Knowledge Fight Interactive Search Tool

All Episodes

Previous Next

Dec. 8, 2017 - Project Camelot

01:54:13

KERRY CASSIDY INTERVIEWED BY ELLA FREE ON REVOLUTION RADIO

Large

Audio Only |

Scroll

Time	Text
	Camelot TV broadcaster with a weekly live show on YouTube.
	You also have a BA in English from Sonoma State University and is a graduate of the UCLA Anderson School of Management Executive MBA program as well as a specially selected author, writer, director of the UCLA Short Fiction Film Program.
	She worked for 19 years in Hollywood for top studios, talent agencies, and an independent film production and development prior to founding Project Camelot.
	And her website is projectcamelot.org and projectcamelotportal.com.
	And it's a leader in the alternative media sector with a YouTube channel that has over 55 million viewers worldwide and over 179,000 subscribers.
	Wow, that's numbers.
	Carrie travels the world conducting interviews, documenting the testimony of whistleblowers with above-top secret clearances, as well as authors, researchers, and experiencers covering conspiracies, secret space program, black projects, ETs, kundalini and ascension, and free energy.
	She speaks at conferences around the world and is considered one of the leaders of the disclosure movement.
	So again, I'm really happy to have you here.
	So I guess I'll start with how did Project Camelot come about?
	I think that's something we can delve into that a little bit and give everybody a little history on that.
	Sure.
	Well, thanks for having me on the show.
	Well, basically, I picked up a consumer-grade camcorder and decided to To make a UFO documentary.
	And in the process, I ended up, you know, doing interviews, and I didn't really even know what I was doing, although I had been trained as a journalist in college.
	So I was a frustrated filmmaker in Hollywood, and I just decided, okay, that's it.
	I'm going to make my own documentary.
	So I hit the scene, and eventually I connected with Bill Ryan, who was representing at the time the Serpo Project.
	And he was a spokesperson and a webmaster, so to speak.
	And so I interviewed him at a Laughlin conference in Las Vegas.
	Well, I think it was Las...
	Well, it's in Laughlin, but in Nevada.
	And so that's kind of, we connected.
	I did an interview with him.
	I did an interview there with Let's see, who was it?
	Got Bill Hamilton.
	And I also did another interview with a guy named Robert Salas.
	I was attempting, as I say, to make a documentary.
	And when I connected with Bill, we kind of hit it off.
	And eventually, my mother passed away.
	I had a small inheritance.
	Bill offered to show me around the sacred sites, you know, the stone circles and Stonehenge.
	In England, so I took the money.
	I followed...
	I think it was Jordan Maxwell and William Henry on the search for Atlantis in Egypt.
	I took that trip.
	And on that trip, I actually interviewed Jordan Maxwell and basically got him to talk about ETs back then.
	And then he told me I could never release that, which I don't think I've ever been able to release it.
	And I don't know where it's at at this point, but it was a long time ago.
	Because at that point, he didn't want to ruin his reputation by talking about ETs.
	A lot has changed since then, obviously.
	Can I quickly ask a question?
	What year was this?
	Well, this was 2005 when I started on the trail.
	And then when I connected with Bill and we started Camelot, Project Camelot was because we connected in Tintagel, which is the former home or one of the former homes of King Arthur in England.
	And I had a past life recall of the time of Arthur.
	And we both decided to combine our skill sets.
	He was a webmaster and a writer.
	I was a filmmaker, writer, whatever else.
	And we just...
	Right then and there it was like a weird serendipity kind of magical thing that happened and we decided to create this.
	We wanted to bring the truth out.
	We both had the same drive to do that and so we decided to create Project Camelot and we decided right then to interview whistleblowers from Above Top Secret that no one else had really done that other than Stephen Greer had tried to do that but he never released the tapes a couple years before that and I wasn't even aware of You know, as Stephen Greer back then, Bill was.
	However, you know, so it was just kind of, that's the way it all came together.
	Wow.
	Yeah, Stephen Greer, he's kind of laying low.
	I haven't heard too much about him, but...
	He's kind of respected in our communities.
	People still talk about him.
	But to get back to you in Project Cam a lot.
	So you two came up with this name and it was just kind of this magical experience in England.
	So that's where it started.
	And then who was the first person you interviewed?
	Or how did the beginning go after the inception?
	What happened at that point?
	Well, at the time, as I said, Bill was representing the Serpo project and just a weird thing that happened.
	He was kind of communicating with people about Serpo and somebody wrote to him and said, I, you know, I've been doing, I did something secretly, you know, for the aerospace community.
	Like, you know, at the time that he wrote, I think he said something like 20 or 30 years ago, I signed a non-disclosure but it's now expired and And I would like to tell you what I did.
	And so, in essence, that was our first whistleblower, and his name was Mr.
	X. But it is important to say that I was already interviewing people like Rich Dolan, Jim Mars, and Stephen Bassett on my video, my little documentary.
	And then also, you know, Bill Hamilton.
	But a really authentic whistleblower at that time was our Mr.
	X. Yeah, so he really was kind of the first person.
	And then I guess one of my questions to you is, how did you become interested?
	You know, you're a very spiritual person and you have a background, a very interesting background in this connection with the metaphysical world and different things that you've experienced as a child.
	How old were you when you first started becoming interested in these quote-unquote conspiracy theories?
	Or I always say unrevealed facts.
	You know, that's what I call them.
	So was this something kind of you were interested even as a young woman?
	Yes.
	Prior to starting Camelot, both Bill and I had done a tremendous amount of research.
	And we were both, I guess you'd say, aware of the ET presence, other worlds, you know, the unseen world, so to speak, other dimensions, etc.
	And I had always been interested in that sort of sector.
	And so it was very natural for me to want to investigate.
	And then on top of it, I had been writing screenplays for...
	Because I started my own production company and was trying to break into Hollywood, as I say, basically packaging projects.
	And I was pitching them to people like...
	Steven Spielberg's Kathleen Kennedy, who was handling his development at that time.
	So we got it into, for her to look at, I got it into, you know, a project.
	A couple projects, actually.
	One of the people I interviewed and knew before Camelot was a guy named Dan Sherman.
	He wrote a book called Above Black.
	So I was representing that project.
	And this is all before Camelot.
	I was also representing what's called the Wingmakers.
	They have a very well-known multimedia website called wingmakers.com.
	And it's based on a whistleblower called Neruda.
	And there's a book and a lot of multimedia stuff.
	It's been online for a very long time now.
	So I got the rights to pitch that to people also like James Cameron's story person and Ridley Scott's story person and basically got turned down everywhere.
	And the reason was because I didn't have a track record and I had no attached well-known director or writer or actor.
	And so without that, you know, it's kind of like you're dead in the water.
	I understand that.
	So at that point, that's when you kind of decided to step in on your own.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so then, what other things?
	Do you have any influences in your life?
	Is there anything that kind of inspired you to do?
	I mean, I understand a little bit about your history and your interest in these topics.
	Is there anybody that influences you or anybody that you kind of look up to?
	Yeah.
	Well I don't know but you know I also studied acting for four years in New York and At some point, I remember a manager, this woman who managed Lily Tomlin, said, oh, you know, if you're going to be cast, you're going to be cast as a journalist.
	And I thought, well, that's interesting.
	I wonder why I look like a journalist.
	So that kind of was in my background.
	And I also, as I say, I had studied journalism in college.
	I had written for the school paper.
	And I actually also wrote for a local paper in Santa Cruz for a short time.
	So I had a background in journalism, you know, unlike I guess a lot of people that are out there now doing interviews and stuff.
	Although I never thought about doing interviews until actually I decided to pick up a consumer grade camcorder and do that.
	So I just happened to be good at it.
	I guess I was outgoing.
	I enjoy talking to people and they seem to respond well.
	So, that's kind of what happened.
	But as far as people that influenced me, I mean, I have influences, you might say, you know, Herman Hesse.
	I mean, great writers were influencing me, even when I was a child.
	I liked, when I was a really young child, the Nancy Drew mysteries.
	Me too.
	And I thought...
	The Drew mysteries.
	Yeah, I thought being a sleuth investigating mysteries sounded really exciting and I thought life was really boring.
	And when I was a kid, so I thought, wow, that would be a really good life.
	I had no idea I'd end up actually doing something like that.
	I understand.
	Yeah, so that was a big influence.
	I don't know.
	I had some weird influences.
	The Hardy Boys?
	You did bring up Nancy Drew, but we can't forget the Hardy Boys.
	Yeah, but you know, see, they were boys and so I didn't really, they didn't count.
	Although I did like shows like, I loved anything to do with spies.
	So I liked like Man From U.N.C.L.E. or, you know, I can't even think of what the shows might have been, but you know, growing up.
	And of course, when I saw Close Encounters of the Third Kind, I was really happy when I saw that movie because I thought, yes, it's coming out.
	You know, what I really knew in my heart was true.
	I had been abducted as a kid and I had a recurring nightmare about the abduction.
	Do you mind expounding on that a little bit about the details around that?
	Sure.
	I, you know, I had, like I say, a recurring nightmare.
