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Oct. 27, 2017 - Project Camelot
02:08:03
DR. MARY HELEN HENSLEY - PSYCHIC, HEALER, AUTHOR
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Thank you.
and that was a couple of months ago.
We both spoke there and she's a fascinating person and I wanted to bring her on the show and have her share her material with you and I've got a short bio here.
Let me just bring her on the screen.
Mary, say hi to everyone.
Hello, everybody.
And do you go by Mary Helen or just Mary?
Mary Helen, double-barreled southern name.
All right.
Which works in Catholic Ireland, too.
Okay.
Alright, so you're in the right location for your name, so to speak.
So what I'm going to just do is give a brief introduction based on your bio here.
It says Dr.
Mary Helen Hensley.
It brings humor and honesty, integrity and passion to her work.
And she is one of Ireland's most sought-after metaphysical healers and synergistic speakers with a Bachelor of Arts in Communications and Graphic Design.
She went on to receive a doctor in chiropractic medicine following a near-death experience due to a 75-miles-per-hour car crash.
And she'll tell us all about that.
So she's been practicing in Ireland since 1999.
And then she moved into metaphysics around 2012.
And she's also written another book.
She's got two daughters and the new book I believe is called Understanding is the New Healing.
Her other book which is available on Amazon is called Promised by Heaven.
So the rest of the bio is on her website as well as mine and the link to Amazon to get her book is also available there.
So Mary Helen I'd love you to give a more elaborate introduction of yourself.
Okay.
Well, first of all, thank you so much for having me.
I have to say that yours was mind-blowing at the Ireland Awakens conference.
You know when you're listening to somebody and you're like, yeah, we're from the same tribe, which in our business is, you know, You'd like to think that there's tons of us out there, but I think, you know, with the type of work that we're actually doing and the pursuit of authenticity is, I think, grossly important to both of us.
And I think that's probably why we clicked.
It's, you know, because in the field of metaphysics and, you know, when we're dealing with anything with spirituality or anything that appears new agey or a bit out of the box, There are an awful lot of people who are involved and some for fun.
Some are on the periphery.
Some are very hardcore.
Some take it extremely seriously.
Some don't take it seriously.
And it takes all kinds.
But for me, the true measure of something that is worth my time and energy is that authenticity.
It's the constant pursuit of there are many truths out there.
I understand that.
But anytime I hear somebody say that there is I will promptly turn on my heel and run as fast as I can the other way.
I love what you do because I think you are constantly in pursuit of showing the examples of the different types of truths that are out there because it's multifaceted.
It also depends where an individual is on their journey.
The type of frequency of experience that someone's going to attract in their life determines what their truth is in that particular time so to claim anything is the truth instead of a truth is I think where you and I gel the most because that's you know in my writing and the stories that I share the reason that I do this is not to make me some type of guru it's for people to find their own power in these stories
for people to identify with their fellow humans being And to go, you know what, that happened to me, or that happened to my sister or my cousin, and I can see that, and oh, that's how they got through this.
And when you can take that and empower another person, that's where your healing takes place.
This is why I've just spent the last two years working on understanding is the new healing.
It's understanding where you are on your journey, understanding your personal truth in that space and time, the beings, the individuals that you attract into your life and how they can contribute to your paradigm, your perception of what the truth is at the time, knowing that at the drop of a hat it can change.
And I'm sure like you in your work, You have had many experiences where everything that you thought to be true went boom in a second and just changed instantly.
It happens to me nearly daily.
Okay.
Well, actually, what I'd like you to do, though, is just...
And that's, you know, fascinating and very well said.
What I'd like you to do, though, here is actually talk a little bit...
Obviously, I want you to tell your story, you know.
But before you do that, I'd like you to at least give a rundown on sort of how you became, you know, the healer that you are today.
And then we'll get into the actual, you know, sort of...
Life-changing incident that happened to you.
So, in the early days, you were psychic from a young age?
Is that how it worked?
Can you just...
Because this is part of your bio, if you will, just kind of like an overview.
Right.
Okay.
Sure.
So, like, my first book was called Promised.
And the reason that it was called Promised was because my father used to always call me that.
You know how some daddies will call their child, you know...
In Ireland, they say, okay, come here, Pesh, or...
Come here, darling, or come here, sweetheart.
And my father referred to me as promised, which was always really unusual.
But when my mother was pregnant with me, she was diagnosed in the first trimester with the German measles.
So I was the fourth child.
She was also in her 40s.
And they were called in and said, look, we just need you to understand.
Don't expect good things to happen here because you've got German measles now.
It's the first trimester and the likelihood that there is going to be something Extremely out of order or wrong with this baby is pretty much what you're dealing with here.
My father, who was a Southern Baptist minister, gets this visit one night.
It was interesting because you would think within that religious paradigm that he would refer to these maybe as angelic beings, but he referred to them as celestial beings because these beings had no wings.
And he was very adamant about how these individuals appeared to him and said, not only is your baby going to be okay, but she is going to have some very unusual abilities, and this will be part of what she does.
This will be part of her service to mankind.
And so from that day forward, my dad was confident that everything was going to be okay.
And sure enough, when I was born, there wasn't a trace of anything having to do with With the German measles in that first trimester, and I was okay, other than, you know, a little bit of oddity.
But I embraced that.
So from the time that basically I was able to talk, I was having these really incredible conversations with my grandfather.
This was my mother's father.
He was a surgeon from Kentucky.
We called him Judge.
And Judge and I had the most He is the most prominent memory of my childhood.
We had the most wonderful conversations.
He was so dear to me.
He showed me things.
He took time with me.
He sat with me.
He told me about how we were to serve.
We talked a lot about service.
That was always a big part of our conversations.
He would show me and take me places of how this was going to take place.
One day when I was about four, My parents finally sat me down and my dad was like, I can't take this anymore.
And my mom gently asked me, honey, do you know what it means to the difference between alive and dead?
And I'm like four and I'm, I guess, no, I don't.
I don't know what you mean.
And they said, well, do you understand that judge isn't here?
Judge is dead.
Judge doesn't have a body.
And I mean, it blew my little mind because As real as you are sitting across that screen and you look very, you know, in a body and like a real person to me, judge always appeared that way.
And so I've been having these conversations with, you know, a guy who had died when I was actually one.
And so this is when my mom and dad realized, okay, something's up here.
And so I was constantly in communicate with him.
And he was It still took my life.
And so as I got older, I began to have these dreams.
I could come in and tell them, you know, I dreamt about so-and-so down by dream or dreamt about whatever.
And they would dream.
And so I can assure you that my father, you know, he was a motivational speaker, a very positive minister.
He wasn't the hellfire and brimstone kind of Bible Belt type.
He was very, very positive.
But he got to the point where I remember him sitting me down and going, sweetheart, we need to not talk about this with other people.
Let's keep this between us.
To the point where it was kept so close between us that my siblings didn't know.
So you can only imagine when my first book came out, you know, like 10 years ago, they were pretty shocked.
But it was my parents who had always wanted to do that.
And I don't know if it was...
My dad was afraid of me being exploited or thought I'd be made fun of or if it was more personal, he didn't want us to appear odd or strange or that it was in some way opposing the fact that he was a well-known minister.
But anyway, we kind of kept it to ourselves.
So that's how it started for me.
It was the dreams.
It was the talking to my deceased grandfather.
And it just kind of carried on.
Well, so, and I guess we have a little bit of a strange sort of squelchy echo there, so maybe don't go too close to your speakers.
Your voice is quite, you know, as strong, so it's good as it is.
What I wanted to ask you, though, is you grew up in Kentucky, and eventually you've come over.
Sorry?
Virginia.
Where did I get Kentucky?
Did you say Kentucky?
My grandfather was from Kentucky.
Oh, alright.
So, Virginia.
And in Virginia, were you having psychic experiences that you would share with others before you were told not to?
Or was it at four years old that you were told not to?
Or was it later?
It started when I was very young, at four years old.
Yeah.
And, you know, because it was also at four years old that we went on a family vacation to Virginia Beach.
And we're from Martinsville, which is about four hours due west.
And so we're from the mountains.
We're mountain folk.
And we went to Virginia Beach at a time when there was a severe erosion taking place at the beach there.
As usual, my father did not book any accommodation.
He always winged it.
You know, we'd get in the car and drive somewhere.
And many is the night we spent in the car because we had no hotel room.
You know, distinct memories from childhood.
But we get to Virginia Beach.
He hadn't booked and we're going from hotel to hotel to hotel and nobody's got anything.
And eventually, hours later, we land at this beachfront hotel.
I remember these huge pipes, and they were blasting sand in because the beach was actually eroding.
There was this massive undertaking, and people who are from Virginia Beach can remember this actually quite well.
The beachfront was just simply eroding.
My parents told my brother and I to stay in the car and they were going into this hotel because my dad had come out with the thumbs up and they were going to let us stay.
And of course, you know, as soon as they told me to stay put, I took off and I went running down to the beach and I was fascinated by these pipes that were blasting sand.
Well, as soon as I got down there, I turned around and I couldn't remember which way I'd come.
And so I started walking in the wrong direction.
And, um, Several hours went by.
I came across two gentlemen who had a beach kind of camp going on.
They had a little stove set up.
I distinctly remember their little skinny cigarettes that smelled funny.
They were just great guys.
And, you know, it was back in the early 70s, and today you'd be horrified at the thoughts of that, but they were wonderful.
They both took me by the hand, and they started walking, and they were quizzing me.
What hotel did you go to first?
And I would describe it.
So we just went from hotel to hotel, and hours later, we finally land back at the one that my parents were about.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, can you imagine?
My dad's freaking out, and he was still out looking for me.
My mother was waiting, you know, in case...
Somebody returned, but because this hotel was right on the beach, you can only imagine, you know, all they were thinking that I was drowned, I was gone.
And so I remember going in, of course, my mother, you know, she was hugging me and so excited to see me and so happy, and I was petrified because my dad was a big guy.
He was, you know, very, very tall, very muscular, very strong, booming voice, and I was terrified I was going to get it when he got back because I had run off.
And so And eventually he returns and he begins lecturing me about the dangers that I had, you know, what I had put them through, but the danger I had put myself in.
And next thing, his voice just starts to drone out and I can just, I can hear him talking.
I can see the lips moving, but I am in the midst of what was my very first past life flashback in this lifetime.
And it was, it was just crazy.
It's extremely important because it has played a very key role throughout the rest of my life.
I'm standing there and my father is telling me about how I could have drowned.
In this flashback, I am distinctly remembering what it was like to drown.
It was over 13,500 years ago.
I distinctly remember what I was wearing, what I did at the time.
And it would have been in the last recorded Atlantean Cataclysm.
And of course, at that age, I haven't a clue what any of that is.
And I'm just seeing this so clearly.
And, you know, next thing, it kind of goes back to present time.
