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April 25, 2018 - Project Camelot

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An interview with DAVID HAWKINS FROM ABEL DANGER

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	I have the sound off.
	Okay.
	Hi, everyone.
	I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot.
	And it has been, well, sort of a logistical nightmare getting myself to go live here.
	A lot of logistical issues and had a really diabolical day at the DMV, five and a half hours just trying to renew my license.
	So clearly that institution is antiquated and needs to go into the trash bin completely and be revamped altogether.
	And we have a wonderful guest tonight, David Hawkins.
	And David, I'm so pleased to have you here.
	I want you to introduce yourself because I think, I don't know if you saw my message, but I've never gotten a clear bio for you.
	A lot of bits and pieces are out there.
	But I kind of put a short summary of you on my website, but I'd really like to hear from you as to what is your really background.
	And I think a lot of people know you and Abel Danger and Field McConnell as a great team of investigators.
	But beyond that, if we could get some personal details about you, that would be really delightful.
	And I'm going to switch screens over here so that everyone can see you.
	So go ahead.
	Yes, thank you very much, Kerry.
	So I'm advanced.
	I think whether I'm a septuagenarian or not, I think I'm 74.
	Does that make me a septuagenarian, right?
	Yeah, I think I've lost count already.
	All right.
	I wish I could.
	But, you know, I went to Cambridge University.
	I did engineering, mechanical engineering, and then a year of industrial management.
	I joined a big electrical distributing company called CEGB in the UK. And then I spent 15 fascinating years with a company called Schlumberger, which is a French company with a headquarters in Paris.
	And so I went to some interesting places in the world, Nigeria and Australia.
	My last job with them was coordinator of artificial intelligence and geoscience research at the research lab in Ridgefield, Connecticut.
	And I pioneered a new way of using computers that mimicked or emulated human expert problem solving.
	And this is going to play into what I'm doing now, which I describe myself as a forensic economist.
	After leaving Schlumberger, I started work with my own company in the United Kingdom, developing artificial intelligence systems.
	And we actually were runner up in the We're the heuristic expert system for the petrophysical evaluation of rocks or reservoirs.
	So I don't want to bore your listeners with explaining how that works.
	But the essence was that human experts function in a certain way.
	They don't solve simultaneous equations.
	They don't do anything that a computer does.
	And I was able to capture the model-based simulation that humans use when they're trying to analyze...
	Well, back then it was...
	And today it's crime scenes.
	Now, the thing that has troubled me greatly is the post-secondary education fascination with what they call, I think it's post-normal science that a scientist wouldn't recognize.
	So when they look at crime scenes now, the general public is forced to jump immediately to motive And ignore the most important aspect of the crime, which is the weapon that was used.
	So we end up, let's say, with JFK, for example.
	I was pacing the Dealey Plaza the year after he was assassinated.
	By chance I had my hair cut by Jack Ruby's barber and I asked him who he thought or who the people of Dallas thought killed JFK and he said to me, it still rings in my ears, everyone in Dallas knows there were multiple snipers teams.
	So fast forward, if you look at, if one looks at the Zapruder camera and the 23 second clip of Kennedy moving through Dealey Plaza, you can see he's hit probably twice from behind and then the third bullet jerks his head backwards and we subsequently find there's a six square inch fragment of skull blown out of the back of his head and Kerry, that's not a shot from behind.
	Oh, wow.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	When we look at the towers 1 and 2 coming down, we see that there are 10-ton girders being thrown out of the top of the towers in a parabolic arc and embedding themselves in buildings 100 meters away.
	And that carry is not gravity.
	Those buildings were blown up.
	Right.
	When we look at the attack on the Pentagon's US Navy Command Center, And I still have great trouble asking Americans what they think the target of 911 was.
	And they tell me, oh, it was some lone terrorist straddling a yak in a cave in Afghanistan.
	And I'm saying, you mean this guy can take on the most powerful nation in the world and bring it nearly to its knees and take out the Pentagon's U.S. Navy Command Center?
	So I say to Americans, what do you think happened to the functions of the Pentagon's U.S. Navy Command Center after 9-1-1?
	Because everyone in that building or office was killed.
	And they look at me, and I'm not saying they're stupid, I'm just saying they're not paying attention.
	Because this, Kerry, was an attempted coup d'etat.
	No doubt about it.
	Well, to say nothing about the fact that this so-called terrorist, Osama bin Laden, had been working for the CIA. And actually, Jordan Duff calls him a hero.
	For what he did.
	So that's a very interesting way of talking about him.
	And he also died.
	He probably had nothing to do with 9-11, actually.
	So that's, you know, another side to that.
	So, yes, I mean, you know, absolutely.
	And it's great that you summarized those two very crucial incidents or, you know, events.
	But Your expertise is in AI. I mean, this is extraordinary.
	Well, you know, over the years I've got extraordinarily interested in history with a particular view of the United Kingdom, which is my home country, and the extent to which it's infiltrated the United States and in fact controls the key elements of your government, in particular the United States National Visa Center.
	The United States Patent and Trademark Office and the United States Defense Ammunition Center are all controlled by the British company Circo, which perhaps I can elucidate.
	Yes, it would be great for you to go into detail on Circo.
	And there is also the relationship of the NSA and GCHQ, which is an interesting one, which I'm sure you're aware of.
	And I'm sure there may be other links that you may know.
	So, yes, please do go ahead.
	Right.
	So let's go to the morning of 9-11.
	The Chief Executive Officer, Chris Hyman, of Serco, He goes to a breakfast meeting in the windows of the World Restaurant at the top of the North Tower.
	And my guess is that that meeting started around 8 o'clock.
	Now this weasel, call him a weasel because I could probably say something stronger, he decides to leave the breakfast meeting up at the top of the North Tower, the windows of the World Restaurant, probably around 8.30.
	And he gets in an elevator and he goes down to the 47th floor To address the meeting of Serco shareholders.
	I think you'll be amused to know that one of those shareholders is the state of California and its funds.
	Together with 10 so-called global custodian banks, BNY Mellon being one of them, Bank of New York Mellon.
	Those 10 global custodians who are shareholders of Serco represent $80 trillion of assets under management.
	And towards the end of the show, if I may, I'm going to talk about how communities can sue Serco and its shareholders for wrongful deaths associated with 911 and numerous incidents around the world.
	But I'll come back to that.
	There were three governments who are shareholders of Serco.
	The United Kingdom is one.
	Sorry.
	Okay, yeah, it looks like they tried to, you know, it's possible we're going to get interfered with here.
	There was just a brief drop in your sound, but I don't think we lost anything, so continue, please.
	I might have twiddled the little plug-in here, so...
	Yeah, so there's the United Kingdom, which is really interesting.
	So...
	There's a United Kingdom representative on the 47th floor of the North Tower.
	The other government, a sovereign government, which would have sent representatives is Singapore.
	And the third, Kerry, is Saudi Arabia.
	Right.
	Well, that's kind of important because the Saudis, about, I think, 11 of the 18 hijackers, the so-called muscle hijackers, came through Dubai in the United Arab Emirates and picked up a visa from the office run by Serco because Serco runs the National Visa Center in the United States and Serco brought in the sleeper cells,
	the Al-Qaeda or Bin Laden sleeper cells, into the United States and passed them out around various strategic targets so that they would be prepared for the 9-1-1 attack.
	Now, do you mind if I ask how you know this information?
	Just following the dots.
	It's all public.
	I mean, people can check this.
	But it's well known that the muscle hijackers came, I think, from a province called Qassim.
	I think it's Q-A-S-S-I-M. And they went to Dubai to pick up their visas.
	And the office of the United States National Visa Center In Dubai is staffed by Circo because the office of the National Visa Center contains or has five members of the Senior Executive Service reporting to Phil McConnell's sister Christine Marcy on 9-1-1 because she founded the Senior Executive Service and 500 employees of the British company Circo.
	So I'd say to my American friends, why on earth Are you having your National Visa Center, which is a strategic office, because you can let all kinds of horrible people into your country, being run by the British?
	It's absurd.
	It's great information, yes.
	Anyway, so we have the United Kingdom, Singapore and Saudi Arabia, and then I don't know if you've ever heard the quote from David Rockefeller where he says, The world is ready to move to a supranational government of world bankers and an intellectual elite.
	Have you heard him say that or have you heard that quoted?
	I think so, yes.
	Okay.
	Two of the shareholders of Serco, I guess, would be described as institutions for the Wealth creation or the wealth preservation of the intellectual elite.
	One of those is the TIAA, the Teachers Insurance Annuity Association.
	And they would pay the pension benefits of people like Bill and Hillary Clinton and Barack and Michelle Obama.
	Right?
	Now, I don't know if you...
	Well, that's a really odd...
	Why would a teachers association pay benefits to people in government?
	Well, because they were teachers or faculty members at universities, right?
	Bill and Hillary Clinton both taught law, and Barack Obama taught constitutional law.
	What he knows about the American Constitution, I think he probably knows less than I do.
	Anyway, he was at the University of Chicago.
	And Michelle Obama, now I assume she collected a pension because at one time she was the Vice President of Community Affairs for the University of Chicago Medical Hospitals on a salary of $315,000 a year, actively promoting late-term abortion.
	Oh, interesting.
	Right?
	So if they're paid as faculty members, And they were contributing to TIAA, which is, I believe, the largest private pension fund in the world.
	Then one day when they retire, they will be drawing benefits down from TIAA. And that kind of worries me because TIAA is a shareholder in Serco, which provided the third-party logistics service to the Bin Laden Group and various Conair SWAT teams.
	On 9-1-1.
	So you've got 10 global custodians with 80 trillion dollars of assets under management.
	You've got the state of California and its funds.
	You've got three governments, the United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia and Singapore.
	And you've got two, I would describe them as radical Marxist teachers pension funds because TIA in the States and its counterpart in the United Kingdom the university superannuation scheme Basically all of the people who bubble to the top in academia in the United States in the United Kingdom a hard-left Okay, well that's yeah, that's an interesting statement.
	Uh, okay fair enough So from here You're basically looking at Serco.
	At some point, you also look at the technology that they somehow...
	I don't know if they manufacture it or they make it possible.
	You've got this thing about dum-dum bullets.
	I don't know if that factors into this part of the story.
	Yeah, totally.
	So the technology...
	And I coined a phrase a few days ago.
	I don't know whether you like it.
	It's called technocide.
	That is to say, instead of genocide, it's the idea that you can mobilize technology, much of which is used to make our lives better, but to run surveillance on people who might be described within a patent application as having some kind of abnormality.
