I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here today.
This is my second show today and now we have Debra Tavares with us and so that's going to be a lot of fun and very glad to have her on the show.
she's going to do some very interesting updates with us and she and I have been talking furiously about everything going on so uh Debra say hello to everyone and I'm going to read a short bit of your bio so just let me do that before you launch into everything okay yes Carrie I appreciate that Yes, hello everybody.
This is Deborah Tavares with StopTheCrime.net.
Excellent.
So now what we're going to do is I'm just going to go to my website and I've got that on the screen here.
And just because I don't often do your bio thing, so I thought I should do that a little bit here.
So you are the third generation land developer of residential construction and has been in a self- Self-employed family operated business for over 30 years specializing in feasibility studies acquisition building permit processes including required environmental impact reports along with furnishing department of real estate subdivision requirements and the entire construction build out to competition.
It was during this process that the restrictions of property rights became evident under the creeping constraints of the United Nations Agenda 21.
Through land use restrictions, limitations, regulations, fees, and increased liability exposures, Deborah is spreading the word, exposing connections between the mysterious global trends of man-made and corporate military-controlled technologies Weaponized frequencies and falsified science of the global warming movement and other major programs intended to cause damage and death and
reduce the population and to eliminate freedom for people for all time.
And then it goes on.
So it's on my website at projectcamelot.tv, projectcamelotportal.com, or projectcamelot.org.
All three of those URLs go to my website, and we have more than one because we are blocked in some countries.
So, now what I'd like to do, Debra, and I wanted people to know that actually Debra is on a phone line.
She does not have the wherewithal to get the computer operating in some way.
Maybe she can explain.
And so she is always on a phone line.
So we're going to be showing her banner while she's talking, and I'll flip back and forth between myself and her.
So, Debra, welcome.
And if you can maybe say a couple more words of just what you got going, got yourself going into this whole story, because I know, you know, it's a long-winded bio, but if you can just encapsulate your background a little bit more than the bio did in terms of why you really became such an activist.
Well, yes.
Thank you.
And for everyone that's listening, we're running several sites, not only StopTheCrime.net, but PrimaryWater.org.
And that's an extremely important site.
The water issue is becoming more of a threat to all of us every single day.
But how did I get involved?
Well, working self-employed seven days a week for so many years, And then finding that we weren't able to build as easily.
The years would creep by and suddenly things that we could have built five years earlier, we were not able to make economic sense out of.
Many strange things were going on with the layout of the proposed projects that we needed to build on a site for profitability and for sales price.
We weren't able to reach price points that were necessary To survive building and selling.
And we hit, of course, back in the 80s, some interest rate spikes where we had construction loan financing at 22 and 23 percent.
And we were attempting and trying to sell, unfortunately surviving, but this 16%.
And actually, and I'll just throw this in right now, I started to understand about the interest rates and how this was all set up by the international bankers, essentially by reading Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars.
And that document also does appear in William Cooper's book, Behold a Pale Horse.
It's the first chapter in this book.
And, of course, I read his book as well years back.
Having said that, we were looking and hearing about the smart grid rolling out, the smart meters, the wireless electric smart meters.
And we were concerned with that required deployment and the inability as an owner-builder To prevent an attachment on our buildings that we came to find out did not have an environmental impact study on.
In other words, there was no study done on any health or adverse health effects from increased frequencies.
And as we were researching this, we were in Southern California at the time.
We live in Northern California now.
Our business was in Southern California.
And we went to Southern California Edison.
I want everybody to remember this.
Southern California Edison, the umbrella company, is called Edison International.
At the time, we did not know that it was a Rothschild organization.
We did not know that.
But what we found out when we went to the main headquarters in Southern California and asked for the environmental impact study on the rollout Of the wireless smart meters.
We were told conflicting information that ended up being disinformation.
In other words, we were lied to by the utility company.
And that really became an enormous concern because you don't have a major utility company giving you disinformation.
So what do I mean by that?
We went and we asked for a copy of their environmental information.
Study on the rollout of the meters.
And we asked only for the section that would indicate that there would be no harmful effects from the frequencies.
Because as builders, everything we ever built, we had to pay engineers thousands of dollars to get environmental impact studies.
And what those do, many levels, but what they essentially do is to confirm That what you're building is not going to have a negative effect on the surrounding community, roadways, drainage, etc., in order to build.
And so we went and asked Edison for their environmental impact study, and they told us they didn't have one.
And I was very insistent, thinking that this woman certainly could not realize that they had to have one, because we always had to.
And I asked, well, are you not deploying, because those were their words, deploying these meters on your entire customer base?
And we were told, no, it's going on the entire base of 80,000 customers.
And I said, well, you need to go speak with your smart meter director or whoever runs that program, because I know you have to have an environmental impact study.
We've always had to as builders.
So we were left waiting for about 45 minutes, and this person came back down and said, you were right.
We do have an environmental impact study, but it's huge.
And so we can't give it to you.
It's too big.
And it would probably be too big for your computer for us to send it up to you also.
And I'm looking kind of bewildered.
I said, well, look, all we need are just those few pages showing the frequencies are not a problem.
We don't need whatever it is that you say you've got.
All of a sudden, you know, the whole picture changed.
So we left.
We went back on up to Northern California where Pacific Gas and Electric, PG&E, who many of you listening have heard, are involved in the fires in Northern California and elsewhere, and they are, because that's Rothschild as well.
But again, we didn't know all of that at the time.
We did find out when we came up to Northern California that Pacific Gas and Electric said they did not have an environmental impact study, and they also knew that Southern California Edison did not have an environmental impact study.
And that set us into motion, wondering what on earth is going wrong here.
This is disinformation we've been lied to.
And they have not had to have the studies that would indicate that there were safety precautions and investigations made.
And Carrie, I think that's about the time I met you years back at one of the conferences.
Right.
I was a keynote speaker on smart meters.
Yeah.
Yes, and we plowed into that, and it was becoming clear that these were weapons of mass destruction, that We were being set upon by our utility companies.
Ultimately, what we started to see were our protests against the meters weren't being covered by the local media.
No one was picking up the story because they were muzzling the story.
They didn't want anyone else to know that there was opposition to the deployment of the electric wireless smart meters.
The few bits and pieces of information that were said by the media was basically a portrayal of these hippies of the 60s complaining about this wireless stuff, making it look really stupid.
And I was really surprised.
Again, I just was in bewilderment over the enormity of what was becoming Clear and seeing how this was being played and how detrimental and what a killer this was.
So I decided that maybe I needed to get arrested.
That maybe I needed to be a grandmother, an older, mature, more of a conservative looking person to set a new face and to see if in fact We couldn't get this kicked out of California and get other states to start rallying in the opposition against these meters.
And so one day when we were protesting against the meters here in Northern California, I wasn't intending on getting arrested, but it ended up that I did get arrested.
And that ended up going viral.
We were interviewed not only by the New York Times and the San Francisco Chronicle, but it ended up going worldwide about the opposition in California for the smart meters.
And then they, being the controllers, looked at how to psychologically tamp this fire of opposition out.