	What it would be was this loud buzzing sound.
	And back then, nobody ever talked about anything to do with ETs or any of that.
	So I didn't associate it like that.
	Right.
	Logically.
	But there was a loud buzzing sound and I would go outside my door when I was having a nightmare and down a garden path, which we didn't have in front of our house, but nonetheless, a white picket fence and and I would start to approach the fence on the other side of the fence was a man in a top hat and with a long coat and all dark and scary and there was a car I remember like a van
	or some kind of car and this is why I believe also I was my labbed and there's other reasons why I believe this but I I would just get terrified and then I would wake up So it kept recurring until one day I decided I was going to go through the gate.
	And I did, and then they stopped.
	So, and, you know, I also, another reason why I believe I was my lab, I have a very strange birthmark on my right shoulder that I've had since I was born.
	I was the only kid in our family that was born in the Moffett Field Hospital.
	A military hospital on the base.
	And I was also, I also went to as a field trip when I was quite young to what's called Ames Research, which is right near Moffat Field.
	And I walked in there and I basically said, Oh, I know this place.
	There's no way I could have known the place, but, you know, that's what the first...
	And that stuck in my mind my whole life because it was weird and strange that I thought that.
	And then when I interviewed Norm Bergram, which is a fabulous guy who he was, like, I think when I interviewed him, I think he was 93, if I have it right.
	And he's disappeared now.
	I think he went back into Black Projects.
	I think they...
	They brought him underground again.
	But he basically told us on the interview that he had been working for, I don't know, like 40 years underground in Moffett Field.
	So he also said, because at the time when he said that on the interview, you can actually see this on camera, I said, oh, I grew up in Moffett Field, was born in Moffett Field Hospital, something like that.
	And he looked at me with this look.
	Which was really strange.
	A very strange look.
	And he had been talking about children that were sort of being genetically re-engineered and stuff like that as well during that.
	So anyway, it all pieced together in the last few years.
	Wow, so that's a pretty, that's an interesting way to kind of have an interest in this field, you know, to kind of lead you into this type of work.
	So, you know, one of the things I noticed, let's see, I feel like I'm missing a question.
	I had a question here.
	One thing I was reading about was your conferences, and I just read so many positive things about all this hard work and all these efforts that you put into these conferences.
	I would love to hear about them.
	Oh, sure.
	Actually, right now, there's a new conference that I didn't organize, but I did speak at, which is the Ireland Bases Conference, and it's called Ireland Awakens.
	It was produced by a woman, Ann Miles Johnston, and her name, I know it's terrible, I can't remember, but she's a lovely person, and maybe I can look it up during the break or something.
	Anyway, so I can give her credit.
	So they just released my speech over there.
	I did two speeches.
	So the first one's online right now, and I just put it on my website for those of you that are interested.
	And then there's another speech.
	That one's Kundalini and Ascension.
	And then my other speech is basically the Secret Space Program.
	So...
	Yes.
	What I found over the years and what happened early on with Bill Ryan and I both in Project Camelot is that we were really on the cutting edge because we were releasing information that nobody else would back then.
	And so we also kind of hit the...
	We had a grassroots, I guess you'd say, large audience.
	And we got a lot of resentment from people in the UFO community who had been working for years, you know, to get their stuff out and whatnot.
	So there were a couple conferences that came along where we were told by, I'm not going to name the people, but well-known people who, you know, basically would call the conference Organizers who were speaking, they were speakers at the conferences, who would say, if you're going to have those people speak, I'm not going to speak.
	And we were fortunate enough that the people organizing the conference actually told us that those people said that.
	And they said, well, tough, if you're not going to speak, you know, we're still going to have them.
	And this happened more than once.
	And so what happened, even what happens today, is apparently I'm persona non grata at a lot of major UFO conferences.
	So eventually, in about, I think it was 2009, I did my first conference.
	And I named them Awaken Aware.
	And that was a very popular name.
	People have been, you know, sort of...
	Using it ever since, which is fine and good, you know, but I started that trend and I had all my whistleblowers on stage, you know, because we had our, you know, we have so many people that we could bring to a conference to speak.
	In fact, we had more than, you know, you can fit into a conference on a weekend.
	But so I did 2009.
	I did one in 2011, I think it was, in 2013.
	And then it became very difficult.
	It was very risky.
	Every time I had a partner that was supposed to come in And share the financial risk, you know, because you lay out a bunch of money to do everything.
	And then if you don't make it back, you could be in real trouble.
	And I ended up having to kind of cover my ass by using my own credit cards.
	And that was so nerve wracking, even though I did break even eventually.
	You know, that I decided to, I've stopped doing big conferences like that so far because even though they were hugely popular, we didn't really get people, you know, enough bodies and chairs and we didn't have the outreach to really get people to come down in person, you know, here to California.
	But then more recently, the last few years, I've had a very good connection with England.
	And my boyfriend is English.
	So I had a free place to stay, and I connected with this wonderful place called High Elms Manor that does this UFO Academy, which is kind of a speaking roster during the year.
	And she and I had decided to start doing some small conferences.
	And they are very small.
	They allow like 120 people.
	They're very intimate.
	But they're wonderful weekend conferences, and I invite all the kind of local and a few speakers that we might be able to afford to fly over, or if they can fly on their own dime, and that sort of thing.
	So those are the conferences I do now, which is, you know, awake and aware.
	And we have all the stuff on Vimeo.
	You can go and watch all the conferences.
	They're really fabulous.
	Just amazing.
	And they're super cheap.
	You know, I don't charge a lot for you to watch.
	It's ridiculously cheap.
	Okay, we'll have to check that out.
	Hopefully some of my listeners will get on there and check those out because I'd like to...
	Yeah, and you can click on the ads for the Vimeo conferences footage is all on my website.
	And there's like four of them now.
	Do you want to give your website one more time?
	Because sometimes people join a little bit late.
	Sure, no problem.
	Project Camelot.tv Okay, so you have it, guys.
	You guys can check all these out later on.
	And then also, so you were doing the conferences, and you're still doing those.
	And I also saw that you had a TV series on True TV. It was called Shadow Operations.
	Yep, that's right.
	You want to share a little bit about that?
	That's very interesting.
	Well, yes.
	That was back...
	I mean, Bill Ryan only was working with me in Camelot for really three years.
	And after that, we had a sort of a contentious breakup, I guess you might call it.
	But it does seem that we were interfered with on some levels.
	But nonetheless, I've been now doing Camelot for 12 years.
	So back...
	In the day, Bill and I were tapped to, we pitched a project, a TV show to this producer.
	And we got this show going and we were supposed to be the sister show to the conspiracy theory show with Jesse Ventura.
	We were supposed to cover the alien side of things, which at the time he didn't want to cover.
	So they made a pilot.
	We co-produced it.
	We brought in most all of our witnesses, our stars on the show, and so are Bill and I. It's on my website.
	Just go to Project Camelot.
	Well, it's on my YouTube channel, but it's also on my...
	If you want to find the link really quickly, you can go to the About Us page on projectcamelot.tv, or you can just go to my YouTube channel.
	Just type in to YouTube Project Camelot.
	A lot of my footage gets stolen all the time on YouTube, but nonetheless, if you get the actual Jag Bodhi Project Camelot channel, then I have over 600 video interviews on there, so it's quite a massive channel.
	But at any rate, so Shadow Operations, we actually had a call from the CIA that I forwarded to our producer.
	And it came by way of one of my witnesses, Gordon Novell, who's now passed away.
	But basically he got on the phone with me and said, because that always teased him about being CIA, he always denied it.
	And I knew he was.
	He had a handler during his interview, for God's sake, with me.
	And so I would say, you know, you're CIA. He would say no.
	But then he called us.
	He was in shadow.
	You'll see him on screen there.
	He's one of the stars as well.
	And he called us in the middle of the night during the shooting in Palm Springs.
	And he said, I am CIA. I have to admit it.
	And my bosses want me to connect with your producer.
	I'd like to talk to him.
	So I connected the call to my producer and basically he was invited that the CIA would produce our program.
	And if they did, we would go to series.
	And he said, no.
	And so what happened after that is he was fired eventually, not very long after that, maybe a week or two.
	And then basically the show never went to series.
	We were put on the shelf after they shot it.
	Eventually, they did release it about two years later and did no advertising or promotion for it whatsoever.
	We found out because they do have a listing.
	True TV has a TV listing in which you can't help but see when they're going to have a show.
	Right.
	So some people that were devoted fans let us know that, like, the night before it was going to go live.
	So we put out the word on our network.
	And, you know, since then it's been on our YouTube channel, and it's been picked up and put on.
	I think it's also on Bill's YouTube channel, and it's probably...
	Duplicated all over the web.
	But nonetheless, it's worth seeing.
	It's quite well done.
	And, you know, Bob Dean's on there.
	I mean, Brian O'Leary, who's passed away.
	Great stuff, really.
	And it was really ahead of its time, I think, that they didn't want the truth out there.
	I think maybe if we did it today...
