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Dec. 7, 2017 - Project Camelot
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PALADIN: THE HISTORY OF THE WHITE HATS : TRADING PROGRAMS & TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY
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Okay, hi.
I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot and I'm here tonight with Paladin from the White Hats and we are going to be talking about the history of the White Hats and this is a very fascinating subject and One that I've been wanting to go back over because there's a lot of, well, heroics, I think, in the background that you don't know about with regard to the White Hats.
And some of it's gotten forgotten over time.
And they did a lot of work.
And it looks like some of their work might even be paying off as we speak now.
So Paladin is not on camera, and as I noticed in the early part, we've got to make sure that when we are muted and when we're not muted, etc.
So Paladin, you want to say hello to everyone?
Hey everyone, how are you doing?
Thanks for that introduction, Carrie.
I appreciate it.
I know this is a show we've talked about for a while, and so I've been looking forward to it.
Great.
And Paladin is, as I have said, a forensic financial investigator.
He has been doing this for many, many years, and he is not coming on camera because he is still what he calls a PI, and that helps him be somewhat undercover when necessary, if I understand it correctly.
So Paladin, you want to pitch in here and kind of give yourself a background briefly for those that haven't seen the other interviews we've done.
Okay.
I have a Bachelor of Science degree in accounting.
I worked five years in the corporate world.
Half of that time was as a corporate auditor.
The other half was a financial manager and assistant treasurer for a manufacturing facility.
I've been a licensed PI for 30 years.
I've been a general contractor, held a real estate license.
As you mentioned, an expert witness in forensic accounting.
I've had contracts with law enforcement to do backgrounds.
I worked on the OJ case.
I have done probably every kind of investigation a PI would do.
I've done work for attorneys as far as litigation support for both civil cases and attorneys.
Criminal cases, I've collaborated with the FBI, the Attorney General's Office out of Washington, D.C. on cases, the IRS, CID. Okay, that's enough.
All right.
That's enough.
Yeah.
You know, one thing is, you know, it's great fun for...
He's an old friend, but also it's fun for me to see you try to weasel out of things.
So you don't like to say a lot about yourself and it's just the way you are.
I think it also goes with your job, right?
Well, yeah, I think, you know, I've...
We've been trained, I think, in the last 30 or 40 or 50 years to gravitate to a talking head And then everything, that person becomes a rock star, media people.
And so then we believe every single thing they say.
It's like, what's your confirmation?
Well, so-and-so said it.
And in my mind, so-and-so has, you know, he has all this credibility or she has all this credibility.
So anything and everything they say has to be true.
And to me, for me, it's just the opposite.
It's not about...
The deliverer of the information is the information itself.
You don't want the deliverer of the information to taint the information.
Like when I did background investigations for police officers, I never offered my opinion on whether that person should pass the background.
That was up to the person, the training lieutenant.
That was his or her decision, whether that person passed the background.
Now, if I found things where they violated the hiring standards, I would point that out.
And I reported everything just as it came across.
I took opinions out.
When you testify in court as an expert witness, you show just a little bit of an opinion and the other side will come after you.
So that's just my work.
It's not about...
Me and who I am, it's about the information that I give you.
And I like to tell everybody, don't ever take my word for it.
Research it on your own because it means more if you look at it, you assess it, and you make your own determination.
And if it's similar to mine, that's great.
But I think everybody has to find their own path to get to the truth.
So, you know, if I can, if I can, my information can point people, our information could point people in certain directions.
Let the information that we give you speak for itself.
Absolutely.
Well, and I agree with that philosophy, no doubt about it.
However...
And I think we're getting a bit of an echo.
I think that's coming from your end, maybe.
I'm not sure.
So I'll let...
I'm going to turn the sound down a tiny bit here.
Okay, I'm putting...
What I'm doing is I'm going to my website to just show everyone what I've got there.
And I am describing this interview tonight.
I'm going to tell you what it's going to be about.
And I just want you to see that it's on my website as well.
And there's a quote there from the White Hats, what is called the whitehatsreports.com.
And you can go over and see their website.
And I think I managed to also put that link that we were talking about.
Yeah, I did.
Which has some documentation on it because you guys specialize in documentation.
And I also want to say that this is about financial fraud, deception at the highest levels of government, And their investigation has led them through high-yield trading programs used to finance the secret space program and black projects, as well as other things, no doubt.
And then I just want to see...
I don't know.
You could read it.
I don't know if you can see this, though, but you've got it on your website.
You say that we are a group who have banded together to assist in the world's awakening.
By reporting truth and exposing our fraudulent corporate government, we bring forth information that the mainstream media refuses to report, and our news comes from high-level inside intelligence sources.
So that is the White Hats, and then we've got a link down here also above, again, on my website, projectcamlottportal.com or projectcamlott.com.
And I go to the Paladin, obviously, blog item on my website, and you can click on this particular item, and then you can see some of the documentation that they have already put out there.
And you have how many reports?
Is it 58, 48?
Yeah, I think we're 58, maybe.
Well...
Okay.
Yeah, we're at number 58.
We haven't...
We haven't done 48 yet.
So that number hasn't been released at this point.
So I guess we've done 57.
All right.
Okay.
So soon to be coming 58, right?
Well, probably 48 at the way it looks.
Oh, right.
So you're going to go back to 48, which never showed up.
Okay, that's all part of the history, and that's what we're here today to talk about and to find out about.
So, you know, this is really your game.
I'm going to sort of prod you and help you along when I think there are things that, you know, might need further explanation.
But I'd love you to tell the history of the White Hats and really start, you know, how you guys got formed and so on.
And I do want to say that I texted you, but I got some back-channel information today that is actually talking about how the Trump administration and really the people behind Trump, including the military, are cleaning house in a very big way and going overseas as well in the process.
And it looks like they may be taking down the new world order.
If you even want to look at the news item from Rothschild today saying, you know, that Trump is trying to take down the new world order.
So basically he's saying that's a bad thing and we think that's a very good thing.
So this is right.
I mean, this is actually happening on a night and at a time when it looks like there are some efforts to take back our country.
There are some efforts to take down the pedophiles, etc.
So I think this is a great time for you.
So let's go right ahead and you lead the way.
Okay, you know, and it's interesting.
I was prepared for this, but you know, I do not know when the White Hats essentially formed, got together.
But on Report 36, at the beginning of Report 36, we talk about a meeting that took place in London at a safe house.
And that's when the White Hats were born.
So, you know, if somebody wants to go there and read the beginning, it's in italics, I believe, to 36.
They can see how we were formed.
Now, how the White Hats reports were created...
I don't know if anybody remembers Christopher Story?
Edward Harrell.
Okay.
You know, the name of his website that he used to have escapes me.
World Reports.
I don't know.
Something like that.
But you can find all of his reports at ChristopherStory.org.
I did research this.
Somebody So anyway, he passed away in July of 2010.
And some of the white hats in the U.S. got together in a Midwestern city for the weekend to attend a rib fest.
Do you know what a rib fest is?
Not by that name anyway.
Well, it's kind of a thing in the Midwest and other parts of the country where in the summertime, Several companies who sell ribs, brisket, barbecued stuff.
I'm probably not explaining this well.
Anyway, they come to the cities and they have...
What they call a rip fest and that rip fest usually starts on Friday night and it goes till Sunday.
They have bands that come in and play.
They have a street, you know, like a street set up where you can walk through and do shopping and all this kind of stuff.
So anyway, there was a there was a rip fest.
That we attended in the Midwest, and it was, interestingly, I was thinking about all the attendees the other day, and none of us were from the state that we had the meeting at, so I guess I can say it was in Columbus, Ohio.
But anyway, for those on the other side who are listening in.
So anyway, we met in Columbus.
And we discussed Christopher Story passing because at that point in time, he had talked about the global settlements, our guys being in Richmond, Virginia, trying to get the global settlements done.
There was some talk of Leo Wanta at that point.
And so...
That weekend, I said, guys, somebody has got to carry on this tradition of exposing these guys.
Somebody has got to do it.
We are right in the middle of it.
We're placed at the point of the spear where we're getting information, we're getting intelligence, because we are trying to get the global settlements released.
At that time, we were also involved with Falcone, trying to get his funds released.
Eventually, CMKX with Al Hodges came on board, Wanta came on board, Tropos came on board, and a couple of heads of state came on board from other countries because they were all owed money from the same people.
So all these people got on the train.
They were on the train, so to speak.
So I said, guys, we've got to start putting this out.
So anyway, after I think this meeting took place in It was either the last part of July or first part of August, but anyway, 2010, the summer.
So anyway, it took me five months basically to convince him that we're going to put this stuff out.
So we released our first pseudo-report, I guess.
It was really bullet points and just nothing put together in a coherent report, but it was just some shocking things, and we just thought, okay, let's put this out and see what happens.
I think at that point in time, we had a mutual friend That knew you.
And so she mentioned that, you know, maybe Carrie might be interested.
So we reached out to you through her.
And so we kind of launched this thing.
And then our second report, because of the response that we got, there was a big response.
And honestly, we did it at Ben Fulford's site, of all places, in the comments, you know, in the whatever you want to call those, the comments section.
You know, where people go in and put their comments based on his weekly reports.
That's where we did it, just as a test.
Well, it took off.
It was interesting because, you know, you can track that stuff over the internet, put it in a search engine, and find out all the places they picked it up.
And we thought, nah, maybe we got something here.
So then our second report had to do with Walter Fauntroy, who was representing the Black Caucus, sent a letter to Obama About Falcone's money.
Why weren't they returning Falcone's money?
And that got a big reception too, and it just kind of took off from there.
So anyway, you had a lot to do with that.
Uh, because I think you were, you were really the first one to carry it.
And of course we eventually started talking and, and I knew the first question would be, you know, will you do an interview or will anybody do an interview?
And then of course the answer was no for the longest time.
Um, so we started doing our reports.
Um, you know, the, eventually they got, they were picked up in a lot of places.
Um, We had a pretty good following.
We could check the back end to see where the traffic was coming from.
It was 75 or 80 countries.
Most of it was the US, Canada, and the UK, but we had a lot of following.
I mean, it was all over the world.
It was countries I'd never heard of, even Vietnam.
I mean, places that I didn't even know had the internet.
So we had an impact.
We had a lot of people.
We were getting a lot of feedback.
The more and more information we put out, the more feedback we were getting.