So they came up with, utility companies came up with the opt-out here in California.
Now we always knew that that was only an appeasement plan.
Because there was then becoming increased opposition to the meters.
And the way that they could reduce that opposition was create the idea of a choice.
People generally, they said in some of the documents that this is a way to get people off guard.
If they believe that there's a choice, then they think that either way is okay and it's safe because there's a choice.
And this was all psychologically programmed through some institutions here in the United States to impede further opposition with the deployment of the grid.
And so many people retained their original analog meters as a result of this appeasement plan.
I was watching people in the dead of winter in the central United States area, heavy, heavy snow conditions, Where they were opposing the meters because they were already people that had sensitivities against increased frequencies.
And the utilities would literally cut their service off at the pole and let them be in a home without any heat.
And it was becoming more and more apparent that their willingness to kill us as a result of refusing these meters was It's more and more apparent that the meters were weapons and are weapons and are being used as weapons.
And in fact, we have gone up to Paradise, the town of Paradise.
About 85% of the town is gone.
And the entire city government, all the government officials lost their homes.
And we've gone up there.
That was the fire that started November the 8th of 2018 in Butte County and several other adjacent cities burned as well.
We've been up there a couple of times now since the burn with two ex-fire captains that between the two of them have 60 years Strike team work and being in and around fires.
Okay, so Debra, let me just stop and clarify this for people.
So what you did was you went up to Paradise with these two firemen.
Is that correct?
That is correct.
Okay.
And why I'm bringing this up is that we have evidence that the smart meters were involved.
This was a house-to-house ignition in Paradise, albeit directed energy weapons, certainly a component using directed energy weapons to literally blow up the houses, as well as the house-to-house ignition with the smart grid,
because we know and we have been, along with other groups up here, the EMF Safety Network, who's up here in Northern California, It has a long list of fires that have started from the smart meters over the many years of deployment all over the world.
And we've recently posted that list on a website that...
I don't post a lot of new information on it, but it was a website I've had for a long time called smartmetersmurder.com.
smartmetersmurder.com.
And we do have the lists...
Of the fires that have been started by the meters, and we have a whistleblowing testimony from employees that worked for Pacific Gas and Electric saying that Pacific Gas and Electric was hiding the fact that the meters were blowing up.
Now, what people were noticing at first, Carrie, were their homes were browning out or their lights would flicker, and many of their appliances would literally blow up.
Or become fried and they wouldn't be able to be used and people just would get an appliance replaced.
Particularly, it had to be an ENERGY STAR appliance, one that would sync up with the wireless meter on the exterior of the homes, which is now the requirement for all code enforcement across the country now.
We're all going to have to have these ENERGY STAR rated appliances that will literally be able to be shut down Pulsed into burning up, including all of our kitchen faucets and our shower heads, everything wireless.
All energy consumption is going to be controlled and or turned off if you overuse your prescribed energy for the month, but I won't go there quite yet.
So the bottom line is what we started to discover is Just the enormity that the utilities were going to and through to implement a complete global control grid.
We're talking on every single building everywhere that has electricity.
And interesting to note that some of the homes that did not burn and some of the burn areas, and that would include the Santa Rosa area, the burn, the wildfires that are not wild, And they're not forest fires.
You have to keep that in mind.
That's what the media would like us to think.
They're wildfires and or they're forest fires.
They are not.
They're directed energy weapon fires intentionally done by our rogue government agencies that people still in many instances don't understand are rogue and we're the enemy.
But so many of the homes in these areas That did not have the meters, did not burn.
So I want to say to you that we saw smart meters in Russia.
We traveled to Russia.
We saw smart meters in Finland, there in South America.
Smart meters are being deployed everywhere.
Absolutely everywhere.
Quite of them.
And it is a control grid.
It is a worldwide control grid.
Now they have already, meaning the controllers, the overlords, however you want to call them, the Illuminati, whatever you want to call them, have already, by and large, deployed all the wireless water meters.
So I want you to imagine when we're having red flag fire warnings here in Northern California, as we did just before Thanksgiving of this year, 2018, Pacific Gas and Electric, aka Rothschild, is going to turn the power off.
And I want you to think about what that does when you're living in country or rural country areas where you have wells and you have holding tanks, and the only way to even put water on your home in the path of fires will be cut off to you.
We found out, too, that the fires that raged in Santa Rosa, the Tubbs Fire, that burned down multi-million dollar homes and then burned down the Hilton Hotel and then jumped the freeway.
Those water tanks that supplied those homes with water, one was offline, interestingly enough, in what was high fire season.
It was pretty seismically We're
builders, and we have discovered something in the new green energy codes.
That are global.
And this is going to be a requirement for all rebuilds because we're all being required to reduce our greenhouse gas emissions and our carbon footprint by implementing green energy components in our homes.
One of the new green energy components is the low-E energy efficient windows with argon gas We have discovered that these windows cause fires, and they have been causing fires for a number of years, and yet this is fully backed by the Department of Energy and all your local building codes.
So you've got to wonder, actually we don't need to wonder, that they are allowing windows that cause fires.
Now I'm going to explain how they cause fires, and you'll understand.
When the conditions are right, when the sun is shining on these windows and reflected from the windows, there's a thin metallic oxide coating on the glazing of the surface of these windows.
And the metallic oxide coating is designed to keep the sun's heat from entering the home.
This is why they're considered energy efficient, okay?
It keeps the sun's heat from entering the home.
All very good ideas.
With excluding the fact that we have an electrified environment, our atmosphere, with all of the aerosols, but we'll exclude that from the engineering's ability to come up with the rating on these windows, because even without that consideration, Carrie, of the metallics in the atmosphere that heat up everything and the increased microwaves, these are starting fires, and this isn't equated in the engineering's Specs on these windows.
But what happens is the heat from these windows, when it's focused on the window, the window is almost like a magnifying glass.
It actually becomes concave.
And it focuses a beam of heat that gets hot.
And there are reports from all over the country where the beam of heat goes.
It could be on your neighbor's house.
Or there have been many reports of melting neighbors siding when they have siding, meltable siding.
It's even burned up some cars when it's directed towards cars that are parked in front of their neighbor's house or their own car.
And most recently I came upon a first-hand experience with this.
And this is how I found out.
And I'm going to tell you this story now.
We have family members that lost their home in the Tubbs fire here in Santa Rosa in October of 2017.
They bought a new home that was under construction and recently moved in.
And when there was the red flag warning for fires this last Thanksgiving, again, just not a month or more back in 2018, the husband told the wife to stay home that day.
He was just concerned.
He had an uncomfortable feeling about the atmospheric conditions and the fact that we were being told it was a red flag fire warning.
And so the wife stayed home.
And started to smell smoke a few hours later and went out to investigate.
The model home next to the home they bought is vacant and hasn't been sold yet.
The builder of this development had mulch around the side and rear yards of these homes to make them look nice.
And what was noticed was this mulch was on fire.
Behind this house, right next door.
And the fence, the wooden fence, was starting to catch on fire, and the wood posts that support the deck were starting to catch on fire.