	It would probably might be able to fly because I think they're more into releasing, you know, disclosing the fact that there is an alien presence, you know, and that we've been to Mars and so on and so forth.
	Yeah, maybe so.
	You know, it just seems almost like not only the time might be right because of some of this information coming out, it's almost like You'll have a more popular show if you have, like, this secret information coming out, you know, because of Edward Snowden, and you have, you know, Julian Assange, and, you know, that's creating, like, almost a popularity of disclosing this secret kind of information.
	It's almost like a trend, almost, which is a great one, in my opinion, and I'm sure you agree with me.
	You know, we need these platforms.
	But, you know, at the same time, you know, the things that are going on with the Internet, it's getting a little nervous with this new law that they just passed.
	So, you know, I mean, I'm kind of jumping ahead a little bit because I do want to finish our conversation.
	But what do you think is going to happen with this new change in the Internet without this equal across the Internet?
	I'm sorry.
	I don't know what new law you're referring to.
	Well, gosh, some of the words are escaping me, but basically, it's not going to be like equal feeding.
	It's something maybe you want to look into, and people are going to have to start to pay to get the top feeds in the internet.
	It's going to, maybe we'll talk about that, but I'll send you some links on that.
	It's going to kind of affect things, you know?
	You mean they're going to have to pay for what?
	Pay what?
	I don't know.
	To get towards the top, to get the top feeds on the internet searches.
	And I probably need to do a little brush up on the homework, but it is a little disconcerting.
	So I'll just send you some links.
	Okay.
	Well, you know, it is interesting.
	I mean, I got a call last night from a whistleblower who, I guess that's all I'll say about him, but he said that You know, there's evidence that Trump went into the CIA and stole, you know, got a bunch of files, and they're actually sending troops in to get rid of the poppy fields in Afghanistan.
	We do seem to get, I've gotten about three or four different corroborations from different people, which lends this story some weight.
	It's been, I think it's been out on certain news feeds.
	So, you know, there is a, Cleanup of the pedophiles.
	There are trends that seem to be verging towards taking our country back and perhaps not so rigid, maybe more freedoms rather than less.
	But, you know, this is interesting if you're telling me a new law passed that's going to restrict financially people's access to information.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, so that might change it.
	You know, even though there is more news flowing freely, and like you said, we're kind of getting our country back, and there's all this sexual harassment coming to light, and the pedophiles, like you said.
	So now they're taking a different angle.
	You know, the deep state, or the powers that be, or the people that have the money that are in control, those families.
	You know, they're going to figure out another way to kind of, you know, reel in some of their control.
	So we'll just have to see how that plays out.
	What's your opinion on Trump, by the way?
	If you don't mind me asking.
	Well, yeah, no problem.
	Well, what I'd say is just that we're getting word that he is trying to do some good things.
	That they aren't...
	It's not getting picked up by mainstream press.
	It's actually...
	Being done sort of under the cover of night.
	I mean, I had a lot of back-channel information saying there was a split in the military.
	This is even before Trump even got into office.
	So there has been a...
	You might call them a rebel group that's led by the Navy, a portion of the Navy, not the whole Navy.
	And the whistleblower William Tompkins, for example, coming forward, that was part of that effort, I believe.
	And one of my top witnesses, Captain Mark Richards, is also one of those people who has been...
	You know, so there is a rebel faction that seems to have been put in office now who led a coup, who basically...
	You know, when Hillary was trying to take over the voting behind the scenes, they basically fought with the same ammunition, you know, that Hillary was fighting.
	They hacked into it and they changed the vote back so that Trump would win.
	So there does seem to be some positive elements going on.
	Now, as to whether it'll stay that way, whether Trump will turn out to be a good guy, like I said, It's not clear, but I am getting testimony from behind the scenes saying that he is doing some good things.
	I've talked about it on my show, the various things I've heard, and there is corroborating evidence at this point for this.
	And in fact, yesterday, I think it was, one of the Rothschilds came out and basically was complaining on a major newspaper, I think it was a British one, that Trump is trying to...
	And he was complaining about it.
	So I thought that was a riot because basically it substantiates the fact that Trump is a good guy.
	Now, there's also Obama also the same day, I think it was, came forward and said that Trump is like Hitler in the 30s.
	That was like, you know, the pot calling the kettle black, as they say, you know, where Obama is basically mouthing, I think, for the old order, so to speak.
	You know, trying to distract people.
	And yet he's the one who put all these really horrible laws in place that have made our lives more miserable.
	And so he really shouldn't be speaking.
	But, you know, that's the kind of thing going on.
	There's a real battle going on, and it could result...
	In a civil war.
	In a sense, a war is being conducted right now, and that's my point of view, on planet Earth.
	And the civil war and the breakdown in the United States and the factions that are really sort of separating now are starting to become more obvious.
	And there are some people who are even saying, oh, you know, we've won.
	The deep state has been taken down.
	I say not so fast because there's a whole element that has to do with the ET connection and the underground bases where they've been, you know, stealing humans from off the surface, abducting them genetically, using them as guinea pigs, and also Killing them, using them as sex slaves, using them for a sex trade off the planet as well with other races.
	So this has been going on for many, many years.
	And at a certain point, the military made treaties with these beings.
	We're talking about the rogue greys.
	They're backed by the reptilians and so on.
	So there is a war of worlds, as far as I'm concerned, going on on planet Earth and off the Earth as well.
	Right.
	And to kind of get back to that question of whether Trump is a good guy or a bad guy, I think he's a little bit of both, but I hope he's good.
	Everyone is a little bit of both, I think one can say.
	So I think that's a very safe statement.
	But when we talk about a good guy, what we mean is, is this person going to work for the people or against the people predominantly?
	Are our lives like the Patriot Act and all of this Is it going to be more oppression, more surveillance?
	Is it going to get worse or better?
	So that's really, it's more, you know, we're not going to get a black and white situation.
	We're going to get a trend towards the good or towards more evil, really.
	Right.
	And...
	Yeah, the other thing, you know, just to talk about Trump a little further, and I don't know if this is true, I have not substantiated these claims, but, and I might have caught this on the news, I watch a lot of news, I think he's trying to put spies in the spy agency, and I think that's really important to do, because we can get into a little discussion about the deep state.
	There's just so many things going on in these black operations, these dark, you know, the shadow government, and And in the deep state, it's, you know, they need to have spies, you know, they need some oversight in these agencies because, you know, a lot of them are, like, considered, you know, independent contractors with government.
	There's no oversight.
	So I do like this idea of, in fact, it is true that there's going to be spies in the spy agencies.
	I think that needs to be done because you and I both know there's stuff going on in the deep state and in these black operations that are a real detriment to, you know, our country and to humanity.
	Absolutely.
	Well, the CIA is worldwide, really.
	And the deep state is worldwide.
	So it's important for us to keep that in mind.
	I think, you know, no doubt about it, I think he may even be planning to, you know, basically replace the CIA at this point.
	They are a split agency as well.
	So they're not all good guys or all bad guys either.
	And I think that's known.
	But again, I think, you know, the NSA, probably the same thing.
	I mean, we're talking about, yeah, taking back the country in whatever way they see fit.
	Now, how successful they're going to be, how good and well-intentioned they are, and what things they put into place.
	Again, we don't know.
	So, yeah, it's interesting.
	Yeah, you know, so many of these agencies, you know, it's like need-to-know basis.
	That's very compartmentalized, in my opinion.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you know, you know, as far as the NSA goes, you know, just with all this, I'm just glad that people are aware now that the NSA can do this, you know, you know, spy on its own people.
	I think that's important for people to know, you know, they need to understand that, you know, there's, the government doesn't necessarily have our best interests at heart.
	And so I think it's important that they know that, you know, I've interviewed Bill Binney and Kirk Wiebe and people like that.
	Have you ever interviewed them?
	I think Bill Beeney, I did invite him for an interview.
	I don't think he ever replied.
	You know, I have a real trouble getting in touch with people because they do mess with my emails and stuff.
	And we have evidence of that.
	So, you know, like I said, I have, you know, I'm happy to, if you know these people, send them my way and maybe they'll make it through.
	And I'm happy to interview them, of course.
	Yeah, so, you know, just the information that he learned about the government, I think, has been very revealing for our people, for the United States.
	And, you know, he's just a really wonderful man.
	I hope that does happen for you.
	I hope you get a chance to speak with him and interview him.
	Just an amazing human being.
	And, you know, he suspects a lot of these dark operations that go on, like the human experimentation element and the defense testing.
	He thinks a lot of that CIA. So, yeah.
	Yeah, I mean, obviously it's going to go through the CIA, and we certainly have documented evidence of that.
	But, you know, it goes much deeper than simply an agency.
	I mean, we're talking, in that case, of the secret space program.
	So that's pretty massive.
	And that covers, you know, all the different military, all the different agencies, you know, plus its own...
	Sort of things that are going on there and ET organizations, if you want to call them that.
	Well, do you mind kind of elaborating a little bit on the Secret Space Program?
	Because I myself, I'm not, I've just been on that.
	And, you know, I have listeners that probably have never heard of it, the Secret Space Program.
