So, I think that you have had interaction with light beings that you call your angels or others.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
Let me just say, because some people expect there to be, I don't know, some big reveal here.
What this really is, is she is a contactee.
She's sharing her It's going to be a number of her anecdotal experiences.
Hopefully, some things will resonate with others that are listening.
That's the kind of interview we do from time to time.
We try to bring on experiencers and contactees and have them share their stories.
That's what's happening.
Go right ahead and continue, please.
Okay.
Yes, another thing that I've had my whole life, even as a young child, is a lot of ringing in the ears.
And I have that a lot.
And I have it when I get it, I stop because it makes me stop.
And I just sit with it.
And I didn't know, obviously, when I was young what was going on, but I do now.
So, you know, a lot of people have that too.
But Before I talk about the Seraphim, the one thing that is important for my message is that we help to mainstream our cosmic connection.
Because that is one thing people want to hear.
They want to hear, you know, a ship landed on the White House lawn.
And, you know, it's...
For me, I would call it an integration of cosmic energy.
And all of these experiences are activations.
And as you open yourself up to that energy, you have more and more and more.
I feel that I've integrated the cosmic energy that I need at this time.
We all have...
We're all ETs.
We all have...
This ability to connect with our cosmic family.
And it is not, in my opinion, as, you know, woo-woo as people want to make it out to be.
It is actually a normal part of our existence.
So, you know, when I share my experiences, If someone were to come and sit with me outside and see the things that I see that they've never had this, it would probably, you know, knock them out of their shoes at first.
And that is what happens.
It's like a gift.
We open it up.
It's like, woo!
You know, and then after you've had it for years, it's just a part of your life.
So I had, after my house burned down, I moved back to Southern California.
And I was living East LA area.
And I still went out every night.
I still had all my animals.
And we went outside at night.
And, you know, I started to have...
I still saw, you know, what I see and experienced what I experienced.
And then I started to have these...
waves of energy that I could only describe as if you were to take a sheet and you saw a sheet floating horizontally through the sky and I started having these happen and I thought wow that's a new one that's interesting and it would be fairly low and then as time went on they started to these sheets of energy started to manifest into birds white birds big white birds And,
you know, they would just kind of keep flying away.
And the awareness that I had at the time was that this is the Seraphim Collective.
And that my connection is, you know, an angelic connection.
It's an ET connection.
I think we all, you know, I mean, we all have fragments of so many different lives and, you know, places that we've existed in planets and whatever, you know, so...
You know, to say we're just, I'm a Palladian or I'm an Andromedan or, you know, yeah, maybe that's the part of that energetic fragment you're bringing forth in this particular timeline to do whatever.
But I think, you know, we're so much more.
Okay, so, you know, is there any specifics that you want to talk about in terms of, you know, because you felt very compelled to want to come forward, so I want to make sure that we cover whatever things you wanted to say and share,
and it's better if you talk on the personal level than on sort of general, because We can talk on general terms, but it would be better to sort of share the anecdotes.
So you think you're in contact with this seraphim or whatever.
And so what does that contact consist of?
Do you get words in your head?
Are you writing down the dialogues?
Or is it just messages that warn you of things?
Or what does it consist of?
Well, Basically what all of this that has occurred for me has come forth the purpose and the meaning is that I have a mission and my mission is to help people at this time on this planet that I would be activated to help people at a time when the energy was coming in on this planet and and
And putting people into a state of confusion and chaos at a point where we are right now.
So that's why I came forward now, because the time has come.
So we walk the path of being a human.
For example, for me, I've walked the path of...
Of so many different human experiences, you know, death, divorce, financial problems, losing pets, my house burning down, you know, I was molested as a child, you know, just all of these human experiences.
And you can get to a point in your life as a human where you can say, okay, I'm a victim and I'm going to Be mean and angry and bitter, or I'm going to take all of these experiences and use them to help others.
My experiences have led me to a path where I want to help people to connect with their cosmic families, to raise their frequency, to rise above the It's limited consciousness that we are, you know, enslaved in on this planet.
So my messages are integrated within my being.
I mean, I firmly have integrated this cosmic energy that just tells me.
I mean, it's like a channeled, you know, it just tells me what to do, when to do it.
And I was told.
The time is now.
And boy, is it.
I mean, there's no accident you and I are talking right now today.
Look at what's going on.