So immediately the fire department was called, and fortunately they had the presence of mind to get out there with garden hoses.
Some neighbors heard this and came, so there were a couple of neighbors with garden hoses, Working feverishly to put this fire out that it started.
And by the time the fire department arrived, the flames were under the deck and into the crawl space under the house, and they were having to tear off the siding of the house to put the underhouse fire out.
No one at that moment knew how that fire started, and so the builder went in, took away all of the damaged material, replaced everything, And then put down a jute netting, like a rope type of a netting, over the soil where there had been mulch before.
They hadn't finished with what they were going to put on top, but the netting was there, maybe for erosion control because now we're in the rainy season here.
But then it was noted that there were these round burn spots On this jute netting.
And then it was observed that the windows were burning the jute netting.
So, upon further investigation, we found that there have been many reports of these low-E energy-efficient windows with this argon gas.
There have been fires all over the country.
And again, these have not been pulled off the market.
There's no warning to this.
The Department of Energy is backing this deployment.
And 80% of the homes now are using these windows.
And it's critical that people know about this because they're using, of course, weather weapons to destroy our homes.
And many people that are rebuilding are going to comply with these low-E energy.
However, I will add this.
This is important to note.
For those of you that are hearing this, what you need to do, if you are in the rebuilding stage or you're planning to rebuild, you can talk to your energy agency that you hire and they can come up with energy calculations that can offset your energy requirements Reduction requirements by using some other components that will offset the windows.
And there are other things you can do to increase energy efficiency too without using these low E windows.
And there are a number of recommendations for that.
My main objective right now is to get this warning out nationwide, actually worldwide.
This is another stealth way Okay, Deborah, now I want to bring up a topic along these lines that you and I have never discussed, but I realize that I don't know if you know about this, but maybe you do.
You know there's a certain kind of light bulb that they started to require people have in their homes, and In apartments.
And it looks like a sort of a spiral.
And they actually have given it free in other countries as well.
We saw them in Egypt, believe it or not.
And they're very happy because somebody's giving them a free light bulb.
And they don't have much money there.
So what's amazing about this is that they contain...
I believe they contain mercury.
And if they break...
Mercury is flammable.
It's also, it's a toxic agent.
And it's very, very dangerous.
And so what I'm wondering is, some of these houses, needless to say, even most of them had these bulbs.
So if the house gets hot, the bulb is going to crack and break.
So this is an added agent that's very, very toxic and would also add to the flame, you know, The burning.
Right, and certainly the toxicity levels to all of our groundwater supplies.
And we'll talk about that a little bit more.
I actually have a YouTube up on LED light bulbs, a stealth energy weapon.
So for those of you, you can go to StopTheCrime.net, go to our video YouTube channel and listen to that.
We actually picked up brochures from our ophthalmologist, our eye doctor, Telling us all the detriments of these light bulbs, the LED light bulbs.
And we're now seeing them in big stores like Costco and Home Depot.
They're changing out everywhere, and it causes eye disease.
It causes cataracts and macular degeneration.
It also reduces our melatonin, so we're not getting into the deeper levels that require sleep.
It causes weight gain and diabetes, causes all kinds of emotional disturbances with our children, and causes headaches.
There are many, many symptoms and many illnesses that are caused through these light bulbs, and they're also creating a light bulb that is a Wi-Fi light bulb, so that you can connect to Wi-Fi through the light bulb.
Again, the enormity of the methods and the technology that is being rolled over us to literally increase the profits for big pharma as we become very sick and asset-stripped.
And to think of it in the windows, the light bulbs, the vaccinations, the food supply, the poisonous water, the overhead aerosol, the list is endless.
Yes, unbelievable.
Yes, and I oftentimes think of it like war has been declared, and we are absolutely the enemy.
And I think of this as a war zone with all of these landmines before us.
And at the end of each day, if we've been able to walk through that war zone and not be blown up by any number of booby traps that have been set for us, We've made some right decisions.
And the only reason I'm really doing what I'm doing, Carrie, is to try to let people know how to get to the other side of that booby-trapped landmine field.
Those people that are aware of what is happening and things they can do to avoid succumbing as quickly.
Because I'm just...
Looking at all of the compromised human beings and people that are behind these attacks and assaults on all of us.
And it is...
It's horrific.
So I want to roll into...
So we talked about the light bulbs.
Absolutely, they're killers.
Everyone needs to understand that.
They're also doing the LED light bulbs now in the...
In the car lights, so when you're driving at night, that's a problem.
And it is recommended that you get a certain type of eyeglass to wear over your glasses.
I have all of that laid out in that YouTube LED lights, a stealth weapon.
What you can do to reduce the confrontation when you look at your laptops and your cell phones, etc., At this point, I would recommend that people stop using their cell phone on a regular basis when you're not using it to roll it up in Mylar.
You can get that at any camping supply.
Roll it up in Mylar until you call it and it doesn't receive a signal.
Do not use these by your beds for alarms and keep them preferably in your car.
Remembering though, when you're using your cell phones in your car, It's like being inside a Faraday cage in certain instances where these frequencies pulse off the interior of the car and go through your bodies.
And you have to remember that this is an accumulative effect with all these frequencies.
And many people that were not feeling the symptoms of EMS are now starting to feel it.
They just don't realize it because they're going to their doctor with any number of complaints.
And such as confusion or headaches or migraines or eye pain, cataracts, night sweats.
In fact, I would highly recommend everyone go to StopTheCrime.net and print off the microwave radiation frequency symptom list because you will see a myriad of consequences as a result of being by and near and around wireless.
And our immune systems are being jammed.
In fact, we discovered that in the burn areas, there have been people that are quarantined when they're evacuated.
They've lost everything.
They are getting what they're identifying as the norovirus, N-O-R-O virus.
And it's flu-like symptoms.
There's fortunately no vaccination for them, good for them.
And you just, there's no medication, and you just have to take care of yourself to get through it.
It's maybe, you know, one to three to five days where you're sick.
Now, if you have a depressed immune system, you're not going to fare as well.
But actually, what the neurovirus is, it's the effects of the use of directed energy weapons in the areas that are being burned.
And what they're also saying is the norovirus is now becoming more prevalent throughout the United States, and of course it is, because we have an inundation of wireless transmissions from the towers, the antennas, the 5G, the smart grid for the electric side of the grid, as well as the water side of the grid now.
We're being pummeled with frequencies that we simply are not going to be able to survive under.
And the attack is broad.
It's on every single level.
We're being hacked.
And in fact, I was reading a very interesting book called Wet Wear.
And it's Wet Wear.
And it talks about how every cell in our body is a computer.
And we're being attacked in every cell of our body.
So, what I want to talk about next is the burn list, the burn-em-up list that the Cal Fire here in California has put out.
Now, why do I say the burn-em-up list?
We have been told, in our climate action plans and in our resilient plans, and here's how you look up your climate action plan and or your resilient plan.
They're two different plans, but You can type in your search on your computer the name of your town.
Say, for example, you would type in Beverly Hills, California, followed by Climate Action Plan and Resilient Plan, and you will find those plans.
