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July 24, 2017 - Project Camelot
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PHONE UPDATE WITH JOHN LEAR NOW ON YOUTUBE
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Hi everyone, I'm Kerry Cassidy from Project Camelot and I'm here today with John Lear.
And I'm very sorry for the late start.
We weren't sure whether we could get him on the line or not.
He's not been feeling too great but I think he is here with us today and I think we can connect all right.
So what I'm gonna do, John are you there?
Yes, Carrie, I'm here.
Okay.
Okay, good.
I'm going to sort of check with the chat and make sure you can be heard okay.
So everyone has been very concerned over your situation.
Do you want to describe where things are at for you?
And, you know, we're trying to get a donation campaign going, and I hope that people have, I believe they've started to come through for you, but I just want to make sure your guys are going to be safe and you're sort of Drive to get an air conditioner also is happening, so can you update us on what's going on with you?
Yes, Terry, you've been extremely helpful, and we've had a lot of donations that have helped Marilyn and me through this real tough summer.
We've been averaging 110 during the day, and the main air conditioner went out, and we had to come up with a $5,500 and we've almost reached our goal through your help and it's really nice.
We've got the air conditioning on now and unfortunately another one went out but we found out that all it needed was a condenser fan which I found on the web for $128 and it just came in this morning so things are looking up.
I wish I was feeling better but You know, I'm 74 years old and I'm not going to last all that long.
Okay, well, we'd like to keep you around for a bit longer if you don't mind.
And, you know, it's really been a joy to have you, you know, here on the planet updating us and keeping, you know, doing some great research.
And I think everyone will agree that your interviews are among my most popular interviews today.
And that's saying something with our huge audience of over 52 million.
Wow!
I just wanted to remind everybody to live their lives with integrity, without envy, aid, or greed, and to express their love to their family each and every day.
Lovely.
And what I want to do here with you this afternoon, if you have the time and you feel up to it, is just talk to you a little bit about what you see going on out there.
I don't know if you're having time to watch, you know, sort of what's going on with the researchers that are out there and the various, the changes in the media and what all is going on with Trump.
So what do you think about the current situation?
You know, I don't keep up too much with what is going on and just try to get the highlights and try to find out what's going on.
Okay.
In your situation, you know, you had over the years, I think, contacts with all kinds of people.
Of course, Bob Lazar being one of the famous contacts that you had.
Really, the list is very long.
Have these people gotten in touch with you since I've started my campaign, for example?
You know, they haven't, but it's amazing the people that have.
The people that...
I've heard me over the years and said, you know, most of the donations come in.
Somebody says, most of the guys say, you know, I've been listening to you ever since I was a little kid, listening to the radio late at night.
And it's really interesting and nice to hear that.
Oh, absolutely.
Well, what about Lou Baldwin?
Are you guys still in touch?
Yes, absolutely.
Lou gave a great, one of the largest donations, and I've tried to tell people that his books, if they wanted to know the real truth about what's going on, get any of Lou's books.
He has about 10 of them out there, and they are about interplanetary space and what's really going on.
Each book is fantastic with the information it puts out.
I asked him, I say, well, isn't this dangerous in letting everybody see or read this information?
He says, no, not that many people read it.
It's just the people who are truly, truly interested in the truth.
And that's true.
If you have a chance, anybody who wants to get Lou's book, that's Lou Baldwin, B-A-L-D-I-N, and either Amazon or Lulu.com, any of those booksellers have his books, and they're just so much fun to read.
Okay, well, I wish you'd convey to him that I'd love to have him come on my show if he has some time.
I had him on my radio show quite a long time ago, but I'd love to have him back on my YouTube show.
Okay, I'll talk to him.
He's like Bob Bizarro, though.
He just does not want to go on the media, but I'll talk to him about it.
Okay, that would be great.
If nothing else, just tell him it's a great way to get people aware of his books, and I'm sure he'd have a lot more sales if he was willing to do that.
Absolutely, Jerry.
I'm sure everyone has good reasons if they decide not to go public in a bigger way.
I do understand that.
It can make you a target and so on.
What about your situation?
Do you think you're being targeted during this time?
Do you think you're just have failing health from old injuries?
Or what do you think?
I think it's mostly old injuries, but boy, if they're targeting me, they're certainly doing a good job.
Every time I turn around, something else is going wrong.
But I'm hanging in there, Terry.
All right.
Well, I'm very glad to hear that.
Just in terms of what's going on and, you know, our latest interview that we did, which is, you know, tons of people have watched it and just really love listening to you and what you have to say.
Any new developments in that area?
For example, you know, the bases up around you and so on.
You aware of any new stories coming to light?
No, I keep hearing a lot about Antarctica.
There's nothing I can really nail down, but it's certainly very busy down there, and rumored of a huge alien base, and so it's very interesting about what's going on now.
This flat Earth nonsense, I do not know what that's all about.
Obviously, the Earth is not flat, and But there seems to be a big push on proving that, and I just don't understand what it's all about.
Yeah, it is quite perplexing, but they have some interesting points to make when they're looking at the horizon, which I think is quite strange.
I can't account for it myself, but I would like to say that, look, you're a pilot.
You've been up above the Earth.
I'm not even up above the Earth.
if I've been around the world ten times at least ten times and I hold the round the world speed regularly in the Learjet so you know that's good to know you know I certainly would agree with you.
What about what's going on in terms of our space program and what seems to be sort of a disclosure effort?