And, you know, you guys can go through, you know, you can go through the reports and look at the chronological sequence.
But the issue with Falcone, we didn't talk much about the global settlements.
Story had talked about those.
And the person involved there really didn't want that to be out in the open.
So we concentrated on Falcone, who had money to invest in a trading program that he wanted to use to try to rebuild Miami that had just got hit with a hurricane.
And this was, I don't know, back 2005, 6, 7, whenever that hurricane hit.
Hit Miami, that was Part of the reason they were going to raise humanitarian.
It was a humanitarian project.
So anyway, he went to Romney.
Romney said, no worries, I can help you.
Engaged a couple of guys named Jeanette and Herzog.
And they took his money.
They put it in a trading program and never paid him.
So Falcone went to the authorities.
He went to Biden.
He went to the FBI. He went to everybody that would listen to him.
To try to get him to investigate this and get his money back.
And of course, it was trading programs.
Nobody wanted to talk about it.
Nobody wanted to deal with him.
So when we got involved, we started tracing this money and it was traded and Romney was paid off and Biden was paid off and Clinton was paid off and Herzog was paid off and Jeanette was paid off.
And all these guys were paid off for helping abscond with the money.
And basically the two people who got the most benefit out of it were Obama and George Bush Sr.
Those were the guys who got the trading profits who were in control of the money.
Okay, now I want you to pause for a minute and explain to people what a trading program is.
And this is a high yield trading program, I think is the proper term for it.
Okay, so you want me to explain the thing that nobody wants to talk about, right?
Yep.
I do, because, you know, that's kind of your ace in the hole, and I have to say that I don't know about the other members, but I know that this is kind of your baby or your area of expertise, wouldn't you say?
And I can talk about what I know about them, but you know a lot more, so it's probably better if you run with it.
Okay, and just to sort of back up a little bit, in my PI business, probably 20 years ago is when I got my first case of people, investors, who had invested money into what's known as a trading program.
And they got ripped off.
They needed a private investigator.
Actually, they were from New Zealand.
They were getting sued because they had raised the money from some farmers in New Zealand.
And so they actually went to London first to try to get into a trading program.
They couldn't do it there, so they came over to the States and ended up giving the money to a lady in Southern California in Orange County.
And so they were actually facing criminal charges in New Zealand because the two, and they were basically brokers, the two guys who collected the money from the farmers to invest in the trading program.
These were the two guys who came to London and then flew to the States.
They were being charged in New England.
They were under criminal indictment in New Zealand.
I'm sorry, it was in New Zealand.
This is the first case I got.
So anyway, we tracked it down.
We got...
We got their money back for them.
It was a half a million dollars.
And the interesting part was, there was a fee.
We took our fee.
The attorney and I took our fee.
And then we sent the money down to New Zealand, which ended up getting the The people who hired us to do the work, it ended up getting them off the hook criminally because they were able to return the money to all the farmers.
The ironic thing about the whole thing was there was an exchange rate when they converted the, I don't know, New Zealand dollars into US dollars at the time that we got their money back, which was probably three or four years later.
Even when we took our fee out of it, because the exchange rate had turned favorable for New Zealand, they actually got more money back.
Than what they had originally invested in New Zealand dollars, which was kind of ironic.
So anyway, that was my first foray into trading programs.
Okay, so I did a lot of investigations of people, and it was always people with investments.
Okay, and there's a base amount that you have to have in order to get involved.
And I'm going to tell you that I've had a CIA agent tell me That the people who are the go-betweens are the CIA and that you need a minimum, correct me if I'm wrong, $100,000, is that right?
A hundred million.
A hundred million.
Okay, see, I don't know the zeros, but a hundred million.
And according to my source, and I don't know if you agree with this, it can only be one person.
Yeah, see that, you're exactly right.
Okay, and so where there was actually two situations that I would encounter.
Because I mean, the first case, we were successful.
We were able to get the money back and that spread like wildfire.
Then we got all kinds of cases.
So because this is a problem, this is a problem and I can tell you why it's a problem.
The problem is just what you mentioned because the CIA is involved in it.
And so let me back up.
Okay, you're absolutely correct.
The term is aggregate.
You cannot aggregate funds, which means that it does have to be one person.
The owner of the money, it only can be one person.
There's one owner.
There are well-meaning people out there trying to get into a program, and what they're doing is they're trying to figure a way Because nobody – I mean, you know, how many people have $100 million in their bank account that they can, you know, put into a trading program?
Well, not very many.
So well-meaning brokers try to put together a group of people.
Sometimes they try to form a trust.
Sometimes they try to form – A corporation, an offshore trust, an IBC, International Business Corporation.
They try all these various ways to do it, but it never works.
And what happens is those people, those investors, you know, you have to get, because it's the catch-22.
If somebody had $100 million and they wanted to go in a trading program, there's a process that you have to go through where they have to check the money and make sure it's real and check the lineage and make sure it's not dirty and all this kind of stuff.
Well, those guys could never do that, but they could never get to the table to talk to a trader to get into a trade unless they had the money, because the first thing they have to do is prove up.
We need to do a proof of funds, okay?
So a proof of funds and a letter of intent, and then, you know, you have to prove it up.
So the catch-22 was is that the people that were trying to aggregate enough people into a deal did not know the details of the deal because they can't get close to a trader until they get the money amassed, okay?
So that's one line.
Then you've got the other line.
And the other line is that you have fraudsters out there who actually will do this, will try to aggregate money from investors, but they never have any intention of going into a program.
And those people are the ones that we refer to like the Bernie Madoffs.
Those are the Ponzi scheme guys.
Because you can't pay people 30%, 40%, 50% without being in a trading program and you can't pay them on any kind of an investment.
The only way you can pay them is you crank that machine up and you get people to come in constantly because you create this fervor about returns on investment, yada, yada, yada.
Okay.
So in that second group, Whenever we went into that investigation, guess what?
There was always a CIA guy in there someplace, okay?
There was always a contact.
He was the guy that could get you into the trade or whatever.
Well, anyway, long story short, in the deals that would go bad, which are basically the ones where somebody just takes your money, And says, yeah, I can get you into a trade and I'll take your money.
And basically they abscond with your money and there's nothing you can do about it.
And if they're CIA guys, you go to the authorities and they're not going to do anything about it.
Because as I got into this for five, six, seven years, I noticed that there was a set of people who were pulling these scams off.
Constantly.
And nothing ever happened to him.
And there would be a well-meaning person who would try to put together a group and they would get arrested by the FBI. And it's like, wait a minute, there's something wrong with this picture.
So, anyway, to make a long story short, your CIA guy, what he's telling you is absolutely correct.
It can only be one person.
It used to be 100 million.
It could be higher than that at this point.
Now, What these are for, the purpose of these, are to generate funds for humanitarian projects.
So-called?
Well, I mean, they do it.
There's two forms, okay?
There's one form where they actually do this for humanitarian projects.
And what happens is they need money, they need investment money, To go in to buy midterm notes, and Lord James talked about this in his 10-minute speech in February of 2012, where the banks trade these notes back and forth overnight, and they make 1% to 3% per day.
1% to 3% per day.
That's a lot of money.
That's almost 100% a month.
Hello?
Hello?
Okay, but there's also...
Yeah, and so I'm trying to make the point, okay?
And, you know, it's interesting because when I was in the corporate world, every Friday I had to call the corporate office and tell them, I'm either going to wire transfer you some money or I need you to wire transfer me money.
And I may have said this before, but the corporate controller would always say, I need you to tell me to make sure that the money gets to your bank.
On Friday, he said, because if anybody grabs that money on the way down, I want to know about it because we'll stop doing business with them.
And I said, because, you know, I was just a young, young, dumb.
Anyway, I said, why would somebody take, why would a bank take the money over the weekend?
And he said, because they'll invest it.
Okay.
So we can't do any investing over the weekend, but the banks do it.
Okay.
So when I say 1% to 3%, you got to take that by 30 days.
Okay.
So the high end is 90% in one month.
All right.
This is the kind of returns that they get.
All right.
So anyway, what your CIA guy is telling you is correct.
Now, what they do with this money is they use it for you.
This is the way they raise money.
This is...
People like to say, the government just prints money.
If they need money, they just go print it.
Well, that's true, but this is the mechanism by which they put the money out there.
So what happens is you block off your $100 million.
You go into trade.
These MTMs are traded.
There's a contract, usually with the Federal Reserve.
We have a copy of one of the contracts.
They assure the investor that he won't make any more than 165% a quarter.
Okay?
Yes.
Which is 650% is what it works out to a year return on his investment.
Okay?
So this is the kind of money that these people get.
That's why you have so many people trying to get into these programs.
Okay?
But they don't They don't realize that just what you said, that's the rule.
You and I, Carrie, if we had $50 million each and we wanted to put it together for $100 million to go in a program and it was clean, clear, and all this other stuff, they wouldn't do it.
It has to be one person.
You can give me your $50 million, right?
What's that?
You could give me your $50 million.
Sure, sure, sure, sure.
Okay, but we'd have to do it on trust in our own contracts separate.
And you can't go to authorities because actually what you haven't said so far is that you can even go on the internet and look this up.
And they're going to tell you, even the FBI, if you go to them, is going to say there's no such thing.
They don't exist.
Right.
And they do exist.
It's a lie.
And it's also one question that you use to vet a person in finance, you know, from Karen Hudis on down to see if they really know what's going on.
Because if they don't know about high yield trading programs, they don't know anything.
Well, yeah, and what I was going to say about the confession of an economic hitman, there's two parts to this, and I know we've talked about this before.
There's the raising the money part, which is the trading programs.
Then there is the use of the money for the humanitarian projects.
Okay, so let's look at that side for just a minute.
Let's say we do get our money into a trading program and we go for a year and we get 60-75% Or, well, let's say we get 150% a quarter, so we get 600%.
So, you know, we put in $100 million and we get back $600 million, okay?
Well, this has thrown off enough money to fund a project because there's a profit split between us and the Federal Reserve, and then the banks take a piece, the trading bank that...
The traders get money.
I mean, everybody involved in these transactions gets a piece, but it's like a quarter of a point.
It's a half a point.
Because when you're dealing with hundreds of millions of dollars, a quarter of a point is a lot of money.
So anyway, what happens?
So the project gets funded, and at the end of the day, the project raises X amount of money, $500 million.
The investor gets paid his part.