What do those plans mean?
Those plans mean that your cities that are incorporated, they do not work for you.
They are Running the plans by the United Nations, again, remember we were bankrupt back in 1933.
We were all collateralized through the international bankers, the United Nations and the IMF, and they believed they stole everything, fair and square.
And we are the enemy.
That's why we need licenses to do business.
We need a license to do something That would otherwise be illegal if we didn't have a license, because we're the enemy.
But having said that, and again, it's important to understand that all our government agencies, every single one of them, exist in name only.
I've checked every agency, every branch of the military.
They have all signed on to the Climate Action and Resilient Plans, which is the finale of UN Agenda 21.
And the UN Agenda 2030 plans.
These are genocide plans.
These are plans of massive reduction of resources, including the elimination of gas, natural gas and gasoline for our cars.
We've had on StopTheCrime.net for a long time now, one of our links on the website, it's called Kiss Your Gas Goodbye.
And when I was talking about the fact that it says that in the plans, Nobody was believing that that could be possible.
Well, what we're seeing here in the rebuilds from the burned-out houses here in Northern California that burned down a year ago, people are being incentivized not to rebuild with gas connections in their homes, to be fully electric homes.
And to do that without being incentivized, it's an additional $10,000 of cost.
And now we're also being required to have solar and these smart appliances.
Now, when you look at these climate action plans, as we have investigated hundreds and hundreds of these plans, they all vary slightly, but I can tell you they are criminal.
They're weapons of mass policies.
This is what they are.
Think of it like that, because that is what they are.
Most people are unaware.
That your cities have approved all of these plans.
And they've taken grant money to implement these plans.
And let me explain as a builder the best way to look at this.
These plans were implemented and approved a number of years ago now.
So it would be like if you took a set of plans to the city and you have a plan to build a new home.
And it's only on paper.
And you submit it to go through the different agencies so you could get approval to build your new home.
And the plans are there.
They're going through the approval process.
Everybody's agreeing.
They're all on board.
And then you come to the final agreement.
The plans are approved.
And that's what's happened now in all of our cities throughout the entire world.
All these plans are approved.
So as a home builder, you have this set of plans for your new home.
It's been approved.
Now you need the money.
The money is coming into these cities to foment the furtherance of these plans.
And it's coming through agencies.
And there are many.
There are many.
We've discovered the 2030 District, just as an example.
And it's a network of of districts and there are the World Bank is involved in this, Goldman Sachs.
The list is so long on who's behind them and the areas that are now conceding to these plans for megacities, I'll just read a few of them to you because you have to understand we're being burned out of areas that are outside of Yeah,
I want to sort of emphasize that, if you don't mind, because in what happened here in Southern California, this is something I observed, and I realized that it was the same way in Northern California.
Which I grew up in Northern California.
And then when I was in my 20s, I moved to Southern California.
So I've lived in both places for over 20 years.
And so I'm quite familiar with a lot of it.
And I can say that in these areas, the one stunning thing is that none of the fire really hit the cities, at least as far as I know.
What it did was it went to the areas that are outlying that have land.
And they have rural land around them.
And that's what we have in this area, in the Thousand Oaks area.
In Malibu, you have it.
The Malibu fires never went into the city of Malibu.
I mean, the actual city city, which is really one street.
But, you know, it's not much of a city.
But you know what I'm saying?
It never went to Santa Monica.
It never went to the cities.
It hasn't touched the cities.
And this is, I believe, part of a forced move to get people to move away and out of rural areas into the cities.
Well, it absolutely is.
And the plan has been in play for decades and decades, and it's called the Wildlands Project.
Right.
And when you type in the Wildlands Project map, you see where the confinement of humans are going to be.
And the confinement of humans into...
The city growth areas is for literally greater productivity and profitability.
They believe, as in China, with the ghost cities that were built, these mega cities that were never lived in for a long time, but now they're forcing ranchers and farmers in China by gunpoint into these cities because they're trying to create powerhouses out of the cities Enlarging economic power.
That is what the goal is.
Well, you can imagine that's part of it, but it's also significant that communities, you know, if you wanted to have an off-the-grid community, you can do that in a rural area, or at least you could have done it.
Now it's becoming more and more difficult.
And, of course, there's also the thing where they don't want you to have seeds.
So they don't want you to plant.
They don't want you to have land to plant your own gardens on.
So, you know, it's really quite it is very intricate and very involved.
And I do think there's a lot of disinfo in there.
In terms of productivity, I mean, you know, this is ludicrous.
Of course, they're working, you know, off the backs of humans.
That's what they're building everything on.
But in reality, the cities are in dreadful shape.
It's also worth saying.
Well, the infrastructure has been let go because the money has been stolen from us.
And I'm going to talk about this right now because this is absolutely critical for everyone to understand.
We've gotten used to accepting the fact that Our retirement funds are not backed by money.
The cities are concerned about the inability and being unable to pay retirement funds.
We all know the unfunded retirement and pension programs.
We hear that.
What we don't think about is they're unfunded, so they don't exist.
There is no existing of something that has no money.
So then you have to ask the next question.
How on earth could the majority of the cities in the United States, and likely elsewhere too, have unfunded pension liability?
So obviously the money was stolen.
It hasn't been kept where it should have been.
But how is the accounting such that this could happen?
And that's what we're going to talk about right now.
Because I was recently attending a meeting with some other Investigators.
And we were observing the year end, because we're in the year end now, of a presentation on a summary and a financial plan for that particular venue that we were attending.
And I was reading, flipping through the financial plan, and I was reading things like accounting principles as required.
By the United States of America.
And all of a sudden it hit me like a...
It just really hit me.
We don't have a country.
It's a network.
It's a corporation.
And the financial plans as directed by the United States of America have to be very, very nefarious.
And they are.
It was worse than I thought, actually.
We started to do some investigation.
And what we've discovered...
Is that all of our cities have signed on to outside partnerships with accounting firms.
Every agency.
We're talking health departments, schools, your city, your city governments, agencies, your board of supervisors.
They've brought in outside accounting firms.
So I'm going to read some of this to you and you might be as shocked as I have been Because we're just now putting this story together.
It is a breaking story in many ways, and it is a story that will enhance a bond as we continue to dive into this.
But what we discovered, this one agency that's running a mass of accounting services for many cities in California and in the rest of the nation, you can find this by going to N as in Nelly, B as in boy, S. That's nbsgov.com.
And I'm going to read to you.
This is what they provide their clients and their partners.
They say they have worked with hundreds of local government and public agencies of every type and size, from the smallest small-purpose district to the largest of full-service cities.
We also work with counties and parishes, municipalities, and education and school districts.
Our goal is to make our clients look good in front of their constituents, including citizens, property and business owners, boards, councils, attorneys, advisors, proponent groups, and other professionals.
Now I'm going to repeat.
Their job is to make their clients look good In front of their constituents.
So let's get into this a little bit more.
It's rather horrifying to me.
It should be horrifying to all of you because our cities have been taken by illegal accounting practices as sponsored by our illegal rogue United States of America accounting requirements.
