JORDAN MAXWELL : ET CONNECTION TO SECRET SPACE & RELIGIONS
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Hi, everyone.
This is Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot, and I am here tonight with Jordan Maxwell.
He is a wonderful scholar and investigator, and we're going to look at a short bio for him.
It is available on my website if you want to go ahead and read over there.
He has a website called Jordan Maxwell show.com, I believe is the URL and we'll double check that, but it's on my site.
And I want to say that we're going to be talking about ETs and their influence on the secret space program, as well as religion.
So that's sort of the bucket topic for tonight, but we may jump around a bit.
I'm going to ask him a bit about the London bombings and we're going to also go into just a brief thing about the Freemasons and possibly even the, the Mormons because we had an interesting guest last night.
And I think people might like to hear Jordan's take on everything.
So Jordan, welcome to the show.
It's great to have you here.
Thank you, Carrie.
Always a pleasure to be with you, my dear friend.
We've been friends for many years.
Absolutely, and it's really been a delight to know you, and I'm very happy that we could get you back on the show.
Your audio sounds great.
You've got video as well, so I think our listeners and viewers are going to be very happy about that.
I want to read a bit of your bio this time.
It's a little more formal than usual, but I think it'd be worthwhile to So this is from his website.
Jordan Maxwell continues as a preeminent researcher and independent scholar in the field of the occult religious philosophy.
His interest in these subjects began as far back as 1959.
He served for three and a half years as the religion editor of Truth Seeker magazine, America's oldest free thought journal since 1873, it says here.
His work exploring the hidden foundations of Western religions and secret societies creates an enthusiastic response from audiences around the world.
He's conducted dozens of intensive seminars, hosted his own radio show talk, We'll talk to him about that a little more.
He's guested on 600 radio shows and written, produced, and appeared on numerous television shows.
and documentaries including two-hour specials for the CBS TV network as well as ancient mystery series and all of this is devoted to understanding ancient religions and their pervasive influence on world affairs today His work on the subject of secret societies ancient and modern and their symbols fascinates worldwide audiences and basically he is
looking today at the hidden religious agendas how they play out in our war-torn world he feels that controversial subjects are not only interesting but important not to ignore And he has multiple presentations, I believe DVDs, and he has a secret sort of a, I'm calling it secret, it's not so secret, but a research society that he's created as well.
And isn't that right, Jordan?
And it's actually great to have you here on the show again.
And what I want to say here is that what we'd like to launch off with, because I happen to have done a show earlier today.
It was with Ole Domogard and Michael Shrimpton.
And we were looking at the attacks in London.
Which is quite a suspect event.
I don't know if you followed it at all, but I wondered if you had any comments.
Well, for the last month, I really have not been concerned or interested to even hear any news.
I've been working on some really fascinating things, and I'm supposed to be at 76 years old, retired.
I find so many interesting and fascinating things going on in the world that people have no idea about at all.
And so the everyday news gets to be too much for me.
I'm just sick of hearing all of the lunacy that goes on in our world.
And so I'm kind of like a recluse now in that I don't really travel Very much, you know, to speak like I used to.
And I do a lot of radio.
I do maybe sometimes two and three radio shows a day.
And I'm very happy that I can do that.
And the technology exists where I can talk to people all over the world.
So that's a fun thing to do.
And I'm always happy to be on the show with you.
But I'm not really following the news of the day.
Very good very much anymore.
I don't really care to hear about it because I know that there are so many more and far more important things which are causing the news to happen.
Things which are being causing all of the chaos in the world today.
That's what I'm interested in.
The real root cause of things.
And so I know there's been some things happening in England.
I haven't followed up on it.
I've just heard bits and pieces of it.
So I really can't...
Actually, I really can't address too much about what's going on in the world today because I haven't been following it very well.
Well, let me ask you this.
Michael Shrimpton is a very interesting man.
I don't know if you know his work at all.
He's written a book called Spy Hunter.
And it's quite an interesting book and I've interviewed him now a number of times.
He is basically saying that the people who are planning these attacks go back To German intelligence services that were basically formulated before World War II, even earlier, even maybe closer to World War I,
and that it's kind of a continuation of what he calls the Abwehr, which I'm sure you're familiar with, and certainly a mixture of the Vatican Illuminati members as well as, we're talking, you know, P2 Lodge, Jesuits, And so on.
He says they have infiltrated the Mossad, they have infiltrated MI6, MI5, and the U.S. government substantially, and also the CIA and so on.
So he says they are orchestrating these attacks and that they were behind this latest one.
And I just wondered if you knew about this organization he talks about.
It's called DVD for short.
I can't pronounce the long name.
It's a German word.
I perhaps can try to find it for you if you need that, but I just wondered what you might think about that.
Bits and pieces of it.
I have gleaned bits and pieces, but I haven't really spent any time with it.
But if you have some information on that, it sounds interesting, maybe you could send me a link.
I'd like to look at it.
All right.
What I want to talk about today is something I think is absolutely astounding, that when I first heard it many years ago, and I've heard this about, I don't know, maybe 40 years ago, and ever since then, it plays in the back of my mind on On just about everything that happens.
It's a story, let me just tell you a story, a short story first.
It's a story about an ancient Greek man named Hesiod.
H-E-S-I-O-D. Hesiod.
Hesiod has a book that he wrote, and this is a very long time ago.
We're talking about 700 B.C. And the man's name was Hesiad and he wrote a book which became known today as the Theogony of Hesiad.
Spelled T-H-E-O-G-O-N-Y. Theogony of Hesiad.