My father is still giving out to me.
And I'm looking at it, and I'm so confused, and I'm going, What you're describing has nothing to do with this giant wave coming in.
Nothing to do with me going under and being separated from my family or protecting these symbols that was my living at the time.
And the two experiences were so different and it made a huge impact on me at that early age.
And I knew enough then at four or five years of age not to ever speak of it again.
Because when my father's face, when I tried to begin to talk about this, When I saw his face, it was just, I knew never again.
And so there are odd times I can remember maybe trying to tell a friend or maybe just, I always told my mother and my mother always told my Auntie Joyce that was her confidant.
But no, I didn't really share this outside of that because to be quite honest, I was afraid of my dad and my father's reaction to uh telling this to anybody okay so let's to fast forward to uh you actually had um some kind of the way you described it when I saw you speak is that you you talked about being sort of in denial as a result perhaps of these experiences as at as a young age and then having this
uh this accident that happened to you and so why don't you talk about that how you kind of We're in denial and what age you were and how that manifested and then what happened?
Okay.
I had an experience when I was 11 and it's a huge one for me because it was the first time I was ever allowed a pet.
And my father was not just the minister in town, but he was also the head football coach of our high school.
And back in the 70s, you know, school spirit was huge and high school football and cheerleaders and marching bands and all.
And our mascot was a bulldog.
And all I ever wanted was a bulldog.
I wanted my own dog.
And sorry, now this is...
You're actually fine.
Nothing's changed.
Okay, something is coming up on the screen.
I apologize.
So anyway, all I wanted was this dog.
So finally, my parents tell me that they're going to allow me to have this bulldog.
Oh my gosh.
I was so excited.
I named him Otto von Bismarck.
He was my very, very best friend.
I loved this dog.
Imagine an 11-year-old naming a dog Otto von Bismarck.
Something there.
Clearly.
I loved this dog.
I cherished this dog.
He was my first real responsibility.
I just adored him.
The summer after we'd gotten him, that spring, I went off to camp for a week in the summer.
And it was a Wednesday.
And I had gone to bed with all the other campers.
And it was pouring down rain outside.
I was in a bunk bed.
And I went to sleep.
And next thing I have this dream that Otto von Bismarck is on a hospital trolley.
And all four of his little legs are up in the air.
And there are people frantically working over him.
And next thing, his legs just fall over to the side and he was dead.
Well, I woke up in an absolute panic, and I went flying out in my bare feet into the rain, and I was going up the hill to where the main building was because I knew there was a phone there.
And my camp counselor was running after me, and I'm literally hysterical now at this stage.
And I'm like, my dog is dead, my dog is dead.
And they're like, no, no, you just had a bad dream.
And I'm like, thinking to myself, uh-uh, you know, my dreams are real.
And so they said, listen...
If you're still upset in the morning, we'll let you call your parents, but it's late.
You're not calling your parents tonight.
Oh my gosh, I was devastated.
I didn't sleep a wink.
So, of course, I'm sitting up wide awake the next morning, and they let me phone home.
And I'm like, what's the matter with Otto?
What's wrong?
What do you mean?
Nothing's wrong with Otto.
He's okay.
And I was really confused because it was the first time that I'd had that type of dream that wasn't real, that wasn't true.
And My parents come to collect me on Saturday.
Camp is over.
I'm all excited because I'm going home to see Otto.
My parents are acting really weird.
We drive all the way home and they're not answering any of my questions.
They keep diverting to, how was camp?
What did you do?
I'm like, how's Otto?
We get home and they walked me in and I sat on the corner of my parents' bed.
It was my father who took my hands and he sat and he said, sweetie, listen, Something happened and Otto got a doggy disease.
And that's how he described it.
And I said, what do you mean a doggy disease?
Well, he got a brain disease.
He actually had parvo.
And I looked at him and I said, and what, where is he?
And he goes, well, honey, he died.
And I said, and when did he die?
And he had died on the Wednesday.
And they had agreed not to tell me because they didn't want to ruin the rest of camp.
Which as a parent, I get it, you know, but I was so angry.
Oh my gosh.
I didn't speak to them for so long after that.
But in that moment, I experienced a loss that was really, really important to me.
And it seems like I began to attract that because the things that would happen, the visions and the dreams following that sort of through high school and into college always seemed to be around losing somebody.
I dreamed when my grandmother had died.
It was always something that seemed to be negative.
At that age, I didn't understand that I had triggered on the day of the dog's death.
I had kind of associated negativity with this gift.
Thus, I began to attract negativity.
More negative experiences.
And so I tried to separate.
I went through a period of time where I was a complete insomniac in college because I was actually afraid to go to sleep because, you know, okay, who else is going to die?
My mother could call me to give me news and I'd go, I know uncle so-and-so is dead.
And, you know, it almost became a running joke because she couldn't get it out of her mouth before I'd already told her.
And so I really, I didn't, I distanced myself from it, but let's say I wasn't really appreciating it.
And then I think I told you the story when we were at the conference of, you know, I could get the score of a basketball game and I would write it down and stick it in the envelope and I was a cheerleader and I'd go cheer at the game and come back and we'd all crack open a beer and look at the score.
And this was my service to humanity at that stage.
It was kind of as far as I was willing to go.
When I graduated from college, it was six months after graduation that this life-changing accident took place and put me on a completely different path.
Okay, so what is the story that happened to you that seems so sort of earth-shaking with regard to this accident and how old were you and sort of describe that circumstance?
Okay.
So I had just graduated college and I was 21.
And I had moved from, I was in Hartsville, South Carolina, where I went to college.
And then I'd moved to Charleston, South Carolina.
And, you know, I was dating my college sweetheart.
He was from Charleston.
That's how I got to Charleston.
And it was Christmas time.
It was December 14th.
And in Charleston, it's still quite hot, you know, at this stage.
So I was on my way to a Christmas party.
And this was of my first job, and I had my two big degrees, my communications and my bracket design, and I was mopping floors in a sign company.
That was my big job.
And there was, you know, a party for all of the employees.
And so I left my apartment and drove half a mile maybe to the traffic lights.
And This is where Highway 17 is.
And this is quite a large highway.
There's many lanes coming this way and many lanes going this way.
And I was at the traffic light because it was red.
And I had to make my way across to go down the other lanes towards town.
And, you know, I'm sitting in the car and I'm singing away and I'm wearing bright red Bermuda shorts and a Santa Claus t-shirt.
And I had a Jingle Bell necklace on that my mother had sent to me.
And I'm just...
Mind my own business and my light turns green and I start moving across the traffic in order to go towards my left and I had made it across all of the lanes except for the last one and I look left and there is this car lying towards me and this is when it all began to change.
Everything just began to slow down.
Time just ceased to exist.
Everything was moving in slow motion and I looked And I was distinctly aware in that moment that I was going to die.
No problem.
And I had this keen awareness, I would say, that I had done that before.
All of a sudden, in that split second, I'm aware that I've died before.
And so I'm looking at that car, and now I've got this choice.
And I thought that was really interesting.
I could stay in my body and experience the impact of the car, and he was going fast, and it was going to hurt.
Or I could exit my body and not experience the impact.
And so with this kind of sudden realization that I had been through this before, I'd been through death, I decided that I would go with the leave the body scenario because I didn't really feel like getting crushed.
And the second that I made that decision, there was this sound.
It's easy to describe when I'm giving talks over here in Ireland because we have a lot of traditional Irish music.
You go into any pub and there's Irish music.
I play Irish music and the guy who's in our group who plays the Ilium pipes, which are the bellows that are under the arm and the pipes, they make this very distinct drone.
It's a low pitch frequency that happens before they're getting ready to play.
And this is what it sounded like to me.
It was this very low-frequency drum.
And as that sound is getting louder and louder, I realize suddenly that I'm above the accident.
I'm no longer in my body, and I'm looking down.
And as soon as I am here, as opposed to in my body, everything's sped back up again.
So now the car is Coming towards my car and I watched it T-bone, so it folded my car in half.
I see my head go through the window and come back.
I was trapped by the seatbelt and I just was hanging there.
I looked like a little puppet.
And the seat of the car folded in half underneath me.
Now the glass is blown out everywhere.
It's in my legs because I'm wearing shorts.
The radio is still going.
And the car is spinning around the intersection.
Now I was completely...
Focused on the fact that a few cars behind me at that traffic light was a girl I've gone to college with.
Now she was from Charleston, but you know Charleston's 350,000 people.
You know the odds of that are kind of slim, but there she was and I could see her and of course everybody who's around is witnessing this car flying through the intersection and I then realized that I could see the moment when she knew the car, the moment she knew that car belonged to me.
And I could nearly feel her realization that it was me in that car, her horror, basically.
And so I distinctly remember feeling that.
And then when the car kind of came to a stop, there was this lady who came up And put her hand through the passenger side window, which was gone, and put her phone number on the front seat of the passenger side, and then left again, which I always thought was really weird, but whatever.
And then the next guy that comes up is a man in uniform, and he comes around and reaches through, because he had come to the driver's side first, but I was literally pinned.
The car was crushed in on me.
So he comes around to the passenger side, Turns the ignition off so that the engine wouldn't blow.
And it was at this stage then I suppose the ambulance would have been called.
And that's my last memory, is seeing him switch that car on.
And now that low drone sound is getting higher and higher.
It's this very high-pitched, beautiful frequency that was oscillating.
It wasn't just one sound.
It was moving.
I've never heard anything like it.
And to this day, I've still never heard anything like it.
We just don't have that here.
And so I think I've come to realize over the years that what was happening is as the frequency got higher and was changing, that was me leaving this plane.
I think the lower drone sound was my soul, my spirit staying within the earth plane.
And the higher frequency was when I was exiting.
A lot of people will talk about the tunnel of light and I didn't see any of that.
It was this to this.
I was here and then I was here.
I find myself in this environment that I still, 27 years later, have no words for.
It's just a place I have described as so beautiful it hurts to remember.
It was, I could touch the air around me.
The atmosphere was palpable.
There was colors I've never seen.
I don't have words for.
There were smells.
There were feelings.
It was like the atmosphere and the feeling of the atmosphere was the same as what I could feel in me.
So, you know, I'm realizing now, okay, I'm not in my body anymore.
And I didn't care.
And So often when I hear people talk about losing their loved ones and, you know, do they miss me?
And, you know, are they trying to get back to me?
And, you know, you hate to say no, because you don't care.
I have always described Leaving the body as if you were outside and it was super hot and you were, let's say, gardening or doing whatever and you were sweaty and nasty and you came inside and you peeled your dirty clothes off and left them on the floor and went and had the most fabulous cold shower.
The last thing you're thinking of is your dirty clothes.
And that is really what it's like because you're so aware that you aren't that body once you're out.
You know, this idea of how attached we've become to who we are and what these bodies are The second you're not in it, that goes away.