So here's what they go on to say.
Knowledge you can trust.
Making sure your utility rates are justifiable in an ever-changing environment requires dedicated attention that you cannot accommodate.
This is how they're selling their services to your cities.
They can't do this work.
Here's another example.
Planning for revenue.
Ensuring that you charge appropriate cost.
Justified fees requires a depth of analysis and ongoing attention that goes beyond your team's current ability.
They go on.
This is just diabolical as I was looking into this and it should be diabolical to every single one of you because this is the depth of the ensnarement that we have been trapped into.
And what I see, the bottom line of this is leading every single city into bankruptcy.
Because I'll tell you why.
What these plans are outlining is absolute sheer demise.
When we went up and spoke at this one meeting that had the representation from this agency there, we asked the agency, have you factored in the very clear warning from our government The climate change, which all of us know is climate and weather control.
But be it as it may, the cities use climate change.
And they were asked, have you factored in the heavy cost of climate change and the economic hit that our cities are taking now in factoring future revenues?
And all the mouths dropped.
What is happening is we're being attacked By a weapons system that is not being accounted for and they know they're attacking us.
An example.
The meeting that we attended was a mosquito and vector control meeting where this analysis of accounting was presented.
And they were told that in a few years their income was not going to meet Their expense requirements.
They would either have to reduce services of vector control.
Now, many of us don't want to be sprayed with NELID, N-A-L-E-D, as they did over Houston after Hurricane Harvey, when the Pentagon ordered the Air Force to spray over 6 million acres of NELID. Look that up.
And we discovered this actually by attending the Vector and Mosquito And I would recommend that you all start attending some of these meetings.
It's diabolical.
Totally diabolical.
Completely.
And that's where you get information by being out there and attending these meetings.
Plus, you always have a three-minute opportunity to talk and you can also talk at these meetings as well.
And this is where we do quite a bit of filming and get that up on our YouTube channel where you'll see I spoke in front of the County Board of Supervisors right after the fires in February of 2018.
And you'll see that under Plan to Burn Up Northern California and it's the half-hour segment.
And these are the kinds of things you can do because your cities are ineffective.
They're rolling over you with murderous plans.
And sadly, it's not that I believe that every elected official or presumably elected official because they run policies That they have no control over.
In fact, it was recently discussed at one of the meetings I attended by a city council member because there was a discussion about the 5G frequency deployment in the city.
And the city said they absolutely have no jurisdiction over any type of frequency that's put into their city.
There is zero jurisdiction.
And we know that.
The FCC is, of course, run by Crown Castle out of England.
It's the energy frequency beast, and it's run by Google.
The FCC is like our California Public Utility Commission, which is just an arm of Rothschild that allows increased rates.
They work together in tandem, and they're not who we think they are.
What we were told by this accounting firm was that they have proprietary data and ways in which to put together all of the needs for the city.
And they were talking about how their presentations for their clients on this proprietary data is truthful, transparent, They don't hide numbers.
And I will tell you, at that point I had to get up there and I said, you know, as a private business entrepreneur for years, I would have never used the word transparent in pulling together a statement, a financial statement.
The numbers are the numbers, period.
Where did this new vocabulary around all of the numbers come from?
And I was very disturbed.
And some of the other board members were asking the same thing.
But I want to go on and develop this story to the larger picture that it is so all of you understand the enormity of what I'm talking about.
Because it is an enormous situation.
So here's what they say on their website.
That's nbsgov.com.
They're developing smart solutions.
All public servants walk a fine line between maximizing operational revenue And maximizing the value to residents and constituents.
That can be a difficult balance to strike in the best of times.
When resources are low and the demand on general funds is high, it can feel impossible.
That's where we work most effectively on your behalf.
We help uncover opportunities to decrease the pressures on general funds And increase the revenue needed to ensure the quality of life and business for those of you in your community.
Now that's how they sell it.
And your elected officials are not accountants.
They hire everything outside.
And we have a nefarious accounting practice through an illegitimate government that is entangling us in increased taxes and bringing in more and more Acceptance of grants.
This is what's happening.
We're being strangled.
This is an economic hitman team in every single city and in every single government agency throughout our entire country.
So here's a few other examples.
They talk about utility rate and capacity fee studies, water and sewer and recycled water, solid waste and stormwater.
And they go how they will create Defensible rates increases that support forward-looking strategic financial plans.
Now I've got to talk about this.
We are being told that we're running out of water, and we're not.
We have primary water.
We are not running out of water.
Water is a renewable.
And we are being told that water comes exclusively from rain and snow melt, when in fact rain and snow melt is the evaporation From the new water, called primary water, that's created down below the mantle of the Earth by the process of hydrogen and oxygen.
In fact, places that are served by primary water, and there aren't that many, people have much higher IQs.
So what is happening by creating the privatization of all water supplies?
And that's what's happening now.
And it's far advanced.
We're being told now that we must drink our urine and poop.
That they're going to build more recycling.
They call them waste water treatment plants.
Let's use the right words.
Waste is sewer.
Waste is sepal matter and urine and deadly pharmaceuticals that are not able to be taken out of the treatment of the water.
And they're planning to and are going to serve this back up to us in all of our municipal water supplies.
We have found some documents that talk about the plants, and I've got to say this.
They also talk about the fact that these wastewater treatment plants are now functioning under quite a bit of computer-directed technology.
And they talk about their concerns of hacking and the amount of raw sewage that could mistakenly be delivered into our reservoirs.
But here's what they're saying.
This is what the plan is.
Listen very, very carefully.
These are out of documents.
They're saying that they're going to create a blend of treated sewer water in reservoirs.
They're going to be pumping in We're delivering to upstream water flows that will drain and go into the reservoirs and blend in to reservoir water and then pump in poisons with other chemicals, the chlorine, the fluoride, whatever else they're going to pump in, including, of course, all of the adulterated pharmaceuticals.
And this is what's going to be pumped into our homes as drinking water.
This is the plan.
Incredible.
Yeah.
And I can tell you that you look at an accounting firm like this that is supporting financing through your cities with these, literally, these deadly wastewater treatment plants.
And the wastewater treatment plants are also used as storm-directed flooding.
Because they can flood those areas and the industrial waste plants as well and cause tremendous leaching of toxins into the local areas and floating through the cities and many houses are just devastated with high levels of water and most of it is highly, highly toxic.
But they go on to tell us how these accounting firms will estimate Reasonable cost, and they'll provide all of our governmental agencies the services they need to implement fee amounts in line with laws and local policies.
And again, those increased fees that the constituents, all of us, will be satisfied because they're going to lay the need.
They go on to say, again, knowledge you can trust, making sure your utility rates are justifiable.
And I'm going to talk about some of the cities here in California that have signed on as clients, but this is only an extremely short list.
But they're cities that many of the listeners will know because they're known throughout the world.
Palm Springs.
South Lake Tahoe.
Oakland.
We have many, but I'm not going to name them all.
The City of Napa.
The City of Carlsbad.
City of Sacramento.
The city of Spokane.