	So maybe you can educate them a little bit from that standpoint of them not knowing anything about it.
	Oh, sure.
	Well, I mean, the secret space program is, you could think, I guess, if you want to go back to the time of the Nazis.
	I mean, I highly recommend my interview.
	It's a three hour interview with William Tompkins, who was basically brought forward by the Navy and disclosed an amazing amount of information.
	About the formation of the secret space program, how it came to be in the United States, talking about the paperclip scientists that came over after supposedly World War II, and Antarctica, and how there's a new Berlin kind of Nazi base in Antarctica.
	Substantiating that.
	So he's like a key witness who can kind of guide you through that information.
	So again, his name is William Tompkins and he has passed away.
	He died rather suddenly recently, but he was quite elderly.
	And again, I think he was...
	I think he was 93.
	I'm not sure, you know, sometimes, I'm not sure about that age, but something like that.
	So, but basically what it is, is, you know, that we have bases on the moon and Mars, that we learned from the Nazis, but apparently we also had our own secret space program that had started in the 1930s, maybe even before that.
	ET Visitation, of course, has been going on for eons on planet Earth.
	And we basically are ETs.
	We are human hybrids of various ET races.
	At base, I say 12, and probably a lot more than that now because we've been genetically...
	Engineered and re-engineered over and over again since then.
	And it continues.
	And there's a lot more on that score.
	But in terms of the secret space program, you can look, again, back to the time of the Nazis, the atom bomb, all of that.
	Everything went secret, went underground, literally and figuratively.
	And so that's what we're really looking at.
	And what happened when Truman basically gave the order to We have witnesses that have talked about this
	and have been members even.
	And so, what more can I say?
	We are, you know, there's a program called Solar Warden that patrols our solar system, keeps watch on various vehicles coming in and out.
	You know, there's a massive story to do with the Secret Space Program.
	And this is involved with what we call black projects, which are very high-tech projects that involve things like creating a Humanity 3.0, Which is one of their main objectives.
	Some people call that transhumanism, where they're going to be using, and they are using, you know, biological genetic engineering as well as nano and, wow, mind control and all kinds of things in order to basically AI and so on to Link these individuals to what's an AI grid here on planet Earth.
	That's run, from what I understand, from something called Skynet, very similar to the Terminator series.
	In fact, we have a witness called Pete Peterson who basically admitted that the series, the Terminator, is very close to the truth as to what's going on on planet Earth.
	And he is a physicist, and we have, I think it's a six-hour or more interview with him.
	That involves three of us.
	That was myself, David Wilcock, and Bill Ryan.
	The reason that happened was because back in those days, Bill and I were not in communication.
	We're not getting along.
	But I was connected with Pete Peterson originally, talking to him late at night on the phone and getting a lot of great information.
	I decided to want to go up and interview him.
	Bill Ryan at first was not interested and so I connected with David Wilcock because I happened to just be talking to him as a friend and saying that I really wanted to interview this incredible whistleblower but I didn't have any money.
	And, you know, to fly and so on.
	And David actually volunteered to fund the trip and to come along.
	And obviously he saw the value in it.
	And so that's how he became connected with Pete Peterson.
	And now he's become one of the strongest, I think you could say, Project Camelot witnesses.
	Very nice.
	So, okay, what else can we cover here?
	There's a lot to cover.
	I don't even know which direction to go here.
	So, I guess we can talk a little bit about, well, I know what I wanted to do to kind of follow up with what you were talking about.
	You know, you're talking about nanotechnology and transhumanism, and, you know, I'm part of a targeted individual community, and we talk a lot, you know, certain aspects of the community talk about that a lot, the human experimentation angle, so a You know, I've seen some remarkable things.
	I've seen pictures of, you know, objects being removed from a person's body, you know, and some people feel like it's aliens and other people think it's the government.
	I mean, it's probably all of them, you know, I imagine so.
	And, yeah, you know, it's a very interesting topic of discussion and it does seem to be like they're kind of trying to homogenize humanity in general in various capacities.
	Sure.
	Well, you and I did a show on my network about that, so I won't really go into that that much.
	I do recommend people go over there and just search under your name or targeted individuals, I think is what we called it.
	But, yeah, I mean, there's no doubt about it.
	In fact, it's kind of fascinating.
	The night before last, I interviewed a new whistleblower that a lot of people...
	Probably have heard of recently.
	His name is Cody Snodgrass.
	And I think I say his name correctly.
	Anyway, he's a former black ops contractor.
	And in my discussion with him, we got around to remote viewing.
	And to his psychic abilities and the fact that he has a Native American as well as Irish lineage, which I do as well, and other people that have become so-called targeted and super soldiers, etc., by the government and people like Duncan O'Finian and Maria Miriam Delicato and there are others.
	So we basically, I mean, he hadn't thought of himself that way, I don't think.
	And I still think that he doesn't.
	However, he has all the signs of it and they tried to kill him.
	And he psychically saved his own life because he tapped into that.
	So he was being targeted by electronics and so on.
	And that was from what I understand, if I recall, I think this was back in the 1990s when they tried to kill him.
	So this kind of thing has been going on for a long time.
	Of course, your television has been watching you.
	And they've been weaponizing various techniques for a long time.
	I mean, you know, there's a lot made out of nuclear weapons still sort of out in the mainstream.
	But the reality is the weaponry is a lot more sophisticated than that.
	And that's almost old school at this point, according to my whistleblowers.
	And so what you're really talking about is things like particle beam weapons, plasma beam weapons, all kinds of weird, even weaponry that I know nothing about.
	But at least these have come through the various people I talk to.
	And we know that they're doing.
	And now what's happened in Cuba is kind of opening the door for discussion on these unique, strange weapons, these more advanced weapons.
	All right.
	Well, that's interesting to hear.
	I'd have to check that out.
	So, but yeah, so all I'm saying is that, yes, people have been targeted.
	And yes, we are being targeted.
	Some people more than others.
	Certain your cell phones, cell towers, these are all, you know, relay points for targeting.
	When we get into 5G, it's going to be worse and obviously can bounce off it.
	I mean, I have a witness who talks about the fact that, you know, AI can target you and bounce off of a toaster, for example.
	The smart appliance, as they say.
	Yeah, and a car engine and so on.
	So we're really talking about the wiring up of the entire Earth in a massive way and the link up with AI. And quantum computers, if you get into Geordi Rose and the D-Wave that the government's now using.
	So we're really talking about a brave new world.
	It's really quite amazing.
	Oh, yes.
	Yeah, and also, I noticed on here, I'm under your favorite list, thinking maybe we can talk about some of these, but I noticed you interviewed Catherine Horton.
	She's a physicist, also considers herself targeted.
	She's severely targeted, so I know she's in hiding now.
	What did you think about her?
	Well, yeah, she's a lovely lady.
	She was targeted because she originally went to attend a trial.
	You know, she'd been working for CERN. And I highly recommend her interview on my website, again, on my YouTube channel.
	So you can do a search under the last name Horton, I guess, would be easiest.
	You know, fascinating witness.
	However, she doesn't know...
	Whether she knows what she knows is consciously or whether she just has a lot of unconscious information that she doesn't tap into, she's not so aware of what CERN is capable of, it seems.
	There are limitations in her knowledge, I guess you would say, but certainly they want to shut her up.
	And so that tells you that she knows maybe even more than she realizes she knows.
	So it's always very interesting when you come across a case like that.
	Yeah, I find it interesting too.
	And CERN as a whole, shown within itself, with the capabilities of the CERN and the generator, what they're capable of doing is just beyond comprehension from what I understand, what I've been told and what I've researched.
	Yeah, actually, you know, I have to say that CERN is kind of the one that's out in the mainstream, but we have linear accelerators all over the planet, and there are some very specific ones that are used for the same purpose that CERN is, unbeknownst to the public.
	And Brookhaven Labs has a linear accelerator that's doing all sorts of things.
	They can open portals into other dimensions, etc., And it's also important to know that Japan has been, from what I understand from my whistleblower testimony, blackmailed into creating their own CERN type of operation over there.
	So you've got another sort of baby CERN, I guess, being built in Japan right now.
	And so you've got larger ones, smaller ones.
	What they're basically doing is going through into other dimensions.
	That's fascinating.
	And then, you know, there's theories that some of these aliens are interdimensional, actually, so they're not actually visible anyway.
	Exactly.
	So when you open a portal, and this is obviously what's going on.
	I mean, there are a lot of portals here on planet Earth, and there are man-made stargates, what we call stargates, and there are ones that can be closed or open, and there is basically what we say is a war for the stargates and for control of them.
	Here on planet Earth.
	And those do allow ET races to come in, whether it's temporarily or permanently, however, depending on what kind of a dimensional being they are.
	A lot of ETs are what you call 4D. Some of them have problems with our atmosphere, etc.
	That's why they tend to do things like possess a body, take over a human body, Or just influence that body or a human.
	And sometimes there'll be an ET walk-in that will take it over.
	So there's a lot of different ways in which that can happen.
	But portals are very important.
	These dimensional gates for travel, interstellar and interdimensionally.