Sure.
Okay, so at this point, though, what happens to you to bring you back?
Okay.
I end up meeting two beings in this space.
And again, it's like kind of when my dad had that celestial being experience.
These were not angels.
And by God, they were not certainly what I had been taught in Sunday school I was going to be meeting upon my death.
These were two beings who I recognized had been with me forever and it was they who kind of let me know but I had the choice that I was going to be coming back and that my service to mankind that Judge and I had always talked about when I was a child was about to begin.
So this kind of not misusing but not using my gift was going to come to a quick halt And so it was that during this time with them after having done a life review and realizing that I was going back, I wasn't done.
That drone came back, we went from that high frequency back down to that low frequency and boom, I'm back in the body.
And now, you know, with a broken neck and I've lost my hearing, I've detached the retina and I'm just smashed to bits.
So when I arrived in the hospital, in the ambulance, you know, I have one memory in the ambulance, and it was of this lady, and she's rubbing my head, and I was screaming.
And I was screaming about dying.
And she was like, don't worry, sweetheart, we're not going to let you die.
And I'm looking at her going, I was just dead.
I was just dead, you know, and I sounded like a lunatic, and obviously she's thinking, head injury.
And so I get to the hospital, and...
I was gone again.
And when I came to, there was a man standing there.
And the man said to me, first thing out of his mouth, you are one lucky little lady.
And I just kind of looked at him and he said, do you feel like you can tell me what happened?
And it was then that I realized something was wrong here in my neck.
I couldn't swallow.
And I was trying to pull myself up.
And, you know, the words were coming out funny.
And I looked at him and I said, hey, I know you.
And he kind of looks at me.
And I'm like, you were at the accident.
And he just changed in that moment.
Because he's going, there's no way you could know that I was at the accident.
And so he asked me what happened.
And I said, you know, a girl I went to college with was actually a couple of cars behind me.
You should speak to her.
And there was a phone number left inside my car.
Some weird lady came up and put her number on the seat.
And now he's like really looking at me.
And he's like, young lady, there is no way that you could know that.
And I suddenly realized that he's the guy who turned the car off.
And he's like, I'm the one who took your body out of that car.
And, you know, they had to pull the side of the car off and all that kind of stuff.
And I was strapped with the thing and the board.
And he's just like, there's no way that you saw any of that.
And it was, for both of us, a real aha moment.
The penny drops and I'm like, oh my God, what happened?
And he's like, oh my God, what happened?
And he leaves.
And I'm left sitting there with my entire world just completely shattered because everything that I have ever known to be true suddenly isn't.
And I'm sitting in that room trying to reinvent Who I am or who I think I am or what I'm doing here.
So, you know, that's the coming back experience.
Actually, what I'm wondering is, you know, when you were out of body, so to speak, you must have had a time when you're talking to those beings and you're basically deciding to go or to stay.
Or are you saying that you automatically were saying you were going to come back?
Or were you making a decision?
Did you feel like you made a decision?
I had the choice, but to be quite honest, Carrie, I don't ever remember not knowing that I was going to come back.
You know, oh boy, would it have been tempting to stay in that space, but I don't have a recollection of, like, I was coming back.
And it wasn't forcing me.
It was my choice.
Right.
But now when you're saying you're talking to this man and you were aware of him and all of this, But you're saying that your world changed, but I don't understand why would your world change if you were already psychic and already living for X number of years?
Because you're like 21, right?
So you've had all these experiences that are quite psychic.
I'm sure you're not sharing all those experiences with us.
You know, there's probably not enough time for that.
But you know what I'm saying?
In other words, weren't you already aware that the world wasn't like so-called normal?
And that you did see things and so and so.
I mean, I'm not understanding how you're divorcing yourself from yourself in quite that way.
You know what I'm saying?
I do totally know what you're saying.
I guess I could best liken it to, you know, I've got a 15-year-old daughter now.
And I've got a 13 and a 15-year-old.
Both of them have some unusual abilities.
All right.
But both of them are teenagers now.
And we don't like to talk about the weird stuff that mom does.
When they were children, and when this one could communicate with pets and tell me what this pet was saying and thinking, and when this other one could walk into a room and there was a woman who didn't even know she was pregnant and she'd go, oh, she has a baby girl in her stomach.
And it was so normal to them.
They grew into this phase of, I don't want to...
Do anything with it.
I don't want to talk about it.
You know, the 15-year-old is starting to come back out of that.
And this is why I told you the dog story because it was the Otto story where I sort of began to separate myself from this.
Yeah, I knew there was a different world out there.
I knew I could talk to the dead.
But I put it so far over here because it became disturbing to me.
Okay, so in a sense, you might say, in a sense then, this was indicative of sort of a split that you had going on, where you were living in two realities and not acknowledging the one when you were in the other, so to speak.
Yeah.
So, your conversation with this man who kind of was instrumental in maybe saving your life in the sense that he turned the car off, I don't know.
He wasn't a doctor.
Are you saying he was in your room, but he wasn't a doctor?
Yeah.
Oh, he was the police officer.
Oh, okay.
He had come from the scene of the accident to see, number one, was I... Alive and awake and he needed the details because he was the officer on call.
Okay, so after you shared with him what happened and he said, well, you're not supposed to know that and so on and so forth, you had a realization that somehow maybe the other side of your views is like awakening again and you're coming back to yourself as to what you know and what you don't know.
So at that point, what happened?
I went through...
It's interesting that it was three days because it seems like in every awakening there's a three-day thing going on, but it was three days.
I'm kind of like the person you see right here talking to you.
This is kind of how I am all the time.
I'm a pretty jolly individual.
I like to be funny.
I like to take things that are difficult subjects and put humor to it so that it's more digestible for people.
I've always been this way.
I like to sing.
I like to dance.
I went through the closest thing I guess in this life for me.
I've never had issues with sort of depression or and I know lots of people struggle with that and it's not something I've ever personally experienced firsthand.
So it's the closest in the three days following that accident.
I guess this is what people who deal with that kind of darkness go through.
I doubted everything.
I felt scammed.
I felt hard done by.
It was really the polar opposite to what you would think of such a beautiful, heavenly type of experience.
I was like, because remember now, I'm hurting.
I'm back in a body that is broken to bits.
And when you're in this, you know, divine, wonderful, loving space and you're in an energy body, you don't feel any pain.
And I'm like, what was I thinking?
Because I had to come back in, you know, and it was torture.
The symptoms that I have today all these years later as a result of this accident, it's every day.
And during that three days, I really went through this thing of, I think I've lost my mind.
That was the biggest thing.
And it was my mom who really helped me through this and was always reminding me, thank God she is the way she is because she was the one going, Don't you remember that daddy, her dad, Judge, has been with you always.
Don't you know this?
And she lovingly talked me out of the darkness in those three days because I was like, what have I done?
And it's the closest, you know, after that, never again.
I've never doubted it, never worried about it.
It just, it was, I had to go through that, that period.
But it's the closest I have ever come to that real life.
Depressed darkness kind of thing, but it was very short-lived.
Okay, so once you...
I redirected quickly.
Okay, but when you kind of came to, so to speak, and you were more yourself, if you want to call it that, how did you...
Because it seems that you...
I recall you making sort of a big statement saying that you felt that this was your wake-up call.
At what point did you realize that?
The timing was so fascinating.
I sobbed literally for three straight days.
After that, on that next day, a very, very dear family friend passed away.
I loved this man so much.
He was from Scotland.
I've always had an affinity for Scotland since I was tiny.
He used to come over.
He was such a close friend of my dad's.
He would come and read to me with that Scottish brogue and he would read poetry to me.
Oh my god, I loved him.
I absolutely adored him and he died.
And I had to deal for the first time post-accident with death.
Did you have a psychic premonition that he died or was going to die that turned out to be correct in this case or not?
Well, it was an instantaneous...
I connected when Mom called to tell me that he had died.
I told her first, as I usually did.
So I knew in that...
I hadn't had a dream the night before or anything.
It was before she could tell me.
I more or less read it off of her, I guess.
It was my reaction.
I was overcome in that moment with this peace and this happiness for him.
Do you know how the first thing that we do when we hear someone we really love has passed away?
We're grieving for ourselves, really.
We're so sorry for the fact that we're never going to be with them again, that we won't get to touch them or hug them or love them or see them.
There was none of that.
It was this peace that I knew what he was getting ready to go through.
It was so fresh.
I knew that beautiful sound he was going to hear and he was going to arrive into those colors and those feelings and that his beings would be there and it was the most amazing and that's really what pulled me out of that.
It was a death, funny enough.
Okay.
And it was in that moment that I was like, I know what they were, you know, because there were extensive conversations with these things about what I was going to be doing when I came back.
But, you know, when you come back and your neck's broken and you can't hear anymore and you're feeling pretty sorry for yourself, the last thing I really was interested in about was how I was going to be serving other people, to be honest.
Okay.
I was like, this sucks.
My body hurts.
I'm broken.
Okay.
But did you see, did you have, you remember it now, but did you, at that time, were you remembering the conversation with the beings and so on?
Yeah, and this is why I actually thought I had gone mad.
Yeah, I did.
I remembered everything.
The detail was so intent, and they kept telling me, and I guess this was kind of hanging over me.
They kept saying that there were going to be signposts.
There were going to be definitive things that they were going to do that would allow me to know that I was never alone and that the work that I would be doing, the gifts that were going to come in that would be enhanced, I would be very aware with each and everything that would happen because there would be a sign.
Think about it.
That's weird to be told that.
You're always waiting for the shoe to drop.
What is some apparition going to come to the front door and tell me what the next job is?
Alright, so then what did happen?
How did that materialize?
These signs would happen.
I'm walking into the grocery store one day and This guy walks up to me and he had this funny smile and he was looking at me.
And he goes, you've been there, haven't you?
And I just looked and I went, sorry?
And he said, you've been there.
You've been dead.
And I just was like, how do you know that?
And he said, because everybody I've ever seen who's done that has a double heart chakra.
And I said, what?
And he said, yeah, you've been there, haven't you?
Just go on, tell me.
And I went, yeah.
Things like this would happen.
I was like, is this what they're talking about?
It was constant confirmation.
It's different.
Somebody tells you something's going to happen and then it actually happens.
It's startling.
Nothing freaks me out nowadays.
I can get startled.
I don't get scared.
I don't get fearful of anything.
When this was happening, at snowball's pace, it was daily nearly.
That something was occurring.
Or I would land in the right place at the exact right time to prevent some major tragedy or to do, this kind of stuff was happening.
But next thing, I get a visit from Judge, from the dead grandfather, and he says, I've had a bit of time because I've been working with a chiropractor at that stage who was wonderful to me.
He didn't just fix me, he educated me.
He was very, very good about speaking to me about what was actually happening in my body.
The vitalistic philosophy, the mind-body-spirit aspect of who I was.