	And of course, this smacks of the Nazi death camps and the Mengele doctors and all this sort of thing, where they're looking for something, maybe a genetic disease, Flaw in their minds, which would justify the elimination of a section of society.
	And unfortunately, in the United States, you've got a group of, I believe, people, many of them in Silicon Valley, who've got addicted to technology.
	And that might sound a little funny coming from me because I did a lot of key work, I think, in artificial intelligence.
	But I actually wrote a paper called The Analysis of Expert Thinking.
	That was published in the International Journal of Man Machine Studies in 1983, where I talked about the limitation of computers.
	And I described them back then as useful tools as to enhance human intelligence or problem solving, but absolutely never ever to be a substitute for human intelligence.
	Because the thing a human can do is, it can forgive you, or it can show compassion.
	Or it can empathize.
	Sure.
	Right?
	Now a computer will look at you, and you might be holding up your hands to surrender, but maybe it's been programmed to find that your belief about climate change is an abnormality, so you need to be killed.
	So you've got this absurd situation where 98% of the world believes, or allegedly believes, that carbon dioxide, which is a trace gas in the atmosphere, It's wholly beneficial, it's odorless, and it's a fertilizer gas that helps make the plants green.
	We're now told by these clowns that carbon dioxide is a driver of catastrophic anthropogenic global warming.
	And that, I don't know if there's a polite American term for that, I could call it hogwash.
	It's actually something that makes the plants green.
	So I say to my green friends, all right, when you've taken all the carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere, And the plants die and go brown.
	Are you going to call yourself the brown party?
	But it doesn't have the same cachet, right?
	Right.
	Absolutely.
	No doubt about it.
	I'm sorry.
	Go ahead.
	Yeah, no.
	Absolutely.
	I was just agreeing with you.
	Go ahead.
	Okay.
	Now, I noticed you have a Project Camelot, which is a lovely name because...
	Camelot evokes so many wonderful memories, you know, knights charging around on horseback and saving ladies from terrible fates and all that sort of thing.
	Maybe it's a bit sexist and historical and so on.
	But Camelot is a nice word.
	And I'd like to introduce you to another project called Project Piranha.
	And Project Piranha, if you Google University of Tennessee and Battelle Institute, You'll find there is a project called Project Print Piranha that's been funded by the Department of Energy.
	And one of the patents, this comes back to technoside, that has given this project a real nasty edge is that they can delve or mine your health records and cross-correlate Treatments and abnormalities to see if,
	for example, liver cancer can be correlated with climate change.
	Now this sounds a lot like what I know of as PROMIS software and its capability is down these lines as well.
	Are you familiar with that?
	Yes, Promise was stolen by the Department of Justice.
	Right.
	And I believe Danny Casalero was murdered by these people because he was blowing the whistle on it.
	Right.
	Now, this idea, I mean, it goes back to the Germans in World War II and probably prior to that in the concentration camps.
	There's this idea that you can identify abnormalities in the gene pool of people And ultimately develop toxins or poisons that could selectively eliminate that ethnic group or genetic group from the population, the human population.
	And I think we'd be naive, Kerry, if we think that that research has never stopped.
	In fact, one area where it is being actively pursued is Northwestern University in Chicago.
	Where Bernadine Dawn, the leader of the Weather Underground terrorist organization, used to lecture.
	And this woman is a psychopath.
	She should have been put down like a mad dog many years ago.
	One of her seminars, Gary, was torture, paradigms, and practice.
	How does that grab you?
	Very shocking.
	Right.
	Well, anyway, at Northwestern University, There's a project funded by the Defence Threat Research Reduction Agency for detoxification.
	And I don't know if you remember that there was an alleged Novichok attack at a beautiful little cathedral city in England called Salisbury in Wiltshire.
	Oh, yes.
	Where Mr.
	Sergei Skripal and his daughter were found on a park bench in a comatose state.
	And the British intelligence jumped on that and said, it's an attack out of Russia, this Novichok nerve chemical or nerve agent.
	The Russians protested that they had never produced Novichok.
	They had some precursor chemicals that they called foliand.
	And those stocks had been destroyed under the supervision of the American Defense Threat Reduction Agency.
	So the Defense Threat Reduction Agency people went out to Russia and supervised the destruction of their chemical stock.
	Well, except that, you know, I happen to spend time in England and Salisbury, I think that's how you say it, is also where they produce nerve agents.
	Yeah, Porton Down, just up the road.
	Right.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	So is this, are you leading in that direction?
	Yes, totally.
	I'm saying that there's a number of places that have been Producing Novichok, including Northwestern University in Chicago, because they got a contract from the Defense Threat Reduction Agency to develop a detoxification system, which they patented.
	And if you look at the list of agents that they were able to detoxify, it includes Novichok.
	But you can't prove that you've got a system to detoxify a given agent unless you have samples of the agent to be detoxified.
	So at least at the university where the leader of the terrorist underground organization, Weather Underground, was working for many, many years, we have the possibility that this faculty is actually producing toxins that are extremely virulent.
	I mean, Novichok, I think, is eight times stronger than VX gas, which was invented by the British at Porton Down.
	So basically, these people are hypocrites.
	Right, but Theresa May went before the public, you know, accusing Russia, throwing out their diplomats and all that stuff with deadlines and nonsense, and basically trying to take the attention away from the Brits.
	If this attack was handled by anyone, it had to be British, really.
	British intelligence together with their counterparts in the United States, because the two countries have been working together for decades, right?
	Yes.
	And going back to the technology, which interests me because I have a patent in artificial intelligence for deductive computing machine, but I took that out in the 1980s.
	But be that as it may, if we go back to the Second World War, what's totally fascinating is The British made a lot of very brilliant steps in technology, basically facing the attack or potential attack of the Germans.
	So they invented things like identification, friend or foe, radar, precision navigation, and quite a significant number of chemical and biological agents.
	And they sent people over to the Manhattan Project in the United States To help the Americans develop the atomic bomb.
	What Churchill found and the British found after World War II is that the Americans were about to isolate the UK as far as nuclear technology was concerned.
	So the British decided that they would actually develop a bomb themselves And demonstrate to the Americans that they had the ability to produce a bomb anyway.
	Essentially, to cut the long story short, the British pioneered major advances in chemical and biological weapons, a lot of it at Porton Down.
	The Americans pioneered advances in nuclear technology, and the two countries pooled their patented devices.
	So basically, in some cases, Britain can Launch a chemical attack and blame it on the Americans or whoever the Americans' enemies are and vice versa.
	It even gets worse because the Defense Threat Reduction Agency supervised the destruction of 1,600 tons of Syrian chemical missiles or chemical components or precursors.
	So now to accuse the Syrians of dropping the stuff on their own people is again, it's total hypocrisy because the Americans and the Brits have samples and stocks of both and they can set up a country and I'm not saying the Syrians are innocent or the Russians are innocent but in this particular case they've been framed.
	Right, absolutely.
	So, you know, I want to ask you, I don't know if you know a man named Michael Shrimpton.
	I know of him.
	Okay.
	I've interviewed him, actually more than once, and I've read his book, which is a quite fascinating book, and he has, you know, been involved with British intelligence in various ways.
	He was also thrown in jail by them.
	So, What I'm wondering is whether or not you agree with his assessment that this German DVD is formerly known as the Abwehr.
	I'm not sure if I'm pronouncing that right.
	Whether you think that they have infiltrated the British and American governments as well as the Israelis and probably other governments around the world and that they are very Deep in Antarctica.
	I don't know if you guys have done much investigation into Antarctica and what's going on there.
	But I wonder if you see them as having a hand in all of this.
	I don't know a great deal about the app there and the DVD. My sense is the Five Eyes countries, which are Australia, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom, and Canada, and the United States.
	Developed an extraordinarily powerful surveillance system in World War II, and it's got increasingly powerful.
	And I think this is where the triggers for the technocide or potential technocide of large sections of the human race become, because now there are meta-systems crawling around the web looking for personalities who can be manipulated into the kinds of attack we witnessed with For example, Nicholas Cruz.
	I think I'm dodging the question.
	As far as the German penetration of Anglo-American or the Five Eyes intelligence, I don't believe it's a serious threat.
	I think what is a much more serious threat is a domestic enemy that's grown up within the United Kingdom and the United States, in fact, the Five Eyes countries, that is now in a position, and if I may, perhaps I could just mention this dum-dum ammunition, which is truly scary.
	Yes, please do.
	Okay, the first dum-dum or hollow-nosed bullet, they were developed at a town called, I think, Dum-Dum in India.
	In the particular context that, and there's the most amazing description at the 1899 Hague Convention where the British delegate says, we really need dum-dum bullets to handle unrest in our colonies because Whilst a civilized soldier,
	when hit by a bullet, will tend to lie down on the battlefield and wait for an ambulance and a stretcher-bearer to take them away, the crazed and fanatical tribesmen, you can shoot them six times with small ball bullets and they'll keep on traveling, right?
	And they won't lie down and play dead.
	So the British boosted or encouraged the idea of the dum-dum bullet because the bullet spreads on impact.
	So it imparts all of its kinetic energy to the onrushing fanatical barbarian and tends to slow them down a bit, right?
	I mean, I think it's like an episode of Seinfeld.
	I've got this vision of, you know, educated, nice soldiers lying down waiting for stretchers and the fanatical tribesmen just plowing through the bullets.
	Anyway, the dum-dum story...
	I think 20 countries voted against dum-dum bullets, and two, that is South Africa, the Boas and the British decided that they wanted dum-dum bullets.
	Now, about four or five or six years ago, the Department of Homeland Security ordered 1.4 billion hollow-nosed bullets.
	That's incredible.
	For distribution, and I'm going to tell you where I think it went, but it's like hidden in plain view.
	Within the United States, now people are saying, why does the Department of Homeland Security need 1.4 billion hollow-nosed bullets?
	Well, it gets worse because at, for example, Northwestern University, they have developed methods of putting toxins inside the hollow cavity, inside the bullet.
	And there is a patent out, and I'm talking about technocyte, which describes a biological bullet that can be loaded up with, let me see if I can remember some of these things, anticoagulants, hallucinogens, nerve gas,
	all kinds of horrible things, and the language of the patent just describes it boldly, and it says triumphantly, we could even track A terrorist through airport security, because if we shoot him with a bullet that's radioactive, the blood will drip and we can follow him with a Geiger counter.
	Now, I'm saying, what is this, right?
	So you, in the United States, right now, and I think this should be an all-stations alert, they've hidden in weapons caches Up to 1.4 billion rounds of hollow-nosed ammunition, which is filled.
	In some cases it might have nothing, but in other cases it might have a toxin like Novichok or anthrax.
