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June 7, 2018 - Project Camelot
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ALIEN PROTOCOLS - TEAM WITH TOP SCIENTISTS TO FILM UFOS
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Hi, everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and very happy to be here tonight.
I have an interesting guest.
He is going to be wearing a mask but he'll be visual anyway and so that's something I guess you could say and he's an interesting guy so we're going to have a little fun and talk to him about what his project is all about.
So Welcome.
I'm just calling you AP, short for Alien Protocols, correct?
Please.
Thank you, Carrie.
I appreciate it.
All right.
So I'm not really going to introduce you because I don't know anything about you, really.
So...
Other than you know Jack Sarfati and Dan Smith, you've been messing around with those guys for a while.
Why don't you give yourself a brief background?
Who are you?
What's your skill set?
Have you worked in the sector?
Have you done anything behind the scenes in the intelligence agencies?
Who are you and why are you coming forward?
Basically, I'm just a citizen.
I'm an experiencer and I've been inspired my whole life to research the topic and just had a fire and a passion for the visitors and the extraterrestrial phenomena.
Then, about six months ago, I got the inspiration to do this project, and the idea for the project was simple.
It was to get a bunch of meditators from around the world, because we know that consciousness plays a role in the UFO phenomena, get a bunch of meditators from around the world to concentrate on certain locations and to bring video cameras and scientific equipment.
All at the same time to one location to try and capture amazing footage and data simultaneously to prove their existence, but more importantly than get the materialistic metrics to kind of send a shockwave through society that, yes, the visitors are here.
We're in a very big universe and that we need to think about how we treat our planet.
You know right now if you look if you talk to any biologist they'll tell you that our planet is in a mass extinction right now of species and All the experiencers around the world are kind of resonating right now.
They're all Wanting to make contact they're wanting to do disclosure ourselves and And we're impatient.
We're not waiting for the government anymore.
We're not waiting for, you know, to the stars to give us enough video or documents from the Defense Department.
So, you know, my background is I'm just a citizen.
I've been in entertainment my entire career.
I'm an artist.
For some reason, artists are experiencers for some large percentage reason.
So, I was really called to kind of do this project and miraculously the pieces have fallen together over time.
We got an incredible scientific team together.
We started with just a bunch of independent scientists and technicians, but then started reaching out to other groups.
We reached out to MUFON about six months ago and started speaking with their then head of research, Chris Cogswell, who is a brilliant young scientist Who is trying to bring back the integrity to MUFON, to a bunch of innovative plans and techniques to gather data and to go through the metrics of the data they already have.
And sadly, though, he had to leave MUFON after only a short period of time.
He joined the head of research for six months or something, I believe, and had to leave because of their continued lack of ethics.
So he joined our team and brought his incredible group of scientists and equipment and stuff And we have an amazing group of advisors advising us, some really huge names.
Some people are official and some people are unofficial.
And we have a full cadre of television producers and cameramen.
So we have our full television team, our full science team.
And we've been making more and more contact with CE5 groups around the world, from Australia to New Zealand to Los Angeles to Georgia.
We've really grown and we're growing every day our network of meditators.
And so I felt the need in order to kind of help spearhead this thing to wear a mask in order to kind of make things a little easier, you know, not have people running around my property and I have a farm in Hudson Valley.
So I don't want people running through the woods saying, you know, where's E.T. and harassing my family and stuff.
But, you know, I'm really willing to take off the mask, you know, at some point, maybe even during the show tonight.
I'm really not afraid of saying who I am anymore.
Let me just say, sorry to interrupt you, you think that if they recognize your face, they will know where you live?
I mean, why are you putting those two things together so completely?
Well...
I just know that once I put my identity out there, my real name, who I am, people are going to start contacting me.
The people in the government who are interested in our project are The light attracts all sorts of different moths and all sorts of different types of moths.
And so, you know, personally, I don't want to necessarily have a bunch of people ruining events or important data nights at our locations.
And so there's concern about that.
There's quite a few members of our group that are leaders of the group that prefer their anonymity.
Our creative director is named Artsy Guy.
And we don't reveal his real name, but he's a really talented, top creative director, and he's lending his time and talents.
And our spiritual advisor is Rev Cat.
And she actually is an amazing...
We have just such amazing people in our group.
Ex-sheriffs.
Ex-police.
Okay, but now let me...
Okay, slow down, slow down.
So you got this idea.
You wanted to do this.
You have contact yourself, correct?
Correct.
Yeah.
Okay.
And different other stuff.
Okay, but what did you do for a career in your life?
Can you be more specific than I'm kind of an artistic guy?
I've been in entertainment as a performer and a writer and the past 15 years as a creative director.
So I worked some top companies and I've worked on everything from animation to radio.
So I've worked in a broad spectrum of entertainment.
Okay, now why do you think...
I mean, the people that you attracted as a team, let's start with I'm not sure when you got this started.
Maybe you could tell me.
But the first people that came on board, were they coming on board because they believed in you?
I think they believed in the message, you know, more than me.
They kind of were attracted to the YouTube channel.
It's the Alien Protocols YouTube channel.
And that's basically our home base.
And it has a lot of our philosophies and our thoughts and...
Everything about the visitors, everything from our different views on craft to possible propulsion and power systems to meta-materials to remote viewing.
So it covers a lot of ground.
Okay, but you were...
People came into that.
Right.
So people can go just type into YouTube Alien Protocols.
I think that's how I found you, right?
And if you saw my banner, you know that that banner does look, we took the picture from your sort of site.
But do you have a Facebook page as well?
We're just starting our other social media.
We have a Alien Protocols Weebly and Wix pages, but we're just kind of launching our social media now.
So our main home base is YouTube, but we're Okay, now, you're in touch with Sarfati, and you knew him going back.
I don't know how much he wants you to talk about that.
You said he's not technically a part of your group, but he's kind of a consultant.
Is that correct?
Yeah, and he's a friend.
I just kind of had a strange connection with him and a bunch of synchronicities, and I've maintained an email relationship with him and a friendship, and he's just a wonderfully brilliant guy who...