I suppose you haven't seen my latest interview that I did with Robert Steele.
He's sort of a right-wing pundit who's putting together some kind of a party or an effort with Cynthia McKinney.
She's from the left, he's from the right, and they're actually trying to do voter reform and things like that.
I don't know if you followed that kind of thing at all, but what do you think?
I'll try to see the new effort.
You know, the last couple days I had both John Walson and Gridkeeper and a couple others at the house here.
We had a lot of fun.
We exchanged Information.
We looked at John Walson's videos on YouTube.
He has some fantastic stuff that he's taken on the moon.
My Celestron 8 telescope has been out for about 10 years and he had a friend who fixed it in 10 minutes.
Oh my goodness!
That's awesome!
Not only that, but he gave me a brand new A very powerful telescope with a laptop guidance system.
It's been cloudy in Vegas for the last week, but it should be clearing up in the next few days, and I expect to see some fantastic stuff.
Now, the stuff that John Walsh has been photographing, huge structures out there in orbit around the Earth.
And obviously weapons of mass destruction, and it's my own personal opinion that what John is taking videos of was the same weapons that destroyed World Trade Center 1, 2, and 7.
There's no doubt that they were destroyed from space.
The stuff about the airplanes is sheer nonsense.
No airplanes crashed.
Recently on one of the In the videos or get-togethers on the web, there was a story about a CIA agent dying and he said that he destroyed Building Number 7 with explosives.
That's totally impossible.
It could not be done.
It was not done.
It's just another CIA nonsensical story trying to put the blame on explosives of Regular explosives that did not happen.
What they want to keep secret is the fact that it was done from outer space and these orbiting weapons that they have out there.
Now, the first time they tried it was Oklahoma City, and they tried it at half-hour, and that's why they found, after the building disintegrated, they found explosives taped to the columns there.
And then when they did the World Trade Center 1 and 2, they used it at full power.
And what it did was it completely destroyed the makeup, molecular makeup, of structure of steel and concrete and reduced it down to 80 microns in size of dust.
And that was all the dust that came up and down Manhattan.
And it was just steel and concrete turned to sheer dust.
Now, what happens, what they didn't realize is when they started to rebuild on the footprint of the original World Trade Centers 1 and 2, Deutsche Bank was the first one they started to put up.
And as soon as they put it up, it went disintegrate.
So what happened was the effect of the weapon that they had fired, even though they were no longer firing it, the effects were still manifesting themselves.
So what happened is they couldn't build in the footprint.
They had to put a reflecting pool there.
To cover up the effects of what was going on, and they told the public that it was just a reflecting pool in honor of those that were killed.
Integration of World Trade Center 1 and 2, but the reflecting pools are just covering up the effect that's still going on.
And they had to build around the reflecting pools so that the structures would still remain standing.
Okay, so you're saying the reflecting pools had another purpose?
Yeah, the purpose of the pools was to hide the effects of the weapon that they had fired that the effects were still going on.
Oh, fascinating.
Okay, well, that's very interesting.
I did hear about that whistleblower who supposedly was on his deathbed.
What about the notion that he would have been hired to, you know, in other words, that he wasn't lying necessarily?
We have heard stories they were rigging in advance with explosives.
That doesn't mean that the explosives were what he was used, but maybe the explosives were a backup plan of some kind.
What do you think?
The explosives were just to give credence that the whole thing was done by explosives, but it wasn't.
Okay, I hear you.
Yeah, very good.
So they were, as always, creating more than one story to go out there so that people would be...
Absolutely, and I just want to say that, you know, the World Trade Center wanted to...
The two airplanes that crashed into there, I think there was the 7 million parts that made up those airplanes, and not one single part was ever found.
Not one single part was ever found that belonged to an airplane in the wreckage of World Trade Center 1, 2, or 7.
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, being a pilot the way you are and were and, you know, really a famous pilot at that, I have to say that I'm not sure why people would even hesitate to believe your story the way you, you know, you can tell how these planes were not actually real planes.
Do you think there were holograms?
There was also Chanksville.
One interesting story about Chanksville They claimed there was an airplane there, but what they didn't know, the perpetrators didn't know, is there's an instrument in airplanes called the ACARS, and what that does is that transmits information about what's going on in the airplane on a minute-to-minute basis,
and it includes the speed of the engines, the altitude of the airplane, where the airplane is, And it's nothing that the pilot can turn off.
It's internally within the airplane, and it transmits to satellites, which then transmits to, for instance, the engine maker, whether it's GE or Rolls-Royce, and the airplane manufacturer, whether it's Airbus or Boeing, and it transmits all this information.
In the case of Shanksville, That information of the eight cars was still being transmitted for hours after it supposedly crashed at Jamesville.
Excellent.
Okay.
You know, I think very, very good point.
You know, we have a whistleblower, Arthur Neumann, who talked about the fact that the planes were...
We're holograms.
And I know you've talked about that.
You also were in contact with, before he sort of disappeared really, Norm Bergram.
Isn't that right?
Absolutely.
And Norm was the one that confirmed my suspicion that they were holograms.
Because he had seen one on his work driving down the Bayshore Freeway there in San Francisco to go to work for Long Gate.
He saw a hologram the size of a Boeing 747 just floating about 200 feet above the freeway.
Right.
I remember when I went and saw him, he told me that story, and it's really an amazing story.