You know, people have a frequency of fear that's so strong right now.
And the collective is creating, you know, they're creating more of this chaos through this fear.
And yes, it's important for us to be aware of what's going on.
It's important for us to know That there's this dark energy and these entities and all of this that's going on that, you know, want to enslave us and all of that.
But then what do we do with it once we find that out?
Once we say, okay, you're right, you know, once my neighbor who doesn't believe any of this You know, learns about it after some of this stuff is disclosed and says, oh my God, you're right.
Then what do they do with that?
That's where I come in.
That's who I am.
I'm on this side of it.
I'm on, okay, let me help you.
Let me help you make sense of it.
So when you say, you know, do I get specific things?
I channel it.
I just know it.
I know what I know, you know.
Okay.
And the more I pay attention, the more I pay attention, the more I know.
All right.
So it's not specifically words.
It's more, as you say, integrated into your everyday life, and that's fine.
So in terms of, let's say, you know, you went through this quite a traumatic time, and then you came out of it.
I assume maybe we could get some years.
So how long ago was the sort of those back-to-back traumas?
How long for you?
Well...
The real start of it was in 2016 when my mother had already been diagnosed with dementia and I was dealing with that, but it was when I separated from my long-term marriage because you build your identity around this.
That was August of 2016.
To November of 2017.
So like 15 months.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
But in the meantime, I was already starting to see the ships and have this, you know, all of the physical stuff that was going on.
This is relatively recent.
We're talking, you know, four or five years ago, right?
Yeah, in February, it'll be five years that I started, that I saw my first, you know.
That I know of, you know, consciously I'm aware of.
I've had dreams and stuff for years.
I've had dreams of being on ships.
I've had dreams, you know, so I would say...
Fair enough.
And so you also, then you moved, you left the area where all of this, a lot of this stuff happened, right?
So you actually, you've made quite a bit of transitions very, very recently.
And now you're coming forward to share that with us, you know, that you're kind of Ready to try to help people.
Why don't you talk about, I guess, your idea to connect people.
Do you want to talk about that a little?
Okay.
Well, after my house burned down in August of 2017, I came to Southern California.
And I was here for about six months.
And I was, you know, I was here longer.
But in about six months period, I was starting to really...
You know, get the information that I needed to help people like me find people like me.
And, you know, I hadn't been in the dating scene for, you know, for forever.
I didn't even know what to expect with that.
And so I joined one of the well-known dating sites.
I thought, well, I've just got to step out here somewhere.
But I joined it knowing who's going to want to be with me with all of this stuff, my ET stuff on top of it.
I actually have a couple of interesting stories with that early on.
One guy's claim to fame that contacted me was that he was involved with the Mars landing.
He worked for, is it JPL? Jet Propulsion Lab?
Yeah.
And this was his big claim to fame.
And I thought, oh, that's interesting.
I'm into that.
So we started chatting.
And the minute I asked him about, well, so what's your awareness of bases on Mars?
I mean, that guy couldn't have blocked me any faster.
You know, it was like...
So he wanted to put out there...
I work on the Mars, you know, lunar or whatever the landing thing is.
But no, not talking about anything else.
So I thought that was interesting.
Another interesting one was a guy contacted me who worked for, what's it called?
The big defense department.
Oh, they're everywhere.
They're huge.
Anyways, I'll think of it.
Lockheed Martin.
Yeah, Lockheed Martin.
Lockheed Martin.
Lockheed Martin for 30-some years.
And he was telling me about, you know, that he flew on some kind of aircraft to Hawaii in 10 minutes and, you know, telling me this stuff.
And when I started to get a little deeper into, you know, where I was coming from, He got very weird.
And I realized that, you know, that wasn't going to go anywhere.
But I thought that was interesting.
If nothing else, I heard about that he actually was on an aircraft that flew to Hawaii in 10 minutes.
And, but, you know, I'm sorry.
Well, that's kind of that the fact that you had two people like that, did you join a dating site?
For aerospace executives or something of that nature?
No, I know.
No, it was a regular site and I attracted this.
I believe we attract, we magnetize our experiences.
So I thought it was very interesting because at the time I was...
Just, you know, starting to figure out...
I mean, I don't even know what men my age are into, you know?
I hadn't been in that scene for a long time.
But I did think it was interesting that I attracted these two guys.
