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April 26, 2018 - Project Camelot
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DIVINIA WATER AN UPDATE WITH KIERSTEN AND STEVE SEDLMAYR
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Hi, everyone. everyone.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I am here today with Steve and Kirsten Settlemyer, and they are actually really fantastic people.
And they've got this amazing water called Divinia Water.
And I do have a link on my website and it can go to their website as well as their Facebook for an explanation about the water.
But we can also talk to them and get more detail.
So I have a short bio for Steve on my website and I'm also going to ask both of them to introduce themselves And to give us an update on what's going on with Divinia.
So, hold on one second, and I'll put them on the screen.
Hi there, and go ahead and introduce yourselves, please, and give yourselves a short bio.
My name is Stephen Sotomayor, and I'm the CEO and founder, co-founder of Divinia Water.
I'm a physicist, scientist, have been working in I'm 15, 16 years old.
Youngest ever to get a NIOSH No Science Foundation grant from the government.
I went to work for Martin Marietta in theoretical mathematics and spaceflight mechanics.
I'm one of the inventors or co-inventors or grandfathers of the flat-screen TVs.
So I've been doing science for quite a few years.
My daughter, Kirsten.
Hi, I'm Kirsten Selmar Landers.
Steven Sautter, also co-founder of Divinia Water, attended Loyola Marymount University for entrepreneurship, and I work in Tangent with Steven for developing our products, marketing, interfacing with customers, and helping disseminate the word and spread the word on Divinia Water and what we do and why it's so important.
Okay, great.
Now, if you, Steve, would describe the water, why it's different than other water, you know, in a fairly succinct way.
We've had other interviews with you, but maybe there's even some changes in the way you're doing things.
So if you want to just kind of launch into all of that.
Yes, we are producing water, and I say produce, because we take normal water, tap water, well water, Whatever the source of the water is.
And we purify it through several stages of purification, 17.
Then we send it through a processor where the processor actually makes molecular changes to the OH stretch bond.
We actually rearrange some of the molecular bonding between the hydrogen and the oxygen and the spins of the bonds and the length of the bonds.
So that it has a very purified, pure water that's the purest on the face of the Earth, and it also has extremely high energy.
Now, it also has different attributes to it.
It's deuterium-depleted water.
It is a water that is described as the easy water or easy zone water or cellular water.
And so instead of just having one aspect to it, there are several aspects to this water that you don't get with any other waters.
Some of the waters that are being compared to it now are hydrogen waters.
The hydrogen waters, of course, are not purified waters.
They have extra hydrogen put in it.
However, this water now, if you look at the hydrogen-oxygen bond, has much more bioavailable hydrogen than the hydrogen waters do.
It also has much more oxygen in it.
It's 102% saturated oxygen.
And because the oxygen is so readily available in the body itself that it allows much more and stronger chemical reactions in the body.
Excellent.
So what is going on with Davinia lately?
You know, you've been out there for a few years now and I use the water and it's fabulous.
And I wish more people would be aware of it.
I think initially there was some obstacles just in terms of shipping and various ways of bottling, etc.
So what's your status now with all of that?
We've moved into a new facility, I believe, since we talked to you.
We're in about a 17,000 square foot facility right now.
And we've added several new processors.
And within the next two months, we'll actually be introducing and using a commercial bottling line that will allow us to produce 6,400 bottles per day.
This line, of course, is built to our specifications.
Because we don't use any plastic in our processes, so everything had to be stainless steel and it had to be a high grade, actually even above food grade quality stainless steel, so that it's a very special built line just for our water.
That is going to allow us to introduce a lot more of the water to the public.
We also have upped our shipments a lot since then.
We're now distributing in Hawaii.
We're starting to ship pellets to Hawaii.
I guess when the water gets over there, it lasts about four hours when we ship over there before it's gone, dispersed.
And so we're going to look at producing a plant in Hawaii so that the Hawaiian people have pure water.
They have quite a Impure water at this particular point Surrounded by the oceans of course and they have salt water and of course the Fukushima accident and all the pollution that's gone on over the years the actual Natives there the indigenous Hawaiians are very Worried about their water sources and water is a very sacred Material
to them and So they have noticed the water and they have grasped it with open arms.
And we'll be talking to the Senate over there and also to the indigenous ruling class over there.
And we'll probably be building a plant pretty soon.
Wonderful.
That's great.
So we're also looking at Raising some funds.
We have had some private investors that have helped us along.
Now we'll be going public.
We will be doing what's called a Reg A, or I mean a Reg CF crowdfunding, and we'll be announcing that within a couple weeks now, where anybody will be able to invest in our company at this particular point.
They'll be able to invest, you know, with the minimum is, which is probably five to ten dollars, All the way up to whatever they want to invest.
So that's going to be open to the public.
So people will now be able to enjoy the growth of this company also.
That's wonderful.
Now, you had said, I believe, Steve, that you said that You had some health issues and you'd been using the water for those health issues.
Do you want to talk about what you came across for yourself?