And it basically vanished right in front of him.
Isn't that right?
Yeah, I'm glad that he told you that story.
Yeah, he did.
He absolutely did.
Fascinating guy.
Brilliant guy, really.
What do you think about his book, The Ringmakers of Saturn?
It's fantastic.
I've been pushing that book for many years.
You know, the size of the ET craft in the rings of Saturn is unbelievable.
I think one of the craft is 30,000 miles long and 2,400 miles in diameter.
We're talking about a fairly large spaceship.
No doubt about it.
You know, he actually told us, and this has been a few years now, and he's actually disappeared.
Supposedly they were building him a lab, some people from a Black Project area, and he basically disappeared after that.
that so I assume they took him underground again into a base and they're not letting him go public and I hope he's okay he was in great spirits and great energy when when I interviewed him a few years ago but he did say that he thought those some of those ships were on the way to earth at that point so have you ever heard his side of that story no I didn't hear him say that those ships were on their way to earth
It's possible, but, you know, Earth is just a place We're those of us who've made a mistake in our past lives and we've all, Gary, lived hundreds of lives.
We're here because we somehow screwed up in our past life and we're down here to rectify that and the way we're supposed to rectify it is to live our lives with integrity without envy, hate, or greed and to express our love To our families each and every day.
It doesn't matter how much money we make, how successful we are, or any of that.
It's just living our lives with integrity.
Okay, well, I certainly subscribe to that notion.
So, as far as what's going on with building, you know, a base on the Moon and Mars and this recent announcement, I don't know if you heard that Pence went public saying they were going to build a, you know, a space force to patrol the solar system.
Well, as our whistleblowers have told us, we already have that.
It's called Solar Warden.
You know anything about that?
Yes, they supposedly have some space operations going on, but it's not without the help of ET. It's nothing we could do on our own.
The Van Allen Belt was put there specifically to keep us from going either to the Moon or Mars or any place out of the Earth's lower orbit.
Until the ET says that we're ready to do that.
So if we're doing something out there, it's with the help and the limitations that ET has put on us.
Okay.
You know Clark McClelland, isn't that right?
Absolutely, sure.
Yeah, and he worked for the Apollo program, as you may know, and has quite a background.
He has a story about, for example, I think he called in Kecksburg, the...
The bell that he thinks the craft that actually fell was a bell.
I'm not sure.
It was sort of a time.
It sounded like it was a kind of a time travel story in which the bell sort of emerged there and the military had to go in and cordon off the area.
Did you ever hear him tell that story?
No, I didn't hear him tell that story, but Clark has given me a lot of Uh, information, uh, specifically, uh, he gave me the name of the fourth person killed in the Apollo 1 accident with, uh, Grissom, White, and Jaffe.
Uh, there was a, uh, usually, uh, uh, Shay, Joe Shay was, uh, there, the, uh, the Apollo program, uh, as an extra, uh, person in the cockpit to work out the problems of Apollo 1.
But Jay had to go to New York on that one day.
That was January 27, 1967.
And in his place, they put a team member of the Secret Astronaut Corps.
And of course, he didn't know that they were going to kill Grissom.
They had to kill him because he was so outspoken.
He was saying things like, this thing ain't going to the moon in two years.
This thing ain't going to the moon in ten years.
So they had...
Now, people say there's no way they could fit a fourth person in the cockpit.
Well, certainly they could.
What he did is they lie down on the instrument panel with their feet into the place where the alleged moon rocks were supposed to go.
But anyway, there's 45 minutes been accounted for after The fire that killed everybody and those secret 45 minutes are what they had the time they took to get the secret astronaut out of there without anybody knowing about it.
Because if they'd have found, if the regular NASA people had gone in there and found the fourth body, they would ask, was it?
How did he get there?
Where was he from?
Nobody ever heard about him so they had to dispose of that body without anybody finding out about it.
And it's just odd.
Today I got in the mail a copy of Murder on Pad 34 and by Eric Berghaus and what the price of the book is now even the used library editions Oh,
fascinating.
Okay, well that sounds great.
I wish the guy would make a Kindle version of his book.
That way he could sell it for a more reasonable price.
Yeah, its publication date was 1968.
Okay.
Well, very interesting.
I want to say that Clark McClelland also talked about seeing what are, in essence, what appear to be Anunnaki in the space station directing our astronauts.
Do you remember that footage?
Yes.
Yeah, I remember him telling me about that.
Clark is the one that gave me the name Of the fourth astronaut, which I kept secret now for, I think it's been at least 20 years ago, he told me.
The reason I'm not saying that name is if anybody has any information, they would have to come up with that name for me to believe that what they said was true.
Okay.
All right.
So that, you know, that's the challenge.
And you've got that also on our last interview.
So it's out there again now here on this live telephone network.
conversation that we're having.
In terms of the Anunnaki, there are some really interesting disclosures.
There was a journalist, an Israeli journalist, who I interviewed.
Let's see if I can remember his name.
His name is not coming to mind.
You might know who I mean.
He's quite an older guy.
He actually I think he died just recently, and I hope of natural causes, though that can't be guaranteed.
Shamish, Barry Shamish, I think is his name.
Yeah, I know who you're talking about.
I was in touch with him.
The Ananuki are given a lot more credit for doing stuff than they deserve.
Lou Baldwin has a few things to say about the Ananuki.