	So this is the kind of thing we deal with when I talk to whistleblowers.
	Yeah, that's very fascinating.
	We're about to go to break, so we've still got a couple more minutes here.
	What about some of the dangers?
	A lot of this technology can become so very dangerous.
	It's a very general question.
	Maybe you can tell me some of your concerns about technology and what you're seeing.
	Well, I think I'm most concerned about AI and its sort of direction.
	You know, a lot of people don't realize that we are being invaded by AI that's been created by off-planet races as well as our own AI that we're creating here and also competing AIs here on planet Earth and from off-planet.
	So we've got a whole game afoot and the AIs are affecting people.
	Things like the financial system.
	They are put in control of various things.
	One of my whistleblowers says that there's an AI that is controlling the surveillance technology on the planet at this time.
	These are individuals and groups.
	That the militaries are working with, sometimes competing.
	Sorry about that, Carrie.
	We'll be right back with your capacity.
	No problem.
	Whistleblower Nation will be right back after these messages.
	Thank you.
	popular YouTube channel.
	It is Project Camelot.
	So Carrie and I were just discussing a little bit.
	We're just going to the topic of AI before the break.
	Did you want to get back into that?
	Oh, well, you know, if you had a specific question about it, you know, I think it's something of great concern.
	I do think, however, that It's important to realize that human consciousness is going to supersede even artificial intelligence.
	So there's nothing stronger than the spirit and the soul.
	And so in the end, AI is destined to fail to take over the race of humanity.
	But I think it will give us a lot of trouble and run for our money, so to speak.
	Yeah, sounds that way.
	I know Elon Musk is working on a lot of projects and, I don't know, that's definitely something that a lot of these tech companies are Well, I got a question here from the chat.
	Somebody wanted to know if you could go into, you interviewed with a young boy and his mom in Russia who says that he was from Mars.
	Somebody wanted to hear about that.
	Yes, Bariska.
	Well, Bariska is one of our most famous interviews.
	We flew to Russia and interviewed him really in the early days of Project Camelot and so you can watch that interview on my YouTube channel and recently seven newspapers in the UK stole my footage and put it up without my permission violating my copyright a few of them I've written to have actually well said they would pay me I don't know if anyone actually did And,
	you know, attribute it properly, etc.
	But nonetheless, so Bariska is a very important interview, and he is a young boy who came forward in Russia at a very young age.
	Now, he is actually, gosh, I don't know how old he is now.
	He might even be 18 or older.
	But when he was young, he...
	Sort of started talking to his mother and he would walk up and down the town streets and he would basically, he was very psychic.
	He would tell people what was wrong with them physically or what was going on in their life.
	And then he started talking about his past life on Mars, being a soldier on Mars.
	And Trying to turn Jupiter into a second Sun and various things the wars they were involved in and so on so he was became very famous in Russia and there was a an article written about him in Pravda I think it was and we found out about it and then we got together the funds to fly to Russia and had a really fabulous trip going to Moscow and St.
	Petersburg and we We had a connection who set up the interview for us and we also interviewed a couple other people at the same time.
	Valerie Uvarov and I think the other person was Vladimir I'm forgetting his last name.
	And actually, there was two other people.
	So we made the trip worth our while.
	But Bariska's a fascinating young guy.
	Now, he's been very much surveilled and handled, you could say, by the Russian government.
	Since our interview, we've been unable to really...
	Get in contact with him again or even find out anything new.
	So, so far it's been very difficult.
	So I don't know what the status is on brisk at this time.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	It shows I was here.
	Sorry about that.
	That's the first time I've ever done that.
	I'm so quick on the mute button, but I forgot that one time.
	Thanks for going in and sharing that a little bit.
	I was curious to see your opinion on Russia as a whole.
	What did you think about it?
	Oh, it's a really fascinating country.
	What can I say?
	I have a past life there, so I had a lot of memory from there, maybe even more than one.
	People all over the world are really wonderful and I've traveled a great deal.
	So what can I really say other than they're very friendly, they're very open, they're very intelligent.
	There's a great sort of sense of youth and change in the streets at the time we were there.
	As I say, it would be back in the...
	I think we went there in maybe...
	I think it was 2007.
	So, you know, it's been like 10 years.
	But...
	Wonderful place to visit.
	Of course, St.
	Petersburg is fascinating.
	I wish I had more time to do kind of touristy things than I did when I was there.
	It was also quite cold.
	We went in winter.
	And a fabulous interview with Valerie Uvarov as well, talking about pyramids that were being built by the government in the vicinity of St.
	Petersburg to help cure, supposedly to cure cancer, but to having a lot of other purposes as well.
	Yeah, I mean, it's a great place.
	It's fascinating.
	Yeah, that's a place I've always wanted to go to.
	Do you still think there's a lot of freedom and freedom of thought and expression and sharing of information?
	Because I haven't been there, so I really don't know firsthand.
	Well, I mean, it's not known to have been a place of freedom for the ages.
	Historically, no.
	But, you know, I do think that over time, more and more freedom is...
	Has been in evidence.
	But, you know, the people we talk to are very careful.
	I can say at least they were back then.
	I don't think Putin was in power when we were there.
	I think it wasn't him.
	So there have been changes since Putin took the reins, so to speak.
	People claim that it's more open.
	There's more freedom.
	I imagine, though, that their deep state is every bit as...
	Repressive and oppressive as the one in America.
	That's my point of view.
	I do know that at least one person told us the Russian mafia looms quite large and does force people that have businesses to pay them.
	We got that kind of information.
	But there is, you know, it's always been a people that have had wonderful writers and artists of all kinds.
	And so they have managed to survive.
	And so there's always been, I think, a freedom of thought that is independent of government surveillance and controls that keeps the spirit of the people alive, I guess you might say.
	That's great.
	Sounds like that's a very interesting trip.
	And then there was one other question about Antarctica, Antarctica excursion.
	That might be something that you've done in the past recently, an interview on that.
	I personally don't know, but I know it was a posted question.
	Well, I mean, there's a lot about Antarctica out there.
	As I said, you know, William Tompkins talked a lot about it.
	I often ask my witnesses about Antarctica, for example, Captain Mark Richards.
	I've asked him about it.
	I know certain of my witnesses have been there and verified some of the things that are there.
	You know, we know that the Pope went there.
	We know that John Kerry went there during the election.
	There's new evidence that even during the Kennedy assassination, Lansdale sent, I think it's Fletcher Prouty, who was high up involved with the Joint Chiefs, to Antarctica of all places just during the Kennedy assassination.
	What I see is that there seems to be a kind of a command and control Center down there that may even be trying to run governments here on planet Earth and it's ET related and it does have a lot to do with the solar warden plant program as well as controlling what is you know the spacecraft and things that are going on in our solar system.
	I'm told there's equipment there to do things like that.
	I also am told that It's become kind of the place where governments can go to meet with ETs and each other if they don't want to be surveilled.
	So it's out of the normal range of surveillance technology of governments in general, but it's certainly probably well within the sort of overview of what we call the secret space program, the main secret space program on Earth, which is the one that is headed by the Americans, Brits, Australians, Russians.
	They're all working together in that.
	China has their own secret space program.
	India is trying to have one, I think, maybe with varying success, and they're an ally in some other ways.
	And there are other governments, obviously, involved, and so on.
	So, yeah, there's a lot going on in Antarctica and some fascinating stuff.
	You know, it's very hard, obviously, to get witnesses.
	So I have a few people that tell me things about Antarctica, but even the ones that do tell me things are very sort of buttoned down and don't tell me a lot.
	Well, something I definitely want to look into.
	That's pretty interesting.
	And then the question of, and I've been seeing this a lot, but I try to keep, when I'm doing research, I kind of have a very narrow focus, and I'm expanding a little bit on it, but black goo.
	What does all this talk about black goo?
	Do you know anything about that topic?
	Yes.
	I've done a lot of interviews, I guess several years ago now, about it.
	David Griffin is someone who We have a couple presentations on that subject at on my Vimeo conferences.
	So over the past couple years, Harold Cal Savella also talks about it.
	Miles Johnston talks about it.
	I have had a sort of back-channel witnesses document and, you know, give me verification, corroboration about what happened.
	But during the Gulf oil spill, for example, the evidence is that the black goo had resurfaced.
	It seems to be a form of artificial intelligence.
	That it was placed on the planet by an ET race to activate at a certain point in our history, which it has done.
	It's also associated with the Marconi scientists.
	The really bizarre deaths, you can look it up, I think it's on Rents, is where the articles showed up first, if I recall, all about the Marconi scientists and scientists.
	There's something like, well, there's at least 25, but I think there are a lot more who died completely bizarre.
	And what happened is it appears the black goo got into their bloodstream or their nervous system and took them over and then forced them to kill themselves.
	And this also has to do with the Falklands War.
	The black goo seems to be there.
	The reason they used a lot of core exit in The Gulf oil spill was to counteract the black goo, I'm told.
	It eats the bottoms of boats and was the real reason for...
	There was a cover-up to do with the Gulf oil spill.
	And it actually is in...
	I've got a witness who testified that it's actually contaminated a certain amount of oil that's in some people's cars.