And Hesiad tells us in the beginning of his book that he was an illiterate herdsman and that he was one night out with his flock overnight And he said three angels floated up to him.
They were glowing figures.
And they were what we would call angels.
But they weren't walking.
He said they floated up to him.
And they told him that they were muses.
The term that they called themselves, these three angels, they called themselves muses.
M-U-S-E-S. Muses, from which we get the word museum and music, amusement, from the word muses, which is interesting because we're into museums and music and amusement.
Well, the very basis for those words is the muses, three angel-like creatures that were glowing, that floated up from out of nowhere to this man, Hesiart.
700 BC, a long time ago.
And you can still get this book in any good bookstore.
You can order it today and get it usually in any big bookstore.
The Agony of Hesiart.
And these muses, or angels, telepathically talked to Hesiart.
And they told him that they wanted him to write a book And he told them that he was illiterate, couldn't read or write.
And they telepathically told him that was okay.
They wanted him to write the book and that they would telepathically, or what we would call automated writing, that they would put it into his mind and guide his hand as he writes the book that they want him to write.
And that's the book that became known as the Theogony.
Theogony, C-T-H-E-O, C-O-R-T-H-E, is God in Greek.
So Theogony was the story of God.
And this is important to remember, in Greek, the word God, or the word for God, is T-H-E-O. And so, they said that the That they telepathically wanted him to write a book, and they were going to tell him all about the gods in the universe, the pecking order, so to speak.
And so they told him that they would guide him through automated writing on the pecking order of the gods.
And so then they began to tell him that the god over our solar system They started with that.
They said, over your solar system, there is a god over you.
And his name is Zeus, spelled Z-E-U-S, Zeus.
And so this is going back to the ancient Grecian Empire.
And so the muses told Hesiod that Zeus was our god over this particular area in our galaxy.
The galaxy is very large and obviously must be other gods over other areas.
But over us, our god is Zeus.
And they said that Zeus lived on a floating city in the constellation of Cassiopeia.
That sounded strange to me.
A floating city in a star system called Cassiopeia?
Well, that alone, you know, opens a whole can of worms.
Now the Muses went on to tell Hesiod that if Zeus, who lived on a floating city in Cassiopeia, if Zeus were to walk out on his porch and drop an anvil from his front porch, it would take over nine days and nine nights and so many hours Before it would hit the Earth.
And so it was fairly easy to calculate that distance.
You find out how fast the thing will fall and multiply it by nine days and nine nights and how many hours.
And that will tell you about how far away Zeus's floating city is.
So it turns out to be about three million miles.
So according to Hesiod and the Three Muses, Zeus, Z-E-U-S, is the God over the earth.
So that when you hear people, especially Christians, praying, Our Father who art in heaven, well, that's what Zeus is supposed to be, is up there in heaven.
And so, like I said, if you say, Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, the name is Zeus.
And he lives about 3 million miles from Earth.
Okay.
Now, back in the 1930s, there was an American astronomer named Carl Jensky, spelled K-A-R-L Jensky, J-A-N-S-K-Y. Carl Jensky built the first radio telescope, and he won a Nobel Prize for it.
And he later on became known as the father of modern radio telescopes.
Then he, Karol Jansky, also built a radio transmitter so that he could beam signals out into the heavens.
And so about the 1930s, just to see what might happen, he transmitted a signal to Cassiopeia.
He could have been reading the Theography of Hesiod, possibly, which gave him the idea for Cassiopeia.
But in the 1930s, this American astronomer named Carl Jensky beamed a radio signal out to Cassiopeia, 14.3 megacycles.
And if you can believe it, He got back an intelligent signal that was amplified, and that's what really caught his attention.
It was amplified, and it was a very highly intelligent communication, but he couldn't read or understand what was being said.
But it was being amplified, so obviously somebody was sending back a message in response to his message.
So, Incidentally, when Karol Jansky died, all of his notes were immediately taken from his office by men who were wearing black suits and black glasses.
I should tell you something.
We've heard about the men in black.
Well, according to the history of Karol Jansky, when he died, it was said that men wearing black suits came into his home and his office and stole all of his paperwork.
Most of it.
But later on in 1940s, a Scottish astronomer named Duncan Lunan, Duncan Lunan, L-U-N-A-N. He had been working with Carl Jansky on the radio transmitter.
And he too started to send a signal out aimed at Cassiopeia, just to see what would happen, I suppose.
And he too got back a signal.
About 20 seconds later, both intelligent signal and amplified, and he didn't know what to make of it.
He was getting an intelligent signal coming back from Cassiopeia, and it was amplified.
So, in other words, it wasn't just a faint little signal that you're trying to understand.
No, it was very amplified.
So whoever was sending the signal had high equipment, highly Scientific equipment to send back an amplified signal from Cassiopeia.
So, Duncan Lunan's renowned signal, he started to narrow the signal down to a particular star or light in Cassiopeia.
And that particular star or light in Cassiopeia is today referred to As the Lunan object.
L-U-N-A-N object.
The Lunan object.
You can look it up on the web and see this light in Cassiopeia constellation from which scientists here in this country and around the world have been receiving intelligent signals.
And...
And...
Hesiart had said that Zeus lived in Cassiopeia.
Well, we're getting signals back from Cassiopeia from somebody, which alone and by itself is enough to make you wonder, what's going on with our space program?
Because there is no doubt in my mind that these Men in Black actually exist.
I've had too many one-on-one personal stories of people who have seen them.
And so, I totally am sure that these Men in Black do exist, and they're not human, as we think, as we would say.
Now, keep in mind that the word for God, as I said in Greek, is Theos, T-H-E-O-S, Theos.