And I know that we did a A very long interview with, I think it was Ralph Stanton?
Yes.
And his wife.
And it was really an excellent interview.
But can you talk about what your experience is lately in terms of health and for yourself?
Well, even for myself, several years ago, as you know, Idaho can get rather chilly here.
And it was in one of the cold spells that we had where it was 40 below That I went out to help a neighbor with his truck and I was in a shirt like this.
It was actually a short sleeves shirt.
And I'd worked on the engine with him for about a half hour, then walked back into my house, which is you're not supposed to walk into a warm enclosure after you've been out in 40 below weather.
And I did and it got some ice and the ice penetrated.
My lungs went actually to my heart and it actually snipped one of the exterior arteries on the heart because it froze and then it expanded and broke the vessel.
So I walked around about three days thinking I just had a little bit of gas or something or heartburn and so I finally decided it wasn't getting better so I went to the hospital And when I went to the hospital, the nurse, I told him I thought I had some heart problems.
And the nurse said, no, you're walking.
You're not slurring your words.
You're fine.
He said, we'll get to you when you can.
I said, no, I really think I have a heart problem.
You ought to get me here.
And so after wrangling with him for about 10 minutes, they took me into the emergency room and did tests on me and said, there's nothing wrong with you.
And all your enzymes are fine.
You're breathing okay.
You probably do have a little bit of gas or heartburn or something.
And so they said, well, there's one other test we want to run before we release you.
And so they did an EKG on me, and the nurse took one look at it and ran out of the room.
And the doctor come running in about two minutes later and said, you've got a broken artery on your heart.
He said, how long have you had this?
I said, about three, four days.
You know, he says, that's incredible.
Took me up to the emergency operating room and put a stent in my heart.
And when he did, before they did that, they took a fiber optic camera and went in through my groin up to the heart and took a look at the rupture.
And he looked at it and said, are you an alien or something?
You have the weirdest blood I've ever seen.
He said, you know, all the macrophages, all the white blood cells will actually gather around the rupture and try to seal it off.
Then about three or four seconds later, they all disperse.
And he said, you can't blood clot.
You aren't blood clotting.
It's not allowing you to die.
We've had this now reported by a couple other people, the same type of exactly the same thing.
And so they went in and put a stand in my heart.
So it personally has helped me quite a bit.
And off of that, we've actually had someone just a couple weeks ago report to us that this person is a naturopathic doctor.
She's been supervising a patient of hers.
Over the last few months making sure this patient has been drinking Davinia water and she reported to us just a few weeks ago that this patient has now been removed off of the heart transplant list and she attributes the majority of that to Davinia.
We're also starting to work with some premier doctors, cardiologists and those that study the heart because they're growing more and more fascinated and actually more and more sure that water, easy water like Davinia It really helps the heart and the cardiovascular system.
Incredible.
Yeah.
Wonderful.
And Carrie, in light of that, we have now signed an arrangement with a hospital called NUNM. Natural...
It's the National University of Natural Medicine and it's the oldest natural medicine university in North America.
They're located in Portland, Oregon.
And they are doing a clinical study on our water now.
Excellent.
So that we will be the first FDA approved water with clinical backing behind it that shows what this does.
They're going to study the first Studies are going to be on kidneys and livers because of the amount of people that we've had good results on returning back to normal health with it.
And so they are actually studying this now in a formal FDA-approved clinical trial.
Right.
Now, one thing that might help people just in terms of this interview, for those that haven't seen my other interviews with you, I know that you have said and talked about how other water isn't really what it's sort of cracked up to be.
And everyone uses bottled water.
So it's important for people to understand that this water Is not only far beyond what you can normally buy, but also that it has these healing properties.
So maybe you could talk a little bit about that.
And either one, you know, Steve or, you know, Kirsten, whichever.
I'll talk a little bit about the state of bottled water for a second.
As you probably know, the WHO organization, World Health Organization, and other people have taken a look at Water in plastic bottles.
And they found out that all water that's stored in plastic have plastic particles in it.
Some of them up to over a thousand particles per thousand or per billion.
Parts per billion.
So that when you drink water out of a plastic bottle, you are getting plastic.
Period.
You're also getting the plastic chemicals out of it.
Plus everything else that hasn't been cleaned out of it.
It might be endocrine disruptors which can cause breast cancers or prostate cancers or any of the other type of things like that.
That's why we store our water in glass because it's such a pure, clean water substance and also because of the properties that it has and we don't want it interacting with anything else.
We want to be able to supply you the purest water that there is.
The other thing, I was just reading an article before you came on, that they're now talking about all the lakes now going acidic again.
If you remember acidic rain that we had years back and what it did to the ecosystem, but now with all the carbon dioxide that's being spewed in the air and the problems with it, carbon dioxide turns water When it's subjected to open air acidic.
And now they're worried about the lakes turning acidic again.
They are.
And now the ocean is starting to turn acidic too.
But now we have problems with all the water, the source of the water now being acidic.
The other thing is that our water is unbuffered.
What that means is that it has a pH that's neutral, 7.0.