He has just incredible brain power and a wonderful spirit.
He's an experiencer on multiple levels, so he's one of us.
He's so much himself that the government and other agencies can't really contain him.
They can't contain his mouth.
He releases his papers for everybody.
He releases his documents and his formulas for everyone.
He's really a special guy.
He's also asked to be a member, I think I can say this, I don't think he said it was off the record, of Bohemian Grove.
So he's a special guy, but whether his access is quite as sophisticated as he maybe thinks it is, I don't know.
You know, he's a good guy.
I've enjoyed talking with him and I've met him in person a couple times.
You know, he's a very charming guy.
Now the other person you're in touch with is Dan Smith.
He's another personality out on the sector.
You want to talk a little bit about how you got in touch with Dan Smith?
Dan was through Princess Pandolfi and You want to explain who she is?
Because, you know, some of the people are in the know that are watching and listening, and they've been listening to, like if you know Grant Cameron, you've heard him mention some of these players.
Ron Pandolfi is head of the Weird Dust at CIA, or was for ages and ages, and may still be.
He's sort of the head honcho in some ways.
Some people seem to think he probably would deny that.
So Princess is his wife?
Correct.
And he and she has made a conscious effort to put themselves out there as who they are.
And they kind of like to lead some different stories and different kind of informational tracks, which are really more disinformational, obviously.
He's been very good friends with Dan for 26 years and every, you know, so often Leading Dan to believe that he was going to give Dan the keys to disclosure.
And, you know, Dan is really super wise guy.
He's, you know, every time I speak to him, I'm learning new words, new philosophy and everything.
But he's been, you know, I think, dragged around by Ron for many, many years with promises of disclosure every week or two, you know.
And Ron obviously is, you know, he's trying to do his job as the head of the Weird Desk or was.
And he oftentimes just does a lot of, you know, as far as I'm concerned, storytelling and disinformation to keep us off the real disclosure and the real information is that every day there's more and more craft visiting us.
They're tumbling from 80,000 feet to five feet above the water.
They're schooling our militaries and They don't know what the heck's going on, really.
They have some ideas, they've got some metal, they've got some this and some of that, but I think that these people who've had the information for so long don't want to let go of it now.
And I think everyone in the Disclosure community kind of feels like it's happening now, you know, with the To The Stars releases and a bunch of other things going on in the community.
More and more information is coming out every day.
Okay, well, let me ask you, I mean, you know, just point blank, I mean, are you part of the To The Stars effort?
Are you supposed to be, you know, they love to run, this is how the powers that be will do anything, disclosure or anything else.
I know from working at JPL as a contractor, How they basically like to line up competitive.
It's like runners in a race.
And they're all running parallel.
And they start, it's like a relay race.
And they start one group, and then they start the next group, and the next group, and the next group.
And it's kind of keeping your eyes off the ball so it's more difficult to actually follow the real, the rabbit, or whatever you want to call it.
And so this is, you sound like you're one of their little teams that they're letting out their...
You know, I like the way you contacted me.
You seem like a real person as opposed to, you know, some of the people that you deal with out there that are kind of already starting from a place of maybe dissent info or whatever.
But in your case, I mean, let me just say, you know, are you, because you're dealing with Sir Fati, you're dealing with Dan Smith, are they, you know, and I don't know if you're dealing directly with Ron Pandolfi, his wife, etc.
Some of these other players that you're not mentioning.
Maybe Kit Green.
They all kind of get on board.
Hal Pudoff, this is a team.
These guys are the team.
But they're running a disclosure, as far as I'm concerned.
It's what you call disclosure for the public's consumption.
They're another layer.
Actually, covering up the real story.
So are you running for them?
Are you working for them?
We're nobody's lackey.
I was in Occupy Wall Street.
I was sleeping on the street in Liberty Plaza the first two weeks.
So I'm really about the people.
I'm really about...
And that's why I'm going to take the mask off tonight and reveal who I am.
Well, you know, it occurred to me that actually people might recognize your voice and the way you talk.
So if this video gets around, word gets out and someone might reveal you anyway.
So it's kind of like it's up to you which comes first.
And that's all, it's all good.
It's not like, you know, the most earth-shattering thing to be, you know, have your face in public is so what?
But, in my world.
But, so, in terms of...
But I just want to show you, you bring up something that I want to address.
Okay.
You bring up the possibility that we could be working for the man, or working for the system, or the deep state, or the government, or anybody.
We are, for the people, 110%.
That's why everything that we have is completely for the people.
All of our data that we have now, we will share with anyone and we've accumulated a lot of really cool, interesting data.
Just metrics, but also stories and We have a lot of information that we're willing to share, and through the whole process, that's why I didn't mention it, but one of the key aspects of it is we're live streaming all of our events, all of these locations where we're trying to make contact, and all of our books are completely open.
We don't ask for money from the public.
This is funded by myself, basically, and a couple other people within the group.
We're not selling t-shirts with our cool logos, and we've got cool logos, but we don't want our integrity, you know, Subject to as much question as different organizations who are constantly asking for money, you know, and obviously, you know, like people like Dr.
Greer, who's someone I really respected for many, many years and has fought such a great fight for disclosure and brought so many people forward.
But in the past years, I've noticed things that have been very disturbing to me.
You know, the outrageous Snake oil kind of salesman stuff, asking for incredible amounts of money for appearances and for live events and for CE5 events.
And then the stuff that really disturbs me in our group is things like the fear-mongering, saying that the government has these fake bio-robotic Gray aliens and fake UFO craft and they're gonna stage a fake UFO invasion and prepare for this hoax alien invasion that's coming in.
No hoax alien invasion is coming.
That's just fear-mongering.
And it's kind of ridiculous.
And maybe like you said before, maybe the government or different people fed him information in a certain way to knock him off his horse or whatever.
But we are...
For the nature of transparency and honesty and openness, you know, I'm going to take this off right now and say who I am.
So I'm not really...
This is the first time doing this in six months.
Okay, well, right before you do that, let me ask you one thing.