This is why many Greek men have names like Theos.
The chief Theos are God.
In the ancient Greek world, they understood it to be Zeus.
He was God the Father.
Why God the Father?
He was the God the Father of all other gods.
Not over us, God the Father, as Christians would think.
But he was God the Father of all other gods around us.
So he would, of course, be our Father who art in Heaven.
Hallowed be thy name, Zeus.
When you say, Hallowed be thy name, our Father in Heaven, let's look at the word Father for a moment in relation to Zeus.
In the ancient Sanskrit, the word Father is Pitar, P-I-T-A-R. But in the Old Persian language, the word father is Pitta, P-I-T-A. So Sanskrit is P-I-T-A-R,
Old Persian is P-I-T-A. While in Greek and Latin, father is Pater, P-A-T-E-R. Pitta, Pitta.
I've heard that term many times, but I never realized Piter-pater is the name of Zeus, or the god over us, in different languages.
So the ancient word for god was piter, p-i-t-a-r, or pater, p-a-t-e-r.
Again, in ancient Greek, the father god was Zeus, and so he would refer to in Greek as Zeus-pater, god the father.
And in the Latin, he would become, not Zeus, but in Latin, Dios.
So instead of Greek, Z-E-U-S, in Latin, became D-E-U-S, Dios.
Dios is Zeus, or Zeus.
So the ancient Roman god, or Zeus, was called I-U, that's capital I-U, hyphen, Peta, P-E-T-E-R, I-U-Peta.
I's are also interchangeable with J's.
So, therefore, Zeus became J-U-Peter, or later to become Jupiter.
So it's J-U-Peter or Peter, P-E-T-E-R. Now, that opens up another kind of word, because in the Vatican, there is a statue, and you probably have seen it yourself, that there's a statue of one called the Apostle Peter.
The encyclopedias all over the world will tell you that that statue, which is called the Apostle Peter, is not Peter.
It's Pater.
Zeus Pater.
And so that statue that people are kissing the feet of in the Vatican, and the feet are almost wore off, if you've ever been to the Vatican and seen that statue, which I have, the feet are almost worn off of the statue because people have been kissing the feet of that statue thinking it was the Apostle Peter,
never realizing, no, it was Pater, Zeus Pater, God of of our world, the God over our universe and over our section of our universe.
So anyway, so the Roman Zeus becomes I.U. or J.U. Peter or J.U. Peter, okay?
So today, Christians and Christians all over the world, Catholics especially, are still on their knees praying to and going to the Vatican to kiss the feet of I.U. Peter or J.U. Peter.
Incidentally, there's a canal That's named in the Middle East to honor Zeus.
It's called the Suez Canal.
Suez is Zeus, spelled backwards.
Now, while we're on the subject, the Greek Zeus becomes Roman Jupiter, and another name for Jupiter in Latin was Jove, J-O-V-E. So when you hear someone say that God is love, No, it's not God is L-O-V-E. It is God is Jove.
J-O-V-E. Not love.
And I've often wondered about that when someone says God is love.
And I'm thinking, what does that mean?
Well, now I know what it means.
It's a mistranslation.
It's not L-O-V-E. It's J-O-V-E. Jove, which is Latin for Jupiter.
So...
The god Jupiter, incidentally, was said to appoint royalty and to protect them.
This was a very pronounced comment in the ancient Greek world that Zeus appointed individuals to be royalty and then protected them.
So today we have these lunatics and inbred, mentally disordered people roaming around the world who should be in hospitals, but they're calling themselves kings and queens and princes, and they all will tell you that they have a divine right to rule mankind.
Well, now you're talking about Zeus and the pagan god Zeus and giving the royalty the divine right.
And protection.
So anyway, he's the one who now chooses royalty but protects them and gives them a divine right for whatever that's worth.
So anyway, let's see.
God in Latin, as I said, is D-E-U-S, Dios.
And Dios in the Old Persian, in Old Persian, is D-V-A, D-A-I-V-A, which means an evil or demonic god.
So, now, by dictionary definition, that means that Christianity worldwide is worshipping an ancient demonic god named Zeus.
That might explain the history of wars and bloodshed and human slavery for thousands of years in the name of religion.
So, all of this tends to Open up for me an incredible field of research because if in point of fact these two scientists and many others that haven't spoken up have been receiving messages from a star system called Cassiopeia and it's very legitimate and amplified we just can't read it that implies that there's somebody out
there And the more I think about it, the less I want to badmouth Zeus, because if there actually is some entity, an EBE, as American scientists call them, EBEs are extraterrestrial biological entities, what we call ETs.
Well, there very well might be, because of the science behind what has happened, There very well might be extraterrestrials who are guiding the destiny of the human race from afar out.
So anyway, when you go back to the Greek god of the sky and the king of the gods, his name was Zeus.
And what is interesting is that connected to Zeus were some symbols.
One was lightning.
He has lightning in his hands and he was called the god of thunder.
and rain and lightning and so and so when the ancient peoples would hear the thunder and the lightning it frightened them and they could think of nothing else but it has to be Zeus uh come talking to them and incidentally in the book of job with the old jewish old testament of the jewish old testament in job 26 14 it says behold These are
but the outskirts of His ways, and how small a whisper do we hear of Him?
But the thunder of His power, who can understand?
And in Job 37.5 in the Old Testament, it says, quote, God thunders wonderfully with His voice.
So once you begin to see that the Old Testament is actually talking about Zeus and it's extraordinary because how many people know that Christianity is based on the worship of an ancient Greek god named Zeus who as I said has a canal in his name the Suez Canal Okay,
what about the planet Jupiter and the link up with this particular God?