When you drink it, it can go one way or another.
It can go to either acidic or it can go to alkaline, depending upon what your body wants it to.
Other waters that are either acidic or alkaline are buffered waters, and when you drink them, it forces your body into that state so that if you drink alkaline water just before you eat a meal or with a meal or Anytime around the mill.
That is going to force your stomach to go alkaline.
And your stomach wants to be acidic.
It wants to be somewhere around 2.5 to 3.2.
And it needs that for the enzymes to work.
The enzymes that actually break down the proteins and the peptides and the amino acids work in a very narrow range.
When your stomach is outside of that range, let's say it's a 4 or a 5 or it's even an 8, when it goes to those states, those enzymes don't work anymore, and so you don't break down your food properly.
Wow.
All your food, of course, is protein, basically, and you have to break the proteins down into their original matter, which is peptides and amino acids.
And then that's what actually is digested in your stomach and enters into the bloodstream.
If you have leaky gut or other digestive problems and a protein enters into the bloodstream, that's when your body sees that as a poison and it attacks it.
And that then triggers the autoimmune system.
And I just saw a statistic the other day.
You now think 110 Americans now have autoimmune disease of one sort over another.
110 million?
110 million.
So one third of the population.
And going off of your question from the start, no one else can purify this water to this level of efficacy.
We're the only holders of this technology.
It's patented and it's held by the company.
And the water itself, in fact, is so unique that it's patent pending under the U.S. Patent Office.
I've had people inquire and say, you know, well, it says it's double distilled.
And technically by FDA, yes, it's a double distilled water.
But if it was just distilled water, then it wouldn't be patent pending.
U.S. Patent Office would have laughed us out.
for even attempting to patent such a thing.
But we have a lot of science and a lot of anecdotal evidence, empirical evidence behind it that supports that this water is vastly different.
And we continue to pursue that where I don't think a lot of other bottled water brands alone are even doing a fifth of the effort we're putting in to research and development.
We just stand alone in that department, if you ask me, It's really important to us that we actually support this water with true scientific research, independent laboratory studies that we aren't paying for.
And outside of that, it's just very important to us that we have the support of the scientific community because then it builds credibility for the company and people trust in what we're surveying.
There's a lot of snake oil salesmen There's a lot of people promising something along the same lines, and they can't provide the same sort of evidence that we can.
So it's just really important for us that we keep moving forward in pursuit of scientific study and understanding not only of our water, but even just water in general.
It's important for us and for future generations to understand really the importance of water and actually how complex water can be.
I don't think we quite understand just how incredible the element of water is.
I agree with you.
I know that physicist Richard Alan Miller says there's actually, well, there's more than 15 states of water, and he's someone who actually is in a position to know.
He worked in black projects for most of his life, and I know that you, Steve, also have worked in, I don't know if you'd call them black projects or secret projects, but But I know that you've worked in some very sophisticated scientific arenas before you got into the water, creating the water.
So maybe you want to talk a little bit about that, just because, you know, we haven't talked about that for quite some time.
Yeah, and I did do some black ops when I was much younger.
When I was young, when I was 17, 18, I started working for the government.
Actually, I was 16.
And I went to work in theoretical mathematics and space flight mechanics.
And then I went to work in propulsion systems, where we analyzed propulsion systems and we analyzed what the Soviets were able to do in other countries.
Then I went into a division of Martin Mary called Martron Systems, where we developed black boxes for airplanes and that sort of thing.
Then I went into some fiber optic cabling and developed the first large screen, 1 million pixel high density, high definition instant replay.
And that involved in the flat screen TVs at that point.
I also worked on the Mars lander.
We were the first one to put a lander on Mars and I have developed some of that technology when I was young, very young.
So I've worked on quite a few projects.
I do some of the lawsuits on the machine recognition so that the barcode system and machine recognition of objects, that sort of thing.
And Dad, I retired actually and that's when my wife was drinking water and I decided that the water she was drinking wasn't good enough for her and we could actually come up with our own system and that's why I invented this system.
Yeah, that is, you know, it's such an amazing story and anyone listening to this, I want to encourage them to watch my other interviews with both of you and also the one with Ralph Stanton.
There's also a relationship between your water and Jerry Pollack, isn't that right?
Yes, we've had this water studied at several universities.
One of the first universities I took it to was Arizona State University, where I met Dr.
Russ and Roy.
Dr.
Russ and Roy is the only scientist that's had a standing ovation in front of Congress for his technology.
He also was one of the main negotiators of the SALT treatment, so the disarmament treatment, treaty, I'm sorry.
And so he was also one of the founders of material sciences in the United States and across the world.
He belonged to 17, I believe.
It was either 12 or 17 of the National Boards of Sciences, like United States, Russia, India, Russia, China, Malaysia, you know, Great Britain, France.
So he advised all these people on their science.
He also was a youngster when Gandhi was running India.
And his father and Gandhi were very close friends.
And Rustam used to sit on the lap of Gandhi, reciting poems at dinner.