And this was just, it was all so familiar.
It was clicking in from the experience that I had and being separate from my body and knowing that I'm not this.
And he was just singing my song.
And I was fascinated.
But my grandfather had come to me and said, by the way, you're going to be going back to school.
And I was like, uh-uh.
And I just graduated in four years of college, you know.
That's the last thing I'm going to do is go back.
And he said, you're going to be going to chiropractic school.
And I'm like, okay, you know, it's cool and all, but no.
And he said, we need you to do this.
You've got to learn the human body.
You have to learn.
And so the idea behind this was that I would learn the human body differently.
But not from a mechanistic viewpoint, from a vitalistic viewpoint of knowing that, you know, we weren't just the pieces and parts and that just because something is broken doesn't mean you take it out or medicate it in order to fix it.
That there was a need to find, you know, the base or root cause of something and that half the time that was emotional and half the time it's spiritual.
You know, and sometimes it's physical, but rarely is it just that.
And he wanted me to go and become educated as I learned about the form and you know how the body works so that when I was Doing the next step, which was going to be helping to facilitate healing, that I knew what I was talking about, that I wasn't just talking about, oh, some lump in the throat, that I knew it was a thyroid gland, or that I knew it was a pancreas, or that I knew my stuff.
So you had a scientific basis also for what you were doing, assuming you're a healer.
But at this point, were you told Had you been a healer before that, or were you introduced to the idea that you were going to be a healer, or did you start manifesting abilities to read people's body, signature, etc.?
Exactly.
That came post-accident.
So the extent of my abilities before the accident were the prophetic dreams and the communicating with The deceased.
Seeing people who had passed or this kind of thing.
That was it.
I did not have...
Maybe I had it and it was dormant, but I wasn't aware of, let's say, any kind of healing ability.
The other side to why Judge wanted me to go to chiropractic school is because it's one of those professions where you can legally put your hands all over people.
I had...
At this stage now, at 48 years of age, I've probably touched close to 150,000 different bodies.
And I'm able to read and feel from sheer experience of touching the bodies.
And chiropractic kind of gave me a legal way to do this.
You know, that I could be touching someone and then downloading information because this was that big gift they were talking about.
All of a sudden you're going to be able to touch somebody and download more or less their hard drive.
So you're looking into their their biography to see what's wrong in their biology.
So did you did you in other words did this manifest for you in the real world or were you just you were being told this is gonna happen to you but you hadn't experienced it yet?
I had been told during the death experience that this was going to happen.
But there's so much going on.
But you hadn't done it.
I mean, I assume in the hospital you weren't going around touching people and experiencing it.
It started building up towards it.
It became more of just seeing things into more tangible, like I said, landing in one place That would change the course of another individual's life.
It was becoming more palpable, let's say, where before it was a vision or a dream or a, I see somebody, I see dead people, you know, it becomes physical at this stage.
Okay.
So I'm in school and all of a sudden, you know, when we're in palpation class and we're learning how to feel the spine, I'm touching someone and these stories are beginning to form.
And I'm getting these, what I call now, mind movies.
And with this is information of going, oh my gosh, she's got X, Y, or Z. And that's actually coming from the fact that when she was 12 years old, her uncle touched her and she was traumatized by this.
You know, this is how it began to play out.
And so it was kind of like, what do you do with that?
Especially when someone isn't, in the beginning days, Nobody was coming to me for that.
So you can't just go around throwing that kind of information at somebody because you're standing next to them in the elevator.
So you were given this information, you developed the abilities, and then you sang kind of gradually, I guess you're trying to say.
And then it started to manifest.
And you had already...
You know, you remembered your dialogue with this, I guess mainly with this kind of individual who is your grandfather, right?
Telling you you're going to be doing this.
So you did sort of, I don't know, would you call it obeying him and going to chiropractic school?
Or did you, did circumstances create so that you actually wanted to go?
Because you're saying when he first told you, you didn't want to go.
So how did that change?
I didn't want to go back to school.
Then I got over myself and realized, okay, I can see the bigger picture here.
I couldn't see all of it, but I knew I had to take those first steps.
I trusted him.
I had trusted him my entire life.
I followed what he said.
Now, at this stage, the college sweetheart is now my husband.
You can imagine, I was not what he had signed up for.
I was one person prior to the accident and then I'm a completely different person as these things are happening.
The poor guy, how it lasted as long as he did is amazing.
We were married for five years and so we divorced while I was in chiropractic school because it was too much.
Let me tell you what would happen.
Now, I would go to bed and I might awaken at 3 o'clock in the morning and there is a voice.
You need to go to the hospital.
To room 238 on the second floor.
And there is a young man there who is hooked to life support.
And his family cannot unplug him.
He is a vegetable.
He is not going to recover.
And his family can't do it.
Okay.
So there's my husband asleep next to me in the bed.
And I'm getting up, putting my clothes on, following the voice.
And I go.
And sure enough, there's the mother waiting in the hallway.
And she said, I've been praying for you to come.
And I'm like, what?
And she had total trust that somebody was going to come and help.
And she said, I can't do it.
And she said, I know we have to let him go.
I cannot do it.
And I can't let them do it.
Fascinating, yeah.
And I said, okay, well, let's do it together.
And so I now have my first experience of placing my hands on somebody who is hooked to life support.
And this wave of...
It nearly makes me tear up thinking about it.
This wave of just divine love comes through.
And I had her hands under my hands.
We did it together.
And we were at her son's ankles.
And just this wash feeling that I know went through her as well.
This peace came through and he flatlined.
All right.
And I remember looking at that going, okay, this is big.
Because you're talking about all kinds of moral and legal and interesting things that I hadn't thought about before.
But in that moment, all you're there is to serve.
You don't care.
That stuff just doesn't matter.
So you can only imagine now...
I had been doing the whole astral projection thing all of my life, but now it's becoming really prominent.
And so...
My husband is asleep in the bed next to me.
Still to this day, I'm sure this was a catalyst to our separation.
Somehow he awakened and saw me coming out of the body.
And you have never heard such a scream in all of your life.
It terrified him.
And I remember the sensation of slamming back down into the body.
Kind of like I had a heart attack, it felt like.
And I remember looking at him with such sympathy.
I'm like, you know, how horrifying, how terrifying.
And at first, when things were happening, he was really kind of on board and it was exciting.
And then he began to realize that my marriage to him was never going to be my first priority again.
And he was right.
You know, I'm like 25 years old.
And what do you say?
I wasn't mature enough to be married and to serve.
And so I chose the service.
And that's how things began to sort of move into the more physical things.
So in my final year of chiropractic school, I'm now single.
You know, we've divorced.
And I had a friend moved into the house, a housemate, and he was such a love.
I adored this guy, JoJo.
And JoJo was really fun.
He was vegetarian, and he was always doing some wild detox, and he was just full of the joys.
He was a really fun guy.
And I'm now really struggling.
I'm working two jobs.
I'm putting myself through school.
And he comes in one night, and he said, do you mind if I have a little house party?
And I said, no, knock yourself out.
I've got to work anyway.
And so what he was having, though, was a psychic party.
So people were coming into our house and coming to see this girl we called Psychic Susie and they were having readings with her.
Now, again, you would think after being exposed to all this kind of stuff...
Okay, I'm just going to...
Sorry to interrupt you here.
I just want to say to the chat room, if people are going to be rude and make rude comments, you can just be blocked.
And, you know, I don't have a lot of time when I'm interviewing somebody.
I don't have anybody working this chat room.
But I want to say to you that if you...
Would like to be rude and all of that, just go elsewhere.
Just leave, please.
So that's just childish and it's completely unnecessary.
If you're not here to do a good thing, then leave.
So sorry about that.
Let's continue.
Go ahead.
That's okay.
I must be doing something right.
Yeah, people are getting stirred up.
They're freaking out.
They're acting juvenile.
Okay, so go ahead.
Okay.
So, um, we're at this, um, I come home from work and my housemate has, um, uh, this house party going on and people are sitting in my sitting room and going into this spare room and speaking with this psychic.
And like I said, you know, you'd think that I'd be okay with all that.
And I was just like, oh, rolling my eyes.
And I'm like, oh my God, you know, um, cause that's not really what I was.
I never saw myself like that, you know, which is, It's what I am, I guess.
But I just didn't see me like that.
So anyway, I go back to my bedroom, and about an hour later, he comes back and knocks on the door, and he said, she wants to see you.
And I said, she wants to see me.
And he goes, she just does.
So I go in there, and I'm sitting across from this woman, and she goes, you've been seeing something, haven't you?
And I'm going...
You don't know the half of it.
I've been seeing lots of somethings.
And she goes, no, you've been seeing symbols.
And now she really had my attention because at this stage, I had told absolutely no one, not my housemate, nobody.
I had been seeing these symbols for about the last three months.
And I was writing them down as they would come.
And I mean, they would come in every shape and form to get my attention.
They'd be flaming orange or they'd be...
Until I would record them.
And I had no idea what they were, only that they were really important and that they were very important to my past.
And that they were probably going to have something to do with my future.
But I just had no idea what they were.
And so she's now going, you've been seeing symbols.
And I'm like, oh my God, how do you know that?
And she's kind of like, and she goes, these are beacons for the next step of your journey.
And I said, what do you mean?
She goes, this is like a light switch.
This is something letting you know where you're going to be going next.
And I went, oh, where's that?
Because I don't even know where I'm going next, you know?
And she goes, oh, you're going to be going abroad.
And now I'm laughing because I'm like a poor college student, you know, with the two jobs and the gigantic student loan, and I've got like $5.
And she's telling me I'm going abroad.
The following Monday, I get called into the president's office of the school.
I was the president of the student body.
And he said, you've been invited to go speak to the chiropractic college in England.
And I was like, what?
Yeah.
And they're paying for, you know, the school's paying for this.
And I was like, what?
So next thing, I'm going abroad, right?
So I go over and I meet some friends.
And during the time while I was there, I ended up taking a weekend trip over to Ireland.
And I went with a friend of mine and, um, This friend, we were traveling around and she knew about the symbols because we've been on a plane together and I told her everything.
And I'm like, look, I'm in pursuit of these things.
I don't know what they are or where they are or whatever.
So we get over to Ireland and we are taking a little trip around and we landed in Galway.
We're in this pub and we're sitting down having a pint or whatever and this guy, classic Irish with the ginger hair, he hears us talking and he said, ladies, how are you?
Great.
Very friendly as the Irish are.
He said, would you ever need a tour guide?
We were just that night and we're like, yeah.
The next thing, we're driving around the countryside with this guy that we just met in the pub.
He was a lovely fella.
He was really great.
We land in this little village and he goes into the shop and comes back out and each of us got this ring.
And he said, I just want you to have something to remember this by.
This has been really special.
And I'm like, oh, that's so sweet.