And where does Jesus fit into this story?
Because, as we know, the Christians, you know, believe they created a religion based on Jesus being son of the Father, and so on.
Well, that brings into focus another whole...
another whole discussion about another God named Jesus and I don't think I want to get into that right now because that is a real can of worms and it would take us a couple of hours for me to give you the reasons why I think what I do about Jesus because it's very easy to ask someone what they feel about Jesus and have them give you an answer but my answer would be The kind
of an answer that I would really have to preface my answer by giving you the reasons why I say what I do about Jesus.
So I would love to do another show later on where we can talk about Christianity and Jesus.
If you want to talk about controversy, that'll be controversial.
But I think this is very interesting about Zeus.
I think the implications implies that we have some really interesting things to look at in the world of religion.
Well, do you think that the Bible was referencing the Greek god known as Zeus?
In other words, what's the precursor to that name in, let's say, Sumeria?
I think that the Old Testament and the New Testament, first of all, And once you start talking about the Bible and the Old and New Testament, now you're bringing in a whole new subject matter of the history of religion and the etymology of the words and where the concepts and ideas have actually originated.
I do not believe that Judaism is a BC religion.
I don't believe that at all.
I do not believe for a moment That there was an ancient Israel.
Israel never existed.
There was no such a thing as ancient Israel.
That's a whole study that's already been done by a lot of very intelligent guys around the world who have been writing and looking at the subject of ancient Israel.
Well, does this get into Commons Beaumont?
Commons Beaumont, do you know who this is?
Who investigated and basically said he believed that Constantine moved the whole story of Jesus, etc.
from Britain to what is now the Middle East just for his own convenience and to make a name for his kingdom, so to speak.
Yeah.
Well, as I said, I don't believe for a moment that ancient Israel ever existed.
First of all, in history, historians are now finally coming to the conclusion, and I'm talking about historians, archaeologists, paleontologists, rabbinical authorities in Jerusalem and in Israel today, who are writing books and talking publicly.
You can hear them on the web talking about the fact That ancient Israel never existed.
There was no place called ancient Israel.
And with that, I would add that there was no King Solomon, no King David, no King Saul.
There was no kings and all of the names in the Old Testament, all those officials and kings, etc., the royalty in the Old Testament never existed.
So they never existed, which they didn't.
And there's no basis for believing that there was a King David or King Saul.
As a matter of fact, one of the oldest renditions of the Bible, and I've lost my notes on that, but I remember that there's a very old version of the Bible, many, many hundreds of years ago, where in the Bible, in the Old Testament, every time it would talk about King David, It didn't say David in the Bible.
The word was Druid, not D-A-V-I-D. It's Druid, D-R-U-I-D. So it was King Druid, not King David.
And then when you begin to look at the connection between the Druids and Europe, Northeast, Western, Southern Europe, was dominated by the word.
dominated by Druids.
We call it the European white man and the Druids were a very powerful people even before the Roman Empire and they're still today very powerful in Europe especially in England and France and in Germany and the Druids have a They were a very powerful civilization even before the Roman Empire existed, the white man's domination of Europe.
And in that system we call Druidism, one of the most important symbols of power was a magic wand, like an orchestral conductor today leads the music with a magic wand.
Or Merlin the Magician.
In English mysticism, Merlin the Magician has a magic wand.
Mickey Mouse and Disney with a magic wand.
Magic wands were always made out of the wood of a holly tree.
It's made out of Hollywood.
And today, the magic that's being operated on throughout the world from Hollywood, is a legitimate du jour and real magical system of mind control that is coming out of Los Angeles out of the major studios and especially today Disney studio is replete with all kinds of occult and secret societies and symbols
and emblems and It's just an extraordinary story, a betrayal, once you see what's going on at Disney, with the magical symbols, the magical words, the terms, the infiltration of human minds, especially the young people and the children who are watching Disney programs, especially on Saturday morning television.
You would be shocked if you saw and understood to what extent Hollywood is a druidic, magical establishment which is misleading the entire human race.
And it's an extraordinary story.
We could get into that one day, too.
But that's it, like all the other subjects, we'll take a couple of shows to do.
So, anyway.
When I get back to Zeus, and the mere fact that he was the pointer of the royalty and a protector, and so when kings say they have a divine right, it's not from some wonderful holy god, it's from Zeus.
And from my perspective, I would not be surprised if there was some sort of an extraterrestrial biological entity, or what we would call an ET, Because there's no doubt in my mind that they exist.
And maybe there is some sort of an extraterrestrial presence in our solar system, and especially on our Earth.
An extraterrestrial presence which is being overseen and overshadowed by an ancient god named Zeus.
I think the whole subject is fascinating, especially when you consider the scientists who are now confirmed that they're getting the signals back from Cassiopeia, which, you know, thousands and thousands of years ago, Hesiad told us about.
So, if you want to talk about religion and talk about churches and Islam and Judaism, It's a big story and you better go back and do your homework because nothing is what you think it is.
And I could go on for hours on this, but happily we don't have hours.
Okay, so at this point you did want to wrap this in to some degree to the Secret Space Program.
And I am wondering also, with the link up to the reptilian agenda, there seems to be a relationship there.
And I want to go from Zeus to Poseidon.
And I'm wondering if Poseidon and Zeus are the same god.
And Poseidon often being depicted as like the god of the sea.
But at the same time, and I had a weird vision when I went to Malta the first time.
And I know it's very strange, but I can't account for it.
But I saw, in essence, Poseidon rising out of the water.
The waters off the coast of Malta.