	Not the synthetic oil, but the other kind of oil.
	And I don't have the name of the company that produces that oil, but I know at least one witness that talked about that.
	So it's pretty intense.
	It's pretty pervasive.
	And whether they have created a sort of counteragent at this time, it's very possible they have, but I don't know if they have.
	It was also in the X-Files, by the way.
	I don't know.
	I'm a big fan of X-Files.
	X-Files came out not too long ago, and I actually think it came back again.
	I think there's like a third run we'll have to see.
	There's a lot of truth hidden in fiction, I have to say.
	Now that I've gone further into investigating these type of topics, it's like, God, that was in that movie such and such.
	They give you a little taste of what's really going on, and it seems to be hidden in fiction.
	I think so.
	So I guess some of my next questions would be false flags.
	You brought up false flags.
	Do you think there's some false flags going on, some operations going on right now?
	Well, I mean, Vegas is a very recent false flag.
	We have the fires in Northern California that were created and appear to be a weapon very similar to what took down the towers in 9-11.
	We've got the fires here in Southern California where I live.
	I'm kind of been surrounded by fires, but luckily live in a safe area.
	And there's evidence that those fires are unrelated to each other, and yet they are all happening around the same time.
	You know, they have complete control of the weather.
	They could at any time stop the fires, stop the wind, and stop the spread of the fires.
	I believe that the one by the Getty that was created probably has something to do with the underground base under the Getty.
	That we have a whistleblower, and I'm trying to remember his last name.
	His first name is Steven, and that's also an interview that I have on Project Camelot.
	So, you know, there's a lot of things going on with land grabs in California, trying to get poor people out of certain areas, and they're using, I believe, fire to do it.
	So then, yeah, I mean, I just had a very interesting...
	Discussion with Ole Domogard about false flags and that's a recent interview on my website.
	He's something of an expert on all of that.
	Talking about also with Tony Gosling we were talking about there's a huge list and it's something like 50 or 48 or more false flags throughout history that you can find.
	So if you look for the interview on my website, projecthamelot.tv, and you look for Tony Gosling, I think we linked to the list there.
	So if you're interested in finding out all of the false flags recently as well as in history, that's a great place to go.
	Well, thank you for that.
	And then I kind of wanted to...
	This is kind of an open-ended question as well.
	Some of your favorite interviews?
	You know, I don't know because it's really, really difficult at this point.
	Not only do I have about over 600 video interviews, but I have interviews that are...
	I did radio shows.
	I was on Reddit Revolution also during that time.
	So I have about five years of radio shows.
	Many of which seem to have disappeared off our server, strangely enough.
	But nonetheless, some are still in evidence and we have under audio.
	I think we have them under audio or something.
	If you do the drop-down on the front page of my website.
	So, in answer to your question, it's really hard to narrow it down when you have so many.
	I could say that maybe the witnesses themselves, the people.
	You know, Bob Dean, of course, is an old favorite and a beloved friend and a brilliant guy.
	And I've done several interviews with him over the years.
	He is quite elderly.
	I think he's about 85.
	He's not doing anything in public nowadays.
	He's got failing eyesight and He's failing health, unfortunately, but is much loved.
	And so I did see him this year back in, I think it was back in the spring.
	So he's one of them.
	You know, Henry Deacon, who came out under his own name, Arthur Neumann, is a wonderful Camelot witness.
	Sorry to go back real quick.
	Bob Dean, what did he witness?
	Can you tell me a little bit about him?
	I might have missed it when I was writing something down.
	No problem.
	Bob Dean had been on the circuit even before we came forward.
	But for some reason, he and I really hit it off and my interviews with him became quite well known.
	He's basically a whistleblower who has violated his security oath.
	He was given this...
	This book, sort of a book, when he worked in Europe, in what's called Shape Headquarters.
	And he's a command sergeant major.
	At the time, he was, I guess, a relatively young man.
	He was given by one of his superiors this book to read while he was sitting around the office or the base, I guess you'd call it, in, I think it was in France.
	And I think that, I'm not sure if France or Germany or both or whatever.
	Anyway, it's called The Assessment.
	All of this, of course, is in the interviews.
	Read it and learned about ETs and the military encountering various ET UFOs and how they tried to initially shoot them down but they were unsuccessful and so on.
	So he basically came forward.
	I can say that his daughter...
	I think it was his daughter committed suicide.
	And so you never know.
	That probably was a targeting and a mind control in sort of blowback because the Illuminati...
	Don't take kindly, even though Bob was part of what we call an old boys network and was read in on many levels.
	In fact, he's never revealed everything he truly knows, partly to protect the lives of his family and his wife, Marcia Schaefer, who herself is a wonderful witness and disclosure of information and a contactee.
	And Bob himself is a contactee.
	He talked about his ET experiences.
	There's also Clifford Stone, who is a wonderful witness who I interviewed many years ago.
	He lives in Roswell.
	I actually have an interview that includes Bob Dean and Clifford Stone, which is a lot of fun.
	I'm trying to think of other ones.
	There's just so many.
	Wonderful.
	I mean...
	I guess Captain Mark Richards is one of my other favorite witnesses because he's someone I visit in prison in Northern California.
	I've done seven what I call total recall interviews.
	I'm not allowed to have a camera.
	Or any recording equipment and so there's a transcript that I remember everything and so I call it Total Recall.
	After the interview I record an audio and usually a video subsequent and then I write down my notes and his wife accompanies me.
	She often helps take notes as well.
	Those are very popular and disclosing some of the most recent and amazing whistleblower testimony.
	What was he disclosing, Mark Richards?
	Well, you know, it covers reptilians.
	A lot of it covers reptilians.
	It covers the slave trade of humanity off-planet and on.
	It covers AI, and he said some of the most provocative things about AI, I think, that are out there.
	You know, it's a huge litany of stuff.
	One of the things he disclosed recently was that the Vietnam War was actually a war with aliens, a group of spider beings that came through a portal in Vietnam, and that the Vietnam War was basically a cover-up so that they could fight those beings and close the portals.
	So he's really the most, I think you would say, the most radical witness that I've had in terms of disclosing information.
	Okay, wow.
	That's really fascinating.
	Okay, so anybody else you want to add to that list that people can look up and give it a listen to later?
	Of course, Pete Peterson.
	I highly recommend the third interview, which is mine with him, because that's where he...
	Sort of reveals more than he does in the other two sections, but the other ones are good as well.
	So Peterson is a wonderful witness.
	Let me see.
	There's so many.
	And I'm always, you know, when I get this question, I always regret that I didn't mention somebody.
	So, you know, it's kind of funny, but, you know, it's just one of those things where it's really an amazing job that I have.
	Learning and meeting all these wonderful people and getting the testimony, analyzing it, cross-correlating information and investigating.
	So it's kind of a, like I say, when you've got that many witnesses and people, these are not all whistleblowers.
	Some are just authors, investigators, researchers.
	You know, my channel covers more than ETs.
	I mean, I investigate Bitcoin, for example.
	I've done a recent interview on, several interviews on cryptocurrencies.
	I have what you might call conspiracies of all kinds.
	It's very hard to narrow it down to just a few people.
	What's the best evidence you've ever seen?
	Is it a piece of a UFO? Is it some amazing images?
	I'm curious what you've gotten to see over the years.
	Well, I mean, I have held in my hand a piece of UFO. The kind of stuff that was seen at Roswell, that when you hold it, you wrinkle it up and it goes back into shape, that sort of thing.
	Wow, that's interesting.
	Yeah, and that was from one of our witnesses that I interviewed to do with Roswell.
	So if you do a search on Roswell, you'll see we don't have that many interviews on Roswell.
	It actually had to do with one of the crashes nearby.
	And a guy had some of this stuff.
	I held it in my hand.
	I can tell you that it was warm and that it did seem to be the very stuff that they were talking about all those years ago.
	You know, but I'm not a person looking for evidence in quite that way.
	What my evidence is is witness testimony.
	And I firmly believe that we are the chroniclers of the truth, that humans are the real genetic library, and we are the ones that hold the truth of what's really going on on the planet.
	I believe documents can be faked.
	Just about everything can be faked, for that matter.
	And so I don't rely on documents, you know, Obama's birth certificate notwithstanding, etc., I think, you know, some of the most fascinating stuff that recently I came across is an article I wrote, and you can look for it under articles on my front page.
	It's called The Missing Now Found Remote Viewers and the Nazca Aliens.
	And what that actually reveals, because I did some investigative work around that, I did finally get in touch with those two remote viewers who had gone on two radio shows, Jimmy Church and...
	Gosh, what's his name?
	I'm sort of blanking out on the other one.
	I'll see it in a minute.
	It's in the article, at any rate.
	And what happened was they disappeared.
	And they stopped.
	They were supposed to come forward with a second sort of remote viewing after those interviews and like a month later or something.
	And they completely disappeared from the scene.
	Oh, John B. Wells was the other radio host.
	And they're fascinating interviews.
	I highly recommend them, those two radio shows with these guys.
	They are called, let me see, Troika.