And I looked down at this ring and one of the symbols that I have been seeing is on this ring.
And I'm like, where'd you get that ring?
And he goes, oh my God, I'm sorry if you don't like it.
And I said, where did you get the ring?
And he's like, the shop over there.
And so I go through and there's this big tray of these Celtic rings and I'm tearing through them.
Nothing.
Not one other ring.
Only the one that he's bought and given to me has this on it.
And he was like, okay, you know what?
We've been hanging out for three days and I'm just going to come across and say this.
He goes, you are the strangest girl I have ever met.
And he's like, what is your deal?
What's going on?
And I was like, alright, look, I'm really close to finding something that is It's so important to me, but I can't really explain to you what it is because it's kind of mystical.
And he's like, spit it out.
What is it?
And I'm like, it's these symbols.
And so I show it.
And he was like, why didn't you say something earlier?
And I was like, what?
And he goes, get in the car.
So we get in the car and we drive the whole way across Ireland.
And now in the summertime, it stays very light until close to midnight here.
So it's like 1030 at night, and we arrived in the Boyne Valley at this place called Newgrange, which is a megalithic tomb.
I went there, yeah.
You've been there, yeah.
And, of course, it's closed.
It's a national monument.
It's like 1030 at night.
And he's like, you're leaving tomorrow.
We're doing this.
And I'm like, we're doing what?
He's like, come on.
And so next thing I know, I'm running through some farmer's field.
There's cow poop everywhere.
There's dogs barking and lights turning on.
And we're jumping the fence into this monument.
And I'm standing there looking at this, and I see three of the symbols that are in this alphabet.
And the hair is standing up all over my neck.
And in that moment, I knew I was home.
And when that psychic had said to me, you were going to find the next leg of your journey, there was absolutely nothing in that moment that was going to stop me from getting to Ireland.
Because I knew this is where...
I had to be.
And it's Ireland where all of this has unfolded for me.
You know, the opportunity to open a practice, you know, I've had a practice for 18 years and to be able to serve all of these people.
And then, you know, you mentioned before 2012, I had a bad injury.
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
Before you go on to that, I want to get back to this Newgrange thing where you saw symbols.
So I'm not understanding.
Are you saying that you saw them in your mind or did you see them on the walls?
What are you saying about that?
They were physically there at Newgrange.
Okay, where were they?
They're curved stones, you know, that are 5,000 years old around this thing.
Okay.
So there were some symbols in those, carved into those stones that you saw.
Correct.
Okay.
And so what's interesting about these symbols is that these are, it's called the Goet alphabet.
And this is a pre-Atlantean system of communication.
And you will find different ones, like some in Norse tradition.
You'll find some in Native American tradition.
It was Ireland where I found the first little smattering of these.
They're not all in, let's say, the own script or these pre-Celtic symbols, but a couple of them were.
Okay.
So I was finally on the trail and realizing that, you know, I had found the right way.
I found a town home.
But you were at Newgrange and you had climbed in there at night.
Is that correct?
So did you go into Newgrange?
Did you have any kind of experience beyond that at Newgrange?
Because Newgrange is quite an interesting site, needless to say, right?
And I had a lot of, you know, quite psychic whatever about things like this in places.
So I'm wondering what you got when you were at Newgrange.
Did you have anything come through that has also impacted you during these years of being in Ireland?
Yeah.
So when we were driving down the road still, before we had gotten there, I said, I just looked at this guy and I was like, where are you taking me?
Because I mean, the goose pimples, the hair on my neck was standing on end and it was an energetic thing.
As you well know, like this is the vortex of all vortexes, you know, it's the energy of the place.
And I'm like, It's just tingling all over.
And I'm like, dude, where are you taking me?
And I'm like, oh God, what have I gotten myself into here?
But I was like, I was coming alive.
It was this, it was the most incredible feeling.
But when I got in and I was looking at the place, part of when I see a mind movie, some of that I can see the same again as I'm seeing you.
It's not just in my head, it's in my vision as well.
And I could see the The importance, the ceremonial air around this place, the people, I could hear it, I could feel it, you know, that it wasn't just a burial tomb, that it wasn't just, you could see the sun coming in and lighting up the inside.
So for anybody who doesn't know, on the 21st of December in Newgrange, when the sun Is rising.
It aligns with this little box that's on the top of this megalithic tomb.
And the sun will go straight through and it illuminates the inside of this.
It's perfectly aligned.
It's incredible.
And there's Nouth and Doubt, which are two other smaller tombs that are around there that are equally as important as Newgrange, if not more.
And so for me, I was in that moment.
I was I was in the ceremony.
That's what was happening for me.
Okay, and what kind of...
I mean, because I don't think they're tombs at all, so let me just say that.
And I don't know whether you, you know, what you would get there, but I definitely get that, you know, that's actually a portal into other dimensions.
So it's like you might say it's a gate, you know, into other dimensions.
I would agree, 100%.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, but back in those days when you were there, did you do anything or see anything like more, can you be more specific?
Or did, is it something that you, maybe you've told us what you came across?
Are you able to articulate it a little more specifically, I guess?
Yeah.
Did you see people in hoods walking around a circle, you know, around fires?
When you see a ceremony, that's very general.
That's what I'm saying.
You know, I have since gone back many, many, many, many times and seen lots more of that.
But in this particular moment, in this aha moment, I've just, number one, broken the law and broken into this place through the fields and all that.
I thought it was for a good cause.
Yes.
And I had all of about 30 seconds to stand there because now car lights were pulling up.
The farmer was coming across the field.
There was a dog barking.
And so it was enough, though, to trip the switch, exactly like that woman had said.
It was like a light switch was going to go on.
Mission accomplished.
I was there, and I was so close to this, as you say, portal.
You know when you come in the presence of one of those places, and there's so many of them here in Ireland, the reverence of the moment, of being so close to that kind of gateway, that energy, it was enough right there to make me You know, relocate continents.
It was a huge moment.
Okay, but when you say you decided right then and there that Ireland was sort of your destiny at that point, how did your life change when you went back?
I assume you graduated from chiropractic college or whatever.
And then how did it sort of materialize to get you into Ireland where you are now 18 years in a practice?
So, well, I was dating a guy then.
You know, I was divorced and At that stage and then had just started dating a guy who was from Philadelphia.
He was a lovely fella.
We suited each other because we were both on our own missions.
We were a great company, but we weren't needy or dependent on one another.
It was really probably one of the most fun relationships I've ever had.
He was divorced.
I was divorced.
We were both very set.
He knew I was going to Ireland no matter what.
He was going back to Philadelphia no matter what.
He said, look, come to Philadelphia.
You know, while you're getting yourself together and, you know, we'll work there.
And he was wonderful.
Everything just was kind of unfolding for me that way, except for being able to get to Ireland.
I started hitting wall after wall of things, you know, that were preventing me, you know, like work permits and, you know, the legalities of being able to relocate to the country and without having to say that my ancestry would be way back and certainly not enough to get a passport or anything like that.
And, um, uh, I just kept hitting these walls.
And then all of a sudden a guy that I had met when I was in England that time calls me up and he said, Hey, I've just graduated and I'm, you know, I'm going to be opening my clinic in Dublin, but I'm also opening a clinic in Galway.
I was wondering if you would come over.
Yes.
Stop right there.
I'm on the way.
And, um, I had also done my internship there.
I was the first person out of my school to do an internship abroad.
And so I had met people, which had just made it so much more.
I wanted it so much more, and it just wasn't happening.
But when this guy finally called up and he was like, look, I need you to do this.
Once I got my foot in the door there, I was never leaving.
I was like, I am here.
I am staying.
That is it.
I did everything.
Once I made the commitment, things really began to fall into place.
The guy that I had done my internship for the year before suddenly had a practice for sale in Athlone, the one place that I really wanted to be.
I had met the secretary in that office and we just clicked.
There was magic in the air and music.
This town was right on the Shannon.
There was just Something here.
And I knew this was going to be my home.
And so, lo and behold, the very practice that came available for sale was here.
And so here I was.
Okay, so now, you know, we have been going for a while, and I know I don't want to keep you too long, but I do want you to talk about now your sort of, I guess you might say, your abilities, how they've grown over time, and, you know, how you've I don't know.
If you have some of these abilities, they kind of sound like something that would bring people to your door, like lining up for miles, you know, that kind of thing where the word might get out that you can sort of put hands on somebody and find out what's wrong with them and heal them.
So if this didn't happen, why didn't it?
And how did your journey unfold to the place where you are right this minute?
Okay, well, so...
Because of the commitment to having my hands on people and learning the body, the best way to do that is to do it, you know, and to be in practice.
And so I committed in my own mind that what I was going to be doing was chiropractic.
Came here, I fought this practice, I'm going to be gleaming all the experience, learning the body, listening to people's ailments, finding out, because people are always going to tell a story.
Nobody comes in and just goes, oh my back hurts and lays down on the table.
There's a story with it.
They've either just buried an uncle, they've just lost their mother, they were working out on the farm.
There were stories and I just became so fascinated by these stories and how the energy of the story affected the physicality of the individual.
So what began to happen though, I was allowed by the powers that be to practice peacefully.
But in about 2011, I started getting this big nudge.
It's time to get out.
Time to get out.
Time to get out.
And I loved my patience, and I loved my practice, and I did not want to do that.
And so I, of all people, should know better, and I did not listen to my own advice when I would tell you, hey, when the voice is telling you to move on, move on.
I didn't do it.
I was like, okay, I'll do it next Easter.
Maybe in the summer.
Okay.
And so things were getting very gray during that time.
You know, a lady would come in for her adjustment and she's face down on the table and next thing her dead mother's in the corner.
And I'm like, I don't do that on Wednesdays.
You know, like negotiating with the dead lady.
Because if someone's coming to you for one thing and all of a sudden you're throwing something else on them, you know, that's a lot for someone to digest when they're just coming to get their back, you know, looked at.
And things were getting gray like that.
A lady comes into the room and she said, look, I've been coming to you for a long time and I know that you're a little different.
I'm going to tell you about a back pain that you've probably never heard about before.
And she proceeds to tell me about this experience she had where a light comes into her room and And there's a being in her room, and her husband is frozen in the bed next to her, and she has this kind of extraterrestrial experience.
And she ends up, a couple weeks later, with this horrific back pain, goes to the doctor.
They do MRI scans, and she has this perfect circular disc shape taken out of her spinal cord.
So her doctor's explanation is, you must have been born that way.
And she's like, are you actually mad?
I told you this happened three weeks ago, but she can't tell them why it happened, right?
So she comes in, and now I'm getting these stories.
So I'm like, is this my chiropractic hat, or is this the metaphysical hat?
And this is happening more and more and more.
And I'm getting that big knock, you know, you've got to get out, time to get out.
And I'm like, I'm not doing it, I'm not doing it.