	So when it hits someone, it says at the end of this patent application, the beauty of this patent, it's not quite that language, is we only need one bullet to kill someone, so we're going to save ammunition.
	So this, and this is the Dum Dum one as well.
	So it's called Hollow Nose?
	Yeah.
	Sorry, the historical name came from the town of Dum Dum, where there was an arsenal that the British forces used to produce these bullets.
	But in some areas, it's come down.
	Any Hollow Nose bullet is described as Dum Dum, but essentially they fragment on impact and they impart all of their kinetic energy into the target.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Yeah, that's amazing.
	All right.
	So they can also use, I mean, I guess they could shoot it into crowds and if it releases a nerve agent in one body, I wonder if it Also spreads from there like it's not you know,
	it's catching or something Oh, well, yes, it could be extremely like Novichok is very toxic one drop will kill you which is another reason why it's extremely unlikely that the Screekel father and daughter were hit by Novichok because they they were dead now there's a Laboratory in Switzerland I thought they survived I Well, exactly.
	But if they were really hit with Novichok, they'd be dead.
	Oh, you mean you don't think they were hit by that?
	Well, let's say if they were hit by a hollow-nosed bullet, which could be a small pellet, what they can do, and that was part of this pattern that I'm talking about, the biologic bullet, is they can put a little bit of Novichok in, and let's say another element, which might be the hallucinogen, which is known as BZ or buzz, right?
	Now that would mean you can actually dial in what effect you want to induce in the target, that is to say, a little bit of Novichok poisoning, so little that they don't actually kill them, and a fair amount of the buzz which actually puts them into a coma.
	Right.
	Because now, apparently, Julia Skriegel has recovered.
	Right.
	And two days after she was admitted to hospital, she was using her Russian equivalent of Facebook to tell her friends that she was okay.
	So this is a scam of monumental proportions.
	Okay, so but you don't think...
	I mean, it did sound like it was a test case, and there seemed to be a link as well that I thought was sort of very strange that that Salisbury incident happened And then very shortly after that, you had this big to-do about a supposed chemical attack in Syria.
	They seem unrelated on the surface, but there does seem to be some kind of, if it was just, you know, in Syria, If the powers that be wanted to bring that to the surface, first in Britain by actually,
	you know, turning the Russians into our enemies, which they aren't, and then also going over to Syria and sort of further Sort of worsening the situation.
	Now, of course, you know the Syrian situation has been outed by, I believe, the excellent journalist Robert Fisk, who I think was the first to say that actually he went to the town, so he went feet on the ground to the place the way a journalist is supposed to do,
	and found out the real story, which was basically heavy bombing and smoke inhalation and And dust inhalation in the caves where people were hiding.
	Right?
	Yeah, exactly.
	And then, you see, that's why Americans should...
	I mean, we're proposing, Able Danger is proposing, we write an open letter to General Kelly, who is White House Chief of Staff, not necessarily direct him.
	I don't know whether he reads it, but he can't complain that he wasn't informed.
	We believe at Able Danger that...
	You Americans have to strip Serco and Conair, and I'll come to that in a minute, and the so-called Senior Executive Service out of any contract with the United States, because all three of those organizations are partly, I think, to the attempted coup d'etat on 9-1-1 and the continuing insurrection within your country.
	Fair enough.
	That makes sense.
	Although I wonder that targeting just those organizations would be sufficient.
	You know, there's so much...
	I mean, the military-industrial complex in the United States is, you know, vast and very...
	You know, everyone is in everyone else's bed, so to speak.
	And, you know, Blackwater and Halliburton and...
	I mean, it just goes on and on.
	So I don't see how just...
	Outing, you know, a couple of corporations is really going to do the trick.
	Can I just respond to that?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Yeah, so as I said earlier, Serco had a shareholders meeting on the 47th floor of the North Tower 911 just prior to the first plane hitting the north face of the North Tower.
	And as I said, it's got 10...
	Global custodians, including BNY Mellon and Northern Trust of Chicago, representing $80 trillion of assets under management.
	Now, what that means is those four global custodians, they manage, for example, a pension fund with respect to its individual investments in equity.
	So up here in British Columbia, we have a government pension fund called BCIMC, and it has shares in Boeing.
	It's handed over the job of administering its shareholders to Northern Trust, which is one of the Serco shareholders.
	Now, what that means, if you add up all of the Boeing shares held by 10 global custodians, you end up with 60 to 70% control of Boeing.
	That is, you see, you have absolute control through this network of bankers.
	Sure.
	So, Serco, I agree with you that the military industrial complex is vast and confusing.
	But, for example, with those 10 global custodians, Serco would control the four key defense contractors whose assets were required to pull off an attempted coup d'etat on 9-1-1.
	And that's Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, and Boeing.
	Okay.
	And where does, just out of curiosity, where does Bechtel fit into that?
	Because they are very instrumental as well.
	Well, Bechtel doesn't Make the sort of the cutting-edge boom-boom nuclear hardware and that sort of thing.
	If you look at Lockheed Martin, for example, Lockheed Martin is in a joint venture with Serco in the United Kingdom to manufacture, distribute, dispose of nuclear weapons under the Atomic Weapons Establishment.
	So you've got two private companies, both of whom are controlled by a cartel of banks Right, that actually have their hands on the nuclear trigger.
	Now, I think it would be nice, sorry, go ahead.
	Well, no, that's very interesting.
	It also would be useful to name the banks because maybe at the end of the day the controllers are the bankers.
	And Citibank, this gets back to the promised software story, because the reason that journalist was killed was that he stumbled on the link of the head of Citibank and him being in control of the money and control of actually because the reason that journalist was killed was that he stumbled At least that's where he was at that point.
	That's many years ago.
	I don't know where it's gone since then, but certainly Citibank still gets mentioned in numerous places.
	And then there is the Bank of Scotland and many other organizations to say nothing of the Lloyds of London, et cetera.
	So what are your thoughts on that, the bankers really running the situation?
	Oh, totally.
	So going back to Rockefeller, and I'm just going to send you by text an email or text on Skype a link to the video of the Serco shareholders.
	Hopefully you'll get that.
	Oh, right.
	I think I did look at that.
	Is that the one that shows all the various connections that they have?
	Yes.
	It shows the bankers and it's truly scary.
	Yeah.
	Because, now, some people may not know the role of Northern Trust in the 19th century.
	Northern Trust in Chicago was the alien property custodian.
	That is to say, took possession of all of the trademarks and Designs and intellectual property, if you will, of the enemies of the United States in World War I and World War II. So there was a tremendous concentration of German patents and Japanese patents in Northern Trust in Chicago.
	And so when Northern Trust becomes a shareholder in Circo, meeting on the 47th floor, Northern Trust would have had access To all of the interesting patented devices necessary to attempt the coup d'etat of 911, including the Boeing Honeywell Uninterruptible Autopilot.
	Right.
	And that has to do with the, because, you know, I interviewed, I don't know if you remember, I interviewed both you and Field years ago on that subject.
	Yes.
	For those that might be interested in seeing those excellent interviews which are still on my YouTube channel.
	So It's really interesting the way you guys trace not only the corporations, but the technologies they support and patent and so on.
	All of that going throughout these situations.
	I wonder, and I hope I don't want to bring you off track, but I just want to mention that they're being used also in organizing the false flags that we're seeing constantly happening.
	And I'm told there's going to be a very big Some kind of an exercise and all these false flags happen during exercises and so just wondering whether you're tracing that same technology through those.
	Oh totally and so what I've become really intrigued by is whenever there's an announcement of an attack to go into the signature of the attack and see if I can identify what patented devices May have been used in a way that wasn't intended by the assignee or the inventor or the patentee.
	Because, as I've done myself, I applied for a patent for my deductive computing machine in 1988 in Europe.
	I spent a lot of money on it.
	Eventually, I ran out of money, and it becomes what you call, or what is called, stranded intellectual property.
	That is to say, the patent lawyer that I was paying, he effectively becomes custody of my intellectual property.
	Because I can't maintain it.
	So all he has to do, or she, is go off to a company that recognizes the value of this, and a little bit of money changes hands, and suddenly you've got what is known in the trade as a patent thicket or a patent pool that no one can break into.
	So on 9-1-1, for example, there was a patent thicket associated with guidance and control of Boeing Aircraft.
	A major component of which was this QRS-11 gyrochip, quartz-rate sensor gyrochip, that was developed, or the patent lawyer for BEI Industries that invented it, was Rose Law in Little Rock.
	And in fact, that was Hillary Clinton.
	So Hillary Clinton, she's not a patent lawyer, I'm told, she's an intellectual property lawyer, but she would have been superbly positioned to build These patent thickets or patent pools around nuclear chemical,
	biological, radiological, nuclear or explosive technology that would allow a group of insiders, let's say the bankers and the intellectual elite, to assemble the weapons necessary for the attempted coup d'etat of 9-1-1.
	Exactly.
	Well, what about What about this Gladio organization?
	Do you look at Gladio at all and how they factor in?
	Not really.
	Perhaps I'm cutting off my wide view, etc.
	I'm so intrigued, almost obsessed, I must admit, with the idea that you can create almost a cult following of the patent office to develop an extraordinarily dangerous man in the middle attack on the sovereign state so anyone who has keys to the patent office right or let's say they pass through some ritual oath-taking ceremony that I believe people like Bill and Hillary Clinton had to do in order to
	get the keys to the patent office they then become members of an elite with access to the bankers And the university intellectuals or research labs, and effectively they arm themselves with the weapons that, how should I put it, Gladio becomes a branch office, right?
	Right.
	This is a matrix.
	Well, Gladio is dealing with the teams that are used repeatedly in a lot of the killings and the false flags and laying the groundwork and all of that.
	And some of that comes from a guy named Chip Tatum, who was one of the members of one of those teams for a while.
	But there are others, obviously.
	So, yeah, the technology following the trail, I think, you're following the trail of the technology and, as you say, the patents, who owns what.
	Now, if you get back into the, I don't know what they call it, but it's kind of like a super chip that was involved in the aircraft industry.
	And I can't remember.
	There's so many aircraft numbers to remember.
	But the one that was on its way to China and had the super users on board was waylaid over to, what's that island?
	Diego Garcia.
	Yes, exactly.
	So in that case, I mean, that's really, you know, there was a fight over that patent, if you remember.
	And there was Israelis involved, and that was a division of, wasn't it Hughes?
	Yeah, Freescale Semiconductors.
	Yeah, but that was originally part of, I believe, Hughes Aerospace, if I have the right company.
	It might be another one.
	Anyway, do you know what I'm talking about?
	So you definitely traced all that.
	Yes, and now, again, any time, You see this kind of event.
	There's a lot of stories that are pumped into the media.