Alright, well did you ever hear Barry Shamish talk about what he called the Anunnaki who actually, and that's just sort of a slang term for a certain race of beings that are very tall who were also involved with Egypt and before that as well,
who did come from the planet Nibiru and Apparently, they were walking around Israel, and housewives were coming up with stories about them.
It was a very strange story, but as a journalist, he felt compelled, even though he didn't believe it, to investigate it.
So he wrote a book about it.
That's interesting.
I'll get to it, because I'd like to hear what he has to say.
The Pyramids...
Um, were obviously not built by man.
They were built by ET and they were, uh, used, uh, they functioned with the natural vivations of the earth, uh, to create power.
And there's familiar with the, uh, pyramids around Egypt, but there's more all around the world.
Uh, some of them are covered up with forests or sand or mountains.
Uh, but some of them, uh, Are really visible.
The whole Appalachian mountains, the trail there, there's hundreds of those pyramids along that area.
But they're finding more and more.
They're finding some down in South America that I've seen and, of course, under the sea in Japan.
They're all over the place, but they were part of a power system that has now been completely deactivated.
Right.
Well, and that is a very interesting point.
I have interviewed a lot of people about the different pyramids all over the place.
I'm wondering whether or not you ever heard that old story about the Egyptian relics that were found in the Grand Canyon.
Did you ever investigate that?
Absolutely.
And John, who's the person that investigates the cryptologist?
He lives in Mariposa.
Do you remember his name, John?
I don't know how I could forget it.
But anyway, he actually went with a friend of his over at the edge of the cliff.
The place where that tunnel is, that cave, it goes 40 miles into the earth, and it was found by the Smithsonian A researcher who was floating down the Colorado River in the early 1900s, 1907.
And he found this opening, explored it.
When he got to Kingman, Arizona, he told the newspaper about it.
And then, ever since then, it's been covered up.
There's a guard, a 24-hour guard there.
I tried to fly over it, but they have a specific airplane It's an area where you cannot fly lower than 3,000 feet, so you can't get pictures.
But where the cave is, is where the Little Colorado River meets the main Colorado River.
And it's just up on the side of the face of the cliff there, about 200 feet up.
And John, I'm trying to remember his last name, explored that area, tried to go over there with climbing equipment.
But the person he was with had some kind of, something was sickness that he had.
I'm trying to remember that.
My mind is going.
Anyway, they had to be rescued.
And the rescuers, when they got to him, they said, we don't want to ever see you back here again.
So I was going to try and make an effort with John to go back, but never got to it.
Yeah, very interesting.
Well, a while ago, some people tried to interview me about that subject, which is kind of strange because, you know, I don't have a lot of information about it, but I had heard stories like everyone does.
But it was quite an interesting interview, and I had a feeling that the CIA was heavily involved in that interview with me.
And it appears they still have a great deal of interest in that particular story, and that would mean that it probably is true.
There probably is some substance to it.
I know that Hoagland always talked about the Phoenix area as being sort of a little Egypt, and that basically the tops of the mountains were what we were seeing when you look at those sort of low...
Sort of hill-type mountains in that area of Phoenix, and that whole area, that whole basin is filled with landfill that came out, I guess, from the rivers that covered up the civilization, the evidence of the civilization.
Had you heard about that area?
Well, absolutely.
You know, Kerry, there's been at least a hundred civilizations on Earth that are far more advanced than we are now.
And when they are done, when the EPs are done with whatever they wanted to do with the civilization, they completely cover it up.
The Sahara Desert is over a huge civilization.
And they cover it up, and then they start over again.
But there's been at least 100 different civilizations that have done that.
The Earth is not 4.5 billion years old.
It's at least 13 billion years old.
And Lew Baldwin has a lot to say about that.
Very, very interesting.
All right.
That's why they find stuff.
Most of the stuff that they have found that belongs to old civilizations that have been covered up are kept secret in places like the Smithsonian Institution has a complete building Have you ever heard Hugh Newman and Jim Vieira wrote a book about giants?
I don't know if you happen to come across that.
I interviewed them about their book.
They came to America and did a lot of investigation about the stories everywhere.
And it's really all over the earth of these incredibly giant beings.
Some of them, I guess, 24...
Feet tall, if I understand it, and taller.
36 feet tall.
Right.
36 feet tall are the tallest ones.
I have a list and drawings of the beings from our size, 5 to 6 feet, up to 36 feet tall.
Exactly.
Right.
So anyway, they found that the Smithsonian was instrumental in hiding these giants from the public.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a fascinating story, the sort of history of the secrecy.
What about what goes on right now at UFO conferences and stuff?
I get the feeling there's a lot of disinfo out there.
What do you think?
Probably, you know, the MUFON conference has been going on here in Las Vegas, and what I can't believe is the ticket was something like $360.
Who has $360 to go to a MUFON conference to hear the same old stuff over and over and over?
Well, it is very interesting to me, you know, because I see that this information being sort of recycled through various parties.
I also have evidence that MUFON, of course, was run by the CIA anyway, so...
You know, and these are people that are instrumental in the cover-up.
Although Robert Steele, again, recently came out talking about Mars and children that were being shipped to Mars.
He said there's 10,000 people on Mars that will never come back.
He had a very high-level official title in the CIA for many years.
And then he went over to Marine Intelligence and also worked there.
So he's got quite a resume.
It's hard to...
He went on Alex Jones and said that, and Alex really didn't know how to handle it.
It was kind of interesting.