The Federal Reserve gets their part.
The traders get their part.
The banks get their part.
Everybody's happy.
And we just created 500 million, or whatever the case is, of new money.
That's what it is.
It's basically new money.
Okay, so what they do is they give this to A village in South America who needs a power plant.
And of course, the advanced guys like John Perkins goes in and he works with the tribal elders and he works with the local people and he does all the numbers and basically goes to the tribal elder and says, look, we're going to get you 500 million.
You're going to be a hero because all your people, all the people that you rule over are going to have electricity.
And so to get you to help us do this, we're going to slide you 50 million of this money.
Okay?
And let us know if there's anybody else we need to pay off, we can pay them off.
So anyway, the money comes over.
And so here we are in a third world country.
Well, you know, they don't have any Halliburton's or Bechtel's or any guys like that.
So who do you think gets the contracts to build the power plant in the first place?
It's our guys, right?
It's the Cabals guys, the Halliburtons, the usual suspects, okay?
The same guys who benefited in Vietnam and all these other places.
They're the ones who have their, because they're logistics.
It's the logistics part of the military-industrial complex that has to go in and has to set up the camps and the bases and the communications and all that.
Well, this is what they're doing.
Okay, so So they know going in that the numbers are not going to work, that these people are never going to be able to pay this loan off, right?
So what happens after five years or ten years?
Well, guess what?
The repo man comes, and that's the banksters, okay?
So follow this through now.
So you've got an investor who puts money into this deal, and they do the trading for 40 weeks or a year or two years or however long it takes to generate enough profit to fund the project.
All these people make money.
The Federal Reserve makes money.
The investor makes money.
The traders make money.
The banks make money.
Everybody makes money.
Okay, so then you've got John Perkins on the other end who's got a place, who's got a home for this money.
So the money goes there to whoever is supposed to get it based on the humanitarian project guidelines.
And then the American or the cabal companies, corporate people, come in and actually do the project.
So they're the ones who end up getting the money, right?
They get the money.
And they leave the third world country with the tab to pay it off.
So then if they can't pay it off, they just come in and repossess the plant and they can then, you know, lower the rates and get paid for the electricity that they're providing.
But the thing of it is they've got no investment in it.
They get it for free.
They've got no investment in it whatsoever.
Okay, but you've also not said that this is a key part as well, that the initial investor, my understanding is they think they're going to get a long-term investment of return, but it doesn't even last a year.
My understanding is the normal one lasts maybe three months to six months, and then they get cut out of the deal, and then they have no recourse.
Well, okay, now you're getting into another area.
Okay, most of them, as far as I know, and this could have changed, most of them are 40 weeks.
That's typically the way they're structured.
Now, some last longer, some last less time.
And, you know, I mean, I guess nobody wonders...
When there's a hurricane in Florida and the hurricane in Texas and Puerto Rico and there's an earthquake in Iran and all these buildings are damaged, I never hear anybody talk about Where's the money coming from to pay for this, right?
To rebuild.
Where's the money?
Well, they're creating it out of thin air.
And I always think of a project.
I always think of a trading program.
It's like, well, you know, there's going to be another trading program.
I see the hurricane hit Texas.
Well, there's another trading program.
And so that's the way they work it.
Now, of course...
It varies.
It can vary.
I mean, it can vary.
The amount of time and the returns vary.
Okay, but Falcone and I'm not sure who else was it that they did this, right?
Well, they tried.
They tried to get in a program, but they just stole their money.
And see what happens when you get into that program.
You have to sign an agreement, a non-disclosure agreement, where you're not going to disclose anything about that contract.
And if you do disclose it, then you'd lose the money.
Because, you know, you can't...
It's not like after you make a...
You do a program, you put $100 million in and you get $630 million out.
So now you've got $730 million.
It's not like you can go to the bank and say, hey, I want all my cash.
The money is in the bank, right?
So if you start talking about it and people find out, they just freeze your money and you don't get it.
Now, in some cases, if they think they can get away with it, they will just outright steal it.
That's what they did with Falcone.
That's what they did from the investor that we actually have a copy of the trading contract.
The reason we got a copy is because they didn't pay him.
He doesn't have to abide by what's in the contract because they didn't abide by it.
You have this situation where even those big players get ripped off.
Yes.
Yeah.
Right.
And the other thing that we haven't talked about just briefly is the fact that, you know, this is the whole Neil Keenan Indonesians, you know, that got involved.
And that's a very long story.
We're not going to get into it.
But basically, they were trying to get in a trading program.
That's what the Indonesians were trying to do with those, the bonds.
Right.
And they went strangely to Camelot Witnesses, which happened to be Ben Fulford first, and then Leo Zagami.
And they went to the Vatican Bank, and basically, isn't it, you know, it was Vice President, you know, what's his name?
Anyway, who, you know, they were aced out.
They were not allowed in, the Indonesians, in the end of the day.
So their money got stolen, so to speak, and frozen, right?
Anyway, it's a long story, and we're not going to go down that road, but Paladin has really investigated this deeply.
And we did a lot of work on it together, kind of tracing things.
And so I want to move on to the history of the White Hats, but I wanted to give a background so that people understood that when you're saying that you worked in this area, this is actually a very important funnel of money.
Into black projects and basically into the secret space program.
And I believe Catherine Austin Fitz is aware of this, although she doesn't describe it, doesn't talk about it.
Yeah, it was funny when you asked her.
I think she may have been the only one that I'm aware of that you've interviewed that actually acknowledged that they exist.
But then she said she didn't want to talk about it and they were too dangerous.
And those were You know, that's an accurate statement.
But you're absolutely right.
People get ripped off, too.
And Kenan is a good story.
Now, it's interesting that you mentioned the bonds because, see, people have bonds.
Man, that's a whole other story, too, with the bonds out there and the bonds out of the Philippines and the boxes and the gold and all that stuff.
Yeah, that's a huge...
Yeah, that's a sidetrack.
But you're right.
I want to just say, though, Carrie, the bonds...
Are not the same as cash in your bank account, okay?
The bonds take another step, and that other step is that you've got to take those to somebody who will give you value for them, use them as collateral to give you cash, and then you can take the cash into the trading program.
I know, but what's kind of funny is the Indonesians had this huge amount that their bond is worth, and they were willing to take so much less Just to get it, you know, in cash return, just to get it in a trading program.
And they were locked out.
They were not allowed.
There's reasons why they're not allowed.
And I think it has, there is sort of a, it's kind of a white man's game, if you want to call it that.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
There's no question about that.
I don't know this to be honest.
I mean, I can't confirm this because I don't know of every single one they've ever done, but they have...
I mean, my understanding is you're exactly right, which is the white people.
They won't let the Arabs do it.
The Eastern, you know, they won't let the Chinese or the Japanese in.
Now, I could be wrong that, you know, that could have happened.
Could have changed also.
Yeah, but it's an exclusive club.
It's bloodline related and that's really, you know, all there is to it.
But the interesting thing is when people like the person who gave us a copy of their contract, when they get ripped off, it kind of Confirms that because he's Indonesian.
As a matter of fact, he's royalty in Indonesia.
Right.
The person that we're talking about.
Yeah.
So anyway, yeah.
But you brought up the bonds.
And the point I wanted to make, and then we can move on, is I wanted to say that people will...
I mean, I've seen people try to use diamonds.
I've seen them try to use real estate in order to get cash to then put into the trading programs.
And whenever you have those kinds of documents that are very much able to be counterfeit, it's just rife with fraud all over the place.
And very little of this ever gets reported in the news because then they'd have to go down a road they would never want to go down.
Right.
So usually what they do is they, you know, the FBI comes in, arrests you.
They provide a press release that they give to the paper.
The paper puts it in under a reporter's byline that the FBI wrote themselves.
And it's a done deal.
And, you know, I mean, and then that's a whole nother story.
I mean, that's partially to taint the jury pool.
But anyway, we can move on.
I mean, you know, I just want to say that, you know, I don't know where things are at at this moment, but what we're telling people right now is actually dangerous information to know, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that's why the people who know it don't talk about it.
Right.
But, you know, the thing of it is, I mean, Lord James talked about it, so it's already out there.
And I'm more comfortable talking about it now than if...
Hillary was president or Obama was.
So it's still not.
Fine.
So let's go down, continue.
Now you've talked to, you know, this is kind of where your background is and what your knowledge base is, because it's very pertinent to what you're then going to talk about.
Okay, which is?
The history?
No, the actual...
I'm expecting you to do sort of a chronology of the history of the White Hat reports.
I don't expect you to go into every report, but you can highlight some of the important documents or things that you brought forward and I don't know where it might go from there.
Okay, well, in report, if anybody wants to follow along or they want to write this down, I think it was in report 28, because we started putting out information.
I mean, we started putting out information about bank accounts.
We started putting out, we named the banks, we named the amount of money.
I mean, we had a whole list in one of the reports about the Vatican Bank and who had what money in the Vatican Bank.
And of course, the Vatican Bank, I think we need to We need to really recognize that they are the guys where a lot of money is parked.
Because the Vatican Bank is inside...
It's inside that protected, sovereign area like the City of London is in London and D.C. is in the United States.
So they are completely sovereign, the Vatican Bank.
So they don't really report to anybody.
It's just they have to comply with normal banking rules.
But that doesn't mean that they can't hide money and launder money for people and all this kind of stuff.
And that's exactly what they do.
So we print it.
We printed information about the bank accounts at the Vatican Bank.
And the thing of it is with the Vatican Bank, people off.
You can make your payoffs.
You can put them into the bank.
And, you know, as long as you've got somebody working with you at the bank, there's no way that you can ever trace them because you can...
Send a wire and you can put it at the attention of some bank officer and he basically becomes the catcher.
It goes into a trust account and then from there he can take it out of that trust account and disperse it within the bank to other accounts so that you can't trace it from the outside.
They can do the same thing when they send it out of the Vatican Bank to another bank.
Now, we were tracing all these movements of money because they started trading Falcone's money and they started distributing it.
And if you remember, Okay, now, I'm sorry to interrupt you here, but this is very interesting.
It looks like they've taken your website down.
Oh, boy.
Well, there you go.
So, I mean, as someone tried to go there besides me, at least I'm being blocked right now.
I can't get in.
It's called White Hats, with an S at the end, hatsreport.com, correct?
Yeah.
And I just tried to get there in two different ways.