And something was feeding me a vision.
Now, you could say it was a mind control device or whatever, but it was a...
A man with very long hair, sort of ringed locks that came down over his shoulders.
I never had such a vision in my life.
I never expected to have such a vision.
It was like a film strip that just came and went really, really quickly.
At that time, I thought to myself, something's going on here to do with this sea god, Poseidon.
And or Zeus.
And so I wonder if you might address that.
But I was on the island of Malta a few years ago, too.
I traveled there to speak there on the island of Malta.
And it is a very ancient place.
And it has some really extraordinary ancient tombs and graveyards and strange places to see on the island of Malta.
I'm sure that there's a lot of activity going on right now on the earth that is not of this world.
The word has been used, but it's incorrect.
We talk about things which are supernatural, but that's not the correct term.
Supernatural simply means natural, but extremely natural.
It's supernatural.
The correct word is prita, preternatural.
Preternatural means not of this world.
It has nothing to do with the world we live in.
Not of this world.
And so much I find in looking at our scientists, our space program is filled with preternatural phenomena.
We're finding things, we're finding artifacts, Uh, strange looking artifacts on the different planets.
We're finding more and more each day.
Strange things about our solar system that we couldn't have known before.
But now we deal with the technology and the, and the being able to go out into our solar system.
We're now beginning to look and we're seeing a whole new kind of space program developing.
Where now we're no longer talking about going to the moon.
Now we're actually discussing paranormal, preternatural presence of aliens, and this is something of serious value, because even people like Steven Spielberg, who is a lot of things,
but stupid isn't one of them, he is spending a lot of time and a lot of money producing a lot of shows and movies about supernatural or preternatural, With the poltergeist, for instance, the two or three movies about poltergeist or invisible demons.
Of course, with all of the UFO stuff with ET and encounters of the third kind, etc.
So, I know that these subjects are very, very legitimate and very important for us to look at.
Now, there are some things I'd like to tell you about Hollywood, I don't think it's appropriate now, but believe me, there are some really strange things going on in Hollywood today that would really shock you if you heard about it.
So just know that I think, it's my opinion, that we humans, our destiny is being Guided by extraterrestrial life.
I think that we humans are being played for fools and are being driven by extraterrestrial technology and wisdom, and we don't seem to, like George Carlin said, nobody seems to care, nobody seems to notice, but I notice.
And I think that we are in the hands of some extraterrestrials who are Intervening in our destiny, and I'm very concerned about it because when you hear about the idea that there's GMO foods,
genetically modified foods, that's a far bigger subject you need to know about because it has to do, that whole subject of GMO foods has to do with GMO humans.
We are genetically modified as human beings right now, but people don't know that.
There are all kinds of universities and laboratories around the world.
As far back as the 1920s, when Adolf Hitler was doing this kind of research, Into cross-breeding animals and humans, to cross-breed humans with extraterrestrial life forms, to now, today,
cross-breeding humans with computers, putting actual human, pieces of the parts of human, humans into computers, so that the computer will ultimately, one day, once they've perfected, computers will actually be human.
And be able to interrelate to other humans and their computers.
All of that may sound strange and off the wall, but it's absolutely happening right now.
And I think this kind of thinking is being, we're being guided by extraterrestrial life forms in this lunacy of destroying the human race and I would say reinventing the human family.
So it's a very frightening story, but I think very legitimate and very real.
And I think we need to look at this whole thing scientifically.
We better go back and look at this whole story of Zeus again.
Because the science there actually got messages back from Cassiopeia, so somebody's out there.
Okay, well let's, before you leave this subject, I would like you to give at least one example from Hollywood that you say of things going on there that you would like to talk about, that you don't want to talk about tonight.
Can you at least give one example of what you think is going on in Hollywood that would be something that people are not aware of And aside from that, I would say along the lines of what you're talking about with the computers and blending humans,
you know, transhumanism in essence, there's also an effort, there's a war going on, I believe, between a certain faction that wants to make humans Into computers versus another group that perhaps wants to evolve or allow humans to develop perhaps more naturally.
And there's actually a war with artificial intelligence at the root of it.
So is there something specific you were referring to when you said things are going on in Hollywood right now that would shock us?
What would shock us?
Well...
I have been taken on private tours by people who worked in Hollywood who I knew personally and a couple of mornings we would go out like on Saturday mornings and they would take me around to strange places in Los Angeles where movies have been made Or where the police department had
figured that there was a human sacrifice going on, etc.
And I've gone to those places and seen what looked to me to be an altar.
It was very intelligently put together with these bricks into a big altar and there was blood stains on them.
And I was told that these were human sacrifices were being done there.
I don't know if they're done now, but they have been done in the past.
And who knows, they may be doing them now.
The whole story about Laurel Canyon, especially, is pregnant with possibilities.
That's a whole story that's, you know, finally coming out.
Because when I first got in Los Angeles back in 1959, I seem to have just ended up in the Laurel Canyon, Mulholland Drive area with so many friends.
I had girlfriends up there.
I had girlfriends here in the valley that had girlfriends up in Laurel Canyon.
And there's a lot of incredible occult stuff going on in Laurel Canyon.
Well, this was also the Charlie Manson place that things were going on there.
I know The Doors spent time in Laurel Canyon.
Peter Lavenda, of course, a very good researcher, has written some books that wrap around a lot of those stories and the connections there.
Yeah, I'm wondering if perhaps we have never gotten to the real root of what's really gone on there.
Well, I had a dear friend who was a limo driver.
And he was...
And on occasion, I'd go out on his job with him and drive with him.