So, you know, disclosure.
This is disclosure.
This is a kind of disclosure, if you want it.
Yeah.
I wanted to mention that Bigfoot and Sasquatch and all of those...
Things out there are from Mars.
Now what we see are they have costumes and that's not what they really look like.
But those people are from Mars and there's still a huge civilization on Mars like there is every place else.
Venus, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune.
I mean, all of those places have civilizations.
The Moon, I've talked about quite a bit.
I estimate has one quarter of a million people living up there.
Howard Menger went there in 1956, was there for two weeks, and became there.
Like many people, were brought up by the humans that live there.
Now, they're not from Earth.
They're from someplace else.
But they invite people, scientists and other people up there, to see what's going on.
Howard Menger happened to be one of them, and he was entertained, and when he got back, he became confident to the Pentagon, and they knew a lot about what was going on.
Now, of course, we know now that the Moon The Apollo missions were total fabrication.
One of the reasons that we know for sure is all the pictures show the space daytime color of the sky being black.
It's not black.
It's a saffron yellow.
And on my website, thelivingmoon.com, we have a picture of the moon of Copernicus, and we made the sky the exact color We wrote to Howard Menger.
He died about a few years ago, but before he passed away, I sent him six colored swatches of saffron yellow, different ones, and had him pick the one that was closest to the daytime sky color, which he did, and then we put that color on the sky of the shot of Copernicus that I have, and that's on thelivingmoon.com.
But of all the pictures that NASA shows us of the alleged astronauts on the moon, can't be on the moon because the sky is black.
They put the sky as black and it's not.
It's saffron yellow.
So just another adding information to the total fraud that the Apollo missions were.
Well, that's, yeah, there is something up with that for sure, I have to say, although my information varies a bit more from yours, but I think we're on a similar track with that.
Jay Widener, of course, has done an incredible amount of work and has written a couple books.
I think he's right in the middle of a book.
He's going to reveal something about, you know, the guy who filmed the moon, that sort of fake moon movie.
His name is escaping, you know, the filmmaker, famous filmmaker, Kramer.
Is it Stanley Kramer?
Stanley Kubrick.
Yeah, Kubrick.
Jay Widener was here at my house for a day last year, and we discussed this at great length.
Okay, very good.
Well, it's going to be fascinating to read Jay's book.
Now, did you see that basically, I guess Jay Widener was involved in with Jaime Masson in some supposed aliens they found down in Peru.
Have you heard that story?
No.
Oh, you haven't?
Okay.
Well, that's a pretty interesting story.
They supposedly found some Very tall beings with what are called the long heads.
However, they have hands that look like gray aliens, so they're kind of a weird combination in my view.
But they claim that the scientists, they're trying to get DNA and all this kind of thing to prove that...
Look, they're obviously not human, because take one look at their hands and you can see that.
Whether they're real or whether they're a composite being, whether it's a hoax or what the situation is, so far they...
They think they're using a scientific method to investigate it.
GYMTV, I think, is paying for it all.
We'll have to see what happens with it, but there have been several very large skeletons, apparently, as well as children found somewhere in the area of Peru, and this is a recent find.
Interesting.
Yeah, it is a three-fingered hand, a very, very gray alien-looking.
But the head is, you know, and body shape, I guess, is humanoid.
But the head is, again, this elongated, what we consider, again, to be the Anunnaki type of skull, which there have been many found.
Brian Forster has a whole museum full of them.
And I know about them being in Malta and other places on Earth as well.
Yes, absolutely.
Absolutely.
So, have you been in touch with, I guess it would be Buzz Aldrin, with regard to the statements he made about Antarctica?
No, I haven't.
I haven't seen Buzz for 20 years.
The last time I saw him was at the award ceremony for the Aviation Week in Space Technology I had a picture taken with Buzz.
We didn't talk at all, but no, I haven't talked to him about Antarctica.
Okay.
Yeah, there seemed to be quite a cover-up going on after he made a statement.
He was down there and apparently had to be shipped out because of some kind of injury.
The jury is still out on what kind of injury that really was, or even if it was an injury.
Yeah, I heard about that.
Yeah, so I'm not sure.
Do you think that Buzz Aldrin would have a reason to lie about what he really came across in Antarctica?
Would he be coerced to lie?
I don't know.
I try to follow the stories of what he keeps saying about the moon, that whenever he talks about it, he feels nauseous.
And he's obviously the victim of some kind of mind control, as all of the astronauts were that allegedly went to the moon.
Mitchell was convinced he went there, and when he heard that I had said that, no, there's no possibility he went there, he says, well, you know, John's free to believe what he wants, but I think I was there.
That's just the effectiveness of the mind control.
Which came over under Operation Paperclip after World War II that the Germans had done.
Since then, they've made such fantastic strides.
Bob Lazar was a victim of that because when he worked up at S4, one of the reasons that he didn't want to continue working up there is the fact that he could remember getting on the Boeing 737 at McCarran Field in the morning And then his next memory was going down the steps of the Boeing 737 in the evening.
And all the things that he did during the day were completely wiped out of his mind.
And he didn't want to work in conditions like that.
He wanted to remember everything.
And that wasn't possible.
They have a way of everybody that gets on those airplanes that goes up to Groom Lake, as for any of those areas up there, that they're not allowed to remember what goes on up there and of course in the past three years they've taken the entire Nevada test site and made it the exact same regulations that Groom Lake has as far as when you go to work being weighed in and not
only fingerprints but eye prints and all kinds of stuff The whole area of Nevada test site is being projected now in that way.