There are many, many cities on their list of financial and accounting takedowns.
You need to understand who's behind all of this.
Again, they say that this is the best in-class software.
You need to understand.
This is a takedown accounting mechanism.
That has been fully deployed.
Now who's behind this?
Who's financing this?
Who's funding this accounting takedown in all of our cities?
The League of Cities.
Now you need to understand in the plan that I looked up, because I'm in California, it says the League of California City.
But you need to understand you're all in the League of Cities, no matter where you are.
This is an international Criminal cabal using financing software, proprietary of that, to literally bankrupt all of us in the face of weather weapons assault on us.
At this mosquito vector control meeting, I want to add, that they've discovered that they're going to be down $50,000 a year in annual revenue because of all of the loss of property that has been destroyed.
And the fact that much of that property is not going to be rebuilt.
And I'm going to add one more thing to the lack of rebuilding right now.
Many of you may remember that a Hilton Hotel was burned to the foundation again in October of 2017.
A Hilton Hotel was decimated.
Another hotel chain, Marriott, wanted to come in.
They wanted to present plans and rebuild, and they were denied.
Because the city has decided that they will not allow out-of-town guests to be in a known burn area of high risk and they may not realize that when they're staying in that hotel.
They have denied the building of this reconstructed hotel in the burn area.
We're going to start to see more and more of that.
But that's just one second, because that's very suspicious.
That indicates that if the reason is because out of town guests should not have to stay in a previously burned area, that indicates that there's some kind of toxins or residue that would be detrimental to their health that indicates that there's some kind of toxins or residue that would In other words, it would seem that that's the reason.
I mean, why else would you not want them to be in a previously burned area?
Well, they link it to the fact that there could be a fire any time.
So there was a fire once before so there could be a fire again.
I mean, this is, of course, this is absurd.
Now, Deborah, I just want to give you a heads up.
We have been going for about an hour and a half here, I think.
But I need to say that we do need to kind of...
Shorten things a little bit because I'm trying to keep this going only until 5 o'clock California time.
And that leaves us about 30 minutes.
But I do want to mention the fact that the groundwater has already been infiltrated by leaks of radiation from the various plants around the United States.
That's already leaking.
And certainly in Southern California, this is really obvious.
I don't know whether Northern California is inundated by that.
But there's also the methane gas that we were talking about on the phone that are basically, according to at least one of my whistleblowers and one of the super soldiers, two different people, Claiming that there are going to be rivers of fire running through the United States.
And the reason for that is the methane that's actually going up through the rivers at this time, coming from places like the Gulf oil spill and other places where methane has been allowed to seep into the groundwater.
Well, we would have to wonder, and I don't know, maybe some of your listeners can have a comment on this, We have to also look at the fact that our waste water is now going to be pumped into our streams and delivered as they blend into our reservoirs.
And we have to wonder what that might do to causing ignition.
But we are also now understanding that the 5G network is now going to become a fiber network.
We've been investigating Crown Council and they have a fiber network division.
And they're talking about the undergrounding of the 5G network.
And I too have had some information shared with me by someone that told me what a super soldier was saying.
And the super soldier was saying they wanted to blow up sun because they found out that the overlords, whomever you want to consider that to be, are going to use fire and floods And that would account then for why the fiber for the 5G would now be considered to go underground because they're, of course, the ones that are starting the fires.
They know what the plans are and they're having to protect that system.
I want to say one more thing in light of the fact that we've been going for a while.
This is horrific and everyone needs to hear this.
Again, I cannot urge...
Everyone enough to go to your Climate and Resilient Action Plan in your area.
Look it up.
Find out what kind of weather attack they say will happen to you.
They don't use those words.
You will read in your plan something like, and it doesn't necessarily easy to find, but you have to look through your plan.
You will find that if you don't reduce your agreed greenhouse gas emissions, You will experience either heat events, flooding, fires, algae, water shortages, dust storms.
There's a variety of consequences in every plan, and they're all somewhat different.
But the one common thread that I have found thus far in all the plans is increased heat.
And we know that with increased heat, we're being told that we will become a nation on fire because of the increased combustibility.
We have recently been told here by not only CAL FIRE, but also a town hall meeting at the Commonwealth Club in San Francisco, where CAL FIRE was represented as well.
This was just during the most recent fires here in In Butte County, where the town of Paradise was pretty much leveled.
And we were told that we will be a world on fire because of the high combustibility.
And that is what we have been told.
And so I want to let all of you know that just right now, just today, and I'll be posting this on StopTheCrime.net under Hot Topics, we received a weather advisory out of Santa Barbara.
California that was also burned and had those horrific, deadly mudslides, because that's what flooding does as well, mudslides.
And it is a storm readiness preparedness advisory in a list.
Mainly it says, ready, alert, be aware, set, prepare to leave, go, leave now.
And there are many things aside these that I just read to you, but that will be on Hot topics on StopTheCrime.net.
I quickly want to just let everyone know that we found the Cal Fire hazards list, where it lists about 188 cities in California that are likely to burn.
They're in high fire risk.
And it's important to understand that they're talking about 1,300 California communities accounting for 3 million housing units that have been classified as vulnerable to major damage from wildfire.
And in Nevada County, that's on this list, and this is going to be an area that is going to be hit because they're talking about this.
And we spoke about this recently, Carrie, about our recent trip to Grass Valley in Nevada City here in California.
We were there Oh, my gosh.
Oh, my gosh.
The area is dry.
The area is absolutely beautiful.
It is a historic town, and it's on the burn list.
And very quickly, areas in California that are on the burn list, there are five cities in Alameda County.
I'm not going to name them all, but Butte County is Chico and Paradise, so the town of Paradise just burned.
The Contra Costa area, Richmond, Lafayette, Martinez.
I'm not listing them all.
Again, El Dorado.
Lake.
That would be Clear Lake.
For those of you, Clear Lake, geographically, is in the Northern California area, just inland from Sonoma County.
It has burned three times in the last few years.
Massive, massive wildfires.
Los Angeles County, there are 39 cities listed.
Cary, Agora Hills, Arcadia, Azusa, Beverly Hills, Burbank, Calabasas, Covina, Culver City, Diamond Bar, Glendale.
Those are a few.
In Placer County, in Plymouth County, Riverside County here in California, there are 22 cities on the hit list, the Burn-'em-up hit list.
And they include just a few, I'll name just a few, Desert Hot Springs, Hemet, Lake Elsinore, Palm Desert, Palm Springs.
Many of you are familiar with Palm Springs, Riverside, Temecula.
In San Bernardino, they have 15 cities on this tavern list.
Big Bear Lake, that is a beautiful area.
I've been up there many, many times.
Yeah, but it is also very, very dry.
And it is.
They talk about Chino Hills, Fontana, Hesperia, Rancho Cucamonga, Redlands, San Bernardino.
This is posted on StopTheCrime.net.
There are many other cities.
Marin, for example.
Okay, but I want to stop you there, you know, just because of limited time.
And it's valuable.
I assume people can find this somewhere, this information on your site?
Yes, absolutely.