Well, suddenly this guy comes in who's a professional rugby player, six foot four, and he fails to tell me that he gets woozy at the dentist or at the doctor or, you know, if he sees a needle or if he sees whatever.
And so I'm standing with this plastic spine and I'm showing him something on the spine that's relating to his own spine.
And next thing he swoops around and boom, he faints on top of me.
And my shoulder is now hanging out of the socket.
So when I go to my own doctor, he's like, you're done.
And I'm like, yeah, I know, but for how long?
What's going on here?
He goes, no, you're finished.
And I'm like, finished.
He said, your career's finished as a chiropractor.
And I was like, oh my God.
And I had no one to blame but myself because I had been told for months leading up to that to get out.
And I didn't listen because I didn't want to.
I was being stubborn.
Okay, and well, let me, just because your choice of words I thought was really strange, you said things went gray.
What in the world does that mean to you?
Why are you using the word gray when you're actually talking about seeing, you know, entities and this and that?
What do you mean by gray?
Well, gray area as in the line was blurring, I should have said, I guess, not gray as in the grays.
Or the color gray.
Not the color gray, then.
You mean the line between realities was thinning.
Is that what you mean?
Much better way of saying it, yes.
My job as a doctor, you know, and just doing the doctor thing, and my new forthcoming job as a full-time metaphysician are now starting to The two worlds are starting to cross.
And this didn't happen until how many years into your practice?
That was like 2012.
So, I mean, 13 years into the practice.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
I'm seeing stuff all the time.
Right.
All the time.
But I am conscious, very, very conscious of the fact that people are coming to me for chiropractic care.
It's interesting, so you're still making sort of a split in your world, even during this time.
Okay, so this happened to you, and you basically, when you knew, I mean, how did the realization, I understand the man said to you your career was over, but did you have a conversation with...
Back with your grandfather?
In other words, about this sort of thing, at that point, did you say, okay, I've been resisting this, but now I have to do this, or whatever?
Yeah, and see, remember, I've already launched three books at this stage, letting the cat out of the bag.
So it's not like it's a big mystery.
Everyone who knows me, it's me who's waiting around.
Everyone who knows me knows that I do this.
But they're all like, what are you doing?
And I was...
I was so deeply entwined in my relationship with my patients and that life.
Also, two little girls at the time.
There is the very human thing of, can I make a living doing this?
Am I supposed to take that full leap and trust that I'm going to be okay to, you know, I'm a single mom, pay for my kid's school and the mortgage and the...
So, okay, well, that's a good question then.
So what did you do in order to bridge that gap?
Is it writing the books that bridge the gap for you?
Well, I did both for a little while.
That blurred line area was when I was kind of toying.
I was talking more and more in the office, in the practice with people about the other stuff that I do, because I was doing it, but I was doing it on the QT, on the side, completely separate.
Because I went to a school that had a philosophy.
We were called straight chiropractors, and a straight chiropractor is someone who does not mix modalities.
When people are coming, you are selling them this final correction.
Your body is better without interference and subluxation.
You're not massaging them.
You're not giving them tablets.
There's no mixing.
To be fair, mixing the spiritual aspect of it, that's still mixing, even though it was.
I was really deeply ensconced in that philosophy.
When I did metaphysics, I did metaphysics.
When I did chiropractic, I did chiropractic.
Okay, fair enough.
I see that.
That's how that was going.
And so then I made the leap and I went, I'm hanging the shingle up.
You know what?
I'm getting somebody in.
I'm hiring a chiropractor to come into the office.
And I'm setting the room up in the back and I'm going to actually be this.
And that's how that began.
And then all of a sudden I'm public speaking.
You know, I've been doing that for a while because of the books.
But now I'm doing more of it and more of it.
And it then very rapidly became my life.
Okay.
So what is, when you said you're hanging the shingle, what do you call yourself?
Metaphysician.
You know, metaphysician.
How do you put all that stuff on a business card?
It's kind of like, you know, the biggest thing now, to be quite honest, because, you know, I'm 48.
I've been dealing with all of this kind of stuff since I was, you know, hardcore since I was 21.
All of my life, really.
Right.
And when you're interacting with people's stories that way, it's not that it takes from me energetically so much, you know, it's not that, because it's not me.
But the emotional aspect of it, because I care so deeply about each and every one of these stories.
And so I began to realize, and the direction I move now is, how can I best empower people?
Because you can't be there for everyone.
And let me tell you, it's heartbreaking when you get this email And it's this person who has cancer, and it's this person who's got HIV, and it's this person, you know, I'm one person.
And the reality of this, and my hand on my heart, is that I believe with everything that I have, that every one of us has access to that kind of healing energy.
And so what I call myself, you say, you know, what do you call yourself?
Really, it's a window washer.
You know, you're wiping the window clean so that people can find their own way.
They can see out.
The muck and the grime of life has clogged over the fact that they have forgotten that they already are that which they seek and that they are divine.
And I believe that if you can show people that through other people's stories, that's why we got to tell our stories.
You know, in the world, you know, when you're dealing with people who have had out of this world experiences or who dealt with ETs or who dealt with all, if we don't talk about it, then it is weird because it's only the odd person who has to put so many people have had these experiences, but they don't talk about it.
So it's trying to bring the stories together.
And that's what I'm doing now.
Alright, so what about interaction with ETs?
You talk about seeing dead people, but what about...
I think you do have some interactions.
So have you put that into your books?
Have you talked about it?
Do you talk about it?
I did, and I lost a big publishing contract last year because I did, and I refused to take it out.
So I am still waiting on...
The right publisher for this new book, because I will not.
I absolutely refuse to change this.
They loved all, even as far as the past life stories, and they were wonderful, and this.
And then when it came to the tough stuff, they were like, well, you know, I don't know how we're going to...
That's my truth right now.
Right.
And I'm not...
Look at...
It definitely ain't about the money, I can tell you that.
You don't become wealthy writing books.
Very few do and very few fortunate do.
You're doing it because you love what you do and you need to tell your story.
So I refuse not to disclose this information.
Okay, and in the short time, I mean, you know, again, this has been going for a while, so I'm trying to see time-wise.
There are people in the chat that have questions, so I want to give them a chance to ask their questions as well.
But I would like it if you would explain when you're talking right now, you're saying you do have a sort of a chapter or incidents that have happened to you Can you relate, you know, one of those incidents or anything leading up to it?
Have you, you know, started to see craft?
You know, what was the sort of genesis of all that?
Well, for me, I work with a group, you know, when people ask, you know, sometimes being psychic isn't just being psychic.
And I'm not going to sit here and tell you it's because I'm so gifted and special.
I have help all the time.
And for...
As long as this has been going on, I've been hearing voices.
I'm not talking about schizophrenic voices.
These are voices that would give me very distinct information like going to the hospital in the middle of the night and the room number and what I was going to be doing.
That's not schizophrenia.
That is you're being guided to something.
I eventually said, are there any faces?
I think I've shown you that I'm dedicated to this.
Give a little something here.
The time came when I actually met those voices.
I refer to them as the council.
C-O-U-N-S-E-L because they're my council.
There were nine at first.
The very first time that I got to see them...
It wasn't an awful lot different to the dying experience, to be quite honest.
Landing in that space, only the room, I'll call it, that I was in when I was able to interact with them, the room had no walls, yet gave the sense of enclosure.
As weird as that sounds.
You know, it's not like I was standing out in an open space.
But there weren't walls either.
And there were these nine.
Each of the nine were different.
They wore What looked like a clothing, and I totally think that was for my benefit.
You know?
Because they're cognizant of the fact that you are still, regardless of what gift you might have or not, you're still in the human body and doing the whole human thing.
And, you know, you're going to get freaked out, and they've got to be careful with that.
And, you know, I'm standing here looking at these beautiful, odd, you know, each one different.
And then eventually there were 12.
So the last three came from a place that was very familiar to me.
They were kind of a cerulean blue and were identified as Arcturian.
Now I can't tell you that I knew anything about Arcturus prior to that because I didn't.
I am probably, you know, for someone who has these types of experiences and does all this, I'm probably the least knowledgeable about all of the different realms and planes, even though I've seen a lot of them, you know?
So, the experience with these guys, they are frequency-based, and because I work with frequency, I use a lot of Solveggio frequency work, human organs frequency work, because that's all we are, is frequency and light.
These guys are, that's kind of their area of expertise, which is why I think I work with them.
So I've described them as, if you can picture Tony Robbins, you know, very tall, big guy, kind of the, you know, the large head, but hairless and blue.
That's what these guys look like.
Well, that's a good description.
Okay, so you're interacting with them.
Are you interacting with them for many years now or is this a you know only one time thing or how is that?
Since the healing started they are distinctly and directly responsible for anything I am able to do.
If I am sitting there and I'm working on an individual and I am suddenly acutely aware of the fact that something that happened to them 36 years ago Is now the culprit or cause of the distress that their physical body is in?
They're telling me.
Do we call that psychic?
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know.
Is it?
Well, it's kind of a form of telepathy.
Well, it's telepathic, I think, in a certain way.
So, what can you say about...
You know, where you go from here.
And then we'll take some questions from the chat.
Just for people's knowledge, who might also, you can give out, you know, a website and these various things.
As I say, on my Project Hamlet portal.com.
Or ProjectHamlet.tv website.
I have, you know, where this is also being streamed from.
If you're on that page, you will see there's a description with a link to her, to one of her books on Amazon that I was aware of.
So, you know, and it's the bio you sent me with the links in there.
So, but you want to explain, you know, If people want to contact you, how to do that, and also where you're going with your, you know, if you want to call it a career or your mission, where are you going from here?
Yeah, the strange thing.
So you were asking about people queuing up outside the door.
It's really funny.
I'm always busy, that's for sure, you know, and I have quite a long waiting list, but I'm able to move fairly quickly, you know, through that.
But I also am recognizing that, you know, as far as longevity goes, I'll die in service.
I will be serving until the day I die.
I recognize that.
But I would like to preserve myself.
I'd like to be here for my children.
I have to be better.
And I've been getting lots of very distinct messages about that through my health and through my own personal well-being that I need to change tact a little bit.
Because the first thing...
A publisher I had years ago with my very first book said to me, you are the sickest healer I have ever met.
And it hurt my feelings so badly.
Because I was like, you know what?
How dare you say something like that?
And then I had a laugh afterwards and I realized what he was trying to say.
Because I do get sick a lot.
And the reason I get sick a lot, number one, is...
I live in Ireland and it's wet and damp all the time.
But I am also constantly going because I do have a hard time saying no.
And you might go, oh, you've got to draw your boundaries and do this.
I'm sorry.
When you know that you have the ability to help somebody move from A to B or to overcome this obstacle and it is life changing for them, it's really hard to go, sorry, I can't right now.
I'm resting.