So he was quite a guy.
So he was a cohort of mine at Penn State University, where we first discovered the molecular change in the atomic structure of water.
And then he also referred me to Dr.
Jerry Pollack at the University of Washington.
And Jerry had been studying water and mussels and how mussels allocated water and how they worked with water and made some discoveries about this easy water or exclusion zone water and has published several books on it and at that time I then took my water to Jerry and Jerry had done some testing of the water and when he tested the water he found out it was The clearest indication
that he had to prove his theory of the EZ zone.
And so we worked with him and he has an international conference on the biology, physics and chemistry of water that he puts on every year.
Currently it's in Bulgaria.
And we went to Bulgaria this last year again.
And there, there was a study done on our water By some scientists out of India that used it to raise plants.
And then they made a drink with it.
And when they made a drink with it, they found out it was the most hydrating drink they had ever made with it.
It also had the highest protein structure, the highest taste.
Yeah, the participants that were part of the study Had relayed that the water had made their beverage, their novel beverage, taste better, look better.
And so the scientists had then gone ahead and taken some vitals and had discovered that the participants that were drinking the beverage that glued with Davinia water had better osmality of the blood, more saliva, and actually less urine because they had more Hydration uptake to their cells and into their body than deionized water.
So they actually pitted Davinia water against deionized water for this particular study.
And I found that Davinia had outperformed the deionized water in this study.
That's excellent.
Now, there's also...
In terms of...
Other people's water and yours, you're exclusively using glass bottles.
And I know some people find that to be problematic, but actually it's very important to have your water in glass.
And so maybe you could talk a little bit about why...
I know you mentioned the plastic problem, and I think that's getting to be big mainstream news out there about the plastic issue.
But if you could talk about why glass and how important that is as part of the whole preserving the integrity of the water that you make.
Our water actually is a very aggressive water.
Reactive.
Reactive?
Yeah.
And so when you put it in plastic, eventually it will actually even dissolve the plastic, which is good for the human body because it tends to detox the human body and chelates the human body also, removes heavy metals, plastics, everything else out of the human body while restoring it back to health again.
So one of the things that we decided early on Then it would be put in plastic because of the purity of it and because it maintains the glass, I'm sorry, will maintain the purity of the water.
Also, glass is a very eco-friendly container.
A lot of people that we've talked to in cities now are considering doing glass recycling for several reasons.
One, when you grind glass up, it returns back to sand again.
You throw it in the ocean, it's going to go to the bottom of the ocean.
It's going to roll around, get broken up, and go back to sand again.
So they're saying right now by the year, I think it was 2030, that there is going to be more plastic in the oceans than the weight of humanity on the face of the earth.
So by weight, there will be more weight of plastic in the oceans than Than the weight of 8 billion people, if you can imagine that.
And plastic doesn't, I think what you're also saying, it doesn't degrade over time or it takes a really long time?
Yeah.
It can take up to a thousand to 5,000 years to degrade.
And unfortunately, because it's made of petrochemicals, when it does degrade, it grows back to petrochemicals.
So you might as well pour gas in the ocean again.
Incredible.
Yeah, it's just so amazing that they, you know, that people started this whole process of creating plastic with such a lack of, you know, environmentally consciousness that, you know, it's almost like creating a nuclear, you know, a radiation or something that's going to last.
Again, polluting the environment in a permanent kind of a way.
Yeah.
You know, given kind has been using glass now for several thousand years, all the way back to way, you know, before Rome was even established.
They were manufacturing glass, porcelain, that sort of stuff.
So glass doesn't harm the environment.
It breaks up.
Saudi Arabia has a great plan for glass.
They reprocess all their glass.
They make beaches out of it again.
Excellent.
That's one of the things we're going to talk to the Hawaiians about is doing a glass recycling program.
So they have a storehouse of sand.
So when the storms hit, what they can do is rebuild their beaches again.
Mm-hmm.
Well, being in California, right, we know how important that is.
A lot of the beaches are being eroded away by the ocean, and I guess we will have rising ocean levels, or maybe we do already, which is partly responsible for that, because I can tell you that, you know, I know certain beaches in my area that have basically kind of disappeared, more or less.
So this is something worth looking at.
The climate change is destroying the beaches right now and to rebuild them is very expensive and it's very hard.
Yet we have the solution right at our fingertips.
Right.
There you go.
So not only are you, when you're drinking the Davinia water, you're obviously putting in great stuff for your body, but you're also preserving the environment in a more ecologically friendly way.
So I'm sure that's good information for people to have.
I hope that you're making that clear on your website.
I don't know if you are.
I know there's a lot to talk about when you're talking about this water.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's important.
It's just important for us to offer something that's not only good for humans, but like you say, for the planet.
And we took a lot of time to find not only great glass bottles that you can take with you wherever you go, but that was American made.
And a bonus that the bottles themselves are already made out of recycled glass as well.
So it's American-made, so we trust where it's coming from, and it's already part of that recycling process, having been made of 35% recycled glass from the get-go.