Okay.
On StopTheCrime.net under Hot Topics.
Okay.
And it will be also included in some of our current YouTubes.
So go to stop the crime to our YouTube video channel and you'll see it embedded in the YouTube as well.
But yes, you have something else you wanted to say, Carrie.
Yeah, because what I want to do is is I want to talk about the fact that this change has to do with not global warming, contrary to what they tell you, but actually changes in the sun.
changes in the volcanism underground.
So what they're not...
See, they're not telling you the real reasons, especially, you know, California.
We discussed this, Deborah.
California has a lot of volcanism under the ground.
We have evidence of it because you get the sulfur smell that comes into our water.
And we have that here in this area.
It's on the way to Malibu.
It's been in the mountains of Santa Barbara.
They have vents, steam vents that actually show that with a volcanism is coming close to the surface.
Also in Palm Springs area.
So, and there are things that happen like in Chatsworth where they had for some reason this whole community issue.
It basically had to be evacuated because of this stuff coming up from the ground that was, in essence, a volcanism.
But they don't tell anyone.
So eventually what we've also got is the eruption.
Well, it's going to be the triggering of Yellowstone that will then do a triggering of the volcanoes in California and in Washington and Oregon along the coast.
And so you're going to have basically a triggering and I actually, an unwanted publicity guy has done several articles showing you how even in the Hawaiian, you know, volcanism that happened there.
Yes, that this was actually triggered by a certain company that establishes itself right next door.
And then drills in diagonally, et cetera, et cetera.
So there are causes for the things that are happening.
In other words, I think it seems nonsensical to people that all of a sudden places that you've lived your entire life, I've been in California my entire life, are suddenly, you know, burn ready.
You know, when in fact, my entire life, I'm not going to say how old I am, but I'm over 50 and They've been fine.
Yes, periodic small fires, but never to the degree that we're having now.
And this also has to do, very likely, with what's being triggered by the energetic waves that we're going through as our entire galaxy and solar system is moving.
In the direction of Sagittarius.
So these are things that are much larger that have more to do with the overall warming of the planet and the underground waters and the volcanism and so on and so forth and the link up with the sun.
And again, these energies, these frequencies are coming in.
So the grid, you could actually look at the grid that they're laying on the earth This false grid, this network of 5G, this AI network, as being a grid that they're trying to lay over the changes that will happen anyway because consciousness is rising on the planet and we're going through these amazing areas of space.
That are bringing in all kinds of things including meteors, more meteors coming to hit the earth as well as the active volcanoes being close to erupting and things of this nature where they're also being pushed along because the whole playbook in the Bible that the Illuminati follow religiously is to actually make these things happen to work with the flow of I
And to actually put their own sort of spin on it and to create, to eliminate the population in the places that they choose, as opposed to what would naturally happen with souls leaving the earth out of choice for certain and different animal species are leaving the earth, even out of choice.
It's not just that they're being eliminated.
There's a lot going on that has, these are layers, right?
So, whereas we see what the man-made side of it, there's another side of it.
And it's important to realize that.
So these things are not just happening in a vacuum, in other words.
And I just wanted to sort of widen the discussion a little bit so that people...
You know, it's very valuable to know everything you're saying.
And it's very valuable for people who can also maybe put some steps in to prevent certain things.
But as people are being pushed off the land and no longer being...
In control of the land.
This is key.
You know, China's role in buying up a lot of the properties in California, for example, and in other places.
And Harvard University recently stealthily buying up land.
Right.
So there is a push, and they are pushing people Into the cities where they can control them and they can exterminate them much more easily.
And think about also, I know it's like, this is so crazy, but they're also thinking of now, of course, electric cars that self-drive.
You don't have any wherewithal to drive yourself to get away, right?
If you don't have your own vehicle, you can't outrun whatever it is.
If you're stuck in some car that's part of a grid that drives itself and is obeying Skynet, for example.
I'm pretty certain that most physical forms of humanity as we know it now are not going to be behind those autonomous vehicles.
Well, I think the United States, because we're notorious in this way and because, you know, we love to drive and be independent in this way, but the writing's on the wall.
Whether we're successful in stopping this whole electric car, self-driving car, I mean...
All of it is a push to basically take over the planet and away from humanity in the end of the day.
That's exactly true.
So if you wanted to sum it all up in one sentence.
Well, Carrie, I know we could spend a few more hours on these topics.
Yes.
And I hope we will.
And we will.
Bring you back and every time I do want one more thing before you go I want you to talk about you said you were going to go look at the waves that the waves were escalating in the Sonoma area did you investigate that and what happened?
Yes so for everyone that's listening the past few days here along the Sonoma San Francisco coastline we have been being told in our weather forecast that we were going to be experiencing 40-foot waves and more.
In fact, there's a surfboard competition called Maverick that they had to actually postpone yesterday because of some of the waves 40 and 50 feet.
Now, we went out on the coast yesterday to film and observe some of these monster waves ourselves.
And, yes, we saw...
Waves that were probably 25, 30 feet in height.
And there were many people out there observing yesterday.
And what is happening, and we filmed signs, and we'll put this up on StopTheCrime.net, because they talk a lot about sleeper waves or sneaker waves.
And it's important to understand that there are frequencies used to increase the storm surge.
And we have a YouTube up.
Entitled, Coastlines Under Attack, Storm Surge Artificially Created.
Again, Coastlines Under Attack.
And we'll demonstrate in that that all agencies of the military are involved.
And in codes around the coastlines everywhere, where 70% of the human populations live, there is what is called now Planned retreat.
You can type this in, coastlines, planned retreat, and you will find that low-lying areas around the coastlines, around the world, are being intentionally vacated.
This is another grab of land, using the ocean to consume the land, because they can't.
And again, We saw those waves yesterday.
We were filming them.
They were monster waves.
And they were bigger, though, in San Francisco.
I want to say one last thing, Carrie, because what we also have up on StopTheCrime.net is there is an article out of the San Francisco Chronicle that identifies about 68 San Francisco high-rises that are going to literally...
Collapse in the next earthquake because of weld joints in the framing construction.
These buildings were built in the 70s and they realized that there are weld joints that will fracture in an earthquake.
And in that article, which you can find on Hot Topics on StopTheCrime.net, they identify the buildings with the addresses and This is because there are earthquakes on demand as well, just as what occurred and they did in Haiti.
And we know that Google and Amazon now are building large corporate facilities now in New York.
And New York and San Francisco have always been vying for the focal position.
And there has been noise around the big earthquake packets.
Back in the day that it was actually a created earthquake as well.
But having said that, we have to pay attention to the destruction that's planned for California and the big cities.
They're bringing us to our knees with the economy and the weather weaponized hits and the accounting practices and all of the other plans that are in play and certainly all of the other Aspects of assault in so many directions.
So, Carrie, I really want to thank you so much for having me on.
Okay, now before you go, one more thing.
Remember that article that we were going to talk about at the beginning, but we didn't get to, that had to do with, was it Grass Valley?
And then suddenly you said that sort of you had a precog moment when you were there, that it was going to burn.