	They call it fake news.
	And so we always need to know what technology supports the injection of fake news and the elimination of true news.
	So coming back to the British, there's a company called Kinetic.
	Q-I-N-E-T-I-Q. Kinetic.
	And that was split off from the Portland Down people.
	In 2001.
	So Serco now manages the facilities at Porton Down, which is doing research into anthrax and all these other horrible things.
	Kinetic has moved more into the cyberspace.
	So they applied for a patent for, wonderful terminology, social engineering protection appliance.
	And what they can do is they control around the Internet, looking at your Facebook and so on, And looking for, in their words, malicious or criminal communications.
	The problem with that, Kerry, is who gets to decide what is malicious or criminal?
	We, trying to ferret out the truth, may very well be deemed to be hostile or malicious as far as the conspirators are concerned.
	Well, just actually using...
	I just want to back that up because, you know, I have just recently received a strike on my other YouTube channel such that I can't broadcast as I'm doing through this YouTube channel.
	However, live.
	And I can put videos up, but I can't broadcast anymore.
	And they have attacked me because I... Interviewed people who were investigating false flags.
	And if you use the word false flag, and especially if you use it in the title, or you talk about it a lot, they will target you.
	And so in exactly the way you're talking about, it's because you use the words.
	Right.
	And you see, that's why cutting through this web of technology or technoscience, The Mounters, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police had a wonderful phrase and they came up with it 15, 18 years ago and they said modern organized crime is so sophisticated it's got to the heart of Parliament itself and it operates as what they called or termed a virtual floating matrix which means there are people out there with their Regular
	day jobs and they've done something.
	Let's say they've had an initiation ceremony into a sorority or a fraternity.
	I come to Field Sister.
	Perhaps you as a woman will not be able to elucidate this extraordinary story with Field Sister.
	But let's say you have a hazing ritual, a sorority or a fraternity, and a woman, a young woman or a young man is filmed.
	In this humiliating hazing ceremony and then blackmailed.
	And that may last for the rest of her life or his life.
	Right.
	So the British is superb.
	They term it, do you have the wood on someone?
	That is to say, do you have enough information that they could hang on a wooden gallows?
	So very early on, probably hundreds of years ago, British intelligence, in order to run that extraordinary empire, They needed to divide and rule around the world because they never had the manpower to do a frontal attack on, let's say, the Indian subcontinent.
	Right.
	So the idea of entrapment, particularly the children, pedophile entrapment and then blackmail, is extraordinarily powerful because you might go to a pub in Thailand for a night out with your friends, And you wake up in bed, you know, you've been drugged, and there's a child beside you, and there's a film that's been taken, and that film is now on the internet or, you know, on Facebook with deep encryption.
	So they have means of A, monitoring the semantic and non-semantic communication.
	So, for example, if you use false flag, they can gradually reduce the traffic coming to your site and start to isolate you.
	So for me, the only remedy is to identify the company and then sue the hell out of it.
	So I believe Kinetic and Serco, they're two British companies.
	In my book, using the terminology of the United States, they are racketeering, influenced and corrupt organizations engaged in murder for hire.
	And they need to be taken down, like right now.
	Yeah, that's extraordinary.
	And I think you probably have all the evidence to back everything you're saying up.
	However, I'm wondering, you were going to talk about Fields' sister, right?
	Yes.
	And so I don't want to lose that thread.
	But I do want to come back to this notion of how you guys are able to talk about this The way you are.
	And I think, you know, I heard on a recent...
	I was listening to some of your other previous interviews, and you said you were involved in this for 11 1⁄2 years.
	I've been doing this now for 12 1⁄2, so we're very close in what we've been pursuing in the same time zone.
	But anyway...
	I'm wondering if, you know, how it is you're surviving and field.
	I mean, he's related to this woman.
	I've heard interviews with you.
	You guys mention her, but I don't understand the story.
	You know, it's very sporadic.
	Your references, they're all over the place.
	She seems to be involved in everything.
	Okay, I'll give you a little bio of Christine Marcy, shall I? Yes.
	Okay, in 1968 or 69 she joined the Office of Economic Opportunity.
	Her first three bosses were Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and Frank Carlucci.
	That's going right into the snake.
	I'm asking this young woman, how does she end up with three people that would play a critical role on 9-1-1?
	Now, we'll come to it later, but I think she's engaged in pedophile entrapment and blackmail, but I'll try and demonstrate how dangerous this woman is.
	So, in 1978-79, President Carter decides he's going to create an elite group of bureaucrats called the Senior Executive Service.
	So today, the American government is run by 9,000 of these characters, and they have They're civilians and they're appointed, they're not elected, but they have the status within the government of admirals and generals.
	So effectively you've got a peacetime paramilitary bureaucracy that is extraordinarily powerful because it's entwined within the government.
	So whatever Trump does, let's say he goes to the Department of Health and says, I want this done, there's several layers of bureaucrats who determine whether that will actually be carried out into action.
	Now, Christine Marcy was a founder member or a charter member of the Senior Executive Service.
	In fact, she could very well have been the founder.
	In 1984, with Eric Holder, she launches two programs.
	One is the Department of Justice Asset Forfeiture Fund, which has put billions of dollars into these dirty projects, including Conair, by confiscating from Suspected criminals.
	So if you're driving down the road with a Lamborghini and they, the local county sheriff or whatever, believe you can't justify the purchase of a Lamborghini, they can actually confiscate a Lamborghini and you can only get it back by suing the government.
	Well, if you're a real hood, you're going to let it go.
	You may actually have a very valuable A load of cocaine going down in a truck on that same highway and you're ready to sacrifice the Lamborghini because it's going to distract the attention of the local sheriff.
	The other thing she created in 1984 with Eric Holder was the database for the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
	Now think how powerful that is.
	That means they've got the computers, they've got the files, they're tracking children who for whatever reason have got separated.
	from the parents.
	Maybe the parents were in jail, maybe the parents were killed, etc.
	So you have the potential for a database with a reservoir of children that could be used for sexual entrapment and blackmail.
	Christine Marcy has got her stamp on both of those projects.
	She's got the money with the asset forfeiture fund, she's got the children as a resource for blackmail and extortion.
	Now in 1978, this is an extraordinary story, No, correction.
	In August of 1979, Christine Marcy is interviewed by a journalist by the name of Judy Mann, who's now dead, with the Washington Post.
	And Christine Marcy describes to her how wonderful she was because She got pregnant with the first child.
	She took her law degree.
	She had the baby and she was back at work the following day proving that she could do what men do without turning her hair.
	And it was full of a rather repulsive kind of self-congratulation because I think, well, I wonder what the poor little kid was when it separated from its mother that quickly.
	But that's by the by.
	Maybe I'm just being an old-fashioned male that doesn't really understand this whole process.
	But anyway, that girl, that little girl, is Jessica Marcy, who's Fields' niece.
	Now, so the conception was in November of 1978, and Jessica Marcy was born in August of 1979.
	So I checked on who was in Washington when this baby was conceived.
	And I think it was the grandson of Winston Churchill, a man called Nicholas Soames, the former UK Minister of Defence.
	And four or five or eight paragraphs down in this article in the Washington Post, I think it's headed something like, now you can be a professional and a mother.
	The journalist is Judy Mann, Washington Post, 1979, I think August the 10th or something like that.
	About nine paragraphs down when Christine Marcy is talking to Judy Mann about her child and how well she carried on work, instead of describing Jessica Marcy as McConnell's baby, which would be true if Christine Marcy was using her maiden name, or Marcy's baby if she was using her married name, I came across this phrase, Mendenhall's baby.
	I looked at that and I said, what on earth is this?
	No, I don't know if you're easily shocked, Kerry, but anyway, eventually I found out the urban dictionary slang for Mendenhall's baby, and I'm not responsible for it, and you can Google it, but anyway, I'll describe what it is.
	Mendenhalling someone means to mount someone from behind, roll them over To see the humiliation in their eyes, preferably in front of a big audience.
	I guess that's sick, isn't it?
	Right.
	Well, it sounds like an Illuminati ritual.
	You've got it.
	And so she said this on a public interview.
	Yes.
	Now, did Judith Mann insert it?
	Or did Christine Marcy say it inadvertently?
	But it's a phrase that is so unusual.
	I've never seen it anywhere else, anywhere.
	And I'd never heard of the term Mendenhall until I looked it up.
	But I think you've nailed it.
	I think in 1978, November, Nicholas Soames, the grandson of Winston Churchill, who was personal assistant to Senator Mark Hatfield, who would go on to become the Chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee, which I understand is very powerful.
	He's out in Washington.
	And so I did a quick check of the physiognomy of Nicholas Soames, who was the UK Minister of Defence, and Jessica Marcy.
	And I'm not an expert in physiognomies or whatever, but to me, Jessica Marcy looks like a dead ringer of Nicholas Soames, which would make Jessica Marcy the great-granddaughter of Winston Churchill.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Let me go fast forward to 1988 with Christine Marcy.
	She called her brother in 1988 and said, I've got a problem field because the airlines don't like shackling prisoners to the seat when they're going from Hawaii to the mainland.
	So I'm thinking about...
	She didn't tell Field that she had this stash of money in the Department of Asset Forfeiture Fund.
	But anyway, she went on.
	She bought her own airline, which is called Conair, the United States Justice Prisoner and Alien Transportation System, where Christine Marcy would be transporting the most dangerous men and women in the United States in and out of the country with a perfect alibi.
	Right.
	And these are also prisoners that go to places like Egypt, where they can be tortured.
	And so on.
	Or create a false flag attack.
	Right.
	Right?
	They can fly into Libya or Benghazi.
	Right?
	And these people, they're Arabs speaking the local language.
	They've been arrested for whatever reason in the United States.
	They could be deployed by Con Air.
	Right?
	Christine Mars' airline.
	They can go in and create a false flag attack.
	Then they can hop on a plane and they can be back in jail in the United States with a perfect alibi.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	So, is this organization current?
	Con Air?
	Yes, totally.
	It's the United States Justice Prisoner and Alien Transportation System.
	And now, here's the truly scary part about Christine Marcy.
	She developed a prisoner medical services program.
	And I think what she was doing, she was administering A hallucinogen.
	Sure.
	This is a cover for a mind control program.
	Two prisoners.
	So she wanted a group of prisoners to go and do a hit in New York on 9-1-1.
	Dress them in civilian clothes.
	They can get drugged up and they can go and put explosives in the elevator shafts of the Twin Towers.
	Before igniting, they hop on a plane and they go back to jail.
	They've got a perfect alibi.
	Sure.
	Absolutely.
	This is probably going on all the time.
	Correct.