And so we really do encourage anyone who buys Davinia to either reuse or recycle the bottle and find local recycling programs, participate in those, because in the coming years, that's a program we really want to participate in.
In fact, here in Idaho Falls, there isn't a glass recycling program, so We're speaking with the mayor and developing a program and finding solutions for recycling glass, even in our own community.
And as we kind of get our tentacles out, so to speak, we want to keep those programs going and emphasize those programs among our customers because it's so important to us that we reduce our carbon footprint and that our model is sustainable for future generations.
Absolutely.
You know, the old NHLB help you.
That's exactly what happens.
You know, you buy a product that's in glass and you use it locally, whether it's to put sand on the road for snow or you rebuild beaches or use it for concrete or whatever you do.
It's actually saving yourself in the long run.
You're not polluting.
Plus, it's starting to reduce the cost of the other products.
So it's a win-win situation for everybody.
What about the notion of, I don't know what you call it, but you know how they can deliver, they can use glass bottles and they use porcelain, and then you can have this sort of dispenser delivered to your door.
Have you...
Looked into having truck delivery of that kind of delivery for, you know, uh, having a dispenser in your house or like the office or whatever it is.
Cause it would be, you know, much, um, easier if you could also have that.
Um, have you guys looked into that?
We do that.
Yeah, we do that here locally in Idaho.
Um, and so we have customers that actually come by and are able to pick up third glass car boys are used mainly in, um, Breweries for beer brewing because it's important for breweries to use high-quality materials.
So we've been kind of siphoning off of brewing companies, you know, using websites and suppliers for breweries for our benefit.
But they're called Carboys.
They're big three-gallon jugs, essentially, and people locally come and pick those up.
And again, as we start setting up little plants across the country, That's something that we definitely want to implement where people can come and refill and take home to dispense at home.
Because we understand the benefit of reducing carbon footprint in a lot of ways through that route.
But that way, too, people have access to more water with less material, which is a great thing.
But yeah, for shipping across the country, it's just immensely expensive and difficult for Controlling the handling and things like that because we get empty ones shipped up to us and they break quite a bit.
So I can't imagine how difficult that would be to send across the country to a customer, a paying customer, that would be kind of a headache.
So at this point in time, we are sticking with the glass bottles, but we do hope to offer as well larger size bottles, you know, 32 ounce bottles or 64 ounce bottles so that people can have Okay, well, what about the notion?
I mean, I don't know that much about this sort of thing, but I don't know.
Have you looked into glass?
You know, glass is very heavy.
And I also wonder if glass can be dealt with, like, in different ways.
Because are there people trying to create a lighter weight glass that is more durable kind of thing?
That, you know, without destroying the integrity of glass.
Have you thought about any of that?
Yes, there are.
We're being done in that.
But one of the things that we're doing is...
Kirsten touched on briefly.
Part of the reasons why we're raising more money is because we're going to be setting plants up all across the United States in most of the major cities.
That would be great.
That way we don't have to ship also.
That also reduces the carbon footprint is because right now, as you know, any of the major bottling companies, whether it's beer, wine, whoever, Makes a product locally and ships it clear across the United States.
Whereas in Fiji water, they make it on an island or bottle on the island.
So they have to ship the plastic there.
They fill it up.
Then they turn around, ship it back on the boat again and distribute it in the United States all across the United States.
So the carbon footprint is terrible for a product like that.
One of the things that we're going to do As we will set plants up in the major cities, use the local water there, and do distribution from those local points.
And we're getting closer and closer to that.
That's why we're speaking to Hawaii, so that there won't be any shipping of the product clear across the United States to Hawaii.
They will actually make the product there.
And what's nice about that is that we only use their local resources We use their local people.
We only do local distribution.
And therefore, we're cutting down on resources that are needed and also the carbon footprint to ship those resources.
When we do that, as Kirsten said, we do have these carboys here, these three young carboys, and a crock with a ceramic vessel where a lot of our local customers will come in They will refill the vessels up with water, take them back home and put them on the crock again and use them for a week or two.
And so we're starting to get quite a walk-in of people now that walk in and refill their vessels again.
And that way that glass is reused time after time after time again.
Right, that's great.
So, it would be wonderful for you to have plants across the United States.
I know you have actually, in Europe, you have, I think you have customers all over the world, don't you?
Yes, we do, all over the world.
We actually have customers in Singapore and China also.
Australia, New Zealand, Saudi Arabia, South America, Canada, all over the world.
So, Because of our financial condition right now, we have to ship to them, but eventually we'll be setting up shops for them also.
Yeah, because the last thing we want to do is take away the resource of water from people.
You know, as some of your listeners or viewers might know, Nestle is infamous for going into a community and Essentially stealing the water from that community and then they're left without that resource years later and that's just not what we want to do.
We want to take from existing water resources.
We know that we can create or purify the same high quality water no matter where it is.
We've done that time and time again whether it's salt water, spring water, tap water, municipal water.
It doesn't matter.
We will We will be able to offer communities the same high-quality water, the same functional, healthful water.