I know I have to do that, but I also know a lot of other people who have this particular ability tend to move out of that and then end up writing books.
I want to do a bit of both.
Working with audiences, I like speaking and that exchange with people, answering questions.
Like I said, I'm such a firm believer that if a person can just unlock That personal power that they already have, I think they can do this.
I know they can.
And I've watched it happen.
So have you considered teaching the techniques that you use?
See, that's, you know, I've used, I've done lots of workshops with the frequencies, with tuning force and this kind of thing.
But as far as like what I personally do, I can't teach that because it's the result of I know that's kind of a contradiction, though, if you just said, you know, because I'm in agreement with you.
I think everyone has these abilities.
And of course, we just bring in the healing if we want.
But, you know, in the end, any healer knows that everyone heals themselves.
It's simply, you're like a facilitator.
You kind of help open the doors, and then the person does the rest.
And the person's help, you know, comes from other beings, you know, that they're in touch with, and so on and so forth.
So, you know, in other words, you're like a guide.
So...
In a sense, what I'm talking about is not teaching chiropractics, but teaching this other...
There are things that can be taught.
In other words, awakening, ways of awakening, ways of stimulating awakening, et cetera, et cetera.
I'm with you now.
Yeah, I got you.
Yeah, and this book that I just finished, that's what Understanding is the New Healing is.
It was my first...
This Promise by Heaven had a load of these stories in it, and they edited them all out and made it about me.
And I was like, hang on a second.
And they're like, we know what we're doing.
And I'm like...
The whole point of doing this is I wanted people to hear these stories.
So I have been dying to write this particular book because it was the stories because that's where I believe that people are going to start getting this ability because they're going to start remembering, clicking in, recognizing that they can do this.
So yes, that's how in teaching someone to do that, for me, it's those stories.
It's through the story.
I take what's happening in the field, I guess, with me, with the work that I'm doing and And turn it into the story that anybody can take and relate to their own life.
Okay, and that's great to hear.
Well, I think it's fascinating to talk with you and a lot of fun, and I think that there's a lot more going to go on here, and I hope you'll stay in touch so we can sort of see where you go from here.
I am going to look really quickly here and ask people if they do have basically a Let's see.
If anyone has a question, put it in all caps, please.
And I also want to say that, you know, some is, I guess some people may ask, are your stories about your own knowledge of your own past lives, are they in these books or one of these books at this point, or have you not done that yet?
There's one, the one that I was telling you about, the Atlantean one, that's in Promise by Heaven.
All right.
But there is more detail about that and I have since met other people from that time and their stories are in this new understanding book.
And also there's about the council, there's about two other Arcturians that I interacted with, the lady I was telling you about the story, the disc and the ET interaction there, her story's in there and The final story, which is the one that really kind of got me into hot water with the publisher, that they were like, you know, we'll take this if you drop this out.
And I just said, can't do it.
A lady that I met over in Glasgow, and I know you said earlier, why is this strange to you?
You've been doing this your whole life.
I am still in awe and fascination every single day.
When I see someone Fuel themselves from something.
When I see something miraculous take place, when I see that aha moment, I will be like a child at Christmas every time.
I think that's what allows me to keep going because I'm so fascinated still.
This is probably the strangest thing that ever happened to me.
I was with my agent here in Dublin and we had gone over to Glasgow for a Actually, a Louise Hay event.
Wayne Dyer was speaking, and Brian Weiss, Many Lives, Many Masters, and Anita Morjani was making her debut at this particular thing.
It was a real interesting seminar.
And so we had just finished something, and Mairead, my agent, ran into this lady she knew.
Older lady, she was in her mid-80s, and they were all delighted to see each other.
Why don't we meet for dinner later?
Okay, that's great.
We're walking back to our hotel and Rae says to me, all I'm going to say to you is it will be the most interesting dinner you've ever had in your life.
I went, okay.
We go back and we meet this lady.
First thing off the bat is that she wasn't waiting for us.
She was hungry so she had ordered her food and her food arrived as we arrived.
She's got this gigantic steak and this huge big glass of wine.
She's just eating and chewing and talking.
She was just a character.
She But like 80, 85 years old.
And she was wearing like crinkly clothes, you know, and a cardigan that had steak sauce on it or whatever.
Just a real character.
And so she's eating and chewing away and she turns to me and she said, you know, we've been following you.
We've been watching what you're doing.
And I said, I'm sorry, what?
It's a parade is sitting across the table.
And I don't know if she set me up.
Like that she knew this was gonna happen, but she said she didn't.
But anyway, her eyes are like deer in headlights.
And so she said, do something for me.
And I said, what?
And she said, close your eyes.
And I said, okay.
The next thing, she put something into my hand.
And she goes, don't open your eyes.
And she goes, tell me what you feel there.
It was the strangest feeling thing I have ever put my hands on.
And I just said, this isn't from here, is it?
And she said, correct.
And I'm feeling, I still have my eyes closed, and I'm feeling around the outer edge of it.
And she said, you can open your eyes now and have a look.
And I looked down, and it's this disc that looked like a giant hockey puck.
It was like this, and it was made out of the most bizarre-looking metal.
It was like a burnished copper kind of metal.
And there's something raised all around the perimeter of the disc.
And I'm like, hold on a second, and I'm looking.
It's the symbols.
The symbols I've been carrying around all my life, right?
And I'm like, what is this?
And she said, what do you think it is?
And I said, I have no idea.
And she starts laughing, laughing, laughing.
And I'm like, oh my God, what's going on here?
And she goes, look, we like the way that you've been giving the information out.
It's digestible.
It's easy for people to follow.
It's accessible.
But it's big information.
And we like this.
And I'm going, who is we?
Who is we?
You know?
And so she says, I want to tell you a little something about myself.
And I said, okay.
And so she goes on to tell me that she has this bizarre, extraordinary number of passports.
And that her job is she works with a group who ensure that The souls who come to this planet get what they came here for.
Like a cruise director.
And I'm going, sorry, what?
And she said, there are teams of us everywhere.
And she said, I bet you have no problem when Mairead says, oh, I called my angels in and my angels assisted me with this.
And I'm like, yeah, you know, I'm used to her saying that.
It's just, you know, well, lots of people say that.
And she said, did it ever cross your mind That if your soul came to this planet for the dichotomy of dark and light, that there is also someone to facilitate that you get the darker experiences as well to make sure that you're having the well-rounded earth experience.
And I'm speechless.
And I'm like, yes, it makes complete sense.
And she said, does it cross your mind then that there are beings responsible for Causing these things to happen.
I said, I guess, yeah, yeah, you know.
She said, well, I have this many passports because I might be in Syria tomorrow.
I could be in America next week.
I could be in Africa in three weeks time.
And you might hear of these women coming together and sparking a revolution.
You might hear of this student taking out a shotgun and shooting every member of his classroom.
You might hear of this village suddenly getting clean drinking water.
And she went on and on, and my mouth is hanging open.
It's not so much that the concept didn't make sense to me, because it did.
But it's when someone articulates it for the first time and you're putting all these bizarre pieces of your life together in one thing.
And, you know, what's going through my mind?
I'm like, oh my God, are you a reptilian?
You know, everything is crossing my mind because it was the way that she said that.
But when I related this story in the book, I said one of the things about being me and having these experiences is I don't ever again make that the truth.
I'm relating to you through the story.
Here's something that happened to me.
And it doesn't make it the truth.
It makes it a thing that happened to me.
And I think the more we have stories of things that happened to people, the better idea that we're going to have of how this world actually works.
The interesting thing about this lady, Rose, was we kept in contact afterwards.
I was fascinated by her.
At first, I didn't know whether it was a strangler or a restrainer or a hugger or what.
You're in the dichotomy of dark and light.
I'm like, you're making good and bad things happen to people.
It's bizarre.
She kept in touch through email.
She would send me these Funny little messages from wherever she was doing her thing.
And I don't know, she just liked me.
And I liked her.
And we'd communicate.
And a couple of years after, I get this email from somebody who was regretting to inform me that Rose had been in Syria and was walking across the crosswalk at the airport and had been run over by a black SUV. And...
It was, you know, one of those moments, like I'd only met her in person once.
But I had been, you know, in this correspondence.
So we developed a relationship.
And I didn't know, I didn't even know how to feel.
The death thing, that part doesn't bother me.
Did I think she was upset or worried by death?
Absolutely not.
It was just that, again, it's that darkness.
It's that realization that As positive as I am about the world, that there is a shadow side to positivity as well because when those dark things get, it really drops you.
It lands you on your ear and you've got to brush yourself off and pick up and keep going.
The publisher thought that this was just too much.
I'm like, this really happened.
If I take the stuff that makes you feel comfortable, then I am being a It's sensationally selective here and to me, inauthentic.
And that's my worst nightmare.
Sure.
You know, it really is.
Especially when you're dealing with this kind of stuff.
So I sit patiently waiting for the next publisher to come along who's going to be okay with that story and with the Wu people and the Arcturians and the, you know, not just the stuff that people already heard.
That's very good to hear.
And I think that my audience will certainly appreciate your stories.
I did want to ask, in terms of the thing that she showed you, this object, you never quite explained where did it come from or anything.
Did she ever elaborate on where it came from?
I mean, you recognize the symbols, but where did it come from?
The disc was Arcturian.
Okay.
I'm dying to know, like, what happened?
Where was it?
And it was like she had the control in the moment, for sure.
But she was playing with me in a nice way, in a playful way, you know, because she knew she had absolutely rocked my world in that moment.
And, you know, so no, I can't tell you what this disc did.
All I know is that there's this thing that has been following these symbols, following me through my entire life, you know, because I've Know that I was a caretaker.
These are symbols that interlock with one another.
They have a picture like a USB key.
That's what those symbols are.
They have volumes of information.
And when they interact with each one, it's like a whole new library opens up.
And then there's a 20-second primer symbol.
You know, so...
I know this is sort of material, but I'm just curious.
So she shows you this thing.
You look at it.
You start the discussion.
Does she put it back in her purse or something?
In her ripped up weird little handbag.
Yeah, okay.
Yeah, that's a hoot.
I mean, it's actually...
What do you do with that?
You know, and then she's like slopping down the wine and cutting up the steak and, you know, and she's just...
She's in her zone, man.
And I'm just like...
I'm stunned.
I'm just actually shell-shocked.
And I'm glad those things still happen to me because it makes me aware that because I'm so used to talking about this kind of stuff, that you always have to be aware that what you and I might consider our normal now, that some people, it's the first time they're ever hearing it or they're ever hearing it in that context.
And it is life-changing or mind-blowing for them.
So it's nice that it happens to you every now and again to kind of keep you on the straight and narrow.
Fair enough.
Okay, so thank you for that.
Now, I am looking in the chat.
I'm looking to see if there's any really specific question for you.
And if anyone wants to quickly put something in all caps, I'll ask it.