	Okay, so just out of curiosity, is that the official name for it, Con Air?
	No, it's the nickname.
	Did you ever see the film with Nicholas Page, is it, or Cage?
	Right.
	Yeah, I mean, well, there's been several different kinds of films, including the one recently with the...
	But that one, you see, there's an article in the San Diego Chronicle Where there was talk of Conair, which was the name of the film, being released.
	And Christine Marcy is quoted, where the marshals are frowning on this.
	And she's quoted as saying, our prisoners do not kick or spit.
	Well, it's hardly surprising because she has the potential to administer drugs to them.
	It'll kill them.
	Or, as Fields said, if you've got a problem of a plane, just drone it.
	And of course, she droned aircraft for Conair in the event there was a prisoner mutiny, but in so doing, she learned the technology necessary for 9-1-1.
	Okay, but what is her actual job at this time?
	She's retired.
	Oh, really?
	But you don't retire from a position like that.
	Right.
	Because she knows where all the skeletons are.
	Sure, but what was her last...
	She has access to the database for children.
	She's got access to the database for...
	They confiscated assets with all the money.
	She was the one who privatized the National Visa Center in 1994 and parachuted in five members of her friends in the Senior Executive Service and 500 employees of Serco who cleared Bin Laden's sleeper cells into the country for the 9-1-1 attack.
	Right.
	Now, So, do you know what her last title was?
	Yes, she was Chief Operating Officer of the Small Business Administration on 9-1-1 after giving up her gig as Senior Counsel for the Detention and Deportation Program of the Marshal Service or Immigration and Naturalization.
	So, after stopping flying extremely dangerous people in and around the country, she joins The Small Business Administration, as Chief Operating Officer, the administrator steps down, I think her name was Ada Alvarez, in January of 2001, and effectively Christine Marcy takes over.
	Now what that meant was that in January of 2001, Christine Marcy had control over a $70 billion loan portfolio, 250,000 small businesses, And the ability to liquidate any one of them.
	Now, that's an extraordinary power.
	Right, absolutely.
	Those small businesses will have been working with the four big defense contractors, right?
	And effectively, the four big defense contractors, as far as 911 was concerned, was obviously Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, and Raytheon.
	So they've got this group of Protégés, as they're called under the small business program, where they're obliged to set aside a certain amount of money for the small business protégés because of their ethnicity, their sexual orientation, or whatever.
	So I hope you understand I'm being facetious, but if you are an owner of a company and you're a black one-legged lesbian, you're almost bound to get a loan.
	If you're an old two-legged white heterosexual, you're not going to get a loan.
	Because that program has been entirely infiltrated for the supposedly disadvantaged.
	Yeah, well, that's kind of an interesting thing.
	There's also something going on with immigration, you know, forced immigration out of the Middle East into England, into Europe, And why they are doing that.
	It's really quite fascinating, that story.
	Are you guys following that at all?
	Yes, totally, because the 8A companies, as they're called, that received these special offset arrangements, so the big defense contractors, if you look at the countries or the ethnicity of the people who are owning, so you have Pakistanis, you have Indians, you have Vietnamese, you have the Chinese, etc., etc.
	You have all of the Countries of origin, which historically have been, you know, under the communist sway and been at war with the United States, etc.
	They're actually being invited in and Boeing is forced to take them on as protégés.
	On 9-1-1, for example, the Boeing headquarters in Washington state had moved to Chicago.
	So Boeing obviously had a key role to play on the hijacking of those planes.
	Well...
	Yeah, just because we have a witness, Henry Deacon, and I don't know if you're familiar with him, but he's a whistleblower, and he was one of our first, actually, whistleblowers.
	And he basically talked about how he worked for a certain company that I can't even name it today...
	But in essence, that he was working on 9-11.
	And I think I can say he was working for the British on 9-11.
	And so this is quite extraordinary because That does get into the whole Boeing.
	They were figuring out autopilots, as you're talking about.
	He probably knows exactly what you're talking about when you talk about the Boeing, that autopilot that you talk about.
	Uninterruptible audit, yeah.
	Yes, and so on.
	So, you know, I can back that up, I guess what I'm saying, with one of my witnesses from, you know, this is from, you know, 11 years ago in Project Camelot, and he's gone to ground, as they say, at this time.
	So, but, you know, and he's often...
	He held on a very tight leash.
	But I have flown him over and he has spoken at one of my conferences, etc.
	Well, the interesting thing about how the meta-command system of the United States was handed off to the British.
	For example, the key supplier of command, control, communications, computers, intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance to Boeing is SACA. Right.
	Well, that's a disaster for the security of the United States because it's not even as if Serco is the British government, where nominally Britain and the United States are allies.
	This is a private company controlled by a cartel of banks.
	And here's the rub.
	The investment banker for Serco is N.M. Rothschilds& Sons.
	The investment banker for Donald Trump is N.M. Rothschilds& Sons.
	The investment banker for the Queen of England, or Queen of the United Kingdom, is N.M. Rothschilds& Sons.
	That's a very important link.
	You know, because a lot of people try to trace...
	What Donald Trump is doing, which appears to be some positive things, and he's also, I think, has a war within his administration.
	I was thinking that actually there seemed to be evidence of a recent coup against his administration.
	To do with the whole bombing, you know, his reversal of saying he was going to take troops out of Syria and then suddenly the next day the complete reversal.
	That indicates to me a military coup of some kind behind the scenes where actually possibly even a rogue military attack on Syria in which Donald Trump has no choice But to save face, because you can't go before the American public and say, by the way, we're having a coup right now.
	They're attempting to take my government away from me.
	Because there would be rioting in the streets.
	So basically he goes along with the agenda.
	And then what we also notice about that is that strategically they did bomb, but apparently it was sort of cosmetic only.
	It wasn't actually, they didn't really do the kind of bombing that, you know, it was kind of, You know, knocked up to be, so to speak, from what I understand.
	Now, have you followed that and do you have anything to add to that?
	Well, yes, I mean, and I'm not sure that my opinion and Field McConnell's opinion, we agree on that.
	I remember that when in the campaign, the 2016 campaign up here in BC, I was taking bets with my friends that Donald Trump would become president because I could see the energy and the technique, the internet techniques and Twitter techniques he used.
	And Hillary is just such a disgusting, you know, washed up candidate.
	Anyway, I won my bets.
	But then In my mind, I was saying, well, Donald Trump, whatever his weaknesses and strengths, he will be a great disruptor.
	And what Washington needed was disruption.
	Because all of these embedded kickbacks and pork barreling and earmarking projects are so deeply ingrained in the government, it would take a huge effort to rip it out, you know, from just a crime scene investigation point of view.
	The problem for Donald Trump is he's...
	He's had a lifestyle that would make him, at least from the British point of view, exceedingly vulnerable to entrapment and blackmail.
	For example, building hotels and casinos down the East Coast, he has to be dealing with a mob.
	Sure, no doubt about it.
	His taste in young women, well, you know, all I can say is, He seems to be very successful in attracting young women.
	But again, from a black male point of view, it would be presumably quite straightforward to find a woman who was young enough to attract Trump and then black men.
	I can't prove that.
	But you see, the problem is in the 1990s or 1980s, he was borrowing more than he should usefully have borrowed.
	So I believe at the beginning of the 1990s, He and his companies were $4 billion in debt.
	That's a huge amount of money.
	Right.
	And the cartel of bankers that was lending him money were led by Citibank.
	So he was in danger of going bankrupt.
	So lo and behold, he calls in, I believe, Wilbur Ross, the present commerce secretary, who spent 25 years with N.M. Rothschild, and asks Wilbur Ross to restructure his debts.
	But if I was a lender to Donald Trump, you know, heading up a cartel of bankers, let's say in Citibank, and Donald Trump or his holdings owed us $4 billion, I'd say, okay, Donald, we'll roll over your debt and we'll put you in the White House and you can pay us back when you're president.
	Right.
	Well, I have a witness, Captain Mark Richards, who's been in jail for 30 years, framed for a murder he didn't commit.
	I've been the only journalist willing to interview him, and I've now interviewed him eight times.
	I'm about to release my eighth interview.
	In that interview, he says that Donald Trump started out as sort of a mediocre millionaire And ended up right before he ran for president as, you know, having way, well, you know, being well, way richer than that.
	So there is a group behind him, you know, that have substantial resources, saying that there's a link between, you know, that Rothschild is basically invested in him, certainly says a lot.
	Again, though, it does appear, if the information we get is true, that he is, you know, doing certain things like arresting pedophiles or attempting to carry off tribunals off the shore in ships so they can use maritime law.
	And so on.
	Now, of course, the real pedophiles aren't going to be brought to so-called justice anyway, but this is some kind of show of something.
	There is also, you know, yeah, there's a certain amount of energy there.
	There's also something going on.
	As I say...
	With regard to the military and him, on one side, he does seem backed by a certain portion of the military, and that seemed to be the Navy, predominantly, from my understanding.
	And the other thing is what appeared to be some kind of challenge to him very recently with the Syrian bombing.
	And I think that he is very vulnerable, from what I understand.
	So...
	You know, and I have more information I'm going to be releasing about that, at least from my witness who's in quite a position to know certain things behind the scenes.
	So, just wanted to go down that road a bit with you.
	You know, we can't quite say.
	I do see that there is a very interesting video talking about How he looks just like General Patton, that he may be a reincarnation of Patton.
	It's possible.
	And there's no doubt in my mind that we reincarnate.
	So this is what you look for.
	You look for people, you look the same, regardless of when you reincarnate, to a male or female body, in fact.
	With those kinds of things that are different depending on the hormones and things.
	So, if you look at history and you look at him and why he got into the position he's in, and then you look at the fact that he could be this individual, you see, this is the kind of thing the Illuminati know about.
	They will trace bloodlines.
	They will trace people who are incarnating, etc., and all of that.
	So, you know, just throwing that out here.
	Mm-hmm.
	So in terms of your research and where you and Field are going at this point, I understand you try to go through like official channels in a sense, you know, writing a letter to somebody, like you're saying, is it David Kelly?
	John Kelly.
	John Kelly.
	David Kelly is the microbiologist or whatever who was killed in England.
	Right.
	That's a whole can of worms.
	Did you ever get into the Marconi scientists and the deaths?
	Because that's technology that might be up your alley.
	Going back, the Marconi story is fascinating because going back to the Titanic, the founder of Radio Corporation of America, David Sarnoff, in the 1922 period, in 1911 when the Titanic sank and hit the iceberg, He was on the Marconi Telegraph in New York.
	And he says he was communicating with the Titanic.
	But apparently there were about, I think, eight to nine hundred ships in the North Atlantic that by then had been equipped with the Marconi Telegraph.