And so in that token, there's no need to send it from one place all around the world.
We can keep the resources local.
And in fact, here we tell our mayor that we actually return the water that we don't use back into the city cleaner than how we got it.
So we're actually in some ways even recycling the water and purifying the water for our community.
Just through our patented process here.
So it's just so important for us, again, that we're closing the loop and just making sure this is sustainable so that it can just be used continually and it makes sense for decades, you know, future decades to use and benefit from.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Well, now, is there anything else that we haven't touched on that you guys would like to...
To talk about, basically try and take, you know, what this is is an update.
And I want to make sure that we cover any topics that I haven't thought of that you guys might be involved in.
So go right ahead if you have anything more about this.
What's interesting is we now have doctors using this water for their patients, actually prescribing it to their patients, the naturopaths.
They will actually tell their patients with something that's not life-threatening that go ahead and stop your medications or cut back on them.
Start drinking the water.
Just monitor your blood and see what happens.
And we've had major good results with that at this point.
So the doctors are starting to grasp this now.
And the naturopaths.
And it's nice to get stories from doctors and patients about, you know, this person was, one of them was a young man.
His belly rubin was quite high.
He was the father, is the father of three or four children.
Very young.
He's 28.
29 or so.
29 or so.
Yeah.
And he was looking at some life-threatening problems with his liver, not being able to work.
And all of a sudden, he's healthy again.
And, you know, it's nice to see that we're actually returning fathers and mothers in good health back to their families where they can enjoy life again.
That's one of the great joys we get out of this.
Is that people relate their stories to us.
And the majority of them would like to extend their lives or be able to enjoy their lives with their families.
And this is allowing that to happen.
And doctors now are jumping on board with this and starting to prescribe it.
Wonderful.
That's excellent.
I don't blame them.
You know, I think that I'm certainly aware when I'm drinking it as opposed to, you know, I travel a lot and obviously can't take it with me, unfortunately.
But I always notice the difference and I'm very sensitive now to when I'm drinking water and just how bad the quality really is out there.
It's kind of, it's really kind of scary.
So I agree with what you're saying.
So is there anything that you would like to say to the public in terms, you know, this will go on to YouTube and obviously continue to be informative about the water that you've got.
Anything more about Even technically that you want to sort of talk about just here in the last few minutes while we're still here.
We do have a chat room.
I'll see if there's any questions.
I'm going to put just a picture here of your website.
For people.
And the links are on my website, obviously, on ProjectHamlet.tv.
And you can get to Davinia Water from there and also their Facebook page, etc.
And it's just DaviniaWater.com, I think, is your URL. Is that correct?
Yes.
One thing I would love to touch on, if I may, for just a few minutes.
When we first started out, we were learning about what this water is or how to categorize it.
One of those things we came across was deuterium depletion after a marathon runner started experiencing better results after drinking the water.
Doing our due diligence, we had this lab tested, and sure enough, it was deuterium depleted.
We like a little bit of debate and discussion here.
With deuterium depletion and the idea of it finally hitting the states from Europe, it's so interesting to read emails and people's perception and ideas of how much deuterium depletion you should drink, what's really good versus what's really bad, what level of deuterium depletion is most optimum, where does even the definition of deuterium depletion start?
Is it under 140 parts per million?
Is it under 130 parts per million?
And at what point, again, do people really start seeing the benefits of it?
And so we found a lot of people have actually come to us because they see that deuterium depleted water over in Europe is quite expensive to haul to the States.
And it's in plastic.
And, you know, we can't verify, you know, what source they're getting the water from or how clean it is, how the water is treated.
How do they deplete the water of deuterium?
What sort of methods are they using?
And all of those sorts of things.
So people have been coming to us because they appreciate that there's many aspects to the water, including the deuterium depletion.
And ours sits at about 130 parts per million.
And so that starts to bring up the question, well, is that deuterium depleted enough?
And so kind of working off what Stephen was saying, a lot of doctors have been Telling their patients, well, hey, 130 parts per million is depleted.
And in fact, that's the depletion level of Hunza water, which is naturally occurring, deuterium depleted water in the Palestinian region.
And it's known for people just living for 90 plus years.
They're happy, healthy, long living folks that live around this water source of deuterium depleted water.
And so we get a lot of people that are, you know, telling us, well, that's not depleted enough.
Well, you know, doctors are saying that maybe 130 parts per million is excellent for daily consumption, that you really don't need much more than that.
If you start drinking water at 30, 25, 15 parts per million, at some point it starts to get too aggressive.
And if you want to check it out, I can't remember his name, but there's actually a gentleman on YouTube who drinks heavy water and says that there's benefits of drinking heavy water.
So anyway, I just kind of wanted to throw that out into the ether, so to speak, and get people talking about deuterium-deplated water because I really feel like it's underestimated.
People aren't really researching it quite yet, and I'd love to see more scientific Unbiased scientific research and understanding of deuterium-depleted water.
But we're really proud of the fact that we didn't endeavor to deplete water of deuterium, and yet our process does so naturally as we purify it.