You're the guy on the video, is that right?
Correct.
I'm on all the videos, yeah.
Yeah, and, you know, the reason I asked you on my show is actually because the way you behaved and the way you talked in the video, you sounded like a really intelligent guy.
And I liked the way you sort of were no-nonsense.
You were just sort of laying whatever it was out there.
And I also thought you had sort of a scientific bent to your ability to understand what it is you're dealing with.
In my interactions with you, I've also noticed you're a little naive on sort of the secrecy levels and some of the behind the scenes, you know, machinations of, you know, intelligence agencies and how they play with you and so on and so forth.
But everyone is, to some degree, until you get completely, you know...
You know, sort of down the rabbit hole all the way, you know, they mess with you and they've messed with Camelot and they love to mess with you.
So let me say that Gordon Novell was, Ron Pandolfi was what Gordon Novell considered like one of his best friends, his mentor, whatever you want to call that.
And he did the same thing that it sounds like he's doing to Dan Smith.
Basically led Gordon Novell down the garden path for eons.
And I used to tell Gordon he was like Sisyphus, you know, where Sisyphus is the one who rolls the boulder up the mountain.
And when he gets near the top, Ren Pondolfi is the guy that sends the boulder back down to the bottom.
So, you know, then he would get really mad at Ron when he would turn on him and do something crazy, which is total CIA modus operandi.
And then they would become best of friends again and so on and so forth.
So it goes back and forth like that.
I got the impression, though, that Dan Smith doesn't quite get treated like he treated Gordon.
And Gordon was trying to build an ARV. He was quite a brave guy, and he was trying to go off the reservation right before he died, and I believe he was killed.
So I don't know if Ron had anything to do with that.
I hope not, but you never know.
And I actually talked to Gordon the night before he died on the phone.
So...
Anyway, so that's kind of a little background there.
Now, I want you to feel safe, and I want your family to be safe, and I don't want...
There's no coercion here to make you take off your mask or whatever, but I do think the best place to hide is out in the open.
I'll say that much, but everyone takes their chances, and you do what you want.
I do want to mention a story that happened the other night.
Where on the Open Minds Forum, which is Dan's disclosure place, they were talking about Joe Furmage.
And Joe Furmage has this device he's been working on.
And they were talking about it being the new avenue for disclosure.
And they kept talking about the device and talking about the device.
And so I decided to do a little bit of investigating and got video and pictures and blueprints of the device and did some videos that I posted on YouTube as kind of just for the forum there.
And I can show you pictures of the device right now.
I don't know if you can see it here or not, but there it is.
It's a gyro.
That's the first early incarnations of it.
It got a little bit more sophisticated, where it looks a little bit more like that now.
And it's an electronic gyro that basically slightly reveals a quirk in space-time.
And so they've got some metrics that show that it...
Well, this is basically portal technology.
It was also in that movie with...
What's her name?
Anyway, counter-rotating spheres.
I mean, the Nazis were working on this all those years back.
So this is nothing new.
I hope you know that.
No.
Oh, no.
In fact, you see it in the movie Hellboy.
You see a portal that's a gyro just like these kind of things.
Right.
But Firmage has gotten a lot of investors involved in it, and they've sunk a lot of money into this.
Sure.
They were talking about it, a fevered pitch on the forum.
So I brought up a bunch of these pictures, and Some blueprints and other things like this one here for some future designs.
Some stuff was, you know, remote viewed and some stuff was just acquired.
And you're quite a good remote viewer, is that right?
Correct, yes.
Yeah, that's great.
And so then at 3 o'clock in the morning, apparently Joe Permage called Ron, and Ron called Dan, and Dan called me at like 3 o'clock in the morning.
Like, where the hell did you get this stuff, you know?
And, you know, are you working for some other government?
And then are you a hacker?
And I'm not a hacker.
And so, you know, that goes to your point about not making some people happy with us lately.
But, you know, our intent is to, you know, disclose everything that we come across, everything that we find, you know, is the people's right.
Disclosure is the people's birthright.
And right now, The orchestra is in full swing.
All the experiencers can feel it.
The sightings are going up every single day.
And it's an exciting time to be alive.
And we hope that our project, after some amazing footage and amazing data, and maybe help with that new age of enlightenment that, you know, we're not alone on this little planet.
Okay, now, yeah, that someone put into the chat.
We have a chat room along here where the people can also ask their questions, just so you know.
Basically, Jodie Foster contact, you know, a similar type device was shown in that movie.
Yeah.
But there's also what's called the hinge in the Nazis were dealing with this technology all those years ago.
ago and of course I'm about to release a documentary uh I just got back from Egypt for the fifth time and was struck by basically the portal technology depicted on the walls of the temples and how people are missing that hello and stargates you know portals stargates vortexes they all go like this you know there's a relationship there
and um you know there are a lot of people that are really kind of dumb about this stuff and you know with no offense and uh tolroidal physics is also part of it um so it's good that you you're kind of like you're not so stupid that you don't get it so you kind of got that and you understood and then are you gonna you know I know you told me behind the scenes something that happened Are you prepared to say what happened when Furmich and his group got together and operated it, that sort of thing?
Well, they had a weird effect.
Apparently there was like an entity that was seen by one of the people associated with it.
The device really doesn't fly.
They hoped That it would be the new way to tool around the galaxy, but it doesn't.
It just rattles and lifts off the ground momentarily and does betray some quirks of space-time.
So there is some, you know, scientific metrics that they have to prove that.
But, you know, they want to commercialize the last version of it.
Let me see if I have this picture here.
This four-module version of it.
Uh-huh.
Apparently, if they are able to prove that it reduces, it nullifies gravity to a certain extent, then they may have something that's worth money.
But the jury's very, it's still out on that.
Okay, well, now, you know who Hal Puthoff is, I assume?
Yes, of course.
And you know that he knows this stuff kind of backwards and forwards, right?
Yeah, and the metamaterials.
He's the guy testing the metamaterials.
And he's the guy spearheading it and talking with Eric Davis and Jack Sarfati and all the top minds to try and understand this super advanced technology.