	And the Titanic is alleged to have received a signal to change course 20 minutes before it hit the iceberg.
	And had it not changed course, it would have missed the iceberg.
	So it appeared that it was called in and then there was an insurance policy on the Titanic that paid off royally.
	Subsequent to World War I, the Americans stole the Marconi patents and they were folded into RCA with David Sarnoff.
	So there would have been a lot of tension between the Brits and the Americans about the theft of those patents, but RCA It started a branch in the United Kingdom called RCAGB in 1929, GB for Great Britain, 1929 when it was incorporated, and RCAGB in 1929 would become CERCO. Oh really?
	Oh that's really, okay, that's very good.
	Well, that actually gets into the whole Gulf oil spill, the Falklands War, and the artificial intelligent black goo that was found, and then supposedly they dumped Core Exit trying to...
	I guess get it to stop eating the bottom of the boats and all of that stuff that went on with all of that.
	Again, you didn't actually answer my question.
	I mean, I know I'm asking a lot of questions here that couch together, but whether you guys have ever started to investigate the trail that goes to Antarctica?
	No, no, we haven't.
	I don't know of any projects that we have looking at Antarctica.
	Okay, well, I think that's a real hotbed.
	And I'm told, again, by one of my witnesses that there is a very, and of course, people know about this when John Kerry went down there right during the election, kind of an interesting time to leave the ship, so to speak.
	And there are other historical links to people during wartime going down to Antarctica as well.
	Interesting times that I investigated.
	So there's definitely something there and appears to be a lot of link-ups with the American administration.
	They're going back and forth, apparently, quite a bit.
	And the British are very much involved in Antarctica, as are the Russians.
	And that links up to technology.
	So if you're interested in technology, It'd be great if you would take a look at that.
	Sure.
	Now, I know that I had promised to go with your timeline here.
	I guess we're over the initial time you said you were going to give me.
	Oh, well, I can give you as much as you want now because we postponed from 1 o'clock.
	Oh, really?
	Okay.
	Excellent.
	I'm happy to stay with you as long as you can bear to be with me.
	No, it's, you know, you're, you're a fount of knowledge and you've got so many great details as well to do with all of this.
	So, so can you talk a little bit more about sort of the directions you've been going?
	Because it's been a lot of years.
	I know you were excellent investigators into a lot of the, you know, the, the planes that keep, you know, falling out of the sky.
	And now, I think since then, we've got a lot of the false flag things going on.
	Is there any particular area of investigation you guys are looking at?
	And I do want to ask you whether or not you use this.
	There's a certain software program that you use that links all these things up with each other.
	And...
	I'm sorry to know the name of it, but it's a great software program and they sell it in business schools and, you know, people learn how to use it there.
	But basically it does, you know, where in the old days they would say a conspiracy theorist would have on their wall, you know, They do this in every movie, right?
	And then you draw, like, you take yarn or whatever, and you draw this one's connected to that one, and that one's connected to that one.
	Well, there's a software program that obviously does that now.
	And it's a great tool.
	There's a certain, I'm forgetting his name, but...
	I interviewed him.
	There's a guy who's used a lot for diagramming out this incredible relationship between corporations, individuals, etc.
	in the whole sort of running the world scenario.
	So are you using that?
	Actually, it's a very interesting question, Kerry.
	And I think...
	The approach we've taken at Abel Danger borrows from my past work when I was working in artificial intelligence with Schlumberger, because just like a crime scene, an oil field, you have geologists, petrophysicists, geophysicists, and so on.
	They all have the views on what the data means, and quite often they come up with an interpretation which contradicts another expert.
	And the great problem for the directors of the oil company is to sort out from all of the experts' opinion what is true and what is false, when only one answer can be right.
	And you see, it's a very interesting question because it's the same problem for President Trump at the moment in the United States, and it's outrageous that it's been allowed to continue.
	As I understand it, you have 18 quasi-independent intelligence agencies.
	Most civilized countries, I say civilized parenthetically, they have two, you know, a domestic and an international.
	And I'm saying it's oxymoronic.
	18 intelligence agents cannot possibly be intelligent.
	And as far as Trump is concerned, which of those intelligence agencies should he listen to?
	Now, I'm saying, and I have no money in the pot, if that's the right word, I'm saying, as far as your foreign intelligence is concerned, go to one, which is the Marine Corps intelligence activities.
	My instincts tell me that the most loyal and capable people outside of the United States, as far as intelligence is concerned, is the Marine Corps.
	Domestically, well, you need to fire all of the senior executive service people in the FBI, probably put a few of the top FBI people in jail, and basically go down into the engine room and find the really serious crime scene investigators.
	Anyway, that's kind of by the by.
	You asked me about what kind of software I use.
	Well, I use the software that I invented.
	As under the label, the deductive computing machine.
	And I implemented the deductive computing machine for Brit Oil in Glasgow.
	And it actually provides a reasoning system that looks at the truth values of geophysical interpretation.
	The same software, the same techniques can apply to a crime scene.
	And if you remember at the beginning, I talked about For example, Kennedy's skull, the fragment flying out of the back of his skull, meaning the bullet must have come from the front because physics don't allow, you know, that behavior.
	The towers, the twin towers, sending 10-ton girders into parabolic arcs means that they didn't drop through gravity.
	So, time and time again at these crime scenes, you can apply the simple laws of physics to the software programs that I've developed back in the 80s to test for the truth values at a crime scene.
	So, too many people look at a crime scene and say, good or bad, or guilty or innocent.
	What they should be asking is true or false.
	So, at this false flag, you know, we've just had some guy Drive along a pavement or sidewalk in Toronto and kill, I think, ten people.
	And he was in a rented rider truck.
	So the papers are full of, you know, how the public couldn't possibly put this because he wasn't on the terrorist database.
	And I'm saying, hey, there's something similar.
	To major, major crimes in the United States, a rented rider truck was used to put the explosives in the World Trade Center in 1993.
	A rented rider truck was used to blow up the Murrow Building, where these animals even put a bomb under the daycare center.
	So I'm saying to Americans who are inviting you to consider, and that's the way Able Danger is looking at right now, let's take a look at the possibility that this company, Serco, Which describes itself as a third-party logistics supplier to government, has actually got inside the supply chains of the police and the military in the United States and the United Kingdom and is setting up false flag attacks by moving prisoners or ex-cons or parolees or drugged-up patsies
	and equipping them with a weapon, which could be a truck, that could be, nowadays, you can actually guide the truck remotely, just like a plane.
	Absolutely.
	Well, and, you know, excuse me, but I always wonder, if I saw a truck barreling towards me, I think I would get out of the way.
	It depends on the speed you've got.
	And of course, you don't expect it.
	You might have your back to the truck.
	And obviously, these people didn't have time.
	Right.
	It's just, you know, what is the point?
	This thing with trucks, it's really an obsession because there's so many incidents, events, whatever you want to call them, you know, the one in Germany, the one in Paris, always with trucks.
	Running into crowds of people.
	What is the point?
	Well, the point is...
	It's not like we're going to outlaw trucks the way they do outlaw guns.
	No, no, no.
	But you see, Serco in the United Kingdom and in Australia and New Zealand has been awarded an outsourced contract to transport prisoners, just like Christine Marcy with JPATs.
	So if you are in a position to administer psychotropic drugs to your prisoners, you can create a reservoir of talent For any kind of hit you want.
	Let's take the John Bonnet Ramsey murder.
	That's a three-page ransom note.
	The level of brutality visited on that poor little girl is quite extraordinary.
	Those were psychopaths.
	Now, why wouldn't they have been let out of jail in Canada, flown down to Boulder, Colorado, to do the hit?
	The ransom note was written with $118,000, which exactly equals the bonus paid to John Ramsey By Lockheed Martin, through the Holy Own subsidiary Access Graphics.
	So that was a message, I believe, to John Ramsey.
	Now, the two directors of Lockheed Martin, who would have known the bonus, the amount of the bonus paid to John Ramsey's Christmas bonus, which was $118,000, is very important because one was Lynn Cheney and the other one was Norman Mineta.
	That's, you know, that's extraordinary that it was exactly the same amount of money.
	Correct.
	That's no coincidence, obviously.
	There's no coincidence.
	You see, so they knew what the people who were controlling Lockheed Martin were.
	They knew that Lockheed Martin had a major role in the upgrades of the Pentagon under the PenRen project, including the upgrade of the part that was taken out in 9-1-1.
	And what they needed to do was to get hold of the command and control systems in the Pentagon's U.S. Navy Command Center, And fool it with a friend signal.
	So Captain Gerald DeConto, who is the duty officer of the Pentagon's US Navy Command Center, he was on the phone or the secure communications link to Gordon England, the Secretary of the Navy, begging for permission to release the missile batteries on the roof of the Pentagon.
	Gordon England stalled it.
	Right?
	And the weapon that hit the Pentagon It punched a hole through eight walls, and in the inner courtyard, there's a 14-foot diameter hole.
	That was a bunker buster bomb, Kerry.
	That wasn't a large passenger jet.
	Yeah, well, I'd heard it was a missile.
	Well, yeah, it was a low-level attack bomber that dropped a missile that went right through that building, and the schoolmate or Naval Academy classmate of Field McConnell, Captain Chick Burlingham, His plane was skyjacked and flown electronically into a drop zone over the Atlantic.
	And behind his plane, the larger plane, was a drone that peeled off and did that tight acrobatic turn to take out the Pentagon's US Navy Command Center.
	And I'm saying to Americans, please, just look at the strategic targets on 9-1-1.
	You've got your financial capitals, the two towers.
	By the time the dust settled in New York, the backup computers in London had picked up all that business.
	You've got the military target, which is the Pentagon's US Navy Command Center, which decapitated the Navy.
	Effectively, the commander-in-chief, George Bush, has been displaced into an elementary school.
	He calls up Condoleezza, I'll come to Condoleezza Rice in a minute, but he calls, he says to Condoleezza Rice, I'm coming back to Washington.
	You know what she does?
	She hangs up on him.
	Now, Condoleezza Rice, there's a photograph of Dick Cheney looking scared to death between two very dangerous women in the Presidential Emergency Operating Center on the morning of 9-1-1, and on his left is Condoleezza Rice, And on his right is Dick Cheney's wife, Lynn Cheney.
	Those two women had effectively taken control of the government.
	They're both Phi Beta Kappa.
	I don't know if you're familiar with the Greek life fraternities and sororities, but the two senior fraternities, sororities in the United States, they were both formed in 1776, which is quite an important year for the United States, right?
	One is Phi Beta Kappa, and the other is Kappa Beta Phi.