And he was telling me about a very famous movie star.
I've said this before, but I'm not going to use the name this time.
It's just a very, very famous movie star from years ago.
That he would drive the limo for.
And so he was supposed to pick up this movie star one night at the LAX airport and bring him back to Hollywood.
And he said that this movie star he picked up had about four or five other friends with him.
And my friend was driving a limo, and he said, so as we were driving, he told me, he said, as we were driving back to the valley on the 405 freeway, this movie star asked my driver friend, who do you think is the wealthiest man in the whole world?
Well, the single most wealthiest man on the earth.
He said, I don't know.
I've just given him my guesses like Rothschild or Rockefeller.
And he said, every time I came up with a name, everybody would laugh.
I thought it was funny.
And this movie star said to him, no, I'm serious.
I mean, really, who do you think is the wealthiest?
And he said, that's what I thought.
Well, you're wrong.
And he said, and then he was told...
We're going to see that man tonight.
That's where you're taking us.
We're going to see the wealthiest man in the world tonight.
He lives in the Hollywood Hills off of Mulholland and Laurel Canyon.
And he lives in a mountain.
And my driver friends said, he lives on a mountain?
No, he lives in the mountains.
And he said, we drove up in Laurel Canyon, and we drove along Mulholland Drive, and then we came to a little side road, a little dirt road, and he said, take off here.
And he said, we started to drive into the bush, into the mountain, the hill.
And he said, then we came to this one little area, And this movie star took out an automatic garage door open and clicked it and the side of the mountain raised up.
And they drove inside the mountain and the mountain closed back down.
And there was a whole home inside this mountain.
And he said they parked their car, it was high security.
They went in and he said it was this incredibly plush front room, enormous front room, that the glass was all greenish-brown glass on the outside, and that it was all the way along the front room was solid glass, and it had bushes in front of it.
So that if you happen by chance to be driving back there, which is no reason for you to, because it was off the road, but if you happen to be driving on that dirt road, you would never know there was a home inside that mountain.
And they could see you, but you would never see them.
And he says, so he was told to sit at the bar and drink until the movie star and his friends went in to see the old man.
And they came out and they left.
But that's very interesting because later on in life, you know, 30 and 40 years later, I hear from FBI people that I know and from other researchers and writers on the subject of all the occult stuff going on in Laurel Canyon and the music industry and the hippie generation and all that kind of stuff and the drugs.
That whole subject of Laurel Canyon is a big one now.
But now I think back and think of what my friend was telling me.
One of the wealthiest men on the face of the earth lived in a mountain off of Mulholland Drive, very near Laurel Canyon, and that there were government installations, government laboratories there.
There was a lot of drug experimentation going on for the CIA and drug Being brought into this country to drug the young people.
So I just think, and today, of course, there are so many movie stars and big shots live up in that same area.
So I'm of the opinion that Hollywood is really a dark, dark place.
And I mean, I've always been fascinated with Hollywood, but I don't want to go up there anymore.
I don't want to be around it because I really understand better now What that place is really all about.
It's a very, very dark place.
Hollywood and Los Angeles, unfortunately, you know, the very name Los Angeles is translated to mean the city of Los Angeles or the angels.
Los Angeles is the angels.
What angels?
What are you talking about angels?
Well, angels are not from here.
Even a child will tell you, angels are out there with God.
Well, whatever is out there is extraterrestrials, not from here.
So Los Angeles is a city of the angels.
Well, you better go back and figure out what angels are you talking about.
So anyway, all of this impacts the space program.
Because I talked with the man, he was like 98 years old, About 20, 15 years ago now, I had dinner with an old man I was introduced to who was the very first president of NASA, but it wasn't called NASA. It was called the United States Space Program or something like that, but it was not called NASA. And so, hey guys, I'm on the phone.
It was not called NASA. But he told me a lot of interesting things that were going on with the space program back in the early 50s, the late 40s and early 50s, and what they were really looking for and why they set up an agency called NASA. And so anyway, I just think the space program is not what you think it is.
They're looking for something.
Okay, well, what were they really...
I mean, let's drill down here.
So he told you they were...
What were they looking for back in those days with NASA, do you think?
And, you know, Richard Hoagland will say, and there's other evidence of this, and I myself have worked for NASA, JPL Jet Propulsion Lab as a contractor, and I've been on that lab a number of times.
It has the links to Jack Parsons, of course, and it has dark magicians, apparently, that still convene up in those mountains, we are told.
It's the rumors on the lab and so on and so forth.
So...
What were you told?
It's supposed to be a defensive organization to defend the Earth, as a matter of fact.
That's actually what NASA was...
That's what their actual mission is supposed to be.
But what were you told by this man?
Well, basically, I mean, he didn't give me a whole lot.
He's like 98 years old.
It was a wonder that we could get him to come out with us to have lunch.
But...
He was saying that the way he said it to me is that the whole space program is not what you think it is.
We're not going out there to see all the beautiful stars and search the heavens for life.
We already know what's out there.
We're going out to find them.
And there's a connection between the space program today and the Nazi Party.
So many of the officials at NASA are ex-Nazis.
That were working directly with Hitler and the scientific community in Nazi Germany.
So, that's a whole story too, how the Nazi, after the Second World War was over, the real brains that Hitler had working for him, not the soldiers on the ground,
but the scientists, the physicists, the astrophysicists, plasma physicists, all of these brilliant German minds, That were working on extraordinary interplanetary travel and time travel, etc.
They were brought, most of them, the best minds were brought here to America.
And how did they get them out of Europe?
Because so many European countries were looking for these Nazis to arrest them, throw them into prison, maybe kill them.