And so, you know, that in tangent with everything else that the water offers, I think, makes for some pretty awesome bottled water.
But yeah, just, you know, throwing that out there, because there is a lot of discussion of what deuterium depletion is, Is what the deuterium depletion level of our water is?
And does it make sense for me?
Does it make sense for where I am at in my health journey?
And I absolutely think so.
I think it's totally in line with what is naturally occurring for deuterium depletion.
I don't know if you have anything to add to that.
No, I don't.
One question we do get quite a bit is, how much of this water should we drink?
We say anywhere from three to six bottles a day, depending upon which you think your hydration level needs or requires.
We had one gal that was drinking almost, I think it was two gallons of water a day, and she just could not get hydrated.
And now she's down to half a gallon a day of our water.
So, yeah, and I appreciate that.
Now, someone in the chat is asking, oxygenated at 102%, what does that mean?
Water is, as I said, very aggressive or reactive.
And when it's exposed to air, it will capture extra oxygen or carbon dioxide out of the air.
It absorbs it and holds it in there.
And because of the molecular structure of our water, it actually grabs the oxygen out of the air and holds on to it.
So you have H2O, and if you have all of H2O, then the oxygen is 100% oxygenated.
That's saturated.
And at different temperatures and altitudes, it absorbs more or less.
But our water will actually grab oxygen out of the air and hold on to it, separate from H2O. So we have, that's why I said saturated oxygen at 102%.
It actually has 2% extra oxygen in the water.
And when you drink it, that's released into your body.
That's great, because there's a lack of oxygen now on the planet, right?
Yeah, and that's, you know, one of the major ways that they fight a lot of diseases now is to put you into a hyperbaric chamber where they increase the oxygen that tries to force oxygen into your lungs and everything so you get extra oxygen.
Well, this does it naturally.
It stays there.
Right.
Now, someone is saying, you know, what is your opinion of people drinking water that is local to where they are born?
I think you kind of already addressed that question, but do you want to elaborate at all?
Yeah, I do.
It would be nice if we could drink the water that we're locally to where we were born.
And I do agree with that if the water was not contaminated anymore.
But the problem is, is If you live in the Love Canal back in Ohio, would you want to drink the water out of the local there?
Would you want to drink the water now out of Pennsylvania where they're fracturing all the rocks and pouring all those contaminants in that gets down to the well systems and that sort of stuff?
That no longer is a valid assumption.
Who came out the World Health Organization and said there is no Contaminated water or uncontaminated water on the face of the Earth or underneath it anywhere, anywhere in the world.
So, well, that's a nice idea.
The problem with that is practically that doesn't exist anymore.
Right.
Yeah, I can see that.
Now, I have a question that's kind of a strange question, perhaps, but During the war, World War II, there was a movie that I saw that was dealing with water and that they had to use special water to create some kind of...
I don't know if it was bombs or what it was, but...
It's heavy water.
That's deuterium to water.
Okay, so that is in essence what, in a sense, you've created, isn't that?
I mean, this is...
We're in the office and we're depleting that water.
Okay, so what does that mean?
So what that means is that when we say heavy water, water is usually H2O. And the hydrogen that's part of the H2O just has a proton and an electron.
When we say heavy hydrogen or heavy water, we mean a hydrogen that has an extra neutron in it.
And an extra neutron is heavy.
And it's not used for anything in the body.
It can't be used.
All it does is go around and knock into other molecules and knock electrons off, and it causes free radicals.
In fact, if you drink heavy water, it will kill you because your organs shut down because they can't use it.
When you start to lighten it up, when you have lighter water, What that means is that it's more bioavailable to your organs and it is healthier for your organs to drink lighter water.
Okay.
So you're correct.
Germany was developing heavy water for their atomic bombs.
And if you recall, we went over to Norway.
It was in Norway.
And we bombed their heavy water facility.
Right.
In fact, one of the ships sank in the In the lake there with heavy water.
And they actually told the people around the lake not to drink that water anymore for years.
Yeah, very interesting.
Well, there may also be...
I mean, I don't know if I tried to...
I think I tried to put you guys in touch with Richard Allen Miller.
I don't know if it ever happened.
But, you know, there are some...
Other uses, I would imagine.
And there's also the cosmetic element because good water that has good energy to it can actually be applied to the skin and heal skin issues.
And I think at one point you had, I think, sort of a cosmetic division.
I don't know if you still do.
Do you want to address that?
Yes, we did.
We had a cosmetic division.
One of the things that we found out Is that when you take this water and you ran it through our processors ten times, it changed the molecular structure even more.
And we use that for topical applications.
For instance, people who had melanoma, when they would apply it to their skin, it would cause the melanoma to go into recession.
It would disappear.
And so we started making cosmetics with it in the early days for skincare, and it was actually wonderful for skincare.
And we will be back into that within years.
But the problem was that it then tied up one of our processors 10 times more than was needed for making drinking water.
And the drinking water started to Explode so much that we had such a requirement for it that we had to decide to shut that down so we could supply more drinking water.