	And Phi Beta Kappa is considered to be the intellectual elite, and Phi Beta Kappa has 17 US presidents, 38 Supreme Court judges, and over 100 Nobel Prize winners.
	And my argument would be, if those people are taking rituals or oath ceremonies, where they're being blackmailed effectively, the British, 1776, took control of the United States through one of its secret societies.
	The other secret society, Kappa Beta Phi, that's where all the bankers are.
	So there's only one chapter of Kappa Beta Phi left.
	It's the Wall Street chapter.
	And Wilbur Ross, the Commerce Secretary, 25 years with N.M. Rothschild, He's described as, in 2016, the grand swipe.
	Well, in English, that means you're a great thiever, stealer, swiping someone's money.
	So you've got these two Greek life societies.
	You've got the bankers and the intellectual elite, both controlled by Britain through, I believe, blackmail and extortion.
	Well, there was also the Boston bombing that was a clear shot across the bower.
	Again, it does seem like Britain is often, and actually to get to the Vegas situation, the Mandalay Bay, there is a link up there also with the British, you know, being involved in that.
	There's another, also the, it's not, it's like, not Sandy Hook, but although it might involve Sandy Hook, there's another thing that went on in New York right around that time, in which some major money was moved.
	And I'm forgetting the name of that particular incident.
	And apparently I had a remote viewer that was reporting to me that there was definitely information that led to the way the symbolism of the streets involved and the place involved.
	And the movement of money, et cetera, et cetera.
	And it also related to Britain.
	In other words, Britain is often throwing its weight around America, basically trying to say, for all intents and purposes, that they run the place.
	And America is often sort of fighting back in some weird ways.
	So that's an interesting relationship they have.
	Oh, totally.
	And the first superintendent of the United States Patent and Trademark Office was Dr.
	William Thornton, who designed the Capitol building.
	And he was an Anglo-American in 1802.
	And I don't think the British ever relinquished control of the American Patent Office, because if you control the Patent Office, you control the country.
	Right.
	So, for example...
	Well, I mean, I think you could get into Tesla and what went on with him, because those are the most important patents that probably ever, you know, had anything to do with anything, at least for many, many years.
	And Tesla's role and how he was taken offline, so to speak, and forced to build certain weapons systems, etc.
	Yes, RCA was described...
	By its founder, David Sarnoff, is a radio patent monopoly company.
	So when it changed its name in England to Serco, I believe one day we'll be able to prove, that's one of the things Abel D'Age attempts to do, is that the MO for Pearl Harbor is identical to 911.
	That is to say that the American defenses were stood down by the British.
	In the case of Pearl Harbor, of course, the objective was to bring America into the war.
	And in the case of 9-1-1, it was to, I believe, knock New York off as a potential competitor to London as a world capital center.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	Well, it certainly also had to do with the Patriot Act and taking away most of our freedoms here in the United States.
	Right.
	If I may, I just would like to mention him, Christopher.
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	What I'll do is I'll look in the chat while we're waiting to see what people are saying and then again...
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	In the meanwhile, hopefully he will try to call me back.
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	Hello, Carrie.
	Can you hear me?
	Yes, now I can.
	Okay, I don't know what happened there.
	Yeah, I think, well, I do think we were interfered with there.
	So it's great to have you back.
	Thank you.
	You were about to say something about Christine, I believe.
	Okay, excellent.
	So I think many Americans will be concerned about the failure of the FBI to identify the principles behind the 911 attack and subsequent attacks.
	Well, I think 9-1-1 was a false flag, and I think we can prove that now, and Serco played a major role in that.
	But anyway, after 9-1-1, an organization called the National Academy of Public Administration, which is the premier think tank in Washington that often receives commissions from Congress to work on projects, started on a project that they called the Transformation of the FBI, The secretary for that project was the president of the National Academy or former president of the National Academy Public Administration, Christine Marcy, Phil McCollum's sister.
	And it's the most extraordinary document.
	And then it was introduced by Robert Muller.
	And what the bureaucrats had recommended was that law enforcement and crime scene investigation was less important than thwarting subsequent terrorist attacks.
	So they actually moved 5,000 FBI agents, I don't know how many they've got, away from law enforcement and crime scene investigation to thwarting terrorist attacks.
	Well, they've done a pretty lousy job.
	Well, that's an understatement.
	And I do want to clarify here because it is interesting to call 9-11 a false flag.
	I did a whole video basically about the false flag, the attack of YouTube on my channel, unilaterally deciding that I was guilty of various things because I interviewed these people about false flags.
	But I did state that a false flag is actually state-sponsored terrorism.
	A lot of people hear the words false flag.
	They get the wrong impression as to what that means.
	And people can still die in a false flag.
	I think it's important to state that.
	It doesn't mean they always die, but certainly they can die and have died.
	But it is a state-sponsored terrorist act.
	with the idea of basically getting the public, getting a country or the public or both to basically fall into and follow orders to do what Pearl Harbor was all getting a country or the public or both to basically fall into and follow orders to do what Pearl Harbor was all about So 9-11 had a method to its madness and it was orchestrated.
	There's no doubt about it.
	And that's what we really mean when we're saying false flags.
	Do you want to augment that?
	Well, it's very interesting because coming back to Serco, Serco has a contract at a place called Hawkehills in the United Kingdom with the United Kingdom Cabinet Office.
	And it's what they call resilience emergency planning.
	And what the United Kingdom...
	I mean, they're as dumb as a bag of hammers as this.
	They've said to Serco, why don't you create simulated false flag attacks?
	And we'll lend you our government communication systems, and you can test us to see how well we respond.
	So, for example, Serco can stage an exercise During the London underground bombing, when the exercise called for pretend bombs to go off at all the places the real bombs went off.
	So you can see the danger.
	They've actually hijacked the government communication system as they did in the United States on 9-1-1.
	They're in the middle of an exercise.
	So 98% of the people participating in the exercise are doing what they've been doing twice a year since 1947.
	They're pretending to be the red attack team or pretending to be the blue team, unaware that the technology, back to technosight, has been backdoored.
	So the Circo controllers can look at these planes as they're participating in the exercise and see if there's a vulnerability, and I'll explain when that vulnerability occurs, when the blue team defenders, the American blue team defenders stand down.
	Now, Phil McConnell has explained this to me because he's been in multiple practice dogfights and that sort of thing.
	He said at the end of a war game, the red team wins if it gets within three minutes of target.
	And the blue team wins if it keeps the red team out of three minutes of target.
	So then there's what is known as a war game maestro who broadcasts over all channels when there's a victory, stand down, go home, right?
	And that means...
	The red team and the blue team are both supposed to stand down, go home and have a drink and then debrief about what they learned, right?
	But the Canadian red team attackers on 9-1-1 knew that when the maestro said stand down, the blue team would stand down.
	And then they switched the droned aircraft to Into autopilot with the coordinates of the target, and that's why they were able to take those targets out with great precision.
	The fourth plane, United 93, was going to hit the Capitol building, but it was 41 minutes late.
	Now, Phil McConnell is somewhat cryptic.
	He says that he knows how you could have imputed a 41 minute delay in that aircraft, but had it not had a 41 minutes delay, Kerry, It would have hit the Capitol building at the same time as the Pentagon's U.S. Navy Command Center, killing all of the Congress and Senators, and America would have been decapitated, and you and I wouldn't be having this conversation now.
	Fascinating.
	Right.
	No doubt about it.
	So the idea, almost without exception, there are training exercises.
	And of course, those exercises, war games, whatever you want to call them, were happening during 9-11 and are supposed to be the big excuse as to why they didn't scramble jets, etc., etc.
	And this is going on constantly behind every event that involves a so-called terrorist you know attack around the world there are training exercises happening at the same time and of course this is what I wanted to say is in May there was an article today I don't know if I can bring it up quickly basically stating there's a major they're going to be turning off
	the power in a major part of the United States For a certain part of May, the month of May, of certain period of days in which a supposed exercise is happening.
	So this is a perfect time for a false flag, what we call setting the scene.
	So from now on, of course, ever since 9-11, investigators into these so-called terrorist events, which are government-state-sponsored terrorism in my view, always look for training exercises.
	That's the first thing they look at to find evidence of the state-sponsored terrorism, these teams that you're talking about.
	Right.
	Was there a question there?
	I'm sorry.
	Well, I mean, you're explaining about the particular teams.
	I think, you know, bringing all of this forward is really, really important because people don't realize what's going on.
	Certainly the technologies behind it.
	There's also, you know, a big AI component To all of this and a financial component.
	So you are in a unique position with your background to take a look at that.
	Yeah, I can see the signature, you see, because what's curious is they always have a script ready before the crime occurs.
	They have to.
	Right.
	Because all of the actors are in place.
	You know, they're supposed to read.
	So Jane Stanley of the BBC... In New York on 9-1-1 at about 5 o'clock in the afternoon, she's reading from her script and reporting to a news anchor back in London, and she says, we are getting news that the Salomon Smith Barney building has come down.
	Unfortunately for Jane Stanley and the BBC, you can see the building, and this is live, over her left shoulder, it's still standing.
	So the SWAT team, irresponsible for blowing the building up, It got its timing out of sync with the news reading.
	So they pulled the feed.
	Then there's another bit, I think it's Fox News, and there's a black woman and two white men.
	They're obviously getting a similar feed that the Salomon Smith Barney building, which is building number seven, incidentally, is coming down.
	And again, you can see the building over the left shoulder, I think, of the black woman.
	Her color is immaterial.
	But I just think it was so amusing.
	And then the building on Fox News, it actually comes down.
	And the white guy says, oh, it's coming.
	No, the woman says, oh, it's coming down now.
	And the white guy says, you know, this is like a holiday, a Hollywood movie.
	And I'm saying, duh.
	This is special effects, right?
	Oh, God, yeah.
	So it's a very sophisticated.
	And Dr.
	Thomas Barnett of the Naval War College says, Who was one of the prime gamers for the 9-1-1 attack.
	He said 9-1-1 was the first live broadcast mass snuff film in human history.
	When I saw that for the first time, it's about 10 years ago, I said, you little scumbag, right?
	You knew, right?
	You let your fellow Americans die and you could have stopped it and you could have blown the whistle subsequently.
	So if I may, can I just do a little brainstorming?
	Because I have a dream, Kerry, about how we can stop this.
	I'm thinking that able danger, like a catalyst, because we've done a lot of work, we think we understand pretty well the MO of these people.
	I'm thinking that we could identify community-based crowdfunding folks In every community where an attack of this type has taken place, where people in that community, like the barber who cut my hair just off Dealey Plaza in 1964, and he said everyone in Dallas knows that there were multiple sniper teams, the community knows what happened.