Especially Russia.
Russia was all over Europe looking for Nazis.
But hundreds, if not thousands, of the best minds out of Nazi Germany got out, had passports, plenty of money, and they got their passports.
Incidentally, all of the Nazis got their passports to get out of Europe.
Right under the eyes of the Allied Powers and under the eyes of Russians.
They were ushered out of Europe by the Vatican.
The Catholic Church was giving away new identification, new IDs.
And in airline tickets and cash and sending the Nazi, high degree Nazis and especially the scientists, they were sending them all over the world to other Nazi comfortable places for Nazis like Mexico, Central and South America, especially Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, the Vatican.
What the Jesuit Order was providing transportation, money, and protected travel to get these top Nazis out and into Central and South America and especially into Washington, D.C. If you want to look at that, go back and read as much as you can on something called Operation Paperclip.
Operation Paperclip is the entire story of how the Vatican provided the Nazis with their freedom to get out of Germany and get out of Europe before they would be killed, because the Vatican, along with the US and European powers, did not want those really intelligent scientists to die.
They didn't want them put into prisons and die or be killed.
They want to use them.
They're brilliant men, so the idea was bring them here and we'll use them and they'll work for us.
Okay well let me bring this up to date because there's been a lot of talk about Antarctica recently and some changes going on and we were told Project Camelot years ago about an underground base called New Berlin and we there was actually a guy who went on the run who published a book it's called New Berlin it's on our website if you do the search But at the time,
we were given this because eventually I did make contact with this individual, by the way.
He had some mental problems because of his escape and the way they mind controlled him down there.
But he appeared to be legitimate.
He wrote a book, which is very, very difficult to decipher.
It has been translated.
But the interesting thing about it was he was on the run.
He was extremely paranoid.
And the people who gave it to me were part of a European organization.
I'm not going to say who.
And they were afraid for their lives so they wouldn't publish it.
This is years ago in Project Camelot.
So we went ahead and published it.
Nothing happened to us as a result.
I'm sure most people just ignored it.
We tried to make people aware of it at the time.
But it's a thick book.
It's very difficult to go through.
Seems nonsensical.
The writing doesn't seem to make logical sense.
And yet there are bits and pieces that are fascinating.
And the man himself appears to be a real individual and did contact me a few years ago.
So I know he's alive.
I know he's in hiding.
So I'm not going to say much more about him.
But it's very interesting.
So what do you know or have you heard anything about Antarctica?
Certainly we know, Jim, that Kerry went down during the election.
Some people say that the Pope went there recently.
I've got another witness saying that there was something found under the Kaaba in Mecca.
Some possibly alien device or something that was escorted by a Russian pope of some kind of Russian from the Russian Orthodox Church for some reason had to accompany the boat and then it was taken to Antarctica.
Buzz Aldrin supposedly had a heart attack and then said something like the face of evil, that he saw something like the face of evil down there.
So what have you heard?
Well, probably just about the same thing you have.
I've talked with my dear friend Joseph Farrell, and he's a fascinating, brilliant man.
He actually just blows me away listening to him because of his brilliance on these subjects.
So hard to decipher, but somehow or another he is able to find things that put the pieces together.
Joseph Farrell is one man who would be better at talking about this subject than I. But, you know, the Kaaba, In the Kaaba in Saudi Arabia, the whole concept of this black square reminds me of the rough and smooth ashlar.
And Freemasonry, there's something referred to as a rough and smooth ashlar.
And the ashlar is a black square.
I thought that was very interesting.
Doesn't this go to Saturn, have something to do with Saturn?
Yeah, it has to do with the planet Saturn.
And that's a whole subject in itself too.
Because the Jewish religion today, at one time it was Zeus.
And some of it still is Zeus in the Old Testament.
But today's Judaism has moved on.
From Zeus, now the Jewish religion is based on primarily the planet Saffron.
And Saffron now takes first place instead of Zeus.
And that's a whole story that we could spend a couple, three hours on, just proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Jewish God today in Judaism is the planet Saffron.
And one of the most important symbols associated with the Saffron, the God of Saffron, Which incidentally, Saturn was always known as the Lord of the Rings.
And of course, Saturn is Lord of the Rings.
And the Jews in Hollywood are still making movies about their God, Lord of the Rings.
You have to understand what's going on in Hollywood.
They're telling you something.
And, you know, Star Wars and Indiana Jones movies have a lot of very powerful stuff they're telling you.
In those movies.
So anyway, I think it's a wonderful place to start looking.
When you go to Hollywood, look at the movies that are coming out.
Something I noticed many years ago.
When we in America have a pro-communist or Marxist-Leninist government or president, you will see a lot of anti-Nazi films come out.
A lot of anti-Nazi movies.
Later on, if we get a government that's dominated by Nazis, and the very president is dominated by the Nazi movement, then you will begin to see a lot of movies exposing communism in the movies.
And so, I see both Nazism and Communism being played back-and-forth power plays in Hollywood.
And we've got books like, there's quite a few books actually, but one of them comes to my mind.
It's called An Empire of Our Own.
An Empire of Our Own.
It's by a Jewish writer who is explaining how the Jews built Hollywood.
And where the word came from and what it means and the connections between Hollywood and the Communist Party, the Nazi Party and the world fascism.
Boy, that's a hell of a subject if you ever want to open up something controversial.
I've been looking at that for years.
But anyway, as much as I enjoy talking with you, we could talk for hours.
I'm going to have to go because all right.
I'm going to shortly share.
I have something else I have to do.
I see that.
Obviously, they're setting up for you in the background there.