Right.
When we get up to capacity, we will readdress that again and probably go back into the cosmetic area again.
Because it helps with your scars.
It removes melanomas off of your skin.
It actually removed wrinkles.
It was great for stretch marks for women.
It was actually, it made women look 10 years younger.
Or men.
Or men.
Yeah, it works on all humans.
Yeah, I hear you.
On all humans.
On humans.
So we will readdress that in the future.
Excellent.
All right.
Well, it's been great talking to you as always.
As I say, you know, please do keep us updated because I'd love to have you guys back anytime you have new information about this water.
I think it's so important to get the word out.
And, you know, we're just trying to make people aware that how important water is and the quality of it, but also specifically Davinia Water and this sort of scientific process that you've You pioneered with respect to that.
So, you know, I want to thank you both so much for, really, your contribution to humanity and to good water.
Is there any parting remarks you'd like to say?
We can go from one to the other, so either one go first.
Well, we want to thank you very much for your support of this, Carrie, your support of clean water.
One thing I did not mention about DDW, and there's a clinical study that around the levels that we have with the deuterium depletion, it cures about 90% of all depressions.
Wow.
And we do have a first-hand experience with that with someone in our family.
So, you know, if anyone feels that they have some chronic depression, And we've had a lot of people report over it.
You know, look at using this water to change your lifestyle.
And I just want to thank you for, you know, just being so accessible and for disseminating this information so freely.
To be honest, it's been kind of difficult to find avenues and mouthpieces that will allow us to talk about our water and what we do and what we're in pursuit of and what we found.
It's been kind of Staggering, actually, people that have called themselves gatekeepers of information and wanting to share this information, and yet it's been so difficult to try and share this information with the public.
So I just want to thank you for, you know, being consistent and fair and unbiased in what you report to the public, because I can tell you without a doubt there's not very many people like you that allow us and your other guests to share this information so freely.
So, you know, I just want to say thank you for that and allowing us to, you know, tell people what we know, what we've learned, because at the end of the day, we just want to help more people.
And I think you're kind of along the same line.
So I just want to say thank you for that.
And we enjoy being on your show.
And I think when we learn more about the results of our clinical trial, we'll be happy to be back on and share more information about that as well.
I want people to think of us as the sea biscuit of water.
If you remember the horse sea biscuit, and it was a long shot, and they said it would never succeed.
And he had to go up against, I think it was War Admiral at Pimlico, and he won.
Right.
That's what we're going to get to at some point.
Yeah, a real David and Goliath kind of story.
Well, it's great to see you guys progressing and having more reach out there in the world, and I know people really do benefit from the water.
Now, I do want to ask you, do you need to say, or do I need to say, any kind of a disclaimer in terms of Anything that's been talked about here, the healing properties of the water, etc.
Do you guys put a disclaimer?
Are you able to not put a disclaimer?
How does that work?
Well, we've told you anecdotal stories.
We are not doctors, physicians.
So anybody who relies on any of the information that we talked about today We do disclose that we're not doctors and that you should visit your doctor and work in conjunction with your doctor on your health issues.
All we stated today was anecdotal stories that were told to us through our clients and we are not advocating if you have a life-threatening or any type of medical problem that you use this.
That you do your own study and you work with your doctor and let your doctor prescribe what you need.
Okay, fair enough.
So I want to thank you again and I'll let you guys go and have a great afternoon and thank you so much for what you do.
Thank you, Carrie.
Thank you.
All right.
Okay.
So, goodbye.
And what I'm going to do here is just put some closing remarks over here and see if we can get this going here.
So...
And I also have a disclaimer.
Basically, I'm not recommending anything.
I'm not a doctor.
I do drink this water and I find personal benefits from it.
So I will say that.
And that's my dog in the background.
So anyway, I am going to be live again tomorrow with Courtney Brown, Princess, and Daz Smith, his remote viewing team.
We're going to be talking about their remote viewing of Moses and the Ten Commandments, Egypt, And actually sort of a UFO visitation that accompanied that.
And so it's kind of groundbreaking information if you want to look at remote viewing in that way.
And we should have a great discussion on what they did if you want to see the video that they presented this information beforehand to see the viewings, etc., educate yourself, etc.
It's highly recommended.
And you can go to Farsight Institute.
I believe it's Farsight.org or FarsightInstitute.org.
One of those URLs should get you to his website.
And so that's tomorrow on this channel.
This is my live channel now.
I'm using this as my live platform channel.
This is Project Camelot TV Network LLC. So if you put that into YouTube...
You'll find this live broadcast channel.
And then once the shows are over, I shift them over to my main YouTube channel, which is Project Camelot, as everyone knows.
So we're just forced to do this for at least three months and maybe longer, indefinitely, however long it takes until they allow me to live broadcast on my main channel again.
And this is all because I did, again, an interview with James Fetzer and Ole Domogard about false flags or state-sponsored terrorism.
So, anyway, thanks for listening and for watching as always, and have a great day.
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