More than they think it is.
I mean, let's talk about this now.
So if we have a secret space program, you know, I assume you contacted me, you know what I'm about.
So I've got witnesses, like gobs of witnesses.
Going back many years at this point, talking about bases on the moon and Mars, talking about terraforming other planets, moons of Saturn, Jupiter, going interstellar.
So, you know, all of what you're talking about is very remedial for a secret space program that's already doing the things I'm talking about.
As well as, as Henry Deacon said, he came out under his own, his real name, Arthur Neumann.
Hush up, honey.
Go lay down.
That's my dog.
Anyway, and so, you know, how do you kind of balance those two worlds in your head?
In my head, look, there's so much of this phenomenology that you have to Use your own discretion and each person finds their own lines for themselves in terms of what is evidence to them and what's facts to them and how much you take a witness to bear.
I'm one of those people who I would not believe me if I saw me on YouTube.
I would be like, I'm skeptical of this guy.
I want to see more evidence.
I want to see more background.
And that's how I feel about the Secret Space Program.
I know that there's obviously stuff that they're doing.
There's obviously stovepiped different aspects of the government that are doing anti-gravity work and do have some craft and stuff.
But the extent of that, you know, I don't know.
And I can only say that I have beliefs.
I believe that there's something going on on the Moon and Mars and perhaps even, you know, farther out, I believe.
And my beliefs change over time as I get new evidence and hear, you know, new things.
So, you know, I like to consider myself someone who's very fact-based, very science-based.
If a witness only has other witnesses to back them up, then I take that with a grain of salt.
No matter how compelling the story is, in my own brain I have to have a skeptical mind about everything.
Okay, but didn't you just tell me you were a remote viewer?
You also consider yourself an intuitive.
So it's not just your scientific mind that's at work here.
And, you know, I appreciate what you're saying, but I think the technologies the Nazis have, even if you just start with that, you don't even go back to Atlantis that's starting to crop up in fucking...
Sorry for my French, Antarctica.
And, you know, if you just want to pretend that doesn't exist, you know, go ahead.
You know, this is nuts and bolts.
Okay, Antarctica is like a real place with ice, explorers, and they had a war down there.
And the Nazis have a base down there, and so on and so forth.
But we can pretend that that's all possibly just based on witness testimony, if you wish.
You know, for me, I look at craft like this, that we were fishing in Germany a few days ago.
And this looks like it's man-made.
This doesn't look like it's made from extraterrestrials with, you know, wonderful efficiency.
And, you know, this looks like exactly the kind of stuff that you're talking about.
Well, that's actually very remedial compared to, have you ever seen the moon photos and the craft photos that are close to the sun done by John Walson, John Leonard Walson?
Now, that's a craft, okay?
What you're showing me, sure.
I mean, look, the secret space program, they wouldn't have a space program if they didn't learn something from the ETs and start building this shit.
Neither would the Nazis, for that matter.
So, you know, this is what humans are capable of.
Yeah, that's the Holloman from the Holloman film.
Right.
I mean, there's no doubt about that.
So, you know, there's lots of levels, obviously.
And, you know, as Hoagland says, the lie is different at every level.
I also am beginning to say that the truth is different at every level because that's basically what disclosure is.
They're disclosing on levels.
And what they think...
That the market will bear at this moment is a very superficial look at what's going on and unfortunately ends up to be another lie because they're only going so deep.
So that's what we're sort of stuck with.
But I appreciate your enthusiasm and your sort of, you know, open-eyed willingness to kind of get people together.
And you're getting good people together.
So it's possible that this can go into the public domain, that the powers that be will give it their blessing, that the ETs will give it their blessing, and maybe, you know, something will come out of it for you.
I can tell you that it's kind of a coincidence, if you want to call anything a coincidence in this world, or synchronicity that, you know, John Walson and Project Camelot tried to do a similar thing to what you're actually talking about and sell it as a television show, package it, you know, to do this live on television, to go around, to film the craft, I would interview whoever was there.
We were going to do something very similar to what you're describing.
Professional crew, the whole nine yards, and I can't tell you the sabotage that happened to that project.
And it went, you know, like an axe fell.
It was just incredible.
You know, everyone keeps telling us that, you know, it's going to happen.
It's going to happen.
And what I keep thinking is what I thought from the beginning is that every day we're putting out interesting videos that deal with this topic, deal with the propulsion systems, Our observations and the things that we're learning from our different innovative methods that we choose to use and every day we're putting out something interesting and they will get more out of watching us and trying to collect our data after an event rather than to try and shake
me down or our group down beforehand because They're not going to shake me down.
I come from a social justice family.
I've got Occupy Wall Street blood in me.
It's very difficult to just shake me down.
I'm not I'm afraid of the personal consequences.
If we're able to do good, even if we don't reach our destination, even if we don't get the most amazing video and the best data ever, if along the way we open some doors to disclosure and we help people along the way and we open up some minds and we do some enlightenment, the journey is more important in a way than some specific final destination.
Well, I think you have a very good attitude.
I'm glad to hear it.
So, what else can you tell us about your current activities?
Like, what is the game plan?
Can you reveal any of that?
Yeah, well, what we do is we have something called the advanced protocols.
And we like to believe that our protocols take distant CE5 kind of protocols.
And make them more approachable and closer by setting up some conditions that make closer contact more conducive.
And also establishing certain ground rules for passive universal communication.
Such as?
Well, many times in UFO history, you'll see a craft will be somewhere and people will be on the ground, maybe on a boat or the side of a river or something, and the craft will flash a light.
Or the people on the ground will flash a light, and the UFO will mimic it, and they start a little bit of communication, but then nothing happens after that.
There's a little pause, there's a wait, and sometimes there's interesting stories, but most of the time, you know, nothing really happens after that.
And we believe that we've kind of come up with what seems to be a super logical way of just respecting a new encounter with another creature.
And we've tried these things with like deer.
You know, I'm sure you've seen a video on YouTube of someone who's created a relationship with a wild animal, a wild deer, and that deer comes into their kitchen and eats like an apple because they've cultivated this relationship over time, this trust.