But when I wanted to go any deeper into discussion, then they were, you know, like...
And I thought, well, okay.
So, you know, I really started to realize, I don't think I'm going to find a partner that is on my wavelength, you know, through these kind of sites.
Because the energy, the frequency, it's just not, you know, there.
So at that time, I thought, you know, I need to create something.
So I did start working on a site called CosmicMeet.com, Connect in 5D. I worked with the development team in...
Southern California, or Chatsworth, actually.
And we really started to get into this.
I invested some money, and I was just like, this is going to be great.
And then I realized I've got to stop.
I was told, just stop.
Don't go any further with this site.
Because you're going to put a bunch of money into it, and you're going to...
You have to change it.
That's what my guides told me.
You're going to have to change it up because you've got the right idea.
You want to bring, you know, like-minded people together at a certain frequency, but there's more to come and people aren't quite ready for it.
And this was in 2018.
And boy, were they right.
So I stopped.
And I took that time to go back to where my home burned and go through that process of closure and all of that, which was necessary.
And then I realized that, you know, I was done and I needed to come back here to SoCal, which I did in the beginning of June and during COVID and move on with my plan.
Well, it's been a little derailed because I've had to let all of this play out.
And then with the election coming up and what all was going on, and I, you know, I'm pretty, I'm pretty knowledgeable and educated about the behind the scenes stuff have been for years.
I realize it's time.
So that's where I am now.
Okay, so in terms of, I guess, you know, the election and what you're experiencing at this time, you know, you've come forward, you're not working on that site right now, but you think you're going to go back there.
I mean, in other words, at this exact juncture, are you Are you interested in reactivating that idea?
Are you following the election and all of the stolen election, actually, and what's going on?
Is that what you're doing?
I'm doing both.
It's time to reactivate working on the site because the election is a catalyst and what's going to be coming out Is a catalyst for humans to, you know, embrace a new paradigm of reality.
And so my goal is to help them at this time and moving forward to make sense of everything that's going on.
So we're at that juncture right now where, you know, you and I, we wait to see how it unfolds I firmly believe that it is unfolding as it should.
Things aren't being disclosed fast enough for me, but that's just me.
But I know that we're heading in that direction.
Just because I know my own family and friends and where they are, That once the red pill explodes that they are going to go through a time where you know they need to make sense of it.
I mean we're still talking you know people worrying about you know Are we closing down?
Are we opening back up?
What are we doing as far as CD is and all of that?
And now the election stuff.
So people are constantly kept in a state of agitation.
And while they want to Make sense of it.
They don't know how.
And so they think tuning in 24-7 to, you know, mainstream media is going to answer things for them.
It only keeps them more, gets them more agitated.
That'll actually drive them crazy.
And, you know, we're talking about now alternative, you know, 10 Days of Darkness and is, you know, like last night YouTube went down worldwide for a while and then it came back up.
And what is that about?
And we, you know, I just know, knowing the people that I know, say tomorrow everything turns off, you know, it's going to be mass pandemonium of, you know, so, you know, people like us have to come forward with some tools to help people because it's happening.
It's going to happen.
My awareness is it's not That's great.
We don't have to make this a super long interview, but I do want to make sure we cover everything that you wanted to talk about.
Just considering what you've been through, I think it's significant for people to take a look at that, see where you are now, and you've gone through quite an awakening.
All of this culminated quite quickly.
And I would say, I mean, yes, you had tragedies, but now you're here on my show trying to talk about it in a relatively balanced way.
So that is a four-year period to go through a lot of trauma.
So it does make, you know, if you wanted to be a trauma counselor, for example, you might We're fairly good at that, considering that people that are going to go through stuff right now are traumatized.
At least they will be, in theory.
Some people may be even now, but according to my precog dreams, and I would ask you if you have any of those precog-type dreams, Like I do.
But before I do, just to say that, you know, these people are going to be much more traumatized than they ever dreamed of right now.
The people that are completely in the dark.
And then there are people that have snippets of things that they think are true, but they're kind of way out there.
They don't consider them in their daily life.
They might think they're balanced and consider that, oh, UFOs do exist, but they don't affect me.
And there's the people that think they have never been abducted.
And I am curious whether you think you've been abducted, if you have any scars or markings on your body, as is customary for some abductees, and whether or not there are any anomalous things that happened in your past, maybe even in your early childhood.