	So it's T-R-O-I-K-A. And one's called Brett Stewart.
	And the other one is, let me see, his name is...
	Khan.
	I think Khan Ali.
	So they're obviously very, very good remote viewers.
	And they actually released it.
	They have a website.
	I think it's called troika.com.
	And I've linked it on the article so you can find it there.
	But what happened is they have created an e-book with some drawings and things documenting their finds.
	But it happened during this summer.
	And they apparently...
	We're in advance of the GaimTV crew in knowing and finding out what was really there on the site to do with what was called the NASCA aliens or what is called that.
	Didn't make it into mainstream press, but they tried to debunk it.
	It's not been debunked.
	They've got scientists looking at it and analyzing the skeletons found in a place in Peru, somewhere near the Nazca Lines in a cave, if I understand it correctly.
	And it's a really fascinating story.
	What is strange is that they did communicate with me after I wrote my article I think what's happened is these particular aliens,
	what they remote viewed and what was documented again by Gaia as being correct, The aliens had an implant which was basically running their bodies so that they were off-planet beings and that they were in essence a kind of android and run by a kind of artificial intelligence.
	We're put on the earth.
	They actually had more than one colony, it appears, which were actually a thousand years apart.
	They're also different size skeletons.
	There's a very large one called, they named Maria, and she was pregnant on top of it and killed for being pregnant with a human hybrid.
	That's what they found out.
	And all of this is, they figured out before Gaia went there and actually saw that the woman was pregnant and found out that she didn't indeed have a body, you know, a human body, I guess it was a hybrid body, I don't know, inside of her.
	And she was tortured and killed and that this race of beings were not friendly to humans.
	And she violated some code.
	It's really a fascinating story.
	And it's an unsolved mystery.
	And so are the Nazca aliens.
	And it's gone quiet.
	I have a whistleblower who is consulting with the people in the government and the presumably secret space program that has taken control of this find.
	And he says the truth is never going to come out.
	I think that these remote viewers revealed the truth and then they got hit on by the secret government and told to shut up.
	And that's what I think has happened.
	So, well, right now I'll just put out the challenge, you know, if you haven't been shut up, then come forward, do a second viewing and talk more about this.
	Why this matters is because it documents that we've not only been invaded by aliens, but we have been invaded by artificial intelligence from another race of aliens and androids, and that this was thousands of years ago.
	That's fascinating.
	So you definitely had some interesting guess.
	How many races are there?
	Oh, well...
	Scientists will tell you in the mainstream, they've now decided that there are billions of Earth-like planets out in the universes.
	So with that in mind, you can even imagine if you only relegate aliens off planet to being humanoid and coming from a similar type environment to ours, Those billions of planets, there must be billions of races.
	And, you know, of course, we know that there are all kinds of races, and there are also artificially intelligent races.
	So, there is no limit, most likely.
	You know, I liken it to, do you want to limit the, sort of the mind of God, if you want to think about it like that.
	The creativity of God, or the creator.
	There's probably new races being created all the time.
	Why limit that?
	Even in your own mind, let alone in, you know, for on behalf of the creator.
	So, That's my answer.
	Okay, great answer.
	And then, who do you listen to?
	Who's your news sources?
	Who's your favorite radio shows and TV shows?
	I'm just curious where you get your information from, as far as news sources go.
	Well, you know, my information comes from whistleblowers and contacts that I make and sources that are, you might say, back-channel and never come forward as an interview, so to speak.
	Sure, I watch the news in various places, but I... A favorite...
	I don't think I have a favorite news source, actually.
	I mean, until I get more than one corroborating...
	A piece of evidence on things.
	I don't tend to necessarily believe it.
	And so I'm not a big follower of any other people out there or news or individuals or things of that nature.
	Right.
	You just kind of watch a little bit of everything.
	Yeah, it's tough, especially with mainstream news, as you know, it's so controlled.
	So occasionally you get some interesting information.
	Well, I'm curious about Bitcoin.
	I don't know much about it.
	Is there any little bit you could share with the listeners?
	Because I don't know, there might be other people who are kind of like me.
	I keep hearing about it.
	I understand it's a currency online.
	So if there's anything you want to add to that discussion, just to kind of educate people and myself as well on Bitcoin.
	Well, I'm certainly no expert, but I have interviewed several people about this, and I am still on the trail, you might call it, of how it's being controlled.
	I can tell you that a recent interview I did with Stan Larimer, who is working with what's called BitShares, that's an exchange where you can, you know, exchange Bitcoin and so on, that his son has basically created, from what I understand.
	But Stan Larimer is kind of He's kind of the godfather of BitShares, as they call him or something like that.
	But he's really an aerospace, I don't know, engineer, aerospace person who worked for years for companies like Boeing and so on.
	And he was the one who said on my radio show that actually Bitcoin is controlled by the miners that are primarily located in China.
	And that this is where they're really, in essence, controlling two thirds, at least two thirds of Bitcoin.
	So when you find that out, it's worth noting.
	It doesn't mean they are controlling it now.
	It does mean that they can control it or step in and control it at any time.
	And that's as much as we know so far.
	Of course, a lot of people that are big fans of cryptocurrency will tell you or try to tell you that it can't be controlled.
	I beg to differ because I think quantum computing and AI is going to be involved there somewhere, although I'm still looking for people that can speak to that.
	And so, sure, if anyone's listening or you know someone who's an expert in this area, feel free to have them contact me.
	Just for the people that want to know, I did try to get Quinn Michael's on my show, but he's never responding to me, even though I was supposed to be on a show with him.
	And...
	Oh, God, what's his name?
	Sorry.
	Jason...
	I forget his last name.
	It's crazy.
	Too many names to remember.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	I know.
	It'll come to you as soon as you stop thinking about it.
	Yeah, I'm sure.
	But at any rate, I was supposed to be on a show with the Quinn Michaels, and then they basically decided to continue without me.
	So I don't know what happened with all that.
	I do know that Jason wrote to me subsequently saying he would be willing to come on my show, but he...
	Said, supposedly, that Quinn Michaels is no longer doing radio shows or doing any kind of shows at all.
	I don't know if that's the case or if he could have changed his mind since then.
	This is an open invitation for Quinn Michaels.
	He's someone who is supposed to have some information on the creation of Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.
	He's, I guess you might say, a techie.
	And he also has been putting together some degree of AI and how that might interact with those currencies and those technologies.
	So he's the only person that I've really come across that at least was out there initially talking about this sort of thing.
	Yeah, it's interesting to me too.
	I definitely want to kind of do some research into that as well.
	So, okay, so long-term projects and ideas for you.
	What's your long-term goals?
	Well, I'm writing a book, so my short long-term goal is to get that book published and either have it published out there by a publisher or self-published, so it depends what the reception is and whether I can get that done.
	I'm nearly done with it, but I still could use more work on it.
	What else?
	I'm trying to make a television show.
	I'm pitching that in Hollywood right now.
	Sort of similar to what we did way back when with Shadow Op.
	And so if there's any producers out there working in Hollywood, if you want me to pitch my show, let me know.
	We have tons and tons of information and witnesses and wonderful guests to put together a television show.
	So obviously I'd like to reach...
	More than the alternative community that I do reach with my audience.
	So obviously television is the way to cross over into that world.
	So those are goals.
	I'd like to make movies, sci-fi movies, again, based on everything that I've come across in Project Camelot and so on.
	So those are my goals, I guess you'd say.
	Good, obtainable goals, too, the way you do things.
	Do you have any conferences coming up?
	Well, I actually have a trip to Egypt.
	Myself and Maria Wheatley are going to be taking a group to Egypt April 4th through the 14th of 2018, and I just put all the sort of forms that you need to fill out, and you need to put down a $500 Sort of hold your place.
	What do you call it?
	Deposit.
	And then the final amount would be due January 10th.
	All of the information is on my Project Camelot.tv website.
	In fact, it's on the front page right now.
	And it's also under events.
	Then I'm doing, let's see, I've been invited to speak in Barcelona in, I think it's July.
	Late June or July.
	Maybe it's late June.
	For a conference, and I don't have the details in front of me, but of course it will be publicized on Camelot when we get closer.
	I probably will do an Awaken Aware conference at High Elms again this summer.
	I probably will do it in June if we can get it all together by then, and assuming they have dates free.
	I'm trying to get into this conference that's happening in Acapulco, which looks like they're going to have a lot of speakers, but I don't know if they're going to get my email.
	It's always that kind of weird thing.
	So that's kind of what I've got in the future as far as conferences.
	Do you do, where, you know, because I have a lot of similar problems, you know, we have a lot of issues, whenever you're covering like deep state, secret information, you know, you do get, you have a lot of issues with your, you know, corresponding with people.
	I noticed that if I CC myself in the email, I have a, it's a pretty good gauge on whether they get it, because if it gets back to you, it usually gets to them too.
	If it doesn't return to my inbox, the CC, then I know it might have gotten intercepted.
	Yeah, I do actually always CC myself.
	You know, this is, I mean, from many, many years of doing this.
	But nonetheless, I can say that we had, the way, one of the more recent incidences that happened, we did a tour, Maria Wheatley and I, in the summer.