Oh, fascinating.
Well, you know, I wondered if you had a thought about Roswell, because recently I heard there was another organization might be trying to do another show or investigation about it.
I read a book that was supposedly trying to debunk it, which did a terrible job, let me tell you.
And that you could see holes in that person's analysis and research all over the place.
Do you have any thoughts about Roswell?
Just that Roswell was the fourth or fifth recovery of a flying saucer.
One of the earlier ones was back in 1939, and that was the one in Missouri.
But there have been others.
There was one over that recovered in England and brought back life to the wing of the V-17.
And so when Roswell came along, they were ready.
They knew exactly what was going on.
And that's why they were able to so effectively cover it up and recover all of the bits and pieces.
Everybody knew That was involved in covering up Roswell.
Everybody knew what their specific job was and how it had to be performed.
This was not the case of all of a sudden the alien spacecraft lands and they're wondering what to do.
They knew exactly what to do.
Okay, well that's an interesting take on it.
What about the witnesses who somehow have Kind of, you know, disappeared, changed their stories, etc., etc.
I'm sure mind control must be entered in here.
Do you think there was some fabrication over there?
Yes.
To what extent?
I don't know.
But Mac Brazel, you know, he was specific when they finally let him out after keeping him for a week.
He said, by God, if I ever see anything like that again, I won't mention anything about it.
So he was pretty irritated about the whole cover-up.
Right.
Fascinating.
Wow.
Well, you know, there are so many stories that we could just sit here all day and go over.
Is there anything you, you know, while I've got you on the line here, and I don't want to tax your strength too much, It's great that you spent some time with us here.
I know people are going to be fascinated by what you've been saying.
Is there anything else that you might want to touch on while we've got you here?
Just the fact that people keep asking about Malaysian 370, and I've told this story many times, and just recently they had another fake Funeral, or not funeral, but some kind of a ceremony for the alleged victims of MH17, which never occurred.
It never took off.
370 was flown to Israel.
It was outfitted with Controls that could be operated by two fighter jets operating with the actual airplane.
And what they did is they had killed all the passengers on board, they did all the electronics, put it in, and then they took off from Israel, flew up, and And flew into the legend path of MH17 and flew east until they got into the area
controlled by Israel.
And the airplanes that are flying along it shot it down.
It crashed, and when the first rescues got there, the first doctors, they said that the people on board had been dead for at least three weeks.
So that was 370, and they were trying to make people believe it was MH17. And they have these fake...
Funerals and fake ceremonies of people that allegedly were on MH17, but it did not happen.
That fight did not occur.
The people that you see are hired actors to pretend that they were the families of the people who were allegedly killed on MH17. M817, but there was no M817. All right.
Well, I heard the story about the dead bodies.
I heard that it was headed towards supposed to be, I think, St.
Petersburg or Moscow, and that it was shot down.
It was headed to basically be sort of an impact in Russia, and the Putins shot it down.
No, it was shot down by the people who outfitted it with the specific fly-by-wire controls.
Israel did that, and it was their airplanes that shot it down.
And they wanted to be in this specific area that was Zionist-controlled area of that...
Of the Ukraine?
Is that the Ukraine you're talking about?
Absolutely, that's the word I'm looking for.
The Zionist-controlled part of Ukraine.
And the fighter jets that were directing it were the ones that shot it down.
Well, what about Diego Garcia?
Are you familiar with that base?
Absolutely.
A friend of mine was the head of that base, and he was there running it during this disappearance of the 370.
He says he didn't see it, but he said it's always possible that it could have come in and been refueled and taken off and Continued on towards Israel.
So, you know, that is possible.
Okay.
So nowadays, do you have people coming out of the woodwork who give you stories, insider information, and that sort of thing?
No.
The last one I had was a guy who was in the...
worked for NASA in the scientific...
scientific...
Area of the Apollo 1, and he wrote, right when I was there, a 21-page document of how they fake all of the tests to make it possible to continue on with Apollo 1.
He said nothing was working and we were directed to continue it anyway.
And I have this document that he wrote while I was there.
He said, this is whistleblower.
He said, I'm telling you.
He said, this is what happened.
And the reason I'm doing this is I could be living much longer.
And I want somebody like you to have this information.
Fascinating.
Okay.
You know, we are probably going to wind it up with John because I don't want to tire him out too much, everyone, but we have an audience here, a live audience, and they're in the chat as well, so I'm encouraging them to ask you some questions.
Here's your chance to ask John Lear a question.
We are live, and this is your big chance.
So if you have a question, please put it in all caps.
And I will ask John if he knows anything about him, whatever it is.
So let's see.
Somebody has a question here.
RH negative blood.
Do you have any thoughts or information about that, John?
No, I don't know too much about that.
All right.
Before we go to another question in the chat, I want to ask you about that.
I think it was your, I don't know, he's maybe your grandchild.
You told a fascinating story about him having an encounter with a spider being, well, it sounded kind of like a mantis spider, not sure.
Have you heard anything else from your grandchildren along these lines or the same kid?
Has he told you anything new about that?
No, that one story, let's not get that mixed up.
The spiders that are at Bentwaters, they're the ones that are six feet in diameter and have intelligence far beyond what we have, and apparently they've been there since the Bentwaters incident in 1980 and before.