That you haven't touched on.
And lastly, and I know this is kind of a group of questions, but you can, you know, pick and choose what you want to answer.
And then the thought of whether you've been regressed so that you may be blocking some incidents, again, perhaps from early childhood as opposed to more recently.
So kind of covering that gamut of stuff, is there anything there that you might want to address?
Well, you know, as far as the early childhood, you know, I was sharing that my early childhood was really unstable.
So my dad was at Fort Meade.
And so we were, he was stationed in Maryland at the time, which is where I was born.
And I remember things from being really little.
I Always had a fear.
I remember I went to this on the base.
I went to this daycare.
It was for, you know, like one or two times.
I don't know why.
It was like to fill in because my mother worked.
And I remember them putting me on a table and holding me down.
And I was maybe two if I was even that.
And we were all going to go outside in the sprinklers and run through the sprinklers and I was so completely freaked out by that.
I still remember it.
I still remember it to this day.
These people holding me down.
And why were they holding me down?
You know, I remember another time when I broke my arm.
And we went to...
My mom took me to the emergency room.
And I was five.
And they were holding me down.
And I just was freaking out.
So I look back at...
Being little and having, you know, possibly, I don't know, it was other life experiences or, you know, what that was about, but I do feel there's some connection there where...
Something was happening to me that was against my will.
Maybe figuring a memory of being abducted, sort of an abduction memory.
Yeah.
That's possible.
I remember being two...
I'm talking of angels.
This is a significant thing in my life.
I remember being two.
This neighbor took me to Chesapeake Bay with her family.
And I went out into the waves by myself at age two.
And I like escaped from the house.
And, you know, Chesapeake Bay is like the ocean.
I mean, it's, you know, and I went out there and I remember sitting there because I have a real connection to water.
I'm scuba certified.
I know I just would live under the water.
And I was drawn to this water, and I just left the house.
And I remember the lady finding me, and I was sitting out in the water.
It could have just taken me away, just like that.
And I remember this woman running down, spanking me, you know.
And I know I had angels.
I know I was protected.
I know it.
But, you know, so to answer your question, I don't even remember what all your question was, but in terms of...
Oh, abductions and such.
I've had dreams.
Like I said, I've had dreams of being on ships.
I've had a dream.
We'll see if this comes to pass.
But, you know, we talk about the financial reset that's supposed to happen on this planet.
And I had a dream about this not too long ago, that it was a go and that it would actually be, you know, they talk about the dragging it out or the shotgun thing.
And I had a dream that it would all go at once when it finally let go.
I had a dream last night about Trump, that Trump was the president.
Okay.
Well, Can I say that?
Yeah, because, well, I actually had a dream very recently, like a night or two ago, too, that revealed that the indictments are now going to be...
They were actually being broadcast on television, and I saw it, and I was very happy about that, because we've been waiting a long time, obviously, for that.
So something is going to allow them to do that.
Now, whether...
He does it to force the issue or he does it in keeping with the fact that, you know, they're going to expose all the voter fraud and so on.
I mean, so that's an interesting thing.
I'm also, I've seen a positive future, actually.
So that's good news.
You know, some good news things.
But in the far distance, I have seen some not so good.
So it depends on when you're looking at it as well as, you know, right now.
So, yeah, share whatever you like.
Well, I was going to say that, you know, I think that we have this uprising of an Akashic history, you know, and we have timelines and, you know, people want to just...
Compartmentalize and simplify all of what happens.
And there's so many things playing into the scenario or the story.
And people have power to direct that as well, which they feel disempowered by.
The way that it's been set up on this planet.
I feel like we are at a time, which is why I created Cosmic Meat and the work I want to do as well.
The work I actually do every day.
Let's choose a timeline.
Let's create this.
And raise our frequency so that all of these dark players don't have power over us.
And that's how I look at myself personally.
You know, I think that, yes, they're there.
It's like, you know, my neighbor down the street could be, you know, for all I know, a serial killer, you know, but do I engage in his world?
Is he trying to come and get me?
Do I keep my frequency at a level where he doesn't even see me over here, you know?
I know it's complicated.
I know there's a lot to it.
But that's where I come from.
And I feel that there's power in numbers.