	Of the Sacred Stones circles in England.
	And the people that ended up on the tour, a lot of them told us they never got any response from us.
	And a lot of them paid and were sitting around wondering desperately whether they were even going on a tour.
	And we also, Maria Wheatley and I, had some very weird interference as well.
	And you would think that this is a very innocuous thing.
	Nothing, you know, very earth-shattering.
	I mean, it was a very small tour.
	And yet, interference, like right and left.
	It was crazy.
	She even had helicopters flying over her house and trying to...
	Mind controlled her into thinking that I was canceling the tour, and I got a download in the middle of the night.
	I woke up out of a sound sleep, and I was told that she canceled the tour.
	I got in touch with her.
	She said yes.
	She thought I was canceling the tour, so she canceled it.
	I mean, it was really...
	We've got so many crazy things going on.
	They do manipulate or try to manipulate us.
	So being psychic is really the best defense, I have to say.
	What did you say was?
	I'm sorry.
	Being psychic is the best defense.
	Yeah, I guess.
	I imagine so.
	I don't know.
	I'm very intuitive.
	I don't know if I'm psychic.
	Well, human beings are all psychic.
	It's just how much maybe credit you want to give yourself in that regard.
	I think that everything is connected.
	I think we're all one on some level.
	Everything is connected energetically.
	And I think sometimes with certain people that you're connected to, you're almost sharing more information with each other for some reason.
	Just, you know, that expression water finds some levels.
	And so...
	When you connect to someone, it seems like there's just a deeper connection.
	You don't even need to speak as often.
	You don't have to talk.
	You know what's going on.
	Like with kids, with children.
	When they're not doing what they're not supposed to be doing, they might be getting into trouble.
	If they're in trouble or something's happened, it's just a strange thing that happens.
	Sure.
	Absolutely.
	Mothers are very much in contact with their children often.
	Yeah, it's very interesting.
	So I'll have to stay open to that and trust my intuition and my instincts a little bit better.
	I'm always in that hyper-state of awareness.
	I'm always alert, trying to, okay, what's going on with my emails?
	What's going on with my technology?
	It's just because of the situation I'm in, so it's a little different.
	Okay, so you're doing so many things.
	I know a lot of the stuff you do for free.
	I mean, this is your business.
	How are you staying afloat?
	Is there something we can do as the listeners to contribute to your cause?
	And yeah, I'm just a little curious how that goes.
	Do you have sponsors?
	Well, actually, no, we don't have any sponsors, but we do have a good audience.
	Basically, we ask for donations, and we have a donate button on the website.
	Actually, donations have kept Camelot going since actually one or two years after we financed ourselves.
	We ran out of money, and we started asking for donations, and thank God they came through.
	And have kept us afloat all these years.
	I can say that, you know, of course I make money on advertising on YouTube.
	My YouTube channel is basically very important paying the rent.
	So that's kind of That's it.
	Advertising and YouTube, on YouTube, and donations.
	Once in a while, of course, I make a little money on conferences.
	You know, we film it, we put the footage on Vimeo, and we get a bit of information, you know, a bit of...
	Sorry, there's a background.
	Oh, that's okay.
	It was turned off.
	It was supposed to be turned off.
	So anyway, I can say that it would be great if people would donate more because it's kind of, you know, it's always sort of, as they say, living on the edge.
	I never really know how much I'm going to be able to survive each month.
	It does get tiresome.
	I do contemplate going back to work for Hollywood in order to have a decent paycheck.
	But, you know, this is a labor of love.
	I've managed to stay going for 12 years at this point.
	I'm very hopeful that we can continue to stay afloat.
	That's your calling.
	Seems to be.
	Okay, Carrie.
	Well, we have about seven more minutes here.
	So we talked about donating to your project.
	I think that's important.
	And again, guys, it's up to people that listen.
	It's up to the listeners and the people that care about this.
	When you're working in this type of alternative news and media, we don't have all the big sponsors and advertisers.
	So our radio station could always use some support at freedomslips.com.
	There's a donate button there.
	As well as let's keep Carrie afloat.
	She has millions of listeners and I want her to be able to continue what she's doing so she can stay true and walk on her path and be able to get information that she can share with others of like-minded individuals.
	The more you can investigate, the more you're open and receptive to other whistleblowers.
	The more time she has to do her work, The more results she'll have and information to share with you.
	So that's all I was trying to say.
	Just, you know, everyone can just contribute just a little bit.
	You know, a little bit goes a long way in our world.
	Thank you very much.
	That's very kind of you.
	No problem.
	Do you have anything else?
	Do you collaborate with people?
	Because I know you basically kind of work alone.
	But I noticed you have one here.
	You have a couple of people working for you, a cameraman.
	Yeah, my partner, Neil Sanford, he's also a co-editor and he's a designer of all our banners.
	He does all the banners.
	And he accompanies me as a cameraman as well.
	And he's been working for Camelot now for four years.
	And let's see, who else?
	Well, Igor, there's only three of us.
	Igor, actually I'm not supposed to say his full name, so he likes to stay under the radar.
	He's our webmaster and he's a wonderful guy.
	He keeps us going.
	I don't pay him a lot, which is kind of a tragedy.
	So if you want to donate more money to Camelot, and I think we have on our donate page, we do have a button for Igor directly, I think, there as well.
	So, you know, it's really a small operation.
	That's just how it's been for many, many years, simply because I don't have the money to pay people.
	Right, yeah.
	Yeah, but luckily there's other people that feel passionate about these causes and this information is you, I assume.
	So, you know, it's always nice to have, but you know, I know people need to stay afloat somehow, so, you know.
	So I guess, you know, next week, I do weekly shows.
	Just in case your audience doesn't know, I have a, it's actually a video show.
	So it's not a radio, it's a video on YouTube.
	It's a live show.
	So I broadcast live at least twice weekly, usually on Wednesday and Thursday nights at 7pm Pacific Time.
	And then I sometimes do a Friday afternoon around 1 o'clock.
	This Friday I was free for your show, but normally I do from like 1 to 3.
	And a lot of times I reserve those Fridays for people in Europe because of the time difference.
	It's very difficult for them to do the 7 o'clock shows that I do.
	And then sometimes if there's something really important, I will broadcast live.
	Really, any time.
	It could be Monday or Tuesday, but generally speaking, it's Wednesday and Thursday nights, and I always announce it on YouTube.
	So you should subscribe to, you know, it's free, my YouTube channel, Project Camelot, and just hit the subscribe button, and that way you get notified whenever I go live.
	And you can also subscribe to my Twitter, and you can also subscribe to my Facebook, Kirilyn Cassidy.
	And, you know, we're maxed out on everything in terms of viewers, so it's great.
	We don't have as many Twitter people as I'd like, so subscribe to Twitter.
	I think it's just, you know, twitter.com slash Project Camelot.
	I think that's what it is.
	And that way you really find out everything I'm doing and stay up to date.
	We also have a newsletter, and it's on the front page.
	You can click that and just put your email address in.
	We don't ask for any other information that I know of.
	And we send that out on Tuesdays and Fridays.
	Okay.
	Well, thank you for that.
	Do you have any guests lined up already for next week?
	Yes, I have John Brandenburg and he is a fascinating man who has worked in the aerospace community and he has written a fiction book Read behind the scenes in Washington, D.C. by people in government.
	He may even be influencing the current Trump administration, although we don't know that for sure.
	And it's all about this sort of war of the worlds that's going on on planet Earth behind our back.
	Where underground bases like Dulce are doing experiments on humans.
	We're talking about a worse situation than Nazi Germany.
	If people really understood how humans are being messed with in underground bases, both on and off the planet, they would really change their ways, I think, and step forward to change that situation.
	I just want to say, you know, that it's really very important.
	So John Brown is at 7 p.m.
	And I'm not sure who else I have next week.
	I think I do have somebody else.
	But I have to pull up my calendar to quickly see.
	Let me just say, last night I did a really important interview with Paladin on the history of the White Hats, trading programs and taking back our government.
	Here in America, and I have to say we disclosed all kinds of fascinating stuff on that show, so highly recommended.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Is that our music in the background, Mona?
	Yep, that's it.
	Well, Carrie, thank you so much for coming on.
	Again, Project Camelot.
	You can find them on YouTube.
	You can find your website as well on here, projectcamelot.org.
	And, you know, Carrie, I hope you come back, and I wish you the best of luck.
	Mona, love you.
	Thank you for producing the show.
	No problem.
	Thanks very much.
	You're welcome.
	All right, I shut off the studio.
	Okay, great.
	Yeah.
	All right, I guess we've got everything covered.
	Are you still there?
	important thing ...from Project Camelot.
	So we're just wrapping up this...
	And I think I've disconnected from the Revolution Radio so that they won't have a bleed through during their commercials over there.
	So anyway, thanks for watching and listening and this will go onto YouTube and also you can get it over at Revolution Radio in their archive, I imagine.
	So as always, we'll be back next week and thanks for watching and Thanks for basically being there.
	Take care and have a great night.

▲