Now, the The being that Damien, my grandson, saw, he was abducted and taken to the moon.
He was taken out of his treehouse in the backyard in the afternoon, taken to the moon, and there was a surgeon that worked on him and then brought him back.
The whole incident only lasted 45 minutes, which included the trip to the moon and the surgery, whatever they did.
And when he came into my den, he said, Grandpa, I just went to the moon.
And I talked to him about it and I said, well, how do you know specifically it was the moon?
He said, well, I just got that impression.
He said, I woke up and I was on a kind of a gurney, a silver colored thing, and there was a doctor, a surgeon working on me.
And I said, what did he look like?
And he said, it's hard to describe.
Let me draw it.
And he drew...
A picture of a praying mantis type being.
And I have that in a frame on my wall.
It's also probably on the livingmoon.com, but it's the typical praying mantis pictures.
When we were at your place a couple months ago, that is on our interview with you.
That photo, we took a picture of it.
So people can see it if you watch.
Yeah, I forgot about that, Gary, so you can add that, please.
Yes, we do.
It did look like a little bit between a cross.
I thought it was kind of like a cross between a mantis and a spider being, but whatever you say.
Listen, Bentwater's spiders, Miles Johnston recently told me that he had heard there were a lot of spider beings up in the Lake District, apparently.
I had not heard there was spiders in Bentwaters, though.
Where did you hear that?
From Miles.
Miles and I keep in touch.
All right.
Okay, that's very interesting.
So we'll have to look into the Bentwater people that were, you know, the witnesses and whatnot and see if there was anybody there that recalls anything even remotely similar to that because that would be really interesting.
I haven't heard it, but it would be interesting to find out.
It certainly would.
You know, we did share that story about Vietnam with you that I got from one of my witnesses.
And since then, I did a live show with a person who's been regressed who believes that he did see some spider beings in Vietnam.
So that investigation is ongoing.
We're still trying to find more evidence, basically.
Okay, great.
I'm really interested in it.
Yeah, absolutely.
So let me see some other questions here.
Someone wants to know, is the current state of bluebeam?
What do you have thoughts about that?
Of what?
You know, Project Bluebeam, where they wanted to fake an alien...
I don't think they have to fake an alien invasion.
I think it's already happened, but what do you think?
Anything to do with a fake alien invasion?
No, I don't know.
If there is a fake alien invasion, of course it's fake, but there can't be an invasion because they were the ones that made it.
And they were the ones that...
You know, the supposed Nibiru and the asteroid collisions and the end of times, none of that is going to happen.
ET is taking care of us.
And I don't know what their plan is, but if you could, if there was a switch and you could turn and make visible every flying saucer that's in the sky now, the sky would be black.
Billions of them going on all the time, doing abductions all the time.
And I don't know what their plan is.
I don't know what the plan is.
But there is going to be no invasion and there's going to be no collision and all that end of times BS. All right.
Listen, you know, we know John Walson.
In fact, we did a sky watch with him at my conference just recently.
Wonderful guy.
Actually wanted to ask you, did you guys do, with the telescopes that he had on hand or the one he fixed for you, did you guys do a sky watch over your house and did you see anything unusual?
We would have loved to, but it was cloudy and rainy the whole time he was here.
Can you imagine that?
Yeah, okay, that's a drag.
Yeah, too bad.
Well, we had some clear sky when he came out to our conference when I was in England, actually in June, and we did get some craft on camera.
Of course, they were far away.
You know, it really has to do with his setting on his telescope.
He's I basically believe that he's been told he cannot show what he's capable of showing beyond what he already put on the internet.
So that's kind of the state of affairs with what he does.
But he's got some fabulous pictures.
Absolutely.
Let me see if there's anything else.
Some people, I guess you kind of answered the question.
You don't believe there's any planetoid or planet X or any kind of...
New bodies in our solar system, is that right?
No, our solar system has 40 planets, not nine, as NASA said, there's 40 planets, and each one of those planets has one or more moons, and what we call the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter was the planet man, M.A.F., Lou Baldwin wrote a book about it.
It was a planet one and a half times as big as Earth.
It had 110 billion people on there.
It lasted for millions and millions of years.
It was a product that ET had made.
It had fantastic buildings, structures, all kinds of stuff.
And for some reason, ET didn't want it around.
And I'm talking about ET, the reptilians.
What's the other one?
Not the reptilians.
There's another ET that's above the reptilians.
They didn't want it around.
It didn't fit into the plan.
So one day they decided to destroy it and it took one and a half seconds to completely destroy the planet one and a half times as big as Earth and the 110 billion people that were on it.
And what's left was the asteroid belt and there's been It's raining down from the asteroid belt for hundreds of millions of years and will continue to keep raining down.
Okay, yeah, that's very interesting.
My information, I think, was called Tiamat, according to what I have heard.
There's another version that talks about the planet Tara and so on.
So what about, let's see, the sources for Baldwin's information?
Balden was born and grew up in his first five to ten years of life in Italy.
His father was in the US Army.
He was starting to be picked up as early as five years old and taken to different parts of the galaxy.
He was given information over the 55 years of his life of what's going on.
He's seen So much stuff.
And he writes so clearly about the things that he's seen and what he believes.
And every once in a while he'll receive what he calls an information dump.
And he'll take notes on it and eventually get around to writing a book on it.
And people ask me, why do you believe Lou Baldwin?