I'm not getting there.
You're right.
It's down.
All right.
As we speak.
So that's where everyone listening decide whether we're telling the truth or not.
And judge for yourself.
Why would they hit the site, you know, if it wasn't the truth?
So that's, you know, and just for the heads up for the person that called me today and said, oh, they've taken down the cabal.
Well, maybe they haven't quite taken down the cabal.
Maybe they're still at war with the cabal.
So, you know, I wouldn't, you know, raise the victory flag quite yet.
But nonetheless, we are still alive and we are talking about these kinds of things.
So they're probably fighting the good fight.
So I'm glad to see it.
I just think they need to bring the American people in on it.
In on the fight, but don't let me get on a soapbox here.
So, okay, to continue.
So your side is down, but you were saying something about Falcone.
Go ahead.
Yeah, okay.
Well, so we started watching the movement of the money with Falcone.
And during 2012, if you remember, when McCain ran against Obama, and McCain could not decide on who his VP choice was, And it was at the very end of the time when he should have picked someone, he picked Palin, Sarah Palin from Alaska, which really nobody knew.
Well, the person that he wanted to pick was Romney.
But they couldn't vet Romney because Romney had gotten the proceeds of the trading programs from Bush based on the fact that he helped rip off Ed Falcone.
So if he would have done disclosures, he would have had a hard time explaining where he got all that money.
So they couldn't pick Romney for vice president.
That's who McCain wanted to, and they kept trying to vet him, and they kept trying to figure out how they were going to do it.
And they weren't able to get it done.
So McCain finally gave up and went to pick Sarah Palin, but they want to do Romney.
Romney did eventually release his tax returns, but he didn't release the years in which he got paid.
What he did is he released the years after that, and what was so interesting was in those years after that, it shows his income coming from Overseas accounts, okay?
And it was interest income.
So if you take that and you say, okay, and nobody ever did this, but it was millions, okay?
Nobody ever said, well, wait a minute.
You know, based on the returns that you can get at a bank, which are what?
1% or 2% or 3%.
How much principal would have to be in those banks to generate that much interest?
And nobody ever did that.
But Romney was able to hide it because he reported his income.
Off of those accounts, but he never reported what the principal was, okay?
So he was able to avoid it because if he would have ran for vice president, he would have disclosed his tax returns or his income.
And when he did that, he would have to explain where he came up with, I don't know how much they ended up paying him, $400 million or more.
He would have had to explain where the $400 million came.
And he couldn't.
So that's why McCain didn't choose him.
So anyway, that's the story with that.
So as we went forward, you know, we were getting a lot of flack.
We were getting a lot of flack from people saying, well, you know, you guys are just making this stuff up.
You don't have the real, you know, you don't have the real information.
This is just all BS. So at some point we said, okay, we're going to start releasing documents.
And we did.
We started releasing documents as they related to the tropos.
I mean, and that was $83 billion, I believe, that was sent from From overseas to the US and the money just disappeared out of the system, just disappeared.
It was supposed to be wire transferred to an account.
I forget where, in the United States, and they initiated the wire from overseas, and it didn't get to the account that it was supposed to, and they could never find the money, and nobody wants to talk about it.
It's the same situation with Leo Wanta.
The money just is in the system, and it gets diverted, and nobody knows where it went.
So anyway, we were reporting on all these things.
And in the meantime, in the background, Falcone was trying to get the FBI and all the authorities to investigate this and do something about it.
He was writing letters everywhere.
He had made flash drives that were given to all of our representatives in both the House and the Senate.
They didn't do anything about it.
He wrote letters to the Supreme Court.
He wrote letters to...
Roberts, the copies of those letters are in our reports.
I was going to go through the reports as we were talking, but we can't do that.
So, some of these documents were there.
Now, I'm building up to our grand finale, which was February of 2012.
Now, if people care, they can write down with right-hat report number 28, which at the bottom of the page, Under white hat comments, I explain what our objective was.
And it's number one, to let the bad guys know that we knew what they were doing.
Number two, to put pressure on Congress and law enforcement to do something about it.
And then, of course, the third priority was the readers themselves.
So what we were doing is it wasn't necessarily for public consumption as much as it was for public exposure.
To let these guys know that we knew what was going on.
I mean, there were times when I got a call at 3 o'clock in the afternoon saying, we're going to release a report tonight.
And it's like, okay, get me the information.
They would send me the information.
I would work for the next five or six hours with other people.
We would proof it.
We would rewrite it and get it out that night because it was...
Information that had just occurred.
It was talking about events that had just occurred that day and we wanted to make sure we got it out.
In, you know, as quick as we could so that they knew that we knew what they were doing, okay?
So we were playing a head game with them is really what it amounted to.
And we had people, you know, in various places who were giving us feedback on what was going on and what they were talking about and, you know, them carrying it around in the White House and in the Capitol, carrying around the reports, what are we going to do about this and all this kind of stuff.
So, We were getting feedback, and so we were building up to Report 36, and we knew it was coming.
If you go back and look at 30, I think 32 and 33, or maybe 33 and 34, we started giving the readers a hint, this was in January of 2012, that Falcone was in London, and some other things were in London, and that there was going to be a release of some important information.
Coming down the pike.
And we put that in two or three reports.
I know we did it in 33, and we did it in 34, and we may have done it in 35.
Okay, well, then on February 16, 2012, Lord James gets up in front of the House of Lords, and he does not have...
I mean, I knew at one point what the subject was, and he just stood up, got 10 minutes, and he went into pure heart.
Just...
Launched into a 10-minute diatribe about Pure Heart, the Federal Reserve, the fraud, and everything associated with the $15 trillion that was wire transferred from the U.S. to Pure Heart in Europe in $5 trillion tranches over a three-week period between April and May of 2009.
Now, at that point in time, The total debt of the United States was $10 trillion.
And these guys created out of thin air $15 trillion and sent it to Pure Heart in Europe.
So that was the big exposure.
We thought, okay, now something's going to happen here.
And of course, that information was given to the 535 congressional people and senators.
We spread that as far and wide as we could.
And, you know, all we heard were crickets.
Right, and so, but just let me say that there's a lot of people who talked about the Lord James, you know, statements, and they're all on YouTube.
You can watch it on YouTube.
If you haven't seen it, it's worth watching at the House of Lords.
And they don't know that you guys are the ones who got him the documents.
Yeah, I know.
I mean, it's interesting.
You know, Gordon Duff wrote up an article about it, which was wrong, and then other people have talked about it.
And nobody wants to give us credit, and that's fine.
I mean, it doesn't really matter, but if anybody wants to see the real documents, you know, they're very interesting because a SWIFT has a lot of information on it.
And I think one of the important things on those SWIFTs We're that the security code used to make these, to do these transactions, the security clearance code was a Homeland Security of the United States government security code.
Homeland Security, and it says it right there on the SWIFT. So, and, you know, Lord James explains that The way they offset this or underpinned it if you want to look at it that way is they used fictitious gold from The person who entered into the trading program contract with them six years earlier,
because during that vetting process, they found out that he had gold on deposit at a bank of Indonesia.
So they used that gold and They multiplied it by 10 or 100.
They used that gold to underpin the $15 trillion to offset it on the balance sheet, and then they sent it over to Pureheart.
Okay, so we can stop there if you have questions, then we can go on about Pureheart.
Right.
Okay.
So, but I do also want you to say, you know, those names of accounts there that, you know, that's also been documented and isn't it that guy, um, he, it was in Nexus magazine, I think originally, but it's, uh, David Gurrier or Gur...
Guyette?
Guyette.
Yeah.
Who also kind of popularized some of this information.
Oh yeah.
He's deep black lies.
I think, um, I've corresponded with him, yes.
To give him credit on his part.
And then all the names, they're very weird account names like Baby and all this kind of stuff, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, White Boy and...
White Spiritual Boy, which, you know, is another, you know, that's WSB. Now what does WSB stand for?
Wall Street Bankers.
So that's how they have them coded.
You know, they do this cute, cutesy stuff, okay?
And they think it's funny.
They laugh about it.
Oh, yeah.
They think it's a joke on all of us.
But yeah, white spiritual boy.
And just like pure heart.
I mean, that's exactly the opposite of what they are.
They don't have a pure heart.
They probably don't even have a heart.
And of course, the Five Star Trust and some of these other things.
Well, it's like the Patriot Act.
I mean, the Patriot Act is put in place to go after the Patriots is what it is.
I mean, it's just the way they do it.
It's their own private joke.
Okay, so...
Okay, so Goyette, or however you say his name, is there anything to be said along these lines with regard to the things he released quite a number of years ago?
Yeah, there's a...
If it's still up, and I haven't been to his site in a while, but he's done very good work.
There is a deposition of General Cokie, General Earl Cokie, Who was deposed.
He used to run the Nugent Hand Bank, if you remember that bank.
It sounds like it's a Vietnamese bank.
And he was running it for trading programs.
And there's a deposition that he was involved with.
And Guyette got a hold of his deposition.
And it is the most fascinating thing you'll ever read.
It talks about the trading programs.
And what...
And I knew a guy who knew General Cokie, by the way, that used to talk to him all the time.
And what General Cokie said was, it was more difficult to get in to see John Reed at Citibank than it was to see the President of the United States.
So that tells you who runs the show.
Well, yeah, and that gets into...
There's a book, and...
I think it's Daniel Estelin, but I could double check while I'm online here, because I don't want to get the reporter's name wrong.
But he wrote, it was fiction, and it's called something like, what is it called?
It's not Trail of the Octopus.
That's another great book, but I'll remember it.
It's got Phoenix or something like that in the title.
Anyway, He basically documents, you know, the death of this reporter who broke open this story as well in the United States and then was killed.
And this all gets into the promise software and the AI, the beginnings of AI and the financial...
you know, reporting that basically is targeting all the people around the world.
But, you know, got anyway, it's a huge story.
So all of this trail of the octopus is linked up.
And one of the main tentacles seemed to go to this head of Citibank, strangely.
Yeah, Reed was, I mean, I don't, you know, I wasn't as, I mean, at that point in time, when I was heavily into this, which I still am to a certain degree, but not as much as I used to, as far as actively doing investigations, although I can still do them.
Reed was, he was like, gosh, I don't want to use the term God, but he was just like the all-powerful guy that everybody used to talk about at City.
It's interesting that General Cokie, by the way, is the one who confirmed that.