I was hoping that we could give the audience a chance to ask you a few questions.
But I'm going to scan through here very quickly, see if I can find anything directed to you.
If someone has a question, perhaps you want to put it in all cups really quickly, or perhaps we'll just revisit this another day.
I think you've given a lot of food for thought for the viewers here.
I was hoping we could go a little more in depth into the whole influence of the ETs in the Secret Space Program and Things that you might be able to add there.
But I know you're on a limited time.
Jordan, we can certainly come back to this in the future.
Yes, I was going to say, let's do it again and pick up where we leave off today.
We can do it immediately.
Whenever you're ready, let me know.
We can do another show.
All right.
Because we can always talk for hours on all kinds of these kindred subjects.
Before I go, though, I'd like to say that my website is jordanmaxwellshow.com.
That's the only website I have out there for my work is jordanmaxwellshow.com.
When you go on that website, jordanmaxwellshow.com, You will see a banner advertising another website I have in that Jordan Maxwell Show website.
It's called the Research website, Research Society website.
All that is is another website in which I am uploading all of my research from over the years on Hollywood, on government, On the occult world,
on religion, ancient documents, audio, video, tons of articles, research articles, people and links that you need to know about.
There are certain people in this world you need to know about and what they're doing.
And so I'm putting all of that on my research website.
So in order to get there, you have to join the research society.
So my website, again, is Jordan Maxwell Show.
And when you get there, join my research society.
And that's where I'm putting all the good and juicy stuff that I don't want to put out in the public.
And I want to say it's a...
And I'd be delighted to do another show with you anytime.
Okay, great.
It has a one-time lifetime membership fee that's extremely low and contributes to keeping Jordan going.
So I want to encourage people to...
To do that, I'm a member and I've already been accessing some of the stuff you've got there, Jordan, and it's great fun and fascinating stuff.
So, you know, Jordan is an endless fount of knowledge, as everyone knows, and it's great to talk with you, Jordan.
I'd love to go on.
I do want to say that as far as the rings of Saturn goes...
I did interview, many years ago, Norm Bergram.
Actually, several years.
I think it was even maybe around 2010.
And he has disappeared off the face of the earth, as I thought he might.
He was about to go back to work for Black Projects at the age of, if I remember correctly, at the time when I interviewed him, he was something like 93.
It was An amazing, he's an extraordinary man, smart as a whip.
He wrote a book called The Ringmakers of Saturn, which has made the rounds on the internet and can actually be obtained for free, sadly to say, but nonetheless, it's a wonderful book.
and he had a theory that the rings were being manufactured by craft that were sitting in the rings and that those craft were on their way to earth and that that was what he told me around 2010 you can imagine they've gotten here by now that opens as you might say a can of worms as to what Saturn why Saturn would be sending a bunch of ships in our direction
and how this old very elderly man who spent his life working underground in an underground base in Moffitt Field where I was born in a hospital a military hospital right there and apparently was my lab there and myself and And, uh, so he had things to say about that as well.
Fascinating older man.
I wish you guys could have connected.
Had you ever met him or knew about him?
Uh, I know.
Uh, did you send me an email about him?
I did at one time.
Yes.
At one time I did.
Uh, probably right after.
Yes.
Maybe you can send it to me again, because I want to go back over it.
Yeah, it's a fascinating interview for those who are looking for it.
You just put in the word, I think if you just put his first name, N-O-R-M, is in Mary.
Norm Berggren is the last name.
It's on my website.
You just go into YouTube and just put Norm in the search field there.
You have to be on my website, my YouTube channel, to actually do that, or on my website.
That's right.
Send me the link though.
I will do that.
And maybe next time we can discuss this in more depth because I think you might be fascinated with what he had to say.
I was hoping we could also get into the Freemasons a bit.
I just talked to somebody who is talking about Joseph Smith.
And the Freemasons and the battle between Joseph Smith and the Freemasons.
And I'm sure you have something to say about that.
But I don't want to detain you.
I know you're going to do another interview shortly.
Very interesting man, Joseph Smith.
Very big story there.
The Mormon Church has not even touched...
The really interesting stuff about Joseph Smith.
And so that's a whole show in itself.
All right.
We'll get to that one day soon, too.
That would be excellent.
Excellent.
All right.
Thank you so much, Jordan.
Again, want to thank you for coming on the show.
And it's just great to have you.
And thanks, everyone, for watching.
We'll have Jordan back real soon.
Okay, thank you very much for having me on.
We'll talk later.
Okay.
Bye-bye.
All right, bye-bye, and take care.
So, everyone, we're going to basically let him go here.
I'm going to hang up the phone, and hopefully I'm pushing the right button here.
So...
Thanks, everyone, for watching.
And I want to say that it's always a lot of fun to listen to Jordan and to try to get a question in edgewise, obviously.
He has his own agenda as to what he wants to put out there, and so I try to allow him to do as much of that as possible.
His mind works in many, many different directions at once, so it's always fascinating to talk to him Both on and off the record, let me say.
At any rate, thanks for watching.
I encourage everyone to see my earlier broadcast today that was broadcast at 2 p.m.
with Michael Shrimpton, again, and Ole Domogard.
Ole Domogard is talking about the situation on the ground at various places to do with the London attacks and the previous predictions that he had made and how he is now able to spot Thank you.
It's spread into infiltrating, obviously, intelligence agencies around the world, including the Mossad, and how they basically, in his view, orchestrated this latest attack using, obviously, a Patsy, who is an Arab Muslim, as usual.
So, at any rate, I am...
Hoping to interview Mark Richards very shortly.
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