And we believe our protocols kind of do that.
And I could explain some of them to you.
One of them is really simple.
It's having an encroachment.
And we consider an encroachment like a tree line or a terrain change and to be back a hundred feet from that when we do our protocols because it allows for the possibility of them to have like a transitional terrain to encounter us from.
And we enact a bunch of mental meditations, harmonic breathing, and a bunch of other things to try and Bring these and request these events be closer.
So it's about ultimately it's about you know it sounds corny but you know it's about love and empathy and compassion and the universal oneness that lies beneath the surface.
One of the things we talk about a lot on our channel and kind of connects remote viewing To UFOs, to black holes, to near-death experiences, to all that stuff, is the subconscious.
And our group knows that UFOs have the ability to read people's conscious minds and subconscious minds.
There's case after case of, let's say, a jet fighter pilot breaking off from an encounter, or the UFO breaking off, and then the UFO being at their next waypoint.
Waiting at that location and so somehow the craft is able to read consciousness and so that's why we're bringing all this consciousness stuff to the table and Okay, so now just in terms of logistics you have a background in what you said entertainment I'm not sure whether you you know movies or television which genre whatever but Sorry More television.
I've led large groups of teams under big budgets, under tight schedules to successful outcomes.
So in a way, I'm kind of a good person for this Absolutely.
But there's another person in line if something happens to me that steps over and wears the next mask or whatever, you know, arts guy or the next person.
So how many on the team are going out to any given location?
Are you going out to a bunch of different ones?
Are you splitting the team?
How are you operating in that way?
And are...
And you have a camera team.
Are you, like, on call?
How are you sort of diagramming that?
We're selecting five UFO hotspots that we've been researching and we really feel good about.
And we'd like to, you know, even consult with you off-camera about maybe one or two of these locations.
Okay.
And...
Basically, the whole team goes to that location and will have at least a minimum of 10 meditators at the location.
They all have to be the same like-mindedness.
They don't have to go through our kind of protocols for a week and the science crew will be there.
It depends on each scientist, how many different scientists we're going to have there and how much equipment we're going to have.
Because we're self-funded, we're, you know, limited in some ways by budget, but Miraculously, all the pieces have been falling together for us, so we've got faith.
We're going to start in the Hudson Valley, and we'll go from there.
Did you start already?
Okay, but did you start already?
Well, we haven't started any of our events officially, no.
We start our first live stream event in about 35 days from now.
Okay, but I mean, have you tried your methods without recording?
Oh, yeah.
And we have videotape of different encounters and video of different crafts and different stuff.
And we have some real interesting data that we've accumulated already.
But we think in order to present that stuff early is very...
It's premature and it's better to do it under the controlled circumstances that we're trying to set up in order to have it have more of an impact because video is video.
I had a sighting two weeks ago.
I was talking with my love about wanting to see a light being turned up and looked to the left and boom I see a flash and there's this shifting moving Plasma sparkly mist thing moving through the sky and got the video camera out and it's MUFON case 91546.
So we have a track record of, you know, encounters.
So we feel confident about that.
Now, okay, but this is not, you're not going on mainstream TV. You're just doing this.
Are you filming it live through YouTube or how are you going live?
Yeah.
We're going to do it through YouTube and then we're also going to simulcast through other channels who want to carry.
If you want to carry it on the nights that we're doing it, you're welcome to carry the stream.
Anyone's welcome to pick it up and carry any portion of it for any portion of it.
It's all, you know, full transparency, you know, in terms of all that.
Very good.
Now, how many cameras are you going to have on scene?
Well, right now we have a variety.
We'd like to get a bunch more.
We don't have high-speed cameras, which we'd really like to have at the table, you know, because some of these events happen incredibly fast.
We have infrared cameras, which are really important because some of these craft utilize metamaterials that bend light around them and traditional light around them, but not infrared light.
So that's why oftentimes you'll have two cameras set up You've seen these videos, I'm sure, where you don't see it on the regular camera, but they show up clearly on the infrared cameras.
Sure, absolutely.
So we have some of that.
We want to get all-sky cameras, and there's also some really cool technology boxes through An associate of ours who's a technician, he's created this little sensor box that basically has a program in it that differentiates any movement in the sky.
So it automatically starts recording and doing some of the sensors.
But we have some of our basic stuff, like optical spectrometry, which allows us to tell what elements a distant encounter, a distant object, is made out of.
It's really incredible technology, but it's very simple.
You can tell what a star is made out of just by capturing the light.
And essentially, it kind of goes through a little prism and creates a rainbow.
And in this rainbow, there's these spectral lines that tell you what element is in that object that you captured the light from.
They've done this in Hostilin.
I don't know if you've heard about them in Hostilin.
They had a bunch of optical spectrometry and a bunch of sightings of these light phenomena and they found really cool stuff in it like scandium, which is a rare earth element.
So we're probably going to capture some interesting stuff.
Okay now Do you have a telescope?
Because, you know, John Walson, he'd be...
I don't know if he's part of your team, but John Walson has a telescope, and he lives in Britain, but it's gigantic.
I mean, it's...
And he specially engineered it, in essence, and I don't know how, but it links up with a video camera, or a computer, I guess, and somehow...
He has a YouTube channel and he shows close-ups of Mars and the moon, especially the moon.
He's quite well known for that.
But he's also caught these amazing craft near the sun and so on.
So for those of you who don't know who he is.
So he's like this guy who's already kind of gone down this rabbit hole.
Now he is stopped by the Queen of England.
And the British government from going public with the stuff he's really found, which is a lot more sophisticated than what he's put on Lyme, I know.
Wow.
And consequently, he has black helicopters over his house constantly.
He's had his eye damaged by one of them.
He's suing some intelligence agency or something for damaging his eye with a beam that I guess refracted off some lens or something or other.
And, you know, all sorts of stuff.
And he lives in a very sort of a certain part of England that's quite strategic, you might say, or close enough to very strategic areas, which are quite fascinating.