Was that the place?
And then there's an article in the paper that basically was saying the same thing.
Yes.
Yes.
We were up in Nevada City, Grass Valley, on December the 14th and the 15th.
And while we were driving there, we were noticing all the dead trees.
We were noticing all the cell phone towers.
It was being heavily, heavily chemtrailed.
We were noticing all of that.
It was feeling very uncomfortable.
And we were feeling irritated because of the high electro-smog in the area.
Now, it's a beautiful town.
It's an old town, a mining town, beautiful vintage homes.
The downtown area is amazing.
The theater that we saw an event in was a theater where Mark Twain spoke.
That is the vintage and the timing of this area.
Beautiful.
And the whole while we were there, I was feeling that it will burn because it just felt combustible.
The atmosphere was combustible.
And we did not sleep that night because we were agitated.
We could not sleep.
Some other people that joined us there also experienced the same restlessness and inability to rest.
Those are all symptoms of electromagnetic frequencies, by the way.
Absolutely.
But when we returned the very next day, on Sunday, in our local newspaper, there was this article, and it's entitled, Scramble to Avoid the Next Tragedy.
And they say, some in Nevada County fear that they could suffer the same fate as Paradise.
And this is Nevada City where we were.
Nevada City.
The deadliest wildfire in California history was blazing not far from Nevada City, only about 70 miles north in the town of Paradise.
And they go on to say that many of the homeowners now in Nevada City are very, very worried about burning up like Paradise.
And they're talking about how their homeowners insurance, all their insurances are set to triple.
And many are seriously considering leaving Because like Paradise, there's one evacuation route only.
And like Paradise that burned, the burn area started in front of the evacuation route, which is why so many people died and there was such mass exodus and confusion in the evacuation process.
So this article ran in the local paper the day after we returned.
Ceilings.
That this city is next.
And I can only say that this is happening.
This will happen.
Okay, now, I do want to say that you have also gotten the same thing that I have gotten, which is not only the directed energy weapons side of it, so that they are escalating the fires.
So what would happen, even if you wanted to call it natural, which...
It simply isn't, and there's no way it could be natural.
Simultaneously, Northern California and Southern, same time, a year ago and then this year.
At the exact same time, both Northern...
I mean, it's like they light a match and they just say go.
But aside from that is the...
Basically, it appears to be the alien contingent.
The fact that our military is fighting certain alien races.
Now, Mark Richards is the first person who came out with this information well over a year ago, long before anyone else.
And now certain people, not going to name names, are jumping on the bandwagon and talking about it.
But I do want to say that, Deborah, you've also been told, Bat Channel, that there is this alien contingent that underlies possibly especially the Paradise Fires.
Is that correct?
Well, I have heard that.
And it's quite honestly something, again, I base what I've discussed with documents.
And I have certainly lots of other information that I share amongst friends.
But On Stop the Crime and my work is about exposing the documents.
Because as crazy as all of this is, the documents don't lie.
And it's not an assumption, and it's not something...
I've studied the documents, and I've heard a lot about the alien contingency as well.
I've heard much about the good and the evil, and the fighting of what that represents as well.
Well, as far as just keeping...
I've heard a lot.
Absolutely.
Yeah, and just on behalf of keeping this a balanced transmission, we want to make sure that people know that we are highlighting that as also being in the background.
And that I have addressed in my own videos and so on, but I did want to touch on that because I know that you've also been getting word to that effect.
Which is interesting because you don't cover that topic.
So as word gets out and certain people are talking, it's important.
We are also getting the truth from the witnesses.
And there's nothing like a person's naked eye and looking.
I mean, I literally walked on the ground where the fires were here and saw some anomalous effects that I can't explain.
I would need a fireman to explain.
And there's a lot of those questions.
We also have areas in our area where They're not letting people go in.
And there's no reason, no obvious reason.
In other words, there's no power lines down, you know, but they're still not allowing people in.
And I think it's very suspicious.
Well, I agree.
And we found and witnessed closures in areas in the town of Paradise as well.
And in fact, we heard something very interesting on our broadcast locally here in Northern California.
Someone is releasing a book of their experience when Fountain Grove here October 8th of 2017 burned.
And there was an area there of about 300 and some odd homes that did not burn.
One of the only areas that survived the fires.
And the reason is that those people stayed behind and kept putting out the spot fires in that area And they had a point of contact.
They were a tight-knit neighborhood and they were patrolling and they were saying the nights of the fire looked like anarchy.
There were hooded people and masks running throughout the area and attempting to loot the area.
This is all during the fires when people were evacuating.
Right.
Because people were going in.
They were being inserted to cause more chaos and to steal whatever positions they could within some of the homes.
But they were literally chasing these people out.
They managed to stay up behind the lines when they were repeatedly told they had to evacuate and they would not.
And I find it very interesting to learn What they were seeing that night when other people fled and they chose to stay.
Well, yeah, this is all part of it is the idea that the fires are a cover for other activities and among those are the directed energy weapons.
Weapons that may be being tested that we do not even know what they are in essence.
Well, they're beyond testing.
We've got many documents.
Even back before 2001, but many might remember that Krasinich was against space-based weapons.
And we're rolling all of that information.
We're freshening up those documents that we've talked about over the years.
They will be up on Hot Topics on Stop the Crime so that many of you can look at some of these.
Also under our Resource Document tab on Stop the Crime to understand that these weapons have been far advanced We are the enemy.
We're in an illegitimate government.
We're USA Inc.
We're now Earth Inc.
We do not have the elected officials that we thought, that we've been propagandized into believing that we have.
We are being taken, and we can see that.
So, Carrie, again, I really appreciate being on the show, and I look forward to coming up in the new year.
We'll see what the new year throws at us, right?
Absolutely.
Well, stay on top of it.
I know we will, and I'm sure you will, because you're doing an excellent job.
You're not only researching and backing everything up with documentation, but you're also going and hitting the ground and doing investigation on the ground.
So this is very valuable.
Well, thank you, Carrie, and thank you, everyone.
I know this is a long broadcast, but we appreciate your listening and certainly hoping that you're finding important value in some of the topics that we covered.
So thank you again.
This is Deborah Tavares with StopTheCrime.net and PrimaryWater.org.
They're coming after our water.
All right, so take care, and I'm going to let you go and have a great rest of the evening anyway, and we'll see what happens.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
So that is, wow.
It's really a crazy time.
I am going out of town, so I just want to say that I did two back-to-back broadcasts today so that, you know, people could see what's going on with these couple of topics that we covered here with Debra and And then,
of course, the earlier broadcast with Terry Anderson, who is an excellent remote viewer and psychic and a precog, and I'm sure we're going to hear more from her in the very near future.
If you haven't already heard my interview or the interview that Jimmy Church did with me, and it was on his show, so you'd have to look under his, you know, Fade to Black, I think it's called, radio show network.
I highly recommend it if you really want to see what I think about various things and so on.
And a lot of people have found it quite interesting, I think.
So, take care, and I will be Broadcasting next from England, and that will be when the technology and the circumstances do allow for that.