I'm dying to know.
The individual that you scolded earlier, what were they saying?
Oh, well, no.
You don't want to know, actually.
You know, people come on.
No, they do.
They talk pornographically.
It's really weird.
Oh, exactly.
And it's like little children, you know, bad boy type actions and all of that stupid stuff.
I mean, it's really serious troll activity.
Okay, so it wasn't something about the...
Material or not believing the...
No, no, no, no.
Actually, nothing to do...
I mean, people live in their own worlds in the chat to some degree.
Now, some people are paying attention.
Now, someone says...
Someone wants to know if this question is meaningful to you.
Any entity you recommend calling on to incorporate the shift?
Bit of a strange question.
That would be a little bit probably out of my league because as far as specific, it's funny because I had a man come in to me for a session last week who gave the name of a specific entity that he follows and all.
And I can't look at that and say it's strange when I'm sitting here telling you that I deal with a council.
But it's like the work that I'm doing is specific to, it's like almost like they were assigned to monitor my work and make sure I do it, number one.
So Gosh, is Jesus an entity?
Is Buddha an entity?
Everybody has something that fits for them.
Do I have one that I recommend calling in?
No, because I think it very much so depends on who you are, what you're here to learn, what you're here to give back.
I think yours might not be mine and mine might not be yours.
Yeah, and I have to say that the question comes from sort of a more of a, sorry to say, a dark magic kind of request.
In other words, seeing dark entities and then thinking they can facilitate things for you.
And I don't think that's really what's being said here.
So just to make people aware of that.
Someone is asking...
Go ahead.
Well, no, if you want to answer something, go ahead.
You know, I have, over the last couple of years especially, there have been a lot more, and maybe it's because I need it.
You know, of course, you and I both know that you're creating your own experiences.
And so I think that more of this came into my life because I needed more familiarity with it.
Suddenly people were coming in with entity attachments left, right, and center.
And I've always gone, you know, I don't really deal with anything that's that dark.
I guess I do, but it doesn't affect me or bother me that way.
I don't focus on it as a dark thing.
It's like another day at the office kind of thing.
I had a guy come in.
This guy was head of a company, very switched on, very physically fit, He and his partner were separated, but he was a very hands-on father and all this, but he was finding himself waking up buck naked in his office after being blacked out for like five hours.
And so it turns out that he comes in, he has this entity, and this thing is like pissing, and the guy's like flopping and levitating off the table.
I mean, it was just, and I stood there.
I mean, I get tickled at myself.
You know, yes, you've been doing it so long.
And I just stood there.
And you know, this is when the priest would have been there with the cross going, you know, and I'm like, and I'm going, are you done?
Like, seriously, are you finished yet?
You know, and it's so funny how these things, and we give them so much power, this dark entity, it's just disorganized energy that got attracted to the fact that you're missing the mark somewhere.
It's attracting to some lower vibration that you're rocking.
It's just not that mystical.
You know, it's like stepping in two.
You know, and you got dog poo on your shoe, you need to clean it off.
And we give it so much power, you know, and it's just not.
It might have some bells and whistles, but it's actually quite limited.
You know, it's just so limited.
Fair enough.
Okay, well said.
So, now there is one person that's asking, I think, a good question that might come to other people as well, which is, can you heal yourself?
Because you mentioned that you have a lot of illnesses.
Now, I want to say, because I am a healer, I don't practice it, but sometimes I do consultations, whatever.
And I have done a few healing type things.
And I know that, you know, you can tend to carry this stuff around with you if you do not clear yourself on a regular basis, that it's quite dangerous.
You know, in order to be a healer to some degree, you have to be empathetic, you know, an empath to some magnitude.
And, you know, this, I think, is a very common problem with healers is they start to get their energy drained and they also...
Don't cleanse them.
They cannot separate themselves.
And they end up carrying a lot of other people's stuff around and all of that.
So I would say that just generally, and you can speak to this, that maybe your illnesses are actually that.
That it's not actually you who's sick.
It's that you've ended up carrying around something from a previous interaction.
And that it's then affecting you in a detrimental way.
And you just need to clear it.
So, what do you say to that?
Yes.
But I also, in that accident, you know, I've badly injured my body.
Okay.
And while it's still rocking and it's still getting me around and all, I've got a lot of stuff in there that's compromised.
Okay.
So that, from the physicality of that, that's my reality.
And there's some of that that's been fixed and some of it can't be.
And I'm okay with that.
I have totally made peace with that.
I don't need to be 100% well, whatever well means, in order to be effective.
That I have made peace with.
Do I like feeling good?
Yeah, absolutely.
But I've also grown very accustomed to the fact that I have daily pain from the injuries and all that.
It's not my focal point.
It's just not what I give my time and attention to.
You broke my neck.
I smashed my pelvis.
I can't hear out of this ear.
You just get on with it.
You just do.
Let me ask you.
It's like something was missing.
An arm was missing or whatever.
I've had cancer.
I had breast cancer when I was 22.
When I walked down the aisle with the boy who was the best friend that I was going to be with her for about five years and a couple of months into the marriage.
I knew that I really had no business being married and what was drawing my attention to that was the fact that I found this breast tumor and at that time he and I learned to make this tea You know, this Essiac tea, and I used that to heal this tumor.
And to this day, I have had, and I mean thousands of people on that tea in my time.
I don't regret that illness whatsoever, you know?
A lot of, I'm going to say a lot, everything that I've ever had crossed my path actually ended up serving in some other way.
Sure.
My best friend goes, aren't you just so sick of that?
You know?
Yeah, sometimes I do.
And especially now I'm getting older.
It's getting a little bit harder to recover.
And I'm about ready to go, okay, guys, I think I don't want to do that part anymore.
You know?
Because I became a really good doctor because the fact that nobody could come in and go, oh, I've got this weird such and such.
And I'm like, well, I've had that.
I know exactly what that feels like.
And I know where it's coming from.
You know?
Yeah.
It's not that I have fun with the illnesses merely.
I know it sounds twisted and bizarre, but from the time I was a child, illness was my way of doing things.
I stayed home from school so I could watch old movies because of illness.
Illness equals leverage in my life.
Sometimes it still does.
Sometimes it's the only thing that will get me to stop.
I told you I had trouble saying no.
Sometimes it's the only thing that gets me to say no.
Okay, fair enough.
I do want to say that, I don't know, have you ever heard of Richard Bartlett and Matrix Energetics?
Oh my, okay.
Yeah, last week.
First time I'd ever heard it yet.
Oh, okay.
Because I've had him on my show.
You can watch my interview with him and his wife as well.
And they're both very involved in this healing modality.
And he was a chiropractor.
You and he have a lot in common.
In the sense that you both kind of gravitated toward healing through some very metaphysical type experiences.
And so you will also have a similar background, of course.
But he does have this amazing sort of healing technique that does...
Sort of teach us to, let's see, bring from other dimensions our healed body, so to speak.
Because we really are a hologram, as many people are starting to realize and scientists are talking about.
And so this can possibly also assist you in your quest if you wish.
I do recommend his work, and he's a fascinating individual.
He's a lot of fun.
He has a great sense of humor, just like you do.
So I think you'd resonate on that level.
And, you know, he did help me with healing quite a while ago.
And so I've also interacted with him, you know, one on one over Skype.
And he does healings over Skype.
And so now people will ask you if you do healings over Skype and this sort of thing.
Do you do anything like that?
Yeah, again, in part of that rearranging my life, you know, I just went through my hand up, I'm almost embarrassed to say it now, but three weeks solid of an illness after.
It's just, I landed in a place where there were two people who were meant to continue to live who ended up in a coma, and I had to do the work on them on the same day.
And it was a lot.
And it's also, you know, I was just back from Los Angeles for a month and I was tired and there was a lot going on.
The girls were going back to school and blah, blah, blah.
It got me.
Hands up, it got me.
I wore myself out.
Yeah, so...
Okay, but that's actually not my question.
My question is in terms of dealing with people on Skype.
Do you do healings?
People who listen to this are going to ask you because they're around the world, of a worldwide audience.
So do you want people to try to book appointments with you over Skype?
Do you do that kind of work?
Or do you only do it in person?
Yeah, what I was moving to is that I'm doing more of that.
Alright.
I'm moving more from the physical presence.
I mean, because I do it with friends and stuff all the time, but I'm moving more into, because I work globally now, you know, I work in Germany and L.A. and Virginia Beach and here.
It's really hard to kind of, I can't be in all those places like every year.
And so, yes, I am now moving more into the whole Skype thing.
Alright, okay.
I have a I have a place on my website where people can sign their number and Skype and all this kind of stuff.
So, yeah, we're getting there.
I'm kind of getting into the whole technological thing, reluctantly.
Okay.
So, do you want to give out your website so that people can find where to contact you?
And do you also have an email address or not?
Yeah.
It's www.MaryHelenHensley.com If they leave their email and they message, it comes directly to my email.
They're, in essence, getting me directly.
People can contact on that.
I'm on Facebook.
Dr.
Mary Helen Hensley.
Author is my official Facebook page.
Then I have Mary Helen Hensley as well.
I try to Twitter, but I'm not very good at all of this.
I think part of being this kind of a human being and doing the healing and all this, you know, there's some element of tism or ADD going on in there.
And so for me to try and do all of those things becomes very overwhelming.
You know, I've managed to learn how to do Facebook, but I think that's kind of his part of it.
Okay, well, I don't think it's a requirement that you do Twitter, but, you know, I'm sure that people are just interested in being able to interact with you, and obviously Skype or a format like this particular thing which I'm using right now to talk to you is called appear.in, and it's free, so that's good.
So, anyway, okay, well, it's lovely to have you on the show.
It's been a fascinating two hours.
Actually, more than two hours, I think.
And so I want to say, you know, thank you very much.
And I hope that you'll...
Let's see if I can get this going right.
Yeah.
So I want to invite you back in the future.
And please, everyone, you know, buy her books and support her work.
And it's great to know you.
And I was very delighted to meet you at the Irish Conference.
Very mutual.
Thank you.
And I want to say that I am going to actually be on, I think it's called OYM Radio.
It's an Irish radio station.
They're wonderful.
They're fabulous.
Yes, and I'll be on their show this Sunday.
So if you want to tune into that, just for the people that watch.
Actually, it's in Ireland.
It's going to be in the evening, but in my world, in California, it's in the morning.
Yeah.
And I understand you're like eight hours difference than we are.
I'm eight hours from you, yeah.
But you will love those guys.
They're fabulous.
Yes, I actually think they did interview me a long time ago, but it's been a while, and so that'll be fun.
So thank you very much, Mary Helen.
Thank you so much.
It's great to have you on the show.
Okay?
All right.
I look forward to talking to you again.
All right.
And everyone have a great weekend, and thanks for watching.
Thank you so much.
Okay, take care.
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