	What they don't have is the vehicle to transmit the dots and connect them to the general public because they've been isolated and marginalized and just chopped up.
	So I'm thinking, why don't we, and perhaps I can enlist your help on that, Why don't people like you, who makes documentary film, you could act as a catalyst and identify a community like the Orlando nightclub or the Las Vegas system, and we get the local people to serve as actors and extras and film crews and crowdfunding.
	And we develop the techniques that we've, I think, perfected at Able Danger of looking at the weapon before worrying about the opportunity, which has to be worried about eventually, And forgetting the motive, because the moment you say, well, very often I'm asked the question, well, why would they do that?
	And I say, well, I don't know at the moment.
	But first of all, we know we should know how they did it.
	Like if those planes on 911 were skyjacked and flown through remote control, it wasn't some clown in a cave in Afghanistan.
	It would be a high-tech group within the American government and the Canadian government.
	Absolutely, yes.
	So I think, why wouldn't we have people like yourself and other talk show hosts who are hunting for the truth, who are being marginalized, why wouldn't we act as catalysts and encourage every community that has suffered, you know, like 9-1-1 or Las Vegas and these people up in Toronto, to create a community-based production company, to make a documentary, Right?
	Using deductive techniques of the kind that I developed over the years and solve the crime with a film that could generate significant money for the community.
	It's a good idea.
	The trouble that we have, and this was my question, you know, a lot of these school incidences, like the recent one, I guess at Parkland School, I think it's what it's called, you know, is really very important because I'm always fascinated by how the kids in these communities are kept quiet and Because you see snippets of where they're saying something quite honest accidentally
	to the news people in the mainstream.
	And then pretty soon they're shut up and that storyline gets covered over by certain students that are picked out.
	And, you know, James Fetzer has been on my show.
	Obviously, this is why I got in a problem with YouTube.
	Really saying certain students that were being, you know, that were related to people that had a vested interest in seeing the thing carried out and so on.
	In other words...
	What is it about these communities that keeps these people from shutting up?
	Because in Vegas, for example, there's plenty of evidence.
	They went around to the hospitals and they said there have been no, you know, injured people admitted to those local hospitals.
	Right.
	So where are the so-called injured people?
	Let me give you an example of the famous pig farm serial killing.
	Up here in British Columbia, I don't know if you've heard about it, the Picton Pig Farm.
	From 1996 to 2002, probably about a hundred prostitutes, mainly First Nations, were taken from the downtown east side.
	They were taken out to a pig farm, which was a federally registered charity or society, and they were slaughtered in front of an audience of up to 2,000 people.
	That's just incredible.
	And the one guy in jail, Willie Picton, I mean, he's a retard.
	No offense to retards.
	He's just a rather slow character.
	And he's accused of killing all these women.
	But the jury said, we can't find premeditation and preplanning.
	And this was very obviously a sophisticated movement to take people out to the pig farm and entrap them and blackmail them.
	There's a fridge full of body parts.
	They were having barbecues.
	They were eating these people.
	Oh, for God's sake.
	Right?
	There was a wood chipper there.
	Right?
	It's a scene of appalling cruelty.
	And here's what I think happened.
	I've been studying this for a long time.
	And this comes back to the community needs to make a film.
	I believe they set out a test facility at the pig farm where they would shoot a bullet, one of these biologic bullets, into the women.
	And then take bets on how long she'd live up on the stage.
	Right.
	There was a raid on the 20th of August of 1999 on an outfit called Starnet Communications, which was a very advanced technology outfit.
	And what they were doing, they were selling over the internet extreme sadomasochistic sex, child pornography and online gaming.
	There was a hundred law enforcement people showed up.
	They took away all the kit.
	I can't find out where it went, but there were two teams sent from the United States, one customs and one the IRS, and I think Christine Marcy sent them.
	And you can imagine the people going to that pig farm was 1700.
	They would have been filmed doing the most disgusting things to their fellow human beings, and they would be terrified of ever having those images shown to their friends and family.
	They'd rather commit suicide.
	Now, there's a guy, a former FBI counterintelligence guy called Oliver Buck Revell, R-E-V-E-L-L, Revell.
	He started working with the FBI in 1964, and he left in 1994, so he had a 30-year career, and he took his son and daughter-in-law off the tarmac before they boarded Pan Am 103, and it was blown up over Lockerbie.
	Right.
	He had foreknowledge.
	He's introduced a company called Imagist Technologies in Vancouver, and that does face recognition, working with the National Crime Squad in the United Kingdom to track pedophiles.
	So roundabout, I'm coming.
	The reason why many of these people don't speak up is I believe they've either been tracked through Facebook, Doing something they shouldn't do, or they've been photoshopped into Facebook, so it looks like they did something they shouldn't do with a chart.
	Right.
	And it's an extraordinarily efficient way of shutting people up.
	And remember, 80 million profiles were stolen on Facebook, and I think they were stolen by this guy, Oliver Buck Revell, and it's being used to extort or blackmail people who might otherwise speak up, or forcing people to do something that they don't want to do.
	Yeah, that's an interesting angle for sure.
	Well, we know they do this to Congress people.
	And we know the government people in Britain, you know, lords and all this kind of thing.
	And Bill Clinton.
	You know, he flies to this damn island with Jeffrey Epstein.
	They called it Orgy Island.
	Hillary Clinton goes as well.
	There are underage girls servicing the women and the men.
	The film is being taken, and I don't know if you saw it recently, extraordinary phrase, they said, the Epstein Island has burnt to the ground.
	Well, how do you burn an island to the ground?
	Do you remember the fire in Trump Tower?
	That's a warning to Trump.
	I think on 9-1-1, they said to Donald Trump, look, Donald, we're going to take out a few towers in New York.
	Do you want to be one of them or do you want to play along with us?
	So what's Trump to believe?
	Because there is a Trump video, a video of Trump soon after 9-1-1, where he says there had to be explosives in the building.
	Duh!
	Of course there were explosives in the building.
	So why hasn't he investigated?
	Well, yeah, of course.
	I mean, it just, it goes on and on.
	Now, I am going to have to close this down because we've been going for starting to be over two hours and people's attention span for these videos is not much longer than that.
	If that long, which is on a good day.
	So, but, you know, it's been fabulous having you on the show.
	We've covered really a great gamut of stuff.
	You know, you're welcome back anytime.
	And if you have, if Field would like to also join you, if the two of you want to come on together, that's fine.
	We can arrange that.
	And I know that the audience has been...
	I have a chat room alongside here, and the chat has been going nonstop.
	I'm afraid we don't really have time for questions, but there's a lot more to go into.
	I would like to have you back to talk about AI in detail, and also your take on the crypto, the whole scene with the financial system.
	The cryptos, etc.
	If we could do that, because you must have a take on all of that.
	Yes, yes.
	I wouldn't invest in anything I don't understand.
	I sometimes say about cryptocurrency, so what happens when they pull the plug on the internet?
	Where are you going to look for your money?
	Well, that's always the big question.
	All right, so thank you so much again for being on the show.
	And any parting words, any summation you'd like to do?
	There's a phrase from Old English King Æthelred the Unready, which I love.
	He's the 10th century king of England.
	And he said, accuse no innocent, shelter no guilty.
	I think if we all abided by that, we could roll up these forces of evil in 24 hours.
	Right.
	Well, I'm afraid the guilty is really going to slow things down a bit.
	Fair enough.
	It's, you know, as much as there seems to be a 1% at the top, it seems quite top-heavy, or maybe even, you know, they've gotten the upper middle very well, sort of underfoot, or whatever you want to call it, very much involved in a deep way.
	I'd love to have you dissect some various incidents, even from the past, like The one in Aurora, Colorado, which fascinates me, which I think ended up, that was financial, and it was, I believe, ended up to be a battle between our two artificial intelligence systems.
	I can do Jack the Ripper as well, Carrie, if you like.
	I think it was two women from Chicago.
	Oh, really?
	Okay.
	Incredible.
	I mean, you know, so, yeah, you've got, I mean, I don't know where to find all of this on your website, whether you have it or you don't.
	Yeah, actually, what you need to do is put in the key words, like Jack the Ripper or Jane the Ripper, because we think those are women, on the abledanger.org, and then over the top right is search, so you just put in the words and you'll get a list of all the stuff.
	We covered a huge amount of ground.
	I think someone who understands what that means is I think we've got about five gigs of Data on our website.
	All right.
	Well, good to know.
	I can understand that.
	Anything else you want to say before I close this down?
	No, just thank you very much because I know a lot of my friends, their eyes start to glaze over after listening to me for two hours.
	I sympathize with your listeners.
	Anyway, it's a real pleasure to be with you, Karen.
	I look forward to the next time.
	Excellent.
	All right.
	Thank you so much.
	Take care and thanks everyone for listening and watching.
	I'm going to hang up the phone here with you, David, and have a good night.
	Okay.
	Bye now.
	And so I want to thank everyone for, as I say, watching and sorry we didn't have much time there for questions from the chat, but I'd love to have him back.
	As I say, there's a lot more areas to go into and we can drill down in certain areas.
	You can also write to me and let me know what Particularly an area of interest that you have and you would like to hear that team talk about on my show.
	We can do that.
	So thanks.
	And I do have an interview with Courtney Brown and his remote viewing team on Friday.
	I think it's at 1 p.m.
	Pacific time.
	And this has been a crazy week.
	I'd say Mercury was retrograde, but it's not.
	So I'm not sure what's going on.
	But if things go as planned, Courtney Brown and Princess and Daz Smith, that's two of his remote viewers and Courtney himself, will be my guests on Friday at 1 p.m.
	So that'll be a fascinating show.
	We're going to be talking about Egypt.
	And Moses and the Ten Commandments, what they got when they remote viewed it, and I have to tell you that it does involve the commandments coming from alien ships, apparently.
	And you can also go to his website and watch the evidence that is laid out there.
	I'm not sure if the video costs money or not, but I think it's called farsightinstitute.org.
	I think that's their URL. And I'm also expecting to have the team from Davinia Water, which is the best water really out there.
	And the scientist who put it together is Steve Settlemyer, his daughter, Kirsten.
	We're going to be doing an update with them.
	We've got some wires crossed, so it was going to happen tomorrow.
	I don't know if it will, but stay tuned to my Twitter.
	And my Facebook, if you want to know what's happening whenever I'm going to go live, etc.
	That's always the best way to do it.
	And now what I'm doing is going live on this channel and transferring everything over to my other channel after, you know, after it's done.
	So the videos should be on both channels if things go as planned.
	And they don't block me on one or the other.
	So thanks again for your support and take care.

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