It's interesting in a deposition under oath that General Cokie basically confirmed that.
I mean, it's funny to read it the way he talks about it, because he's just, you know, he's a hard-ass military guy, and he's just very matter-of-fact.
I mean, you can almost hear him, you know, in the deposition, and David Guyette has that on his side, at least he used to, and he's done great work, and that's one of the best things that he does have, in my opinion, because it does prove that there are...
Well, that doesn't prove, but it indicates that there are people who are aware of the trading programs.
Yeah, and actually I found the book.
It is called The Octopus Deception.
If you want to read it, it's a great read.
And it is Daniel Estelin, is the reporter who wrote the book.
He wrote it as fiction because otherwise he'd be killed.
Right.
And it follows the trail of the money and the death of This reporter whose name at the exact moment is escaping me, but I'll get it very, you know, while we're talking and say it.
So, because, you know, that was a whole trail that I went down years, even before Camelot.
And I think it's really an important story, but we can't go into all that here.
But anyway, so, okay, so continue the story.
So now where do you go?
Okay, so...
When we put out a report, and we put out 36, and 36 kind of in the beginning, we had been holding this information because everybody was asking, who are you?
What are your credentials?
I mean, we were getting bombarded from everything.
Corner.
And so we started dribbling out some documents and then once Lord James went to the House of Lords and did his speech then in 40, I think we put some documents out in 36 and then we did a full document dump in 41.
So anyway, when we identified it went to Pure Heart, Pure Heart at that point in time really didn't mean much to us because we didn't know, you know, it's just, it's okay, so it's on this swift and it's Pure Heart.
Now, I think I have talked about this and it was maybe when we were talking about 48 back in the radio days when we lost that one.
But anyway, what happened was we had been tracking the global settlements and we were getting information that somebody over in I can't remember now where it was.
I think it was Sweden maybe or Norway or somewhere over in there, was stopping the release of the trading program.
So we basically had set up surveillance on this house.
We knew where it was coming from.
But we could never see the person.
Well, as it turns out, once we found out about Pureheart, we got the name Pureheart, we started checking into that.
And it happens to track back to General Rossier, and that was the same person that we had set up surveillance on overseas to find out who it was.
And we found out later the reason we never could see him is because there was an underground tunnel system, and every time he left his house, he went downstairs, went into the tunnel, and out.
You know, a block or two away and walked his dog and went to the park and did all this other stuff and then went down into the tunnel and entered his house.
So it was kind of a cathartic moment because, you know, if anybody remembers Foundation X, where Lord James got up in the House of Lords and talked about this foundation that wanted to give him I don't know how many billions of dollars at the U.K., So Foundation X was Pure Heart, is pure, was Pure Heart.
Okay, that's who Foundation X is.
He says, I will call them Foundation X. That's not their real name, but I will refer to them as Foundation X. So over in that part of the world, our guys were on Pure Heart.
From that point forward and so that's why Lord James was the one who came up and talked about Pure Heart because basically that faction in the UK had stayed on that Pure Heart thing and they were trying to find out who are they and who are these people.
So anyway, it kind of came together that the same people who were stopping the global settlements were also Pure Heart.
And so once we put that information out there, we got, I don't want to say deluge, but we got contacted by a lot of people who knew Pure Heart, but they didn't realize of, I mean, they had done business with Pure Heart or at least attempted to do business they had done business with Pure Heart or at least attempted to do business with them, but they didn't really And they were like, oh my gosh, we didn't have any idea these guys were disconnected, right?
So there was one weekend that they all flew in from different parts of the country, brought documents.
We sat down and broke bread and, you know, that for a whole weekend and went through a lot of stuff.
So we ended up then going down the Pure Heart Trail, and that's what took us into what was going to be 48, because going down the Pure Heart Trail, we couldn't figure out who this General Rossier was.
There was no background on him whatsoever.
And he held himself out to be a general and all these, I mean, he's got a story.
Well, you know, if you're a fictitious character, I guess you can make up any background you want.
And it was, you know, it was, you know, it was just unbelievable.
And if we do 48, when we do 48, we'll come out with all the stuff that he claimed.
So anyway, we were able to then find out about this group of five, the five-star trust.
Who was in the group of five?
Well, Rossier was in the group of five, but that wasn't his name then.
Well, what was his name?
Well, it ends up to be his name was Ferrara, Roberto Ferrara.
And I know it's not a name that anybody knows, and that's by design, but back in probably the late 50s, early 60s, and this is what 48 is about.
It's about the shadow government when it was started, and it was started by what they call, well, it wasn't, I don't think these were the guys who started it.
You know, they were going to put it into process.
And that was George Bush, Richard Armitage, William Colby, Ferrara, and Edward Lansdale.
Which, you know, I'll dovetail just a bit.
It's interesting that both Lansdale and Bush are connected in some circles to the Kennedy assassination.
What a surprise.
And that's, in essence, the coup that really put the secret government in place, in my opinion.
And Kennedy was the last gasp of what America could be and wasn't to be at that time.
And whether we have another shot at it now is in question, but a possibility.
Just want to throw out Daniel And Casolaro is the journalist that I was trying to remember his name to do with the trail of the octopus.
And there's a lot more to that story.
So if you want to see that, read that book, The Octopus Deception.
It's about his death and a well-written book by The journalist Daniel Estelin.
So just wanted to make that footnote.
So what we're really disclosing is a lot of really good stuff here.
So go ahead.
So you're saying the Gang of Five, and you named them, and those names are really important if you're someone who wants to research and understand how this whole thing kind of got together.
And I do think there's more to it, but for what you...
You and I have talked about this and the origins and who was involved.
When we do 48, we're going to put that in 48.
The origins are not...
Those five, the origins go deeper than that.
It's just that those were the five who were going to put in place.
And so what that is today, it's what we've referred to in our reports as the cabal.
Other people refer to it as the shadow government.
And now the term is the deep state.
But this is who we're talking about.
And it's interesting how if you go back and They've done some of this.
You've gone back and look at Lansdale's history and where he was.
It's very interesting because it sort of fits the profile that you would expect to see.
Some of these guys have been on the radar.
Bush Sr.
has been on the radar.
Colby was on the radar.
Armitage, to a certain degree.
Lansdale, not so much.
After they assassinated Kennedy, I think he retired in 64, 65.
So he didn't stay much longer after that.
And then Ferrara was basically the guy who they knew nothing about.
Now Ferrara got himself jammed up in a federal case in Chicago in the late 90s.
He served time for a fraud.
It sounds like a The information I've been able to get and that was through PACER. I wasn't able to read it.
It was so old that it was in the archives and you'd actually have to go to Chicago and order it out of the archives to read.
All the documents in there, but it sounded like he got nailed on a trading program.
He spent some time in prison, placed him to a halfway house, which I believe was in California.
And then he died six months later.
Well, he didn't really die.
He just remade himself into general Lauren Russi.
So, um, that's what 48 is about.
We've got documents.
Um, we've got a lot of information, you know, you, Yeah, you were breaking up, but yes.
So, you know, I wrote a report for that and all that kind of stuff.
So, you know, which is called Black Projects Follow the Money.
That report is still available on my website.
You can just do a search for that name.
And just for the people that know, that we're saying the link to the whitehatsreport.com is actually...
I typed it wrong in the link, but actually the link itself goes to the right place.
So I know I'm correcting it as we speak here, but I just wanted you to know that it always went to the right place, even though it's typed wrong.
It's kind of funny.
Is it still down?
I assume it is, but anyone who wants to go there and check, they can.
Now, okay, so where are you going to go from here?
We're working on something right now that's going to make the $15 trillion look like pocket change, literally.
And I don't know.
That's going to take a while to come out.
And, you know, based on everything that's happening now with the deep state, the cabal, the shadow government showing itself in every single phase of operation from the media to the Senate to the Congress to the FBI to the DOJ. I mean, you know, Trump is just making these people crazy.
And I am writing a blog post that I'll It's going to be a long one about exposure versus disclosure.
What we're seeing is exposure.
So they're getting exposed everywhere.
Your site is back up by the way.
I just tested it.
Oh, wonderful.
Okay, good.
All right.
So, 48 would have been about the deep state.
It would have been about the origin of that as far as what we've been told and what we know.
We've got documents.
I've got to deal with, I don't know, 300 or 400 pages of documents that we wanted to release with that.
I think I've shared some of them with you.
You know what I'm talking about.
Um, that show the kind of things that these guys have been doing over the years.
We've got, you know, if you do five star trust, you can, you know, you, you can check that.
There's all kinds of information on the intermittent about the five star trust, uh, which was the origin of the five that I, the group of five.
So anyway, that, that led us down that path.
Now we were going to do 48.
We decided not to for various reasons.
Um, Well, I mean, I want you to say because there were death threats.
That was part of it.
That was not all of it.
That was part of it.
You always bring that up.
You know, okay, here's what happened.
We were advised not to do it.
That's what it amounted to from a very...
Credible, trusted source.
We were advised that it would be a bad idea to do that.
I think those were the exact words.
Or it would not be a good idea to do it.
So other things were going on.
You know, one of those things with that is that you might expose people that you don't want to expose.
And so it's hard to speak for them.
I mean, we know the danger.
We know the deal.
We can go ahead and do what we're going to do and take the consequences, but we can't, you know, kind of unilaterally make that decision for everybody else.
I think at this point in time, that situation has changed just a little bit, and I think that it's timely now for that to come out because I think if we do release that, it will give everybody a roadmap On how we got from there to here and have a little bit of an understanding about it and maybe give people an idea of how vast this thing is because it basically
controls every part of our life.
And this is what Trump's fighting right now.
And I think everybody has to understand that.
You've got to look at this.
When somebody fights Trump, they're standing up and they're identifying themselves as a bad guy.
That's what's going on.
And that includes McCain.
It includes Graham.
It includes...
It includes Schumer, it includes Pelosi, it includes Flake, it includes Corker, it includes any of these people, Ryan, it includes any of these people who are openly going against Trump.
Anybody in the Justice Department, the FBI, all those people, they're just identifying themselves as deep state tools, is what they're doing.
So that's what's happening.
Looking back, it would be nice to have 48 out there because everybody could read 48 and they can understand what they're seeing today.
We got contacted.
We were contacted.
I was contacted by someone who was running down some things on 9-11.
We had a conference call.
T-Man and I had a conference call with that person tonight.