I believe him because It's so incredible.
When he first started posting on Above.Secret.com, I read the first 20 pages and I said, this is real.
This guy knows what he's talking about.
I've got to meet this guy.
And, of course, we've been friends ever since then.
Yes, I believe in look, line, and sinker.
Could he be wrong?
Possible, but I don't.
But I believe him.
And that's all I can say.
Sure.
I believe.
All right, fair enough.
I want to ask you, well, someone here is asking you about CERN building a collider that's three times bigger.
Do you know anything about that and have any thoughts on it?
Yes, CERN was built to define the hand runs.
There's no such thing.
When they tried to fire it up here a couple years ago, E.T. was the one that shut it down because it could have possibly destroyed Earth.
They don't know what they're doing, the people there at CERN, and E.T. is keeping a close watch, trying to keep them from hurting themselves.
Okay, so there's all kinds of E.T. beings out there.
Have you ever seen one?
I probably have, but I wouldn't know.
All right.
Let's see.
I'm trying to see if there's anything else here that we can ask you.
You know, if you want to call any time, Carrie, that's fine.
You know, just, you know, I'm here all the time, so if you have some questions or a free time or whatever, just give me a call and we'll do it.
Okay, well, that sounds great.
You know, it's great to talk to you, and it's a joy as always, and I know people love it.
We've got an audience up here.
It's been growing the whole time we've been on the phone.
So people just love to hear from you.
You don't have to schedule it.
Just go up and say, hey, John, you've got a couple minutes.
We're going to do a show.
All right.
Well, we'll do that.
We'll take you up on that.
So I'll let you go.
I don't want to tax your energy here.
I want to make sure you stay healthy.
And I just want to say to people that if...
If you are willing to help John out, I've got on my website a link.
His email and the link to donate are the same.
So it's JohnLear at Cox.net, C-O-X.net, correct?
That's correct.
And, you know, even a dollar or two would help.
All right.
All right.
Well, it's just great to talk to you.
And thanks so much for coming on the show.
Thanks, everyone, for watching.
Anytime, Terry.
And you caught me at a good time here.
Happy to feel the best I've felt in many weeks.
I don't know why, but maybe you're giving me a little energy.
Excellent.
All right.
Well, let's continue to do it.
The healer's out there.
Send John some good energy.
Let's keep him around.
Let's give some energy to his wife, Marilee, lovely person, and keep him around.
And, by the way, with your new telescope...
If you see anything, you get some good footage, call us up and let us know, and we'll try to broadcast it.
Okay, Terry.
All right?
Okay, take care, all right?
Okay, my best to all.
All right.
Great.
That's just fabulous.
So, you know, that's John Lear and talking about really asking him all sorts of questions and having a wonderful time to be able to talk to him.
He's been having a hard time.
People did step up and send him donations, but he's definitely behind the eight ball.
They doubled his mortgage and someone is trying to work on that.
I know to help him out, but I'm going to put this poster on this banner here so you can see where to donate.
He also, I do have a, if you want to wire money, I do have a bank account so I can forward your, send an email really directly to John and he can give you his bank account information and so on.
So, by the way, I did let George Green know about John's situation.
George said he would try to To get in touch with John in the next few days.
So maybe that will happen as well.
But thank you everyone for listening and watching.
We do have a potential show later today with Keith Hunter who has some new information about some tests over in North Korea that he's been predicting and apparently one of his predictions was accurate and he's going to try to inform us about that.
So if I get a chance and we can bring them on today, we'll do that.
If not, it might be tomorrow or later in the week.
So thanks for watching, as always, and take care.
And do take some time to watch my interview.
I was interviewed recently, as everyone knows, by Robert Steele.
It was prearranged that he would time me and my answers.
He wanted to make it sort of an executive summary of For Project Camelot and also for himself so that he could send people over and get information.
He has been approached by a lot of the people in the sector who wanted him to interview them, apparently.
They were quite worked up over that, but I can tell you that he has decided not to do that Because he wants to focus on this voter sort of reform situation.
But I do want to say that my interview with him, or actually his interview with me, has been banned in a couple countries, apparently.
I found that out on my YouTube channel when I tried to move it from one spot to another.
this message came up and said, I'm sure you want to move it into this particular area of your YouTube channel because it has been banned in some countries was, was what they said.
So it's fascinating that I would say something that other countries do not want out there.
So encourage you to watch that if you haven't already.
And, and, and it seems to be getting some good reviews.
Look, we not, We may not agree with each other out there.
Robert Steele happened to respond to me and my interview with him.
I had interviewed him first and I had no control over who he or whether he interviewed someone else or not.
So don't think that I tried to persuade him not to interview people.
That's actually not true.
So I just want to say that it's his call and he decided he wanted to do what he wanted to do.
Now he's on the road.
I think he and Cynthia McKinney are embarking on this hashtag UnRig, and you can go to his website to find out more about that.
It has to do with getting out the vote and a voter reform type of effort.
So he kind of wants to deal with that, but he has known some things about disclosure.
He did go on Alex Jones.
He has several statements that he made, even on my interview, about Mars and various...
He's quite well-read, apparently a very high-level, I guess, a reviewer for Amazon Books on top of his rather extensive background in intelligence.
And so it's worth investigating.
At any rate, I hope everyone has a good day and we'll try to get Keith Hunter on later today if that can work out.
So thanks for watching.
Take care.
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