So are you teamed up with, let's say...
Robert Bigelow, because he's kind of like spearheaded a lot of this disclosure stuff, I guess.
Specifically, he tried this stuff at Skinwalker Ranch.
He brought a group of scientists and cameras and equipment and all that stuff.
But the phenomena did not want them to capture them.
And I think it's because of the consciousness factor.
The phenomena...
Could read their consciousness, could know that they were scientists and they were going to take this information and it would go private and probably turn someone into, you know, the next Mark Zuckerberg who'd only destroy the environment faster.
You know, I think these intelligences read the consciousness and they read the intent.
And that's why for our group, everyone who's on site has to be of the same intent.
They all have to be of the same, you know, goal of the biosphere.
If they don't share this kind of central goal, the visitors know that.
They can read consciousness.
It's a simple fact.
And you can't hide, you can't fake that stuff.
And so Bigelow doesn't spend a chance of getting the kind of stuff that we're getting.
Plus, they never try to bring consciousness.
We're getting, literally, meditators from around the world to focus on our locations.
And so we think that gives us two very different things from Bigelow.
All right, fair enough.
Now, what about John Lear?
Because John Lear also has a telescope.
In fact, John Leonard Wilson helped John Lear get his telescope working again.
And John Lear has quite a history in this sector.
Have you approached him?
No, but you know, we're open to learning from us.
So there's so many people And we want their help.
We want their assistance.
We want their advice.
We want everyone's positive thoughts and intent that we're guided well, that we're protected, that we stay on the path for the people.
Okay, so we will take advice from anyone.
We've gotten some really cool advice from cool people and just even off chance like Michio Kaku was saying how an advanced civilization could transmit their consciousness via laser light throughout the universe.
So that's one of our tests is looking for incoming laser light.
So there's real Theories that you can reverse engineer.
If you think they're time travelers, some of the visitors are time travelers.
There are some scientific tests that we reverse engineered to try and detect that.
Okay, well, what about...
I think I told you about him when I first talked to you.
Eamon Ansbrough, who is put together...
He's an astronomer in Ireland who put together a quantum mechanics kind of...
And he's associated with what used to be...
I think it's SETI or something.
But it's using the quantum field now.
And they're trying to send out...
They actually built this machine.
And they're trying to send...
You need to watch my video interviews with him.
I've had two now.
I've got an update on my channel and then the regular one in person.
But I know from my...
Secret contacts that he's not being allowed to actually make his machine work properly on purpose because he's being interfered with.
What he wants to do, however, is he doesn't want to just contact some ETs that are here in the local vicinity.
He wants to actually send a simultaneous quantum, I don't know, beam if the right isn't really the right word, but whatever.
I think it's more 360 or whatever you call that.
Out to all the universes out there.
He wants to sort of circumvent the secret space program in doing so.
He's not naive, actually.
He knows quite a bit.
But...
The word I have is that he's not being allowed to do so.
And the recent update I had was that they had some problem with their machine, even though they were set to go live in like a month's time, the first time I talked to him.
Anyway, so I don't know where they're at.
I mean, you can get in touch with him.
He has a team as well, and they have the same rap as you.
They want to have...
Only good people.
They have scientists.
He has quite a sophisticated technical team behind him.
He's also got creative people.
He's even got musical people.
That's great.
So maybe you guys should collaborate or something.
Absolutely.
Our whole message is join some disclosure effort.
Some people's disclosure effort.
Be part of the solution.
Don't just be a sofa critic and complain about society, complain how selfish people are, complain about the greediness, complain about this and complain about that.
You can help.
You can be involved with one of these efforts.
Be involved with some good path.
You know, you can't regret trying.
Sure.
All right.
Well, this is great.
Now, what else?
Let me see.
I'm thinking about...
Is there any other things that you are kind of involved in doing?
In other words, when you're filming, are you going to be filming?
Are all the people, because like right now you have a mask on, I appreciate that, but you say you might take it off during this broadcast.
But what about all the people?
Because if you're filming, are you going to film over their heads so that they, you know, aren't revealed who they are?
If you've got people on the ground...
Everyone should have the right to their own anonymity if they choose to have it or not.
But I'm asking, what is their story?
Have you figured that out yet?
As of now, we want everyone to be on camera open and overt on all the sites, on locations.
Everyone needs to be visible.
You need to see everyone's faces.
You need to have these people be witnesses and sign affidavits later and do all this stuff to try and bring credibility to These events that hopefully, you know, God willing and universe willing and subconscious willing and visitors willing and secret organizations willing, we will get something amazing, hopefully.
Okay, now have you tried to, you come from television, you know, like I said, we were going to do a show very similar to what you're talking about, but we're shut down.
Have you tried to approach Hollywood with your idea and get them to be involved and interested?
We're not trying to sneak in a documentary or sneak in a TV show backdoor.
This is strictly for the effort.
Someone else can do a documentary on it.
Someone else can do that stuff.
We're competent to do that kind of thing, but we don't want to torpedo ourselves by making it seem like we're doing this for some other.
That could muddy the waters and make people doubt our motives or doubt some of the evidence and stuff.
So we want to stay clear of that.
We want it to stand alone, everything to stand alone and be accessible to everybody.
All right.
And, you know, let me ask you a loaded question here.
Okay, that's all good and fine.
So are you associated with GaimTV?
And please say no.
No, I'm not associated with any of them.
Like one more, you know, bites the dust.
No, whatever.
But, okay, very good.
So...
It's, that's cool.
So, let's see.
So, you're going to be, are you going to be the face of your project?
You know, the one who, you know, I'm the face of Camelot.
Are you going to be the face of your project now that, you know, when you take your mask off, do you think it'll be you?
Or is there another person because you kind of are starting out as a spokesperson kind of person?
There's other people in the group who've already done videos.
Really?
You can go to Arch and see.
Oh, okay.
I didn't know that.
Right.
Right.
Archie guy comes on.
He's got some really cool masks since he's a creative director on the artistic side.
He does some really cool design features and has some cool videos.