And as we, as a collective, find each other, talk about this stuff, and we mainstream it to where it's just a part of our life, we integrate it,
that we will have the power to direct a course, you know, A timeline that does not include, you know, we're all gonna die, the world's gonna explode, and, you know, the dark entities are gonna eat us.
I mean, you know, I just feel that we have this power.
I feel it myself.
I'm empowered myself.
You know, I know that I've had warrior incarnations.
And I have the two sides to me.
I'm a Libra moon, a Libra sun, but I'm an Aries rising.
And I know I have that balance of, you know, I'll be nice and I can go with the flow.
But man over here, you know, I can bring it if I have to.
And so integrating those energies, you know, to be productive and to help people.
You know, that's what I want to do.
So, yes, in terms of you brought up doing, you know, like a counseling, I feel, you know, I know that I can, you know, I'm a portal.
I'm a portal.
And so when I work with someone, I can help them to access in that portal that cosmic story.
Okay, so have you...
I don't know what you do at this time as a job, but are you talking about the idea that you want to start doing some kind of consultation along those lines?
Well, I work with people.
I help people all the time.
I help friends.
I do readings.
For people and animals that have passed, I do that.
I've never charged for it, but I am looking at starting to do that as a vocation, too.
Okay.
Combined with Cosmic Meat and developing that, you know, Cosmic Meat is a website, is a service that brings people together in many ways.
It's not just, you know, I started out thinking a dating thing, but it's not.
It's bringing people together in partnership and friendship, in, you know, networking, in services.
And, you know, basically I envision it as being a very successful endeavor that will be global, you know.
And why not?
We're everywhere.
Why not?
Okay.
Well, that's, I mean, I have to say that I think something like that is needed.
I, you know, I I think it's good for people to find each other.
And I have seen that people feel quite isolated now.
Needless to say, if they're locked in their homes, they're going to feel isolated.
But hopefully that nonsense is going to pass soon.
And in some of our areas, it's not like that.
But in England, for example, it's like that right now.
Unfortunately for them.
So there are different areas.
And I was talking to somebody in Romania, where they're also being, they're trying to lock them down as well there.
And I don't know about all the other countries in Europe.
So that's not looking good for them.
Obviously, this election is going to decide the direction we end up going.
And that's a whole matter in and of itself, because Biden has expressly talked about locking down everyone and basically making you wear masks all the time and all this complete nonsense.
So for that alone, Trump should should win, just cosmically speaking.
But at any rate, well, I mean, I appreciate your your coming forward and being so forthright about, you know, where you're coming from, what you have to say.
Is there anything that you haven't talked about that you'd like to cover before we let you go?
Well, you know, I would just say as far as this election goes, you know, the people that I come in contact that are so passionate, so it's such an emotional, you know, charge for them.
They've made it all about one man.
This is a much bigger...
I don't know if I want to use the word war, but a much bigger event going on than this one person.
I would just encourage people to step outside of that mentality because they lose the point.
And, you know, once this other stuff comes out, you know, regarding the dark, dark, darkest of dark stuff, and the people who have been involved, that they worship and adore and idolize, you know, the world's going to be rocked.
And so I'm just hoping that This comes out sooner rather than later so that we can, you know, rip the Band-Aid off and start to move on from this.
So I would say if people want to contact me, I don't know if my information is on there, but...
Yes, I think I managed, you know, but we can double check.
I'll double check.
You can give it out right now, though.
You can give out your email address and your website.
Okay.
Well, if they want to go to cosmicmeat.com, we have a splash page up that they can sign up for updates and any information that we send out.
And that's...
The first thing they can do.
And then if they want to contact me personally, they can email me at Jackie at CosmicMeat.com.
And I'm open to, you know, I'm open to whatever.
I mean, I'd like to have people start engaging in it.
If someone wants to be a part of helping, you know, in any manner, they can run that by me too.
You know, I feel like you put it out there, you see who shows up.
I'm open to that.
I'm open to that.
Thank you.
Thank you very much for being on the show and sharing your story, Jackie.
Keep in touch with us and maybe we'll have you back sometime.
I'm excited to see what happens here pretty soon.
Thanks, Carrie.
Bye-bye.
Bye-bye.
Bye.
And I'm going to be running the credits, so just stand by here.
It's just something I have to do to give us the protections we need.
And Jackie, you can hang up.
I'll actually...
Let's see.
So, so Jackie, you can just hang up.
All right, I'm trying to see where I should do that.