He's trying to pursue some things to force people to talk about 9-11.
He wants to do it, you know, legally.
And he wanted a referral.
And, you know, everything the guy, I mean, he's in construction, so everything the guy's saying is true.
He knows that those buildings don't come down because planes fly into them.
He knows the building codes.
So he knows it's BS. So he came to us to go, do you have a DC lawyer?
Do you have somebody you can refer us to so I can take this to court and get subpoenas and depositions and do all this kind of stuff?
And it was kind of interesting because we had to basically say, you know, you You might as well save your money because you're not going to be successful because you're fighting the whole swamp.
And it's interesting.
It just was indicative to me that here's a person who so clearly sees that 9-11 was not what they're presenting it to be, yet he doesn't see the bigger picture of what's really going on.
And I don't understand that.
It's like, how can you not...
How can you not understand the big picture if you've been given a glimpse into what's going on?
How can you not open your mind up to the fact that, you know, it's bigger than just that?
If they can pull that off, they can pull anything off.
Right.
You know, and the amount of the control.
And so it's just, I don't know, you know, I don't know.
I just get it just amazing to me every day.
So anyway, our, you know, our advice to him was just sit tight for about four to six We're really at an age of disclosure, meaning disclosure of truths.
It is fascinating.
This is really involved.
We also haven't said anything about MJ-12.
You know, the creation of that organization and how instrumental that is.
So the Gang of Five has to interplay with that organization.
Yes, yes, yes.
I mean, the metamorphosis of this shadow government of the Group of Five, of MJ-12, it all happens at the same time.
Yeah.
Yeah, it is absolutely connected.
And then there's the whole PROMIS, you want to call it PROMIS software, PROMIS software story, which gets into the whole...
Black projects situation as well as targeting.
It actually comes to the drone stories that you're hearing right now where, you know, people are being targeted around, you know, they're basically the beginnings of that targeting system was put in place through the Promise software.
Believe it or not.
And that became what is in essence the AI that is now being used.
So that trail is really very fascinating and it's long and winding, but it's worth pursuing if you're interested.
And I always look for people who will come on my show to talk about that, but they are very few and far between, and a lot of these people, they won't come forward, or they only come forward for a tiny piece of it.
And there's been a couple times when I've had a few people who kind of followed the trail all the way.
But, yeah, it's very difficult.
Of course, Daniel Estelin could speak to that as well.
And I have tried to get him on my show, but to no avail.
I mean, I never know...
And someone's putting in the chat, Field McConnell.
And yes, those guys are really on a lot of things.
Very, very good, you know, investigators.
And so, you know, kudos to them.
I have had them on my show, in case you don't know that, you know, a couple times.
But yeah, sure.
Try that again.
Yeah.
Anyway, so now you're in this juncture.
So how long was it that you did not publish for?
Well, I think it was about three or four years, three years maybe.
Yeah, it's quite extraordinary, you know, because I can't believe that this thing has lasted as long as it has.
I don't know, you know, because you were very hot and heavy, right, for, I don't know, was it two years?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
It was just a little shy of two years.
We did our first report in November of 2010, and I think our last report was in the latter part of 2012 when we stopped.
And so this is where people don't, you know, it's important to know your history, and especially this kind of history that's really revealing the deep state, what people like to call the deep state right now.
The secret government and where all the money goes and all of these kinds of things.
So this is not the whole picture, obviously, but it's a very important part of it.
And the White Hats have been instrumental in uncovering some of this.
And so that basically makes you guys, your organization, heroes, American heroes, and even heroes overseas because you've got a lot of overseas guys, I think, that are feeding you information, right?
Right.
Oh, yeah.
And it's interesting.
We're thinking the same thing.
I do want to mention that we have some people overseas who are doing a lot of the heavy lifting.
And I know you know who I'm talking about, but they are the ones who ran this Pure Heart thing down, who have doggedly stayed on certain issues and basically spend their Every waking hour, which is 18 to 20 hours a day, working on all of this stuff.
We're just the conduit to get the information out.
There are a lot of people involved and they're spread out all over the world because of the contacts that they have.
But a lot of the stuff that we get comes from the UK and they are, I have to say, they are probably our strongest allies in this whole endeavor.
Right.
And I'm glad you brought that up.
I mean, because recognition definitely needs to go in that direction.
Okay, but you're also, I mean, you're not just a conduit because you've also yourself done a great deal of the heavy lifting in terms of the forensic financial analysis of all of this, which nobody could do without you, I would say, in your organization.
And obviously you and, well, very briefly, I think I can say T-Man.
I did do an interview with T-Man.
He got in a lot of trouble for that interview.
But I think it's still on my website.
I can't remember.
I think it is.
And that was a really interesting phone call.
There's more to this story.
It gets into...
It gets into what was supposed to be a complete changeover in the currencies around the world, right?
Yeah.
And all of that seems to, well, got stalled, and then there's a lot of disinfo about all of that out there, etc., etc., and so on.
So...
We've been going for about an hour and a half.
I do want to ask the people in the chat if they have any questions.
So if you do have any questions for Paladin, do you want to put them in all caps with a question mark?
It would help.
And I will try to ask your question.
And...
You know, one thing, Carrie, I listened to your excellent interview yesterday with Mr.
Snodgrass.
Yes.
And, you know, at one point he talked about, you know, that he did that for pay, and then he got $20,000 a month when he was in the States, and he got $50,000 a month when he was overseas.
And, you know, nobody ever thinks, where does this money come from?
Yeah.
And, you know, I mean, it comes from the trading programs, you know.
I mean, they do, they move the drugs, they have their, I mean, I'll tell you, the CIA, I got to give them credit for one thing.
They are probably the most creative entrepreneurs on this planet.
The big money that they get for the black projects comes from You cannot generate that kind of return on your investment any other place, including drugs.
When you have a guy like that and he tells you that $20,000 a month, and this was back in the 80s and the 90s, not that that's pretty good money today, that's a quarter of a million dollars a year, but back then it would have even been I mean,
I don't know.
You know, it's got to come from somewhere.
So these guys, I mean, this is why they do the trading programs.
They have all this money and they can pay these mercenaries big money to do it.
And that's the way, you know, that's the way that it's done.
And, you know, I kind of chuckled yesterday when you were interviewing him.
You know, you were kind of going down a path about, well, you know, why don't you know more about the operation than you know?
Well, you know, that is the hallmark of a false flag is that because, you know, let's take the Kennedy assassination, for example.
You have the shooters, you got the spotters, you got the people who bring the guns, you got the people who are the decoys, you got the people who make the false identifications, you got the people that help in the getaway.
And there's five or six factions, and I know Ole could probably explain this better than me, but all of these people have a function to perform, and that's all they really know.
So they can surmise maybe the rest of the operation after it happens or after they get experience with it.
But he's absolutely right.
They don't tell them Sure.
You know, it's need to know.
You don't need to know what the other people are doing.
This is your job.
You just do your job and get out of there.
And, you know, he tells it from the standpoint that they get caught.
They get caught.
They can't rat out the whole thing.
And he's absolutely right.
So each one of those factions I named, they have a supervisor, a handler that tells them what to do.
And all those handlers then are the ones who meet with the top people who do all the planning.
And then it filters down It filters down that way.
Now, the offset to that or the downside to doing an operation that way is that if something goes wrong, these separate factions can't help each other because they don't see the big picture, okay?
So that's always the weakness of that plan.
However...
If you control the court system and you control the law enforcement, you can always cover up any problems that happen to an op.
But that's the offset.
Because the choice is you either bring the guys in and tell them everything that's going on.
So if something goes wrong, they can...
You know, go to Plan B or they can go to their contingency plan and cover for somebody else or help somebody else or whatever, okay?
But the thing of it is, because they have that protection of the law enforcement and the court system, they don't need to worry about that, okay?
So that weakness that they have is those are the things that we see as, you know, people who look at these false flags, who look at Las Vegas, who look at Sandy Hook, who look at 9-11, who look at the Kennedy assassination.
Those are the things that we see.
Those are the things that jump out, the mistakes, okay?
Sure.
And so, you know, those are the things to look for in the false flag.
And there's always going to be that weakness.
There are always going to be things that they can't plan for.
They've got that handled because nobody knows what's going on.
If the worst thing that happens is that somebody gets caught, they can only give a part of what the story is or what the op is.
The thing of it is, like Oswald, you get caught, you get shot, you get silenced.
I appreciate that, but I have to say that there is another side to that, and that's the human side.
And what my experience is, and some of the back-channel information I've gotten, is that That's true.
That's the formula But actually then you have to enter in human nature and human nature likes to talk and So what you get are some of these guys especially when they keep doing the operations, you know They've been on the road for a long time and they they start to get to know each other and they start to see the signs and signals and they start to share information very carefully and between themselves and so this is when you'll get a guy especially guy who's a psychic as he turns
out to be which is you know Cody so you're gonna get Cody who is gonna know a lot more and he also kind of went up a ladder you could say in responsibility And so I have to say that, yeah, he probably kept his mouth shut.
He was careful and all of that stuff.
But they don't quite stay as dumb as they're supposed to.
There's going to be levels at which they start to get more hip to what's really going on.
And they do share information.
And this is where, in the end, he got caught.
Well, he got nailed for supposedly knowing too much about About who was behind the scenes, which is the Clintons in his case.
So, you know, yes and no.
I agree with you.
I understand the formula, but I think, you know, you got to bring the human nature into it.
And I mean, they make movies about this, right?
Where someone finds out too much.
They, you know, they stumble on knowing too much about the situation.
Well, yeah, but you got to understand too is the more that they, I mean, it's just, you know, it's like any other organized crime situation.
The more they prove their worth, the higher up on the hierarchy of the chain they go, okay?
Right.
So yes, as they go higher, they're going to get more and more information.
But they're still only going to be limited to what they actually do and then what they can find out about from their colleagues.
But they know that whatever they hear and hearsay from their colleagues, they're not going to talk about anyway because it's not going to do any good in a court of law because it's just hearsay anyway.
It's not direct evidence.
So that's what he was trying to say.
And it was interesting.
I had to chuckle a couple of times because you would ask him a question and he would hesitate and they would give you a one word answer.
And it's interesting because I have done the same thing with you and I even made a mention of it to you after the show that I do that sometimes when you ask me a question.
It's like I go into court mode where the other side is asking me a question and it's better that I don't elaborate.