One of our main producers uses his real name, Adam.
He has a big television history and he's going to make sure our cameras are good and all that stuff.
We had different people who had their own different levels of anonymity.
Some choose to be completely overt and don't care.
It doesn't need to be me.
It needs to be somebody doing this.
I think it's the group effort.
We like to consider it a grassroots people's disclosure.
That's what we like to think of ourselves, and we want to be true to that.
So it could be more than one person.
You're not the only face of your organization, is what you're saying.
Absolutely.
If someone takes me out, there's another torchbearer.
And there's another one after that.
We want another torchbearer after that.
We want an unlimited line.
You know, it's kind of like the V for Vendetta thing.
That's cool.
Who can wear the mask, you know?
Yeah, well, I always appreciate that philosophy.
So, let's see.
I have this chat room.
We don't have to keep you for too much longer.
I mean, you're kind of being a trooper, and I appreciate it.
Okay, very good.
Okay, we appreciate this.
Hello.
Nice to meet you in person.
Hi.
Absolutely.
I'm a real human being.
You can tell this is the mask from the channel.
I'll probably be wearing this again back on the channel, but I just want people to know the transparency aspect and the earnestness of this aspect.
And if I always wore the mask, there might be some sense of this guy works for, you know, Risk my own identity and everything.
So, you know, it is what it is.
But I will probably put it back on again after the show.
All right.
Well, fair enough.
I mean, a certain number of people will see the show.
And then, as you know, it's a crapshoot really out there.
And my main YouTube channel is still not allowing me to post this stuff on it.
So my largest audience has to learn to come to this new channel I'm doing.
So...
There's kind of a dropout in the number of people that are going to see this unless it really goes viral, which is kind of fun.
But we'll see what happens.
So kudos to you.
Very, very great to see you and have you come forward here on the show.
On air really quickly.
You know, the other day you spent some extra time with me and spoke with me about, you know, just what we're doing.
And you were just kind of gave me some really good, earnest advice.
And as You know, just person, I just really appreciated it.
And I just, you know, I think it's nice for the people to know that you really care about this stuff, you know?
And so, you know, for whatever that's worth, I just thought that they should know that, you know, how decent of a human you are as well, you know, and your concerns for this.
This isn't fake.
This isn't for TV. This isn't for fame for you.
Obviously, it's about, it's a passion issue.
You know, you're an experiencer, you know, so.
Yeah, true.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Vote of confidence.
And I don't want to reveal anything personal about you other than to say that you had a very, very cool mother.
Isn't that right?
We don't have to reveal who she is or any of that.
But, you know, I have to say that you did have a very cool mother.
So that's always a good sign.
I'm from a social, it's blood, you know, it's in my blood.
And, you know, part of me is very reticent to come forward because, you know, Tom DeLonge's personality becomes a side issue and his entertainment background becomes a side issue.
Who I am shouldn't become an issue.
It's the next person that's going to carry the mantle.
Hopefully, no one can stop us.
I don't think anyone can stop us.
I'd like to think that because we have a wind at our back, the visitors are helping.
everything's helping us right now and we're just moving forward things keep dropping on our lap we got an entire science team dropped on our lap we you know the synchronicities are amazing so we just hope that you know the listeners and the viewers can send their positive consciousness to us to keep us on track and can help you know they can be part of the solution you know all right and they're us joining some effort you know of disclosure Well, that's very cool.
Now, what I'm going to do is just basically, if anyone has a question for our guest, and, you know, we have a face, but we don't have a name.
You can have a false name, if you like, whatever you like.
It can still be AP. AP for now, and...
So, would anyone like to ask him a question?
Because I'm going to scan the chat to see if there's any.
Put your questions in all caps.
At the very least, put a question mark after your question.
And I'll see if I can ask him whatever you happen to ask.
So, you know, we have a few moments here to, this is your opportunity.
You want to ask him anything.
And what about, I imagine what people are going to ask eventually is, do you have an email address where people can write to you if they want to join your team or do anything to assist you?
Absolutely.
It's alienprotocols at gmail.com.
And if they have any resources, we'd love to hear about it.
If they have any special skills they'd like to contribute, if they have a story they want to tell us that they think the data in it is important to the subject matter, anything.
Or if they need help, you know, if someone wants prayer circles, we have people who are gifted that will think about them and keep them in our thoughts and, you know, We all need each other.
So, you know, if you have a need, we have needs.
And if you have needs, maybe we can help each other out.
Okay.
So Alien Protocols with an S at the end, right?
Yes.
At gmail.com.
Is that correct?
Correct.
Okay.
So someone wants to know, what are your results so far?
Yes.
You kind of haven't done your official one live, but you said you have been doing some group sightings that you've recorded, right?
Yes, we've got some really very cool video, very compelling video of different types of encounters, and after we get...
The big data and the big video that we want to capture will release all that stuff.
But to do it early might torpedo us by releasing more questionable videos as opposed to the stuff that's going to have multiple backups and simultaneous scientific data acquired.
Okay.
Now, you say when you go out and you do your thing in these five sort of hot spots that you've chosen, you're going to actually film it live.
Is that correct?
Yeah, it's going to be live-streamed all night.
Our live streams will go all night.
We'll have all-sky cameras and infrared.
Unfortunately, of course, YouTube will only be accessible, you know, in that type of camera.
But, you know, of course, after the fact of each event and each night, we'll release everything to the public.
Okay.
We're hoping if anyone, you know, we have a couple of fears and we want to throw this out there.
One of our fears is that the night of a great event that we could get our live stream knocked down.
So if anyone has any innovative ways to like piggyback our live stream or to sustain our live stream or any ways that might help us, please bring those ideas to the table.
We would love that.
Okay.
All right.
So very good.
Uh, Now somebody wants to know when you think disclosure of the undeniable truth will happen.
Well I think they've kind of done that to a certain degree with some of the videos and stuff and it all depends on your own discernment but I don't think the government's ever going to come out and say you know undeniably extraterrestrials are here.
I think they're going to let it kind of be a public thing.