I just say yes.
I know, but I have to also say that there's also this, you know, what we're getting is a programmed answer.
In other words, he's replying with what he's been programmed to say about that.
When anybody asks him, does he know anything?
No, and the reason he doesn't know anything is because blah, blah, blah.
And so when he repeats that several times, and then that's a program.
That's what I call, that's a mind control program.
And so that is covering up incidents in which things leaked through and he gradually, you know, got hit.
That's when whenever you get a hesitation and then you get a yes or no and you get a one word answer.
That's your cue then to dive into that and ask him more questions.
And he probably would would give you answers.
OK, well, he did.
As you saw the interview.
These are the kinds of conversations Paladin and I have.
You know, Paladin used to do some interrogations himself.
So he is quite...
You know, he doesn't just sort of describe his experiences about that too much at all.
But I have to say that that's where, you know...
In other words, being an interviewer and being an interrogator...
They're not exactly the same thing, obviously.
But you can see how skills that you can use in one can be useful in the other.
And it is very interesting.
And in the end, yesterday, we got some information that had not been disclosed previously.
Having to do with remote viewers and the skill set that this person has.
And I would venture to say, and I think Cody's a lovely guy, and he's really trying to do the right thing at this point.
And I think that there is a lot of buried stuff there, and Duncan O'Finian comes to mind.
You can't get around it, because I'm dealing with these kind of characters a lot.
Over the past 12 years that I've been doing this.
So I see the signs.
The signs of forgetfulness.
The signs of something's buried under something else.
Yeah, well, I think you're right.
And I think some of that probably has to do with the fact that he reached a point where he woke up and realized what he was doing.
And it dawned on him When they approached him to do Oklahoma City, that they had been doing these kinds of things and that he had been a part of it.
And I think that gave him a wake-up call to say, you know, these guys aren't very good guys.
You know, I mean, it's because they lure him in with the money, the money and the adventure and all that kind of stuff.
I know how it goes.
These people, he gets in and he starts having fun and he gets paid good money and at some point in time he wakes up and he looks back on some of the things he did and it's hard for him I would assume it's hard for him to come to terms with some of the things he did, because at that point, then he says, I wonder what else, you know, happened during this opera.
This is all I did, but I wonder what else happened.
Well, some of it's in history.
Some of it's actually come out, you know, over the years.
And of course, you know, the Nicolas Cage, you know, gun, I forget the name of that movie, but it's a great movie.
So if you haven't seen it, I highly recommend it.
But it's about a gun sales guy and a lot of the other things he gets involved in as a result of being involved in that world.
You know, and so this is kind of what we're talking about.
I want to say that also I have a secret contact who I won't say anything about, but I can tell you that he used to get bags of money, cash, dropped off at his front porch.
That's how he was paid for his operations.
Yeah.
Huge bags of cash.
That's it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's also worth noting.
All right.
So, again, I was going to just look at the chat, and I'm sorry, guys.
You know, we just got off on that thing.
Somebody wants to know your thoughts regarding the Pope and the Vatican.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, they're part of the whole European bloodline thing.
I mean, the Vatican, gosh, we could talk about the Vatican for a long time.
I go back to the tripod, the three-legged beast, which They're all connected because they're all sovereign places.
So therefore, they operate independent of any oversight from anybody.
The Vatican handles the spiritual side, the City of London handles the financial side, and DC handles the military side.
They're the security, they're the cops, they're the You know, they're the leg breakers.
They're the bad guys.
So, you know, the Vatican and the Pope are bad.
I mean, they're, you know, and things have been coming out on, you know, their pedophilia...
It runs rampant.
Their reincarnation of the Roman Empire, the Mafia and the Roman Catholic Church are one and the same thing.
The Mafia is, I mean, you know, and the Godfather, which one was it, three or four, whatever, when Michael went over to the Vatican and talked to the Pope and all this kind of stuff.
The Vatican are the bad guys.
While we were talking about the Vatican Bank, and I know you and I have talked about this and I may have talked about it before, but a few years ago they had an announcement that the Vatican Bank found several hundred billion dollars or billion euros off balance sheet.
And it's like, wait a minute, off-balance sheet?
Why is it off-balance sheet?
Which that indicates that there are two sets of books going.
So anyway, it was kind of interesting.
And nobody asked the question, well, why was it off-balance sheet?
Why is there an off-balance sheet thing?
And I think that...
To answer your listener's question, the Pope and the Vatican are the European bloodlines.
I would love to spend some time down in the basement or the catacombs of the Vatican, because I think that's where all the secrets are.
I think that's where Caesar took all of the documents that they got out of The Library of Alexandria before they burned it to the ground and told us that they burned up all that stuff in the fire.
I think Caesar went in, he pulled all that stuff out, and that's where it is in the Vatican, and I think that's where a lot of the secrets are.
Absolutely.
And my interview with Leo Zagami should answer that question in a much more intricate way.
So go to Project Camelot, my YouTube channel, and look for Leo.
Just put Leo.
You'll find the interview in the search.
Now, someone is asking about Confirming the CIA, the coup, well, actually the invasion of the CIA by Trump, you know, some military guys.
And there were definitely, you want to talk about that?
I suppose.
Well, I'll just say, you know, right off the bat.
No, I can address it, and then you can address it, too.
Yeah, go ahead.
Okay, yep.
No, you just sounded a little reluctant.
Well, I am a little bit, only because this is information that I'm getting that I can't, you know, I can't confirm, I can't say for sure, but what we've been told was that the Marine Expeditionary Force did land at the CIA, Three, four weekends ago on a Saturday, they went inside, they got files, they got computer drives.
They didn't arrest anybody because they don't have that power, but they did go in and take control of documents of the CIA, and they left.
It's all part of Operation Drumstick.
Part of that operation had to do with putting more troops in Afghanistan to go after the Bush troops.
The Bush crime families processing labs for heroin and opioids.
I think if you go back in time and you look at the heroin problem that has come to the United States, you will see that it coincides exactly to when we went in and invaded Afghanistan.
So part of Operation Drumstick was nailing CIA headquarters.
Part of Operation Drumstick was gearing up in Afghanistan to go over there and bomb and destroy the drug processing labs.
And I even heard the other day where the White House basically admitted that Trump was developing a new intel unit that was separate from the CIA and some other agencies, which is interesting, which indicates to me that there may be something coming down against the CIA very shortly.
Right.
And, of course, that company is, you know, it's multifaceted.
It has, I would say, bad guys and good guys within it.
And they are at war with each other.
And I've heard this many times.
I will say that I got a phone call today that also verified this issue.
Sort of invasion into the CIA and happening a few weekends ago.
They used a terminology that, you know, I don't know military hardware, but they said something about what sounded like, I don't know, some kind of airplanes or something that landed.
The Ospreys?
Yes, yes.
Yeah, the helipot, yeah.
So is that a helicopter?
Yeah, it's a tilt rotor helicopter.
It's very maneuverable.
And I forget how many troops it'll carry, 20 or 30 troops, maybe, something like that.
Right.
So, yeah, the Osprey, the tilt rotor.
And then, you know, there have been some simultaneous happenings, which people will have seen.
There's an article that came out where Rothschild is basically complaining to the press that You know, Trump is now fighting the New World Order, you know, saying it's a bad thing, which actually I thought was hilarious.
And then the other thing was that Obama actually was prompted by God knows who to say that Trump is like Hitler in the 1930s or something.
And so this is all, you know, the blowback that these guys are obviously in on the deep state, if you will.
And they don't like what's happening and they've been called forward to complain and try to rally around their troops anyway.
So, yeah, it's very interesting.
I think we're going to see a lot more of this.
You know, the question becomes, and I appreciate some people are trying to say, okay, this is it.
You know, they're taking them down.
Not so fast because there's a lot more to it.
And I will say that next week I'm going to have John Brandenburg on the show.
And he's a fascinating guy.
I had him on my show not that long ago.
He's written a book that apparently was passed around, he's now told me, I think I can say this, I hope I can, inside the upper echelons of the government.
And it's all about a kind of a civil war and basically the administration.
They're being a split in this country of the United States.
And this is a fictional book that he wrote.
But he's a guy who's quite in the know or was at one time.
Quite a very smart guy, and he wrote a fictional rendition, but don't forget that it involves also the invasion of the underground bases, the greys, the human hybrid programs, and the fact that the military has to make up for deals they've made with these off-planet races to allow humans to be abducted, eaten, used as Guinea pigs and so on and so forth.
And Dulce and other underground bases.
So there's a lot more to this war.
You know, for taking back the deep state than people really realize.
And you're not going to probably hear this anywhere else but here.
So I just want you to be aware of that.
I will be talking to him about his book next week.
I think we agreed on Thursday night.
So stay tuned for that if you want to hear more about what's really going on.
So that was that topic.
Let me see if there's any other quick questions I can get.
Financial reset.
Okay.
Well, that's a huge subject.
I don't know.
I didn't say that.
I don't know if somebody asked the question, but you're welcome to say what you like about it.
Go ahead.
Well, I think that, you know, and I think we've talked about this before.
I think we talked about it during the Cliff High interview.
I mean, go back and look at the history of BRICS and how they've basically bloomed and blossomed into now.
You know, it's the Infrastructure Asian Bank or Asian Infrastructure Bank, the Shanghai Gold Exchange.
You know, everything's moving to China.
And so I think we need to pay attention to that.
That we're looking at a global reset at some point in time.
The old guard, which would be the European bloodlines, the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, Oh, that reminds me something about Rockefellers.
But anyway, the Rothschilds are going to lose control of the banking system here pretty shortly because the Chinese, as everybody knows, has been accumulating gold for a long, long time, going back to the Silk Road days.
And they are going to, at some point, convert their currency to an asset-backed currency, which is going to create a situation where all the other countries are going to have to go to the same type of asset system.
If they don't, then their currencies are basically going to be worthless.
When you go from having currencies that are not backed by anything other than confidence to a system where they're backed by something tangible, an asset or group of assets, basket of assets, whatever you want to call it, it's going to change the course whatever you want to call it, it's going to change the course of the
Now, one thing I can put out there with a caveat that supposedly the TRNs have already been printed and they're in some of the banks.
They haven't been released yet.
And so that is the new money for us, for the United States.
Now there's a battle because the Federal Reserve, of course, is there.
And as everybody probably knows, there's a changing of the guard.