I think the government Seven years to slowly release more information, more videos to the stars and more Defense Department documents.
You know, George Knapp just had the 13 pages that were really fascinating the other day.
But, you know, more and more.
I think this summer is going to be really interesting.
June, July, August.
We're going to get some really cool encounters and more videos and everything this summer is going to be really interesting.
Okay.
It's a good time to be able...
Right.
All right.
Very interesting.
So let's see.
Do you think, this person is asking, do you think the ETs are getting impatient with being allowed to be in the open with us?
No, I think they're a little bit impatient with us in general, with how we destroy the environment.
I think their big concern is The reason why is, pound for pound, the most precious thing in the universe is not gold or diamonds, it's life.
And they value data over almost everything else, I believe.
Different species value data over everything else.
It's the most valuable thing you can get.
And life forms are one of the densest forms of data.
There's so much different types of information held in different life forms.
And so I think they prize and cherish life forms and You know, that's why they've made their presence known at nuclear sites and nuclear silos, too.
And they're constantly leaving messages about the environment.
It's always about the environment.
And I think they cherish all forms of life.
So, you know, that kind of semi-answers the question.
All right.
Let's see.
Somebody wants to know, what is your general opinion on Tom DeLonge's To The Stars Academy?
Um, I say, you know, God bless him.
You know, I appreciate the fact that he's done it.
I think the whole entertainment wing is ridiculous and very self-indulgent and, you know, I would rather they have such an incredible team of ex-government people that they should be focusing on that hard data stuff and working on the engineering the craft.
I think the television aspect of it, they're biting off so much.
They want to have the most amazing television.
They want to create a spaceship and they want to spearhead the release of all this stuff.
I'm like, don't try and be a jack of all trades.
Why don't you be a master of one or two of those?
Build the craft and do the disclosure stuff.
Leave the entertainment stuff to other people.
That's just my opinion.
I don't think they've been taken over by the government.
I think they're really independent.
They're being manipulated, of course, but it's an earnest effort, I believe.
Okay, someone seems to think it's only greys and reptilians that want to contact us.
I guess they've never met Simon Parks or heard from him among many of my other witnesses but nonetheless do you want to address that comment?
Well there's a lot of different races obviously just like our rainforests here on this planet are filled with many different diverse incredible species so is our universe and I don't put a number on how many have visited us but I believe it's First generation species, though.
And what I mean by that is there's first generation and second generation, meaning the origin species and really advanced civilizations can actually create other species.
And we believe, most of the people in our group, that greys are manufactured second generation life forms that are created to travel space and to do this, you know, information gathering mission.
So that's, you know, our belief system.
Okay.
Let's see.
Just looking for other questions that might be in here.
Yeah, nothing actually there at the moment.
So, well, I think, you know, you've kind of covered quite a bit of stuff.
Is there anything you want to say about your effort?
Maybe a date?
Or is there a date where people can say, tune in to Alien Protocols at such and such a date?
It's about 35 days from now.
We don't want to give away the exact date.
We want to make it a little more difficult for those who might want to capture our date of the night of if we're successful.
We want to be at least a little springy on our toes and make them have to work a little bit more.
But if you want to be involved, email us.
But it's going to be around 35 days as our first event.
Okay.
We'll definitely let you know.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, we'll get the word out for you.
And it sounds like fun.
So, you know, why not?
So, at any rate, I'll be happy to recommend further crew members out of my long list of contactees, etc.
Just in case you need some other hands on deck, so to speak, and during the actual event, etc.
And So thank you for being on the show.
It's been lots of fun to talk to you.
And I think, you know, it's nice to see you have some good people behind you, some people that perhaps are well-intentioned.
And we'll see what happens with this effort.
Thank you so much, Carrie.
Wish us luck and keep us in your positive.
Good luck.
Absolutely.
And I'm sure my audience does as well.
So we're all in this together.
So we'll find out.
What happens?
That's my guest, AP, and he revealed himself physically on camera.
So that was very gutsy of him.
Kudos to him for doing that.
And I hope you can appreciate, you know, people do put their lives on the line for this sort of sector, for this disclosure and what's going on.
And a lot of people are being pushed and pulled many ways.
They've got families, they've got children, they've got other responsibilities besides disclosure.
And this may be one way to get a grassroots sort of thing going.
You know, back in the time of Atlantis was the last time that aliens and humans walked on Earth together in an open fashion, it is said.
I think they were still here around the time of Egypt, certainly, but maybe not quite as well known, maybe not quite known to the masses as openly as the time of Atlantis.
So this is why scientists, I'm told, are going down to study the things that are happening down in Egypt.
Antarctica, because the snow is melting, the ice is melting, and a lot's being revealed, and a lot is going to be revealed, apparently, and they can't stop it.
So disclosure, if you want to call it that, or just revealing more truth about the reality of what it means to be human here on a planet, here in the galaxy, at this time, is coming forward, and all of us are part of that effort, regardless of whether we even know it or not.
So, thanks everyone for being here tonight.
Tomorrow night I'm going to have Walter Bosley on the show.
He's an X-A-F-O-S-I agent and also I think he had some doings to do with the FBI at one point in his career.
I've interviewed him before.
He's an author and an investigator of occult mysteries and he's always a lot of fun to talk to.
Really fascinating guy and wonderful writer.
I've read a few of his books, really enjoyed them.
So he'll be on my show tomorrow night at 7 p.m.
And like I say, pass the word around.
Please subscribe to this channel.
The more people that subscribe come over from my other channel where they're trying to block me from broadcasting, etc., etc.
Luckily, these strikes on YouTube that were against James Fetzer and Ole Domogard...
Are local to a channel, not to a person.
So, so far, that's the status on YouTube, so we can get by with this channel, and that's why we can live broadcast here, at least as long as we can kind of get beneath the eye of the web bot artificial intelligence before it targets us again.
So, please do help out and support Project Camelot, help support the Project Alien Protocols, and what he's doing sounds like a lot of fun, and Fairly worthwhile.
And so, what can I say?
The truth is out there and in all of us.
Take care and have a great night.
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