Janet Yellen is, I think, going to lose.
You know, she's going to step down from the chairmanship or whatever it's called, directorship, in January or February.
They've got five new governors coming in, including the head of We may see a change there.
If China flips the switch and changes their yuan and has it backed by gold and other assets, that's going to cause a domino effect that's going to go all over the world.
And the United States and the Federal Reserve, if they don't get ahead of that, are going to be in bad shape.
So that's what's going on.
That's what Trump is dealing with.
That's what the Part of the trip to the Far East that he took three or four weeks ago, that's what part of that had to do with, if you notice, he went to Japan, he went to China, he went to Vietnam, and he went to the Philippines.
And of course, the Philippines, we could do a whole lot of things.
But he went to the money places where he met with Putin.
He met with Xi, however you pronounce his name.
And from what we're being told, they had private meetings about how they were all going to fight the cabal, the deep state, whatever you want to call it.
And so that's what Trump's fighting now.
Interestingly enough, coming back to the United States, I think this whole Mueller thing, this whole deal This whole FBI thing involving calling Mueller and all this stuff is starting to implode on a daily basis.
There was just something released tonight where a DOJ guy had been demoted because he had gotten involved with the fusion GPS thing beforehand.
Another thing I'll put in which you and I talked about earlier this evening, I think we're going to see I don't think...
Under normal circumstances that that kind of a book would ever have been published.
You know, there's interesting things that she discloses in there.
Of course, she disclosed what everybody already knew anyway, and that was that the Clintons controlled the DNC. And I think that the Democrats don't want that to be the case anymore.
So they're turning against the Clintons.
And I also I think the inspector general is going to come out with some interesting information in the next few weeks that's going to really blow the DOJ and the FBI sky high.
I feel sorry for Christopher Wray.
I watched some of his testimony today.
I'm kind of neutral on him.
I'm not sure yet.
Time will tell on how he's going to be, but I think there's going to be some things that are going to be forced.
And, you know, it goes back to Trump.
I mean, Trump just, he just irritates everybody.
And they stand up, they identify themselves as bad guys because they attack him, because they're afraid of what he's going to do.
And so, love him or hate him, cheer him on, because he's really trying to take the U.S. back.
And I think, you know, I mean...
Go through all of his crap and file his bankruptcies and do all of his stuff.
I mean, he's maybe hard to take, but I don't care.
He's a president that's actually doing the right thing for the country.
And so I think we need to give him all the support that we can and go from there.
I mean, the White Hats have voiced pride in ourselves that we go after everybody Who are bad guys.
We went after the Bushes.
We went after Obama.
We went after Clintons.
We went after Romney.
We went after all the bad guys.
It doesn't matter what side of the aisle they're on.
And the thing about Clinton is, and it's interesting because you kind of had to kind of set Tony Gosling straight when you did his interview, because I think outsiders look at Trump And they're trying to measure him against what they think a world leader is.
And the only people that they have to compare him to are the other world leaders who are controlled by the cabal and the deep state and the European crime families and the bloodlines and all this other stuff.
So you really can't.
And he's really the guy that we need at this point because if you want...
If you have your eyes open, you know what's going on.
You want somebody who's going to come in and dismantle things.
You want a wrecking ball.
And that's exactly what Trump is.
He's a wrecking ball.
I mean, he's driving these guys crazy.
They're just beside themselves.
The media is just going nuts over him.
And they're losing.
I mean, the more that they expose themselves, the more that people are waking up and starting to see what's going on.
And the magnitude of it is going to be...
Because you've been exposing it for a long time.
And it does go to the space program, I mean, and the black projects, because, you know, when we talked to during the Pure Heart investigation or the Pure Heart phase of things, we spoke to, what's his name, the attorney McCall.
And he gave us all this information about the bloodlines and how this was all set up to keep the bloodlines in power.
And it was a big, you know, big long 100-year, 500-year plan.
And, you know, they had technology that was 50,000 years ahead of what we have now.
And, you know, and that's why we got with you to write the second half of 48 because you...
Are aware of what happens when that money goes down that dark hole and surfaces over in the black projects in the secret space program because that's what funds it.
That's exactly what funds it.
And they fund it from the trading programs and the money goes off balance sheet and then it gets distributed and it goes down that black hole and it surfaces in the black projects in the secret space program.
Right.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, I think we've really covered the gamut tonight.
So, you know, I don't know.
People should spread the word that this particular interview is really uncovering a lot of, you know, lifting up a lot of stones and showing what's underneath.
And, you know, you're not going to get this kind of stuff very many places out there, especially not in order.
Yeah.
And, yeah, it is interesting.
I mean, there's a lot of nuance here and things that aren't being revealed.
There's also, I just want to say that Stan, I did an interview with BitShare's Stan Larimer, and he happens to have worked in basically the space program.
You know, he worked for the aerospace companies, and I think, if I recall, I think he's a physicist.
Anyway, His knowledge, it's his son who kind of did the BitShares part, but he's very knowledgeable and he basically spills the beans on China and all the miners for Bitcoin being located in China and therefore vulnerable to being controlled.
And this is where two-thirds of Bitcoin is basically residing at this point.
So there's a lot more going on.
with regard to the financial system and to yes there are techies can talk to this and talk to that in very idealistic ways even at times but there's also the nitty-gritty and no one seems to you know there are not enough people are really picking up with that you know that that piece of information and running with it and And there's probably a lot more behind it.
I can tell you that Stan Larimer, if you watch my interview, comes across as a guy who knows a lot more than he is saying, and he says quite a bit on my show.
So these are the kinds of things you, you know, we're working to uncover.
And where it's all going to lead gets to the AI, gets to quantum computing, gets to, you know, D-Wave machine, and there's a whole lot more behind that.
So again, you know, don't pack it all up and go on vacation yet, thinking that we've won, so to speak.
There are going to be certain people out there that have a very rather superficial view of this whole game that we're part of.
Anyway, so any parting words, Paladin?
No, I just think that, you know, everybody should sit tight.
They should support Trump.
They should pay attention to what's going on because all the information is being revealed to us on a daily basis.
It's going so fast, it's hard to keep up with.
We are working on...
A huge exposure that probably will be in the making here.
Maybe, I don't know, I don't even want to guess when we can maybe bring it out, but it's a big exposure that's going to be a lot more than what we exposed with the Pure Heart, the $15 trillion transfers.
I'm going to put together 48, I've decided, and everybody We come out with 48.
Now it's probably because it's been so long and we didn't come out with it.
I'm probably going to break it up into three or four or five parts and kind of spoon feed it just so everybody kind of is able to play along because there's so much information there and there's so many links that we're going to provide so people can go read, you know, what we're talking about, point you in certain directions.
We've got a whole lot of documents that we want to release.
So that will kind of give you a foundation and a basis about the shadow government, the deep statewide, Whatever you want to call it.
And then you can tie that into what's going on today.
Our other project that we're working on, it could be the middle of next year before that comes to fruition.
But we do need a bigger audience because that could take down the whole thing.
So that's what we're working on.
And just to say we haven't stopped working, even though we stopped doing reports, we haven't really stopped working.
Because Trump got elected, it was a good time now to come back out and start talking.
It's not going to jeopardize any of the things that we're doing behind the scenes.
It could probably enhance them to a certain degree, so that's kind of why we're coming back out.
Alright, so it's great to talk to you and I'm glad we got to do this.
I've been meaning to do it for quite some time.
So it's great that, you know, we finally kind of tied you down and got you to commit to coming on and really telling the history of the White Hats as best can be told and, you know, It's now about a two-hour interview.
So thank you so much, Paladin.
You know, really appreciate it.
And I want to give out your website.
I guess the word is it's backup.
And my links are now corrected, so I think that should be easy to find.
The links were always right, but the name on it was wrong.
So anyway, it's correct.
And that's on my website, projecthamlott.tv.
So Paladin, I'll let you go.
Do you want to give your website and any other purpose?
Yeah.
And email.
If you want people to write to you, how can they write to you?
Paladin at WhiteHatsReport.com.
I have been getting some email from people and I've tried to answer that, you know, as quickly as possible within research.
So yeah, they can contact at paladin at whitehatsreport.com.
The website, if it's back up, it's whitehatsreport.com.
And I just want to say, I noticed somebody was asking about Q in the scroll, in the chat.
And I don't know how I want to say this.
You know, they are...
They appear to be legitimate.
We don't have any inside information on who that person is.
There's a lot of speculation that it could be Trump himself.
I don't think that's the case.
There is speculation it could be That's Steve Miller.
I think that's more likely who it is.
And I think we just have to wait and see about Q's information.
I have not been following it.
I have read a little bit of it, but it's written in riddles and it's clues and all this kind of stuff.
And it's really kind of hard to decipher, although there are some things out there that I think are significant.
They talk about the NSA And I think one thing that everybody needs to understand is the NSA and the CIA are not best friends.
They are not best friends at all, okay?
So I think everybody needs to understand that.
Supposedly Rogers went to brief Trump in December before he took office.
Rogers seems to be, and that's the head of the NSA, seems to be not part of the cabal in the sense that They don't share information with the CIA. It's a problem, and you alluded to it earlier, Kerry.
I just wanted to say that about Q. The jury's still out on Q because I don't know who they are, and I don't know why they're doing what they're doing in the format in which they're doing it.
We really don't have any inside information, although we are finding it pretty entertaining because I have not tracked the predictions or the information to see if it's right or it's coming true or anything like that.
So probably everybody else is following it.
It knows more about that than we do.
But what I've said about the Marines and the CIA, that part I have a high confidence level for.
So I think we need to watch that.
The Operation Drumstick, if Trump has used the troops in Afghanistan to go after the drug Okay, so again, thank you again for being on the show.
And we'll probably have you back in the future, no doubt.
So thanks everyone for watching and listening.
And oh, I want to let everyone know that tomorrow at 3pm on Friday, that's 3 p.m.
Pacific Time, I'm going to be on the Ella Free Revolution radio show.
She's going to interview me, you know, sort of returning the favor as I interviewed her a ways back on basic targeted individuals.
So we're going to be talking about whatever I'm going to be talking about, whatever she asks me, I'll try to answer as best I can.
So that'll be at 3 p.m.
tomorrow.
All right, so thanks again for watching, everyone, and have a great night.
Thank you, Carrie.
Okay, take care.
Good night.
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